#the-water-cooler

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clear ferry
last cedar
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Different angle. Camera is no longer there

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Optiplex is my opnsense/ pihole machine

deft pewter
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If you squint a little, that looks tidy.

last cedar
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Yeah, as a thumbnail

deft pewter
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Zoom

last cedar
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If you make it full screen you would have to be blind to think it looks tidy

clear ferry
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Oh the classic fat small girl rack angle shot

last cedar
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😂

clear ferry
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Love the cough syrup

last cedar
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Good thing it wasn't a laxative or lube or something

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Would have been awkward

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But yeah, all that is being moved to a rack :)

tidal bronze
clear ferry
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🤢

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Zip ties are disgusting

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Long live velcro

last cedar
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Nice guitars Atx :)

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Zip ties have many uses

clear ferry
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Aggressive law enforcement in a police state

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Yeah

tidal bronze
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Here we go with the 2021 worldview 🤣

last cedar
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I was thinking other things, but yes Atx :)

clear ferry
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Well, if you want to be a police officer

deft pewter
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I go back on Monday and I haven't even started tidying 😄

clear ferry
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@deft pewter I have bought two new monitors and two new drawer sections for my desk this Christmas

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I'm ready

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Already have an electric adjustable desk and a backapp chair

deft pewter
clear ferry
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🍆

clear ferry
last cedar
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@clear ferry at some point you will have to show me your guitar collection!

clear ferry
scenic radish
dull chasm
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@clear ferry are u sure your norwat you know too much stuff

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about the greatest place on the planet

clear ferry
dull chasm
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you can have him

cedar chasm
clear ferry
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I find that interesting since I don't know a single person who uses Twitter actively

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cedar chasm
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Maybe they are bots, then

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Or social science majors

deft pewter
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I started to use Twitter to follow accounts I was interested in. Mostly as a way of having a customised news feed for tech/programming stuff.

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But like every social network, it always devolves into fucking memes and pictures of food.

light trout
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I get most if not all of my news consumption from Twitter, when an account starts posting things i don't care for I just stop following that account

clever mortar
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So, you don't follow anything any more 🤔

light trout
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Some, not that much

deft pewter
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Not following an account doesn't stop you seeing crap in your feed though. You're forced to scroll through content that your followees interact with, which is often still memes and food photos.

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I've started blocking accounts that post stuff I don't want to see... but that's probably futile, since there are way too many accounts 😄

light trout
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That will not fly in my feed, those get booted

night zodiac
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The only time I am on twitter is to see if a service is down for other people as well.

deft pewter
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Algorithms can be so useful... until businesses use them to target you.

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I friggin hate algorithms now.

clear ferry
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I would probably say.... The only ones who use Twitter here are millennials, and most of them to selfwank celebrities

last dirge
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I'm gettin good at this photography thing

clear ferry
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You are gonna have a blasting career as a stock photographer

tidal bronze
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@last dirge nicely done

clear ferry
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Woops, 6 more AliExpress orders today

last cedar
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@clear ferry ty for the tip!!!!

deft pewter
clear ferry
deft pewter
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So... how do you nerds keep your LEGO organised?

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I'm not talking sets, just the loose stuff.

clear ferry
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Just glue them together

deft pewter
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That'll work great. Until I want to build something different.

clever mortar
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Boxes, many many many many many boxes

last cedar
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Lego you say....

clever mortar
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Nothing half as organised as that though, they're basically large plastic crates

deft pewter
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Oh. I remember my parents used to throw all my childhood LEGO into giant crates. I hated it. Can never find anything.

last cedar
deft pewter
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I want to be half-organised this time.

orchid rose
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These are way too neat, wtf

deft pewter
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A dedicated LEGO cupboard, Michelle? I love it.

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Doesn't look like your house though.

last cedar
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Not messy enough to be our house?

clever mortar
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I've got probably 5 or 6 crates about 40l in size each with assorted lego in each, plus a few other boxes of "bits"

last cedar
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After you saw my cabling?

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We have some lego here at home

deft pewter
last cedar
clear ferry
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What in tarnation

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This doesn't look like a trash can

last cedar
deft pewter
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That's a lot of LEGO 😮

last cedar
clear ferry
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Is your partner tiny?

deft pewter
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And a baby raccoon?

clear ferry
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Or is that a child?

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🤏 🤏 🤏

last cedar
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That is a child

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I live in this familys trash

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I can show you my room

clear ferry
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I had a friend of mine who was 149.5cm, note the 0.5

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She was tiny

last cedar
clear ferry
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That is more like it

last cedar
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This is my room

deft pewter
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Forbidden snacks.

last cedar
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There are 13 of those ccabinets with lego in

clear ferry
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Realistic👏 images 👏 from 👏 racoons👏

last cedar
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And on top of

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That ship is silent mary from pirates. Was fun to build

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Also....

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Not built

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And, confession time

clear ferry
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I bought my wife this, she loved it

deft pewter
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My missus has the mini version of that. Nanoblocks are fun.

last cedar
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More unbuilt lego

clear ferry
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Are you sure you are in Sweden?

last cedar
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I have a problem

clear ferry
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And not Denmark?

last cedar
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😂

deft pewter
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She's got a direct supply from the factory.

last cedar
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I am only said I didn't get the Wall E lego

deft pewter
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I thought the confession was going to be that she was the child.

last cedar
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Noes

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Child seems friendly

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Gives me snacks and belly rubs

clear ferry
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Should I print you this ?

last cedar
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😍 😍 😍 😍

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If you want the job of posting it, I will gladly pay whatever it costs to print and post :D

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Looks awesome

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And they put the TP the right way ❤️

deft pewter
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Bring back the death sentence for anyone putting TP down the back.

last cedar
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@deft pewter we are all lego nerds in the family. She has all elves and is working on all the friends sets.

I used to collect technic sets. Got this hanging from ceiling atm

clever mortar
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All our toilet roll holders are vertical, so there's a whole new world of which way is right 🤣

last cedar
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It has to "fall over"

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Anything else is death sentence worthy

deft pewter
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If they're upright, that's just storage. Gotta be horizontal to count as a dispenser.

clear ferry
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I can print anything anyone wants if they pay me for it

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🐔

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Except@clever mortar

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He gets it for free

deft pewter
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I'd love to start collecting Technic again but it's so damned expensive.

clear ferry
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🧙‍♂️

deft pewter
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I never appreciated the cost of LEGO when my family bought it for me as a kid.

last cedar
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Can you work out what it would cost for one? Absolutely no rush

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It didn't used to be "that exoensive"

clear ferry
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Remind me on Monday

clever mortar
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Meccano is what I moved to "after" Lego, while still keeping the Lego 😄

last cedar
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That space shuttle was 80 quid back when I was a kid

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Now the big technic sets are like 400

deft pewter
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But £80 was a lot back in the 50's.

last cedar
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OOF

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I am not as old as Atx, jeez!

