So not a hub really
#the-water-cooler
serene mortar
@tidal bronze You are tempting me
also, is your synology_dsm integration is working? mine broke in 2020.12.0
celest oasis
i am trying to move away from xiaomi gateway and i read that with raspberry pi + zigbee adapter i am able to do so
i am heavily invested in aqara switches and yeelight ceilings
orchid rose
Oh wait the 130€ for ODrdoid is without eMMC so it would be easily 200€ fully setup in Europe
night zodiac
I'll install DSM 7, lol. I don't even use my NAS really these days
serene mortar
I just updated one drive on my NAS - a schucked 18tb
deft pewter
I'd say you guys convinced me to buy a NUC but I was actually tabbed out for that entire discussion while I bought an NUC.
floral pulsar
for the script help i need to go in integration ? or automations ?
deft pewter
Glad I didn't tab back in to see you talking me out of it 🤣
#automations-archived, Steepy. Read the topics and it'll tell you.
orchid rose
which NUC did you decide on?
deft pewter
I went for this one. Good amount of RAM and storage, seemed a decent price. Even other machines by the same brand are more expensive for less storage, so I think they made a mistake with the pricing 😄 https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08PL895D3
£169 for a Celeron J4125, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD. 10W TDP... way better than the 240W workstation I'm using now.
orchid rose
oh damn that's really slim
deft pewter
Yeah, the dimensions are awesome. I'll just sit it on top of my main PC tower until I find a better home
serene mortar
weird....I cannot even delete the integration
orchid rose
does it have a fan mono?
tidal bronze
weird....I cannot even delete the integration
works after DSM 7 as well.
deft pewter
No fan but I don't think I'll ever work it hard enough to care.
Think I'll go Buster + supervised, but only so I have a bit of flexibility over the OS.
clear ferry
@deft pewter that'll take you far
Just do KVM tbh
And run VM if you want add-ons 🤢
deft pewter
Why KVM?
subtle pasture
Me: "This Aruba switch you picked doesn't support 10gbps at all, and it requires an additional module for stacking. Shouldn't we try to future-proof a little?"
Coworker: "Well, this switch is already $1200, and the one with 10gbps and stacking built-in is nearly $10,000"
Me: Pulls up a 48 port Cisco switch for $700 with the same switching capacity, built-in stacking, and two 10gbps ports
HPE/Aruba price-gouging worse than Cisco. Never thought I'd see the day...
tribal whale
I went for this one. Good amount of RAM and storage, seemed a decent price. Even...
I've got a beelink s1 running win10 hosting that hassos vm. Been good so far. Been little dive it came with its almost full.. Need to upgrade it.. The only negative with beelink is the shoddy bios.. No power restore apci functions. So if you lose power or stays dead till you go press the button.
orchid rose
fanless nuc sounds pretty great. I'll try to remember the beelink next time I need a small PC
tribal whale
They are decent for internet browser /email machines. Underpowered for much else.
clear ferry
@subtle pasture curious about the actual model numbers there ;-)
tribal whale
So.. Great for grandma!
subtle pasture
@clear ferry JL321A ARUBA 2930M 48G vs. Cisco SG350X-48
$1250 vs. $700, but the Cisco switch supports stacking (no additional module required) and has two SFP+ ports for 10gbps connectivity (the Aruba switch has no 10gbps capable ports). They both have the same 176 gbps switching capacity, and they both support basic L3 operation.
deft pewter
Because it is the preferred hypervisor for Linux ? 🤣
I meant more... why should I bother with a hypervisor over just doing Docker?
clear ferry
Because supervised install is.... Fickle, not for the faint of heart and a shitshow in the end ;-)
@subtle pasture looks pretty similar, is the "Linksys" full layer 3 too? And does it scale to 10 per stack? 🤣
subtle pasture
@clear ferry Not a Linksys switch... the 350x came out well after Cisco sold Linksys 😕
subtle pasture
Not really. I've used Cisco-Linksys switches, and they don't run the same OS as these SG series switches at all
Configs aren't cross-compatible, either
subtle pasture
It's not iOS, though the command and config structure mimics iOS
iOS is limited to Catalyst switches
subtle pasture
But, anyway... I can find no reason for the Aruba to be so much more expensive, given the specs, performance, and warranty
clear ferry
Poor reseller discounting probably
Cisco is always more aggressive
First needle free etc
subtle pasture
What really blows my mind is the price-jump on the Aruba side to get some 10gbps ports
That goes from "unreasonable" to "you're fucking kidding me, right?"
clear ferry
I had Cisco undercut us on a customer once, like, 50% cheaper, but when the customer wanted to add 4blades to their ucs it was cheaper to buy a whole enclosure plus 4 servers from us, and they still had enough money to buy two more servers from us
subtle pasture
Like, I'm sure the $10,000 Aruba switch does more than the SG350X, but we don't actually... need that... we just need stacking and a couple 10gbps ports
clear ferry
What really blows my mind is the price-jump on the Aruba side to get some 10gbps...
Def biased reseller or poor campaigns
deft pewter
Because supervised install is.... Fickle, not for the faint of heart and a shits...
So if I go the KVM route, I get the full OS again and less pain?
clear ferry
Yes
deft pewter
Hmm, that sounds tempting. Either way, I just start with Debian as the base, right? It's just the next steps that differ?
clear ferry
Yup
Debian 4 lyfe
Then add what you need
Can run both docker and kvm
But run haos in kvm
subtle pasture
y'all see the CentOS replacement? https://rockylinux.org/
inner vault
Me: "This Aruba switch you picked doesn't support 10gbps at all, and it requires...
did you miss the $10000 Cisco licence to be able to login and configure the switch? :-p
clear ferry
Lulz
subtle pasture
@inner vault Nope, SG series switches include the licensing built in... that's part of the "Small Business" package. Only Catalyst series need additional licensing.
clear ferry
I still remember Cisco Nexus 6000, $1000 per port you want to activate, comes with 8 ports enabled
subtle pasture
Cisco doesn't even hide the firmware updates for SG series switches behind a login or paywall, they're just there...
inner vault
huh wild
clear ferry
subtle pasture
@clear ferry As for the sick face on the Rocky Linux link... at least this is back to being an independent free-ified version of RHEL
Unlike the now-defunct CentOS, which was taken over by IBM
Original CentOS founder started the project, as well. Dude came out of nowhere and picked up the mantle.
clear ferry
Eh, most centos shops I've talked to (with a couple of thousand centos bare metal nodes) are just considering moving to something else because rhel are see ju enn tees
We'll see
Not sure what their best options are, mostly HPC environments
subtle pasture
I mean, anyone running CentOS right now basically has to consider moving... they're shuttering everything except CentOS Stream, which is the rolling pre-release version
clear ferry
Yup
subtle pasture
Rocky will be the closest to a drop-in replacement
clear ferry
I know of the environments ran rocks, which used to be popular in hpc
Which again is based on centos I believe
subtle pasture
Yup
celest oasis
referring to this picture, do i still add/create automation in HA UI if i am using mqtt ?
clever mortar
Yes, and that's a topic for other channels 😉
Read the channel topic at the top of the window
night zodiac
that gif was obnoxious, had to remove
celest oasis
o okay
night zodiac
I wonder how far I can throw one of those swimming pool torpedos
low harness
About as far as you would trust it?
night zodiac
Yes.
clear ferry
And the boys of the NYPD choir were singing Galway bay
night zodiac
I have only seen the tiniest bit of snow once this year
night zodiac
It snowed for like 4 minutes this year, haha.
clear ferry
I'm used to nine months of snow, this ain't too bad
deft pewter
Only nine months? Those are rookie numbers.
stable flint
deft pewter
That's the safest Christmas lighting hack I've seen.
