And that dude wanted to go private with you π€£π€£π€£π
#the-water-cooler
green inlet
clear ferry
not everyone is as daring as you Pedro
green inlet
I will go private with you anytime you big stud. πππ₯°
clear ferry
green inlet
By the way, you ruined my childhood. Seeing Kermit beat-off is a whole new level in my brain π€£π€£π€£π
clear ferry
I thought you had a ruined childhood already, but who am I to judge, I can ruin it further
πββοΈ
deft pewter
Eventually. Looks like Fabian started reviewing it, he's already checked my PyPi package.
green inlet
I didnβt become demented, jaded, and cynical until later in life. π€
And Mono is the object of Kermits obsession? π₯°π
clear ferry
Eventually. Looks like Fabian started reviewing it, he's already checked my PyPi...
:NUT:
dull belfry
I'm currently moving and painting etc. going to place Shelly's in the light switches. I'm not sure but does every light switch have the cables required for shelly?
clear ferry
no
dull belfry
house was built in 1979
clever mortar
Well, depends on where in the world you live...
clever mortar
Check the local wiring standard back in the 70s to see if you have neutral to the switches
dull belfry
thanks!
clear ferry
or in proper dutch NEUUUUTRAAAAAAHHHHL
dull belfry
π
clear ferry
How is my dutch phonetics doing ?
dull belfry
pretty impressive
clear ferry
turbid stirrup
zwaait
clear ferry
noice, I've moved 9 docker containers to compose
just 6 to go
and then a few more jails to move over
while doing PRINCE2 training π€ and attending a planning meeting for a major HPC upgrade
bitches see me multitasking, they be hating
deft pewter
PRINCE2 π€’
clever mortar
You mean ... while ignoring the training and "being present" on a call
clever mortar
You mean, you can do one thing while pretending to do the others π
clear ferry
which is why I'm currently looking for 3 4k monitors π€£
I can actually distribute brain capacity to multiple subjects at once, which is why my wife hates me so much π¦
tame sand
atx has deployed so many cpus even his brain uses multithreading now.
clear ferry
deft pewter
I don't think that's why your wife hates you though, atx.
clear ferry
clear ferry
atx has deployed so many cpus even his brain uses multithreading now.
By that, do you mean sockets or cores, because the latter would be in the millions π€£
Also, do you mean SMP or HT ? π€
or other fake threads
deft pewter
You're a fake thread.
low harness
That googly eyes picture was strangely trypophobia-inducing.
clear ferry
my wife would love it
I should do more tryptophobia you say ?
Eat some lotus fruits
rare condor
I had my couch too near to the roller blinds and when the automated blinds closed they got caught in the couch and knocked over a vase, ripped themselves and proceeded to smash into my tv creating a dead pixel.
rare condor
*roller blinds π
clear ferry
tv close to windows π€’
rare condor
I should probs get a track installed so this can''t happen again
deft pewter
Dead heart in a dead world. atx's autobiography.
clear ferry
π¦
clear ferry
deft pewter
Not Pepe again. You remember what happened last time π
clear ferry
bitter pawn
brazen fable
I bet atx is really a micro atx
peak cloud
I agree with @deft pewter... @clear ferry is definitely a fake thread.
And holy turdballs, those googly eyes are efβn terrifying.
peak cloud
That table looks like itβs been handled by @rare condor
rare condor
lol
peak cloud
Holy crap! I just found a $20k couch for only $60!! I need to get off my butt and go pick it up RIGHT NOW!!
brisk glen
and before its infested
rare condor
Yesterday I cut all my light bulbs in half:
peak cloud
Totally worth $60!
last cedar
Why are you writing about it here. Gogogo!
peak cloud
Itβs the most beautiful thing Iβve seen today.
rare condor
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and solid for $60.
clever mortar
And sometimes the beholder is blind π€
rare condor
Make sure to add ESP8266 and butt sensors
peak cloud
I donβt have anyone to help me pound it onto the trailer.
I need 4 helpers to lay it with me.
rare condor
The question is who is @clever mortar referring to π
peak cloud
@clever mortar Iβm glad you saw it too. ππ€£π
My solo stove campfires arrive today!! I am so stoked, even though I wonβt be able to use it anytime soon.
rare condor
Also do you think its bad I cut all my light bulbs in half? I feel bad dremeling all my light bulbs just so they can run open source software. Really seems a bit insane the more I think about it.
peak cloud
You know, tuya-convert is a real thing.
rare condor
Yeah they have the PSK patch in the new models π¦
and strong epoxy
so dremeling was my outlet
peak cloud
So even the latest tuya-convert doesnβt circumvent the PSK?
rare condor
nope
peak cloud
Did you at least...try?
peak cloud
You gave up after 2 hours??! No wonder it didnβt work. π€¦π»ββοΈ
rare condor
I have done Tuya Convert for so many devices
"Please note that the new version of this bulb that comes in a cardboard box are using the TYLC5 module which does not work via tuya-convert."
According to ESPhome so I went the more exciting dremel route π
peak cloud
Lame. Why canβt companies just allow their stuff to be integrated with OSS? Some products would sell soooo much better if they didnβt lock them down.
rare condor
indeed
peak cloud
You saw the TP-Link Reddit discussion the other day?
rare condor
Disabling LAN control
rare condor
Forcing people to use a service they are disabling in 2022 resulting in hardware brick in 2 years
peak cloud
Hmm...reminds me of Logitech. 
rare condor
Planned Obsolesce ftw! π₯
peak cloud
Speaking of closed source stuff...I used to be obsessed with the line of Christmas lights that Philips released, Philips Illuminate.
I wanted to reverse engineer it, but never got around to it. Well, now Iβm obsessed with a much better product and itβs already been reverse engineered! Twinkly Christmas lights!!!
peak cloud
Umm, no. Last year was WLED+WS2811 stings. π
last dirge
shit that's expensive
peak cloud
Expensive, but worth the pizza dough.
last dirge
two fiddy
peak cloud
My old DIY setup failed after a few months due to corrosion.
Two fiddy for like the most expensive string. The most expensive tree is $116,000...
Yes, $116k Christmas trees do exist apparently π
clear ferry
Eh, I bought the 250 twinkly for $60 ish last year, the 150 one was $40 this year on black Friday
But I'll try to get up the remaining 700 ws2811 on friday
last dirge
not much cheaper from the big rock candy mountain
clear ferry
I bought the ws2811 last 11.11 around 900 of them for $60 or something
That'll cover most of my house facade
peak cloud
I learned about Twinkly last year but only the trees, not the strings. π¦ Otherwise I would have jumped on them.
Where was the 150 on sale for $40 this year?!
peak cloud
I got the 400 direct from Christmas Designers a couple weeks ago for $157, and was able to score a 250 on Black friday for $90.
night zodiac
when the sun isn't behind the tree
peak cloud
@night zodiac That doesn't look like a Twinkly tree.
peak cloud
WS2811 tree?
night zodiac
that picture looks terrible. I need a new one. No, just a tree.
I wish I got it with just white lights
next year I might just replace all of the bulbs with white
peak cloud
Oh man.