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Yeah, no ask I typed that, I realised that 20 to 25 years ago, 80 quid was actually a lot

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Silent mary was 1800 sek iirc

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On black friday :/

deft pewter
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Yeah. It's funny thinking that £80 is cheap, then remembering decades of inflation 🤣

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LEGO's never really been cheap though.

last cedar
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No, it hasn't. But always good quality. Spent hours building stuff :D

clear ferry
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Wtf, are you guys old shaming me again

last cedar
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Sorry :)

clear ferry
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Y'all gonna laugh when you figure out I'm 22

deft pewter
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36...

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😄

clear ferry
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rubber_duck 🇺

deft pewter
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you're just a really old-looking 36.

last cedar
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22, damn!

deft pewter
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How old are you though, atx?

clear ferry
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My wife says 96

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My papers say 36

deft pewter
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Yeah. I'm sure you'd said before.

last cedar
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So you are not that old at all

clever mortar
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He just acts it 😛

clear ferry
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🧙‍♂️

last cedar
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When I say you are old, I am 33, so technically you are. But I am too haha

clear ferry
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I started working at age 9 and dismantling computers at age 6

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I've been in the game for a while

last cedar
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Defo. I didn't build my own till I was 13

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Good old days of socket A

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Couldn't get it stable

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200Mhz RAM with 333Mhz FSB cpu

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You can guess where this is going

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They had to be in sync :/

night zodiac
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N'Sync

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bye bye bye

last cedar
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Haha

night zodiac
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I just realized the Hue switch I never use is supported by zigbee2mqtt. Yay, buttons.

last cedar
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Buttons are great, especially ones you can make do anything :D

night zodiac
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hell yeah.

last cedar
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I want one of those emergency stop buttons

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Somewhere in my house

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Like in a bathroom that does something really useless

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Would be fun

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People can't resist

night zodiac
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sprays the bidet at them

clear ferry
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It's easy to make useless buttons with ZigBee

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I do it often

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To my wife's dismay

night zodiac
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lollll

last cedar
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I have done that in the past

night zodiac
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working on that now

last cedar
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Not intentionally

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Just I am shit at yaml 😂

night zodiac
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This button will actually work well with the Movie and Music switches I have been adding

last cedar
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I am gonna need an emergency stop for UPS though, in the event of a fire though. Bang it into the EPO port

clever mortar
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TTS message of Stop pushing the button

last cedar
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But that won't have anything to do with HA

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😂

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That is smart actually

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Or maybe the quotes from portal

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In Glados voice

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I could almost do a portal themed house tbh

night zodiac
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I need a dedicated TTS google device for the kitchen. The kitchen display gets taken over too much.

clear ferry
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Reminds me, my wife wants me to build her a useless robot

night zodiac
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I can just scream it from another room, I guess

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atx, I thought that was you

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jk

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❤️

last cedar
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Useless robot? I really want to say she already has one, but

clear ferry
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useless_machine?wprov=sfla1

Useless machine

A useless machine, sometimes known as a "useless box", is a device which has a function but no direct purpose. It may be intended to make a philosophical point, as an amusing engineering "hack", or as an intellectual joke. Devices which have no function or which malfunction are not considered to be "useless machines".
The most well-known "useles...

last cedar
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Lol, someone beat me to it

night zodiac
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Does the new one get more settings?

last cedar
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Those boxes are really fun

night zodiac
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😛

last cedar
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This is why I need a house, all the projects

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Dedicated gaming/ lego room

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Is prio 1

night zodiac
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My storage room is a disaster right now

last cedar
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Garage, prio 2

night zodiac
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I need to get rid of an oven I bought a few months ago before I moved

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It is taking up too much space. either that or I can start selling crack cocaine

last cedar
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Got some jobs I need to do on the car that I can't do outside, if I can't get it back together under a day

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I mean, not having that at home is very useful Busheezy 😂

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Our neighbours above sell marijuana, that is bad enough

clear ferry
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I need a bigger house

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I want 450m2

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4800sqft

night zodiac
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I was going to bring it to my parents one day to store it but it didn't work out so now I have an extra oven in my storage room in my way

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I think I am going to rip through the room later and try and tidy it up, after a few drinks

last cedar
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Place I was looking at is 100+42 as 1.5 floors. Plus a cellar. We have 94 plus maybe 25 now in the cellar

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So would gain at least 60m2

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Sounds like a plan with the tidying up!

night zodiac
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It was perfect before the holidays

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some idiot bought a huge christmas tree

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and a telescope

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and a soundbar

last cedar
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I have to go through some stuff in our cellar, got 5 workstations to test, and my router to install and tinker with

night zodiac
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my soundbar came in a dick shaped box, pretty neat

last cedar
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Awkward if it is posted

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And gift wrapped

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"what does the box look like"

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"the huge penis"

night zodiac
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I actually kept trying to show my buddy the picture and auto correct made it from "sick" to "dick" multiple times and then i realized it is a dick shaped box

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phone is smarter than me

last cedar
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😂

night zodiac
last cedar
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I have a friend who got a box like that delivered. It wasn't a sound bar

night zodiac
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I had the bbiggest curiosity of how it would look too. Before it arrived, I was like, hrmm. That box is going to have a lot of wasted space.

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I was not expecting dick bbox

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dragon dildos are getting way too big

last cedar
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I can neither confirm or deny

fiery geyser
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Kinda suspicious

scenic radish
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li'l sus

night zodiac
last cedar
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🦝 is sus

scenic radish
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no u

fiery geyser
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Trash mammals are never sus

last cedar
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Trash mammals are the best mammals

night zodiac
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don't make me blush

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oh, not me

scenic radish
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i believe you mean trash panda

fiery geyser
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Nah, trash mammals, the friends that invade your garbage looking for tasty treats

clear ferry
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Oh my

scenic radish
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😂

clear ferry
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A contender has appeared

last cedar
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Garbage is the best

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We are best friends atx

scenic radish
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fite irl

clear ferry
fiery geyser
night zodiac
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my awake toggle works so nicely. wowwwwww. buttons.

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These docs say there are like 20 different possible states but I have figured out the basic 4

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this thing is lying

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This button is actually voodoo. I think if I am reading this correctly, it uses the nearby Hue Bridge to convert it to zigbbee even though it is on a different network? super weird.

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"This is a Zigbee Green Power device which allows it to be very energy efficient. Messages from Green Power devices cannot be “understood” by normal Zigbee devices, therefore they need to be “translated” first. Not all Zigbee devices can do this translation, currently the only devices known to do this are Philips Hue devices. This means that the Green Power device has to be in range of a Philips Hue device in order to use it."

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I wonder if it works on the other side of my house

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It did. yay

last cedar
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😂

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Goot job getting it working!

night zodiac
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Now I need to make my video/music toggles automagically do a bunch of things and I'll put those on the buttons

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developer tools doesn't have a refresh button hidden, right

last cedar
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Unsure. My version is so old. Looking forward to redoing my entire network :)

night zodiac
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haha

clear ferry
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Michelle, still running ha 0.56

last plaza
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@last dirge how the heck do you adjust the RH?

night zodiac
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What am I looking at?

