I love this one
#the-water-cooler
restive vapor
forest edge
wow the process to add in custom svg icons in ha is a pain lol
dusky plank
life is a pain
finite atlas
yes, hence why i keep my oleds on a lower brightness value and try to avoid pure blacks
finite atlas
i would like my body not to be broken when i turn 50
dusky plank
forest edge
Wonder how far the German and American inflations will rise
Don't worry, won't be getting anywhere near as big as your head.
clear ferry
dusky plank
fellow citizens send link to obvious fake news
me: this is wrong
them: but it shows https:// !!
clear ferry
https://fakene.ws
glacial knot
did you place a <name of person is dumb.html> site which contains exactly what the name suggests on a server real quick?
clear ferry
glacial knot
also, if you need a dumb domain for this kind astuff, I own https://suspiciouslinkfrommisachiever.com for very related reasons
clear ferry
I should buy https://www.hurensohn.de to @dusky plank for Christmas
dusky plank
it's not available 😔
clear ferry
dusky plank
I already tried
glacial knot
proper single german word in the .de space is almost entirely reserved
clear ferry
I should just get https://www.klootzak.nl then
glacial knot
just get .eu
dusky plank
i have .tirol
glacial knot
meh. .bayern domains are 50€/year 😦
clever mortar
Sadly I can't get fub.ar
clear ferry
Just get oldfa.rt
static schooner
Sigh. Was planning to go to the LA Auto Show today, but wanted to see BMW and they're a no-show
subtle pasture
is sna.fu available? 🤔
wet pilot
went to the Charlotte Auto Show and almost none of the new cool things were there
clear ferry
wai.fu
wet pilot
mainly because the cars were provided by local dealers and they didn't even have them
static schooner
there's nothing for me in LA this year
wet pilot
got to test drive a 2-door bronco though, so that was fun
static schooner
yeah, I think I'm going to wait until next year to look seriously
wet pilot
also scubi brought some prototypes. they had a BRZ and a WRX there
static schooner
some of the BMWs are shipping new without touchscreens due to part availability
subtle pasture
Still waiting for a factory supercharged / turbocharged GT86/BRZ...
wet pilot
it'll never happen
subtle pasture
They just keep adding 5 horsepower every hear. lol
wet pilot
but at least they fixed the torque dip in this gen
subtle pasture
I mean, the torque dip was always fixable: Swap from an exhaust manifold to headers
That's what I did to my 2013 GT86 🤷♀️
wet pilot
nice
static schooner
With the pot plant
I have an Audi S5 now, but didn't really like their new stuff and haven't paid much attention this year
clear ferry
Eh, the 5 series is boring, old man cars 
wet pilot
i'm interested in the 2023 Taco and Ranger
subtle pasture
The FA20 doesn't seem to like exhaust backpressure at low RPM, so a better exhaust helps a ton.
wet pilot
wanted to see the new GTI/R but they didn't have any
static schooner
was initially looking at an M4 coupe, but that i4...
clear ferry
wet pilot
got to test drive a single motor Polestar 2, that was fun
subtle pasture
Side note: Finding CARB legal headers for the GT86 was a bitch
But I really didn't want to have to take them off for smog every year, so... worth it
clear ferry
got to test drive a single motor Polestar 2, that was fun
I had a polestar 2 a few weeks ago, shitty drive quality and cramped cockpit imo
wet pilot
didn't feel too bad but i was in it for maybe 20m tops
static schooner
https://youtu.be/aURAGhSMApM
That's really concept-y. I wonder what'll survive to production
clear ferry
Very
wet pilot
i did like the polestar2 interior and layout better than the Model3 so there's that at least
clear ferry
Anything beats a Tesla in both interior and drive comfort
subtle pasture
https://youtu.be/aURAGhSMApM
That is the stupidest center console I've ever seen
clear ferry
Tbh, the id3 was an upgrade from the polestar 2
subtle pasture
Why is there a flowerpot built into the car?
wet pilot
i wouldn't pay 60k for it
clear ferry
If I replaced my V70 i would probably do a id3 or id4, the XC90 covers most of my large car needs now
wet pilot
i'm interested in the Korean companies versions
clear ferry
The Kia electric with 800v charging is interesting
0-100% in 28 minutes
If I would buy a full size electric I would probably still buy the byd tang or the hongqi e-hs9
wet pilot
the honky e-hisss-nine?
clear ferry
I can hear the Louisiana accent already
wet pilot
we don't have either of those companies here
clear ferry
We have all the Chinese ones here
Since they build better EVs than the US, all my colleagues with tesla that have changed to newer Tesla that are built in China say the quality upgrade is very noticeable
glacial knot
of course you have all the chinese ones. You got volvo D:
dusky plank
oh, i forgot the KTM xbow
orchid rose
imagine a whole country subsidizing Musk and China 😬
EVs are tax free in Norway while regular cars pay easily 100% in tax and in many cases a lot more
clear ferry
Yes, the car tax is pretty bonkers
I bought a Audi A8 used for €5k in 2015, if I was to import a better one from Germany, I would pay €3k for it in Germany and €15k in import tax
orchid rose
Haha, I don't think it's quite that crazy around here, but still pretty high
willow sundial
When will they all be self driving cars?
dusky plank
all? probably 2200
clear ferry
Probably 2035-40
dusky plank
all. around the world.
clear ferry
dusky plank
eehhh i will move to wpa3 now
wonder what devices might fall off
anybody here use 802.11r Fast Transition ?
classic iot, roborock doesnt like it
static schooner
my recollection from Unifi is that it doesn't really speed up transitions
and has compatibility issues like you're seeing
last cedar
was initially looking at an M4 coupe, but that i4...
The old m4 is just amazing
last cedar
and has compatibility issues like you're seeing
That is why it is faster
Only 5% of products work on it
It can't be slower 🤣
dusky plank
i resorted to a wpa2/3 mixed ssid for the netatmo and roborock, take that super long komplex password you stupid devices!
last cedar
Wait, you lot are protecting your wireless networks?
clever mortar
Yeah, I wrapped the AP in tinfoil to keep the hackers out
orchid rose
Tinkerer was faster
dusky plank
I see 2342934 ssids in my area, I expect one of these tools to hash my pw if its too weak, so yes
usb coral ordered 🥳
orchid rose
Voraussichtlich ab 17.1.2022 verfügbar. 😢
dusky plank
go to ebay and buy one for triple the price if you want it now
orchid rose
Well sure, but I wouldn't necessarily trust they'll get them by that date either
dusky plank
i can only hope, yes, but they are serious and i believe the only place rn where you can even place a order
orchid rose
yeah I tried to look some time ago as well and just nothing anywhere
the m.2 models were available but don't have a slot for those
clear ferry
I see 2342934 ssids in my area, I expect one of these tools to hash my pw if its...
