the-water-cooler

[fallow karma]

I made my first YT clip. Sorry for english subtitles are only about 3 minutes, but i'm tired, so will finish it tomorrow . https://youtu.be/VPM6uPtnle8

[scenic radish]

Well, and because actual warm/cool white LEDs are way better than blending R G and B

RGB-CCT or bust

[subtle pasture]

Gotta love getting a callback from Microsoft tech support, and the call quality being so poor that you literally can't hear a single full word the support agent is trying to say to you...

She hung up on me after I repeated that I couldn't hear her 5 or 6 times. Guess I wait for another call? 🤷‍♀️

[wet pilot]

lol not a good look when the MS Support Scammers sound better than actual MS support

[subtle pasture]

Right?

And this is for an actual billing-related support ticket, open with the Azure division...

You'd think they'd want to fix a billing issue ASAP

We're now on day 2

[scenic radish]

Money is just a social construct

maaaaaaaaaaan

[last dirge]

anybody run NUT?

[young sigil]

Not yet. Going to give it a go tonight.

[last dirge]

I just got a Blue and it's going to live nowhere near the UPS

so gotta get the data somehow

[cunning onyx]

@last dirge I've got NUT running, though the container restarts constantly.

[last dirge]

what OS?

[cunning onyx]

the hassio OS running in a VM

ubuntu on the physical server connected to the UPS

required I add "pollinterval = 1" to the /etc/nut/ups.conf config file to prevent the server on that side from causing an issue that would render the UPS disconnected from HA

[subtle pasture]

I run NUT on one UPS, but the rest are all using actual APC management cards

I just have a Pi dangling off the back, dedicated to NUT and environmental monitoring.

[last dirge]

mine's just a SOHO UPS, not enterprise shit 🙂

[cunning onyx]

"APC management cards" AKA real hardware.

[subtle pasture]

Yeah, they're all the big rackmount or breadbox style 1500 vA units (pure sign wave) with Network Management Card II's installed

[last dirge]

I've got two BackUPS 1500 pure sine

[cunning onyx]

disclaimer, the device I'm connecting NUT to is a garbage cyberpower, like the cheapest thing I could find, so maybe not NUT's fault I've had a few issues.

[subtle pasture]

If I find another Network Management Card for a decent price, I'll populate the last one that's missing one 🤷‍♀️

[cunning onyx]

I feel stupid for not poaching a bunch of the APC power supply strips from work when we closed our office and threw out a ton of stuff.

[subtle pasture]

That's how I got mine. Units with expired warranties and dead batteries, but nothing actually wrong with them

Took 'em home, installed new batteries, good as new

[cunning onyx]

We threw out SO MUCH equipment, it was nauseating.

And to be fair, I had the green light to take what I wanted, and I did take several carloads of valuable stuff, so like, can't have it all I guess.

Still, so much good stuff lost..

[left solstice]

It's all fun and games until the UPS unit dies, causing you loss of work and damaging your PSU at the same time :/

[last dirge]

I just searched those

they cost 4x what my UPS did

[subtle pasture]

$40?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/363599971563?hash=item54a83f44eb:g:h5EAAOSwMkxhQ6sf

They don't cost that much used. I might grab that one...

[last dirge]

..from Schneider

what did you say you were using for the breadbox UPSs?

https://www.microcenter.com/product/497071/apc-1500va-back-up-ups-w-coaxial-and-data-line-protection,-10-outlets that's mine

[subtle pasture]

Mine are more like this

[last dirge]

ah

lorge

[subtle pasture]

They work great, lol

I've got one dedicated to my 3D printer. It'll keep it actively printing for over an hour with the power out

One's in the server rack, and another is next to the server rack, powering the network/IoT wall

Coax usually doesn't go down when there's a power outage, so we generally have internet + wifi for between 6 and 8 hours with the power out.

[jade tartan]

i really need a good ups

for not crazy money

i'd be open to building one but the switching componenets i have no idea about

[clear ferry]

My cyberpower ups' were so cheap it doesn't make sense to build them

For home use

[last dirge]

you can get a PowerWall for like 10 grand

[clear ferry]

Powerwall 🤢

[last dirge]

pretty brilliant way to deal with cells that won't meet snuff for a vehicle pack

[clear ferry]

Or just do like Norway, that subsidies EVs, so much that repairing them makes no sense so we just scrap the cars, really really smart

😫

[scenic radish]

[clear ferry]

🦴🇷

[glacial knot]

The fact that you can talk about the usual situation of power outages is weird

[clear ferry]

That's murica for you

[glacial knot]

I should probably still get a PSU for my data grave. Just for good measure

[fallow karma]

Once ago I saw a guy, who has similar problem with often power down, so he found a solution: very, very rusty old Mercedes w123 diesel, driveshaft attached to huge power generator instead of rear end. 😆

[forest edge]

it's only certain areas of certain states that experience them frequently. California just happens to be always on fire so yea.. electrical lines burn

[glacial knot]

ours are either high enough up on steel, or low enough below ground to not really care about some surface fires /shrug

[fallow karma]

That's because you have 110V on wooden sticks 😆

[forest edge]

it being 110v has nothing to do with it lol

and it's actually 240v on those poles

[fallow karma]

Ok,ok. I was only joking

[forest edge]

our country has the oldest grid on the planet, although some upgrading has taken place we can't just suddenly bury lines or move them to more convenient areas.

[mighty ledge]

remember what it was called? Sounds interesting

[dusky plank]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UaP5xRWaPhA

[jovial marten]

does anyone in here have Sonoff L2 LED strips?

I'm just looking at the specs page, and it says "802.11b" for the wifi.. whereas the older L1 LED strip says "802.11b/g/n"

[dusky plank]

I'd categorize this as typo

[jovial marten]

looking at the scrollback, and power issues.. i have a lot of them lately 😦

[dusky plank]

you nearly can't get pure 802.11b chipsets anymore

[jovial marten]

well, that may be true, BUT the sonoff dw2-wifi door/window sensors are 802.11b only

they will not pair on g/n/ac

yeah, so bad that i dont use them

[dusky plank]

is this 1999?

[jovial marten]

because my unifi access points require 'legacy mode' enabled to support 'b'

and that impacts performance

[dusky plank]

you have to know that almost every AP downgrades the other clients also to b if there is only a single device talking in b

[jovial marten]

yeah

but i dont have 'legacy' enabled normally

[clear ferry]

b is still the norm for DIY esp

[jovial marten]

so i stopped using the dw2 because of that

i havent found anything else that uses purely 802.11b yet

im certainly not willing to lower my network performance just to have a couple of cheap (and not reliable) wifi door sensors

so i switched to some zigbee ones instead

this is why i am cautious of the sonoff l2... incase they are actually 802.11b only

i assumed the dw2-wifi was 'b only' for power consumption reasons?

[clear ferry]

This is why I run separate APs for iot

[jovial marten]

on the topic of door sensors.. now that i am using ZHA, what are some decent/cheap zigbee door sensors?

[clear ferry]

The ssid is idIoT

[jovial marten]

i have an IoT VLAN, but on the same APs

[clear ferry]

I do not have an iot vlan

[dusky plank]

https://neuralblender.com/
this is so weird 😅

[young sigil]

What is it? All I see is a progress spinner...

[dusky plank]

spits out all kinds of neural generated images I believe

[young sigil]

Oh I was supposed to type something in the text box.

[clear ferry]

It is working really hard to generate haos sucks

[proven spruce]

nft that!

[subtle pasture]

Really? Both the ESP8266 and ESP32 support B/G/N

[last dirge]

ayyy, I can start work now

[subtle pasture]

They're limited to 2.4 GHz, but they don't require 802.11B data rates

[last dirge]

fixed my fuckup from last night

[brisk glen]

leave my 5ghz alone

all I care about

well my 2 5Ghz bands

[sand agate]

Does anyone here do network monitoring outside of Home Assistant? Like with librenms or similar?

