Only tangentially related, but I've found that the "dark mode" in the recent Kindle software to be so much better for reading at night than just dimming the backlight or using a reading light. It's really nice
#the-water-cooler
static schooner
clear ferry
That sounds like a Kindle Oasis feature
clever mortar
Nah, it's in the Paperwhite too
static schooner
even the cheap one, I think. but I think it's in the latest software - my old Voyage didn't have it, but it was held back
last cedar
Too dark!
Only joking
prisma briar
It's converting C to F, treating that as C then converting to F again. Not sure why yet, only affects almond.
clear ferry
Have you tried roasting peanuts instead?
clear ferry
Nice thing about living 20m from the airport, I get up one hour before the flight leaves
turbid stirrup
Ewww
They're thinking about closing the airport near me (few km)
If they do, I get to deprecate an automation for the first time: automatic complaints
glacial knot
on noise level?
clear ferry
I've lived close to airports all my life, don't notice any noise
umbral cliff
Ewww
They're thinking about closing the airport near me (few km)
If they do, I g...
Why bother doing complaints when you live next to an airport. They can’t change anything. Just annoys the people who run the airports & aviation oversight in your country
forest edge
I've lived close to airports all my life, don't notice any noise
it's called going deaf or already deaf. may wanna have that checked out
vast tusk
anyone got a vendor for LED strips in the Netherlands they can recommend?
restive vapor
is it a hass theme
hearty depot
Holy, Headphones at 110%, and it does not start gentle
hushed basalt
What's the TVOC and CO2 like when atx visits
finite atlas
how do you measure outside lux?
clear ferry
I use a Xiaomi ZigBee sensor here
finite atlas
or train your daughter to steal the router to make atx angreh
late gate
@finite atlas Hue motion Outdoor. I think Hue sensors are best both inside and outside
fathom sparrow
where you going
clear ferry
Lol hue, overpriced nonsense
late gate
And you didnt visit? I live 5 min from sola
late gate
Hue is making very good sensors. Get them when they are on discount. Battery last forever, super short cooldown and accurate
Welcome to the Volvo Club
late gate
ah okay. I had two v50, one v60, one xc60 and using a v40 with the 250hp motor now. Its a fun little car with so much hp
finite atlas
a plane that can carry you o.O ?
i thought the antonov was destroyed in ukraine
late gate
Sensors in Norwegian 🤢
clear ferry
I actually agree, but it grew on me
late gate
I just have to take a migrane meds from seeing that
clear ferry
I'll stop by next time @late gate
I'm in Stavanger at least a dozen times per year
late gate
Good, good. My huskies are always hungry for new meat
late gate
One of the dogs just farted LOUD! omg what manners have I given them
late gate
yes it was a deadly one
Have you fixed a nice chart for nordpool? after the last apex update the common one fails @clear ferry
late gate
dont you check electric prices for today and tomorrow?
late gate
True. I dont have tibber as delivery, just the pulse so I use nordpool to get the price data
umbral cliff
https://tenor.com/view/miles-broker-airline-miles-frequent-flyer-miles-hotel-sky...
Heh I wanna fly on both of those first clsss suites
Too bad they don’t exist anymore (since it’s Etihad a380)
finite atlas
dont you check electric prices for today and tomorrow?
germany really does give you a hard time
whats the prices for tomorrow?
clear ferry
finite atlas
0,247 krones per kwh?
finite atlas
still cheaper then german prices
glacial knot
that's not hard 😂
cedar chasm
holy macaroni
clear ferry
And i use 30% below average @cedar chasm
finite atlas
how is one even able to use that much?
do you run 2 hairdryers all day long for the entire month?
clear ferry
Roughly 2500kwh per month
Which is 30% below the average it seems
So the average is 3000+
cedar chasm
And i use 30% below average <@552467863655415808>
What's your square meterage?
clear ferry
Our power companies are obliged to let us monitor it directly
I could make an esp device
But i just bought a finished product
Tibber pulse
simple pagoda
Can you pull the feed from the meter wirelessly?
clear ferry
What's your square meterage?
252m²
clear ferry
Can you pull the feed from the meter wirelessly?
Yes
All power meters in Norway was upgraded to smart meters in 2018
simple pagoda
I did not know that. Can you link me to where you picked up the Tibber (assuming that was the name)
clear ferry
The tibber pulse goes pulse -> tibber API -> home assistant
If you want fully local you'll use something else
If your power meter has a HAN port
If it doesn't you can't use it anyway
finite atlas
So the average is 3000+
thats the average per year in germany
cedar chasm
Mine has a HAN port but it's in the basement in my apartment building common area 😛 suckz2k
simple pagoda
yeah not sure...All I know is a few years back they installed something and now I think they can just drive by the house to get a reading
clear ferry
thats the average per year in germany
I use roughly 28-32000 kWh per year
simple pagoda
No more meter reader dudes 😛
clear ferry
We don't use gas, or oil
simple pagoda
haha..that used to be a job 😛
finite atlas
we use 5000 kWh per year and thats way above average
finite atlas
we have gas heating, roughly 12000 kWh per year as its an old house and my grandparents love to have it at like 25°c all year all rooms even when they enter them once a month
clear ferry
finite atlas
cooking and some warm water is also made with electricity
clear ferry
finite atlas
nice view
finite atlas
how much do you use garbage can queen?
finite atlas
But I'm below average as always <@300242410338910209>
where do you take the average figure?
last cedar
I wouldn't say that, you are above average in being an arse, according to everyone
clear ferry
From the app @finite atlas
last cedar
how much do you use garbage can queen?
I wouldn't that is the best way to measure. The best way would to be to say how much I don't
clear ferry
So the average of my house size (200-300m2) in my geographic area (eastern Norway)
So the average is 30% above me
Imagine the top10
clear ferry
My friends up north run bitcoin miners in their basements
Power is only nok 0.12 there
finite atlas
lucky guy
finite atlas
will you take me with you? 👉 👈 🥺
umbral cliff
I prefer the aisle, more legroom, but even then I’ll sit as far forward as I can (so the front row of whatever class I’m in)
clear ferry
I prefer by emergency exits if possible
I'm not a pretentious fuck who flies first class you see 
static schooner
I prefer the aisle, more legroom, but even then I’ll sit as far forward as I can...
The problem with that is there's no seat to shove a bag under. But I guess if you're on the aisle, you can just as easily get it out of the overhead compartment
hushed basalt
With the rest of your fellow humans
late gate
eww
hushed basalt
We'll just tell you your seat is first class
Give you a golden wrapper around your ticket
late gate
yay
finite atlas
I prefer windows
i thought you'd prefef linux
clear ferry
umbral cliff
I'm not a pretentious fuck who flies first class you see <:LeoLaugh:779233754283...