I got 2342934 ssids but a bitch ain't one
I have a spare coral in my drawer if anybody wants it
dusky plank
usb?
dusky plank
neeed usb
clear ferry
dusky plank
clear ferry
Hey, did you find out @clever mortar side business
clever mortar
||I sell souls... I have a fine collection of them||
clear ferry
finite atlas
*Voraussichtlich ab 17.1.2022 verfügbar.* 😢
just get the m.2 version and a m.2 adapter
orchid rose
Are there USB m.2 adapters that would work?
finite atlas
havent heard anything for that adapter specifically, but i think those for m.2 nvme ssds might work
clever mortar
The ones for WiFi would be more likely given the keying
clear ferry
I use my M2 in a pcie adapter
But the keying on the dual one needs a slot that supports bifurcation
clear ferry
Unfair posting a gif of @forest edge at this hour
verbal wind
Cross posting here from #hardware-archived - Some of my best early black friday finds.
#hardware-archived message
serene nymph
Hi, I'm interested in building my own home automation with as many open source services/apis or scripts I can write myself. I am new to home automation, but I am a young software developer and currently do a lot with Docker, Kubernetes, Java, Python etc. I was wondering what home assistant installation people recommend if I want to be very flexible with my own services deployed on my own server in a Kubernetes cluster? Could home assistant perhaps also be deployed on Kubernetes so that it is easier to access those other self-written services?
serene nymph
Alright. Are there any limitations I need to be aware of?
dusky plank
you run in unsupported territory witk k8s
serene nymph
So maybe a better solution to run #449717345808547842 on a Raspberry Pi and access those own services on my server in the Kubernetes cluster from the Raspberry Pi?
dusky plank
thats what i do yes
umbral cliff
Damn I missed the car talk
hushed basalt
Does anyone know of a good easy way to remove rust from aluminium chemically
The gas cooking elements have got all brown where they were in contact with the cast iron cover plates
Way too many surfaces to clean it mechanically
young sigil
Coke. The brown liquid. Not the white powder. Soak overnight.
forest edge
get you some evapo-rust if you can. that stuff works wonders
it's no toxic so can be used for anything
static schooner
Dessert topping?
forest edge
non toxic dosen't mean ingestion. it's like CLR. just make sure you throughly rinse before sticking it in your mouth lol
static schooner
CLR is pretty good, too
umbral cliff
Oh wow that’s a lot of snow
The most snow I’ve seen in australia (excluding the mountains) is a light flurry that fell in 2019 in Canberra
umbral cliff
That say 2.4m of snow?
clear ferry
yes
clear ferry
Had to excavate my sister from the basement apartment every morning for a few months
orchid rose
Thank god for the Scandi mountains. You can keep all that snow
orchid rose
it is quite nice
umbral cliff
(Also funny reading the manual for my bmw and it talking about winter stuff, then having the Australian supplemental document say it’s not relevant lol)
umbral cliff
Do you guys in Europe have winter/ summer tyres like in the USA?
clear ferry
In scandinavia we have studded tires
dusky plank
same here
clear ferry
umbral cliff
Australia we have all year tyres so have no clue what is done overseas tbh
dusky plank
I visit the audi test area every winter, lots of drifting fun
umbral cliff
If you go to the mountains you are required to have 4WD or chains on your tyres or both
But otherwise swapping tyres isn’t a thing here
clear ferry
we have them on 6 months a year
umbral cliff
Is it harder to drive on snow?
dusky plank
it's easier to make mistakes, by a lot
clear ferry
It's like driving a bike
umbral cliff
it's easier to make mistakes, by a lot
Like skidding/ sliding?
dusky plank
yes
you go 1 speed unit above whats reasonable, you run into big trouble
if you don't know how to handle it you can easily crash your car and take others with you
umbral cliff
I wasn’t even born in 97 😂😅
dusky plank
99 was also not bad
opaque girder
I can't find my folder now with all the 90's pictures but I remember there was a pretty impressive year for Greek snow standards
thick valley
Not sure where to post it, but I'm brand new to home automation, looking to start getting hardware, and know I want to use Home Assistant
Where's a good resource or chat location to figure out what sort of switches to get?
static schooner
#hardware-archived , and please respond to the questions in the pinned message there
finite atlas
https://imgur.com/a/gAZK5pq
can you ship some of that snow to me?
last cedar
Hakka 8?
last cedar
They are real good
I put Michelins on the Volvo though :)
Those are amazing a lot less road noise, many small spikes
And good grip even in the dry
last cedar
Oh yepp
Good thing you make more in a month than we all make together in a life time
🤣
Those are enormous
21 inch
My wheels could fit in your tryes
clear ferry
Yes they are fooking huge
last cedar
Oh my lord
If you ever forget where you park, call Nasa
They can see those wheels from space
last cedar
Hoping to be able to get my new car integrated when it arrives
clear ferry
In 2023 you say
dusky plank
static schooner
Revenge!
forest edge
so do norwats eat the goat that provides the brown cheese for thanksgiving?
clear ferry
No, we don't need to celebrate slaughtering of natives as we've just stayed here the whole time
Except that time we went to @clever mortar to grab females and returned home
clever mortar
forest edge
he means they took your sheep
clever mortar
It's fine, we'll steal them back again.
I mean, come on, the Romans built a wall to stop us doing that, and it didn't really change anything
clear ferry
There was a pub when I lived in Dublin called "The Sheepshagger"
Wonder if it is still there
forest edge
doubtful i read interpol really started cracking down on sex traffiking
clear ferry
dusky plank
last cedar
In 2023 you say
If the magnesium shortage is to be believed then maybe
umbral cliff
Yay car in for service, let’s see how much it’ll cost me 😂
clear ferry
Let me tell you about when the local importer wanted $5000 to do a regular service plus water pump on my 16 year old audi A8L @umbral cliff
Drove to Sweden and got it done for $1000
umbral cliff
Jesus…. Was that a golden water pump?
clear ferry
The Audi importer in Norway is... Known to overcharge
umbral cliff
The Audi importer in Norway is... Known to overcharge
Ah that makes sense… not good sense but understandable why they charge so much
I’ve got to look after my 3 series bmw that’s 21 years old
Great car
Just…. Pricy…
clear ferry
Only BMW's I have ever wanted were a 70s 6series, a 80/90s 7 series or a X7
I've driven a few 3s and 5s, but they were all shite
The 8 was ok, but not for me
umbral cliff
The E46 (2000-2004) is a nice 3 series. Safe and mostly modern but has the old school charm that’s missing nowadays
Just bmw made stupid decisions in some areas
Cheap plastic cooling parts mean coolant leaks at least every 4 months
clear ferry
All the 4cyl 90s ones were rubbish
umbral cliff
Yeah I only own the 318 so baby 1.9L engine. Still feels nicer than my friends Mazda which is newer and larger engine 😂
And tbh as a first car is perfect
clear ferry
I haven't had a chance to properly road test my XC90 yet, haven't even needed to use kickdown for passby yet
407bhp are nice, with both supercharged and turbo
No lag
umbral cliff
Ah that’s nice. Like 4x the horsepower 😂
Though given how strict they are on speeding here I don’t really need it
Get caught by unmarked cameras going 63 in a 60 zone? $100 fine and 1 demerit
clear ferry
We have a lot of mountains, doing drive by uphill can be challenging
umbral cliff
(Kmh that is)
Ah yeah that I can imagine
But yeah I plan to keep my car for years, she’s only done 82,000kms so plenty left
umbral cliff
I do between 5-10k a year
Don’t usually need to drive outside of my city so no long distances there
Gonna drive to Canberra early December, easy 1400km round trip
clear ferry
I cover most of eastern Norway by car, rest of Norway by plane
Western Sweden by car and rest of Scandinavia by plane
umbral cliff
That all for your job?