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lube rack?

last plaza
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The up/down buttons won’t adjust

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That’s a dry cabinet @night zodiac

night zodiac
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I googled it. I thought I was crazy and seeing cameras and such

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I am not

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neat!

last plaza
night zodiac
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I imagine they are a necessity once you start buying the right shininess combos

storm summit
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This release has not introduced new integrations. ...I see 2021 is off to a good start ... heh

last plaza
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Folks need break too 😉

night zodiac
storm summit
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I wonder how long it has been where a release didnt have a new integration

night zodiac
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That is just a joke by the way. I didn't make that meme, lol

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It also has a lot of truth to it. I wouldn't want to add features around this time.

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now to add it to buttons

deft pewter
last cedar
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@night zodiac looks slick!

night zodiac
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one more button to use for something

last cedar
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@last plaza temp and humidity card on HA when? (for the cabinet!)

last plaza
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Yeah... got that one too.

night zodiac
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Maybe I should make the 4th button start spotify and music sync at the same time, lol

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sexy time button. I need fog machine and strobe lights though

clear ferry
night zodiac
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That show is hilarious, haha

clear ferry
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Damnit Colin Robinson

night zodiac
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yay, my automation to turn on tv, cast spotify, and enable light sync works

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I think I need to refactor a bit of things. I should put a lot more stuff in sccripts and just call the script. it will be cleaner

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meh, actually. fook it. it depends.

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I need to figure out why my soundbar keeps going to the wrong sound input

scenic radish
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Gremlins

last plaza
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What we do in shadows! Love the energy vampire concept!

night zodiac
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either my tv or my google tv is switching inputs on the turn-on

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and it is forwarding that trash to my soundbar

hushed basalt
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straya

deft pewter
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Huntsman?

hushed basalt
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I'd say so,

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I've seen a bigger one on the outside of the car,

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on the glass next to my wifes head,

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She screamed so loud at the lights people probably thought I was a serial killer

shy comet
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@night zodiac check the HDMI-CEC settings one of them coudl be causing a conflict...only one is needed to to power on/off

deft pewter
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I'd hate to see one of those in person, despite knowing they're not harmful.

shy comet
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let alone inside a moving car lol

deft pewter
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Exactly. I hate our tiny little English spiders enough 🤣

last plaza
night zodiac
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@shy comet I just did something scary. I hooked the TV update to the internet and I am doing an update.

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they have it all bundled in one setting :/ Anynet+ or something. I really want the ARC.

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throwing soundbar firmware on a jumpdrive too

shy comet
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throw everything at it lol

hushed basalt
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Do everything at once

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Play roulette with systems, makes things fun

night zodiac
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Welp, what a waste of time :/

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other than learning a bunch of ways not to fix it

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I want CEC stuff but only have the option to disable it entirely

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I could use digital input but like the ARC stuff

fiery geyser
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I hate spiders

night zodiac
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I can't do certain settings with the replacement remote I bought for my TV. I just tracked down the $50 OEM remote and will see if maybe there are a bit more settings in there but I don't think so, lol

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there is a "device setup" that only works with a "smart remote"

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so fook

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cleaned my storage room while trying to find it

tidal bronze
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@night zodiac unless you are crazy about DD+, No difference between ARC and Optical. If your TV supports eARC then it's somewhat worthwhile to use HDMI.

night zodiac
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the ARC stuff is super nice just because it shares the sound profiles and the volume controls but I think I will just do the optical

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I only use the flat/standard sound mode anyways

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I think I'll just do that so I don't hate life.

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brb

tidal bronze
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Built in TV players do a subpar job at decoding/reencoding audio anyways, I wouldn't worry about it too much. 😉

night zodiac
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Okay, so that works perfectly now. 😛 thanks for the motivation

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simple solution. I am sure cancelling an order from samsungparts.com is more trouble than it is worth

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oh well, I can name my devices now. dumb that I need a smart remote for that

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I just left my Sync Box on all of the time now too. I think that will speed up the turning on process.

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Luckily the Google TV remote lets you map the buttons differently. Power button does CEC on/off to tv, volume is IR to soundbar, and source button is IR to soundbar. Although, now that the soundbar is solved, I can use that source button for the Hue Sync Box.

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Buttons

night zodiac
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just now realized I recorded without audio, pretty sure

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neat

clear ferry
last cedar
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Very pretty looking thingymidad

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A bit nippy tho

clear ferry
last cedar
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Gonna work on my router today atx... My supermicro router 😂

clear ferry
night zodiac
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Nice atx

clear ferry
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last cedar
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last cedar
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That isn't what I meant

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Bad bot

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-15C is chilly

clear ferry
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last cedar
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This might be too on topic for lounge

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But fantastic video

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I need to pull my paw out of my ass and get on with lovelace

subtle pasture
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Already got some nice mobile dashboards built. The slick trick is embedding your own Javascript that automatically redirects your large-format dashboards to the mobile dashboards when loaded on a mobile device

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And/or embedding CSS that automatically alters the page for mobile on mobile devices.

last cedar
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That sounds com ple cate ed

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I am but a simple raccoon

subtle pasture
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Not that bad

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last cedar
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That is assuming you know how to build a css 😂

subtle pasture
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Anything nested under the media query will only show up on mobile (or if you REALLY shrink the window on a PC)

last cedar
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I only ever did a css back in like 2003 to set font and colours of a webpage

subtle pasture
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I found using javascript to query the useragent, and force a redirect to an entirely different mobile dashboard when loaded on a mobile browser, was a better option, honestly

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But CSS can do some fun tricks

last cedar
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I will only eventually need a "tablet" dashboard and a phone dashboard, can sort that later

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I have a clean but default ui atm

clear ferry
ember ibex
clear ferry
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Better clean muh desk

clever mortar
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You can still find it... why clean it?

clear ferry
forest edge
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@clear ferry wtf is an i dag

clear ferry
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Today ? @forest edge

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Where did you see "I dag" ?

tame sand
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You have a UI 🤢

clear ferry
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Oh shit, I'm so embarrassed you saw that, oh no

tame sand
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are they all 4k? If so which gpu do you have?

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and what is that think on the left? 😂 with the red head or smth

orchid rose
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Looks like two of them are 16:10? Are there 4k displays at that aspect ratio?

tame sand
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dunno. But I remember him talking about getting three 4k monitors. 🤔

clear ferry
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2x28" 4k i bought used this Christmas

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And 1x24" 1080p

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And it's a dalek yes

tame sand
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which Gpu do you use?

clear ferry
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It's my zbook g3 with m1000 quadro

tame sand
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isn't it getting boiled running 2 4k displays 🤔

clear ferry
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Nope

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The dock does one 4k though DP and one 4k through USBC-DP adapter

forest edge
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when you buy a house to house only your bed and hobby https://youtu.be/i49BesMwKF4

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TrainGuy 659
2020 Awesome Lego Train Set in the Garden and House

This years 2020 Lego Train Set, will be the last time the Lego Train Set is set up at my house. 2021 will be in a new house/location. With the Lego Train making it's way through the house and out to the front Garden.

