#the-water-cooler

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last cedar
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You all remember I am still on like 0 96 5? right? ๐Ÿ˜›

hearty depot
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Dont we have user statistics around? (docker pulls)

clear ferry
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Awwww yeah, show me those pulls

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You naughty docker

hearty depot
light trout
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docker pull stats are not a stable metric, too much tools/bots influence the values

clear ferry
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Ah, just closed 408 tabs

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nice

clever mortar
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With how much RAM your system has, did it even matter?

clear ferry
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No

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It just felt good

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what a load of bullcrap

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I have to install chrome to use gotomeeting

obsidian ibex
last cedar
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What

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Is

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That

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Sma says radio

clear ferry
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ZZH

last cedar
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Yes

clear ferry
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CC2562 goodness

last cedar
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But what is a zzh

clear ferry
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Zigbee heaven

last cedar
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Oh

clear ferry
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None of that conbee nonsense

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proper texas instruments

last cedar
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A zigbee dongeongle?

clear ferry
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๐Ÿ’ƒ

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DONGLEONGLE

last cedar
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Isn't zigbee like a mesh, does it really need an aerial?

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Or is this a perfect product for a server that has an aerial outside the rack?

clear ferry
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it is a mesh, and the coordinator enjoys a proper antenna to talk to as many children as possible

last cedar
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Aha

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Wonderful

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Also, this might be a #zigbee-archived question, how many devices can you reliably connect to a single dongleongle?

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Trรฅdfri is 50, but I think that is a software limit

clear ferry
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The limit for my cc1352 is 300ish

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I think the zzh is in that area too

last cedar
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I want to do most stuff hard wired, but a mail box motion sensor etc is unreasonable to pull a cable

clear ferry
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I'm gonna do LoRA for my mailbox

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when I have time

last cedar
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LoRA?

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Lemons on top of Rediculous Apples?

clear ferry
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10-100km range wifi

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basically

last cedar
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OH

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Nifty

hushed basalt
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Extremely low bandwidth

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But long range and low power consumption

last cedar
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Is that so thr racoon that lives in your mailbox can check its emails?

clear ferry
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or you can track a racoon across the country

last cedar
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That sounds amazing actually

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Didn't know anything like that existed. I am glad I looked like a moron and asked now ๐Ÿ˜‚

clear ferry
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I know I am

last cedar
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You defo are

forest edge
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weirdos still praising plex in here?

last cedar
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I use plex, don't praise it much though

rare condor
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Jellyfin

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ftw

boreal pewter
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I use Plex, and there simply is no overall alternative

rare condor
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Jellyfin?

boreal pewter
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Nope

clear ferry
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Jellyfin has good ideas, but it is a alpha software at best

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Plex thank you

last cedar
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I used kodi for ages

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But the library crapped out once every 6 months for about 2 years. I got angry and went plex. And haven't looked back

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Picked up a shield tv (non pro) for the living room over the weekend

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Don't have 4K atm, and sound skips on DD (but not DTS HD etc????)

obsidian ibex
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@clear ferry gotta start somewhere, this is my first venture into HA, conbee with ZHA or Z2M planned!

tidal bronze
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@forest edge giving up VHS?

forest edge
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@tidal bronze i will when you give up on vinyl

clear ferry
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Vinyl is great

brazen fable
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Plex is the best. Period.

clear ferry
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It has a dynamic that other formats does not have

brazen fable
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Vinyl sucks balls

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Especially from a technical standpoint

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Sounds like dogshit

brazen fable
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And it degrades super fast over time with use

deft pewter
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Imagine pretending to be an audiophile and also claiming vinyl sucks ๐Ÿค”

tidal bronze
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Lmao

brazen fable
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Because when it comes to sound quality, vinyl does suck

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It just doesn't match up to 21st century technology

deft pewter
tidal bronze
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@forest edge that's apples to kumquat comparison

deft pewter
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Good quality analog is always going to win. Digital loses detail.

brazen fable
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No

obsidian ibex
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Look at everyone with their sassy wee memes lmao bunch of kids

deft pewter
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Yeah... you're not gonna last long if you come on here insulting people.

velvet horizonBOT
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@obsidian ibex Rule #3: Do not insult, belittle, or abuse your fellow community members. Any reports of abuse will not be taken lightly and will lead to a ban.

Please take the time now to review all of the rules and references in #rules.

brazen fable
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The vast majority of music is recorded and processed digitally.

obsidian ibex
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Honestly, Iโ€™m not sure Iโ€™d want to stay, been here less than 24hrs and so far Iโ€™ve encountered uneducated and now kids. I thought this place would be full of chill tech heads

tidal bronze
brazen fable
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It's not really a problem. It's superior

deft pewter
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This place is plenty chill. But yeah... Bye, Felicia.

brazen fable
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Sure alot of people are stuck in the past

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But I wouldn't expect that from here tbh

obsidian ibex
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Felicia? Lol. Is that another sassy move.

brazen fable
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It's also slang that's like 10 years out of date

obsidian ibex
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Honestly are you 12? @deft pewter

brazen fable
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I was thinking the other direction

clear ferry
green inlet
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๐Ÿฟ

tidal bronze
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Current music is mastered to sound good on $10 headphones not for quality.

brazen fable
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Doesn't really apply to flac recordings

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But for the compressed stuff I'll agree

clear ferry
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If you rip that music

green inlet
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Quad vs Scolias and Mono vs Felicia

clear ferry
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Yes it does

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It's mastered for shit

tidal bronze
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Flac means nothing

brazen fable
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Lol wot

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Flac means everything

clear ferry
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You rip shit it is still shit

brazen fable
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Or your lossless codec of choice*

clear ferry
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It doesn't get better

brazen fable
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Duh?

tidal bronze
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DSD would at least stand a chance.

obsidian ibex
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Everyone should go do the RED interview then we can all be friends ๐Ÿ˜‚

tidal bronze
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@green inlet this all started with @forest edge being hesitant to switch from vhs to plex

brazen fable
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That's not the RED interview

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They stole that word for word

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Lolol

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@obsidian ibex

obsidian ibex
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Oh ye? Was there something before RED? It was the main yoke when I looked into this stuff again

green inlet
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He graduated to VHS?

clear ferry
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It's a shame sacd never took off

tidal bronze
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Yep

brazen fable
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@obsidian ibex what.cd was around for like 10 years

rare condor
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Looks at his HD-DVD collection in the box to the left

brazen fable
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That page is a direct copy of their shit lol

dull chasm
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@brazen fable you obivoulsy have not heard a decent to high end sound system with vinyl ...

brazen fable
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Uh huh

tidal bronze
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@green inlet he finally got a tape rewinder last month. ๐Ÿ˜†

obsidian ibex
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@brazen fable nice. I completely skipped the torrent scene for about 10 years! I ditched it for usenet, kodi etc, couldnโ€™t believe it when I found out torrents not only had survived but were thriving haha

deft pewter
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If you think I'm sassy, wait until atx gets started ๐Ÿ˜‰

clear ferry
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Someone thinks ripping Taylor swift in flac makes the audio mastering better so ๐Ÿคท

brazen fable
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The only reason I used what. CD is because they were the only source of high quality controlled flac on the net

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Period

forest edge
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setting up a new pc, not keeping up with all the filthy trash talk around these parts

dull chasm
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I cant believe this @tidal bronze never have i heard such bs ..... Hell even reel to reel to can beat some modern stuff

obsidian ibex
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Only a master if ripped from 64k mp3 to flac

brazen fable
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But lots of producers are letting you buy flac now

