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midnight adder
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nah only where I sit

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hallway lights up based on motion

hidden tiger
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But that isn’t motion detection?

midnight adder
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i have an automation in place that gets triggered by a shake sensor beneath my chair that WoL's the desktop and activates the appropriate lighting

young sigil
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For the lounge room (where I sit still) the lights work on TV state, chair occupied sensors, and the state of a side lamp.

inner vault
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I turn on some of the downstairs lights when I get home, if it's dark out

midnight adder
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and for the tv corner I have a motion sensor set up right so it only picks up motion on the couch

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if I go on my couch between 20:00 and 00:00 it'll turn on the tv and switch the lighting just so that there's nothing shining onto the screen

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it's the little things

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I mean when I go to bed I just tell my lenovo smartclock goodnight and it'll turn everything off and schedule any alarms and stuff

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don't really have a way to automate that accurately

young sigil
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Check the forums for bed sensors.

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So much to automate when that is detected.

midnight adder
brisk glen
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Ouch

clear ferry
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Bed sensor 🀒

young sigil
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One of the most useful sensors I have.

clear ferry
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I can't think of a useful use for it for me, and I would just use a power plug for more accurate reading

hearty depot
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whuuuut? no human uptime monetoring?

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I Would love to finaly get the Bed sensor running, got flexible working hours, just a alarm after 7.7hrs sleep would be ideal

shy comet
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black friday is pretty weak this year

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the only thing im mildly excited about is getting a couple of switch games lol

clear ferry
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@hearty depot protip, sleep when you are tired and wake up when you are done sleeping

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This from a guy who had sleeping disorders for 20+ years due to being born above the arctic circle

young sigil
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Well from living in the Antarctic circle I can tell you getting up at the same time every day to try and set a routine does not work.

hearty depot
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nah.. when I ask my cleeping cycle I would go to bed at the first day around 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 then 5... aaand so on

young sigil
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Yep that's what happens to me. And if I continue to get up at 7am I just get 1 hour less sleep each night until I pull an all nighter. Then the next night I get a solid 8hrs and the cycle starts again.

clear ferry
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Getting a crotch goblin helps too

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Then you'll always wake up too early

young sigil
vocal mauve
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Hi I am looking for a garage opener device that can interface with HASS?

clear ferry
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DIY

young sigil
deft pewter
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clear ferry
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One 4k 28" screen on offer for black Friday that is reasonable priced

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And it doesn't have vesa brackets

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😠

night zodiac
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weird

clear ferry
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🀬

night zodiac
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the obvious solution is to make a mount that costs as much as the monitor

clever mortar
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Only thing I don't like about that monitor is the lack of a VESA mount

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There's nothing else negative about it though

clear ferry
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Exactly

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Fuckers

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Made for the sick bastards that have a clean desk with a MacBook and a single monitor probably

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🀒

deft pewter
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Even a single monitor should be on an arm.

low harness
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"Det er greit"? Why do you norwegians have to be so damn happy all the time?

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What's wrong with a dignified "OK" to accept cookies?

deft pewter
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"That's great"?

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🀒

clear ferry
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"that is ok"

night zodiac
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"meh"

deft pewter
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No-one's ever 'ok' with accepting cookies. We just click through because we have to.

low harness
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If I ever make a site that uses cookies, that's what I'll go with

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But really, people from around Oslo always sound so happy.

deft pewter
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Shoulda gotten me an Oslovian missus.

midnight adder
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just store everything in localstorage insteadsmart

clear ferry
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People around Oslo 🀒

deft pewter
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Because localstorage will help with tracking cookies... πŸ€”

clear ferry
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Remote storage smart

wanton gulch
midnight adder
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black friday, the day retailers get back in the black

subtle pasture
wanton gulch
subtle pasture
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The issue I ran into is I couldn't just wire the relay to the garage door opener itself

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The original hard-wired opener button actually sends codes down the wire, it's not just momentary switch

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So I had to buy a spare garage door remote, sync it to the opener, and have the ESP8266 push the button on that

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On the up side, that meant I could put the ESP module pretty much anywhere

clear ferry
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Mildly cold outside

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Just -7c

slate marsh
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Don't mean to alarm you but there appears to be a large fire just out of shot

clear ferry
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That would be light reflection

slate marsh
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Nah pretty sure it's fire

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The frosted cars make the presence of fire clear

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Seriously though, I'd have thought keeping the car inside would be a big thing. I can't imagine scrapping that every morning

clever mortar
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I'd prefer to scrape it than scrap it πŸ˜›

slate marsh
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Oh yeah that

clear ferry
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Aye it is, I just haven't bothered driving the car into the garage so far this year

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And my wife has Webasto so

orchid rose
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Where's your snow atx, shame

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It was -3C when I went to get groceries earlier. Perfect with just a little snow to cover everything, but not too much to cycle

midnight adder
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i lost 20 kilos over the past 6 months and now I have no blubber and all my sweaters are too big and it's cold outside

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at least my beanie still fits

orchid rose
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5head

hearty depot
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wtf is wrong with you atxbyea.. 5.5hrs ?

clear ferry
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That is normal for me the last 20 years

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Go to bed at 02-03 and up at 08-09 before kids, now mostly 23-24 and up 05-06

hearty depot
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would just... die... oh god.. kids ll get me into the grave

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one way or another, i'm sure

clear ferry
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I sometimes sleep a bit longer

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Today I slept to 10 because the wife took the baby

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Happens once every two weeks or so

tribal whale
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After Tony left NCIS went down the drain.. its hanging on like that stubborn matter on your toiletbowl that you need a drill and a wire brush to get free..

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have any manfs put out a fan switch you can turn that accursed blue light off when it is both on and off.. GE I have from over a year ago is one or the other.. never both.

hushed basalt
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Which one is Tony

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Ziva was still around when I stopped watching to give you an idea

deft pewter
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Yeah, it was at its best when Tony and Ziva were both still around.

hushed basalt
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Remember what happened to this one

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She must have pissed off the studios

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Still a better ending to a character than Jadzia Dax, screw you Rick Berman

brazen fable
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Alright. What's everyone using to smarten up your breaker box

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If it's even possible. I don't even know

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πŸ€”

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Also RIP Jadzia

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Sometimes I wonder who had worsr luck with women. Harry Kim or Worf

forest edge
forest edge
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personally I think it's dumb. you should never use breakers as switches. monitoring power usage is one thing but to invest in that kind of setup is a waste of money at every corner

velvet horizonBOT
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Fruit salad is something that is made of fruits, and it is yummy!

forest edge
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@green inlet is a fruit salad

green inlet
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Lmao....yes Sonoma, yes, I am. I was perusing the bot commands and saw that and thought it was funny as shit

forest edge
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@scenic radish added it i am sure

velvet horizonBOT
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Tediore is away for 7d 10h 57m 43s with a message :point_right: 🀏

forest edge
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wtf 7 days?

green inlet
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Maybe he has the Vid πŸ˜‰

forest edge
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@clear ferry you been mistreating your partner in slime to the point he left for a week? lol

hushed basalt
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I agree with Sonoma, breakers should never be switches

subtle pasture
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The laundry finished at 00:23 AM

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Aight, so that's broken again...