Link to the original music and Artist (TheFatRat)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL8CyVqzmkc

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clear ferry
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They say two 4k is the max, according to forum threads, but I'm looking for a third one just for lulz

last cedar
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@clear ferry jelly at that workstation!

tame sand
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😂 google says 4096 x 2160 is the max resolution for the GPU (Not considering integrated Graphics)

last cedar
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Not sure this is the right channel for that, but thank you!

raven mural
last cedar
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Unsure. People will be back soon :P

quartz ether
# clear ferry

Your monitor spacing annoys me soo much more than that mess

last cedar
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It is a wonderful space though!

deft pewter
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Rule #6: Spam will not be tolerated, including but not limited to: self-promotion, flooding, text walls (longer than 15 lines) and unapproved bots.

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So... feel free to remove your post and share it in the 'showing off' section of the forums.

last cedar
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@deft pewter ty :)

raven mural
tepid roost
clear ferry
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@tepid roost I considered a keyboard like that, but it is too much for me, if I can just get a proper natural keyboard like the elite pro I'll be bappy

quartz ether
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What is that keyboard.

tepid roost
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I guess I went the other direction - the hardware project is a further customised board 😛

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Starting from "what the fuck am I doing" level

tepid roost
# quartz ether What is that keyboard.

The board in the photo is a mangled ErgoDox EZ. I swapped the caps for those clear top ones and plucked the unused keys off the board - just putting some black cardboard in their place to prevent dust and such from collecting too much.

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The hardware platform is an nRF52840 devkit.

subtle pasture
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As much as I follow mechanical keyboards... I already kinda hit my personal endgame with the CODE 104 with MX Clear switches

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Some nicer (double-shot) keycaps are about the only upgrade I want

tepid roost
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I kind of entered that stuff at an odd angle - I didn't really give two shits about mechanical boards. I just wanted to further optimise my ergonomics.

quartz ether
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What is the point in such a custom keyboard lol.

subtle pasture
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The stock keycaps are clear, coated in black, then have the legends lasered into the black coating to reveal the clear plastic underneath, allowing for backlit keys

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Looks great, super sharp legends, but the black coating eventually starts to wear off

tepid roost
clear ferry
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For me it would be ergonomic

quartz ether
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The whole point around super custom keyboards

clear ferry
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But sadly nothing can reach the comfort of this for me

tepid roost
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So both then I guess? 99% of the time I only use one keyboard, but I use it a crapton given my occupation. Why on earth would I use one with a layout designed as a bad compromise or one with bad ergonomic properties?

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That's what prompted my initial decision to order an ErgoDox anyway. And once I started adapting it further for my actual use, I just kind of kept going.

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I kind of have a preference of whole-assing things.

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Similar with initially picking up an IKEA TRÅDFRI set and ending up here.

clear ferry
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Looked at the ergodox, but boiiii that is some over priced RGB shit

tepid roost
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Definitely is if there are features on there you don't want/need.

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Just like gamer PCs are completely pointless.

clear ferry
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Modern RGB shit is mostly overpriced yes

subtle pasture
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No RGB on my rig 👍

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The only RGB-controllable thing is my mouse... and it's just locked to blue to match the case / monitor power LEDs

tepid roost
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Now I specifically wanted individually addressable RGB in order to do per-layout highlights, I wanted the board fully programmable and I wanted the physical ergonomic layout of the ergodox. For that list of needs, the ergodox ez is basically the only game in town and compared to the market for ergonomic boards in general it does not really fall out of bounds budget-wise.

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If I didn't want/need some of those factors, getting the EZ would have been a ridiculous waste of money.

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I also don't buy smart bulbs for non-smart light needs.

clear ferry
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Lights in keyboards

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🤢

tepid roost
clear ferry
subtle pasture
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Can be nice in a dark room. My keyboard has white LEDs (can be disabled)

clear ferry
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I haven't looked at my keyboard in over 20 years, not sure what lights would do for me

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Albeit I lie a bit, I look when I use a native hpux keyboard

subtle pasture
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I can touchtype as well, but that doesn't mean I have muscle memory for the insert or F12 keys...

clear ferry
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Really?

subtle pasture
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Some shit you still glance for

deft pewter
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I'm awful with the numbers above the letters. Numpad I can do by touch, symbols I can do by touch.

clear ferry
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I have muscle memory for both Scandinavian and English keyboards

tepid roost
deft pewter
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I just don't type enough numbers for the top row.

subtle pasture
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Oh yeah, number pad is an absolute must. I almost never touch the numbers above the letters...

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I can bang out IPv4 addresses blindly on a number pad

clear ferry
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Only things that pisses me off a lot is the American tiny enter key

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Throws me off

subtle pasture
clear ferry
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I do that with my g510

tepid roost
subtle pasture
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Also, if you have a lot of layers on your keyboard, some people set up the LEDs to indicate which keys are active on the currently selected layer

tepid roost
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Which is exactly what I do

subtle pasture
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@tepid roost Not paying extra if there's no alternative that meets your needs

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That's just "the price"

tepid roost
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Definitely

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Ref: My earlier outline, I could have gone for a non-RGB ergodox option to cut cost significantly.

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atx doesn't see what RGB would do for their use case, so I pointed out that for them paying extra for RGB would be a waste.

subtle pasture
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I saw. Not much of a waste, LEDs are cheap as chips

midnight adder
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hello

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german user here

subtle pasture
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Also, for some products... good luck buying a good one that doesn't just happen to include RGB as standard these days

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Mouses are a good example

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If you wanted to buy one that doesn't have RGB because it's "a waste"... you're in for a rough search if you want anything reasonably high-end

tepid roost
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Definitely. That obviously doesn't necessarily translate to product pricing, but in the case of the EZ, the delta is $30. If LEDs were unnecessary for ones use case or directly offensive, that would be a silly $30 to pay.

subtle pasture
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That's a function of availability, is my point

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If the only option was LED or nothing... you're getting the LED version and just turning them off

midnight adder
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any user use hasp?

tepid roost
subtle pasture
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Tangentially related: Sucks that blue LEDs die so much faster than the other colors. My Razer mouse (which has had its scroll wheel LED locked to blue since it was bought in 2013) is getting rather dim

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Change it to red or green, it's as bright as the sun...

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Might have to pop it open and replace the LEDs at some point. Already did the left and right-click switches

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Rocking Cherry microswitches in my mouse now 😄

tepid roost
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I mean my work PC has a freggin mini display on its motherboard. You bet I laugh at that, but it didn't mean I decided against getting the board in the first place 😛

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And obviously the drivers for that stuff are only available for Windows.

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So I throw the cabinet under my desk and never give it a second thought.