clear ferry
Yes
umbral cliff
That’s a lot of driving
clear ferry
Yes, these days it is mostly home office though
Which will be even more of if I move to an EU role
umbral cliff
Was that due to covid or just slowly moving up?
clear ferry
Mostly due to COVID
Norwegian customers do prefer remote work now
Frankly most of Europe does
clear ferry
Yes, not like the weirdos in the US forcing people back into the office
green inlet
Apple Maps keeps rerouting. Bad decision on my part to do a site visit on the day before turkey day. 🤣
umbral cliff
Oh is it thanksgiving tomorrow for the usa
umbral cliff
So that involve the usual holiday traffic I presume 😂
I swear people forget how to drive on holidays
green inlet
I think volume increases also.
clear ferry
Nothankyoutaking
green inlet
Apple Maps can’t make up its mind 🤣
umbral cliff
Though at least from what I’ve seen, tradie (tradesmen) are the worst at driving. The other day one cut onto a busy freeway only to force themselves into the right lane nearly hitting 2 cars
All whilst we were going 20-30kmh
umbral cliff
Apple Maps can’t make up its mind 🤣
The classic traffic is so bad any way you go will be terrible
clear ferry
Put it on the Barbie
Fun fact for you @umbral cliff
I was "married" to an Australian girl in 1997
I was at a children's camp in new Zealand
With kids from around the world
proven spruce
a cult camp?
forest edge
was a sheep herding camp
static schooner
Does this lead to pedophilia?
clear ferry
umbral cliff
This conversation took a turn 😂
green inlet
Visiting Australia is at the top of my bucket list
umbral cliff
I was at a children's camp in new Zealand
How did you end up in New Zealand
clear ferry
I signed up for the kids camp
umbral cliff
Visiting Australia is at the top of my bucket list
Where in australia did you want to visit? Or just everywhere
clear ferry
Lived in NZ for a month with 100+ other kids
green inlet
No idea. Prob anywhere
forest edge
i wanna go to Australia too
green inlet
i wanna go to Australia too
Wanna take me as your date?
clear ferry
No, most have been earlier come think of it, I was 11, so 1995
Just plane hours were 28 I think, plus layovers
forest edge
Wanna take me as your date?
sure, need someone to push onto the poisonous snakes so i can get away
umbral cliff
No idea. Prob anywhere
Well east cost is easy to drive in about a week or two stopping off constantly on the way
West coast you’ll want to fly there because there’s Perth and mines and desert
umbral cliff
sure, need someone to push onto the poisonous snakes so i can get away
Don’t worry. Some of the poisonous snakes will chase after you anyway
forest edge
some of the desert ones do, not sure if they have those there or not
green inlet
I am not sure how we survived without GPS. Really no idea where I am. Just following the phone 🤣
forest edge
my girl can't go anywhere without needing to use google maps. even places she's been a hundred times before. if it's not to work and back and farther than 5 mins away she cannot seem to remember how to get there lol
umbral cliff
Imagine having to memorise the route from a map beforehand
green inlet
Yes. GPS has not made us smarter fer sure
static schooner
And the ‘oh shit, was that a left or a right?’
green inlet
Crack’n me up how hard it trying to get me around traffic and every turn is more parking lots
static schooner
It’s cool that the apps can now navigate within a parking lot
forest edge
and when every vehicle auto drives itself noone will know how to even leave thier own sub divisions manually
green inlet
I really hope that’s a long way away. I wouldnt trust an autonomous car.
forest edge
umbral cliff
I really hope that’s a long way away. I wouldnt trust an autonomous car.
What about the semi autonomous like we currently have?
Personally I’m not a fan of even adaptive cruise control, because it makes people lazy
forest edge
try taking a trip that involves driving for 8+ hours without cruise control
umbral cliff
Oh cruise control itself I like
Because yes it’s useful
It’s the adaptive cruise I don’t like
Because controlling your space between a vehicle in front means you’re concentrating
forest edge
I kind of like it, it just makes sure you don't always have to toggle it on and off when alittle traffic builds up
our forester will even come to a complete stop. you could in essence cruise control through city streets lol
umbral cliff
I guess 8 hour road trips in australia are a lot easier than elsewhere. Get out of the city and you’ve got 7 hours of empty freeway
forest edge
it's not about easy, it's about your leg or foot cramping etc
rather than having to stop a lot to "stretch" you can continue to drive a whole lot further with your feet off the pedals
I like the advancement of tech in cars, adds extra layers of saftey but what I don't like is that tech kind of adds a hard expiration date to vehicles
a person should really only ever own 2-3 cars within a lifetime, excluding accidents etc but now with all the tech and that shit always fails after the first couple of decades and being so expensive that buying a new car ultimatly cheaper than fixing
it's just bs
umbral cliff
it's not about easy, it's about your leg or foot cramping etc
Yeah that’s what I mean by freeway in aus, I can use normal cruise at 110 and there’s no one who will be in front of me
umbral cliff
a person should really only ever own 2-3 cars within a lifetime, excluding accid...
Yeah but if you want to really spend some time you can fix that stuff up (usually not terribly hard) and is fun to do
umbral cliff
<https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/01/turn-by-turntables-how-drivers-got-from-po...
Wow that’s quite cool
young sigil
There was also this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KliWHCzE16c
forest edge
that cassette nav is kind of ingenious
although with no ability to tell if you had turned right or left or missed the turn all together i could see it being annoying from that point forth lol
umbral cliff
The classic “make a u turn when able” except it just keeps navigating you along 😂
strange crag
Yeah that’s what I mean by freeway in aus, I can use normal cruise at 110 and th...
There's plenty of traffic on the open roads between major towns and cities in Australia. Not so much elsewhere though.
For those of you who are coming to Australia there's the 20 out of the worlds deadliest 25 snakes, plus quite a few of the deadliest spiders, plus crocodiles and jellyfish and meat ants. But hey it's a fantastic place to be. 😀 oh and don't forget the mythical bunyip and drop bears. 🤣.
umbral cliff
There's plenty of traffic on the open roads between major towns and cities in Au...
I’m thinking a 8 hour roadtrip between Melbourne and Canberra. Traffic in Melbourne but fuck all on the Hume 😂
Not enough to worry about adaptive cruise
umbral cliff
For those of you who are coming to Australia there's the 20 out of the worlds de...
Don’t forget the blue ring octopus too
Just to top it off
strange crag
The Hume highway has lots of traffic, the worst times are Fridays and Sundays and public holidays when everyone leaves the city. It's like city traffic bumper to bumper too close together at highway speeds!
umbral cliff
I’ve not actually seen traffic on the Hume. Usually have gone on Feb and November usually early in the week
Maybe I’m lucky e 😂
*then
strange crag
There's also the sea urchin, stone fish and sea snake and sharks etc, but the post was getting a bit long.
umbral cliff
Thought the hume was just constantly deserted
umbral cliff
There's also the sea urchin, stone fish and sea snake and sharks etc, but the po...