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Goddamn jinja templates

hushed basalt
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Do you think overt CCTV strongly deters porch parcel thieves

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Or do you think most of them don't care

subtle pasture
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Probably. Those fake CCTV cameras still sell

hushed basalt
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Maybe people could put signs in small font on their door

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"camera with real time notifications in use. If you can read this I already know you're here"

shadow wren
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That's actually smart

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Because I think It deters some people, and others will just think once they see the footage it is too late

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Even though modern cameras can send notifications in real time

turbid stirrup
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.... What? Is it common in the land of free parcels to leave them outside your door?

shadow wren
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Yes but it depends

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Usually companies will just leave it there unless you provide instructions

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And if you aren't home they have no choice

turbid stirrup
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Some delivery guys do that here in the NL. Those guys get complaints and are at some point fired / no longer commissioned

shadow wren
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They can hold the package for another day if they feel it isn't safe for the package to be left there

shadow wren
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I don't think they care that much here

turbid stirrup
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If you aren't home they

  • leave it with neighbours
  • try again tomorrow
  • leave a note for you to pick it up at the supermarket
rare condor
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You could always mount a Gun with some servos and a solenoid.

shadow wren
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There are delivery guys that will carelessly drop packages

rare condor
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A nerf gun of course

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That would likely deter people

turbid stirrup
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So would a taser. Added benefit is if they start to move you can automatically (based on a PIR sensor) shock them again and again until someone comes around to arrest them

brazen fable
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If a package guy left one of my packages with my neighbors I'd be furious

clear ferry
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I've had packages left with neighbors often, a lot easier than driving to the pickup later anyway

subtle pasture
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Same... but we have relatives living next-door, so that helps.

clear ferry
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I just have a crazy synth and American car lady above me and a Muslim couple below me, the rest of the neighbors I mostly don't interact with

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🀣

lapis estuary
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Well hello, although I am new here! that taser can actually be feature : /

last cedar
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I want to have a different post code to my neighbours

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But alas...

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Seems there is at least a chance of buying a house now, got some bank stuff sorted this last week, moving bank within 2 months as well.

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I would like to move futher north, to be able to see Norrhern Lights regularly

clear ferry
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I check out my insurance and loans once a year, moved my house loan twice in 10 year already

last cedar
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But jobs etc

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Yeah. You can save a bundle!

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Also btw, raw meat lover, can I dm you about tibber at some point? It seems almost too good to be true πŸ˜‚

clear ferry
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Yaaaaaaas

hushed basalt
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They always leave packages by my front door

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I don't think I've had anything stolen yet

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But especially since covid, I think I've only had 2 items held at the post office out of 50 packages

last cedar
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Ty Atx :)

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We have a locked door to the stairway, thry normally walk up and do a 180 and go back to depot with my packets

clear ferry
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@hushed basalt why would a kangaroo steal a package?

last cedar
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Especially 25kg UPS packets...

hushed basalt
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Our post offices have free parcel lockers

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But I believe some places won't ship to them which is a shame

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A lot of retailer dinosaurs try to promote "click and collect" as a massive convenience

clear ferry
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We have parcel lockers , although I have never seen anyone use them

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Stuff just gets put in the mailbox if small enough

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Or post office if too big

hushed basalt
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But it's not like you can just drive up to a warehouse door and grab your item, you still have to do the whole find a carpark, go through the shopping complex, find someone to help you, wait for them to get it, then do it all in reverse to get out

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May as well just buy things ad hoc or just amazon prime it and not have to do any of that

clear ferry
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We have moved to mail delivery only every 2 days now, mon-wed-fri on odd weeks and tue-thu on even weeks

hushed basalt
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Then the dinosaurs have like "Ships in 5-20 working days"

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That's dispatch, not delivery

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And they wonder why overseas companies are eating their lunch

clear ferry
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Long live AliExpress

hushed basalt
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Mail is pretty useless nowadays

clear ferry
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Death to Amazon

hushed basalt
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Death to Bezos. He's a psychopath

clear ferry
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Quite cold, and humid

ocean mirage
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I didnt know our post boxes were free. I'd rather they just leave stuff outside my door though

clear ferry
ocean mirage
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these things seem to be popular lately

clear ferry
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Hipsters make old stuff popular

last cedar
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That looks nice Atx

ocean mirage
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did I show you my finished strat atx?

ocean mirage
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wanna see it?

clear ferry
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Unsolicited string pics

ocean mirage
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lol

ocean mirage
clear ferry
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I love natural wood finish

ocean mirage
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open original, discord always fucks with colours

clear ferry
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Nitro neck?

ocean mirage
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yeah me too

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nah

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it was just a regular american standard neck and body, but I stripped them, oil and paste wax finish

last cedar
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That is a sweet guitar

ocean mirage
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thanks

last cedar
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I really should play my guitars πŸ˜‚

clear ferry
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I have... A lot of instruments

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But very little time

last cedar
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Have a 2008 ish Ibanez S520 and an older Peavey (cheap) bass

ocean mirage
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nice

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I plan to buy a les paul sometime soon, I just have some gear to sell first

last cedar
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I should have bought thr yamaha 5 string bass I wanted, but it was a lot more money at the time

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Yeah, it is an expensive interest

ocean mirage
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I had a 5 strings bass, traded it in for a nicer 4 string

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i had no used for a 5th string anyway

last cedar
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I need to pick myself up a pedal or two or something, to use headphones, I normally just play without. Neighbours :/

ocean mirage
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I got a strymon iridium just recently, works pretty well. amp/cab sim

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never really liked sims before

last cedar
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I looked at line6 stuff many many years ago and didn't buy anything

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I have a little zoom pedal for my bass

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Must be 15 years old I would guess

clear ferry
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I've always wanted a Yamaha TRB6p

last cedar
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googles

ocean mirage
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too many strings

last cedar
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If I don't buy a house,I could almost afford one πŸ˜‚

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I looked at the rbx375 originally I think

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Monsterous silver thing with huge humbuckers

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I am pretty small, it would have dwarfed me πŸ˜‚

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But I would be perfectly happy with a 4 string tbh :)

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Maybe eventually if I actually start playing again I can treat myself

clear ferry
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I have plans to convert my cort artisan b4 to fretless

last cedar
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That is easy, just grab a screwdriver

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Or a racoon

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Fretless in no time

ocean mirage
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ive been thinking of making an iso cab

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not that I really need one, its something to do though

last cedar
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Would be a nice project!

ocean mirage
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yeah just got a few things to do first

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like build a shed so I have somewhere to make it

last cedar
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Few things? So you can start in about 8 years then πŸ˜‚

ocean mirage
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lol

last cedar
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I am defo guilty of that "just a few things to sort" stuff

ocean mirage
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ive been doing my things though

last cedar
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Oh, you are much better than me then

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I need a certain amount of drive to do stuff otherwise nothing happens

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And I hate it

ocean mirage
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I put off things like HA actually

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but just physical stuff no prob

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i just dont like computers

last cedar
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πŸ˜‚

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They can be very temperamental at times

clear ferry
last cedar
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πŸ˜‚

ocean mirage
last cedar
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Hehe

ocean mirage
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doesnt even work lol

subtle pasture
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Note: I live in a cul de sac, so "speeding" isn't really something you can do...

