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But that isnβt motion detection?
i have an automation in place that gets triggered by a shake sensor beneath my chair that WoL's the desktop and activates the appropriate lighting
For the lounge room (where I sit still) the lights work on TV state, chair occupied sensors, and the state of a side lamp.
I turn on some of the downstairs lights when I get home, if it's dark out
and for the tv corner I have a motion sensor set up right so it only picks up motion on the couch
if I go on my couch between 20:00 and 00:00 it'll turn on the tv and switch the lighting just so that there's nothing shining onto the screen
it's the little things
I mean when I go to bed I just tell my lenovo smartclock goodnight and it'll turn everything off and schedule any alarms and stuff
don't really have a way to automate that accurately
tfw the bed sensor never shows an occupancy higher than one
Ouch
Bed sensor π€’
One of the most useful sensors I have.
I can't think of a useful use for it for me, and I would just use a power plug for more accurate reading
whuuuut? no human uptime monetoring?
I Would love to finaly get the Bed sensor running, got flexible working hours, just a alarm after 7.7hrs sleep would be ideal
black friday is pretty weak this year
the only thing im mildly excited about is getting a couple of switch games lol
@hearty depot protip, sleep when you are tired and wake up when you are done sleeping

This from a guy who had sleeping disorders for 20+ years due to being born above the arctic circle
Well from living in the Antarctic circle I can tell you getting up at the same time every day to try and set a routine does not work.
nah.. when I ask my cleeping cycle I would go to bed at the first day around 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 then 5... aaand so on
Yep that's what happens to me. And if I continue to get up at 7am I just get 1 hour less sleep each night until I pull an all nighter. Then the next night I get a solid 8hrs and the cycle starts again.
Hi I am looking for a garage opener device that can interface with HASS?
Interestingly my monthly averages arenβt awful.
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One 4k 28" screen on offer for black Friday that is reasonable priced
And it doesn't have vesa brackets
π
weird
the obvious solution is to make a mount that costs as much as the monitor
Only thing I don't like about that monitor is the lack of a VESA mount
There's nothing else negative about it though
Exactly
Fuckers
Made for the sick bastards that have a clean desk with a MacBook and a single monitor probably
π€’
Even a single monitor should be on an arm.
"Det er greit"? Why do you norwegians have to be so damn happy all the time?
What's wrong with a dignified "OK" to accept cookies?
"that is ok"
"meh"
No-one's ever 'ok' with accepting cookies. We just click through because we have to.
If I ever make a site that uses cookies, that's what I'll go with
But really, people from around Oslo always sound so happy.
Shoulda gotten me an Oslovian missus.
just store everything in localstorage instead
People around Oslo π€’
Because localstorage will help with tracking cookies... π€
Remote storage 
i use a ESP32 with coresponding releay. works like a charme with HA.
black friday, the day retailers get back in the black
I use an ESP8266 with a relay. Probably pretty similar to what @wanton gulch is doing π
aye, cause i thought using a shelly 1 for that would be a bit overkill. so the ESP feels much better. and it works rock solid so far.
The issue I ran into is I couldn't just wire the relay to the garage door opener itself
The original hard-wired opener button actually sends codes down the wire, it's not just momentary switch
So I had to buy a spare garage door remote, sync it to the opener, and have the ESP8266 push the button on that
On the up side, that meant I could put the ESP module pretty much anywhere
Don't mean to alarm you but there appears to be a large fire just out of shot
Nah pretty sure it's fire
The frosted cars make the presence of fire clear
Seriously though, I'd have thought keeping the car inside would be a big thing. I can't imagine scrapping that every morning
I'd prefer to scrape it than scrap it π
Oh yeah that
Aye it is, I just haven't bothered driving the car into the garage so far this year
And my wife has Webasto so
Where's your snow atx, shame
It was -3C when I went to get groceries earlier. Perfect with just a little snow to cover everything, but not too much to cycle
i lost 20 kilos over the past 6 months and now I have no blubber and all my sweaters are too big and it's cold outside
at least my beanie still fits
5head
wtf is wrong with you atxbyea.. 5.5hrs ?
That is normal for me the last 20 years
Go to bed at 02-03 and up at 08-09 before kids, now mostly 23-24 and up 05-06
would just... die... oh god.. kids ll get me into the grave
one way or another, i'm sure
I sometimes sleep a bit longer
Today I slept to 10 because the wife took the baby
Happens once every two weeks or so
After Tony left NCIS went down the drain.. its hanging on like that stubborn matter on your toiletbowl that you need a drill and a wire brush to get free..
have any manfs put out a fan switch you can turn that accursed blue light off when it is both on and off.. GE I have from over a year ago is one or the other.. never both.
Which one is Tony
Ziva was still around when I stopped watching to give you an idea
Yeah, it was at its best when Tony and Ziva were both still around.
Remember what happened to this one
She must have pissed off the studios
Still a better ending to a character than Jadzia Dax, screw you Rick Berman
Alright. What's everyone using to smarten up your breaker box
If it's even possible. I don't even know
π€
Also RIP Jadzia
Sometimes I wonder who had worsr luck with women. Harry Kim or Worf
you could go cheese and buy those wifi breakers. don't remember the brand but the breakers themselves act as smart relays through wifi, also show power usage
personally I think it's dumb. you should never use breakers as switches. monitoring power usage is one thing but to invest in that kind of setup is a waste of money at every corner
Fruit salad is something that is made of fruits, and it is yummy!