Rename australia to just deadly land
strange crag
I have seen the Hume as a parking lot when there has been an accident or there was a special event like an air show.
Thousands of cars stopped or barely moving
However I haven't been near the place in years and I guess the covid lockdowns will have stopped people travelling.
As for snow well we do have it on tops of a few mountains and it has snowed once or twice in some towns and we have even had snow on Uluru!
umbral cliff
I have seen the Hume as a parking lot when there has been an accident or there w...
Yeah that’s true. Think I’ve seen it like that on the other side one time. I’ve just been quite lucky then 😂
strange crag
I guess so lol
We are a country of people that likes to travel
So there's always traffic everywhere
umbral cliff
Well unless you’re from WA who seem happy with the border closures 😂
strange crag
I left before winter set in. May not be as cold as some places on this planet but it's too cold for me.
umbral cliff
Look that’s fair. Definitely avoid Canberra during winter then. Easily gets below 0 overnight
jade tartan
any tricks to get solider to stick to a surface pad?
scenic radish
Flux
jade tartan
have non, so fuck this project tonight
forest edge
smart bulbs should have hour meters
that way you know exactly how long they have been on
strange crag
any tricks to get solider to stick to a surface pad?
Flux is generally part of solder. Maybe your iron isnt hot enuff or there is some crap on the pad?
forest edge
not all solder has the rosin core
it's been semi decent here for the past couple of days, like upper 50's and 60's. and tomorrow the high will be like 35 and then on friday it goes back to like 50's and 60's lol
stupid midwest weather
strange crag
Well then get some solder that has the flux in it! You already need 3 hands to solder dont make it a fourth! lol
hushed basalt
If solder isn't wetting a pad easily you can't brute force it
Flux, and the right amount of heat delivered in the right place
forest edge
why the hell did i just add a hover effect to the buttons on my dashboard I never look
clever mortar
Do NOT tag @everyone @midnight adder - that's a quick way of getting banned
Did you think it was smart to ping 81 thousand people?
Well, yes, that's kind of how these things work
Many servers have more than that
Pinging everybody is ... pretty sodding stupid
Thankfully that's blocked here, so you didn't actually ... but you could have
A little thought goes a long way
Next time you join a server, think of it as a thing not to do
dusky plank
i wonder, maybe there is a reason to it 🤔
clever mortar
Nah, it's totally fine to be ignoring class
clear ferry
Personally I’m not a fan of even adaptive cruise control, because it makes peopl...
I love adaptive cruise control, best regard someone who can spend 2-4h in queues per day
umbral cliff
I love adaptive cruise control, best regard someone who can spend 2-4h in queues...
Yeah that’s fair then
I’ll give you that
hushed basalt
Features are great
clear ferry
The new Pilot Assist on the XC90 is great
hushed basalt
Give me all the non shit features
clear ferry
It can drive in queues for me
umbral cliff
I just know a few who use it everywhere because lazy driving
hushed basalt
Why is it lazy though
umbral cliff
Like lazy because they don’t want to have to concentrate
So they just use adaptive cruise and not concentrate on the road
hushed basalt
I think it offloads non value adding activity to a machine
And allows you to save mental fatigue
clear ferry
Well, adaptive cruise does a lot more than that, if someone suddenly breaks (even if you aren't activly using it) your car will break, and if a car comes towards you in the same lane it will also break, regardless of if you are using ACC or not
hushed basalt
It's like when helicopters first came out
umbral cliff
Yeah I agree with emergency break. You can have that without adaptive cruise though
hushed basalt
They used to require intense manual correction just to hover in place, let alone cruise
clear ferry
Makes no sense to have radar without having ACC
hushed basalt
Pilots got extremely tired very quickly
I'd rather have billions people using ACC than not
clear ferry
What really grinds my gears is that people with modern cars have noe idea HOW TO FUCKING USE THE PARKING LIGHTS
Especially in winter Norway
umbral cliff
In australia we have 0 use for parking lights so most here (including myself) really have no clue when to use them 😂
clear ferry
In Northern norway we have 2 months without sunlight
In the south the sun is just low
umbral cliff
What I love here though is people drive with fog lights on 24/7 then as soon as it’s foggy they turn them off
clear ferry
Driving with fog lights is legal in norway, if it is at daytime, and you turn your regular headlights off
if you drive with both on or with fog lights in the evening it's fines
umbral cliff
Here fog lights can’t be on without headlights on
umbral cliff
In Northern norway we have 2 months without sunlight
Why wouldn’t you just run normal headlights on during that period anyway
forest edge
your fog lights are unproperly aimed then
clever mortar
Even when correctly aimed they're a nightmare in the rain
clear ferry
clever mortar
That's a function of how they're designed to work ... in fog
forest edge
never had issues but then I drive a truck
clear ferry
Remember about 15 years ago I was doing a commute from Tromsø to Narvik, and the snow was so heavy the only way I actually saw the road was driving with parking lights on, that was... fun
forest edge
only time i ever had issues was driving through kansas in the middle of the night on a country road during a really bad hail storm
the hail was like the size of marbles and that made seeing anything impossible lol
clever mortar
I've been out in fog that was heavy enough that you couldn't see the road directly in front of the car, no matter what you did with lights. That was pretty damn scary
I've also been out in rain heavy enough that you could see more than a couple of meters in front of the car. That's damn scary when you were doing 60 MPH along twisty country roads and that starts...
forest edge
yellow vs white fog lights make a difference too so I hear. never had a vehicle with actual yellow fog lights to test that out tho
clear ferry
My previous neighbour drove his Peugeot with both yellow fog and headlights
forest edge
yea some vehicles have them yellow
aftermarket is common to be yellow too
especially for 4x4'ers
forest edge
yea i don't know why they are so random. maybe they are worse for oncoming traffic or something
umbral cliff
never had issues but then I drive a truck
By truck you mean a Ute? Like car with trailer bed?
umbral cliff
Remember about 15 years ago I was doing a commute from Tromsø to Narvik, and the...
Could you not use low beam headlights in that situation?
low harness
If I can't see more than five meters or so I usually stop by the roadside and wait it out. Don't want to get hit from behind.
umbral cliff
el camino? no
You mean this? (Had to google it)
forest edge
thats what I thought you meant lol
umbral cliff
If I can't see more than five meters or so I usually stop by the roadside and wa...
Yeah no matter how safe you are, the other drivers cannot be guaranteed
low harness
Exactly. Always assume everyone else on the road is a complete idiot and you'll be safer.
umbral cliff
thats what I thought you meant lol
Oh I meant is your car something like this?
low harness
... and not far off...
umbral cliff
Exactly. Always assume everyone else on the road is a complete idiot and you'll ...
Even then it’s still easy for idiots to cause damage even if you try your best
forest edge
Oh I meant is your car something like this?
yes, that is a truck, not a car
umbral cliff
On a highway was going 80kmh and a taxi decides he’s going to merge into the right hand lane where I am. Nearly pushed me off the road
strange crag
Here fog lights can’t be on without headlights on
are you sure about that?
umbral cliff
yes, that is a truck, not a car
To me that’s a ute 😂
umbral cliff
are you sure about that?