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Well, until today I guess.

subtle pasture
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Not a bad thing to have an integrated video out on your motherboard. Can come in handy (extra screen, fallback for a bad video card on RMA, or you can use it for power savings via Nvidia Optimus)

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Or, heck, if you run virtual machines you can temporarily give a VM your real graphics card while the host uses the integrated GPU

tepid roost
subtle pasture
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Oh, I thought you meant it had a mini displayPORT

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For the integrated GPU

tepid roost
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Oh no its way more silly than that

subtle pasture
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My bad. lol

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Yeah, that's about as stupid as ubiquiti putting OLED screens on their switches

tepid roost
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It's the best TRX40 board out there, but asus clearly threw the kitchen sink at it to push the price as high as it could go.

subtle pasture
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Also +1 for running an HEDT system

tepid roost
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Which apparently means on-board display

subtle pasture
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I'm still rocking X99 because the only real upgrade is either a Threadripper build, or another Intel HEDT built

quartz ether
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I was just looking at the price and its like WHY so much $$

tepid roost
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It's an excellent example of component price != unit price. They threw all their stuff at it - both enterprise and gamer stuff in order to justify a jacked up price, but it's only that - a justification. Not a 1:1 to component pricing.

subtle pasture
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@quartz ether TRX40 motherboards start at about $400 and go up from there... Partially due to the small batches produced, partially due to board complexity

quartz ether
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Yea I have a Asus Prime X399

tepid roost
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I'm guessing that in addition someone may buy it for a misunderstood gaming rig? And so they're covering bases by adding the rainbowbarf in stead of just addressing enterprise?

subtle pasture
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Doing a short run of a 8+ layer PCB can't be cheap. Some of these boards get up to 11 layers thanks to including premium audio (with the left and right analog audio paths being given their own PCB layers with plenty of isolation)

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@tepid roost I mean, Threadripper wasn't a bad option for gaming before AMD ditched all the 8, 12, and 16 core options...

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Now it starts at 24 cores and the price is just stupid

quartz ether
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Threadripper for gaming is stupid lol

tepid roost
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Why on earth would you want more than eight cores and a lower clock speed for gaming?

subtle pasture
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Why would it clock lower? Traditionally lower core counts clock higher

tepid roost
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TR is lower clock than regular Ryzen is what I mean.

subtle pasture
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And I'd want it for the extra memory bandwidth and PCIe lanes

quartz ether
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Ryzen 7/9 for high end gaming. Threadripper for cpu rendering

subtle pasture
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Every time I try to part-out an AM4 build, I run out of PCIe lanes, and my old-ass X99 system has more memory bandwidth to work with...

tepid roost
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How is memory bandwidth and PCIe lanes going to give you a better gaming experience than a couple of hundred mhz on the CPU?

deft pewter
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Bandwidth always wins.

subtle pasture
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The additional PCIe lanes let me use more NVMe drives, for starters... and a number of games I have get a rather large performance boost going from dual-channel mode to quad-channel mode on my existing system

deft pewter
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No point having the best parts if they can't get the data around the system.

quartz ether
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3/5900x is more than plenty for a gaming cpu

tepid roost
subtle pasture
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Literally no other changes mode. Hop into the UEFI, force the board into dual-channel mode, watch me lose 20 FPS in some titles (even worse if you log the 1% lows)

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1% lows are kinda the most important number to keep high if you want a smooth stutter-free gaming experience, and quad-channel RAM improves them pretty massively on my system

tepid roost
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Seeing titles making use of the delta from dual to quad channel is quite surprising. What sort of games and configs are these?

subtle pasture
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Doubles the memory bandwidth without loosening the timings. That's a pretty big win.

clear ferry
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz AMD

subtle pasture
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@tepid roost Nothing particularly wild. The Witcher III, GTA V, Half Life: Alyx

deft pewter
clear ferry
subtle pasture
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The drop in 1% lows from going to dual-channel mode is incredibly noticeable in VR, especially when you have the headset cranked to 144 Hz and you're trying to keep a consistent 144+ FPS at all times

tepid roost
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Ok. Open worlds like those will definitely push things around, but dual to quad making a significant difference is still surprising.

subtle pasture
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EM0g0Szg_U&list=FLaybQB1G52oKsjR6yanrvsg&index=1&t=195s

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wolfgang
RAM Dual Channel vs. Quad Channel | 2x8 or 4x4?

Battlefield V, Assassin's Creed Odyssey 2x8GB vs. 4x4GB RAM performance comparison.
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● RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 16GB (4x4) 3000MHz CL16
● GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti GAMING X 11G
● CPU: Intel Core i7-6800K 6-Core 3.6GHz
● Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H55
● Motherboard: MSI Gam...

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tepid roost
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VR makes sense for sure

subtle pasture
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Someone has, helpfully, done a comparison that includes 1% lows along side average FPS 😄

clear ferry
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as long as I have more FPS than I can visually observe, I'll frankly not care about the 20 extra

subtle pasture
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Er, accidentally linked it with a timestamp. Feel free to roll that back to the beginning

tepid roost
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For sure. When available use it all the way - things just get a bit less straight forward when the proposition is a tradeoff vs CPU throughput.

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VR makes a ton of sense. The open world non-VR games I could see push things, but are still surprising. Will definitely dig deeper there.

subtle pasture
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I mean, in theory, there's no reason you couldn't get that 24-core 3rd gen Threadripper, disable the weakest cores to clock it higher, and then have all the memory bandwidth and PCIe lanes you could ever want

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Bit wasteful, though

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Really wish AMD would just release some lower core count Threadrippers at reasonable prices for the gamers who want larger rigs

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If I go AM4... One graphics card, two NVMe drives, and I'm out of PCIe lanes. Sucks... 😕

tepid roost
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My immediate approach before diving more into this would still be to get either an R5 or 7, clock it silly, throw an AIO on it, spend the budget on GPU.

subtle pasture
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I mean, at this point, AMD's solution appears to be "DDR5"

clear ferry
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Just go for a Superdome Flex, 896 cores \ 64TB RAM, 128 possible NVMe slots, 64 possible graphics cards and throw in a few 100Gbit cards and you'll be golden

subtle pasture
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They can literally throw RAM that's clocked twice as fast at the problem, rather than widening the memory bus to 256 bit

deft pewter
tepid roost
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No

clear ferry
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YES

tepid roost
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😛

clear ferry
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Actually I don't see why not, it is pure scalable x86

subtle pasture
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Kinda funny. Anyone who invested in X99 has been playing with DDR5-levels of memory bandwidth since 2016

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DDR4 3400 in quad channel is going to provide roughly the same amount of bandwidth as DDR5 6800 in dual-channel, and that's not the fastest DDR4 you could attempt to run, either...