[last cedar]

I just watch all the blinking lights, very closely

https://tenor.com/view/raccoons-surprise-gif-3472929

[subtle pasture]

I run Observium. I got tired of LibreNMS breaking itself with every update, and the toxic community

Observium is what LibreNMS is originally based on, anyway 🤷‍♀️

[sand agate]

Do you just use the community version?

[subtle pasture]

At the moment, yeah

LibreNMS doesn't paywall any features, but it also wasn't stable... Ever...

Observium has been solid as a rock

[sand agate]

What kind of hardware do you run it on? Debating on how I should run this on my proxmox machine

[subtle pasture]

I just have it running in a virtual machine on one of my ESXi hosts

[sand agate]

ok cool. Looks like they have a turnkey CT template for proxmox. Guess I will give it a go

[subtle pasture]

I took a pass on Proxmox. Looking into RedHat Virtualization / oVirt now

oVirt being the free version of RHV / the original project that RedHat bought to create RHV

[subtle pasture]

It's also KVM based, but the documentation is so much better it's not even funny

[brisk glen]

Oh really? Is the performance better or something?

Oh, it’s just a manager

[subtle pasture]

That's basically all Proxmox is, too

[brisk glen]

I have been using hyper-v and powershell too much lately

I had what is a GUI moment

[subtle pasture]

I'm a fan of Hyper-V, but they killed the free version

[brisk glen]

In what?

[subtle pasture]

Hyper-V Server 2019 is the last free version of Hyper-V

There will be no Hyper-V Server 2022, you have to buy Server 2022 Standard/Datacenter, and install the Hyper-V role

[brisk glen]

Ah…. I get data center for free from work

Or I just run off pro

Or…. K3s/docker

[dusky plank]

laughs in docker-virt-manager

[subtle pasture]

The biggest reason I went with oVirt is because it's actually supported by industry-standard backup software like Veeam

I was backing up my entire ESXi cluster with Veeam, so migrating to oVirt was as simple as restoring backups on the new hosts

And I got to keep all my backup chains

I still haven't found any decent backup software for Proxmox 🤷‍♀️

[dusky plank]

proxmox comes with backup management included?

[subtle pasture]

Doesn't really help me get my VMs on it, or help me retain my previous backup chains...

That's great if you've always been, and will forever be, using Proxmox, I suppose

I've tried migrating ESXi virtual machines to Proxmox. Failed hard due to the disk controller and networking changes.

[dusky plank]

I see your point, but not everything can be compatible to anything, especially opensource to proprietary 😄

[subtle pasture]

I mean, RHV managed to get support from Veeam >_>

And, by extension, oVirt

Veeam also supports Hyper-V and ESXi, making it possible to migrate between any of the three at a whim

Same goes for Acronis Hypervisor Backup, no support for Proxmox there, either, but you bet it supports Hyper-V, ESXi, and RHV

[dusky plank]

seems to me its only a matter of time when veeam will also support proxmox

nothing preventing them not to do it

[subtle pasture]

Nobody uses Proxmox in enterprise 🤷‍♀️

RHV got support because people actually use RedHat products in the real world

[dusky plank]

i stick with kvm and virt manager in docker 😄 I don't like the restrictions of esxi or hyperv 🦐

[subtle pasture]

What restrictions? They're bare-metal hypervisors >_>

They run virtual machines and docker containers, just like a linux install with KVM

[dusky plank]

eh, everythin i will list will mean nothing to you, so I dont even start 😄

[subtle pasture]

Just not sure how there can be a restriction when you can spin up a VM or container to do anything you want 🤷‍♀️

[brisk glen]

K3s and ansible

🤷

[dusky plank]

esxi takes whole chunks of disks

[subtle pasture]

I have issues with ansible because it's not state-aware

[dusky plank]

it also always takes the first HID usb devices it sees for itself

no passthrough

see, there are coming arguments which mean nothing to me

[subtle pasture]

ESXi takes 8GB of space for itself, you can do whatever you want with the rest... and HID passthrough is supported and has worked fine since ESXi 5

I generally pass an entire USB host controller (as a PCIe device) through to a VM if I need solid USB support, and that goes for any hypervisor.

[brisk glen]

I haven’t had the need to use vms lately unless it’s windows

Then I might as well use hyper-v

[dusky plank]

🤢

[brisk glen]

We also use Cisco and are funded by tax payer $$$

A lot of wtf goes around

[peak creek]

Upgrade to Windows 11? [Yes/No/Are you insane?]

[lofty junco]

Yes

[scenic radish]

Didn't they screw with the taskbar in 11?

I'm definitely holding off on my work machine for now either way

[peak creek]

Yeah, they try to copy Mac OS, but I am fine with the taskbar

[forest edge]

wait they are offering win 11 for free?

or you talking about the next win 10 feature update

[peak creek]

My windows offer to update

[lofty junco]

if you have Windows 10 you can update for free

[peak creek]

From past experience I learned that eventually everyone will upgrade so I see no reason waiting with it

[forest edge]

is it apples to apples, like win 10 pro gets win 11 pro

[peak creek]

I will make an image of the current system so I can always go back

[forest edge]

I see they are doing a limited time upgrade for free.. that always makes me weary lol

[peak creek]

They want people to start using it so they push it

[peak creek]

Yes

[lofty junco]

yes

[peak creek]

Note that your hardware needs to have TPM 2.0

[forest edge]

yea thats so dumb lol

[peak creek]

Luckily I had it, just needed to enable Intel PPT in the bios, this is really confusing since the board also has an header for an external TPM device

[lofty junco]

security is not dumb is it?

I see why they do this

[peak creek]

I can also understand why, but IMO this shouldn't be a mandatory requirement, just a recommended option

[lofty junco]

well there is a way around it right?

some regkey?

[peak creek]

Yes, exactly a regkey can bypass it at least for installation

I am not sure what will happen in the long run

[forest edge]

it's dumb cause it's a requirement

I have older pc's that are still viable that don't have PTT

[lofty junco]

they could keep Windows 10 for multiple years?

[forest edge]

I could run earlier versions of win10 on them but not later versions

[lofty junco]

oh that is a pain

[forest edge]

should be one of those things that is just optional, if you got it great, if not then whatever

[peak creek]

yep

I hope it isn't going to be another Vista / Win8

[subtle pasture]

"Limited time"
You can still upgrade directly from 7 to 10 for free. lol

[scenic radish]

Everything is for a limited time when you think about it

[subtle pasture]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/404363439201320972/580873257394110465/1506822492934.gif

[tepid fossil]

do you thing using smart home related DNS records is a security risk?

[red glacier]

Yall see intels new 12th gen chips?? Fricken sweet. Variable cores!

[subtle pasture]

Yeah, I'm looking at getting a Core i5 12600k

Because it's faster than literally every 11th gen CPU Intel made...

Glad I didn't buy an i9 11900k now, lol

The big issue is finding DDR5 RAM, it's out of stock everywhere

[brisk glen]

A nice upgrade but still uses way too much power

[subtle pasture]

The i5? Nah, it's power draw is just fine

Faster than all of 11th gen, and runs cooler

[brisk glen]

M1 MAX :p

I’m glad intel is finally putting out something decent

[subtle pasture]

Don't care about Apple hardware, though Alder Lake beats the M1 Max in a number of scenarios

[brisk glen]

Loosing Apple is forcing them to make better chips

Well yah, the power draw is 4x over M1 max

[subtle pasture]

I figured pressure from AMD was the bigger driving force

[brisk glen]

I think both

Apple was the massive wake up call

[subtle pasture]

The i5 12600k basically points at the Ryzen 5 5600X and says "Fuck you in particular"

Apple is a tiny portion of Intel's sales, they make most of their money selling server and office workstation hardware

[brisk glen]

Very true

I do like the 12th gen

It’s something worth upgrading to

[subtle pasture]

As far as Alder Lake power consumption goes, it's a bit more nuanced than you might think. In most workloads, Intel's new chips draw LESS power than the equivalent AMD CPU

Alder Lake just boosts too hard under sustained load

The high sustained boost frequency is why the power consumption looks nuts in synthetic benchmarks

[brisk glen]

I’m excited about a new NUC like pc with this

[red glacier]

I thought the 12th gen used less power since they're variable cores?

