the-water-cooler

[green inlet]

I can only sleep in a bed but …. In a bed, I could likely sleep through a cat 5 hurricane.

[glacial knot]

I can't sleep when I'm moving. other than that, I have no issues

[orchid rose]

I've sleep-walked in the past. It's weird af

[umbral cliff]

I can sleep on a plane and in a bed and that’s about it lol

[green inlet]

Ha…when I was a kid I used to sleep walk all the time. Spent the night at a friends house one time and slept walked out the front door and down the street.

[glacial knot]

I need to get work to pay for a business flight at some point to see whether I can sleep laying down in planes 🤔

[young sigil]

All that (minus non existent sprog) plus sleeping on an icebreaker crashing through ice.

[orchid rose]

I was sleeping in a car as a kid (I think I had a fight with someone so I stormed out) and then had walked back in during the night while sleeping. Also once walked and slept in my brother's bed instead for some unknown reason. He was confused

[clear ferry]

That sounds fun, I'll do it

[clear ferry]

I've sleepwalked 800m once, down two stairs, across a field, in new Zealand

[young sigil]

Plus sleeping in clothes soaked in fish bits working 24 hour shifts (3 on, 6 off) on a trawler.

[clear ferry]

I usually sleep on my morning flights, 50m power nap, fall asleep before take off, wake up when landing

[green inlet]

I wish I could sleep on planes and in cars….would make traveling so much nicer 🤣. Whenever we travel, entire car occupants asleep but me

[clear ferry]

When i go to the US i always time my sleeping

So it fits the new timezone

[green inlet]

So you can get here and immediately start eating wings

[umbral cliff]

Depends on the airline. Some are crap some are good for their beds

[clear ferry]

[umbral cliff]

Some never decided to actually pad the backs well enough….

[green inlet]

One year I flew so much I got upgraded a couple times. Other than that, I am always in cattle class

[clear ferry]

I seldom get upgraded, but I don't mind, economy is good enough on most airlines

Heck, it's still luxury on Qatar or Thai

[glacial knot]

it's more the vibration than any kind of comfort in the actual seat that's an issue for me

[clear ferry]

The vibrations are so good

Probably the same reason I sleep well in DCs

[green inlet]

I am too tall for economy.

On a long flight

[umbral cliff]

Say that until the metal bars of the seat dig into every body part

[clear ferry]

How tall are you? I'm 185cm and 125kgs

I fit fine in economy

On regular airlines

[green inlet]

6’4”

Don’t know cm

230 lbs

[clear ferry]

193

It seems

https://tenor.com/view/short-fight-tall-gif-21229601

[umbral cliff]

So far only emirates have upgraded me for free. I’m now on 3 times for business class to first class

[hushed basalt]

https://c.tenor.com/yyxGIrMz0rYAAAAM/screaming-yelling.gif

[green inlet]

Yes, first class is nice.

[umbral cliff]

Champagne when travelling is fun

(Also having lounge access before every flight is a bonus - have that for life)

(Life of the airline or life of me is up for debate)

[green inlet]

Yea, I don’t do champagne. Just looking for a bad headache afterwards with that stuff

[umbral cliff]

I don’t get a headache with champagne. It’s nice

[strange crag]

🤢

[glacial knot]

just don't drink 3 bottlesof it

[green inlet]

I have a better solution. Just don’t drink it.

I was drinking moonshine the other night (special occasion), woke up in better shape after drinking that 😜

[clear ferry]

I never drink when travelling

I do when I have sleepovers at work

[umbral cliff]

Yeah stop at 2.5

[tidal bronze]

Why not use a card that bridges the gap for upgrades.

[clear ferry]

I don't fly enough for it to make sense in any way

Nor long haul enough

[dawn prawn]

I remember a taxi driver in Bodø telling me it’s so isolated there and they are so far away from anything. I was like ‘oi c***, I have to fly for 8-24 hours to get to another country, you can fly to another in 30 minutes.’

[clear ferry]

It only takes 100 minutes for me to get to the UK which is nixe

[scenic radish]

Is it though?

[clear ferry]

Sweden is just 70 minutes by car

[scenic radish]

[clear ferry]

[dawn prawn]

Looking for recommendations of android fones if anyone cares to help convince me to leave apple

[clear ferry]

I love my OnePlus 8 Pro

[dawn prawn]

Sounds like Chinese malware

[clear ferry]

Only great stuff there is

After the US destroyed Huawei

Their own OS is supposed to be good though

[dawn prawn]

I prefer not to buy Chinese tbh - I guess that leaves me with Samsung?

[clear ferry]

Bloatware hell

[dawn prawn]

Yah I know

[clear ferry]

Apple prices too

[dawn prawn]

Google? Who makes those?

[clear ferry]

Depends on the gen

[dawn prawn]

Pixie 6?

Asus, LG and Sony are not made in China so I guess I could look there

[clear ferry]

Are you sure about that

The iPhone is made in China too

[orchid rose]

Avoiding any Chinese parts will be rather difficult, but if the OS isn't theirs, the only one spying is probably NSA

[clear ferry]

NSA is always spying

[orchid rose]

I'm like my Xiaomi though

[clear ferry]

I was gonna buy a Xiaomi, but the cameras disappointed me

[orchid rose]

oh indeed, it's either just NSA or NSA and Chyna. I don't care either way

Cameras are the best part about mine. It doesn't have a selfie camera

[clear ferry]

Which one?

[orchid rose]

(well it's motorized and never used)

9T Pro from a few years ago

[clear ferry]

Ah

Interesting design

[dawn prawn]

Hence why I won’t buy another

[clear ferry]

I looked at the 10 and 11, but the camera was shitty compared to the OnePlus

[dawn prawn]

I just want to avoid supporting a business who manufactures in China

[clear ferry]

So not buying any commercial product from the last 20 years

Got you

[dawn prawn]

It starts today fren

[clear ferry]

Or any product the next 40 years either then

Got you

[dawn prawn]

I think the global supply chains are going to change dramatically in the next 5-10

[clear ferry]

Towards China, yes

[dawn prawn]

It’s been a big concern in the last 3-5 years and I’m already seeing a trend in moving away from them for items related to a nations critical needs

I just wish we’d stop selling them our iron ore

[clear ferry]

So 0.5% of all consumer electronics then

I can keep going

[orchid rose]

Is this like Linux becoming mainstream in a few years for decades now 🙂

Or fusion power being ready in 20-30 years

[tidal bronze]

The new one plus looks nice

[clear ferry]

They are getting a lot of bad noise for merging their two Operating systems

But it is mostly the fanbois

So

[tidal bronze]

If samsung does not release a phone this year with s pen I will be switching

[clear ferry]

Samsung used to be great, the last few gens have been very disappointing and the bloat is so big

[orchid rose]

Wasn't the Galaxy line always known for its bloat?

[clear ferry]

The wife bought the S20 FE, it's great though

[tidal bronze]

I use the s pen a lot. So always been a note for me. They are getting better with bloat.

[dawn prawn]

Hah?

[orchid rose]

That's how I remember it from the S4 or so days. Maybe I'm wrong

[tidal bronze]

You are correct.

[dawn prawn]

Ah yeah s4 was the last non iPhone I had

It was fuckin horrid

I dumped the chick I was with for telling me to buy that phone

[clear ferry]

I did s2-s3-mate7-p9pro-p20pro-a71-op8pro

[tidal bronze]

BTW how is RCS deployment going in EU?

[clear ferry]

We've had rcs for years

2017 I think

Or 18

[tidal bronze]

Integrated with GM?

[clear ferry]

Yes

[tidal bronze]

Hmmm.