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Granted, DDR5 has some nice latency improvements coming along for the ride

clear ferry
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@scenic radish I see you typing angrydoggo

tepid roost
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Anyway, last bit of holiday hardware hackery was fun. Perhaps I'll find some more time for it next weekend 🙂

clear ferry
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my m570 just stopped working, apparently a big bit of nasty was stuck inside the cavity of the sensor 🤣

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haven't removed the ball before now

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I've had it for... little over 6 months now I think

deft pewter
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Trackball? I thought only old men with arthritis had those?

clever mortar
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I've been using them since about 25, to limit the damage from RSI

clear ferry
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I am an old man

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And I've never had RSI

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but I do love my trackball

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never had one until @clever mortar told me to buy one

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🤣

deft pewter
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How am I going to win Fortnite with a trackball though?

clever mortar
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I always found it easier and more accurate than a mouse when I was gaming

clear ferry
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Fortnight you say, Ye old british paycheckeths

clever mortar
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Having a button to flip between accuracy/slow speed and high speed movement is handy

clear ferry
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OY, GIVE ME MY FORTNIGHT PAY YA WANKER

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My meditation waterfountain is in place

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Now to get my muji diffuser up and running and I am in zenmode for a fuckton of meetings

last cedar
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@subtle pasture a smaller threadripper would be magnificent!

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And ECC support (asking too much)

clear ferry
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@last plaza NUT

last plaza
violet brook
night zodiac
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I went to use my bedtime automation last night when everything died. I noticed one of my lights flickering nonstop and realized what I did. I put the light group inside of itself and it was in an infinite loop. lol

clear ferry
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More loops!

night zodiac
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how to enable haunted light mode ^^

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looked spooky

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This is like the first day that I have woke up tired in a long-ass time. I feel weird.

clear ferry
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Nice new covid rules

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No guests in homes

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Max 5 people can meet up anywhere outside your home

clever mortar
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Not too different to us

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Even level 3 bans meeting in houses

clear ferry
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No alcohol serving allowed throughout the country

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That's new

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But still only please don't travel

deft pewter
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Norway's rules are still more relaxed than three quarters of England 🤣

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I can't even go to the shops now.

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Haven't been allowed to dine out for months. Same with seeing family (except them allowing Christmas Day).

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And they reckon it'll carry on like this (or stricter, god knows how) until April.

clear ferry
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Until 2023 you say

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When Covid22 is over

deft pewter
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Starting to feel like that.

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I'm beginning to run out of fucks at this point.

clear ferry
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Could be worse, you could have been in the socialist hell that is NorwayJodieScronch

deft pewter
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I've done my best to do the right thing for the last 9 months... but our government are so inept. This could've been over months ago and now it just feels like punishment.

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Frigging island nation and we somehow couldn't handle it.

clear ferry
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The commonsense not so wealthy

lean loom
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We did the right thing for 9 months and ended up getting it whilst Getting last minute groceries for Xmas 😦 been a fun week and a bit now :/

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Fortunately mild symptoms

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Off topic 😬what is the consensus on a sensor for a DIY door bell? I’m using ON / OFF MQTT sensor currently. But wondering if other people are doing it differently?

clever mortar
last plaza
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There is a possibility that covid may return in 2024 😝

night zodiac
deft pewter
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It'll never really be gone now. Just gotta hope vaccinations keep it under control.

night zodiac
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He's being a cunt, lol

deft pewter
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We'll find out once the older folk get theirs and stop dying.

last plaza
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The current vaccine will be effective starting Jan 20, hopefully it will cure the current strain. But experts believe that more deadly mutation is being developed and will be effective in 2024.

night zodiac
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His brain just strained so hard to type that.

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skalavala is typing...

lean loom
night zodiac
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my gif failed

clever mortar
night zodiac
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Most of us have PTSD from the scary IRC channels where everyone was much angrier and there were less emojis and patience

lean loom
clever mortar
night zodiac
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/topic

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shit

clever mortar
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Just read it at the top of the window 😉

night zodiac
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I know, I was curious if they did something for that

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they did not

last cedar
night zodiac
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y'all that have the patience to wait on aliexpress are monks

deft pewter
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Just order a bunch of stuff and forget about it. It'll make a nice present to future you.

night zodiac
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2 months, I might be dead

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I could get 2 months of use out of it via amazon. maybe the motion sensors save my life.

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they won't

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but

clear ferry
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SALAD IS DEFEATING THE ONEPACK

night zodiac
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atx uses salad, it wasn't very effective

clear ferry
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@night zodiac waiting 12-16 days ? sure no problem

night zodiac
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the estimated date was 2 months on both listings and then I closed it 😛

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then tried IKEA to see if motion sensors are in stock yet but sadly not

clear ferry
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that's what happens living in a capitalist utopia

night zodiac
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bbig ocean is big

clever mortar
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Nah, it's that the land is small 😛

night zodiac
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That sure is a long message. I hope we are reading the topics, lol.

sterile plume
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Or a slow typer?

night zodiac
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😛

sterile plume
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message was:
After trying my best with all sorts of open source automation software ~5 years ago I decided to try again moving in a new house.
Holy shit! installed HA and literally everything works instantly.

night zodiac
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sorry, haha

sterile plume
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Im blown away

night zodiac
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the one time I say something for the long messages 😛

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What did you use before? I hated life before when trying stuff bbefore HA

sterile plume
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tried domiticz, and openhab

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plus one I cant remember but it was basicly just strung together perl scripts

night zodiac
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I used something called AutomationManager that I have never heard mentioned in here, lol

sterile plume
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it was cool to hack together some stuff real quickly. but user friendlyness zero

night zodiac
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yeah, I had a set of node.js scripts at some point too

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shower_mode.js

sterile plume
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cool to play with, but then it fails the girlfriend/wife test and untimatly dies a slow death 😛

night zodiac
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ahh, yeah. same. shower_mode_jill.js

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Did you get the full YAML baptism yet or are you saving yourself?

clear ferry
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Yaml > ui

clever mortar
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There is only YAML

night zodiac
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I remember my first day with HA, I just did nothing but add all of the integrations possible I could find which left with me 1000 default badges

shy comet
clear ferry
night zodiac
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I instantly wiped to yaml and felt relieved

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default_config'd myself into fresh air

clear ferry
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Default config 🤢

night zodiac
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WELL, AS A START

clear ferry
shy comet
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meh i use it out of sheer laziness

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i dont have to remember to add things to get new features

sterile plume
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so far only UI, YAML is for next weekend 😓

clear ferry
night zodiac
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haha

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WHO DIDN'T FLUSH

shy comet
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i use the automation editor at my parents install but after clicking create automatoin i immediately go to YAML mode lol

clear ferry
night zodiac
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this round of the install I am using nothing but the integrated VS Code editor and I like it a lot more than using the remote VS Code setup

clear ferry
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Yup, I use sshfs vscode

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It is great

sterile plume
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does the integrated editor have linter highlighting? :p

night zodiac
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It has everyfuckingthing

clear ferry
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Integrated editor 🤢

night zodiac
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I like it more. It has been more stable for me.

clever mortar
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It does, but it's also quite limited - and can lead you to write gibberish

night zodiac
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no, I meant the vs code addon

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but I forget the right nouns

clever mortar
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That one... also has issues at times

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I've seen folks saying it reports valid HA syntax as invalid

sterile plume
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it's better then nothing, but yeah I run in to that frequently at work

night zodiac
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I have only had invalid syntax bbeing reported with the stock shit but never the vs code addon since I started using it