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Like, there's not enough room to accelerate to the point of speeding before you're crashing into someone else's house...

clear ferry
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Californians and Aussies probably won't understand

ocean mirage
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white grass?

clear ferry
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That would be frost

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-6 and quite humid

ocean mirage
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we get frost silly

clear ferry
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No way

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Between each fire?

ocean mirage
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in a way, yes

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fires every summer, frosts every winter

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most aussies are on the coast though, doubt they get much frost

clear ferry
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@deft pewter my wife caught me shaving in the bathroom again, she says I have issues

ocean mirage
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where else would you shave?

clear ferry
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It's not the location but rather the frequency

deft pewter
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He usually shaves while staring into a neighbour's bedroom window. Wouldn't be too creepy except he shaves his balls.

last cedar
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That is a very accurate representation

last cedar
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Anyone use aftermarket wireless charging pads? Need 3 usb c ones and a micro b. Don't need to be insane currents, has to work in a case.

clear ferry
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I've used a few over the years, for my wife's Samsung, but they were way too picky about placement for actual use

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I still miss my Palm pre and it's wireless charging

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With magnet for alignment

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Great product

last cedar
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Same so far, that is why I wondered if anyone had any that worked πŸ˜‚

clear ferry
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Protip

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Print a stand or placement

last cedar
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Don't eat yellow snow?

clear ferry
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With a 3d printer

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That way it will work without fuzz

last cedar
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So that it aligns properly?

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Good idea

clear ferry
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Yes

last cedar
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I have an idea that everyone leaves their phones in a set place. And magic happens

last cedar
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I found this

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Can anyone confirm any of what they say?

clear ferry
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Never tried any add-on wireless receiver

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The wife had it on the S4 I think, which is 10 years ago and it has been standard since

deft pewter
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Leapo suggested those add-on things. I'm inclined to trust her recommendation.

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They look thin enough to sit inside a case too. Just means a bit of messing around if you ever want to detach it to charge with a cable instead.

hushed basalt
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S5 didn't come with wireless charging standard

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I'm guessing the s4 wouldn't either

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The S5 had terminals in the back though so you could change the back

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And still use USB

clear ferry
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Was it the s6πŸ€”

hushed basalt
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Probably

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I assume you just buy a new phone every 8 months

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I'd never ever get a phone without wireless charging nowadays.

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I recommend getting upright chargers like this

clear ferry
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I swap every two years

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Wireless charging hasn't had much appeal to me since I stopped having on call in the middle of the night

hushed basalt
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It's also a great universal charger too

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My wife uses iphone and I have android

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But we can both use the same chargers

last cedar
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I just want to be able to plonk down at some points around the house and convenience charge

clear ferry
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Wow, apple adhering to a standard

last cedar
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And not wear out the contacts

last cedar
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On the phone

clear ferry
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I've never worn out a plug tbh

last cedar
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It is amazing that their phones are designed to be used by people, they differ so greatly from standards

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Iphone, designed for snakes

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Or racoons

clear ferry
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They did try to patent rounded corners on a mobile phone

last cedar
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My GF has worn her usb contact out. She should be one of those industrial testers

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Because she could destroy a titanium brick

clear ferry
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Do raccoons mate for life?

hushed basalt
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I've broken usb on a few phones

deft pewter
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So the new Apple MagSafe stuff works with Qi chargers?

hushed basalt
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Especially micro usb

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MagSafe?

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Has Apple done another Apple

last cedar
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I am not sure how it is for other racoons, but not for me, no. But so far yes.

deft pewter
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Apple has indeed done another Apple.

clear ferry
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Then you should put a trash ring on it

deft pewter
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But this time their 'innovation' is adding magnets to wireless charging.

deft pewter
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Put a gasket on it.

hushed basalt
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Wireless charging used to have magnets

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So apples done an apple

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Taken something from the past and marketing it as new great innovation

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Ie scissor lift keys

last cedar
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Well they have made apples great though

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Much more red and green since apple started going away from standards

deft pewter
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Make Apple Great Again

last cedar
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It was a proper mediocre fruit before

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But now it is hip and trendy

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All thanks to Mr Jobs

last cedar
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I think he actually invented apples

hushed basalt
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My after market wireless receiver for my s3 had magnetic alignment

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Worked pretty well

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Although upright docks avoid all that kurfuffle

last cedar
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I could potentially make my own stand

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With say, an ikea charger plate. Or some diy plate

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Was thinking just plonk down on bed side table, and use HA to turn off outlet at 95% charge (for that phone)

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And turn on next day at a set time

hushed basalt
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I'd just buy one for $15

last cedar
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I have a single ikea one atm, bought for testing

hushed basalt
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Your phone should manage your charge state

last cedar
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The one with 1 or 3 (bought the 1)

hushed basalt
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Can you set your phone to stop charging at 80% if you don't need the battery

last cedar
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I don't hsve wireless built in. So it will be in thr bottom via one of those plates

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Yes, sort off

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There is a battery saver thing

hushed basalt
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Just do that and let the phone handle it

last cedar
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I do that manually atm

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Charge in evening, let it drain at night and then go work. So like I would need to change my routine

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Sounds like a good idea badtelcotech

cinder heart
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Out of curiosity: Is this discord server the place where HA ppl is hanging out, or this is a "side-thing"? Because I'm not feeling overwhelmed with answers when I raise them in the various channels. If I do the same in the python communities, I'm swamped with answers πŸ˜„ I'm a first time adopter and I'm stuck and I'm wondering where the most effective place is to raise questions.

clear ferry
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@last cedar if you need a stand or alignment printed, tell me and I'll print and ship one 🀣

last cedar
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Ty Atx, very kind of you to offer!

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@cinder heart I haven't been here long, but I use this as more of a resource for ideas, rather than getting definitive answers on specific questions.

clear ferry
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Easy to ship to Sweden

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Worse to ship to Australia

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πŸ₯³

last cedar
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Yes, absolutely!

deft pewter
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@cinder heart There is no shortage of answers here. πŸ€”

cinder heart
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@deft pewter ok perhaps, yet my 6 questions around in various channels remain unanswered. And this is not my first attempt at trying to tackle HA. I'm not trying to sound ungrateful and insatiable, I'm just curious if this is the level of activity to expect in here.

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If I am unable to get the HA concept test up and running with a day's effort, I might have to conclude that this is not my cup of tea, and stick with my old custom built automation system.

deft pewter
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As one of the many people that answers questions here, I can assure you that the vast majority of people get the help they're after.

cinder heart
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What is the channel for discussing OS-level issues of the HassOS? Is it #330990055533576204 or is this only about installing?

deft pewter
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But the helpers here are volunteers and don't know everything. They also sleep, since they're mortals, and have work and personal lives to attend to.