That reminds me...
Back in the day when I was a younglin', way before blue Christmas lights were a thing...my dad and I used to hand-dip every single bulb in blue dye just so we could have blue Christmas lights on the house.
night zodiac
dedicated
peak cloud
@hearty depot Is that your video? If so, did you map the lights?
https://www.christmasdesigners.com/christmas-lights/animated-rgb-christmas-lights/twinkly-retail-rgb-christmas-lights.html -- they're still on sale if anyone wants some.
hearty depot
nope,ll share later a pic of my tree
Just wanted to share twinkly
frozen fulcrum
damn breh
i'm freshly installed and new to this software (HA) and it's so awesome and i've barely customized yet
night zodiac
I thought about those trees quite a bit but decided on a tree that isn't going to be buck wild in the room
peak cloud
Oh, and they have the $116k Christmas tree still in stock if any of you guys want one: https://www.christmasdesigners.com/40-twinkly-pro-rgb-majestic-mountain-pine-tree.html
night zodiac
"yes, Twinkly. My 40' tree isn't syncing with the app."
peak cloud
π
@frozen fulcrum Just wait until 0.119.0 drops in a couple weeks...it's going to include the Twinkly integration!!! π
frozen fulcrum
_>
peak cloud
Man, I miss the days of having to spend 1.5 hours building open-zwave, and having to wait 10 minutes for HA to restart after every single config change. π¦
shy comet
lol
peak cloud
"Back in my day we used to restart HA uphill both ways!"
night zodiac
I am spending the day restarting my HA installation from scratch
I think I am going to use the official nest integration for everything I can and fill in the cracks with bad nest for the temperature sensors.
fun
peak cloud
I don't miss Nest, not even the slightest bit. π
night zodiac
hopefully they just add the temperature sensors and I won't care about it
shy comet
yea i gotta set that up at my parents house sicne they got nest for free
they are liking HA now that i got it set up for them
been a fun experiment setting it up and managing things remotely
stable flint
is plex worth the 5 per month for features? i currently have netlfix and spotify family (both are 15/month)
clever mortar
I bought their lifetime sub a long time ago, well worth that for me
stable flint
how much is the lifetime sub?
night zodiac
$119.99 USD at the moment
clever mortar
stable flint
ah ok
night zodiac
you can just do it monthly until you see a deal
The hardware acceleration is neat. It lets my little NAS forward 4k to my chromecasts no problem.
stable flint
thanks for the info!
shy comet
i got lucky and got one of those 50% off deals so lifetime was 75 π
stable flint
wow
night zodiac
yep. that's a good deal. I wasn't aware of the deals and just bought it full price.
If I use it for three years, it will be cheaper than paying yearly
'been using plex for a long time though
dull belfry
I'm a happy free plex user π
night zodiac
how dare you
dull belfry
i got tiny media manager for trailers and metadata and bazarr for subtitles
shy comet
lol
subtle pasture
Heh, I bought a lifetime pass when $70 was full price
I literally moved from Windows Media Center to Plex somewhere around 2008. lol
I think I ran them both in parallel until about 2013, when WMC was officially dead
night zodiac
I still have an Xbox original with XBMC on it
odd kindle
Spent the last 30 minutes hand coding an svg logo and then optimizing it down byte for byte. This can't be a healthy behaviour, I'm starting to question my sanity
I got the lifetime pass like 6 yeasr ago. Such a good purchase. Plex have been really good imho
subtle pasture
The big reason we kept WMC around for so long was because of the TV Tuner / cablecard support
Plex didn't add DVR capabilities until much, much later... and it still doesn't support CableCard, you need a 3rd party solution for that
odd kindle
I ran WMC for a while as well, but I didn't trust it so I ended up having all content on two systems and realize that was just stupid
subtle pasture
There are people who still keep a Windows 8.1 box around, with the last version of WMC installed, loaded with TV tuners, because there's no better option
odd kindle
What's the purpose for it? To record tv?
subtle pasture
Usually as a centralization point for live TV and TV recordings (+ timeshifting and DVR capabilities)
So instead of having 6 cable boxes around the house, they'll have a PC with three dual tuners installed
night zodiac
back in the day we used 'em for DVRs
odd kindle
I see. I haven't had a need to record tv for the past 8 years at least. Our set up boxes have a feature where you can replay old episodes of anything I would ever want to watch later.
subtle pasture
You can't actually do that with Plex if you need CableCard support to descramble the channels, only Windows Media Center can do that
night zodiac
yeah, we used windows media center back in the day I am pretty sure
subtle pasture
Microsoft actually worked out contracts with cable companies to make that happen
night zodiac
somewhere around the time windows ME was released, lol
odd kindle
We also just have tv via fiber, there's no descrabling that we can do without the set up box π¦
night zodiac
we used to use IR to automate channel changes, lol
and record based on schedules
all types of different points of my life
subtle pasture
Windows Media Center actually handles that as well. You can connect the video-out of a cable box to a video capture device on the PC, and WMC will use an IR Blaster to change the channel on the set-top-box
It was a seriously robust DVR solution (it kind of had to be, it was competing with TiVo)
night zodiac
oh, we had TiVo too at one point, lol
subtle pasture
WMC was TiVo on steroids. lol
odd kindle
Anyways... I'm gonna jump into a call with a psychologist and talk about what would make me hand code and optimize svgs. I'm sure there's a decent enough reason.
night zodiac
eventually my father became one of the largest satellite box distributors for NA
we had the most wild setups
we had so many satellites on our roof
we had test setups too for like the satellites on motors. You would change channel and according to what satellite it was on, the motor would move and point to that satellite
echostar was the name of the satellites we would mainly hit, lol
I used to be pretty good at hitting it during setups
looks like dish networks relationship with echostar is a bit different now days
subtle pasture
I remember before Plex's built-in DVR was a thing, we'd have WMC dump recordings into Plex's library. lol
Couldn't watch live TV with Plex, but you'd get the recordings as soon as the show finished
subtle pasture
Yeaaah, we had 3 OG Xbox's that were used exclusively for XBMC
subtle pasture
It was, unfortunately, never stable enough to pass the WAF test
night zodiac
I need to put some new capacitors in it if they haven't leaked everywhere yet
subtle pasture
It was also a HUGE bitch to keep all the media scraped, because XBMC has no real centralization
night zodiac
yeah, adding RAM to the xbox was a pain and I only saw it done by like one person
literally soldered RAM into the mobo
subtle pasture
So you had these old Pentium 3 systems scraping metadata for 10 TB of content for hours, and hours
night zodiac
yeah, it was back in the day for sure. haha
subtle pasture
And each one had to redo it... and god forbid something scanned wrong on one, because you had to manually fix it on all of them
XBMC really felt like it fell apart as soon as there was more than one system running it
night zodiac
I mean Kodi still seems to be pretty popular
I've never used it under that name myself
subtle pasture
Yeah, I have the same issue with it, because it hasn't changed structurally π
night zodiac
but so many non tech savvy people have told me to use it, lol
subtle pasture
Except now, a decade later, there are backend servers you can use to access media via Kodi
Plex, Jellyfin, Emby, etc.
