#the-water-cooler | Home Assistant | Page 739

clear ferry Nov 28, 2021, 5:15 PM

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Yes

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Or, it reads an env file

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In the same directory as docker compose

low harness Nov 28, 2021, 5:32 PM

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environment can be a dict too if you like. yaml environment: TZ: Europe/Stockholm URL: ${SECRET}

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Also;```yaml
volumes:

/etc/timezone:/etc/timezone```

crisp sapphire Nov 28, 2021, 5:37 PM

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@clear ferry does price matter as much as with the normal strips? Im assuming it doesnt bcuz they all use the same generic rgb led unlike the strips which can vary greatly in brightness.

clear ferry Nov 28, 2021, 5:39 PM

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Ws2811 is ws2811

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You just have to decide if you want 5v or 12v

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 5:40 PM

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how are addressable strips?

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ive wanted to get like 1 or 2 super fucking bright Argbw strips

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for above my pc

clear ferry Nov 28, 2021, 5:40 PM

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They are addressable

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 5:40 PM

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YES I WANT MY WHOLE ROOM TO GLOW FFS

clear ferry Nov 28, 2021, 5:40 PM

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goaKittenAngry

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 5:41 PM

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ALL THE RGB

crisp sapphire Nov 28, 2021, 5:41 PM

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clear ferry Ws2811 is ws2811

Negative. The controllers are the same but they skimp on the led quality. Iv bought several strips with identical specs only to have a few be half as bright. The naming scheme simply refers to the controller/driver

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 5:41 PM

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epileptics worst nightmare

clear ferry Nov 28, 2021, 5:42 PM

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I bought 800 at once, so no idea

crisp sapphire Nov 28, 2021, 5:42 PM

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jade tartan ive wanted to get like 1 or 2 super fucking bright Argbw strips

144 led/m

clear ferry Nov 28, 2021, 5:42 PM

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And i use less than a roll for projects

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 5:42 PM

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i just wana sync my aura sync on my mobo to all my rgb strips so i can have my whole house glow when i get a headshot, DUH

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i want every fucking rgb in my house to flash red and orange damn it, i want the cats downstairs to freak out, and my wife to be like UGH

crisp sapphire Nov 28, 2021, 5:43 PM

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clear ferry I bought 800 at once, so no idea

The outdoor ones you showed me should be fine at any price point as the led's are only being produced by a few. Like candy.

clear ferry Nov 28, 2021, 5:43 PM

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This is regular ws2812b for $8 from AliExpress

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Cloud https://imgur.com/gallery/z6S1oz8

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crisp sapphire Nov 28, 2021, 5:44 PM

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So they cant skimp as that would actually increase cost due to economies of scale

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Unlike with the 5050's

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 5:44 PM

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i keep finding that alot of controllers, allow flickering on led's

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annoying as hell

clear ferry Nov 28, 2021, 5:44 PM

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Use a level shifter

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Problem solved

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 5:44 PM

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?

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red pill me

clear ferry Nov 28, 2021, 5:45 PM

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Lmgtfy

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 5:45 PM

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like shift the voltage from 12 to 24?

clear ferry Nov 28, 2021, 5:45 PM

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No

crisp sapphire Nov 28, 2021, 5:46 PM

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iv never needed a level shifter for some reason. The one time i opted to use one fucked the strip in half and made it flicker like mad. Might've been the shitty breadboard collection idk

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not even on my 5m 60 led/m strip pulling over 70W

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 5:46 PM

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also how would i use a level shifter in a premade magic home?

crisp sapphire Nov 28, 2021, 5:46 PM

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you dont. Thats 5V i belive

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nvm

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im an idiot

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 5:46 PM

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crisp sapphire Nov 28, 2021, 5:47 PM

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thats for analog strips

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 5:47 PM

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i made a shop light

crisp sapphire Nov 28, 2021, 5:47 PM

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no shifter needed as there are no controllers onboard the led strip

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 5:47 PM

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because i wanted rgb

crisp sapphire Nov 28, 2021, 5:47 PM

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Magichome controllers are for analog strips only

clear ferry Nov 28, 2021, 5:47 PM

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Magic home 🤢

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 5:47 PM

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yeah, im saying i have that, and it flickers

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also it's running tas

crisp sapphire Nov 28, 2021, 5:48 PM

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clear ferry Magic home 🤢

They're good tf you on about man. Just shitty wiring. Resolder some thicc boi wire & flash with esphome and your good to go

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the real gamble is avoiding the texas chips

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 5:49 PM

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yeah i designed up a pogo jig for these boards

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i got a hot tip for that

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get one with IR sensor

crisp sapphire Nov 28, 2021, 5:49 PM

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^

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 5:49 PM

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every one ive ordered with IR sensor is still esp

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just got 2 more last week

crisp sapphire Nov 28, 2021, 5:49 PM

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also anyone have any experience with running esps outdoor in nordic conditions? Im thinking waterproof junction box & conformal.

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Good bad?

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 5:50 PM

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i used to work for an isp

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know how many inside resi routers ive seen mounted outside?

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LOL

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too many

crisp sapphire Nov 28, 2021, 5:50 PM

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LOL

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classic

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 5:50 PM

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i'd say conformal and your fuckin good bud

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biggest issue would be condensation i'd imagine

crisp sapphire Nov 28, 2021, 5:51 PM

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ye but id rather still have that waterproof junc box. Do they work with thin wires?

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 5:51 PM

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like the esp im using?

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i can show you the insides i think

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uhh, i can later, when i can pop one open again

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i got 1 left to flash

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it uses like 16g inside

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ish

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maybe 18 on the IR

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note im horrible at judging distances and sizes

clear ferry Nov 28, 2021, 5:54 PM

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https://c.tenor.com/HqUbnHkbeFkAAAAM/zlatan-ibra.gif

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 5:55 PM

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^ this man knows

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FUCK

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i gotta go to the dump now

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b4 they close and were stuck with everythnig for another week

sleek tide Nov 28, 2021, 6:31 PM

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hello guys... is there anybody here to help me like a coach for setting up a commercial project?

clear ferry Nov 28, 2021, 7:12 PM

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That sounds like a horrible idea

crisp sapphire Nov 28, 2021, 7:22 PM

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jade tartan i gotta go to the dump now

That use to be the highlight of my week about a decade ago.

hollow glacier Nov 28, 2021, 7:27 PM

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clear ferry That sounds like a horrible idea

you dont like helping people where they make money and you do all the work?

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https://giphy.com/gifs/suitsusanetwork-suits-joe-henderson-3oEduKOYEB7s41EQP6

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Suits

scenic radish Nov 28, 2021, 7:28 PM

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it's for the exposure

clear ferry Nov 28, 2021, 7:28 PM

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I can get more money?

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https://c.tenor.com/EWRvErYGzPUAAAAM/bugs-bunny-looney-tunes.gif

hollow glacier Nov 28, 2021, 7:29 PM

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https://giphy.com/gifs/thesimpsons-xT5LMxUOloIIzaDN4Y

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clear ferry Nov 28, 2021, 7:29 PM

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I soon will have two kids and three money

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Catblushie

hollow glacier Nov 28, 2021, 7:29 PM

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yuck

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 7:39 PM

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crisp sapphire That use to be the highlight of my week about a decade ago.

I will say the dude and me are chill and he lets me take scrap metal to weld out of the bin

forest edge Nov 28, 2021, 8:03 PM

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crisp sapphire the real gamble is avoiding the texas chips

just use the updated flux/magic home integration. works flawlessly. block access to devices at router if need be but is completely local

crisp sapphire Nov 28, 2021, 8:03 PM

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News, didnt know.

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Thanks

brazen root Nov 28, 2021, 8:10 PM

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low harness ` environment` can be a dict too if you like. ```yaml environment: TZ: Europe/...

Where does it look for the secret?

low harness Nov 28, 2021, 8:11 PM

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https://docs.docker.com/compose/environment-variables/

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 8:27 PM

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Who wants to bet these are not esp

clear ferry Nov 28, 2021, 8:29 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/patrick-stewart-mild-shock-zoom-in-gif-14354678

Tenor

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 8:40 PM

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4 for $20 tho

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Didnt get

crisp sapphire Nov 28, 2021, 9:32 PM

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& now the damn magic home thing wont connect to my wifi

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something tells me its my 32 digit password messing it up

forest edge Nov 28, 2021, 10:45 PM

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enbrighten is tuya based

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smart home stuff is a lot like appliances. set number of parent companies that have ass loads of siblings under different names except the parent companies don't own the sibling just the software they use

hushed basalt Nov 28, 2021, 10:52 PM

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clear ferry https://tenor.com/view/patrick-stewart-mild-shock-zoom-in-gif-14354678

Stewart is a bit out of touch

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 11:09 PM

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forest edge enbrighten is tuya based

i figured but the real question was if they were esp or that bl602 thing

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i should have just bought them and found out for us and done some testing

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$20 for 4 of them is a good deal

forest edge Nov 28, 2021, 11:26 PM

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tuya stuff switched off esp's awhile back. doubt you will find anything that uses their firmware anymore

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 11:27 PM

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if only i knew how to reverse engineer that shit

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i'd love to create the new tas

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make all the new shit work

proven spruce Nov 28, 2021, 11:27 PM

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unless its old stock

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 11:27 PM

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^ this is the man to ask

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lol

proven spruce Nov 28, 2021, 11:27 PM

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if its Tuya and mentions bluetooth support its not ESP

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 11:27 PM

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i use your site so much in stores btw

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it did mention that

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so yeah

proven spruce Nov 28, 2021, 11:28 PM

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tuya wasn't using ESP32 chips so that-s a dead giveaway

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 11:29 PM

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i basicly only buy something if the repo says it's tas-able

proven spruce Nov 28, 2021, 11:29 PM

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which also isn't 100% reliable 🙃

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but i try to keep up

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 11:29 PM

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fyi, if you want the magic home's to still be esp

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the ones with the IR sensor seem to still be

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for led strip controllers

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i just bought some

proven spruce Nov 28, 2021, 11:30 PM

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heh, i never wanted those, they tend to burn out fast

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unless you use short strips

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 11:30 PM

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what would you nab?

proven spruce Nov 28, 2021, 11:30 PM

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i have a bunch of H801

jade tartan Nov 28, 2021, 11:30 PM

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im using the 16 foot strips

proven spruce Nov 28, 2021, 11:31 PM

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thats how much in normal units?

jade tartan Nov 29, 2021, 12:13 AM

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like 3m

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no

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uhh

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5m

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ish

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i want an addressable one i can make sync with aura sync

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but i cant figure out making a hue bridge emulation work

torpid glacier Nov 29, 2021, 12:48 AM

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h801 is just a controller not a strip?

forest edge Nov 29, 2021, 12:56 AM

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for something beefier I would use the quinled setups. most those older controllers like the h801 has no built in fuse protection or anything

hollow glacier Nov 29, 2021, 1:00 AM

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Did someone say disco kitchen?

