I really only stopped using it because Philips sold the rights to Ambx to Madcatz, who never updated the divers again...
#the-water-cooler
orchid rose
That's resolution, not area though
We all have to make compromises, I know I do. But I don't think anyone would choose ambilight over a bigger screen
deft pewter
777 inches by 777 inches? That's some weird ass pixel density.
deft pewter
I'm just messing. I'm used to seeing/hearing 'square inches'.
deft pewter
That's a lot of girth
orchid rose
That's a lot smaller than my 92" projector screen which honestly is at least 30" too small
clear ferry
Triple 24, I've had that for 15 years, had two more screens at some point
Miss them now
subtle pasture
Yeah, I'm not about to replace my monitors with a projector...
orchid rose
I'm not trying to claim that Leapo
light trout
Why not?
subtle pasture
@light trout Because I wouldn't be able to see shit 75% of the time due to light pollution
light trout
Turn off the light
deft pewter
Blackout curtains
orchid rose
I thought about going 3xU2412M actually, but in the end ended up with a 21:9 display mostly because of 144Hz vs 60Hz and I'm pretty happy with it
subtle pasture
I'm not reconfiguring the house for an absurd display technology, lol
deft pewter
Projectors seem neat for movies but not for desk equipment.
light trout
Sounds like a fun project 😄
clear ferry
@deft pewter still remember when shitkids would bring their 32" LCDs to LAN parties
orchid rose
Projectors are awful for desk environment. Even news and stuff are annoying
clear ferry
As a single screen
deft pewter
Split screen gaming? 🤢
clear ferry
Not even
subtle pasture
Triple-screen gaming > Dual-screen gaming
It's really hard to play anything with a split right down the middle
clear ferry
I started with triple screen in 2001 I think
orchid rose
Dual screens are great for work stuff though
for gaming triple is just so much better
clear ferry
Triple or quad is great for work
orchid rose
Yeah but you can do stuff with two screens just fine as well
with gaming you'll have the split right in the middle which makes it painful
scenic radish
Yeah I get by just fine with dual monitors for work
subtle pasture
I have triple-1080p screens at work, and it's such a huge downgrade from triple-1200p...
orchid rose
16:10 is pretty good for non-entertainment stuff
subtle pasture
I mean, you always have the option of running 1920x1080 on a 1200p panel
orchid rose
Sure but black bars are worse than black borders
subtle pasture
You just get letterboxing, but no loss of resolution vs. the original 1080p picture
I'd rather have black bars for 1080p content than a smaller monitor ALWAYS
orchid rose
I'll disagree on that
subtle pasture
Why wouldn't you want an extra 120 vertical pixels? lol
orchid rose
If I'm not using it? Because it actually isn't black
subtle pasture
Also, hot take: 16:10 was designed to minimize black bars
brazen root
Any SQL-gurus here? I have a quick question.
I have a Table with MenuItems and MenuCalories. I want to select every row where MenuItems contains the word "cheese", and insert them in the table again with MenuCalories * 1.5
subtle pasture
16:10 is an average of all common TV and film aspect ratios, designed to produce the smallest black bars for all of them
orchid rose
Now that's a very hot take. I know where you're going with it but nowadays it's not really the case
deft pewter
21:9 here... there's a lot of movies produced in that aspect ratio now.
And for the ones that aren't... black bars aren't a big deal.
I can always put the show to one side and still have room for a browser.
subtle pasture
Yeah, I don't mind the black bars, they're unavoidable
orchid rose
They are avoidable in most scenarios on a PC
subtle pasture
You're not going to get 100% of content in the exact aspect ratio of your display
deft pewter
I'd rather have vertical letterboxing over horizontal. Horizontal stops you using the space for anything else.
Imagine watching a 21:9 movie on a 4:3 🤣
subtle pasture
@deft pewter I disagree, it's great running 16:9 content on a 16:10 monitor
I get full access to the taskbar and titlebar without scaling or overlapping the picture
deft pewter
But no other applications on screen
subtle pasture
I do a lot of remote desktop, so factor that in
deft pewter
Haha, yes. I love sharing my screen with my team... they have to squint to see anything.
subtle pasture
Remoting into a machine with a 16:9 monitor is great with a 16:10 monitor
orchid rose
It depends on what you do/consume
subtle pasture
Remoting into a machine with a 16:9 monitor is painful with a 16:9 monitor
orchid rose
Games are great at 21:9 as are most movies. Sports are pretty awful and for desktop use you'll want to use a split screen to get the most out of it
deft pewter
It depends on what you do/consume
Developer. I have my IDE taking up two thirds (with terminals and stuff taking up some of that room) and comms/documentation taking up the remaining third.
orchid rose
On 16:10 it's the opposite. All software is pretty damn great full screen 16:9 stuff works but games and movies are meh at best
deft pewter
1440 pixels isn't enough vertical? 😄
subtle pasture
I've had no issues with games or movies on 16:10?
orchid rose
All I can say is that I wouldn't go back to the 16:10 for those
subtle pasture
Most games support 1920x1200 without issue, and 1920x1080 is always an option (with no scaling)
orchid rose
They do, but the wider aspect ratio is massively helpful
orchid rose
That's your wider aspect ratio then. I thought about that too but 60Hz felt a little low for 2020
subtle pasture
Yeah, I keep waiting for a decent ultrawide I could use as a replacement
This is about the closest I've found: https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Legion-Y44w-10-DWUXGA-Monitor/dp/B0833689WT
orchid rose
DWUXGA 👀
subtle pasture
e'yup, it's 3840x1200 (dual 1920x1200)
orchid rose
1440p might be worth it nowadays for gaming though
subtle pasture
I've had trouble finding a comparable 1440p ultrawide
orchid rose
or even 2160p if you have unlimited budget
deft pewter
Not as big as that Lenovo but I've been impressed with this: https://www.philips.co.uk/c-p/346P1CRH_01/brilliance-curved-ultrawide-lcd-monitor-with-usb-c
deft pewter
Although I bought it for the built-in KVM more than the other features.