@green inlet is a fruit salad
Lmao....yes Sonoma, yes, I am. I was perusing the bot commands and saw that and thought it was funny as shit
@scenic radish added it i am sure
Tediore is away for 7d 10h 57m 43s with a message :point_right: π€
wtf 7 days?
Maybe he has the Vid π
@clear ferry you been mistreating your partner in slime to the point he left for a week? lol
I agree with Sonoma, breakers should never be switches
The laundry finished at 00:23 AM
Aight, so that's broken again...
Goddamn jinja templates
Do you think overt CCTV strongly deters porch parcel thieves
Or do you think most of them don't care
Probably. Those fake CCTV cameras still sell
Maybe people could put signs in small font on their door
"camera with real time notifications in use. If you can read this I already know you're here"
That's actually smart
Because I think It deters some people, and others will just think once they see the footage it is too late
Even though modern cameras can send notifications in real time
.... What? Is it common in the land of free parcels to leave them outside your door?
Yes but it depends
Usually companies will just leave it there unless you provide instructions
And if you aren't home they have no choice
Some delivery guys do that here in the NL. Those guys get complaints and are at some point fired / no longer commissioned
They can hold the package for another day if they feel it isn't safe for the package to be left there
Interesting
I don't think they care that much here
If you aren't home they
- leave it with neighbours
- try again tomorrow
- leave a note for you to pick it up at the supermarket
You could always mount a Gun with some servos and a solenoid.
There are delivery guys that will carelessly drop packages
So would a taser. Added benefit is if they start to move you can automatically (based on a PIR sensor) shock them again and again until someone comes around to arrest them
If a package guy left one of my packages with my neighbors I'd be furious
I've had packages left with neighbors often, a lot easier than driving to the pickup later anyway
Same... but we have relatives living next-door, so that helps.
I just have a crazy synth and American car lady above me and a Muslim couple below me, the rest of the neighbors I mostly don't interact with
π€£
Well hello, although I am new here! that taser can actually be feature : /
I want to have a different post code to my neighbours
But alas...
Seems there is at least a chance of buying a house now, got some bank stuff sorted this last week, moving bank within 2 months as well.
I would like to move futher north, to be able to see Norrhern Lights regularly
I check out my insurance and loans once a year, moved my house loan twice in 10 year already
But jobs etc
Yeah. You can save a bundle!
Also btw, raw meat lover, can I dm you about tibber at some point? It seems almost too good to be true π
Yaaaaaaas
They always leave packages by my front door
I don't think I've had anything stolen yet
But especially since covid, I think I've only had 2 items held at the post office out of 50 packages
Ty Atx :)
We have a locked door to the stairway, thry normally walk up and do a 180 and go back to depot with my packets
Especially 25kg UPS packets...
Our post offices have free parcel lockers
But I believe some places won't ship to them which is a shame
A lot of retailer dinosaurs try to promote "click and collect" as a massive convenience
We have parcel lockers , although I have never seen anyone use them
Stuff just gets put in the mailbox if small enough
Or post office if too big
But it's not like you can just drive up to a warehouse door and grab your item, you still have to do the whole find a carpark, go through the shopping complex, find someone to help you, wait for them to get it, then do it all in reverse to get out
May as well just buy things ad hoc or just amazon prime it and not have to do any of that
We have moved to mail delivery only every 2 days now, mon-wed-fri on odd weeks and tue-thu on even weeks
Then the dinosaurs have like "Ships in 5-20 working days"
That's dispatch, not delivery
And they wonder why overseas companies are eating their lunch
Long live AliExpress
Mail is pretty useless nowadays
Death to Amazon
death to all of his kind
I didnt know our post boxes were free. I'd rather they just leave stuff outside my door though
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these things seem to be popular lately
Hipsters make old stuff popular
That looks nice Atx
did I show you my finished strat atx?
wanna see it?
Unsolicited string pics
lol
I love natural wood finish
open original, discord always fucks with colours
Nitro neck?
yeah me too
nah
it was just a regular american standard neck and body, but I stripped them, oil and paste wax finish
That is a sweet guitar
thanks
I really should play my guitars π
Have a 2008 ish Ibanez S520 and an older Peavey (cheap) bass
I should have bought thr yamaha 5 string bass I wanted, but it was a lot more money at the time
Yeah, it is an expensive interest
I had a 5 strings bass, traded it in for a nicer 4 string
i had no used for a 5th string anyway
I need to pick myself up a pedal or two or something, to use headphones, I normally just play without. Neighbours :/
I got a strymon iridium just recently, works pretty well. amp/cab sim
never really liked sims before
I looked at line6 stuff many many years ago and didn't buy anything
I have a little zoom pedal for my bass
Must be 15 years old I would guess
I've always wanted a Yamaha TRB6p
googles
too many strings
If I don't buy a house,I could almost afford one π
I looked at the rbx375 originally I think
Monsterous silver thing with huge humbuckers
I am pretty small, it would have dwarfed me π
But I would be perfectly happy with a 4 string tbh :)
Maybe eventually if I actually start playing again I can treat myself
I have plans to convert my cort artisan b4 to fretless
ive been thinking of making an iso cab
not that I really need one, its something to do though
Would be a nice project!
yeah just got a few things to do first
like build a shed so I have somewhere to make it
Few things? So you can start in about 8 years then π
lol
I am defo guilty of that "just a few things to sort" stuff
ive been doing my things though
Oh, you are much better than me then
I need a certain amount of drive to do stuff otherwise nothing happens
And I hate it
I put off things like HA actually
but just physical stuff no prob
i just dont like computers
π
reminds me of this one
Hehe
I have relatives to my left, and to might right, an old dude who's favorite passtime is to tell me to "slow the fuck down!" because he thinks I'm speeding...