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Using a dig quad. They’re normally white but it’s fun to play

forest edge Nov 29, 2021, 1:05 AM

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lol i bought 6 channel strips just so i "could" do that in my kitchen but before I got around to put them up I feel like I would be wasting the rgb part in the kitchen lol

hollow glacier Nov 29, 2021, 1:05 AM

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you'd be surprised

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having like.. purple/pinkish is kinda fun sometimes

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i go through stages of turning them different colors or just whiteish

forest edge Nov 29, 2021, 1:05 AM

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these were going to be just under cabinet lights. but you seem to went all out hehe

hollow glacier Nov 29, 2021, 1:05 AM

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i have them added to hass and a hue motion sensor turns them on/off with motion based on lux in room

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along with all the other lights in kitchen

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using a blueprint cuz lazy

hollow glacier Nov 29, 2021, 1:06 AM

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forest edge these were going to be just under cabinet lights. but you seem to went all out h...

ya but under counters turned out being really nice

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for lighting up drawers

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and under bottom cabinets above floor turned out nice too

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i have been tempted to segment off the leds above and below dish washer and have those turn red/green based on dish washer being clean/dirty

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but i dont have a smart dish washer and didnt want to pull it out or take breaker box apart to fuck with it

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so i didnt

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maybe if i decide to do crack i will have the energy

forest edge Nov 29, 2021, 1:08 AM

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just throw a smart plug on the dishwasher plug

hollow glacier Nov 29, 2021, 1:08 AM

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cant get to it without pulling it out

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and i dont wanna

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lol

forest edge Nov 29, 2021, 1:08 AM

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oh, mine runs under the sink

hollow glacier Nov 29, 2021, 1:08 AM

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there are easy to follow guides with those things you hook over wires

forest edge Nov 29, 2021, 1:09 AM

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could stick a vibration sensor on it lol

hollow glacier Nov 29, 2021, 1:09 AM

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could stick a vibration sensor on you

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example of lit up drawer^

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kinda cool

forest edge Nov 29, 2021, 1:09 AM

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are you saying i need some water

hollow glacier Nov 29, 2021, 1:10 AM

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ya honestly not a bad idea on vib sensor or w/e

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excuse to play with esphome again

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i havent touched it since esp32cam toying

hollow glacier Nov 29, 2021, 1:10 AM

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forest edge are you saying i need some water

https://giphy.com/gifs/laff-tv-that-70s-show-laff-l378gODdla75xN0CA

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torpid glacier Nov 29, 2021, 1:14 AM

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probably best to get rgb just in case for future projects

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could make them blink a colour for some reason, or go to a warmer white after dusk

dusky plank Nov 29, 2021, 1:35 AM

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green inlet Nov 29, 2021, 1:49 AM

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Some people have too much time on their hands 🤣

static schooner Nov 29, 2021, 2:02 AM

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Is that somebody watching themselves eat chips and popcorn from a previous recording? I'm fascinated

forest edge Nov 29, 2021, 3:48 AM

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gonna start recording yourself eating then watch it the next day while your eating?

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while recording yourself eating watching yourself eating..

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then you can watch yourself watch yourself eating while eating and eating while watching all of that as well as recording yourself eating while watching yourself eating while watching yourself eating...

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then you wake up norwegian

hollow glacier Nov 29, 2021, 4:04 AM

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hard hollow Nov 29, 2021, 5:09 AM

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Hello, We are Home Assistant Trainer Located in Thailand. Just looking to devices / hardware partners.

forest edge Nov 29, 2021, 7:43 AM

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I am confused. are crescent wrenches rare in Germany? was watching this video and this guy made it seem like they just don't normally exist there. https://youtu.be/W9GXv-i45Xo?t=843

finite atlas Nov 29, 2021, 7:51 AM

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yep, they are pretty rare

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but we have a simmilar style one that isnt

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https://cdn02.plentymarkets.com/isy53auab0zy/item/images/101964/full/rohr-kombi-zange-3.jpg

forest edge Nov 29, 2021, 7:55 AM

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those are channel locks.. that is not similar by any means lol

low harness Nov 29, 2021, 8:17 AM

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Sounds to me like he’s saying those specific military wrenches from a country that doesn’t exist anymore are slightly rare?

dusky plank Nov 29, 2021, 8:17 AM

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the other ones are limited

finite atlas Nov 29, 2021, 8:39 AM

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forest edge those are channel locks.. that is not similar by any means lol

its similar

strange crag Nov 29, 2021, 8:45 AM

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we call them multigrips here !

clear ferry Nov 29, 2021, 9:42 AM

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vannpumpetang

low harness Nov 29, 2021, 11:20 AM

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Rörtång

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Or polygrip

glacial knot Nov 29, 2021, 11:22 AM

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forest edge I am confused. are crescent wrenches rare in Germany? was watching this video an...

Pretty uncommon since they usually don’t work properly (so we call them Engländer 😉 )

low harness Nov 29, 2021, 11:23 AM

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Nut lathe is a common nickname

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Because that’s what they do. Turn nuts into round stock.

proven spruce Nov 29, 2021, 11:24 AM

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so true

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we call them parrot clamps 😄

dusky plank Nov 29, 2021, 12:35 PM

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Your-future-self-is-watching-you-right-now-in-the-form-of-memories.jpg

hushed basalt Nov 29, 2021, 12:37 PM

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Too soon?

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It has been over 22.3 years though

clear ferry Nov 29, 2021, 1:07 PM

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https://c.tenor.com/QBpZRohLJhEAAAAM/chernobyl-not-great.gif

strange crag Nov 29, 2021, 1:20 PM

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dusky plank

what about a "Useless Machine"? It would be pretty hard to let the magic smoke out of one if, when you turn it on it promptly turns itself off!

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useless_machine

Useless machine

A useless machine or useless box is a device which has a function but its direct purpose is deliberately unknown.
“Useless machines” have recently gained popularity with commercial success. They could be used as an amusing engineering "hack", or as a joke.
The most well-known "useless machines" are those inspired by Marvin Minsky's design, in ...

worldly sierra Nov 29, 2021, 1:29 PM

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Who knew... https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/r4o2pi/what_kind_of_eggs_do_they_like/

r/Unexpected - What kind of eggs do they like?

31,569 votes and 796 comments so far on Reddit

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dusky plank Nov 29, 2021, 2:30 PM

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strange crag what about a "Useless Machine"? It would be pretty hard to let the magic smoke o...

pretty sure you can operate that wrong and make it smoke

strange crag Nov 29, 2021, 2:33 PM

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but its only got ONE control! Its gonna be damn hard to! But if you succeed then I wouldnt let you near ANY electronics 🤣

prime latch Nov 29, 2021, 2:51 PM

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worldly sierra Who knew... https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/r4o2pi/what_kind_of_egg...

The kids these days with there tik toks

orchid rose Nov 29, 2021, 3:06 PM

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Ordered a new PC case with some very fancy gamer grade rgb fans and spent the last few hours figuring out how to integrate it all with HA. The 15yo me would have been ecstatic with the possibilities

clear ferry Nov 29, 2021, 3:32 PM

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Rgb

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🤢

orchid rose Nov 29, 2021, 3:34 PM

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I'm pretty sure this is why people my age usually have kids. To have an excuse to enjoy juvenile stuff like this

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The lights on the fans are addressable so I should be able to just run them off a wled device. Hopefully all fans separately as well so I can make better use of the animations

clever mortar Nov 29, 2021, 3:36 PM

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There's no need for kids... embrace your inner child

clear ferry Nov 29, 2021, 3:36 PM

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I enjoy a lot of juvenile stuff

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I just hate rgb

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Catblushie

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Computer stuff RGB that is

orchid rose Nov 29, 2021, 3:38 PM

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It has crossed some weird line for me. It's so tacky that it's almost ironic at this point

clear ferry Nov 29, 2021, 3:41 PM

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So, it's your kink

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ThinkEyes

orchid rose Nov 29, 2021, 3:43 PM

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pls no shame

clever mortar Nov 29, 2021, 3:44 PM

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clear ferry Nov 29, 2021, 3:45 PM

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Sadge

edgy path Nov 29, 2021, 4:32 PM

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There's an account in here spamming. <@&330946878646517761> called "Welcome"

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vivid thicket Nov 29, 2021, 4:33 PM

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cerulean forge Nov 29, 2021, 4:33 PM

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vivid thicket Nov 29, 2021, 4:33 PM

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^^^ that's the account

cerulean forge Nov 29, 2021, 4:34 PM

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user id :913574816278257684

vague ginkgo Nov 29, 2021, 4:34 PM

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@worn gate @Lightempreklo#3999

clear ferry Nov 29, 2021, 4:34 PM

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I never get spam Sadge

copper gale Nov 29, 2021, 4:34 PM

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Can you guys ban this user:

