#the-water-cooler | Home Assistant | Page 578

forest edge Aug 13, 2020, 8:15 AM

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Just buy an rgbcww if you want cct

midnight adder Aug 13, 2020, 9:28 AM

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I just realized that you can port Chrome extensions to Firefox with barely any modifications.

dull chasm Aug 13, 2020, 10:11 AM

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@tidal bronze yea I listened to several models and found they where best bang for buck of course rf7iii beats it but 1700 a piece

midnight adder Aug 13, 2020, 10:14 AM

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whats your guess is the diffrence between k/s & kb/s

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|| shit.. || that was ma managment network and apperantly there is missing a 0

dusky plank Aug 13, 2020, 10:37 AM

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@midnight adder a bit

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 1:59 PM

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@hushed basalt decent company for lens filters?

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looking for some ND straight and gradient, CPL

hushed basalt Aug 13, 2020, 2:03 PM

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We always used tiffen and schneider

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but they're pricey

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NiSi is probably best filters at best price

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 2:04 PM

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holy sheet

hushed basalt Aug 13, 2020, 2:04 PM

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hehe

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 2:05 PM

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https://smile.amazon.com/NiSi-ND-Vario-Pro-Nano-Filter/dp/B085G4SNPH/ref=sr_1_36?dchild=1&keywords=nisi+filter&qid=1597327434&sr=8-36

rare condor Aug 13, 2020, 2:05 PM

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@hushed basalt Did you watch that new ABC doco by Chaser guy on climate change and energy efficiency?

hushed basalt Aug 13, 2020, 2:05 PM

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You'd need a filter holder to do gradients though

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Nah I never watch ABC

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I'm dirty on ABC

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 2:05 PM

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all of the gradients I've seen are static, not adjustable

hushed basalt Aug 13, 2020, 2:05 PM

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They're made to be put in a holder and moved up and down

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 2:06 PM

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you can just rotate them

rare condor Aug 13, 2020, 2:06 PM

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really, did the abc touch you wrong?

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 2:06 PM

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but I'm looking at cheap scre-on stuff

hushed basalt Aug 13, 2020, 2:06 PM

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A circular gradient is pretty useless

rare condor Aug 13, 2020, 2:06 PM

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😛

hushed basalt Aug 13, 2020, 2:06 PM

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ABC is stacked hard with LNP stooges, but that's /pol

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Good filters are expensive

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Crap filters will turn your expensive lens into crappy kit lenses

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NiSi is the cheap brand 😄

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 2:09 PM

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"cheap"

rare condor Aug 13, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Fight For Planet A: Our Climate Challenge is the doc, it goes after Chevron and gas/coal. Its worth a watch

hushed basalt Aug 13, 2020, 2:11 PM

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I should watch it

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But I know it'll just make me more frustrated

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I'm not the people they need to convince,

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@last dirge I'd go with fixed ND's if you want good but cheap

rare condor Aug 13, 2020, 2:13 PM

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It is frustrating, although family was using 100kwh per day, pool heating and halogen lights and were just like meh.

hushed basalt Aug 13, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Get one or two fixed NDs in the largest mm you need

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then get step down rings

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Variable NDs have a lot of compromises I'd avoid them for stills

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 2:13 PM

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@hushed basalt 3 static NDs cost more than that variable ND

hushed basalt Aug 13, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Yeah but at least you can use a polariser with them

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And you don't have two planes of glass to worry about refracting and internal reflections

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And a better neutral density across the spectrum

urban wadi Aug 13, 2020, 2:23 PM

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Man its weird that editing scenes in the UI actually turns on/off devices while editing

dusky plank Aug 13, 2020, 2:30 PM

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yeah it freaked me out too at first 😄

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 2:43 PM

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@hushed basalt so is there any reason I shouldn't get gigantic filters and just use adapters for my other cameras?