Tiny? I still have to turn my head :/
orchid rose
tiny head
deft pewter
🤏
subtle pasture
The Lenovo is exactly the size of two of my monitors put together
I could actually tile two of my existing monitors above the Lenovo, and everything would line up if not for the bezels
orchid rose
It's not yuge. A 30" 16:9 or so has the same area iirc
I love it though, but the curve kinda sucks on desktop use
subtle pasture
Yeah, I don't like the curve either
orchid rose
It's great for games and movies, it really surprised me
subtle pasture
"Remember how we tried so hard to make flat-tube CRT monitors to improve screen geometry? Well fuck all that! Back to curved glass!"
orchid rose
Just give me the movement clarity of a CRT and I promise I won't complain
subtle pasture
That depends on the speed of the phosphor 👀
orchid rose
Not just that
subtle pasture
Some CRTs used really slow phosphor, and would ghost like a bitch
orchid rose
There's the sample and hold problem as well
Even an oled won't be as good as a CRT unless you start flickering it
subtle pasture
Heh, Samsung made a DWUXGA monitor as well
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LC43J890DKNXZA-CHG90-Curved-Monitor/dp/B07CT1T7HH
But it lacks adaptive refresh rate support, so it's basically a non-starter in 2020
orchid rose
Mine has it, but it doesn't work....
orchid rose
More like medium oof
subtle pasture
The other thing I liked about the Lenovo is you can hook it up via dual-HDMI rather than single-displayport, and your OS will see two 1920x1200 monitors
No weird windowing software required
orchid rose
Not many people who need that, but I guess it can be neat
subtle pasture
I mean, if you want it to behave like two monitors for desktop work...
Which is why all of these ultrawides tend to come with window management software
Oh dang, Asus getting in on the DWUGXA action as well. Thank fuck the Lenovo isn't the only one on the market anymore
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-XG43VQ-Ultra-Wide-FreeSync-DisplayHDR/dp/B082XZKQN6
Is it me, or is shopping ultrawide monitors kinda a nightmare? Way too many variants
clear ferry
🏇
subtle pasture
Fun fact for triple-monitor and ultrawide users: If your horizontal resolution exceeds 4096 pixels, most Quake3-engine games will insta-crash because of a framebuffer overflow.
midnight adder
i alo got a ultrawide monitor.. but thats just looking rediculus. I also dislike curved monitors. nice to game shit to work with anything what needs straight lines
slate marsh
Hmm never spotted that my left monitor is vertical maybe I just sneak under
subtle pasture
A single 4k 16:9 screen is still only 3840 x 2160, so not enough to break the engine
slate marsh
You see what you’ve done here is make me want to go back and play old games!
subtle pasture
I first noticed it trying to run Return to Castle Wolfenstein triple-monitor
You can work around the issue if you switch to ioquake / iortcw, which are based on the source released by ID, with lots of fixes and improvements (original game required)
subtle pasture
I really need to check those out
slate marsh
I remember playing original wolfenstein as a kid. Not sure I should have been
hushed basalt
That we know of
slate marsh
In all fairness is was going to go for “yet”
clear ferry
In my dreams?
Sure
Every night
What in tarnation
Where you at @forest edge ?
Did you move to Idaho?
deft pewter
I expected most of that map to be dark 🤣
subtle pasture
@deft pewter Saaaame...
clear ferry
🤣 🤣
deft pewter
What's the deal with WA? I can understand the South, especially closer to the border.
subtle pasture
@deft pewter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Canadians
French speakers, would be my guess
low harness
High percentage of French Ca... too late
subtle pasture
lol
scenic radish
Crench Fanadians
deft pewter
I had no idea there were so many in WA.
brisk glen
hello podman
hello unifiOS on my cloudkey, hello API for motion events from cameras that are fast
forest edge
Where you at @forest edge ?
@clear ferry i mean there is an easy explanation for why the places that are dark, are dark lol
hushed basalt
Do y'all know if WD shuckables typically go on sale on Amazon during Black Friday/ Cyber Monday?
subtle pasture
Typically, yeah
Though they've become more of a crapshoot in recent years
No telling if you're going to get an SMR drive or not
And no telling if you'll get a Red or a White drive
amber bramble
i hope they do, i need a couple more 8tb drives for my nas
grave hill
Can anyone give me a hint how to use the emergency console?
scenic radish
#330990055533576204 probably can
subtle pasture
@amber bramble If you get a white label drive, you might find it won't work in your NAS unless you remove this pin
This happens because the white label drives use this as a reset pin, and older backplanes (made before this being a reset pin was made part of the SATA standard) just tie that pin high at 3.3v at all times
So the drive just resets over and over because of the outdated backplane
This will also happen when connecting a white label drive to a PSU that provides 3.3v power to the SATA connectors. You can either modify the drive or the SATA power connectors...
amber bramble
@subtle pasture yeah i've got some adapters to fix that 😃
subtle pasture
Good call. I've shucked a few drives myself, lol
amber bramble
i've got 4 drives in my nas currently, but I can expand it up to 15 if i remember right
forest edge
when you need small buisness storage space you know you got issues
subtle pasture
@forest edge Plex library + system backups from computers around the house take up a lot of space...
forest edge
not that much space
if you are hording system backups then you got even more issues lol
scenic radish
I think ur just jealous that ur storage is 🤏
forest edge
it's not the size of capacity but the compression that matters
shrewd oasis
A movie and or tv series library takes up a lot of space. Especially when you “get” them as high res.
subtle pasture
12x 4TB drives there (48 TB raw capacity). I'm not even close to what the datahorder guys are up to...
forest edge
anything more than 10TB for a residents constitutes as an "addiction"
subtle pasture
You can get 16TB in a single drive bro...
forest edge
why get this amount when you can get this amount amirite
shrewd oasis
I have a kodi library and 10 tb between me and my gf goes fast with tv shows, movies, music, picture, and the smallest group documents.
forest edge
stop downloading p0rn then
subtle pasture
VR porn does take up a ton of space, fyi
shrewd oasis
I don’t need p0rn. I got a girlfriend for that.
scenic radish
Your girlfriend makes porn? Sweet, where at?
subtle pasture
Lol
shrewd oasis
Hahaha
subtle pasture
But yeah, pre-recorded VR video files are gigantic. Think dual-4k video at 60 to 144 FPS
The bitrates are nuts
shrewd oasis
Didn’t have vr
But that does sound like it would take up space fast
I do use unraid for my nas so I also need the space for dockers ( which isn’t much) and vms.