I take it that's the breakers on the right? They don't look like that here.
stable flint
yep
night zodiac
yee, ours look weird because we choose 120/240 at the breaker panel
every row alternates between -120 and +120. we use the single breakers to get 120 between one of those poles and the neutral. we use a double breaker to get the 240 between the -120 and +120
a device can also use 120 and 240 easy so it can use 240 for the beefy things inside of the device and 120 for rest.
stable flint
lol btw this was a meme not my actual setup
night zodiac
yes, haha. just explaining the weird breakers because I find them neat, haha
night zodiac
https://share.busheezy.dev/VtLH0Q.png https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMmUoZh3Hq4 This video explains it well and is the only reason I know this
clear ferry
Muurica power
night zodiac
😛
night zodiac
in the video he says "If you are European, this looks horrifying. 'That's okay, we're coping."
lol
pseudo frigate
Hello. Anyone here has TV with Fire TV OS? Not the Fire TV sticks, but TV with Fire TV OS integrated.
night zodiac
'shouldn't light your tv on fire
low harness
I like that guy. Much because he looks like the famous Swedish parody TV show host Kurt Olsson
Turn on captions when watching his videos, btw.
night zodiac
He explains things well enough for it to stick to my brain.
The visuals are very nice.
forest edge
And the boys of the NYPD choir were singing Galway bay
what half assed norweigian night club is that?
cinder heart
How much effort is reasonable to sink into evaluating HA before determining if it can replace the older, custom built automation system? Ref. sunken cost fallacy? Or is everyone here sunken deep into HA anyways, i.e. speaking to the choir?
deft pewter
Only you can answer that.
cinder heart
Is there a mentoring program in HA?
fathom sparrow
nope
It's probably best to make a forum post with information about your current setup and what possible solutions there are to replace it
list all the hardware you have as well as any software
cinder heart
Thanks. Didn't mean to turn this into support. Just some random lounge meta talk about HA 😄
last cedar
This random lounge for discussion of racoons 😂
cinder heart
Yeah, we don't have racoons in Norway, so we talk about the weather instead
deft pewter
Just cross the border. There's at least one raccoon in Sweden.
last cedar
But yeah, HA started as a way to get rid of remote controls in living room. And now it decides whsat I buy. I got trådfri lights just because I could control with HA 😂
cinder heart
Not much border crossing going on these days -- unless you want to be confined to a your room and/or hotel-room for 14 days
last cedar
Sharing hotel room with strangers, from what I hear 😂
cinder heart
haha, is that the new covid-tinder thing? get locked up in some random hotel for 14 days. Who else is here?
clear ferry
deft pewter
I knew there was something off about atx.
night zodiac
oh dear
subtle pasture
clear ferry
last cedar
This is disturbing
clear ferry
Y'all love me
last cedar
Yes
last cedar
clear ferry
🤏 🤏 🤏
last cedar
I made a cute server :)
last cedar
Yes, it be smol
Probablt should have got an e5 16xx system to be honest
For more memory and more cores, could have run scale
As it is now, capped at 4c4t (4c8t max) and 32GB RAM
deft pewter
You're right about the first bit.
deft pewter
All raccoons are furry 😄
clear ferry
I'm furry in the ears
forest edge
you are likely furry in every orifice
last cedar
Mono understands
deft pewter
Uh, yeah... 'raccoon' should never be shortened.
sturdy valve
Hi Guys, sorry to bother you, are the community website facing some issues?
I get http 500 server error or 502 bad gateway while brosiing the forum
deft pewter
Yeah. AWS a few weeks ago. GCP today. Now HA forums.
Hackers always go for the big targets.
deft pewter
What? It's just someone else's server.
Can't hate the cloud if you know the cloud isn't real.
forest edge
☁️
white radish
anyone got the unknown error when trying to upgrade
lucid dock
No Wi-Fi or Bluetooth
Support for Z-Wave and Zigbee by external USB adaptor (not included)
light trout
✅ Able to copy+paste
lucid dock
you guys are better than that
forest edge
considering you really shouldn't run HA from wifi in the first place..
lament coral
All you Home Assistant users... make sure that you got a backup, holy shit :D
my proxmox backups just saved my ass
light trout
Backups are useless untill you can prove that restore of it is working
lament coral
^
but everything worked out - more or less
rm -rf removed the right docker directory... but on the WRONG machine... well, I'd have my duplicati backup, but it was faster to restore the snapshot from my proxmox (which runs the main docker host)
forest edge
@tidal bronze we are aware you run your HA connected through dialup
tidal bronze
On hook all day!
slender axle
Quick Question... when combining two "items" in yaml, such as two switches, two covers, two binary_sensors, must you call binary_sensor: each time, or can you do, such:
binary_sensor:
- platform: gpio
pin:
number: D0
...
pin:
number: D1
...
And also:
cover:
- platform: template
name: "..."
open_action:
- ...
close_action:
- ...
name: "...2"
open_action:
- ...
<etc>
flat kindle
Quick Question... when combining two "items" in yaml, such as two switches, two ...
Correct, you may only group under the binary_sensor | cover header, but can include multiple instances like so
- platform: gpio
pin:
number: D0
...
- platform: gpio
pin:
number: D1
...
so you have to repeat the 'platform', but not the main header
slender axle
Bingo, this is what I was looking for
ESPHome, esp is offline at the moment. Moved to a new house that has two garage doors instead of 1, so trying to use the same esp8266 to control both.
Thank you.
flat kindle
ESPHome, esp is offline at the moment. Moved to a new house that has two garage ...
paste your setup when you're done, and good luck! (wish I had a garage - for all the tinkering and automation and what not)
slender axle
Rule of thumb is basically, kinda, if two of alike, call each with a -platform: xxx
flat kindle
Rule of thumb is basically, kinda, if two of alike, call each with a `-platform:...
precisely, there are a couple of integrations where it breaks down, but by and large, that's the syntax for all of the core sensors and devices
slender axle
I couldn't figure out which sub-#channel to ask in 🙂 lol
Maybe add an #Iamanidiotwithyaml or #esphome
velvet horizonBOT
slender axle
🙂 my bad
hushed basalt
@clear ferry I was bitching on Facebook about our asymmetrical internet speeds
And some corporate spokeman offered to sell me symmetrical enterprise ethernet
I said it'd be cheaper for me to just move to Norway :D
obsidian ibex
Finished kitting my old Pi3b+ out for a friend, been a long night, HA doesn’t like a lot of usb/ssd adapters lol
storm summit
anyone try Rhasspy or GassistPi ?
subtle pasture
@obsidian ibex That's more of a Pi issue than a HA issue. UBoot only supports so many adapters
Make sure you've fired up the latest Raspbian at least once on there, since it'll automatically update uboot, giving your adapter the best shot at working.
