the-water-cooler

[clever mortar]

The forum, sure
Here, as mentioned in the channel topic you should ask in #general-archived if you don't know where to start

The topic is at the top of the window, and most channels have them

[dawn prawn]

https://www.ikea.com/au/en/p/tradfri-led-bulb-e14-250-lumen-wireless-dimmable-warm-white-chandelier-clear-10441381/

Anyone used these?

Just training off Atx’s Symonfysk obsession

[umbral cliff]

I’ve used tradfri (not those specific ones but others) and I love them. Work nicely with zigbee

[unique cypress]

Thanks, will go to #general-archived first!

[dawn prawn]

I got a couple RGB ones but I can’t tell if these are Zigbee or not

Unless I’m retarded, which I am mostly

[umbral cliff]

If it requires their gateway it’s a safe choice it’s zigbee

[dawn prawn]

Yeah I’m retarded then

[umbral cliff]

😂

Pretty much everything but the symphonsk are zigbee for ikeas smart stuff

It’s nice

[dawn prawn]

if only they had bayonette fittings

the other fixture at my house that they'd look good in, i just had a shelly dimmer 2 installed on

more than 30 shellies in the house now, so much to do making everything harmonious

not looking forward to the sparkies bill

[clear ferry]

Tradfri is all zigbee

I don't have any filament ones

But 70+ regular cct ones

[dawn prawn]

70+ in a Norwegian home? Don't tell me you've got one hanging off every window frame?

[clear ferry]

No, i have multiple fittings with 3 in them though

My house has less bulbs than most, 100+ bulbs isn't unnormal

[forest edge]

wtf

[umbral cliff]

Don’t they have some with bayonet?

[dawn prawn]

Yeah I would easily have over 100 at my place, but only 24 odd are actually bulbs

[dawn prawn]

nah they are all screw in with the exception of the GU10's

[clear ferry]

Lol bayonet

[dawn prawn]

i have 3 fixtures with bayonette bulbs, one chandelier at the front door that we never use and two picture lights

for the filament bulbs tho, still cannot beat my Philips Hue one, about the size of a softball.

[clear ferry]

They still had two symfonisk left @umbral cliff

I picked up one

[clever mortar]

Still no news of when the UK is getting the gen 2 bookshelf speakers

[clear ferry]

What is the difference?

[clever mortar]

Newer hardware, sounds a little better apparently

[clear ferry]

The original sounds great

[clever mortar]

Oh, and lower power consumption

[dawn prawn]

do those speakers integrate to sonos?

[clear ferry]

Yes

[dawn prawn]

cray cray

[clever mortar]

They're basically Sonos

[clear ferry]

I love the hack one guy did by attaching them to full front speakers

[hushed basalt]

I didn't like the sound of the bookshelf v1's when I listened to them in the store

[dusky plank]

https://tenor.com/view/okily-dokily-okie-dokie-ok-kay-nerd-gif-11941985

it‘s not even about the money, all 4 pis now run at ~60-70‘C

[umbral cliff]

Nor australia either. We’re forgotten

[dusky plank]

when before it was below 50

[umbral cliff]

But also have full surround sound by adding a Sonos sound bar

[dusky plank]

thats what happens if you use too much power

[umbral cliff]

Nah mate we’ve got plenty of power, coal will keep us going into the future 😛

[clear ferry]

Lulz

[dusky plank]

@last cedar

[shadow prawn]

We have disconnected some akws so that we can burn more coal now

[last cedar]

Do crime. Be raccoon

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-animal-cute-steal-skip-gif-5500680

[shadow prawn]

Trashpanda

[clear ferry]

This one trick makes Americans furious

[dawn prawn]

why? the steering wheel is on the correct side for them?

[clear ferry]

No, child seat in the front is apparently a sin

In some states that is

[dawn prawn]

yes it is a sin, straight to hell

illegal here unless you have no back seats

[clear ferry]

It's perfectly fine and endorsed by the automobile foundation

Just turn off the airbag

[dawn prawn]

airbag?

[clear ferry]

Yes, the passenger side airbag

[dawn prawn]

sorry, do not have airbags

[clear ferry]

Lol

Wth

How is life in the 80s?

[dawn prawn]

its wonderful and classy

[clear ferry]

One in the back too

I'm not gonna disagree with the statement, but I wouldn't have my family in it

[dawn prawn]

yeah thats why i am looking for a second car now that we do not live in the centre of the city

[clear ferry]

At one point I owned four cars, I'm back to two now

[dawn prawn]

I had a 1970 Landy, but sold it because it was just too much to restore to a drive-able state

[clear ferry]

The mercedes Gelenderwagens are more common than the land rovers here

[shy flare]

Where would I ask for some advice on a system / product I'd like to get?

[dawn prawn]

absolute trash

[forest edge]

https://preview.redd.it/frzf7iwyp5d71.jpg?auto=webp&s=5c801805d97b83774a5b03cc48943a4ed52620e3

[shy flare]

*Geländewagen
it's German for terrain car basically

[clear ferry]

Ich weisse

[dawn prawn]

And translates to the Australian term 'absolute overpriced garbage'

[clear ferry]

The Norwegian military had a lot of them, sold them off to private people

[shy flare]

😌

[clear ferry]

#hardware-archived

[shy flare]

Thanks

[dawn prawn]

We bought them to replace our Land Rover fleet, I think around 2250 of them. They were garbage when I was using them and reports are they are still the same.

you could put a sheet of A4 paper over the air intake and choke the engine...

[clear ferry]

[dawn prawn]

we also bought more German vehicles, MAN trucks, which are too wide and too heavy for use on our roads.... you have to get a permit every time you want to drive them off a military base

[clear ferry]

Norwegian military had the first gen

So in the 70s

[forest edge]

with the exception of the hummer the land rover was the only other vehicle offered here with a factory snorkel

[dawn prawn]

I thought the first gen came with swastikas

[clear ferry]

No, that's the beetle

[dawn prawn]

only the finest for mein fuhrer

[clear ferry]

In Norwegian the first gen beetle is called "the bubble"

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/bubble-bubble-boy-jeremy-cohen-jerm-cohen-brooklyn-gif-17952137

and we can see why

[dawn prawn]

not sure the crash test dummies would agree with that one

[clear ferry]

Volvos are great though@dawn prawn collegues of mine have the v90/v60 and are very pleased, I'm very pleased with my xc90

Quality really improved after becoming Chinese

Previous gen v40/50 was horrible

My V70 is the last gen produced in Sweden, very happy with that one too

[umbral cliff]

Parents used to have a V50 back in 2004/2005 in Singapore

Served us well till 2012, when we sold it to a scrapyard as it’s too old for people to buy in Singapore lol

[clear ferry]

That gen was horribly cramped

The v40 before it had a lot of electrical issue

[umbral cliff]

Roomy as a child 😂

[dawn prawn]

haven't looked at the non XC models, might have a look

[dawn prawn]

So long as they are not Russian!!!!