Pretty sure it’s part of the ADRs
forest edge
I guess "truck" over there is more like semi lol https://www.topmarkfunding.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/what-is-a-semi-truck-1024x576-1024x585.jpg
strange crag
if you drive with both on or with fog lights in the evening it's fines
but fog happens at all times - so should be allowed.
umbral cliff
I guess "truck" over there is more like semi lol https://www.topmarkfunding.com/...
Yep 😂
forest edge
we call cars, cars, trucks trucks and semi's semi's or tractor trailers lol
clear ferry
I can count the incidents of fog the last 10 years on two hands probably
umbral cliff
we call cars, cars, trucks trucks and semi's semi's or tractor trailers lol
Whilst we call anything larger than a van a truck. And if it has multiple trailers then it’s a road train
low harness
So a "semitruck" is significantly larger than a truck?
forest edge
So a "semitruck" is significantly larger than a truck?
to american's yes
not sure what ute is? you mean utv?
umbral cliff
Ute is what you call a truck
low harness
Ah, English.
strange crag
yellow vs white fog lights make a difference too so I hear. never had a vehicle ...
Never seen white fog lights - they are yellow because of less reflected glare from the fog. Being white would defeat the purpose!
clear ferry
99.9999% of fog lights are white
umbral cliff
Never seen white fog lights - they are yellow because of less reflected glare f...
Our bmw has white fog lights (well halogen bulbs but clear housing and cover)
forest edge
apparently not where he lives
@umbral cliffthis covers what we call what lol https://www.caranddriver.com/shopping-advice/g26100588/car-types/
umbral cliff
<@!137144563109330944>this covers what we call what lol https://www.caranddriver...
Everything except this is the same. This is called a Ute for us
strange crag
we call cars, cars, trucks trucks and semi's semi's or tractor trailers lol
but a ute is built on a car chasis. Its just like having a convertible or sedan or coupe or a hearse!
forest edge
ute is a weird name to my ears lol
strange crag
stands for utility vehicle
strange crag
99.9999% of fog lights are white
Not here in Aus!
umbral cliff
Ute is just such an Aussie word 😂
umbral cliff
Not here in Aus!
Most European cars in aus end up with clear fogs though
strange crag
yeah we have SUV and 4x4 as well
umbral cliff
/ white fogs
clear ferry
Australia doesn't count, you guys have the strangest rules in the world
strange crag
lol
umbral cliff
Australia doesn't count, you guys have the strangest rules in the world
Like the fact we can’t run our own Ethernet cable if it goes through the walls? 😂
clear ferry
Exactly
forest edge
wtf lol
umbral cliff
Dates back to the days of copper phone lines. Where if you tried to do in home wiring you could cause damage
Nowadays it’s kinda useless
Also just took a photo of my parents bmw’s fog lights (had to go drive it anyway). See white/ clear!
strange crag
well you can run your own cables, but if it causes a problem with the house burning down then insurance isnt going to cover it, but insureance always seeks to avoid paying anyway even if its not your fault
umbral cliff
well you can run your own cables, but if it causes a problem with the house burn...
Also depends on the mood of acma if they ever get teeth and enforce that stuff
forest edge
fog lights on cars seems silly to me
clear ferry
My insurance just got bumped from $300k to unlimited because I got accepted to the Norwegian Engineering Association, plus I got a lot of other nice perks
that was nice
forest edge
fog light beams are blanket span. it's no wonder being that close to the ground people have issues
strange crag
phone lines only had a max of 100v A/C on them when ringing. Normally at customer premises it was like 6v DC. If you were close to the exchange you might get some back emf from relays at a couple thousand volts, but stuff all current. I used to work in a crossbar exchange, got zapped a few times - still alive lol
clear ferry
It's not that high tbh
forest edge
ours is like half that, just enough for people to tap into to charge thier phones during an outage lol
strange crag
for experts on fog - anyone here from england? Apparently they have pea soup fogs
forest edge
ask tinkerer, he stated he had to "swim" through some thick shit a few times lol
strange crag
have measured the ring current both at the ringer and further out. Definitely 100 VAC
clear ferry
I thought ISDN maxed out at 80v or so
strange crag
its not isdn
forest edge
he's talking old classic telephone
aussies need the power in the pinch to do some on the site make shift welding lol
strange crag
correct - pre electronic exchange, altho they still use some of that stuff too
clear ferry
norwegian guidelines say -48v default voltage, 90v when ringing here
umbral cliff
@strange crag what voltage would nbn fttn be?
strange crag
yeah 50v in the exchange for internal workings. love the size of the busbars!
Fibre shouldnt have any voltage - it just carries light.
umbral cliff
Fibre shouldnt have any voltage - it just carries light.
The copper for fttn though
Would that still operate at 50v?
clear ferry
lol copper
strange crag
probably would be 50v, but I dont know for sure
umbral cliff
lol copper
Modern internet 😛
clear ferry
Australia, little murica
clear ferry
FTTH or bust
umbral cliff
FTTH or bust
Ftth = fttp
umbral cliff
For australia it means fibre to the home or apartment. There’s no copper in sight for that
strange crag
yeah australia was going to get fibre to the premises, but then the politicians got involved and it got commuted to fibre to the node (end of the street) and copper to the house. Now they want to go the rest of the way and are finding out that for the last short distance its going to be just has expensive as the original full rollout. What idiots!
clear ferry
I would call premise a shared building, like an office building or apartment building
while a house is a single family location
strange crag
well we are talking about to the house in this case calmelb was correct
strange crag
a business can have many lines in
umbral cliff
yeah australia was going to get fibre to the premises, but then the politicians ...
All to be different from labor and also to protect Foxtel. Such a mess
clever mortar
UK uses the term FTTP for "to the dwelling unit" - house/flat/whatever
strange crag
yes for apartments/flats would only be one cable
umbral cliff
apartment != house
Whilst apartments here who are under FTTP have individual fibre into the place
clear ferry
That would be different then, the FTTP stuff here is one fiber to the complex, then distributed via patch panels \ switches to apartments afaik
clear ferry
It only happens in large cities where it isn't feasible to do a full new install, FTTH has been the norm since 2004\5
umbral cliff
Yeah unsure if it’s multiple fibre to each apartment or one to the block then fibre split out to each apartment but regardless it’s still fibre to each apartment
umbral cliff
It only happens in large cities where it isn't feasible to do a full new install...
Whilst we planned to put fibre to every home retrofitted since 2012 or so then it changed to the mixed mess
At least my parents place has HFC so it’s probably the best non FTTP place
(Since we can get gigabit down if we wanted)
strange crag
hahaha
clear ferry
Also max 25GB transfer per month!
strange crag
only 25GB? that sux
umbral cliff
Yeah at least all plans here can do unlimited data 😂
Even if you end up with 12/2 on a pensioner plan
strange crag
even if they slow it down after a certain amounmt!
clear ferry
Limited data, lol what a dystopian pipedream
umbral cliff
Think even telstra got rid of data caps for fixed line in 2014 or so
And they’re usually the ones to rip you off
strange crag
they still ripyou off - lowest data caps in the country
umbral cliff
they still ripyou off - lowest data caps in the country
For mobile data? Yeah but if you need the coverage you’re stuck with them
strange crag
for their unlimited plans you still get restricted at about 40Gig
umbral cliff
for their unlimited plans you still get restricted at about 40Gig
Since when?