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ignoring lens hood fitment and all that

dusky plank Aug 13, 2020, 3:19 PM

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https://bigmacky.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/sigma_lens_1.jpg

steel crag Aug 13, 2020, 3:33 PM

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LMFAO "introducing our new lens, the Hubble."

warm horizon Aug 13, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Bruh

steel crag Aug 13, 2020, 3:58 PM

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that moment when you realize how old the firmware is on your sonoff touches, then I realized (read: remembered) why I didn't do this PITA thing

steel crag Aug 13, 2020, 4:25 PM

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2 down 2 to go

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now if only I could figure out why one harmony hub shows up with a uniqueID and the other 2 don't that'd be great

wide radish Aug 13, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Hey guys, I just finish my floor plan for home assistant and finally did it

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I want to share my progress and your thoughts on it

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📎 Screenshot_20200813-102941_Home_Assistant.jpg

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Pig

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lol

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yellow running man = motion?

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you could probably get crafty and have the doors change color based on state instead of having a secondary icon too

static schooner Aug 13, 2020, 4:43 PM

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yeah, that's the one compromise that I see

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 4:43 PM

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SLOWLY

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📎 unknown.png

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you could also have the room name change colors for motion instead of showing the running man

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or do an overlay of the floor of the room and have that change when there's motion

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I think back when I was using floorplan I did that

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and to simplify the badges you could use avatars instead of labels

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otherwise, it looks great, what did you use to draw it?

low harness Aug 13, 2020, 5:19 PM

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I'm a little woozy, but I shouldn't get caught.

📎 image0.jpg

steel crag Aug 13, 2020, 5:20 PM

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I want to share my progress and your thoughts on it
@wide radish what did you use to make it? I want to do something similar

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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when I did mine I used MagicPlan, IIRC

wintry crater Aug 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 5:31 PM

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isn't that low ABC for tequila?

wintry crater Aug 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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What's abc

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😗

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Alcohol By Content

wintry crater Aug 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Oh

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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that's what, 72 proof?

static schooner Aug 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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sometimes call "ABV"

wintry crater Aug 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Silver is mild one

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 5:33 PM

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76

wintry crater Aug 13, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Silver is for weaksauce like me

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😄

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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cuervo silver is 100 proof

orchid rose Aug 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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38% is probably the low limit to sell it as tequila. Water is cheaper so the cheap stuff tends to be around that. Same goes for vodka, gin, whisky etc

wide radish Aug 13, 2020, 5:51 PM

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@steel crag I use dwg fast view and the photo editor of my phone

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@last dirge yea my brother nickname is pig

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 5:52 PM

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porque no cerdo?

static schooner Aug 13, 2020, 5:53 PM

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sounds more like a fraternity house 🙂

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 5:53 PM

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an animal house, if you will

wide radish Aug 13, 2020, 5:54 PM

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@last dirge I only use my phone, but I have the original floor plan for my house so, I erase a lot of stuff to make it clean and add the text on my phone photo editor, evething on Android

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Blutarski, zero point zero

steel crag Aug 13, 2020, 6:09 PM

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oh I don't have a digital copy of my floor plan, and I don't think I have a hard copy anymore

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 6:23 PM

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look at MagicPlan

wintry crater Aug 13, 2020, 6:24 PM

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great app

steel crag Aug 13, 2020, 6:25 PM

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that looks really neat

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I'll try it out

balmy spire Aug 13, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Would any sir be kind enough to share his Yeelight flows? I am absolutely barbaric when it comes to anything related to art and so I can't make any good ones (

steel crag Aug 13, 2020, 6:47 PM

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I'm either really dumb or doing something really dumb. Magic plan is making my rooms look nothing like they are LOL

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 6:48 PM

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did you do the setup?

