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clever mortar
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Only go with something else if you actually know it well

stable flint
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also which one is most easily manageable from ha ui?

clever mortar
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None ๐Ÿ˜‰

stable flint
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tru

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supervisor will be going out of support soon?

clever mortar
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๐Ÿคท

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Probably not, but my Tardis is broken

stable flint
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sorry to sound stupid again, container, supervies or core take less resources or are they all similar?

clever mortar
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All much the same

velvet horizonBOT
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clever mortar
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See the blog for what they all are

stable flint
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also can supervised be managed with systemd?

clever mortar
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no

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Each channel has an ADR explaining them in the pinned messages there

stable flint
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also sorry, one last question; do you personally prefer core or supervised?

clever mortar
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Supervised is the method that requires the most skill and experience

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Only use it if you're at home managing Docker and Linux

stable flint
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hmm im ok at linux so ill just stick with core

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thanks for explaining btw

clever mortar
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Container requires less skill than Core

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OS requires less than Container

stable flint
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k

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thanks

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will continue with my debian install now

rose crystal
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So a couple (but not all) of my lights just turned off and the logbook says "turned off by Hass.io" Huh?

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Serious question because the WAF is not great atm.

fiery sorrel
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web application firewall ?

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or how your SO feel about it ?

rose crystal
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wife approval factor

clever mortar
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Hass.io would be the Nabu Casa Cloud service

rose crystal
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(Which I do not have.)

clever mortar
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So, somebody used Google/Alexa to turn them off

rose crystal
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nope

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that's what it looks like when google does it

clever mortar
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Probably through the app ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Though, this is off topic for this channel

deft pewter
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You mean there's... no support here? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

rose crystal
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k, which channel should i annoy with this then?

clever mortar
rose crystal
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which i don't have ๐Ÿ˜‰

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i'll give it a shot. thanks!

fiery sorrel
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You mean there's... no support here? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
@deft pewter Soon they will tell me no politics , religion or any other obviously contentious topics

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what a world XD

deft pewter
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Someone should put something in the topic so people don't keep making the same mistake.

deft pewter
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That scene is a perfect example of why I never fasten the top button of my shirts.

fiery sorrel
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But where am i suposed to talk about my love for ... (what's a controversial topic ...) Systemd !?

rose crystal
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as always thanks for the help

hollow glacier
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do yall tuck in your HDDs before going to bed?

deft pewter
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I dunno. I don't think I've seen a more divisive choice than vi vs nano...

clever mortar
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emacs you mean

deft pewter
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Tuck them in? I don't even mount them to the chassis.

clever mortar
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Nobody takes nano seriously ๐Ÿ˜›

fiery sorrel
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someone asked me nicely to add emacs to all our server at work...

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i did it with a lot of despaire

deft pewter
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You burned them alive, right?

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vi all the way

fiery sorrel
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he told me that the shortcut of emacs made him delete stuff on vi by accident

dusky plank
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can we talk about why we're not using yaml anymore and instead use the UI flow? someone had this idea yesterday here, I would like to keep this topic alive. pls? ๐Ÿ˜‰

fiery sorrel
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i ... didn't get it

light trout
clever mortar
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Oh, interesting

hollow glacier
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can we talk about why we're not using yaml anymore and instead use the UI flow? someone had this idea yesterday here, I would like to keep this topic alive. pls? ๐Ÿ˜‰
@dusky plank you mean lovelace-ui.yaml right?

deft pewter
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Let's not go there again, mstone ๐Ÿ˜„

clever mortar
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That really helps clear up the continued use of Hass.io for the Cloud service @light trout ๐Ÿ‘

deft pewter
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We don't want to upset petro

fiery sorrel
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To be faire the ui is getting very good, i juste hope they where a way to store automation/script in the ui in folder ... because (with my lack of organisation) it's quickly a mess XD

light trout
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I think that's only used for the google app (since google would not allow the use of Home Assistant)

deft pewter
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The UI is getting amazing. I haven't been paying attention for a few versions and I stumbled upon the hints that devtools > Templates gives now re which states a template will observe (and even when a template might not trigger).

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I'm happy to only use YAML for automations now. The UI is awesome for pretty much everything else.

dusky plank
fiery sorrel
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it's sad, but the ui (post lovelace) was the main raison i went from Jeedom to Home assistant...

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i discover long list of integration way later

dusky plank
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so then what do we have left? discussions about which hypervisor is best?

deft pewter
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If it's not VirtualBox, I'm not touching it.

dusky plank
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the real question is: where is the puke guy? ๐Ÿคข

fiery sorrel
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Eurk Oracle

deft pewter
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๐Ÿคข

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I think atx is stuck in a snowstorm

dusky plank
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I hope he has Internet access and lots of terabytes ram wherever he is

deft pewter
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He never leaves home without at least 4 sticks of RAM.

dusky plank
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good old blyatxbae

fiery sorrel
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So i am doing something i have be told to never do myself ... data recovery.
Want to guess my odd of sucess ?

deft pewter
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3.6 roentgen

fiery sorrel
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context:

  • i have fried the disk by sending it 24V
  • i only the MB seam dead
  • i have a donor board, but the bios and the contoler look updated
  • i don't have any hot air station
clever mortar
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I think you'll have more luck trying microwaving it

fiery sorrel
light trout
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One of these days, someone might take you seriously @clever mortar ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿคฃ

clever mortar
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I hope so ๐Ÿ˜‰

young sigil
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  • i don't have any hot air station
    @fiery sorrel just use an electric skillet for the reflow.
clever mortar
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At least it wasn't stapled...

fiery sorrel
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@young sigil the issue isn't the reflow, but the unsoldering

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i have a heat gun, i'll try to make a thiner tube with foil paper

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i mean what is the worst that could happend

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๐Ÿ  ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿš’

young sigil
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explode ๐ŸŽ†

fiery sorrel
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is that still my house ? or only the drive ?

fiery sorrel
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it's dead as it is, and not worth the 2000โ‚ฌ i have been ask by company, so ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

young sigil
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Yihua 858D rework hot air guns are relatively cheap. Just make sure to check the earthing before plugging it in.

fiery sorrel
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i'm not sure i am ready to spend 80$ for this ...

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959d pour 50$ ... but a heat gun should work right ?

dusky plank
fiery sorrel
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Oedipus complex complex right there ...

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did not like leaving his motherboard

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you didn't see me fight with the strikethrough ok !

last cedar
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@deft pewter you sly chernobyl lore person, you

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The graphite blocks would be proud

wind pelican
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Hey everyone!

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I'm new to using home assistant, but not too new to Home Auto

last cedar
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Welcome!

wind pelican
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Thank you thank you

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moving into a new place as we speak, so i've got a fresh canvas

forest edge
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@tidal bronze didn't know they did a documentary on you before you got hitched. https://youtu.be/q8zwIphm5r4

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wind pelican
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bwahaha!

tidal bronze
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@forest edge you gotta get off that youtube ๐Ÿ˜†

proven pasture
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installed lineage on old nexus 7, flo... now home assistant display ! whoop

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now need to figure out how to keep the display always on

last cedar
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@dusky plank stop knocking on my door

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@proven pasture I think there is an app for that

dusky plank
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I do what I want ๐Ÿฅณ

last cedar
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I have a headache

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Please stop

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You have no idea how much reverb this trash can has

proven pasture
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I found it, lineage has a feature called caffeine. Works a treat

last cedar
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Don't give it too much caffeine

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It will never be able to sleep again

hearty depot
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quiet today..

clever mortar
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Cool you say ๐Ÿค”

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Do you normally live in a foundry?

hearty depot
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nah, ist prottey normal to heat up a livingroom to 249ยฐc
Or is that difrent in GB?

