that don't sound right
#the-water-cooler
fallow karma
Nope, his not Russian , they wouldn't use lbs 😆
dull chasm
@forest edge hint ..hint .. i am talking about the ole lady
i converted ....got tired of vochers and metric system and tea and and
forest edge
sounds like someone will be sleeping with the cattle under the moonlight
dull chasm
prolly get better sleep
fallow karma
Better not to sleep time is money 😎
forest edge
you should get @tidal bronze to come down and install you a whole farm speaker setup so the cows can listen to Bach
dull chasm
we have sourond sound ....its called crikets
deft pewter
you should get <@!331255319365812224> to come down and install you a whole farm ...
So you can have some baby bach, baby bach, baby bach... rrrribs
fallow karma
dull chasm
baby back ribs ...are pork here in the states
deft pewter
I don't care. That didn't work with the joke.
tidal bronze
@forest edge what's wrong with Bach?
forest edge
nothing, i am sure his cows will love it. all the more reason for you to hurry and install his farm surround sound system
@tidal bronzeif you had already installed his whole farm speaker system he could have been out there today listening to this while dying from heat stroke lol https://youtu.be/uZD8HKVKneI
late gate
What do I need to do to be allowed to buy this to the living room https://www.avshop.no/product/dreamscreen-cineseat-promotor-v4-motorisert-recliner-3-seter-textileshield-mikrofiber-sort/
forest edge
if you are over the age of 30 that is a real shit purchase
forest edge
those things are built like crap and uncomfortable as hell as your bones age
late gate
Its not. Cheap one its a 5000usd one
forest edge
that means nothing
late gate
Lets see. I probably won’t buy
forest edge
do you have movie theaters there that have seats like that?
if you do go sit through like 2 movies straight then try and walk
they sub comfort with features to keep the price down to a point where some people can stomach paying the price tag
tidal bronze
@late gate get a better couch install custom bass shakers.
shadow python
Roborock S6 on sale for $379 - any reviews? Worth it?
tidal bronze
S6 is great.
wintry hazel
There's a speaker I saw at car shows a few years back called like the earthquake or earth shaker or something that seemed to only provide mad vibrations if you really want such a thing
why people install more vibrations in their trash project cars I don't get, like I like clear quality audio over everyone outside the car knowing you're a nob
wintry hazel
also useful for hosting/distribution of traditional TV/AV in your home, or a step forward in pi based networking/firewall also
tidal bronze
There's a speaker I saw at car shows a few years back called like the earthquake...
I have no idea why you need that in a car but at home sub 30hz is crucial.
wintry hazel
I have hearing issues, nothing is that crucial to me
tidal bronze
You really can't hear 30hz so that's why they come as tactile transducers.
wintry hazel
oh cool
I want to buy an occulus quest specifically because the bone transmitted audio thing it did gave me the cleanest audio experience I have ever had. Only time I have ever felt motivated to spend more money for sound
hushed basalt
What sort of monitors are you rocking at home
Particularly interested in productivity monitors not gaming
forest edge
look out for dell monitor sales. cheapest you will usually find
wintry hazel
ready for me to make all the pc monitor/peripheral nerds feel really disgusted in me?
I have a Dell G2410 and two Dell P2210s.
the 2210s are second hand from a banking firm and the 2410 I bought when I was in high school and has survived like 3 computers
forest edge
nothing wrong with dell's
wintry hazel
yeah but they're 10 years old
hardware obsessed people in the gaming community are like "you can't even play games on those"
forest edge
color calibration is the only down side. that and refresh rates but both of those more aimed at artwork and gaming etc
wintry hazel
Also nothing I have played has been unplayable on my GTX 760, 4GB
I've known people who are genuinely upset and offended at this suggestion
forest edge
ok your gfx card is disgusting
hell you could buy a 1030 for dirt cheap so there is no excuse
wintry hazel
I'm in Australia, all our IT costs more to get here than even to buy overseas and ship here, except customs holds it if you do that.
Also it's still money when I am a mature age electrical apprentice with a home loan to pay and one income
I'm pretty happy being one of the few self-supporting people my age who owns a house though, so I make do just playing games I like and not having any issues running them
subtle pasture
ready for me to make all the pc monitor/peripheral nerds feel really disgusted i...
You're in good company. I'm still running 3x Dell U2412M
wintry hazel
noice
subtle pasture
24" 1920x1200 (16:10) 8-bit S-IPS panels
I'd love to upgrade to something with G-Sync, and/or an ultrawide, but I'm really not a fan of curved monitors...
forest edge
predator makes a non curved g-sync montor
I almost bought one during the amazon prime day
wintry hazel
I will eventually rack mount my PC and upgrade to something with maybe a thunderbolt dock and a triple monitor mount on my desk, delete as many cables at possible
subtle pasture
Checking now. It sucks that there aren't a whole lot of monitors that are good at both gaming AND professional workloads...
wintry hazel
299 US?
subtle pasture
I'd probably be looking at the 27" version. The 24" one in that review is a downgrade from my current screens in a number of ways
subtle pasture
Also, I notice it's an 8-bit panel with FRC (which it uses to fake 10-bit color). Can you turn FRC off?
forest edge
the 144hz one is 250ish now
subtle pasture
I'm not sure how well it works at 144hz, but FRC looks like ass at 60Hz
forest edge
the nitro version uses freesync and those are cheaper
subtle pasture
I'm seeing the 27" 144Hz version for $442 on Amazon right now
forest edge
Also, I notice it's an 8-bit panel with FRC (which it uses to fake 10-bit color)...
you can't really tell the diffrence
they don't have true HDR
"proper" i mean
subtle pasture
Not asking about HDR specifically. All FRC does is flicker rapidly between two colors to try and emulate a 3rd color using persistence of vision
It looks terrible. It was a cheap trick 6-bit panels used to use to try and look like 8-bit panels.
forest edge
I don't think anything current has that issue because they don't put that on anything under 75hz
subtle pasture
The effect often looks like visual snow when attempting to render smooth gradients
forest edge
75hz is the bare min
subtle pasture
I also notice it has ULMB in the marketing material. Is there a way to shut THAT off as well?
forest edge
watch the video, the dude really picks apart the monitors short comings lol
subtle pasture
And what frequency is the PWM in the backlight?
forest edge
but for the price. it's hard to beat
subtle pasture
I'll give it a watch, but most reviewers fail to address backlight PWM frequency, which is a pretty big problem for me, because I can often see the flicker
I've had to return monitors and backlit gaming peripherals because the flicker was so bad / annoying
subtle pasture
And I literally can't watch a DLP projector or rear-projection TV without seeing rainbows everywhere
forest edge
but I didn't care for the LG reviews
tidal bronze
Monitors 🤔
forest edge
yea not all of us had jacks surgically implanted in the back of our heads quad
subtle pasture
Apparently the rainbow thing is because of the color wheel in the projector not rotating fast enough. Real annoying...
tidal bronze
This is to play games ?
forest edge
no, to watch cooking videos
tidal bronze
Oh ok that makes sense
subtle pasture
Nope, brand-new shit... there's a theater in-town that I actively avoid because they have brand-new DLP cinema projectors
Makes movies unwatchable
forest edge
well when it comes to theater that a diffrent story
subtle pasture
I've seen it on brand-new demo units in stores, too...
tidal bronze
Go to a Dolby theater
forest edge
don't think i've seen a rear projection tv in a store in 20 years
subtle pasture
Color wheel needs to be running at about 6000 RPM before the rainbows start to go away, and most DLP projectors top out at around 3600 RPM
tidal bronze
Do you have ipic or arclight theaters?
forest edge
how do you know wtf they are?
subtle pasture
But the bigger issue here is backlight PWM. Seems like I need it to be about 1 kHz before the flicker becomes imperceptible.
A lot of backlights are between 300Hz and 600Hz, which isn't enough :/
Hue bulbs also run at around 600Hz, and I can see them flicker at low brightness
forest edge
well don't worry, after you turn 40 you won't notice these things
tidal bronze
If its cinema you should be fine with Dolby vision projectors.