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Which I love

clear ferry
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Cd is a shit format tbh

brazen fable
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I refuse to buy mp3s

clear ferry
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It restricted mastering for years

brazen fable
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But I'll buy flac all day

green inlet
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I actually can appreciate some of Sonomaโ€™s ways.

tidal bronze
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Lol

dull chasm
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this is epic

clear ferry
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๐Ÿฅณ

tidal bronze
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@green inlet you mean being a Firestarter?

green inlet
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Paying multiple 0s for a low percentage upgrade ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ

dull chasm
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he is talking shit to two of us at least that have over 15k in audio ....and we dont dont know shit @tidal bronze

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you are prolly 3x 5x that LOL

green inlet
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Firestarter == shit stirrer ?

tidal bronze
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But he can't beat the dude who cooked a steak in Delta toilet.

clear ferry
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๐Ÿค”

dull chasm
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๐Ÿคฃ

tidal bronze
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@clear ferry that's what hot today. ๐Ÿ˜…

forest edge
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wtf you children talking about. i am a saint

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and plex is dogshit..

brazen fable
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No. Kodi is dogshit

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And it's for filthy poors

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And it molests children

green inlet
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Here goes another large portion of my life I wonโ€™t get back

brazen fable
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Lulul

deft pewter
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Give it another few moments and we'll be called a bunch of children again.

tidal bronze
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@green inlet you done building ?

green inlet
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By the way, Fahrenheit is the proper way to measure temp

last cedar
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Kodi was great when I used it. Apart from the library

brazen fable
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Yes.

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Freedom units best units.

green inlet
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Quad, not my house. It is volunteer work, so every Saturday. Actually tweaked my lower back yesterday doing Christmas decorations so still in bed

brazen fable
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Just tweak it in the other direction and it'll balance out

green inlet
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Man donโ€™t I wish. Lower back pain is the worst

tidal bronze
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@green inlet sorry to hear that. I was actually asking about volunteer work ๐Ÿ˜†

brazen fable
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Agree

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But some stretches probably would help you

forest edge
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@green inlet all that on your knees work finally catching up to you huh

green inlet
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Been on a break the last couple weeks with thanksgiving. Also, we donโ€™t shingle or sheet the roof on 2 story builds so that has been happening

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My weekends have been non stop lately

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Honey-dew shit

tidal bronze
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Weekends ?

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What are those ?

last cedar
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This is why you shouldn't do christmas decorating

green inlet
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Ha ha. Michelle, every year I tell myself, โ€œthis is the last yearโ€

brazen fable
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I'm just going to install permanent LEDs along my house

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Perfect for Christmas or the occasional rave

green inlet
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And then the weekend after thanksgiving we puke Christmas every where

forest edge
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just do what @clear ferry does, buy some super cheap chinese leds strings and chuck them over the center of the roof and plug them in and call it a day

brazen fable
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Sounds like a great way to set the neighborhood on fire

tidal bronze
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@forest edge but they should be interconnected with fiber right ?

forest edge
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they build using asbestos so fire is no concern for norwegians

green inlet
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Big win this year though. Finally got the last little tree automated so EVERYTHING turns off and on by itself

tidal bronze
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Xlights?

green inlet
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And lead paint @forest edge

forest edge
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clap dog hit tree button!

green inlet
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Yupper

tidal bronze
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Lmao.

green inlet
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Wtf does that mean?

forest edge
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quad knows, his fetches beer likely

green inlet
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I have kids for that.

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๐Ÿคฃ

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My daughter actually claims she is the best outta the three

tidal bronze
brazen fable
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Uh

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Why

tidal bronze
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Don't get clouds that often.

forest edge
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it's either all sun or smoke nothing else

clear ferry
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-7c bitches

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.c2f -7

velvet horizonBOT
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:thermometer:
Celsius To Fahrenheit

-7 degrees celsius = 19.4 degrees fahrenheit!

bitter zinc
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When is the conference?

clear ferry
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Probably when the website states it

bitter zinc
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Oh didnโ€™t see that Iโ€™m on mobile

rare condor
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I forget some people don't use Celsius

clear ferry
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But the interface is the same on mobile and desktop ๐Ÿค”

deft pewter
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I can't decide which was more effort... setting up a new gas lift monitor arm or finding one that could hold the weight ๐Ÿ˜„

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Glad to be rid of the 25cm square base the monitor came with.

green inlet
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Gas lift monitor arm ๐Ÿคฃ. Fuck man, how heavy is your monitor ๐Ÿคฃ

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I need to google that

brazen fable
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I too like hydraulics to lift my computer equipment

green inlet
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I just use these ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿป

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Suns out, guns out

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@bitter zinc , have purchased your ticket?

bitter zinc
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No Iโ€™m planning to later today

brazen fable
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Ticket?

green inlet
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To the gun show

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๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿป

bitter zinc
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Lol I meant the conference

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But Iโ€™ll buy one for that as well

green inlet
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@clear ferry probably has extras

deft pewter
clear ferry
deft pewter
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๐Ÿคฃ

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I'm so glad for flat screen tech.

last dirge
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I used to work for a TV repair shop doing pickup and delivery

clear ferry
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My hardwood desk almost buckled

last dirge
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the Sony WEGA 36" HD CRT was RIDICULOUS

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200+ pounds

deft pewter
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My cheap IKEA desk definitely wouldn't have handled that crazy shit.

last dirge
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223 pounds

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101 kg

deft pewter
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I think my last CRT was a 14" TV back when I was a kid. ๐Ÿคฃ

last dirge
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and for whatever reason Sony designed the bottom like a cheese grater

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at one point I had more 17" CRTs than I knew what to do with

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my school was throwing a bunch away because they had vertical foldunder

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so I did some research and found out it was shitty caps

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so I replaced 5 caps for like $10 and had a free monitor

clear ferry
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I had 3x17 from 99 or something

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My TV at the time was a 28" wide sony

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Great tv

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Before 99 I had one 17 and one 15 I think it was

deft pewter
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It's so weird that 17" used to feel big

orchid rose
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because they were huge

deft pewter
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๐Ÿค

orchid rose
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Yuge

clear ferry
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My 12" was heavier than my 17"

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Because it contained the PSU and soundcard of the IBM

deft pewter
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What did your wife think of your 4"?

brazen fable
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Gj. Yall killed the chat

deft pewter
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It's what we do

bitter pawn
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it happens when talking about atx's 4"

deft pewter
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I'm sorry. I tried to inflate his 3.5" floppy.

mint torrent
deft pewter
rigid brook
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What's a good channel to ask questions about MQTT and auto discovery?

deft pewter
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Not this one

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please look at the other channels for that. If you can't work out which is relevant, start in #general-archived

clever mortar
shy comet
clever mortar
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It could be a #whale - oh, I still need to create that one

shy comet
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haha

clear ferry
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#smeg

brazen fable
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I'm gonna steal @clever mortar 's crayons

clever mortar
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Feel free, I've got some coloured lasers I can use instead

hushed basalt
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I've given up on Mandalorian

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It's just so boooooring

deft pewter
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I was expecting that to morph into this:

brazen fable
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Kodi sucks. That is all.

forest edge
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such hate for superior programming

tidal bronze
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Wowza HA UI is not easy. ๐Ÿ˜† 1st time playing with lovelace.