clever mortar
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Only for the self cleaning cycle

fierce rover
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Hi any rooms for ESPHome ?

hearty depot
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What happend with Atxbyea again?

dull chasm
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a fresh whale washed up on beach and he is gorging on it

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well i am sorry but fresh is a relative word

hearty depot
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I hope he ll come back after that feast.
Just read the book Not Forgetting the Whale. (John Ironmonger)
not to shaby

forest edge
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@subtle pasture just watched a review on that rock pi x. thing is a turd lol

lost yarrow
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does anybody have a Raspberry Pi Display as a Dashboard which is able to auto dimm? through MQTT?

deft pewter
wanton bobcat
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So which one of these channels would be best to ask about room assistant? I have questions about the best way to calibrate RSSI levels for each one of my Raspberry Pi Zeros.

deft pewter
static schooner
wanton bobcat
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@static schooner That's golden, thank you!

pastel surge
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How long can the preparing home assistant take on a rpi1?

dull chasm
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forever

clever mortar
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Until it's done

pastel surge
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Thats great

clever mortar
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But see the channel topic ๐Ÿ˜‰

dull chasm
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rp1 and ha ...not a good mix

pastel surge
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Ah right, thanks

clever mortar
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Yeah, Pi1 - some hours

wanton bobcat
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Finally - home network question. Just bought a house, 3000 square feet but lots of rooms. Most rooms wired with cat6, and I have symmetric fiber line plus TONS of smart home devices. I need a new network system; my netgear switch doesnt have enough ethernet ports, and the crappy wifi network can't handle the load. Recs for a home network? Would like Unifi, but reaally want something that is "future proof enough" e.g. i can addd wifi 6 access points later.

pastel surge
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Yeah i had a spare rpi so i wanted to give it a shot before buying a new one

dull chasm
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unifi all the way ...

clever mortar
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To be honest, any managed switches and APs will do

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Unifi is one choice, but there's a lot of options

wanton bobcat
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I want Unifi, but I have no idea whatsoever what components to buy. I hear dream machine etc etc but want to make sure what I'm buying could theoretically support wifi 6 access points when those become a "thing"

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@clever mortar what do you use?

clever mortar
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A mix of stuff, no Unifi ๐Ÿ˜‰

dull chasm
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wire and string

clever mortar
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Various Zyxel smart switches, a handful of dumb switches, and some Asus ZenWifi units for WiFi

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You could do a lot worse than a Mikrotik switch, cheaper than Unifi and every bit as capable

wanton bobcat
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I need it to be partially brainless though, I'm finding I only have so much time to tinker these days ๐Ÿ˜ฆ With all the smart home stuff, I think the networking I'm going to have to have working out-of-the-box

dull chasm
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unifi is easy ...

clever mortar
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Yeah, if you want "one UI to rule them all" go Unifi

dull chasm
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want to kill some brain cells ...mikrotek ...

wanton bobcat
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lol

clever mortar
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Pfft, command line is easy ๐Ÿ˜‰

wanton bobcat
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Sounds like Unifi it is. But then... which Unifi devices? Is there a good guide

dull chasm
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they call port forwarding ....nat someshit ...

clever mortar
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๐Ÿคท

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I've been port forwarding since the days of Linux having two completely separate things you had to set up identically to make it work

dull chasm
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is that with skirt or without

clever mortar
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Either way, whichever makes you grin ๐Ÿ˜‰

wet pilot
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@wanton bobcat depends on what you need. How big is your space? How many clients? Etc

dull chasm
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and how much yaml

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๐Ÿคฃ

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well i have close to 100 with 2500 sqft ....pro 4 with 3 ap's

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two nanohds with one lr

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50ish wifi

wet pilot
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Yep, lots of "it depends"

dull chasm
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well my network is pretty diverse .....2 vlans ...20ish iot devices 3 mobile ....11 cameras and unifi runs it perfectly

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with a main and guest network

young sigil
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~120 wifi IoT devices connected to 3x Unifi AP lites seems to still be working without issue for me. All my cameras are hardwired.

dull chasm
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damn go ahead

tidal bronze
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When is unifi going to come out with sitewide minimum RSSI ๐Ÿค”

dull chasm
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here comes mr cali ....

tidal bronze
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That's the only thing that's missing for me. Wish iPhone kept pace with Android. One iPhone in the house creating all kinds of headaches. ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

dull chasm
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well apple ....isnt that a cali thing

tidal bronze
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I do apologize for that

dull chasm
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its ok we still love "you" and will let you move here when you wake up

wanton bobcat
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@wet pilot - eight rooms/separate spaces (technically a 5/3 house though, upstairs and downtairs), 3000 square feet total. Hard-wired I need 12 ethernet ports, and on wifi I will have 50-60 devices in total. Lots of z-wave (ring alarm, hue bulbs, smart locks) devicecs as well, if that influences anything.

tidal bronze
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You should be fine with unifi

clever mortar
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12 ports... 12 ports is nothing

wanton bobcat
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haha and I thought I was all that!

clever mortar
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I've got three 8 port managed switches, and a 24 port one, plus the dumb switches ๐Ÿ˜‰

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One day I'll get proper network cabling done and I can just get a proper central one

tidal bronze
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@clever mortar what type of walls ?

dull chasm
wanton bobcat
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That's beautiful. What hardware in the Unifi line are you usinhg?

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I'm sold on Unifi, to be clear.

dull chasm
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unifi

clever mortar
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Plasterboard/drywall @tidal bronze - so it's relatively simple

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Just need to pay somebody to do all the nasty work ๐Ÿ˜‰

tidal bronze
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Yep. That's easy

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Lol

clever mortar
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Other than rummaging around in the loft, with all the insulation

tidal bronze
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Blow in?

dull chasm
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@clever mortar wear pants and not skirt and it will be ok

clever mortar
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Unfortunately the upstairs and downstairs walls don't perfectly align, so there's going to be some "finessing" required

last cedar
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Wear a mask and long sleeve top

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Nothing small in your pockets

clever mortar
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Also, I'm at the point in life where I can just pay somebody to do that, and drop in neutral wires for light switches. I don't need to do it myself any more ๐Ÿ˜„

last cedar
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Doing it is a lot more fun though

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You can invent new swear words when you drop your cutters in the insulation

clever mortar
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Been there, done that

tidal bronze
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I don't do it myself either but everything goes on here I design and plan. Although nothing to do anymore ๐Ÿ˜†

last cedar
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I will be running a full wired alarm and door entry system in our house. Gonna be fun

young sigil
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Option ons on the unifi 48 port PoE switch? Want to replace all my unmanaged switches.

last cedar
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Which one Tom?

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Non edgeswitch? Pro or normal?

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I think most people complain about them being picky about sfp+ transceivers, probably noisy too (common theme with poe stuff)

young sigil
last cedar
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Some hate their way of beta testing astuff in the wild

young sigil
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I have no need for the sfp ports

last cedar
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I think it should be pretty solid then!

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If you are sold on their eco system

young sigil
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Yeah I have crashed my wifi network by updating the unifi ap firmware

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It's simple and integrated with what I have are the main reasons I'm thinking this. I do have an edge router and can barely configure it.

last cedar
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Should be good then!

young sigil
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Thanks for telling me what I wanted to hear ๐Ÿ™‚

last cedar
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Let others chime in

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I don't own any of their stuff, just read a lor

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Lot

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I think I am looking at Aruba 1930 stuff

young sigil
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I have heard most of the gripes here.

last cedar
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But I am starting on a blank canvas

clever mortar
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I've seen plenty of gripes about most platforms

last cedar
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Yes

clever mortar
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Unifi is popular, not perfect

young sigil
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Both true.

last cedar
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Smashing that upvote button there

clever mortar
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It has a bunch of issues, including with Apple devices

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For about the last 3 or 4 years they've had those issues

last cedar
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I mean

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Even ice cubes get bad reviews

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Nothing is perfect

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Apart from racoons

tidal bronze
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Unifi needs a little TLC the first few weeks if it's large network

young sigil
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Of the 48 ports I'll be patching about 2/3rds (32) with little expansion left to do. PoE cameras, AV gear, room outlets etc... flat network.

