the-water-cooler

[cedar viper]

its really weird because it passed a smart check with no issues this morning

[last cedar]

Smart checks can be absolutely useless tbh, see it more and more often

It isn't outrageous, but still a lot of money!

I would need to get other people onboard too. And make them emojis or such

[glacial knot]

Expensive watches just remind everyone of 20k Rolex, so 1.3k just looks very tame

[last cedar]

Yes

Had visitors this morning

[glacial knot]

Your raccoons have weirdly long necks

[last cedar]

Swedish raccoons

[deft pewter]

Now we know why the meatballs taste funny.

[last cedar]

Yup

[glacial knot]

someone didn't scroll 😂

sometimes I wish discord started fully scrolled when there's more than like 2 screens of content

[warm aurora]

Actually thought the #general-archived is for other stuff but still HA related 🙂

[glacial knot]

Hm? It's other support. Which should still be HA-related

[fathom sparrow]

When in doubt, read the Pins

[glacial knot]

V_CC, GND, DATA, CLK

[fathom sparrow]

other is a catch all

pretty much

[cyan atlas]

holy moly i finally got my tuya switch working on homekit via HA

2 days of attempting to talk to Tuya support because my api account was glitched - well worth it

[deft pewter]

Your best option is to throw anything with a cloud connection in the bin and get locally-controlled devices

[bitter pawn]

or reflash it.

[deft pewter]

But effort...

And I haven't found a way to reflash crappy WiFi devices to use Zigbee.

[bitter pawn]

nods

reflashing is a pita and with chip revisions, might not be able to get all the devices you need for your home / if stuff breaks replacements are not available

i blame that issue on @last cedar for not providing more raccoon gifs.

😛

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/gotcha-bitch-trash-panda-raccoon-feeding-racoon-gif-14184588

Me stealing all your flashed hardware

[deft pewter]

https://twitter.com/whataweekhuh/status/1440630201193431049

What a week, huh? all Wednesdays (@whataweekhuh)

https://t.co/NpY8iYWeo8

Retweets

18121

Likes

74028

Twitter · Sep 22, 2021, 10:53 AM

[static schooner]

and not even a good Wednesday, like next Wednesday

[deft pewter]

What's special about next Wednesday?

[static schooner]

https://developers.home-assistant.io/

[deft pewter]

Ah, gotcha. I don't follow beta closely, I just upgrade occasionally to see what breaks has been added.

[hasty merlin]

I miss forums. Discord is great for real time conversations, but a lot of the topics aren't fast moving ones.

[hushed basalt]

https://c.tenor.com/UttKJzNT7uwAAAAM/funny-very.gif

[pseudo crest]

Or move too fast and get no attention. cries in unsupported router presence detection

[deft pewter]

Well it doesn't help when you ask in the wrong channel 🤷‍♂️ #automations-archived is for... automations.

You know what you're asking is an integration. You even used that word in your question.

[brisk glen]

what if his question is about what question to ask about the question he needs to ask for support

[velvet horizon]

Don't ask to ask, just ask your question. Then people can answer when they're around.

When you do ask a question, try to provide as much background detail as possible. Ask yourself these questions first so that others don't have to:

1. What version of the Home Assistant are you running? (remember, last isn't a version)
2. What exactly are you trying to do that won't work?
3. Is the problem uniform or erratic?
4. What's the exact error message?
5. When did it arise?
6. What exactly don't you "get"?
7. Can you share sample code, ideally with line errors where the error occurs?

Command '.ask' was invoked by: tom l

[young sigil]

That's what.

[summer finch]

Hey Home Assistant peeps, we're working on an integration for Hass right now that will connect Home Assistant lights and smart plugs to Lumia Stream.

This would basically allow people streaming on Twitch, Youtube, and Facebook to have their lights react when things happen in chat. This could be an alert like a subscriber or even just a chat message like !blue

Do we have any volunteers to test out this integration that we'll be releasing in the next few weeks

[clever mortar]

You'd want to ask in the #integrations-archived channel, and maybe also over on the forum

[summer finch]

Okay will do. Thank you!

[deft pewter]

You're saying I can have my lights automatically come on when I get a viewer on my stream?

I can already sit in the dark without that integration.

[summer finch]

😂 😢

[young sigil]

Is this you mono? https://youtu.be/MVklq7yypyQ

[frail yacht]

hi guys. Has anyone tried to control Digital LED strips (RF) with any RF transmiter?

[clever mortar]

Not with Home Assistant, not in this channel

[dusky plank]

got a upgrade for my homelab beast for cheap 🥳

[deft pewter]

Nah. his moustache is better than mine.

[brisk glen]

what will you do with your old box @dusky plank?

[dusky plank]

the m92p tiny will probably be used in a project of a friend.. I have no use for it anymore

[pseudo crest]

Part of the challenge is absolutely learning the correct HA vernacular. And, I think my original problem was multi-faceted. I wasn't at the automation phase because I couldn't get the integration working.

[deft pewter]

Then it's simple. You ask in #integrations-archived

[clever mortar]

And if you're lost/unsure, follow the advice in the topic here and try #general-archived

[pseudo crest]

My original question was in #automations-archived . I was just contributing to the 'forums' discussion

[velvet horizon]

@pseudo crest When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

Command '.reply' was invoked by: mono

[deft pewter]

And I know your original question was there. In the wrong place.

[pseudo crest]

Okay, as long as we are on the same page.

[deft pewter]

You were venting about not getting an answer... to something posted in the wrong place. The fault is yours.

[deft pewter]

🤔

[dusky plank]

anyone ever used intel vpro?

[dusky plank]

nm, figured it out… it‘s neat

[brisk glen]

Pip terminal

When did phones become soo good

[static schooner]

I tried to install Home Assistant in iSH on my iPhone, but ran into dependency issues 😭

[brisk glen]

rip

I love the secureshellfish terminal

[tidal bronze]

Years ago for pip 🤣

Did it just start working on iPhone?

[hushed basalt]

My Microsoft keyboard works fine on a windows laptop but performs like crap on a MacBook

I call shennanigans

Has anyone ever seen good conference room meeting hardware that works with google meet

[true mural]

Ehh I have a question about how to invert an entity/function. Not really sure where it is best suited to ask about

[silent nexus]

Random off-topic question, but do Philips Hue bulbs work well in the Home Assistant ecoystem?

I'm trying to determine which brand of smart bulbs to get, and I want them to work well with HA.

[dusky plank]

this is clearly not a off topic question

[velvet horizon]

The topic of this channel is:

There's no support for Home Assistant here - please look at the other channels for that. If you can't work out which is relevant, start in #general-archived.

If it's a question about the HA Amber see #yellow-archived, and #330990055533576204 for the Blue. Install related problems go to your Installation Method channel.

No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

If you found this server and want to know what it's about, start with the web site: https://www.home-assistant.io/

Remember when reporting spam to include a screenshot of the spam and the user's handle (eg @spammer#123)

Command '.topic' was invoked by: mstone

[silent nexus]

Is it not? I figured it would be since it isn't really a support question.

Just a user opinion.

[dusky plank]

off topic is anything else than HA related

[clever mortar]

#integrations-archived can answer the question

[silent nexus]

I see, thanks for pointing me in the right direction then. Sorry to use the wrong channel.

[bitter pawn]

@silent nexus come back here if you want raccoon gifs

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/guardians-of-the-galaxy-rocket-raccoon-oh-yeah-gun-mad-gif-3613400

[bitter pawn]

https://c.tenor.com/pbs6KZbwpisAAAAC/racoon-shy.gif

[last cedar]

OMG its feet

https://tenor.com/view/xin-cầu-raccoon-please-gif-15175503

[static schooner]

my cat grabs her hind legs to hold them in place to clean her feet, kinda like that 🙂

[last cedar]

Adorable

[dusky plank]

my phone lost all my 2FA codes out of nowhere

anyone know a solution for GAuth?

[clever mortar]

Authy or BitWarden are/have TOTP authenticators that are backed up

I'll never use Google Authenticator again

[static schooner]

I love 1Password

keeps track of TOTP and fills it in for you

[dusky plank]

FFS why does this happen

[clever mortar]

BitWarden does too

[dusky plank]

just as I enter a 6 hour train

[brisk glen]

Lol

I’m going to get off of 1Password, to what tho idk yet

They are ending personal vaults after they said they would not

[clever mortar]

Bitwarden 😉

[last cedar]

Been using google auth for a few years with no issues, but now you have me worried 😦

[deft pewter]

I was about to say the only bad thing about BitWarden is that it doesn't have autofill... then checked the settings and found an option for autofill.

LastPass was great until they got greedy. BitWarden can do everything I needed from LastPass.

[clever mortar]

Yup, switched from LastPass to BitWarden

Been very happy

[deft pewter]

I'm even trying to train the in-laws to use a password manager instead of having a little book of passwords in their desk 😂

[wet pilot]

i tried to do locally hosted bitwarden but for some reason my db would get re-created whenever i tried to update the container 😦

[dusky plank]

then you had the volume mounts wrong?

[deft pewter]

[dusky plank]

recovered all of them except one now, playstation support is a joke in this regard

[dusky plank]

that server upgrade had quite some effect

[clever mortar]

See, you could have done the same with much bigger fans 😛

Sure, you'd have needed some noise cancelling headphones, and probably earplugs, but it'd have been cheaper, maybe

[deft pewter]

But now you're going to have to pay more to heat your house.