Note: I live in a cul de sac, so "speeding" isn't really something you can do...
Like, there's not enough room to accelerate to the point of speeding before you're crashing into someone else's house...
white grass?
we get frost silly
in a way, yes
fires every summer, frosts every winter
most aussies are on the coast though, doubt they get much frost
@deft pewter my wife caught me shaving in the bathroom again, she says I have issues
where else would you shave?
It's not the location but rather the frequency
He usually shaves while staring into a neighbour's bedroom window. Wouldn't be too creepy except he shaves his balls.
That is a very accurate representation
Anyone use aftermarket wireless charging pads? Need 3 usb c ones and a micro b. Don't need to be insane currents, has to work in a case.
I've used a few over the years, for my wife's Samsung, but they were way too picky about placement for actual use
I still miss my Palm pre and it's wireless charging
With magnet for alignment
Great product
Same so far, that is why I wondered if anyone had any that worked π
Don't eat yellow snow?
Yes
I have an idea that everyone leaves their phones in a set place. And magic happens
I found this
Weβve covered the best tips to select a wireless charging receiver for your phone, and the best wireless charging receivers in 2020 based on our test.
Can anyone confirm any of what they say?
Never tried any add-on wireless receiver
The wife had it on the S4 I think, which is 10 years ago and it has been standard since
Leapo suggested those add-on things. I'm inclined to trust her recommendation.
They look thin enough to sit inside a case too. Just means a bit of messing around if you ever want to detach it to charge with a cable instead.
S5 didn't come with wireless charging standard
I'm guessing the s4 wouldn't either
The S5 had terminals in the back though so you could change the back
And still use USB
Was it the s6π€
Probably
I assume you just buy a new phone every 8 months
I'd never ever get a phone without wireless charging nowadays.
I recommend getting upright chargers like this
I swap every two years
Wireless charging hasn't had much appeal to me since I stopped having on call in the middle of the night
It's also a great universal charger too
My wife uses iphone and I have android
But we can both use the same chargers
I just want to be able to plonk down at some points around the house and convenience charge
Wow, apple adhering to a standard
And not wear out the contacts
On the phone
I've never worn out a plug tbh
It is amazing that their phones are designed to be used by people, they differ so greatly from standards
Iphone, designed for snakes
Or racoons
My GF has worn her usb contact out. She should be one of those industrial testers
Because she could destroy a titanium brick
Do raccoons mate for life?
I've broken usb on a few phones
So the new Apple MagSafe stuff works with Qi chargers?
I am not sure how it is for other racoons, but not for me, no. But so far yes.
Apple has indeed done another Apple.
Then you should put a trash ring on it
But this time their 'innovation' is adding magnets to wireless charging.
Put a gasket on it.
Wireless charging used to have magnets
So apples done an apple
Taken something from the past and marketing it as new great innovation
Ie scissor lift keys
Well they have made apples great though
Much more red and green since apple started going away from standards
Make Apple Great Again
It was a proper mediocre fruit before
But now it is hip and trendy
All thanks to Mr Jobs
I think he actually invented apples
My after market wireless receiver for my s3 had magnetic alignment
Worked pretty well
Although upright docks avoid all that kurfuffle
I could potentially make my own stand
With say, an ikea charger plate. Or some diy plate
Was thinking just plonk down on bed side table, and use HA to turn off outlet at 95% charge (for that phone)
And turn on next day at a set time
I'd just buy one for $15
I have a single ikea one atm, bought for testing
Your phone should manage your charge state
The one with 1 or 3 (bought the 1)
Can you set your phone to stop charging at 80% if you don't need the battery
I don't hsve wireless built in. So it will be in thr bottom via one of those plates
Yes, sort off
There is a battery saver thing
Just do that and let the phone handle it
I do that manually atm
Charge in evening, let it drain at night and then go work. So like I would need to change my routine
Sounds like a good idea badtelcotech
Out of curiosity: Is this discord server the place where HA ppl is hanging out, or this is a "side-thing"? Because I'm not feeling overwhelmed with answers when I raise them in the various channels. If I do the same in the python communities, I'm swamped with answers π I'm a first time adopter and I'm stuck and I'm wondering where the most effective place is to raise questions.
@last cedar if you need a stand or alignment printed, tell me and I'll print and ship one π€£
Ty Atx, very kind of you to offer!
@cinder heart I haven't been here long, but I use this as more of a resource for ideas, rather than getting definitive answers on specific questions.
Yes, absolutely!
@cinder heart There is no shortage of answers here. π€
@deft pewter ok perhaps, yet my 6 questions around in various channels remain unanswered. And this is not my first attempt at trying to tackle HA. I'm not trying to sound ungrateful and insatiable, I'm just curious if this is the level of activity to expect in here.
If I am unable to get the HA concept test up and running with a day's effort, I might have to conclude that this is not my cup of tea, and stick with my old custom built automation system.