At which point, Kodi is just a glorified media player
night zodiac
yep. Plex took over for me quickly back in the day.
"back in the day"
= I have no idea what year
subtle pasture
I only have some idea because I know WMC's timeline
peak cloud
Hey @subtle pasture, you like stats right? π
subtle pasture
WMC had a good run. Launched in 2003, last version was released in 2013
night zodiac
I just remember using our prebuilt PC that came with windows ME
and we swapped that very fast
RIP windows ME
subtle pasture
Yeaaaah, ME wasn't a terribly great product
subtle pasture
Oh, from a technical standpoint? The biggest issue is they shipped it with Internet Explorer 5.5 Beta 3
And the shell used web integration
So beta IE 5.5 libraries were loaded as part of Explorer...
As soon as you update the OS to a stable version of IE, it's about as stable as Win98 SE
But ME has the advantage of having Windows 2000's network stack ported over, so it can actually STILL function to some degree on a modern Windows network, where as 98 SE can't
So if you need a Windows 9x environment with networking, ME is your baby, oddly enough. It turns up in weird places because of that...
peak cloud
Reason I asked about stats was because I just cooked this up based on someone's idea of clocking HA restart times: https://gist.github.com/dale3h/417f3e6fc2fc12a3e7c71fbeac5325c1 -- it measures the time it takes for HA to restart, from the shutdown event to the start event.
subtle pasture
Interesting, though this can't tell the difference between restarting the HA container, and restarting the entire OS
Except that one scenario will take inordinately longer than the other
peak cloud
True. It doesn't distinguish between the two, unfortunately.
subtle pasture
You might be able to add that functionality. I believe HA has an optional sensor you can enable that reports boot time vs. container start time.
peak cloud
...please, enlighten me.
subtle pasture
- platform: systemmonitor
resources:
- type: last_boot```Holy jeebus. Thank you!
subtle pasture
systemmonitor can report a bunch of things from the host, including CPU/memory use, disk use, etc.
peak cloud
I am totally going to add all of those now. π Thanks!
stable flint
do you have the page to the integration? i would love to have those as im running on a pi so i also get the power supply checker
subtle pasture
But the Last Boot timestamp will let your monitor distinguish between host boot time, and container start time π
velvet horizonBOT
stable flint
thanks!
subtle pasture
Good bot!
stable flint
#goodbot
peak cloud
And that, my friends, is the difference between tweeters and redditors.
stable flint
.goodbot
subtle pasture
@peak cloud You can also do this to get uptime minutes of the container with the following sensor:
- platform: uptime
name: Uptime Minutes
unit_of_measurement: minutes```I have uptime enabled currently, but didn't know about System Monitor until now.
subtle pasture
Ah, gotcha
peak cloud
Do you have last_boot setup currently? I am curious as to the type of value it reports.
subtle pasture
I do, it reports a full timestamp: 2020-09-13T22:37:16-07:00
My Pi has been up for 11 weeks π
peak cloud
Perfect, thank you!
And wow, that's almost a a full quarter!
I really need to order some CFA. I am soooo hungry.
subtle pasture
Yeah, it's about time to run an OS update. I rebooted HomeAssistant itself last night to install 0.118.4
peak cloud
Twinkly integration is coming in 0.119.0! I am so excited!
stable flint
i wonder if i should just buy a twinkly instead..
i was counting the number of strings i would need which came out to about 130, and you could buy a tree for that
subtle pasture
Ok, I must have missed something. What's Twinkly? π
stable flint
leds designed for christmas trees
the app lets you customize the led's in an order of a christmas tree, not in a single line
so you can have layers of color for example
peak cloud
Do you have 22 minutes free to watch a video?
stable flint
lol
peak cloud
If so, you're welcome: https://youtu.be/OSCjQ6lI6bo
deft pewter
Twinkly is an overpriced, newbie-friendly version of WS2812B projects.
subtle pasture
Heh, how does it map the lights once a human randomly spews them all over a tree?
peak cloud
WS2812B are 5V bruh.
clever mortar
But it comes with an app so you can "draw" the patterns you want π
deft pewter
What's wrong with 5v?
clever mortar
So, advanced and also newbie friendly π
stable flint
but noob friendly
peak cloud
5050 is the LED size.
deft pewter
No shortage of addressable LEDs.
peak cloud
WS2811 and WS2815 come in 12V
stable flint
2811 comes in 5v? i thought it was 12v only
peak cloud
Twinkly are worth the money, in my opinion. But then again, I also think Hue is worth the money. "It just works."
WS2811 comes in 5V and 12V.
deft pewter
But where's the fun in 'it just works'? Tinkering is half the fun.
subtle pasture
@peak cloud Strictly speaking, it's possible to design a 5v strip that will work at-distance, but it'll be more expensive because it will need an integrated buck/boost converter every so many feet
Also, the amp draw would get a bit nutty at 5v...
peak cloud
WS2812/WS2812B comes in 5V. WS2813 comes in 5V, but has a redundant data line. WS2815 is the 12V version of WS2813.
deft pewter
Just use heavy gauge wiring π
peak cloud
For what it's worth, I had a 5V WS2812B strip with 144 LEDs/m, and it faded quite a bit toward the last 15% of the strip. And that was using a hefty PSU.
But yeah, I tried the DIY route previously. Even designed a PCB to manage 4 channels of WLED boards.
subtle pasture
Yeah, poorly designed strip. Could have probably done with current limiting resistors (slowly decreasing in value down the strip) to maintain even brightness
peak cloud
It corroded before summer came. π¦
It was an Adafruit strip if that tells you anything.
deft pewter
If the length of the strips is the problem, why not run multiple shorter lengths instead? I'm not saying I don't see the appeal in Twinkly, I'd just rather find my own solution.
stable flint
will the new integration be local or cloud polling?
peak cloud
When it comes to Christmas lights, it's difficult/cumbersome to inject power on most homes.
Which also means it's not easy to send power to multiple strips.
Sure, an extension cord run alongside the lights would help.
deft pewter
I'm probably thinking smaller than you guys. I'd only care about a smaller tree inside my house, not all the billions of lights some Americans have π
subtle pasture
Lol, I'm watching the linked video now.
He held up the box and it said "Generation 11" and my first thought was "woah, how long have they been making these things??"
stable flint
i have about 10 reels of old fashioned christmas lights collecting dust in my basement
subtle pasture
Poor labeling, it's Generation 2...
Roman numerals in sans-serif fonts are a bad π idea π
peak cloud
i have about 10 reels of old fashioned christmas lights collecting dust in my ba...
I have 5L of gasoline in my Jeep that'll help you take care of those.
peak cloud
Mmmm yummy! I canβt wait!!
subtle pasture
Chick-fil-a π€’
peak cloud
#ByeFelicia
subtle pasture
I literally just watched The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert a couple days ago. lol
peak cloud
F*ck. Tornado sirens are going off.
subtle pasture
The irony of using that quote in proximity to Chick-fil-a was not lost on me
peak cloud
I've never heard of The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert π€·
clever mortar
Now you know what to watch next
subtle pasture
That's where "Bye Felicia" is from...
clear ferry
For what it's worth, I had a 5V WS2812B strip with 144 LEDs/m, and it faded quit...