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All OS-level issues go in the installation channels, yes.

cinder heart
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@deft pewter thanks

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@deft pewter which then could indicate that my use case or questions is unusual. Or that the community isn't that big (as you put it, need to eat and sleep). These are precisely the feelers I tried to grasp here in order to determine if I'm going to use HA or find something else πŸ˜„ thanks

clear ferry
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This is probably the biggest home automation platform at the moment

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But if you are advanced enough to be fiddling with anything home made the #330990055533576204 might be limiting you to achieve your goal

deft pewter
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Isn't that big? Yeah... 6k people signed in isn't big πŸ€”

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To be honest... if you're just going to criticise, you finding another solution would be best (for all of us).

odd kindle
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@cinder heart I can only speak for myself but I've gotten very good and mostly quick help in here from various different queustions. People are in general very helpful and knowledable

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@cinder heart and for what it's worth, chat is async, people work/are awake at different times. Don't expect to always get help within a few minutes, people are in here for free and help out for free (mostly, HA do have a few employees but their work descriptions aren't support afaik)

cinder heart
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@deft pewter Pardon if it sounds like criticism, that's not my intention at all. I'm grateful and know how FOSS projects work.

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Yet, its frustrating if one can't even get the trial project off its feet. How much time is reasonable to invest for a concept test?

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@odd kindle thanks

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@clear ferry yep, it's not like I really want to fiddle with hassos, but evidently I have to to get this z-wave thing up and running 😦

jovial marten
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the community pages are good too

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ive found a lot of help in those

cinder heart
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@jovial marten where are those? on facebook?

jovial marten
clear ferry
cinder heart
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@clear ferry ok, I just followed the installation instructions on the HA website and it suggests using HassOS. But I certainly see that the docs for z-wave doesn't describe how to set it up in a hassos environment.

odd kindle
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so uhm... support channel?

cinder heart
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Sorry. Where do I talk about HA in general?

clear ferry
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If you have issues with your installation then the installation channels, if it is with zwave then #zwave-archived if it is with integration then #integrations-archived there is no catch-all

lavish fern
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Morning, all! Just looking into Home Assistant, and I was wondering how easy it is to migrate configuration between different devices?

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I have Synology NAS that I could run HA on, but I’d like a dedicated device if I get more into home automation. Would it be easy to trial a few things on the NAS and then move everything to a dedicated Pi?

cinder heart
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My end objective is this: I plan to run HA in docker in the server room, but have zwave run remote rpi if possible. I'm concept testing HA locally on the rpi with razberry, which where I'm struggling right now. I don't even know if HA is fit for the zwave stuff, nor do I know if HA is suitable overall. And if I'm not capable of testing this without very much effort, HA might not be my thing. I hope that is not unreasonable. I would surely like to run this on my own, but I notice I'm already way off the limb already to what the docs describe.

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Is this general for HA, that there is a lot of tinkering to get things running?

odd kindle
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@cinder heart that's very subjective, Imho HA is next to no tinkering what so ever. It's been running next to perfect for year for me

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That being said, what do you consider tinkering? I run HA in a VM running docker, I use a usb zigbee device map:ed to that docker. It was super easy to map that, but it did require me to assign it first from proxmox into the VM and then into docker.

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But compared to my attempts at doing proper gpu pass through and getting it up and running it was not hard at all

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I'm currently tryign to get influxdb 2 to play nicely with grafana using their old query language. That required the very latest patch version of influxdb and for me to read up on retention policies as well as how I map a bucket to a database, it's far more complicted than HA have ever been

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honestly, getting HA up and running in docker is as simpel as "docker-compose up -d" using their existin docker-compose.yml file

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But noone in here can really say what you consider tinkering

cinder heart
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@odd kindle cool! I cannot have the z-wave controller located on the machine running docker, so they need to be remote from each other. So eventually I need to learn how to setup MQTT to a remote rpi to interface the razberry. As for tinkering, I just meant that I apparently have to do stuff with the installed system to have them integrated with the razberry, even when HA is running on the same device.

odd kindle
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@lavish fern this channel isn't really a support channel. All config files are stored in the same folder so it's fairly simple to move them. I'm not sure if you could do the same with auth tokens and such. I'd ask in on of the support channels, #449717345808547842 or such

lavish fern
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Thanks for response and the advice on how to use the server.

cinder heart
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Yeah, I'm sorry for using the lounge for this. I as a newbie I don't know how and where to raise the overall architectural questions. "What is the best way to solve this problem"-type.

calm crow
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How much of a problem would it be for Alexa to connect to my Lightbulbs using Hub

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When i've already got ZHA connecting to it too

clear ferry
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Very easy

deft pewter
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So. Many. Support. Questions.

fervent sorrel
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Thanks

deft pewter
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Someone should put something in the topic about not asking support questions in here.

cinder heart
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Plea from newbie: Make a channel for overall/high-level questions. It's difficult to know how to partition your questions into segments when you don't know if the overall fundamental assumptions is wrong or not. edit I arrived here because the docs are too sparse and I'm stuck digging on my own. I would prefer on my own thou.

clever mortar
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I'll add that to the topic though

cinder heart
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@clever mortar perfect, thanks

velvet horizonBOT
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There's no support for Home Assistant here - please look at the other channels for that. If you can't work out which is relevant, start in #general-archived

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clever mortar
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☝️ There you go

calm crow
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My question isn't really support, right? πŸ˜„

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Just making some general chit-chat

clever mortar
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And asking for support πŸ˜‰

clever mortar
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I'm sorry, there isn't enough help left available in this lifetime

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Next lifetime isn't looking good either

calm crow
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haha

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Right okay

sleek scarab
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how come i cant find raspbian anywherE?

clever mortar
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Because it was renamed months ago?

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Or maybe you lost it down the back of the sofa?

sleek scarab
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Probably not

clever mortar
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Well, if you couldn't find it with Google, that's where I'd look

sleek scarab
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ill just download raspberry pi os lite instead

clever mortar
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instead πŸ€”

boreal pewter
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Raspberry πŸ€”

sleek scarab
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oh turns out they are both the same thing

forest edge
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lol

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they had a few names it's easy to lose track

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like Hassio..

clever mortar
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Yeah, but you Google it you get Raspberry Pi OS - and the first words on the Wikipedia entry tell you all about it

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That said...

forest edge
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reading.. pssh.. so 1990's

rancid wharf
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Anyone find killer deals on electronics this weekend? Amazon had/has Gosund switches for less than 10/pc. My OCS disease required less expensive devices because they have to match --- and I'm still upset I cannot find the ivory toggle that I'd like to have so I will be ordering a slug of outlets soon too

odd kindle
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Gotta say I'm liking Influxdb 2

clear ferry
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Influxer dber ?

deft pewter
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2er!

hushed basalt
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InfluxcapacitorDocBrown

hushed basalt
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Illuminati confirmed

calm crow
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Just saw on reddit lidl (uk) zigbee devices soon

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One of them is a 4 way gang

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Exciting!

storm canyon
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Hello All

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what is the best way to install Home Assistant on a Windows PC that will be my always on PC?