Which USB-SATA adapter did you end up going with?
obsidian ibex
@subtle pasture every adapter (4 lol) booted Raspberry OS from SSD no problem, the issue was only with HA. I bought the Euluteng one recommended in a guide and it does NOT work as advised haha. Old seagate caddy’s worked best for me, a Sabrent one worked fine for usb2 (rpi3). It’s been a long night of trial and error
clear ferry
<@457673488225009676> I was bitching on Facebook about our asymmetrical internet...
Lulz
forest edge
@ripe sierra #330990055533576204
ripe sierra
Ops sorry
clever mortar
If only there was a channel topic here
nocturne aspen
is it possible to watch the Advanced users stream from the conference somewhere ?
clever mortar
ISTR it was going to be recorded and published - details should be on the blog and in #announcements when ready
deft pewter
The NUC I ordered at 6pm last night just arrived. Shame I gotta do some work before I can play with it 😦
At least my internet doesn't suck ass now, so I can download Debian in minutes instead of hours.
clear ferry
Thou oldeth interwebbeth hath sucketh ?
deft pewter
36Mbps 🤣
350Mbps now. Could go faster if I spent more but I'm happy with a tenfold improvement for now.
With both of us working from home, 36Mbps struggled if we were both on a call at the same time.
clear ferry
Sure, when you need four cameras each to be attractive on onlyfans
4k to spot all those pimples
clever mortar
Yeah, I've gone from 100 Mb/s to 4 Mb/s to 40 (+-10) MB/s to 500 Mb/s in the least few years... and it's nice to finally be back on stable, reliable, Internet
clever mortar
Yeah, going from cable to ADSL was painful
FTTC was less bad, but the stability of it was shocking
forest edge
I haven't been on anything dialup related since the early 90's
deft pewter
First, chill.
Second, this isn't a support channel.
Check the topics of the other channels to see where to post
clever mortar
If you need help with #330990055533576204 see that channel, and tone it down 😉
(Oh, and WiFi for that is covered in the docs)
Head over to the right channel and then we can help 😉
clear ferry
running on wifi 🤢
midnight adder
🤮
Quick question: I have issues restoring a snapshot after a crash, what channel to use for asking the question on this?
velvet horizonBOT
midnight adder
Hi, does anybody know how I can fully open up a password protected snapshot on another system (windows 10 or mac)?
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
☝️ No support for HA here 😉
midnight adder
OK, new to discord, so don't know those kind of things yet. Learning as we go hu? I posted my question in #general-archived
clever mortar
No worries - just take the time to read the channel topics
subtle pasture
Maybe #the-water-cooler's topic should read "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here" 😂
clear ferry
Or just feck off ye old cwnts
subtle pasture
clear ferry
🤣
clear ferry
sturdy saffron
There was this blueprint channel. Is it no longer there or my discord is behaving crazy?
sturdy saffron
See it now after I clicked the link. but it was not visible earlier. So is the #tag. And no haven't collapsed
deft pewter
You may have muted it and have Discord set to hide muted channels.
It's definitely still there.
dusky plank
sturdy saffron
okay. I killed the discord app and restarted. Now it is showing...hmmm
deft pewter
German is cray
clear ferry
That is not regular german is it ? is it austrian ?
deft pewter
I think the only thing more stupid is languages that have a different written and spoken system.
clear ferry
I haven't practiced my german in many years 🤣
I like japanese like that, it is pronounced exactly as it is written
no buts
deft pewter
Hello Bokmal and Nynorsk 👋
clear ferry
It is considered an official language some places
like in my hometown
jewsus christ the signs at the hospital
Then there is southern sami, and northern sami too
Triple K actually
never noticed that before
clear ferry
Yeah, I played in a finnish guild for years
I tried to learn the logic
but.... "yeah if the gender of the noun is female and the noun is followed by a verb then you have to change the gender of the second verb to match the cycle of the moon"
and I'm pretty... good with languages mostly
but finnish, nah, I'll skip that
and tonal languages like thai, no thanks
deft pewter
We had a Hungarian contractor for a while. I tried to learn some to be friendly but never got past saying hello 😂
dusky plank
goulash
deft pewter
Especially if it's served in a bread bowl 🤤
When we can travel again, I want to go back to Prague. The food and beer there is great.
deft pewter
We stayed at some cheap hostel 😄
dusky plank
beer and female tourist attractions 🤤
clear ferry
A lot of the european porn seems to come from Prague
deft pewter
With your exchange rate, 5 star hotels in Europe might be okay. With ours... Nope.
clear ferry
we usually do 3-4 star, unless it is very cheap, then we do 5
deft pewter
Although it's only £92 a night for Hotel Paris. That's not bad.
Let's see what prices are like once travel goes back to normal and hotels aren't desperate for trade.
clear ferry
In london we have made London House Hotel our go to
but I now have apartments there through work, so we will probably do that with the baby
deft pewter
Mmm. The Tower Suite at Hotel Paris looks good. Not sure I can afford it though 😄
clear ferry
we did a regular suite, it was way plenty
🤣
felt compelled to buy a new shirt to be able to go to breakfast there
deft pewter
Even the rooms look good. Not sure I'd care about a suite,.
deft pewter
A bit posh?
deft pewter
I'll try to remember it if we go back. It's in Stare Mesto too, which is convenient.
clear ferry
Yup
deft pewter
I love how they named their old town... OId Town.
clear ferry
Same for most Norwegian and swedish old towns
they are just called "old town"
"gamlebyen" "gamlastan"
deft pewter
Just DIY one
clear ferry
clever mortar
Buy 4 x 14" HD monitors, glue them together, it'll be fine
clear ferry
Y'all so smart
deft pewter
You have enough LEDs. Build your own panel and control them with WLED
clear ferry
you aren't wrong
I will build a matrix display for my garage door next year
if I have time
2meter x 2meters should be good enough
deft pewter
Don't forget to build a range sensor so it can display a giant stop sign when you get too close.
clear ferry
or just flip off random kids if they get too close to my house
I use watch way too little
I'm so old I just rerun commands when I wait for stuff
frozen fulcrum
i just realized you can recreate "WELCOME HOME, JENNIFER" from back to the future 2 using home assistant and geolocation sense.
dusky plank
Yeah I'll let my house yell WELCOME HOME, JENNIFER @ me when I come home... just to creep out some OneNight stands
stable flint
i just realized you can recreate "WELCOME HOME, JENNIFER" from back to the futur...
reid "smart home solver" did a comparison on how you can recreate back to the future's smart home with today's products and tech. he's on youtube
dusky plank
You have onenight stands ?