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Oh and WAPs.

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X4

wanton bobcat
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$700 for the 24 port pro E, my fiance is going to kill me.

young sigil
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Yeah it's also not the cheapest gear.

dull chasm
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work the local truck stop LOL

deft pewter
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$700 for the 24 port pro E, my fiance is going to kill me.
I'm sure he'll understand.

forest edge
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@dull chasm that's some fancy interwebs router you gots there

dull chasm
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yea i know borrowed it from cali

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still trying to figure out where the off/on button is

forest edge
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thats easy, you just pull the plug like how every thing else works

dull chasm
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but then my old ass has to crawl behind couch

hollow glacier
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@dull chasm that's a lot of association failures

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need moar APs

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or better placed APs, or clients that have better radios, or neighbors that dont succ up channels

tidal bronze
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@hollow glacier that's normal @dull chasm is not a very social person.

hollow glacier
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

tidal bronze
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Anyone seen a wall adapter/mount for new nest speakers ? Too lazy to design a print.

forest edge
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they don't have the little camera screw thing on the bottom?

tidal bronze
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Nada

forest edge
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welp they are trash, better luck next time

tidal bronze
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They sound good so ๐Ÿ˜†

forest edge
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they too new for the aftermarket crap to hit the market

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evven then you know the first crap to come out will suck lol

tidal bronze
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Yep. Guess I will have to draw something up. ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

forest edge
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why not just get a small floating shelf?

tidal bronze
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Wife's a minimalist so can't add jack

forest edge
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uh whats the diffrence lol

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they make small square floating shelfs, be only slightly longer than the damn speaker

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look better than some 3d printed hoist too lol

tidal bronze
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See that's the problem nothing on walls. Gotta go on wall outlet

forest edge
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well they do make a plug in outlet shelf.. it's one of those as seen on tv things

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not sure it's big enough tho, was made to hold like your cell phone etc

tidal bronze
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These things are heavy. Will have to go on with decora plate screws.

forest edge
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the shelf does use the screws of the outlet

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one whole piece that replaces the outlet cover

tidal bronze
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Nice. Link ?

forest edge
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uh, go go gadget google

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prob at walmart

tidal bronze
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Oh one made by Sanus

forest edge
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the official (original) is called Socket Shelf

tidal bronze
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Thanks for the tip. ๐Ÿ‘

forest edge
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yea, they show the little nest pucks or whateer on them so they gotta be atleast big enough for that

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if i do ever make it to cali i am so going hang crap on your walls lol

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"this looks like a good place for my jacket, fetch me a nail!"

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graffiti the whole place with pictures of norway

tidal bronze
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Lmao. That will be a bad day. She likes whole lot of empty spaces.

forest edge
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take her to an art gallery, break her fear of clutter!

tidal bronze
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There's like 6 or 7 paintings that's about it. I kinda like it. Anyways I am not into decorating stuff. She can flip the house up side down as long as she doesn't count the damn speakers. ๐Ÿคฃ

forest edge
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well see, you could inset the speakers and just put little holes to allow the sound through.. the wall would look completely empty from the side

tidal bronze
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These are for odds and ends like guest rooms/baths. We never even go in there but she makes a fuss if anything is added. Easier to keep the peace with outlet shelf. ๐Ÿ˜†

forest edge
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wait, you put crap in rooms you don't go in?

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lol

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you probably got some intercom thing setup too, not sleeping at your place.. don't need any random voice in the dark asking me if I'm sleeping ok

tidal bronze
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Yep got intercoms lmao

deft pewter
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Don't need an intercom for that. Just tiptoe into the guest room and whisper into their ears.

last cedar
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Buy a megaphone

clever mortar
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If your voice isn't loud enough to be heard in all corners of the house, you're not yelling right

forest edge
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you really think bruce wayne could be heard on the other side of the mansion?

clever mortar
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That's no longer a mere house ๐Ÿ˜›

forest edge
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neither is quads lol

clever mortar
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Also, didn't he have a butler... surely you send the butler to do the yelling

last cedar
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Every house needs a butler

forest edge
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need a ball washer

last cedar
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Actually

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I draw the line at a robot vacuum cleaner

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I subscribe to the "if I can't wipe my own ass, please kill me"

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I would go mad with a butler

forest edge
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oh dear lord the hallmark movie crap is starting back up

final acorn
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any recomandation regarding smart lock?

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wich works on mqtt/wifi please ๐Ÿ™‚

storm canyon
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Greetings all, so I am trying to connect a USB SSD drive to my Pi 4 with 4 Gig of RAM, has anyone done this before? I got it working with a 32 Gig USB drive but then I put the SSD Drive in it is just hitting the hard drive but not not responding to ping. Has anyone been through this process and had a good link to possible steps? I am not sure what I am doing wrong

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I am doing this so I can then put Home Assistant on it

dusky plank
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i canโ€˜t see anyone asking for support.
nah, donโ€˜t see any questions here.
only shittalk

clever mortar
forest edge
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so who's switching to spacex internet? lol

tidal bronze
night zodiac
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I think I was lucky enough to just snag a 3090

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hopefully it ships

quartz ether
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Waiting for the AMD cards. thinking an AMD CPU/GPU combo is going to be pretty insane.

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the 5950x at 799 is insane.

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The 3950x currently is $899 usd here

subtle pasture
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@forest edge It's basically just an Up Board with better pricing, and better configuration options for RAM / eMMC / built-in BT/Wifi, I'd expect it to perform about the same.

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Just watched ETA Prime's review of it. He seemed pretty positive about the whole thing.

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He ran a full install of Windows 10 and put it through its paces (YouTube, WebGL, Plex 4k video playback)

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And it's a fully HDCP compliant system, so no issues playing back protected content

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Lack of HDCP compliance bit me when I tried to use a RockPro64 (ARM RockChip RK3399 SoC) as an Android TV box. It refused to play any content from Netflix, Amazon, etc because of the lack of HDCP.

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The Intel Atom CPU on the Rock Pi X also has hardware AES-NI, which the Pi lacks (so using it as a VPN server will be significantly more performant). You could actually run PFSense / FreeNAS on the RockPi X, which is pretty wild.

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hah, he even got it playing Half Life 2. That's really not bad for what it is

hushed basalt
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How I feel when people talking about latest gen computer hardware

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90% of my gaming is done on a Xbox 360

hollow glacier
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you cant be that far behind @hushed basalt

forest edge
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Fast and Furious 10: Dom's "other" brother.

last cedar
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@quartz ether either a 3600 non X or a 5600X (unless there is a non X coming soon) is in my future. Need to upgrade from mu 2600K (yes that is not a typo)

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I am expecting the 5600X to cost around double what the 3600 costs today

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Which kinda sucks, but it is good business

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Actually. Costs 50% more give or take. So not as bad as I thought

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It is 3700X money. And I don't need the threads

hushed basalt
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@hollow glacier how so?

uneven pawn
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Hi all, if you were recommending a very simple home automation / smart home system for someone who wouldn't be able to use HA, what would you suggest? I need something for someone who has relatively limited tech skills...