[clear ferry]

V90 is great if you like sporty, but it is too cramped for me

I like big windows

[dawn prawn]

V90 doesn't come to Aus

Only V60

[clear ferry]

Wtf

Why

[dawn prawn]

Right hand drive market

[clear ferry]

Wtf

[dawn prawn]

GM is pulling all its cars from this market

I would assume its due to the right hand drive

[clear ferry]

The v90 is so popular here I swear i see 50 of them on any given drive

[dawn prawn]

thats what we get

[clear ferry]

Wth

Just switch sides already

[forest edge]

chip shortage might play some role in that

[clear ferry]

Like the Swedes

[dawn prawn]

ah yeah they were right hand drive once yeah?

[clear ferry]

Yes

With left hand cars

[dawn prawn]

i think a few countries have done it recently

[clear ferry]

Fucking Swedes

They just switched sides at 12pm one day

Think it was a Thursday

[dawn prawn]

V60 is a fair chunk cheaper, wonder if the missus would kill me for getting her a wagon

[clear ferry]

Just bring one home for test drive

We did v90 and xc90

But the v90 was ignored after stepping into the xc90

[dawn prawn]

V60 has bigger cargo space than the XC60 too

[forest edge]

volvo is so grossly overpriced

[clear ferry]

I was surprised to learn the v90 was 1000 liters less than the v70

It looks huge

But the butt slopes so much

Like the Hyundai i40, my head scratches the roof if I sit in the back

[dawn prawn]

sold

[clear ferry]

Y'all use ticket holders?

I don't think I've had a ticket in a decade

[dawn prawn]

they are almost phased out here

which sucks because i used to enjoy leaving 24 hour parking tickets in the machine for someone else to use for half a day (diff in price between 3 and 24 hours was 50 cents at some places

[clear ferry]

Even the app parking is almost phased out here

Moving to cameras for most places

[dusky plank]

give us the corals back

[clear ferry]

[dawn prawn]

ah for street parking tho, they make you put your rego into the machine so you cannot transfer the ticket

[umbral cliff]

I haven’t seen those except in CBDs in Melbourne (and probably Sydney)

[dawn prawn]

i shit you not, I have seen these within the last decade

[umbral cliff]

Canberra is all just paper ticket and suburbs in Melbourne are all paper ticket

And app of course

[clear ferry]

Lol

Y'all are africa Murica

[dawn prawn]

they have them more and more here in Sydney, up at Manly, Randwick Council has them everywhere now

[umbral cliff]

Nah we just have to appease the elderly who can’t use phones

I use an app for all my parking

Works fine

Not that I ever really use pay parking

Usually the free street parking

[forest edge]

not too many meters here anymore

everything is underground parking or free

[dawn prawn]

I have spent my friday night stuffing around with led downlights, i get very bad flickering on some due to the zellweger ripple through the electrical grid. now that i have shelly dimmers on some of the circuits, its like a night club in some rooms after 10pm

waiting for 12.07am for the next wave to come and see if the lights i've put in now will flicker

[umbral cliff]

You have tickets for underground parking or camera based?

[forest edge]

lol

[clear ferry]

Lol wtf, had to Google that@dawn prawn

[forest edge]

they are generally tickets but you don't have to display them

[clear ferry]

Aussie phenomenon apparently

[dawn prawn]

yep

its phucced

[umbral cliff]

A lot of car parks are moving to camera based here. So they can tell if you’ve been in for the free period and if not they’ll either charge you through your account or at the exit booth by tapping your card

[forest edge]

lol calmelb makes au sound all nice and perfect and beasthouse comes in and just wrecks it lol

[clear ferry]

Camera based is life

[dawn prawn]

tfw you spend money on a sparky to come over and do all this work so you can dim your lights, then the first night you are sitting with the missus and baby in the lounge and a strobe effect goes off for 30 seconds

[clear ferry]

[forest edge]

there is no limited time with our parking so no need for cameras or anything

[umbral cliff]

Wtf is the zellweger ripple

[forest edge]

there is actually a video that talks about just how much land our parking lots take up country wide.. very interesting

[umbral cliff]

It varies a lot from state to state even council to council here. Someone can have incredibly different experiences just a couple streets over

[clear ferry]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zellweger_off-peak?wprov=sfla1

[forest edge]

it's crazy and sounds dumb but interesting

[dawn prawn]

Ah the sheep shaggers get it too

[forest edge]

Scotland?

[tidal bronze]

Lol

[dawn prawn]

New Zealand

Southern Hemisphere

[forest edge]

oh the "other" shaggers lol

[umbral cliff]

I’ve never noticed it before, is it just a Sydney thing or is it nation wide?

[dawn prawn]

nation wide

but the frequencies used in NSW and QLD fuck with low wattage appliances, e.g LED downlights

particularly when they are dimmed

[umbral cliff]

Explains why I haven’t seen it in Vic or act

[forest edge]

get a whole home electrical filter lol

[umbral cliff]

Surprised smart meters can’t just filter it out already

[dawn prawn]

https://physicsmuseum.uq.edu.au/zellweger-ripple-control-receiver

[umbral cliff]

Nice link

[dawn prawn]

well the meter just meters usage

[forest edge]

I remember when they use to make all kinds of products and boosted about filtering the eletrcity here lol

[dawn prawn]

fmd

was a pdf

must have downloaded

[dawn prawn]

try it now, theres a map at the bottom

[umbral cliff]

Smart meters could also just have a filter in it, given they’re smart enough to read the incoming signal too. Plus everyone has them anyway

[dawn prawn]

yeah the filters at the meter do fuck all tho

lots of complaints of spending upward of a grand to put a filter in the meter box and it does not work

[tidal bronze]

Atx heading to the bookstore

[umbral cliff]

I don't see a map?

[dawn prawn]

fuck me!

https://www.tradezone.com.au/media/custom/upload/File-1510698798.pdf

wrong link, again lmao

[forest edge]

dude isn't wearing black makeup and black clothes.. i call sus

[tidal bronze]

That's actually in Norway, he sounded like it was so much fun 😄

[clear ferry]

That is from yesterday here

It snowed a bit

[umbral cliff]

Ah that’s weird. Annoying that they can’t change the frequency because all the legacy shit would break

[clear ferry]

You should have seen me when I was still smoking a pipe and walking around in a bathrobe when going outside

Or, to be fair

[tidal bronze]

Tmi

[clear ferry]

A smoking outfit

[forest edge]

so you use to look like what ozzy osbourne looks like now?

[tidal bronze]

Wonderful

[umbral cliff]

So pretty 😂

Have a rave

Get RGB bulbs

[forest edge]

those things look so tiny

[umbral cliff]

They put out a lot of light

[dawn prawn]

Changing the lights tonight has reduced it massively

[tidal bronze]

4" cans

[umbral cliff]

Decently stable

[forest edge]

i guess it must be high ceilings then lol

[dawn prawn]

Yeah there’s the faintest bit of flicker

[dawn prawn]

3m in this room, and that’s probably the lowest ceiling except for the laundry

[forest edge]

well that isn't high

wtf size is those lights?