[dusky plank]

cheaper? that thing is an i7 6400 with 16g ram and a 512g ssd for 43€... 😄 i will treat it like i did the smaller one 😄

[snow hedge]

If you'd like, I have a nice docker-compose file for vaultwarden

for reference, vaultwarden is an unofficial bitwarden compatible server, it's much more lightweight than the official backend.

[wet pilot]

ah so not image: bitwardenrs/server:latest ?

[snow hedge]

vaultwarden is bitwardenrs, they renamed

[wet pilot]

nah, external db. it just seemed to dump it and re-create every time for some reason

sure, sling me the compose in a PM and i'll take a look

been meaning to get off of lastpass and centralize some passwords

[dusky plank]

https://paste.debian.net/1213147/

[snow hedge]

I am a bit docker obsessed, so I have experience with most self hosted things. Run about 50 or so containers at home 🙂

[hushed basalt]

Tried sous videing vegetables for the first time last night

Wasn't happy with the results. I think I need more practice and research

[green inlet]

Or you could just coat them in a light covering of olive oil and salt and bake them in the oven at 350 until they are Al dente

[hushed basalt]

I think 350 degrees would set my kitchen on fire

[mystic kraken]

I was sending my friend a snap of what home assistant looked like but I wasn't paying attention 😆

[hushed basalt]

DevOps is a very abused term

[young sigil]

Today has been a "King Midas in reverse" day. Everything I've touched has turned to shit.

[hearty depot]

another ESP32 bite the dust.. apperantly the line carryed 24v instead of the 5... that was the other cable 🤣

[molten osprey]

Evening

What’s the best channel to ask about controlling multiple lights at the same time? I have multiple light entities which I’d like to turn on and off and change other settings for at the same time.

[last cedar]

#automations-archived I would thing @molten osprey

Maybe?

Or #general-archived

I have some of those as automations

But you might be wanting to do other stuff :D

[molten osprey]

A pseudo device or something i guess doesn’t exist

I guess I could have 1 entity copy the settings of another.

Thanks … let me try #general-archived first 🙂

Heh. Light groups are a thing. Let’s try that!

[brisk glen]

trying to find a decent cheap used pc for home server use

Dell Optiplex 3040 MT CORE i5 6500 $175.00 might be a good pi replacement

[last cedar]

Should be sweet @brisk glen

[hushed basalt]

Optiplexes are good

SFF used desktop pcs are wayyyyy better than rpis

[last cedar]

Raccoons are better than optiplexes though

[hushed basalt]

Better at hoarding doormats sure

[last cedar]

Yes

[brisk glen]

https://houston.craigslist.org/sys/d/katy-80-server-racks-hp-server-cabinet/7373929164.html

oh god

my wife is going to kill me

[deft pewter]

So how many lots of 80 bucks are you about to spend?

[brisk glen]

its more about the space

[deft pewter]

Space is overrated.

[last cedar]

This

[fallow fox]

Looking for help. I want to build a super simple website, displaying a grid of snapshots from some camera feeds we have access to. There are some limitations, I cannot run php or anything other than html / css. And I do not have any experience building websites. Is there a editor/generator of some kind that could hold my hand in the process?

[deft pewter]

Why those limitations?

[fallow fox]

It is hosted on a network share on our intranet and then there is some sort of reverse proxy pointing browsers to that share from a url. I don't control the backend...

[deft pewter]

Why must you use that backend?

[fallow fox]

Security. The camera feeds I need to display are password protected, and I cannot host those outside the organization.

[deft pewter]

That just means the feeds have to come from there, not that whatever page you build also has to.

[fallow fox]

Please enlighten me... 🙂

[deft pewter]

You know how there are millions of websites? They don't all run on the same server.

[fallow fox]

But... In order for the website to access the feeds and display them, wouldnt the password (embedded in URL) also need to be hosted wherever the website is being hosted?

[deft pewter]

Passwords aren't 'hosted' anywhere. They're just strings.

[fallow fox]

OK

[deft pewter]

Also, I really hope you have something more secure than passwords in URL's to protect video streams.

[fallow fox]

Nope...

The cameras aren't ours... We have no impact on the decisions

[deft pewter]

Gimme a minute to dig something out. It's not simple but it's an idea of best practise for this kind of thing.

[clever mortar]

Well, hopefully the cameras use SSL

[fallow fox]

Actually....

About half of them! 😄

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/absolutelyepic-epic-taylor-swift-gif-4726224

[fallow fox]

The feeds themselves are dead simple RTMP-streams...

[deft pewter]

Here we go... and don't say I didn't warn you it's not simple: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/media/creating-a-secure-video-on-demand-vod-platform-using-aws/

[clever mortar]

Waiting to hear that some of them are used for viewing RSA tokens

[fallow fox]

I think I may have given you the wrong scale of importance on this... The website in question would be presented to colleagues as a simple overview of the available feeds. Hopefully snapshots with 1s intervals or something...

[deft pewter]

Presented to colleagues... until the URL leaks and anyone in the world can watch because you embedded the passwords to the feeds in the page.

Never underestimate the importance of access control.

[fallow fox]

The url is not accessible outisde our intranet

[clever mortar]

That's something 😄

[deft pewter]

Well that would've been good to know.

[fallow fox]

Yeah... Sorry! 😕

[deft pewter]

Easiest option then... HTML page with a bunch of iframes.

[fallow fox]

I'll be AFK for 30 minues while driving home, but I'd love to be corrected further on security then! 🙂
Is there an editor of some kind that would fit the bill?

[deft pewter]

vi works pretty well for almost everything.

[clever mortar]

nano if you're desperate

[deft pewter]

Comes preinstalled on all good operating systems.

[deft pewter]

I'll only accept use of nano if the command is first aliased to vi.

[fallow fox]

Nothing visual?

[deft pewter]

You have a web browser to see the end result.

[clever mortar]

I'm too many years away from web dev to know what pretty UI editors exist - I mostly used vi

[deft pewter]

Web dev usually goes something along the lines of:

• 10 start web server
• 20 point browser at web server
• 30 change files
• 40 refresh page in browser
• GOTO 30

[clever mortar]

Somewhere in there there's a lot of coffee, and swearing

[deft pewter]

The missing escape clause is deliberate... websites are never finished.

[vast tusk]

And then you realize you've been editing the wrong file and that's why your changes don't show up.

Been there, done that, didn't even get the darn t-shirt.

[fallow fox]

Hehe… OK. I see where this heading! ☺️

Thanks guys, at least I can stop looking for the wrong things now!

[low harness]

WhyTF would a screen give priority to a HDMI signal over DisplayPort?

[left solstice]

Hi all, I love Paul Hibbert on youtube but I feel I've now outgrown him. I'm more interested in products that can more directly/smoothly connect to HA. Is there a youtube channel which for example reviews a product, and explains how easy/challenging it was to integrate into HA, and how much BS went along with it?

[deft pewter]

Hi all, I love Paul Hibbert on youtube but I feel I've now outgrown him
I too got older and outgrew juvenile humour.

[last cedar]

I haven't grown out of juvenile humour yet

[deft pewter]

🍆

[left solstice]

yea jokes aside, he doesnt seem bothered about HA

[deft pewter]

As much as it pains me to do this, I'm going to suggest LinusTechTips... though he focuses way too much on the 'how much BS went along with it' and way too little on the positives.

[left solstice]

i guess some 3rd party apps are needed - eg a vacuum cleaner would need to show funky maps and stuff. I want someone who can help guide me around the BS factor I'm experiencing with iot products

i watch LTT but havent seen much iot at the level I want. I guess i'm looking for someone half way inbetween drzz and hibbert

[deft pewter]

If you have specific questions, the various support channels can try to answer. I don't know of a catch-all source that has everything you might want to know.

[young sigil]

The Hookup, digiblurDIY, Everything Smart Home, TechTechMoreTech, DrZzs.

[brisk glen]

Microsoft code

Hands down, you can live debug your web apps

[hybrid obsidian]

export EDITOR=nano

[low harness]

Courtesy of vim wizard Tim Pope https://twitter.com/tpope/status/1172743697315835904

[deft pewter]

If it's just HTML, there's nothing to debug.

[fallow fox]

But, VSCode will give you highlighting!

[deft pewter]

So can vim 🤷‍♂️

[cedar chasm]

If the editor wars run out of steam, I still use Watchtower...
Could be good for a couple of barbs

[crisp sapphire]

what about VSCode with the Vim extension?

[cedar chasm]

That comes in real handy for setting up Watchtower

[left solstice]

thanks @young sigil i've subbed to them all, seem good!

@deft pewter the operative word there might be "can"

[deft pewter]

Yes...? 🤔

VS Code 'can' do syntax highlighting.

[left solstice]

sorry text lost the tonality there. Vi is awesome.

[static schooner]

Good thing that’s settled and will never need to be discussed ever again 🙂

[cedar chasm]

Surely there are more nuances to be exposed

[glacial knot]

no the question is
awesome or i3wm? 🙂

[low harness]

I havent looked into any watchtower debates, but I can see how them could be fighting words...

[cedar chasm]

Basically: "To auto-update or not to auto-update, that is the question"

but with more aspersions cast on ones nerd-cred

[clever mortar]

FTFY:

To auto-break or not to auto-break, that is the question

[low harness]

I've been looking for something that shows available updates but don't pull them.