Where and what is this cinema you are taking about ?
forest edge
why the fuck do they keep regurgitating the same movies over and over! https://youtu.be/82Oc6Y3iNe4
wintry hazel
cash cows/holding on to rights
if you have the rights to a particular IP (some Marvel heroes were impacted by this) you have to actually use them within some period of time or other.
forest edge
<@104768700069990400> https://www.dga.org/
i see no, "tell us we're shit" links
tidal bronze
I can voice your opinion at a meeting gladly.
forest edge
do that seriously tell them to fucking stop remaking the same crap over and over
not going to be any creative brain cells left before long
wintry hazel
that's optimistic
tidal bronze
I will make sure I tell that GTS is not happy with current shit. They gotta up the game.
@forest edge but then again you are listening to the audio via aux in your boom box right 🤔
forest edge
they are talking about coming out with a Gremlins 3 which is at least better than a remake.
wintry hazel
yeah but they'll try to make them visually "modern" which as in the above thumbnail, is less creepy
forest edge
what I read was they would still use puppets
so won't be as bad as just CGI'ing everything
tidal bronze
What I can't stand is bad CGI,
forest edge
i can't stand when they try and use CGI to make actors look younger
tidal bronze
Well auto tune for faces 😆
tidal bronze
Reduced loads of production costs.
forest edge
yea and made virtually anyone be able to barf out an album
tidal bronze
Sadly yes.
forest edge
can't sing? no problem!
tidal bronze
And no retakes
forest edge
combine the two and sloth from the goonies could sing and look like a model in the music video
tidal bronze
At the same time very few people in the world can keep pitch with synthesized music. 🙄
So equal blame goes to electronic music.
forest edge
lol
wintry hazel
Heheh. I couldn't sit still during the online/lockdown TAFE classes so I have cast my desktop audio throughout the entire house. It only has like 2 seconds of lag
apparently chromecast likes to be 2 seconds behind probably due to the buffer
wintry hazel
I did. By switching the format to Wav/16bit with sound card sample rate and 0 for device buffer in seconds
but it's still noticeable between headphones vs the google home
either way. it's still a clever use of the home
tidal bronze
Run a metronome adjust the GH
wintry hazel
the GH doesn't go under 0
tidal bronze
Change the other output above 0 200ms then delay the GH
wintry hazel
I am not that committed to using desktop audio streamer in favour of getting a bluetooth dongle and connecting over that
also it's not about syncing headphones to the home, it's just answering as soon as possible if I am asked a question
tidal bronze
I have quite a few Google speakers etc it was a task to sync but after many tries it's perfect now.
wintry hazel
my home's are in sync with eachother straight out of the box
tidal bronze
I wish that was the case. Some of the GH devices have paired 12" subs running via CC audio. I think altogether 19 with 4 different AVRs. So not a small task 😆
wintry hazel
oh my house is too small for that. I started by getting a JBL link bar with my TV which had google/android tv apps and used google home assistant for voice control. (Apparently newer ones do not do this any more) it came with a sub and after switching channels, opening netflix, etc using voice I started buying home minis and a home hub whenever I got discounts, or christmas vouchers from work. The only thing that's weird is sometimes I have to turn the screen on to make the linkbar receive chromecast audio but I don't often worry about that
tidal bronze
So no HDMI pass-through on TV or you must be using ARC for return channel
wintry hazel
well my actual assumption is that because I have the TV and soundbar doing eARC and did all the fancy for when various volume levels cut things in, it's probably turning the main soundbar functionality off at the same time as the TV when I say "turn the tv off", and so only the assistant part stays active
tidal bronze
Didn't know TVs came with eARC now. Haven't used ARC at all
wintry hazel
yeah if you plug anything modern into a Samsung TV at least, one or the other should advise you that you get features if you do what they say
so my TV and linkbar have labelled ports to plug to do that
tidal bronze
Never looked into eARC because of the the initial buggy implementation probably all fixed now. I have nothing plugged into TVs all go through AVRs and HDMI distribution units.
forest edge
how do you have nothing plugged into tv?
tidal bronze
Magic
forest edge
your audio has to pass through the tv before going to an avr
wintry hazel
I also find it odd when people's stuff don't have CEC for appliances. like why do you still need 2 remotes?
tidal bronze
your audio has to pass through the tv before going to an avr
Why on earth would you do that. All sources plug into AVR. AVR outs to TV.
I don't use TV apps at all.
forest edge
how does it pipe audio from an avr to speakers without going through the tv?
tidal bronze
Every TV has a shield pro
static schooner
the AVR feeds the speakers?
forest edge
oh so the tv is just a monitor
tidal bronze
Yep.
static schooner
without exception, TV apps suck
wintry hazel
Yeah the only thing a nice living room needs is the TV and sound system with power and one ethernet. all wall mounted. Your consoles can go in a rack or cupboard
Nah, netflix is fine
"Hey google, continue watching community on netflix"
static schooner
I love my Shields. They've taken over all streaming activity with exception of Apple TV+
forest edge
@tidal bronzedo you not watch cable tv or anything?
shrewd oasis
Hello Everyone, any takers for my question in #automations-archived?
forest edge
I may be able to do without cable tv but I would never not have OTA atleast as a backup
tidal bronze
@forest edge no. Plex Netflix Amazon. What I watch depends on the audio track. 🤣
wintry hazel
What do you get with apple TV+? I got a year subscription with my phone but all it seems to do it point me to where I can pay more money to watch things
forest edge
too dependant on the internet for my taste lol
static schooner
I'm torn on it
I also got it for free and just started paying
I need to decide whether to continue
wintry hazel
but what is on it?
wintry hazel
like for free wiythout renting any series, what is there?
tidal bronze
@forest edge I don't watch news or listen, you take care of that task for me. 👍
forest edge
apparently
wintry hazel
hmm
forest edge
just watch atmos crap prob most nature bullshit with birds chirping in surround sound
tidal bronze
I know there's anything critical in Cali I get the discord ding.
shrewd oasis
I have forgotten how interesting this chat was 😆
wintry hazel
You can connect your terrestrial TV service to Plex also if you want it
forest edge
with plex pass
static schooner
they've also cleverly spread Ted Lasso out with an episode per week, milking the monthly subscription
forest edge
f paying for that lol
tidal bronze
@forest edge birds chirping in atmos?😆
forest edge
I would never ask quad for his plex access cause I know his library has got to be severely limited lol
if it's not 128.1 surround sound, he don't listen to it
wintry hazel
I use IPTV because my family has Foxtel GO and I can sync their paid foxtel channels into my EPG alongside the free to air ones and continue to yell at my TV to do anything I want
tidal bronze
You gotta have x.x.4. X.1 days are long gone.
forest edge
I set my mom up with youtube tv and she seems to like it but I would never put faith in iptv lol
wintry hazel
It works nice here
forest edge
I like to traditionally channel flip
wintry hazel
like I do have fibre to the premises, and am using a playlist that isn't officially supported by Freeview Australia so someone's actually working to keep it working; but still
you can channel flip using IPTV
forest edge
not really
wintry hazel
it literally feeds the playlist and EPG to the same live channels front-end for "smart" TVs
forest edge
it is not the same
wintry hazel
so you go up, down, or use the guide the same way
forest edge
it could never be the same
wintry hazel
how is it not the same?
forest edge
well delay is a big one
wintry hazel
what delay?