[dawn prawn]

90mm

pretty standard

[tidal bronze]

Yep 4" 😆

[forest edge]

wtf, why do they look so tiny in that video lol

[dawn prawn]

super duper wide angle maybe

[umbral cliff]

Do you need new glasses sonoma? Might have to get them custom made to be that strong

[tidal bronze]

Those are pretty small only used for accent lighting

[forest edge]

really? i am the only one who thinks those look tiny?

[dawn prawn]

what are you compensating for?

[forest edge]

I have 6" cans in my lower floors of my house and the ceiling height isn't as tall. prob why they look so small to me cause you have so few in a large room

[dawn prawn]

You got solar haven't u Atx?

[clear ferry]

Nope

Haven't bothered

[dawn prawn]

Ah thought you mentioned it. Was gonna ask how many kWh you put out at this time of year

Ok one light circuit, which has a ripple filter installed in it, still goes into party mode

[scenic radish]

[forest edge]

that is nuts

[wintry crow]

Deez nuts..?

[forest edge]

I like how autotune is just normal these days and everyone who uses it gets praised for their vocal talents lol

tedi proving my point lol

[dusky plank]

lol autotune

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cMZDvlrSZ_E/maxresdefault.jpg

[clear ferry]

Lol autotune

I just play out of tune to begin with

Sounds the same

[young sigil]

Awful?

[clear ferry]

Yes

[clever mortar]

I can hit any note ||as long as it's wide enough||

[clear ferry]

I should get back to trying to learn the slide guitar at some point

[dawn prawn]

ikea got a new rgb bulb?

[forest edge]

yes but now you got to assemble it from pieces

[dawn prawn]

does it come with a disposable soldering iron?

[forest edge]

of course not, how else you expect them to keep the price down?

[dawn prawn]

potentially inferior materials combined with slave labour?

[sinful fable]

ikea do sell a soldering iron i think or used to atleas

maybe not, no reference on google

[late schooner]

maybe a strange question but:

does anyone know about paid / dedicated ha support

[clever mortar]

There's a few folks on the forum who offer that

Some of those people may not know which way up is, so ... YMMV

[last dirge]

Your Money May Vanish

[clever mortar]

There was one that would regularly turn up here looking for help, until everybody wised up to them

[last dirge]

that's like the guy that gets the job

then pays a guy on fiverr to do it

[last cedar]

You can pay me and I will help you. 100% legit raccoon help services, totally won't steal your marshmellows or doormat

[last dirge]

or sleep in your garbage cans

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/knock-knock-raccoon-trashpanda-hello-trashcan-gif-19328568

[last cedar]

I would never

[late schooner]

😄 alright that escalleted quickly 😄

[static schooner]

Raccoons hate ding ding ditch as much as humans

[late schooner]

so conclusion be trustworthy but trust no one 😄

[scenic ravine]

😛

[sand ibex]

lmbfao

[last cedar]

Hahaha that is amazing

[last cedar]

Why didn't they make it one, two or 3 spaces

[hallow willow]

Let me just steal this meme, but not before I liked it.

[last dirge]

redoing my *arr/Plex setup because it finally got broken enough to where it stopped working

[scenic ravine]

Lol, I stole it from LinkedIn. Enjoy!

[last cedar]

What happened?

[scenic radish]

Shit broke

[last cedar]

Did it get drunk and try to put bread in Roos (from Winnie the Pooh) pouch, whilst shouting "make me toast you wanker"

[last dirge]

I had a hacked-togther setup where some stuff was running on my NAS, some stuff was running in docker on my server, some stuff was running native on my server

something changed, probably due to when I powered it off when we had an extended power outage and most stuff lost the ability to read/write to certain stuff on the NFS mounts

[last dirge]

I thought Kanga was the one with the pouch

[last cedar]

https://www.google.com/search?q=roo+winnie+the+pooh&oq=roo+winnie&aqs=chrome.0.0i512j69i57j0i512l7.4097j0j9&client=ms-android-sonymobile-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

[last cedar]

Clearly you are a Winnie thr Pooh n00b

🤣

[last dirge]

https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Kanga nah trash panda, you're wrong

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-attack-горький-енот-shocked-gif-15469673

Fight me

I think it might be different names for different regions

[clear ferry]

Time to move some stuff to my unlimited Google drive

My main storage pool is 91% full

[last cedar]

Unlimited you say?

[clear ferry]

Hoyly moyly, Grey's anatomy is 480GB

Swipe left to move that

[last cedar]

Have you tried uploading a chrome tab?

Only 480GB?

It is 18 seasons?

[forest edge]

just the pilot episode

[clear ferry]

I stick to 720p for currently running series, then upgrade them to 1080 when 265 is available

Anime is 1080 by default

[tame sand]

any opinions on jellyfin vs plex? I wanted to get started with plex in a few weeks after exams but while researching jellyfin popped up quite alot.

[forest edge]

wasn't all that long ago people had said jellyfin was buggy as hell. i wonder if they fixed all that

[clear ferry]

Afaik it is still buggy, and less client ecosystem

[forest edge]

just looked at thier site, the client ecosystem seems to be improved

I didn't know jellyfin could remote stream like plex

[last dirge]

isn't all streaming remote?

[clear ferry]

It's kinda a basic feature

[last dirge]

LOL, recruiter just called with a SUPER thick south Indian accent and google transcribed the voicemail in spanish

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-bean-rowan-atkinson-atkinson-smiling-gif-22135030

[last dirge]

que brandy subdirector informada y facil

[last cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/splwkc/this_cat_ditched_his_owners_to_live_his_best_life/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[last dirge]

he kinda looks raccoonish

[last cedar]

I recruited a cat for my heists

The lack of thumbs may be an issue

[last dirge]

who the hell do recruiters/employers think they're fooling with "remote until after COVID"?

[last cedar]

Most won't say no/ need the money

[last dirge]

"the job is located in Akron, OH but is remote until after COVID"

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-13134027

[last cedar]

I work as a technician, so most of my work needs to be onsite

But I asked about the work that can be done remotely, boss wasn't enthusiastic

[last dirge]

I am a codemonkey

[last cedar]

Like, why the heck not?

"people wonder where you are"

Like

Idgaf

[last dirge]

"people need to worry about themselves"

[glacial knot]

tell them I'm working from home

[last cedar]

Mm

It is a fairly minor detail

I just work remotely and don't tell anyone instead :D

I unfortunately have had shit experience with my other employers

[last dirge]

at the start of COVID I had a manager that couldn't deal with everybody being remote all the time and being unable to "look busy" while in the office

that was pretty miserable

[last cedar]

Remote work possibility is about the only good thing to come from covid

And they want to take it

I have never been wfh by the way

So it is a heck of a bonus

[last dirge]

I've been remote for over 8 years now

[last cedar]

Are you looking for a new job btw?

[last dirge]

yep

[last cedar]

So lots of new jobs are wanting to go back to office after covid?