[brisk glen]

Low power until I am transcoding

[red glacier]

Obviously more power while needed ie resources demand

[subtle pasture]

Transcoding isn't actually an issue

Raytracing is :P

[brisk glen]

Meh, my phone can raytrace

[red glacier]

But trans uses LOTS of CPU doee

[subtle pasture]

12th gen can transcode all day long

[red glacier]

Yea, dedicate like 3 cores to that shizzle and only be at like 8%

[subtle pasture]

It also has QuickSync, so transcoding can be GPU accelerated using the iGPU

[brisk glen]

Apple’s neural cores are great for ray

I see a new Plex server 🙂

[subtle pasture]

I'm talking about movie-quality CPU raytracing, not the real-time stuff

[brisk glen]

Ah

[subtle pasture]

@brisk glen I want one of Intel's new graphics cards for my Plex server

QuickSync on a PCIe card? Yes please

[brisk glen]

I’m about to go from a pi to a big upgrade

[red glacier]

Oh yea, 2009 lappy is even a huge upgrade from pi

Pi's are nice to play around with. But you'll ALWAYS want to expand lol

[brisk glen]

Well.. my Mac transcodes the OTA tv

But that kills one of my Wi-Fi 5ghz bands

[subtle pasture]

OTA TV is easy, it's transcoding 4k h265 for old clients that's killing me

I just got a GTX 1660 Ti to shove in my Plex server for transcoding

[brisk glen]

Oh yah…. My moms stupid super thin laptop can do that now and stay cold

It’s not fair

[red glacier]

I still have a damn 970 🤣🤣🤣

[brisk glen]

M1 is kinda great for transcoding

[subtle pasture]

I have a spare 970... Doesn't help. Transcode unit is too old to support the required codecs. Lol

That's why I hunted down a 1660 Ti

It has the same transcoding unit as the RTX 20 series

[red glacier]

Mind if i ask what you paid for the 1660

[subtle pasture]

$450

[red glacier]

That's not a terrible price

[subtle pasture]

Bought it directly off a friend of a friend

[brisk glen]

Yah… I’ll stick with my low power transcoding

[subtle pasture]

This is low power transcoding, lol

Nvidia cards have dedicated die space for encoding and decoding. It sips power :)

[brisk glen]

Oh?

[red glacier]

What!

I didn't know that lol

[subtle pasture]

Should handle 30+ 1080p streams, as long as it doesn't run out of video RAM

[red glacier]

3g of vram should keep it happy right?

[subtle pasture]

This card has 6GB, so it's good

[red glacier]

So you couldn't transcode and say play COD at the same time without noticing a decent hit on performance

[subtle pasture]

I wish Nvidia would realease a low-end Quadro with, like, no 3D performance, but the same transcode unit as the GTX 16 /RTX 20 series, paired with gobs of slow-ish RAM

Would be the perfect card for a Plex server, and miners wouldn't want it

[dusky plank]

amd bullies intel

[red glacier]

But there's no money in that then 😂

[dusky plank]

apple bullies intel and amd

nvidia in a few years bullies all of them with arm

[subtle pasture]

You absolutely can, it's called Nvidia ShadowPlay!

[brisk glen]

I might buy an M1 Mac mini just for a super low power Plex server

[red glacier]

I've never actually been able to use shadowplay just yet 🤣 zero experience with that currently

[dusky plank]

m1max mini is all i want

[subtle pasture]

You can record/stream your gameplay with zero performance impact, because the encoding happens on dedicated hardware inside the GPU

[red glacier]

Ooooo

That's pretty tight

[subtle pasture]

That's also how Nvidia GameStream (local game streaming between your PC and an Nvidia Shield) works

[dusky plank]

or, maybe m2max in a mini

[red glacier]

Lol didn't the shield die a few years ago

Like, nearly a hard fail?

[subtle pasture]

The handheld did, the Shield TV is still going strong

[red glacier]

Oh really

[subtle pasture]

They just released two new Shield TVs

A stick, and a new full-size unit

[red glacier]

Huh, intresting

[subtle pasture]

The original Shield also holds the record for "longest continuously supported Android device"

So props to Nvidia, there

It still gets updates

[red glacier]

Side note. I've been thinking of building a pfsense box

Wonder how a plex extension would clash with the pf sense

[subtle pasture]

I'm running pfSense on a dedicated physical box, works fine with Plex

[red glacier]

Running plex off pf sense as an extension?

Or you have a dedicated plex box as well

[subtle pasture]

Oh, no, Plex runs in a VM elsewhere inside the network on a different physical server

I wouldn't run anything else on the firewall, if you can help it

[red glacier]

Oh exactly. I was gonna run it in a vm too

Does pf sense have integration for wireguard yet?

[brisk glen]

Wtf

This is…

[subtle pasture]

De-emphasized doesn't mean "immediately moved to efficiency cores"

It could if the in-focus application demands enough performance to knock the background app over, though

You can also disable the efficiency cores at will with the Scroll Lock key (enable "Legacy Game Mode" in your BIOS)

So if you're really worried it's hurting performance, you can tap Scroll Lock to force the CPU to use nothing but performance cores

This also automatically increases the P core boost clock slightly, given that there's some addition thermal/power headroom with all the E cores disabled

[green inlet]

I would suggest opnsense over pfsense. Pretty sure a large portion of the interwebs agrees.

[red glacier]

Interesting. Never dabbles with opnsesnse, better configurability over all?

[green inlet]

Google opnsense vs pfsense and make your own decision 😉

As a caveat, I started with opnsense, never used pfsense. But I did google and ask people here before going forward

[subtle pasture]

It's available as a package. Integration into the base install is pending.

I've used both. I investigated OpnSense when there was talk of pfSense dropping support for CPUs without hardware AES support (I was using an older hardware appliance at the time)

I wound up buying new hardware to future proof for pfSense, though they eventually dropped the AES requirement anyway

OpnSense didn't quite do it for me

You can always try both and see which you like better

[static schooner]

I've been using pfSense for years and played with OPNSense in a VM with the intention of migrating one weekend, but I wasn't blown away with it being much more intuitive or easier to use

maybe I'll revisit at some point, but it didn't seem worth the effort to move from a working pfSense install to OPNSense without immediately getting something out of it

maybe if pfSense didn't have a Wireguard package immediately as it was (temporarily) dropped from the base install

but even that was a fairly simple switchover

[scenic radish]

I'm lazy and just use an edgerouter x

[static schooner]

I'm sure I don't need pfSense, but I certainly feeler cooler as a result of using it

it is nice to have DNS and DHCP all working together in the same box

I had services spread out on other boxes before it

[scenic radish]

Well that's all that matters really

[forest edge]

You gonna buy a netgate router? I had looked at those

[last cedar]

Same here, will also recommend opnsense. Have 2 machines running it without issues, soon to be 3

[last cedar]

And your NUT server, adblocking, NTP server, etc etc

[glacial knot]

anyone got a good idea for a self-hosted photosharing solution?
I tried owncloud (don't like that they only have tiny thumbnails/list preview)
Lychee (would be ok, but looks like a pain to set up)
Piwigo (failed to setup properly and I don't want to invest a lot of time)

Didn't take a look at, because I don't want to dockerize: photoprism

[forest edge]

did you try nextcloud? owncloud and nextcloud stem from the same thing but both decided to focus on separate things. nextcloud might have focused on more of what your looking for

[glacial knot]

installing it right now. It does look like they have a nice photo browser preview

[last cedar]

Was also going to say nextcloud

It is normally recommended before owncloud

Good luck

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/BRaW0mNChIA

[shy abyss]

IT DOES?!

I have one of those...

should go drag it out and update it...

[fallow karma]

Is Esp32-H2 released already?