wintry hazel
I guarantee on modern equipment it's the same speed as your TV tuner takes
forest edge
i call bs on that
wintry hazel
call it all you want. it's a viable alternative
static schooner
my parents couldn't deal with anything other than a straight cable connection for the same reason
forest edge
not to mention most services you have to pick a channel from the guide menu
every aspect of iptv is slower, you can't turn off the tv and back on to the same channel, can't fast flip through channels
wintry hazel
I personally do. Frequently
static schooner
Home Assistant can fill some of those gaps - I can launch YTTV and switch to a specific channel
static schooner
it is, in part because YTTV has to launch, and that takes a few seconds on its own
but it emulates the old "turn on and TV starts playing" paradigm
wintry hazel
but that's an app, not feeding the stream straight to the TV's default live channels
forest edge
we had an old channel+ box that had streaming channels baked into exsisting channel line up
so as you flipped channels down to one of them it just started it's default stream
which is probably what you are talking about
it was still slow because when you switched onto it it still had to do the handshake etc bs
wintry hazel
If it doesn't work for you, you do you,
forest edge
till you have had both you don't really know
wintry hazel
I have
forest edge
hell I can tell the diffrence between flipping channels using todays cable box's in compared to when cable tv was actually handled by the tv's built in tuner
willow sundial
hell I can tell the diffrence between flipping channels using todays cable box's...
forest edge
that is old
willow sundial
Lol
forest edge
those were required for older tv's (at that time) but as long as the tv had a tuner built in you didn't need it
willow sundial
I only remember having a box and putting the TV on ch3
forest edge
yea if your tv had rotary dials you needed it lol
@tidal bronze ugh amazon may start accepting cryptocurrency in the future.. shit just won't die
tidal bronze
That's amazing 👏
forest edge
no, no it isn't
tidal bronze
So not only property you can get esp32 with crypto. Wonderful 👍
forest edge
property? you have realtors accepting crypto there for homes?
tidal bronze
You can pay for anything with crypto 😉
tidal bronze
You feeling alright today? I usually here that from people who missed out on crypto. Let not your heart be troubled. Jump in on the wave.
wintry hazel
not right now though, I don't reckon anything will climb too high for a bit
(he says, currently down a few bucks)
dusky plank
hushed basalt
I have 2x Dell 24" U2415s atm but I hate them
I'm craving something high PPI and large vertical and horizontal dimensions
=>60hz, decent HDR would be a bonus too
I find the 1440p on the ultrawides not good enough for coding
rocky yarrow
Not exactly off-topic: DISCO MODE!
hollow glacier
Not *exactly* off-topic: DISCO MODE!
LedFx?
hollow glacier
ah
are you familiar with wled, soundreactive fork, and ledfx? you probably recreated the wheel -.-
rocky yarrow
This is my first foray into HA. I'm all low budget experimentation for now. Just having fun and learning.
rocky yarrow
Already did
hollow glacier
nice
rocky yarrow
But it's for neopixel-ish stuff, and I don't have any of that. These are all just my normal house lights.
hollow glacier
ah gotcha
i've used a few strips around the house
ideally i'd use the skr6812 rgbw strips
rocky yarrow
Probably not in this house... Maybe after a move.
hollow glacier
rgbbed is pretty sweet
rocky yarrow
to light up all the clothes I toss in the floor? lol
hollow glacier
maybe
warm cargo
Hello. I'd like to create a custom login screen for my installation, i use it for commercial, monitoring of mining rigs and power consumption and some control for my customers over their machines.
Is it possible to change the login screen for something custom (of course reference, like "powered by Home Assistant") would remain intact.
forest edge
@warm cargoyour gonna want to ask that in #frontend-archived
warm cargo
Thanks!
fallow karma
Mornin
last cedar
hushed basalt
wintry hazel
it's about as valid as "Microsoft Office"
hushed basalt
You'd be surprised
A lot of people can't google stuff
effectively
And googling is a major part of most jobs
clever mortar
Though, you could reasonably replace google with research there
glacial knot
Our internal wiki system has a subpar search
The ability to search that one, that’s a skill worth advertising
deft pewter
I've worked with Confluence for years. If you can find something on there, you deserve a medal.
hushed basalt
Try when everything is split between Sharepoint, ServiceNow and Confluence
deft pewter
New place uses Notion for pretty much everything. I think I like it.
hushed basalt
tame sand
I've worked with Confluence for years. If you can find something on there, you d...
agree 100% Confluence only works if everyone using it follows some standards...We have it aswell and its a permission hellscape and you can't find anything.
tame sand
New place uses Notion for pretty much everything. I think I like it.
I use notion for university and it has served me well so far Although i don't think it really solves the problems confluence has
deft pewter
I use it for personal stuff too and love it. I haven't used databases or their API yet though.
vast grove
is there a specific channel for the vscode extension help?
static schooner
If you're talking about the addon, #add-ons-archived or the Addon server
if you're talking about the actual HA extension, then not really
vast grove
🤷♂️ its the vscode HA extension https://github.com/keesschollaart81/vscode-home-assistant
static schooner
then that's where
vast grove
says come here 😂
static schooner
there's not really much to setting it up
vast grove
its the connecting im having trouble with
static schooner
there are only two things you have to do for that - provide the URL to your HA instance and create and provide a LLAT
vast grove
yep so im using vscode remote ssh to work with the HA config files and compose file.
the default container setup has all of its config files owned by root.
that might be one of the issues. also, the url of the server:port is http://192.168.1.10:8123 but im already on the host because of the vscode remote ssh connection inception thing.
static schooner
I don't think that matters. you have a way to access the HA instance, and that should work anywhere
bitter pawn
Not *exactly* off-topic: DISCO MODE!
now my wife wants me to do this....
vast grove
I don't think that matters. you have a way to access the HA instance, and that ...
the url part you mean? im wondering if i need to set the container user to 1000 while down and own the files, then bring it back up again 🤔
static schooner
I suppose this better in #general-archived , but you can see the HA extension logs at Output->Home Assistant Language Server in the window at the bottom
you haven't been specific about what the actual problem is
anyway, more in #general-archived
neon hawk
I signed up to that Tuya beta and oh boy am I super confused by their website
I do have the Tuya V2 installed and working but then I went back into the Tuya site to have a poke around and omg its hideous!
rocky yarrow
now my wife wants me to do this....
It's all fun and games until you accidentally hit the Disco Mode switch after looking at the bedroom temperature on your phone at 3:30 AM and Disco Inferno erupts in the living room...LOL
neon hawk
haha yes done that one! been woken up a few times cos my scripts were not 100% and the sensors decided I moved too much in my sleep and turned the lights on
bitter pawn
It's all fun and games until you accidentally hit the Disco Mode switch after lo...
who says that wouldnt be intentional?
sinister laughter intensifies
hot merlin
it's about as valid as "Microsoft Office"
A few times after working with people I've wanted to take a few things like this off their resumes.
Also hi, I just showed up yesterday.
wintry hazel
Yeah like “excel skills” exist until you trust them with a spreadsheet that has a vlookup
wintry hazel
And hi, I usually just lurk
hot merlin
Solid plan.
I set HA up on a pi for my zwave door lock and then wired my doorbell up to send me alerts. So I figured I should join this discord to soak up knowledge or something.
forest edge
this discord only kills brain cells and empties wallets
hot merlin
Shout out to Frenck for the great guide on the doorbell.
I'm on a mech keyboard discord as well so no problem on the wallet front, it's already empty. 👍
clever mortar
this discord only kills brain cells and empties wallets
To be fair, I think 50% of the brain cells were in doubt before they arrived here...
deft pewter
How many keyboards so far? 😂
hot merlin
Just two. Not counting group buy yet to be produced. 😁
I don't have much expensive stuff frankly.
(for kbs)
deft pewter
Group buys 🤢
If I can't buy something in stock, I don't want it. I'm not waiting months (or years) to get something I've paid for.
hot merlin
And I just ordered a zwave external power outlet because it gets cold here and I'd rather not use a timer for my car block heater and battery blanket.
deft pewter
I've also only got one nice mech so far... but tempted by a 40%
deft pewter
I think the only reason I discounted that one was it only has one USB port. I wanted passthrough.
hot merlin
So once the power outlet comes I get to figure out how to get it to turn on at 4 am when temp <= - 30C. Or whatever.
glacial knot
I've also only got one nice mech so far... but tempted by a 40%
I consider 60% the sweet spot
If I don’t even have normal number keys, things go wrong
hot merlin
I have been bringing the K6 to and from work which has been working out well, but makes me look like a big dork. 😛
forest edge
So once the power outlet comes I get to figure out how to get it to turn on at 4...
make use of the forums when looking how to put together templates/automations. you will likely find someone else in the same or very similar boat as you https://community.home-assistant.io/
hot merlin
Yeah, I imagine not a completely unique scenario so that's where I was going to start.