@Peumulgeli#2057
ID: 913574816278257684

summer trellis Nov 29, 2021, 4:34 PM

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misty spruce Nov 29, 2021, 4:34 PM

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There are multiple it seems

edgy path Nov 29, 2021, 4:34 PM

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Oh damn it's multiple

vivid thicket Nov 29, 2021, 4:34 PM

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At least 4 😕

copper gale Nov 29, 2021, 4:34 PM

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for me it was @midnight adder

cold tusk Nov 29, 2021, 4:34 PM

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This one sent to me, user: Webmderdogspa#9952

twin yarrow Nov 29, 2021, 4:34 PM

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edgy path Nov 29, 2021, 4:34 PM

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Probably hacked accounts then

tawdry bolt Nov 29, 2021, 4:35 PM

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copper gale Nov 29, 2021, 4:35 PM

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damn

vague ginkgo Nov 29, 2021, 4:35 PM

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Or the very least some sort of coordinated bot account,

copper gale Nov 29, 2021, 4:35 PM

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fuck them

twin yarrow Nov 29, 2021, 4:35 PM

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Rawidsimis#1581

hushed kayak Nov 29, 2021, 4:35 PM

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loud bobcat Nov 29, 2021, 4:35 PM

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I got this one

orchid gorge Nov 29, 2021, 4:35 PM

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Childdordive#4435 Here is another

white veldt Nov 29, 2021, 4:35 PM

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just adding another user to the mix
Edrerefli#8687

edgy path Nov 29, 2021, 4:35 PM

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oh god what have i started xD

clear ferry Nov 29, 2021, 4:35 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/hacker-typing-hacking-computer-codes-gif-17417874

Tenor

tawdry bolt Nov 29, 2021, 4:35 PM

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Oh boy

wet wren Nov 29, 2021, 4:35 PM

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Also got that spam

dim ruin Nov 29, 2021, 4:35 PM

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tawdry bolt Nov 29, 2021, 4:36 PM

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@edgy path what have you done

edgy path Nov 29, 2021, 4:36 PM

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copper gale Nov 29, 2021, 4:36 PM

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fuckin hell, coordinated af

cold tusk Nov 29, 2021, 4:36 PM

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Could we assist <@&330946878646517761> further with this? like post usernames instead of screenshots and so 😄

clear ferry Nov 29, 2021, 4:36 PM

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Tenor

hushed kayak Nov 29, 2021, 4:36 PM

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Aruderook#7639

proven spruce Nov 29, 2021, 4:36 PM

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is that private messages?

tawdry bolt Nov 29, 2021, 4:36 PM

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@midnight adder

edgy path Nov 29, 2021, 4:36 PM

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cold tusk Could we assist <@&330946878646517761> further with this? like post usernames in...

Nah, let's be as helpless as possible!

copper gale Nov 29, 2021, 4:36 PM

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Yes

low harness Nov 29, 2021, 4:36 PM

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Usernames AND screenshots!

digital tangle Nov 29, 2021, 4:37 PM

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@midnight adder 914731228299673611

hushed kayak Nov 29, 2021, 4:37 PM

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@midnight adder

vague ginkgo Nov 29, 2021, 4:37 PM

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@Lightempreklo#3999

edgy path Nov 29, 2021, 4:37 PM

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wait.. no >_>

vague ginkgo Nov 29, 2021, 4:37 PM

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@[913583138796609609]

edgy path Nov 29, 2021, 4:37 PM

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User that dmmed me is already gone. Either banned or left on their own accord

wet pilot Nov 29, 2021, 4:37 PM

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screenshot + username (id is even better) are useful

tawdry bolt Nov 29, 2021, 4:37 PM

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low harness Usernames AND screenshots!

@midnight adder

wet wren Nov 29, 2021, 4:37 PM

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Does the built-in Report Spam do anything? Already clicked that

proven spruce Nov 29, 2021, 4:37 PM

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time to brush up on photoshop! what's Tinkerer's id?

wheat kettle Nov 29, 2021, 4:37 PM

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low harness Usernames AND screenshots!

@worn gate 913583138796609609 is spamming for crypto

clear ferry Nov 29, 2021, 4:38 PM

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proven spruce time to brush up on photoshop! what's Tinkerer's id?

9ACOSP_ban

hushed kayak Nov 29, 2021, 4:38 PM

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Aruderook#7639
@midnight adder

low harness Nov 29, 2021, 4:38 PM

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Don’t tag me. I’m cooking dinner

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There are mods atound who will deal with it without tagging

summer trellis Nov 29, 2021, 4:38 PM

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@midnight adder hey my spammer

proven spruce Nov 29, 2021, 4:38 PM

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i don't even get pm's from spammers

summer trellis Nov 29, 2021, 4:38 PM

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let's all spam mods now

hexed grove Nov 29, 2021, 4:38 PM

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@midnight adder also spamming bitcoin crap

serene mortar Nov 29, 2021, 4:39 PM

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Also, since it is a PM, the best bet is reporting and blocking

woeful roost Nov 29, 2021, 4:39 PM

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<@&330946878646517761>

serene mortar Nov 29, 2021, 4:39 PM

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Please stop tagging mods

woeful roost Nov 29, 2021, 4:39 PM

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🥲

young citrus Nov 29, 2021, 4:40 PM

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I got that spam from Pilolochu#5280

woeful roost Nov 29, 2021, 4:40 PM

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Maybe if there was a dedicated channel for reporting spam accounts or other abuse then people wouldn't feel a need to tag

copper gale Nov 29, 2021, 4:42 PM

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serene mortar Also, since it is a PM, the best bet is reporting and blocking

How to report?

vague ginkgo Nov 29, 2021, 4:42 PM

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copper gale How to report?

Long press on the message, report should be an option

clever mortar Nov 29, 2021, 4:42 PM

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When somebody DMs you for the first time there's a SPAM option

copper gale Nov 29, 2021, 4:43 PM

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woeful roost Maybe if there was a dedicated channel for reporting spam accounts or other abus...

Maybe with a standard format to make it easy to do the work

serene mortar Nov 29, 2021, 4:43 PM

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clever mortar Nov 29, 2021, 4:43 PM

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Beyond that, we need a screenshot and their handle to ban them from this server... but if you hit the SPAM button that may achieve more good

proven spruce Nov 29, 2021, 4:43 PM

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block, report, move on

dusky plank Nov 29, 2021, 4:43 PM

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🌊 🌊 🌊

light trout Nov 29, 2021, 4:44 PM

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white veldt just adding another user to the mix Edrerefli#8687

See the pinned message, we need screenshot

wheat kettle Nov 29, 2021, 4:44 PM

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arsaboo the rules say to tag a mod in this channel... #rules message

proven spruce Nov 29, 2021, 4:44 PM

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hoisted by their own petard!

clear ferry Nov 29, 2021, 4:45 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/spanish-monty-python-expects-unexpected-sass-gif-5284798

Tenor

orchid rose Nov 29, 2021, 4:46 PM

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Mods hate moderating, it is known

clear ferry Nov 29, 2021, 4:47 PM

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Understandable

vague ginkgo Nov 29, 2021, 4:47 PM

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Relatable

dusky plank Nov 29, 2021, 4:47 PM

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have a nice day

light trout Nov 29, 2021, 4:47 PM

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young citrus I got that spam from Pilolochu#5280

See the pinned message, we need screenshot

serene mortar Nov 29, 2021, 4:48 PM

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many of the users that spammed are already blocked or have left the HA server

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if you see anyone still listed on the server...please let us know

glacial knot Nov 29, 2021, 4:49 PM

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proven spruce time to brush up on photoshop! what's Tinkerer's id?

photoshop? You have chromium dev tools way closer

serene mortar Nov 29, 2021, 4:49 PM

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meanwhile, report such users

clear ferry Nov 29, 2021, 4:52 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/report-all-report-minecraft-command-commands-gif-22064519

Tenor

green cradle Nov 29, 2021, 4:54 PM

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How do you report spammers ?

clever mortar Nov 29, 2021, 4:54 PM

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Scroll up and read?

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Use the Report SPAM button in the DM

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Then as explained in the topic and pinned messages, we need a screenshot and their handle

green cradle Nov 29, 2021, 4:55 PM

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I'm on mobile app, so don't see a report spam button..

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glacial knot Nov 29, 2021, 4:56 PM

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how come I never get the spammers? 🤔

green cradle Nov 29, 2021, 4:56 PM

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@midnight adder is handle

proven spruce Nov 29, 2021, 4:56 PM

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maybe you are one 😛

clear ferry Nov 29, 2021, 4:57 PM

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I never get any either

glacial knot Nov 29, 2021, 4:57 PM

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We can change that @clear ferry

clear ferry Nov 29, 2021, 4:57 PM

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And my nick starts with an a

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https://c.tenor.com/WW5SBL0BVXsAAAAM/pingu-slap.gif

orchid rose Nov 29, 2021, 4:57 PM

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I've gotten one or two, but rather rarely. Mostly just atx

green cradle Nov 29, 2021, 4:58 PM

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Lol

last cedar Nov 29, 2021, 5:44 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/pingu-eating-ice-cream-pingu-and-mom-pingu-eating-moms-ice-cream-pingu-popsicle-pingu-at-home-gif-18843592

Tenor

orchid rose Nov 29, 2021, 5:44 PM

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pingu is fucking creepy

last cedar Nov 29, 2021, 5:46 PM

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Yes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ4OVdeBu5A

YouTube

Funbucket at the Movies

Pingu Best Moments

Noot Noot!