Vm backups take up space too
subtle pasture
Not backing up to the nas they're running from, I hope..
shrewd oasis
Unfortunately yea.... but they are backups I will move to another unraid system offsite once I get it built.
How do you keep a backup?
Do you have another system right next to it or offsite?
Because I have a question about offsite if you are doing that
hushed basalt
subtle pasture
My virtualization hosts have local storage, so backing up to the NAS is a suitable backup for the VMs
I have some cloud backup, but only for documents and photos. Cloud storage gets expensive fast
hushed basalt
Especially since Google Drive unlimited got nixed
shrewd oasis
Mine also has local storage and I backup all of that together to the nas it’s running on
Only thing that’s not local storage on a vm are games which run directly from the nas to the vm.
hushed basalt
Hmm my Optiplex 9020 get's pretty warm with 32GB of ram and a quad network card in it
clear ferry
Backing up to the main storage 🤢
hushed basalt
Being norwegian 🤢
scenic radish
More like BOREwegian amirite
hushed basalt
hushed basalt
Hmm what should i get if it turns out my fileservers mobo is ded
- Find a cheapish motherboard to suit an 7th gen Intel
- sell the cpu but have to buy a new cpu, motheboard and probably ram
peak cloud
No, that's me
clear ferry
I'm still impressed I managed to get a r510. From the us to Norway with shipping for $150
hushed basalt
R510 would cost about $350~ a year to run
I don't think I could even source a motherboard for my CPU,
tidal bronze
@clear ferry congrats on 20 🥂
hushed basalt
20 what?
tidal bronze
@peak cloud how are you feeling. ?
clear ferry
Anniversery with the wife @hushed basalt
hushed basalt
You must be old,
peak cloud
I am feeling great! I'd say I am fully recovered now.
clear ferry
That was fast
peak cloud
2 weeks
tidal bronze
Thats great to hear. 👍
peak cloud
Still can't fully smell or taste, but they seem to be slowly coming back.
clear ferry
Had a customer who got it, he was basically bedridden for 5 weeks, and is still fatigued, and no sense of taste or smell after 6 months
peak cloud
It affects everyone differently. 😦
hushed basalt
You'd be the first person I've spoken to who's had it,
tidal bronze
Yep
hushed basalt
We haven't had community transmission here in like 6-7 months
clear ferry
I know of 3-4 people who know they have had it
but I hang with so many young people they probably don't know
hearty depot
thats fun
https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy
clear ferry
I love the windows10 guilt tripping if you select "offline user"
"yes I select the limited experience"
LIMITED
Even when you have selected that it brings you to the user creation screen and says "Or, Even better, use an online account"
low harness
TIL in bash you can't escape single quotes in single qouted strings, but have to concatenate them in via a double qouted string ```bash
bash -c ' echo '"'"'hello'"'"' && echo "there"'
hello
there```
low harness
Hey! I have legitimate reason
clear ferry
low harness
Balloob said I couldn't make it a built-in function, is my reason.
command: >
bash -c '
python -m homeassistant --script ensure_config -c /config &&
python -m homeassistant --script auth -c /config add dev dev &&
echo '"'"'{
"data": { "done": ["user", "core_config", "integration"]},
"key": "onboarding",
"version": 3
}'"'"' > /config/.storage/onboarding &&
python -m homeassistant -v -c /config
'```
clever mortar
Can I introduce you to HERE docs?
low harness
Alternative is to start with a double qote, single quote the echo and escape every single one of the json quotes.
Heredoc doesn't work inside bash -c
low harness
Believe me, I tried.
clever mortar
🤣
clear ferry
low harness
I'm not disagreeing
It's not the worst I've written, though. Have a string tokenizer: c while(**p && **p == sep) (*p)++; char *ret = *p; while(**p && **p != sep) (*p)++; if(**p) **p = '\0', (*p)++; return ret;
Or maybe you'd like to count the number of colons in a string? for(i = 0; s[i]; s[i]==':'?i++:(int)(s++));
clever mortar
Eh, the code I write is fugly as it gets. I've had more than one full time programmer comment on my approaches 😄
I subscribe to if it's stupid and it works, it's not stupid
clear ferry
My code looks like a dead cat being pulled by chariots
low harness
I wrote that one seven years ago, and I had to think for a while before I remembered why it works...
tame sand
btw... since someone boosted the server yesterday, someone could make a banner for the server?
deft pewter
Well that was a fun morning. Just had to sit through a two hour group session on personality types and communication skills.
Needless to say, as a team of software engineers, there was a whole load of introverts and not a lot of communication.
I want my two hours back to do some software engineering 😐
deft pewter
Well they even insisted on us having webcams turned on throughout, otherwise I would've slept through it.
deft pewter
I did realise that I can browse Reddit on my phone without them noticing 😄
clear ferry
pssh, this is what we have 3 monitors for
deft pewter
And the one time they called my name it was to ask if I wanted to add anything. My response: 'not particularly'.
I have multiple monitors... I just didn't want to browse on a work machine during a meeting. Got a 'spare' monitor that's always displaying crap from my personal machine during the day though.
The ultrawide has a KVM, so that's usually on the MBP during the day.
You nerds have a special place on my spare monitor so I don't miss anything fun 😄
clear ferry
My work machine has been overruled with ubuntu
so corp can do whatever they want
Watch it @deft pewter
I'm in hangout
talking to @severe matrix
deft pewter
If I could get away with it, I'd probably do the same. Not sure I want to potentially brick a MBP though. Might upset the guys in IT.