forest edge
subtle pasture
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Depends on how into it you get

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About half of my cards automatically fall back to the YAML editor

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A lot of customizations and options are only present if you edit the YAML. The new grid card automatically falls back if you change the columns or square options from default.

tidal bronze
forest edge
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@tidal bronze I see the issue now. in the notes it states, "So easy a non-Californian can do it" I must have missed that cliff note before..

tidal bronze
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lol. All I ever use on the UI is Dev Tools and CTRL F ๐Ÿ˜†

forest edge
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lol

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i love dark mode. it's the bee's knee's

tidal bronze
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Pulled out ALL Pentair Intelli shit and switched to Pi + HA, now need a UI for guest control. Don't want to be bothered with texts for crap ๐Ÿ˜‰

forest edge
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what inspired that action

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I don't trust tablets being used touch screens mounted on a wall for longevity at all

tidal bronze
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Heater control and valve actuators were still Pentair, now running HA generic thermostat much better temp control.

forest edge
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why not just make it all voice control. i mean you got 40 million nests around lol

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guest couldn't whisper in the bathroom and escape being heard..

subtle pasture
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Guests basically never use voice control

tidal bronze
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Yep

subtle pasture
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They lock up trying to figure out what to say

tidal bronze
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LMAO. Epic shit.

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I got tired of that stuff and now leave a labeled mini mote in every room.

subtle pasture
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At least Alexa has room-aware shortcuts, so you can just say wakeword: lights on and the lights in the room where the Echo that heard you turn on.

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As apposed to having to know/say the room name, or worse, having to know/say the individual light's name

tidal bronze
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Sadly aeotec stopped making minimotes ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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4 buttons 8 actions. Can't beat that.

lavish smelt
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Would anyone be up for reading a research paper I'm working on to tell how it looks? It's on using FPGAs in IoT applications.

forest edge
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@tidal bronze you are one invention away from just plugging something into your head when you walk through the front door

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@lavish smelt not ready for bed yet but maybe later

lavish smelt
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@forest edge Don't worry, it's putting me to sleep writing it.

forest edge
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lol

tidal bronze
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Plugging something aside, I just don't want to interreact with HA for any reason. Don't want to see it, hear it, press anything or say anything ๐Ÿ˜†

forest edge
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@tidal bronze looking for that hand gesture integration are you? *Recognized: Middle Finger - Unlocking bathroom door and initializing Fabreeze spritz now"

tidal bronze
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IR distance sensors solved that for me long time ago. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Building DIY was easy finding a sloan wall plate not so much lol

regal linden
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Would someone familiar With Docker help me troubleshoot a networking issue? I have docker running at ip: 10.0.7.12 which had a number of containers. The docker host is forwarding specific ports to specific containers (ie 10.0.7.12:10012 is forwarded to my HA container)

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The issue however is that when i enter 10.0.7.12:10012 on a browser in my local network i'm not being forwarded to the HA container but rather my NGINX container at 10.0.7.12:80/443

regal linden
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Nevermind, i think i've tracked down my issue to the container configuration.

tropic hedge
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so I avoided Amazon Echo as long as I could to avoid cloud reliance, but I finally caved and got one. Nothing in home automation has made happier than having Alexa whisper "hail satan" to me

night zodiac
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@subtle pasture that pen worked by the way

subtle pasture
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pen?

night zodiac
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contact cleaner pen

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rusty hue hub

subtle pasture
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Oh nice

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Glad that's all that was needed

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Sure beats replacing the hub and redoing all your Hue config

night zodiac
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same. I can touch the button on my Hue without it losing connection. much better.

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I let two thick coats sit for a bit and q tipped them off and then left a tiny coat on and plugger 'er in and it has been solid

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I pick it up and hot potato it to see if it loses lights but it is good

last cedar
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Are rusty hue hubs a thing? This is the 2nd I have read about in like a week

night zodiac
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It was probably me the first time

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I can't remember but this might have been a Hue hub that arrived covered in picked eggs. It seems like it

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I ordered a hue hub and picked eggs years ago and it arrived with the jar smashed and they sent me out a new shit

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I gave my friend a hub but I must have gave him the new one

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lmao

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oh well, contact cleaner pen to the rescue

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not sure if this is the pickled Hue though

last cedar
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๐Ÿ‘€ I have so many questions right now ๐Ÿ˜‚

tropic hedge
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a rusty hue hub sounds like something you'd learn about Urban Dictionary

night zodiac
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๐Ÿ˜‰

woven vine
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any1 here do DrZzs christmas LEDs ?

night zodiac
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DrZzs did

hushed basalt
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I get tired of voice controls

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as soon we we have a house I'm putting tablets up everywhere

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Plus google doesn't let you change the trigger phrase and I hate saying "Okay Google" for everything

misty fox
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lol

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the tablets look really nice when installed aswell

tropic hedge
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I just had my house remodeled and I have CAT6 drops in every wall I'd want a tablet, but having even PoE in the wall like that kinda freaks me out

hushed basalt
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Hardest thing would be finding a tablet that doesn't cost $400 but also doesn't look like hot garbage

tropic hedge
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the Fire tablets with the show dock are pretty nice

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that's a counter top tablet though

hushed basalt
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No fire tablets in Australia unfortunately

tropic hedge
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err stand

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you just can't get them at all?

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ouch

hushed basalt
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Well it'd be expensive

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You'd have to buy them, then reship them

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So probably $100 on top of their price

tropic hedge
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I never hear much good about being in Australia 8(

hushed basalt
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Coffee is good

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Not too much else tbh

tropic hedge
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need that energy to flee the fires and insects

hushed basalt
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I wouldn't really be concerned by insects

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I'm sure American forests have more killer fauna

woven vine
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any1 good here with electrical stuff?

clear ferry
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Nope

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Just smoke signals

tropic hedge
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if you need semaphore help I'm here for you

woven vine
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I want to do 1000 lights (12v string) and by z's tutorial i would need a 12v 20amp power supply. Is this safe to be using?

tropic hedge
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there's a decent chance your house breaker is only 15 amp, and even if it's 20, actually drawing 20amps continuously doesn't sound great

hushed basalt
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So a Amazon Kindle Fire HD 10" 32GB would cost about $210 AUD to get

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that's not, terrible.

tropic hedge
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that's not bad at all

woven vine
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but i may not need 1000 lights, could I use less than needed power with a 12v 20a power supply? (probably just running 5-10pm)

hushed basalt
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A galaxy Tab A 10 is $300

tropic hedge
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^- That's the dock I was talking about, it's very nice looking all set up

hushed basalt
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There's someone who made 3d printed wall mounts with inbuilt charging but I can't remember who they were

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But they looked very slick

tropic hedge
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and of course the fire tablets are compatible with those custom wall mount things that guy sells (mike something?)

clear ferry
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20 amps is on the low voltage side, if either of you don't understand that principle you should not be playing with electronics

hushed basalt
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Would probably run CAT6 with passive 24v and a 5v usb regulator in the wall

tropic hedge
hushed basalt
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That looks like the one thanks

tropic hedge
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those are super cheap for a boutique kind of item

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I'd love to hear how they work if you get one

hushed basalt
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It'll be 6 months at least

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but yeah long live tablets

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And real physical light switch buttons for light control

tropic hedge
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ooh I just got the Innovelli Red Series

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installed one, think I'm going to replace all my lutron switches and sell the lutrons for the same or more than the innovellis cost

hushed basalt
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I wish we had good light switch options