[clever mortar]

I think it can do that

[low harness]

*doesn't

[cedar chasm]

I just let it break stuff willy-nilly

because I hate life

[low harness]

I can respect that.

[peak mountain]

If anyone is interested, better discord has a plugin for disabling reply pings

Along with Aluicord for android

[deft pewter]

Some of us just disable the ping each time to avoid annoying people

Also, obligatory "don't run random scripts on Discord if you don't know what they do" warning.

[cedar chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ping-pong-table-tennis-gif-14057941

[hushed basalt]

I think if discord pings annoy you , you should just mute your notifications

I find reply notifications very useful

Why would you have audible notifications for a gamer chat app anyways

[peak mountain]

Betterdiscord + Alluicord are both open source and well known to be safe and reputable. Same with the noreplymention scripts.

That's what I like about open source software, you can verify that it's safe to use, instead of worrying about why your computer is slowing down after installing some closed-source piece of garbage

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze found your house your moving into when you move to vegas lol https://youtu.be/Us8mDKUaX2M

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge Is that house or an airport lobby ?

No amount of money can fix bad taste 🤣

[hushed basalt]

Cast iron is such a poor conductor :(

[last cedar]

Good to know 🦝

[hushed basalt]

See how would I know you replied to me otherwise

But I don't get a bzzt bzzt

Just a notification bar icon I can ignore

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/internal-screaming-robert-downey-jr-rdj-avengers-the-avengers-gif-10172248

Your poor cast iron. Don't post that on the cast iron reddit unless you want lots of advice about avoiding that in the future 😄

[young sigil]

You aren't supposed to boil water in cast iron?

[low harness]

I think he's talking about the edge of the pot not having "seasoning".

[clever mortar]

You'll also probably catch hell for mentioning that it's not a good conductor - 'cos that's pretty well know 😄

[low harness]

We use cast iron in some stuff at work because it's a good conductor...

...compared to polyurethane foam...

It's a bit heavier too, though.

[dusky plank]

what makes windows not find a host for a particular subdomain?
eg it finds xyz.aaa.com but not zyx.aaa.com

I only know the hosts file which can do this but there is nothing in there… booting to linux on the same host and everything works

[clever mortar]

I'd bet on a cached negative DNS query

Flush the DNS cache

/ipconfig flushdns is one way, I'm sure there's more

[dusky plank]

does not work :/

[light trout]

ipconfig /flushdns

[dusky plank]

figured that, no change…

[light trout]

Complain to the network admin for your network

[clever mortar]

Clearly I need more coffee

Have you checked to see if you get a DNS resolution if you do it manually?

[light trout]

nslookup zyx.aaa.com

[dusky plank]

no entries (a+aaaa) found for this domain

makes no sense to me

[clever mortar]

Now try another DNS server

[light trout]

Your windows and linux host probably uses different DNS servers

and the query can be cached on the server

[dusky plank]

they all use the internal net dns served by adguard… no other host has this problem

[light trout]

You sure about that?

[dusky plank]

yes, I do not set any explicit dns settings/servers

[light trout]

Complain to the network admin for your network

[dusky plank]

complains to myself

[vast tusk]

That's one of the most irritating error messages you can get tbh

"Pleas ask your administrator for help"

BITCH, I AM THE ADMINISTRATOR

[hushed basalt]

Photo makes the edge look worse than real life

But reality is I'm not precious about the outside

My cooking surface is seasoned well

It's like the difference between keeping your knifes sharp enough to be safe and efficient

And being a guy who has $4000 of various sharping jigs, stones, polishes,

[clever mortar]

Yeah, I've got a few cast iron pizza plates, and they're not pretty, but they're well seasoned and work just fine

[hushed basalt]

I want to get one of those good steel plates for cooking

[last cedar]

If only you knew an expert at stealing things

With thumbs and a bushy tail

[low harness]

A crane happened to drive by our house, and now the flag pole line is back after two years on the ground!!!

[dull chasm]

@low harness send them my way i need three put up

[last cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/pwdoo4/the_audacity_of_this_bird/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[last cedar]

Sweeeeeeeeeet!

[hearty depot]

Uuuuff
799 for a crypled monitor.. I want it "Boox's E-Ink External Monitor for Laptops Available, 25-Incher Incoming | Tom's Hardware" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/boox-launches-e-ink-external-monitor-for-laptops

[deft pewter]

What's the FPS like on it? Isn't e ink really slow?

[clever mortar]

For $800 I can get a decent 4K display

[deft pewter]

YEah, this feels like it should be a couple hundred. It's a glorified Kindle.

Their product pages claims high refresh rate but there's no mention of the actual Hz, only a warning that high refresh rates will result in ghosting. Great marketing...

[glacial knot]

but that won't be 15 shades of gray

High refresh on e-ink is probably 20 to 30Hz

[deft pewter]

And then how much lower will you need to go to avoid the ghosting they're openly admitting to?

[clever mortar]

One 😛

[glacial knot]

which looks vastly better than LCD 20-30Hz. But not exactly usable for video playback

even if you somehow happen to have videos that are suited for the other restrictions of that device

[deft pewter]

I'd guess most heavy users are also pretty good typists... I'd hate to see several characters appear at a time with a crappy refresh. So offputting to not have immediate feedback.

[glacial knot]

have you ever used the officee65 suite?

[deft pewter]

Unfortunately 😂 But I don't experience lag with them.

[strange crag]

Back in the old days I could type a whole line of text before getting any feedback - on a printing terminal!! lol

[glacial knot]

Might have been the offline variant?
They have a "feature" to sorta blend in the latest letter. Which looks super odd, when it's slower than typing speed
Because it just kinda popped to full opacity when the next one came in

And then for a while, it just delayed the next ones
I just got mad at word for a while

[glacial knot]

working with mosh on a shoddy wifi is fun 🙂

[strange crag]

lol

[low harness]

@glacial knot That can be turned off. Let me see if I can find the instructions.

File->Options->Ease of Access->Provide feedback with animation
I think that's the one.

It will turn off that weird gliding thing the position marker in Excel does too.

[last cedar]

Black and white is slow, like maybe 0,5fps?

And colour was worse afaik

[deft pewter]

That's okay. The human eye can't see more than that anyway. I don't care what the pro gamers claim

[low harness]

My kindle got slow as molasses when the temperature went below freezing.

Some days switching the page could take like 40 seconds.

[hushed basalt]

https://c.tenor.com/x_tJ_gbHgEEAAAAM/anna-frozen.gif

[vast tusk]

My air purifier disagreed with my cooking lol

[orchid rose]

Does the number 150 mean it went all the way to eleven or what am I looking at here?

[deft pewter]

No, it's in base 60.

Apparently that's 3900 in base 10.

[cedar chasm]

for the #the-water-cooler record: pxe booting pi's off a network share blew my mind for wattevarr underinformed reasons

[dusky plank]

its great. pi needs less power and corruption is a non issue

[eternal thistle]

but everything is dead if your nas fails

[cedar chasm]

such is the transitory nature of things

[dusky plank]

you might have issues with your nas. but that is usually a bigger problem to solve

[cedar chasm]

I have one Pi that is a good usecase, and the other is my DHCP-server, so I suspect potential for some chicken and egg conundrums

Anyways anything that adds a few extra layers of convolution needs to be explored

[deft pewter]

Ahh, that's better.

To whoever finally granted my request, thank you.

[cedar chasm]

happy mono, happy life

[deft pewter]

Yeah, I'm much happier in bullshit-free channels.

I'm only disappointed I can't use custom emotes now 😂

[cedar chasm]

or rather focusing bullshit into one channel, spanning pxe to raccoon gifs

[deft pewter]

Nah, this channel's chill. Raccoons are 🔥

[static schooner]

I didn't know that was role-related

[deft pewter]

Nor did I until just now.

[cedar chasm]

faiyah

[subtle pasture]

What changed? Did someone hide all channels except #the-water-cooler from mono? lol

https://tenor.com/view/feed-us-please-hungry-babies-gif-15322957

Welcome to the racoon zone

[cedar chasm]

yaiiyy

life is better with that gif

unless some horrific training method was used

[deft pewter]

I'm only down one channel, thank you 😂

[static schooner]

I can make a mono-only channel to replace it if you like

[glacial knot]

do it

[deft pewter]

Nah, I'm good. I get enough stick for having opinions, I wouldn't dare have them in another channel.

[static schooner]

like a fishbowl - everyone can watch, but only mono can post

[subtle pasture]

I've actually seen a few servers with channels like that

[static schooner]

Snarky Thoughts by mono

[cedar chasm]

Garfield without Garfield vibes

[vast tusk]

It's the pm2.5 in micrograms per m3 of air.

[deft pewter]

What do you reckon the reading would be if you ran a pickup truck in there?

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze you should come over in your buisness suit and work on my lawnmower. i can supervise from a chair with an ice tea

[static schooner]

as much as I think all the folks trying to use k8s for HA are kinda silly, I do kinda want a kubelet just because it's a cute name

[cedar chasm]

tried googling k8s... looks like trouble to me

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge as long as you got good music playing why not

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzenot sure the neighbors will agree with your taste but I suppose you could play vanilla ice at a low level. https://youtu.be/rog8ou-ZepE

[orchid rose]

banger

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge that track got sub bass, don't tell me you got landscape subwoofers that hits below 30 Hertz 🤣

[forest edge]

normal people just buy headphones and not deal with landscape audio lol

[static schooner]

all my audio is in portrait mode

[tidal bronze]

Headphones only for in-flight use nothing else.