▶ Play video

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Hillarious

clear ferry Nov 29, 2021, 5:56 PM

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Have you seen Pingu with Swedish subtitles @last cedar @orchid rose

orchid rose Nov 29, 2021, 6:13 PM

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No and I'm not sure I should either

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The original sounds like Danish

clear ferry Nov 29, 2021, 6:15 PM

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https://youtu.be/lfJ39SkXE6M

YouTube

Nikolai Storevik

Pingu med svensk tekst. Sinnsvakt morsomt!

En kar fra sverige som har lagt til svensk tekst oppå en helt standard pinguepisode, eller deler av denne. Anbefales på det sterkeste!!

▶ Play video

orchid rose Nov 29, 2021, 6:22 PM

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At first I was going to say my Swedish isn't good enough, but this was so childish even I could understand it 🙃

clear ferry Nov 29, 2021, 6:24 PM

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DogeWink

shut siren Nov 29, 2021, 6:28 PM

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Just here to report another spammer (@midnight adder, ID: 914730312653762590 )

clever mortar Nov 29, 2021, 6:28 PM

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We need the user ID/handle too

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That avoids issues where there's multiple users with similar looking names, or they've used Unicode

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Don't forget to use Discords spam reporting feature

shut siren Nov 29, 2021, 6:29 PM

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Did that too

finite atlas Nov 29, 2021, 6:48 PM

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pingu was gorgeous as a child

wise cypress Nov 29, 2021, 7:01 PM

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@clever mortar got spam from @midnight adder userid 914727129520939059 sorry for direct ping i can't tag the mods role

clever mortar Nov 29, 2021, 7:03 PM

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You don't need to tag me, just post about it

wise cypress Nov 29, 2021, 7:05 PM

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kk, just saw rules said ping mod role but can't do that so went for the last one i saw heh

last cedar Nov 29, 2021, 7:47 PM

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clear ferry Have you seen Pingu with Swedish subtitles <@300242410338910209> <@2201587145088...

Nope!

forest edge Nov 29, 2021, 7:51 PM

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I dunno how you people think channel locks and crescent wrenches are similar lol one is similar to pliers and the other is similar to a wrench 🤣

static schooner Nov 29, 2021, 7:52 PM

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yeah, they're completely different

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Channel locks and vise grips are useful tools, but they're brute force. Crescent wrenches are more tools of precision

forest edge Nov 29, 2021, 7:56 PM

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I dunno about precision the south calls them a hillbillies multitool lol

static schooner Nov 29, 2021, 8:02 PM

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the first two just rely on grabbing onto something as hard as possible damn the consequences, while the last actually tries to conform to and use the geometry of the thing it's manipulating

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an adjustable crescent wrench kinda straddles the fence, but fixed wrenches come in millimeter-scale

forest edge Nov 29, 2021, 8:05 PM

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yea channel locks always seem to be more of a plumbers tool than anything else to me. crescent wrenches i have used on everything at least once

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home owners pipe wrench lol

static schooner Nov 29, 2021, 8:09 PM

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a pipe wrench is pretty great in the right situation, also beats the other tools-of-force

dusky plank Nov 29, 2021, 8:22 PM

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rohrzange ftw

clear ferry Nov 29, 2021, 8:26 PM

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Kraftfahrzeug-Haftpflichtversicherung

dusky plank Nov 29, 2021, 8:30 PM

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Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänsmütze

clever mortar Nov 29, 2021, 8:33 PM

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But, did it ever visit Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch?

static schooner Nov 29, 2021, 8:36 PM

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in other obscure and useful tools - sometimes only a strap wrench will do

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Harbor Freight FTW

forest edge Nov 29, 2021, 8:38 PM

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rubber strap wrench is useful for smooth cylindrical stuff like oil filters but I found the rubber was too stretchy on anything that really required some torq

static schooner Nov 29, 2021, 8:39 PM

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smooth and cylindrical with no damage is definitely the strong point. I was happy to have my cheap set of two when I need to lower a flag pole that requires twisting smooth segments

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and a sprinkler anti-syphon valve

forest edge Nov 29, 2021, 8:43 PM

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lol yea the rubber would still work decent on wet surfaces

static schooner Nov 29, 2021, 9:31 PM

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Lol: https://twitter.com/mental_floss/status/1465427958684950542?s=21

Mental Floss (@mental_floss)

Wonder what is going through the cat's head at 0:11...
https://t.co/VKKZh54geN

▶ Play video

forest edge Nov 29, 2021, 10:31 PM

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Typical Au rv trailer companies are starting to convert for US and attempting to sell them in US with outrageous price tags and come to find out these RV's are considered the cheap chinese knockoffs in Australia.

dusky plank Nov 29, 2021, 11:10 PM

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yes, that is for sure what is going through the cat's head at 0:11.

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:02 AM

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so anyone know why my magic home rgb controller refuses to connect to my wifi?

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Anyone had similar issues?

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:21 AM

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crisp sapphire so anyone know why my magic home rgb controller refuses to connect to my wifi?

did you flash tas?

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:21 AM

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Nah. Its not esp based

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but someone recommended i just use the magic home integration

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:21 AM

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word, never used their software

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i think i mentioned it to you, but the IR sensor RGBW controllers are still esp

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just fyi

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:22 AM

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Yea sadly cant find any on amazon sweden :/

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:23 AM

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does it have to be amazon? cause i know places like banggood have them

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:24 AM

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the difficulty is finding a european seller thats got a resonable price

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:25 AM

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word

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i hear that

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:25 AM

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whatever word means. Its not even a GenZ term i dont think

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:26 AM

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i guess technicly, "word" and "i hear that" are the same

scenic radish Nov 30, 2021, 12:27 AM

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The '90s called

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:27 AM

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i loved the 90's

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THANKYOU

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lol

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:27 AM

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me too, but not in person sadly

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or, well.. depends maybe i did experience it in person, just not in its full glory.

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the computer & music side of things

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@jade tartan now adays we (genz) use based instead of word.

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it means agreeable or i agree.

scenic radish Nov 30, 2021, 12:30 AM

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As a millennial, Zoomers confuse and scare me

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:30 AM

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why? The humor?

scenic radish Nov 30, 2021, 12:30 AM

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I just learned what "no cap" means the other day which made me realize I'm old

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:31 AM

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they're the same as millenial just more depressed and shittier humor

finite atlas Nov 30, 2021, 12:31 AM

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as myself, i dont understand a lot of people, but i guess as long as they are happy with their choice, i dont have to

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:31 AM

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lies

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:32 AM

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Technically im genz but i dont act like normal genz'ers. Im actually boomery in some of my ways.

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but i do understand the humor

scenic radish Nov 30, 2021, 12:32 AM

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ok_boomer

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:32 AM

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Genz dosnt collect this stuff

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but boomers sure have the house packed full of antiques

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https://tenor.com/view/hide-the-pain-harold-gif-10575677

Tenor

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:33 AM

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has house full of pokemon stuff

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https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992

Tenor

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:34 AM

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But thats intergenerational

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like mcdonalds

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:34 AM

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......i mean yes, i have pokemone from different gen's

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TROLOLOLOL

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:34 AM

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but not blockbuster

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:34 AM

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jade tartan ......i mean yes, i have pokemone from different gen's

B O O M E R

scenic radish Nov 30, 2021, 12:34 AM

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Oh man, blockbuster

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:35 AM

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I MEMBER

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i remember renting n64 games from them

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and pleading with my parents for 1 more week

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lol

forest edge Nov 30, 2021, 12:35 AM

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crisp sapphire so anyone know why my magic home rgb controller refuses to connect to my wifi?

did you try setting them up in the app first?

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:35 AM

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scenic radish Oh man, blockbuster

Iv never been to a blockbuster. Wasnt a thing in sweden. But me & my friend use to go to the local movie rental store every week and rent horror to watch. We called it the "fake block buster"

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so in a way.. i did experience blockbuster

scenic radish Nov 30, 2021, 12:36 AM

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It can be fun asking Zoomers if they know what the save icon is

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:36 AM

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lol

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:36 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander_Keen

Commander Keen

Commander Keen is a series of side-scrolling platform video games developed primarily by id Software. The series consists of six main episodes, a "lost" episode, and a final game; all but the final game were originally released for MS-DOS in 1990 and 1991, while the 2001 Commander Keen was released for the Game Boy Color. The series follows the ...

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i remember loading this game

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on msdos

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with a 5.5 inch floppy

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:37 AM

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hey atleast zoomer parents wont ask they're kids to pause the online match for dinner

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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small wins.

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:37 AM

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to be fair, mine didnt

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:37 AM

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Same, wasnt a gamer.

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:38 AM

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i just explained it one time and they were like, oh ok

scenic radish Nov 30, 2021, 12:38 AM

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Anyone remember mini disc players? Not sure how popular they were outside the US

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:38 AM

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yes

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i still have a mini disc around some place

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no disc drive really tho

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lol

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i remember burning mini discs

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:39 AM

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ok so are any of you properly cultured?
Im talkin Commodore 64 and explicit registry flipping.