I don't even have my own house 😄
want to be my ons though? 😏 🍆
stable flint
woAH
clear ferry
interesting.....
moved my plex from a jail to docker
but it still thinks it's IP is the jail IP
which seems to screw with some stuff
clear ferry
stable flint
why yes i have
stable flint
https://tenor.com/Ksq9.gif
lol wait is that a nk flag i see???
stable flint
isnt there an apple tv skin that you can put on it tho?
dusky plank
you can make your tv remote control HA with Kodi, show me that Killer feature anywhere else 😄
dusky plank
tv remote controls kodi via cec, kodi sends command based on keys to HA
stable flint
ooooh i gotta find a pi now
dusky plank
lel
stable flint
or flash my apple tv 2nd gen lol
dusky plank
you can make use of the stupid colored buttons on your tv remote at least
clear ferry
so I changed the "preferred interface from epair0b to any, but it still believes it's IP to be the old one
now to grep on all files to find where that is hiding
we don't do that here
move along
supple moss
dusky plank
new emojis 😂
stable flint
lol wut 😂
dusky plank
MOAR EMOJIS 🇳🇴
deft pewter
Why does his hat have teeth?
Looks like that bearskin outfit atx wears around the house
stable flint
how do you know that.....
deft pewter
He livestreams it...
flat needle
Need a new thermostat (my nest decided to be running both heat & ac for the last little while....). What's a good one w/ decent integrations? Looking at ecobee, but open to others too
clever mortar
See #integrations-archived and answer
velvet horizonBOT
clear ferry
where in the world
does plex store path information about stuff
ex: boost::filesystem::last_write_time: No such file or directory lot of errors in the logs referring to my jail directory structure, that I cannot find anywhere in the plex config settings 🤔
subtle pasture
I believe all media paths are stored in com.plexapp.library.db
It's a SQLite database
clear ferry
is that the viewed status database ?
subtle pasture
Probably, but I don't know that for 100% sure
Might just have to open it and take a look 🤷♀️
clear ferry
I see a lot of stuff in there
but nothing about hardcoded paths
Warning: ex: boost::filesystem::last_write_time: No such file or directory: "/usr/local/share/plexmediaserver/Resources/Plug-ins-a78fef9a9", couldn't check file: "/usr/local/share/plexmediaserver/Resources/Plug-ins-a78fef9a9" def something hanging around from my jail
as that new path inside the container will be /config blablabla
checked all tables in com.plexapp.plugins.library.db
deft pewter
atx - I'll come back to this later after my next meeting, but do you know why a fresh install of Debian would just show 'static' post-installation? Setup menu was all visible but I can't see anything when I boot normally. HDCP maybe? What do I do? 😄
clear ferry
Can you login via SSH?
deft pewter
Haven't tried yet. I was hoping there was a graphic-less way to log in while I still have this hooked up to a monitor.
clear ferry
Probably an acpi or other kernel value
I've seen a lot of stuff like that in laptops over the years
It turns to static after the X environment is up?
deft pewter
Beelink Gemini M. The NUC I bought last night.
clear ferry
Intel UHD600 should be fine 🤔
deft pewter
There was a warning during installation about non-free software needed for some hardware. I didn't know what to do, so skipped that... But that's why I think it's HDCP.
deft pewter
Running through the installer again, the hardware warning is about the WiFi adaptor. I'll ignore it again 😂
Ethernet ftw
deft pewter
I can see about 12 pixels now... Progress! 🤷♂️
mild moss
hi
whats the devices that does bluetooth le , wifi and run on an esp32?
err , tnot the device the project
forest edge
@mild moss may wanna ask in #diy-archived and restruct your question cause I didn't understand a bit of that lol
deft pewter
ESPhome and Tasmota are popular
mild moss
it s liek i flashed my esp32 with something a year ago , i dodnt remember the name of the project
forest edge
what mono said most likely
deft pewter
Haven't figured out a way to actually reach the desktop yet but on my third attempt at installing, I thought I'd try the SSH installation 🤣
unkempt osprey
So I found home assistant and set it up without really looking at alternatives. Now I see OpenHab, has anyone used both and can say which they prefer? I am sure I will get a biased opinion towards HomeAssistant here but it's ok 😄
clear ferry
@deft pewter desktop environment for a server is eeeeeeeh anyway
deft pewter
Yeah, I'm going to try without a DE this time. Got closer on the third attempt... It hung when trying to get the non-free firmware. I'll disallow non-free this time.
If I can just get SSH going, I'll be okay from there
clever mortar
So I found home assistant and set it up without really looking at alternatives. ...
I think the answer depends on what you wants. OH is slower paced and so easier to keep up with, but significantly less capable. HA is faster paced, demands more from you, but is well worth it in the end
unkempt osprey
OK thanks, I'll stick with HA then.
forest edge
if they had released HA blue before the rpi4 got usb boot support I may have even bought it and I am a cheap bastard lol
subtle pasture
@forest edge I keep going back and forth on if HA Blue is a worthwhile purchase vs. buying a used NUC off ebay
light trout
At least for a while
subtle pasture
Usually time to replace the battery in a 2nd hand one 😛
Old thin clients are cheap AF, as well
forest edge
@subtle pasture would depend what your future plans for it are. if you don't plan to do much more than what you currently using it for on a rpi then I would say yes it's worth it.. considering the components that come with it's actually cheaper than buying them separate.
subtle pasture
Eh? I'm looking at a $125 NUC right now with a faster processor, double the RAM, and double the SSD capacity...
How's the Blue worth it?
That's the wall I keep running into. lol
forest edge
talking about the N2+ retail along with the eemc and case etc retail costs vs the Blue's cost
subtle pasture
Right, it's a deal compared to buying the same components separately... but there are cheaper x86 options with way more power
forest edge
but then those other options use more power etc
it all falls down to effiency and what you plan to do with it
why put HA on a nuc if you are not going to utilize the extra ram etc
subtle pasture
Mostly because it'd be cheaper to do it that way than buying Blue 😛
forest edge
well thats custom vs not
subtle pasture
Cheaper than some Pi4 setups, as well
forest edge
the blue is cheaper than some rpi4 setups lol
subtle pasture
All you really win on with the ARM-based systems is power consumption
1.8w at idle on the N2+ vs. 8w at idle on the NUC
forest edge
I see it as a waste of a perfectlky good nuc in my setup
cause i wouldn't utilize what the nuc would be capable of
course that depend son the nuc too
the nuc your looking at could be a turd lol
subtle pasture
We're talking a dual core (2c 4t) i3 NUC. it's not that fast (though it is faster than the ARM CPU in a N2+)
NUC DC53427HYE, to be specific
light trout
NUC is a useless middle ground, not powerful enough to be the only server, and too powerful for single application use
subtle pasture
I feel that way about the Pi4, honestly. Just running HA seems like a waste
forest edge
if you had a few cameras it would fit the bill perfectly
light trout
If you are just using the core, then yes that is massively overkill
forest edge
i run a discord bot, cameras and a few other things on mine. cpu averages around 50% when i'm not looking at it lol
subtle pasture
That said, I'd almost choose the NUC just because it's A) cheap... really, really cheap for the hardware you get, and B) an all-in-one package (like HA Blue)
If I needed more power than a Pi provides, that is
forest edge
depends on what you plans to do. again back to cameras.. the rpi is much better at encode/decode than that nuc's onboard chip
was that nuc even ddr4? saw it was discontinued back in 2010 or something
clear ferry
@subtle pasture atleast the blue is reasonably priced where you are, $230 in Sweden and $365 in Denmark 🤣
subtle pasture
oof
clear ferry
Not that I would ever buy a kids toy in an eyesore colour 🤣
forest edge
if it dosen't take up half his living space it's not a computer in atx's mind
orchid rose
nuc masterrace
subtle pasture
@clear ferry Show us your setup, then. Running a full high availability cluster with HomeAssistant in a VM? 😛
You've seen my vCenter cluster. lol
deft pewter
I knew it. There's nothing down there.