[brisk glen]

Use open back Grado

Totally worth the experience of letting your partner hear everything

[forest edge]

cogneato went into hangouts just as that dude stopped streaming p0rn

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge I wish you suggested something like

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/mexican-kid-cool-gif-5322565

[bitter pawn]

https://youtu.be/wNTGYSG-SFk @deft pewter

[cedar chasm]

Gianni Matragrano sounds like a composer's name so I was a bit let down that this wasn't an orchestral score with several movements.

Isn't that what raccoons deserve?

[midnight adder]

You may be looking at it from the wrong perspective.

It's not "should I set up k8s [specifically] to run Home Assistant?", it's "why do I need another container orchestrator - and OS for that to sit on, and virtual/physical hardware for that to sit on - to run Home Assistant when I already have this perfectly good k8s cluster right here (running my other dozen-and-a-half-or-so self-hosted home-and-office applications)?"

Sure, I could go dig up some spare hardware or dedicate a VM somewhere for it if I had a real liking for retrograde steps, but why would I?

[snow hedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/494503700287455232/892316436083646514/2021-09-28-084638_756x1061_escrotum.png

Spiders ruining my day, frigate needs a spider web classifier 😂

[deft pewter]

Best news I've seen all week: https://www.engadget.com/babylon-5-reboot-the-cw-193805568.html

[cedar chasm]

Noise, just hoping it doesn't get the full Wormhole X-Treme revamp treatment

[deft pewter]

Wrong universe 🤔

That episode was good though.

Hasn't there been recent talk of them making another SG?

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/stargate-reboot-cast-2.html

Not sure I'm convinced about the reboot part. A continuation would've been better.

[hoary canyon]

YIO is on Kickstarter now

[deft pewter]

What is that and why do we care? 🤔

Oh, another universal remote...

And for a bargain 339 Euros 😂

[cedar chasm]

I see it as cautionary tale for all universes, but I'll be watching both these reboots even if the tone is closer to Degrassi Junior High than 2001 Space Odyssey

As it happens; I'm ripping my ol' SG-Atlantis-DVDs as we speak to dump it all on my Plex-setup

living high on nostalgia-gasses

[fathom sparrow]

because harmony suuuuuucks and discontinued and there's a hole in the market ATM

339 ain't bad when compared to harmony

All I ask for is a remote that doesn't use IR for everything

[ebon torrent]

Is there a roadmap, or some board where one can see what new integrations are currently being developed? I just wired my house with Broadlink TC3 smart switches only to find out they're unsupported and that there's no plans to add support for them 🤦‍♂️

[fathom sparrow]

no, integrations are pretty much added by volunteers

only large integrations are planned out by the main dev team.

[ebon torrent]

What does it take to add a new integration? I tried to find in the docs but got a little lost.

[fathom sparrow]

You'd have to learn the HA api, follow the dev docs, and add it using python, and submit a PR.

This of course is only possible if a python library exists for what you want to integrate

if it doesn't exist, then you need to create that as well

If you're a beginner, I would expect 6+ months

[ebon torrent]

I'm a programmer but this is way off my field, so yeah 6 months sound about right.
Thanks, I'll just wait & pray I guess.

[fathom sparrow]

good luck, not sure it will ever get done

finding info on the protocol is turning up nothing

[orchid rose]

that remote looks sexy, but it's 10x the price I paid for my Harmony 650 😬

and it has too few buttons

[brisk glen]

@midnight adder k8s ha config?

[deft pewter]

I wouldn't mind a decent, affordable universal remote. But when they're asking for half what my mobile phone cost, I'll just use that as my universal remote.

[fathom sparrow]

Ya the only problem with that is people that don’t have the app

Only reason I have the remote tbh

[young sigil]

And it's funded. Lots of people feel differently.

[wet pilot]

honestly, with how decent CEC is these days, i don't find myself needing anything more than the tv's included remote

[young sigil]

I was going to ask if your remote can control your lights. But then remembered which server I'm on. You probably have a movie scene automated.

[dusky plank]

why exactly is trustarc taking a whopping minute to save cookie preferences? I don't get it...

[fathom sparrow]

Look at what they are doing in dev tools

[night zodiac]

you're used to store bought cookies and theirs are homemade

[deft pewter]

https://twitter.com/pixelscript/status/1436664488913215490?lang=en

Chris Corbett (@pixelscript)

Hey @StarbucksUK and @TrustArc if you get rid of the unnecessary timeouts there won't be any need for this processing "status". This only happens when you customise your privacy settings, can you explain that?

Funny how some dark patterns are just accepted.

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Twitter · Sep 11, 2021, 12:14 PM

Breaches GDPR too: https://twitter.com/the_spad/status/1436992956196601859

Adam (@the_spad)

@pixelscript @darkpatterns @StarbucksUK @TrustArc To be specific on that claim https://t.co/ktXcdMpzYZ

"The data subject must also be informed about his or her right to withdraw consent anytime. The withdrawal must be as easy as giving consent."

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Twitter · Sep 12, 2021, 9:59 AM

[ebon heath]

Anyone have a wifi mesh system that they like? I got a few second hand Google Wifi units but i dont like that they can't work in AP mode w/ a proper router, and you can only manage their router capability from within the google home app

[deft pewter]

The cool kids around here seem to go for Unifi AP's. Meshes aren't that popular.

[ebon heath]

hmm

i dont care about mesh vs whatever, i just dont want to run ethernet all over my house to extend wifi coverage

[dusky plank]

comments on Homey Advertisements are kind of fun,

„Is your home smart? Think again.“

[static schooner]

Whoa, thanks for posting - hadn't seen this. Having just rewatched the whole thing, seasons 2-4 were pretty great. And I'm sure that s5 would have been better without the will-they/won't-they nonsense

[cedar chasm]

It will be very interesting to see what they do with 20 or so years of TV story-telling evolution.

[static schooner]

so many of the original cast are gone

[cedar chasm]

Yeah, I don't even know if I want to see a recast Mollari etc

[static schooner]

he's still alive

G'kar is dead, though

and he was awesome

[cedar chasm]

It's good Mollari is alive, but he might not be up for a regular cast job

[static schooner]

it was just amusing/morbid that the article says

[cedar chasm]

G'kar will be missed

[static schooner]

None of the original actors from the series, including Bruce Boxleitner, are currently attached to the project, but that may change.

[cedar chasm]

for sure

[static schooner]

because many are...uh...dead

a surprising number

[cedar chasm]

20 years is a long time

and many of them have been gone for many years,

Andreas Katsalus (G'kar) passed on just a few years after, I believe

[static schooner]

right

[cedar chasm]

He was good as that recurring Romulan character on Star Trek Next G as well

[static schooner]

this always sticks in my head by Season 3:

"The Babylon Project was our last, best hope for peace. It failed. But, in the Year of the Shadow War, it became something greater: our last, best hope... for victory. The year is 2260. The place: Babylon 5."

"it failed"

[cedar chasm]

Fiction needs to be more clear about failure being quite common

B5 was a pioneer

[static schooner]

I also rewatched DS9, and I think it was the better series overall. It had some Ferengi nonsense that I could have done without, but it was more even, and ran at the same time

both were ahead of their time

anyway, hopefully the B5 reboot doesn't tarnish the memory

[cedar chasm]

meh, after having to process all the various Star Wars offerings, I've learned to appreciate media for the moment in time they inhabit

new entries in franchises can't take the memories away

Which is not to say that I'm not cautiously excited

[static schooner]

JMS won't want to mess it up, so I feel better as long as he's attached

[cedar chasm]

Hmm, he did Sense8; I should finally watch that to try to gauge how he has developed stylistically

[static schooner]

I couldn’t make it through it - got bored

Didn’t know that was him

[cedar chasm]

he has 24 eps with "created by" credits on IMDB

I was surprised too

Him and the Wachowski sisters

Oh, so it's going to be Matrixy; might not be representative then

[low harness]

The Mako smell is pretty bad here.

Wark?
Warkwark wark?
👉 Wark
Warrrrk

#the-water-cooler message
#the-water-cooler message
#the-water-cooler message
#the-water-cooler message
#the-water-cooler message
#the-water-cooler message
#the-water-cooler message
#the-water-cooler message
#the-water-cooler message
#the-water-cooler message

Finally done!

[glacial knot]

looks cool. Are they printed or origami?

hm, raws look more like you cut them from something?

[low harness]

Printed and painted

[last cedar]

SICK

Reminds me of these....

@low harness

Red XIII was amazing

[sharp path]

Anyone know if a good place to discuss reverse engineering hardware for use with HA?

[static schooner]

Probably #diy-archived

[forest edge]

Pretty sure this isn't the first time that company has had a remote on kickstarter or the like. If memory serves me right the first one turned out to be shit from some of the stuff I had read.

[dusky plank]

anybody have a script to bruteforce a telnet prompt?

[dusky plank]

apparently hydra is the answer to that

[cedar chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/hail-hydra-elmo-carry-gif-15402763

[tulip laurel]

Hey everyone! I just started a new Reddit, Home Assistant Gear that I'm just trying to get off the ground. Basically a place to ask questions or gather recommendations for the next device you're looking to purchase. If anyone sees this and is interested in helping it grow please don't hesitate to join the subreddit and make a post or comment. Cheers!