I’ve put 1TB over one of those and no issues
It’s proper unlimited for fixed line
strange crag
its called their fair use policy
umbral cliff
Never had any issues from it before
strange crag
maybe not, but the clause is still there
umbral cliff
Yeah it’s probably one of the few ones that are never enforced though
strange crag
it was early on -= not sure now though since others now have unlimited
umbral cliff
Just looked at their policy, just says high usage of domestic service with no data cap will not be enforced under their fair use
forest edge
man my next house will have a digital temp shower control
strange crag
Just looked at their policy, just says high usage of domestic service with no da...
fair enuff then. Things have finally changed!
umbral cliff
fair enuff then. Things have finally changed!
Yeah they would’ve been forced to. Given everyone else is unlimited
The TOS just seem to be the usual no business on domestic connection
strange crag
Can run a business, but dont expect to get Telstra stuff done quickly! Hell I was running a business service with them and moved premises and they gave me a domestic service with port 25 blocked and I was running a mail server. I moved a couple of streets so the data port was available, but they wouldnt move it from the old location to the new one.
strange crag
hehehe
clear ferry
strange crag
dont knock it till you try it!
umbral cliff
I’m happy to pay for someone to host my email
clear ferry
The only customers I still have with local mail servers are military, everyone else has common sense
strange crag
hehehe yeah military inteligence is an oxymoron lol
forest edge
most companies have their own
clear ferry
Sounds like murica
forest edge
hell the shitty retail store i worked at eons ago had it's own lol
eternal mail servers for "security"
I remember when I worked at Gateway and accidently sent something to a friend of mine then had my manager tell me to not do that the next day was both funny and scary
bastards reading our work given mail.
clear ferry
That definitively sounds like murica
forest edge
surprised your not forced to use an eternal service
clear ferry
I have no idea what that is
clear ferry
Yeah, no, even the norwegian goverment moved to cloud mail now that they didn't manage to keep their servers patched for 0day vulnerabilities
forest edge
I mean I guess for such a small country that isn't a big deal but holy hell the security issues with that lol
clear ferry
Cloud mail servers > local mail servers
forest edge
I mean.. no..
clear ferry
I mean yes
clever mortar
Eh, depends on where you move it to. If you're using Uncle Tom's cloud hosting sure you have an issue. If you're moving to one of the big players... they're probably better at security than your local IT idiots
forest edge
maybe if it was hosted out of your grandma's basement...
clear ferry
MS patches their mailservers continiously
they even have the patches before they are publicly released
And if you send sensitive \ confidential information over mail, then you are the problem, not the mailsystem
forest edge
Eh, depends on where you move it to. If you're using _Uncle Tom's cloud hosting_...
it's really no diffrent than how we feel about local vs cloud control on our iot stuff lol
umbral cliff
MS patches their mailservers continiously
Don’t forget MS also has decent setups in place for government servers too which is a bonus
clever mortar
All comes down to the quality and experience of the various teams, but I know I'm more comfortable letting big player host my email than DIY
clear ferry
Exactly, the servers can be VPNed into the corp network so only outgoing mail actually traverses the internet @umbral cliff
umbral cliff
Exactly, the servers can be VPNed into the corp network so only outgoing mail ac...
The uni I was at is technically a government entity so we have O365 but with the strict rules (local servers, etc) due to it being under gov data rules
forest edge
really only small companies and citizens use cloud here. sure there are some exceptions, some bigger companies may use something like MS or even some gov branches in some states or something but for the most part everyone hosts thier own and prefer it that way
clear ferry
I would too in the US where my data isn't really protected in any way from anyone 
forest edge
outbound is all in the same basket
strange crag
Early on MS was running unix servers as their interface to the internet. When that fact was discovered MS turned off the service that showed that. To this day they may still be running unix servers or they may have changed them to linux boxes lol
forest edge
it's the internal aspect they like, the features and control
I don't think MS ever had issues with linux
mostly the other way around lol
strange crag
How does HA invoke its messaging to alert the user?
jovial marten
is there a way to get a count of the number of times an entity value has been below a threshold for a specific date period?
im trying to get a total number of times my grid voltage has been 'out of spec' this month
velvet horizonBOT
strange crag
MS wanted linux removed from existance as it was competing with MS and was free. They still dont like it - just look at TPM2.0 - designed to stop linux being installed on the computer. It will only be a temporary stopgap, but still....
On another note they have an Ubuntu app on win10 and may actually be using some linux code in the development of windows.
umbral cliff
MS wanted linux removed from existance as it was competing with MS and was free....
MS has pushed Linux a lot more than they used to. Like the usage of WSL in windows. So you can run a full Linux shell or gui programs in windows natively. Definitely not the sign of a company that still hates it
I doubt TPM will be used to lock desktops down to prevent a new os at the very least, even laptops would be unlikely
forest edge
@strange cragmaybe years ago that was the case but anymore just no
linux has it's uses, both side pretty much established thier place in the world
strange crag
you apparently NEED tpm2.0 to install win11
forest edge
which hurts ms more than hurts linux lol
umbral cliff
you apparently NEED tpm2.0 to install win11
You do. It doesn’t prevent the usage of dual booting Linux though
clear ferry
MS wanted linux removed from existance as it was competing with MS and was free....
but... TPM2.0 works fine with Linux \ Vmware and more 
strange crag
havent tried it yet
umbral cliff
I dual boot manjaro and windows 11 with no issues
clear ferry
Also, all computers the last 8 years have had TPM2.0 that I have owned, so that isn't really a problem
It's not a new hardware feature, and it doesn't really make sense to run Win11 on a 10yo laptop
umbral cliff
Also, all computers the last 8 years have had TPM2.0 that I have owned, so that ...
Or the cpu has access for virtual TPM too
forest edge
i like how you say, "you" owned so it isn't an issue lol
clear ferry
I have no other reference points since I don't work with consumer bullshit 😄
forest edge
noone cares about your HP garbage atx!
strange crag
do you have the release version of win11 or the other one? Calmelb?
umbral cliff
do you have the release version of win11 or the other one? Calmelb?
Release
clear ferry
I ran beta for a month before win11 was released
strange crag
OK I heard that the other one would work without tpm2.0 but the release version wouldnt
umbral cliff
I wiped and installed win 11 fresh as my win 10 install was getting a little bad
forest edge
so is there more linux in win11 like they kept hinting at?
umbral cliff
OK I heard that the other one would work without tpm2.0 but the release version ...
I have TPM2.0, I still can run linux even with TPM2.0
There’s no issues about it existing, as atx pointed out linux has supported it for years
strange crag
is tpm enabled?
umbral cliff
Has to be
strange crag
in bios
umbral cliff
So yes it’s enabled
strange crag
sorry you were too quick to respond before I got the second line in lol
umbral cliff
so is there more linux in win11 like they kept hinting at?