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should make you take pictures of stuff a certain distance away

steel crag Aug 13, 2020, 6:48 PM

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did you do the setup?
@last dirge I tried to scan a room and it ended up not even being a rectangle

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 6:49 PM

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is it an Android phone?

steel crag Aug 13, 2020, 6:49 PM

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oh it didn't ask me to do that, and yes Android

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 6:49 PM

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have Sky Map?

steel crag Aug 13, 2020, 6:49 PM

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no

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 6:49 PM

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I don't know of any other apps that report the magnetometer calibration

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if you download that it'll tell you if your magnetometer is out of whack and walk you through recalibrating it

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were you holding the phone at the same level or moving it around?

steel crag Aug 13, 2020, 6:53 PM

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were you holding the phone at the same level or moving it around?
@last dirge well I had to move it around as it asked to be pointed at my feet, then moved in circles, then moved up for height

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 6:53 PM

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I mean before

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you should hold it at the same level regardless of what you're doing

steel crag Aug 13, 2020, 6:53 PM

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oh, well I can try it again

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 6:53 PM

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so when you're pointing it up or down it should be like it's on a tripod and you're just tilting it

steel crag Aug 13, 2020, 6:54 PM

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well I certainly didn't do this

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 6:54 PM

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when you were taking pictures, was it drawing the lines on the floor?

steel crag Aug 13, 2020, 6:54 PM

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but the corners that should be 90deg were WAY off

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LOL

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yes it drew lines

last dirge Aug 13, 2020, 7:28 PM

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did it do any better after your calibration?

steel crag Aug 13, 2020, 7:36 PM

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well I just played with making a room without the camera and it worked, I haven't recalibrated yet... got sidetracked

midnight adder Aug 13, 2020, 9:30 PM

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yo dafuq is happening between epic games and apple

static schooner Aug 13, 2020, 9:58 PM

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a Battle Royale long in the making

deft pewter Aug 13, 2020, 10:01 PM

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There can be only one!

steel crag Aug 13, 2020, 10:34 PM

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There can be only one!
@deft pewter here were are, born to be free, we're the princes of the universe

hushed basalt Aug 13, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Everything in Australia is max 80 proof

steel crag Aug 13, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Everything in Australia is max 80 proof
@hushed basalt that would not go down well here

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100proof is commonplace and we also sell 151 and 180 proof

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LOL

hushed basalt Aug 13, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Oofph

deft pewter Aug 13, 2020, 10:36 PM

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180? Isn't that like 90ABV?

hushed basalt Aug 13, 2020, 10:36 PM

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It's expensive to get drunk off spirits

steel crag Aug 13, 2020, 10:37 PM

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180? Isn't that like 90ABV?
@deft pewter something like that yeah

hushed basalt Aug 13, 2020, 10:37 PM

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I doubt something would stay at 90% for very long once you open the bottle

steel crag Aug 13, 2020, 10:37 PM

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the 151 bottles here have flame arrestors on them

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LOL

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In fact I have a bottle in my cabinet

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but I'm out of the "overproof" 180

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this page is incorrect

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacardi_151

Bacardi 151

Bacardi 151 is a discontinued brand of highly alcoholic rum made by Bacardi Limited of Hamilton, Bermuda. It is named for its alcohol proof level of 151, that is, 75.5% alcohol by volume. This is much higher than typical rum at 35%–40%. Bacardi 151 was sold in the United State...

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it's still produced

orchid rose Aug 13, 2020, 11:10 PM

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That seems like a bad idea...

hushed basalt Aug 13, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Far out facebook is addictive

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I logged out of facebook and the amount of times I end up on the login screen without even thinking about it

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Facebooks ethics aren't much different to pokies imo

forest edge Aug 14, 2020, 12:07 AM

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facebook is nasty, you may as well support no privacy laws lol

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 12:09 AM

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That seems like a bad idea...
@orchid rose what does?

green inlet Aug 14, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Bacardi 151 ......Dr Pepper shots.....😍

last dirge Aug 14, 2020, 1:18 AM

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good ol' flaming Dr Pepper

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Dr Pepper is struggling right now

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aluminum can shortage

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 1:19 AM

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Bacardi 151 ......Dr Pepper shots.....😍
@green inlet we use Goldschlager for that

green inlet Aug 14, 2020, 1:19 AM

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How the heck did you fit the shot glass in the aluminum can opening 😂