I might actually enjoy BYOD.
clear ferry
I'm so god damn more productive after moving to linux on my laptop
if only teams voice would work properly
dusky plank
🐧
clear ferry
frigid comet
It's beta day in New Zeeland now, right?
wet pilot
not yet
clear ferry
vocal mauve
Hello
I have much HomeAssistant to setup
Going to try link my Nest cameras and Yale alarm to it
dusky plank
good luck
shy comet
cant beleive tehy charge for that
shy comet
everyone who has nest and wants HA?
clever mortar
To be fair, their doorbell camera is pretty neat, at least in terms of visuals
clear ferry
There will be other options ;-)
clever mortar
There are, just none that measure up in terms of cosmetics and functionality
vocal mauve
Yeah I have no other choice all the cameras are nest lol
Was looking at those wyze cameras
https://wyze.com/wyze-cam-v3.html Pretty cheap
To put some on the perimeter of the house
cos don't care about them getting smashed then
clear ferry
Eh, my $20 Poe cameras will live for years
vocal mauve
£300 for Nest camera lmao glad I didnt pay
shy comet
i think all doorbells have the same functionality at this point
cosmetics though is really subjective based on the person
clever mortar
Well, some of them are stupidly large, and some have potato quality cameras
Well, some of them are stupidly large, and some have potato quality cameras
vocal mauve
I haven't seen like a doorbell camera kit like two pieces
clever mortar
Well, some of them are stupidly large, and some have potato quality cameras
vocal mauve
Instead of a combo unit
clever mortar
Certainly plenty of combo units, but separates are trivial - any camera that suits, plus any way of making a doorbell smart that suits
Certainly plenty of combo units, but separates are trivial - any camera that suits, plus any way of making a doorbell smart that suits
vocal mauve
cos the smallest doorbell possible would be perfect
Alas we are only at the start of this stage
dusky plank
mine sits in the peephole 👀
clever mortar
My peephole is in the door, the wife would be "unamused" if I were to run cables there
static schooner
I would think that wouldn't look great from the inside
and wiring would be a challenge, unless it's battery-powered, which reinforces the previous point
dusky plank
its just a white aux cable on a white door in my case, nothing spectacular or noticeable
clear ferry
Peephole camera 🤕
hearty depot
@dusky plank pics or never happend
patent bloom
Glory hole camera? Ruh Ro......
night zodiac
https://share.busheezy.dev/DPGDyA.png I got a toy for the new place
I need to add droid noises to it
static schooner
DJ Roborock
dusky plank
wait, you can have custom sounds on a roborock?
dusky plank
cam
forest edge
so who's excited about the new soc M1 for mac? lol
low harness
You mean for that non-touchscreen ipad with the keyboard?
forest edge
it's going in everything from the pad down to watches
deft pewter
Wow. I'm surprised they're doing it with the MBP's.
Actually, I'm not. They probably know that a lot of people won't take the risk and will buy the next one up anyway... more money.
forest edge
it's apple's wet dream from making it impossible for anyone else to fix their shit and forcing apple users to pay them for everything
deft pewter
The right to repair movement needs to gain more traction.
The right to repair movement needs to gain more traction.
scenic radish
The right to repair movement needs to gain more traction.
clever mortar
But, my movement doesn't need repaired 🤔
scenic radish
Not yet
clever mortar
I'm not that old yet. Still got a few millennia on the clock yet
light trout
That sounds terible
clear ferry
Face of Bo @clever mortar ?
clever mortar
He aged well
clever mortar
It's hard to tell with anybody involved in time travel
low harness
I'm thinking more Legacy Of Kain. The vampires were a few millennia. And they didn't seem to mind... much...
hearty depot
@dusky plank meh, the other side
and also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvz3LRK263E
forest edge
ugh the M1 garbage is everywhere i look.. die already apple!
low harness
Why isn't force feedback more of a thing in movies?
I'm watching old PSX game intros with a controller in my hand, and it's AWESOME!
forest edge
force feedback in movies? as in the chair launches you into the wall when fast and furious guys hit stuff?
clear ferry
shy comet
force feedback in movies? you mean a really powerful subwoofer right? 😛
deft pewter
Nah, those seats that move like you're on a rollercoaster.
clever mortar
The brown note
deft pewter
💩
What's that? 7Hz or something?
That's the kind of thing younger me would've loved to test on people.
shy comet
oh i did that for Thor 3 it was aiite
deft pewter
I don't like gimmicks. I just want a comfortable seat and for the audio to not be too loud.
shy comet
it was pretty cool in the begining with surtur and mjolnir was comign from the other room
deft pewter
Even though I feel like my hearing is less sensitive than it used to be, I still find cinemas way too loud 😐
shy comet
you can tell they filmed that scene for those seats
i was reading an article about how certain movies they film in a way for those seats to benefit more
deft pewter
The only thing I've done with moving seats that added to the experience was the Avatar ride at Disney.
shy comet
disneyland or world? lol
deft pewter
World
They do the whole works. 3D displays, moving seats, wind, spray. Pretty convincing.
Some parts even convince you that you're falling, despite knowing you're stationary on a chair.
clever mortar
Yeah, some of Disney's rides are pretty awesome at tricking your brain
shy comet
oh thats cool....reminds me of the spiderman ride at Universal Orlando
deft pewter
The Spiderman one is cool... I'd say Avatar is more convincing.
Might just be the 3D tech has progressed some. Spiderman gives me headaches.
shy comet
ah i havnet been to disneyworld since tehy added that
forest edge
I went to disney world back in like 2000 something and went to that 3d thing they had. they called it 4d i think because of the seats moving and you got sprayed etc. anyways it was like honey I shrunk the kids or some animated doc brown thing, i don't remember exactly because what I remember most was the kid 4 seats down from me threw up all over his mother and I couldn't stop laughing because on the screen was goop or something being thrown around and I kept thinking boy she thinks this is realistic now
deft pewter
ah i havnet been to disneyworld since tehy added that
@shy comet I think it's only a few years old. It was pretty new (and really busy) when I last visited.
hushed basalt
@clear ferry what do you think of immersed computing
Went to a talk at a HPC cluster last night
forest edge
they don't need full liquid cooling in norway, they just open a window
hushed basalt
It's pretty impressive
1MW in a tiny room, no refrigeration.