As one of the many people that answers questions here, I can assure you that the vast majority of people get the help they're after.
What is the channel for discussing OS-level issues of the HassOS? Is it #330990055533576204 or is this only about installing?
But the helpers here are volunteers and don't know everything. They also sleep, since they're mortals, and have work and personal lives to attend to.
All OS-level issues go in the installation channels, yes.
@deft pewter thanks
@deft pewter which then could indicate that my use case or questions is unusual. Or that the community isn't that big (as you put it, need to eat and sleep). These are precisely the feelers I tried to grasp here in order to determine if I'm going to use HA or find something else π thanks
This is probably the biggest home automation platform at the moment
But if you are advanced enough to be fiddling with anything home made the #330990055533576204 might be limiting you to achieve your goal
Isn't that big? Yeah... 6k people signed in isn't big π€
To be honest... if you're just going to criticise, you finding another solution would be best (for all of us).
@cinder heart I can only speak for myself but I've gotten very good and mostly quick help in here from various different queustions. People are in general very helpful and knowledable
@cinder heart and for what it's worth, chat is async, people work/are awake at different times. Don't expect to always get help within a few minutes, people are in here for free and help out for free (mostly, HA do have a few employees but their work descriptions aren't support afaik)
@deft pewter Pardon if it sounds like criticism, that's not my intention at all. I'm grateful and know how FOSS projects work.
Yet, its frustrating if one can't even get the trial project off its feet. How much time is reasonable to invest for a concept test?
@odd kindle thanks
@clear ferry yep, it's not like I really want to fiddle with hassos, but evidently I have to to get this z-wave thing up and running π¦
@jovial marten where are those? on facebook?
@cinder heart #330990055533576204 is not a requirement for #zwave-archived
@clear ferry ok, I just followed the installation instructions on the HA website and it suggests using HassOS. But I certainly see that the docs for z-wave doesn't describe how to set it up in a hassos environment.
so uhm... support channel?
Sorry. Where do I talk about HA in general?
If you have issues with your installation then the installation channels, if it is with zwave then #zwave-archived if it is with integration then #integrations-archived there is no catch-all
Morning, all! Just looking into Home Assistant, and I was wondering how easy it is to migrate configuration between different devices?
I have Synology NAS that I could run HA on, but Iβd like a dedicated device if I get more into home automation. Would it be easy to trial a few things on the NAS and then move everything to a dedicated Pi?
My end objective is this: I plan to run HA in docker in the server room, but have zwave run remote rpi if possible. I'm concept testing HA locally on the rpi with razberry, which where I'm struggling right now. I don't even know if HA is fit for the zwave stuff, nor do I know if HA is suitable overall. And if I'm not capable of testing this without very much effort, HA might not be my thing. I hope that is not unreasonable. I would surely like to run this on my own, but I notice I'm already way off the limb already to what the docs describe.
Is this general for HA, that there is a lot of tinkering to get things running?
@cinder heart that's very subjective, Imho HA is next to no tinkering what so ever. It's been running next to perfect for year for me
That being said, what do you consider tinkering? I run HA in a VM running docker, I use a usb zigbee device map:ed to that docker. It was super easy to map that, but it did require me to assign it first from proxmox into the VM and then into docker.
But compared to my attempts at doing proper gpu pass through and getting it up and running it was not hard at all
I'm currently tryign to get influxdb 2 to play nicely with grafana using their old query language. That required the very latest patch version of influxdb and for me to read up on retention policies as well as how I map a bucket to a database, it's far more complicted than HA have ever been
honestly, getting HA up and running in docker is as simpel as "docker-compose up -d" using their existin docker-compose.yml file
But noone in here can really say what you consider tinkering
@odd kindle cool! I cannot have the z-wave controller located on the machine running docker, so they need to be remote from each other. So eventually I need to learn how to setup MQTT to a remote rpi to interface the razberry. As for tinkering, I just meant that I apparently have to do stuff with the installed system to have them integrated with the razberry, even when HA is running on the same device.
@lavish fern this channel isn't really a support channel. All config files are stored in the same folder so it's fairly simple to move them. I'm not sure if you could do the same with auth tokens and such. I'd ask in on of the support channels, #449717345808547842 or such
Thanks for response and the advice on how to use the server.
Yeah, I'm sorry for using the lounge for this. I as a newbie I don't know how and where to raise the overall architectural questions. "What is the best way to solve this problem"-type.
How much of a problem would it be for Alexa to connect to my Lightbulbs using Hub
When i've already got ZHA connecting to it too
Very easy
So. Many. Support. Questions.
Thanks
Someone should put something in the topic about not asking support questions in here.
Plea from newbie: Make a channel for overall/high-level questions. It's difficult to know how to partition your questions into segments when you don't know if the overall fundamental assumptions is wrong or not. edit I arrived here because the docs are too sparse and I'm stuck digging on my own. I would prefer on my own thou.
@clever mortar perfect, thanks
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βοΈ There you go
And asking for support π
I'm sorry, there isn't enough help left available in this lifetime
Next lifetime isn't looking good either
how come i cant find raspbian anywherE?
Because it was renamed months ago?
Or maybe you lost it down the back of the sofa?