I currently have 200 ws2811 on my setup, hooking 200 more on that same PSU Friday, and doing 400 on the other PSU , just injectiing on both ends per 200 now, works fine
peak cloud
Are you sure?
peak cloud
I thought it was from Friday.
clear ferry
Great movie@subtle pasture
subtle pasture
The phrase "Bye, Felicia" was first used in a scene in the Australian road comedy film The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert (1994), a film about two drag queens that is well-known in the gay community. A year later, it was used again in the American comedy film Friday (1995) (actually spelled "Felisha" in the cast listing)
clear ferry
Hugo weaving was great in it
peak cloud
"This article is about the phrase originating from the 1995 film Friday."
subtle pasture
it was used in both, Priscilla did it first.
peak cloud
Interesting!
I'll have to check that out. I've always known it to be from Friday. π
subtle pasture
@clear ferry Hugo Weaving was suuuuper young in that movie
clever mortar
I am beginning to realise that playing Trivial Pursuit against @subtle pasture would be a losing proposition ....
subtle pasture
It also stars Guy Pearce and Terence Stamp
peak cloud
"Alexa, tell plex server to download The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert"
stable flint
yoo wait is that possible?
peak cloud
It is. π
subtle pasture
Be prepared for a wholesome roadtrip movie revolving around drag culture
stable flint
mmm i need to look into plex more
clear ferry
@clever mortar we need to make it so, HA discord trivial pursuit night
stable flint
i used it as a free user
clear ferry
π₯³
stable flint
but i ran it on a crappy mac that was collecting dust
so it just stopped working after a whille
subtle pasture
@peak cloud Wait, you're asking Plex to do the download? Not Radarr?
How'd you rig that up?
peak cloud
The free option for Plex is suitable for almost everyone. Mainly it's server owners that benefit from Plex Pass I think.
stable flint
well thinking about it now could i run plex and nextcloud on the same machine for the same drive?
stable flint
that will probably be enough motivation to get back into plex
peak cloud
Here's the skill: https://github.com/bobbintb/Ombi-alexa
subtle pasture
Cheers!
peak cloud
I made a few changes, namely adding support for a .env file so that the credentials didn't have to reside inside the script.
subtle pasture
I am beginning to realise that playing Trivial Pursuit against <@!20949265406754...
I do have a lot of random knowledge... this is true...
clever mortar
I had noticed π
IMO life is more fun when you manage to steadily acquire random knowledge
subtle pasture
You ever blurt something out, and then go "wait, brain, where the fuck were you storing THAT all these years?"
clever mortar
I do that at work too, where I help people solve problems by providing key details that I don't remember learning...
subtle pasture
Oh yeah, it's great when it happens at work. One of my favorite instances was when I got pulled over to help another engineer because he couldn't get logged into an ESXi host. It wouldn't accept the password he'd just set (and manually reset)
"What version of ESXi is this? ...oh, type the password and DO NOT hit the enter key. Click the login button next to the password field instead"
Logs right in
"How the FUCK did you know that?"
That particular version of ESXi had a bug with the password entry field. If you hit enter, it would parse the carriage return as part of the password, which would always fail
clear ferry
My wife says my random knowledge is quite annoying, also that its incredible how such a smart person can be so incredibly stupid about my general comprehension π€£
subtle pasture
I'd encountered it on my homelab, like, 2 years prior
obsidian ibex
New toy
clear ferry
Long boi
subtle pasture
@obsidian ibex https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VH7XT7Q
low harness
Heh. Remember when you had to buy boxes for like twice the cost of the components?
subtle pasture
I've used these before. Lots of sizes, ABS, easy to drill holes in
@low harness Yeah, and now it's a 5 pack for $8
obsidian ibex
Perfect, thank you
low harness
Some things weren't better back in the days.
subtle pasture
Those boxes + solderable breadboards = good times
That's how my garage door sensor is built
peak cloud
@obsidian ibex Sugru, Foam, Clay, Wood, Tupperware containers, etc.
subtle pasture
low harness
Did I ever show my z80 computer around here?
last cedar
I normally hang stuff like that in the cable π
subtle pasture
Socketed the ESP module so it can be replaced if need be
peak cloud
Woohoo! My Twinkly 250 string and Solo Stove Campfires arrived! Saw them on the porch when I went to grab my oh so amazingly delicious CFA that had been delivered. β€οΈ
I've found that socketing ESPs is the best way to go for that reason, as well as easier programming.
low harness
subtle pasture
I'm a little bit anal about my bodge wires...
I have a 3D printed form for making precise bends in them. lol
low harness
nice
stable flint
low harness
Looks like Ben Eaters.
subtle pasture
Yup, I'm subscribed to his YouTube channel. lol
obsidian ibex
AliExpress is looking like a winner for project boxes
@subtle pasture why blue wire so bent?
tropic hedge
sitting suggestively on your lap
obsidian ibex
Just ordered 9x 100x60x30mm project boxes for $15 from china
9 was all they had left
subtle pasture
@obsidian ibex Was running out of GPIOs on the other side of the ESP8266 module π
Had to pull one across the board
Ultrasonic sensor, temp/humidity sensor, PIR sensor, a relay, and a button. Was starting to get crowded...
obsidian ibex
Had to pull one across the board
I was trolling, the straight lines arnβt straight lol
barren hound
Ultrasonic sensor, temp/humidity sensor, PIR sensor, a relay, and a button. Was ...
You're almost to the point where you should just prototype some PCBs
lunar sundial
@barren hound found a great book
barren hound
hahaha, stealing
lunar sundial
subtle pasture
https://tenor.com/view/margaret-thatcher-appeasement-brexit-tory-gif-12725931
Got some synesthesia going on there...
forest edge
click to see attachment.. so dumb!
anyone who likes the new reply replacing quote should be whipped
barren hound
click to see attachment.. so dumb!
click to see attachment. πΌοΈ
barren hound
https://tenor.com/view/shame-go-t-game-of-thrones-walk-of-shame-shameful-gif-494...
What if that's my kink?
hahaha, the timing there was even better.
clear ferry
barren hound
I have the perfect thing, then...
I upgraded mine to Cat6A o' ninetails
clever mortar
I'm always disappointed nobody crossed an etherkiller with a catX-o-ninetails
barren hound
not an etherkiller, but i cannot confirm that a violet wand works well with exposed copper
clear ferry
I did have that HP A10500 with Poe boards that were delivering POE on all ports without anything connected
I welded a rack bar with a connected cable
barren hound
I did have that HP A10500 with Poe boards that were delivering POE on all ports ...
that sounds "safe"
clear ferry
Well, it was only 256 ports of 25000
I checked the rest
Limited to the one power supply in one 10500
barren hound
i meant using HP switches π
clear ferry
We did fry a few access points, and a few medical equipment devices
forest edge
same thing.
subtle pasture
waits for someone to invent a PoE powered violet wand...
clear ferry
To be fair, the A series is 3COM Huawei
barren hound
god, i miss old school 3com
barren hound
3C905-TX
subtle pasture
Didn't 3COM get purchased by HP?
clear ferry
905... Youngling, give me 509
subtle pasture
I've encountered a large number of old "HP" switches that are really 3COM rebrands
barren hound
the only 10/100 NIC that worked out of the box every time. no muss, no fuss
barren hound
I've encountered a large number of old "HP" switches that are really 3COM rebran...