[fringe whale]

Hi, anyone know a site / service where i can ask someone to make me a floor plan background and some other assets? the only style i found that i like seems to be done in Sketch and i have no mac (tried some of the other floor plan sw but they do not offer the look i am after) "dark mode" minimalistic only "room" outlines. i have the "official" floor-plan images

and an example of what i am looking for

[marble bobcat]

Does esphome have a discord channel like this one or where should i ask questions about that ?

[static schooner]

https://discord.gg/WQkDAuC7

[marble bobcat]

Thank you very much

[last cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/raccoonfanclub/comments/qn51a1/yoo_my_new_raccoon_just_arrived/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[last cedar]

I want this so bad

[hollow glacier]

Maybe fiverr and hope the guy doesn’t suck?

[median loom]

I don't want to post in wrong channels. Is there one for absolute newbies in Home Assistant?

[glacial knot]

Not really. But #general-archived is the catch-all for actual support

[median loom]

cheers

[clever mortar]

Do read the channel topics

(top of the window)

[glacial knot]

You with your crazy ideas

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/im-going-crazy-clap-happy-snow-white-gif-17192152

[glacial knot]

I feel like we had almost exacly these lines before in here 😄

[clever mortar]

Nah... I never have to point out the obvious on an hourly basis

(if you've never used Discord, I'm sure topics and pinned messages aren't obvious, but if you have...)

[glacial knot]

I consider pinned messages pretty obscure, even though I've used discord before

topics are a little better

[clever mortar]

I've clearly used too many different platforms over the years - topics and pinned messages seem to be pretty common

[glacial knot]

mhh, I'm used to IRC pushing them into my face like motds when I join

it's less the concept and more the UI that I lament with discord
At least topics are displayed by default

[clear ferry]

🏓

IRC, what is this? 1997?

[glacial knot]

2021

[turbid stirrup]

On desktop there is an IRC-like layout for Discord

[clear ferry]

🤢

If only I could use cordless

😢

[glacial knot]

You mean, the usable one?

[turbid stirrup]

Discordless?

[clear ferry]

https://github.com/Bios-Marcel/cordless

[turbid stirrup]

Nice

[glacial knot]

not via libpurple into actual irc? :/

[forest edge]

you would use something like you goober

[clear ferry]

Yes, me English good

🦴

[forest edge]

"I wanna live in the 80's.. dos prompt here i come!"

[midnight adder]

Nasty weather right now 😱

[dusky plank]

be like hector

[blissful hull]

Birdattack 🙂

Esphome, espeye

[clear ferry]

Love the Tibber only charging when it is cheaper @last cedar

[last cedar]

Yes, it is aa great feature @clear ferry

But now I am on fixed price :D

[clear ferry]

Fixed 😶‍🌫️

[last cedar]

You are charging from a normal socket right?

[clear ferry]

Yes

Shuko with either 6-8-10A

I can select

[last cedar]

Sweet

I was paying about 0,74 with Tibber. Thanks to high prices. Fixed price is now 0,64

[clear ferry]

Noice, my father pays 0.12 today, I pay 1.10

😢

[last cedar]

And there is a lot of talk about energy price hikes etc on the way, if there isn't much wind etc

So it seemed smart to to fixed, 3 years, at the lowest price I could get

One of the fast charging companies were taking 8,7kr per kW iirc 🤣

Let me see if I can find the article

[clear ferry]

It took 4kwh to charge from 0-100

So it isn't bad

Gave us 35km range in 0c today

[last cedar]

That is super respectable!

I am planning to charge at 1 phase 10A with the ladd box. No point rushing it with the hybrid with 13kW battery

Need to get a box though haha

[clear ferry]

Yeah, my thoughts too

Might get a dual box if I replaced the v70

[last cedar]

I am also considering that

But they cost literally double the price

You can just piggyback the electric and mbus cable and add another later

For the same price

[clear ferry]

Yeah, but then I would replace it with a full electric

[last cedar]

Which is pretty crazy tbh

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-is-the-new-black-crazy-eyes-suzanne-crazy-im-not-crazy-gif-3670202

[last cedar]

Obviously they would be limited to the rating on the first cable

Which in my case would be 3 ph 16A

You are crazy

Missleading gif

[clear ferry]

😶‍🌫️

[last cedar]

Yep, great solution

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/i-cant-wait-to-dig-deeper-freddie-harper-ollie-harper-todd-harper-the-harper-house-gif-23368278

[last cedar]

I think at this point everyone is so focused on co2 that the digging for cobalt and other rare metals is seen as an acceptable risk

[fallow karma]

As I said, 70% electricity in my country coming from burning coal.

[last cedar]

If the public transportation networks were better a long time ago, a lot of people wouldn't need a car

[fallow karma]

Public transportation on suburbs here is like meh

[last cedar]

But these days everyone has a car, so hard to make them sell it, in order to save the planet

We have a bus maybe once every 2 hours during thr day?

Family of 4, 3 of us have to get to work/ school

Trains go more often, but I can't take my tools with me on bus or train

So we all 3 travel for 1 car journey

[fallow karma]

I've got bus every 30 min, but it goes around, i need an hour to go with a bus to my work. It's 8 kilometers. I can ride it 12 minutes with a car

[last cedar]

Mmmm

[fallow karma]

So we rides together with my apprentice

[last cedar]

More frequent busses probably wouldn't need to stop as often,. Faster journeys

But yeah, child labour for cobalt vs co2

Do lipo batteries still need cobalt?

Or just li ion?

[fallow karma]

And i take my kid to school on the way, so it's kind of collective transport

[fallow karma]

No idea

[last cedar]

I have 3 toolbags, 4 boxes of screws and some drums of cable too :/

[orchid peak]

is there any good solution any ways ?

[fallow karma]

Fuel cells

😎

[clear ferry]

If I could get a car to run on my farts it would run forever

[scenic radish]

Have you tried a change in diet?

[hollow glacier]

I thought Taco Bell 🌮 and beano cancelled each other out?

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/carfart-gif-20861812

[cerulean nymph]

I am assuming all will be fine with daylight savings time

🙂

with automations on time schedules

[static schooner]

If you have the latest 2021.10 or 2021.11

[cerulean nymph]

I am one update (most recent) behind

2021.10.6

Also, finally got my wife to allow me to automate some of my kids bedtime routine. She is pretty anti technology 🙂 Hopefully it goes well

[green inlet]

You need to be on 2021.10.7 or 2021.11.1

[cerulean nymph]

newest version for me is 2021.11.1

ok

I see you updated it

[green inlet]

Yea….thought they did .2 but a quick look at the website proved me wrong 🤣

[cerulean nymph]

will it break my tuya again

I am assuming not

[green inlet]

Read the breaking changes

[cerulean nymph]

though not like I have much of a choice

working on it now

[green inlet]

You can go to 2021.10.7 for the DST fix

[cerulean nymph]

I will probably just go all the way

this is not a mission critical situation

and I am not going to just not update it

might as well see what breaks 🙂

but I am on the new API for tuya so looks like I am fine

[green inlet]

And just for posterity sake. They try to keep support questions out of #the-water-cooler

[cerulean nymph]

sorry I was kinda half joking in the begining. Then it turned into a real thing...

I figured it was fine. Didnt have a chance to read the release notes and see a DST bug

[green inlet]

All good. Just moving forward 😉

[cerulean nymph]

of course. I am glad I said something and thanks for the help

[orchid rose]

Got to watch this now. Imagine being so good it sounds decent in Norwegian...

the rolling stone cover was nice though

There's been something similar in Finnish as well. Surprisingly I don't hate it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmpiFoT-sac

[forest edge]

welp those poor children who weren't forced (by court ruling) to work in the cobalt mines won't get a dime from the big tech companies

[clear ferry]

The Changing of The Guard cover was amazing

[clear ferry]

Dat video though

[glacial knot]

"good". But at least it's morning

I'm tempted to get nitro, just so I don't have to remember this channel blocks my twitch emotes :/

[clear ferry]

🦴 🇷

[young sigil]

🚨 Controversial topic warning. 🚨 Reverse polish notation calculators are the best. Slight human training ouweighs massive machine efficency. Long live the HP42s and its predecessors.