subtle pasture
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Assuming Windows Server Core? Install the WSL 2.0 and then fire HomeAssistant up as a Docker container

storm canyon
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Windows 10 Pro but I have just enabled WSL 2

subtle pasture
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If you want it to be always-on, Windows 10 Pro isn't a great choice

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Server Core requires the fewest updates and reboots

storm canyon
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I am using what I have at the moment

subtle pasture
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Server Core is free. lol

storm canyon
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oh

subtle pasture
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Microsoft Hyper-V Server 2019, totally free

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You could also run Linux on the box

storm canyon
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True I bought the system based on a video from the Hook Up where Rob uses a Windows 10 system with 32 Gig of RAM and I7 Core

obsidian ibex
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I will say there’s a quick fix to disable the auto reboot when your evaluation period expires

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If u were preferring windows server

subtle pasture
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@obsidian ibex I mean, I figured just use Hyper-V server since it's free (no trial) and can run both Windows and Linux docker containers

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And it's a Server Core release, so you gain the benefit of lower resource usage (no GUI), fewer updates, and fewer reboots

obsidian ibex
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Nice, makes sense, a lot of people arn’t smart enough to figure that out though, Windows Server is ez mode πŸ˜‚

storm canyon
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I am an Network/Security engineer but can't say I am super strong on server side of things

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Running HA on a Raspberry Pi that boots off of a 500Gig SSD Drive

subtle pasture
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That's basically what I'm doing right now. Pi 3B with a 120GB SATA SSD

storm canyon
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Since I am moving in to new home I want to also use the system for a security system setup

subtle pasture
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I could run HA out of a VM on my virtualization cluster, but I kinda wanted dedicated hardware for it

storm canyon
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and going to try out Blue Iris but that requires a windows machine

subtle pasture
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Ah, yeah, Blu Iris. That'll do it

storm canyon
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Robs video shows him using VirtualBox to install Home Assistant

subtle pasture
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Yeah, you can run HomeAssistant on VirtualBox, Hyper-V, or ESXi

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Runs great on ESXi

storm canyon
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So you guys sound like you are VM smart, so on my current other windows machine I am running ubuntu WSL

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and it is working fine

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I don't have hyper-v enabled

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when would I want to enable hyper v?

obsidian ibex
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@subtle pasture hows the 3B perform? I’ve a 3B+ running just pihole/pivpn but I plan to wipe it, add an SSD, HA/adguard etc. I’m hoping to get away with not buying a Pi4 lol

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WSL lacks full linux functionality

subtle pasture
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Seems fine, especially booting from SSD on a recent version of HomeAssistant

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@obsidian ibex Not true in Server 2019 (or a recent version of Windows 10). WSL 2.0 includes the complete Linux kernel

storm canyon
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yeah I am just using it to learn more about linux anyway

obsidian ibex
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Nice! What’s the average reboot time? I read someone saying 5-6mins.

I still ran into headaches with 2019, can’t remember why.

storm canyon
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So if I were to use windows 10 and installed docker desktop, I could then use the IOTstack process to install Home Assistant and Mosquitto and influxDB and Grafana etc..... ?

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in Docker containers

obsidian ibex
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Do u plan to use the machine for anything else?

storm canyon
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It will be my always on machine. I will also run my security systems through it with Blue Iris and such

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And integrate all them with Home Assistant

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It is not worst machine on planet, it is Core i7, 32 Gig RAM and 1 TB SSD Drive

obsidian ibex
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@subtle pasture β€˜s suggestion is probs best, Windows 10/server just suck for longterm

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You’ll be scheduling daily reboots just to keep the thing working

storm canyon
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@subtle pasture can you point me to where to find the free server core files?

subtle pasture
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@obsidian ibex Nah, daily reboots aren't required, but non-server (or not LTSC builds) of Windows aren't suitable for server use where uptime is required

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I work an at MSP, we manage primarily Windows servers (over 300 of them), they'll generally stay up forever if updates are deferred

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It's in their "evaluation" center, but it's not an evaluation copy

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"Unlimited"

obsidian ibex
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I’ve been a windows sysadmin for 10+ years, they most certainly do not usually stay up/functional without regular reboots, completely depends on the application. A Linux/Unix box will commonly remain up for months at a time.

subtle pasture
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Weird, guess we just know what we're doing πŸ˜›

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It's usually the Linux machines we have trouble with

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Individual versions of Linux have pretty short support lifecycles compared to Windows, so we constantly need to do ground-up reinstalls on those things

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I've started to push for RedHad / CentOS where I can, since it has a 10-year lifecycle. Way fewer headaches with that.

hushed basalt
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Are you using any sort of config management for the linux boxes

blazing parrot
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I'm using an only Intel NUC, running HA inside of a small Docker container. deCONZ in another container, zwave2mqtt in another, mosquitto in another, and so on. The box isn't breathing hard. Lots of room for growth.

obsidian ibex
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@subtle pasture More likely just luck! I’d guess they’re either running standard Windows roles, or well made apps(rare lol.) 300 isn’t a lot, our small team used to manage double that on one contract, managed 1000’s between us. Wish I’d went down the Linux sysadmin route instead, might still transfer at some point

blazing parrot
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Tasks: 189 total,   1 running, 188 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu0  :  3.9 us,  1.0 sy,  0.0 ni, 92.2 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  2.9 si,  0.0 st
%Cpu1  :  5.8 us,  1.9 sy,  1.0 ni, 89.4 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  1.9 si,  0.0 st
%Cpu2  : 11.9 us,  0.0 sy,  0.0 ni, 88.1 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si,  0.0 st
%Cpu3  : 12.9 us,  3.0 sy,  0.0 ni, 82.2 id,  0.0 wa,  0.0 hi,  2.0 si,  0.0 st
KiB Mem : 32710704 total, 25810600 free,  1525316 used,  5374788 buff/cache
KiB Swap:  8388604 total,  8378108 free,    10496 used. 30768564 avail Mem```
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That's my NUC

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I was a linux sysadmin for most of my career before I jumped into management so I might have an advantage in getting the most out of this box. And there really is a good bit of stuff running on it.

vague vale
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Anyone have a samsung smart TV

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When i add it I dont get entities so I really can't do anything with it. Which is weird

brazen fable
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@obsidian ibex uh my windows server goes 2-3 months at a time

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it might go longer if I wasn't tinkering with it sometimes

obsidian ibex
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That’s decent but it’s also a single case example

hushed basalt
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I wouldn't get too fanatical about uptimes

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Especially for maintenance rather than unplanned outages

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Overall availability is a far more valuable metric than time since last boot

brazen fable
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I have several windows servers at work too and it's the same story

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People like to knock on it but Windows server is pretty reliable

hushed basalt
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Vanity metricsΒ are things you can measure that don't matter. They're easily changed or manipulated, and they don't bear a direct correlation with numbers that speak to business success.

errant pond
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anybody using IOT Link?

green inlet
errant pond
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mybad

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thanks

green inlet
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All good, just read the channel topics πŸ˜‰

subtle pasture
blazing parrot
# hushed basalt I wouldn't get too fanatical about uptimes

yep... you can see in my screen cap my own linux machine has a day of uptime. That's because yesterday I was running package maintenance & rebooted. Good hygiene is important, though I have faith I could (if I were inclined) leave this running for a year+ with no reboots if I wanted to go for a walk around the world or something and forget about my responsibilities for awhile.