Nor do I, that’s why I said as far forward of whatever class I’m in
finite atlas
they could hang people from the ceiling to fit more people into planes
clear ferry
We only have one class in Norway tbh
umbral cliff
I wish they just got rid of first class
Business class useful for long haul international, get an actual bed instead of a chair
Domestic we have business & economy here
clear ferry
My travel system gets furious if I select forward seats
umbral cliff
Business is overpriced and only really used by politicians or business people
umbral cliff
I’ve flown domestic business because it’s all that’s available on frequent flyer points and it’s the same money cost, just more points
finite atlas
i wonder how its possible for planes to be cheaper than trains
clear ferry
The seats are so good on economy on Transatlantic i couldn't be bothered, sitting up front with the stiff upper lip people would be a downgrade for me
And I'm a huge guy
umbral cliff
The seats are so good on economy on Transatlantic i couldn't be bothered, sittin...
The seats on international economy are shit. They’re cramped and uncomfy (across many many airlines)
clear ferry
185cm and 125kgs
umbral cliff
I will do it but I dislike it
Points upgrade to business however, that’s a nice use
finite atlas
clear ferry
I have no issues fitting in on any transatlantic I've flown
umbral cliff
Im smaller in weight than you, but I get cramped easily on planes
umbral cliff
No
finite atlas
where do you live?
umbral cliff
If I was claustrophobic I wouldn’t have flown as much as I do
clear ferry
That said, I fall asleep in the MRI
finite atlas
yeah murican style airplanes are very pressed together
umbral cliff
Most recent ones have been 24hr
finite atlas
little space for anything
umbral cliff
yeah murican style airplanes are very pressed together
What?
clear ferry
I've done Delta, KLM,Norwegian and sas transatlantic, no issues on those
I should get around to Japan Airlines soon
finite atlas
What?
the seats, they are often put very close to each other in order to fit more passengers
umbral cliff
I’ve done Singapore airlines, Cathay pacific, qantas, emirates, British airways and all uncomfy
umbral cliff
the seats, they are often put very close to each other in order to fit more pass...
You mean how basically every airline does it
There’s like 3” difference in seat pitch around
Emirates is one of the largest and im still cramped
finite atlas
kinda, yeah
but its more of an issue in american style planes
umbral cliff
I don’t get what you mean by American style planes. Considering all the airlines copy each other
umbral cliff
I got cramped on the 7 hour flight to Singapore
Have been lucky with them though and gotten free upgrades to business and also to first class
Showers mid flight are a novelty that’s kinda fun
clear ferry
I saw a video from Japan Airlines first class recently
Looks nice
If there were none of the cunts there
umbral cliff
Why does it matter if there’s others. The point of first is you don’t notice anyone else
Unless you’re one of those people who talk to the people next to them
cedar chasm
Business/First is less stuffy now that the legacy airlines make most of their points-money on credit card degenerates
umbral cliff
I see you found the furries
umbral cliff
Business/First is less stuffy now that the legacy airlines make most of their po...
Credit card points are very nice thing to get
clear ferry
No, these were surely just trailer trash
cedar chasm
Absolutely
clear ferry
Probably the same people who drive bare foot
finite atlas
who would do that o.O ?
umbral cliff
who would do that o.O ?
Australians wearing thongs (flip flops), because driving in those is a hazard
cedar chasm
Credit card points are very nice thing to get
There is a discussion to be had about them but it's undeniable that their prominence has led to business lounges and premium cabins no longer being the reserve of old gentry and railway moguls of yore
umbral cliff
There is a discussion to be had about them but it's undeniable that their promin...
Im happy with them given I’ve benefited from it directly, and it’s saving me money (though for a lot of people those sorts of credit cards are not worth it - the one I have has an annual fee of $300, yet I’ve managed to get the card for no annual fee)
cedar chasm
The discussion to be had is whether these "free points" and "savings" aren't raising prices for everyone on the whole
But don't get me wrong; I have as much fun chasing tier points as the next person
umbral cliff
Honestly I doubt it, the airlines make huge money on unredeemed points
All they do is limit how easy it is to redeem
And they make money
cedar chasm
It's a field of study I'm happy to leave alone, but maybe I'll get to hear a cackling super villain explain the evil machinations at some point through a leak of some sort.
static schooner
?
velvet horizonBOT
finite atlas
?
static schooner
someone posted a cockeyed screenshot of a HACS install issue and then deleted it
finite atlas
ah
forest edge
resin dioramas are just popping up everywhere but don't see anyone interested in purchasing them
@tidal bronze just saw you guys are undergoing a "water crisis". Guess you bastards will have to learn how to drink ocean water
finite atlas
just go into a store and buy a bottle, duh
forest edge
Desalination FTW
that only provides a small percentage of the water you all use. you would need like 6x the many plants to even think of calling it a primary source lol
static schooner
forest edge
ok for one county lol
static schooner
The one I live in, so...
umbral cliff
Sonoma just hates change
static schooner
All politics is local
forest edge
Sonoma just hates change
what is the "change" in this regard you speak of?
umbral cliff
what is the "change" in this regard you speak of?
Using seawater to drink
forest edge
Using seawater to drink
never implied anything remotely sounding like I was against such practice. but I did state fact that the systems in place do not supply enough water to sustain the population
calmelb just hates facts
umbral cliff
1/3 the amount of water often is enough to sustain what is needed, even for a year where rain water is too low (and so the dams fall)
Or build more and supply all
forest edge
so there is sooo much more to to the story to that whole thing. that statement made on the site was using the size of that county as a reference
the roughly 400k etc
reality is, not only are those numbers likely not accurate but the way water is distributed especially in a crisis isn't generally kept localized
umbral cliff
The desal plant in Melbourne, australia can supply 1/3 of the water needed there (which is over a million) and in drought will help slow the reduction in dams too
Also that during drought water restrictions can be brought in too
forest edge
not saying it's impossible to use desal as a primary source.. simply stated there isn't enough plants nor is there enough demand for them to build enough plants for that to happen
in some parts of the worlds it's all they got.. and that is fine
but we're talking about california.. not melbourn
umbral cliff
Melbourne and cali are quite similar for climate
umbral cliff
Yeah this conversation is pointless then
forest edge
exactly.. stay on topic lol
umbral cliff
You’re being stupid
forest edge
not being stupid.. you are trying to compare a pop of around 5 mil to one of about 40 mil
and it don't work like that
also I just read that desalination plants don't run off renewable energy and require more that traditional.. so while you are enjoying the fresh water your air is getting dirtier as well global temps rise lmao
in yo face
umbral cliff
also I just read that desalination plants don't run off renewable energy and req...