Thanks!

forest edge
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no personal experience but maybe smartthings? pretty basic and simple as you can get. @uneven pawn

static schooner
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I think a lot of HA users fall in that category ๐Ÿ™‚

uneven pawn
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Yeah I was looking into that and wink

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@static schooner i certainly do! If it weren't for this discord, I would have failed out of HA a long time ago.

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It took a lot of time to understand many of the most basic concepts here.

last cedar
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Maybe just have more behind the scene automations? So no user interaction

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Not sure exactly what you mean but a lot of stuff can be acomplished with sensors and no interaction from the user, but ther person who is yamling it needs to be imaginative

clever mortar
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Depends too on the platforms/goals. A lot can be done with UI based integrations and #node-red-archived - at least until the Pi's SD card dies ๐Ÿ˜›

forest edge
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then you just give it mouth to mouth

clever mortar
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A prefer a funeral pyre

hearty depot
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youtube-dl got a DMCA takedown request

forest edge
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it will be back

dusky plank
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theres a PR hanging lose somewhere on GH and the code wonโ€˜t get lost because they cant delete the PR

odd kindle
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Their actual site with the latest version is up as well. And there's like 100 new repos on github with the code ๐Ÿ˜›

hearty depot
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just stupid -_-

dusky plank
hearty depot
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but the DMCA repo is quite fun,
its more like a shopping list

dusky plank
hearty depot
deft pewter
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I guess I'm not doing any work today if GH is down ๐Ÿคฃ

hearty depot
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I can setup a gitlab instance for you ๐Ÿ˜‰

odd kindle
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I did just that yesterday ๐Ÿ˜„

deft pewter
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That would be helpful if the rest of a 5000+ org wasn't using GitHub. They won't all switch just because I say so ๐Ÿ˜„

dusky plank
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works fine for me egain since i posted the likes

deft pewter
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I'm doing the sensible thing and refreshing the page only once every second to limit impact. Still no joy.

dusky plank
deft pewter
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I know we should all expect it but I still can't believe how shitty people are with DMCA takedowns.

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That code isn't illegal. Code is just knowledge. They should just ask that the owner doesn't share compiled copies.

light trout
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They used some not so legal materials in the tests for it if I'm not mistaken

dusky plank
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well to be fair they used copyright material explicit in their how-toโ€˜s so that was a bit shady but everything else ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

odd kindle
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It's a tricky field. They did things that were breaking laws with the code

deft pewter
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Sure, people may have used the code in ways that RIAA or whoever doesn't like. Doesn't make the code illegal.

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Fix the issues, don't take a sledgehammer to a nut.

odd kindle
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I agree, but since when are lawyers known to be reasonable?

deft pewter
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It's essentially censorship at that point. 'I don't like what that code says' is pretty much the same as 'I don't like what that book says'... and book burning wouldn't go down well.

dusky plank
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there will always pop up 10 alternatives if something technical on the internet is taken down, just have a look at silkroad

deft pewter
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Yeah. I'm glad there will always be alternatives.

odd kindle
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It's also far more tricky, since some rulings have shown that publishing torrent files are illegal. The act of making it possible to break the law by downloading/sharing the content is in itself illegal

deft pewter
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The UK courts had fun trying to block access to TPB a few years back. All it did was encourage the site owners to come up with automated mirrors each time one was blocked.

odd kindle
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I'm not saying I agree with those rulings, just that they exist

deft pewter
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If by publishing torrent files, you mean sharing copyrighted materials... yes, that should be illegal.

odd kindle
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And github have to follow it

deft pewter
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If you were just sharing the code for a hypothetical torrent client, there's no crime.

odd kindle
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@deft pewter I refer to TPB for example. They only hold the information about how to break copyright laws

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but that in itself is against the law

deft pewter
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Hell, torrents themselves aren't criminal. It's only the sharing of copyrighted material that is in many places.

odd kindle
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no, that's the point I'm making

deft pewter
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In the UK, for example, downloading copyrighted materials is technically okay. You're only breaking the law when you share.

odd kindle
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it's somewhat illegal to have a torrent site (I forget the name for it)

dusky plank
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facebook used to use torrents for deploying all over the world in minimum time

odd kindle
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as was shown in the TPB verdict

deft pewter
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I really doubt it's illegal. If it is, it's another sledgehammer, tbh.

odd kindle
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Obviously different laws apply in different countries tho

deft pewter
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The problem is that a site owner for something like TPB would be expected to manage the torrents and remote any copyrighted stuff, which they don't.

light trout
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Dell uses it for driver packs

odd kindle
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@deft pewter the founders of TPB got jail time

deft pewter
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Any number of large businesses use it to legitimately share files.

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@deft pewter the founders of TPB got jail time
@odd kindle I'm not oblivious to these things. I know what went down. But it's not as simple as 'torrents bad'.

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Torrents themselves are an amazing technology and have legitimate uses.

odd kindle
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They got jail time because they hadn't shown a willingness to remove copyrighted material from their site

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So, in a sense making it possible to download copyrighted material have been ruled illegal.

deft pewter
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You don't see other legal businesses being issued court orders and handed out jail time, do you? It's because they have the right to distribute whatever it is they're distributing.

odd kindle
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Much in the same way as youtube-dl makes it possible to download copyrighted material.

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I'm not saying I think this is ok

deft pewter
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They didn't 'make it possible'. They maintained a directory of links to copyrighted material.

odd kindle
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It's absolutley fucked up, BUT it's whats been argued in sweden

deft pewter
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uTorrent haven't been taken to court. They make it possible.

dusky plank
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thereโ€˜s even a GIT over torrents now

deft pewter
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This all comes back to my initial point that the code/tech isn't the problem. It's the way that some people use it.

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Censor the code and you're just preventing sharing of knowledge.

odd kindle
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I'm absolutely behind you on that

midnight adder
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encryption helps terrorists, now shut up and back to work, slave

dusky plank
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still thereโ€˜s pajd software out there which can record netflix/prime/hulu protected content even when the browser/player is in background.

paid commercial

deft pewter
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Are they on the DMCA shopping list yet?

dusky plank
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not that i know of, happily provide their software on websites

midnight adder
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if anyone's interested the export of 'cryptopgraphy' and united states of america is rather interesting but sick reading. start from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export_of_cryptography_from_the_United_States

Export of cryptographic technology and devices from the United States was severely restricted by U.S. law until 1992. The law gradually became eased until around 2000, but some restrictions still remain today.
Since World War II, many governments, including the U.S. and its NA...

deft pewter
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They really hate anything that protects an individual's privacy, huh?

midnight adder
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netscape even had different "usa version" with stronger/longer rsa keys

forest edge
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all governments are pretty close to the same in that regard, just some spend more time in the spotlight

midnight adder
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never let a technically illiterate boomer control your life

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vote for me

deft pewter
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Boomers are the problem, huh? I wish people would quit with the unnecessary tribalism.

midnight adder
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not really, not an american. don't but into that boomer crap, just blamed dumb politicians who can barely send an email

clever mortar
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The fault always lies with previous/future generations, didn't you know that @deft pewter ๐Ÿ˜‰

midnight adder
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take it as a slur, I apologize for all the boomers.
sincerely, 32 yr old boomer.

deft pewter
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Yeah, never one's own generation. We couldn't possibly be the problem.

hearty depot
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We ll be, just later,
|| Fuck, I just realised that I'm already old ||

deft pewter
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We're all the problem. None of us are perfect. Some people just like to have someone else to blame.

midnight adder
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Socrates told us

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โ€œThe children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.โ€

deft pewter
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Yep. Blaming the young 'uns for millennia

midnight adder
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well he was not wrong you know...

forest edge
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proper parental discipline has surely gone out the window lol

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but the boomers were properly disciplined just fyi

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well a good chunk of them anyway

dusky plank
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boomers are age >50 I believe?

hearty depot
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10-15 years after WWII

midnight adder
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i suppose, after ww yes

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or well, if we talk about america

dusky plank
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how's your holiday underknowledge?

hearty depot
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wรถrkwรถrkwรถrk and other stupid stuff.
Just try to setup a HA Keycloak

dusky plank
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what is a keycloak? keep on tworking!

hearty depot
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A single singon service (OpenID connect)

dusky plank
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oh, i made my bachelor thesis about these

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and implemented hydra recently

hearty depot
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https://www.keycloak.org/
Hydra is a parallelized network logon cracker?
to the other stupid stuff - created a USB windows - it boots even under ESXi just attach the USB device

dusky plank
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yes, that's also hydra

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hearty depot
dusky plank
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I'm fighting with PSD2 atm / banking 2.0

hearty depot
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uuuffff payment

deft pewter
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You work in financial software?