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:39 AM

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fit not alot of songs

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i didnt have a C64

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:39 AM

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That thing was a work of art

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a bloody work of art

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:40 AM

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scenic radish Anyone remember mini disc players? Not sure how popular they were outside the US

All i remember are cassettes

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and the occational floppy

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the 90's called, they want they're 2 MB unfillable drive back

scenic radish Nov 30, 2021, 12:41 AM

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Yeah I had a cassette walkman

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:41 AM

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i had several

scenic radish Nov 30, 2021, 12:41 AM

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And floppy disks...ugh

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Our elementary school had cameras that used floppy disks

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:42 AM

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had one of those

scenic radish Nov 30, 2021, 12:42 AM

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Or maybe middle school

crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 12:42 AM

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big brain

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:42 AM

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i remember when my grandparents got a cell phone for the RV

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big ass antenna

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on the roof

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a brick the size of a center console as the base

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and a little normal handset

scenic radish Nov 30, 2021, 12:43 AM

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And I distinctly remember a poster in the computer lab that said "why be floppy when you can be hard?" in reference to hard drives

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:44 AM

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LOL

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i loved the shit people snuck through in the 90's

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so much shit

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hell look at disney vhs releases

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LOL

green inlet Nov 30, 2021, 1:36 AM

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Laser disc players. 😎. Still have mine.

static schooner Nov 30, 2021, 1:38 AM

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at least it can hold a pizza

forest edge Nov 30, 2021, 4:23 AM

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lol laser disc. my uncle was so sure those were just gonna be the main stream media from then on out. has tons of movies for it and then the format died

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cracks me up everytime

static schooner Nov 30, 2021, 4:32 AM

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I’m amazed at how quickly streaming has equaled or surpassed what you can get on physical media. I can get Dolby Vision HDR 4K Atmos, etc and don’t feel that it’s compromised in any way

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 4:39 AM

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static schooner I’m amazed at how quickly streaming has equaled or surpassed what you can get on...

BlueRay players were expensive when that was a thing then streaming became a thing as they became cheaper so people jumped

hollow glacier Nov 30, 2021, 4:42 AM

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static schooner I’m amazed at how quickly streaming has equaled or surpassed what you can get on...

what's crazy is i can get better shit from torrents than you can as a paying customer with a lot of services

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iirc netflix caps 4k at like 40mbps? or they did at one point during lockdown

forest edge Nov 30, 2021, 4:50 AM

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hollow glacier what's crazy is i can get better shit from torrents than you can as a paying cus...

your getting rips of blurays

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what I find funny is many blurays come with a streamable download version which makes it easier for pirating, and the streaming services that release early content makes it easier for that stuff to be ripped as well

hollow glacier Nov 30, 2021, 4:55 AM

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Yea

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 4:58 AM

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hollow glacier iirc netflix caps 4k at like 40mbps? or they did at one point during lockdown

Think that was only for Europe during lockdown last year

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 4:58 AM

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jade tartan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander_Keen

Remember Duke Nukem? Hexen? Doom?

hollow glacier Nov 30, 2021, 5:02 AM

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Go to bed gramps

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https://tenor.com/view/im-in-my-prime-funny-ironic-age-old-gif-11480659

Tenor

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 5:04 AM

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but they were kewl classics!. Much better than your shitty pokemon crap

forest edge Nov 30, 2021, 5:07 AM

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duke nukem was my favorite lol

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https://youtu.be/D0GZ4Y9w6o0

YouTube

FUNCORE

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Subscribe to Funcore https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0N4K82icaTIuNSVNvinvig

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dusky plank Nov 30, 2021, 9:57 AM

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i have a client which shows a unknown route and I have no idea where it comes from, anybody have recommendations where to look? no interface has the subnet, wireguard was installed and connected with that route but I also removed that by now

low harness Nov 30, 2021, 10:06 AM

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Reminds me of this

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For the kids in the audience; that quote predates Wifi.

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 10:55 AM

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Reminds me of my friend who had a linux server running on a laptop in his closet

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he moved out at 15

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he found it when he was 21 and back home for a visit

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@dusky plank I've often had to find "rogue" machines, I usually just follow the mac address tables

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doesn't help much with wifi devices though... you get a certain sense of where they might be

dusky plank Nov 30, 2021, 11:01 AM

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yeah I cannot trace any mac to that route

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feck it, it gets formatted now

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 11:34 AM

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Noice

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got my NSX-T lab fully up and running

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with SNAT in and out

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and BGP towards opnsense

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 11:47 AM

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low harness Reminds me of this

that reminds me of a story where this was actually true. Only way to find it was to trace the cable - The server was found behind a wall that had been put in some time ago. Must have been a unix server, cos windows didnt have that sort of uptime lol

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 11:48 AM

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I've actually had a customer do that @strange crag

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roughly, 12 years ago

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said room was converted into a closet, but the cable went straight into the wall from the DC

ancient tapir Nov 30, 2021, 12:20 PM

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forest edge lol laser disc. my uncle was so sure those were just gonna be the main stream me...

I went down the HD DVD route, better technology than Blu-ray apparently, just like Beta Max was to VHS. I've got quite a few movies but sadly when I fired up the Toshiba HD-XE1 (btw best remote ever) recently she died on me and is now RIP in Media Player heaven.

low harness Nov 30, 2021, 12:38 PM

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Well... I'm off through the snow to have the winter tires put on. This will be a slooow journey.

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:39 PM

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strange crag but they were kewl classics!. Much better than your shitty pokemon crap

Say what again, i dare you, i double dare you.

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 12:39 PM

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This is why we put on winter tires before snow comes

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:39 PM

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We do?

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 12:39 PM

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Or just buy a new car with the winter tires already on smart

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:40 PM

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I wish

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I was looking at general artic 12

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 12:41 PM

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20" winter tires though 😢

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:41 PM

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Ouch

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 12:41 PM

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could be worse, I have 21" summer

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😄

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:41 PM

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Lol

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I have no reason to be nervous

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But i have bad anxiety

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 12:42 PM

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there is medication for that

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:42 PM

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Gotta leave in a min to go get fingerprinted and backround check for new job

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 12:42 PM

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Fingerprinted for a job

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wtf

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:42 PM

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Proper federal backround check

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 12:42 PM

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I'm cleared at the highest military levels, I have never been fingerprinted 😄

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:43 PM

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Large city school

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Iunno

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 12:43 PM

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Sounds like dystopian murica

jade tartan Nov 30, 2021, 12:43 PM

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Yeah unfortunately

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 12:45 PM

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Reminds me, I need to check why my oracle VM wasn't responding

low harness Nov 30, 2021, 1:06 PM

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Made it!

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Barely

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Had to slide uncontrollably down a hill backwards and pick a different route once.

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Next year I’m not waiting

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But I booked this time two weeks ago, and the snow arrived this morning…

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 1:10 PM

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Ah, just 1.5h until I have an active OOO email saying "piss off, I'm gone until febuary"

low harness Nov 30, 2021, 1:10 PM

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Nice!

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 1:10 PM

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angry american getting fired for taking holiday noises

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kek

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 1:32 PM

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On a fun note today. Roof space got to 50c with the sun and heat

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 1:33 PM

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Ooof

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We had -11c here yesterday

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my office is currently 15.5c, glad this is the last day here for two months

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 1:45 PM

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On and an even funnier note - I have worked inside roof spaces at that temp in the dust and the glass fibre insulation. Itch for days!

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hopefully one of these days some bright spark will come up with some non toxic friendly insulation.

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 1:50 PM

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Yep

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 1:50 PM

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strange crag On and an even funnier note - I have worked inside roof spaces at that temp in t...

Oh god I feel so sorry for you on that

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 1:50 PM

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I did work in my roof last week

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I didn't have a temp sensor up there

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But it was 30 degrees outside

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No anticon

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I actually didn't have any fibreglass woes though

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I wore vented goggles, a P2 mask and some gloves

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 1:51 PM

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yeah - the joys of cable running in summer. Although I feel even sorrier for people who install or work on top of a bright shiny tin roof in the sun.

scenic radish Nov 30, 2021, 1:51 PM

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my attic is a pain in the ass. hip roof with a very low pitch means i basically can't stand up anywhere in it, which means shuffling on 1x6 boards that are (thankfully) up there

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 1:51 PM

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Otherwise I was just in shorts and a tshirt

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My roof is actually pretty okay

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If I put some boards up there it would be even betyer

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But I need to go over the entire roof and supplement the insulation

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 1:52 PM

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The norwegian attics are usually called kryploft which directly translates to crawlattic which is a pita when you are 185cm

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 1:52 PM

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Then probably crosshatch R4 everywhere

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 1:53 PM

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I’ve never actually been up into my roof before funnily enough. No real need too

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Poked my head up there before though

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 1:53 PM

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That's what the dropbears want you to think

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 1:53 PM

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I was in overalls - stops most of the fibreglass, but heats you up even more. Also most australian roof spaces do not have crawl boards - you crawl across the rafters.

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 1:53 PM

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Have an old gravity fed hot water heater up there that’s just left because no need 😂

scenic radish Nov 30, 2021, 1:54 PM

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|| why do you need to heat the water if it's already hot ||

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 1:54 PM

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I don't think anyone has crawlboards from the builder

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You put them in yourself

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 1:54 PM

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scenic radish || why do you need to heat the water if it's already hot ||

Winter exists 😛

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 1:54 PM

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We have to run the water for a minute in summer

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When we want not hot water

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 1:54 PM

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Yeah I could do with a water aircon tbh during summer

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 1:55 PM

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Don't get evap it's a terrible technology

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 1:55 PM

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hushed basalt I don't think anyone has crawlboards from the builder

yes but no one here has large roof spaces so no one puts boards up there

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 1:55 PM

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You don't need much

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Just a few ripped sheets of particleboard

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Makes a hugggeee difference

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Get scraps from verge collection

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 1:56 PM

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hushed basalt Don't get evap it's a terrible technology

Nah was only teasing about the aircon. We’ve got reverse cycle for heating upstairs though. Works well

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(Plus daikin + home assistant works very well)

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 1:56 PM

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hushed basalt We have to run the water for a minute in summer

in summer in some places if you run the cold water for a minute you get hot water. Better to run it for shorter time lol Yes doesnt make sense.

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 1:56 PM

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I'm going to phase out my ducted system

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Replace it with splits

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 1:56 PM

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Stupid braemar heater downstairs, works fine but very closed smart control there

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 1:57 PM

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What's a braemar

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 1:57 PM

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Brand of central heating

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 1:58 PM

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Gas?