[last dirge]

seems so

but I'm not interested in those 🙂

[last cedar]

Absolutely dire

I don't like being inflexible

Like, someone needs to come to my house to fix something

Have to take time off wokr

Etc

No office costs, better for environment with less traveling

Silly

I may look at other positions within my current company

I notice a lot of people are wfm higher up

[last dirge]

how is upward mobility for trash pandas?

[last cedar]

Had a teams meeting with someone today, they were wfh

[last cedar]

Well, generally there is a good opportunity to be a trash panda overlord.

But I still like using my thumbs, not sitting down eating popcorn

But as I get older that might change

I think maybe 15% of my work can be wfh today

[last dirge]

I'm tired of building shit that isn't understood and is subsequently discarded/not used

[glacial knot]

make it 20% so you get a full day

[last cedar]

That gets tiring very quick

[last dirge]

yep

[last cedar]

We just have too much to do at work

Not enough experienced technicians

[last dirge]

there's a lot of job descriptions that sound like that to me too

"we need all of these skills in a senior engineer"

[last cedar]

I hate blowing my own trumpet, but I am very good at what I do. Lots are not

[last dirge]

like bro, that's an IT department

[last cedar]

Hehe

Senior python developer

Requires 50 years experience

But wait, python isn't 50 years old

[glacial knot]

50 years of experience, but don't be a day over 40

[last cedar]

I wish you the very best of luck finding new work anyway!

[last dirge]

thanks, shouldn't be hard

I updated my dice profile and my phone's been ringing pretty much non stop all day

[last cedar]

Oh damn, nice one!

[last dirge]

"full-stack java" apparently is high demand

[static schooner]

50 in raccoon years

[last cedar]

That's right!

[ebon hemlock]

Anyone ever run a vul scan on their ha frontend?

[light trout]

daily

[last cedar]

Interesting, is your HA just open to the internet?

[glacial knot]

you can still be open to XSS when it's just internal. Provided the attacker knows your structure and has anything they'd like to attack in HA

[worldly sierra]

Pretty sure the docs say it's not meant to be exposed. VPN is advised

[ebon hemlock]

No, a few layers of protection in between. Need to test direct.

Was just surprised at the # reported

[light trout]

These tools does not have any context

[last dirge]

looks like angular 1.x is EOL now

[last cedar]

I was kinda thinking a VPN would probably be enough. Guess it might not be enough?

[clever mortar]

It's hard for a VPN to be the least secure option

[ebon hemlock]

They do if drilled into

I'll probably keep it behind vpn - this was just my curiosity getting the best of me

[dusky plank]

no need to panic

just follow basic webserver practice

good passwords, 2FA, fail2ban and some ID should be enough

[light trout]

I have 1 of those 🤣

[low harness]

An ID?

[dusky plank]

good ‘nuff

[clear ferry]

A webserver?

[dusky plank]

intrusion detection 🙄 plebs

[light trout]

homeassistant

[dusky plank]

🥴

[low harness]

That's a march from some opera, right?

[dusky plank]

its mint liqeur

[low harness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5FkBkihE1Y

[dusky plank]

never heard of that, probably does not taste as delicious

[low harness]

Military music is really big in my home town, so that's just the way my brain works...

Those two euphonium obligatos in the trio are quite delicios, though...

[forest edge]

at first I thought the static was the music lol

crocs makes a cloth lined version of their normal clogs. kept wearing holes in every slipper I ever had so the woman got me these since they are almost indestructible

[tidal bronze]

Crocs 🤔

[static schooner]

Nurses seem to love those things

[tidal bronze]

Is it still a thing

[low harness]

Sorry about the quality. Doghousediaries died a few years ago, and the only copy I could find was on the site starting with a P that rhymes with Mt Everest.

...if you ignore metre...

Too bad... they had a few really spot-on comics.

[shadow prawn]

Nice some air from the failed state

[dusky plank]

i spent over a year in the „failed state“… i think its quite funky

[tidal bronze]

Favorite time of the day

[forest edge]

Yea. I've have had a normal pair for awhile cause I kept getting my shoes wet so Crocs solved the issue with pissing off the woman lol

[shadow prawn]

Try some bielefelder luft

[forest edge]

Expensive for an injection molded shoe but they work

[tidal bronze]

They had to pay for the mold

[dusky plank]

@forest edge be like

[shadow prawn]

@clear ferry would do

[dusky plank]

lol MMX required

[static schooner]

one screen per D

[tidal bronze]

I guess there is no such thing as a silent and energy-efficient 2U/4U

[shadow prawn]

Build your own 2U/4U with blackjack and hookers

[tidal bronze]

Hmm no time to tinker, that's time wasted. So looking for something off the shelf

[green inlet]

Mint liqueur? Does that taste like mouth wash?

[shadow prawn]

No tastes delicious

[scenic radish]

Ooo Dr. McGillicuddy's mentholmint is really good

[green inlet]

Is that mouthwash?

[tidal bronze]

Must be like creme de menthe so yep mouth wash

[shadow prawn]

Delicious mouthwash

[tidal bronze]

There is no such thing

[scenic radish]

Mint schnapps

[shadow prawn]

Delicious mouthwash 2.0

[tidal bronze]

Oh ok. 2.0

[dusky plank]

yes. it is mouthwash.

[dusky plank]

mouthwash schnaps

[green inlet]

Reminds me of the days of Goldschläger, if you drank too much and ended up praying to the porcelain gods…..it was all sparkly.

[dusky plank]

you always end up drinking too much with that mouthwash stuff

you bite the mouthwash, the mouthwash bites back

[green inlet]

I am not a schnapps type.

[dusky plank]

its only 18% so liqeur

[green inlet]

Jägermeister

That’s German yes?

[dusky plank]

i only do vodka with strong alcohol

beer and vodka, everything else trashes my liver because of a skiing accident

[green inlet]

No skiing accident here but sounds about right. Beer and vodka mainly

[scenic radish]

S T R O N G

[mint berry]

@velvet horizon hi

[dusky plank]

hi

[green inlet]

Jägermeister is German correct?

[shadow prawn]

Yes

JÄGERMEISTER!

[green inlet]

Properly chilled…..it is very nice

[shadow prawn]

Coming from wolfenbüttel, i lived there in the past

[tidal bronze]

What is this? Drinks for little boys and girls ?

[dusky plank]

family therapy

[shadow prawn]

I am drinking jägermeister, cause the bottle isnt going to empty itself

[tidal bronze]

You can always throw that, and not talk to guests that bring that shit as a gift.

[shadow prawn]

I am drinking jägermeister cause i dont know what else keeps body and soul together

[tidal bronze]

Oh boy

[shadow prawn]

Boi boi boi boi boi

[tidal bronze]

Keep at it 👍

[static schooner]

those ads look like they're straight out of Playboy of the 80s

[shadow prawn]

I do not drink jägermeister, just to clarify that

[dusky plank]

they are

[tidal bronze]

@static schooner did you just run and double check that shoe box ?

[shadow prawn]

Zwinkersmiley

[static schooner]

it's the digital age, baby

[tidal bronze]

It's ok you don't have to digitally justify, no one's frowning 😆

[scenic radish]

https://c.tenor.com/puDwsd3hmTwAAAAM/laughing-hysterically.gif

[hushed basalt]

Have any of you had any thought into your family handling your server/tech in the event of your passing

Home servers, HA instances, etc

[finite atlas]

what benefit does the cat bring to your majestiy?