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We've been doing a ton of psd2 stuff too

dusky plank
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we provide services for different banks in europe/east europe yes

deft pewter
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Nice. I'm on the other side. Taking stuff from banks for use in software.

hearty depot
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f.up and get hated ๐Ÿ˜„
There is a very nice talk bout the N26 API from the 33c3 Shut Up and Take My Money!

dusky plank
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it's quite challenging sometimes especially when you have to take account for transactions in the millisecond areas

clear ferry
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millisecond areas

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what is this, transactions for ants ?

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๐Ÿค

dusky plank
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I think I'm still dreaming at this point, there's no way norwat is back

dusky plank
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you lost your roles, welcome back ant n00b

forest edge
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he's super scrub!

clear ferry
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Brb, I'm praying to the lord to bring them back for me so I can smite you

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๐Ÿ™

dusky plank
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have to regain some with those terabyte ram sticks

clear ferry
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/summon @clever mortar

clear ferry
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ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

dusky plank
clear ferry
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Good monday activity after being woken up at 05.00, updating a horizon manual farm and doing some datastore expansions

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slack times

forest edge
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@clear ferry so your internet went down and disconnected you from discord thus making you a non-roler huh

clear ferry
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yes, so it seems, my peasant internet must be to blame, all hail the american dream of capped internet

forest edge
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stable you mean

clear ferry
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Also, PSD2 would be interesting

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Would love to fire automations to blink my wifes office lights RED if I have a paypal transaction pulled from my account

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are you buying from ali again

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no honey

forest edge
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Would love to fire automations to blink my wifes office lights RED if I have a paypal transaction pulled from my account
@clear ferry completely doable

clear ferry
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that's what she said

forest edge
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๐Ÿค

clear ferry
clear ferry
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9๏ธโƒฃ 9๏ธโƒฃ9๏ธโƒฃ

dusky plank
#

i liked Theatre of Tragedy though

clear ferry
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Old school gothic metal is nice

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they turned into techno goth at some point

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which wasn't for me

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also none of this modern "music" bullshit that spews out of radios these days ๐Ÿคข

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I have standards

deft pewter
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I distinctly remember you saying you listen to grime.

clear ferry
deft pewter
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Ah, McGregor. A man of culture.

clear ferry
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You mean

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auch

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oh no, he is irish

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not a proper scotsman as I thought he was

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I've never heard him talk, just punch

deft pewter
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He punches a lot. Including random people and objects in the street.

clear ferry
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I feel that

deft pewter
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If meth were more common over here, I'd swear he was a methhead.

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He might be a decent fighter but he's an absolute prick in real life.

late gate
#

Does it exist any alternative to the raspikey https://thepihut.com/products/raspikey-plug-and-play-emmc-module-for-raspberry-pi that is cheaper? type plug and play emmc to sdcard

light trout
late gate
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but would I not have to put an emmc on that one, so the price goes up?

light trout
#

yes?

late gate
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21usd for that plus card vs 22 for the original. hmm. do I need more than 16gb for deconz

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just a thing to avoid sdcard failure on a sentral hub

light trout
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Use a VPN, for me it's 3.95$

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You are using a PRi as the central, so ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ
Maybe change that first, before looking at workarounds for that platform

late gate
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or am I wrong?

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whats wrong with a pi as a central? my ha server is a nuc, but cant have that too central, plus would like to run deconz directly to avoid the addon mess

light trout
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for anything other than a a single use, pi usually have issues

late gate
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for me it is for single use. zigbee hub

clear ferry
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eh, I run my pi on a UPS now, with a industrial SD card, just for running zigbee2mqtt

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I'll be fine for the next five years according to @clever mortar ๐Ÿคฃ

late gate
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you never know hehe

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I think the module is cheaper than having an ups in the living room :p

clever mortar
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Margin of error is only about 20 days ||on Venus||

clear ferry
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living room servers ๐Ÿคข

late gate
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not server

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but I have 3 floor house

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and want to put the dongles on lvl2

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thats living room

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cellar is a bit bad cause of concrete walls

clear ferry
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I put mine in the upstairs recreational room, it covers every part of my house

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and outside my house

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and is hidden behind a bookcase

late gate
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I just have the living room, but a pi in white case is acceptable :p

clear ferry
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use a pi UPS hat

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gets a few hours out of that

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runs off 2x 18650 batteries

dusky plank
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or, you kow, make that thing read only? depends on your use but works for me in 2 pis

clear ferry
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awww yeah, read my sd card like a good little pi

dusky plank
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one has a defect card by now, can't write anymore. runs fine booting read only since a year ๐Ÿ˜‚ poor little bugger doesn't even have a proper psu

late gate
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I got a hat, but im not sure why make it more complicated if it works just as fine with a emmc

last plaza
#

@clear ferry I got ton of 18650s. If I can make the ups for pi, that would be awesome.

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I want to be able to charge and use it as a power source if needed.

clear ferry
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yes I bought a UPS hat for my pi

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haven't had time to install it yet

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Similar to this one

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haven't had time to install it yet

late gate
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got dozen of those hats lol

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and batteries

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never used them

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typical browse at 4am and hey good to have

forest edge
#

guess i'll be waiting alittle longer before going down the usb boot path

clear ferry
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Imagine running on proper hardware ๐Ÿค”

dusky plank
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supervised intensifies

clear ferry
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๐Ÿคข

forest edge
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your idea of proper predates the dinosaurs

late gate
#

ok let me get your thoughts; another home automation competitor selling a PRO version made last year of their hub with 1GB ram and a DUAL core A9 ARM cpu for over 400 bucks. Do anyone agree that thats a rip off to sell something that cant even be compared to a pi in hardware at that price and those low specs? People say oh you cant compare those specs and a pi

clear ferry
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All the consumer ones are rip-off

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That might die in a year

late gate
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yeah, but seriously put an A9 in a Pro unit for 400?