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 1:58 PM

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Yep

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 1:58 PM

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Ew. Get that thing in landfill as soon as you can

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 1:58 PM

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We couldn’t do much else unfortunately. Not without considerable expense

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 1:58 PM

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hushed basalt Ew. Get that thing in landfill as soon as you can

It’s brand new lol

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Cheaper to run than electricity though

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 1:58 PM

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Fortunately ducted gas is rare in Perth

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 1:59 PM

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gas heating is bettter than electric

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 1:59 PM

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It’s everywhere in Melbourne

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 1:59 PM

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@clear ferry defend heat pumps for me

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I'm too tired

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 1:59 PM

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for those of you in murica - gas here means propane

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 1:59 PM

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Natural gas

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 2:00 PM

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heat pumps are great

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:00 PM

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Propane is what you swap out at Bunnings

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 2:00 PM

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when norwegian power isn't 1800% of normal

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:00 PM

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same thing - just not petrol!

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 2:00 PM

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I have three heat pumps

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:00 PM

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We can’t actually do any change to our ducting here. Met requirements back in the 90s, not anymore (underfloor ducts for downstairs). Anything else other than a straight swap would require far more cost to do. Don’t worry we did consider it 🤣

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:00 PM

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Splllliittttsss

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Ducts are shit in Australia

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:01 PM

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Fuck splits. Take up so much room on the walls

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:01 PM

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Unless you have ducts in your thermal envelope, (spoiler alert no one does)

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:01 PM

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Plus need bulky outdoor units

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:01 PM

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I cant really see any difference between an electric heatpump for your hotwater and a standard electric hotwater service

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:01 PM

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That's a fair call

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But for heating and cooling, heat pumps are king, queen, and the whole court

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 2:01 PM

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lol ducts

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how american

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:02 PM

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Splits will cost you like 25% the cost to run for equivalent capacity

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I guarantee it

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 2:02 PM

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my split runs down to -20c ish

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which is nice too

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then I start pouring wood into the stove

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and cools the house fine up to +35c outside temp

clever mortar Nov 30, 2021, 2:03 PM

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strange crag I cant really see any difference between an electric heatpump for your hotwater ...

It's all about energy out for energy in. Heat pumps produce more heating/cooling than they consume

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:04 PM

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Plus gas requires another utility

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:04 PM

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If it’s already connected it doesn’t change too much

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:04 PM

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You pay for it

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 2:04 PM

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GAS 🤢

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:04 PM

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how? they are both using heating elements ( only talking hot water here)

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 2:04 PM

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air to air splits

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:04 PM

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Hot water? Heat pump hot water doesn't use heating elements

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 2:04 PM

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everything else is nonsense

clever mortar Nov 30, 2021, 2:05 PM

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https://www.stafor.lv/gb/ion-heating-boilers/about-heaters/cop---coefficient-of-performance

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There's plenty of good articles on how heat pumps work, sounds like you need to read some 😛

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:05 PM

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I can't blame someone for getting resistive element hot water though

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:05 PM

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hushed basalt Plus gas requires another utility

how many times have you lost power? versus how many time do you lose gas? Gas wins hands down. Less interruption and cheaper

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:05 PM

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Heat pump hot water is much more expensive and fragile

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Lol losing power

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That's like a 6 hour every 3+ year event

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 2:06 PM

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yeah, my samsung has a COP of 3.4

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:06 PM

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At best

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:06 PM

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I did read the blurb on heat pumps, but they still didnt convince me. Still looks like a conspiracy to sell new stuff

clever mortar Nov 30, 2021, 2:06 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/weird-al-crazy-wow-creepy-nuts-gif-5547782

Tenor

craycray

▶ Play video

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The basic tech ain't new

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:06 PM

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There's not much to it

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It's a heat pump, that heats water

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:07 PM

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Heat pumps for water seem they come with tiny hot water tanks though. Which isn’t great from what I can see

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:07 PM

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Not true at all

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All the same size tanks are available

clever mortar Nov 30, 2021, 2:07 PM

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You're moving energy around, and even at -40C/F there's a lot of energy there

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:07 PM

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Lots of heat pumps are standalone tanks and heat pumps

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:07 PM

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What’s the largest size that’s usually around

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:07 PM

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320L?

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:07 PM

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We got a quote, max was 200l

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Hmm will need to look at whether 320L would be suitable

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Either that or we would go instant flow hot water

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:10 PM

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a lot of people go for the instant gas hotwater, but thats much more expensive even though its supposed to save money by only being heated when you need it.

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it has to consume lots more gas to heat the flowing water

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:11 PM

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You'll likely see a cost saving of about 70-80% energy consumption charges for heat pump hot water

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:11 PM

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for a holiday house it would make sense tho

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:11 PM

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When you don’t use it as much it’ll end up being cheaper. Since it’s not heating constantly to keep warm (eg holiday home)

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Yeah

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:11 PM

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But there's a ROI and risk

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For heating and cooling though

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There's no contest

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:13 PM

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Unless you deal with install cost of new units

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If you already have ducted stuff it’s far cheaper to just replace with a ducted unit

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:14 PM

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We're talking Superman vs Nacho Libre.

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How much does a new duct heater cost

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And what's your gas bill

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Split systems are quite cheap

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:15 PM

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how long does it take for your heat pump to warm you up? does it have to be on a day or so in advance?

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:15 PM

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And you can't run your gas off solar

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Lol I dunno like 10 minutes

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:15 PM

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you could run biogas if you are so inclined lol

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:15 PM

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Biogas? From where

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:16 PM

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your arse! Sorry - if youi go to the off grid pages yoiu can find how to make your own biogas

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:16 PM

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But why not just use a heat pump

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Rather than manage your own waste treatment plant and gas processing

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:17 PM

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hushed basalt Split systems are quite cheap

About $2k per room right?

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1-2k that is I guess

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:17 PM

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You don't need it in every room

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That's a sign your house is in dire need of other things

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:18 PM

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During summer at least in my house you would be lucky to have one split system heat or cool an entire floor

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Not without running it constantly

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One room would end up warm. The others slowly if at all

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:19 PM

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https://youtu.be/8ZrzGjXTRAo

YouTube

Efficiency Matrix

Remodel/Renovation of a 1970's Home. For Low Energy & Serious Comfort.

Melbourne 1970's home's are common, and we cant knock down everything, in this video we cover a serious business retrofit of a poor performing old AV Jennings 1970's home to a high performer, where building performance is of the foremost of importance. Over a period of time, airtightness, effective ventilation, insulation consistency and glazin...

▶ Play video

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Here you go

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Old 1970s Victorian home

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Gas ducted heating, evaporative ducted cooling, 2 box aircondtioners

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All ripped out

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And replaced with a single 3kw split

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:20 PM

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yeah - evap is shit

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:20 PM

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7:53 timestamp

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:20 PM

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And how fast would that heat up the entire house though

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Or cool

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:20 PM

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It doesn't get that hot or cold inside

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That's the point of fixing all the things wrong with Australian houses

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We have some of the worst housing standards/expectations in the developed world

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:21 PM

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Did they cover how to inject insulation into a brick walled house? Without ripping plaster off that is

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:21 PM

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Yes

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:21 PM

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Since that just seems expensive when we looked into it

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:22 PM

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That's important to do but there's a dozen things with higher impact to do first

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:22 PM

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What would be the key issue then

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:23 PM

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Air sealing is always number 1

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Nothing else matters if your house isn't sealed

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:23 PM

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Oh god that would be thousands and thousands. Be more than the money saved

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Every window, door, etc would be replaced

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:23 PM

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Not necessarily,

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Plus theres comfort * cost * health

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It's not an apples to oranges comparision

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Hence why the video says 'comfort and energy makeover'

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:25 PM

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Regardless of any of the above, parents house and they hate split systems and how they look. Prefer hidden systems like ducted

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Small cost is better than big units sticking out

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Also just having a smarter controller for the gas central heating meant it didn't need to run as much as the old unit (that was touching 30 years old with a mercury bulb thermostat)

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:29 PM

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I'm off to bed,

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But most of your air tightness loss isn't actually coming from your windows and doors

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My bet is you have exhaust fans in your bathrooms and toilets

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With no dampers

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And rangehood

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:31 PM

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awful lot of insulation going on tho

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as calmelb said would have cost heaps to do and to hell with any tradie who comes to do a later job - its all gummed up

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also they didnt say anything about windows - betting they were double glazed at least.

hushed basalt Nov 30, 2021, 2:33 PM

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In the walls?

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Insulation is off topic for what I'm talking about right now,

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But blown in insulation doesn't effect running new cables etc

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But none of this is all or nothing

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It's about strategically attacking the weakest link incrementally

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Which I can almost guarantee is your exhaust fans

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Then door and window weather strips

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And downlights

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None of that is big ticket items

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And can all be fixed in a long weekend for very little cost and have a huge payback

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Assuming you don't have a fireplace

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If so that thing is the first to go

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:43 PM

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What if you actually like having a fireplace thoguh

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:44 PM

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they sealed the join between the roof insulation and the wall insulation - which is where any cables can be dropped down the wall to appear on a wall plate.

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:45 PM

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@strange crag are you a sparkie?

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:45 PM

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also they sealed the underfloor area - so no cables and pipes can be run afterwards. I would hate to be a tradie at that place - or I would charge sooo much to fix all the stuff I would need to break to get my job done

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used to be a cable jockey

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:46 PM

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What did that involve?

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:46 PM

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in the current vernacular a comms tech

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running phone and data cables

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:47 PM

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Ahh nice

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:47 PM

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thats why I know about hot roofs etc and wall cavities

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:47 PM

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Makes sense

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I looked into being certified cabler to run my own ethernet at home, but stupid amount of supervised experience needed 😄

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:51 PM

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Can anyone tell me, or point me to some info on the possibliltiy of using openCV on a headless and gui'less rpi? Want to be able to recognise things and act on it. Have seen plenty of utubes, but all use a gui.