Thank you though.
glacial knot
I have been bringing the K6 to and from work which has been working out well, bu...
Yes. You need at least twice the amount of keyboards
Also, Click At Home, tactile silent at work
hot merlin
Also need to replace my NAS, so considering building a new server and trying proxmox, putting HA on that etc etc, which hey we were just talking about spending.
glacial knot
Proxmox is neat
hot merlin
Yeah, I've heard. It'll be a learning experience. Or I could just get a replacement Synology instead.
Things to decide at another time.
deft pewter
I consider 60% the sweet spot
If I don’t even have normal number keys, things g...
Who needs number keys? 😂
deft pewter
Also, Click At Home, tactile silent at work
And are you saying I should change my switches when I finish my working day? 🤔
hot merlin
Accountants?
deft pewter
Real accountants use pen and paper.
hot merlin
Abaci
deft pewter
Bless you
hot merlin
ty
deft pewter
I take it you don't fancy one of those chorded thingymabobs, @glacial knot ? Stenowhatsits
glacial knot
And are you saying I should change my switches when I finish my working day? 🤔
Nah. Switch keyboard
glacial knot
I take it you don't fancy one of those chorded thingymabobs, <@!2328593830867107...
??
static schooner
Seemed clear enough 🙂
hushed basalt
Yeah, I've heard. It'll be a learning experience. Or I could just get a replacem...
Dump the Synology
Get a real server and budget for 6 drives in raidz2
By real server I just mean any case and motherboard that can take 6 x sata drives and some nvme boot
forest edge
yea make sure those pictures of grandma never get lost
young sigil
Clay tablets last for millennia.
hot merlin
Dump the Synology
Yeah, that's where I'm headed. Just need to make the time, pretty much.
hushed basalt
Proxmox is okay. It's what I use but its not a great hypervisor
Some people like Truenas Scale
deft pewter
??
You press down combinations of keys to type entire words.
Same thing that court recorders use to keep up with all the talking.
Doubt it'd be any good for coding, since you often want made up words for variables and functions. Those keyboards basically work by picking out words from a (sometimes custom) dictionary list.
glacial knot
ahh
low harness
Those are so cool. Used for live closed captioning too.
Back in the day when live tv was very very live, you could sometimes see the last couple of words change when the next one made the software realize the previous one should be different.
molten osprey
Does HA know how to handle its host (I run supervised) being on multiple VLANs at the same time? Or does it listen on all interfaces and just let the OS handle the routing etc. ?
low harness
Try asking in #330990055533576204. The people who hang around there would probably know better.
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
Also, hopefully you don't run #330944238910963714
clever mortar
For all the reasons that are regularly discussed about it 😛
(and others, many many many others)
molten osprey
Ok. I don't really want to dedicate an entire host to just HA though. So I guess 'container' or 'core' in the future? 🙂
clever mortar
Container
Sane: OS and Container
Ok if you're a Linux admin: Core
Just say no: Supervised
forest edge
those court recorder keyboards are gross. i dunno how people can go from that to a normal keyboard then back again throughout the day
low harness
Support coverage for supervised assumes you're not using the host for anything else anyway, so 🤷
forest edge
didn't tediore go all supervised and bragged about it?
clever mortar
Nope
forest edge
oh i thought he did after going core
clever mortar
Container
velvet horizonBOT
molten osprey
Last I tried, OS meant i had zero access to the underlying system and all i could do was run add-ons. I would, for example, not be able to put it in multiple VLANs this way 🙂
forest edge
oh snap
clever mortar
Then head over to #general-archived
We can help you there to find the way that suits you
molten osprey
Oh no .... wasnt here to discuss that 🙂
Thanks 🙂
I'm fine with supervised for the moment. When I face a reinstall, I'll consider the options again 🙂
hushed basalt
Doubt it'd be any good for coding, since you often want made up words for variab...
I did see a guy using one of these for coding once
It would be an enormous learning curve though
deft pewter
That's nuts. I can barely code on a real keyboard 😅
forest edge
looked like all he was doing was pressing the same 8 buttons at the same time
glacial knot
deft pewter
I'm just waiting for access to Copilot, then I won't even need to know how to code.
glacial knot
you mean, randomzied copy+paste from stackoverflowgithub?
low harness
fathom sparrow
Sane: OS and Container
Ok if you're a Linux admin: Core
Just say no: Supervised
psh, there are benefits to supervised if you stick to the rules
I'll release it from my fingers once I can set up mounted drives for HassOS and access hidden config files for containers (Like the fucking zwave cache & machine files that are STILL inaccessible).
clever mortar
I can count the number of people who stick to the rules on the fingers of one hand, and have some left over
deft pewter
So it shares the same benefits as container and a load of potential issues on top? 😄
fathom sparrow
I don't have to maintain the containers or thier upgrade process
it's ultimate lazyness
I also stick to the rules
I literally only use it for what I said above
If zwave had a way to access machine files and we could mount a network drive into the media or backup directory...
no reason for supervisor
convincing people to give us that ability has proven difficult
dusky plank
i feel the urgent need for . topic
but I‘m on petro‘s side… supervised offers some decent features on top of os
fathom sparrow
I've written up these 2 issues ~3 years ago
clever mortar
Drive mounting seems to be a very popular request... for as long as HAOS/Hassio has been around 
fathom sparrow
is that sarcasm?
clever mortar
Nope
fathom sparrow
well then I'm not sure what the damn problem is
clever mortar
That's an observation
fathom sparrow
it's going to be my next WTF month WTF
clever mortar
As in, people would love it, and don't have it, so .... 
fathom sparrow
the zwave thing falls on def ears
cache was available for zwave legacy, I have no idea why it's hidden now, same with the machine files
"Hey lets make it so you can't fix your device and have to wait 4 months for a PR to come through"
orchid rose
Didn't they close all those down in Australia?
young sigil
Only on the disease ridden mainland.
shy comet
man I woke up to the most random issue today...Nvidia shield decided it no longer wants to output PCM audio lol
last cedar
Updated last night? @shy comet
shy comet
there was a android tv core update and rolled it back but no luck
usually when something random like this happens its the cable
but i never seen PCM stopping while everything else works
mind you id rather have anything but PCM but not everything is in better quality
shy comet
weird the volume level setting changed, had to switch back to CEC to regain PCM
deft pewter
You're welcome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBCBv1O_Xi4
It's not my favourite Disney film but it's probably got one of the best soundtracks.
I'm sure Tinkerer will correct me though 😂
clever mortar
Eh, I enjoyed the music for sure
But then... bits out of Moana, and others, are all good
deft pewter
Yeah, Moana's up there in my favourites too. In no particular order: Moana, Mulan (OG), Aladdin (new, minus the stupid song they added for Jasmine), Lion King (OG), Princess and the Frog.
Will Smith as Genie was amazing, both the acting and singing.
clever mortar
I haven't seen that yet, must do so
Seeing the making of the original blew me away with how much Robin Williams just went with it 😄
deft pewter
I don't like many of the remakes but Aladdin was well done.
Mulan was... meh. The deviated a lot from the original, so it may not live up to your expectations.
clever mortar
I don't mind remakes that make it their own
Simply repeating the last one... not so much
deft pewter
I'm the opposite. They ruined the nostalgia for me 😄
Though I suppose it depends how they make it their own. If we're talking about the Ghostbusters movie that flopped... well...
cedar chasm
Ghostbusters was fine imho; Can't really remember the plot though
It wasn't the Godfather Part 2 but it wasn't supposed to be
deft pewter
If it was fine, why'd it flop?
deft pewter
Nothing to do with having an all-female cast of B-lister comedians as the entire basis of the movie then? That's a relief.
cedar chasm
Is the problem that it was an all-female cast or that the comedians were all b-listers?
deft pewter
Yes
cedar chasm
Sorted, good job
deft pewter
Personally, half and half. I can't comment for everyone else that avoided it.
eager geyser
cedar chasm
It's not like it was the best movie ever, so I'm not going to spend much energy defending it
I suppose if people just won't see a Ghostbusters without Dan Akroyd and Rick Moranis, then fair enough, I suppose
deft pewter
I'm planning on seeing the next one...