[clear ferry]

Telenor was one of the first to implement it in the world

According to an article

[tidal bronze]

I thought it was 2019 oh well

[clear ferry]

Norwegian article said they turned it off in 2019 for a while

To fix some bugs

[tidal bronze]

They have long ways to go but GM beta app is pretty good.

[glacial knot]

what's RCS and GM in this context?

[tidal bronze]

GM google messages, RCS you gotta google

[glacial knot]

ahh, that stuff

I'm not sure if anyone I know uses it

[tidal bronze]

It has to be carrier supported as well.

[umbral cliff]

Apple is holding out stupidly

[clear ferry]

I've used it since 2019 at least

It's on by default in Norway

[tidal bronze]

I don't think they have to do anything. They have the market cornered. Google is just chasing. But at least chasing is good.

[clear ferry]

Same with voice over LTE / WiFi

[umbral cliff]

I honestly don’t text anyone except tradies so I don’t need it

I use other apps

[umbral cliff]

We’ve had that since 2014/2015 I think

[clear ferry]

Same here

[umbral cliff]

For mobile stuff australia is actually really good leaders

[tidal bronze]

Yep for years.

@umbral cliff you guys have bad coverage thought

[umbral cliff]

No?

[clear ferry]

I heard in the US the carriers sometimes only let you do voice over LTE / WiFi with their locked phones

[umbral cliff]

We have coverage for pretty much most of the populated area

4G covers all that, 5G now 50% or more with telstra

[tidal bronze]

Hard to maintain a call when driving and public transport. Drops always

[clear ferry]

No issues with that here

[glacial knot]

most of the populated area, aka 5%

[umbral cliff]

Never had that for me

[glacial knot]

that's Germany =.=

[umbral cliff]

Yeah but you don’t need it in the middle of the desert, that’s what a sat phone is for

[tidal bronze]

Voice over wifi is good but still prefer old method when call conferencing and switching. Sucks when you have 4 or 5 calls

[clear ferry]

Lol conferencing by phone

Long live teams

[umbral cliff]

VoLTE is important given it’s the only way to make calls nowadays. Since 3G is basically dead

[glacial knot]

LOL Teams

[umbral cliff]

It’s cursed in the browser. I want my work laptop to get out of that shit

[clear ferry]

They are turning off 2g here now I think

[glacial knot]

they have a while ago I think

[clear ferry]

3g is already dead afaik

[umbral cliff]

Only now? Weird

[tidal bronze]

Teams ?

[umbral cliff]

We lost 2G years ago

[glacial knot]

At least some of the channels, to make room for 5G

[umbral cliff]

Became 3/4/5G frequencies

[umbral cliff]

MS Teams. Basically Skypes and skype for business replacement

[tidal bronze]

Sometimes you gotta talk to people in other trades you know. Lol

[glacial knot]

horrible conferencing software, but ties Office365 sharing functions nicely together

[clear ferry]

Supports 450 users in real-time, 40k in live streams, scales well

[umbral cliff]

At work we’re only allowed to use teams, even zoom if that’s the clients preferred software is iffy

[clear ferry]

Trades stuck in the 80s yeah

[tidal bronze]

Do you get your air traffic control people in Teams as well? Lmao

[clear ferry]

They do for internal meetings yes

[glacial knot]

we had that issue with LG. Before Teams had a usable Linux client =.= so they couldn't use zoom and we couldn't use teams

[tidal bronze]

Always faster to make a call. 😆

[clear ferry]

Not really

[glacial knot]

not at all

call via phone takes me longer than teams or zoom

[clear ferry]

I can click a single button on my phone or desktop and make a call

[glacial knot]

and all 3 incoming go to the same phone either way. So that doesn't make a difference either

[tidal bronze]

None of that makes sense for scenarios that I work in.

[clear ferry]

It will automatically call phone if teams is offline too

[dawn prawn]

I prefer to stand up and walk to their desk - very dominating to the teams beta males in the office

[glacial knot]

good luck trying to get in my flat

[dawn prawn]

I didn’t say onlyfans

[glacial knot]

are you drunk?

[dawn prawn]

Yes

[glacial knot]

k

[dawn prawn]

k

[clear ferry]

I think I had two physical phone calls in 2021

[umbral cliff]

ATC here are Microsoft based so they would

[clear ferry]

Probably 4 in 2020

[dawn prawn]

What’s your number? I could be first for 2022

[glacial knot]

I had 0 from/for work and like 5 others

[tidal bronze]

@umbral cliff have you tried reaching to ATC to get a flight waiver on teams ? If you have kudos.

[clear ferry]

My mobile or teams phone number? Both go to my phone anyway @dawn prawn

[glacial knot]

legacy phone calling is legacy

[dawn prawn]

🤔 I wanna get physical

[umbral cliff]

That stuff shouldn’t need more than a 1:1 call anyways

[clear ferry]

I do love having an actual phone number tied to my teams

[tidal bronze]

Apples and oranges

[clear ferry]

Practical to call old farts like @tidal bronze

[tidal bronze]

You ain't that young playa

[clear ferry]

At least I'm not calling in to phone conferences

[umbral cliff]

I’ve had a lot of actual phone calls, but that’s mainly talking to my parents. Or if I need to urgently get in touch with my partner. Or for stuff relating to my job in the hiring process. Plus the occasional tradie or other service that needs a phone call. All 1:1 though

[tidal bronze]

You said you are not a people person so

[clear ferry]

I ain't

[glacial knot]

My Mom calls me on zoom

[clear ferry]

My mom calls us on facetime

And my fil, who is 82

[glacial knot]

🦆ing apple time

[umbral cliff]

My mum doesn’t know how to screenshot so basic phone calls it is

[tidal bronze]

@umbral cliff my case of use is totally different. Like I said apples and oranges.

[glacial knot]

we've set my grandma up with zoom, so we can remote help with screen share when she doesn't know how to use her computer

[umbral cliff]

Plus I refuse to use zoom unless it’s on prem hosting too

[dawn prawn]

My grandma has a landline - and she leaves it off the hook so she doesn’t get disturbed

[glacial knot]

Why?

[umbral cliff]

Just don’t trust it

And I have free access to on prem from uni so why not if I needed it

[glacial knot]

I don't care if anyone gets my employers data ¯_(ツ)_/¯

as long as I can't be faulted for it, that is. I do care about my own ass

[umbral cliff]

Yeah my zoom is hosted by my uni, haven’t lost access yet for the full on prem service

[glacial knot]

just use big blue button

[dawn prawn]

Zoomers

[glacial knot]

bloomers

[tidal bronze]

RCS to grandma, perfect

[clear ferry]

Lol hitman

I loved those games

20 years ago

[shadow prawn]

Does anyone have an actual lg oled? Do they any burn in avoiding actions when they‘re turned off but still powered? I am considering to buy one and power it on and off through a zigbee power plug.

[static schooner]

I believe that the trigger is turning the TV off, and then it takes quite a while to complete its cycle. If you just pull power, I don't think it will be able to do it

[shadow prawn]

Maybe it‘s detectable through power measuring?