clear ferry
forest edge
got both darksky and openweathermap on the dashboard. preparing for the switch and darksky is always more closer to my actual weather conditions. gonna miss when it goes bye bye
ah openweather is UK.. bleh that's why lol
deft pewter
Yeah, it's because they only have weather stations this side of the pond.
Really bad for accuracy if you're 1500 miles from the nearest station.
clever mortar
And sometimes really bad if you're not
I found OWM worse than anything else, other than the generic MetOffice integration, which lacks any useful details
deft pewter
Well since when have forecasters been known to be accurate? 😄
clever mortar
To be fair, that one wasn't his fault
forest edge
too bad noone slapped a weather.com intergration together. they bought out weatherunderground but there is an api. not sure if it's paid tho might be why
seems to me that openweathermap for me is just pulling noaa information and redirecting that back to me. there's already a direct noaa intergration soooo.. lol
summer hazel
I just had an idea that I think is probably going to be too much effort in practice to be worth it, but I have these ikea on/off switches and a lot of devices I'd like to control with them... I'm going to look into how much of a pain it'd be to have RFID tags near devices, and then scanning one with your phone would change the on/off switch assigned to you to control that device. So as you move around and spend time in different areas of the house you can change which device is being controlled by that switch, and carry the switch around with you instead of having to have a switch for every device that I think someone might want to control physically. Maybe the switch itself could have a tag on it that you read to register it to your phone so you become the controller of that switch.
Is this a crazy idea? Have I lost my mind?
deft pewter
You may not have lost your mind but you've lost your way.
HA stuff goes in other channels.
But for what it's worth... I carry a multi-switch with me at all times. My phone.
No need to scan anything when I move to a new room
forest edge
voice control would actually work better in that scneario
than rfid tags and carrying a switch
part of me is happy that the magic home integration is pushing forward considering the existing flux led integration really only turns the bulbs on and off with very little control of anything else. many people will be thankful for it but the fact that it's cloud polling is absolutely gross 🤢
summer hazel
hmm, yeah good points all around.
(what is a good place for a discussion like this? I don't think any of the "support" rooms are appropriate, as it's more of bouncing ideas around than actually asking for technical help)
forest edge
hoary carbon
It seems that the Integration documentation web page is failing, https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/
its just me ?
tidal bronze
@serene mortar syno photos, simply amazing. So glad I did the update.
tidal bronze
@shy comet did you watch Tenet?
tidal bronze
Is it me or the audio track is WTF?
shy comet
its Nolan lol...the fact that a movie released in 2020 without 3d audio should tell you something haha
tidal bronze
Neural X is usually great. This thing is all lumped together. Trying the 3rd one now.
Half the audio is decoded to heights.
shy comet
cue helicopter noise
tidal bronze
Reloading of the clip outputs on front and rear heights. Yep Nolan shit
forest edge
oh great. not sure how to feel about the denmark mink thing with covid. culling millions of mink because of covid kind of pisses me off but at the same time scientist finding strains of convid in mink that can transfer to humans that the vaccines are useless against is kind of scary
tidal bronze
Not to worry, we will deal with before it gets to KC
shy comet
in some cases it manifests into FIP which is a fucked up way to die
ive had a kitten and an older cat pass from FIP
tidal bronze
Are we going for a complete shutdown ?@shy comet
shy comet
idk i just saw a bunch of restaurants petitioning to keep outdoor dining open
hell the one lady in sherman oaks at pineapple hill saloon compared her setup to a movie crew
customers != employees
like you cant say shit like he did to a customer LOL
forest edge
ive had a kitten and an older cat pass from FIP
FIP is very uncommon. crazy you lost two to that
shy comet
FIP is very uncommon. crazy you lost two to that
yea the kitten really sucks since she was like 9 months old
my wife was super upset
jovial marten
does anyone know of a Zigbee temp/humidity sensor that would survive in a freezer?
The sonoff ones say they handle -10C to +40C which is fine for a fridge, but not freezer
last dirge
jovial marten
sorry
last dirge
no biggie
your problem is going to be the battery, not the sensor
looks like the grocer Kroger rolled their own for their freezers
remote temp probe
clear ferry
Modifying a Xiaomi one to use a probe would probably be good
I was considering that before I decided to do esphome multi probe for my 5 freezers
clear ferry
last cedar
@forest edge I think it sucks that millions of mink were kept for fur, and sucks even more that they got infected. And sucks even more about the kull. We don't need to use actual animal fur.
Those mink "never should have been there"
clear ferry
Damn Danish
last cedar
Yeah
Good thing that the kolskål pile didn't get covid
The whole country would have starved
I am working in a nursery today
Time to scare all the kids by wearing a mask
Hillarious to see them asking why I have mask, like, "because Tegnell and Löfven want you dead"
hushed basalt
clear ferry
@subtle pasture figured out the path stuff.... apparently when you have a running instance of plex, and you migrate to another server on the same network, whenever you go into the "settings" of that said new server (I went to newip) it will show you the settings of the "old" still active server it seems, as soon as I shut down the old server all the settings were "new server path" "new server ip" etc in the interface
which I found quite interesting
hushed basalt
Yeah Plex web isn't actually your server
It's just a front end client that can connect to your server
If that makes sense
hushed basalt
I'm guessing it just serves you a SPA
So the entire client is running in your browser
So I think you could hit the random server of someone else
And it'd just show you your server
clear ferry
lulz
I have to run a VM with our corporate Windows image
to update my password every 3 months
because there is no web way of doing that
forest edge
just noticed this in the server controls, "Control your Home Assistant server… from Home Assistant." that's a.. little long lol a simple Restart or Stop Home Assistant (even though the buttons say that) would be ok lol
clear ferry
Yeah, it is even more... sounds like a poorly google translated phishing ad in norwegian
Oh nice, there is a tool for Mac users that I can abuse
🤣
rare condor
Just ordered 50m of WS2815 strips 😄
clear ferry
50m ? 🤏
tropic hedge
The Spelunkys are finally coming to Switch. About time, perfect games for the Switch
hushed basalt
That's like A$4000 in Phillips Hue strip prices
I should hit up hax when I finally have the opportunity to do led strips. Make him do all the work and I'll just copy his homework
dusk berry
Hello - I am trying to understand the terminologies w.r.t HA like entity, template, etc.. I read documentation couple of times , as English not being my primary lang could be that is what I am thinking. Can someone be able to guide me some youtube videos? I know the videos will be old but I believe the terminology must not have changed. Thank you!
could you tag me when you respond..
regal elbow
@junior forge Sorry for the highlight, but after watching the HA conference/your YT channel I just love your voice. So pleasing to listen to. When can we expect your voice as TTS? 😄
junior forge
ASMR Assistant? 😛
hushed basalt
Here's a poll for you.