Doesn't have the original cast, right? At least not all of them.
cedar chasm
I'm not dialed in, so didn't know about this
deft pewter
I think at least one of the original cast has a cameo. They're not main characters.
Sequels > remakes
cedar chasm
Godfather part 3, then 🙂
deft pewter
I don't get the reference 😄
cedar chasm
Deemed by many to be the weakest of the trilogy
Or rather, surprising to many that it is even part of the same trilogy
In the case of our topic, Ghostbusters: A movie being tacked on to the original run by way of a cameo appearance; I'm not going to go in with the greatest of expectations but chances are I'll be mildly entertained
deft pewter
Except the new Ghostbusters isn't 'tacked on'. It's a logical followup.
cedar chasm
Well, good then.
hot merlin
Logical in that no one seems to remember that ghosts were a real thing? 🤔
cedar chasm
Perfectly logical, just like how the bible also describes how people forget about "god" during the good times and come crawling back once shit hits the fan
it's a trope as old as, well, the old testament
deft pewter
Never forget Dog. Dog is everything.
cedar chasm
We love to forget; it's how we can charge forward to the future with no thought of repercussions
hushed basalt
Moana didn't actually do that well at the box office
Monsters University and Big Hero 6 made more, which surprised me
Zootopia earnt nearly double
deft pewter
Yeah but those are just for kids.
I'm talking about real Disney, which is for anyone born before 1990.
Hell, Tinkerer is probably old enough to remember The Legend of Lobo
cedar chasm
If Donald Duck isn't fighting in the pacific, it's not real Disney
deft pewter
And if you can't whistle the Steamboat Willie theme, you're not a real fan.
clever mortar
Yeah but those are just for kids.
Big kid checking in. Loved MU, BH6, and Zootopia too 😛
Mind you, there's very little Disney I don't enjoy
deft pewter
Even Lobo?
clever mortar
If it's animated, it's probably good 😄
cedar chasm
My favorite Disney film growing up was Dumbo, so I was sad to learn that it's full of damaging stereotypes 😦
clever mortar
(don't actually remember Lobo, but I've watched so much over the years)
clever mortar
My favorite Disney film growing up was Dumbo, so I was sad to learn that it's fu...
Eh, most films and even TV shows suffer from that - you just don't always see it until later
deft pewter
Sometimes you don't see it unless you're looking for it...
deft pewter
And some people look really hard, just so they have something to be offended about.
cedar chasm
I'm not applying for beatification or anything
I'll try to do alright in my own life
deft pewter
Deification or bust.
deft pewter
That'll do fine. I enjoy holding people under water.
cedar chasm
whenever they don't read the docs before asking in channel
deft pewter
And sometimes even if they do
clever mortar
whenever they don't read the docs before asking in channel
So... 90% of posters then 🤔
cedar chasm
So... 90% of posters then 🤔
deft pewter
That's a skinnier, younger, sexier Tinkerer 😮
cedar chasm
Scariest man in fake politics
deft pewter
What show is that?
deft pewter
Cheers. Might check it out, I'm running out of things to watch again.
cedar chasm
first two seasons are only 3 eps each, so it's a fairly small time investment to see if it's for you
deft pewter
That makes it an easier sell. I'm not usually a comedy fan... just curious to see what Capaldi's like in it.
wintry hazel
dangit. I got up to fault find why my voice command couldn't turn on my light this morning and it looks like my 2.4ghz wireless radio fell off in the night, and smart lights are the only thing in the house that can't failover to 5ghz
deft pewter
Smart
Can't do 5GHz
wintry hazel
yeah, all the Tuya-based products in australia have a little note that says "if you are using 5ghz, please use 2.4"
deft pewter
That's quite common for cheaper/older gear. Dual-band is quite new.
(as in last 5 or so years, anyway)
wintry hazel
won't be a problem once I get up and go get my test device for clipsal iconic. Those use zigbee
deft pewter
Zigbee ftw 🎉
wintry hazel
I am probably going to be such a pain in that channel once I start. Googling that exact product has only yielded people asking if it works and never following up whether they got it going hahah
so what's new mono?
chilly nymph
My son: begs me all day to play Xbox with him.
5 minutes in after work: "Dad, if I wanted to play with someone that couldn't hit head shots, I would have just plugged in a second controller and left it on the ground...
I think he's telling me to git gud
deft pewter
I think he's telling me to git gud
chilly nymph
He's 7 ☠️
forest edge
make him go outside
wintry hazel
xbox controllers have decent wireless ranges these days, he could actually go play outside
chilly nymph
Too young to have him go outside by himself in the city
peak mountain
Hey, we have threads now!
subtle pasture
Yeah, but they're non-persistent
I haven't seen anyone really want to use them, because the conversation vanishes later
forest edge
if you join it, it remains on the channel listing as well as shows at the top
wintry hazel
It might be good for support questions because it makes the chain collapsible and might cure people's pinging habits?
forest edge
it really just seems like a group DM that anyone can access and join to me
peak mountain
if you join it, it remains on the channel listing as well as shows at the top
I thought that showed for everyone, thank god
wintry hazel
never mind
forest edge
no that sidebar link only shows for those who actually joined the thread
wintry hazel
I like it. It could make certain chats and supports a lot neater. Probably won't though
peak mountain
I like it. It could make certain chats and supports a lot neater. Probably won't...
discord in a nutshell
wintry hazel
wait, can a person helping/replying make a thread off the other person's question? that means it still might work
peak mountain
I think the bot integration will really be the most interesting
discord.js will support it in v13, and I'm looking forward to seeing what comes out of taht
*of that
like tickets, etc
forest edge
it's good I suppose if you know you will have to go down a rabbit hole helping someone.
many diffrent conversations in this server can span over days etc
peak mountain
Yep! And then others can help, without it clogging up the channel
wintry hazel
It could also keep the questions closer on one page, for those ones that get asked enough times that you guys get annoyed hearing them again
peak mountain
Ooh, I can see bot integrations for that. Common question gets asked, bot replies in thread
wintry hazel
Automate helping!
peak mountain
Less channel clog is always good!
deft pewter
I thought that showed for everyone, thank god
You can see other active threads by hovering over the channel name. That way, you can discover threads that aren't archived yet but that you haven't already joined.
glacial knot
Hover on a phone?
deft pewter
You weirdos use this on a phone? 😂
midnight adder
which channel is most suited for hardware recommendations integrateable with HA?
midnight adder
I did, I expected that one to be more for hardware tinkering with tasmota and such
clever mortar
That'd be #diy-archived - as mentioned in the channel's topic
midnight adder
but since I am looking for a camera, would #cameras-archived be the right one?
midnight adder
last time I posted into the seemingly exact topic it was wrong 😉
glacial knot
When in doubt, use #general-archived (like the topic says)
brazen root
I'm wondering if anyone has a suggestion for this challenge. At work I want to process a bunch of daily images to measure the growth of some algae cultures that start out as a circle. There's 12 of them in each photo.
What is the easiest way to feed all images into a batch process? I'd image I can "set" the scale and size in the very first image and store it. I'm guessing I'd have to do some segmentation and ROI-detection.
I'm fairly new to Python, but would welcome suggestions here, unless there's an easier way with ImageJ/Fiji or something similar?
hushed basalt
Python is definitely a safe bet for something like that
Although imagej might be better
There's not too many data heavy people active here though
Probably better off asking a science/data community
5years old but still
dusky plank
hushed basalt
fallow fox
Anyone owning a house and using solar panels around? I know that things are most likely different around the world, but from an end-user perspective, hvow did you find installation? Is it cost effective for you? How much did "cool tech" and/or "environment" come into play when you decided to install solar panels? Anyone with experience installing panels and then selling the house later on? If so, did that affect the sale process??