[static schooner]

so you won't turn it off if it's doing it?

no idea if you can detect, or if you could force it to check

[last cedar]

I have an E6, 65 inch

No burn in issues

I use wake on lan via cable to turn it on, and the integrations off command to turn it off, no need for power plug, and if the TV is still doing stuff, it isn't completely dead

[dusky plank]

don‘t do it.
this is how the models at a tv store usually live (or live miserably). oled does not like getting turned off fast

[shadow prawn]

Then i should consider not buying one 😂

[static schooner]

you should consider letting it do its thing

[dusky plank]

you can root webos

and have a shutdown script

[glacial knot]

do you have hared power limits, or why do you want to force it off?

needs to measure standby power of the zigbee plug at some point

[shadow prawn]

I probably dont use the os on the tv and if something is off it doesnt do crazy stuff

Lile turning on in the middle of the night playing spotify on full volume cause some of your friends started it through spotify connect

[dusky plank]

thats a lie

nobody here has friends

[glacial knot]

just don't connect it to the internet then

[shadow prawn]

I have an power plug for measuring that and i have tweaked my rasperry pi zero 2w to drain 0.2W less through deactivating their hdmi port, they‘re headless anyway and running 24/7

[shadow prawn]

How to turn it on and off then

[dusky plank]

locally?

[glacial knot]

CEC?

[dusky plank]

you need internet to turn your tv on? wtf?

[glacial knot]

IR remote?

[shadow prawn]

To use power on over ethernet and a script to turn it off, yes i would need a connection to the router.

[glacial knot]

which isn't internet 😉

[dusky plank]

power over ethernet is something completely different overall

[glacial knot]

I think someone mentioned WoL

[shadow prawn]

Already considered that to do it with an infrared blaster but thats all so complicated compared to the simple power plug thing

[glacial knot]

but won't run into issues with the TV self care

[dusky plank]

usually tvs which do not power off fully immediately also respond to pings while being on

also you can automate with a offset

no tv in the world should take more than 20 minutes to turn off

[shadow prawn]

That was the idea with power measurement, the lg oleds do a pixel refreshing cycle which can take an hour

[dusky plank]

they do that after... like... 600 hours

and you get a notification for that

[shadow prawn]

I have to further investigate this topic

[dusky plank]

if you get a oled, you definitely should

[shadow prawn]

Don‘t want to have to use ten remotes

Yeah up to now i have a cold cathode flatscreen weighing a ton but only had cost a 50 bucks, but i can heat my room with it and the size with 42 inches is not enough anymore

But it doesnt get killed by a little power outage 😂

[orchid rose]

I have you guys

[shadow prawn]

ForerverAlone.jpg

[shadow prawn]

These are some serious first world problems 🙈

[finite atlas]

the easy solution against oled burn in is, dont let it run at full brightness all day long with static stuff on it

[orchid rose]

That's rather impossible if you have favorite channels with bright logos. I'm looking at you here Viasat/Viaplay....

[glacial knot]

linear broadcast 😂

[orchid rose]

I haven't seen how oleds work with it, but Plasmas hated these... https://i.imgur.com/VbcRci1.png

[glacial knot]

yea, football sucks

[orchid rose]

football is life

[shadow prawn]

Time needs to come that micro led is affordable

[orchid rose]

How long did it take oled? 10 years?

[clear ferry]

[static schooner]

long enough that atx had hair when it started

[clear ferry]

Well, I only started shaving my head four years ago, so not that long

[orchid rose]

Nah man, that's when you accepted it. When it happened was before that

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-peralta-jake-peralta-b99-brooklyn-nine-nine-gif-8793716

[static schooner]

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/111795-oled-tvs-are-hot-at-ces-but-are-nothing-more-than-a-technological-pipe-dream

lol

2012

Unfortunately, LG’s “breakthrough” appears to be more of the same Real Soon Now rhetoric we’ve been hearing for the past seven years. Even if the company brings this 55″ titan to market — and thus far, LG has only coyly stated that it “may” be available by Q4 2012 — it wouldn’t be a turning point in OLED’s readiness for the mainstream market.

55" titan

[orchid rose]

That aged like atx

[static schooner]

it's pretty funny to read while watching my 4K 65" LG OLED

[orchid rose]

oh I was actually going to apologize for being rude, but something got into me

[static schooner]

it's quite dismissive of the tech being commercially viable

[orchid rose]

Hindsight is always 20-20

Or like someone put it, it's easy to underestimate the change in short-term and overestimate it in the long-term. To me that seems accurate

[lofty orchid]

Hello, we are using home assistant to automated my friend's small computer museum. We started last year and have slowly but surely been making progress. Here is a demo I recorded today that shows the introduction and first computer. The gist of it is there's a tof sensor in the door, a pi 3 on the adm31 it uses a webhook to pick the tour type. We use shell commands for playing the videos on the TV which is also a pi 3.

The way it started was I made a couple home assistants, one to monitor my parents vacation home and one for me to play with. I learned everything I needed from them and then it came to me to use it for the museum for the tts and to control outlets and whatnot

[clear ferry]

Maybe I should donate to this museum, but my 2004 hardware is way too new, I'll try to scavage any 80/90s Unix systems i see

[lofty orchid]

My friends rule is it has to be at least 20 years old

[clear ferry]

I might know of a Alphaserver 1000, but it is still in full production

[lofty orchid]

Lol wow that's dedication

[clear ferry]

I do know of some hp 3000s too

They are probably dead by now

There are definitely k class HP-UX boxes in production still

Too bad i threw out that vax 7000

[lofty orchid]

I learned how to do the terminal stuff with my home assistant and vt220. Literally prototyped it all on mine and mine has more features. I have connected the vt220 to Google assistant via ifttt I wrote a python script that takes a string and renders it in ASCII on the terminal so all I have to do is say terminal show... and the text will show on the terminal.

[clear ferry]

Never used a vt220, used a lot of vt100 compatibles though

More hp terminals though

I do love me some green

This is the good stuff

This should fit in to the museum fine

https://youtu.be/Eae7-Kazpfk

[shadow prawn]

Looks nice

[lofty orchid]

This is my voice command, we are thinking of trying to work it into the tour by saying "bye name(s) I hope you enjoyed the tour" to render goodbye name(s) on the adm31.

[clear ferry]

I love it

[forest edge]

lol i miss the 80's

[sand trail]

OMG! The vulcanic eruption close to Tonga is visible even in europe 🤯

the pressure wave must have shown up on barometric sensors all over the world

[proven spruce]

yes it did

[forest edge]

meh let me know when something happens that causes this

https://tenor.com/view/shock-wave-ellen-page-vanya-hargreeves-the-umbrella-academy-super-powers-gif-18225351

[tidal bronze]

You have never seen sea, what are you worried about ?

[forest edge]

hey I seen the altantic and gulf of mexico

[tidal bronze]

Nopes can't believe that.

[forest edge]

I been to 3 sides of the states.. just gonorrhea and syphilis was too rampant on the pacific side for me to visit at the time

[tidal bronze]

Never knew you were into that street stuff. Well now we know.

[forest edge]

lol street stuff?

[tidal bronze]

Street art ?

[static schooner]

Tacos. I'm sure he meant tacos

[forest edge]

thought he was refering to STD's as if anyone ever goes to california for the nature sights.. you go for the.. other sights

well use to, now you go and all you get is surrounded by homeless begging for a dollar

[umbral cliff]

Same as how phones larger than 4-5” then were huge. And now they’re normal

[tidal bronze]

Tacos or pupusa?@forest edge

[finite atlas]

yeah, i remember that i once saw 6" phone 6 years ago and thought it was huge, now nearly anyone has one that size

[static schooner]

I thought the first galaxy note was ridiculously gigantic

[forest edge]

never had pupusa

[tidal bronze]

I kinda figured.

[forest edge]

we don't get the street vendors here like bigger cities do like NY etc

we have some truck vendors, it might be on one of those but never in any of the mexican joints I been in

[tidal bronze]

Once you have good pupusa, you are never bitter, very mellow and always happy.