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I guess you know what device im talking about

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here in norway that device has made so much traction and everyone loves it, and everytime I say its so underpowered nobody listens

clear ferry
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Homey?

late gate
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yeah

clear ferry
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Had a friend ask me about home automation, gave him a full recipe for HA, then he bought a homey

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But he is also a technical idiot, although he thinks himself very technically adept

late gate
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I tried homey

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for what its worth its nice looking, got the sensors, got really good automation

clear ferry
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He bought the pro one which was $500 at the time

late gate
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but no ethernet (yay wifi and zigbee)

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and you have to put in pause in automations for the cpu to catch up

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it just have zigbee 1 though and dont really route, so all devices needs to be close to the homey

clear ferry
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๐Ÿคข ๐Ÿคข ๐Ÿคข ๐Ÿคข

late gate
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and lets not talk about zwave. you need to use an extension cord and hold it 10cm from the device for it to pair

clear ferry
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Gr8 product

late gate
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yeah and 500 bucks

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and you are not allowed to backup it

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not even migrate to new

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if it crash its all from scratch

late gate
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well you can pay now for a storage backup

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in the cloud

clear ferry
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๐Ÿคข

late gate
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but no local backup or export

clear ferry
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So extortion

late gate
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it could be a good product though

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high WAF

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but for 500 bucks I expect zb3, proper zwave, intel i3 or higher cpu and LOCAL BACKUP

clear ferry
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My wife creates her own VMs, we have different wafs

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๐Ÿคฃ

late gate
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my WAF is if a light doesnt work its hell

clear ferry
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She also knows more code then I do

dusky plank
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404 waifu not found

late gate
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then if something is interessting oh then its high demands from the WAF

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like cant you make a schedule for this and that where I can change the schedule visually

clear ferry
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Wife tells me which smart lights she wants

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And how they should work

late gate
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im still in the naughty corner cause I have not put up the outside cameras

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and I say its cold, its raining and im not going to drag cat6 cables in the rain to the garage, make electric and be misrable for those cameras

clear ferry
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Let her do it

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All wives should know how to terminate cat6

late gate
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I have to terminate all ones here. the previous owner didnt do it properly

forest edge
#

this is the first time I have ran anything else other than HA and any other sdcard than the original on my RPI4 and all just to update the eeprom lol

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i'm going to dump the other card back in it after this and everything will take a crap lmao

shut raptor
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Morning fellas. Im doing a research project in college on cloud computering and im doing a section on iot products being locked into a cloud env. Just wondering was there a product that the company went out of business or changed ownership resulting in the devices completly useless?

shy comet
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@shut raptor Wink is one i think

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theres another one called like Revolv or something

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it was mentioned on reddit

shut raptor
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but that was only if you didnt use their subscription right?

shy comet
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no i think they closed down didnt they?

clear ferry
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Multiple thermostat companies over the years

shy comet
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plantlink

shut raptor
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I didnt realize wink shut down

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last I remember, they changed to a sub model

shy comet
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we had an entire channel dedicated to the migration from wink lol

wet pilot
#

are they completely gone now?

shy comet
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no they are subscription only now

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in all honesty i would say even that would qualify as part of your project

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users who bought into something that then get a dead device if they dont fork up money monthly

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same thing in reality

shut raptor
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Oh yeah its def in there

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lol

shy comet
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not sure if IFTTT would qualify there

shut raptor
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I just couldnt think if there was a company that completly shutdown leaving the device fit for the trash

shy comet
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go on reddit

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/r/homeautomation

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youll find every company that did that listed there

shut raptor
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oh sweet okay thanks

shy comet
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you can probably search by "another one bites the dust" ๐Ÿ˜‚

shut raptor
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@shy comet how you been btw. Staying indoors? lol

shy comet
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yup staying indoor, aint seen anyone lol

shut raptor
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true that i hear ya

shy comet
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been good, pretty busy adding stuff to the official android app ๐Ÿ˜›

shut raptor
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Yeah thats great dude, its really coming along

shy comet
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yea gotta keep busy ๐Ÿ™‚

shut raptor
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yeah im hella busy, but having fun

hollow glacier
#

@shut raptor ๐Ÿ‘‹

shut raptor
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Oh hey dude

hollow glacier
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i got on the hass train a while back ๐Ÿ˜›

shut raptor
#

about time!

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๐Ÿ™‚

forest edge
#

whew! all booted back up and running lol

shy comet
#

@forest edge what did you mess up? ๐Ÿ˜›

forest edge
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@shy comet was upgrading the eeprom on the rpi lol

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my 128 sdcard has been showing some signs of wear lately so was afraid swapping it it around would cause me a headache but thankfully it didn't

shy comet
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oh lol

last cedar
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Oh, my fav raw meat eater!

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How goes it?

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Also, Intel 320 SSD 40GB should cover boot duties for TrueNAS, Peoxmox, Opnsense etc right?

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Assuming the nand is healthy

dusky plank
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have you been dumpster diving again?

last cedar
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Perhaps

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My colleague has 6 of them. I said I would give him 500 sek for them and he was happy

dusky plank
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google image results for 'sek' look appropriate

forest edge
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everyone and their mother has decided to call today while I decided to work on my rpi lol

hollow glacier
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have you tried not answering

forest edge
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I special ordered a fridge for my mother back in june through samsung and every month lowes calls me to tell me that samsung told them they are pushing it back a month, just got pushed to end of Nov now lol damn thing will be paid off before it ever reaches the states

hollow glacier
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good sons dont let mom's shop on layaway

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๐Ÿ˜›

forest edge
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don't think layaway is even a thing anymore

hollow glacier
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heh

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there are definitely people who are targetted for layaway still

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tbh i've heard way too much negative stuff about samsung fridge/washer/dryer/dishwasher that i wouldn't touch them

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shitty control boards that cant be serviced, techs showing up late, not knowing what they're doing, not having parts

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etc etc etc etc

last cedar
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@dusky plank it is the Swedish currency!

dusky plank
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No, it's SonderEinsatzKommando! ๐Ÿ”ซ

forest edge
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tbh i've heard way too much negative stuff about samsung fridge/washer/dryer/dishwasher that i wouldn't touch them
@hollow glacier they ALL have their cons. the trick is to not get evvery bell and whistle

hollow glacier
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gotcha

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i will keep that in mind

clear ferry
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@last cedar boot duties for truenas should suffice with 2x usb in mirror, but I run 2xsas

last cedar
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Bosch stuff has been invcredibly solid and reliable for me

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Have a zeolith dishwasher and a washing machine. Washer is at least 8 years old.

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Not very connected or advanced, but they just run

clear ferry
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Aye, sold my Bosch washer and dryer after 11 years

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Nothing wrong with it, just needed bigger for baby stuff

subtle pasture
#

Bosch washer / dryer / dishwasher here, no complaints

inner vault
#

โค๏ธ my Bosch dishwasher, will probably go for a Bosch washer and dryer when we need to replace them, same for fridge and stove

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old house had a bosch oven and dishwasher that we sold with the place, got a new bosch dishwasher at the new place, but went with a GE oven because we got a great deal on a high end used one. Have regreted not just spenging more and getting a new bosch oven, the GE sucks.

hollow glacier
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So Bosch is king ๐Ÿ‘‘

inner vault
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curently have a samsung fridge, it's fine except the plastic holding the door shelves on chipped and the shelve things routinely pop off if you (or a toddler) close the doors too fast

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will replace it with a bosch when I get frustrated enough or have spare cash lol

clear ferry
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I replaced my Bosch washer dryer with Samsung ones, the washer was doa so I got s free upgrade to a Siemens one that has been rock solid

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The dryer is quite good, but already had two warranty repairs on it in two years

hollow glacier
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i wouldnt call two repairs that early on quite good

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and DOA washer.. damn that's some bad luck

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or bad products :x

clear ferry
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Well, five year default warranty

bitter pawn
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meh

clear ferry
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Anything fixed for free, after three fixes of the same problem within five years, new product or full refund

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Which is how I also just replaced my 4.5 year old HDDs with new ones ๐Ÿคฃ

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Even got an upgrade from 4tb to 6tb

bitter pawn
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i have a bosch dishwasher. thing is amazeballs

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the GE stove i have is pretty damn good though

forest edge
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lol my rpi4 and hdd are both held on the wall by corkboard tacks lol

inner vault
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this one is like a $3k GE Cafe stove, but even on non-convection it's got a fan that's louder than my Bosch dishwasher lol

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the oven temp is inconsistent, and the second oven drawer is borderline useless =\

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one burner is consistently not as hot as others

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but it's also an electric glasstop, which kind of inherantly sucks, even the bosch one I had before

fiery sorrel
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hello !
For those who were there, you were right ! i did broke the new harddrive without fixing the old one ... YET !
I am not giving up

mild dome
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Not sure if this belongs in a more specific channel... but I canโ€™t for the life of me figure out how to edit/remove the little circles at the top of my dashboard. Am I just overlooking something in the app or is there something specific I need to do? I havenโ€™t been able to find any conclusion so far through searching but I may just not have the right search term...

fiery sorrel
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those are called badge, look intor the pen shape icone next to the page name

mild dome
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Ok. That was it. And noted. Thanks!