We are considering installing solar panels at the house, but here in Norway they are not very widespread yet, and I have no one to discuss with...
clever mortar
Interestingly they're now the default on new build houses in the UK
fallow fox
Really? Thats very cool! So, there has to be "money in it", for all involved parties I suppose?
clever mortar
There's quite a few new build estates going up around us, and every house (or at least apparently every house) has them fitted
I'm betting it's now law, to force people to be more green
The offputting thing for me personally is a combo of roof faces the wrong damn way and cost and disruption
Now, if we also got some Tesla style storage batteries, that's a different game, but that's another mark in the cost column
fallow fox
So cost... That means it takes a long time for you to pay down the panels?
Disruption, in the installation process or a more aesthetically perspective?
clever mortar
Well, getting enough panels fitted to make it worthwhile will be expensive, since our roof is pretty much East/West aligned
So, their efficiency is down, and any we fit will be producing power for less than half the day
And yes, the install process. I don't really care what the roof looks like - I don't see it from inside the house
fallow fox
Someone thinks of their neighbours! 😛
clever mortar
Eh.... given the stuff neighbours have in their gardens solar panels that were neon pink wouldn't be a talking point for that long
It will certainly reach a point where it's worth it, we may just have to be creative
The neighbour behind us just finished building a shed in their garden, so they can watch TV.... 😕
fallow fox
wet pilot
with global interest rates as low as they are right now, rolling the cost of the panels and the deployment into the new build process would probably see returns pretty quickly
fallow fox
Thats creative for you! 🙂
wet pilot
~20k in a 30y mortgage is a drop in the bucket, especially at ~3% interest
clever mortar
Also a lot cheaper to build it in during construction than retro-fit
wet pilot
very true
fallow fox
You have 3% interest???
clever mortar
Heck, pretty soon they'll be only allowed to fit heat pumps (ASHP or GSHP) instead of gas boilers
wet pilot
heat pumps are pretty common states side. though you want the NG furnace for backup if it gets below freezing for long periods of time
clever mortar
Beyond the small combi-boiler setups all setups here have electric backups
wet pilot
electric backups are super gross
fallow fox
You're now talking of house heating via water...?
clever mortar
Yeah, that's normal in the UK
wet pilot
heat pumps are A/C systems run backwards
fallow fox
Yeah....
clever mortar
Radiators or under floor heating, none of this heating/cooling by air convection
fallow fox
Just a bit hard to follow.... It so different to here...
wet pilot
ah gotcha. US its primarily ducted
clever mortar
Warm air heating systems are pretty dated nowadays but can still be found in some older homes. They effectively work like air conditioning in reverse – heating rather than cooling.
🤣
Says one UK source
fallow fox
I feel like we skipped a part somewhere along the evolution of modern heating technologies.... Sort went right from an open fire to electrical heaters.....
wet pilot
lol if its above freezing Heat Pumps are the most efficient form of heating
clever mortar
Heat pump + underfloor for heating and cooling
wet pilot
"take heat from outside, put it inside"
"but its really cold outside!" "not colder than refrigerant"
clever mortar
Also with GSHP you're taking it from somewhere that's not so cold as outside, probably
wet pilot
the only reason it loses efficiency below freezing is because the condenser wants to ice over and the system has to flip back to A/C mode for a bit to melt it all off
bold vault
Anyone bought from OpenGarage recently? I placed an order and it didn't come with tracking...feels kinda weird
hot merlin
Anyone owning a house and using solar panels around? I know that things are most...
I'm in northern Canada and have had panels for 3 ish years now.
Cool tech and environmental reasons were like 50% of the reason.
It's a 6kW system, SolarEdge inverter, 11 year expected payback on what it cost.
last cedar
Odiv, not off grid though?
hot merlin
If we didn't have net metering here (where the power company credits us at retail for the power we send the grid) then it wouldn't have been worth it.
Yeah no batteries, 100% grid tied.
If the power goes out, then we have no power, even on sunny days.
Power here is about $0.25 a kWh.
So right now I'm getting a $20 power bill every month, just the connection fee. Then eventually around Nov or so my built up credit runs out. 😛
last cedar
I would love to go off grid. But like, Sweden isn't good for winters when it comes to sunshine
hot merlin
Yeah, I don't generate anything from late Oct to mid March. Or so.
If I was a bit better on the snow clearing I would make a little bit, but it's hard to motivate yourself to do like 2 hours of clearing for what might amount to like eight bucks.
last cedar
With electric car and such, it just isn't possible :(
hot merlin
Oh yeah no kidding.
last cedar
Would need a huge array of panels and batteries
hot merlin
How cold does it get there and how are you finding the electric car?
last cedar
Not got it yet, planning for future
hot merlin
Ah.
last cedar
Ordered a Octavia plug in Hybrid though
It gets down to about - 25C
I am about same "height" as Stockholm so it could be worse :)
hot merlin
I really like the panels, but yeah so far investing the money into the solar company would have been a way better spend. 🤔
last cedar
But realistically, would need a very energy efficient house with redundant heating from a wood burning stove
hot merlin
Still, nice to make physical improvements to one's house.
last cedar
Absolutely
hot merlin
Some places you're not allowed to be "off grid".
last cedar
I move in 16th august. Bought a gigantic project :D
hot merlin
Yep. I am toying with the idea of building a small system in my shed.
With batteries.
Power outages here are not infrequent, especially in the summer.
last cedar
They are super expensive though :(
hot merlin
But I think it would be too much hassle to actually use that power.
A small system wouldn't be that much, but yeah to actually make it the backup power for my server and networking gear would be too much trouble, I think.
@fallow fox feel free to ask any questions. I might even have an answer.
green pilot
Hi 😊
fallow fox
<@331329473670545409> feel free to ask any questions. I might even have an answe...
@hot merlin Hey! I feel like the two discussions that came on the back of my question did answer a few things. I have put to rest any thought of storing energy myself at least! 😉
green pilot
Guess who bought a house and can do all the home automation things from scratch 😏
glacial knot
LTT Linus
fallow karma
Anyone is master of google spreadsheets??
i want to allow to input only 8 digit long value. How to do that?
i got it. value between 10000000 and 99999999
low harness
\d{8}
deft pewter
I used to hate RegEx until I forced myself to work with it. It's often way more elegant to use it than to code a functionality equivalent alternative.
I wish I'd found out about JavaScript's named RegEx captures sooner too. Together with object destructuring, those are amazing.
@fallow karma is the puzzled face because you don't know what that means?
cedar chasm
Regular Expressions? 😄
deft pewter
Well... yeah... but I meant the expression that Thomas gave in particular 😂
cedar chasm
8 digits 8️⃣ 8️⃣8️⃣
deft pewter
RegEx are so simple. This is the official one to match RFC5322 compliant email addresses:
(?:[a-z0-9!#$%&'*+/=?^_`{|}~-]+(?:\.[a-z0-9!#$%&'*+/=?^_`{|}~-]+)*|"(?:[\x01-\x08\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x1f\x21\x23-\x5b\x5d-\x7f]|\\[\x01-\x09\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x7f])*")@(?:(?:[a-z0-9](?:[a-z0-9-]*[a-z0-9])?\.)+[a-z0-9](?:[a-z0-9-]*[a-z0-9])?|\[(?:(?:25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.){3}(?:25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?|[a-z0-9-]*[a-z0-9]:(?:[\x01-\x08\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x1f\x21-\x5a\x53-\x7f]|\\[\x01-\x09\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x7f])+)\])
fallow karma
<@!132797827230334976> is the puzzled face because you don't know what that mean...
you're right
deft pewter
you're right
\d means any numeric character (0-9)
{8} means match the thing before it exactly 8 times
If you ever need to read a RegEx pattern, www.regex101.com is great.