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heheh I didnt need to be certified back then (telstra), but it helps to be insane lol

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:53 PM

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What does openCV do?

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:53 PM

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computer vision

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usually used for robotics

clever mortar Nov 30, 2021, 2:53 PM

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Or Terminators

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:54 PM

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can also be used for licence plate detection - or other objects

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:54 PM

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strange crag heheh I didnt need to be certified back then (telstra), but it helps to be insan...

Yeah just want to actually be able to put an ethernet cable in if I wanted to rather than tucking it around the carpet or around the roof/ etc. Not fun

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:54 PM

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strange crag can also be used for licence plate detection - or other objects

Ooh thats cool

clever mortar Nov 30, 2021, 2:56 PM

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HA has some integrations for that too

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:57 PM

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just dont run your data cables in parallel with other data or power cables or they pick up noise ( even the shielded ones do)

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@clever mortar what sort of integrations? Certainly wont be under opencv and integrations dont have any blurb that goes with it before you hit the install button lol

clever mortar Nov 30, 2021, 2:59 PM

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You mean, other than OpenCV and OpenALPR?

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And others

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations#image-processing

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 2:59 PM

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strange crag just dont run your data cables in parallel with other data or power cables or th...

Yeah I live in an apartment, I don't want the body corporate getting their noses stuck into what would be an illegal install. Understand you don't want them together if possible of course (just like I would know how to install a light switch or power point, but again insurance and risk of death/ no money/ fire/ body corporate)

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 2:59 PM

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Have you seen boston dynamics robots - the humanoid one is sort of like the terminator!

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yeah - fair enuff on that front calmelb

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:01 PM

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First time apartment living is interesting

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Found out that im limited to 1 type of lock due to the front door being a fire door

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:01 PM

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umbral cliff Yeah I live in an apartment, I don't want the body corporate getting their noses...

Shove a camera inside against your windows

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:01 PM

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Which is not fun

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:01 PM

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It’s in your private space viewing public spaces

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Well in Texas :p

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:02 PM

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clever mortar You mean, other than OpenCV and OpenALPR?

well I am greatly surprised - thanks mate!

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:02 PM

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brisk glen Shove a camera inside against your windows

Don

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*dont think I will need a camera

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But it is on the cards 😄

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:02 PM

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I have 4 in my apartment

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:02 PM

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Probably don't need any internal to the apartment, but still thinking about where they could go

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:03 PM

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Wondering about the peephole cameras…

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I have my reserved parking in view of my bedroom window… so camera there

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:03 PM

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hey Cal - dont you need a HA bot? lol

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:03 PM

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Balcony, camera there

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:04 PM

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strange crag hey Cal - dont you need a HA bot? lol

What do you mean?

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:04 PM

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I use frigate for presence detection, so cameras that are firewalled off from the world inside

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Works really well with zones

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:05 PM

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one that recognises you, unlocks the door, turns on the tunes, etc etc

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:05 PM

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More like keep the lights on if a person is still in the room

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:06 PM

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strange crag one that recognises you, unlocks the door, turns on the tunes, etc etc

Would be fun to have, no smart door lock that is fire safe rated though. Hell only deadlatch is the lockwood 001. Bloody monopoly there

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:06 PM

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1 camera = 5,6? Occupancy sensors

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Fire safe?

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What about those that go on the deadbolt?

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You can still manually rotate it

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:07 PM

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No deadbolt allowed. Deadlatch only

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And if I am to appease the fire department it has to be completely free of anything smart that could hinder it from opening

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Its crazy insane and not fun

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:08 PM

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could make a servo controlled attachment for your door lock? Now thats getting keen lol
OTOH having a camera outside the door can warn you of incoming visitors and if recognised then saying their names

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:08 PM

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Since when can you not have a deadbolt?

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:08 PM

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brisk glen Fire safe?

Door opens to a fire/smoke proof staircase. Strict rules have to be there

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:08 PM

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brisk glen Since when can you not have a deadbolt?

Deadbolt can prevent the door from fully closing. Has to be a latch only

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:08 PM

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But not your room door

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:09 PM

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Apartment door is what opens to the staircase. Thats the entrance to my apartment generally

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No point having a lock on my bedroom lol

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:09 PM

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State?

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:09 PM

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victoria

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:09 PM

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Probably some state dependent bullshit

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:10 PM

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will probably be national on that one

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:10 PM

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Nah this is for the ACT (moving there soon)

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But its a national standard for fire doors

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:10 PM

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Additionally, all external doors that can be locked must be secured with a functioning deadlock. This applies to all tenants renting out a residential space.

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:11 PM

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you gonna have to change your name ! Calact

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:11 PM

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Im still a melbourne boy at heart! 😄

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:12 PM

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actually - following your current naming scheme it should be calcan

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:12 PM

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deadlatch

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:12 PM

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umbral cliff Deadbolt can prevent the door from fully closing. Has to be a latch only

You can have one….

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:12 PM

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where are you MichaelW?

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:12 PM

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This is the sort of stuff that we're allowed @brisk glen

0003381_lockwood-001-1k1-double-cylinder-deadlatch-sp.png

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:12 PM

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https://www.secureyourworld.com.au/blog/changes-to-victorian-rental-laws

Secure Your World

Changes to Victoria’s renting laws: Rental provider must provide a ...

www.secureyourworld.com.au

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:12 PM

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It has to be fire approved though

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Which not many are unfortunately. No smart ones are

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:14 PM

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cos in the event of a fire there may be no power so door would be stuffed.

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:14 PM

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Even the lockwood 001 smart add on specifically says it isn't fire rated

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:14 PM

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Where is this fire proof

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:14 PM

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Fire rated =/= fire proof

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Basically they have to meet a standard

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:15 PM

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But where does it say this?

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The august smart lock goes on an existing dead latch

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So you get one that is fireproof

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:15 PM

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In the case of Fire Doors, the lock must be self-latching and be fire rated in accordance with AS1905.1. A fire rated automatic door closer must also be fitted. Only fire rated hardware may be fitted to fire rated doors.

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:16 PM

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Fire door….

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:16 PM

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It is a fire door

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Thats the issue

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:16 PM

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and the only other way out is a drop from the balcony>???

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:16 PM

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It opens to a fire/smoke proof staircase so must meet all the rules

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PITA but eh not much I can do

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:17 PM

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is it a highrise or smaller?

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:17 PM

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2 story (well 3 including a carpark)

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:17 PM

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suburban is probably a better term?

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:17 PM

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No no

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Your apartment door is not a fire door

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:18 PM

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Well it sure is required to meet the requirements

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And is rated to be a fire door

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So I don't fancy making a mistake and getting a fine and a new fire door

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:19 PM

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The actual doorset is only a part of the Exit from a building.

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:19 PM

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brisk glen The actual doorset is only a part of the Exit from a building.

Not if it is part of a fire/smoke proof staircase. Then each apartment building must have a proper door

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Fire Door: A Fire Door is a door that enters a fireproof stairway or tunnel. The door itself is made from a special fire resistant material, and has a fire rating compliance tag fitted to the hinge edge of the door. A steel fire resistant door frame is also used.

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:20 PM

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Ok but nothing is stopping you from replacing the deadlock turn knob

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:20 PM

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Well if it isn't fire safe then the fire department sure is

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:20 PM

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The dead latch itself is fireproof

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:20 PM

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Because the fire doors get inspected annually

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And if any part isn't up to standard I can't

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:20 PM

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All compliance is met

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:21 PM

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All of them say not to be fitted on a fire door (if they're from australia)

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For example this one: https://www.lockweb.com.au/en/lockwood-products/keyless-entry/001touch-keyless-deadlatch/

lockweb.com.au

Lockwood 001Touch™

Lockwoods new stylish digital touch screen keypad deadlatch.

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I just really don't want to get fines from the body corporate & the fire department if I make the door not in code

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:24 PM

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is that the one in melb or canberra?

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:24 PM

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Apartment is in canberra

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Parents house in Melb, house so we can do whatever we want (within reason) but no fire door there

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:25 PM

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bummer - if it was the other way aroujnd it would only be for a short time, but thats the way the biscuit crumbles lol

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:25 PM

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August smart lock should be fine

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As long as you don’t drill any new holes

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:26 PM

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Unless it is clear that it says it can be fitted to a fire door Im not gonna make any risks

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Ill just accept a dumb lock

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:26 PM

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Can you change out the knob on the dead latch?

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:28 PM

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On the inside? If that can't be nudged with your arm then its not up to standard

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Just like powerpoints and switches, unless it comes with an australian standard for this sort of stuff I am not gonna risk it

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:29 PM

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https://support.august.com/deadbolt-compatibility-list-rkzJDLyR_G

What Deadbolts are Compatible with August Smart Locks?

We have tested August on many different types of single cylinder deadbolts. Below is a list of deadbolts that we have tested that are compatible with August ...

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Contact them, say you really want to buy their product but are not sure about the upside down ausi laws

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Let them confirm it for you 🙂 any sales rep will send a quick email to the company lawyer for confirmation

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:31 PM

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I would be surprised if they would meet requirements. Given lockwood (major player here) hasn't done anything then there must be a larger issue

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:32 PM

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This does not replace the entire lock

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:32 PM

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More than likely that a) it needs to be a latch not a bolt, b) still needs to have all parts fire safe

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:32 PM

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The only thing this replaces is that inside knob

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Which are replaceable and standard

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:33 PM

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Not if its built into the unit, which I wouldn't be surprised if it is

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Remember, fire standard means the whole unit

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One change and its no longer up to the standard

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And for something that carries heavy fines Im happy to just stay on the safe side overall

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Also because the lock is more like this type which isn't compatible

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:37 PM

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I am with Cal on this one - messing with the firestandards is bad!