When you get a cold/flu, would you rather not take drugs and feel miserable for a short period of time
Or take the drugs and feel decent but be sick for longer
dusk berry
Some where I heard , for cold if you take medicine it will cure in 7 days ,if not in a week .
dusk berry
<@!243794953032040448> Sorry for the highlight, but after watching the HA confer...
I wanna watch his Ytube video for this statement...
hushed basalt
dusk berry
wait HA has a podcast ??? thats awesome...
hushed basalt
I am on the side of letting the fever and such run it's course
It's there for a reason
dusk berry
wait, you didn't know?
funny , I am pretty new to HA
hushed basalt
@clear ferry are people in norwatland even capable of getting warm
dusk berry
I heard a snippet only @junior forge , I should agree what @regal elbow has said ..
hushed basalt
36 degrees body temp, this man is burning up. Ice stat
I can get pretty high fevers. Must be genetic since my daughter is the same.
junior forge
You should listen to some episodes @dusk berry, in general they do a great job and some interesting guests
hushed basalt
It's probably too cold and dark for viruses
Having 2 seconds of sunlight a winter must help
clear ferry
that's very optimistic of you
low harness
I wish Thomas Lovén in Washington would learn his own email address... but I hope his lasik procedure goes well.
clear ferry
Ms Thomas Lovèn thank you
tame sand
I wish Thomas Lovén in Washington would learn his own email address... but I hop...
maybe he can see his email better afterwards and gets it right 🤔
low harness
At this point I've given up. I've emailed a few addresses that I think may be right, I've talked to his buddies in the Crossings Guard. I even talked to some sherif somewhere who wanted some background on his cousin for an employment (Really, via email?)... It's been going on for years. I even tried to offer to set up theamericanone@thomasloven.com as a forward.
clever mortar
Just cancel things
It's amazing how fast that gets folks to sort their stuff out - speaking from experience
clear ferry
my wife has the same, she has firstnamelastname@gmail.com and some idiot of a woman thinks she has registered firstname.lastname@gmail.com as her email
and keeps using that to sign up for stuff
clever mortar
I get emails for two different folks in the US, and one in Aus. The numbers dropped off after I started cancelling appointments, or responding to things with You do realise that I'm not your client, and you just released sensitive legal/medical information to a strange
deft pewter
To a strange Scottish man
clear ferry
that is implied
you don't need to add that
why is noone sending appointment mails to me
I could rebook them every two weeks
that would be great fun
mmm performance review for 2020 with my boss in 30 minutes, does my hair look good ?
subtle pasture
@clear ferry I had one of those last week. lol
subtle pasture
One of the funnier moments was when I was informed that someone had complained about my use of profanity in a company meeting. My boss hadn't even noticed I'd swore (because I hadn't actually been offensive in any way), but was still required to bring it to my attention.
Hilarity ensued:
Me: "Ok, fine, so you want to play by Battlestar Galactica rules on this one?"
Him: "You know... I might actually be ok with that"
Me: "So if I told you to go FRACK yourself, that'd be cool?"
Him: "Well... no... hang on a minute"
Me: "Yeah, because it's not the WORD itself you care about, it's not the combination of MOUTH SOUNDS I'm making, it's the INTENT BEHIND IT that you care about it. When I dropped an F-bomb in that meeting, it was NOT used in any way that could even remotely be construed as offensive, and you know that. Whoever complained is the one with the problem here, and they need to learn to lighten the fuck up."
We left it at that
last kiln
Hey fuck you
clear ferry
subtle pasture
lol
clear ferry
fun fact for you @subtle pasture , the part of the country where I'm from we use swearing as adjectives
so when I moved south everybody thought my swearing was cute
deft pewter
Swearing as adjectives?
last kiln
Redditors ruined swearing for me.
subtle pasture
@clear ferry This is a case of us having one highly conservative/religious, mid 60's, upper-middle-class white lady on-staff who loves to complain about literally anything anyone does...
last kiln
Is there a good reason I can add a sensor in the GUI but have to edit the config file to convert the "access control" into a usable device class?
deft pewter
No support in here
clear ferry
"This was a moth... interesting problem, I wonder I we can use the fooki... new drivers or if that'll be a goddam... shitshow" would be totally normal sentence @deft pewter
deft pewter
You're asking something about HA. Ask it in a support channel.
subtle pasture
And she's especially sensitive to curses, even when used in the most positive way possible. For example, I said "America, fuck yeah" in company chat, on the 4th of July, in response to someone's overly-patriotic independence day meme, and she complained...
deft pewter
Start in #general-archived if you're not sure where to ask.
subtle pasture
I did nothing wrong there, IMHO. This is a her-problem...
clear ferry
this is another reason why I have never accepted a job offer from the states
wow that was interesting, I stuttered in my little finger and told octoprint to raise the bed temperature to 800 degrees
it didn't even flinch
SIR YES SIR
subtle pasture
Heh, my printer firmware would balk at that. I've got Marlin's max bed temperature set way lower than that
deft pewter
I did nothing wrong there, IMHO. This is a her-problem...
Agreed. Some people are just too sensitive or look for fights.
clear ferry
subtle pasture
This is also the same lady that got on everyone's shit-list when she basically forced the entire office to go home and change after complaining that a significant number of employees showed up with Pride-themed shirts, on a casual Friday, during Pride month...
The shirts had been cleared with one of the owners of the company before-hand, I'll add.
last kiln
That's pretty gay
clever mortar
Is there a good reason I can add a sensor in the GUI but have to edit the config...