Except desal plants just use electricity, they can run off renewable energy. Here they just run off the grid, so the more renewable the grid the more renewable energy used by the plants
forest edge
not according to what I am reading
in fact the desal plants in cali with all it's glorious wind turbines still use like 70% fossil fuel to remain powered
but again, desal process uses even more electricity than tradtional methods so it's not just a clear cut number
umbral cliff
not according to what I am reading
So how do these magical desal plants in the USA get powered then? Through their own power plant? Or do they just take power from the grid
forest edge
when they refer to fossil fuel they are generally referencing the grid
umbral cliff
So bring the grid to mostly renewable, thus the power used by it will be mostly renewable
umbral cliff
You don’t believe there will be a mostly renewable grid within the next 20 years?
umbral cliff
What percentage do you think we can get to then
forest edge
well i mean it's diffrent for every part of the world
so will some countries get there? sure.. probably
will others.. likely never
umbral cliff
I disagree tbh
forest edge
its good to have hope i suppose
umbral cliff
Think all countries will have 50% at least renewables
forest edge
but right now the data dosen't look so good lol
umbral cliff
but right now the data dosen't look so good lol
Data is saying countries are investing heavily in renewables
forest edge
not for the purpose of clearing the skies
umbral cliff
Already usa (and australia too) is at 20%
umbral cliff
not for the purpose of clearing the skies
Point is to reduce what we’re putting out. Cutting to be net 0 out is doable
umbral cliff
It’s more power than coal
forest edge
saying "2nd" sounds bigger than what really is
look where coal was
that's the goal right
not where it is due to foced actions
look where it was
forest edge
i dunno why you keep thinking solar panels and wind turbines are capable of producing as much power as you do.. they simply just do not and in order for them to even get there they would have to consume so much more land or the tech would have to take a much bigger leap
and that tech won't be "cheap"
nor is that land avialable
umbral cliff
Renewables aren’t just solar & wind though
forest edge
wave plants etc are a norwat thing
umbral cliff
And operating costs of renewables are a lot cheaper than coal or gas
forest edge
for powering small villages and mud huts
umbral cliff
wave plants etc are a norwat thing
Hydro is a thing
umbral cliff
Doesn’t mean it’s not a renewable source of power
But yes it does have problems
And we have problems with base load power which solar/ wind can’t do
And batteries aren’t good enough
forest edge
like i said.. maybe your grandkids might see something
i wouldn't hold my breathe tho lol
umbral cliff
Honestly I can see developed countries having 70%+ renewables in the next 20-30 years
forest edge
if that happens you are going to have much bigger problems afterwords
between wind turbines slicing up the birds, desal plants heating up the planet and norwegian wave generators causing the aurora lights everything has it's price and to get to something like what your thinking in that short amount of time i'm sure will have some major impact elsewhere lol
just like how electric cars now seem so cool but in 20-30 years will likely cause some major non recyclable headaches lol
umbral cliff
Desal plants are designed as supplemental to water, in areas where drought exists. They’re a requirement not an optional item
umbral cliff
just like how electric cars now seem so cool but in 20-30 years will likely caus...
Not really. Lithium batteries can be recycled to near 100% there just isn’t a market for it right now
forest edge
and you hit the nail on the head
umbral cliff
And when electric cars are needing to be recycled, the market will be there
It’s already taking off
forest edge
"not a market for it" the driving force of everything and the very thing that will keep you from seeing your dream just like how flying cars was kept from mine
umbral cliff
No flying cars is regulation too
People are idiots on the road, they shouldn’t be allowed to fly too
forest edge
you obviously never seen the jetsons
umbral cliff
I have. I enjoyed watching it
forest edge
then you would know they would be most automated
umbral cliff
And we can see regulation hasn’t really allowed for automated air travel either
Because the regulators can’t trust it
forest edge
i fully disagree
current aircraft already use auto pilot
infact I read planes can even take off and land themselves.. just they are not allowed to do so
umbral cliff
Still require 2 pilots who can fly if needed, and still usually manually land (depending on airline) and take off themselves
forest edge
but they do most of the flying as is
umbral cliff
They are allowed to land themselves. Just airlines want the pilots to be trained
forest edge
how is that any diffrent than an "idiot" in a automated flying car?
umbral cliff
Because the pilots are heavily trained (commercial airlines require pilots to have many hundreds of hours) whilst someone can get a licence with 100 hours or less
There are idiots in the air, they’re just usually heavily controlled
umbral cliff
Yes and how many hours of driving do you need to get a drivers licence. Is there a mandated minimum?
umbral cliff
Whilst a commercial aviation licence requires 250
And for commercial air travel licence it’s 2000
forest edge
but if cars were flying i am pretty sure the tests would change to accomidate lol
umbral cliff
Still cannot see the regulators ever wanting to allow it
Aviation gets heavily regulated for a reason
And the only reason autoland exists is because of bad weather
forest edge
i agree lol, but like i said.. not much of a diffrence lol
hushed basalt
Coal and gas are definitely commercially unviable atm
Have been for a long time
They're just heavily subsidised and externalised costs
umbral cliff
Coal and gas are definitely commercially unviable atm
They’re viable because they’re built and companies look short term costs (so gas consistently is cheaper than huge upfront)
finite atlas
Not really. Lithium batteries can be recycled to near 100% there just isn’t a ma...
they publish nice numbers all the time, but we lack plants to process them and the couple % that are missing, are often those materials we'd really want to have recycled like lithium and cobalt
green inlet
Aviation gets heavily regulated for a reason
Drones became a thing here within the last 10 years. Idiots with FPV were flying into controlled airspace. Wasn’t long before drones were regulated to the point of if you want to fly one commercially, you needed a license. That license included a test that from what I am told pretty much covered 75% of the material needed to get your full scale ground school license.
The airspace industry here seems to have a great deal of influence because on some level, flying a 1500.00 toy commercially became regulated almost to the same degree as a full scale aircraft.
umbral cliff
they publish nice numbers all the time, but we lack plants to process them and t...
Lithium is one of the ones that can be recycled quite well
umbral cliff
The airspace industry here seems to have a great deal of influence because on so...
It’s because the drones were flying in actual airspace and became a hazard, combined with companies wanting drones for everything there was a privacy & safety factor. The content covered is similar to actual aircraft as it concerns airspace and other related things, all important for drones to also know
green inlet
Yes, 😉, I was agreeing with you. Should cars ever fly, I am sure their operators will be required to obtain the exact same license a privet pilot does.
umbral cliff
And that online exam will have the same sort of content
What is airspace and where you can/cant fly
green inlet
Right, same here but it is not an easy test
umbral cliff
its pretty universal now, although not ICAO so not transferable between countries
I think I can get a drone licence pretty easy as I have an actual pilots licence
clear ferry
it's a quite easy test here according to a collegue
umbral cliff
It’s just a minor test rather than full on theory
green inlet
Well yes, but you have already frontloaded the knowledge
clear ferry
you pay $20 per year for a license, again, only if your drone is over 250g
umbral cliff
Ouch an annual fee
clear ferry
that yearly fee included access to all training and exams
green inlet
I would have to go back to the books to figure out when you need a license. It has a weight limit and also a clause that it is not for hobby.