[forest edge]

I thought it was mexican food, not marijuana bread

[tidal bronze]

El Salvador is not Mexico 🙁

[strange crag]

@lofty orchid Any exidy sorcerers in that museum?

[forest edge]

sorry food generally dosen't have "originated from" printed on it

[tidal bronze]

Well now you know

[forest edge]

I know it's gonna be more rare now lol

[green inlet]

Arepa

[lofty orchid]

Unfortunately no

[tidal bronze]

Little grumpy. Landed In LA last night at 8PM and got on a flight at 2PM today. Weekend plans out the window 😕

[forest edge]

oh no, what is that pile of new audio equipment gonna do now that you won't have time to man handle it

[tidal bronze]

Was excited about installing a zwave shut-off valve. Last thing to automate in the house. Well that has to wait.

[forest edge]

I really don't know how you can spend half your life on planes

when the earth explodes and we're all hurled into space your gonna be the only one comfortable during the whole process

[umbral cliff]

Planes are fun to be on

[tidal bronze]

Hitting million miles in 10 years not easy. 😆

[umbral cliff]

Shut off valve for what?

And hmm wish I had a way to calculate how many miles flown

[forest edge]

and after you retire you find out excess flight exposure causes penis shrinkage

[tidal bronze]

Main water shut-off for the house.

[umbral cliff]

I’ve done about 300-500k miles since 2016 so I’m probably over 1 mil by now total lifetime

[umbral cliff]

Ah in case of leaks?

[forest edge]

he lives in barren sand desert.. water is high commodity

a single leak could cost him thousands

[tidal bronze]

Nice. Gotta hit 1 mil in 10 and keep my current status for life.

[umbral cliff]

I’ve already kept my status for life, got gold for lifetime now, and thanks to Covid will keep platinum renewed till 2023 lol

[tidal bronze]

Awesome

What airline ? Skyteam?

[umbral cliff]

Honestly gonna be very useful for if I have to travel for work, I’m not gonna be travelling enough to retain any status levels I imagine (especially since it’ll be mostly domestic economy) but now I don’t need to retain anything

[umbral cliff]

Qantas so oneworld

[tidal bronze]

Oh

[umbral cliff]

why oh 😂

[tidal bronze]

Don't fly to that part of the world much. US EU and China.

That's a night airline. Flown once or twice.

[umbral cliff]

See oneworld also is in Europe/ USA/ China too so have that (British airways, Finnair, Cathay pacific, American Airlines, Alaska, and a few more)

[forest edge]

patient zero with covid, you heard it here first

[umbral cliff]

Plus qantas is buddies with emirates so I get equal treatment there too

I mainly fly domestically or used to fly to Singapore/ China/ London over the last 10 years

[tidal bronze]

@umbral cliff the did status match me don't remember what it's called since I am a diamond 😆

[umbral cliff]

Status matches are the best 😂

Virgin australia did a status challenge, then Covid hit and they converted it into a full status for me without flying. And I’ve had it auto renewed for a couple years now

So I’m covered on both domestic airlines here lmao

[tidal bronze]

I do Amex + diamond. Win win. Can clear upgrades over diamond. Best of all the world's. Sadly after sometime things get old.

[forest edge]

you ever bought anything from the skymall?

[umbral cliff]

I still love flying, why I got my pilots licence. So I dont think it’s something I could ever really get too tired of lol

[tidal bronze]

Never. Lol

Remote flying is stress enough for me. Few more years and I am done.

Same damn first class menu that does not change in ages, same crap lounge food, same damn airports. Yep it gets old. I will take a taco truck over lounge food all day. 😆

[umbral cliff]

Lounge food is great though. Hot freshly made stuff

With other food brought around occasionally

In Melbourne domestically there’s a Asian food area (eg chicken rice, noodle dish, etc) it’s good

[forest edge]

you are grumpy.. go drink some jack n coke

[tidal bronze]

Yes fresh and hot, taste well that's my problem 😆

[umbral cliff]

Food I’ve had usually tastes decently

Not international first class lounge level, but better than most cafes in the airport still

International first is basically like a damn restaurant, order off a menu all custom made just for you. Tasty food. All free of course

[tidal bronze]

I agree compared ro other cafes but my issue is its subpar. Even centurion lounge or clubhouse

[umbral cliff]

Do you get hot freshly made food in the us lounges? I’ve seen pictures (and once entered the American Airlines lounge) and it seemed like it was mostly dry food (crackers, biscuits, etc)

Also heard you have to pay for drinks in the lounge too?

[tidal bronze]

Check out Delta or Amex Centurion

[umbral cliff]

As in they’re good? Or paid?

[tidal bronze]

https://thecenturionlounge.com/ good first 3 or 4 times. Then same old crap is what my point is.

All free.

[tidal bronze]

No I am not. Lol. Just being honest.

[umbral cliff]

The lounge I access the most is the qantas first lounge (though that has been ages since I was there), and that had a menu change each season which would keep things new

Domestic is a little repetitive, though the snacks that are brought around usually change on a cycle

[dire viper]

Hi! I'm a total rookie to IOT stuff, but I'm medicre at programming and good at networking (as in, TCP/IP).

I currently have a hue bridge in my home, but I'm unsure if that serves any purpose for this project.
Could anyone guide me to the right direction as far as suggested smartplugs, integrations and/or additional equipment I would need to make this "AND gate over internet" work?

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge what's Jack?

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-daniels-whiskey-drinks-gif-13033480

[tidal bronze]

Oh boy.

[forest edge]

the coke is what makes it bearable lol

[tidal bronze]

Finally we are in agreement. Probably 25 years since I tested that disaster

[forest edge]

whisky is just whisky lol

[tidal bronze]

Never.

[orchid rose]

oh no Sonoma. You're triggering me

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge everything with alcohol is not like the moonshine you have in KC

[forest edge]

i've kind of given up on bland alcohol. long ice tea's is fine.. even drink some wine coolers as of late lol

we seem to keep some of this in the fridge.. the woman likes it https://www.mikeshard.com/

[tidal bronze]

It takes time to man up to whiskey. In due time GTS.

[forest edge]

been there, done that.. i'm on the other side of that bell curve my boy

[proven spruce]

Bland alcohol 🤔

[forest edge]

you just wake up and realize.. why the hell am i drinking something bitter when I could be enjoying fruit

[brisk glen]

Honey whisky is goood

[tidal bronze]

If you are drinking coolers you are definitely behind a bell boy.

[forest edge]

trust me, you start with fruity and end with fruity

[proven spruce]

If it doesn't taste of burnt rubber and band aids it's not a drink

[forest edge]

the hard bland crap sits in the middle

[orchid rose]

I know what you mean by the bell curve but I wouldn't want to fall all the way down to where whisky+coke was acceptable...

[tidal bronze]

That is VERY clear.

[proven spruce]

Might as well give up on breathing then

[forest edge]

jack n coke is not that bad, but yea

better than being a wino

[orchid rose]

Outside of the two syringes I've never tried corona and don't plan to either. Even with how much I love lime, that just sounds terrible

[proven spruce]

Syringes?

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/corona-virus-corona-cerveza-time-beer-cheers-gif-16560385

[tidal bronze]

Corona is not bad, good while waiting for a car detail.

[finite atlas]

i saw how the orange guy catched up with the others!

[forest edge]

corona and heineken is mostly all I ever drank when I was younger. every so often would toss in whisky, vodka and tequila. course the one time I ate lasagna and then got shit faced off tequila that had the little gold flakes in and vomited what I thought was blood was the last time I did that with tequila

[tidal bronze]

Lmao. So you can't handle real alcohol. You are excused. No need to explain or anymore life stories. It's not for everyone buddy.