Probably not
Well, if you couldn't find it with Google, that's where I'd look
ill just download raspberry pi os lite instead
instead π€
Raspberry π€
oh turns out they are both the same thing
Yeah, but you Google it you get Raspberry Pi OS - and the first words on the Wikipedia entry tell you all about it
That said...
reading.. pssh.. so 1990's
Anyone find killer deals on electronics this weekend? Amazon had/has Gosund switches for less than 10/pc. My OCS disease required less expensive devices because they have to match --- and I'm still upset I cannot find the ivory toggle that I'd like to have so I will be ordering a slug of outlets soon too
Gotta say I'm liking Influxdb 2
Influxer dber ?
2er!
InfluxcapacitorDocBrown
Illuminati confirmed
Just saw on reddit lidl (uk) zigbee devices soon
One of them is a 4 way gang
Exciting!
Hello All
what is the best way to install Home Assistant on a Windows PC that will be my always on PC?
Assuming Windows Server Core? Install the WSL 2.0 and then fire HomeAssistant up as a Docker container
Windows 10 Pro but I have just enabled WSL 2
If you want it to be always-on, Windows 10 Pro isn't a great choice
Server Core requires the fewest updates and reboots
I am using what I have at the moment
Server Core is free. lol
oh
True I bought the system based on a video from the Hook Up where Rob uses a Windows 10 system with 32 Gig of RAM and I7 Core
I will say thereβs a quick fix to disable the auto reboot when your evaluation period expires
If u were preferring windows server
@obsidian ibex I mean, I figured just use Hyper-V server since it's free (no trial) and can run both Windows and Linux docker containers
And it's a Server Core release, so you gain the benefit of lower resource usage (no GUI), fewer updates, and fewer reboots
Nice, makes sense, a lot of people arnβt smart enough to figure that out though, Windows Server is ez mode π
I am an Network/Security engineer but can't say I am super strong on server side of things
Running HA on a Raspberry Pi that boots off of a 500Gig SSD Drive
That's basically what I'm doing right now. Pi 3B with a 120GB SATA SSD
Since I am moving in to new home I want to also use the system for a security system setup
I could run HA out of a VM on my virtualization cluster, but I kinda wanted dedicated hardware for it
and going to try out Blue Iris but that requires a windows machine
Ah, yeah, Blu Iris. That'll do it
Robs video shows him using VirtualBox to install Home Assistant
Yeah, you can run HomeAssistant on VirtualBox, Hyper-V, or ESXi
Runs great on ESXi
So you guys sound like you are VM smart, so on my current other windows machine I am running ubuntu WSL
and it is working fine
I don't have hyper-v enabled
when would I want to enable hyper v?
@subtle pasture hows the 3B perform? Iβve a 3B+ running just pihole/pivpn but I plan to wipe it, add an SSD, HA/adguard etc. Iβm hoping to get away with not buying a Pi4 lol
WSL lacks full linux functionality
Seems fine, especially booting from SSD on a recent version of HomeAssistant
@obsidian ibex Not true in Server 2019 (or a recent version of Windows 10). WSL 2.0 includes the complete Linux kernel
yeah I am just using it to learn more about linux anyway
Nice! Whatβs the average reboot time? I read someone saying 5-6mins.
I still ran into headaches with 2019, canβt remember why.
So if I were to use windows 10 and installed docker desktop, I could then use the IOTstack process to install Home Assistant and Mosquitto and influxDB and Grafana etc..... ?
in Docker containers
Do u plan to use the machine for anything else?
It will be my always on machine. I will also run my security systems through it with Blue Iris and such
And integrate all them with Home Assistant
It is not worst machine on planet, it is Core i7, 32 Gig RAM and 1 TB SSD Drive
@subtle pasture βs suggestion is probs best, Windows 10/server just suck for longterm
Youβll be scheduling daily reboots just to keep the thing working
@subtle pasture can you point me to where to find the free server core files?
@obsidian ibex Nah, daily reboots aren't required, but non-server (or not LTSC builds) of Windows aren't suitable for server use where uptime is required
I work an at MSP, we manage primarily Windows servers (over 300 of them), they'll generally stay up forever if updates are deferred
The Microsoft Evaluation Center brings you full-featured Microsoft product evaluation software available for download or trial on Microsoft Azure.
It's in their "evaluation" center, but it's not an evaluation copy
"Unlimited"
Iβve been a windows sysadmin for 10+ years, they most certainly do not usually stay up/functional without regular reboots, completely depends on the application. A Linux/Unix box will commonly remain up for months at a time.
Weird, guess we just know what we're doing π
It's usually the Linux machines we have trouble with
Individual versions of Linux have pretty short support lifecycles compared to Windows, so we constantly need to do ground-up reinstalls on those things
I've started to push for RedHad / CentOS where I can, since it has a 10-year lifecycle. Way fewer headaches with that.
Are you using any sort of config management for the linux boxes
I'm using an only Intel NUC, running HA inside of a small Docker container. deCONZ in another container, zwave2mqtt in another, mosquitto in another, and so on. The box isn't breathing hard. Lots of room for growth.