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The best option here is to use a shelly or something wired to a real light switch. Bell switch is ideal.

tropic hedge
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Z-Wave paddle switches where you can force the relay to be on 100% of the time and remap the off button to a z-wave scene

hushed basalt
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So it'd look like this with 1-4 switches

tropic hedge
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what is that? Are those british style switches?

hushed basalt
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Australian

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These would fail British accessibility standards hard

tropic hedge
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oh man, shed the yoke of your imperial oppressors and get some nice big 'murican paddles

hushed basalt
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Wait till you see our power points

tropic hedge
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do you not use the british ones there? those are actually decent I hear

hushed basalt
clear ferry
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Murica buttons ๐Ÿคข

hushed basalt
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This is what you'd find behind 99.9% of TVs

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Or something similar to it

tropic hedge
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you should save up your dollarydoos and get out of there

hushed basalt
#

Has to be a country that isn't 120v though ๐Ÿ˜‰

tropic hedge
#

ah yah I supposed you're already kinda invested

clear ferry
#

I've been saying you should move to a proper country with health care and brown cheese @hushed basalt

hushed basalt
#

Nah I just don't want to support that wasteful 120v ๐Ÿ˜„

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America must be under the control of copper and power companies

tropic hedge
#

we're secretly 240v

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the US that is

clear ferry
#

Big copper

tropic hedge
#

we just half of it or some witchcraft like that

hushed basalt
#

centre tap 240v, ew

clear ferry
#

๐Ÿคข

hushed basalt
#

If it's not 3 phase 240v it's not on.

clear ferry
#

We just do 400v three phase in

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Much better

hushed basalt
#

That's the same thing fool

clear ferry
#

Pfff

#

Is not

hushed basalt
#

Each phase is 230v I assume

#

No point calling it 400/415v if you're not actually using that on a single device

hushed basalt
#

Yes, 3 phase 230/240v.

clear ferry
#

We use the 400v in our garages for power tools

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And ev charging

hushed basalt
#

Anyways, my point is it's exactly the same thing

clear ferry
#

And in kitchen stovetops sometimes

hushed basalt
#

Same thing != 'much better'

clear ferry
#

๐Ÿคฃ

clear ferry
#

This message has been brought to you from the 120v is shite gang

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๐Ÿ‡

hushed basalt
#

I could half forgive them if it was 120v 3 phase

clear ferry
#

How much are you paying for kindergarten every week now @hushed basalt ?

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They just upped our prices by $4 per month

hushed basalt
#

We pay $25/day after subsidies

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but the centre gets like $130/day

clear ferry
#

$329 here now per month

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With all meals

hushed basalt
#

So they make about $30-$40k per child

clear ferry
hushed basalt
#

It's not a coincidence a lot of politicians own child-care centres

#

So it'd be probably $1000/month if we were in full time and not getting a family discount

#

But the more your family earns the less discount you get, so it can be a lot

#

My sister was paying $40k out of pocket a year at one point for her two kids

clear ferry
#

wow actually a good cyber monday deal

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$40 for twinkly, 50% off

clever mortar
#

๐ŸŽ‰

clear ferry
#

too bad I bought them last year at $45 or something

#

๐Ÿคฃ

clever mortar
#

only place here that has them at a decent price is sold out ๐Ÿ˜ข

clear ferry
#

ah, it's only the 150

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I have the 250

clever mortar
#

Still, nice deal overall

clear ferry
#

aye, can by three of those for the price of a 250

#

no new 4k monitors for sale

#

๐Ÿ˜ 

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BW\BF\BWE\CM has been an utter joke this year tbh

clever mortar
#

Yeah, there's not been any awesome deals here, though I did get a good bottle of Islay malt at discount ๐Ÿ˜„

clear ferry
#

But you pay like three fiddy for a bottle of that anyway

#

not like the norwegian licqour-vendor that charges ... ยฃ120 for some blended rubbish ๐Ÿคฃ

clever mortar
#

That's because they think you lot would be permanently bladdered if it was affordable, and so would impact your ability to work.

They really need to come over to Glasgow for a fact finding trip. Then they'd realise that with practice it's not a problem any more...

clear ferry
#

We have vantage point to view russia, so that should be obvious already

#

๐Ÿค”

clever mortar
#

True, and they have mastered the biology of keeping the blood level stable in an alcohol stream

clear ferry
#

Who needs jackets when you have natural antifreeze

#

oh wow, it suddenly started snowing and the sky turned pink

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no wait, this is nuclear winter

#

..

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shit

clear ferry
jovial echo
#

Itโ€™s done and I can go to bed!

tropic hedge
#

grats

jovial echo
#

Bit of a learning curve, first esphome device but itโ€™s calibrated and Alexa yells at m when the dryer is finished so... ๐Ÿป time

clear ferry
#

Oh that's a ๐Ÿคข job title if I ever saw one

#

Customer Success manager

forest edge
#

too old to be dealing with this switching to a new pc crap

hushed basalt
#

Has anyone got host override working in unbound dns on opnsense?

#

I swear I've got it all set right but it's just not working

clear ferry
#

aye, I have a few examples

light trout
#

yes, but no.
It works, but somewhow it's not used by the websocket in HA, so I can't login

clear ferry
#
server:
   private-domain: "plex.direct"
   local-zone: "mydomain.com" redirect
   local-data: "mydomain.com 86400 IN A 192.168.1.102"
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Is one I have noted

hushed basalt
#

I haven't used config as code on opnsense yet

#

Wanted to see if I could get it working at all first,

#

Mine just shows me the public DNS resolve for my domain,

clear ferry
#

Should work, a lot of people over at the homelab discord use it

#

I haven't had a use for it since I migrated to opnsense

#

I only have three vlans currently, one regular, one for the wifes cyberstuff and one for playing with IoT devices ๐Ÿค”

#

Oh no, I have four, the vsphere lab I haven't finished yet

forest edge
#

wifes cyberstuff? kinky

clear ferry
hushed basalt
#

Can't figure it out

clear ferry
#

you want plex.domain.local to resolve if you ping or look it up inside your domain ?

#

register dhcp leases should do that for you if you have done it properly already

hushed basalt
#

The domain just resolves to the public address on my WAN,

clear ferry
#

Oh, so it is not your internal domain

#

it is your externally facing domain

#

why do you need to use that inside your domain ?

#

plex will know if it is on the same network as the client via plex.direct which is the example I showed you to add if you have multiple subnets

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because then it can get confused

hushed basalt
#

plex.direct?

clear ferry
#

but if your client and server are on the same subnet it should just resolve properly afaik

hushed basalt
#

My plex is behind a reverse proxy

#

And it's getting the x-real-ip and x-forwarded-ip header values of the lan interface of my router from the loopback

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nat reflection*

clear ferry
#

but where is the client you are trying to connect ?