[forest edge]

how mnay fiths have you finished in one night?

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge too much coffee.

[forest edge]

i am not a coffee person

everyone in my family etc is but I just never got into that

coffee addiction and gambling addiction is the two things I skipped on genetic wise lol

[sharp spire]

hey does anyone have a sleepnumber bed with the foundation features like lights or movement?

[forest edge]

not sure what you mean by lights but my mom has one that the bed tilts up if thats what you mean by movement

[sharp spire]

some of them have lights on the side or the bottom

trying to make updates to the API lib, but I don't have that model

[forest edge]

I didn't know they connected via wifi

[sharp spire]

yeah they have all sorts of cool metrics

at least newer ones do

[tidal bronze]

Can you control it ?

[sharp spire]

yeah

[forest edge]

I don't think my mom's has wifi, it's fancy but must be the model just below super fancy lol

[sharp spire]

if it moves, it's fancy enough to have wifi- now whether they set it up is another matter

[tidal bronze]

I meant can you control via HA as is?

[sharp spire]

oh, no

that's what I'm working to fix

[tidal bronze]

Got it. Been running costco split BT model for years works with HA like a charm. So you always have that way is this fails.

[sharp spire]

but it'd be cool to add light entities as well for the lights

just mine doesn't have lights so I don't know how the api shows them as supported

[forest edge]

wtf do you have HA do to your bed?

[sharp spire]

it can tell if it's occupied

so that's cool for triggering stuff

[tidal bronze]

Move, lounge, read modes etc

Mainly reset the bed with GA

[forest edge]

lol read modes

bed is for sleeping and boinking.. buy a damn chair

[sharp spire]

well if someone has one that's web-connected and can give me a screenshot of the api output, that'd be great

[tidal bronze]

Chair? I will never understand farm life.

[forest edge]

lol you don't know what a chair is and you call me farm life?

[tidal bronze]

Reading + chair, 🤔

[forest edge]

you know that came off as, "wait.. people can sit and read at the same time?! 🤯 "

here, so you know what it is for..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dlqsx__VAAIRxLW.jpg

[tidal bronze]

Now it all makes sense. Time to get moving. 25 minutes to land.

[forest edge]

moving? they make you run laps around the plane prior to touchdown?

[sharp spire]

maybe he's on a boat and has to row

[tidal bronze]

Wheelwell to the seat takes time.

Damn too much ☕️

[tidal bronze]

That's normal on internal Chinese flights. You should try it sometime.

[forest edge]

I can totally see you doing that "morning workout" routine they show them doing in movies

[tidal bronze]

No warning, suddenly everyone is waving like they just don't care. Wakes you up in total shock 😆

[forest edge]

fuck that lol

cannot get over how quiet these new dryers are

[strange crag]

thats why you need them hooked up to HA to tell you that the cycle ha finished 😉

[umbral cliff]

Or you know, get up and look

Sonoma needs his exercise

[strange crag]

Well in that case Sonoma forget what I said 😉

[forest edge]

they are hooked up to HA via ThinQ

but don't really use it much, the woman uses the app

[umbral cliff]

‘The woman’, that the kind name for your wife?

[forest edge]

au equivalent of sheila

[sharp spire]

my dryer is "smart" in that is has NFC access

[strange crag]

what good is nfc? You have to be near it for nfc to work soyou might as well look at the time left.

[umbral cliff]

Might be NFC to connect to it then can view from a distance?

[strange crag]

Would then have to use some other method. I can't see any benefits to be had from nfc in this instance.

[umbral cliff]

A lot of things use it to simplify the pairing process though. Tap on it and it pairs via Bluetooth or something

[errant path]

Hey is this the right way to say, if my husband or I aren’t home, or it’s between 1-6:30am, turn on this light when triggered?

[static schooner]

That's a new one. A screen shot of a phone screen, complete with keyboard

[velvet horizon]

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[forest edge]

@errant pathyou will wanna ask that in #automations-archived

[errant path]

Oo thanks!

[umbral cliff]

I can provide a screenshot of a phone screen with keyboard and having a PiP window taking up 1/3 of the screen lol

[shadow prawn]

Time for coffee

[restive vapor]

How many pins are actually useable on esp8266

[forest edge]

Holy shit they decided to covid test random deer that get hit by cars and found most of them were covid positive. really the only way a wild deer could get infected would be animal to animal transmission so now they are fearing that covid is just spreading like crazy through wild animals and might eventually just come back to us in a whole new form

[solemn parcel]

one thing comes to mind ... "oh deer" ":P

[umbral cliff]

Source?

Part of me wonders if it’s just human contamination too

Or if wildlife already had coronavirus inside them and they just don’t often spread to humans

[clear ferry]

Depends on the device, somewhere between 1 and 200

[forest edge]

this is one of the things. i don't remember what the article i read that went more indepth was at https://youtu.be/PQiy9lTwAI4

sad animals get it. the ticker on that video states the lions at the zoo were more sick than the staff

everyone is going to be like "yay we finally got over covid and back to normal" then some super mutated strain from animals is going to kill off the human population within a week out of nowere

[shadow prawn]

Song of the cantina band starts playing

[finite atlas]

xD

[orchid rose]

Flu (influenza) is a coronavirus that keeps coming back different all the time so it can definitely happen with Covid too which is named SARS2. I don't know it's directly related to SARS or not or why it was named like that

[dawn prawn]

So are they making temporary deer morgues and have a backlog at the deer crematorium?

[glacial knot]

SARS is more of a description of symptoms.
I think they are related, but not close enough to really matter

[orchid rose]

I see, thanks

[umbral cliff]

From wikipedia: 'A virus very similar to SARS was discovered in late 2019. This virus, named severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), is the causative pathogen of COVID-19, the propagation of which started the COVID-19 pandemic'

[clear ferry]

Snacks, i ate one

[orchid rose]

Something's wrong with you

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/a-lot-adam-engvid-frequently-all-the-time-gif-23851253

[umbral cliff]

You only just figured that out?

[orchid rose]

It just reminded me of that

[dusky plank]

hey that is bacon

i eat that raw too

who doesnt?

[orchid rose]

normal people

[finite atlas]

i side with mr k

[dusky plank]

https://images.ichkoche.at/data/image/variations/496x384/12/handl-tiroler-brettljause-img-113290.jpg

you have no idea 🤤

[finite atlas]

oh i do

but i prefer it cooked anyway

[dusky plank]

ok no wonder you also deal with pineapple on pizza

[orchid rose]

Ananas as it should be called is actually okay in a strong chili pizza. It's a very different dish then though

[shadow prawn]

Looks nice

But the picture lacks the glance of a beer belly

[clear ferry]

I drink 10 beers per year

My belly is solely based on fatty eating

[shadow prawn]

Well didn’t now what a „Wohlstandsplauze“ is called in english

[dusky plank]

im sure he knows what it means

he is the opposite of a geringverdiener

[shadow prawn]

Robert!

[clear ferry]

[green inlet]

Canadian bacon and pineapple pizza 💥 💥 💥

[heavy badge]

automated my c02 laser

[clever mortar]

If it's not attached to a shark you're not doing it right

[dusky plank]

stop it. get some help

[orchid rose]

But there's pizza and then there's "pizza". The latter is closer to a pie which doesn't make it bad but different

you don't want mozzarella and pineapple in the same dish. That's just disgusting

other cheeses, pepperoni, jalapenos - then pineapple is nice addition of sweet and sour to balance it out

with a thick crust too... I'm getting hungry

[dusky plank]

https://tenor.com/view/pineapple-pizza-pineapple-pizza-gif-18987338

[last cedar]

How many takes did that take?