It'll explain what the pattern does, and also gives you a space to paste in stuff and see what matches and what doesn't. I use it all the time.
fallow karma
Knowledge ,where to find information is pricesless
deft pewter
Indeed. That's why I'm paid so much for knowing what to Google.
fallow karma
Indeed. That's why I'm paid so much for knowing what to Google.
You're right. It's good to have a black belt in google
subtle pasture
That's one for the resume, honestly
"Highly proficient with Google, StackOverflow, etc."
static schooner
Or an interview question: solve this using Google
deft pewter
I didn't particularly enjoy having to do whiteboard exercises in my recent round of interviews... but I did like that they cared more about how you found the answer than whether you'd memorised it.
I Googled gratuitously in all of them and got great feedback.
forest edge
This 100F heat can suck it.. go away summer
hollow glacier
This 100F heat can suck it.. go away summer
Texas checking in- yep, it’s hot
velvet horizonBOT
deft pewter
That's string vest weather right there.
🎵 Bilbo... Bilbo Baggins... He's only three feet tall 🎵
tidal bronze
This 100F heat can suck it.. go away summer
🤔
forest edge
@tidal bronzeyou sure do alot of thinking anymore
tidal bronze
I was thinking about all these fires and blah blah in Cali and you have 100 degree weather. Hmm
forest edge
oh you mean how's probably like closer to 200F around you?
are your poor lawn speakers melting?
tidal bronze
Sweet 85
forest edge
that where the needle melted?
tidal bronze
So it's 100F and humid in Kansas City huh 💩
forest edge
44% so not quite feeling like trying to breathe under the ocean yet but it still sucks
tidal bronze
It's been a toasty summer all across.
forest edge
all across? you bastards escape the shit you create because of how the wind blows from west to east
i am surprised there hasn't been talks of nuking your state yet just to elevate some of the problems you asshats bring onto the rest of us lol
deft pewter
Forecast here tomorrow is 86% humidity... can't remember the last time I saw a day under 80%.
It's not as hot here... but the humidity sucks.
tidal bronze
Just left east coast, yep it was shitty🤣
forest edge
yea east coast gets it from everyone west of them lol
friend in jersey bitches about 100F and 90% humidity all the time
like living in @dull chasm town
tidal bronze
It's not as hot here... but the humidity sucks.
Can take any temp but not humidity, no way.
Was 92 and freaking humid in NY, didn't even go outside for a smoke. Disaster
forest edge
sounds more like karma
tidal bronze
But then, they think it's a beautiful summer. SMH
forest edge
may your flight home carry that enviroment with you back to your torched state
tidal bronze
4 x Gin an tonic washes all that away
forest edge
is that why you always drink? can't handle the reality of the environment of everywhere else beside your speaker infested home?
tidal bronze
Yep 💯
I try not to go anywhere in the summer but unfortunately work makes me. I see people in FL at a beach in the summer and want to file my teeth.
forest edge
on the beach isn't bad. the direct air from the ocean balances it out. it's just far away enough from the ocean where that wind is blocked it becomes a shit show
tidal bronze
Nope not in FL. It's a shitshow 24/7
forest edge
I didn't think it was too bad back in 2003 when I went to disney
deft pewter
Orlando is always humid 🤢
tidal bronze
I went to Disney FL for like 2 hours next 7 days inside my room. No thank you.
tidal bronze
People pay money to feel that shitty all day. 🤯
forest edge
worst place i ever been was like Mississippi
every other coastal state was tolerable
Galveston Texas was even ok
forest edge
well you were obviously born in a vacuum and your poor delicate skin can't handle the harsh environment of the outside cali planet
nope never been to the west coast at all
tidal bronze
We should revisit this after you do.
forest edge
the grand canyon was as close as I got lol
tidal bronze
Ouch AZ
Once you get used to low humidity takes about month or two not to sweat like a nut job in most these other places.
forest edge
well you can get use to high humidity and not sweat as well lol
i doubt vasily is always looking like
tidal bronze
That's me always in east coast 😆
tidal bronze
well you can get use to high humidity and not sweat as well lol
But what about damn pollen allergies, bugs, mosquitoes etc etc. 🤧
forest edge
they help distract from the temps and humidity lol
tidal bronze
Lmao. None of that crap here. 😄
forest edge
you have insects there lol
you guys get all the worst crap that has stingers and such lol
tidal bronze
Not LA we don't even think about that stuff. Bees yeah
forest edge
wasp
tidal bronze
Hmm never encountered or heard.
forest edge
you have them
you get yellow jackets
which are the worst ones
and you even have those hawk wasp things
tidal bronze
Show me one day when you visit here.
forest edge
show you? look up info on your own state lol
tidal bronze
Oh you mean state of California 🤣 dude. Wake up.
wintry hazel
meanwhile, amercians be like "Australia has everything evil in it"
forest edge
I swear, does your housing community sp[ray the surrounding areas like they do at Disney? there has to be something taken place just outside your view that is keeping you from seeing all this shit lmao
tidal bronze
meanwhile, amercians be like "Australia has everything evil in it"
Everything is acceptable, not humidity 😄
wintry hazel
Yeah, a lot of city planning used to involve concrete everything and only later did people figure out that big wind blocks and all hard surfaces basically bounce around and trap heat in the place you keep all your people
I don't know if it applies to your locality but I have found any places with more green stuff starts to feel better when subjected to similar weather conditions
tidal bronze
I doubt green solves humidity issue.
wintry hazel
I mean, if it gives it less reflected heat to imbue it with all of your problems
some places can have high humidity on a colder day and you'd be less inclined to hate it
forest edge
wind is key to humidity
wintry hazel
moisture too
forest edge
yea but hot and humid with no wind is fucking death. with wind you can actually bare it
tidal bronze
West coast solves all this. No need to scratch heads and run algorithms. It's crispy and fresh always. 😀
wintry hazel
apparently the humidity here atm is 69% and I had to tell you that so I could say "nice"
forest edge
West coast solves all this. No need to scratch heads and run algorithms. It's cr...
till the poles reverse then you will suffer what the east coast has been for years
tidal bronze
Isn't it too early to be thinking about poles 🤔
forest edge
where is your head at? i don't want to know
wintry hazel
I have a couple of friends who are always thinking or posting to social media about poles. It's a sport now
apparently*
tidal bronze
@forest edge thinking about grilling something as soon as I get home.
wintry hazel
wintry hazel
I bought an ebook bundle on humble and for a change I hit bulk download by torrent thinking it would have the entire thing built into one, or tier collections; but instead my browser just downloaded 50 individual files that I then have to open...
wintry hazel
yum. what's a poivre?
forest edge
those rabbit droppings?
wintry hazel
those are bubble tea balls
tidal bronze
Lol. Steak with green peppercorn sauce.
forest edge
typical 5 star cali plate decor
forest edge
I swear you all live your life by those cooking competition shows lol
tidal bronze
Somewhat true. 🤣
wintry hazel
I mean if it's got what it needs to sustain you and tastes good it's probably not a bad way to live
forest edge
30% of my dinners are eaten off a paper plate simply because I don't want to wash anything
hushed basalt
You know they have these new machines that can wash dishes for you
tidal bronze
I mean if it's got what it needs to sustain you and tastes good it's probably no...
Any sauce made with flambeed cognac is always good. 😄
forest edge
closest thing to fancy sauce around here comes tossed in the bag with the food and requires you to peel the tab top off
hushed basalt
tidal bronze
I make all from scratch. Other than tapatio ,Tabasco and cholula
forest edge
life is too short for that nonsense
tidal bronze
https://c.tenor.com/GftYN5SV9ZEAAAAM/this-is-america-childish.gif
Yep this IS
forest edge
Well you gotta be good at making stuff if to make sense. 😆
now i know where that slogan comes from where they say, "Eat more and weigh less" the food you eat is actually eating you from the inside lmao
tidal bronze
Lol. Weigh less, now thats the problem.
rancid zephyr
I did the thing!
umbral agate
bro
tame sand
So essentially he is sponsoring github? Does github take a cut?
glacial knot
That’s how you clean money
umbral agate
So essentially he is sponsoring github? *Does github take a cut?*
i think they do, not sure tho
well github themselves are sponsoring him?
tf
dusky plank
afaik the top 10 projects get some github love, ha being one of them and this balloob dude has obviously something to do with it
deft pewter
C'mon, Frenck. Why not top 5?
tame sand
the first guy is automatically coauthor in every commit to some repositories... how does this even work?
tame sand
he has 2490 commits in one day.
deft pewter
I guess they have pipelines set up that commit from their account. That's one of the reasons stats like that aren't important.