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my only real regrets with this setup right now is the rate limiting on Docker Hub

subtle pasture
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And it's our job to keep them running well, not luck 🀣

obsidian ibex
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Such a silly discussion smh

subtle pasture
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I think there are 8 Linux servers total in our client base

hushed basalt
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Ansible is okay

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It has it's problems though

subtle pasture
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500 error while trying to get to their homepage

tidal bronze
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Up now

subtle pasture
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Noticed because Plex ate shit when I tried to let it update itself. lol

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This is the file Plex itself pulled while trying to update

tidal bronze
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Got the 500 error when pulling an update as well. Was down for like 2 minutes

subtle pasture
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Yeah, well, now Plex is hosed. Super...

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Gotta love updating during the wrong 2 minutes

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Looks like they're still down / having issues

brazen fable
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you should still be able to reach your server locally

subtle pasture
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Nope, lol

brazen fable
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Assuming you self host like a normal person

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πŸ˜„

subtle pasture
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I'm self-hosted, but it won't let me in

brazen fable
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That's wierd

subtle pasture
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I get the above error when visiting the Plex server's IP:Port

brazen fable
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Mine lets me in on both direct IP and my home DNS

subtle pasture
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Won't let me in unless I remote into the plex server itself and connect from localhost

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THEN I can get in

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Oh... or not...

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"unable to connect to plex.tv at this time"

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Aight, can't even log in locally...

brazen fable
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Try letting it sit for a minute. It took mine a minute to load

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Then it loaded right up

storm summit
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mine is spinning so far.

brazen fable
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Do you have authentication on your local network on?

storm summit
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ahh! Got in. but it only had my user to select. usually there are more.

brazen fable
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yeah any add on users i don't think would be available

storm summit
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oh. nm. dead again

subtle pasture
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"Plex is not reachable - Make sure your server has an internet connection"

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Yeah, can't get in at all...

storm summit
subtle pasture
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Plex has some seriously shitty behavior when it can't reach the cloud πŸ˜•

brazen fable
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Because I know for a fact you can use it without internet. I've done it a few times this year during random outages

storm summit
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dashboard loaded. finally.

subtle pasture
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@brazen fable Yeah, you can use it without internet if you log out of plex.tv...

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But I need to get in to log out. lol

storm summit
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seems to be hit and miss

subtle pasture
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Looks like it's because I enabled Plex Home

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Once that's on, you NEED the cloud connection for auth

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Fun...

storm summit
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how do you diable it

subtle pasture
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I mean, my use case requires it

brazen fable
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For what?

subtle pasture
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All the people in my Plex Home?

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If I leave the Home, I cut off access to everyone but me. lol

brazen fable
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Also I'm logged into plex home

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so that ain't it

subtle pasture
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Welp, dunno what to tell you, I can't get in even by being on the desktop on the Plex server itself, connecting to localhost:port

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It just tells me to wait for plex.tv to be up

brazen fable
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I just added my home's subnet accessible without auth

subtle pasture
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That's the default

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Plex automatically white-lists the entire /24 where it's installed

hushed basalt
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I tried to move plex from a Linux install to docker and it didn't work last week

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I had to set it up manually again, not a huge deal but now it's not using the x-real-ip header properly for local viewing

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So it tries to use remote transcoding even though I'm inside the network

forest edge
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Plex is trash and you people expect good stuff? /laff

brazen fable
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Plex is pretty great tbh

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It does what I need it to do 99.9% of the time and it's very hands off

subtle pasture
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Yeah, literally the only issue I ever have with Plex is the occasional auth problems during outages

brazen fable
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It's honestly one of my most reliable home systems I run

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Lol

subtle pasture
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However, that's a pretty big issue when it does happen

brazen fable
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I'd check your Auth settings. I don't think the whole subnet is whitelisted by default

subtle pasture
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It is, I checked

brazen fable
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But you can only do that whole you're online

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Lol

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Hmm. Wierd.

subtle pasture
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Not true, it's in the registry

brazen fable
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I've never really had issues during outages

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It just ran a little slower checking for internet Auth first

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But it always ran

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Still does

subtle pasture
forest edge
brazen fable
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Plex basically never breaks for me

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I've run plex for nearly a decade and I can probably count on one hand the issues I've had with it

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Probably longer than a decade by now tbh

subtle pasture
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That's great, but I'm locked out. lol

brazen fable
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That being said, always have a backup

subtle pasture
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Can't even get in from localhost. It hardline requires plex.tv for logins

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I suppose the backup would be a second Plex server that's not signed in to Plex.tv

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Which will always work offline

forest edge
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or just use a real media management software lol

subtle pasture
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Plex is real media management software?

forest edge
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Plex is one deal away from becoming an amazon product

subtle pasture
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Too bad nothing else seems to work very well...

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Even Kodi works best with a Plex server backing it.

forest edge
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you realize plex is literally built off kodi/xmbc right?

subtle pasture
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It was, originally

brazen fable
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I even just signed in with my phone browser

forest edge
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pretty sure most of it still is lol

brazen fable
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On wifi

subtle pasture
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They've ditched most of the original codebase

brazen fable
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Kodi is pretty dogshit

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Lol

forest edge
brazen fable
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It's buggy and hacked together

subtle pasture
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Except I like Plex better than Kodi... Kodi still doesn't have a proper client/server infrastructure unless you use Plex as a backend for it

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lol

forest edge
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Kodi is for people who know wtf they are doing lol

subtle pasture
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Lemme know when Kodi splits the backend from the frontend, maybe I'll take another look

brazen fable
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Kodi is dogshit

forest edge
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never had a single issue in the 20 some odd years i been running it

brazen fable
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I can run plex on virtually anything. Including on my android auto head unit

subtle pasture
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My biggest issue with Kodi: No centralized management

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Every instance it its own stand-alone index of content

forest edge
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there are backends for kodi

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you can evven make a kodi instance a backend

subtle pasture
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You can try and get multiple Kodi instances to share a single media database, but that requires setting up a database server from scratch

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Or... just connect Kodi to Plex, then you get your fancy plugin-loaded frontend and an easy to manage backend

forest edge
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clicking export seems easy enough for me lol

brazen fable
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Not to mention plex has fantastic tagging software for media management

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Literally 0 touch and it loads the metadata

subtle pasture
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Wouldn't you have to export / import after every single new media addition? Even more often if you want watched status to stay in sync

forest edge
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Plex is dogshit

brazen fable
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Oh yeah, media sync too

forest edge
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like i said, one deal away from becoming an amazon product lol

brazen fable
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Having content automatically sync to my mobile devices based on what's on watched is an amazing feature

forest edge
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soon you'll be dealing with ad injection

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on local content

brazen fable
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Everything is one deal away from an Amazon product

subtle pasture
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@forest edge I doubt it, lol

brazen fable
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Let's stop pretending everything doesn't have its price

forest edge
subtle pasture
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It won't happen

brazen fable
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Amazon is rich enough to buy anything

subtle pasture
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if it does, someone'll fork Plex and off it goes...

