#the-water-cooler | Home Assistant | Page 796

finite atlas Jun 23, 2022, 12:40 AM

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make a proper 802.11r network with ethernet cables, works much more reliable

tawdry brook Jun 23, 2022, 1:02 AM

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where not talking about wifi where talking about zigbee network

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all my devices on my local network are wired except my phone all te rest is wired to the system

finite atlas Jun 23, 2022, 1:20 AM

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oh, sorry for misunterstanding then

young sigil Jun 23, 2022, 1:25 AM

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It's literally called #zigbee-archived

tawdry brook Jun 23, 2022, 7:44 AM

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@young sigil yes but i had troubel with the device itself not with the zigbee 🙂 but good to know for the future

glacial knot Jun 23, 2022, 7:49 AM

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Then it's probably #hardware-archived or also #zigbee-archived for zigbee hardware 🙂

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but as you can see, nobody is angry at you. there's just better fitting places 🙂

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 7:52 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/how-dare-you-greta-thunberg-gif-15130785

Tenor

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I bought some fyrtur blinds at 60% off yesterday

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Gonna be nice in my office

fallow karma Jun 23, 2022, 10:07 AM

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Hello

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My holidays just finished, I'm gonna die at the work

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BUT

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I was surprised with job offer, i didn't even look for a new one

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Car factory is looking for EV specialist at the prototype department. Sounds interesting , but i dunno yet if money are better

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 10:25 AM

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Noice

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https://tenor.com/view/were-looking-at-a-pro-lieutenant-olivia-benson-sergeant-odafin-tutuola-law-and-order-special-victims-unit-professional-gif-14148302

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forest edge Jun 23, 2022, 11:54 AM

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https://imgur.com/fjS6270

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9 Volt Battery

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late gate Jun 23, 2022, 3:03 PM

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Imagine the awkward Darth Vader "nooooooooooo" from PQ EP3

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 3:16 PM

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Lol

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100% used

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I've never seen that irl

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And i work on pretty... Intensive use systems

late gate Jun 23, 2022, 3:18 PM

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The other one is at 99%

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this is pro versions too

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 3:18 PM

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Either wrongly used or horrible quality

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You should probably have opted for WI drives

late gate Jun 23, 2022, 3:20 PM

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at least I managed to stop it before it crashed the write and read cyclus as on synology you can get a full raid crash if the r/w cache fails

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 3:20 PM

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Synology

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pepe_yikes

late gate Jun 23, 2022, 3:21 PM

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they work great for what I use it for. plex, plex, plex

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 3:21 PM

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ZFS or bust

late gate Jun 23, 2022, 3:21 PM

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I dont disagree I would like to see zfs. they run btrfs

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or ext4 option

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 3:24 PM

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Btrfs is fine, but I hate the syntax'

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Ext4 is also fine for static data

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ZFS is just allround great for anything

late gate Jun 23, 2022, 3:26 PM

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I bought an expansion unit for my synology im thinking to run my cameras on ext4

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dont think btrfs is the best for cameras

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synology uses a heavy modified version of btrfs so it works great, but a bit slowdown vs ext4

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Going to watch Jimmy Carr today btw - need some political uncorrectness

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 4:29 PM

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ZFS would be great for cameras

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Memory written, disk flushed

forest edge Jun 23, 2022, 7:13 PM

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always funny when someone makes a youtube video of something they created completely diy then no more than a week later make another video about how the parts are no longer available and something along the lines of trying to find a "good enough" replacement

late gate Jun 23, 2022, 7:51 PM

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@clear ferry Sure ZFS is good for much, but I dont want to build a NAS. Now I have a NAS with a total of 10 bays that run cameras, plex, sonarr, radarr, nzb, torrent, http proxies, z2m, influx, mysql, logserver and a bunch other stuff at a fraction of the electricity cost of a PC driven NAS like unraid or something. I got unraid licenses, but not using them. My next step is to install the 5 bay expansion (wrongly priced on komplett so I bought it), and put in some more RAM. It barely using 2-3GB ram with everything im running now, and the camera system barely touch the CPU, but going to run it with 12GB ram that will be plenty. Also super easy with the integrated off site backup solution

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 7:51 PM

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Synology is ridiculously priced compared to what you get

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I'll keep my 220w system thank you, albeit it is 14 years old, but it runs everything I throw at it, and more, and can be expanded easily

late gate Jun 23, 2022, 7:53 PM

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synology is absolutely overpriced yes

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but the software is very good

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hardware wise its meh

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ok enough they offer amd with 32gb ram now, but no hardware transcoding so its a no for me

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I paid 2500 for the ds1520 (5 bay) and 2000 for the dx512 (5 bay expansion module) on wrong komplett price so I was lucky

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 8:14 PM

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I paid 1500NOK for the R510 including shipping from the us, I already had the CPUs and the memory, I added an old msa20 to it last month, currently it has 12 3.5" bays and 26 2.5" bays

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Currently populated with 4x10 + 4x6 + 4x2 + 2x300(sas) + 8x600(sas) + 8x1.92TB(SSD)

late gate Jun 23, 2022, 8:22 PM

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Im at the level im done tinkering with hardware. I have a tower with an i7 and 32gb ram sitting there that would be perfect for a nas, but when i have the synology i see no point moving.

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 8:23 PM

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Do I tinker if it just keeps on running? Except the fortnight updates I run?

late gate Jun 23, 2022, 8:27 PM

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I dunno, just saying im happy with my setup except it eating up cache drives. Maybe its reklamasjon, should the nvme not last longer than a year?

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 8:28 PM

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Well, yes

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Under normal circumstances

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It isn't just reklamasjon, it's garanti

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You can try at least, they'll probably say you passed the daily allowed data writes

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This is why we have RI, WI, MU drives

late gate Jun 23, 2022, 8:30 PM

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I guess a normal nvme is not meant for cache

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Its barely a year old

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 8:31 PM

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Cache drives is so 2007

late gate Jun 23, 2022, 8:32 PM

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A lot say its no need unless its used as a file nas with many users not my usecase

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So i might drop the cache

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 8:33 PM

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Your performance will probably plummet since it isn't using a CoW filesystem

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Just doing some snapraid similar stuff in proprietary software

late gate Jun 23, 2022, 8:35 PM

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Lets see. I dont think plex is even hitting the cache. I have all metadata on an ssd (2x 2gb ssd)

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Rest is 10tb 7200 drives

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 8:35 PM

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Plex isn't that io intensive tbh

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Unless it is transcoding

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Metadata offload to SSD is quite a waste

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Since it is mostly static data

late gate Jun 23, 2022, 8:36 PM

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Luckily hardware transcode

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I used the ssd originally with the home assistant mysql issue

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Now that its fixed i might retire the ssd

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 8:38 PM

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SSDs are quite affordable these days, for a docker ecosystem overall it makes sense, low data footprint, fast deployment

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Media on rust is fine

late gate Jun 23, 2022, 8:40 PM

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Well I could migrate docker to them

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Just to annoy you more im very happy with my unifi doorbell:p

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 8:42 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/every-inch-of-that-sentence-made-me-sick-dan-levy-david-david-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20854017

Tenor

late gate Jun 23, 2022, 8:45 PM

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Ha integrasjon med tts, hva er ikke bedre?

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Kan be jehovas ryke og dra med tts

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 9:22 PM

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https://tenor.com/biavb.gif

Tenor

dusky plank Jun 23, 2022, 9:28 PM

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English only please

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 9:29 PM

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Suddenly a wild ~~hurensohn~~ austrian appears

dusky plank Jun 23, 2022, 9:30 PM

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Why is that hurensohn censored?

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Hurensohn should be international

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clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 9:31 PM

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https://tenor.com/KGb8.gif

Tenor

dusky plank Jun 23, 2022, 9:32 PM

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Was insta hiking yesterday

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late gate Jun 23, 2022, 9:33 PM

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@dusky plank yeah it just came out in norwegian by some reason

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 9:35 PM

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What is this, Manuel footwork?

dusky plank Jun 23, 2022, 9:36 PM

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Someone tried to kill me, no fun

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 9:37 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/300-action-drama-gerard-butler-madness-gif-3453226

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This. Is. Sparta!

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hearty depot Jun 23, 2022, 9:51 PM

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just brought a Argon EON
Impulse purchase, But I think that will replace my single node ceph setup.
Need to safe Power -_-

clear ferry Jun 23, 2022, 10:08 PM

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tawdry brook Jun 23, 2022, 10:20 PM

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I still can't believe I just spend six hours today to manually update a ZigBee device but in the end it worked and smarter because of it 🤣

wild grove Jun 23, 2022, 11:57 PM

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@hexed spade so i've not used the ble_gateway feature of esphome yet but i read it can forward advertisements elsewhere for processing, such as passive ble monitor. i came across it by accident and have been reading up on it

bitter pecan Jun 24, 2022, 12:18 AM

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anyone using an amazon flex rn and is it a total piece of shit when it comes to wifi or am i just built different?

raven gull Jun 24, 2022, 12:53 AM

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shadow prawn Jun 24, 2022, 5:39 AM

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raven gull

Every single time

young sigil Jun 24, 2022, 6:25 AM

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#hardware-archived

uncut mulch Jun 24, 2022, 6:27 AM

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ah, thanks

hexed spade Jun 24, 2022, 7:10 AM

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wild grove <@679819945655533632> so i've not used the ble_gateway feature of esphome yet b...

ok thanks, never used esp32 at all yet, other than in the Matter workshop 😉 got a link for that readup? Might be the right time to start with that now Bluetooth support will stop functioning in 2022.7

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 7:49 AM

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Esphome documentation or tasmota documentation is a good start

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It is literally a 15 minute job from start to finish

late gate Jun 24, 2022, 7:52 AM

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why do I throw up a bit when I hear node red?

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 7:53 AM

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I do too

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It's quite normal

late gate Jun 24, 2022, 7:55 AM

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good, good. I thought it was something wrong with me

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 7:55 AM

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There is

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A lot

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But not that

late gate Jun 24, 2022, 7:58 AM

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darn

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Jimmy Carr was funny yesterday though - I take that as a win

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 8:03 AM

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Ha-haaaaaaaaaaa

late gate Jun 24, 2022, 8:27 AM

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covid is spreading at work now. so fun a week before vacation

umbral cliff Jun 24, 2022, 8:29 AM

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No work from home available?

late gate Jun 24, 2022, 8:29 AM

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yes, but the bosses are lonely so cant take home office every day

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if it was up to me I would not be a work during a covid surge

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10% is sick now

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 8:31 AM

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Lål

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Wfh lyfe

late gate Jun 24, 2022, 8:33 AM

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at least its some home office here. When I was in the army for 10 years it was no home office :p

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 8:33 AM

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I dodged that nonsense

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Now I just fix stuff for them

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I just realized Tesla front looks like a Porsche 911 with fetal alcohol syndrome

late gate Jun 24, 2022, 8:35 AM

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lol

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 8:35 AM

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Tesla's are really ugly cars tbh

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With no character between the models

late gate Jun 24, 2022, 8:35 AM

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I would not say no if someone gave one to me

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but not on my top buy list

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 8:35 AM

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I would resell it

late gate Jun 24, 2022, 8:36 AM

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before I bought new car yearly

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now I kept calm

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 8:38 AM

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I switch every 4-5 years the last 15 years, now that I finally bought some newer cars I'll probably keep them longer

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My Volvo was 3 years old when I bought it, 540.000 discount pepe_yikes

late gate Jun 24, 2022, 8:39 AM

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I got boring cars now. One volvo and one bmw from 2015-ish. still working without any issues

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worst car I had is bmw x5

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 8:39 AM

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00s or 10s ?