[light trout]

Don't really see the need for a separate place for it, but then again I'm not really using reddit 🤷‍♂️

[dusky plank]

https://www.saynotosmokedetectors.com/

[pure tundra]

"2 out of every 5 DEATHS due to fires happen in home WITH A SMOKE DETECTOR!" this is some top quality spin

[last cedar]

Technically the truth

Did you know that everyone who has died, has also breathed at somepoint

Maybe breathig causes death

[clever mortar]

100% of all people who've consumed dihydrogen monoxide have died

[dusky plank]

yeah that air stuff causes to oxidize your lungs. stahp it.

[hushed basalt]

Almost. You probably meant to say 100% of all people who have died consumed dihydrogen monoxide

[forest edge]

@hushed basaltbeen watching a lot of those plumber videos. crazy the amount of them that are australia. I like that idea of a "boundary trap" you guys use between properties although I would imagine those would require the homeowner to have to pay to clean them out fairly often

[brisk fox]

Car alarms stop car thefts too.

[vast tusk]

That is hilarious

[strange crag]

The thing I liked about b5 was there was so many story threads going at once. Things were always interesting. Doubt that will be the case with a reboot.

What I do find annoying as hell is the mentality of the producers or whoever, that decide to do another reboot when there's so many good stories out there in books that could easily become the next big thing. But of course they reboot something that has proven itself in the ratings, and then they stuff it up.

[clever mortar]

#integrations-archived can help with integration questions, or #general-archived if you're lost

[brisk glen]

Who here uses kube and where did you start?

I’m done with the swarm limitations that require you to run docker in docker to work around

[hushed basalt]

What's your use case

[hearty trellis]

Is it only me refreshing the latest-release page on the rc-subdomain regularly since yesterday evening waiting for the next HA beta release notes scheduled for yesterday? Feeling very addicted 🤪

[clever mortar]

#beta 😛

[hearty trellis]

Ok, this channel was way too obvious to look into 🤷🏼‍♂️

[swift quest]

ok, great

[fallow karma]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/678287857613537296/893101500669247559/243322516_6510466655637774_8174678487666709486_n.png

[late gate]

I thrown out my rgb mechanical keyboard and bought a mx3 keyboard and mouse. So much nicer for programming

[uncut schooner]

The Moon entity would never have a primary moon phase state. So the state of the moon would go from Waxing gibbous directly to Waning gibbous, without being Full Moon in between.
Now the Moon entity will correctly have the primary moon phases.
AH, finally we're getting important stuff, it was unusable before HA 2021.10 🙂

[low harness]

I don't get the MX keyboard. How can it be that good with so little travel?

This is so spot on.

[late gate]

I actually like the short travel and comfort. I guess its up to personal preference

[low harness]

I usually don't. But on this thing it's great.

[brisk glen]

Welcome to the short travel keyboard club

[late gate]

I just wish the cable could be used to hardwire it not just charge

[brisk glen]

Apple magic keyboard

[last cedar]

|| mx browns on a gaming keyboard ||

[late gate]

I use mx for mmorpg gaming t

I used apple keyboard before on windows as it was a very good programming keyboard, but the mx is quite similar and is very cross platform

[subtle pasture]

Was half expecting the second picture to just be of a crater full of smashed electronics on Mars

[hushed basalt]

I need a keyboard

Something split

Moonlanders are crazy expensive though

[subtle pasture]

$125,000,000 (or $205,000,000 if you adjust for inflation) spacecraft lost, because Lockheed Martin had sent critical acceleration data over to NASA and JPL in imperial units, and nobody caught that it needed to be converted to metric...

[hushed basalt]

These ultra high tech companies are often very primitive in their processes

Lots of excel and csvs over email

[strange crag]

Well that was an expensive wakeup call for the yanks to convert completely to metric 😉

Although it is strange that the techs dont already work in the metric system and only use the imperial system outside of work.

[wet pilot]

most everything scientific is in metric these days

i think the military uses it in a bunch of places too

kinda odd that aviation still uses Knots

[bitter pawn]

or maybe that nasa and JPL need to go imperial.

[strange crag]

Imperial is the OLD way of doing things lol. They need to keep up with the rest of the world 😉

[strange crag]

Most? I think all scientific stuff is in metric - or at least is published in metric. Doing conversions just seems silly cos you would end up with fractions of millimetres, litres etc

[glacial knot]

we should coax americans into using the imperibyte. It's 768 bytes

[last cedar]

Raccoons only work in metric

[bitter pawn]

naw. raccoons have freedom

they work in freedom units

[last cedar]

Freedom until you get stuck

[bitter pawn]

in a doggy door?

[last cedar]

Then they work in metric

Or container

[bitter pawn]

i can conceed to that.

[last cedar]

Or if the ground eats you

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-fat-racoon-stuck-trying-to-fit-not-fitting-gif-15009334

It went in imperial

And came out metric

[bitter pawn]

its been a while

since i checked out abandonware websites

i did not know american mcgee's alice is abandonware

[forest edge]

Discord is really pushing Nitro lately. That usually means the client is about to go to shit for anyone who dosen't fork out lol

[static schooner]

I decided to pay for the "classic" version and I'm still regularly hammered for not doing enough 🙂

[glacial knot]

are they? I don't see any nitro ads o.0
Maybe you shouldn't have ever let them know, that you'll pay them if they annoy you enough

[hushed basalt]

:D

[static schooner]

I've been logging in and out on different machines lately, so I'm getting the same nag screen over and over. I don't get as much if I stay logged in

"you're giving us some money, but look how much more you could be handing out for a bunch of unnecessary things!"

[strange crag]

you like raccoons? here is my version of them.

lol

[hushed basalt]

https://c.tenor.com/d7qWx1EMj9MAAAAM/koala-finalform.gif

[strange crag]

yeah - they grow up to be this big!

[rustic crane]

Why do I care about lighting automation so much

It's honestly become an obsession

[steel flame]

We had so much fun with the expired LetsEncrypt certificate tonight 😦

https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/30/lets_encrypt_xero_slack_outages/

[steel flame]

Well I didn't even start with that 🙂 I have multiple sensors prepared PIR + Lux / cell phones via BT / GPS to detect "presence" - but I didn't have a good idea (yet) what I want to automate.

The "when I come home after the sun is down, and I am 5min from my house - turn on the light" might be a cool idea.

[normal adder]

this moment, when you accidently turn of a remote power switch with lovelace but the switch powers home assistant os. 😄

[tiny mesa]

Dis!!! Anyone seen this before ? I just ordered one and it has open api!! https://hdfury.com/product/4k-diva-18gbps/

[vagrant plaza]

Hey there!
Where can I ask about thermostats ?

[clever mortar]

#integrations-archived for connecting them to HA

#hardware-archived for thermostats themselves

And generally the channel topics will guide you

[vagrant plaza]

Thanks !

[glacial knot]

is that a capture card? I''m confused

[dusky plank]

seems to be a hdmi splitter? with hyperion integrated of some sort?

[fallow glen]

Is it just me, or every time you Balena Etcher, do you think of b'elanna torres? It's probably just me with some strange SciFi crush....

[dusky plank]

yes, it‘s just you

dd ftw

[cedar chasm]

I will now, thanks

[fallow glen]

Hehe. Was just wondering if I was alone in this! 🙂 Hope everyone's well!

[fallow glen]

Bloody hell! 🙂

That's dedication for you!

[low harness]

That's by far the best thing I've seen all week. And I went to a previewing of No Time to Die.

[azure moth]

Hey, you guys ever heard of this thing called "YAML" before? https://yaml.com/blog/2021-10/new-yaml-spec/ Apparently there's some changes.

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-lmao-george-of-the-jungle-hehe-bahaha-gif-20771515

[low harness]

I expect zero changes in the tiny subset of yaml functionality that hass uses.

[clever mortar]

Wasn't the move to 1.2 pretty recent anyway

[glacial knot]

.s/hass/has/ 🙂

[low harness]

sure, that too

Also; *slow clap

[strange crag]

Too much bloody effort for me but I love it!! Well done!

[brisk glen]

12 years till the adoption of said new changes

[vast tusk]

how do you make that work at all?

[tiny mesa]

No it is a hdmi switch and it can drive two displays has earc 4K Dolby everything and…… led light that match the tv!

[glacial knot]

I have no idea what I'd need that for tbh.

[dusky plank]

especially for that price 😄

[hushed basalt]

Whelp my washing machine died

Do you think I should get a wifi enabled one

Or is that just dumb

[glacial canyon]

Can you parse a MQTT payload like this in HA?
6,6,1024,0,1,2,32,0,0,1,1,4,10,4,101

So all posted to the same topic and delimited by a comma without telling what value is from what element/variable.

Or does the device need to post it like: bla,6,blabla,6,cal,1024 and so on

[static schooner]

with a #templates-archived , sure

it just depends on what you want to do with it

[glacial canyon]

read and write settings

min current, maxcurrent, mode, lock, rfid on off and so on

would like a lovelace panel where you can set stuff and then write it back

ofcourse you can make a topic per value, but that would generate a lot of serial traffic on the PIC MCU

I have a ESP32 reading and writing serial commands to this PIC mcu

[static schooner]

#templates-archived with an MQTT sensor would be the way

[glacial canyon]

ok thanks, will have a look into it

[jade tartan]

getting my 1st set of esp boards tomorrow if tracking is correct

[last dirge]

I remember my first time

[jade tartan]

was it messy?

i expect this to be messy

[last dirge]

be careful

is that an E36 in your avatar?