#

local subnet ?

hushed basalt
#

yes

#

well, plex is inside the docker NAT

clear ferry
#

then it won't go out anyway

hushed basalt
#

Client is on 192.168.2.0/24 and the plex interface is on a 172.18.0.0/16 network,

clear ferry
#

let me try adding an override here

hushed basalt
#

My overrides work if it's not a real domain

clear ferry
#

my override worked fine

#

for my official domain

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pointing it to my nginx proxy

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instead of doing nat loopback

hushed basalt
#

๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

clear ferry
#

since all my external subdomains are routed through nginx I should just be able to do wildcard tbh

hushed basalt
#

This is basically my problem

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Same with my reverse proxy,

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I couldn't get wildcard to work either

#
Hosts which are defined in unbound and in the public DNS (w/ A or CNAME in the public DNS) do NOT work.
The difference I see is in the number of ANSWER, which seems like unbound is passing the public answer to the client instead of an overwrite
; <<>> DiG 9.10.6 <<>> localnpublic.mydomain.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: xxxxx
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
clear ferry
#

works fine here

#

let me try wildcard for the lulz

hushed basalt
#

Yes but why

clear ferry
#

pebkac you see

hushed basalt
#

That's the $1.4m AUD question

clear ferry
#

domain override didn't work it seems

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with wildcard atleast

somber ferry
#

How the fuck do you guys manage to get out of the addiction of home automation. It started as a philips bulb one year back and now i spent like 2000Euros on my setup. When will this stop. Please tell me there is an end.

hushed basalt
#

When your house is repossessed.

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No home, no automation required.

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100% efficiency

somber ferry
#

I knew i was having a problem when i hacked our air freshner to make it smart. Yesterday was the last straw when i said to my wife, how cool would it be to make the candle smart and started shopping for parts for 2 hours to make the candle smart.

clear ferry
#

interesting, my second override didn't work

hushed basalt
#

Something funny is going on aye

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I'm not just an idiot

clear ferry
#

I have done this for 2 years, I have used nowhere near $500 even tbh, even with all my ali express orders

hushed basalt
#

He's lying

clear ferry
#

ikea bulbs keeps cost down too

hushed basalt
#

Hoarders are always in denial

somber ferry
#

I am telling the actual cost not the one that i say to my wife ๐Ÿ˜„

#

for my wife we got everything for offer at 600$

clear ferry
#

$5-7 per bulb compared to $25 for hue is noticable

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when you buy 50+ bulbs

hushed basalt
#

I only stock the bare essentials in my pantry

Buys house extension to store more shampoo

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$15-$30 for Ikea bulbs here

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$60-$90 for Hue I mean

somber ferry
#

My expensive ones are the thermostats, door lock and the smart blinds

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everything else i really got for a good deal or bought used ones or made it myself.

clear ferry
#

Door locks ๐Ÿคข

hushed basalt
#

I found $50 on the street yesterday maybe I could buy some more bulbs

clear ferry
#

and we don't use blinds in this country

hushed basalt
#

Wife would never know

clear ferry
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or thermostats really

somber ferry
#

What country are you from. I will find something expensive. Why should i be the only one

clear ferry
#

Norway

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@hushed basalt interesting, removing and adding the previous override that worked, and it doesn't work anymore

hushed basalt
#

Told you

somber ferry
#

You dont use thermostats? For sure you should be having the radiators no?

clear ferry
#

in the 80s and 90s we had electric radiators heating the house year round

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since the 90s most houses have heatpumps

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and electric ovens for extra heating as needed

#

we have +35 to -35 c temperature

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.c2f -35

velvet horizonBOT
#
:thermometer:
Celsius To Fahrenheit

-35 degrees celsius = -31 degrees fahrenheit!

clear ferry
#

.c2f 35

velvet horizonBOT
#
:thermometer:
Celsius To Fahrenheit

35 degrees celsius = 95 degrees fahrenheit!

somber ferry
hushed basalt
clear ferry
#

@somber ferry we have water in the big cities yes, but very rare in houses

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mostly apartment complexes

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@hushed basalt appears to be working fine here, it is just ubuntus dns shitshow that was tricking me, if I do the dns lookups from bsd they work immediatly and always

hushed basalt
#

mine still doesn't work in windows either

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or even the domain lookup in opnsense

clear ferry
#

ipconfig /flushdns ?

hushed basalt
#

yep

clear ferry
#

do you have pihole ?

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or similar

hushed basalt
#

Nope

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I've given up and changed to dnsmasq

clear ferry
#

after a few minutes ubuntu figures it out as well

#

so stuff appears to be working fine on my end

hushed basalt
#

I feel like I've gone back to a restaurant 10 times that keep spitting in my food

#

When I should just go to a different restaurant

#

and now it works fine

#

Hmm plex still sees it as remote,

#

It's seeing my client's ip now and not the router,

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in the x-real-ip header

clear ferry
#

Love that my rsync progress bar keeps increasing number of files that supposed to be synced

dusky plank
#

this was actually a win98 bug I believe... any file bigger than > 2.5g triggered this I believe

hearty depot
#

Just reminded me in a Internet Explorer "bug"
when you hit download, but not jet safe just insead waited the download time, you East saw incredible connection speeds after hitting safe. the file were already downloaded after all.

dusky plank
#

haha yeah like the downloads from megaupload getting loaded in your localstorage and then offloaded to it's final destination

odd kindle
#

There's some interesting comparissons between cheap bulbs and the more expensive. The cheaper tends to have a worse flimmer that could cause head ache and such. @clear ferry so at least be careful with what ali-express bulbs you buy

dusky plank
clever mortar
#

You don't have gravity plating in your office?

clear ferry
odd kindle
#

@clear ferry itโ€™s the kind of flickering you canโ€™t really notice just by locking at it. But if you donโ€™t have any problems with it Iโ€™m sure itโ€™s ok.

clear ferry
#

I have terrible eyesight, but I can notice flicker very well

#

Almost like my HDD ears

#

I can hear a failing HDD from across the DC

low harness
#

I notice flicker when boiling water. I have led bulbs in the fan hood and they cause really interesting interference patterns with the movement of the water right before it starts boiling on my induction plates.

#

So... not the flicker really... more the... moirรฉ... caused by it...

odd kindle
#

As far as I understand itโ€™s flickering you canโ€™t actually pick up on with you eyes, but the brain โ€œnoticesโ€ it

dusky plank
#

@low harness i dont have induction plates but my water boiler does the same

low harness
#

Yeah... probably rather a function of the vessel size and shape than the boilers, come to think of it.

dusky plank
#

shouldnโ€˜t induction plates be on their own three phase line? at least here in austria we do that with high power appliances

amber bramble
#

i remember being able to see the CRTs flickering at 60hz when I was in highschool and can still notice some cheap LED products flickering

last cedar
#

Cheap LCDs might use low frequency PWM backlights, btw

#

And you see those flickering

bleak wasp
subtle pasture
#

@rancid wharf That's the original Tacoma Narrows bridge

#

The GIF cuts off, but the bridge collapses shortly after that

subtle pasture
#

LEDs change state near-instantly, going from full brightness to completely off, so the flicker is visible at MUCH higher frequencies.

autumn owl
#

Hi, would it be possible to link my self made Smart Home control system with Home Assistant to control my lamps with Google Assistant?

subtle pasture
#

I still have issues shopping for LED-backlit LCD monitors because of this. Most of them, I can see the backlight flicker in high-contrast content.

#

Well, unless the backlight is set to 100% brightness, because that makes the PWM duty cycle 100% (always on)

dusky plank
#

@autumn owl yes, you would need to either write your own little api in your existing system and/or use #integrations-archived like REST or command_line switches, sensors etc..
if you need help with these please ask in the proper channel, the #the-water-cooler is for shitposting

autumn owl
#

Oh okay, thank you!

subtle pasture
#

cheap half-wave rectified LED Christmas lights are especially bad. It's legit difficult to drive in a neighborhood lit by them, because the stroboscopic effect causes them to break into thousands of dots any time I move my head/eyes.