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Someone actually still maintains the XBMC-based version of the Plex frontend

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if you want to run that

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Not official, but it's up on github and is maintained to still connect to modern Plex servers

forest edge
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you will be watching your wedding video with ad breaks about hemorrhoid cream every 10 minutes

subtle pasture
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Won't happen

brazen fable
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Uh huh

subtle pasture
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Amazon isn't stupid enough to kill their own products like that...

forest edge
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lol noone would fork plex

subtle pasture
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Why would nobody fork Plex?

forest edge
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why would you

brazen fable
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It's literally the king of the market

subtle pasture
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@forest edge I told you why...

brazen fable
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Like it's not even a close comparison

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The only people that use kodi in 2020 are broke pirates

storm summit
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how could you fork plex? its not open source.

subtle pasture
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In a hypothetical future where Amazon buys Plex out and injects ads into local content, you bet your ass someone will fork it, rebrand it, and NOT do that with their version

brazen fable
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There's an open source version

forest edge
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she was refering to the old plex that was still based off xmbc

storm summit
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of plex? where?

subtle pasture
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@forest edge I wasn't

forest edge
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isnt that what you said?

brazen fable
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I don't think it's as polished as real plex

storm summit
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so its not plex?

subtle pasture
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No? I mentioned the old frontend that's still on life support, but we're talking about Plex Media Server here

forest edge
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I said why would anyone fork plex, you said you already said why and talked about some old version fo plex

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so πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

subtle pasture
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I did not

storm summit
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why are you talk about forking it if its not forkable?

subtle pasture
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I even re-explained it...

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In a hypothetical future where Amazon buys Plex out and injects ads into local content, you bet your ass someone will fork it, rebrand it, and NOT do that with their version

storm summit
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no

subtle pasture
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@storm summit It's GPLv2, should be forkable

storm summit
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because its not forkable. lol

forest edge
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plus noone forks trash

storm summit
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you want the player?

subtle pasture
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I talked about that ages ago, but that's unrelated to a fork of Plex Media Server

forest edge
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switch to Kodi, learn Kodi and you will feel like you switch from Hubitat to Home Assistant

subtle pasture
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I've tried Kodi, never sticks

forest edge
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Kodi learning curve for more advanced stuff can be alittle steep in some areas

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but there is nothing you cannot do in Kodi that you can in Plex.. aside from wait for ad injection

subtle pasture
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And reading up on it now... the situation still hasn't improved. Still requires building a database server and connecting all instances to it manually

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Not going to bother with Kodi until the client/server infrastructure isn't a huge kludge

forest edge
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and you can't lock yourself out because someone can't connect to some garbage server online lol

subtle pasture
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@forest edge I got in, actually

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ServerIP:Port always works, it didn't like "localhost" being in the address bar

forest edge
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you just gotta look harder, my setup is flawless and wasn't some elaborate thing you keep ranting about

subtle pasture
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It's not that elaborate if you just use plex...

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Trying to replicate Plex's functionality on Kodi appears to still require a MySQL server

forest edge
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I just use a nas and all of my kodiclients pull everything from that

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so πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

subtle pasture
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Yeah, but are you centralizing the media database?

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Otherwise every single endpoint has to re-scrape everything, and watched status doesn't sync

forest edge
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on the nas, that's what all my clients do lol

subtle pasture
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So you did set up a MySQL database?

forest edge
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nope

subtle pasture
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Aight, so you re-scrape everything on every individual client...

forest edge
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nope

subtle pasture
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So you set up a database?

brazen fable
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It's either one or the other buddy

forest edge
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well if you call a folder with an xml and some images a database.. sure..

brazen fable
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Also, tracking play lists, watched items, being able to cross sync, etc

subtle pasture
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He's storing flatfiles in every single directory, lol

forest edge
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all of that

brazen fable
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Kodi has like 10% of the feature set of plex

subtle pasture
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THat has to be really, really slow re-scanning everything when you add a new Kodi client...

brazen fable
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It would probably choke reading my library

stone valve
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Hello. Has anyone have issues with HA not completing startup due to it failing to set up the cloud component? I moved and when I started HA back up at the new house it started giving me issues. Pulling my hair out trying to figure it out. I can move this to a different thread if it's more appropriate for this. Thanks!

forest edge
brazen fable
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Not a support channel @stone valve

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Try uh..

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Where tediore when you need him

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He's the channel master

subtle pasture
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@forest edge It took hours for Kodi to scrape my library last time I tried it, and that was when my library was much, much smaller...

brazen fable
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Try front end?

stone valve
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Gotcha. Thanks.

forest edge
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@subtle pasture you did something wrong

subtle pasture
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And it left flatfiles everywhere, which had to be cleaned up when I ditched it. lol

forest edge
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like i said learn kodi

subtle pasture
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I'd much rather use a MySQL database

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But then, I'd much rather just use Plex

brazen fable
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Right. Plex does its job

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It does it well.

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And it does it better than everyone else

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And it's mostly free

forest edge
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like a turd rolling down a hill

brazen fable
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Uh huh

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Sounds like you're just another one of the cheap asses around here

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Lul

forest edge
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I mean I can't argue I am a cheap ass..but that has nothing to do with plex being shit lol

brazen fable
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I don't have to tinker with plex at all. 0. It just works.

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You haven't listed a single legitimate grievance

subtle pasture
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Kodi is the one that still doesn't have a client/server architecture, lol

last dirge
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dat plex pass doe

brazen fable
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It works fantastically well

forest edge
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this whole convo is a list on it';s own lol

brazen fable
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I bought lifetime plex pass

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Except it's not

last dirge
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same

forest edge
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sorry for your loss

brazen fable
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All it is - is you repeating that you dislike plex

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Which hey, that's cool. You do you

forest edge
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thx

brazen fable
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But your personal opinion means shit

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Plex has been one of the best installs Ive ever made. Because it works

subtle pasture
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This ^

brazen fable
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The only reason I'm using home Assistant is because there's nothing else like it

forest edge
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sounds like your missing out on a whole world of cool stuff

brazen fable
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And even HA is unreliable for my tastes

subtle pasture
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Like I said, i tried Kodi, and ditched it

brazen fable
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But I deal with it because it's the best there is

subtle pasture
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After experiencing both, I don't feel like I'm missing out

forest edge
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well some software is just too advanced for some people

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i get it

brazen fable
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Lol?

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No.

forest edge
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it's cool i understand

subtle pasture
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No, I can set up a MySQL server just fine, but it's not what I want

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Also, it still requires that one of the Kodi frontends do the scraping, so you have a frontend that has to be running 24x7 somewhere...