They only run room air conditioning to make it more comfortable for workers otherwise they could just leave it off
No cooling bills in winter either, and runs off evaporation in summer
summer mantle
i have set up an esp32 with mqtt and I can switch a relay which im using to short the gate function to open, stop close it. My question is, i now have to decide whether to just use wifi all the way out there, or whether i could run the io cables in conduit i have, keeping the esp32 inside. Would the signal be ok reaching that far (30m) if kept away from other power source interference, or am i gambling too much and the cable will basically just be one big antenna picking up noise etc and causing more trouble than its worth? Any idea?
midnight adder
Nice blog
summer mantle
lol thanks
subtle pasture
You could always measure the drop over the cable and shift the logic level up to compensate
I see that a lot on USB devices, where a charger will output 5.2 or 5.3v so that the voltage is actually 5v after losses in the connectors and cables
shy comet
Nice LA county sending out emergency alerts to wear a mask. That's a first
subtle pasture
A bunch of counties got worse rather than better... and are being moved back into the "Purple" alert tier
Including the county I currently reside in, so that's fun
shy comet
I haven't been leaving the house much. Lots of instacart and postmates
subtle pasture
I basically only leave the house for groceries, and even then I'm careful AF
But I see way too many people out without masks, having get-togethers in their homes...
So of course infection rates went right back up
shy comet
Nobody knows how far apart 6 feet is, it's sad
Very rarely do I see people that far apart
static schooner
Need that South Park stick
forest edge
i like the announcement the governor of utah put out about hospitals hitting max capacity and mandating masks everywhere and canceling all gathering events and then making it very clear that thier economy is not shutting down
hushed basalt
scenic radish
... WHERE JOBS ALL GROW ON TINY JOBBIES
hushed basalt
Motherboard looks ded 😦
6 months out of it's 3 year warranty
shakes fist at computer gods
But old enough that I can't get a replacement motherboard to suit the CPU,
shrewd oasis
Hello. In what topic should I ask about ghost triggering?
forest edge
#spectral ?
shrewd oasis
Looked for it but didn’t find it. Maybe he went thru a wall?
clear ferry
@hushed basalt immersed is cool, but I prefer isolated water cooling, like the Apollo 8000
crisp burrow
so i deleted a device from my esphome integration and i cant figure out how to get it back...
deleted using this UI
clear ferry
press the + in the bottom of the screen
select esphome again
also, not in this channel 😉
dull belfry
How do you guys store motion detection recordings (motion eye)
And do you notify?
I was setting up doods and tried facebox too but I was making things way too complicated 😅
Right now I just take a snapshot when someone rings the door (webhooks) and it notifies me with a snapshot. But i want to do recordings too
clear ferry
I store every motion detection both video and images inside the jail that is running HA
quartz ether
Who is buying me a new macbook pro?
quartz ether
Is that you putting your hand up atxbyea
low harness
Maybe if you piss him off enough he'll send you a macbook as a punishment?
clear ferry
forest edge
wait till HP switches to arm lol
clear ferry
Good thing I don't work for HP
forest edge
oh thats right, you work in the basement company of HP
clear ferry
forest edge
like Gollum.. the precious lacky
quartz ether
I am surprised you do any work. I mean how do you find time for the shit talking 😛
clear ferry
I have three or four monitors at any given time, and rebooting clusters takes time
Right now I'm waiting for a system reboot, while trying to compile my own marlin firmware for ender3 and pissing on @forest edge
forest edge
we're gonna find out later from someone who "cares" for atx that he actually got mental challenges and all this time he dosen't actually work anywhere, just pretends he does with child like rubber versions of computers and stuff
quartz ether
Lol
forest edge
doubt you could argue with any of it lol
quartz ether
How big is thew bed on your ender3. I need something printed but its 430mm wide.
:p
Thought I better fix that before you got the wrong idea 😮
clear ferry
only standard 220x220x250 or whatever
just print it in two parts
and glue them together
quartz ether
no no no.
clear ferry
then you need a conveyer belt mod
quartz ether
Or a big ass printer. There CT-10 has a 500x500 bed 🙂 but no one I know has one.
clear ferry
I know of a swede who built a monster
his own design
think it was like 8xxX8xxX12xx something
quartz ether
😮 for what lol....
I used to get stuff from 3D Hubs but they have changed their model/concept and I cant even select PLA now let alone get a damn quote
low harness
For printing print-in-place 3d-printers?
idle totem
forest edge
why is getting an led strip to show a decent orange such a pain in the ass
forest edge
no trying to set up this strip for next halloween
midnight adder
hi
probably stupid question, just looking for a redirect: can I connect multiple conbee2 devices to the same home assistant installation?
would #zigbee-archived be the right place to ask?
low harness
#zigbee-archived, and also check the last few messages in #hardware-archived
midnight adder
thank you kind sir
forest edge
wish there was a reload lights
dull chasm
@forest edge there is is the big black thing at top here
forest edge
nah that's only for resetting your computer
dull chasm
works for that too ...and zwave back in the day
man i have always got up early usually 4am but here lately its been 230ish ...
i think its this damn time change
forest edge
it's called getting old
dull chasm
dont call me atx
forest edge
i said old, not gross
dull chasm
ah ok you forgiven
forest edge
@clear ferry are you back on lockdown or you still able to go to work?
clear ferry
We are locking down, but I work from home 4 of 5 days a week anyway
so I don't care much
visit a single customer weekly
dull chasm
nah ...they had one case and ate him so all is good
clear ferry
Actually our confirmed cases are rising steadily
200 new cases in the capitol yesterday
forest edge
covid lemmings on the rise
dull chasm
yall not eating fast enough
dull chasm
well we have more than 10 people per 100km2
forest edge
when your pop is over 300 million a million is a drop in a bucket
clear ferry
dull chasm
i bet thats ^^^^^ real facial expression
dull chasm
out of our unit ....of 2k ....15 positive but only 1 really got sick ....not sure where these numbers are coming from
i think a wet fart ...you are included in the numbers
forest edge
midwest is the hot zone now
dull chasm
btw Happy Veterans Day to all the vets 🇺🇸 and any vet of any country imo
forest edge
one of my auto automations. turns my outside lights red white and blue
dull chasm
cool .... I kinda wished it could be international ...as it conicides with the end of ww2 ...the 11th day the 11th hour ....people (soilders included) tend to forget ...A young man serves his country should be honored and respected ...no matter if you believe in thier cause or think they are right .....he is doing what he thinks is right.
onyx quest
hey is someone up for a call? in the VC
clear ferry
vocal mauve
Strange device
dull chasm
@vocal mauve i doubt it ...prolly cam to cloud and cloud to app ...but ask in #cameras-archived they may have done before
vocal mauve
Thank you
dull chasm
np
onyx quest
hey so i am working on my own home assistant kinda and i was wondering if someone could help me a bit on my way
forest edge
atx should get in voice but beware we're sure his attempt at english sounds more like a penguin being beaten with a bat
clear ferry
clever mortar
@onyx quest Best thing to do is use the relevant channel for your question(s) 😉
velvet horizonBOT
onyx quest
hmm which channel should i use then?