HP or Procurve?
clear ferry
@subtle pasture 3com merged with Huawei, and formed H3C, HPE purchased majority in H3C but we currently own 49%
subtle pasture
Ah, that explains the overlap ^
clear ferry
Procurve was a seperate company, that was merged into hp
subtle pasture
Also, this would have been before HP and HPE were two distinct entities
clear ferry
Which is now a subsidiary of Aruba
barren hound
switch/routing incestuous relationships requires a spaghetti diagram
subtle pasture
HP splitting into HP and HPE caused all sorts of hell with our inventory management system
forest edge
does hanging a sheet between two walls really separate you as your own entity tho?
clear ferry
@subtle pasture don't forget micro focus, dxc and the others
clever mortar
does hanging a sheet between two walls really separate you as your own entity th...
It worked for BT and BT OpenReach for long enough
forest edge
lol
barren hound
I still like my Barney brand switches.
subtle pasture
We use HPE / Aruba switches at work, I opted for Cisco at home
Except for my APs, those are Aruba
subtle pasture
Hey, shit works
clear ferry
barren hound
@clear ferry What do you use? Linksys WRT54GLs?
forest edge
the cisco device tracker for HA is flawless.. just sayin
barren hound
the unifi one works well, too π (start the flame wars up)
subtle pasture
@forest edge The Aruba one works great as well
I have it tied directly to my IAPs
There's a Bluetooth / Zigbee add-on for the Aruba IAPs as well... expensive, though
forest edge
i thought cisco had something like that as well
barren hound
There's * for the Aruba IAPs... expensive, though.
subtle pasture
@barren hound I've actually been able to get second-hand Aruba kit fairly cheap. The USB dongle that adds bluetooth and zigbee support is just hard to come by
My Aruba IAPs were cheaper than the equivalent Ubiquiti hardware, by a long shot.
clear ferry
<@!457673488225009676> What do you use? Linksys WRT54GLs?
MSM466 for lab and iot, Linksys mesh for regular WiFi, procurve 2820 for distribution, hp 5900af pair in core with 40g stacking and opnsense router if you must know π€£
clear ferry
There's a Bluetooth / Zigbee add-on for the Aruba IAPs as well... expensive, tho...
HWAT
deft pewter
Prosumer... π€’
clear ferry
@deft pewter but, I'm enterprise π€
forest edge
A little dusty but still works
clear ferry
A little dusty but still works
And you say I'm the collector of old shit
forest edge
if only you could see that mess off to the left of that picture lol
subtle pasture
@clear ferry This little guy: https://www.cdw.com/product/aruba-ap-usb-zb-10pk-usb-zb-ble-dngl/5885282
Plugs into the USB port on a number of different Aruba APs and adds all kinds of IoT features
barren hound
MSM466 for lab and iot, Linksys mesh for regular WiFi, procurve 2820 for distrib...
thanks, that brings back some memories of deploying a HP Procurve 5412zl with a controller card and those MSM APs
barren hound
great space heaters
dusky plank
i have 4 cores in my raspberry pi
subtle pasture
Found the datasheet: https://www.iptrading.com.au/productAttachment/IoTExpansionRadio.pdf
barren hound
that's nifty
i saw Eero is doing something similar for home users
does it backhaul zigbee over the wire or just act as a node?
subtle pasture
I believe the AP will also automatically make sure WiFi and Zigbee don't interfere, once the AP is joined to the zigbee mesh.
subtle pasture
Kinda makes sense, since Wifi / BT / Zigbee all share 2.4 GHz spectrum
@clear ferry Sure, they're out of stock pretty much everywhere
subtle pasture
Would be interesting to see what HomeAssistant can do with an IoT enabled AP
The dongle also adds Bluetooth LE 5.0, so bluetooth beacons / triangulation are a thing
knotty mortar
Did anyone else just get a notification email about a beta for 1.0.0 from Frenck? It popped up in my emails notification on my phone but it was gone when I went to open my email app. Or am I going crazy?
subtle pasture
Heh, OS update included the Supervisor update
Neat
Killed two birds with one stone, there
clever mortar
Making doubly sure your system no longer works π€
subtle pasture
I figured updating the OS first made sense, because "what if there are dependencies on the newer OS version?"
But, uh, yeah... it just did both at once
clever mortar
Given the Supervisor is a Docker container... shouldn't matter
subtle pasture
Hoooo boy, yes it does
Upgrade a container too far without upgrading the docker host, and the containers will stop working. I ran into that earlier this year when I rebuilt my primary Docker host
subtle pasture
The containers started requiring features of Docker that were not available on the latest release of Docker for CentOS7, so when Watchtower updated all of my containers... poof, dead.
clever mortar
See, that's your problem... watchtower
subtle pasture
It was either "wait for Docker to be updated in the CentOS7 repos" or "Move to CentOS8"
So I rebuilt the entire VM on CentOS8
Watchtower just updates docker containers...
clever mortar
You mean auto breaks π
subtle pasture
If I'd updated the containers myself, it would have broken the same way
clever mortar
It has it's place for sure, but most HA users have shot themselves in the foot by using it π
subtle pasture
But, anyway, yeah... host updates before docker container updates, every time, for sure...
Or configure WatchTower to install updates on a 1+ month delay, I suppose π€
Gotta love when everyone starts using bleeding edge features before they've even been rolled out for popular distros
I had docker configured to automatically update on the host, but that doesn't help when there literally isn't an update out for your distro yet. lol
clear ferry
Bleeding edge π€’
subtle pasture
I'm a purist, long live RedHat
clear ferry
I'm suse certified, I might be biased
I'm moving all my 15 jails to containers right now in preparation of freenas scale π€£
But I like jails
subtle pasture
FreeNAS dropping jails?
brazen fable
Fuck all you Ubuntu is where it's at
And windows ME
Tbh I run most of my shit on Ubuntu and it's flawless
Β―\_(γ)_/Β―
frozen fulcrum
i've said it earlier today, but today is my first time using HA and it's so sick.
i'm honestly in awe i can send push notifications to my LGTV and can't wait to come up with neat uses for this.
deft pewter
My TV doesn't even have the interwebs π
frozen fulcrum
imagine push notifications on your tv when some new movies hit the dark side of the interwebs.
peak cloud
@subtle pasture What kind of detection algorithm did you have in mind earlier when you mentioned last_boot?
deft pewter
Nah, I'd just use it to bug the wife while she's watching TV downstairs π
peak cloud
@frozen fulcrum That's already possible.
frozen fulcrum
did someone already make that?
peak cloud
You can cast an image to your TV, and it's possible to generate an image with text on it.