[glacial knot]

reverse polish is stack?

[low harness]

This you @clear ferry? https://reddit.com/r/PewdiepieSubmissions/comments/qoi099/a_robot_that_hates_sweden/

[clear ferry]

What about forward polish

[young sigil]

Is that really a thing? Goes off wikying...

All I found was a political movement. Which is against the unwritten 'no politics, no religion' rule.

[clear ferry]

I see humour has left the building, or died on a toilet

Adding more CPUs to my labs

[clear ferry]

Need to get those 4GB dimms replaced with 16G dimms though

[clear ferry]

Power usage ain't too bad with 224GB RAM and 20 cores \ 40 logical CPUs

[dusky plank]

I use almost a third for my whole setup 😅

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/buXuC.gif

[dusky plank]

also 20 cores 😉

[clear ferry]

but can it run a full nested Vmware Cloud Foundation + more ? 😛

[dusky plank]

#integrations-archived message

[clear ferry]

How dare you use my own words against me

https://tenor.com/bbEm5.gif

Also, local cloud != pathetic cloud

that would be 4% of my total house power draw right now though

[glacial knot]

Is that a Xeon? 20 cores feels low for a server these days

[clear ferry]

It is 10 years old

so 10 cores per socket wasn't half bad

these days I mostly install 28core sockets though

ach, house power draw is up, now it is only pulling 2% of my house power

😄

[glacial knot]

Does HP pay your power bill?

[clear ferry]

indirectly yes, since they pay my salary

😄

I have told the EU manager I want them to start covering my electricity bill explicitly, but that wasn't really a concern until recent times anyway

since I paid NOK0.03 per kWh

these days it is averaging NOK1.00 though

[ashen magnet]

so was the 0.03 heavily subsidized and 1 is closer to real real prices, or did someone just make decades of really stupid decisions that inflated the real price from 0.03 to 1?

[glacial knot]

That’s still less than half of what I pay 😦

[hushed basalt]

Why the increase

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-tales-capitalism-scrooge-thats-capitalism-gif-16461232

[clear ferry]

Historically I have paid 0.30-0.45 the last 10 years

[dusky plank]

TIL proxmox is from austria

[clear ferry]

🤢

Proxmox

[scenic radish]

https://c.tenor.com/XGAYnXw98EIAAAAM/stupid-dumb-and-dumber.gif

[clear ferry]

Such jpeg wow

[ashen magnet]

It's usually not capitalism that does that explicitly, it's capitalism enabled by natural or government created market power situations. Properly regulated capitalism will try to create market power for itself and it is the government's job to mitigate that They are supposed to constrain the capitalist situation to free markets with competition rather than letting it end at the point where communism begins, a monopoly/oligopoly.

[dusky plank]

well yes, all good and everything, but have you ever had real good potato salad?

[clear ferry]

I love my wife's potato salad

She gets angry when I toss it around the room though

[dusky plank]

de-escalation 💯

[ashen magnet]

you guys are odd ducks, who haven't done the root cause analysis on what happened to electricity prices in Norway I was asking about, lol.

[clear ferry]

😶‍🌫️

[west flame]

I am new in this community. I just updated to 6.6 version of home assistant and found an important bug. Where should I create a ticket for the same?

[clear ferry]

#330990055533576204 can assist you

[umbral cliff]

I wish I had energy prices that low

[clear ferry]

We only have high prices in the South now

My father still pays 0.12 nok per kwh

[last cedar]

They ran out of mountains to run water down

It is completely flat now

Like the rest of the planet

https://tenor.com/view/surf-surfing-cliff-edge-art-gif-17787548

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/crybaby-crying-its-flat-gif-13616797

[static schooner]

Can’t you just pump the water back to the top?

[scenic radish]

[clear ferry]

https://c.tenor.com/57CKArurPw0AAAAM/smarty-pants.gif

[wanton mortar]

anyone have any idea where to get a Raspberry PI 3 b. everywhere is sold out

[clear ferry]

Where in the world you are probably matters (but since it isn't mentioned I'm guessing murica)

Also , why a pi?

@forest edge you will love this, they have started dismantling the copper phone line networks now

[wanton mortar]

yeah America and because i need it for hyperion and its easy

[last cedar]

Can you grab a 4 instead?

[wanton mortar]

i just didnt wanna spend the extra money honestly

[wanton mortar]

all i really need is a PI zero honestly

[last cedar]

Fair enough!

[wanton mortar]

yeah the PI is the only thing i cant get

[clear ferry]

Hyperion only needs zero yeah

They are readily available all over Norway as far as I can see

I even have two spare one

For when I have time for Hyperion

[last cedar]

Rofl

Imagine having time

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/john-jonah-jameson-lol-laughing-hysterically-laughing-out-loud-funny-gif-17710543

[wanton mortar]

@clear ferry i just went through every retailer on there website and sold out everywhere except the starter kit

[last cedar]

Atx can send you one.

[wanton mortar]

ooh found 1 on adafruit

[last cedar]

On the back of a moose

[glacial knot]

I could just get it on amazon /shrug

[clear ferry]

The three is sold out everywhere here too

Probably end of life

[glacial knot]

3B is surprisingly expensive though

there's some in stock here. But it's more expensive than the smaller 4B ones

[clear ferry]

Kids toys are popular this time of year

[wanton mortar]

i might just snag this

https://www.adafruit.com/product/3708?gclid=Cj0KCQjw8p2MBhCiARIsADDUFVF4HgCv3zZp705rSFKoak04UhPsbXm885n0WW5U5HL2Hm7VsrnIly4aAtqqEALw_wcB

this shoudl work for what i need

[clear ferry]

It will

Diz u @last cedar ?

https://i.redd.it/nq3mz65o46y71.jpg

[static schooner]

It’s like a Flintstones outlet where where the mice hold the prongs and the tails are the wiring

[clear ferry]

🤨

[wanton mortar]

thats crazy looking!

[subtle pasture]

It'll run on pretty much any Pi, honestly. Even the original Pi 1

So if you have one of those collecting dust, go for it

[clear ferry]

I have one of those too

Time however

[scenic radish]

but i thought you 🤢 pis

[clear ferry]

But I 😍 you and I have 0 teddis

So there must be a pattern

[subtle pasture]

Does Hyperion still require software running on your PC to work, or does it use an HDMI splitter + capture card now?

[scenic radish]

i have 37 lamborghinis in my lamborghini account

[clear ferry]

Splitter capture card via usb

[subtle pasture]

Isn't that Lightberry?

[clear ferry]

Not last I ordered parts, that was a year ago

[subtle pasture]

Hyperion always seems to use no capture card + software screen capture

Hmm, looks like it does support both options now. Nice.

Just need to find an HDMI splitter that can keep up with your display...

Really, a DisplayPort splitter would be best. HDMI is pretty limiting (no variable refresh rate support)

[last cedar]

Nope

And stop distubing me whilst I am at work

[subtle pasture]

Hmm, yeah, seems like the Hyperion folks still don't have a hardware solution figured out for DisplayPort

Which means you can't use it with high refresh rate / variable refresh rate monitors without using software that does constant screengrabbing in the background

[last cedar]

This network won't administer itself, you know

Doormats are not selling so well anymore

@clear ferry

This is also what you do right?