Well powershell and cmd recognise all Linux commands for file browsing as well as windows ones (eg ls vs dir, rm vs del) so that’s one
umbral cliff
sorry you were too quick to respond before I got the second line in lol
But yeah tpm enabled, windows 11 install with bitlocker enabled, second drive running manjaro Linux perfectly fine on it
strange crag
well thats an improvement 😉
clear ferry
I love that powershell now recognizes grep
umbral cliff
They do actually like Linux once balmer left
clear ferry
Select-String 
umbral cliff
Since even azure (their cloud suite) offers Linux as VM OS
Or for servers, etc
So it’s no longer the closed book they once were
forest edge
I wonder if I should upgrade to 11
clear ferry
11 is great tbh
forest edge
I see the option in the update window
umbral cliff
If you have backups then go ahead
I’ve only known one person to have issues
And even then it was a broken program install that barely worked on 10, 11 y sealed the deal
*just
forest edge
not sure about that desktop look tho
umbral cliff
not sure about that desktop look tho
It’s the same, only the start menu really
strange crag
does win11 recognise any other filesystems than ntfs or fat?
umbral cliff
And even then you can move it to the left
umbral cliff
does win11 recognise any other filesystems than ntfs or fat?
Don’t think so without any third party tool
strange crag
did it try to take the whole disk or ignore the other o/s on your hdd?
for dual booting I always had to install windows first and then linux so that I would be able to choose which o/s I wanted. If I did it the other way around linux couldnt be accessed
forest edge
would be a nightmare if ms had the ability to utilize like ext lol
clear ferry
I haven't dualbooted since 2010, makes no sense with modern virtualization tech
strange crag
would be a nightmare if ms had the ability to utilize like ext lol
Why? Linux has that ability - even apple has that ability
clear ferry
Because macOS is bsd yes
forest edge
there would certainly be some kind of screw up between the two so taking a drive from one to the other would cause issues
strange crag
I haven't dualbooted since 2010, makes no sense with modern virtualization tech
well dual booting gets around the issue of sound and other things not working very well in a VM environment. Not sure if that has been fixed. Also which way would you do it Windows host with other VM's or linux host with other vm's including windows?
clear ferry
had to check, but bsd has supported ext in kernel since 1997
there is no "issue with sound" in a virtualized enviroment, heck even 3d acceleration works fine
strange crag
there would certainly be some kind of screw up between the two so taking a drive...
well how come third parties can do it, but not MS?
clear ferry
these aren't third parties, they are open source communities
that have supported it for decades
forest edge
pretty sure apple wasn't a smooth thing in the begining if i remember right
clear ferry
there is no sense for ms to support ext natively
dusky plank
that CURL in powersehll though 🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤮🤮🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮
for realz
clear ferry
agreed
dusky plank
how can you fuck it up that bad?
strange crag
there is no "issue with sound" in a virtualized enviroment, heck even 3d acceler...
last time I tried ( a few years back tho) the sound was all choppy and USB passthru wasnt great. 3d accel was there, but wouldnt work.
forest edge
and thats why many don't want ms to support ext lol
clear ferry
a few years ago is decades in advances
dusky plank
last time I tried ( a few years back tho) the sound was all choppy and USB passt...
sounds like hyper-v amirite?
clear ferry
Hyper-V 🤢
Reminds me, having a meeting about a customer today with a shitty hyper-v environment
strange crag
not hyper-v! Dont use windows for servers if I can avoid it. Was a linux proxmox and vmware servers. Both failed that test.
forest edge
dunno how people can swap between OS's all the time. I get "part of the job" parts but not for personal reasons
strange crag
a few years ago is decades in advances
yeah too true!
clear ferry
proxmox 🤢
I have run full 3d acceleration with CAD developers on vmware for over 10 years
it isn't an issue
dusky plank
i have accellerated graphics, nice audio and also passthrough without trouble in kvm
on a single nuc I can run linux, osx and windows parallell all with their own gpu and sound output
forest edge
I have my window machines then I have my linux machines.. just as God intended
strange crag
proxmox was great even back then, apparently its even better now!
clear ferry
@forest edge what do you mean, I only work on roughly 25 different OS'
forest edge
thats cause your a freak who eats shitty cheese
clear ferry
strange crag
i have accellerated graphics, nice audio and also passthrough without trouble in...
well all I can say is it must have improved quite a bit in the intervening time
dusky plank
clear ferry
I ran a windows vm on linux 6 years ago with audio + 3d acceleration without issues
it isn't that recent
dusky plank
^^
wasn't even recent in 2012 with bootcam afaik (running the bootcam partition in vmware player on osx)
forest edge
the issue was trying to run wine on linux through vm lol
forest edge
it was a linux junkies only hope for gaming
strange crag
until some good games came out on linux
forest edge
wow did not work fine the whole time lol
strange crag
and steam joined the party
forest edge
hell wow didn't always work all that great even when the instance wasn't in a vm let alone through a vm lol
so do not miss that $15/m addiction
clear ferry
opnsense > pfsense
hushed basalt
Norwegians obviously have low standards
clear ferry
Can't fix layer8 issues, sorry
hushed basalt
Tomato was a UX dream 💖
clear ferry
🤢
clear ferry
Pass, I'll rather do vyos then
hushed basalt
What's wrong with tomato
clear ferry
isn't it still MIPS \ ARM only ?
clear ferry
Eh, I'm out of storage on my ESXi-lab
thank Dog I have 8 1.92TB SSDs laying around
gotta push them in
clear ferry
Yeah, I love 80s analogue synths
so perturbator is perfect
How can you not have spotify, only CD rips in ogg with local storage for you ? 😄
dusky plank
no online audio service features all what I'm looking for in one place
its all scattered
clear ferry
I do agree on this
dusky plank
and when they feature a majority of artists - they still dont have mixes
clear ferry
Spotify is the best for compatibility though, native spotify player in my car f.example
prime latch
Lol Spotify
dusky plank
what
clear ferry
what
prime latch
Spotify audio quality is just horrendous
clear ferry
doesn't matter for most folks as they listen on shitty hardware anyway 😄
prime latch
It's still worse than CD
clear ferry
helps to put it to extreme quality though, although the hifi one will be better
clear ferry
Spotify HiFi will introduce that
but doesn't help much when most modern music is mixed in down in shitty quality
prime latch
Yeah not to Australia we haven't even got Amazon music premium the Hi-Fi good sounding one
Only real choice is tidal
clear ferry
Tidal 🤢
dusky plank
We dont have Kangaroos in Austria 🦘
clear ferry
prime latch
Are you saying it's bad the web player is perfectly fine and the app is decent
The app got everything I would want
And they actually pay ok royalties to artist
dusky plank
sans comic sans
prime latch
No Spotify garbage
clear ferry
Eh, Tidal is the Apple of music streaming, shiny and for fanbois
This you @dusky plank ?
prime latch
Compared to Spotify that pays garbage
clear ferry
The price they get is fair for the shitty music they put out 
prime latch
The price they get is fair for the shitty music they put out <:HaHaa:49059411726...
Wtf
dusky plank
because apple is stupid and I get free months for every hackintosh i make
prime latch
Eh, Tidal is the Apple of music streaming, shiny and for fanbois <:kek:770338921...