clever mortar
There's a lot of channels, they have topics, have a look and see where your first question best fits
If after that you can't work it out, use #general-archived
midnight adder
Hi
clear ferry
I should close tabs more often
this is just one of my 3 firefox windows
and I rebooted my computer yesterday 🤔
young sigil
Are you one of those people with a desktop full of shortcut icons too?
young sigil
Well that's ok then.
clear ferry
I just seldom close tabs
I think the most I've seen is 459 or something
Although ```eirikz@gintama:/mnt$ cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal: 49271820 kB
How much physical RAM does that machine have?
clear ferry
young sigil
Memory motherfucker, memory. How much?
young sigil
I've consumed all my measly 32GB in firefox when Lovelace went awry. Was editing a card with a UI that should not have had one.
hushed basalt
I feel like 16GB is too small sometimes for a PC
clear ferry
Gui editor 🤕
hushed basalt
I'll probably put 32GB at least in my next desktop
clear ferry
Yeah, anything less than 16-24 would be hopeless
48 was pushing it on windows and a few vms
After moving to Linux it's more headroom
karmic plank
im currently trying to move back to HA for my automations, and started fresh, everything is moving along nicely, BUT i cant get my Razberry board to talk with my rasberry pi, anyone have a clue and a couple minutes over to assist me?
clever mortar
See #zwave-archived for help with Z-Wave
hushed basalt
What do you think, Ryzen 3700X for my new server?
light trout
Do you need it now?
hushed basalt
Kinda yeah
Server DED
I mean I can migrate things to a simpler SFF and run without media storage for a while
light trout
3700X should work fine, I would get the 3900X if you can
hushed basalt
5600X is $30 cheaper but I'd have to wait for a while
3900X is 50% more expensive
I was probably already pushing it with the 3700X over a 3600_
light trout
Ah
clear ferry
🤏
light trout
I recently got a 3900X, quite happy with that so far
hushed basalt
I mean my current main compute is a 4th gen i7 4C/8T
But that's not doing any storage
Thinking of just selling some of the SFF compute nodes and putting everything in one box,
Hyperconverged, fraught with perils
clear ferry
If you are doing zfs you need a proper amount of memory also
hushed basalt
Yeah I'll probably be doing 64GB
I only have about 16TB of usable storage and I don't really see that increasing anytime soon tbh
I'm only using 2.5TB atm
hushed basalt
Maybe I should immerse it in a tank of oil
I know how much you love things that are different @clear ferry
hushed basalt
1MW in a small room,
no refrigeration
just evap towers in summer, dry air exchanged in winter
hushed basalt
They just built a big facility in Texas
15MW IRRC
They said they have a PUE of 1.05
hearty depot
deft pewter
Describes most support questions on this server too 😄
low harness
I remember people putting their gaming computers in old fish tanks filled with mineral oil. Fans and all.
clear ferry
@deft pewter like the wifes best friend, literally anything she sends messages about is the first thing on Google if you google exactly what she asks for
I usually just send her links to lmgtfy
winter ether
Hey guys 🙂 I want to use this sensor, it measure puls and oxygen: https://protocentral.com/product/pulse-pulse-ox-heart-rate-sensor-based-on-max30102/ to esp home / hassio
deft pewter
I remember people putting their gaming computers in old fish tanks filled with mineral oil. Fans and all.
@low harness how do the fish survive the fans?
wet pilot
probably stay away
winter ether
the sensor is an MAX30102 v, the lib from platformia is https://platformio.org/lib/show/1288/SparkFun MAX3010x Pulse and Proximity Sensor Library buts its an sparkfunk modell, how i can adjust this? Any ideas?
low harness
@deft pewter
clever mortar
Sounds like #diy-archived @winter ether 😉
sand dragon
Hi, I’m new here.
last cedar
Hi, new here!
sand dragon
Hi, new here!
@last cedar Well actually my name is Ruud but I think that’s obvious 😛
last cedar
😂
sand dragon
So, I had HA installed a few years back, think I just killed it by trying to upgrade. I’ll do a new install when my RPi 4 is in (tomorrow I hope). I’ll probably get back to you when Google doesn’t help fix all the issues I have 🙂
dull chasm
well @clever mortar is a good source of all info if you can get past the grumpy stuff
dull chasm
see post above
orchid rose
So are these Apple claims just pure bullshit or is Arm actually going to compete with x86 from now on?
clear ferry
I doubt it, atleast for the next 10+ years, too much software is compiled for x86
All apple claims are bullshit though
orchid rose
It's a pretty interesting move to ditch x86 though
But like you said, all the software that's compiled for x86... Not sure how that can work out well
clear ferry
There is no proper on the fly translator from x86 to arm either
Like Aries for pa RISC and Itanium
orchid rose
Seems like it's mostly a move for them to keep everything as closed as possible
This was rather funny too...
8 gigs of RAM for the low low price of 200$...
orchid rose
and it's built in so there's no way to do it yourself
dull chasm
that must be a norway price
dull chasm
well you gotta feed and clothe the ones that dont work ....duh
clear ferry
Thankfully most of my customers who had apple products have since moved on
Only two software development companies still have them
And they will probably drop it after these prices
orchid rose
but hey, at least the macbook comes with a charger!
dull chasm
so does atx but i decided on a no ship option
clear ferry
@orchid rose that's right, the new iPhone doesn't....
orchid rose
saving the expenses planet
dull chasm
well apple fan boys are just that fan boys with no clue
clear ferry
Designed in the us, put together by small Chinese hands
I think I saw some interesting study that the iPhone was 60% market share in the us, while in the rest of the world they are 20% wonder if I can find that
dull chasm
@clear ferry no matter the subject ....you always end with usa somehow ....someshere ....kinda worries me
orchid rose
oh lol the SSD is even more expensive for the macbook air. Fucking $800 for 2TB of storage
scenic radish
Well, it's because it's a P R E M I U M SSD
dull chasm
hardly ever do i hear anybody else say anything about anywhere beside @clear ferry
last dirge
graphs without labeled axes are ridiculous
scenic radish
last dirge
their stupid graph could have that power consumption number at 10W and the next step on the graph could be 10.1W and waaaaaaaay over to the right to throw everything off
"performance" is also useless to put on a graph
what's it measuring?