[jade tartan]

yes but not mine, mine are much shittyer

[last dirge]

haha

[jade tartan]

mid engine swap atm

[last dirge]

I miss mine but not what it cost

[jade tartan]

hear you, but still cheap compared to new cars imo

[jade tartan]

yours was much nicer then mine are

[last dirge]

it had every single common M3 problem

RTABS, shock towers, oil pump nut

I ditched it before I had to worry about the subframe mounts

[jade tartan]

i ripped out my front subframe doing a burn out

fun times

[last dirge]

damn I miss that car

[jade tartan]

i have 2 coupes, trying to make 1 coupe

lol

both 94 325is

[last dirge]

vaders or nah?

oh, not even a M

weak!

[jade tartan]

pffffft

boosts m50 and makes 400hp

the US spec s50 was not worth the m tax

in any way

my buddy has 10k into his rebuild of his s50 and im like for what, less then 350 hp?

[last dirge]

mine was a hybrid 50/52

[jade tartan]

when i can ebay slap an m50 and make 400hp in a day

and when it blows, junkyard m50's all day

or LS

[last dirge]

engines are for suckers

[jade tartan]

turbines

lets do it

[last dirge]

transmissions are also for suckers

[jade tartan]

but, i like feels, i dont want an rc car

[last dirge]

that final drive life

[jade tartan]

unless you got luda mode, i think my bike still wins

how fast can teslas go?

like top speed wise

[last dirge]

125ish

on factory software

[jade tartan]

imma look up the fastest one

[last dirge]

they just set another ring record with a model S

[jade tartan]

so like, have people hacked them to get rid of the stupid mothership having total control?

[last dirge]

probably but I'm not really interested in that

[jade tartan]

eh i hate the whole idea that as a society we now find passive Orwellian surveillance to be acceptable for convenience sake

[last dirge]

there's a gigantic list of shit that's way higher on the list of "I hate the idea that" before we get to my car sending telemetry data somewhere

[jade tartan]

well duh, but it's not just that, it's something you own, that you dont have control of, it's a license almost

like i dont have features built into my car, held back because of a paywall, thats hyper dumb

[last dirge]

I have a bunch of features on my car that I didn't have when I bought it

so, that goes both ways

[jade tartan]

so your saying you broke what ever rule im sure there is about modifying to bypass some paywall?

piracy how dare you sir, you wouldnt download a car......

fucking eh i would totally download a car

[last dirge]

no, Tesla gave them away

dash cam, sentry mode, whole bunch of entertainment options, whole bunch of audio options

and the stuff that was there when I bought the car has improved

[jade tartan]

eh, i like my 90's cars, im an obd1 or carbs kinda guy

[cedar chasm]

I like the idea of having household appliances present in HA, if not to necessarily control, at least to check if they're running.
In my case I have settled for a smart plug, though. Gives me the wattage and from that I determine it's running.
Might very well go wifi if current one dies

[hushed basalt]

I bought some smart plugs but never got around to getting them configured

[dusky plank]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/335241460985102337/893759573666725909/The-popcorn-shelves-were-empty.jpg?width=459&height=496

[last cedar]

Yesterday was international raccoon appreciation day

That is all

[static schooner]

I was going to say ‘you don’t get to declare your own holiday!’, but:

International Raccoon Appreciation Day celebrates all animals that are misunderstood and who are known as being pests or "nuisance animals," but who are actually an important part of their ecosystem.

Alright, then

[last cedar]

Stucc

[last cedar]

🦝

[static schooner]

When my cats get stuck like that, or god forbid, get a piece of tape attached to them, they run around the house as fast as possible trying to get away from it. That cat looks surprisingly calm

[last cedar]

She gets paralysed instead

[static schooner]

come to think of it, when one of my first cats got his tiny face stuck in a tiny plastic cup, he just sat there trying to figure out what happened to the world

[last cedar]

LOL

Cats are really silly sometimes

[jade tartan]

So like, i got my espboards in today

I have no idea what i wana do

[dusky plank]

mine bitcoin, what else

[jade tartan]

Lololol, can you?

Like .3 of a mh

Imagine someone having like 100k esps getting like 300mh

[dusky plank]

imagine someone having NG gpus in mass production with double the hash rate of current top notch gpus and holding them back from market to artificially up their worth while literally printing money

welcome to nvidia

[cedar chasm]

Gah, crypto makes me want to join a doomsday cult

one could argue crypto is a doomsday cult but I mean a different one

[dusky plank]

it all became a frenzy since then

[jade tartan]

anyone have a kegerator

[jade tartan]

anyone have a recomendation for a mic and speaker setup for the pi running HA?

kinda wanted to get almond running and be able to also use that as a speaker at times for music

[crisp sapphire]

@last dirge how long have you had the car?

[vast tusk]

My first project was setting up a little display for the inlet air temperature of my server

pretty cool

It pulls data from the HP iLO integration

what irks me about rolling my own electronics with things like ESPhome

is my lack of ability to make a nice case

I really should join my local hackerspace

[hushed basalt]

I see what you did there

[muted bay]

new month yeay. Home assistent is one of them pieces of software that get me really fired up for updating. 😄

[hushed basalt]

You guys update?

[dusky plank]

no updates

only cherry picking certain commits

[steep kindle]

Hi! This is unrelated to HA, however I was wondering if anyone here would know the answer. A single power meter has logged this. What would be the correct way to calculate the total power consumed (kwh)?

Will it be to:

1. Take the mean for the entire set and multiply it by the duration of hours?
2. The area under the curve? Perhaps divide by duration in hours?
3. Sum of all the values? Perhaps also dividing by duration in hours?

Hope someone can clarify me how I calculate this.

[umbral ocean]

Hi! I think the correct way is to integrate/take the are under the curve. The simplest way to do that would probably be to multiply each data point by the time to the next data point and sum all that up. I also think that should be equivalent to taking the average and multiplying by the total duration, assuming the measurements are regular.

[steep kindle]

Thanks! Measurements are at 5 minutes intervals. Atm I have calculated it using my first method. I have the data in a pandas dataframe so I could just try computing the area to see if the result is somewhat similar

[umbral ocean]

Ah, neat. Let me know if it turns out good!

[steep kindle]

@umbral ocean So, it took me some time to figure out that the np.trapz delta x is hour and not seconds based 😄
but the results are very similar with the mean approach ending at 837.87 and the integrate approach is 837.03

[glacial knot]

to read, or to code? What's in it for today?

[dusky plank]

sunday is backup day

gosh I should really stop using dd without tar

[glacial knot]

backups? Do you want to start another holy war in here?

why would you backup with dd? o.0

and why tar? Are you sure you don't mean zstd?

[dusky plank]

because I backed up my server, I don't trust in backups taken from running machines

[unborn sleet]

tuya smart’s not down for just me right now, right?

[clever mortar]

See #integrations-archived

[low harness]

Amazon: "Every day essentials you may like: 240 GB internal SSD drive"

Know what. I am running low on 3.5 inch drives...

[static schooner]

Did it offer a subscription?

[low harness]

*2.5 inch

makes me wonder...

OMG! They actually DO have NOS 3.5 inch floppies!

[brisk glen]

My expectations for this movie

[hushed basalt]

I worry it will be disappinting

I'm not a fan of benedict

[golden harbor]

New member here (and extremely new to HA). Just a feeling question here, how many people felt overwhelmed when they took on HA for the first time? I’m coming from simple Google Home stuff, wanting more powerful automations and to build the home out. But wow….. I have zero “coding” background and this stuff scares me. Am I in over my head!? Lol

[winged zealot]

I'm a full-time software engineer and it was somewhat overwhelming to me even. That said, what I find most overwhelming might be different than what you find.
So far I've done approximately zero programming for HA directly; just the YAML config files (I have probably 80% of my config through the UI, NOT in the manual YAML, and about 20% through YAML). YAML threw me off quite a bit because my first thought was "oh, let me split these up in a nice organized, perhaps recursive directory structure so I don't have one monolithic file". I very quickly slammed into YAMLs limitations there, most of which I still don't understand.

In short, you're probably not in over your head if you're willing to stick to the 'easy way', whatever that means for you.

[glacial knot]

I had some familiarity with openhab when I first looked at HA
And in comparison it was very clean, well documented and compartmentalized. Which made it look small, with a wealth of plugins ^^

[golden harbor]

I’m going to try to stick with it for sure. But everything is new so far. YAML, HACS…. Really having to get tokens or adding code into file editor or any of it! I haven’t even gotten a chance to setup automations just yet, as I haven’t been able to connect all my devices! That’s what scares me the most I thing. Getting everything to talk, since it’s not “supported” integrations and HACS require modifying code. Again, this is coming from someone who is used to the “clean” UI of Google Home, where it’s menus and selections for triggers and actions.

I didn’t want to go the route of smart things, thinking I would outgrow it at somepoint, or buy items that were not compatible/supported and be stuck. But HA definitely has my head spinning a bit! Lol

[umbral ocean]

Oh, interesting! I think the small difference might come from the "data point times time to next" approach basically ignoring the last data point. Thanks!

[vast tusk]

Taking under the curve is the most accurate approach. Even then the accuracy will depend on your sample rate.