[static schooner]

distraction

[tidal bronze]

Yes for everything excluding HA

Don't think anyone else can maintain HA so shutdown if errors out and get back to using switches.

[forest edge]

Makes me think of those services you can get that will wipe your existence off the internet and clear your browser for you upon death

[tidal bronze]

😄 it's not easy if you have not planned extensively.

[forest edge]

I went the other direction. upon my death every discord server and social media site i am on will be uploaded with a picture of my hairy cornhole with a message that says Farewell.

[tidal bronze]

Getting back to HA, this is why I always go for zwave switches, plugs etc. Don't need HA or anything to work manually.

[forest edge]

I would think internal options like shelly would be better cause they work without internet/HA but could also just be removed and your switch always remains the same

[tidal bronze]

No internal options for me. Do it right or not do it at all.

[forest edge]

zwave is not doing it right 👅

besides when your switch fails your shit out of luck, when my switch fails i'm still 50% operational lol

[tidal bronze]

You can always replace if it fails. That's not a common sense argument. Unless you have 2 switches and 1 light for the entire house. 😆

[forest edge]

but replacement requires leaving the house unless you buy spares beforehand

[tidal bronze]

I thought this was about smart home after death. Does it matter even if you have box load of spares.

[forest edge]

well for the person who keeps on living it's a real issue they will likely have to deal with

[tidal bronze]

I guess you didn't read 👆

[static schooner]

Smart Coffins are an untapped market

[forest edge]

I mean if you wanted to be technical, if you don't care after your dead, then why prepare at all lol

[tidal bronze]

Oh not for me for people you leave behind. No point in all the smarts if you're a jackass 😄

[strange crag]

a market to die for!

[forest edge]

I don't think it makes you a jackass, shit is too complicated these days to prepare for everything. hell your spouse might be home one night and hear a buzz from a tablet left in a drawer from a message sent by a Norwegian boosting about his breast had finally gone away with all the testosterone shots. I mean seriously.. who plans for that?

[tidal bronze]

You plan for everything you can.

[forest edge]

the really only way is to teach someone else in the house how to use and disassemble your HA setup

[tidal bronze]

What I said.

[forest edge]

a lot of people don't have that as an option

but that dosen't mean they should avoid trying to make thier home smart because they are jackass for leaving a home with issues to someone who knows nothing about it lol

so does smart home technician fall under a licensed electrician?

[tidal bronze]

Perhaps in the future

But not planning is no excuse jackass or not. 😄

[forest edge]

well maybe one day it will be the standard and there won't be any real need of planning

[tidal bronze]

I know first hand from previous properties what a nightmare it is to even rent out with HA. Had to pull out and leave all zw as is. Never again.

[forest edge]

lol

that's only because HA is mishmash of diffrent stuff. once things become standard then it would be no diffrent than going all lutron ecosystem or whatever

[tidal bronze]

Agreed

[glacial knot]

Go for the long plan. Get HA established as a de-facto standard and have people ask for it 🙂

[tidal bronze]

I just don't want to ever deal with it again. Lol.

[forest edge]

prewiring a home for smart home stuff and then just letting the tenant utilize that or not would be fine

infact it may even be a selling point

drops for poe cameras, centralized media room or cabinet

I wish all houses came like that lol

[tidal bronze]

That's how it was. Trust me you don't want to get into any of that. Vanilla keeps those conversations with property management to a very minimum

[strange crag]

Still a house with a utility cabinet would be a good thing. With easy access to roof and floor space (where such exists)

[clear ferry]

Ugh, dealing with people

Nah, I'll stay out of property

[cedar chasm]

Hu-mans are the absolute worst

[clear ferry]

Hjomanns

Like the Swedes pronounce it

[strange crag]

MadaoZ pronounced it the Ferengi way!

but you dont have the lobes for that ATX

😉

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/quark-ive-been-waiting-for-you-star-trek-ds9-gif-7834991

I think I'm gonna move from truenas scale to pure Debian

Some of the limitations are really annoying

Fook it, I'm gonna do it

https://tenor.com/view/connor-mc-gregor-gtfo-gtfoh-get-the-fuck-out-of-here-gif-10203692

Norway is now fully open, except for "if you feel sick, please stay home" and "if adults feel sick, you can take a test"

[last cedar]

Why not proxmox?

|| provoking the dragon ||

[clear ferry]

Because it also has restrictions, runs lxc bullshit and userbase is a bunch of cunts

[last cedar]

Oh yeah, you were allergic to GUI

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-chicken-pox-rashes-allergies-gif-9695043

[last cedar]

Open question.....

Will you move your zfs array over?

[clear ferry]

Yes

I will run zfs

[last cedar]

And how will you send emails on smart test fails etc?

[clear ferry]

zpool import

[last cedar]

I read about "zed"

[forest edge]

you forgot the... "if you feel you are gonna die please climb into a trash can beforehand"

[clear ferry]

Cron jobs can do that

[last cedar]

Which seemed to be how proxmox people did it

[last cedar]

When you play with them, let me know please. The main reason I want to go with scale is familiarity, for just stuff like that. Super easy to setup and email alert for too warm disks, etc

Ty

[clear ferry]

I will cc you on all my steps

🇲 🇮 🇨 🇭 🇪 🇱 🇱 🇪🦝

[last cedar]

I still won't understand the steps

But thanks ❤️

[dense halo]

<@&330946878646517761> pls ban @cobalt bridge because of malicious stuff, phishing etc.

sorry for ping and maybe wrong channel...

[finite atlas]

Just disable your DM for non friends

a whitelist is far more effective then a blacklist for spam

[dense halo]

i'll disable it for "support servers" but in general i hate that

[clear ferry]

I'll graylist you

[forest edge]

Someone needs to post "Home Assistant! Home Assistant! Home Assistant!" to this video lol https://youtu.be/4F9TNVvea3g

[low harness]

It's the right channel. Thank you.

Also remember the big red button right there.

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/do-not-press-priest-red-button-tempted-afraid-gif-5712598

[dense halo]

i already clicked it

but i'll warn staff of "mutal servers" about that incident so they may react

[low harness]

👍

[finite atlas]

i'm fine with that

[clear ferry]

[strange crag]

hahahah like his sense of humour!

[remote hamlet]

i am already sorry for the question, but what makes Home Assistant better or more user friendly than Homekit? 😅

[dusky plank]

homekit is very limited

[umbral cliff]

Homekit has a very small set of supported products. Home Assistant supports hundreds to thousands. You can however use homekit with home assistant, so HA as the backend, HomeKit as the User Interface

[green inlet]

The granularity level of automations you can do as well as the number of things you can use to trigger them.