@subtle pasture More likely just luck! Iβd guess theyβre either running standard Windows roles, or well made apps(rare lol.) 300 isnβt a lot, our small team used to manage double that on one contract, managed 1000βs between us. Wish Iβd went down the Linux sysadmin route instead, might still transfer at some point
Tasks: 189 total, 1 running, 188 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
%Cpu0 : 3.9 us, 1.0 sy, 0.0 ni, 92.2 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 2.9 si, 0.0 st
%Cpu1 : 5.8 us, 1.9 sy, 1.0 ni, 89.4 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 1.9 si, 0.0 st
%Cpu2 : 11.9 us, 0.0 sy, 0.0 ni, 88.1 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st
%Cpu3 : 12.9 us, 3.0 sy, 0.0 ni, 82.2 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 2.0 si, 0.0 st
KiB Mem : 32710704 total, 25810600 free, 1525316 used, 5374788 buff/cache
KiB Swap: 8388604 total, 8378108 free, 10496 used. 30768564 avail Mem```
That's my NUC
I was a linux sysadmin for most of my career before I jumped into management so I might have an advantage in getting the most out of this box. And there really is a good bit of stuff running on it.
Anyone have a samsung smart TV
When i add it I dont get entities so I really can't do anything with it. Which is weird
@obsidian ibex uh my windows server goes 2-3 months at a time
it might go longer if I wasn't tinkering with it sometimes
Thatβs decent but itβs also a single case example
I wouldn't get too fanatical about uptimes
Especially for maintenance rather than unplanned outages
Overall availability is a far more valuable metric than time since last boot
I have several windows servers at work too and it's the same story
People like to knock on it but Windows server is pretty reliable
Vanity metricsΒ are things you can measure that don't matter. They're easily changed or manipulated, and they don't bear a direct correlation with numbers that speak to business success.
anybody using IOT Link?
Not in the Lounge @errant pond , possibly #integrations-archived
All good, just read the channel topics π
Strictly speaking, we manage 2000 Windows endpoints, a little over 300 of those are servers. No real systemic issues with uptime or stability
yep... you can see in my screen cap my own linux machine has a day of uptime. That's because yesterday I was running package maintenance & rebooted. Good hygiene is important, though I have faith I could (if I were inclined) leave this running for a year+ with no reboots if I wanted to go for a walk around the world or something and forget about my responsibilities for awhile.
my only real regrets with this setup right now is the rate limiting on Docker Hub
And it's our job to keep them running well, not luck π€£
Such a silly discussion smh
Not yet, not enough of them to bother with conf management, even across 90 clients
I think there are 8 Linux servers total in our client base
Up now
Noticed because Plex ate shit when I tried to let it update itself. lol
Yeaaaah... I'm gonna say the download didn't complete on this one...
This is the file Plex itself pulled while trying to update
Got the 500 error when pulling an update as well. Was down for like 2 minutes
Yeah, well, now Plex is hosed. Super...
Gotta love updating during the wrong 2 minutes
Looks like they're still down / having issues
you should still be able to reach your server locally
Nope, lol
I'm self-hosted, but it won't let me in
That's wierd
I get the above error when visiting the Plex server's IP:Port
Mine lets me in on both direct IP and my home DNS
Won't let me in unless I remote into the plex server itself and connect from localhost
THEN I can get in
Oh... or not...
"unable to connect to plex.tv at this time"
Aight, can't even log in locally...
Try letting it sit for a minute. It took mine a minute to load
Then it loaded right up
mine is spinning so far.
Do you have authentication on your local network on?
ahh! Got in. but it only had my user to select. usually there are more.
yeah any add on users i don't think would be available
oh. nm. dead again
"Plex is not reachable - Make sure your server has an internet connection"
Yeah, can't get in at all...
Plex has some seriously shitty behavior when it can't reach the cloud π
Because I know for a fact you can use it without internet. I've done it a few times this year during random outages
dashboard loaded. finally.
@brazen fable Yeah, you can use it without internet if you log out of plex.tv...
But I need to get in to log out. lol
seems to be hit and miss
Looks like it's because I enabled Plex Home
Once that's on, you NEED the cloud connection for auth
Fun...
how do you diable it
I mean, my use case requires it
For what?
All the people in my Plex Home?
If I leave the Home, I cut off access to everyone but me. lol
Welp, dunno what to tell you, I can't get in even by being on the desktop on the Plex server itself, connecting to localhost:port
It just tells me to wait for plex.tv to be up
I just added my home's subnet accessible without auth
Plex Home should require plex.tv
That's the default
Plex automatically white-lists the entire /24 where it's installed
I tried to move plex from a Linux install to docker and it didn't work last week
I had to set it up manually again, not a huge deal but now it's not using the x-real-ip header properly for local viewing
So it tries to use remote transcoding even though I'm inside the network
Plex is trash and you people expect good stuff? /laff
Plex is pretty great tbh
It does what I need it to do 99.9% of the time and it's very hands off
Yeah, literally the only issue I ever have with Plex is the occasional auth problems during outages
However, that's a pretty big issue when it does happen
I'd check your Auth settings. I don't think the whole subnet is whitelisted by default
It is, I checked
Not true, it's in the registry
I've never really had issues during outages
It just ran a little slower checking for internet Auth first
But it always ran
Still does
that's scary lol
Plex basically never breaks for me
I've run plex for nearly a decade and I can probably count on one hand the issues I've had with it
Probably longer than a decade by now tbh
That's great, but I'm locked out. lol
That being said, always have a backup
Can't even get in from localhost. It hardline requires plex.tv for logins
I suppose the backup would be a second Plex server that's not signed in to Plex.tv
Which will always work offline
or just use a real media management software lol
Plex is real media management software?
Plex is one deal away from becoming an amazon product
Too bad nothing else seems to work very well...
Even Kodi works best with a Plex server backing it.
you realize plex is literally built off kodi/xmbc right?