See #zwave-archived or #integrations-archived 😉 (but yes, there is, mostly it's only supported in YAML)
last kiln
I just want to bitch and moan until the developers fix it.
clear ferry
👀
last kiln
(the zwave onboarding process)
last kiln
I already submitted two in the last month
last kiln
I guess you could say I'm one of the lead devs
clever mortar
Folks normally just whine and bitch.... not actually get involved
clear ferry
Don't kinkshame me
subtle pasture
Gotta hit that perfect balance of bitching WHILE submitting a PR
last kiln
I just can't find the motivation to put effort into implementing my grand plan only for the devs to shoot it down because it doesn't fit their grand plan.
clear ferry
Sounds familiar
subtle pasture
I mean, that's why add-ons / HACS exist
clear ferry
addons 🤢
last kiln
If I had it my way, there'd be no blue and no references to "home"
subtle pasture
@clear ferry only using core 🤢
clear ferry
clever mortar
Because knowing how to run stuff is ... hard?
last kiln
If I use homeassistant at the office it says I'm "home" when I'm at work.
last kiln
No, my work is my home
last kiln
Not literally
But the management is getting kind of snarky about me being here at 2AM
Also the example interfaces on the website are dated. There are some cool ones in the forums that I'd rather see in action rather than screenshots.
deft pewter
0 hours here. I don't want the extra pay, I want my personal time to myself 😄
clear ferry
pssh, I'm happy with 115 hours
I'm used to 400-700
🤣
I can do most of my overtime while doing other stuff, even more so with the WFH situation
put 400 servers on update, go down stairs put daughter to bed, go up again afterwards
midnight adder
hey dudes, finally got my RPI3 working and over the moon with my little automations so far!
simple but effective!
deft pewter
Still counts as working. If they only paid us for the time we actually pressed buttons, we wouldn't get paid much at all.
clear ferry
pi 🤢
clear ferry
Now if only Microsoft would make Teams behave properly with Bluetooth audio devices in linux
that would be great
hushed basalt
Got an email from a prospective employer at 8.30pm
But ill wait till tomorrow to reply
Don't want to set a bad precident
deft pewter
Speaking of Linux... I gave up on trying to get the graphics drivers working with Debian. Going with Docker on Ubuntu instead 😂
clear ferry
y'all missing out
Hmmm, apparently there are fixes in ubuntu 20.10 for my bt issues
better do an upgrade
deft pewter
Non-LTS? 🤢
hushed basalt
For personal desktop use? Don't really need LTS
eager geyser
hi
clear ferry
Here doggie doggie
deft pewter
Woof
I'll almost exclusively use SSH now that it's set up, so I would have preferred non GUI. Just couldn't get the bloody thing to work with Debian, even when not selecting a DE during setup.
clear ferry
that is pretty strange tbh
does it have DSUB outputs or only HDMI ?
I had some issues on my chinese minicomputer with hdmi
dsub worked fine though
deft pewter
Only HDMI. I considered grabbing an adaptor and plugging it into an old monitor but that felt like too much effort
clear ferry
orly
last dirge
do you have a hypothesis about Tinkerer?
!seen Tinkerer
.seen Tinkerer
what's up with that, @velvet horizon
clever mortar
I am never seen, just heard 😛
last dirge
last I checked it was over 3 weeks since you were here
orchid rose
Tinkerer is likely based on same technology as this https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1006531/The AI Girlfriend Seducing China’s Lonely Men/
lethal light
Hello everyone, I have now installed the HACS on my RPI2 and also linked it to Github. In the HACS menu, however, has been saying "HACS is setting up, during this time some information might be missing or incorrect" for 2 days
clever mortar
See #integrations-archived and the channel topic here 😉
peak cloud
Hey, work with what ya got!
clever mortar
Don't tell him that, he'll spin up the Cray
peak cloud
Not all of us can have an hex-socket octo-core 69.420THz processor supercomputer.
orchid rose
or we choose not to
clear ferry
hearty depot
lol, Nice read for EU boys https://www.statewatch.org/media/1510/eu-council-encryption-declaration-13084-20-rev1.pdf
winter heath
Now if only Microsoft would make Teams behave properly with Bluetooth audio devi...
Microsoft can't make Teams work properly on their own OS. You're awfully optimistic thinking it'll happen on any other 😂
hearty depot
bt works fine in teams on my side. But the bult in does not
also screensharing does not work at all
turbid karma
I've just spent half a day and a couple of braincells trying to figure out why my motion sensor automation wasn't switching the lights off after 10 minutes. Turns out, that part works a lot better when you call turn_off instead of turn_on.
rancid wharf
Anyone know of a good place to ask some Shelly questions? I get the basics but have a couple projects I cannot figure out
shy comet
@rancid wharf probably in #hardware-archived or #general-archived or #diy-archived depending on what you want to do..check the channel topics to see which is more appropriate
deft pewter
i.e. not #the-water-cooler
shy comet
@turbid karma can't begin to tell you how often that happens hahah
"hey why doesnt this work"....next day oh look it was unplugged 🤦♂️
turbid karma
It's always good debugging practice to check the fundamentals first.
clever mortar
See #general-archived (as mentioned in the channel topic) if you're not sure where to ask
half heron
thanks you
deft pewter
We need a bot command for that 😂
deft pewter
It was tongue in cheek, dale
peak cloud
Lol, I just saw it come in on my notifications and figured I'd respond 😂
floral pulsar
Hum i got a big problem i do exacly the same as this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkBcGl7Vq8s&ab_channel=KPeyanski and now i can't connec to my home assistant
clever mortar
Hang on, I got this!
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
Or, more seriously, see your install method channel
floral pulsar
oups sorry
light trout
Nah... I got this!
velvet horizonBOT
deft pewter
Not even a first time offender...
light trout
Sorry :(
clever mortar
That's ok, we can GIF them to death
light trout
All jokes aside, if you do not know what you are doing when enabling remote access, you should not even attempt to try it untill you actually set yourself into what it actually would do, how it works, and how to best protect your self from common mistakes
floral pulsar
so were i can post ? my thing because Installation method chanel i only for installation
clever mortar
No
It never ceases to amaze me how much people get stuck on a word
No matter what those channels are called, people don't believe it when they're told to ask there
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
☝️
light trout
I have a word for you! ||Ha! Made you look||
clever mortar
||That's not fair||
shy comet
can we try an experiment and rename this channel to #random or #no_support and create something like a #lobby specifcally designed for "where do i go" or at the very least make #general-archived the very first channel people see after welcome rules?
i feel like the lounge should be moved somewhere that its not easily found near the top
better yet move the lobby section below everythingn else lol
install channels should be the first thing new peopel see
deft pewter
#directions
shy comet
i mean installing HA is the first thing people do anyways 😛
light trout
You would think that
light trout
You have probably gotten an issue or 2 in the android repo where someone download the app, but didn have ha setup
shy comet
@light trout thats most of the 1 star reviews in teh play store
"i installed this app and I cant figure what to do next"
shy comet
maybe its a good opportunity to put a link to the HA homepage on the first screen 🤔
light trout
Maybe list it as a requirement in the app description
shy comet
we do
Home Assistant for Android requires that you have access to a Home Assistant instance.
clever mortar
Just ask how well #read-this-before-you-post has worked on the HACS discord 😛
shy comet
touche
clever mortar
I've had people get damned abusive when I point that channel out 😉
light trout
I kicked them
clear ferry
I did consider it for a moment, then I just found out all I need is in Plex, Disney+ and Netflix, all norwegian TV is free to watch anyway ⛹️♀️
deft pewter
Same. Minus the shitty Norwegian TV.
obsidian ibex
do esp32 boards get hot? lol. It's a ttgo beam, waiting on project boxes from china, wondering if a cardboard box will do in the meantime
deft pewter
They get warm, not hot. Cardboard will be fine.
subtle pasture
Just ask how well `#read-this-before-you-post` has worked on the HACS discord 😛
Works better when you have a role-bot that needs to be interacted with before you're granted the role that allows you to see any other channels 😛
shy comet
ive seen discord servers where a user has to enter the words "accept" into the rules and then tehre is a 2 minute wait period before thigns open up
because if you stop them from immediately asking a quiestion they will look elsewhere
light trout
Well.. HACS has that as well...
shy comet
id love that...users have to ask the bot for #the-water-cooler permissions
until then they dont even see it
shy comet
didnt we do that for the status stuff?
light trout
Correct
deft pewter
Can we do it? Pretty please?