There was a cost to sit for the exam but no annual cost
umbral cliff
Looks like here theres a practical component for it as well as theory. Needed for any drone over 2kg unless it is over your own land (eg farmer) then its under 25kg or if its for a business who holds a drone operators cert
Aviation normally doesn’t have annual fees for licences, just regular re-testing
It’s funny, my licence hasn’t expired (as they don’t expire ever) but I can’t use it as I need a flight review every 2 years and its been over 2 years now
finite atlas
my father once gave me the controls to his drone years ago
i pressed the accelerator slightly and it vanished for roughly 30 seconds until it spontaniously disassembled itself on the floor, never going to touch those again
green inlet
Initially, you had to retake the same test here every year as a drone operator. They later relaxed the standard for retakes. Instead of going to a certified testing facility, you just go online and take the test. You have to score 100% on the retake but you can take it an unlimited amount of times. Basically, if after the first attempt, you miss 2 questions, it just regenerates 2 more questions you have to answer. It continues until you have basically successfully answered the number of questions on the exam…can’t remember if 30 or 50
last cedar
Have been for a long time
Old habbits die hard!
glacial knot
@finite atlas I hate that you posted what I just wanted to post. So I'll still post it
agile jewel
Someone please explain. Why are people so shortsighted and hate on php?
glacial knot
Someone please explain. Why are people so shortsighted and hate on php?
Hm? Maybe because we had to use it at some point 😄
agile jewel
Since then, stuff has actually evolved
And so did PHP
agile jewel
Hm? Maybe because we had to use it at some point 😄
I mean i hated it at start because I didn't want to use it but it just grew to my heart
glacial knot
There’s some Nordic city I’m thinking of
agile jewel
What? XD
glacial knot
Stockholm
finite atlas
Someone please explain. Why are people so shortsighted and hate on php?
likely because its horrible
agile jewel
likely because its horrible
Why is it horrible?
Most likely because you're a sheep just repeating someone else.
I bet you didn't even know you can send UDP packets using vanilla PHP. Mind blown
clever mortar
Most likely because you're a sheep just repeating someone else.
Rather than being rude, read the https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/
finite atlas
Why is it horrible?
its a pretty sluggish programming language
agile jewel
Again. That's subjective. What exactly is bad about it?
It can fit any programming style. You can write as with any object oriented, or you can use the OG procedural syntax
finite atlas
if you like it, why bother that others dont?
agile jewel
You could rewrite a Minecraft server in PHP and it would work
Like it's really a powerful language and everyone underestimates it
clear ferry
PHP developers will be sought after in 30 years
When all the terrible applications are failing
Just like the turbo pascal and COBOL people today
clear ferry
agile jewel
Also in my country companies pay more to PHP devs than python
finite atlas
if you like php, feel free to keep using it
clear ferry
Nobody should be learning PHP today tbh
agile jewel
I started 2012
agile jewel
While there was no Python3
Also not declining
78% usage for backend
ASP.net is garbage and node is just JavaScript. Which is garbage
umbral cliff
if you like php, feel free to keep using it
This, and if it makes you money then even better
Everyone will have a view over what language is the best or why you should/ shouldn’t use something
finite atlas
exactly
glacial knot
typescript >> PHP
late gate
I got a real good deal in Inston switches!!!!
finite atlas
why
young sigil
People-burning smoke. Mmmm bacon.
umbral cliff
Atx you wouldn’t know how cooked meat smells, you eat it raw
late gate
atx is so fat he got smaller people in orbit around him
late gate
Ofc its an Al Bundy classic
clear ferry
late gate
That TV show would not survive today lol
clear ferry
I love it
finite atlas
then make your kids watch those shows when you got some
low harness
I learned programming in PHP too. Around -04 or so. I think I've touched it exactly once since learning python in 2010.
late gate
I want cake
finite atlas
glacial knot
I recently installed lychee, that uses PHP
I got myself a docker container, so I don't have to touch anything with that configuration and just have an NGINX that exposes port 80
hushed basalt
You just touch your PP
finite atlas
likely a combo of both
hushed basalt
Mm it's Karen to not want to breath stuff that's worse than cigarettes
static schooner
I thought they only had Sheilas
finite atlas
if all they burn is untreated wood or coal, its not really worse
clear ferry
I live in a country where every household burns wood in winter 
finite atlas
off that people have inhaled that for thousands of years without major effects when its just here and there
while with cigarettes you inhale more stuff and worse particles
finite atlas
smelling fire and inhaling a cigarette are two different things
glacial knot
you'd have to compare wood burning with 2nd hand smoking though
finite atlas
you'd have to compare wood burning plenty of meters away with active smoking
glacial knot
why would you? Nobody in their right mind smokes either way 😉
finite atlas
because thats the comparison
wood burning somewhere vs active smoking
clear ferry
I can't believe I used to smoke 40 a day
low harness
Eidle eidle eee
Eidle eidle eee
We simply can't leave 'til we burn some more wood.
'
The writing in games was different back in the day...
low harness
The text or the picture? Because I took some artistic liberties with one of them.
low harness
low harness
The Swedish translation of that song is brilliant too. Even better than the original even. Edit: It stays
That's another thing. When did you last see a game translated to more than like four languages?
finite atlas
I can't believe I used to smoke 40 a day
great you stopped old man
i'll give you some belly rubs for stopping
clear ferry
1atx2cups
tidal bronze
<@331255319365812224> just saw you guys are undergoing a "water crisis". Guess y...
I just wish people stop paying 3x the price for property and trying to move down here. BTW I am fine with coconut water. 🥥 😆
bright gyro
Anyone see that Wyze released a new door lock. Bluetooth only. Wyze Bolt
finite atlas
What a bolt move of them
cunning onyx
It's a good time to walk up random houses and yell real loudly "ALEXA OPEN THE FRONT DOOR!"
low harness
forest edge
I just wish people stop paying 3x the price for property and trying to move down...
you know that is a natural laxative? Tom Hanks told us so! https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BowedLittleGoral-size_restricted.gif
tidal bronze
@forest edge very disturbing 🤔
forest edge
<@104768700069990400> very disturbing 🤔
then stop drinking it you goober lol
shadow prawn
clear ferry
finite atlas
fucking legends
finite atlas
bring me some groceries aswell please!
clear ferry
last cedar
I just wish people stop paying 3x the price for property and trying to move down...
Were you aware that the coconut is not a nut?
last cedar
Only the essentials
forest edge
Were you aware that the coconut is not a nut?
if you are what you eat and you are a nut, wouldn't that make the coconut a nut as well? 🤔
cedar chasm
shadow prawn
Not in No-Nut-November
New lamps in my living room
2,1W standby power, cause of 6 hue bulbs, not amused
finite atlas
5,50€ per year standby cost, neato!
shadow prawn
Drinking decoffeinated coffee, so not possible
umbral cliff
Drinking decoffeinated coffee, so not possible
Decoffeinated coffee sounds like hot water 
(I know you were meaning decaffeinated 😛 )
finite atlas
sounds like bitter cacao
agile jewel
2,1W standby power, cause of 6 hue bulbs, not amused
I wonder how much are smart sockets drawing
clever mortar
Zigbee and Z-Wave ones apparently consume 0.25 to 0.5 W on average
WiFi ones draw a lot more - in the 1W to 2W range
clear ferry
Tremendous amounts
I'm betting my smart bulbs and sockets account for at least 0.5% of my house draw
But that is across 200+ devices
young sigil
Yeah but your house draws gigawatts due to all the server gear
clear ferry
Yet I'm still 30% below the average for my household
finite atlas
the others just dry their hair all day
last cedar
last cedar
if you are what you eat and you are a nut, wouldn't that make the coconut a nut ...