I'm really the complete opposite of an Apple fanboy
The only product they make that actually makes sense in my opinion is the iPad because Android tablets are garbage
clear ferry
🤢
prime latch
Android tablets really need to pick up the game and developers actually need to notice there a thing
clear ferry
Atleast my android tablet can install updates without me uninstalling every application I ever installed on it to make room for the upgrade
(yes I have an ipad too)
clear ferry
that is because you overspent and bought the one that comes with usable storagespace
dusky plank
what is it with you down under people flocking into this server?
clear ferry
prime latch
that is because you overspent and bought the one that comes with usable storages...
No iPads are pretty reasonably priced compared to the over price Samsung tablets
clear ferry
prime latch
Have you seen the price of the new Samsung tablets with the flagship processor
We brought a couple for work
clear ferry
I'm boycotting Samsung, so no
prime latch
So what new tablet do you buy
clear ferry
Lenovo tablets are insanely cheap, I have three
prime latch
Samsung the only premium manufacturer left really
prime latch
Lenovo tablets are insanely cheap, I have three
What about the premium market
dusky plank
a man of culture
/https://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/content/dam/thepeterboroughexaminer/news/council/2021/06/07/peterborough-eyed-as-test-market-for-electric-microcars/stronachfinal.jpg){kind=link}
dusky plank
lol, my nexus 7 from 2012 runs recent ubuntu
prime latch
It just seems like an android tablet thing to have bad software support
clear ferry
Good thing I have the P11 tablet then
prime latch
So it's going to get updates for two years
clear ferry
Also, unlike apple, you don't get banned from installing older software on older tablets
clear ferry
Says the guy with a 17yo switch that was EOL'd 5 years ago 😄
prime latch
It's not 17 years old it has a manufacturing date on
It's 2007 so it's 13
Nearly 14 it was manufactured in December
clear ferry
The hardware inside it is still 17yo, whenever it was assembled doesn't matter
prime latch
No the hardware inside was manufactured around that date
clear ferry
prime latch
So you think for the switches they made in 2016 they were using hardware from 2004 they had lying around
dusky plank
🍿
clear ferry
Probably yes, in refurbished or reproduced PCBs
Best regards, someone who actually works in enterprise hardware
prime latch
So they instantly stop making pcb's when it was first released
clear ferry
I didn't say that
prime latch
They must have some crazy time travelling abilities to know how many to make
It can't be 2004 hardware if it wasn't manufactured in 2004
clear ferry
Sure it can
prime latch
No it would be 2015 hardware that's why it's got that manufacturing date on
clear ferry
They made 50k boards, those were used in the first 3 years, hardware is still produced in 2004 even though it was assembled in 2007
etc
then they made 50k more
and 100k more
etc
it's very likely the first three or four years were all produced at the same time
prime latch
I would be quite surprised if December 2007 was using boards that were made in 2004
Have a couple mates that worked in Cisco at the time and they were selling pretty well
clear ferry
It isn't very unusual
prime latch
2006 2005 years but not 2007
I've owned the switch since day 1 brought it in early 2008 I've got a open up again and see if I can see some more date markings
clear ferry
You will probably find date markings on the PSU, the system board and any ASIC daughter boards yes
prime latch
I've only had to replace the power supplied once quite surprising that model had quite a bit of issues
And that was quite new so it was under warranty
It's just poe switch for my IP cameras most of them have been moved on to a new switch now but in a different location
Most of my stuff these days is on my 48 Port Linksys switch
clear ferry
Linksys 🤢
prime latch
Yes it's just Cisco
clear ferry
it isn't
prime latch
They literally had a partnership it's on cisco's website
clear ferry
sure, they did
linksys didn't run catos or ios though
nor nxos or aci for that matter
prime latch
They did have a partnership
prime latch
that is like saying a Seat is a Bugatti
Where does it say that
clear ferry
prime latch
It literally says Cisco on it
clear ferry
Sure, it still isn't a Cisco
prime latch
Still gotta run the sfp when I have time and the media converters
prime latch
Sure, it still isn't a Cisco
Then why does it use Cisco webview
dusky plank
prime latch
Wow a low quality JPEG
dusky plank
you are low quality
prime latch
?
dusky plank
what
prime latch
I still don't know why there traffic out at 11:30 while the boys are on site
It's not even a Friday night
It's normally nowhere near this busy if you check the its logs
hushed basalt
Qld?
prime latch
Yes
hushed basalt
prime latch
It's kind of crazy how quiet we are right now during the day but so busy at night this was the yard during the day
Still gotta get around to get my 6 axle truck licence only have a 4 Axel right now
dusky plank
clear ferry
Reminds me, need to fix my neighbours amp
and her yamaha dx7ii
thank goodness I'm going on vacation in 7 days
prime latch
wow my isp was so quick to fix my issue I love them so much small Australian company love the competition on the Australian network and they give you so much data on their website to help you troubleshoot just called them up and got to a real person instantaneously based in Tasmania never even got moved around
dusky plank
punctuation saves lifes
dusky plank
we are eating, grandpa!
prime latch
lol loss, and latency
No more a NBN issue had it before on my old ISP
A lot of the times it caused by a router configuration error on their side
clear ferry
I guess only I have that reference point, since I installed some storage on the south pole via vpn 🤔
prime latch
punctuation saves lifes
Lol punctuation
dusky plank
lol australian internet
clear ferry
@hushed basalt agrees on that one @dusky plank
prime latch
What I'm quite happy with my gigabit fttp
And my ISP is amazing and overall the ISP choice is really good there are hundreds to choose from so there's a lot of competition
dusky plank
lol i have fiber to my raspberry
prime latch
Yeah you can run fibre directly into your router and use a sfp switch if you really want to
clear ferry
@hushed basalt have you been lying, you said internet in australia was rubbish
please elaborate
prime latch
<@!448110501696897025> have you been lying, you said internet in australia was r...
For a lot of people home internet is quite rubbish but in my area it's all fttc or fttp
dusky plank
prime latch
I guess problem about Australia's internet is the high amount of kilometres per household
Or clients per 1km of fibre optic is real low
prime latch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haImi4cWau0
That more looks like fttb
dusky plank
laughs in ftth
clear ferry
laughs in FTTH since 2004
prime latch
I have fibre to the home it's decent
umbral cliff
Only real choice is tidal
Or apple music, since australia gets the high quality music too
umbral cliff
For a lot of people home internet is quite rubbish but in my area it's all fttc ...
Most of australia ends up with FTTN with runs of over 500m-1km so slow
prime latch
Do they even do mastered songs
dusky plank
apple fanboy never left the chat
clear ferry
Watch it @umbral cliff this one is spicy spectrum
prime latch
Most of australia ends up with FTTN with runs of over 500m-1km so slow
Most of the people I know are on hfc our fttc
But hfc is pretty garbage
umbral cliff
Most of the people I know are on hfc our fttc
Brisbane?
prime latch
Brisbane?
No quite regional Redlands
https://launtel.net.au/2021/01/24/nbns-hfc-is-a-complete-dogs-breakfast/ hfc probably turned into the worst technology
umbral cliff
I’m on HFC and have none of those issues listed
prime latch
You must be on a very new connection it's very common to have massive drop out and connection issues
Or not have many people on your distribution Point
umbral cliff
Nope, my area was one of the first to have the foxtel rollout (metro melbourne)
So late 90s again
prime latch
Yeah probably not many people on the network
clear ferry
Network drops ? Haven't seen those since the late 90s