It was, originally
I even just signed in with my phone browser
pretty sure most of it still is lol
On wifi
They've ditched most of the original codebase
that would explain why it's shit then..
It's buggy and hacked together
Except I like Plex better than Kodi... Kodi still doesn't have a proper client/server infrastructure unless you use Plex as a backend for it
lol
Kodi is for people who know wtf they are doing lol
Lemme know when Kodi splits the backend from the frontend, maybe I'll take another look
Kodi is dogshit
never had a single issue in the 20 some odd years i been running it
I can run plex on virtually anything. Including on my android auto head unit
My biggest issue with Kodi: No centralized management
Every instance it its own stand-alone index of content
You can try and get multiple Kodi instances to share a single media database, but that requires setting up a database server from scratch
Or... just connect Kodi to Plex, then you get your fancy plugin-loaded frontend and an easy to manage backend
clicking export seems easy enough for me lol
Not to mention plex has fantastic tagging software for media management
Literally 0 touch and it loads the metadata
Wouldn't you have to export / import after every single new media addition? Even more often if you want watched status to stay in sync
Plex is dogshit
Oh yeah, media sync too
like i said, one deal away from becoming an amazon product lol
Having content automatically sync to my mobile devices based on what's on watched is an amazing feature
Everything is one deal away from an Amazon product
@forest edge I doubt it, lol
Let's stop pretending everything doesn't have its price
I don't. i really don't lol
It won't happen
Amazon is rich enough to buy anything
if it does, someone'll fork Plex and off it goes...
Someone actually still maintains the XBMC-based version of the Plex frontend
if you want to run that
Not official, but it's up on github and is maintained to still connect to modern Plex servers
you will be watching your wedding video with ad breaks about hemorrhoid cream every 10 minutes
Won't happen
Uh huh
Amazon isn't stupid enough to kill their own products like that...
lol noone would fork plex
Why would nobody fork Plex?
why would you
It's literally the king of the market
@forest edge I told you why...
Like it's not even a close comparison
The only people that use kodi in 2020 are broke pirates
how could you fork plex? its not open source.
In a hypothetical future where Amazon buys Plex out and injects ads into local content, you bet your ass someone will fork it, rebrand it, and NOT do that with their version
There's an open source version
she was refering to the old plex that was still based off xmbc
of plex? where?
@forest edge I wasn't
isnt that what you said?
I don't think it's as polished as real plex
so its not plex?
No? I mentioned the old frontend that's still on life support, but we're talking about Plex Media Server here
I said why would anyone fork plex, you said you already said why and talked about some old version fo plex
so π€·ββοΈ
I did not
why are you talk about forking it if its not forkable?
I even re-explained it...
In a hypothetical future where Amazon buys Plex out and injects ads into local content, you bet your ass someone will fork it, rebrand it, and NOT do that with their version
no
@storm summit It's GPLv2, should be forkable
because its not forkable. lol
plus noone forks trash
are you talking about this? https://github.com/plexinc/plex-media-player
you want the player?
I talked about that ages ago, but that's unrelated to a fork of Plex Media Server
switch to Kodi, learn Kodi and you will feel like you switch from Hubitat to Home Assistant
I've tried Kodi, never sticks
Kodi learning curve for more advanced stuff can be alittle steep in some areas
but there is nothing you cannot do in Kodi that you can in Plex.. aside from wait for ad injection
And reading up on it now... the situation still hasn't improved. Still requires building a database server and connecting all instances to it manually
Not going to bother with Kodi until the client/server infrastructure isn't a huge kludge
and you can't lock yourself out because someone can't connect to some garbage server online lol
@forest edge I got in, actually
ServerIP:Port always works, it didn't like "localhost" being in the address bar
you just gotta look harder, my setup is flawless and wasn't some elaborate thing you keep ranting about
It's not that elaborate if you just use plex...
Trying to replicate Plex's functionality on Kodi appears to still require a MySQL server
I just use a nas and all of my kodiclients pull everything from that
so π€·ββοΈ
Yeah, but are you centralizing the media database?
Otherwise every single endpoint has to re-scrape everything, and watched status doesn't sync
on the nas, that's what all my clients do lol
So you did set up a MySQL database?
nope
Aight, so you re-scrape everything on every individual client...
nope
So you set up a database?
It's either one or the other buddy
well if you call a folder with an xml and some images a database.. sure..
Also, tracking play lists, watched items, being able to cross sync, etc
He's storing flatfiles in every single directory, lol
all of that
Kodi has like 10% of the feature set of plex
THat has to be really, really slow re-scanning everything when you add a new Kodi client...
It would probably choke reading my library
Hello. Has anyone have issues with HA not completing startup due to it failing to set up the cloud component? I moved and when I started HA back up at the new house it started giving me issues. Pulling my hair out trying to figure it out. I can move this to a different thread if it's more appropriate for this. Thanks!
well my collection is alittle over 1000 and it takes 15 seconds.. so yea, it's slow as hell
Not a support channel @stone valve
Try uh..
Where tediore when you need him
He's the channel master
@forest edge It took hours for Kodi to scrape my library last time I tried it, and that was when my library was much, much smaller...
Try front end?
Gotcha. Thanks.
@subtle pasture you did something wrong
And it left flatfiles everywhere, which had to be cleaned up when I ditched it. lol
like i said learn kodi
Right. Plex does its job
It does it well.