[umbral cliff]

HA is still surprising me and Im loving every step of it

[forest edge]

one stop shop

[dusky plank]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOTPeyBXsAAIBpj.png

[green inlet]

It is in no way more user friendly though. There is a rather steep learning curve. It is by no means unattainable though

[umbral cliff]

For my parents I just made HA go through homekit so they have a nice UI and it does everything they want

Then HA can do anything else on the backend through me

[dusky plank]

it's also awesome to have siri shout insults back at your voice queries

hey siri, vacuum my room!

siri be like

https://theactingaspie.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/loud-noises.jpg

[green inlet]

Or for google and Alexa to have sexually erotic conversations about the status of your home

[dusky plank]

I just changed my roborock voice to some random anime character speaking chinese or something

I have no idea what she says but its too cute

[forest edge]

lol be like that product I think it's japanese with the holo anime girl who greets you when you come home etc

was like a desktop device that could control smart home stuff but displayed a holo anime girl

[dusky plank]

yeah that one hologram girl waiting for you to return home is for simps

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/_TJHhf8URB8

atx prob has 10 of them throughout his home

[dusky plank]

I'd rather have 10 beer than returning home then

[green inlet]

Sonoma, you working pretty hard to make her cool

[forest edge]

if you already find her cool, then it doesn't take any effort to convince you

[green inlet]

You just used the I know you are but what am I comeback. Good thing it is time for me to get off the internet and start my day cause…….

[forest edge]

douchebag remarks get douchebag replies

[clear ferry]

I know I am cool

But what are you

For a moment i was hoping for SNMP or SMTP @dusky plank

[dusky plank]

i thought you just had holidays?

you need more

[clear ferry]

I am only working 50%

That is almost holiday

Ironically when I'm back now there are dozens of multi day projects waiting for me, so they have to pick a number and wait in line, whereas before I started paternity leave it was only one day stuff

[forest edge]

cannot tell you how much I love midwest weather. went all week around the 50's and immediately starting the weekend it's 14F outside with a high of 30 and then on monday we go back to the 50's

[dusky plank]

50 degree 🥵

[inner lava]

Spambot inbound

<@&330946878646517761>

Wait a damn second, the spambot even replied 🙃

Now he blocked me.

That was fun.

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/reverse-card-uno-uno-cards-gif-13032597

[elder sable]

much spambotterinos

[umbral cliff]

Without the discord ID number or even the #xxxx number the mods can’t do much

[inner lava]

942060152893353994

[low harness]

We've banned a lot of "Whatever Academy" thelast couple of days. It's some kind of long time play.

[clear ferry]

Typical russian troll factory you say

They saw @forest edge was here and thought this was the right place

[dusky plank]

here we go

4th booster

https://tenor.com/view/knight-rider-turbo-gif-5597096

[umbral cliff]

What’s that from?

[dusky plank]

no idea, by the looks of it I'd say some router/AP

Software Defined Xeon CPUs 🤢 wtf intel

[forest edge]

you damn right. must be why I don't get those spams even after I turned back on DM's

I am protected

[forest edge]

Holy crap windows wants people to move to win 11

[cedar chasm]

I have underestimated the Swedish raccoon demographic. They even have their own toy stores

[forest edge]

they just hijacked my restart till I jumped through hoops to give them the finger

[cunning onyx]

@last cedar https://github.com/bandit-masked/raccoon

[last cedar]

Dronery reciprocating dingle-arm

[last cedar]

They need beta testers

[last cedar]

I own all the Lekia shops

Took 27 million doormats and a threat to give their old CEO rabies. But I managed it

[last cedar]

Oh
My
God

[cunning onyx]

😁

[dusky plank]

holy moly, macos monterey has 11,5gb

[glacial knot]

Does it come with its own promotional videos?

[dusky plank]

I think the transition to apple silicon needs a lot of space

[clear ferry]

I still remember installing operating systems from floppy

[dusky plank]

was the same with the transition from ppc to intel, they suddenly dropped 6gb with snow leopard or lion

[clear ferry]

The g4 macbooks were actually sweet

[glacial knot]

Do they ship both/fast binaries?

[dusky plank]

I have no idea, I just started to upgrade my `11 macbook air with monterey

[cedar chasm]

11.5gb over 28800 baud modem would have been good fun

[dusky plank]

monterey is the latest and they dropped support for my 10 year old macbook air for it

so opencore legacy is the way

[clear ferry]

I still have nightmares about upgrading 2324 procurve switches over serial and forgetting to increase the baudrate from 9600

[cedar chasm]

Sounds like a good time

[clear ferry]

I should learn clearpass policy manager

[zenith mason]

<@&330946878646517761> can you ban him? he is trying to scam ppl accounts

[scenic radish]

Lol the stupid steam scam again

[dusky plank]

click his profile, get his ID, write it here

then click the red button in your screen

[zenith mason]

Jerick12#7349

[thick crypt]

He is banned 😉

[clear ferry]

[zenith mason]

thanks ☺️

[shadow prawn]

I used to be clean

[cloud laurel]

so far i know that you guys hate raspberry pis and HAOS

what do you think about shelly?

would you wire up the whole house lighting using shelly?

[clever mortar]

Personally, no, but I don't like WiFi connected devices for that

[glacial knot]

802.11 or all wifi?

[scenic radish]

I would use smart switches rather than a shelly

[cloud laurel]

we have no good smart switches here

i can only order from aliexpress

and the smart switch i ordered from there suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks

[scenic radish]

Oof

Straya?

[glacial knot]

I ordered smart switches there once
They had 80V in the off state

[cloud laurel]

otherwise i'd 100% go with smart dimmer switches

[glacial knot]

though I never measured how much power I could have pulled from that

[cloud laurel]

my current idea is to have all the light and switch cables to a central electrical cabinet

and print out a bunch of these https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4580255

so in the event something messes up i can easily rewire them

or even use a "manual mode". a friend has the same, but with PLCs and with the flip of a switch the switches control the lights

i'd copy his design, but i want to dim the lights which is to expensive for PLCs

[cedar chasm]

That's a fun idea

[cloud laurel]

also shelly has an upcoming pro line that uses ethernet

and is in din rail mountable

[cedar chasm]

Requires a solid effort on wiring though

[last dirge]

it seems that's somewhat common in new construction outside of North America

[glacial knot]

solid wiring?

[last dirge]

no, homerun wiring

[flat juniper]

That's odd, the #general-archived #integrations-archived channels just disappeared for me?

[fallow karma]

You're banned from that 🤣

[last dirge]

@flat juniper either you got banned

[flat juniper]

😮

[last dirge]

or you have the accordion setting on

probably the accordion setting

[flat juniper]

I don't think I'm banned since I can click those and type

[glacial knot]

can you click the channel links in your own message?

[flat juniper]

Yes

I don't want to be banned ;_;

[glacial knot]

then blame discord for being weird /shrug

[last dirge]

if it looks like that it'll automatically collapse channels you've dismissed all the notifications from

[flat juniper]

I just asked some questions about setting up HA to play media files via script to a home theater reciever

I hope I didn't do anything wrong

[glacial knot]

is that polish wiring?