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Been looking forever and knew I was just probably not looking in the right place.

fiery sorrel
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you can also install ublock origine, right click, block element ... ๐Ÿ˜

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hey ! i'm sure it work @dusky plank

clear ferry
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โ›น๏ธ โ›น๏ธโ€โ™€๏ธ

fiery sorrel
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there is also the black tape on the screen ... i mean

but I canโ€™t for the life of me figure out how to edit/remove the little circles at the top of my dashboard.
If my life where on the line, i'll get creatif

dusky plank
fiery sorrel
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i would love a life without one right now

fiery sorrel
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if i had an issue with tasmota, and noone awake that can help me at this time on there discord (purely hypothetical ;) ) what would be the best chan ? device ? integrations ? none just get out of here :P ?

clever mortar
fiery sorrel
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oki thank

empty snow
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random question; is there a way to differentiate between an action within HASS (turning a light on) and physically hitting a switch? ie I want an automation to turn off all lights when I hit the off button in my office. However sometimes I use HASS to turn off the light and it ends up turning all lights off on me

modest hollow
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Any advice to buy a good access point capable 300mbs? Isp has upgraded from 100 to 300mbs, my lan is gigabit, but have old 100mbs access points

clever mortar
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Most AC or AX should do

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The question is, are your devices capable ๐Ÿ˜‰

subtle pasture
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I'm partial to Aruba IAPs myself. They can be had pretty cheap on ebay, and they'll do Wireless AC

modest hollow
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Some of them are, what are good AP? A friend has all new with unifi, but has bad speeds

clever mortar
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I recently got some ZenWiFi AC units, and I easily exceed 300 Mb/s from my laptop

modest hollow
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Asus!?

subtle pasture
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Oof, Aruba stuff is up in price right now. The WAP I bought for $180 a few months ago is $965 now

modest hollow
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My main priority are wifi cameras connected to AP

last cedar
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@subtle pasture ouch!

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The 1930 stuff is cheap here in Sweden atm

gray cedar
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Good Evening all

dull chasm
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@modest hollow unifi is not slow I have 200x12 and this WiFi on iPhone

modest hollow
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Will asus rt-ac5300 be good as AP?

dull chasm
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i have one in a box ....had to reboot weekly and anything over 50 clients brings it to its knees ...but it does have good range

modest hollow
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I have deco e4 now, i thinks it is struggling, because cpu load is 99

dull chasm
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that would be a good hint ๐Ÿ˜‰

storm summit
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I'd vote the ruckus stuff on ebay as the best bang for the buck.

modest hollow
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What stuff that is fast avalible in eu? Asus, unifi, linksys, tplink?

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And what is best for wireless ip cameras

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One is selling thes Asus RT-AC5300 for 100โ‚ฌ

light trout
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One that works whithin your budget and expectations

storm summit
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heh

dull chasm
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@light trout those are usually at odds with each other

light trout
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Yup :/

modest hollow
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What router, ap do you all use?

dull chasm
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i want a shiny red car from Maranello ....expectations are good ...budget not so much

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all unifi for me

storm summit
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pfsense/ruckus

dull chasm
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lame

storm summit
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lol

dull chasm
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so i had to get a shiny new red truck from detriot

clear ferry
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Opnsense crew representing

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Y'all

storm summit
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vasiley: lame

dull chasm
wind pelican
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I use PFSense for a router, wireless whatever I can get my hands on at the time. Right now I'm using an RT-AC5300 with ddwrt on it, but i'm probably going to switch once i can buy a new AP

storm summit
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That truck needs a unifi logo

dull chasm
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with 400bhp ....hell yea

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heres your sign

clear ferry
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Gotta have atleast 400 to make that thing move at the speed limit

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Yuge vehicle y'all

dull chasm
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nah i can haul the little smart cars ...tow 12k and do the speed limit

modest hollow
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@wind pelican so not good router?

wind pelican
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PFSense is good

modest hollow
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@dull chasm looking for unifi long range ap

clear ferry
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Pfsense is stable but stale

storm summit
wind pelican
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You're right: it's stable.

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I'm not looking to break my network everytime i want to mess with something

storm summit
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needs to be white

dull chasm
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lol

subtle pasture
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I'll put in another vote for pfSense

last dirge
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new Borat movie's pretty hilarious

shy comet
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@last dirge it was pretty good lol, some parts were a lil tough to watch but other parts were simply amazing

last dirge
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I used to wonder how they got people to believe it but recently...

shy comet
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the cabin part was amazing lol

last dirge
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"people can't be this dumb"

shy comet
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cant believe they pulled that off

last dirge
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I'm just a little over halfway

shy comet
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oh ok

last dirge
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was the CPAC stuff real?

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the shots were really choppy, was hard to tell

shy comet
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yea i remember hearing about something like that

last dirge
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lol

shy comet
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they did it at the right time

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with all of covid and parts reopening and waht not

last dirge
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a lot of this is filmed in/around Atlanta

shy comet
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the shit they get people to say and do

last dirge
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I wanna hang with these jewish ladies

shy comet
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lol the law suit ones?

last dirge
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the ones at the synagogue

shy comet
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after you watch the movie catch up on teh current afairs about it so i dont spoil it lol

last dirge
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YOU HAVE ONIONS IN THIS HOUSE?!?

forest edge
tidal bronze
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@last dirge @shy comet pretty good indeed. Onions LMAO

shy comet
last cedar
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Back on router talk, check out opnsense

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Similar to pfsense, IMO UI is better. Major con is smaller user base, less likely to get help. You might love it.

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Been running at home for over a year with no issues

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In fact closer to 18 months

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Think I rebooted it once or twice in that time.it just chugs along

forest edge
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๐Ÿฆ—

dusky plank
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it's snowing ๐ŸŒจ๏ธ

clear ferry
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We had one day of snow last week

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So I changed tires

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And now it's only raining

last cedar
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You were conned

clear ferry
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๐Ÿค•

hushed basalt
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Laughs in blistering summer

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It was summer yesterday

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now it's spring

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tomorrow it'll probably be summer again

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Your silly euro seasons mean nothing to us

clear ferry
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Now I'm going to eat a waffle and go to the dentist to replace one of my crowns

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๐Ÿคฃ

hushed basalt
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Have you tried not being a Norwegian

clear ferry
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Finally someone else used that

dusky plank
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will be a good winter, less tourists, more slope for me

clear ferry
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Northern Norway tourist industry will probably be wrecked

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No aurora tourism

forest edge
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Finally someone else used that
@clear ferry who would use that? there's only two of you on the entire internet lol

dusky plank
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why th does my windows laptop wake my linux tablet regularly? this is so annoying

forest edge
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to ask it why the chicken crossed the road obviously

light trout
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don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen

clear ferry
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Temporary crown in place, permanent one tomorrow, stuff is fast when using 3d scanners and printing

low harness
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We live in The Future.

clear ferry
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Give me crack and anal sex, take the only tree that is left, and stuff it up the hole in your culture

forest edge
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sure it helps that you only have like one tooth lol

clear ferry
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Don't confuse me for your wife, we aren't that chummy yet