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Some LED tail lights do it too. That shit should be illegal, it's a road hazard.

tropic hedge
#

as someone old enough to have had CRTs on the PCs on my job, 60hz was noticeable by most people. Nicer monitors could push 70hz-75hz which was far, far less noticeable

subtle pasture
#

Oh, I'm not saying 60Hz isn't noticeable

#

But an OLED display flickering at 60Hz would be a fuck-ton worse than a CRT flickering at 60Hz

tropic hedge
#

yah, for sure

subtle pasture
#

LED studio lights have to have PWM frequencies in the kHz range to not have visible flicker (and, more importantly, to not cause artifacts on camera)

#

Philips Hue lights? Forget about it; too slow, too much PWM flicker.

last cedar
#

I am glad I am not sensitive to it. Sounds like a nightmare

subtle pasture
#

I've legit had people not believe me until I took a high speed / slow motion video recording with my phone and played it back at 1/32 speed

#

"I told you your Christmas lights were flickering..."

#

I can see the flicker on Hue lights when they're set to lower brightness, as well. Thankfully we don't usually run them dim enough to see it...

last cedar
#

Yeah, I have seen LED lights (back of cars) on film flickering (I guess they use PWM to be brighter to act as aa brake light). Otherwise I would have no idea

subtle pasture
#

Yup, they use a cheap low-frequency PWM circuit to dim the tail lights while driving with the headlights on. The PWM duty cycle goes to 100% (full bright / always on) when the brake pedal is depressed.

#

I really wish they'd either use a 1 kHz+ PWM circuit, or go back to resistive dimming...

#

There was nothing wrong with resistive dimming, no flicker whatsoever...

last cedar
#

Cheaper to use pwm? At a guess

tropic hedge
#

I don't think you can resistive dim an led

deft pewter
#

๐Ÿค”

tropic hedge
#

oh, I'm wrong it looks like

deft pewter
#

School electronics class says you're wrong.

tropic hedge
#

I had thought that was why we had PWM in the first place

deft pewter
#

That's like one of the first things you learn... basic circuit with a power source, LED, resistor.

tropic hedge
#

well yah, but in that first sample project the resistor is so you don't blow the LED, not to dim it

#

though I guess it would get a bit brighter right before it blew

deft pewter
#

You can have a higher value resistor to result in a dimmer LED.

subtle pasture
#

The resistor is there for current-limiting, true... but if you hook up a variable resistor, you can ramp the brightness up and down.

tropic hedge
#

TIL

deft pewter
#

The LED's power is a function of, well... power.

#

Lower current at the same voltage = lower lower.

subtle pasture
#

The only real downside is the resistor converts the power into waste heat

#

So dimming a high-current LED matrix with a resistor could result in... a lot of heat...

#

That said, if it's an LED matrix, you could always just turn off segments of it to change between discreet brightness levels. No need for any form of PWM or resistive dimming at all

wild crypt
#

Is anyone buying a security camera system or has bought one recently? Looking for deals on 4-6 cam sys

#

outdoor home system

subtle pasture
#

That's pretty much what they did with incandescent bulbs on cars. Multiple bulbs (or bulbs with multiple filaments)

#

So even when using LEDs as a drop-in replacement for existing incandescent bulbs, there's no reason for PWM.

subtle pasture
#

@deft pewter Hey, if you know why a road-safety hazard became the norm for modern tail lights, let us know ๐Ÿ˜›

#

Also, being called a nerd for car-talk... that's a first...

deft pewter
#

I can't say I've noticed it over here. I think we mostly have separate bulbs for rear lights and brake lights.

#

I think I've noticed the weird LED lights over there... but tbh, I'm usually more focused on paying attention to your roads than to features of cars ๐Ÿ˜„

#

Driving in another country always takes a bit more attention than driving at home.

subtle pasture
#

I mean, same, but the flicker / strobe makes it difficult

deft pewter
#

Anyway... nerd isn't exclusive to computer/comic talk ๐Ÿ˜„

subtle pasture
#

That's literally the complaint here, that it's difficult to see where the fuck you're going with a red strobe light on the back of every other vehicle

deft pewter
#

A nerd is a person seen as overly intellectual, obsessive, introverted or lacking social skills.
That's most of us, right?

#

Yeah, I haven't noticed the flicker here.

#

You know what I love here? Assholes driving with their fog lights on... at all times.

#

Driving towards a stream of traffic? Fog lights.
Midday in the summer? Fog lights.

subtle pasture
#

Yeah, never understood that...

deft pewter
#

Hell, half the time, they don't even have their headlights on... it's like they think fog lights are a fucking accessory.

subtle pasture
#

Also never understood cars that come without fog lights

deft pewter
#

I wouldn't want one without front and rear but I think only rear fog lights are required by law here.

subtle pasture
#

They're somehow "optional" on my car. Glad mine has them...

last cedar
#

DRL, that does not light up rear lights, but illuminates dashboard annoys me

#

See at least 1 car every day that drives in the dark without rear lights

deft pewter
#

DRL?

static schooner
#

daytime running lights

last cedar
#

Daylight running lights

deft pewter
#

Ah

last cedar
#

Daytime? TIL

static schooner
#

I've been completely unsuccessful communicating that to the other driver

last cedar
#

Thanks

static schooner
#

you're probably right

last cedar
#

Unsure

deft pewter
#

My car's lights are mostly automatic. I don't even have to think about day vs night ๐Ÿ˜„

static schooner
last cedar
#

Anyway, but yeah, people drive on the motorway. In the dark. With no lights on the back :/

#

Makes me want to give them a high 5, in the face, with a chair

static schooner
#

it is dangerous

#

I hadn't put that together with DRL, but it makes sense

deft pewter
#

Depending on prevailing regulations and equipment, vehicles may implement the daytime-running light function by functionally turning on specific lamps, by operating low-beam headlamps or fog lamps at full or reduced intensity
Ugh. This might be why I see so many fog lights now...

#

Low-beams should be the only acceptable DRL's. Fog lights are way too bright.

last cedar
#

I usually use front fogs and side lights during thr day actually. It is "legal" and doesn't blind, but we have to have 2 lights on by law. Saves the reflectors in the headlights a lot (normal 55W bulbs, not projector lenses or xenon)

deft pewter
#

Doesn't blind? They hurt my eyes ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

last cedar
#

They are the same bulb, and a lot lower beam, at least on our car

static schooner
#

there's a road near me with giant signs threatening fines if you don't turn your headlights on

deft pewter
#

Low-beam headlights are fine though.

#

Full-beam anything is bad.

last cedar
#

Not the same bulb, sorry. Same power, 55W. H1 and headlights are H7

deft pewter
#

Low-beam lets you be seen. High-beam dazes other drivers.

last cedar
#

I believe my van has 21W for DRL and 5W for sidelights. For some silly reason. One of those dubbel bulbs

#

But yeah, no back lights and that it illuninates the dash is just silly

#

People think that their lights are on

deft pewter
#

People think?

last cedar
#

Lets face it, aa lot of people don't know how to fill the screenwash

#

So lights are a magical force

#

Everyone I have managed to tell about their lights say that they thought they were on because wverything was lit up

deft pewter
#

You give them too much credit. They don't know or care if their lights are on as long as they can see.

last cedar
#

That is almost certainly true ๐Ÿ˜‚

clear ferry
#

Driving with fog lights are illegal here outside of it being foggy outside or in combination with regular headlights during daytime

#

They are fucking annoying

#

And most people have no idea what park lights are

deft pewter
#

The UK:

Headlights and fog lights should also be used in daytime hours when visibility is seriously reduced โ€“ although you must switch them off when visibility improves to avoid dazzling other road users.