Only if the coconut ate you
shadow prawn
The tuya ones use 0.2W so far i measured them
So pretty good
If smart sockets are on, they draw a bit more, like 0.6W
shadow prawn
Decoffeinated coffee sounds like hot water <:lul:934451842010742784>
(I know you...
Yes
The lavazza one, whole beans, they‘re taste very good
Decaffeinated by supercritical CO2
shadow prawn
low harness
Why is the option to place a shortcut on the desktop when you install something on windows still marked by default?
clear ferry
Because the majority of windows users are as smart as insert your country's idiot party voters here
glacial knot
which of the lot?
clear ferry
Dealers choice
static schooner
The whole "desktop" metaphor has never really worked for me. Once you're actually running apps with windows that cover it up and you're using a filesystem with directories/folders, even nifty keystrokes to get back to the desktop are rarely the fastest or most intuitive way to access things
clear ferry
It made sense 20-25 years ago
These days I have 25 windows covering each monitor, and 467 tabs on two of them at least
static schooner
it's as thought I have all my important stuff on my real desk, then I cover it with 18 layers of papers and other clutter, then still hope to have ready access to that stuff. It just doesn't make sense to me
finite atlas
but i like to have my files on the desktop, where i can easily overview and see them
static schooner
I just have way, way, way too many files to make that a viable option
and in meaningful directory structures
finite atlas
hence why i have folders
i use my windows desktop pretty much as the linux /home/oberfail directory
static schooner
if I need to find something, I just bring up the Finder window from the dock, or launch things with command-space
finite atlas
sometimes i do that aswell
static schooner
I also use the column view almost exclusively because it's a quick an intuitive way for me to navigate folder structures, vs. the click & open, click & open, click & open, etc.
I've seen lots of attempts to optimize the desktop view and they've all fallen flat for me
finite atlas
same
i'm used to my way of using the existing tools
i'm old and dont need any change
static schooner
Apple's "stacks" were the silliest - let's take an icon of everything in a directory and pile them on top of each other
- Profit
agile jewel
WiFi ones draw a lot more - in the 1W to 2W range
Ooof. That's quite a lot considering my raspberry pi eats up 3W
agile jewel
The tuya ones use 0.2W so far i measured them
I got some cheapo Gosung WiFi plugs
clear ferry
Ew pi
agile jewel
Ew your underutilized server drawing 200W idle
clear ferry
Underutilized you say, i have a load average of 9-15 on 12 physical cores
My 128G of memory is usually 85-90% full due to l1arc
But that is just my production server
The lab environment easily pulls 240GB ram, which is why I'm upgrading to 768
agile jewel
Well i use 2/8GB of my ram on my Pi and CPU stays under 1% utilization even transcoding 2 live web camera feeds
So what's ew about my pi when i have shit ton of headroom?
clear ferry
Its a great kids toy
Don't get me wrong
But I wouldn't run anything I cared about on it
agile jewel
That's your preference
Not everyone has production grade servers
Even 200$ for the pi, case etc was a lot for me
agile jewel
Then it has usable storage and power subsystems
Mind explaining that into more detail?
Like the soc has some advanced power functions?
clear ferry
The usbc based power connector is better, the overall converters are better, and the ethernet isn't connected to the usb controller so that any attempt of using proper storage on the 4 is viable
clear ferry
I paid $150 with transatlantic shipping for my r510 with 1x6 core and 32GB ram 3 years ago
agile jewel
Yeah. I was holding back to buying pi 3B because the Ethernet to USB transfers were shit
But pi4B can do full 1Gbit from Ethernet to usb3 drive
agile jewel
I don't have faster home network than 1Gbit so no need for faster Ethernet adapters or anything
agile jewel
I paid $150 with transatlantic shipping for my r510 with 1x6 core and 32GB ram 3...
Why is it so cheap?
clear ferry
I've had 40G for 5 years, but I seldom use it, 10 suffices
Because it is a 10 year old machine at the time
agile jewel
I daily drive a computer running i7-3770
Upgraded recently from i5-3550P cuz it couldn't handle new stuff like shadow of the tomb raider, LIS true colors and flight simulator
clear ferry
My previous daily was a i7-6 something, now it's an i7-12 something
agile jewel
I mean that Pi scores more in sysbench then my desktop CPU
My PC does like 600-700 but the pi does 1200
And my VPS does 2500
Single core
clear ferry
Lol
agile jewel
I run quite a lot of stuff on the Pi. Alongside HA i also run ASF, PiHole, SMB, Apache, Transmission and JDownloader
Maybe even more stuff. Oh yeah. Also Cloudflared tunnel
And i use the pi to compile my arm based binaries
I couldn't get my stuff to compile on Ubuntu on my VPS so i did it on my pi in debian and copied over the binaries
agile jewel
Try sysbench
If you don't run Linux u gotta install wsl
Then sudo apt-get install sysbench
clear ferry
Ew wsl
clear ferry
Yes, i have on and off for the last 25 years
agile jewel
Grub?
clear ferry
That has been the main bootloader for the last two decades yes
I miss lilo
And elilo
low harness
Apple's "stacks" were the silliest - let's take an icon of everything in a direc...
The stacks were kind of cool because you could put a file with a box icon first, and it would look like all your files were in that box.
static schooner
stack-hacking
clear ferry
Wtf
late gate
Why have nobody given me cake? Im still waiting and now im grumpy
finite atlas
My PC does like 600-700 but the pi does 1200
make sure the pi isnt running geekbench 4 lmfao
those scores are not comperable to geekbench 5
agile jewel
Why have nobody given me cake? Im still waiting and now im grumpy
Why would anyone give you a cake?
agile jewel
make sure the pi isnt running geekbench 4 lmfao
those scores are not comperable ...