It's not a sign that he's a good/regular contributor. Anyone could automate that shit.
Frenck, on the other hand... he's genuinely active. He has his hands in so many projects.
clever mortar
orchid rose
I modified a 230V bulb to work at 12V by removing the transformer inside. Once the smoke cleared, I opened it up to see it clearly stated 5V inside 🤦♂️
last cedar
Hahaha
naive olive
Happy to know I'm not the only one who did that
lament coral
Hey guys, I'm looking for a solution for my wifi at home.
Currently in the process of getting (somewhat) enterprise grade hardware, esp for networking.
Gonna move my HA from my mini PC to a real server.
lament coral
Hey guys, I'm looking for a solution for my wifi at home.
Currently in the proce...
The start gonna be a Sophos XG 135 which I'll flash with OPNsense.
But I am still not settled on what to go for for the Switches and WAPs.
clever mortar
Lots of factors at play. Budget. Property size. Requirements. Country...
lament coral
The start gonna be a Sophos XG 135 which I'll flash with OPNsense.
But I am stil...
Thought about mikrotik (and also going for 10G via fiber but tbh there is no reason). Already overkill that I got a server and also a server cabinet lul
clever mortar
Do you want a single AP, multiple, mesh?
lament coral
Lots of factors at play. Budget. Property size. Requirements. Country...
And ofc ubiquiti.
clever mortar
clever mortar
And ofc ubiquiti.
lament coral
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Yeah, same here but I mean their stuff is soo easy, but tbh, I don't even need super easy, as I also want to learn more about networking. Sys admin here
clever mortar
@lament coral
@lament coral
@lament coral don't tag
@lament coral
@lament coral
@lament coral thanks
lament coral
Sorry
clever mortar
I continue to be shocked at how even the damn GIF doesn't make the point to people about that
So.... answers to the questions above ?
lament coral
12h of work today 😫 I know no excuse
clever mortar
Sucks to be you
😛
lament coral
I have a Maisonette. My Fritzbox, quite good router very popular in Germany.
But the connection In my bedroom is.. not good which is unacceptable. Also, the Fritzbox can't do VLANs which I want as I want to separate my smarthome stuff from my other stuff. Also want a guest Network etc
clever mortar
So, a single centrally located AP may well do you then
lament coral
Budget.. hard to say, I am not fixed, but under 1k€ would be cool. Doesn't have to be new either.
clever mortar
WiFi ... 5/6/6e/whatever?
lament coral
The AP is quite central. A second AP and the wifi coverage would solve the range Problem, but yeah, I wanna go a bit ham. Also to learn stuff.
WiFi version, does it even matter? I only have my phone and my notebook in the wifi and I am not pushing that much data. And of course my ESPs and yeelights.
My current router is running wifi 5 and it works quite well, so wifi 5 would be more than fine
I need a few switches.
At least one of them should be able to be rack mounted for my server cabinet.
But the others can be 8 ports desktop switches
subtle pasture
I'm running Cisco SG200, SG250, and SG300 series switches throughout the house, very happy with them
lament coral
Mikrotik Looks very appealing, especially price/"hardware value" wise
subtle pasture
How many ports you looking for on the larger switches?
lament coral
What are you using for wifi? Cisco APs?
subtle pasture
Aruba APs for WiFi
lament coral
Well, hard to tell. I will need like 10 for the start, but I want 24 ports at least.
Well, 24 ports should be enough for like forever
clever mortar
24 ports suddenly get all filled 😄
lament coral
But maybe I want to do a Link Aggregation
subtle pasture
Worth a look. That's a fully managed L3 switch ^
lament coral
Thought so to, so if a 48 port isn't that more expensive
Can you centrally manage the WAPs
clever mortar
Cisco stuff is ... not terrible, but Mikrotik is good enough for home use (and some) and a lot cheaper 😛
subtle pasture
Is Mikrotik really cheaper?
subtle pasture
Also this ^
Most of my Cisco switches were bought on ebay for less than half their retail price
lament coral
If you buy new, Well, just look at their Website. You'd assume it is a bad joke
subtle pasture
The only one bought new was an SG250-10P, because that's a specialty part
bitter pawn
cisco stuff gets sold dirt cheap due to the firmware paywall
similar to the HP Gen9 stuff
subtle pasture
There's no firmware paywall on the SG series switches, actually
They're small-business, not enterprise
bitter pawn
ah there ya go
lament coral
I want to learn more about networking... And also get knowledge... Which I could use at work... No company uses mikrotik.
bitter pawn
that you know of.
lament coral
What do you use at home @bitter pawn ?
clever mortar
Then Cisco or Juniper are reasonable choices, though I'd personally go Cisco
bitter pawn
i have a pair of brocades at home
clever mortar
TBH, learn how networks work and then it's just implementation details
bitter pawn
its like what, 80% of servers are linux based right?
clever mortar
It's like learning to use another *nix flavour, not that hard once you learn one
bitter pawn
so you'd think that most server work you'd fine in a small-medium city would be linux right?
clever mortar
Windows
bitter pawn
at my last job it was only windows servers we were working on and installing
so its meh
lament coral
Well, I got more than the basics. But I kinda never had the chance to try stuff out.
My apprenticeship company didn't want seperated Networks. Boss knew everything better.
The job I worked before had its own network department
My current job has it sourced out lul
bitter pawn
my take is, learn on the stuff that will do what you want it to.
lament coral
And a consumer Router won't do that. Also non managed Switches won't do that.
bitter pawn
there are advantages to managed switches
no one is debating that
just brand preference is kinda meh
lament coral
Nothing against the Fritzbox. It is the best Router you can get in Germany.
clever mortar
I learned networking basics before I touched Cisco, having learned Cisco it was easy enough to manage Mikrotik and other brands
bitter pawn
because my brocade will route traffic similarly to that cisco, just like a zyxel. only difference is how you tell it to do it.
and with varying performance
subtle pasture
so you'd think that most server work you'd fine in a small-medium city would be ...
Nah, I work at an MSP in California. We almost exclusively manage Windows servers for our clients...
clever mortar
bitter pawn
nods
subtle pasture
Nobody wants to pay the premium for a Linux sysadmin. lol
bitter pawn
windows servers are evil.
but yeah linux sysadmins are more evil.
trololololololz xD
clever mortar
Yes, yes we are
lament coral
I really have to say, the way of ubiquiti is super sexy, if you get a dream machine you can manage |everything from one gui, but this is the easy mode.
clever mortar
If you want to learn how to drive networking kit, don't use the UIs
subtle pasture
I've had pushback just getting our engineers to embrace Windows Server Core, let alone Linux
And Server Core is actually pretty nice if you're comfortable with the command line
Or, hell, connect the management tools installs on a full-fat Windows install to your core instance. Boom, GUI management with no GUI on the server
Now, that said, I've been slowly replacing any server in our own internal infrastructure I can with RHEL. I call it "operation job security"
lament coral
I'd like to have a central solution to manage my wifi, that you can only find with ubiquiti, so I gave up on that. Also, I kinda have it, my opnsense
subtle pasture
@lament coral Check out Aruba IAP series WAPs
lament coral
@subtle pasture will do!
subtle pasture
They have an integrated controller, and will cluster together for high-availability of the controller
lament coral
How is it with AP "Roaming". I mean, every consumer brand offers those mesh stuff.
lament coral
They have an integrated controller, and will cluster together for high-availabil...
Ahh, like this?