#

Dazzling other drivers is fucking dangerous. They don't care.

#

They can see where they're going. They don't care if others can't.

clear ferry
#

Something that grinds my gears is the EU regulations and ev that have no running lights during daytime

deft pewter
#

Everything grinds your gears ๐Ÿคฃ

clear ferry
#

In Norway that was mandatory up until 2016 or so, then some EU regulation came into effect

hollow glacier
last cedar
#

The EU has done some proper weird stuff tbh

#

Lots of regulations about cucumbers and such

amber bramble
#

hmm. I'm really interested in ubiquiti's door access system but I'm not a fan of them trying to cram everything into their "dream machine" appliance

#

i don't want one device that's a router, firewall, security nvr, and door access controller...

last cedar
#

Question about that

#

The "bell" is a touchscreen

#

Can you have tag and code for entry?

wanton gulch
last cedar
#

I am glad

#

You saved a chair

inner vault
#

finished reinsulating my attic on the weekend, I only regret not having more temperature sensors last year to be able to do a good comparison on heating times and energy usage

brazen fable
#

I wouldn't reccomend the UDM pro TBH

#

I have one and I'm looking to switch back out to a pfsense box

clear ferry
#

Pfsense is stale and boring

#

Long live opnsense

brazen fable
#

Imagine thinking superior security, stability, and feature set is stale and boring

clear ferry
#

After using pfsense for 15 years I have better judgement ;-)

brazen fable
#

Based on your past rants, I think not.

#

And also based on your past rants, you probably don't have very powerful hardware to run it on properly

forest edge
#

well i mean it's HPE...

#

hard to argue the puny hardware part of that statement..

clear ferry
#

Yeah, keep telling yourself that ๐Ÿฅณ

forest edge
#

lol

clear ferry
#

Damn kids

trim finch
#

kodi is better than plex ๐Ÿ˜

forest edge
#

don't sweat these kids atx.. they think plex is ๐Ÿคข good ๐Ÿคข

#

anyone find any unbeatable cyber monday deals

clear ferry
#

Not anything worth buying at all

#

Just bullshit

deft pewter
#

Amazon's 'Cyber Monday' is all clothing and home crap. No tech.

clear ferry
#

So perfect for you

deft pewter
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I think they missed the whole 'Cyber' part.

forest edge
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weird lol

clear ferry
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Hawaiian shirts and kitchen aids for @deft pewter

orchid rose
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Both BF and CM were crap this year

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11.11. too

trim finch
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yeah 11.11 was disappointing

deft pewter
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Got my KitchenAid years ago.

forest edge
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not really surpising considering the pandemic and all

deft pewter
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Sales are really disappointing now that I have everything I want.

forest edge
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lol

orchid rose
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I was even trying to find cheap RAM and a CPU for my brother, but no such luck. Doesn't look like you can even get the new AMD cpus this year ๐Ÿ™„

clear ferry
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AMD ๐Ÿคข

deft pewter
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Out of curiosity... what good alternatives are there to Plex? I'm using Plex now but only because I haven't come across anything I like better.

forest edge
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@orchid rose did you look at microcenter?

orchid rose
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too murican

forest edge
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they ship outside us

orchid rose
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Yeah but that brings 24% in added taxes

forest edge
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oh yea..

clear ferry
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@deft pewter jellyfin looks good, but is still an alpha product at best

trim finch
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๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ i wanted to like plex...but when i tried it subtitles didnt work baked into mkv's and you couldnt easily download sub's like you could with kodi.

hearing impaired person in family so its a must

clear ferry
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I can download subs anytime for any show

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With plex

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From any client

orchid rose
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Kodi is love

trim finch
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care to share? cuz i saw nothing like that

deft pewter
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Kodi ๐Ÿคข

forest edge
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plex is the equivalent of a childrens see n say

trim finch
forest edge
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the movie goes play

clear ferry
trim finch
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i like kodi too but its really ass on firestick

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may have to upgrade and try subs

forest edge
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weird. would think a firestick would be more powerful than an rpi2 and i had kodi on that for years

trim finch
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was wicked slow scrolling thru menus/movies for me on a fs4k

orchid rose
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explain yourself mono!

deft pewter
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Nevah

inner vault
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https://github.com/croneter/PlexKodiConnect looks pretty neat with the caveat of "I don't actually use plex, just kodi, but im interested in checking out plex once I get more dedicated local storage"

forest edge
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that's what @subtle pasture was talking about the other day.

inner vault
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I run kodi on a 4k firestick and it seems fine

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also on a shield and uhh, like circa 2008 imac

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might depend on interface and such, I tried one of the netflix alike skins with library integration and ended up going back to one of the defaults

dusky plank
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team kodi ๐Ÿ‘‹

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still have my original xbox with xbmc and full of emulators

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now that I see it.... i still need to get that IDE - CF Card adapter to get rid of that HDD

subtle pasture
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Heh, I gave up on the original xbox as a XBMC / Kodi client when h.264 became a thing

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It just doesn't have the horsepower to decode h.264, and Kodi doesn't have remote-transcode to prop up weak clients

deft pewter
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Team Kodi is ๐Ÿคข

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๐Ÿ˜„

subtle pasture
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Strictly speaking, the original Xbox can play back 1080p content at full framerate, IF it's encoded correctly (generally that means MPEG2, which is hardware accelerated on the old console).

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So a Plex client would still be workable on the OG Xbox, if such a thing were ever developed...

dusky plank
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yeah xvid was kind of the limit containerwise, 720p h264 was playable I think

subtle pasture
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Looks like Kodi + the official Plex plugin for Kodi might work for remote transcoding on the OG Xbox

dusky plank
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still an amazing machine to play mario kart with friends

green inlet
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Hey guys, long time listener, first time caller. I have been looking at both kodi and plex. What say you guys?

subtle pasture
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Best I ever got was 480p h.264 @ 30 FPS, anything more and the poor little Pentium 3 in there would drop frames like mad

dusky plank
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I have my library strict in h264 and I don't have a need for transcoding, so I'm fine with kodi

subtle pasture
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Heh, real-time transcoding a 24fps 1080p file to MPEG2 would result in an 80 mbps stream. That's... most of the Xbox's 100 mbps NIC's bandwidth

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Would probably need to be a lower bitrate, I don't think the hardware MPEG2 decoder can handle that

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@dusky plank I'm winding up with more and more h.265, so transcoding is happening more often these days

brazen fable
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Oh we're still on this

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Plex is technologically superior in every way

subtle pasture
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And then you've got the weird h.264 formats, like Hi10p, which need transcoding to play on most things

deft pewter
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Strangely enough, people don't need your permission to discuss it,

brazen fable
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With more features.