Idk if Geekbench even runs on arm. I just use sysbench. It calculates prime numbers for 10 seconds
late gate
Because im me, @agile jewel
finite atlas
Idk if Geekbench even runs on arm. I just use sysbench. It calculates prime numb...
default i7 3770 https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/14570952
agile jewel
Interesting
Weird that sysbench gave my pi double the score
How much overhead is wsl?
finite atlas
something
agile jewel
Cuz pi is running native Linux while my PC runs Linux on wsl
Pi runs debian PC runs ubuntu
finite atlas
so the worst possible combination for your pc
running windows, emulating a bloated distro
agile jewel
I guess the benchmarks are stressing out different parts of the cpu as they probably each use different instructions
To stress it out
Cuz sysbench only really counts prime numbers
finite atlas
scroll a bit down, geekbench does not only count prime numbers
it does a big variety of tests
agile jewel
It's possible my pi has slowed cpu but it's better at counting prime numbers than my desktop PC. Idk
finite atlas
to have a somewhat accurate comperable number
fallow karma
Discord motion notify still works fine
agile jewel
to have a somewhat accurate comperable number
Yeah but that number still doesn't represent real life. It's best to test performance on what you're actually doing with it. Need it for AI detection? Look at that metric. It's good Geekbench shows a breakdown instead of just a single number
fallow karma
get a boring company flame thrower, a relay and an esp32
And servo with stepstick to rotate it
finite atlas
Yeah but if you need AES-XTS, the pi can just go back to where it came from
fallow karma
It leads us to build real-life automatic turrets
agile jewel
1000 vs 44 lol
I don't really do encryption
No reason to encrypt any traffic on local network
finite atlas
if a pi suits you well and you use one, then its great for you
however, it does have its shortcomings and its not for everyone
agile jewel
Also i don't have patience to install certificates on all devices cuz self signed certificates
Only encryption my pi does is encrypting packets sent to Cloudflare edge server
Actually it's 3 servers
And maybe smb is somehow encrypted too. So that as well
finite atlas
i'll try to flip my way to a used R9 3950X system for my homeserver
agile jewel
So far it didn't let me down and has been sufficient for everything
agile jewel
i'll try to flip my way to a used R9 3950X system for my homeserver
GL with that. Gonna be expensive
Usually you don't need much power for your home server anyways
Unless you have crazy projects
Better to use that cpu for your desktop and use your old cpu as a home server
finite atlas
GL with that. Gonna be expensive
hence the flipping
agile jewel
What are you daily driving ATM?
finite atlas
R5 3600, 1070
agile jewel
5950x?
low harness
Reddit: ”Why is the achievement for crafting a cake called ’The Lie?’”
Anyone else feel old?
agile jewel
Why would you use 3950x for a server when you can pop that into your PC and use your 3600 as a server?
finite atlas
A friend gave me his old Pc for free, so i'm gonna try to flip it for profit, buy used parts again, assemble them and flip it for profit again.
agile jewel
Reddit: ”Why is the achievement for crafting a cake called ’The Lie?’”
Anyone e...
Yes sir
I could say he's a zombine. Get it?
finite atlas
Why would you use 3950x for a server when you can pop that into your PC and use ...
Cause a 3600 is all i need, might even downgrade
agile jewel
Cause a 3600 is all i need, might even downgrade
What will your server do?
finite atlas
idling
agile jewel
Lol
finite atlas
aaaaall day long
finite atlas
no
It will Proxmox with Opnsense, HA, various game servers and some messing around in VM's
And the pi defenitly cant host game servers
even minecraft runs pretty sluggish on it
brisk glen
I run a couple of pi4s in a kubernetes cluster, with replicated storage, certificate management etc at home
Everything loads fast
Minecraft and other game servers are a completely different story
But it’s not for a game server
It hosts my manga reader, wireguard, code server, home assistant, etc
Of course I’m not using SD cards but drives
finite atlas
yeah, that there is no native sata / nvme support makes the pi platform even worse
brisk glen
Works fine for home stuff
USB 3 is fast enough for my needs, even with longhorn replicating the volumes across the nodes etc
finite atlas
usb 3 is a janky solution tho
brisk glen
0 issues here
And they are Poe+ powered
Next step is to set up a 3 node PXE server and ansible to auto provision nodes
finite atlas
if it works great for you, thats awesome, it just not something for me
brisk glen
I would like something more powerful but I don’t have 4k to dump into that project
finite atlas
if power usage is not a big concern, older dell optiplexes are pretty cheap
brisk glen
Power is sadly
finite atlas
or take a look at project tiny mini micro
brisk glen
My cluster is only using about 40W of power
finite atlas
i'm planning on spending 0 money on my setup
flipping pc's for money till i have enough for it
and using a friends one he gave me for free as a starting point
brisk glen
All of my money is going into other projects l, like a 24 port switch and 16 network drops at home
24port Poe that is
finite atlas
going d-lan would probably be cheaper
brisk glen
8 drops are gone just on the house corners
2 more on the front and back
1 for the doorbell…. That leaves 1 for each room….
Shit… I need a bigger switch
finite atlas
xD
brisk glen
I was looking at the UDM for my router but… I need BGP
brisk glen
What do you use @clear ferry? Open sense?
clear ferry
Opnsense yes
It supports bgp at least
Peering to my NSX-T lab
And a few more networks
agile jewel
even minecraft runs pretty sluggish on it
Papermc runs fine
clear ferry
🤢
agile jewel
I host my server on Ampere A1
Even if i wanted to my internet is garbage so i couldn't host any game servers anyways
Anyone here knows how to install win11 on oracle VM?
Cuz i can't view the installation screen if i mount an installation iso. And there aren't any "preinstalled" images just like with pi iirc
clear ferry
Why on earth would you want to do that
finite atlas
Anyone here knows how to install win11 on oracle VM?
install linux and a VM manager lmfao
agile jewel
Cuz i didn't manage to emulate x86 on Linux
While win11 natively emulates x86 apps on arm
Steamcmd to be precise
clear ferry
agile jewel
If you want to run steamcmd and windows only game servers on Linux gl
You need x86 to arm emulation as well as some compatibility layer like wine
Easier to just install windows and have that emulate x86 on arm
clear ferry
I haven't had steam on my machine since 2012, and i haven't bothered with game servers since 2004, so not a problem 
And the only arm i deal with is moonshot thankfully
finite atlas
If you want to run steamcmd and windows only game servers on Linux gl
proxmox ftw
hence why i go with an overkill cpu to begin with, plenty of performance to throw around
clear ferry
Don't bring something twice as powerful as a pi into this!
But I'm a purist, Debian with kvm if you just need vms
If you want to learn a usable hypervisor, esxi
tidal bronze
Were you aware that the coconut is not a nut?
clear ferry
static schooner
https://tenor.com/view/shocked-i-know-this-unix-system-gif-14433570
Speaking of useless desktops, a 3D one would be the most useless
wintry hazel
Back on OS’s, does anyone know of or use an x86 based firewall that might also have docker or someone who’s built HA into?
Sophos installer is being strange booting on my new hardware but things like pfSense are working no worries, so I’m just comparing and contrasting all the options and it would be kinda interesting to also cut the pi4 out of the mix as well as the router if we’re addressing underpowered hardware
finite atlas
Speaking of useless desktops, a 3D one would be the most useless
no gnome is wonderfull for managing servers
finite atlas
Back on OS’s, does anyone know of or use an x86 based firewall that might also h...
Proxmox and install opnsense into it
wintry hazel
If I go the route of doing it over virtual machines, I guess I could keep Sophos since they have a build for that… I was a bit unsure about going that route because all the VM host machines I’d ever worked with were a bit more sizeable than a little cased N5095 with 8GB memory and two 2.5Gb Ethernet
forest edge
ugh digi's latest video tries to compare an rpi with sdcard to pc for HA
finite atlas
If I go the route of doing it over virtual machines, I guess I could keep Sophos...
dosnt sophos cost money?
umbral cliff
Why is the option to place a shortcut on the desktop when you install something ...