Surely someone has. π€·
deft pewter
Someone needs to find a way to cast completely innocent and non-sexual images to every TV in an electronics store.
The tech wasn't good enough when I was young and mischievous, so I only had one of those universal remotes that would turn everything in range off. π¦
Speaking of new movies... Monster Hunter is out tomorrow, right?
Can't decide if I'm expecting it to be any good.
hearty depot
Actually, fuck Linux, long live BSD Unix
can I introduce you to the saviour systemd-nspawn?
peak cloud
I had a TV-B-Gone from ThinkGeek, but it barely worked half the time.
hearty depot
and nope, not dropping jails, just have out a new project called truenas scale, debian based sooo
coral heron
is this basically the general chat?
light trout
major chat
coral heron
nvm just saw the header regarding no support
hearty depot
ooooh..
velvet horizonBOT
So close!
subtle pasture
New robot slave vacuum is already busy cleaning the house π₯³
hushed basalt
Have you stopped it from phoning home
subtle pasture
Must resist the urge to nickname the device "Succ Machine"
@hushed basalt What needs to be done for that?
hushed basalt
Is it on wifi?
subtle pasture
It is, yeah
hushed basalt
You can pretty much guarantee it'll be sending metrics at least back to the mothership
subtle pasture
Already gave it a static DHCP lease and static ARP, so I can block any ports necessary to just it.
So what needs blocking? lol
hushed basalt
Does it work with local polling
subtle pasture
It's a Roborock S4 Max, so yeah, it should
Once I make time to get a rooted Android environment set up to get the API key
hushed basalt
If you can deny all internet access to it that's the best bet
Firewall rule that blocks any destination from that device that isn't your LAN net
subtle pasture
Yeah, that also blocks firmware updates, is the thing
hushed basalt
You could turn it off when you need to do that
If it has cameras in it it's also extra risky
subtle pasture
No cameras on this one, just Lidar
tidal bronze
You can pretty much guarantee it'll be sending metrics at least back to the moth...
π€ π€£
hushed basalt
But in theory people can even use the LIDAR as a microphone
subtle pasture
Yeah, heard about that
hushed basalt
But you'd have to be pretty important for that
Are you a diplomat, politician or celebrity?
How about an C level at a fortune 500 company
tidal bronze
Should have asked before speculating. π€£
hushed basalt
Imagine trying to deal with security for those people in this day and age
?
You'll have to speak slower I'm Australian
tidal bronze
Really, didn't know. Which company?
hushed basalt
The company that manufactures the device...?
tidal bronze
Like Knight Industries ?
tidal bronze
π€
hushed basalt
I don't get it
tidal bronze
I don't get it
Yep same
clear ferry
Ain't nobody worth listening in to here anyway @hushed basalt 
Just a bunch of cundiments
hushed basalt
tidal bronze
@hushed basalt I am messing with you man.
subtle pasture
I mean, ultimately, this vacuum has ties with Xiaomi, and nobody trusts them
tidal bronze
Lol
subtle pasture
If it doesn't need to talk to the internet, I'm all about blocking it. lol
green inlet
I just walk around talking mumbo jumbo. Like full on conversations with my vac.
subtle pasture
'twas cheap, and I have a SSID and VLAN specifically for IoT shit.
tidal bronze
Me too. @green inlet got 3 and talk to them on the daily.
Don't know how much of it is transmitted to mothership
green inlet
Anyone listening is like, this guy is a whack job
subtle pasture
Oh, and LibreRVAC is working on making open firmware, so that's interesting
tidal bronze
Ultimately it's a damn vacuum. Not something that controls the thrust vector half way to Mars. π
subtle pasture
True, though it does keep an up-to-date map of the house
light trout
It probably could
subtle pasture
That's about the most sensitive thing it intentionally records
tidal bronze
Open or xiaomi if someone could keep the maps losing orientation every few months is all I want. They could transmit shit all day to Pluto for all I care.
peak cloud
@frozen fulcrum
tidal bronze
Switched to 1080 ?
peak cloud
Yup, that's a 1080p remux!
frozen fulcrum
i was thinking something more along the lines of RSS feed updates.
like RSS announce channels on private trackers, i dunno.
i guess that would probably get really spammy and annoying.
is that image push something exclusive to the samsung api?
peak cloud
I wouldn't do it for TV shows, but only movies. And you could easily setup a way to toggle it on/off.
That push above was done with the Notifications for Android/Fire TV integration: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/nfandroidtv/
frozen fulcrum
ah.
deft pewter
That's awesome, dale. I might start using that. If we're using the TV, it's almost exclusively on the Fire stick.
tidal bronze
@subtle pasture the S4 was on sale ?
subtle pasture
Yeah, $110 off on Amazon
tidal bronze
350 shipped not bad.
subtle pasture
I figured that coupon checkbox would only be good for Black Friday, but it's still up π€·ββοΈ
It's doing a good job navigating our clutter, so far
It did try to eat a sock, though
lol
tidal bronze
They are great. Got 1 x s5 and 3 x s6. I still prefer the s5, the way it handles dark carpet. I only have issues with braided USB C cords. They love em
green inlet
When I got mine. I stayed up till like 1 am watching it in utter amazement
subtle pasture
I didn't see any difference between the S4 Max and the S5 Max, aside from the mopping attachment
green inlet
Isnβt the S6 out. I want the s6
tidal bronze
S6 is old
green inlet
It looks more powerful
tidal bronze
About a year old.
I want to change my s5 to a newer one. 2.5 years in service 3 to 4 runs a day. I think time to retire.
green inlet
3-4 runs a day π€
forest edge
here we go again
deft pewter
If you want to donate your old one...
forest edge
2 years old?! did the myans use it!?
hushed basalt
I still have a Neato
It'd dead though
And I don't want to sink more money into crappy nimh batteries
All the after market ones are crapper too
tidal bronze
@green inlet different rooms different times and some multiple. I am little crazy about keeping things extra tidy.
hushed basalt
I'll wait till we are in a single story house to get a new one
Automated zone cleaning would be amazing
Clean the kitchen every day, whole house every 3 days
forest edge
i swear after something has been in @tidal bronze possession form longer than two years it suddenly develops ancient egyptian markings all over it and he no longer can handle such filth around his home
hushed basalt
I just wish they had one with a self emptying bin
Month long maintenance cycles would be amazing. Not daily
tidal bronze
@forest edge sell before things break on eBay is policy. Nothing more than 2 years.