And it does it better than everyone else
And it's mostly free
like a turd rolling down a hill
I mean I can't argue I am a cheap ass..but that has nothing to do with plex being shit lol
I don't have to tinker with plex at all. 0. It just works.
You haven't listed a single legitimate grievance
Kodi is the one that still doesn't have a client/server architecture, lol
dat plex pass doe
It works fantastically well
this whole convo is a list on it';s own lol
same
sorry for your loss
All it is - is you repeating that you dislike plex
Which hey, that's cool. You do you
thx
But your personal opinion means shit
Plex has been one of the best installs Ive ever made. Because it works
This ^
The only reason I'm using home Assistant is because there's nothing else like it
sounds like your missing out on a whole world of cool stuff
And even HA is unreliable for my tastes
Like I said, i tried Kodi, and ditched it
But I deal with it because it's the best there is
After experiencing both, I don't feel like I'm missing out
it's cool i understand
No, I can set up a MySQL server just fine, but it's not what I want
Also, it still requires that one of the Kodi frontends do the scraping, so you have a frontend that has to be running 24x7 somewhere...
Kodi just feels jank
Imagine what kind of shit lord script kiddie you'd have to be to think kodi is even remotely near advanced
@subtle pasture you just need to learn kodi lol
I did... I didn't like it
No it's not. It's just bad.
I don't want a jank setup where I have to manually configure every single client to connect to a MySQL database, and that requires a GUI frontend to be running in order to scrape media
There's a reason plex hard won the war.
war?
Imagine having to retune a config file to unwind and watch some star trek after work
And we haven't even started discussing remote access yet
Lululul
there was a war?
Kodi is not a client/server arch
Kodi is more like running outlook on your desktop vs Gmail
I dunno about that
I mean I guess, but outlook? using outlook as a comparison? π€’
and you have to have a lot of processing power at each client if transcoding is needed
Exactly what I've been saying
and that's why you praise plex
@last dirge Oh yikes, does Kodi even handle remote transcoding?
@last dirge actually there is a backend for that
how can it?
Yikes
I don't use transcoding tho
Plex literally keeps my old Roku 3 alive because it can transcode server-side.
plex server runs big hardware, clients are dumb
The Roku can't play anything h.265 on its own
Which is the right way to go when you're serving media
and I don't have to worry about whatever Sonarr downloads to avoid transcoding issues
dude, I'm too old for this shit
someone was ragging on me for still using sab
I totally forgot about transcoding because Plex just handles it automatically. That's a HUGE point
you can transcode with Kodi.. if that's what your about to divve into lol
Except to mobile devices
@forest edge You can have a remote server transcode in real-time for a weak Kodi client?
as i stated above. there is NOTHING plex can do that you cannot do with Kodi
I'm digging through the wiki now, but I'm not seeing it
sure
π€£
But Kodi has no server component, so.. how?
you would have to look up the git.. people made all kinds of transcoding things for Kodi
Kodi does not transcode on any supported platform. It always plays the original quality
I don't use transcoding
There's my answer...
I told ya' I was digging for it, because that's a huge gap in its feature set...
you do it through the backend..
I keep saying there are backends for kodi lol
dude.. remove the stick l;ol
The only thing I see coming up for remote-transcoding for Kodi is... using Plex as a server for Kodi
Which is fine, I mentioned that as a solution a while back
I saw it once, i'll look for it after a bit
Use the Kodi frontend with the Plex backend
was helping someone else get something set up a few years ago
There's even an official Plex plugin for Kodi to integrate the two
Of course there is
So you can have your cake and eat it too, if you REALLY like the Kodi frontend
Because plex is awesome
"helping someone get something set up"
Plex has plug-ins and compatibility with everything
"just click browse and find the folder where Plex can find your stuff"
"that's it?"
"pretty much"
Yup, Plex has Android Auto integration
Oh speaking of cars
Any of you knowledgeable on car audio?
Specifically brands and such?
I can give you 15 year old knowledge π
Because the salesmen keep trying to sell me 3k audio systems
And I'm not having it
Lmao
I installed it professionally for 5 years
I'll spend half that happily
personally for a few years before that
your the guy that throws the pennies down the vents aren't you?!
What's a penny?
@brazen fable Which part of your system are you upgrading?
All of it
what in?
Except the head unit
Head unit, amp and speakers? Dayum
2020 accord
Yeah, you could easily spend $3k
8 speakers and a sub / amp
Blaupunkt
but you're leaving the Honda head unit in?
Yeah
Blaupunkt sucks a D
I kinda want to upgrade my head unit, but at the same time... my phone works fine synced with the current one over bluetooth in its dashboard-mounted charging cradle
which Alpine?
But I don't need that much power
X, S, R?
R series
Yep
I just want something better than I have now
I love Honda
But their audio blows
Well that was a waste of 15 minutes of my life π
@brazen fable We have him on a diet. He's somehow managing to maintain 19 lbs even with the caloric restriction...
Big cats have more belly to rub. So it is really win win
Christmais shopping! -_- my poor wallet xD
someone can recommend an Blender/ High power(?) Food Processors to me
rent a goat
Kenwood 4 lyfe
because I'm a man I would like to shop this
https://youtu.be/KWqw5SpITg8?t=111
RFID adds spice
But if you blend all the Pi's, we'll only have about 5% of the HA users left.
That's optimistic
2%?