Late reply, but isn’t that up to the installer/ the dev who made the installer? So many programs I’ve installed and the tick box isn’t preselected
umbral cliff
Also i don't have patience to install certificates on all devices cuz self signe...
You don’t have to. If you own a domain you can set it up to get signed certs for your internal domains & ips
brisk glen
You can get a free .tk
Use a provider where you can do dns validation so you never have to open up ports
wintry hazel
dosnt sophos cost money?
Not for home users. Commercial does, and buying an appliance for it would.
Their PC antivirus does too I guess. Just not XG firewall if you have an Intel based machine with multiple network interfaces
forest edge
i just realized a good chunck of the youtube videos I watched were done using ai voice
i feel ripped off
agile jewel
You don’t have to. If you own a domain you can set it up to get signed certs for...
When your internet goes down you can't access your local network. Moreover I don't have a public static IP so i can't access my internal network from outside. you can't sign certificates for domains that point to local IPs
glacial knot
wrong
I can fully isolate and still use my local network without issues. And it has "proper" let's encrypt certs on my domain
just do the dns01 challenge and get a wildcard for a subdomain. No need to route from the outside
forest edge
local https.. pssh
umbral cliff
When your internet goes down you can't access your local network. Moreover I don...
I can. My local network is served by local DNS, which has internal static IPs with issued certs utilising DNS challenges. It’s not hard. All you need is a domain name
agile jewel
Well i couldn't find an authority that would sign me certificates for local IPs
Moreover
HTTPS on LAN is stupid unless your neighbors know your prehared key
glacial knot
you don't sign for IPs, you sign for your domain
you just have to provide the proof of ownership in a valid way
I mainly have it because I move my laptop out of my network eveyr now and then and don't want it to connect to random bullshit
also, #homelab
agile jewel
Yeah and they usually verify your ownership by accessing the server. And the issuer can't access your server when it's a local IP
I always got an error that they can't issue me a certificate because the domain points to a local IP
I gave up years ago on this
It has no benefits
And even if you travel, stuff like ftp and smb do not send passwords before the connection is initialized. Odds of you connecting to a network that has a server on that exact same local IP and have those services running on the same ports are very slim
So your PC might be like "hey is there an ftp server on 192.168.0.105?" And gets no response. So it won't even send your credentials
glacial knot
Yeah and they usually verify your ownership by accessing the server. And the iss...
wrong, and wrong
I have both a DNS-challenge cert for my internal subdomain and I got one via http challenge for the public facing (dynamic ip) host
agile jewel
glacial knot
yea, ftp running on port21 is unlikely 😂
agile jewel
This one is an example that won't work if you use local IP
glacial knot
you won't get certs for IPs either way. You get them on hostnames
agile jewel
yea, ftp running on port21 is unlikely 😂
You can change the port. But even if you don't, odds of the IP being the same are slim
Even on a local network
agile jewel
you won't get certs for IPs either way. You get them on hostnames
Duh
Just saying the site won't give you a cert if you input a domain that points to a local IP
What's so hard to understand?
glacial knot
yea, no. Half the world is on 192.168.178/24 or 192.168.2/24 with the range starting at 100. Easy to try out a couple for confusion
I'm trying to understand why I should accept you telling me something I have done (and am doing) is impossible 😂
agile jewel
So you go to a cafeteria. Odds of them having an ftp server accessible from the guest network are close to 0. They probably don't even have an ftp server on their private network
It's more likely for a mall. But again. Most likely not on the same subnet as the guest network
IF someone actually did host an ftp server on their guest network, then the odds of the IP being the same is 1 in 254
glacial knot
So you go to a cafeteria. Odds of them having an ftp server accessible from the ...
are you familiar with the difference of safety and security?
agile jewel
Alright. So what's insecure about your PC having odds 1 in let's say 500 000 leaking your credentials to your FTP server accessible only from LOCAL NETWORK
Even if someone steals your credentials they don't know where you live rofl
Doubt they would follow you home and hack your wifi
glacial knot
who's talking about FTP?
that's only you
I have some automation with my mqtt server, generally connect to the HA instance, grafana boards and other stuff almost always open
I.e. I load code from those servers (js). Which I don't want attackers to get such easy access to
and it's bloody easy to just sniff what your system tries to connect to under Dolev-Yao. As said, get familiar with safety vs. security
agile jewel
In that case i would just access it from an external url. And set up a loopback on my router so that the request doesn't leave the local network
1 URL to access it from both outside and inside
agile jewel
and it's bloody easy to just sniff what your system tries to connect to under Do...
In that case you should lecture google and Cloudflare. Cuz your browser showing a green padlock and text "this website is SECURE" while ssl connection is only established between your browser and Cloudflare while the destination server communicating with Cloudflare runs plain text http... That doesn't sound SECURE at all
I know google has no way to tell if CF communicates with the destination server over SSL... But this is what happens when you force the whole web to use SSL. Insecure solutions like this
Perhaps CF should add an http header acknowledging the destination server doesn't utilize ssl
glacial knot
In that case you should lecture google and Cloudflare. Cuz your browser showing ...
And depending on your use case isn’t
They are aware
agile jewel
But the only one who knows is you. Your clients can't tell
They are told it's secure to input their CC info onto your site
That's why I use Cloudflare argo instead. That makes an encrypted tunnel instead of sending unecrypted http requests
glacial knot
Also, i don’t use chrome nor chromium, so idgaf about how they behave
glacial knot
Well all browsers behave the same in the end
Wrong again
agile jewel
There are like 3 rendering engines lol. It's either WebKit, Gecko or whatever the third thing is
Only difference is browser A is faster and well optimized, browser B bundles spyware, browser C enables AdBlocking without consent and sites yell at you for using AdBlocker. In the end it's all the same
Used chromium since like 2008 on my Ubuntu system
forest edge
I have some automation with my mqtt server, generally connect to the HA instance...
you pipe mqtt over the net?
last cedar
Mosquittos can fly, didn't you know?
forest edge
Mosquittos can fly, didn't you know?
not when your around.. racoons are often infested with them.. they party with the fleas
shadow prawn
forest edge
and now we know what @tidal bronze looks like every single day. https://youtu.be/U4kDtsKevk8
umbral cliff
HTTPS on LAN is stupid unless your neighbors know your prehared key
Or that it’s so easy to do it’s one of those “eh why not” approaches rather than can’t be bothered.
Look at traefik. It can run in a docker container, and is a proxy that does https
agile jewel
I don't like docker approach. I just make a new Unix user
And run services like that
I dislike all kinds of frameworks and sandboxes. It's a hassle to set up permissions and stuff, then wonder why your docker doesn't have access to gpio. And the performance takes a hit too. I don't like wasting Performance
umbral cliff
I dislike all kinds of frameworks and sandboxes. It's a hassle to set up permiss...