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The first ones were alright

late gate Jun 24, 2022, 8:40 AM

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oh a long time ago 2006 I think

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 8:40 AM

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I thought those were nice, with the V10 engine

late gate Jun 24, 2022, 8:40 AM

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it was so horrible it leaked water when you used a washing machine

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and doors froze during winter

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 8:41 AM

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Lol

late gate Jun 24, 2022, 8:41 AM

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it was a nightmare

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felt so cool climbing out the window at the mall

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best compromise car was a xc60 with 250hp

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 8:42 AM

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Only BMW's i could ever want is the 7 from the 80s or the 6 from the 70s

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I like the xc90 t8, great performance and quality, and a heck of a badonkadonk

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late gate Jun 24, 2022, 8:43 AM

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I miss my wrx sti - but that become the "wife car"

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 8:44 AM

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Subaru were great, I had two Leone

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Both without 4wd

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waitwhat2

late gate Jun 24, 2022, 8:45 AM

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I just dont want to use more money on cars now as they are all paid down and looks pretty new. Been very careful with them so interiour and exteriour looks so nice

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only thing I really would like is apple-thingy in them

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 8:45 AM

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I've seen three WRX sti irl, two of them by the side of the road with engine smoking

late gate Jun 24, 2022, 8:46 AM

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on the volvo its possible, but need to import the entertainment screen as its not sold in norway

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Something I always wondered: Why do americans put the tv over the fireplace? Neck issues anyone, and degraded life span of heat anyone?? anyyyone?

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 8:54 AM

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@forest edge probably knows why, he knows everything with fact based sources always

umbral cliff Jun 24, 2022, 9:31 AM

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clear ferry I thought those were nice, with the V10 engine

The X5 from the early 00s were so shit. Had so many issues

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 9:32 AM

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Really? I've driven two, they were both great

umbral cliff Jun 24, 2022, 9:32 AM

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They’re incredibly unreliable

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Which is surprising given the sedans from that era weren’t terrible

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I’m sticking with my 2000 bmw 3 series for as long as I can. It’s been very good to me

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Also not even 100,000kms yet

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 9:34 AM

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Both of the ones I drove were E70s

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With the 4.8

umbral cliff Jun 24, 2022, 9:34 AM

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late gate Something I always wondered: Why do americans put the tv over the fireplace? Nec...

We’ve got a tv above a fireplace, 2 things with it, it’s barely higher than what you would do normally (and just move the couch back far enough so you don’t crane your neck) and the heat doesn’t really affect it that much

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 9:34 AM

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I thought it was V10, but it was v8

umbral cliff Jun 24, 2022, 9:35 AM

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clear ferry Both of the ones I drove were E70s

Think that’s the generation after. E53 were the shit X5s

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The first Gen ones

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 9:43 AM

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The one from before you were born yes

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goaCatKISS

umbral cliff Jun 24, 2022, 9:55 AM

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clear ferry The one from before you were born yes

Rude, I was most definitely alive when it was released

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 10:02 AM

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Can't be!

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https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-alexis-rose-rude-thats-very-rude-gif-16124053

Tenor

finite atlas Jun 24, 2022, 10:16 AM

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clear ferry Tesla's are really ugly cars tbh

since you like them so much

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https://img.pr0gramm.com/2022/03/04/b0d700a63ea7ac71.jpg

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 10:26 AM

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Fits the overall quality feel of the Tesla

forest edge Jun 24, 2022, 10:35 AM

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clear ferry <@104768700069990400> probably knows why, he knows everything with fact based so...

don't educate shame me

forest edge Jun 24, 2022, 10:51 AM

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clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 11:02 AM

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forest edge don't educate shame me

I don't have to ratJAM ratJAM goaCatKISS

wild grove Jun 24, 2022, 12:58 PM

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@hexed spade https://community.home-assistant.io/t/esphome-ble-gateway-and-other-ble-components/367935

late gate Jun 24, 2022, 1:34 PM

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weekend! finally

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 1:35 PM

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What is weekend?

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I only work half weeks anyway

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yuckdoge

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Going on vacation in 10 days

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Then I'm working 8h per week from August till December

late gate Jun 24, 2022, 1:39 PM

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Thats slacking off

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 1:39 PM

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Still full pay

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ratJAM

late gate Jun 24, 2022, 1:40 PM

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bad value for money :p

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 1:42 PM

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Not for me yuckdoge

umbral cliff Jun 24, 2022, 1:42 PM

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clear ferry Then I'm working 8h per week from August till December

Be careful @forest edge will complain

hexed spade Jun 24, 2022, 1:43 PM

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wild grove <@679819945655533632> <https://community.home-assistant.io/t/esphome-ble-gateway...

nice... but... i fear the same applies there: https://custom-components.github.io/ble_monitor/Installation#step-0-grant-permissions-for-python-to-have-rootless-access-to-the-hci-interface it needs the BlueZ package, which if I understand correctly, is the exact reason core BT doesnt work in 2022.7 because of python versioning

Passive BLE Monitor integration

Installation

Passively monitors BLE messages from Xiaomi Mijia BLE MiBeacon, Qingping, ATC, Xiaomi Scale, Kegtron and Thermoplus sensors.

late gate Jun 24, 2022, 1:52 PM

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I bet @clear ferry is a in closet homeseer user and think it looks fabulous

orchid rose Jun 24, 2022, 4:05 PM

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Got a new keyboard and the very custom integration integrated it as 132 lights, nice.

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it's going to expose those all to google assistant as well, isn't it... oh god

static schooner Jun 24, 2022, 4:16 PM

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orchid rose Jun 24, 2022, 4:18 PM

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More that I'll be annoyed when google constantly says "turning off lights - 132 lights are unavailable"

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oh and it destroyed the "Turned On" list in lovelace too kek

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 5:07 PM

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pepe_yikes

hushed basalt Jun 24, 2022, 6:21 PM

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fallow karma Jun 24, 2022, 8:03 PM

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Help me , my HA speaks some dutch !!

Screenshot_2022-06-24-22-02-50-437_io.homeassistant.companion.android.jpg

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I know it's not right channel, but its almost a meme

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 8:11 PM

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Godverdomme

fallow karma Jun 24, 2022, 8:13 PM

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clear ferry Godverdomme

You're right

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 8:14 PM

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I usually am

fallow karma Jun 24, 2022, 8:16 PM

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I suppose it might be related to the fact, that i gave admin rights to my 6.5 year old son

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 8:17 PM

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That little skurwysyn

fallow karma Jun 24, 2022, 8:25 PM

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Will Smith could slap you for that

static schooner Jun 24, 2022, 8:25 PM

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it certainly sounds dirty

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 8:25 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-will-smith-meme-will-smith-whack-will-smith-punch-punch-gif-25236389

Tenor

static schooner Jun 24, 2022, 8:26 PM

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in a "what did you call me? oh, I have no idea if I should be offended or not" kind of way

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 8:26 PM

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Like the polish guy I worked with who told me I should ask the lunch lady for kurwa

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Thankfully I know insulting phrases in at least 12 languages

static schooner Jun 24, 2022, 8:27 PM

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then backs away like he doesn't know you

clear ferry Jun 24, 2022, 8:27 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-david-rose-unbelievable-dan-levy-cbc-television-gif-20572551

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https://tenor.com/view/rocky-horror-rhps-anticipation-gif-4928121

Tenor

restive vapor Jun 24, 2022, 9:04 PM

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Finally

umbral cliff Jun 25, 2022, 1:25 AM

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restive vapor

You really want to expose your email address to a bunch of strangers?

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Who could do bad things with it

forest edge Jun 25, 2022, 1:42 AM

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like what? send him spam?

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email address is something not to worry about sharing

umbral cliff Jun 25, 2022, 2:03 AM

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forest edge like what? send him spam?

He’s 13 so yes. Also his name too

forest edge Jun 25, 2022, 2:26 AM

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name and email is not going to get you into anymore trouble then any person who ever had a busisness card, filled out an online form for a giveway, requested a blockbuster card

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while anonymity is good practice, there are some things that are just fine lol

static schooner Jun 25, 2022, 2:28 AM

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I wonder if I still have my blockbuster card...

umbral cliff Jun 25, 2022, 2:53 AM

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forest edge name and email is not going to get you into anymore trouble then any person who ...

There’s a difference between doing that as an adult, and a child who doesn’t realise what info they’re putting online

forest edge Jun 25, 2022, 3:16 AM

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umbral cliff There’s a difference between doing that as an adult, and a child who doesn’t rea...

must be why most childrens games ask for name and email as well

umbral cliff Jun 25, 2022, 3:16 AM

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forest edge must be why most childrens games ask for name and email as well

A company who has to protect the data of a child vs just posting an email online

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Very comparable

static schooner Jun 25, 2022, 3:18 AM

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My name rhymes with Lob. And I'm much older than 13. HACKME

hushed basalt Jun 25, 2022, 3:29 AM

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clear ferry Jun 25, 2022, 7:11 AM

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static schooner My name rhymes with Lob. And I'm much older than 13. HACKME

Job G, 91, resident of Y'allabama

restive vapor Jun 25, 2022, 8:03 AM

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umbral cliff He’s 13 so yes. Also his name too

send me spam pls
i will be sure you get on a email block list

umbral cliff Jun 25, 2022, 8:44 AM

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restive vapor send me spam pls i will be sure you get on a email block list

See the spam wouldn’t be coming from my email. Nor from me at all

dusky plank Jun 26, 2022, 8:42 AM

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https://uk.pcmag.com/games/133930/you-can-run-doom-on-a-chip-from-a-15-ikea-smart-lamp

PCMag UK

You Can Run Doom on a Chip From a $15 Ikea Smart Lamp

Software engineer Nicola Wrachien demoed his creation in a video that shows the chip running a memory-optimized version of Doom over his custom hardware.

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Yeah i know #zigbee-archived yada yada

tidal bronze Jun 26, 2022, 5:18 PM

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forest edge must be why most childrens games ask for name and email as well

So what's your favorite children's game?

clear ferry Jun 26, 2022, 5:23 PM

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_Pin the vulnerability on the donkey _

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ring around the heartbleed

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Hide and geoblock

forest edge Jun 26, 2022, 6:13 PM

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tidal bronze So what's your favorite children's game?