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 1:19 AM

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or fireball

green inlet Aug 14, 2020, 1:19 AM

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Goldschlager......puke pixie dust

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 1:19 AM

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normally 151 is either used to make rum punch, or flaming shots

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at least in my experience

green inlet Aug 14, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Isn’t that the liquor with all the confetti in it

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 1:20 AM

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I've also used it as fuel

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Isn’t that the liquor with all the confetti in it
@green inlet gold flakes yes

green inlet Aug 14, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Dr Pepper is a flaming shot

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Dr Pepper is a flaming shot
@green inlet oh I thought you just meant "tastes like"

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BTW just flashed another sonoff touch to upgrade it

green inlet Aug 14, 2020, 1:21 AM

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You haven’t lived until you have done a flaming Dr Pepper

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 1:21 AM

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and this one was a breeze compared to the others

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You haven’t lived until you have done a flaming Dr Pepper
@green inlet you ever tried liquid heroin ?

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Goldschlager and Jagermeister

green inlet Aug 14, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Jagermeister is my favorite shot.

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 1:22 AM

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it's not my favorite but it's in my top 10

green inlet Aug 14, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Seems dirty to put goldschlager in it

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 1:22 AM

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it's really smooth and really fvcks you up

last dirge Aug 14, 2020, 1:22 AM

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when I was in Mexico last some really drunk dude at the resort was like "COME ON MAN, DO A SHOT"

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 1:22 AM

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when I was in Mexico last some really drunk dude at the resort was like "COME ON MAN, DO A SHOT"
@last dirge as drunk dude's do

last dirge Aug 14, 2020, 1:23 AM

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and shoves a shot in front of me and says "IT'S CALLED SHITS IN THE GRASS"

green inlet Aug 14, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Lmao

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Sounds good

last dirge Aug 14, 2020, 1:23 AM

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https://noseychef.com/2019/07/19/shit-on-the-grass-1/

The Nosey Chef

Nigel Eastmond

Shit on the Grass #1

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this was melon over kahlua

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but the bartender put a squirt of Hershey's syrup in there to add a little more visual

green inlet Aug 14, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Irish Car bombs are another favorite

last dirge Aug 14, 2020, 1:25 AM

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I'm not a shots guy

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or a beer guy

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Irish Car bombs are another favorite
@green inlet irish car bombs 😄

last dirge Aug 14, 2020, 1:25 AM

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but delicious fruity drinks with umbrellas? hell yeah

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 1:25 AM

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this was melon over kahlua
@last dirge can't drink Kahlua. Body rejects it.

last dirge Aug 14, 2020, 1:26 AM

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any of you been to the DR?

green inlet Aug 14, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Come on Cribbs.....I had you pegged for an OG

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 1:26 AM

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even the smell of cold coffee makes me ring up my buddy Ralph

last dirge Aug 14, 2020, 1:26 AM

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they have a national drink, mamajuana

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Come on Cribbs.....I had you pegged for an OG
@green inlet I think he's a "g"

last dirge Aug 14, 2020, 1:26 AM

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it's RANCID

green inlet Aug 14, 2020, 1:26 AM

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The DR is on my bucket list

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 1:26 AM

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one of our national drinks

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is gully wash

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aka gin and coconut water

last dirge Aug 14, 2020, 1:26 AM

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I was supposed to go there March

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then July

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now, who the hell knows

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 1:27 AM

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well The Bahamas will be open eventually

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LOL

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DR is nice tho

last dirge Aug 14, 2020, 1:27 AM

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they talk too fast

green inlet Aug 14, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Prob like any other Latin country with their take on food/fruit/bread

last dirge Aug 14, 2020, 1:27 AM

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especially for my elementary-ass spanish

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 1:27 AM

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@last dirge "them" or "us"

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ahhhhhh

green inlet Aug 14, 2020, 1:28 AM

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But I want to go

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 1:28 AM

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if you think they talk fast, try Cuba