Couple that with no-warning bans for asking in #the-water-cooler after you've confirmed to the bot that you won't ask in #the-water-cooler 🤣
clear ferry
grand thicket
"How do install on my 1999 Windows XP?". I feel like this is the best channel to ask 😂
last cedar
You can't install it on 1999 windows XP
grand thicket
@last cedar That's the joke 😂
subtle pasture
@grand thicket That's some quality shitposting. Absolutely the right channel. lol
Also, 1999?
Windows XP wasn't released until August 24th, 2001.
Windows 2000 was only released December 15th of 1999, so that'd just barely make the cut
Oh, happy birthday Windows 2000. December 15th was yesterday O.o
Windows 2000 is officially old enough to drink (21)
grand thicket
@subtle pasture I'm not sure, I think the computer was built in 98... It may be 88
subtle pasture
Shh, we're buying Windows 2000 beer now
grand thicket
It's crazy to think that some of these operating systems are either as old or older then me
deft pewter
inb4 Tinkerer goes on about being able to tell the baud rate from the dial-up tones...
subtle pasture
@deft pewter I mean, back with 300 and 600 baud modems were common, you could absolutely hear the difference
deft pewter
I'm not disputing that. Was just getting there before Tinkerer tells us his old man tales.
subtle pasture
Logging into a BBS at 300 baud was an experience... literally watching each character draw-in as it's downloaded
Note: I'm only 30, but my dad was a hardcore Commodore fanboy, and kept his Amigas around way past when he should have
last cedar
When Tinkerer was born, it was so long ago, people didn't even see in colour.
allegedly
clever mortar
Not my fault I pre-date the epoch 😛
last cedar
Oh, hi Tinkerer!
subtle pasture
Hah
last cedar
❤️
clever mortar
I've just had more years to accumulate random knowledge - most of which seems to be useless, until it's not any more 😄
subtle pasture
@clever mortar How does one write your birthday in Unix time? Negative number?
last cedar
Knowledge is never useless . Unless you forget that you have knowledge
clever mortar
Oh yeah, it's amazing how often that "useless" knowledge comes in handy
deft pewter
<@!332579266623438848> How does one write your birthday in Unix time? Negative n...
I think you'd get an integer overflow in either direction, tbh 😄
last cedar
I agree with that. When you are the only person that remembers how to do something obscure at work. And you don't even need to look it up.
deft pewter
Obscure things no-one else in a giant office knows how to do? You mean like washing your hands after taking a dump?
subtle pasture
@last cedar That's me a lot of the time, in addition to my actual job description
Random ADDS / networking / virtualization / security / exchange / etc. problem? Seems to eventually get shot my way 😛
We finally hired another engineer who can competently use Linux, so at least that load gets shared now...
last cedar
Anyone can sudo apt-get update though 😂
subtle pasture
25 people on staff, and they all just do Windows server... it's wild...
last cedar
(joking, I am an absolute moron when it comes to linux)
subtle pasture
That said, 99% of the servers we manage are Windows servers, so...
last cedar
It sounds like that is a good thing tbh, and you sound incredibly valuable for them
subtle pasture
Job security++
last cedar
I am hoping to take 3 big certs soon before next pay discussion and be able to squeeze them a bit. Will make buying a house easier.
Yes, exactly
I feel the same way tbh, not last person in, and can do 90-100% of all the systems apart from maybe 2, that we have other people do for us.
deft pewter
Hi Bob
graceful lily
Hey there, I´m new to HA and new to Discord. For now i´m just looking for recommendations for beginners tutorials. Prefer preferably Videos?
clever mortar
Is he your uncle?
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
Start at https://www.home-assistant.io/getting-started/ and move to https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/ next 😉
clear ferry
Bob might be his aunt, don't be like that 🤕
graceful lily
Would appreciate some Video tutorials. Easier – ADD you know 😄
I managed to install Hassio on a rpi 4. For now all my Devices work flawless. ZHA with CC2652 45 Devices, Hue Bridge 33 Devices, Ikea Bridge 9 Devices, Yeelight 2 Devices, Google Cast 3 Devices, a printer etc. Created some basic Automations and Scenes in UI. But that’s all I can do. Complete noob. So some Basic Tut to follow threw and learn would be nice.
clever mortar
There's a load of them out there, DrZzs Discord has a lot of links to them, but ... we know from bitter experience that they're outdated fast, and cause confusion as a result
You're talking about a platform that has a new release every three weeks.... things move fast 😉
forest edge
not anymore..
graceful lily
I noticed got zha map installed last week now its in the release. Waste of time …
clever mortar
True, it's gone from fortnightly, to three weekly, to monthly
Oh. My. Does that mean it's grinding to a halt 😱
forest edge
might mean less discord questions about bugs.. think positive not negative!
clever mortar
It's ok, Blue will offset that by introducing a new wave of users who bought it pre-installed, then broke it 😛
forest edge
i dunno, it don't have have wifi
clever mortar
True, there'll be a wave of users asking how to connect it to WiFi 🤣
forest edge
my wifi don't work!
clever mortar
Have you tried turning it on and then off again?
graceful lily
Got it no Vids ☹ Ok so basically, I should google each individual topic and read on it? For now my questions seem so broad and simple. Like: How to group lights; How to disable and enable specific automations if others are triggered; which editor to use; YMAL Basics; lovelace basics etc.
clever mortar
See the relevant channels 😉
#automations-archived , #frontend-archived for Lovelace, #general-archived for YAML, #integrations-archived for groups/lights/etc
We can help you
(probably)
forest edge
HACS keeps trying to tell me to remove the calendar card but I keep giving it the finger.. I'm a rebel!
graceful lily
ok thx i´ll be off reading the doc.
clever mortar
(grouping lights - light.group, disable/enable automations - many ways, editor - vim)
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
And that 😉
last dirge
dem packages doe
clear ferry
obsidian ibex
They get warm, not hot. Cardboard will be fine.
I hope ur right
deft pewter
It's a bit... basic
clear ferry
This is why I bought a 3d printer
So I can print dildo molds according to @deft pewter
deft pewter
According to me? You're the one that asked me to create the mold.
I'm happy with my non-Debian journey so far, atx. Trying my hand at docker-compose for the first time ever. It's going well.
Bye, bye, add-ons 😄
HA, z2m, MariaDB, Mosquitto and AppDaemon all running fine together. Tomorrow's task will be to start migrating config.
sand agate
Is anyone else having issues with community.home-assistant.io?
clever mortar
Somebody was having issues with the main site