Throw cans at norwegians.. you?

tidal bronze Jun 26, 2022, 6:14 PM

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No time for games 😆

forest edge Jun 26, 2022, 6:15 PM

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tidal bronze No time for games 😆

you sure? seems to me that just going outside your home anymore is a game.. the game of risk lol

tidal bronze Jun 26, 2022, 6:16 PM

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Haven't been home in a while. OMW now. Excited.

forest edge Jun 26, 2022, 6:16 PM

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tidal bronze Haven't been home in a while. OMW now. Excited.

in a while? was you quarantined in another country?

tidal bronze Jun 26, 2022, 6:17 PM

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Well 5 days. Lol

forest edge Jun 26, 2022, 6:17 PM

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i hear monkey pox is all the rage now in eurpoe but we american's want no part of it so i could see you getting stuck over seas lol

tidal bronze Jun 26, 2022, 6:18 PM

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I was out there but that was few weeks ago. Going back in the fall. No thank you to EU summer.

forest edge Jun 26, 2022, 6:19 PM

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just think, if you had sold your fakecoin er i mean bitcoin before the market tanked you could have retired

tidal bronze Jun 26, 2022, 6:20 PM

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Don't you worry about that. I could still retire selling those 😜

forest edge Jun 26, 2022, 6:20 PM

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not for much longer lol

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you may end up owing someone else just to be rid of them haha

tidal bronze Jun 26, 2022, 6:21 PM

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You tell me when it goes below $30

forest edge Jun 26, 2022, 6:22 PM

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ok i'll message you in a week

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you can always bunk in the barn when it goes completely belly up

tidal bronze Jun 26, 2022, 6:23 PM

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I don't even look at it, I already bought the properties I wanted. But glad you are keeping a close eye for me. 🤣

forest edge Jun 26, 2022, 6:23 PM

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@dull chasm might even make room for you.. looks he needs a farm hand for his operation lol

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growing swamp is hard work i hear

tidal bronze Jun 26, 2022, 6:27 PM

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forest edge you can always bunk in the barn when it goes completely belly up

You wish you had some BTC from back in the day right? Could've been kicking back on a lounge chair next to the beach, with 68f weather right about now. Instead, counting sweat beads, under the barn shade, thinking about how beautiful california is 🤣

forest edge Jun 26, 2022, 6:29 PM

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i've had plenty of opportunities to become lazy rich.. that life wouldn't suit me lol

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prob would already been dead from eating too many grapes

clear ferry Jun 26, 2022, 7:58 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/crypto-pump-bitcoin-pump-btc-pump-pump-it-pamp-it-gif-20943061

Tenor

forest edge Jun 26, 2022, 8:06 PM

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clear ferry https://tenor.com/view/crypto-pump-bitcoin-pump-btc-pump-pump-it-pamp-it-gif-209...

silly norwats and your professional sports

tidal bronze Jun 26, 2022, 8:07 PM

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forest edge i've had plenty of opportunities to become lazy rich.. that life wouldn't suit m...

Case of sour grapes 🤣 I applaud your dire need to make hard money 👏

clear ferry Jun 26, 2022, 8:08 PM

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It's not like you do much else in Missouri these days

forest edge Jun 26, 2022, 8:08 PM

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tidal bronze Case of sour grapes 🤣 I applaud your dire need to make hard money 👏

not about hard money, about keeping active. you'll see soon enough when your ass can't get off the couch to get a beer

tidal bronze Jun 26, 2022, 8:09 PM

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clear ferry It's not like you do much else in Missouri these days

Lmao. Always losing internet when passing KC as well. All that grass and cow sucking the interwebs

clear ferry Jun 26, 2022, 8:10 PM

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IoC

forest edge Jun 26, 2022, 8:11 PM

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tidal bronze Lmao. Always losing internet when passing KC as well. All that grass and cow suc...

it's the unified farts when we sense cali's are near

shadow prawn Jun 26, 2022, 8:19 PM

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sheesh rüdiger

clear ferry Jun 26, 2022, 8:21 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/veruella-rex-comissar-komissar-gif-14481312

Tenor

tidal bronze Jun 26, 2022, 8:30 PM

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forest edge it's the unified farts when we sense cali's are near

clear ferry Jun 26, 2022, 9:22 PM

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https://i.redd.it/0tdrm8722z791.jpg

orchid rose Jun 26, 2022, 9:33 PM

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accurate financial advice. Get off the Internet

clear ferry Jun 26, 2022, 9:35 PM

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I see we are on par with Finland in regard to inflation

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https://tenor.com/view/yikes-alexis-alexis-rose-annie-murphy-schitts-creek-gif-20774183

Tenor

orchid rose Jun 26, 2022, 9:37 PM

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Imagine having the government do something about it. Ha

clear ferry Jun 26, 2022, 9:38 PM

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What, your vodka isn't subsidized yet?

orchid rose Jun 26, 2022, 9:38 PM

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Very much taxed to the teeth

clear ferry Jun 26, 2022, 9:39 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/futurama-farnsworth-shreds-to-shreds-you-say-gif-19143723

Tenor

orchid rose Jun 26, 2022, 9:40 PM

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Not to get too political, but I'm okay with all this. I just find the difference in reaction from countries curious

clear ferry Jun 26, 2022, 9:44 PM

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We did increase the interest from 0.25 to 0.75 to be fair

orchid rose Jun 26, 2022, 9:46 PM

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We're not quite that high right now, but I wouldn't excepct we're far from it either

clear ferry Jun 26, 2022, 9:47 PM

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Expectations are 2.0 by spring 23 i think

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Which sucks for the the idiots with huge mortgages

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(read property speculation)

tidal bronze Jun 26, 2022, 9:49 PM

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Speculation!!!??? 🤣 best times as far as I could tell.

orchid rose Jun 26, 2022, 10:15 PM

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I'd say it's a bit harsh to blame people for the latest bull market

clear ferry Jun 26, 2022, 10:36 PM

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I'm not known for not being harsh

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yuckdoge

orchid rose Jun 26, 2022, 10:44 PM

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Only because people don't talk to you

forest edge Jun 26, 2022, 11:45 PM

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orchid rose Not to get too political, but I'm okay with all this. I just find the difference...

why would you be ok?

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inflation is dumb, it's lopsided that further tips the scale causing imbalance

dusky plank Jun 26, 2022, 11:51 PM

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clear ferry https://tenor.com/view/veruella-rex-comissar-komissar-gif-14481312

Kommisar Rex 🐶

clear ferry Jun 27, 2022, 5:51 AM

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Ja!

shadow prawn Jun 27, 2022, 7:06 AM

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Can you let that?

clear ferry Jun 27, 2022, 7:09 AM

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Nein?

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My fat ass actually took the train to work today

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€35 cheaper than parking, and i can work 1h each way on the train

umbral cliff Jun 27, 2022, 7:32 AM

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clear ferry €35 cheaper than parking, and i can work 1h each way on the train

Jesus christ how expensive is parking

low harness Jun 27, 2022, 7:35 AM

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clever mortar Jun 27, 2022, 7:40 AM

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umbral cliff Jesus christ how expensive is parking

Parking can be painful if you live near a big city or are somewhere very popular. I have a colleague who pays more for parking at his local train station than I do for my return train trip to my local office. Quite a lot more at that ablobjoy

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Parking at my local station is free party_cat

umbral cliff Jun 27, 2022, 9:40 AM

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clever mortar Parking can be painful if you live near a big city or are somewhere very popular...

Even then that seems excessive pricing. Most I’ve ever paid has been $15 for the day. Currently work is near a supermarket that’s got free parking so I use that lol

forest edge Jun 27, 2022, 10:53 AM

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just build miles and miles of parking lots and parking becomes free everywhere

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we use to have metered parking for along the street sides of commercial building in certian places but I think that has all gone away now

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there way parking garage equivalents of that but all you had to do is get the voucher stamped at any of the stores nearby and the parking was free, course it was only like 1-2 dollars or something if you didn't get it stamped

clear ferry Jun 27, 2022, 11:23 AM

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umbral cliff Jesus christ how expensive is parking

My regular parking spot in Oslo is €55 for a day, the most expensive I've seen is €140 for a day

umbral cliff Jun 27, 2022, 11:34 AM

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forest edge just build miles and miles of parking lots and parking becomes free everywhere

Or bus routes to mean people aren’t forced to drive lol

umbral cliff Jun 27, 2022, 11:34 AM

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clear ferry My regular parking spot in Oslo is €55 for a day, the most expensive I've seen i...

That’s a lot

glacial knot Jun 27, 2022, 11:35 AM

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I’ve paid 7.50€/h in Munich before

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Inner city parking 💸

clear ferry Jun 27, 2022, 11:37 AM

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I don't care much since I'm not the one paying

last cedar Jun 27, 2022, 2:46 PM

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clear ferry My regular parking spot in Oslo is €55 for a day, the most expensive I've seen i...

Similar in Stockholm, sick

static schooner Jun 27, 2022, 2:58 PM

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Those prices just say 'don't come here' or at least 'don't drive here'

late gate Jun 27, 2022, 3:23 PM

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My last parking spot in oslo (skøyen) was $12/hour. Ripoff

static schooner Jun 27, 2022, 3:28 PM

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Sounds like airport parking

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I remember when they just straight up doubled the daily cost of parking at the Atlanta airport

late gate Jun 27, 2022, 3:33 PM

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That was office parking

clear ferry Jun 27, 2022, 3:35 PM

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When I visited more customers I use to pay $5-600 a month in parking

glacial knot Jun 27, 2022, 3:35 PM

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HPE did, not you

clear ferry Jun 27, 2022, 3:54 PM

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Well, I physically paid it

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With their card

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ratJAM

urban wadi Jun 27, 2022, 7:40 PM

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@junior forge Do you need a hug after the pestering you got on Reddit today? 😚

clear ferry Jun 27, 2022, 8:21 PM

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Think I'm gonna order some Beyerdynamic dt990 pro 250ohm

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Tried them today, and they are amazing

junior forge Jun 27, 2022, 8:24 PM

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urban wadi <@243794953032040448> Do you need a hug after the pestering you got on Reddit to...

Thanks @urban wadi ❤️

orchid rose Jun 27, 2022, 9:01 PM

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I had those for years atx. They are quite nice and very comfy, but hair gets inside the driver easily causing them to start crackling after a while

clear ferry Jun 27, 2022, 9:33 PM

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Good thing I don't have hair

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ratJAM

static schooner Jun 27, 2022, 9:40 PM

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seems like a drastic step to adapt to some new headphones

clear ferry Jun 27, 2022, 9:53 PM

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atx

uneven siren Jun 27, 2022, 10:00 PM

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Is this a normal phase. I’ve been loving home assistant so much that i crave any YouTube videos or podcasts, articles on what to do next.

dusky plank Jun 27, 2022, 10:38 PM

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yes it is. except for the yt videos part

young sigil Jun 27, 2022, 10:47 PM

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urban wadi <@243794953032040448> Do you need a hug after the pestering you got on Reddit to...

I thought frenk handled it rather well with the pinned and follow-up posts. The original poster seems satisfied even if there are still malcontents that fail to understand. reddit is cancer.

clear ferry Jun 28, 2022, 6:28 AM

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YouTubers

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yuckdoge

dusky plank Jun 28, 2022, 6:54 AM

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francku uploaded a new video. it's been a full year frenck and you only give us 5 seconds handgesture

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clear ferry Jun 28, 2022, 7:02 AM

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https://tenor.com/bhdYN.gif

Tenor

urban wadi Jun 28, 2022, 8:16 AM

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young sigil I thought frenk handled it rather well with the pinned and follow-up posts. The ...

I agree. It would have been more fun though if he responded in a way they apparently expected. 😁

dusky plank Jun 28, 2022, 9:50 AM

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I still have to complain about this #the-water-cooler channel being so low in the list.
I always have to scroll and find it.
This is very frustrating for disabled people like me.
Vote 1/2 to up this channel

clear ferry Jun 28, 2022, 9:51 AM

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https://tenor.com/bqK1U.gif

Tenor

glacial knot Jun 28, 2022, 10:28 AM

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dusky plank I still have to complain about this <#397426163649216512> channel being so low i...