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Cubans talk to fast and shorten everything into their own slang

green inlet Aug 14, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Yo necisita dos cervazas y donde is el banos

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 1:28 AM

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I met a Cuban guy the other day and had to tell him off

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donde esta*

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los banos

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o, el bano

green inlet Aug 14, 2020, 1:29 AM

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They always pointed and I ended up in the right place 🤣

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And two beers on the bar

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 1:29 AM

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and necesito, unless you're female 😄

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but you got the main points right

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they would've been like "this guy" but understood you for sure

green inlet Aug 14, 2020, 1:30 AM

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I had to get around bogota, Mexico City, peurto rico, and Panama on my own. I did fairly well

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 1:30 AM

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I don't think my spanish is great but I've been told it's good by native speakers

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I spent most of my time in Sweden speaking Spanish

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lots of Spanish people and Portuguese working in Sweden

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Mexico was also easy, as was Belize

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Belize speak mostly English 😄

cedar herald Aug 14, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Does anyone here have any recommendations between two vpns (proton and nord) from personal experience. Am currently leaning towards proton.

last dirge Aug 14, 2020, 3:42 AM

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which one advertises less on YouTube?

wet pilot Aug 14, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Proton I think

hushed basalt Aug 14, 2020, 4:05 AM

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Is it just me or does nodejs stuff take ages to install

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Makes my laptop fan go burrrrrrr just to make a nestjs install

wet pilot Aug 14, 2020, 4:09 AM

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I'm not impressed by *js stuffs

hushed basalt Aug 14, 2020, 4:16 AM

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It's an unfortunate necessity though :(

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Nodejs is huge in my market

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Plus obviously react

wide radish Aug 14, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Hey guys, where I can find help about esp rfid

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Its working but the mqtt message that sends every time that I use a card is

velvet horizonBOT Aug 14, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Please DO NOT cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond.

wide radish Aug 14, 2020, 5:22 AM

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📎 20200814_002141.jpg

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What kind of mqtt Mesage is that, I was waiting just tarjeta and got that

hushed basalt Aug 14, 2020, 6:44 AM

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So node was freaking out because I had my repository on my windows drive

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And wsl is slow af on that

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And node has one quadrillion files

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So running vsc in wsl mode without using windows paths and it's literally 100 times faster

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It used to take me 20 seconds just to do nest --version

cerulean smelt Aug 14, 2020, 10:24 AM

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Hi - new here,so cut me some slack, please.

dusky plank Aug 14, 2020, 10:24 AM

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no

deft pewter Aug 14, 2020, 10:26 AM

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We'll see about slack when we find out if you read the topic 😄

cerulean smelt Aug 14, 2020, 10:26 AM

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I've go a problem with ZHA not properly recognising Sonoff SNZB-01 buttons. Where should I post it?

deft pewter Aug 14, 2020, 10:26 AM

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So, uh, not here.

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#zigbee-archived

cerulean smelt Aug 14, 2020, 10:26 AM

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I guessed that!

deft pewter Aug 14, 2020, 10:26 AM

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If you read the topics of each channel, it's usually easy to find the right one. If in doubt, ask in #general-archived first.

cerulean smelt Aug 14, 2020, 10:27 AM

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Thanks.

shy comet Aug 14, 2020, 5:22 PM

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holy crap its going to be hot tomorrow

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and today

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.f2c 114

velvet horizonBOT Aug 14, 2020, 5:22 PM

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:thermometer:

Fahrenheit To Celsius

114 degrees fahrenheit = 45.56 degrees celsius!

light trout Aug 14, 2020, 5:22 PM

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It's been hot all day 😓

shy comet Aug 14, 2020, 5:22 PM

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yup

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 5:23 PM

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holy sh*rt

wet pilot Aug 14, 2020, 5:24 PM

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that's nuts

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 5:24 PM

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it's hot here right now too but damn

wet pilot Aug 14, 2020, 5:24 PM

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only 84f here

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29c

light trout Aug 14, 2020, 5:24 PM

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was 42c here earlier today

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 5:24 PM

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.f2c 97

velvet horizonBOT Aug 14, 2020, 5:24 PM

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:thermometer:

Fahrenheit To Celsius

97 degrees fahrenheit = 36.11 degrees celsius!