[halcyon plover]

I’ve got a little programming under my belt and new to home assistant so far everything has been pretty easy for me setting things up. Thank god for the support on YouTube and the documentation on the site.

[clever mortar]

TBH most of the YAML stuff isn't programming, it's just a structured config file

If you can count (spaces) and match formatting (copy and paste) then you're pretty much golden

If however you're one of those that thinks spaces are optional, it's gonna hurt 😄

[brisk fox]

Anyone know how to send a MQTT message from MACOS without using MQTT Explorer or setting up a broker on the Mac (since I already have the broker on my Pi4)?
(And perhaps receive MQTT messages?)

[dusky plank]

https://curl.se/docs/mqtt.html

[brisk fox]

How about receiving messages? (That would need some sort of daemon I guess)
I would like to be able to script it in bash or something.

[dusky plank]

A plain "GET" subscribes to the topic and prints all published messages.

[brisk fox]

ok, thanks again!

[dusky plank]

as every mac comes with python you can also use
https://www.digi.com/resources/documentation/Digidocs/90001541/reference/r_example_subscribe_mqtt.htm

[brisk fox]

nice, got it working with user/passwd. Thanks!

[dusky plank]

lol, added GPU to windows. windows complains that hardware changed and I need to activate. I use the exact same Key as before and it's activated. what gives?

[dusky plank]

instagram, facebook & whatsapp down in EU, it's like christmas

[brisk fox]

Facebook on my computer is not working, but it is on my phone. WhatsApp is stuck on "connecting" on my phone. (From Australia)
I don't use instagram.

[dusky plank]

yep apparently its CDN and/or DNS related but who knows...

OH NO.

anyways...

[clever mortar]

At least partially DNS

[dusky plank]

https://www.cyberciti.biz/media/new/cms/2017/04/Its-not-DNS.-There-is-no-wayits-DNS.-It-was-DNS.jpeg

[opaque girder]

twitter is trolling 😂

[trail crag]

https://whois.domaintools.com/facebook.com

it's for sale?

[dusky plank]

i tried a few minutes ago, no unfortunately not

[inner vault]

https://twitter.com/jckarter/status/1445089949024325634

Joe Groff (@jckarter)

woah that was quick

Twitter · Oct 4, 2021, 6:14 PM

[dusky plank]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpNNa_Mokok

[wooden egret]

https://twitter.com/vogon/status/1445106139532722179?s=20

yves adele fartlow (@vogon)

@0xabad1dea apparently they withdrew their BGP route advertisements and they can't shell in because they can't route to the network and they can't get into the building because their doorknobs are synced to the corporate LDAP

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Twitter · Oct 4, 2021, 7:18 PM

https://tenor.com/view/смех-дедсмеёться-угар-хахахах-дедмем-gif-15106228

DOORKNOBS

[last cedar]

Yes

Doorknobs

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-retreat-withdraw-bed-hide-gif-18813480

Nn everyone

[dusky plank]

holy sh, domain registrars actually changed to checkig the domain instead of defaulting to owned...

[vague remnant]

also Facebook and Instagram are not working Whatsapp is stuck too on "connecting" since 12:37(BRT). (From Brazil)

[clever mortar]

They've got "an issue" going on

[light trout]

Just a small one https://blog.cloudflare.com/october-2021-facebook-outage/

[subtle pasture]

Yeah, they accidentally pulled their BGP routes

[quartz ether]

It is soo good

I am surprised there isn't a console with a mobile data connection for issues where this could happen. Would hate to be the kid working in the datacenter being screamed at over the phone by a team of people trying to fix it

[subtle pasture]

The people with physical access are also currently unable to enter the building or server room...

Their keycard entry system was integrated with LDAP, and can't currently route to their LDAP server

So all their keycards and access codes went dark

Also fun: Facebook was their own domain registrar. With the entire domain registrar offline, some tools now report facebook.com as "available for purchase" because they aren't coded to handle situations like this

[quartz ether]

Imagine the refunds being offered. Soon as I heard it was a DNS site I wondered if they forgot to pay the bill (has happened in the past for big companies)

[viscid panther]

i heard their employees are locked out of the building cuz their network is down and the access control systems are as well lmao

[quartz ether]

Yea as Leapo said. Cant get into the server room to fix the issues stopping them from getting into the server room. Some kid is either getting a payrise or will be in need of a shit load of counselling

[light trout]

I find that hard to believe, if those use DNS, it should be an internal DNS server which would not be affected by this since it’s inside their own network

[quartz ether]

The routes were dropped.

[light trout]

Still internal

[quartz ether]

But could use a domain name instead of IP

so if DNS server was saying domain name didnt work then it would not matter

Looks likes Facebook is back

[light trout]

You don’t route your internal traffic out and back

[quartz ether]

Global company would be much easier than setting up a wan style network. Even if vpn or similar would need external.

[jade tartan]

so, 1st time messing with tasmota

what can i use to flash?

arduino or pi work?

[quartz ether]

Ask around in #hardware-archived someone should be able to help you

[viscid panther]

dammit i almost could have bought facebook.com

i would have been rich RICH I TELL YOU

i could buy leviton then crash the company

[shut raptor]

Hey guys random question, When did HA release?

its first version that is

[static schooner]

Sept 17 2013, so says Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Assistant

[forest edge]

I like how digi buys new stuff and shows them off for their local control and what not but I cannot for the life of me understand how someone who has no issues flashing everything under the sun to a new firmware or whatever but he doesn't take 5 minutes to look up if a device has an api or not, just goes through the app, see's nothing then complains there is nothing when there is lol

[subtle pasture]

Not sure you understand.. the DNS servers are up, but the BGP routes are gone.

So even though the services are technically up and running, the traffic never makes it there.

Basically, they created a Layer 3 issue, preventing access to all higher layers. Layer 4 services like TCP/UDP/ICMP, and Layer 7 services like DNS/HTTP, were all un-routable until the Layer 3 issue was addressed.

Their internal LDAP or Active Directory domain is likely something like "ad.facebook.com", which requires resolving the name to an IP. The endpoint would try to hit their internal DNS servers at a predefined internal IP address, which won't be on the same subnet or VLAN, and so requires routing. The endpoint asks its configured gateway for a route to the requested IP address... and that's where things go wrong

That gateway looks to its upstream gateway for routes, ultimately arriving at Facebook's core routing infrastructure... which doesn't have routes for facebook.com anymore

So, ultimately, the gateway can't get any traffic routed, even internal traffic, and DNS doesn't respond.

[glacial knot]

That sounds messy around how network Stacks work

The thing that confuses me, why can’t they get their peering partner to temporarily inject a router for them, and fix it that way o.0

[subtle pasture]

That would have allowed traffic to route all the way up until it hit the routers inside Facebook

@glacial knot Might be a bit messy, but referring up several gateways is pretty common in large companies

Client VLANs have their own local gateway, which need to refer up several levels, eventually to core routers, where routes are all managed centrally

[glacial knot]

I’m more confused about the asking for routes
Since the router propagation protocols I know are push, not pull
And routing over the next hop isn’t really asking for a router

[subtle pasture]

I mean, you basically end up in a situation where the routing table is missing a key entry all the way down the stack

[glacial knot]

Mhhm, if we assume that they use BGP internally and dropped their internal routes to their configuration network , which they need to access to get any routes in the outer routers
Which would be simply hilarious

[subtle pasture]

And my point was basically "doesn't matter if DNS is up if you can't get your packets all the way too, and then back from, the DNS server"

[glacial knot]

I’d still be surprised they don’t fallback in a different site via anycast
I really want to see that retrospective on this incident

[subtle pasture]

Also, if it were that big of a fuckup, DHCP packets may have stopped flowing

It's possible endpoint devices all jumped to 169.254.xxx.xxx addresses

Then you have even bigger problems reaching things until DHCP comes back

[glacial knot]

I doubt that they have leases short enough for that to happen before they jump on the case

[subtle pasture]

I suppose what would have saved them here is a backup domain that's federated with their primary one, and can be used as a backup for administrative tasks

Just make it a rule never to tinker with the routes for both of them at the same time 😛

[glacial knot]

They should be, at least, 1/4th if the lease left at any time
And DHCP below a day or so only makes sense to do things over DHCP it’s not intended to do

[subtle pasture]

I usually see short DHCP leases on high-traffic networks, like wifi for airports or coffee shops...

[glacial knot]

Yea. Those aren’t data centers

[subtle pasture]

Or small businesses where they're running a flat network on a /24 and are always on the verge of running out of addresses. lol

[glacial knot]

We run in a /16^^

With, 3 external ips I think

[subtle pasture]

We usually stick to /24s because there's usually never any need for 255+ devices on a single network segment

Need to send traffic to a cubical on the next floor? That's in a separate VLAN anyway, with its own subnet and /24 just for that particular cubical farm.

[glacial knot]

It’s vastly over provisioned
Every dev gets a /24 assigned for test devices and temporary servers

🤦 : cubicles

[subtle pasture]

Some of the clients I handle have cubical farms 🤷‍♀️

[glacial knot]

I’d just quit 🤷

We have a layer 2 domain spanning multiple sites even
Because!