Being Austrian isn’t enough to count as disability

dusky plank Jun 28, 2022, 10:30 AM

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you are rude

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any nmap experts available?

clever mortar Jun 28, 2022, 10:30 AM

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I know how to type man nmap if that helps zany

dusky plank Jun 28, 2022, 10:32 AM

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I use nmap --script rtsp-url-brute -p 554 <ip>to discover a tuya cameras feed, it brings back https://paste.debian.net/1245467/

there is a pw and a user in there (last line). user & pw seem to be accepted but the feed does not start in vlc

clever mortar Jun 28, 2022, 10:33 AM

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|   other responses:
|     401:

That'd be unauthorised

dusky plank Jun 28, 2022, 10:34 AM

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eh, so the listed urls are just tries then I guess

clever mortar Jun 28, 2022, 10:34 AM

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Yes

dusky plank Jun 28, 2022, 10:35 AM

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awesome, I fail spectacularly at this

clever mortar Jun 28, 2022, 10:35 AM

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Yeah, but at least you tried, that's more than most would do...

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Besides, today I learned that NMAP has the ability to brute force stuff... which shows how long it's been since I last used it in anger ablobjoy

dusky plank Jun 28, 2022, 10:37 AM

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this thing is weird, https://ipc-eu.ismartlife.me/ works (stream in the browser) but anything else including a homebrew script to retrieve auth and rtsps:// url from tuya api just fails.
also the integration just fails with INVALIDDATA

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I wonder what that website is doing

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that nmap command might be a blessing for 90% of camera users in HA though, maybe put it in the docs

clear ferry Jun 28, 2022, 10:58 AM

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clever mortar Besides, today I learned that NMAP has the ability to brute force stuff... which...

https://tenor.com/besk9.gif

Tenor

dusky plank Jun 28, 2022, 11:29 AM

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bruh, 8 year olds shooting 1 year olds

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https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-21259025

Tenor

scenic radish Jun 28, 2022, 12:59 PM

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The solution is more guns, obviously

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We need bigger guns to shoot all the smaller guns

cunning onyx Jun 28, 2022, 1:00 PM

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clever mortar Jun 28, 2022, 1:01 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/brrrrt-bret-a10-warthog-gif-18817481

Tenor

clear ferry Jun 28, 2022, 1:26 PM

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https://tenor.com/GOkU.gif

Tenor

late gate Jun 28, 2022, 2:03 PM

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Enough Teams Meetings for today. My head is going to explode

clear ferry Jun 28, 2022, 2:05 PM

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I've only been fixing my 3d printer, labbing on my nested esxi and had one call

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Great day

late gate Jun 28, 2022, 2:05 PM

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Im kinda tired of 3d printing. Got my prusa sitting there since I moved in here two years ago, not started once

tidal bronze Jun 28, 2022, 2:31 PM

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I think 3d printers collecting dust is a thing.

late gate Jun 28, 2022, 2:31 PM

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yeah. people print the boat, then it collecting dust

tidal bronze Jun 28, 2022, 2:32 PM

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Lol. I did use them a lot for prototypes and some mounts for the house. But those days are long gone. Got few Prusa units just idling.

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BTW never printed a boat 😀

late gate Jun 28, 2022, 2:38 PM

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I thought the boat was a right of passage lol

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Im seriously thinking of selling the prusa. The value is holding well

glacial knot Jun 28, 2022, 3:02 PM

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yea, mine's been in high use for 2-3 months and now idling for almost a year :/

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it'll probably get some use soon-ish. if I can figure out why that stupid IR-emitter isn't working the way I want it to

late gate Jun 28, 2022, 3:38 PM

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For those who use AppleTV and Plex note that Infuse Player got a big update with combined series function now that plays much better than the native player

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:14 PM

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and where in offtopic now

fathom sparrow Jun 28, 2022, 4:15 PM

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There's no way that software is 100% all in house

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:15 PM

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never is

fathom sparrow Jun 28, 2022, 4:15 PM

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it's nearly impossible to do now-a-days and all IDE's have built in ways to grab packages.

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:15 PM

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its not the software that in house its the threat sigs, anyone can build them based on packet caps. the software itself is all China

fathom sparrow Jun 28, 2022, 4:16 PM

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it would be irresponsible for developers to build a logging engine, for example

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:16 PM

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theres no way the threat sigs are all inhouse

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they are using paid definitions + inhouse ones for sure

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nobody rebuilds the house thats already built

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:17 PM

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I know this because I found a nasty bug in PANOS and had to sit thru a call with the software engineers and listen to them yell at eachother in Chinese while trying to troubleshoot the issue... turns out to fix the bug they had to break something else that reduce the number of supported sessions the device could handle... I 100% blame agile dev for the crap being deployed into production now days

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:17 PM

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how did they break session limits 😐

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:17 PM

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we are all beta testers and we pay tons of $ to do it

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:18 PM

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yep, all these firewall companys make their end-users beta test

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I know because I used to work support for one, the techs never got the firmware before the end-customer

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:18 PM

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dunno... when the fix came out it had the side effect of reducing session limit by 20 or something like that. but only for that specific hardware

fathom sparrow Jun 28, 2022, 4:18 PM

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all companyes make end-users beta test: FTFY

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:18 PM

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customers would upgrade to the latest release, and the techs had to figure out what broke after the fact.

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:19 PM

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agile dev is a mistake.... waterfall was so nice but people want things faster so here we are

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:19 PM

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agile is the bane of stability

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I guess theres a reason ciscos older stuff was renown

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their newer shit like Meraki, not so much

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:20 PM

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void mortar customers would upgrade to the latest release, and the techs had to figure out w...

This is so true, they get the hardware after all customers have got theirs. my account engineer dude is still waiting on a new PA-4x lab unit to play with

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omg Meraki... I got a free switch that came with a 3 yr license... i enjoyed busting it up and tossing it in the trash... who wants a switch that disables itself when the subscription expires

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:22 PM

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right?

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and a lot of companies are pushing toward that route

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:22 PM

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at least turn into a dumb switch that still works, what a scam

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:22 PM

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they want to lock you into their ecosystem, and then take it all away from you if you don't pay up their ever increasing licensing fees

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:22 PM

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yeah and they can increase the renewal costs each year

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:23 PM

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meanwhile, the company is being sold off to the next angel investor or other shit tier company like Thoma Bravo.

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little by little, the US based support is gutted and replaced with techs in India with little to no training.

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:24 PM

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dont forget that useless "premium" support is an extra $30,000.00 per year per device and in some cases required to be compliant

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:24 PM

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that "Premium" support doesn't even give you a different tech in most cases

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its just the same guys as non-premium, but moves you to the front of the call queue lol

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:24 PM

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I am in the wrong business.... I need to come up with a pretty dashboard that does nothing and sell it for tons... i dont even have to provide any support after the check clears

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:25 PM

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I like the other side of that coin, the hardware replacement programs that companies have

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where you pay upfront for faster rma/replacement if something is wrong

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:26 PM

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I like to ask the vendor " hey i am going to give you half a million dollars to renew can you at least send my team some shirts or something" they almost never do

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:26 PM

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and all it is, is the cost x 2, you're basically pre-paying for a replacement box.

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:26 PM

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yep lol RMAs.... fun times

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:26 PM

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yea, they phase out the free schwag when the company moves from "startup mentality" to "profit as much as possible mentality"

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and all the veteran support techs that know everything jump ship to better pay

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:28 PM

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yeah, they get purchased by another company and the vets bail and now its worse because nobody knows the product when you need help

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:28 PM

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then you get the managers that come in that are all about metrics metrics metrics

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:29 PM

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strange things going on lately too... Broadcom/VMWare? Blackberry/Cylance? I guess anyone with money wants to get in

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:30 PM

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yea, their buying up all the known profit centers

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:30 PM

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void mortar then you get the managers that come in that are all about metrics metrics metric...

I have to fight a battle to make sure my team does InfoSec things and not turn into a glorified tier 3 support.... the managers are oft roadblocks

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:30 PM

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you know their just gonna slim down everything to operate with the bare minimum while raising the fees

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:30 PM

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yep lol

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it seems we both are ready for vacation

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:31 PM

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I could use a vacation

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i jumped ship last year from that job though fortuantely enough

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the sheer amount of firewalls with forwarding rules that allowed all traffic in to their DC....

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:36 PM

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well thats the "easy" way to just "make it all work" 😄

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:36 PM

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sooo many RDP rules too....

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especially with their IPS configured for "monitoring" mode...

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:39 PM

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sounds like a small shop with no dedicated security team? I have had to deal with some vendors that do things or say things that make my left arm start going numb... every year I have to perform DD/RA for Equifax... they are idiots

clear ferry Jun 28, 2022, 4:39 PM

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Did someone say cloud bullshit?

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My cloud radar pinged

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:39 PM

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cloud to butt

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:40 PM

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another vendor had such bad code you could look at other people's records by changing the GET id param in the URL (is it 1995 again?) we bailed on that contract

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:40 PM

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that just means you can form your own sql queries for your own custom reports!

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:40 PM

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cloud = bad idea. but how do you get the execs to understand that? you don't because they buy into all the marketing and sales hype.

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:41 PM

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lmfao and so many of these companies are changing their firewall names from "NG" to "Cloudgen" bullshit

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lmfao

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:41 PM

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"What do you mean we have to spend a bunch of capex to put our stuff in the cloud I thought it was cheaper and magical"

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:42 PM

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next-generation to cloud-generation. like who buys into this shit?

clear ferry Jun 28, 2022, 4:42 PM

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All of them

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I'm glad I work with military stuff

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yuckdoge

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:43 PM

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Everyime a SaaS solution goes down I'm like "well I told you it was not magical and the "redundancy" is not any better than on-prem... Azure DNS goes down... oops ther goes everything but I thought it had failover

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:43 PM

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but wait, theres government cloud too

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:43 PM

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at least the govt gets their "own" cloud? lol

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:43 PM

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its just cloud --verions

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versions

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Azure government cloud is basically azure from 3 years ago, the ui and all that is older

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:44 PM

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networking in the cloud is shite

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:44 PM

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you don't like that black box?

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:45 PM

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total kludge of routes and ACLs that may or may not work with your virtual firewalls and load balancers... its like all held together with bent nails and tape

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:45 PM

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virtual firewalls are a joke too

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even firewall companies don't know how to setup their firewalls in the cloud properly

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:46 PM

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big time! had to buy 6 HA pairs for one cloud instance just to get east-west, inbound, and outbound

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:46 PM

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its all a "try random shit till it works, hope theres no gaping holes"

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azure changed their things again? gonna have to rework the install scripts again...

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:46 PM

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i was starting to calm down and now smoeone got me all riled out about cloud lol

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I don't log into the azure portal... it changes every time

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:47 PM

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i dreaded working with cloud firewalls, none of em are configured even remotely the same

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:47 PM

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ill let my engineer deal with that 😄

clear ferry Jun 28, 2022, 4:47 PM

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Now let me remind you that hyperv still exists @midnight adder

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And people run it

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Freely

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:47 PM

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always random fucking vnets and shit

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you get a free license for hyperv with your domain controller smb purchase!