Sit in racks all day

[static schooner]

that's an analog network monitor

[clear ferry]

@last cedar

Hello

Are you there å@last cedar

Æøå

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-well-hi-cute-gif-15474141

[last cedar]

Nope

[clear ferry]

🏓

[forest edge]

thought you had said before they already done that

[clear ferry]

They stopped selling copper lines in 2009

And stopped repairing them in 2017

Now they are dismantling it and shutting it down in 2022

[dusky plank]

isn't vsync variable framerate?

my lg only has hdmi but features vsync

[forest edge]

@clear ferry I hope you all go wireless then some event happens that permanently causes you to have interference on anything wireless

like.. global warming lol

[clear ferry]

Well, we are already full wireless except for fiber and some older houses with coax

That will probably die before 2030

[forest edge]

we'll have every line ever made still available till the day comes one line is no longer used and needs to give up it's space for something else. which is unlikely lol

[restive vapor]

Finally

Installed home assistant core after some tinkering on a shared vps

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-thats-weird-gru-steve-carell-despicable-me2-strange-gif-16561721

[restive vapor]

But it works lol

[clever mortar]

It's still weird

There are others who've decided to run HA in the cloud too, so you're not the only person who's taken that rather strange approach

[restive vapor]

Just the weird home address

Lol

[red glacier]

😡 well. My hot tub decided its not gonna be hot.

That's lame

[tough igloo]

Does it still tub though?

[scenic radish]

Yeah, but it's out of hot

[subtle pasture]

Vsync isn't variable, it just forces your graphics card to output in-sync with your monitor's refresh rate

Variable refresh rate is FreeSync or G-Sync

They force your monitor to refresh in-sync with your graphics card

So instead of forcing your graphics card to output a fixed 30/60/120/etc FPS, you force your monitor to refresh as soon as a frame is ready, whenever a frame is ready

This allows for lower latency, and means no pulldown (framerate conversion) is required, which gets rid of juddering

[finite atlas]

There are however adaptive versions of v-sync out there, faking a 60hz refreh rate to your monitor when your framerate is lower by inserting the same frame again if no new ones have been rendered

[subtle pasture]

Nvidia's "Adaptive V-Sync" still outputs frames synced to your monitor's refresh rate (so if your monitor is 60 Hz, you still get a new frame displayed every 16.66 ms)

The only difference is, internally, it renders as fast as possible, rather than only rendering a frame every 16.66ms

This means the frame you get will be closer to real-time than traditional v-sync, but it's still not variable refresh rate.

[subtle pasture]

Repeating the same frame is called pulldown, and is what causes that weird stuttering effect when you watch 24FPS content on a 60Hz screen.

because 24 doesn't go into 60 evenly

That's one of the biggest reasons 120 Hz TVs became a big thing: They can display 24FPS content without changing refresh rate to do so, because 24 goes into 120 evenly

120Hz is nice for TVs because they can display 24, 30, and 60FPS content with an even-multiple pulldown.

I also generally find, if I have to use a fixed refresh rate on a PC monitor, that 120Hz tends to be a better overall experience than 144 Hz, for the same reason. Watching 30 and 60FPS content on a 144Hz monitor isn't as smooth as a 120Hz monitor, because 30 and 60 don't go into 144 evenly.

Variable refresh rate fixes all this, though 🤷‍♀️

[forest edge]

Considering we can only see roughly 30-60 frames a second with our human eye

[subtle pasture]

Not true, our ability to distinguish changes in our visual field is dependent on contrast

The larger the change in brightness, the faster we can perceive it

Humans can see up to about 1000 Hz / 1 kHz if the contrast is high enough.

It's more common to see this now, with LED light sources, because they have nearly instant-on / instant-off

Older incandescent and fluorescent sources do not go completely dark for several tens of milliseconds after being powered off, meaning the contrast between on and off is lower (while flickering at a particular frequency) because they never actually return to a fully off/dark state, thereby making the flicker less easily perceived.

[glacial knot]

don't we all love a nice 50Hz flicker?

[subtle pasture]

This is also why 60 Hz is tolerable on CRT monitors. The phosphor doesn't fade to back to black instantly. If it did, the 60 Hz flicker would be incredibly noticeable.
Back in the day, you'd choose a CRT optimized for gaming by checking how "slow" the phosphor was (this specification will be noted by the manufacturer on any decent CRT). Slow phosphor was less prone to flicker, but more prone to smearing. Fast phosphor needed to be run at higher refresh rates to avoid noticeable flicker, but didn't smear as badly.

Fun fact: Human vision can suffer from the wagon-wheel effect at even multiples of 13 Hz, which is where you perceive a wheel rotating at a different rate (or even rotating in reverse of the expected direction) of its actual rate and direction of motion.

A 144 Hz monitor (or variable refresh rate monitor) can inherently reproduce this visual phenomenon

[finite atlas]

i love 50hz hums

[dusky plank]

oh my mistake… it has freesync! so variable refresh rate via hdmi! tadaa

[subtle pasture]

Looks like HDMI added official support for variable refresh rate with HDMI 2.1

[dusky plank]

see, hdmi not bad

[subtle pasture]

Which means you need an RTX 3000 series card, or RX 6000 series card, to use freesync over HDMI... Because they were the first to add HDMI 2.1 support...

Where as it works over any DisplayPort going back a decade

[dusky plank]

or a ps5?

ps has 2.1

[subtle pasture]

Yeah, also hard to find :P

[forest edge]

are you claiming the human eye can see 1000 fps?

[dusky plank]

got mine since last year 😄

[subtle pasture]

I have an RTX 2070, so FreeSync over HDMI is a no-go

Need a DisplayPort based solution for Hyperion

[subtle pasture]

Not just claiming, I even explained the particulars of it!

[dusky plank]

don‘t know why but the new macbooks only have 2.0 also… i will wait for the next generation, 120hz 4k 🤤

or use thunderbolt 🤔

[forest edge]

yet I don't see single reputable source backing up that claim, but there's plenty refuting it

[dusky plank]

I played some 120hz games on my ps5…

and couldnt notice a single difference from 60… guess im old

[subtle pasture]

I mean, I can stare at a LED blinking at 800Hz and see flicker

So explain that

[forest edge]

I think when people think they can see a difference in higher fps they are more perceiving smoother transitions than actually seeing more than 30-60fps

[dusky plank]

and yes, it was 4k120, my LG CX told me that in info

[forest edge]

you stated above that 120fps was smoother than 144 for you

[glacial knot]

is your TV set to 30Hz? 😄

[dusky plank]

over 9000

[subtle pasture]

I stated that it was an overall smoother experience because it doesn't require a bad pulldown ratio

[forest edge]

I think that has to do with the fact we are not machines, every human's ability to process is different so 120 may be smoother to one person while 144 may be smoother to someone else

[subtle pasture]

24, 30, and 60 all go into 120 evenly

So they all display smoothly

[forest edge]

but if your own max fps is like 48 and not 60 etc

[finite atlas]

no worries, i had a friend that couldnt see any difference between 30 and 144 hz and he was 16

[forest edge]

then that changes everything

[subtle pasture]

You can't display 60FPS on a 144Hz monitor without an uneven pulldown, which looks like stutter

[forest edge]

talking about the huamn's eye perception. same with why you think (or know) you can see led flicker, while others cannot etc

but as far as actual science. science has shown that human's can only see a maximum of 30 to 60 fps.. all of us within that range

[subtle pasture]

I can absolutely see 800+ Hz flicker, because I can see Hue bulbs flickering. Lol

[forest edge]

unless your an xmen]

[finite atlas]

i'd love to see that "science"

[subtle pasture]

60 FPS is nowhere near the max, and it depends heavily on the change in contrast been each frame

Staring at a LED light source with PWM flicker is actually a best case scenario for human visual acuity

[glacial knot]

also a bit on the definition of see
We can perceive that there's some change/flicker/whatever very quickly. But to make out what it is takes a lot longer

[finite atlas]

its like taste, it varies from person to person, by a lot

[forest edge]

this kind of explains it better https://www.healthline.com/health/human-eye-fps

there is hardware and software if you will to how we perceive the world. hardware wise is where the 30-60 range has always been stated

[finite atlas]

no sources for that claim

[forest edge]

you mean other than the begining of the link i just posted?

they explicitly mention the 30 to 60 range lol

[finite atlas]

yeah

i can just state "ooh grass is blue, trust me"

[subtle pasture]

Here's the thing, though... I would need a monitor running at a minimum of 800Hz, with a brightness of at least 800 lumens, to accurately replicate what I see when I look at a Hue bulb

[finite atlas]

and state is as a fact without any evidence

[glacial knot]

link that isn't even GDPR compliant. Who would trust that?