is that something that actually matters in real usage?
scenic radish
tl;dr: those graphs are fscking useless
woeful rock
maybe someone into networking could help me a bit. this isnt exactly about home assistant but ha is involved. all my home assistant stuff is on an isolated vlan. now i would like to let home assistant host reach one host at my default lan. whats best solution to make this happen?
home assistant (on vlan1) -> 1-wire owserver (on vlan3)
last dirge
bridge with rules
clear ferry
Also, if you don't know networking, you shouldn't be trying such advanced stuff to secure it
Without knowing what you are doing
woeful rock
why not?
orchid rose
atx is just a hater
clear ferry
I'm a realist
orchid rose
As long as you know what the risks are when you fuck up, I don't think there's much wrong with tinkering with stuff you don't fully understand. Most of my stuff works with magic
last dirge
everything electronic works with magic smoke
clever mortar
You forgot ... and have a plan on how you're gonna revert 😉
clear ferry
I've seen too many people "secure" their network then come here and other places to cry because stuff doesn't work
orchid rose
Just don't be this guy though and lose other people's mental health files by building the security for it yourself...
woeful rock
k, sorry for asking 😐
last dirge
@orchid rose I am also someone of questionable intelligence
so, proceed at your own peril
or success
woeful rock
i imagine atxbyea is that kind of person who read the manual a few days before proceeding to unpack and install the new microwave owen. always been wondering if those exists at all :]
woeful rock
you shouldn't be trying such advanced stuff
orchid rose
Atx hires a professional to install the microwave
and marries another to cook for him I assume
But kidding aside, network security is something to take pretty seriously tbf
clear ferry
Doing it wrong either means you can't do anything, or someone else can do everything
last dirge
or both
clear ferry
Usually
subtle pasture
@clear ferry There is no proper on the fly translator from x86 to arm either
I wouldn't say that... Windows and Linux have both had x86-on-ARM transparent emulation support for a long, long time now
And many ARM chips include additional instructions specifically to accelerate x86 emulation
static schooner
sometimes 32-bit and 64-bit differ in emulation
subtle pasture
My guess is Apple jointly developed an x86 emulator AND the supporting silicone to accelerate it when designing their new ARM chips, allowing for decent x86 performance for apps that don't have native ARM versions
One of the advantages of vertical integration/consolidation, I suppose
clear ferry
Really? Is there a wowarm?
subtle pasture
Yup!
static schooner
Windows on Arm has been a thing for a while
subtle pasture
He's talking about WoW, which is "Windows on Windows"
clear ferry
I knew W10 introduced arm support
static schooner
oh 🙂
subtle pasture
WoW was traditionally used to allow 64bit Windows to run 32bit applications
But yeah, same thing exists on Windows for ARM, allowing it to run x86 applications
clear ferry
Without performance loss?
orchid rose
iirc it wasn't a huge loss, but the compatibility was limited
at least the last time I checked
subtle pasture
WoW (32bit applications on 64bit Windows)? Performance loss is very, very minimal, and compatibility is near-perfect.
clear ferry
Well, was thinking if wowarm or whatever they call it
subtle pasture
Windows for ARM was (until recently) limited to running 32bit applications. They just started supporting AMD64 emulation.
clear ferry
Aha
subtle pasture
And performance does take a hit vs. native recompilation
clear ferry
And amd64 is it's own mess
subtle pasture
AMD64 == x86_64...
clear ferry
Afaik amd64 and x86_64 isn't 100% compatible
Atleast it wasn't
Or whatever was emt64 at some point
subtle pasture
It's the same thing now. Intel gave up on designing their own 64bit architecture and just runs AMD64 now
RIP Itanium
clear ferry
Don't bring back my good memories of EPIC
deft pewter
I prefer STEAM
subtle pasture
It's honestly a good thing that AMD won the 64bit war, because it creates mutually-assured-destruction if AMD and Intel ever get into a patent war
woeful rock
btw @clear ferry i had already solved it and had it configured correctly. the problem was my anddroid i was testing connection with doesnt work when its connected to a wifi without internet access. stupid stuff
now go read your manuals
subtle pasture
Hah, I've had the honor of booting Windows 2000 on a DEC Alpha system
clear ferry
I've had one of those too, a dual alpha /RISC system, that could boot both nt4 and vms
subtle pasture
Alpha support was literally cut at the last minute during Windows 2000's development cycle
subtle pasture
It did. Windows 2000 Beta 3 was the last version of Windows to run on Alpha
clear ferry
Beta even
subtle pasture
clear ferry
Still required a dual CPU system I guess
It used the RISC to load the boot loader
And then the alpha took over
I960 I think it was
subtle pasture
@clear ferry Double checked, you were right, RC2 actually had a build compiled for Alpha
So Build 5.00.2128.1 is the last one to run on the old hardware
clear ferry
@woeful rock btw, don't think I've read a manual in 18 years, last thing to come close was the Windows 2003 Bible afaicr
scenic radish
even u
scenic radish
heads up for any current YouTube Premium subscribers in the US: select current subscribers can get a free Stadia Premiere Edition: https://stadia.google.com/SdFGljSduV5z
you have to be a current subscriber as of Nov 6. seems to be targeted so YMMV. worked for me
subtle pasture
To be fair, that's some pretty obscure knowledge
whips up an "obscure Windows development history" bingo card
subtle pasture
That's a mood, lol
scenic radish
You're something alright
deft pewter
People pay atx to be atx? I'd pay for him not to be 😄
clear ferry
I've had 7 managers the last 10 years, they have all said at various points can we clone you?
deft pewter
For some painful lab experiments, I hope
scenic radish
Can we clone you so we can kill you more than once?
clear ferry
deft pewter
atx is giving us clues about his fetishes.
clear ferry
deft pewter
🤏
scenic radish
More like holidaze
last plaza
I need to move my printer to a protected are to print what @green inlet wanted 😝
subtle pasture
lol
@clear ferry Nothing wrong with knowing what you like
Also, I'm absolutely shocked nobody dropped an eggplant emoji anywhere in there
last plaza
🍆
subtle pasture
...there it is
omg, the first GIF that comes up when you put "eggplant" into Discord's GIF search...