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:48 PM

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Can we just go back to using 8 bit Atari and Amiga computers with dialup BBS and no Internet?

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:48 PM

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don't get me started on sharepoint

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:48 PM

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sharepoint is a hog

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:48 PM

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or office365

clear ferry Jun 28, 2022, 4:48 PM

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I'm glad I stopped being a Microsoft admin

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16 years ago

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:48 PM

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"why are the CPUs all maxed at 100% all the time?" "oh that's just sharepoint"

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:49 PM

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why don't my sharepoint links anymore

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did you upgrade it wrong?

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theres a wrong way to upgrade it?

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:49 PM

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here just go to my sharepoint site pastes URL that is 4 paragraphs long

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:49 PM

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let me share you this file "whips out sharepoint"

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:49 PM

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If its not on the front page of the corp sharepoint site you wont find it

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spends 2 hours trying to dig something up on sharepoint *finds it * its the irrelevant 4 year old document

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:51 PM

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spend 2 hours searching up docs, its for a version that was 10 years ago, the entire gui and everythings changed.

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:52 PM

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its like when you do a google search and accidently click on a result link and its a PDF 😦

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:52 PM

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when you're backup appliance support tells you it's microsofts fault

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vss writers all the way down.

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:52 PM

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Not a fan of any MS server tech TBH IIS with .net app pools need to die

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servers down.. did you try restarting the app pools again

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:53 PM

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ew iis

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give me a lamp stack or nginx stack over that anyday

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:54 PM

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100% ^

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:55 PM

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now that we got like 2 year expiring certs, those are extra fun now too

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"help me install my certificate"

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"well, your chain bundle is missing the root certificate"...

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:56 PM

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certs are becoming useless now... badguys just get all the certs they want from digicert/komodo

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:56 PM

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everything should include an acme certbot built in these days

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:56 PM

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also... can we PLEASE standardize the way to install and configure certs on everything

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:57 PM

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right?

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"we need your cert in PEM format"

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private key is encrypted with a password and fails

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no method for providing the password to said system

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:57 PM

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we need your key decrypted, we need it encrypted, we dont need it at all, upload using the web UI, upload directly to the server, place in some directory but its not the same as the other stuff

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:58 PM

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make sure its named right

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:58 PM

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pk password contains a special character that breaks the import/decrypt

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:58 PM

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did you edit it with notepad? now its got the wrong endline characters

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 4:59 PM

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I have no fear of AI taking over the world if we are in the year 2022 and still dealing with these types of things 😄

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 4:59 PM

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yea I write anyone off that thinks AI is even remotely close to being a threat

midnight adder Jun 28, 2022, 5:00 PM

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well thanks for the tech/I.T. rant session time to get some air

void mortar Jun 28, 2022, 5:01 PM

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lol

dusky plank Jun 28, 2022, 5:02 PM

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Bildschirmfoto_2022-06-28_um_19.02.10.png

glacial knot Jun 28, 2022, 5:14 PM

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I saw hyber-w 🤢

dusky plank Jun 28, 2022, 5:18 PM

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clear ferry Jun 28, 2022, 5:28 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/ping-discord-angry-admin-discord-mod-gif-19439076

Tenor

cunning onyx Jun 28, 2022, 5:32 PM

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dusky plank

Tru dat.

static schooner Jun 28, 2022, 5:33 PM

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Cloud is distributed, so inherently difficult to F

clear ferry Jun 28, 2022, 5:34 PM

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Only if you pay extra it is

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Oh nice, no availability zones

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https://tenor.com/view/marge-ashamed-face-covered-gif-18630395

Tenor

cunning onyx Jun 28, 2022, 5:39 PM

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haha, we lost 5 hosts at once the other day, they were totally all in the same rack, just an entire cluster, in a single rack, shitty infrastructure design for ten times the price. Hot damn cloud.

glacial knot Jun 28, 2022, 5:41 PM

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Hey, with cloud it may have been 5 machines on the same metal either way

cunning onyx Jun 28, 2022, 5:41 PM

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No, it was five hosts, not VMs, five hosts out of a six host cluster.

glacial knot Jun 28, 2022, 5:41 PM

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I need to ask our admins, but I think our 5 hosts are all in the same rack

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Then again, I do know that our backup is in the same DC as production env

cunning onyx Jun 28, 2022, 5:42 PM

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no bueno my friend.

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you lose one top of rack switch and you are screwed.

glacial knot Jun 28, 2022, 5:43 PM

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I think we have a total of 2 racks 😄
We can only lose one host from the cluster either way. Any more and we have to shut down stuff

cunning onyx Jun 28, 2022, 5:44 PM

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Oh well, when you are that small.. it matters less.

glacial knot Jun 28, 2022, 5:45 PM

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No customer facing service is on those either way
Just our entire production env for dev machines

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Including Jira, bitbucket and teamcity

late gate Jun 28, 2022, 6:23 PM

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Im so happy I didnt become a Homey user. They have now everything behind a paywall. Need backup? Please pay! We released a better automation, want it? Please pay extra! And the unit cost over 450USD

static schooner Jun 28, 2022, 6:24 PM

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if only Home Assistant Yellow was spherical

late gate Jun 28, 2022, 6:25 PM

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with a led strip would be awesome

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Funny thing is HA yellow is superiour hardware vs homey, even with "only" a PI

clever mortar Jun 28, 2022, 6:27 PM

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static schooner if only Home Assistant Yellow was spherical

I can see it now, Home Assistant Orange, grab home automation by the ball

static schooner Jun 28, 2022, 6:28 PM

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so this is because they build in the dongles:

Supported Devices 50,000+ 1800 (Integrations)

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the comparison table isn't really very flattering

late gate Jun 28, 2022, 6:28 PM

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You can only open the door without subscription, to lock it you have to pay 15/mon

static schooner Jun 28, 2022, 6:29 PM

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not a strong case

late gate Jun 28, 2022, 6:29 PM

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homey got a lot of PR somehow

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Im not sure why

clever mortar Jun 28, 2022, 6:29 PM

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Marketing budget

dusky plank Jun 28, 2022, 6:30 PM

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RGB folks! it has RGB

late gate Jun 28, 2022, 6:30 PM

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yeah the RGB

static schooner Jun 28, 2022, 6:30 PM

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my HA box sits on a shelf in a closet 🙂

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I guess it could amuse the spiders

dusky plank Jun 28, 2022, 6:31 PM

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next iteration of home assistant to buy as product has to be Home Assistant RGB, F that blue and yellow kindergarten

late gate Jun 28, 2022, 6:32 PM

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see we are brainstorming here

dusky plank Jun 28, 2022, 6:33 PM

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you are maybe, I am commanding

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https://tenor.com/view/mussolini-serious-who-cares-gif-5388395

Tenor

late gate Jun 28, 2022, 6:34 PM

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Home Assistant: Dictator Edition

dusky plank Jun 28, 2022, 6:36 PM

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last night I had my balcony door open. a marten got up to the third floor and pissed in my living room. wtf

late gate Jun 28, 2022, 6:40 PM

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Well deserved

dusky plank Jun 28, 2022, 6:41 PM

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I will destroy him next time, camera is installed mr. marten!

clear ferry Jun 28, 2022, 6:48 PM

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cunning onyx no bueno my friend.

So like any customer who ever bought Cisco UCS then, every four days when the ToR died randomly

clear ferry Jun 28, 2022, 6:49 PM

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late gate Im so happy I didnt become a Homey user. They have now everything behind a paywa...

Lol one of my "tech" friends bought it, he didn't have time for messing around

clear ferry Jun 28, 2022, 6:50 PM

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static schooner my HA box sits on a shelf in a closet 🙂

My HA box has dual 10G, 128GB RAM, 90+TB storage and 24 cores, that should be advertised in a spec sheet somehwere

late gate Jun 28, 2022, 6:51 PM

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well you are just compensating for other things

clear ferry Jun 28, 2022, 6:55 PM

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Yes, for my immensly cold garage in winter

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Or my ridiciously large toes

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https://tenor.com/GWHT.gif

Tenor

dusky plank Jun 28, 2022, 7:01 PM

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one horse can have up to 25 horsepower

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now you know

clear ferry Jun 28, 2022, 7:02 PM

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Mr Hands ?

dusky plank Jun 28, 2022, 7:03 PM

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dont get me started on that topic

willow sundial Jun 28, 2022, 11:31 PM

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Anyone have a 433Mhz receiver they use for receiving all the signals for kinetic buttons? that they would recommend?

inner lava Jun 29, 2022, 3:44 AM

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Think I'm being a bit dense here...
Are there any native clients/programs for Windows that can connect to ser2net devices? I think I'm simply having half a stroke here and it'd probably be super easy but nothing I search for comes up with anything useful 🙃

last cedar Jun 29, 2022, 5:43 AM

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static schooner if only Home Assistant Yellow was spherical

If you put it in a ball it would be spherical

last cedar Jun 29, 2022, 5:44 AM

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dusky plank last night I had my balcony door open. a marten got up to the third floor and pi...

It could be worse, could have been a trash panda....

clear ferry Jun 29, 2022, 6:45 AM

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inner lava Think I'm being a bit dense here... Are there any native clients/programs for Wi...

it is in the name, it presents a serial port over an ethernet network, so anything that can open a tcp\udp connection? telnet is readily avaliable

clear ferry Jun 29, 2022, 7:32 AM

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Hesus on a stick, I love targetcli

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How have I not used this before

umbral cliff Jun 29, 2022, 9:01 AM

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clear ferry Hesus on a stick, I love `targetcli`

What does it do

clear ferry Jun 29, 2022, 9:10 AM

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Configuring iSCSI presentation

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In a proper context based CLI

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I ordered this one for my wife, but she didn't want it so now it's mine

#

#

KEK

green inlet Jun 29, 2022, 10:17 AM

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Wifey making me one 😍

somber flint Jun 29, 2022, 12:01 PM

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https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-hack-due-to-some-of-its-passwords-being-just-password/

pcgamer

AMD hack due to some of its passwords being just "password"

Extortion group allegedly has "more than 450Gb" of AMD's data.

dusky plank Jun 29, 2022, 2:16 PM

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how is that even possible in 2022? having a "password" password?

glacial knot Jun 29, 2022, 2:19 PM

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I have root root and root admin in some places

finite atlas Jun 29, 2022, 2:23 PM

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i use root root on my router and wifi access points

glacial knot Jun 29, 2022, 2:28 PM

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Just usw. wep for wifi. Then you can always recover

finite atlas Jun 29, 2022, 2:45 PM

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as login for the web ui, the wifi password is einszweidreivier

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opsec 10/10 i know

clear ferry Jun 29, 2022, 3:21 PM

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I use Password123! In all my labs

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dogwink

late gate Jun 29, 2022, 4:06 PM

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thats my password and qwerty

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dont disclose that

orchid rose Jun 29, 2022, 4:09 PM

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my phone pin code is 1234

shadow prawn Jun 29, 2022, 4:40 PM

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My phone pin code is 0190 666666

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The most erotic pin code in germany

clear ferry Jun 29, 2022, 5:35 PM

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9️⃣

late gate Jun 29, 2022, 5:49 PM

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At least now I made my doorbell say "go away" when someone is ringing it

static schooner Jun 29, 2022, 6:36 PM

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the raison d'etre of Home Automation

late gate Jun 29, 2022, 9:10 PM

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I have been uber effective today with ui creation

somber flint Jun 30, 2022, 2:11 AM

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https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/06/a-wide-range-of-routers-are-under-attack-by-new-unusually-sophisticated-malware/

Ars Technica

A wide range of routers are under attack by new, unusually sophisti...