[subtle pasture]

And you'd need to deliver 800 FPS to that monitor, of course

[forest edge]

that article kind of touches on why we think or believe we can see faster images

and there are others like it

as i said, there is hardware and software side to our vision

our brains can process way faster

infact alot of our vision is our brains contructing the image even if it's something that isn't really there

I also think we kind of lose some of that "fps" if you will as we get older

[subtle pasture]

Then please, explain how you'd replicate the visual of an 800Hz flicker on a 60Hz display...

[finite atlas]

slowing the video down 😆

[subtle pasture]

Lol

[glacial knot]

some actually have that, because they PWM their light sources o.0

[forest edge]

we can't fully explain how our brains work as is.. be like trying to explain why someone can see ghosts

[glacial knot]

though iirc. some strobing is intentional on LCD background lighting

[subtle pasture]

Yeah, and it sucks. I have to shop for LCD monitors in-person to make sure the PWM frequency of the backlight is high enough to not see the flicker

Same issue with peripherals that have RGB, they often use PWM frequencies around 300Hz, which is way too low

[forest edge]

your vision might be just diffrent enough that certian things appear to you than most others

[finite atlas]

luckily, my vision isnt that sensible

[glacial knot]

F

it's not quite that bad for me. But I do tend to notice more flicker than most people. Whether the light is behind me, above me, or whereever doesn't matter

yea, 300Hz PWM on LEDs sucks 😦

[finite atlas]

i tend to see it better, when its at the edge of my vision field

[subtle pasture]

Gotta love cheap LED Christmas lights that are only half-wave rectified... That 60Hz flicker is blinding

It's like looking into a strobe light

[finite atlas]

fun times

[glacial knot]

I always thought that's intentional o.0

nobody can be that blind

[finite atlas]

well yes, but its to cheap out on the cost of parts

not so it strobes

[subtle pasture]

Full-wave rectified LED Christmas lights don't flicker, unless they have a PWM circuit

[finite atlas]

i can luckily change the pwm frequency of my led stuff with my pi pico

[subtle pasture]

Super cheap strings of lights just run enough LEDs in series so their total voltage = line voltage

They'll flicker at line frequency, because LEDs will only light up when current flows one direction, but not the other

[finite atlas]

how2 not design your electrical stuff

[subtle pasture]

Yeah, it gets worse when an LED fails. If it fails closed, the rest of the string keeps working, but at increased voltage...

[glacial knot]

I want to see enough LEDs in line for 230V o.0

[subtle pasture]

This accelerates the failure of the rest of the string

[subtle pasture]

Only takes 20 LEDs if they're 12v each

[finite atlas]

but 80ish if they are 3v like most common leds are

[forest edge]

you must be talking about imported christmas leds. not noticed any cheap ones from like walmart flicker

but then again, as the saying goes. you get what you pay for

[finite atlas]

well, you are also less likely to notice the flickering SonomaGTS as your eyes are not as sensible

[subtle pasture]

Seems like most of the sets sold in the US are the crap/cheap kind

You have to special-order full-wave rectified LED Christmas lights to get ones that don't flicker

[forest edge]

that is true, i am older and I also recovered from eye's disease both which has had it's impact on my eyes

[glacial knot]

12V LEDs o.0 I'm more used to the 3.3 or 5V ones...

you think walmart doesn't import the cheapest shit they can find? 😂

[forest edge]

just saying, I don't notice it lol

if i was in my 20's I probably would. I remember seeing lights that flicker when others couldn't see it

so i know that is a thing

[subtle pasture]

I'm just glad 1000bulbs.com exists. They sell full-wave rectified LED lights of all kinds

All my Christmas lights are from them. Lol

[finite atlas]

neat

[glacial knot]

I wonder if I should get some christmas lights o.0

but it's enough with the RGB I already got around my place D:

[finite atlas]

i wont get any

feels like just throwing money out the window

[dusky plank]

greta likes you

[subtle pasture]

Fair, though I've noticed good LED strings (for indoor use) seem to last basically forever

The outdoor ones, well... The elements eventually get to them

[finite atlas]

lol, i'm just mr. crabs

[glacial knot]

just doesn't like light pollution

[finite atlas]

just likes to not spend money at all

[forest edge]

I don't see how people can invest and put led strips around the outside of their house

[finite atlas]

it looks fancy

[forest edge]

you know some of those leds are gonna croak at some point

[finite atlas]

and bling bling

[forest edge]

and depending on the type of strip they will either take the whole strip with it or look like complete ass

[glacial knot]

yes, christmas lights have always been a scam

[forest edge]

and the only fix is to replace the entire line or do some soldiering on a ladder

[glacial knot]

but some people think they are pretty s/hrug

[finite atlas]

we have some and they do look neat ngl

but why buy new ones when the old ones do the trick aswell

[forest edge]

and what will people like @clear ferry do when they stop selling the cotton candy color strips

[finite atlas]

lets be honest, they will never stop selling those

[dusky plank]

we‘re good at something.. again

[forest edge]

is that a deaths from brown cheese chart

[worldly sierra]

My backups jumped from 2.5Gb to 7.6GB over night 😮 https://i.imgur.com/L110JMY.png

[clear ferry]

Haos backup 🤢

Ooof what a poor choice of name, I just noticed there is a company that markets itself as a simple HR system, they named themselves Simployers

👩‍💻

[dusky plank]

heh, its funny because of simp

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-angela-dwight-schrute-shocked-gif-13363502

Suddenly a wild Austrian appears

[clear ferry]

Here, have some Norwegian fall

[glacial knot]

looks like british summer

[clear ferry]

I know this will trigger @forest edge so I bought a waffle with brown cheese

[forest edge]

it's weird mstone graph of brown cheese deaths didn't have norway listed on it. I wonder maybe cause norwegians through centuries of eating the shit developed an immunity while everyone else around just dies from eating it

[white shale]

@clear ferry Where is the mountains

[clear ferry]

Fun fact for you

There is less mountains down south

[white shale]

I was in stavanger last week

[clear ferry]

Which is why southerners get surprised every time score ø snow cones

Northerners don't

I was in Stavanger once a week the last three weeks too

[white shale]

Yea - There atleast is some mountains there 😄

Im from Denmark with NO mountains whatsoever

[clear ferry]

Yes, some, puny pathetic ones 😶‍🌫️

Eastern Norway is mostly as flat as Denmark

[white shale]

Gonna take my bike up there for summer

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/bike-mini-bike-bycicle-ride-gif-16877331

[white shale]

Well with motor - Well fun fun

[clear ferry]

We've had a huge increase in motorcycle related deaths the last few years

[white shale]

https://tenor.com/view/independence-day-15th-aug-freedom-motorbike-riding-gif-12328263

[clear ferry]

I'm never getting one

I'll buy a convertible instead

[white shale]

Dad has one, so I just keep my mc

[finite atlas]

just get a twizy

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/bike-kid-fail-gif-10227547

[clear ferry]

Eh, if I can choose freely I'll take a Audi 80 convertible anno 1998

[clear ferry]

@white shale this is mountains

And my hometown

[white shale]

Yes yes . much better

[forest edge]

wow bet those people can't see the stars in the sky

[last cedar]

First gen m4 convertable for me 😻

[worldly sierra]

looked into the backup. ha log is 50GB 😂

[tame sand]

You must have some insane compression 🤔

[worldly sierra]

log files usually compress pretty good, especially with a lot of duplicated messages and white space.

[sudden dew]

guys hi i am new here and facing some problem can someone help me please?

[clever mortar]

Please read #rules and the channel topic here (top of the window)

[sudden dew]

oh ok

[clever mortar]

(and the message the bot DMd you)

[sudden dew]

oh ok

[clever mortar]

Once you've done that, start in the relevant channel

[sudden dew]

done reading sir but i need help

[clever mortar]

You didn't read the channel topic here, did you?