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Strangely enough, nobody suggested needing permission.

last plaza
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See what you started? @green inlet happy now? ๐Ÿคฃ

static schooner
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I find transcoding to be annoying if I want to skip around in a video, so I try to avoid it. Luckily, my Shield Pro handles the throughput just fine

green inlet
brazen fable
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My plex is run on an 8700k

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it's got plenty of transcoding power

static schooner
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I find it annoying that they keep changing the Plex app around (maybe just for Android TV). It's gotten a lot worse lately

last plaza
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Transcoding can be cpu intensive. I avoid as much as possible

brazen fable
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I keep 4k and 1080 versions of the same movie/show to avoid transcoding

clear ferry
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Why the fuckery are there so many 28" 4k monitors without vesa mounts

brazen fable
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but for some mobile devices/lesser hardware you still need minimal transcoding

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@clear ferry because you get what you pay for

subtle pasture
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@last plaza Same, but can't help it when there's an old Roku 3 still in the mix ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ

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And the older Nvidia Shield TV, which has questionable h.265 support

last plaza
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True! Upscaling can be a pain

subtle pasture
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It's always nice to have the option of transcoding if a particular endpoint croaks on a particular file.

brazen fable
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Exactly

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and with my mobile device sync, it pre-transcodes it then stores it on my mobile device

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super handy

forest edge
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prob should stop trying to watch 4k movies on lemons lol

subtle pasture
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I have a number of old DVD rips that often have issues with aspect ratio (non-square pixels of the original video file were preserved). Being able to have the server transcode them fixes the aspect ratio every time.

green inlet
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Oh, shit, here comes Sonoma

subtle pasture
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@forest edge See above, even helps old 480p DVD rips sometimes...

forest edge
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never had an issue with dvd rips

subtle pasture
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Then you may have converted them to square pixels while transcoding

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More compatible, significantly less space efficient

forest edge
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I don't transcode...

subtle pasture
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You ripped them from a DVD, yes?

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And converted them into h.264?

forest edge
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talking about dl shit, not something i personally ripped

subtle pasture
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Then whoever ripped it may have converted them to square pixels while transcoding

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The video file WAS transcoded by someone. lol

forest edge
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altho i do have some vhs shit I converted that also play fine

brazen fable
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VHS

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๐Ÿค”

green inlet
brazen fable
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We do not speak about fossils

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Next up he's going to be bringing in betamax and 8 tracks

forest edge
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@green inlet hey vhs was a thing, cannot be helped

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even have lord of the rings on vhs i think

green inlet
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I love you for it man

subtle pasture
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DVDs are often mastered with video that fills the entire 720x480 frame (trying to take advantage of as many pixels as possible to retain as much quality as possible). If a movie isn't 16:9, the DVD will then specify an aspect ratio, and the DVD player will squish the video so that the aspect ratio renders correctly on your TV

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i.e. "non-square pixels"

forest edge
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so convert it instead of relying on transcoding to fix your shit lol

subtle pasture
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it is converted, and there's nothing to "fix"

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The endpoint just doesn't respect the aspect ratio tag

tidal bronze
forest edge
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handbrake does wonders.. or use too. not sure that's still the go to thing

subtle pasture
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That's an endpoint problem, not a file problem. Plenty of video files use non-square pixels.

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They were made using handbrake.

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The default option for transcoding DVDs in Handbrake is to retain non-square pixels

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Because converting to square pixels just bloats the file size, with no increase in quality

brazen fable
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Sonoma I think you know not of which you speak

forest edge
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I know enough that everything i have never needs to be transcoded

subtle pasture
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Plex's real-time transcoding works-around the endpoint problem by converting to square pixels before streaming to the client

brazen fable
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Your variety of devices and usecases must be hilariously small then.

subtle pasture
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Because it knows the client doesn't support non-square pixels

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because Plex has a fuck-ton of device profiles built right in

forest edge
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but my movie won't play on my apple watch..

dusky plank
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usually today it's not a matter of format or compatibility between devices because of standardized containers and formats, it's more in need when you have bandwidth limitations because then you are f'ed if the stream has to buffer

subtle pasture
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bandwidth and/or the endpoint doesn't happen to support one of the codecs

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But yeah, playing from my library remotely over the internet basically requires real time transcoding. I only have so much upstream bandwidth :x

forest edge
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I don't watch shit abroad

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once i put a few movies on my psp and watched them on a plane flight but that was the extent of it lol

green inlet
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Sonoma, what about when you want to watch three men and a sheep in your barn?

dusky plank
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psp lol... I like sony and their products but I always wondered why they always need their own media formats... memory stick, UMD and all that stuff

deft pewter
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Then he has to invite two other men over.

green inlet
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Lmao Mono. He is just sitting back trying to figure out a proper response. Itโ€™s coming though

deft pewter
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I can wait

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He can finish up with the sheep first.

forest edge
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@dusky plank mine was homebrewed

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or is considering i still have it

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@green inlet this is 2020, 40+" smart tv's are free.. barns these days have the latest tech

subtle pasture
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I mean, that doesn't fix the memory stick requirement...

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How much storage can you even get in a PSP?

forest edge
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think i had a 1 gb card

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all i remmeber about it it was neon yellow in color lol

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and translucent

clear ferry
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It's nice you still have your memories at such as advanced age @forest edge

subtle pasture
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Looks like the largest "Memory Stick Pro Duo" that Sony ever made was only 32GB (though the PSP supports larger capacities than this if you use a MicroSD to MSPD adapter)

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Looks like someone even got a 128gb card working via an adapter

forest edge
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@subtle pasture this was back when either 720 wasn't or had just become a thing lol

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movie sizes were not that big

subtle pasture
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holds up a 720p / 1080i dVHS tape

dusky plank
subtle pasture
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HD has been a thing since the late 90's. lol

forest edge
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but wasn't mainstream

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wasn't the "common"

subtle pasture
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Interesting tech, as well. 50GB per tape, which is the same capacity as a dual-layer BluRay

subtle pasture
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@forest edge D-VHS was primarily sold to record HD-TV service, which hit the market WELL before HD movies went mainstream

forest edge
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my first "HD" tv was a sony trinitron or whatever that name was, was a CRT and id 1080i with a 4:3 screen size. was a 36"

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thing weghed a fucking ton

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that was like somewhere between 2003-2006

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we ended up giving it away on craigslist to just get rid of it, was in perstine condition too

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sony vega

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was a really nice tv, just weighed more than a car

green inlet
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I think they are ignoring us ATX

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Laser Discs FTW

barren hound
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I watched Terminator on LD. They forgot to censor out Arnie's dick when he's walking after time travel.

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cool tech, the discs were massive

green inlet
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I think I have around 10-15 LD. Top Gun is one. Canโ€™t remember the others but pretty sure terminator wasnโ€™t one of them

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Laser Disc is the true meaning or going out of style before it ever was in style

barren hound
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i think my dad picked it up from a pawn shop for $50 including a few discs

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it also had one of the craziest remotes with a jog wheel

clear ferry
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Top gun on LD is the shizzle

green inlet
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amirite

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Thatโ€™s really the only reason I got the LD player

forest edge
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my uncle had a laser disc player

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went out and bought all these movies

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then the format died lol

barren hound
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whoa, I didn't realize that Ubiquiti ever ran cyber monday sales.

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guess some people don't like unifi

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What do you run instead? Emoji responses, only, please.

deft pewter
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๐Ÿ†

barren hound
tropic hedge
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I've been working out this payment dispute with my gardener for a while (mostly my fault), so I decided to drive to his place to drop the check off. dude has a much nicer house than I do

barren hound
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lol

forest edge
tropic hedge
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I would have felt it if he was fucking my hand

forest edge
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lol

brazen fable
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Unifi is pretty great for what it is

storm summit
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ya. cheap and descent.

last cedar
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Absolutely descent