Most 1 year max.
forest edge
good thing your wife manage to get in that exception clause
subtle pasture
Heh, back to the dock it goes... only came out of the box with 60% charge, but still cleaned about 1/2 the house
Apparently it will pick up from where it left off after it charges back up
tidal bronze
Yes it does.
hushed basalt
I feel sorry for people on dumb roombas
forest edge
what the hell is your ebay quad so i can anonymously low bid on shit your trying to sell?
subtle pasture
That's like the "Low fuel" light on my car coming on with 3 gallons left in the tank
hushed basalt
If your batteries stay cool and within 20 to 80% they'll last orders of magnitude longer
tidal bronze
@forest edge shhhh. Don't want you knowing types of kale and kelp I buy.
forest edge
you buy that shit from ebay? eww
subtle pasture
@hushed basalt Then hide that extra capacity from the user like a smart manufacturer
tidal bronze
@forest edge was waiting for that. Nopes. Just messing with ya.
hushed basalt
I mean it doesn't really matter
They're unattended devices really
Set and forget. Just have to clean the damn bin and rollers
subtle pasture
Unattended until they get stuck and start screaming for help >_>
forest edge
"Dear seller: I see a finger print on your product you are trying to sell. I will give you $200 less than what your asking.. I am aware you are only asking $200 but it is what it is. Please pay for first class shipping immeditaly. thank you"
tidal bronze
The only thing missing on roborock is estimating battery requirement per room or combination of rooms. Wish it didn't have to top up to 100% before resuming rest of the rooms. It already knows the area and even battery consumption per room by averaging multiple runs. Perhaps one day soon.
hushed basalt
Has anyone ever used the mopping function on any of these devices
tidal bronze
Yep I use it.
hushed basalt
In particular the more sophisticated ones that aren't just a damp rag
tidal bronze
Good not great
forest edge
do any of you know how to vacuum and mop by hand? just curious
tidal bronze
Sorry no @forest edge
hushed basalt
Do you know how to wash clothes by the river with rocks
forest edge
i believe it from you lol
tidal bronze
Do you have video guides ?
hushed basalt
Are the smart mops any good
subtle pasture
@tidal bronze If the argument here is that they're trying to extend battery life, then they'll never implement that, because it would increase the total number of charge cycles
hushed basalt
Eventually we'd want a house with all hard floors
forest edge
Eventually we'd want a house with all hard floors
ew
subtle pasture
Cycling between charging and discharging is significantly more harmful to the battery's longevity than running it consistently
hushed basalt
Carpet is ew
forest edge
the right kind of carpet is heaven
tidal bronze
@subtle pasture replacement oem batteries are cheap. Although I am running stock ones
forest edge
who the hell does that?
subtle pasture
Then let me use the last 19%!
forest edge
noone
subtle pasture
lol
hushed basalt
Well the post industrial world is
tidal bronze
@hushed basalt Brava Jet is much better at mopping.
forest edge
@hushed basalt i hear going outside is nice once awhile
forest edge
don't bring atx into this
hushed basalt
6% of global deaths are attributed to outdoor air pollution. In some countries itβs responsible for as many as 1-in-10 deaths.
tidal bronze
Finally roborock implemented no mop zone. But still not the best at mopping.
forest edge
you people are going to end up turning the world into that movie Surrogates
tidal bronze
@forest edge it will be ready when you finally move down to LA. Can't wait.
forest edge
what? a surrogate?
better be 600lbs and bald with a tatoo of martha stewart on the left arm
i need to maintain any excuse possible to complain walking 5 feet lol
tidal bronze
Why bald ?
deft pewter
Easier to oil them up
hushed basalt
forest edge
bald cause at 600lbs hard to comb correctly
tidal bronze
Lol
forest edge
I mean i imagine if it's out there your ass would want to go to some 5 star restaurant and even tho my clothes wouldn't fit at least my hair need to not look like i just came out of a wind tunnel and thus being bald solves that issue
tidal bronze
I like how you envision your future. @forest edge
forest edge
if your gonna go surrogate you go all out
tidal bronze
You should always start your spin CCW
forest edge
maybe we could visit @subtle pasture and teach her how to properly detect if a garage door is open or not lol
subtle pasture
Mine garage door sensor works fine, though?
subtle pasture
It actually tells me exactly how open it is, which is nice
forest edge
and the neighbors wonder why you have pet dolphins.. win/win
subtle pasture
It's ultrasonic, you can't hear it
forest edge
it's a joke.. sheesh
tidal bronze
@forest edge see you can't hear it. I told you π
If you use ultra sonic in series with a flux capacitor then you can hear it.
night zodiac
I love Frenck for the VS Code so much. Don't tell him I said so.
barren hound
pretty sure he's in here, so it's too late for that
night zodiac
I know.
cedar herald
I just posted a new post on smart home product and service trends... it's not good, would love your thoughts and see if I missed anything / other feedback https://blakeniemyjski.com/blog/disturbing-trends-in-smart-home-products-and-services/
Big companies just π© on us left and right
stable flint
true π
forest edge
not the companies fault people are dumb enough to keep investing in their products after being screwed over once. shit on me once, shame on you. shit on me twice, shame on me.
night zodiac
keep shitting, the aristocrats
cedar herald
yeah
Exactly
I'd really hate to be on a long vacation and missed that announcement.. They just deleted peoples routines
LOL
There is no way I'd ever trust something running cloud that I do not have a monthly subscription for. Even then it better be able to run locally
barren hound
I just posted a new post on smart home product and service trends... it's not go...
I'll say that lumping open source projects with commercial changes rubs me the wrong way.
cedar herald
I'll say that lumping open source projects with commercial changes rubs me the w...
fair enough, was just trying to say you are not safe where ever you go and share my experiences of pain. It's a trend and I mention that's to be expected with software especially pre 1.0
barren hound
Logitech bricking remotes, or Nest killing their API is usually on a very expensive product that you bought expecting to work for a while.
cedar herald
I tried to list all the hub software I could think of to try and be fair
barren hound
a beta project that only really has issues if you upgrade is widely different
you're not required to upgrade HA or any of the other OSS packages
tropic hedge
I have a lot of stuff running that's just different random dudes on github. That always makes me a bit uneasy
stable flint
lol that is my mom's reaction to who works on ha
barren hound
I have a lot of stuff running that's just different random dudes on github. Tha...
then go with a commercial project that is much less transparent.
cedar herald
Yeah but when you have to upgrade because some service shut down or locked you out, and then that broke you is what I should have mentioned
I could clarify that
barren hound
if you were running a local product (ESPhome, zwave, zigbee, etc), you could stay on the same firmware and HA version for decades.
cedar herald
that's not entirely true
tropic hedge
it's a pick-your-poison thing, I pick random dude on github over random company that might not exist in a year
cedar herald
some products have dual functionality and talk to the cloud and will update the zwave firmware too
the august locks did that to me
tropic hedge
but there are some things, like Frigate, that you just can't get in a commercial product
cedar herald
were offline for 3 months and I have 2 of my 5 locks off line (wifi) right now
barren hound
uh, august is wifi
stable flint
it's a pick-your-poison thing, I pick random dude on github over random company ...
or sell your data to make a few more thousand
barren hound
i said local products, you listed a cloud product
tropic hedge
I don't do cloud stuff when I can at all avoid it
stable flint
at least git allows you to see the code
cedar herald
august gen 3 is wifi + zwave
barren hound
that's an edge case and a cloud product, that's a false equivalence
cedar herald
just pointing out a product is only local if it has no access to an app on the phone or network outside of a protocol like zwave.. Even then it's not safe. They are starting to rollout zwave ota updates in some hubs and I know smartthings has had that for a long while and it has caused issues with devices bricking / removing functionality.
barren hound
excellent example. OTA is a hub specific thing. OZW doesn't support it right now. If you were to get a full setup (pi, zstick, some normal devices), configure it, and put it in a time capsule. it would work 5 years from now.
cedar herald
I'd bet by the end of next year open zwave might have ota
barren hound
you only need to update HA when you want new functionality or one of those cloud providers you cite breaks functionality
and OZW wouldn't force you to use OTA, it would expose the API and let you chose to use it or not.
that's kind of the point of OZW
another thing most of those other products/services listed don't have is a way to roll back. once a vendor pushes something new, that's what you get from now on, in 99% of cases.
i could roll all the way back to my .37 config if i wanted to scrounge ebay for the old devices i used to run (gen 1 zwave, x10, etc).
now, do you want to talk about legitimate gripes about HA? go for it. It has plenty of broken edges. Put in the bug reports, help polish that roughness.
night zodiac
I want to talk about birds.
barren hound
I want to talk about birds.
night zodiac
boobies
static schooner
cedar herald
now, do you want to talk about legitimate gripes about HA? go for it. It has p...