[orchid rose]

Famously just one.

[last cedar]

Really?!

[static schooner]

was it intentional? It seemed like a hilarious accident in the show

[last cedar]

Confession

I only just watched through it all

Like, 3 months ago?

It was really depressing when || haha made you look ||

[orchid rose]

I don't know if it was intentional, but the producers did talk about it in the podcast multiple times 🙂

[last cedar]

It added some lines to the dialog at least

And an extra scene

[static schooner]

and I think has caused problems for the actual homeowners

[last cedar]

I wonder if any of the money was left in the vents

[orchid rose]

Sounds like a great time if it causes people to come and throw pizzas on your roof

[last cedar]

Only if no pineapple

[static schooner]

apparently, yes. All planned down to the details of it being unsliced: https://time.com/5695599/breaking-bad-pizza-scene-evolution/#:~:text=Vince Gilligan chimes in&text=“There is nothing original or,“It's been done before.

[orchid rose]

damn Michelle was faster

Apparently Francis and Louis hate pizza

[lilac ether]

hi! I want to build a birdhouse as a fun project with my daughter and I'd like to add a battery powered webcam to keep an eye on the possible nest. Does anyone know of a cheap battery powered camera that I could use for that? I don't know if commercial wifi cameras will work because they will probably be tune for focusing in the distance and they might not be able to record things happening very close.

[dusky plank]

#cameras-archived for good answers to this

[forest edge]

lots of videos that have people doing that

[dusky plank]

my blink camera detects bees infront of it and sends me videos of them

somehow bees like radio waves / energy

[lilac ether]

another question I should look at is if IR light can be seen by birds. I don't want to blind the chicks

[dusky plank]

i don't think they get bothered with ir lights

[harsh heath]

https://imgur.com/a/89ZfNiL

Gearing up for my first ever automation attempt. See y'all on the other side o7

[last cedar]

You forgot the automation for "omnipresent" @harsh heath

[clear ferry]

Did you call my child @last cedar

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-baby-baby-pool-cute-baby-sweet-baby-baby-gif-24130457

[harsh heath]

oh yeah, that'd be the 'set the room on fire'

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/theodoros-gif-18371963

I wonder if you should create an automation for if a raccoon breaks in, you can tell by if the doormat is stolen before someone enters, it is a raccoon. It would automatically open the fridge and freezer and turn the TV on

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-binatang-hewan-pencuri-curi-gif-11069677

[clear ferry]

[karmic frigate]

I don't know where to ask this question but is it safe to expose HA to the internet via an reverse proxy and SSL?

[static schooner]

As safe as your HA credentials

[clever mortar]

#general-archived can give you lots of advice on that

I've had HA exposed to the Internet for years now without any issues

[harsh heath]

if only my ISP wasn't a peepee, I'd even have exposed my a$$ to the internet

cgnat + ipv6 incoming blocked..

at least there's nabu casa for the HA

[umbral cliff]

Time to find a new isp

[harsh heath]

can't

student dorm

[umbral cliff]

Ah then that explains a lot

[harsh heath]

sweet gigabit connection

no hope for utilizing it other than tailscale etc

they even forbid wlan broadcasting without giving accessibility for IoT devices lol

[umbral cliff]

Thats not surprising at all

[harsh heath]

their network operates on 2.4/5ghz enterprise

[umbral cliff]

Its meant to be a secure enterprise level network usually. They can't trust students would set it up right

Most students would leave DHCP on breaking everything

[harsh heath]

yeah but this whole limitation could be easily solved by broadcasting seperate IoT network

[umbral cliff]

Which would defeat the purpose of the enterprise network, plus the fact that IoT devices are not secure which opens a vulnerability that could be used to exploit sensitive items at the university

[harsh heath]

stop telling me the facts

they hurt

[umbral cliff]

I've lived in student accomodation for high school and uni (so about 8-10 years) so I know the issues full well

This is where something like zigbee/ z-wave would shine though, being all reliant on the server not on wifi

[harsh heath]

Oh yeah definitely; I already have a shift towards them. However the ban on WLAN broadcasting is not enforced at all, so you could imagine; there's more networks being broadcasted than the actual number of people living here

So I jumped on the bandwagon, and being a bad person currently :)

I opted for wired connection wherever possible; and using 2.4 for the less capable devices

Running a router + 2 4-Port budget switches because of that

[umbral cliff]

Just be careful on that, they can have automation detecting if there’s multiple MAC addresses going across (cheap routers especially) which will kill your port

But yeah not surprised in the slightest tbh

[harsh heath]

Thanks for the hint; will check on that

[strange crag]

Can! - buy your own wireless modem. The fun starts when you want to connect to both networks 😉

[surreal smelt]

Is there a way to make the CTRL F action of the home assistant community forums behave, like, normal?

[shadow prawn]

Press a second time

[fallow karma]

Hello there

[harsh heath]

How would that work? The rooms have their dedicated routers with 4 LAN outputs

So no direct access to the fiber or something

[strange crag]

if youi buy yourself a wireless modem with an ISP account yoiu can set up all your stuff off that. Then if you need external access then link it to one of the dormitory ports. That way the uni only sees one mac address.

I use a netgear nighthawk, but there are others - probably better than this one too

I dont have your situation, but something like that would probably be what you need - if you can configure the wan link on your router to go to the uni 4 port router.

[harsh heath]

Well the Gigabit Connection they're supplying is free. Sooo......

But thanks for the advise

[umbral cliff]

Honestly not worth the pain and risk of that stuff

Just use zigbee stuff

[harsh heath]

yeah yeah, advantages are huge

shame the main competition is on the wifi-device market

Already bought myself the Conbee USB Zigbee and some sensors; they're working great

[clear ferry]

Ooof just a week til I'm back at work

2 month vacation over

[shadow prawn]

Oof

Why up so early then

[clear ferry]

Because i have to shuffle kids to kindergarten

[forest edge]

2 month vacation? did you pop one out yourself?

[clear ferry]

No, that is just my vacation and father at birth days

I still have 40 weeks of 100% paid leave

[glacial knot]

40 weeks? For both kids together?

[clear ferry]

No

Per kid

Because the wife is a student still i get all the leave

[clear ferry]

https://i.redd.it/yplk6t23ljd81.jpg

[harsh heath]

Oh my University would never figure it out for decades

they recently upgraded to 2000s design

[clear ferry]

School

[forest edge]

found the perfect gift for atx

https://youtu.be/YwwGHyesy0g

[clear ferry]

Oh, i had something similar to that

25 years ago

Or so

[late gate]

Am I crazy that got more cameras on my tortoises than the house?

A dilemma. It allowed to capture the street with a DOORBELL camera in Norway, but is this over the line? Should I mask, or just dont give a f? I use the doorbell as a constant stream

[clear ferry]

Is it allowed?

I'm pretty sure it isn't if it's a public road

[late gate]

doorbell IS allowed

for public road

but its kinda when the doorbell is pressed

so this is kinda a tip-tap around the law. its a doorbell, but nobody pressing it right now

The thing is that turn there is a problem when its slippery. People can slide into my 3 cars

so I kinda dont want to mask it

[glacial knot]

you have weird priorities if you need 3 cars and have no private lot to park them on o.0

[late gate]

Its private, but they can slide into them

And this is norway. properties with size of a stamp

unless you have a farm

[umbral cliff]

Still 3 cars though

[clear ferry]

lol small lots

I have room for 10 cars in my driveway

[clever mortar]

I have room on my drive for more cars than I own... that's all that matters to me 😛

[scenic radish]

I have room for 2 🎉

[light trout]

I'd say that is well over the line, and if you lived near me I would definitely report you

[clear ferry]

is that murica cars or japan cars @scenic radish

WE NEED TO KNOW

https://tenor.com/y953.gif

[scenic radish]

as a matter of fact, both of our cars are Japanese

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/bupW5.gif

[scenic radish]

Also, recording a public street is illegal in Norway?