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:37 PM

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Oh, it’s one of those

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Ew

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:37 PM

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are you asutralian Michael?

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australian*

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:37 PM

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strange crag I am with Cal on this one - messing with the firestandards is bad!

Fire standards and electrical standards are the two things I don’t mess with. Especially with some of the electrical stuff from China 😂

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:38 PM

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Anything from Ali express is a fire hazard

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:38 PM

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heck even american stuff is bad cos they dont seem to understand that 240v is much worse than 120v lol

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:39 PM

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strange crag heck even american stuff is bad cos they dont seem to understand that 240v is mu...

What do you mean it’s double the power 😄

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:39 PM

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lol

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and it has an extra pin!

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:40 PM

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#integrations-archived if you’ve already chosen the hardware!

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:41 PM

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should be integrations

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:41 PM

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Or #cameras-archived if you want help picking a webcam

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Then #integrations-archived would be perfect!

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(Hope it’s not also streaming to the internet too)

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Smart smart

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:42 PM

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you might also note that there may be 2 streams from it

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one that is full def and one that is less than full def

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:43 PM

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Keep that dam thing in its own VLAN with no network access

strange crag Nov 30, 2021, 3:44 PM

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goodnight gents - enjoy

umbral cliff Nov 30, 2021, 3:44 PM

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Night!

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 3:47 PM

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Most noise on the network… oh no

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It’s probing you

topaz quest Nov 30, 2021, 4:00 PM

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Hi, I have an issue with my HA MQTT Mosquitto broker not receiving messages but it's working fine on a locally running Mosquitto instance, is this the right place to ask for troubleshooting help?

clever mortar Nov 30, 2021, 4:06 PM

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You should read the channel topics @topaz quest

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This one says no support

topaz quest Nov 30, 2021, 4:06 PM

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My bad, apologies

clever mortar Nov 30, 2021, 4:06 PM

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If that's the Mosquitto add-on you should start in the #add-ons-archived channel

topaz quest Nov 30, 2021, 4:06 PM

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Would this fall under #integrations-archived or #add-ons-archived ?

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Got it, thank you

left ore Nov 30, 2021, 6:47 PM

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I'm going to have to tame my desires. I'm up to like $4000 on automating my home lol

clever mortar Nov 30, 2021, 6:50 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/kosh-and-so-it-begins-babylon5-its-starting-gif-17941773

Tenor

finite atlas Nov 30, 2021, 6:50 PM

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ouch

orchid rose Nov 30, 2021, 6:54 PM

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eventually you'll run out of things to automate - or money

finite atlas Nov 30, 2021, 6:55 PM

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or the will to live

orchid rose Nov 30, 2021, 7:02 PM

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That's usually the second step when picking up HA

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Once you figure it out, it's too easy to do most things to lose the will to live

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 7:20 PM

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I spend more than that on roadside sausages per year

orchid rose Nov 30, 2021, 7:22 PM

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Sausage is a euphemism here right?

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 7:27 PM

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https://c.tenor.com/2cFDusQDDswAAAAM/prairie-dog-disappear.gif

clever mortar Nov 30, 2021, 7:46 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/hungry-feed-me-gif-5904122

Tenor

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 7:46 PM

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socks to be you, I'm all done

dusky plank Nov 30, 2021, 8:18 PM

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who tf is responsible for the naming of SAT>IP

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it's got basically nothing to do with IP

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 8:33 PM

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What is that? Murica tech?

dusky plank Nov 30, 2021, 8:35 PM

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it's actually quite impressive how much data bandwidth a satellite has

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 8:36 PM

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Yes, it's in pretty low orbit so

orchid rose Nov 30, 2021, 8:45 PM

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Before Elon crashes them all down with his 5000 or so satellites 🙂

clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 8:48 PM

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Crashing starlink you say, great way to get rural America offline

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 8:53 PM

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T-Mobile 5g home internet is nice, 500 down, 40 up

last cedar Nov 30, 2021, 8:53 PM

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Wow, impressive

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I wonder how it will be when it is over congested

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 9:01 PM

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Rural area

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Not enough density to ever make it congested due to how far apart the houses are

last cedar Nov 30, 2021, 9:03 PM

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Upstream though? It could well be a relay station close by?

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 9:03 PM

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It’s Michigan

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Only congestion is when the tower is down for a day, but there’s another tower that still gives ok speeds

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Tower is only down for repairs etc

last cedar Nov 30, 2021, 9:05 PM

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Fair enough!

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 9:05 PM

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Omg, I was sent a cutout of Ryan Reynolds

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crisp sapphire Nov 30, 2021, 9:08 PM

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dusky plank it's actually quite impressive how much data bandwidth a satellite has

and its pretty shitty in comparison to what they're aiming for. But fundementally speaking there's nothing limiting the sats from pushing 10's of Tbps down to 10's of thousands of dishes. Unlike wifi (and almost all other radios), spectrum isnt the limiting factor.

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 9:13 PM

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My elf on the shelf 😂

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clear ferry Nov 30, 2021, 9:17 PM

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brisk glen T-Mobile 5g home internet is nice, 500 down, 40 up

Almost as good as the data capped 1000/10 fiber i hear about

brisk glen Nov 30, 2021, 9:24 PM

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It’s T-Mobile or atnt trying to charge insane fees or starlink

fallow karma Nov 30, 2021, 10:47 PM

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https://youtu.be/M0-krPWJ0nM

YouTube

zMajster

Let's do some cars!

Just a trailer. Music under CC license from https://freemusicarchive.org/music/mr-smith

▶ Play video

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Be so kind i give me like or sub if u liked it

forest edge Dec 1, 2021, 2:25 AM

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what the hell did i just watch

green inlet Dec 1, 2021, 2:40 AM

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For once @forest edge , PREACH

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🤣

glacial knot Dec 1, 2021, 3:47 AM

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a fake Michelle https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/11/30/a027d61b97e3d44b.mp4

▶ Play video

last cedar Dec 1, 2021, 5:47 AM

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glacial knot a fake Michelle https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/11/30/a027d61b97e3d44b.mp4

ITS SO CUTE THOUGH

glacial knot Dec 1, 2021, 5:50 AM

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it is

fallow karma Dec 1, 2021, 5:53 AM

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forest edge what the hell did i just watch

Some junk cars i revived last few years

clear ferry Dec 1, 2021, 8:08 AM

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Dis U @last cedar ?

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https://v.redd.it/bala23yynv281

Look Kiddo what i can do

Posted in r/youseeingthisshit by u/shazow_Rakib • 35 points and 5 comments

glacial knot Dec 1, 2021, 8:12 AM

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which one?

clear ferry Dec 1, 2021, 8:15 AM

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https://c.tenor.com/odyVsZbC-OYAAAAM/why-not-both-why-not.gif

last cedar Dec 1, 2021, 9:37 AM

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clear ferry https://v.redd.it/bala23yynv281

I was so elegant

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https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-escape-viralhog-running-away-fail-fall-gif-17821787

Tenor

finite atlas Dec 1, 2021, 11:05 AM

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you still are

subtle pasture Dec 1, 2021, 11:50 AM

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New intel 12th gen system is a go 👀

clear ferry Dec 1, 2021, 11:51 AM

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Such multiplier wow

glacial knot Dec 1, 2021, 11:51 AM

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subtle pasture New intel 12th gen system is a go 👀

Is that yours?

subtle pasture Dec 1, 2021, 11:51 AM

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Yeah

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Got the P cores at 5 GHz, and the E cores at 4.1 GHz. Cinebench R23 score: 20,000

clear ferry Dec 1, 2021, 11:53 AM

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Be careful, the amd fanbois will surely arrive soon and say Intel is dead soon

subtle pasture Dec 1, 2021, 11:54 AM

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Let 'em squawk. This i5 12600k costs the same as a Ryzen 5 5600x, and is twice as fast 🤷‍♀️

clear ferry Dec 1, 2021, 11:55 AM

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NUT

subtle pasture Dec 1, 2021, 11:56 AM

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The i5 12600k is actually faster than every single 11th gen chip (including the Core i9 11900k)

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Intel basically made 11th gen pointless with a $299 chip

dusky plank Dec 1, 2021, 11:57 AM

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ARM fanboy here

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Intel is dead soon

finite atlas Dec 1, 2021, 11:57 AM

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Risc-V Fanboy here
ya'll burn in hell soon

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the i5 might be blazing fast, but its also blazing a lot of power into oblivion
but for now, i'm still happy with my 3600 and dont need to bother with a new cpu

dusky plank Dec 1, 2021, 11:58 AM

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that small intel die 🤏 overheat much, very limit heatdissipation

subtle pasture Dec 1, 2021, 11:58 AM

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finite atlas the i5 might be blazing fast, but its also blazing a lot of power into oblivion ...

Not really. Idle temp of 28c, load temp of 65c

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And that's overclocked...

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On air cooling...

finite atlas Dec 1, 2021, 11:59 AM

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look at the power usage

subtle pasture Dec 1, 2021, 11:59 AM

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Reports of 12th gen being hot were greatly exagerated

dusky plank Dec 1, 2021, 11:59 AM

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have you seen the m1max ?

subtle pasture Dec 1, 2021, 11:59 AM

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The power usage is lower than my old CPU. lol

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130w while overclocked

dusky plank Dec 1, 2021, 11:59 AM

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super coooool ❄️

subtle pasture Dec 1, 2021, 11:59 AM

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My old i7 5960x got near 260w while overclocked

finite atlas Dec 1, 2021, 11:59 AM

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my r5 3600 is at 45w at full load stock

subtle pasture Dec 1, 2021, 12:00 PM

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finite atlas my r5 3600 is at 45w at full load stock

It also offers less than half the performance of a 12600k...

clear ferry Dec 1, 2021, 12:00 PM

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Did someone say itanium