Router-stalking ZuoRAT is likely the work of a sophisticated nation-state, researchers say.

clear ferry Jun 30, 2022, 5:20 AM

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Again I'm glad I haven't run a consumer router in 22 years

umbral cliff Jun 30, 2022, 5:27 AM

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clear ferry Again I'm glad I haven't run a consumer router in 22 years

Says the one who ran linksys velops recently

clear ferry Jun 30, 2022, 5:27 AM

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Not as a router, or wan exposed

finite atlas Jun 30, 2022, 6:45 AM

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somber flint https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/06/a-wide-range-of-routers-a...

Easy solution: https://openwrt.org/

OpenWrt Wiki

Welcome to the OpenWrt Project

Welcome to the OpenWrt Project The OpenWrt Project is a Linux operating system targeting embedded devices. Instead of trying to create a single, static firmware, OpenWrt provides a fully writable filesystem with package management. This frees you from the application selection and configuration provided by the vendor and allows you to customi...

late gate Jun 30, 2022, 6:49 AM

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Argh. why is it so hard to decide if I want to organize the HA UI in entities (lights, blinds, switches etc) or rooms (living room - lights, bedroom - lights) etc. Whatever I do is something not feeling right

clever mortar Jun 30, 2022, 6:55 AM

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finite atlas Easy solution: https://openwrt.org/

Except, if you read the article, you'll see one of the example URLs is /cgi-bin/luci

somber flint Jun 30, 2022, 6:58 AM

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Lol

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https://www.opencve.io/cve?vendor=openwrt

clear ferry Jun 30, 2022, 6:59 AM

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Lulz openwrt

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pepe_yikes

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Oh no, all commercial routers are exploitable, let's run the same software that 99% of other people think isn't exploitable

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Bigger attack surface, more likely to be affected

finite atlas Jun 30, 2022, 7:08 AM

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clever mortar Except, if you read the article, you'll see one of the example URLs is `/cgi-bin...

it dosnt specify which version however + i'm running arm and not mips

clear ferry Jun 30, 2022, 7:14 AM

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Except for the kernel the code base is probably 100% the same

umbral cliff Jun 30, 2022, 7:56 AM

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clear ferry Oh no, all commercial routers are exploitable, let's run the same software that ...

More chance of openwrt to be patched than a generic consumer router firmware

clear ferry Jun 30, 2022, 7:56 AM

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Sure, but it will be a very likely target for exploits

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Due to install base

umbral cliff Jun 30, 2022, 7:58 AM

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That’s also true, still is an option once it gets patched

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Because consumer stuff rarely if ever gets updates

late gate Jun 30, 2022, 8:12 AM

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Nothing beats Unifi 😍 🥰

clear ferry Jun 30, 2022, 8:13 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/fendimuax-stunnafad-gif-20774624

Tenor

finite atlas Jun 30, 2022, 8:22 AM

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there are also many routers, that use openwrt 18. something as their os that are still being sold today
which is 2-4 years old

its likely that those routers are affacted

dusky plank Jun 30, 2022, 8:38 AM

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Good morning ladies

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guess i‘m safe with my double nat setup 🤮😅

clear ferry Jun 30, 2022, 8:39 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/tipping-smile-gif-12493391

Tenor

dusky plank Jun 30, 2022, 8:44 AM

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full grove Jun 30, 2022, 9:17 AM

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glacial knot Jun 30, 2022, 9:18 AM

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dusky plank

For my sanity I’ll assume that this is a British or Japanese model

dusky plank Jun 30, 2022, 9:31 AM

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glacial knot Jun 30, 2022, 9:51 AM

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dusky plank

Driver seat on the right.
Or could just be someone inside that jumps over the middle console and drives I guess

dusky plank Jun 30, 2022, 10:01 AM

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Could be, dunno, could be real also 😄

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http://shenoaclinic.com/

Shenoa Clinic

admin

Homepage - Shenoa Clinic

This overpriced clinic won’t pay their web developer.

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lel, top kek

umbral cliff Jun 30, 2022, 10:19 AM

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dusky plank http://shenoaclinic.com/

I see someone also browses programmer humour

dusky plank Jun 30, 2022, 10:19 AM

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no sir I do not

clear ferry Jun 30, 2022, 10:22 AM

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Nothing will ever beat

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arngren.net

finite atlas Jun 30, 2022, 10:23 AM

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http://arngren.net

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website not found

dusky plank Jun 30, 2022, 10:27 AM

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its been beaten

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besigt

true mural Jun 30, 2022, 10:29 AM

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I don't know where to start and ask about this but I have a relay that is controlled with 433mhz RF. Is there a simple way to add wifi support or replace it with wifi? Using a nodemcu or something like that

clear ferry Jun 30, 2022, 10:33 AM

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What the fuck

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That site has been up for 30 years

clever mortar Jun 30, 2022, 10:35 AM

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true mural I don't know where to start and ask about this but I have a relay that is contro...

#hardware-archived is probably what you wanted, or maybe #diy-archived

finite atlas Jun 30, 2022, 10:36 AM

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clear ferry That site has been up for 30 years

has

shadow prawn Jun 30, 2022, 10:45 AM

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Had

clear ferry Jun 30, 2022, 10:59 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/sobbing-sob-cry-tears-sad-gif-24749164

Tenor

finite atlas Jun 30, 2022, 11:14 AM

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come here big daddy, i'll give you a hug

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https://tenor.com/view/cat-raccoon-cuddle-big-fat-hug-gif-17054010

Tenor

clear ferry Jun 30, 2022, 11:19 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/daddy-excited-omg-will-ferrell-happy-gif-16356215

Tenor

late gate Jun 30, 2022, 12:45 PM

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Countdown to vacation

clear ferry Jun 30, 2022, 12:49 PM

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No need, it already started LeoKek

late gate Jun 30, 2022, 12:52 PM

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starting for me today

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getting out of here at 15

dusky plank Jun 30, 2022, 12:53 PM

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There is a strawberry growing out of my strawberry

late gate Jun 30, 2022, 12:56 PM

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inception

clear ferry Jun 30, 2022, 1:08 PM

#

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Getting some strawberries this year

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And tomatoes

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open oracle Jun 30, 2022, 2:28 PM

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shadow prawn Jun 30, 2022, 5:17 PM

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clear ferry

Where‘s the Brokkoli

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🥦

clear ferry Jun 30, 2022, 5:19 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/cat-katze-broccoli-disgusted-disgusted-cat-gif-21545989

Tenor

orchid rose Jun 30, 2022, 5:29 PM

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wtf

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who doesn't like broccoli smh

dusky plank Jun 30, 2022, 5:52 PM

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Ok telegram, will do

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Anyone wondering - Yes thats whats coming in german google results

late gate Jun 30, 2022, 6:16 PM

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Vacation, got home and fell straight asleep. Im almost 40, I need extra sleep!

shadow prawn Jun 30, 2022, 7:16 PM

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clear ferry https://tenor.com/view/cat-katze-broccoli-disgusted-disgusted-cat-gif-21545989

https://tenor.com/view/weed-mar-marijuana-gif-4360919

Tenor

Wut

▶ Play video

clear ferry Jun 30, 2022, 7:20 PM

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late gate Vacation, got home and fell straight asleep. Im almost 40, I need extra sleep!

For some reason I sleep less at 38 with two kids than at 30 with no kids

dusky plank Jun 30, 2022, 9:18 PM

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what do you guys think about fortinet products? I want a NGFW

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looking at paloalto also, their price seems less bound to service fees

clear ferry Jun 30, 2022, 9:43 PM

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Well

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They are utter shite

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In my experience

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Just a few weeks ago I was helping a customer install some new fortiswitches, he had to reboot them to get the mclag to form

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And their fortirouter refused to linkup with 40G DAC passive cables

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Let's say it like this, I've seen three customers with fortinet products the last 15 years, mostly the only reason I saw them was because they were having issues with them

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Palo is fine... But their application centric firewall bullshit works 70% of the time

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So that's a no from me dawg

dusky plank Jun 30, 2022, 9:50 PM

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hmmm what else is out there? I expect their ML techniques to keep more unwanted traffic away from my exposed services than Opnsense can provide.

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getting really malicious requests lately from CN

clear ferry Jun 30, 2022, 9:52 PM

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Well, geoblocking will get rid of most of it

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Then do suricata

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Key based login on everything and MFA

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You'll be golden

dusky plank Jun 30, 2022, 9:53 PM

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hmmm sounds good to begin with

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will have a look at suricata, sounds doable

clear ferry Jun 30, 2022, 9:55 PM

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dogwink

dusky plank Jun 30, 2022, 9:56 PM

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problem with geoblocking in my case is that my proxy sits in the dmz, I should really move it to its own network and route all of it through Opnsense instead of sending the ips to fail2ban (and blocking them with iptables) from it

clear ferry Jun 30, 2022, 10:00 PM

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Yes

orchid rose Jun 30, 2022, 10:56 PM

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Too fucking hot to sleep... What's the point of living up in the north when it's still this miserable

forest edge Jun 30, 2022, 11:31 PM

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https://youtu.be/XKe1qrQ5NtA

YouTube

BBC News

Google engineer says chatbot AI become sentient being - BBC News

A senior Google engineer says one of the company's artificial intelligence systems has become a sentient being.
The technology firm has suspended Blake Lemoine for breaching confidentiality rules -- and insists there's no evidence its AI chatbot is now free thinking.
A spokesperson for Google said while chatbots can imitate conversation, they...

▶ Play video

orchid rose Jun 30, 2022, 11:33 PM

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spoiler alert - it hasn't

finite atlas Jun 30, 2022, 11:38 PM

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orchid rose Too fucking hot to sleep... What's the point of living up in the north when it's...

how hot is it?

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and please dont cry me a river that 25°c is "hot"

orchid rose Jun 30, 2022, 11:39 PM

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28'ish inside right now

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and 25 is hot smh

finite atlas Jun 30, 2022, 11:39 PM

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cry me a river, i had to sleep at 32°c inside already

orchid rose Jun 30, 2022, 11:40 PM

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I'll sweat you a river

finite atlas Jun 30, 2022, 11:40 PM

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i sweatted myself a whole lake already

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move up further north if you want it cooler
i heard svalbard is a great place for warmth hating people like me

orchid rose Jun 30, 2022, 11:42 PM

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I guess I'll have to soon. But then the winters will be even worse

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Need to find a place where it's constantly +18-22

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and if it goes to negative then it's pretty much exactly -5

finite atlas Jun 30, 2022, 11:43 PM

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dont you have a heatpump?

orchid rose Jun 30, 2022, 11:43 PM

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nope

finite atlas Jun 30, 2022, 11:44 PM

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you must be rich if you live up north, get one

orchid rose Jun 30, 2022, 11:44 PM

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maybe some day

finite atlas Jun 30, 2022, 11:44 PM

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whats hindering you?

orchid rose Jun 30, 2022, 11:44 PM

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I live in an apartment

finite atlas Jun 30, 2022, 11:45 PM

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there are even heatpumps for that case

orchid rose Jun 30, 2022, 11:46 PM

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Sure, but this sort of weather is rather unexpected around these parts. It was 31 today and we've had years when it never went above 25 which even has a name, helle

finite atlas Jun 30, 2022, 11:47 PM

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dis is a cool village

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell,_Norway

Hell, Norway

Hell (Urban East Norwegian: [ˈhɛlː], Trøndersk: [ˈheiɽ]) is a village in the Lånke area of the municipality of Stjørdal in Trøndelag county, Norway. It is located in the western part of the municipality, about 3 kilometres (2 mi) south of the town of Stjørdalshalsen. The 1.04-square-kilometre (260-acre) village has a population (2018) of 1,589...

dusky plank Jul 1, 2022, 5:18 AM

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umbral cliff Jul 1, 2022, 5:26 AM

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Hello hello

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 6:13 AM

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Like my shirt @umbral cliff ?