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the syntax highlighting is great for me now. my setup for remote before wasn't optimal as I was using sambda share with the remote connection and I think something was spamming updates making it slow

sterile plume
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in its defence, theres some puppet gurus at my job that use all sorts of edgecases that are valid but... weird

night zodiac
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so remote would beb great if you didn't do it like me 😛

shy comet
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meh i just use notepad

night zodiac
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lol

clear ferry
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🤢

clever mortar
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🇻 🇮 master race 😉

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(silly Discord, merging things)

night zodiac
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vs code made me VIM dumb

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I could probably use the vim vs code extension though for all of the quickness

clear ferry
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I force myself to use vi more and more

clever mortar
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vi works when almost nothing else does

night zodiac
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I use nano on servers now because I have lost the muscle memory

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catch me out here holding down arrow

deft pewter
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Trying to get to the end of a massive file in nano 🤢

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vi... 👌

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G

sterile plume
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Im a windows sysadmin for a hosting company.
I spend plenty of time within Linux but VI scares the living shit out of me

clever mortar
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That's ok, we know it's not your fault.... Windows that is

sterile plume
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🙂

night zodiac
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😛

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I spent 30 minutes trying to think of the word "active directory", 2 weeks ago

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words

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my father's work is failing in the IT side of things. they need an active directory setup and I couldn't think of the words.

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He said he looked at a girl's laptop and it had half a screen of toolbars. No restrictions, lol

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That is completely out of his area but he was venting, lol

sterile plume
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Sounds familiar. Sorting companies like that is just the worst time. At least I never have to handle the onsite stuff :p

clear ferry
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@last plaza

last cedar
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@clear ferry one pack, same here

clear ferry
deft pewter
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How'd you find my photo?

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My t-shirts have even started fitting like that.

clear ferry
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Actual picture of tinkerer opening vi

last plaza
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@clear ferry I hired him to deliver your Christmas package. Is he fast enough? 🤣

clear ferry
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Yeah, I'll have it by 2024

last plaza
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Oh no! Not 2024 🆘🆘🆘

clear ferry
last plaza
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Fuck, got work tomorrow. It would feel strange going to work after 25 days of vacation.

night zodiac
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I am trying to mentally prepare for working tomorrow

clear ferry
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I do too, which is why I have cleaned my office and installed my zen fountain and blood orange mister

last plaza
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I would all be pissed mostly - going through endless emails

clear ferry
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Mmmmm zfs cache

last plaza
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Too bad my NAS doesn’t support Zfs.

clear ferry
last plaza
night zodiac
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time to update NAS and explode it

clear ferry
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SSD cache no

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Memory cache yes

night zodiac
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NAS boot beep scared me

deft pewter
last cedar
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Roadrunner is one of my favs

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Me_irl

ancient wren
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@sonic hamlet WD Red Pro in the synology are my go to after some issues with older seagate and wd shucked (some i still have) in RAID5 (i don't use RAID as backup method - thats the second NAS job)

sturdy glade
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i actually didnt lnow there even were mods in the lounge...

ancient wren
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so long as we don' discuss HA support here i assume everything else is game?

sonic hamlet
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resuming our conversation from #330944238910963714: I feel dirty backing up anything to a medium that's not backed by a fault-tolerant raid

sturdy glade
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ive noticed a SERIOUSLY slowdown on the NAS when any drive (or when the system approaches) gets full (or when it hits the size of a full drive.. in my case, 8TB)

sonic hamlet
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that's why I'm currently backing up to the cloud

sturdy glade
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and i need to dump dummy data in it to kick it past about 10%

ancient wren
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my nucs are so new, they literally only have HA running on them at the moment 🙂

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sturdy glade
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on my nextcloud, i just have it hooked up to a 2TB backup drive i had laying arounf....

ancient wren
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i backup between the synology units for low key data, the small amount of high key data gets backuped to azure stroage

sonic hamlet
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did you guys know that some people have installed HA on their Synology NAS???

ancient wren
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actually my critical data is one-drive primary > RO sync to synology > backup to second synology > backup to azure warm

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yeah i had it running on mine with zwave passed through via docker

sonic hamlet
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but why...

ancient wren
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thats where I evaluated HA

sonic hamlet
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got it

ancient wren
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why? because synology is a great docker platform for beginners

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its where I started

sonic hamlet
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I've had problems with the longevity of cheap seagate 2TB drives

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one failed on me a few years ago (thankfully it only had time machine backups)

ancient wren
sonic hamlet
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didn't know synology was so feature packed

ancient wren
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the mem usgae is driven by a windows VM

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this is a DS1815+ from 2015

clear ferry
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Most Synology and qnap boxes are fine for playthings, but have no proper punch

night zodiac
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don't drink the punch

ancient wren
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indeed they have their place, for home networking it has been great - esp the ability to get support

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not sure what i would choose if i was back in the buisness helping small businesses with IT

clear ferry
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Eh, the biggest problem is their scalability, most of them can't be expanded beyond their original CPU and memory

deft pewter
clear ferry
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Sure

ancient wren
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memory can be expanded on all of them

night zodiac
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Mine works great for plex

ancient wren
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this unit only came with 2gb and official only supported 6gb - it has 16gb in it

deft pewter
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I'm actually researching NAS enclosures right now. This is good timing.

clear ferry
ancient wren
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great for anything that doesn't hammer CPU

ancient wren
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some of the consumer ones were fixed

night zodiac
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the CPU's used in most of the ones I've seen are limited to 8GB of memory. I see people doing guides for 16GB and being happy that they see it but the CPU specs says it can't use it.

clear ferry
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Not true for qnap

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Which is why I mentioned both

night zodiac
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My DS918+ came with 4gb and I put 8gb in it. woooooooo

ancient wren
night zodiac
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wat

ancient wren
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my DS918+ has 16gb in it 🙂

night zodiac
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okay, and half of it is being used

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even though you see it say 16gb in your UI

clear ferry
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Even worse, CPUs that can't address larger memory sizes will crash when passing their limit

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Even if memory is visible

ancient wren
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with apps like VMM and docker i can absolutely use all 16GB

clear ferry
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VMM 🤢

sonic hamlet
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does your NAS not use the free ram for caching?

night zodiac
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perhaps I read it incorrectly years ago. oh well

sonic hamlet
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or is that simply not reflected when you're looking at memory

clear ferry
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@sonic hamlet only proper filesystems do that ;-)

ancient wren
sonic hamlet
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iirc, that's what Linux does. Not sure if you can see this cached memory in htop

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@clear ferry but what about at the file level. i.e. many clients are requesting the same files

clear ferry
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@sonic hamlet all modern operating systems do application and other cache though

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Windows calls it smart cache I believe

deft pewter
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Are TerraMaster any good? I'm trying to figure out why their 5 bay NAS is cheaper than a lot of 2/4 bay alternatives.

ancient wren
clear ferry
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Never heard of

deft pewter
sonic hamlet
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right, so in terms of upgrading a nas to 16GB of ram, is it safe to assume the NAS will use all available RAM for file caching, but free it when requested by other apps?

clear ferry
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No

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If you want file level caching, use zfs

ancient wren
sonic hamlet
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@ancient wren I think the white lines in the mem bar reflect OS-level cache

ancient wren
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i will defer to you, i don't use it very often

sonic hamlet
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haven't heard of ZFS before. this looks interesting!

clear ferry
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Never heard of?

ancient wren
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ZFS is pretty cool

clear ferry
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Blasphemy

sonic hamlet
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"To make the most efficient use of real memory, Linux automatically uses all free RAM for buffer cache, but also automatically makes the cache smaller when programs need more memory."