It would work routed
But hey…

I’d love to restructure our networks
But I’m CTO area , not COO

[bitter pawn]

needing more than a /24....well cameras in a huge building come to mind

or multiple buildings.

got several sites with more than 255 cameras.

but yeah. might be the exception, not the rule

[subtle pasture]

In most circumstances, you probably shouldn't have more than 255 cameras on a single VLAN to begin with. lol

Cameras are on their own VLAN for security reasons. You don't want someone popping a camera off the wall, plugging into Ethernet, and having access to the entire network

But if you have hundreds of cameras grouped together, you probably don't want someone popping a camera off the wall and having access to all of those, either

[last cedar]

Most bigger systems struggle with maybe 1500 cameras or more, you probably are running your own 10.x.x.x though so not an issue.

And exactly what you said there Leapo, security can be a real pain.

At the point where there are that many cameras you are normally looking at nuclear power stations or such, and they have no deadspots, even if someone pops a camera off the wall, they are already being filmed by another camera

[subtle pasture]

We actually had an incident at my office several years ago where someone jumped up and ripped an outdoor camera off the side of our building, exposing the in-wall ethernet. The camera was designed for outdoor use and had a full security screw mounting system... and this guy somehow managed to rip it out of the studs it was screwed into...

Guess they never intended for it to support 200+ lbs

@last cedar What's great is when someone vandalizes a camera to the point that it shorts PoE and kills the upstream PoE switch managing the rest of the cameras... seen that happen once...

Three whacks to the face of the camera with an aluminum baseball bat, then all cameras at the site stopped recording.

Granted, larger sites would need multiple PoE switches anyway, but it's something else to plan for

Separate indoor/outdoor infrastructure is pretty common.

[bitter pawn]

then youre just minimizing possible access not eliminating it.

[last cedar]

Ouch, that wasn't good 😦

[bitter pawn]

also most of the modern POE switches are supposed to detect shorts and disable the port

[last cedar]

Would want to have seperate PoE feeds to stuff so that if one went down, it didn't take any more than that one camera with it

[bitter pawn]

but supposed to != does

so its meh

most of the time you dont want more than 24 poe cameras per switch. there are 48 port poe switches but in my experience, they typically suck and fail consistently.

also depending the spec of server

and design, the server might be set to record to more than 255 cameras.

one could argue add a nic to the server for different networks

or add access to a different vlan

so its meh. while technically more secure, its not that much more secure in the grand scheme of things.

because then its just getting access to the server that would have access to all the camera vlans.

so saying it should or shouldnt is kinda meh. like yeah i guess its more secure technically, but id question if it really would stop a malicious actor.

[subtle pasture]

Correct, there is no eliminating it

Red team will eventually always find a way

You mitigate what you can down to the a level of risk that the client is willing to accept, balanced against the level of complexity they're willing to accept

[subtle pasture]

I blame Ubiquity for this one. It was one of their switches that unleashed the blue smoke when the attached camera got destroyed.

You could go as far as to set up static ARP across the entire camera VLAN, assign every camera manually, and configure ACLs to prevent one camera from ever talking to another on the same segment, but then you need to pay an IT person or security company to document and manage that fairly opaque network configuration, which costs money.

[bitter pawn]

and management of that

cameras go down and do funky things

[subtle pasture]

And even if you do ALL of that, it's not like there haven't been multiple zero-day exploits for switches that could allow bypassing most or all of that security...

[bitter pawn]

nods

[subtle pasture]

Welcome to the arms race. lol

[bitter pawn]

i dont agree to doing what you can because you can. that can add complexity to an already complex setup.

i would want to see a purpose.

and the purpose of segmenting the vlan would be to limit access to all cameras vs. a set of cameras.

which if you were doing your due diligence anyways, cameras should be complex password protected and at least somewhat a pita to get into

[subtle pasture]

Lol, you underestimate how many cameras are deployed with horribly insecure firmware

It doesn't help that a large number of "brand name" cameras are actually just rebrands of the same three Chinese and Tiwanese cameras

One exploit blows open hundreds of models

[glacial knot]

port ACLs on the edge switches go a long way to limit access

[subtle pasture]

@glacial knot Unless you're running a Cisco SG200 with CDP enabled, which is exploitable and will never be patched because that entire series of switches aged out a couple weeks before the patch was developed. Whee!

That CDP exploit was a nasty one for CIsco hardware

[bitter pawn]

this is why you dont go with cheap chinese crap or rebrand of said cheap chinese crap.

but then again

[subtle pasture]

Yeah, the problem is companies like Panasonic and Sony will use the cheap stuff for some of their range...

[bitter pawn]

nods

a good poe camera usually hits $200-$300 mark if security is your concern

[sterile fractal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B635wcdr6-w

Linus talks about Home Assistant again.

[hot merlin]

the pain in those eyes.

[hushed basalt]

@last cedar

[orchid rose]

https://www.comedywildlifephoto.com/images/gallery/9/00001069_p.jpg

[last cedar]

Yee haw!

[viscid panther]

Ya'll hear about the twitch source code leaks?

[last cedar]

Unfortunately

[viscid panther]

i found the paste bin

thing is fuckin massive

[last cedar]

Fortunately I don't use Twitch

[viscid panther]

yeah neither do i

i have a burner account for rust for twitch drops but that's it

[sand agate]

love how he talks about a $1300 card like it's something everyone could have or should need

[vast tusk]

No kill like overkill my friend.

Like hunting bunnies with atomic bombs.

[sterile fractal]

@sand agate I could have one but it won't fit in my nuc 😆

[sand agate]

lol well aren't you lucky

[vast tusk]

@languid raven Continuing on the pidgeon RFC, there is RFC2549.

"IP over Avian Carriers with QoS"

Multicasting is supported, but requires the implementation of a clone
   device.  Carriers may be lost if they are based on a tree as it is
   being pruned.  The carriers propagate via an inheritance tree.  The
   carriers have an average TTL of 15 years, so their use in expanding
   ring searches is limited.

[languid raven]

@vast tusk Oh, dear god. I'm actually giggling.

[vast tusk]

"Unintentional encapsulation in hawks has been known to occur, with decapsulation being messy and the packets mangled."

[languid raven]

Some network engineer had waaaayy too much time on his hands. Either that or was over indulging. 🙂

[vast tusk]

They even updated it for ipv6 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6214

[last cedar]

Very disappointing, no raccoons in my garden

But 2 moose

https://tenor.com/view/snow-sven-reindeer-ice-frozen-gif-7325993

[subtle pasture]

To be fair, it's only that expensive if you need 16 Coral processors on a single PCIe card...

You can get a single-TPU Coral accelerator for $25, or a dual-TPU accelerator for $40

They also have it in USB-stick format, if you want to pair it with something like a Raspberry Pi

Even Linus couldn't figure out what to do with 16 TPUs while playing around with it in the video. lol

[sand agate]

Yeah, I've already got an m.2 coral for frigate on my system. 200fps is more than what I need unless I end up putting a camera in every room of my house

[subtle pasture]

Even then, if you run the object recognition at 5 FPS like Linus did, that's still 40 cameras on one TPU

[sand agate]

Yeah, tis true. I guess since I am a pleb, one TPU would be plenty for me lol

[brisk glen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMyA9crc3j4

Well I’ll be Dam, I already have matter devices

[dusky plank]

my eve aqua already talks to my homepod

[hushed basalt]

Amazon don't seem to be practicing what they preach

[quartz ether]

My energy company and the end of last month dropped support for the DIN mounted energy monitor they have been trialing for 2 years. Pretty much said sorry we don't support that bye. Have to pay for a sparky to remove it from the board. So instead I messaged the company that makes it they have set me up as a user (meant to be business to business model not for personal use).
Hoping tomorrow when they are back at work I can get them to also sort out giving me an API account :).

[covert ether]

I'm looking for some sort of display that I can throw some text on via homeassistant. Does anyone know of any AIO or DIY solutions? All my google searches only give me wrong things like Alexa Show, Nest Hub etc...

[clever mortar]

#integrations-archived would be an idea starting point

[hushed basalt]

You should just get eastron modbus

[hearty depot]

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/gp/product/B01D92W4EA/i-loled-so-hard

[hushed basalt]

When he doesn't realise his emf baseball cap doesn't protect his eyes

[last cedar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/184324186284621824/895663240795787354/image0.png

[orchid rose]

this is like one of those AI created images of random things that doesn't add up to anything

fucks up my brain

[orchid rose]

pogchamp if we had one

[vast tusk]

What the actual 🦆ing 🦆

[vast tusk]

What is this

[orchid rose]

I don't fucking know but it scares me

[hot kestrel]

hi guys, not sure where to ask this as its not really specific to any room.
i use Alexa echo's, they interact with HA and sonoff zigbee bridge with sonoff basic's ext for home automation. i have a node red routine that turn off tv's based on what Alexa device asks for the command. no issue here just setting the scene

recently whenever i ask to turn of the tv. the bedroom tv turn of as well as the tv that should have turned off. at first i thought it was node red, so after failing to debug it i disabled node red, issue still happened. after that I stopped my vm for home assistant, issue still present. I've tried to turn off adb commands on firestick, check software update, restart and even pull power but still firestick goes back to home screen then goes to sleep when you say tv off. there are no routines in Alexa that do this ive checked and i do not have my firesticks linked in Alexa app.
any thoughts before i pull all my hair out (other than my next obvious action of factory reset) Thanks in advance

[velvet horizon]

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[clever mortar]

Though, happening with HA shut down .... nothing to do with HA

[hot kestrel]

i understnd that and its why i asked in off topic ancase anyone who knows alexa had any idea

[vast tusk]

Lol you went off topic in #the-water-cooler