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atx

umbral cliff Jul 1, 2022, 6:18 AM

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clear ferry Like my shirt <@137144563109330944> ?

Yes

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Funny

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 6:18 AM

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PepeLove

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Louis Theroux - Porn's Metoo is quite good, I like most of his episodes

young sigil Jul 1, 2022, 8:36 AM

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Why is it back-to-front?

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 9:02 AM

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Because selfie cameras do that

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waitwhat2

umbral cliff Jul 1, 2022, 9:04 AM

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Use a mirror

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think

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 9:05 AM

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yuckcat

young sigil Jul 1, 2022, 9:25 AM

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Weird. The selfie camera on my phone doesn't do that.

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 9:26 AM

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I think mine have always done that

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Might be a default setting

late gate Jul 1, 2022, 1:12 PM

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Good morning! 😴

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 1:25 PM

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You slob

glacial knot Jul 1, 2022, 1:27 PM

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weekend \o/

late gate Jul 1, 2022, 1:28 PM

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vacation!

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now I finally have the time to create a HA integration

glacial knot Jul 1, 2022, 1:29 PM

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I don't have any vacation until August this year D;

late gate Jul 1, 2022, 1:30 PM

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July is the vacation month here in Norway. Nothing is happening

glacial knot Jul 1, 2022, 1:30 PM

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Then why go on vacation when everyone is doing nothing? 😄

late gate Jul 1, 2022, 1:31 PM

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True :p Before I worked in July and just slacked off at work

glacial knot Jul 1, 2022, 1:31 PM

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also, I don't care about school vacation. Which gives me a bit more flexibility with my vacation schedule 🙂

late gate Jul 1, 2022, 1:32 PM

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yeah I dont have and kids so I dont care much

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 1:35 PM

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First year I've taken 4 week vacation in 18+ years of working full time

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HR loves that I'm getting rid of my 60+ days of vacation

late gate Jul 1, 2022, 2:24 PM

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We are a startup, so trying not having too many days extra or overtime

late gate Jul 1, 2022, 3:46 PM

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I hate pulling up a dev project a year later and nothing works as it did cause of new python requirements

glacial knot Jul 1, 2022, 3:49 PM

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I had That Just this week
Ok, this is now a different exception type. That makes More sense in context, but isn’t caught by my Code. Great

late gate Jul 1, 2022, 3:50 PM

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yeah I pulled up a 13 month old api that Im going to use as a HA integration

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I loose motivation debugging my own code hehe

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 4:22 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/yikes-alexis-alexis-rose-annie-murphy-schitts-creek-gif-20774183

Tenor

late gate Jul 1, 2022, 4:35 PM

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Its a universal law you dont remember you own code

static schooner Jul 1, 2022, 4:41 PM

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And it rots surprisingly quickly

late gate Jul 1, 2022, 4:43 PM

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yeah. I think I will just start over with python 3.10

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as I understand HA support 10 now

dusky plank Jul 1, 2022, 7:13 PM

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clear ferry https://tenor.com/view/yikes-alexis-alexis-rose-annie-murphy-schitts-creek-gif-2...

need your help senpai

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silver nest Jul 1, 2022, 7:23 PM

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For everyone who uses snapchat
They updated snap maps so you can get the exact location of people
You can get GPS locations and get directs to anyone sharing their location

If you don't want people to have the chance to stalk you then do these steps

Go to the maps section on the left
Click the cog wheel and turn on "ghost mode'

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 7:32 PM

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dusky plank

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-kenobi-of-course-i-know-him-hes-me-gif-12774102

Tenor

dusky plank Jul 1, 2022, 7:33 PM

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You have to take a look at my opnsense rules at times, I don't feel confident 😄

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 7:33 PM

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Just delete all rules

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Then you are safe

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https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-oh-no-gif-12979448

Tenor

dusky plank Jul 1, 2022, 7:34 PM

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I'm sure that makes it even worse

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 7:35 PM

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No, no rules = no traffic will ever pass

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Default deny rule

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I'm pretty sure some stuff does default allow then you have to deny

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_ubiquiti perhaps _

dusky plank Jul 1, 2022, 7:37 PM

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Thats not what I‘m trying to do 😄

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 7:38 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/trying-try-im-trying-ball-catch-gif-13403430

Tenor

dusky plank Jul 1, 2022, 7:39 PM

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just trying to get my proxy working again then I can screencast my opnsense... rn nothing works 😄

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 7:41 PM

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Screencast opnsense

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waitwhat2

dusky plank Jul 1, 2022, 7:47 PM

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cannot. access. internets from dmz 😭

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 8:01 PM

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Outgoing traffic? That is all allowed by default

dusky plank Jul 1, 2022, 8:03 PM

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not in my case

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not really outgoing, there is no gateway specified on the interface. have to go through opnsense

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 8:28 PM

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Can you produce a diagram

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angelAfatboo

dusky plank Jul 1, 2022, 8:28 PM

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you will laugh at me when i do

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 8:30 PM

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PepeLove

clever mortar Jul 1, 2022, 8:32 PM

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He'll laugh either way, you know that

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 8:33 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-alexis-rose-rude-thats-very-rude-gif-16124053

Tenor

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I'm trying to learn ospf these days, I should have years ago

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You'd laugh at my routes

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Mind you, I'm on vacation

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And I also promised country management I'd learn them our most advanced portfolio in 4 h after vacation

dusky plank Jul 1, 2022, 8:40 PM

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oh, ok i wont disturb your vacation

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 8:42 PM

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Go ahead

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I'm already invested

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Do it

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Come on

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Show me daddy mstone

dusky plank Jul 1, 2022, 8:44 PM

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...

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 8:48 PM

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doge_cry

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Your dmz is not hosted by opnsense?

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You have two wan addresses?

dusky plank Jul 1, 2022, 8:51 PM

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Bildschirmfoto_2022-07-01_um_22.51.17.png

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created the interface on proxmox, cannot specify a gateway

Bildschirmfoto_2022-07-01_um_22.52.07.png

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can access my lan services from the proxy fine with port forward rules from the new zone,
just can't get out to the internet

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opnsense of course has all 3 interfaces connected

Bildschirmfoto_2022-07-01_um_22.56.11.png

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 8:57 PM

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Does the proxy have a default gateway? And if you ping 8.8.8.8 from the proxy and go to firewall logs and insert it's ip as source in the filter rules, does it show anything blocked?

dusky plank Jul 1, 2022, 8:58 PM

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traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets````
seems like it does not know a gateway, no thats the problem 😛

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 8:58 PM

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But does the webserver have a default gateway?

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route

dusky plank Jul 1, 2022, 8:59 PM

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nothing in that table

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oh

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it just took a second

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Webserver:~$ sudo route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
default         10.0.5.1        0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 ens18
10.0.5.0        0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 ens18
172.17.0.0      0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0      0        0 docker0
172.18.0.0      0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0      0        0 br-14bf34dea4b4 ```

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so it does have opnsense as gw

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 9:00 PM

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Can it ping opnsense?

dusky plank Jul 1, 2022, 9:00 PM

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nope, icmp is filtered i guess

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port forward to lan works fine however

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can curl 10.0.5.1:80 and it gets the response from lan

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 9:02 PM

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And if you just for lulz add a top rule on the firewall of the DMZ interface with allow * * * * does it work then?

dusky plank Jul 1, 2022, 9:03 PM

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yus

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that was it?

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seems kinda brute force to me 😄

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 9:05 PM

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Well, that'll show if it is a firewall rule or not that is breaking your flow

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Rules are not logged by default, I've been fooled before by not seeing traffic blocked

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But it was me who didn't enable logging on the rule

dusky plank Jul 1, 2022, 9:06 PM

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yeah thats not the way to go I can ping my lan from the proxy now

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 9:23 PM

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dusky plank Jul 1, 2022, 9:27 PM

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ok will try again tomorrow

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nice tomatos

static schooner Jul 1, 2022, 9:28 PM

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I don't think it's PC to say that anymore

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 9:29 PM

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They are fruits of juicyness these days

forest edge Jul 1, 2022, 9:39 PM

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clear ferry

growing veggies for ants i see

clear ferry Jul 1, 2022, 9:40 PM

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cherry tomatoes yes

green inlet Jul 1, 2022, 11:49 PM

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You haven’t lived until you have eaten a proper tomato sandwich.

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Wonder bread, mayonnaise, garden fresh tomato slices, salt and pepper

finite atlas Jul 1, 2022, 11:53 PM

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dont forget the egg

green inlet Jul 2, 2022, 12:25 AM

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Well, then it isn’t a tomato sandwich

forest edge Jul 2, 2022, 12:53 AM

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just tomato on bread is nasty

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you would get more flavor just putting ketchup on bread

young sigil Jul 2, 2022, 1:11 AM

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forest edge just tomato on bread is nasty

Only if you eat store bought tomatoes.

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They grow varieties bred for ease of transport, not flavour.

forest edge Jul 2, 2022, 1:22 AM

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it's a tomato...

green inlet Jul 2, 2022, 2:00 AM

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#the-water-cooler message

static schooner Jul 2, 2022, 2:10 AM

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There is a True Scotsman, and it is @clever mortar

glacial knot Jul 2, 2022, 6:11 AM

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They changed the glue pads of the aqara contact sensors. I don't like change D:

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 8:34 AM

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forest edge it's a tomato...

A tomato is not a tomato

finite atlas Jul 2, 2022, 8:52 AM

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Its like saying all bread are the same.

umbral cliff Jul 2, 2022, 8:55 AM

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finite atlas Its like saying all bread are the same.

If you’re in America you probably only get one type of bread. Super processed plastic

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 9:03 AM

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I've seen at least two kinds of loaf in Murica!

finite atlas Jul 2, 2022, 9:05 AM

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a raccoon and which else?

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 9:06 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/wontdothat-love-meatloaf-cant-no-gif-15606032

Tenor

late gate Jul 2, 2022, 10:18 AM

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I have been using firefox for a while now. is it me, or is it faster than chrome?

finite atlas Jul 2, 2022, 10:19 AM

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samitimes firefox go fast samitimes krom go fast

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but firefox not so hunreh, needs less ressources

late gate Jul 2, 2022, 10:21 AM

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true. I do wed design in elementor, and there its a huge speed difference. I think chrome is just eating resources even if I run a m1 max mac with 32gb ram that should run circles around resource use

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 10:25 AM

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I skipped both and went for opera

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Zooom fast

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Chrome is a shitshow

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Firefox is fine, but eh

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Chromium is usable too

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Brave isn't too bad either

finite atlas Jul 2, 2022, 10:27 AM

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opera

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https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-throw-up-puke-vomit-gagging-gif-16080834

Tenor

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 10:28 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/love-gif-24777608

Tenor

late gate Jul 2, 2022, 10:30 AM

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I have not used opera since forever

finite atlas Jul 2, 2022, 10:30 AM

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great choice

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shady company with shady company practices

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 10:49 AM

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Not as shady as tiktok or Facebook

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But eh

late gate Jul 2, 2022, 10:51 AM

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lets just use netscape navigator!