Permissions? All you need is the docket container to have r/w access to the folder you pass it. Just have to pass it GPIO access. Really not that bad, docker compose makes it very easy.
And if you’re running on a Pi barely using it, then docker isn’t going to be much overhead at all, even for plex there’s no noticeable loss in performance
last cedar
not when your around.. racoons are often infested with them.. they party with th...
I have never partied with a flea
But I have partied with flea
forest edge
Or that it’s so easy to do it’s one of those “eh why not” approaches rather than...
I understand tinkering, learning how to do stuff through practice etc etc but some things to do cause "eh why not?" is just plain stupid.. infact if you apply that mentality outside of computer/networking it tends to lead to people getting hurt and even killed lol
umbral cliff
I understand tinkering, learning how to do stuff through practice etc etc but so...
But this isn’t outside of computing. This is literally a I’m running through a proxy why not make it do https
I never said “eh why not” for everything in life
forest edge
not everything is https friendly and if your network ends up half and half then you gotta question.. wtf am i doing? lol
umbral cliff
I’ve not found anything that’s not https friendly. It’s what a proxy is for. It does the insecure connection for you
restive vapor
How can I make a fake device like this one
agile jewel
It's not a fake device
restive vapor
It's not a fake device
I want to make a fake device that looks like that
agile jewel
You need to program an integration
If you don't know python the ez answer is you can't
restive vapor
https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/creating_component_index/
It only covers the base
Not how to make a device
restive vapor
Let’s start there
To interface my microbit that I moded with lots of buttons
umbral cliff
To interface my microbit that I moded with lots of buttons
What methods can the microbit talk with?
restive vapor
What methods can the microbit talk with?
Serial
Then from my PC websocket to homeassistant
umbral cliff
Serial
Then from my PC websocket to homeassistant
So you already have it included?
restive vapor
So you already have it included?
Yep
umbral cliff
So what are you trying to achieve then
Because it sounds like you’ve already done it
restive vapor
So what are you trying to achieve then
I need a device so I can see it all in one place
Currently it spans across multiple entity
umbral cliff
I need a device so I can see it all in one place
Currently it spans across multi...
You can’t create virtual devices. If it spans across multiple entities then just create a front end
Also as people have said many many times, this is not a support channel
restive vapor
You can’t create virtual devices. If it spans across multiple entities then just...
Well front end != Device
umbral cliff
Well front end != Device
But why do you need devices. If you want to organise it then create a good front end. Otherwise you will want to use an integration with one device (eg the serial integration itself)
Again, not a support channel
restive vapor
But why do you need devices. If you want to organise it then create a good front...
I can write custom intergration if needed
umbral cliff
I can write custom intergration if needed
Then write one. The docs were posted above
Again, not a support channel
restive vapor
Then write one. The docs were posted above
But that only provide the base not the code to init a device
And I can't find it either
umbral cliff
But that only provide the base not the code to init a device
You have to write the code
Again, not a support channel
You could also change the method you’re including it, and do it in a way where it comes in by one device (eg mqtt)
restive vapor
You have to write the code
And it always report run from project root
umbral cliff
Did you set up your dev setup as per the docs
restive vapor
Not yet
umbral cliff
Then that’s part of the issue
restive vapor
Then that’s part of the issue
late gate
Good Morning
umbral cliff
Maybe don’t use your phone for coding
late gate
Phone for coding???
restive vapor
Maybe don’t use your phone for coding
Well it's a vps
agile jewel
Maybe don’t use your phone for coding
Man all the apps for coding suck so bad. Even on high end phone it lags cuz GBoard is trying to auto-correct the whole document xD
umbral cliff
Well it's a vps
So connect on your computer?
restive vapor
So connect on your computer?
Maybe but I am on my bed
umbral cliff
Man all the apps for coding suck so bad. Even on high end phone it lags cuz GBoa...
Because typing code on a phone is a PITA?
agile jewel
Like when i need to change 1 line of code i have to turn on my PC to do it. When i tried to edit it on phone it always adds some invisible characters or makes a mess in the code. Horrible
What's PITA?
umbral cliff
Yeah sounds like the apps you use are terrible then. Never had any issues on iOS
late gate
I dont even write automations on my phone
restive vapor
Using the examples
fallow glen
I dont even write automations on my phone
It's another conversation Aleks, not aimed at you. See the reply thread.
restive vapor
Yeah sounds like the apps you use are terrible then. Never had any issues on iOS
Using this
Just edit
umbral cliff
What's PITA?
Pain in the ass
umbral cliff
Using this
What about the full dev environment that there are steps to follow
It’s really not something you’ll want to edit on a phone
It’s a lot you need to do
restive vapor
What about the full dev environment that there are steps to follow
Well it says I can just copy into the custom intergration folder
umbral cliff
Well it says I can just copy into the custom intergration folder
Okay then you can make a sensor. That’s going to make an entity not a device
restive vapor
Okay then you can make a sensor. That’s going to make an entity not a device
But it does support multiple states in one sensor right?
Like one entry for each button
fallow glen
You'd probably be better off in the support channels...perhaps start with #general-archived
umbral cliff
But it does support multiple states in one sensor right?
Like one entry for each...
Yes one entity per button. Unless your sensor then does whatever button was pressed (so you don’t know if multiple buttons were pressed)
But also what Lloyd said and what I’ve said a lot. This is not a support channel
restive vapor
Yes one entity per button. Unless your sensor then does whatever button was pres...
Good
Gona start it with the cloudflare r2 Api so I don't need to use the rest Api intergration
umbral cliff
Good
Gona start it with the cloudflare r2 Api so I don't need to use the rest A...
Are you listening about how this isn’t a support channel too btw?
restive vapor
Are you listening about how this isn’t a support channel too btw?
Yes
umbral cliff
So why did you keep asking
restive vapor
So why did you keep asking
Let's talk in general
fallow glen
Bit damp in old VIC is it? @umbral cliff
umbral cliff
Bit damp in old VIC is it? <@137144563109330944>
I’m not based in Vic 😛
restive vapor
@umbral cliff let continue in #general-archived
fallow glen
I’m not based in Vic 😛
Oh...I saw Melb and assumed. Mea culpa. 🙂
umbral cliff
Oh...I saw Melb and assumed. Mea culpa. 🙂
I am from melb, however now in Canberra
fallow glen
I am from melb, however now in Canberra
Oh so you're throwing us off the scent! I don't have to ask how it is in the ACT because it's always raining and freeze-your-arse-off weather! 🙂
umbral cliff
Oh so you're throwing us off the scent! I don't have to ask how it is in the ACT...
Yet today it was warm and sunny!
fallow glen
Damn...I missed a great 'Caught in the ACT' joke opportunity there...
fallow glen
Yet today it was warm and sunny!
Fantastic!
Going to make a coffee...Put your orders in and I'll read them when I get back with mine! 🙂
Fun-spoilers!
restive vapor
Going to make a coffee...Put your orders in and I'll read them when I get back w...
You know a fix to this?
restive vapor
Do you understand
Yes
But there's no human respond in general