[static schooner]

No, it's just your Discord settings

[flat juniper]

That one is also missing from my list

Blah damn discord

[last dirge]

this is a PICNIC error

[fallow karma]

Nope, it's just fiber optic ISP Polish Edition

[flat juniper]

No need to be rude, friend

[glacial knot]

bought some nitrokeys for work just a couple days ago. No their site is MiA D:

[last dirge]

this is cool as shit

https://www.reddit.com/rpan/sqz90b?ref=bd6b55ad-c3a4-4b39-9a51-5b2f90ceadbb&utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&utm_content=rpan_stream

[fallow karma]

What's that crapy notification after last update? I just don't get it

[rose moth]

has anyone used the app ring-mqtt

its working really well for me but i have one issue

on my hardwired doorbell the battery drains crazy

[last dirge]

#integrations-archived

[rose moth]

it has nothing to do with home assistant

well not nothing

im talking about the separate docker image

its fine ill ask in #add-ons-archived

[cedar chasm]

Riddle me this, Symfonisk fans!
Why didn't they just make that picture-framey speaker an actual picture frame, for the ultimate covert speaker solution?

[clear ferry]

Because then they can't control the sound

They need to know the material of the picture

[last dirge]

this thing?https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/symfonisk-picture-frame-with-wi-fi-speaker-white-50487329/

[cedar chasm]

Them calling it a picture frame triggers my inner Frank Costanza

https://tenor.com/view/serenity-now-face-palm-gif-12741992

[last dirge]

call an acoustics company and have them print a new insert? http://www.acousticalfulfillment.com/image-panels/

[clear ferry]

I've seen an interesting wall with 40 speakers hidden in it, similar to the material of a canvas, apparently it took 1 week to make it sound the way it should

Nice, no Https in 2022

Great find@last dirge

[last dirge]

top google result

anybody that can do sublimation printing on acoustically transparent fabric could do whatever you wanted with minimal impact to sound

like this place https://www.acoustimac.com/acousticart/acoustic-artskin-custom-printed-acoustic-fabric

[cedar chasm]

My humble abode isn't worthy of such high class swag

[last dirge]

like $30

[clear ferry]

That sounds like two cardboard boxes

Already high class for @cedar chasm

[cedar chasm]

My phone is two cups and a string

Haven't found a good android rom for it yet

[last dirge]

I was considering the symfonisk stuff but I don't feel great about giving money to Sonos

[cedar chasm]

Wasn't really at the top of my list either, but my interest is always peaked when I see an integration that's local push or polling

[clear ferry]

I had one symfonisk speaker last week, i now have three and two symfonisk rotary switches

[last dirge]

I can't get the rotary switches to pair

[clear ferry]

Newb

[last dirge]

what's the trick?

spin it constantly?

[clear ferry]

1. Enable pairing
2. Press the button 4 times
3. ????
4. Profit

Seriously, it is that

[last dirge]

with zigbee2mqtt?

[clear ferry]

Yes

[cedar chasm]

Hah, the movie Cliffhanger

Forgot this was a thing

[clear ferry]

[remote hamlet]

thanks for the reply 🙂

[clear ferry]

Walmart begins locking steaks as shoplifting crimes soar amid inflation - https://v.redd.it/bocehn1epfh81

[last dirge]

I need to add more automation to my setup

I threw away most of what I had before I started over

[tidal bronze]

I looked at some of mine like years old and things have changed a lot. 🤣

[last dirge]

what do you use for voice control?

[tidal bronze]

GA hands down. Alexa was short lived.

[last dirge]

I used to do haaska but it seems like the google assistant integration got way better

I need to just bite the bullet and set up nabu casa and get that going

[tidal bronze]

Do direct much faster

[cedar chasm]

Oh, this is why they didn't make it a picture frame: they sell 20 odd variant "pictures" for 399NOK

?

Profit!

[last dirge]

you mean set up my own gapp?

[tidal bronze]

Yep. Been like that since beginning for me. Never had any issues. Was little bit of work to get it going through cloudflare fw rules but still lightning.

[last dirge]

I'm gettin too old for this shit

🙂

[tidal bronze]

Cloudflare front end is worth it. Set it and done.

[last dirge]

already had it set up for the old system

with caddy

haven't bothered migrating it

was super busy with work until last Thursday

[tidal bronze]

With only CF white listed rest deny on 443

[last dirge]

I couldn't get split-horizon set up properly

so all of my LAN traffic went out and back in again

[tidal bronze]

Oh you running ER right ?

[last dirge]

yeah

[tidal bronze]

I can send you the rules.

[last dirge]

dope

did you get someone to help you with that Python thing?

[tidal bronze]

Yep, thank you.

[clear ferry]

In Norwegian it is "I couldn't care about the devil"

[tidal bronze]

81F, wine or whiskey 🤔

[clear ferry]

Can you confirm the Greek one @opaque girder

I love it

[opaque girder]

Yeap does exist

not heard anyone actually say it though

[clear ferry]

Noice

[opaque girder]

apparently also made it into a song

not as a sentence. The song is called that

[clear ferry]

All i know is kalimera

And kalispera

And feta

[cedar chasm]

There were a couple of Greek banger crew songs in Assassins Creed Odyssey

[opaque girder]

The most hilarious thing was in Zena warrior princess

great 90s series

but somehow they said Kalimera - Kalinuxta (goodnight) then Kalinoches.....

noches is anything but greek

[cedar chasm]

If you can't trust Lucy Lawless for accurate language, then who can you trust?

[dusky plank]

des is mir wurst

what do you say in greek?

[fallow karma]

"No fucks given" means i don't care ?

So there's "koło chuja mi to lata" in Polish *it flutters near my dick"

Btw I've got bottle of nice moonshine for tonight

I'm an enthusiast of diy alcohols

[dusky plank]

had enough of that diy alcohol in indonesia

it knocked me out the first night

when I got home i read a news article mentioning that they punch it with industrial alcohol

[fallow karma]

Nah, here is high art

It's a disgrace to use poor alcohol in diy stuff. Everyone is very proud of his product

This particular one is made by my friend

I think it may be potato one. It's very strong, and has colour of thin tea

[glass sky]

Hello friends

I am wondering if does it matter the order of updates between "Home Assistant Core" and "Operating System"

does it matter if one 1st of other?

[rose moth]

anybody know a good way to use an android device as a wall display

[scenic radish]

Nope. In the future, #330990055533576204 is where questions like that should be asked

[rose moth]

i know screen pinning but it still leaves the bar on top of the browser

[glass sky]

Thanks, that's why I ask here in lobby because a lot of time I ask in a room and send me to somewhere else!!, for some reason I always make that kind of mistake!! maybe misconception of my questions!! 😅

[strange crag]

Could always put linux on it 😉

[dusky plank]

eh, it runs fine now

opencore to the rescue

[acoustic radish]

Off Topic! I have found you

This HA is keeping me up later then gaming and watching series together lol

[green inlet]

Please read the channel topics 😉

[acoustic radish]

I will !! oh noooow my Iphones updates.. like an hour later.. damn Iphone why do I even have that trash

(because my grandfather bought them to my children)

[dusky plank]

yes, windows best 💪

[green inlet]

🍎 ❤️

[brisk glen]

@acoustic radish be glad that you even get updates

[scenic radish]

[static schooner]

Getting hungry, close to dinner time

[scenic radish]

[dusky plank]

take that medikit on your journey

[green inlet]

Why are there no spinning tacos

https://tenor.com/view/taco-day-space-taco-gif-12634060

[alpine rose]

Is there a published time schedule or version ETA of major updates for HA expected down the line?