clear ferry
I have no idea what I like, but I like almost anyone
last plaza
Yeah, let’s not do that. Those gifs are graphic!
subtle pasture
That's why I posted my reaction, and not the gif. lol
subtle pasture
That's a woman with an eggplant in that gif, though 🤔
clear ferry
Thanks
subtle pasture
Give him a hand, everyone 👏
forest edge
turns around and walks back out
last plaza
I think discord changed their menu order with the latest update on mobile. I keep hitting wrong menu item - muscle memory!
clear ferry
Yep they did
subtle pasture
What menu changed?
last cedar
Not on android right? I haven't noticed any changes for a while
last plaza
forest edge
read somewhere discord is working on trying to implement a zoom type feature. soon we can all brady bunch one another but atx will have to be on the bottom middle because we're already use to looking down on him
scenic radish
Noticed that too @last plaza ... Super annoying
last plaza
This menu - when you click on the message.
clear ferry
forest edge
grats, you got clutter
last cedar
Are those underwater creatures?
last plaza
Getting ready for holidays @clear ferry I still got good old Christmas lighting. I need to switch to led lights.
last cedar
That I can't spell the name of
deft pewter
Fish?
forest edge
it's bacteria that has grown into various forms in his garage from years of never cleaning
it just looks like led lights
last cedar
Yes, fish. Thanks
clear ferry
Wow, the power supply actually has a fan
low harness
Well, atx. That Donald gif could have been more family friendly...
last cedar
Sea anemones
low harness
It upset my kids and, more so, my wife... so thanks a lot...
last cedar
Apparently
forest edge
upset your wife? 🤔
clear ferry
Did you open discord on the family TV?
low harness
Had it open on my computer
subtle pasture
@forest edge Discord already supports group video chat on servers
last cedar
With a 65 inch screen
subtle pasture
So you can do zoom-type / brady bunch meetings if you want. lol
forest edge
@subtle pasture it's not like zoom tho
subtle pasture
Yeah, it sucks less >_>
forest edge
i meant the layout
So you can do zoom-type / brady bunch meetings if you want. lol
@subtle pasture hmm? this is new cause I messed with it a bit ago with a friend and it didn't appaer like that
clear ferry
The new teams feature of every camera having a seat in a movie theater...
It kinda weird
last plaza
Apparently they (MS) are rolling out more of those modes.
Gallery view, together mode...etc.
deft pewter
Huh? What's wrong with just seeing who's currently speaking?
forest edge
people like to see everyone.. they miss skype
deft pewter
I don't like to see anyone.
forest edge
close your eyes?
deft pewter
I just leave my cam off and minimise Teams...
Leaves my whole desktop free to actually do some work while everyone else talks shit.
last cedar
I don't even like seeing myself
forest edge
well you do look like you just robbed a convivence store
last cedar
low harness
Makes me think of the story about Rabarber-Barbara.
And Rabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbarbärbel.
The English translation is so-so, unfortunately.
clear ferry
A few weeks ago
subtle pasture
I need to experience this weirdness
last plaza
It’s been there for a while.
low harness
Anyone else think the unmute and camera buttons are way too close to each other in Teams?
subtle pasture
yes
Discovered that shortcoming when I was running late one morning and joined an 8:00 AM meeting from my phone while getting ready
last dirge
heh
low harness
I misclicked first time introducing myself to a new client. Glad I was decent.
subtle pasture
Yeah, thankfully all they got was a shot of my bathroom ceiling for a minute, because the phone was face-up on the counter
But that could have been bad XD
clever mortar
@low harness you don't have a cover on the camera? 🤣
forest edge
or good.. depending on the viewer..
last plaza
Best part for me is the ability to set custom backgrounds.
last plaza
There are some really funny backdrops we could use
subtle pasture
@crisp burrow Custom backgrounds can be abused...
last dirge
I used the Four Seasons background earlier today
subtle pasture
Four Seasons Total Landscaping? 😂
clear ferry
I wish discord supported videos
last dirge
oh yeah
subtle pasture
It does O.o
clear ferry
It does?
Not from the camera
I can't film my wled setup 🤣
Then I have to imgur it
😠
subtle pasture
Not sure what you mean? I can attach MP4 files from my phone camera no problem
And they play embedded
low harness
You can show it in hangout
clear ferry
Orly, can't do it directly from the camera atleast @subtle pasture
subtle pasture
I just use the file-attach button inside Discord 🤷♀️
@last dirge There's already a Four Seasons VRChat world
https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2020/11/9/21557029/four-seasons-total-landscaping-furries-vrchat-trump
clear ferry
Had to go to gallery, not directly in discord @subtle pasture
And not auto playing I would say
subtle pasture
@clear ferry That's odd that it didn't embed...
Nope, that works fine...
First random MP4 file I could find, lol
clear ferry
Weird
night zodiac
@clear ferry wutcha working on
clear ferry
Christmas outdoor lights
night zodiac
I was looking into the same last night
clear ferry
Have 900ish of them to hang up
night zodiac
are yours fancy at all or normal?
subtle pasture
Are those individually addressable LED Christmas lights? 👀
night zodiac
yeah, I was looking into individually adressable
clear ferry
@subtle pasture yup
subtle pasture
And they don't appear to flicker, woo
night zodiac
the girlfriend rolled her eyes when I talked about using a light strip so maybe christmassy lights will be better
subtle pasture
I hate cheap flickery LED Christmas lights... makes it nearly impossible to drive at night
night zodiac
links? lol
scenic radish
Embedding videos doesn't work for Norwatians @clear ferry
night zodiac
thanks ted 😉
forest edge
they will last about a week thern burn out
night zodiac
night zodiac
yeah, damn. They might be here too late 😛
forest edge
so the chances of catching your house on fire... 90%
night zodiac
I'm moving soon and the girl has always wanted a christmas tree so i got a fancy one
I should be able to get away with plenty of gaudy lights
not for the tree, but for the house
clear ferry
I bought fancy Christmas lights last year
night zodiac
I bought some 7.5 foot bullshit