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Kodi just feels jank

brazen fable
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Imagine what kind of shit lord script kiddie you'd have to be to think kodi is even remotely near advanced

forest edge
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@subtle pasture you just need to learn kodi lol

subtle pasture
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I did... I didn't like it

forest edge
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i know

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it's complex

brazen fable
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No it's not. It's just bad.

subtle pasture
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I don't want a jank setup where I have to manually configure every single client to connect to a MySQL database, and that requires a GUI frontend to be running in order to scrape media

brazen fable
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There's a reason plex hard won the war.

subtle pasture
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it's terrible

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Plex just does the job better

forest edge
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war?

brazen fable
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Imagine having to retune a config file to unwind and watch some star trek after work

subtle pasture
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And we haven't even started discussing remote access yet

brazen fable
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Lululul

forest edge
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there was a war?

hushed basalt
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Kodi is not a client/server arch

brazen fable
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That's what we keep trying to tell him

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They're not comparable products

hushed basalt
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Kodi is more like running outlook on your desktop vs Gmail

forest edge
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I dunno about that

hushed basalt
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Yes you can jank around to make it sync across clients

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But why would you

brazen fable
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Exactly

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Just use plex

forest edge
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I mean I guess, but outlook? using outlook as a comparison? 🀒

brazen fable
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Lmao

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Modern outlook is pretty good

last dirge
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and you have to have a lot of processing power at each client if transcoding is needed

subtle pasture
forest edge
brazen fable
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Although I prefer emclient or mailbird

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Mailbird has come a long way

subtle pasture
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@last dirge Oh yikes, does Kodi even handle remote transcoding?

forest edge
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@last dirge actually there is a backend for that

last dirge
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how can it?

subtle pasture
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Yikes

forest edge
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I don't use transcoding tho

subtle pasture
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Plex literally keeps my old Roku 3 alive because it can transcode server-side.

last dirge
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plex server runs big hardware, clients are dumb

subtle pasture
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The Roku can't play anything h.265 on its own

brazen fable
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Which is the right way to go when you're serving media

last dirge
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and I don't have to worry about whatever Sonarr downloads to avoid transcoding issues

brazen fable
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Especially 4k media

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@last dirge you mean Medusa

last dirge
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dude, I'm too old for this shit

brazen fable
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πŸ˜‹

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Lmao

last dirge
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someone was ragging on me for still using sab

subtle pasture
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I totally forgot about transcoding because Plex just handles it automatically. That's a HUGE point

brazen fable
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I bet I'm older

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Come at me

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I don't really transcode on plex much

forest edge
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you can transcode with Kodi.. if that's what your about to divve into lol

brazen fable
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Except to mobile devices

subtle pasture
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@forest edge You can have a remote server transcode in real-time for a weak Kodi client?

forest edge
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as i stated above. there is NOTHING plex can do that you cannot do with Kodi

subtle pasture
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I'm digging through the wiki now, but I'm not seeing it

brazen fable
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Yes there is

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It's called being functional.

brazen fable
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🀣

subtle pasture
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But Kodi has no server component, so.. how?

forest edge
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you would have to look up the git.. people made all kinds of transcoding things for Kodi

subtle pasture
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Kodi does not transcode on any supported platform. It always plays the original quality

forest edge
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I don't use transcoding

subtle pasture
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There's my answer...

brazen fable
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Haha

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@subtle pasture you beat me to it

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Scoundrel

subtle pasture
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I told ya' I was digging for it, because that's a huge gap in its feature set...

forest edge
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you do it through the backend..

brazen fable
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One of many gaps

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Yeah uh huh

forest edge
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I keep saying there are backends for kodi lol

brazen fable
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You know more than the guy who actually programs kodi

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Uh huh

forest edge
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dude.. remove the stick l;ol

subtle pasture
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The only thing I see coming up for remote-transcoding for Kodi is... using Plex as a server for Kodi

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Which is fine, I mentioned that as a solution a while back

forest edge
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I saw it once, i'll look for it after a bit

subtle pasture
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Use the Kodi frontend with the Plex backend

forest edge
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was helping someone else get something set up a few years ago

subtle pasture
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There's even an official Plex plugin for Kodi to integrate the two

brazen fable
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Of course there is

subtle pasture
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So you can have your cake and eat it too, if you REALLY like the Kodi frontend

brazen fable
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Because plex is awesome

last dirge
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"helping someone get something set up"

brazen fable
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Plex has plug-ins and compatibility with everything

last dirge
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"just click browse and find the folder where Plex can find your stuff"

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"that's it?"

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"pretty much"

brazen fable
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I have plex on my fucking cars head unit

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It's nutty

last dirge
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I have Netflix

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and YouTube

subtle pasture
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Yup, Plex has Android Auto integration

last dirge
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and Hulu

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but no Plex, yet

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maybe I should tweet that at Elon

brazen fable
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Oh speaking of cars

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Any of you knowledgeable on car audio?

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Specifically brands and such?

last dirge
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I can give you 15 year old knowledge πŸ™‚

brazen fable
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Because the salesmen keep trying to sell me 3k audio systems

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And I'm not having it

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Lmao

last dirge
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I installed it professionally for 5 years

brazen fable
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I'll spend half that happily

last dirge
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personally for a few years before that

forest edge
brazen fable
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What's a penny?

subtle pasture
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@brazen fable Which part of your system are you upgrading?

brazen fable
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All of it

last dirge
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what in?

brazen fable
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Except the head unit

subtle pasture
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Head unit, amp and speakers? Dayum

brazen fable
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2020 accord

subtle pasture
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Yeah, you could easily spend $3k

brazen fable
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8 speakers and a sub / amp

forest edge
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Blaupunkt

last dirge
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but you're leaving the Honda head unit in?

brazen fable
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Yeah

last dirge
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Blaupunkt sucks a D

subtle pasture
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I kinda want to upgrade my head unit, but at the same time... my phone works fine synced with the current one over bluetooth in its dashboard-mounted charging cradle

brazen fable
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I got quoted 2800 for a full alpine system

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Which is no doubt great gear

last dirge
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which Alpine?

brazen fable
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But I don't need that much power

last dirge
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X, S, R?

brazen fable
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R series

last dirge
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that's why

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that shit's expensive

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but it's really good

brazen fable
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Yep

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I just want something better than I have now

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I love Honda

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But their audio blows

subtle pasture
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That cat on the bottom looks a lot like my cat...

brazen fable
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Stop feeding it

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Abuser

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:(

hushed basalt
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Found $50 on the street today :/

green inlet
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Well that was a waste of 15 minutes of my life πŸ˜‰

subtle pasture
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@brazen fable We have him on a diet. He's somehow managing to maintain 19 lbs even with the caloric restriction...

last cedar
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Big cats have more belly to rub. So it is really win win

hearty depot
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Christmais shopping! -_- my poor wallet xD
someone can recommend an Blender/ High power(?) Food Processors to me

light trout
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rent a goat

clear ferry
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Kenwood 4 lyfe

hearty depot
clear ferry
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Do it and blend SD cards, raspberry pis and odroids

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Throw in a few tags for flavour

hearty depot
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RFID adds spice

deft pewter
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But if you blend all the Pi's, we'll only have about 5% of the HA users left.

clear ferry
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That's optimistic

deft pewter
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2%?

last cedar
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As many as 2%?

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wow