[late gate]

yeah

[scenic radish]

Interesting...

[clear ferry]

no freedom

[light trout]

even private property is borderline due to our free to roam laws

[scenic radish]

AFAIK recording anywhere in public is legal where I'm at in the US as long as you don't record audio or both parties have consented to have audio recorded

[shadow prawn]

In Germany too i think (illegal)

[late gate]

should be legal to film the road at least

[scenic radish]

Or maybe the audio thing is on the phone, video call, etc. 🤔

[clear ferry]

don't see why that should be ever needed

[late gate]

but need to use masking here

[shadow prawn]

Sell the cars, no cars=no problems

[late gate]

I need the cars

[clear ferry]

use the garage

[late gate]

Its full of smart stuff

[clear ferry]

need a bigger garage then

[late gate]

cant fit

[clear ferry]

I have room for one car + a racks + workshop + studio and storage

😉

50m2 garage bitches

[late gate]

you probably live 3 hours from the city

[clear ferry]

takes me 25 minutes to Oslo

[late gate]

I live 5 from centrum

[shadow prawn]

Need a second floor then

[late gate]

I have 3 floors lol

[clear ferry]

I live 7 minutes from the local city

[shadow prawn]

In the garage

[scenic radish]

Need a 4th floor then

[clear ferry]

5th

[late gate]

Interessting how a doorbell ends up in renovation advice lol

[clear ferry]

Shitty house purchases you mean

😄

[scenic radish]

I quite enjoy my two-story house that was dropped into a hole in the ground

[shadow prawn]

And bacon

[clear ferry]

I like my three story, but I would have liked two more garages and more land

[shadow prawn]

But property prices have been exploding

[scenic radish]

Three story...you have a basement too atx?

[clear ferry]

yes

[scenic radish]

I thought you have a raised ranch

Ah nice

[clear ferry]

I thought I lived in a muthud

according to sonoma

[scenic radish]

With a foundation made of hardened unicorn poop

[late gate]

Im not a super fan of 3 floors

[clear ferry]

garage+washroom+sauna+bathroom+three storage rooms in the basement

[late gate]

would be easier with one huge

[clear ferry]

2 bedrooms + 2 bathrooms + livingroom and kitchen in main floor

two bedrooms, one bathroom and one living room upstairs

[scenic radish]

Three beds, two baths, living room, dining room, kitchen on the main floor for us. Bedroom (used as an office), study, family room, utility room, bar, and bathroom in the basement

[umbral cliff]

That extra bedroom for your best friend sonoma if he visits?

[clear ferry]

sorry, people who wear shoes indoors aren't allowed inside

👀

[scenic radish]

What if those shoes are dedicated to the indoors only?

[clear ferry]

then you are japanese

HAI

acceptable

[late gate]

no shoes!

or carpet in the bathroom like stupid americans :p

[shadow prawn]

Hey! My grandma had carpet in her bathroom, too

[late gate]

ugh

[shadow prawn]

And carpet on her toilet seat

[finite atlas]

carpets are all fun and great, until you have to wash them

[late gate]

sounds so hyginic

[shadow prawn]

She is 93 years old, had not harmed her

But yes it‘s a little strange

[late gate]

atx is 94 so he uses diapers

[green inlet]

I miss my basement.

[clear ferry]

I still have nightmares about my grandmothers carpeted floors

From the 60s

[green inlet]

Master on main 4 the win

I think I have a second floor 😜

[late gate]

Why am I so lazy I cant build a dashboard? I just have NO creativity

[green inlet]

Dashboards are over rated

[clear ferry]

Lol dashboard

[late gate]

yeah yeah, everything should be automated

but thats not the case

Is it possible to get faster mysql over IP? Im not a guru, but I want to move mysql to the nas so it got backup, and much more storage. Im not sure if I get any performance gain of syncing the mysql db onto a ssd on the nas, then direct ip, or socket over ip directly to 7200rpm disks.

The HAN port here in norway does take some time to load, not sure if it just here

the tibber one, maybe atx got one?

[clear ferry]

Yes

If it isn't fast enough for you now

You have other problems

[late gate]

does one day of han loads right away?

I think its 1 row pr second on the han

[clear ferry]

It loads pretty fast, faster than i bother worrying

But that is rather an issue with logbook

I would guess

Push it to influx and have it instantaneous anytime

[late gate]

Here it takes 10 seconds to load 24 hours, so I assume 86400 rows

[scenic radish]

I've never seen this in real life lol

[clear ferry]

7 seconds to load 24h here @late gate

[late gate]

so about the same

[clear ferry]

Over the network

But again, guessing that is a logbook limitation

Not SQL

[late gate]

yeah over network here too

I am working on stripping off everything home assistant

do you have a composer for influx?

[clear ferry]

Somewhere on my GitHub yes

[velvet horizon]

You can find his config lurking in the darkness.

Command '.atxbyea' was invoked by: atxbyea

[clear ferry]

I need to clean that up when I'm back at work next week

[late gate]

I will take a look. I think its clever to run influx etc on the nas

as it got daily backups, and much more space

before I started getting 40gb backups on HA

[clear ferry]

Lol more than 14MB of ha backup

[late gate]

yeah thats why im taking action. also going to move to docker ha

but better to move all services first

[clear ferry]

[late gate]

Writing scrips in NORWEGIAN????

Do you have tupler in your database too?

:p

[clear ferry]

Pass dæ din hæstpeis

[finite atlas]

xD

[late gate]

Bath time 1 hour out of their shell

or egg is more accurate

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/offer-nice-egg-tryin-time-danny-devito-gif-5352739

[late gate]

I need a temperature sensor for the water heater. I feel its easier to order one one ebay than trying to go through 20 boxes with misc components finding a sensor

[clear ferry]

Will it be submerged?

Ds18b20 is probably good

[late gate]

no, just to measure the water temp on the tubes

I think the water heater is a bit strange on the temperature, and its using so much power

its just 120l

and if nobody shower that say it uses like 8-9kw

*day

[shadow prawn]

kWh

[late gate]

yes

[clear ferry]

I use 12-18kwh per day on my 200l water heater

[late gate]

is that a day its in use?

[clear ferry]

Every day

[late gate]

except hand wash etc

[clear ferry]

Normal use

Showers every 2-3 days

Doing dishes daily

[late gate]

I get shy of 10 without shower that day

dishwasher

that using cold water

I think its good for exchange

[clear ferry]

You think i put pans in the dishwasher?

Kids these days

[late gate]

I dont have kids

[clear ferry]

So people without kids don't use pans?

[late gate]

why cant I put pans in the dishwasher?

[clear ferry]

That is just... Very millennial of you

And a lot of stuff has coating that should be hand washed

[late gate]

meh it warp before its used

buy new

[clear ferry]

Kids these days

[late gate]

does influx 2 work with ha?

[clever mortar]

#analytics-archived would know

[clear ferry]

If you think that is a lot of power@late gate just turn down the thermostat

Have lukewarm water, or slow to heat water

[shadow prawn]

Don’t turn it too low though, or you will have some legionella

[clear ferry]

Free hospital

No issues

[shadow prawn]

There is an obligation to report them here in germany (in norway probably also) and they’re quite harmful either. You dont want them

[clear ferry]

Just chug some hot water from the tap

Epic weight-loss

[shadow prawn]

If diarrhea would be the worst you could get from them

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/shit-shit-fountain-ew-disgust-poop-gif-14762730

[finite atlas]

what did i came back to..