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 10:51 AM

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Well, that is Firefox

late gate Jul 2, 2022, 11:17 AM

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details, details

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I just miss that nice pixelated N with the ciricle around it

umbral cliff Jul 2, 2022, 11:27 AM

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clear ferry Chromium is usable too

Isn’t opera just chromium with a fancy spying cover?

umbral cliff Jul 2, 2022, 11:27 AM

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late gate true. I do wed design in elementor, and there its a huge speed difference. I thi...

Try safari on your mac. When I had one I found it worked a lot better than anything else

late gate Jul 2, 2022, 11:28 AM

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yeah could be. Im just not too used using safari but I can try

glacial knot Jul 2, 2022, 11:40 AM

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modern opera is chromium based, yes

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not sure how much spying is in their changes

late gate Jul 2, 2022, 11:45 AM

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everything seem to be chromium-based so its not really a preference other than name anymore

umbral cliff Jul 2, 2022, 11:59 AM

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Firefox, safari, chromium are the 3 really lol

orchid rose Jul 2, 2022, 12:10 PM

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Vivaldi masterrace

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still chromium but lots of nice extras

stoic shoal Jul 2, 2022, 12:42 PM

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Would you please help me

I need Home Assistant full installation and configuration step by step guide

umbral cliff Jul 2, 2022, 12:45 PM

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stoic shoal Would you please help me I need Home Assistant full installation and configurat...

This is not a support channel, but here you go https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/

Home Assistant

Installation

Install Home Assistant

finite atlas Jul 2, 2022, 12:50 PM

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umbral cliff Firefox, safari, chromium are the 3 really lol

https://tenor.com/view/huh-heh-interesting-confused-confusion-gif-22475884

Tenor

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Firefox is based on the Gecko Engine

umbral cliff Jul 2, 2022, 12:51 PM

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finite atlas https://tenor.com/view/huh-heh-interesting-confused-confusion-gif-22475884

As in the main rendering engines. Can’t remember their proper names. But it’s the Firefox one, chromium one, and safari one

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I just don’t remember the actual engines

finite atlas Jul 2, 2022, 12:51 PM

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oooohhh

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i though you ment they use the same

umbral cliff Jul 2, 2022, 12:52 PM

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Complete opposite lmao

finite atlas Jul 2, 2022, 12:52 PM

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yeah now i get it

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 1:10 PM

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angelAfatboo

finite atlas Jul 2, 2022, 1:19 PM

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cute piggy nose

forest edge Jul 2, 2022, 3:41 PM

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clear ferry A tomato is not a tomato

I do agree what you call a tomato is not a tomato lol

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 3:50 PM

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Sorry, can't take culinary advice from a Missouri farmer

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angelAfatboo

orchid rose Jul 2, 2022, 3:51 PM

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growth hormone fed tomatoes

clever mortar Jul 2, 2022, 3:52 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/attack-of-the-killer-tomatoes-gif-12480511

Tenor

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 3:52 PM

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My fully naturally grown tomatoes from seeds are quite scrumptious

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My strawberries are coming along too

orchid rose Jul 2, 2022, 3:53 PM

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home-grown strawberries are the shit

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jelly

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 3:53 PM

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Yeah, I only have 20 or so plants

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Gonna expand

orchid rose Jul 2, 2022, 3:54 PM

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how much would that produce?

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 3:54 PM

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Blackberries, raspberries, blackcurrant, redcurrants, Apples and more

orchid rose Jul 2, 2022, 3:54 PM

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I'd be fine with just strawberries for berries

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 3:54 PM

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My 20 plants make quite a bit, currently there is 50 or so fruits on them

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And it does multiple batches

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Usually I will probably get 200+ berries with very little work

orchid rose Jul 2, 2022, 3:56 PM

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nice. My grandparents used to grow these and they were just amazing

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 4:08 PM

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Hmmm

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Come to think of it

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I only have 16 plants

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10 Corona and 6 others

finite atlas Jul 2, 2022, 4:11 PM

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orchid rose I'd be fine with just strawberries for berries

its nice to have some variation if you grow a lot
only one fruit gets stale over time and you dont enjoy it as much anymore

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 4:12 PM

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I think I have 8 different tomato types this year

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And four different chili

tidal bronze Jul 2, 2022, 4:14 PM

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clear ferry

Looking good 👍

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 4:17 PM

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ratJAM

daring jolt Jul 2, 2022, 5:01 PM

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how is explode different from 💥 lol

clever mortar Jul 2, 2022, 5:01 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/badaboom-gif-5108281

Tenor

daring jolt Jul 2, 2022, 5:02 PM

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and why do we have handgesture when we already have 🤌

clever mortar Jul 2, 2022, 5:02 PM

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Asking the deeper questions today I see

daring jolt Jul 2, 2022, 5:02 PM

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and mindblown vs 🤯

clever mortar Jul 2, 2022, 5:03 PM

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ablobmindblown

daring jolt Jul 2, 2022, 5:03 PM

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i wonder if discord used to only support an older version of unicode or smth

static schooner Jul 2, 2022, 5:04 PM

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Who could have predicted that the invention of unicode would lead to emoji? Clearly leading to the downfall of humanity

glacial knot Jul 2, 2022, 5:05 PM

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didn't emoji start in the times of codepages?

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 5:06 PM

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tom

static schooner Jul 2, 2022, 5:06 PM

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and distracting us from real problems by making an upside-down cheeseburger: https://phandroid.com/2017/11/28/android-8-1-hamburger-emoji/

glacial knot Jul 2, 2022, 5:07 PM

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neitehr of them is right

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they both contain way too much tomato

daring jolt Jul 2, 2022, 5:08 PM

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why do almost all of them make the hamburger emoji into a cheeseburger

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A burger with a beef patty, usually depicted on a sesame bun with cheese, lettuce, and tomato—making it a cheeseburger, though officially called Hamburger by Unicode.

forest edge Jul 2, 2022, 6:06 PM

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https://youtu.be/kF3_htnAR5Y

YouTube

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Doom Ray Traced [PrBoom+] - E2M4 | 4K/60

Yellow key room is damn psychedelic

If you'd like to buy me more shiny Rays
https://www.paypal.me/llrazzorll

PrBoom: Ray Traced
https://github.com/sultim-t/prboom-plus-rt/releases

▶ Play video

orchid rose Jul 2, 2022, 6:13 PM

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making a burger without a slice of cheese should be illegal

clever mortar Jul 2, 2022, 6:14 PM

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A slice? Just one measly wafer of cheese?

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 6:46 PM

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Don't even think about that thing that the Americans call cheese slices

clever mortar Jul 2, 2022, 6:47 PM

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I do like some gorgonzola on my burgers

brazen fable Jul 2, 2022, 6:48 PM

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You are a gorgonzola

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And American cheese is literally the best cheese in the world for burgers

clever mortar Jul 2, 2022, 6:48 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/cheese-wallaceandgromit-gif-4582921

Tenor

orchid rose Jul 2, 2022, 6:48 PM

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American cheese > actual cheese when it comes to burgers

clever mortar Jul 2, 2022, 6:48 PM

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It melts "better"

brazen fable Jul 2, 2022, 6:48 PM

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American cheese is actual cheese

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you're thinking of that fake Kraft shit

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 6:49 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/children-funny-challenge-cheese-say-cheese-gif-13617696

Tenor

clever mortar Jul 2, 2022, 6:49 PM

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American cheese is still processed stuff, so not actual proper cheese

brazen fable Jul 2, 2022, 6:49 PM

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All cheese is processed

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🤔

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Otherwise it wouldn't be safe to eat

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lmao

clever mortar Jul 2, 2022, 6:49 PM

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ablobthinking

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 6:49 PM

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It isn't cut from a block

clever mortar Jul 2, 2022, 6:50 PM

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You need to go to France ||and get lynched||

brazen fable Jul 2, 2022, 6:50 PM

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Imagine thinking there's a single frenchman alive that could take me

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 6:50 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/guillotine-bonk-revolution-gif-20305805

Tenor

clever mortar Jul 2, 2022, 6:50 PM

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brazen fable Imagine thinking there's a single frenchman alive that could take me

It'd be all of them...

brazen fable Jul 2, 2022, 6:50 PM

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eh I'd still win

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laughs in AR-10

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 6:51 PM

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Ah, the classic murican move

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Second amendment saves me

brazen fable Jul 2, 2022, 6:51 PM

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Ya damn right

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Peace is a lie duct taped together by men with guns

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 6:51 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/stimulus-family-guy-2nd-gif-19763504

Tenor

brazen fable Jul 2, 2022, 6:52 PM

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But no seriously, American cheese is the king for burgers

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Just the melt quality alone

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But it's a blend of cheddar and colby

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 6:54 PM

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I'll take some monteray jack , provolone or Gouda any day

orchid rose Jul 2, 2022, 6:54 PM

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You'd be wrong

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 6:54 PM

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Can't trust a Finnish person with cheese

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Are there any Finnish cheeses?

orchid rose Jul 2, 2022, 6:56 PM

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Finnish Edam is apparently hot enough to be smuggled to Russia

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(so no)

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 6:57 PM

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarlsberg_cheese

Jarlsberg cheese

Jarlsberg ( YARLZ-burg, Norwegian: [ˈjɑ̀ːlsbærɡ]) is a mild cheese made from cow's milk, with large, regular eyes, originating from Jarlsberg, Norway. It is produced in Norway, as well as in Ireland and the US state of Ohio, licensed from Norwegian dairy producers. It is classified as a Swiss-type cheese.

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Quite good on burgers too

orchid rose Jul 2, 2022, 7:00 PM

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Cheese should be like a condiment to a burger. That's where the american "cheese" is perfect

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 7:01 PM

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Ah, so bland and non intrusive, then I agree

orchid rose Jul 2, 2022, 7:01 PM

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exactly

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basically a bit of fat content with the slightest tangy component

clear ferry Jul 2, 2022, 7:02 PM

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Extra liquid fat without flavour KanyeStare

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Because its manufacturing process differs from traditional cheeses,[8] federal laws mandate that it be labeled as "process American cheese" if made from combining more than one cheese[9] or "process American cheese food" if it contains at least 51% cheese but other specific dairy ingredients such as cream, milk, skim milk, buttermilk, cheese whey, or albumin from cheese whey are added.[10] Products that have other added ingredients, such as Kraft Singles that contain milk protein concentrate, use legally unregulated terms such as "pasteurized prepared cheese product".[11

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https://tenor.com/view/yikes-alexis-alexis-rose-annie-murphy-schitts-creek-gif-20774183

Tenor

orchid rose Jul 2, 2022, 7:06 PM

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When you put it like that it sounds a bit icky. When you put in in your mouth though 🤤