[sudden dew]

i did but can you help me just a little

[clever mortar]

Top of the window, it tells you where to start if you can't work out the channel that's relevant

[dusky plank]

Aparecium!

[clever mortar]

Evanesco

[velvet horizon]

The topic of this channel is:

There's no support for Home Assistant here - please look at the other channels for that. If you can't work out which is relevant, start in #general-archived.

If it's a question about the HA Amber see #yellow-archived, and #330990055533576204 for the Blue. Install related problems go to your Installation Method channel.

No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

If you found this server and want to know what it's about, start with the web site: https://www.home-assistant.io/

Remember when reporting spam to include a screenshot of the spam and the user's handle (eg @spammer#123)

Command '.topic' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[clever mortar]

If you can't work out which is relevant, start in #general-archived

☝️ @sudden dew

[worldly sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/harry-potter-serverus-snape-alan-rickman-snape-approves-gif-4590484

[sudden dew]

lol

[dawn prawn]

Any Unifi lovers wanna help a schlep out with his DHCP woes?

I’ll take Unifi haters too because I know there’s an abundance here

Somehow I can either A. Have internet access and nothing else really works, or B. Things work but I have no internet access. When the things don’t work, there’s some shady IP addresses ditched out, 169.255.x.x for example. I have a feeling it’s to do with DHCP or DNS settings, but can’t put my finger on it

[scenic radish]

169.x.x.x means "no IP address" basically

So a DHCP server issue

[dusky plank]

you could show us what you're doing in hangout

fun for everyone

[glacial knot]

we should invite atx 🙂

[dawn prawn]

It’s 12.44am here - I’ve just managed to get my sons night light running (WLED) so he stops waking up and losing his shit, maybe tomorrow lel

[dawn prawn]

He loves the Unifi user…

[dusky plank]

sharing is caring 😡 do it!

[dawn prawn]

I may have just solved tho… the WAN network had some 192.x address as the DNS server - changes to google’s and hey presto, things seem to be workimg

Working…

[dusky plank]

you clearly don't care about us, meh.

[dawn prawn]

I’ll give you an e-cuddle tomorrow if it doesn’t work…

Also, just got a new internet provider, claims of 1GB/S, and middle of night only getting 101mb/s 😭

[dusky plank]

give that e-cuddle to your poor son! it's over now!

[dawn prawn]

No doubt I’ll be up a few more times tonight for one, and a sheet change

[scenic radish]

not an issue if you're using something like adguard for DNS, but it sounds like you weren't 😄

[dawn prawn]

i wasn't, because i don't even know what that is.... has been a long time since I have had to do this lmao

googled, want...

[scenic radish]

also, google DNS 🤢

all about dat cloudflare boi

[dusky plank]

quad9 for me plz senpai

[scenic radish]

9️⃣ 9️⃣ 9️⃣ 9️⃣ ❗

[glacial knot]

run your own resolver!

[dusky plank]

010.010.010.010 is google trying to get users away from cloudflare, wake up sheeples!

[dawn prawn]

i love how dumb i feel when i come to the homeassistant discord.

any of you not work in the IT realm? haha

[scenic radish]

i don't

[dawn prawn]

in the past?

[scenic radish]

nope

[dawn prawn]

hur hur

[dawn prawn]

you are a god amongst men then

[scenic radish]

lol stupid wi-fi experience

[dawn prawn]

this is interesting tho...

lots of occurrences too...

[dusky plank]

it's the devices fault

unifi cannot possibly be held responsible

[scenic radish]

[dawn prawn]

its probably my fault rather than unifi's

here he is

atx time

[clear ferry]

Unifi 🤢

[dawn prawn]

slay me

hahaha

[scenic radish]

🤣

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/benedict-cumberbatch-a-wild-sherlock-appears-sherlock-holmes-sherlock-sherlocked-gif-9964747

[dawn prawn]

fix it then sherlock...

[scenic radish]

once my unifi APs die i'm not buying any more unifi kit

i recently bought a tp-link eap225 v3. i like it

[dusky plank]

nice to see you change gear that soon

[dawn prawn]

if i was starting over again, i would probably buy unifi as i am a lazy c***

[clear ferry]

You know what emoji to use @scenic radish

[dawn prawn]

i can hear a possum or koala on my balcony losing its shit, time to go sort the next problem out...

[scenic radish]

Is it freaking out because it can't get an IP address?

[dawn prawn]

If by IP address you mean a sexual partner, then yes…

[clear ferry]

Fun fact

All koala have Chlamydia

[dawn prawn]

Yes this is how I caught it

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/understandable-have-nice-day-have-a-great-day-have-a-good-day-nice-gif-20850110

[dawn prawn]

I’ve just moved into our new home, when it was built mid 80’s they must have wired it to be a ‘smart home’ then. There’s all kinds of switches that do nothing, some that turn specific power points on and off (all power points here have an isolation switch anyway…)

[hushed basalt]

It's a KGB safehouse

[dawn prawn]

And some sort of Crestron audio thing thru out the house that has ancient tech attached to it

Gonna be fun fixing this…

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/vladimir-putin-wink-president-of-russia-gif-14869234

[dawn prawn]

I’ve accused my USSR born missus of being a sleeper agent many times

[clear ferry]

That's gonna be a pita for security clearance

[dawn prawn]

Declared, still hold second highest clearance here…

Obviously my mate works for the vetting agency 😆

[clear ferry]

Second highest, what is this, clearance for ants

CTS or bust

[dawn prawn]

Difference between our top two is the real time information - whether you are exposed to it or not

Mine is more so exposure to ‘after the fact’

[clear ferry]

Quite a lot between NS and CTS

[dawn prawn]

Dunno what those stand for

Ours are negative and positive vetting

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-master-chef-pathetic-gif-14751319

[dawn prawn]

Bot TS clearances. One they crawl through your arse to assess. The other they crawl through your arse and have a party on the way to your mouth…

[clear ferry]

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/declassified_138449.htm

[dawn prawn]

Not in NATO sorry

Although I do have a nato medal 🤔

Too busy prepping for the big one with our greatest trade partner now…

[dawn prawn]

And after reading that, I guess they let dudes with KGB sleeper agents in their bed retain CTS equivalent

[clear ferry]

😶‍🌫️

[hushed basalt]

This is bad intelligence

He's obviously the commonwealth sleeper agent

Using his wife as a red herring

"that guy can't be a spy he has such an overtly suspect missus"

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-detector-maury-povich-paternity-liar-gif-12599954

[hushed basalt]

https://c.tenor.com/CIPL0XvgFGgAAAAM/owl-headtilt.gif

https://c.tenor.com/HaCLX5Y9vvIAAAAM/lies-the-simpsons.gif

[dusky plank]

see, german is very polite. just says controllable with ikea stuff. nothing "only"

[glacial knot]

Yea, we have an engineer position. Just tell the truth

Now in cinemas. And on that guy's computer

[clear ferry]

Was ist das, ein subtitle? Ich verstehe nichts

[low harness]

It obviously means it's only controllable by IKEA products. With other ones you can do much more.

[clear ferry]

@last cedar

[dusky plank]

pi be like: kill me please

[glacial knot]

your uptime is weak

[dusky plank]

sunday was backup day 🤓

[clear ferry]

That isn't too bad @dusky plank , I pulled off 18000ish while doing some stress testing a few months ago

Albeit on a dual 8core system

[glacial knot]

do you plug the SD into another system for backups?

@clear ferry what's the highest uptime you got in your basement?

[dusky plank]

mine dont have sd, they are PXE boot

[clear ferry]

Very low, I run Truenas scale and update every 14 days

[dusky plank]

I just tar.gz the whole root and then start them again

[glacial knot]

how often do your test your recovery steps?

[subtle pasture]

I was gonna say, high uptime on individual servers is usually flagged and remediated

[dusky plank]

I just tested it last week, I messed up with a docker update 😄 not regularly unfortunately

[subtle pasture]

We had a nice big wave of uptime tickets generate when CentOS6 support ended