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๐Ÿ†

forest edge
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there is no possible way to make that confusion. she doesn't look like a yak, smell like one or look to have eaten 40 of them

clear ferry
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โ›น๏ธ โ›น๏ธ โ›น๏ธ

forest edge
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the universal aspect of snapshots is just awesome

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noticed the rpi runs slightly cooler on external drive as well

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just a few degrees on average but still

clear ferry
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Reminds me, I need to set up some rest sensors for every spinning rust drive I have in my freenas box to see trends

forest edge
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why

clear ferry
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because I enjoy data

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๐Ÿคฃ

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12 rust drives and 2 SSDs in there now

forest edge
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because I enjoy data
@clear ferry you should probably seek professional help with that problem

last plaza
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Data is the new dollar

hearty depot
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What you ll pay me to host my nextcloud on your PC?

tame sand
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@forest edge you setup a RPi with an SSD?

forest edge
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ssd? no it's an old hdd out of my dell inspire netbook

tame sand
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is it faster then a sd-card?

clear ferry
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anything will be faster and more reliable than a SD card

tame sand
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or do you notice a performance increase? is more what i wanted to ask

forest edge
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not a big increase, but yea

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the sdcard reader on the rpi4 is a mass improvement over the earlier pi's so they weren't slow lol

tame sand
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yep. i was running rpi3b+ and now rpi4-4g with a quick sd-card and the performance increased alot.

clear ferry
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noice, looks like I'll be doing training on 200Gbps and NVMe now

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that'll be fun

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80Gbps storage transfer speeds

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and 10PB per 42U

forest edge
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you certainly would be the last person i would want to get lost in the wilderness with

clear ferry
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Psh, I know how to shoot a shotgun and I know how to make a fire in the wild, you'll be fine

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anyway we have 99% mobile coverage in norway, just call for an airlift

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they won't even charge you a heinous amount to be rescued

forest edge
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turn around and you'll be trying to sales pitch some bear on HPE

clear ferry
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You wouldn't download a bear

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Well actually I would

tame sand
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noice, looks like I'll be doing training on 200Gbps and NVMe now
@clear ferry yikes

tame sand
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what do you need these speeds for actually?

clear ferry
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HPC

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Well, 100Gbit is pretty normal now in regular DCs anyway

tame sand
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so DCs it is

clear ferry
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Well, anything else is no fun

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Well PODs are pretty cool too

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when you need a quick temp DC, or just put a DC on the roof of your office

tame sand
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google says pods = Portable On Demand Storage

clear ferry
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They appear to have changed name within the last year to MDC

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Pretty cool when you need to truck in a secondary datacenter for migration

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or into a war zone

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or just put it on the top of the office because your basement DCs are full

tame sand
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just airdrop a DC... classic

clear ferry
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Can do that too

dark oasis
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I just connected HA with conbee, exposing only the devices that I want and setting the specific entities_id with customize and the lights group names with emulated hue

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This is awesome

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The lights works the same as they did with Alexa but I am way happier

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Now I can throw the philips hue bridge. One device less, less clutter

clear ferry
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it's been so quiet an nice for weeks now, and suddenly my calendar is full until the middle of november now ๐Ÿคฃ

deft pewter
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At least November is months away

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Wait... where'd the rest of the year go?

clear ferry
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Exactly

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I think I still have 42 vacation days left

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Need to check if I have any comp time avaliable, need to get rid of that soon

forest edge
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this time you can go directly to @scenic radish and you two can cough in sync

clear ferry
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Oh wow, I have 27 hours of comp time

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need to plug that in somewhere

forest edge
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@scenic radish has stamped his X approval to the idea

clear ferry
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there we go @forest edge

hearty depot
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uff.. I should chack that too.. almost burned my fingers where I last touched the disks

clear ferry
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that... is interesting

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I've never had a disk be that hot, and I've installed and replaced probably somewhere between 50-80.000 drives in the last 10 years ๐Ÿคฃ

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I had a PSU that burned me, but the fan was stopped and it was still delivering power for some reason

forest edge
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@clear ferry and what you gonna do with this information? pipe it into grafana and make a fancy chart that you can scroll through to see if your drink coasters run warmer or cooler during diffrent parts of the day?

clear ferry
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or create automations that give me notifications when a trend is going upwards x for y time

forest edge
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or make it trigger a blower fan with a kazoo duct tape to the end

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we have reached thermal max! ๐ŸŽ‰

clear ferry
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noice, looks like we are going to deploy a 200k core funtime in australia too @hushed basalt

trail forge
#

I'm looking for a RFID reader that can read this card with an ESP32 and ESPHome. I tried a RDM6300, however it would not read it. Any help would be much appreciated.

last cedar
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What is "in" the card?

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Protocol wise

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Does the reader read other cards?

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@trail forge

trail forge
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@last cedar i did not have an other types of cards to try with the RDM6300, here is all i can find so far on the cards

hearty depot
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#diy-archived would be the right place
but the RDM6300 is 125KHz reader. that should be working well for your card. (when it is a 125KHz one)
PN532 for example can only read 13.56MHz cards

dusky plank
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wow, the raspbberypi org servers are amazingly slow ๐Ÿ˜‚ torrents ftw

deft pewter
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Nooooo, they're illegal.

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Believe it or not... prison.

subtle pasture
clear ferry
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@dusky plank they are probably hosted on pi's

subtle pasture
#

Har

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Remember when Blizzard started using torrents to distribute WoW updates?

deft pewter
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Illegal!

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Did they revert to direct downloads? I don't really pay much attention to the traffic, I only care that it downloads.

subtle pasture
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I mean, ISPs at the time certainly tried to say that, but the protocol itself is perfectly legal, and plenty of services today use it

deft pewter
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Yeah, it's legit. I'm all for it.

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Someone yesterday was trying to say how anyone that facilitates torrents is breaking the law.

subtle pasture
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Blizzard's download client is still based on bittorrent tech

clear ferry
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I installed a 740 node HPC cluster with bittorrent in 2007, if memory serves right it took 35 minutes

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Which was awzm

subtle pasture
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@deft pewter That's some weird propaganda to be spreading

subtle pasture
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By that logic, any use of any protocol is breaking the law, because they can all be used maliciously by malicious actors

deft pewter
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I think they just misunderstand the law. They were claiming that TPB is illegal because it uses torrents. They missed the point that it's illegal because it willingly encourages the sharing of copyrighted materials.

subtle pasture
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TPB is still an interesting legal gray area, because they literally host nothing

deft pewter
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It all stemmed from a discussion about the DMCA takedown of that YouTube ripper tool. The code isn't illegal, the usage of the tool might be.

subtle pasture
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They don't even host .torrent files, they just have magnet links to everything

deft pewter
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Yeah, doesn't stop people chasing TPB though.

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I love how TPB has become a hydra now ๐Ÿ˜„

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Oh, you want to ban a host? Here's 12 more.

subtle pasture
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e'yup, it's an impossible game of whack-a-mole

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They experimented with host TPB on bittorrent, at one point

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Distributed hosting

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Anyone accessing the site would also participate in the swarm that keeps the site alive, making it skynet levels of impossible to take down

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I don't think they ever figured out how to handle dynamic content with that model, though

inner vault
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this is my favourite part of the youtube-dl thing

subtle pasture
#

omegalul

hearty depot
deft pewter
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That GitHub trolling is amazing.

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That's the YouTube DL tool in image format ๐Ÿ˜„

inner vault
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it's also in NPM now haha

deft pewter
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Yeah, I love that a security flaw they refused to fix lets people attach it to other repos.