[green inlet]

Apparently showers every 3 days, hand washing pots 🧐 and massive diarrhea 🤣

[clear ferry]

No bacon today sadly

[shadow prawn]

No bacon today, my love has gone away

[orchid rose]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-bart-simpson-grampa-simpson-old-man-hi-bye-gif-8390063

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/ron-swanson-bacon-gif-6141620

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-meat-steak-yummy-the-sun-gif-14052228

[shadow prawn]

Now i am hungry

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/whale-hellothere-pun-wave-greeting-gif-4667651

[shadow prawn]

Sad, before there‘s dinner, there‘s some exercise on the bike to do

[scenic radish]

Wut

You don't shower daily?

[dull plaza]

Guys who are using proxmox or other virtualization and docker. What is the easiest way of editing docker-compose.yaml files that are in vm?

[clever mortar]

vi

[scenic radish]

vim really, unless you hate yourself

Actually, if you really hate yourself, just use echo and sed

editing hard mode

[green inlet]

I started with notepad++

[clever mortar]

I'll have to admit that neovim is quite nice

[dull plaza]

@green inlet how will you transfer the file to the vm then?

[clever mortar]

SSH FTW

Don't forget Samba

[green inlet]

Ssh with keys. Log directly into the host

[dull plaza]

how will you open the file using notepad++ with ssh?

[green inlet]

Have you used notepad++?

Once you logged into the host just double click on things. It’s windows based so I can edit things from a windows box.

[clever mortar]

VSC has similar magic integrations

[green inlet]

Nano on the host directly

[orchid rose]

I always use nano because sudo nano was the first thing I learned when dealing with Linux stuff so it stuck 👀

[clever mortar]

nano

[orchid rose]

ikr 😂

[green inlet]

Me also…..all these long time linux users didn’t have such nice things when they started

[orchid rose]

HA stuff I do with notepad++ though on my comfy windows computer via samba

[green inlet]

We are spoiled 🤣

[clear ferry]

No apparently Norwegians don't

@orchid rose how often do finns shower?

@last cedar what about Swedes

[orchid rose]

I wouldn't know, but I shower daily

[clear ferry]

I need to know

Are Norwegians the weirdos

[west bronze]

Hi could anyone help me with ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR ? I can acces my HA through http but no https ;///

[clear ferry]

Tell me we aren't @dusky plank

It can't be true @finite atlas

[finite atlas]

huh?

[clear ferry]

I need to check in with my EURO pals

[finite atlas]

well

[scenic radish]

Tbh once you learn vim, you'll never want to go back to nano. vim was confusing at first, but now that I've been using it for so long, nano is now confusing 😂

[clear ferry]

[finite atlas]

norwegians are odd

but a lovely kind of odd

[velvet horizon]

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[clever mortar]

You another channel

[finite atlas]

and germans are douchbags for the most part

so norwegians > germans

[clever mortar]

And almost certainly starting in your install method channel

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/shower-pranks-sexy-tada-pink-towel-gif-12684023

[finite atlas]

oh it was about showering daily
i do shower daily, because otherwise i'd stink a lot

[shadow prawn]

Thank you 😂

[finite atlas]

i've been in norway & sweden once, the people there are just so much nicer then anywhere else i've been

[orchid rose]

So atx is an exception then

[finite atlas]

he is lovely too

i'd adopt him

[green inlet]

Just put raw bacon on your front porch….he won’t ever leave 🤣

[static schooner]

My hair gets out of control if I don't take a shower, but a hat will do in a pinch. Perhaps that's a plus for shaving one's head

I've gotten somewhat lazy during the pandemic, but I do recognize it as such

[clear ferry]

Did someone say I'm nice

https://tenor.com/view/japan-anime-kawaii-sugoi-gif-4761309

[shadow prawn]

Good news, my zigbee coordinator is on it‘s way

[finite atlas]

yes headpats atx

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/senpai-anime-love-blush-notice-gif-7702292

[brisk glen]

Sshfs… use any text editor you want

[clear ferry]

sshfs

[brisk glen]

How else am I supposed to edit files with a pretty GUI on iPadOS

[glacial knot]

nfs

[brisk glen]

But ssh is already there

[shadow prawn]

Happens every time

[brisk glen]

My life in a nutshell

[dull plaza]

Iam newbie in VM and docker. I messed with photoprism and it saved some photos somewhere in VM. I would like to search by size of directory but dont know the correct command. Anybody can help pls,

?

[clever mortar]

Depends on what OS is running in that VM

[dull plaza]

debian

[clever mortar]

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/106330/sort-all-directories-based-on-their-size

You could also use find to find the files you changed recently

find / -type f -mmin -90 -print

[dull plaza]

the problem is that when I use this command it will fill the screen with the folders where permison is denied and stop

[clear ferry]

sudo command

Or sudo su first

[dull plaza]

it does not help due to VM

But I located the folder. What is in /var/lib/docker/vfs??

It has 19GB. I installed only photoprism and mariadb

[clever mortar]

find / -type f -mmin -90 -print 2>/dev/null

try that then

And, that's for Docker

Odds are you screwed up a container config

[dull plaza]

haha 😄 probably

[clear ferry]

Does not help due to vm

[dull plaza]

I deleted vfs folder "ERROR: for root_mariadb_1 Cannot create container for service mariadb: 01cf982ce022ba2bb7a0d61ce3cfadec0fefe70a096110768637e736bcf29b60: stat /var/lib/docker/vfs/dir/01cf982ce022ba2bb7a0d61ce3cfadec0fefe70a096110768637e736bcf29b60: no such file or directory

ERROR: for mariadb Cannot create container for service mariadb: 01cf982ce022ba2bb7a0d61ce3cfadec0fefe70a096110768637e736bcf29b60: stat /var/lib/docker/vfs/dir/01cf982ce022ba2bb7a0d61ce3cfadec0fefe70a096110768637e736bcf29b60: no such file or directory
ERROR: Encountered errors while bringing up the project."

[clear ferry]

[dull plaza]

D

damn, thats fun

[clever mortar]

I guess you like checking the fuel level of petrol tanks by lighting a road flare and dropping it in

[dull plaza]

😄 thats me

in vfs folder, there were probably images right? 😄

[clever mortar]

You know, I think it's past time you learned about Docker

Since you feel the solution to stuff is to randomly delete things

[frank anchor]

never randomly delete, always rename

[clever mortar]

Or at least have backups, or otherwise the skill/clue required to recover from shooting yourself in the foot

[frank anchor]

I finally figured out how to template API GET values to sensors and I feel an incredible weight lifted off my shoulders

[dull plaza]

This was ok 🙂 but I would like to know why the vfs files are so big. I accidentaly imported maybe photos to that vfs file. But how to get inside of it

Congrats!

[velvet horizon]

:point_up: Let me Google that for you...

Here , try this:
http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=what+is+%2Fvar%2Flib%2Fdocker%2Fvfs

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[dull plaza]

Thanks 🙂 I did all from scratch and the protoprism docker-compose.yaml did 18GB of files in VFS anyway.... strange

[velvet horizon]

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[dull plaza]

sry

[clever mortar]

Maybe photoprism is a big install...

https://gitter.im/browseyourlife/community

[dull plaza]

thanks ")

[warped sage]

I have a question about a special character I can’t seem to find in any keyboard I install and would love some help finding it

Is it ok to post a pic here or it has to be a link to imgur?