[static schooner]

the first Wed of every month

and: https://developers.home-assistant.io/

[alpine rose]

That looks like "Dancing Tacos" aka Salsa 😆

[hushed basalt]

Yeah I'm strongly strongly trying to stick to things like Shelly where possiblr

Although the wiring of a lot of switches here make it quite difficult

But stuff that doesn't even need the network up to operate, let alone home assistant, is always worth it imo

Double plus for stuff that requires no batteries

I like to think of it as, logic and control should be all self contained to whatever the device/system is,

And things like HA are just external actors that can command and query

[clear ferry]

[dusky plank]

drink where?

[finite atlas]

i'll bring you one your majesty
what drink do you wish for?

[clear ferry]

[night night]

Hi, is it possible to overwrite the value of a sensor? Not temporary by the developer tools but permanently. I calculate the total PV production, by counting the daily production. For some reason there is a gab between my calculation and the manufacturers measurement. I'd like to 'equal' both values. Is this possible in HA?

[dusky plank]

yes

[night night]

How please? I guess the developer tools change it temporary, no? Or will it be permanent because there is no 'external device' that overwrites my value as HA calculates this sensor.

[green inlet]

Use a template sensor

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/

And anything further should be discussed in #integrations-archived or #templates-archived

[dusky plank]

@clear ferry
https://www.digikey.com/en/blog/single-pair-ethernet-spe
6 pairs copper line ethernet dead soon 💀

[clear ferry]

Six pairs?

Are you drunk?

[dusky plank]

eh 4 pairs

[glacial knot]

do you mean 2 pair?

[dusky plank]

2 pair is 100mbit?

[glacial knot]

And 10

[dusky plank]

with this you get 1gbit out of a single pair while also providing power

its powerline, without the powerline shite

[clear ferry]

I do like me some 10 single strands of fiber

[forest edge]

cat5 ftw.. 1200ft of it to be precise

[clear ferry]

Disgusting

[dusky plank]

a single fiber theoretically can push infinite amount.. why do you need 10?

[clear ferry]

Because that is what a 10x10 link uses

I do prefer bidi for cabling though

[dusky plank]

... to compensate the speed of current connectors? afaik fiber is limited by the switching modules on the ends...

is that 100gbit then?

[clear ferry]

Mostly 100 these days

But we roll out 200 now

And 400 exist

[dusky plank]

i need 400

so i can send my pigs fasta

[green inlet]

That took me a hot minute, but then I chuckled pretty hard.

[strange crag]

Thisi turning into a friggin zoo with pigs, racoons, and other sundry animals!

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/miss-piggy-gif-13123178

[hushed basalt]

Hardly

I suspect you'll never see this standard in your home, at any point

[scenic radish]

Thicknet 2.0

[hushed basalt]

There's a reason 10gbit copper has never really taken off and replaced 1gbps as the defacto

[tidal bronze]

Yep. One of the main reasons that I went with GE smart motion zw dimmers/switches. No batteries and if I remove HA can be set to regular occupancy/motion mode.

[clear ferry]

That feeling when you Google good default persimmons instead of good default permissions

And Google gives you relevant finds

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/leo123-motion-ocean-motion-of-the-ocean-funny-gif-12461113

[tidal bronze]

That's the feeling when you don't have to worry about batteries 😄

I only wish GE exposed the light sensor to zw in those dimmers so I don't need lux sensors like this all over the place.

[last cedar]

"why would anyone want to know ambient light value" - most motion detectors designers, 2022

[last dirge]

@tidal bronze I'm surprised Inovelli doesn't have anything with motion in the switch yet

their Red series switches are 👍

[tidal bronze]

Yes

[last dirge]

I've been replacing my GE switches with them as they fail due to their crappy caps

[tidal bronze]

I've heard about this but never experienced it myself.

[last dirge]

brownouts kill 'em

I've had 4 or 5 die now

the number of features they've packed into these switches is pretty damn cool

[tidal bronze]

That explains. Been using them, probably 12~13 years, nothing failed yet.
Same with Zooz stuff

[last dirge]

I haven't implemented anything with it yet but the ability to use the RGBLED on the switch for notifications is pretty cool

[tidal bronze]

Homeseer got them too

[scenic radish]

Yeah, I like using the switch LEDs on my Tasmota switches for stuff

The LED on the left switch shows the garage door status (white: closed, red: open), and the one on the right switch shows the security system status (white: disarmed, red: armed)

Press and hold on the left switch also opens/closes the garage door

All within Tasmota; no HA involved

[tidal bronze]

Don't use anything for notifications anymore other than telegram. No UI, no leds, no tts nada. 🙂

[last dirge]

that's another thing that's cool about the Inovelli switches, they've got 8 scenes that they can invoke from the switch

4-tap up/down plus a secondary command button

[tidal bronze]

Haven't touched a switch in ages lol

[glacial knot]

do you use voice control, or are you predictable enough?

[scenic radish]

Eww, voice control

[tidal bronze]

well motion driven

Wife uses GA sometimes when I stay too late with TV to piss me off. Other than that no voice

[glacial knot]

I still have some difference I can't do with just motion. e.g. put lights to full brightness on cold white for cleaning

[last dirge]

I have shitty motion coverage

might buy some of the Inovelli multi-sensors to test them out

[glacial knot]

helps when you only got a couple rooms 🙂

[last dirge]

@tidal bronze do you have the motion configured only in HA or turned on at the switch too?

[tidal bronze]

Motion is used in HA and disengaged in the switches

Hallways was not easy with GE smart motion so had to add a few more to get full coverage. But will never go back to battery motion

[last dirge]

can you use those switches as companions?

my upstairs hall is a 4-way and the line is at the bottom of the stairs

[tidal bronze]

Yes but I only use them as motion companions, since no one uses the physical switch pretty easy in my use case.

In companion mode traveler use low voltage, So you would need live/neutral at all those locations just to power the motion.

[last dirge]

I don't think I've got that

were you getting delay with battery motion?

[tidal bronze]

No, just a headache with batteries. GE detection is super accurate also.

[last dirge]

I need to order a bunch of dimmable LED bulbs

the ones I put all over the house 9 years ago aren't dimmable

[tidal bronze]

Let me know if you find good ones. Stuff on amazon is crap.

[last dirge]

I was going to order from 1000bulbs

[scenic radish]

I like the Philips warmglow line

[tidal bronze]

Gotta try something new for sure. They start ramping good the first year then PWM drivers take a shit and uneven levels.

[scenic radish]

Been using some of these ones for 4+ years

[tidal bronze]

You mean Phillips ?