I've tweaked it, changes being deployed
The deprecating of a major install method deserves to be called out but so does breaking changes with the note of you update at your own pace and it's not 1.0 yet and should be expected to an extent
I appreciate the discussion
barren hound
I appreciate the discussion
no problem.
blazing parrot
Logitech bricking remotes, or Nest killing their API is usually on a very expens...
I bought a house this year with Nest thermostats installed. When my automations come around to climate, I'm going to be looking around at current Z-wave & Zigbee options in the US market. Ecobee is still accessible (I think?) but for how long? I have to imagine they will try to start charging for API access and end up like so many others who can't make enough just from selling widgets... they have to start holding our widgets hostage to stay afloat.
night zodiac
it's $5 to use the official API or you can use badnest which has worked well for me
I use both
I use badnest for temperature sensors and normal nest integration for everything else
barren hound
I bought a house this year with Nest thermostats installed. When my automations ...
old school programmable thermostats that have zwave are inexpensive, local alternatives
i went with ecobee, but i also know that they might break the integration, and i'll put them on ebay at that point.
night zodiac
I would suggest ecobee, myself. My family does HVAC and they love 'em.
I also think their dashboards are sexy in comparison to Nests
barren hound
i like their thermostats look (square vs round)
blazing parrot
yeah I did have ecobee in my previous house and it did play well with HA. But at that point I was still kind of oblivious to the dangers of depending on cloud-based services.
barren hound
both are such a rip off imo
i only spent $75/ea on my ecobees. i figure they can spy on my heating habits and try to sell me filters, and i'll take advantage of their people handling the "follow me" function of their sensors. since that will help ensure a happy spouse.
climate/comfort is a big deal in that arena
blazing parrot
LMAO when they came out with a smart switch that detected room occupancy & temperature, but made it completely incompatible with their thermostats.
barren hound
i cannot believe how fucking stupid that is.
that's like google killing off... well most of their cool ideas.
iGoogle, Inbox, Chromecast Audio (although, this was more due to patent lawsuits), Goggles, Code, etc
zinc verge
Where is the best place to post questions about zha quriks?
green inlet
#zigbee-archived channel π€
shy comet
@tidal bronze you see the new emergency orders?
All travel, including, without limitation, travel on foot, bicycle, scooter, motorcycle, automobile, or public transit is prohibited, subject to the exceptions in Paragraph V
you cant even walk outside your house now in LA lol
tidal bronze
Knew it was coming when Costco limited me to 1 stack of paper towels.
shy comet
lol they been doing that since march π
tidal bronze
Hmmm month ago I got 2
But that time couldn't by chicken and beef in multiples, lmao.
forest edge
funny thing is it's not due to the pandemic, they just don't want cali's mindlessly walking around anymore lol
tidal bronze
Dying for some flan π
hushed basalt
tidal bronze
@shy comet last night got pulled over by CHP while coming home in an uber. I was woken up by flash light in my face. The uber driver has fallen asleep on the 101 and was driving at 45 going all over the place. π
shy comet
my son will be upset that we cant go for our walks like normal
holy shit dude glad your ok!!
was he drunk or just tired
peak cloud
<@341689842465505280> last night got pulled over by CHP while coming home in an ...
Is this a real story???
tidal bronze
No he was not the cop said most drunk like not drunk driver he encountered.
The dude does not drink
Didn't know whether to laugh or cry.
shy comet
lol
tidal bronze
3AM from LAX, felt bad for the driver
shy comet
didnt we just pass a bill to let them keep their hours and get benefits etc...? π
tidal bronze
It was dead dude. Lucky someone showed up. Never seen LAX like that. I was so tired fell asleep in like 10 seconds.
peak cloud
Glad you're safe man. That's scary.
shy comet
yea lax being dead is crazy
im still shocked at the airlines keeping all their flights the way they do
tidal bronze
Thank you. Yes didn't realize at the moment. @peak cloud
@shy comet canceled my flight last night 6 hours wasted got on a plane today in the AM
shy comet
damn
tidal bronze
Had only 30 ~ passengers
shy comet
i wish all flights were like that all the time lol
tidal bronze
They said mechanical but thats BS. 4 flights in 10 days same freaking story.
shy comet
i hate how they jam everyone in the way they do
the chances of their employees testing positive for covid is higher than that i think
tidal bronze
I don't know the stats on that.
shy comet
i find those stats purely depend on people
my friend is a veterinarian....theyve hd to shut down the office 4 times since march
first manager had positive test but didnt tell anyone because they were asympotmatic
customers who didnt care went in
tidal bronze
Good thing is frequent flyers are very responsible. Flight last Wednesday was bonkers. I skipped 2 flights. Some people are crazy.
forest edge
@tidal bronze can't you fit a private jet on your property?
shy comet
these times bring out the best in people
tidal bronze
@forest edge lmao dude.
forest edge
what? save on uber costs...
tidal bronze
Wednesday a guy got pulled out for not covering the nose. Delayed the flight 2 hours for the drama.
shy comet
people cant follow simple instructions
tidal bronze
Yep.
obsidian ibex
does HA come with a disclaimer/warning? in less than 1 week, I've went from ordering a Conbee out of curiosity/boredom, to ordering a Pi4b, ZZH, 2x switches, 3x esp32, 4x motion sensors, 4x Spirit TRV's...
shy comet
everyone needs Cartmans social distancing stick
tidal bronze
Wife and the son left him behind. Epic
shy comet
@obsidian ibex thats all you got? psh
forest edge
to be fair i only put the mask around my crotch
obsidian ibex
IT'S BEEN 2 DAYS SINCE I GOT THE CONBEE
im gonna have no money left by christmas at this rate
no presents for anyone
tidal bronze
@forest edge so everything fits under that tiny mask. ? π€
shy comet
@obsidian ibex thats just 2 days...wait till you hit the 3 year mark π
forest edge
mask is made of spandex
shy comet
mask or chin diaper?
tidal bronze
π€£
obsidian ibex
i'm hooked, its 6am and I've spent the past 4hrs on HA
tidal bronze
Yep
shy comet
yea the honeymoon phase is real expensive here