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I think that summarizes it pretty well

clear ferry
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Buffer isn't necessarily what you think it is

sonic hamlet
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ah true

ancient wren
night zodiac
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I just remember Synology for sure suggests only 8GB. I figured they had a reason.

ancient wren
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i unlearn things i knew to be true on a weekly basis 🙂

ancient wren
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they want you to buy more expensive units 🙂

night zodiac
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Does the UI still bug in the control panel when you use 16gbb?

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there was something wonky with it

sonic hamlet
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that's dangerous for people like me who would rather pay $1000-$2000 up front for a NAS that I will barely use vs paying for monthly cloud storage

night zodiac
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I spent a ton of money on my NAS and haven't used it at all really

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🙂

ancient wren
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and if you ring up support they may ask you to revert to lower mem for testing - i have never had that issue, i have had them insist i put back in official synology sticks of ram

night zodiac
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A ton for something I don't use, that is

clear ferry
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Long live truenas

night zodiac
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yeah, I bought the official jazz for support stuff, I remembber that now that you mention

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lol

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I never imagine I will need it but I bought their brand

ancient wren
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i had the mem controller on a DS918+ fail - i could only prove it when their ram was in, because when it wasn't they accused my perfectly fine crucial ram of being funky

night zodiac
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Scyto, I have a 3d printer I have literally never put together

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bought it 6 months ago or so

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Ender 5 pro or something

ancient wren
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nice, i made the mistake of getting a A350 snapmaker 2

night zodiac
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I lost the screws moving so now I need to track down a bunch of bullshit

ancient wren
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i realized i will never time to do anything with it

night zodiac
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well, the ender support is nonexistent so 😛

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I would love a lot of enclosures for all of the 8266 things i make

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Scyto, I think the resource monitor might have been the wonky thing with 16gb memory but it looks fine from your screenshot

ancient wren
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ok, i have to go back to what i was supposed to be doing (spring cleaning) , this was fun, first time I have hung out here. Only in week 2 as a Homeassitant person. (been doing home automation for 7+ years)

ancient wren
last kiln
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Did I back the wrong horse with Zwave? Is zigbee more reliable?

amber bramble
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no

deft pewter
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Just cheaper 🤣

amber bramble
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reliability seems to be about the same between the two in my house. zigbee devices seem to have a few more quirks though and the nice cheap aqara sensors like to drop off the network a ton for me

night zodiac
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I don't really have any issues with zigbee, no experience with zwave

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I'm having a slight issue with z2m right now but I am pretty sure if nothing works soon I can just smash my face into the monitor and call it good

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reading through 6 different repos that all touch my issue

hushed basalt
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What's the issue

night zodiac
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I actually ended up looking over at my monitor and one of the PR's was authored bby someone chatting in zigbee. if you look in #zigbee-archived @hushed basalt

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Nvm, reading back my convo isn't very linear. Something is telling z2m my device is allowed to OTA update but when it tries, the firmware is not listed in the repo they keep firmwares

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so it tries to do something that never will work

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so I have thousands and thousands of lines of errors 😛

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walt is going to look into it more for me tomorrow and if not I'll have to make an issue on their git

ancient wren
formal plover
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Does anybody know how to order the home assistant blue bundle in the Netherlands?

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It only gives me options for Korea USA Sweden and Switzerland 🤨

night zodiac
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Can you not order from the nearest one? 😛

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When I looked the other day, it was out of stock :/

formal plover
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oh noo 😅

night zodiac
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I think if I remember right, some time in Feb. I should have ordered one when I could 😛

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wait, that is for the temporary solution. The actual blue says March/April

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I think you just need an ODROID-N2+ and emmc storage and it's the same but I might be completely wrong

formal plover
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yeah true but i am running a gaming laptop with proxmox atm for home assistant troughout the whole house and i was hoping this could replace that

night zodiac
formal plover
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but i was thinking about using LEDfx, ADGuard, MotionEye, Deconz, Emulated HUE, and stuff like that so idk if an odroid will be enough to handle everything

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so im kinda stressy about ordering if it maybe wont hold my setup

night zodiac
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I don't use a single thing you listed so I don't know, haha

formal plover
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haha all kinda cpu and ram intensive stuff i gues cause my rpi3 lagged

night zodiac
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ssd?

formal plover
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no just sd

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would ssd help?

night zodiac
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then it never had a fair chance 😛

formal plover
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and is that possible on an rpi3?

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or should i get an rpi4 then?

night zodiac
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well I'd just get an odroid if it were me

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emmc is reliable and isn't clunky like an external ssd

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my pi's have ssds though

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I wasn't really aware of odroid stuff until the blue came around

formal plover
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imma give the rpi3 with an ssd a second chance and if that doesnt work ill order an odroid

night zodiac
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I am not booting from ssd, I just have data partition on it

formal plover
night zodiac
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yeah, I run a lot of stuff on my server, nas, and other pi

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rather than my HA pi

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hrmm, you would definitely want data to not be on sd card

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I see now that pretty much everything there needs to be on same machine, lol

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influx with sd card sounds interesting

formal plover
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i think as my HA for an all go to sollution, make one backup and have everything done. need to update something? sure go to HA, need to see the security cams? HA. the appliances throughout the home like the washer, dryer, roomba, etc, everything

night zodiac
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oh, for sure. I have everything linked to HA that I need to some way or another

formal plover
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oh thanks

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that will come in handy sooner or later haha

night zodiac
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I have been looking at node-red but I am not really into clicking programs together and it looks like that. I don't really need it me thinks.

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I was looking at mopidy but I think I'd rather just continue to stream my music through plex if needed and use spotify separate

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I use Nest cams so don't need motioneye

formal plover
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i mainly use spotify for music and plex only for movies and series

night zodiac
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I use spotify for most music but plex has a lot of things not on spotify

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well, my plex

formal plover
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haha, yeah i am still searching for a way to stream my Spotify to my google home minis and echo devices throughout the house simultaneously and being able to control the volumes/inputs manually from home assistant

night zodiac
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ez

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throw away echo devices

formal plover
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yeah ive been thinking about that

night zodiac
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I only keep one of them so I can see amazon delivery alerts

formal plover
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but then i should buy 3 extra home minis

night zodiac
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I don't do a single thing with it

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yeah, lots of minis!

formal plover
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😆

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are those google minis?

night zodiac
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I have one in pretty much every room. I'll add them soon.

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the speakers

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I just need one more room and I think I might add another one with voice disabled to kitchen for an output only