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 5:24 PM

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here today

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and it's only 1pm

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hottest part of the day for us is around 2-6 LOL

shy comet Aug 14, 2020, 5:27 PM

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its 90 here and its only 10am lol

steel crag Aug 14, 2020, 5:28 PM

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its 90 here and its only 10am lol
@shy comet yeah it's been above 90 here since about then too

rancid wharf Aug 14, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Anyone in KS?

low harness Aug 14, 2020, 7:35 PM

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You spikey-headed jerk!

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tidal bronze Aug 14, 2020, 8:15 PM

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@shy comet time to jump in 😆

forest edge Aug 14, 2020, 8:34 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/yeah-you-know-its-hot-too-gif-11858582

Tenor

last dirge Aug 14, 2020, 8:46 PM

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pew pew pew

📎 DSCF0789.jpg

static schooner Aug 14, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Weirdly phallic

last dirge Aug 14, 2020, 8:48 PM

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uhhh

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wat

deft pewter Aug 14, 2020, 9:13 PM

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I think he means he likes it.

hushed basalt Aug 14, 2020, 10:16 PM

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What am I looking at

dusky plank Aug 14, 2020, 10:19 PM

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covid-20

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is a 800mb pihole-FTL.db normal? 🤔

crimson coral Aug 15, 2020, 1:18 AM

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So my PC was on with the screen turn off, i though it was in sleep mode... So I click on my mouse to put it out sleep mode and i see my light bulb turn on.... o_o... i click again and it turn off. WTF? XD
I was on home assistant with my mouse pointing on the light bulb 😂 It's stupid but i just woke up So i was like wth is going on here xD

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Did I linked my mouse click to change light bulb without knowing it xD

brisk glen Aug 15, 2020, 1:23 AM

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https://reddit.com/r/blursedimages/comments/i9vwe7/blursed_plane/

r/blursedimages - Blursed Plane

3,609 votes and 77 comments so far on Reddit

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It’s a bird, it’s a plane

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It’s....

last dirge Aug 15, 2020, 1:59 AM

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I don't know what that is

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so apparently if you're using Synology hybrid RAID and you upgrade a third disk to a larger size it doesn't just rebuild the array with the data from the drive you replaced

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it then expands the array

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📎 unknown.png

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at a whopping 24% progress since about 11PM last night

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so this is going to take another 3 days

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and then I still have two more drives to swap

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so I'll be done in another week I guess

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and it apparently takes windows chkdsk 8 hours to check a 3TB drive

tidal bronze Aug 15, 2020, 3:41 AM

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@last dirge you can increase the speed.

last dirge Aug 15, 2020, 3:41 AM

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of what?

tidal bronze Aug 15, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Rebuilding

last dirge Aug 15, 2020, 3:41 AM

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how?

tidal bronze Aug 15, 2020, 3:43 AM

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http://www.handbook.dk/synology-speedup-raid-rebuild-time-704.htm

last dirge Aug 15, 2020, 3:43 AM

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can I do that if it's already doing it?

tidal bronze Aug 15, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Yes

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You can do via GUI as well, CLI better

last dirge Aug 15, 2020, 3:50 AM

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it's not really noticeably faster

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md3 : active raid5 sdc6[2] sdb6[1] sdd6[0]
8788509824 blocks super 1.2 level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [3/3] [UUU]
[=====>...............] reshape = 25.7% (2264380744/8788509824) finish=4865.7min speed=22346K/sec

hushed basalt Aug 15, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Raids are always slow to rebuild

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It's a lot of data and calculations

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Mirrors overcome a lot of these problems but then you're using 50% utilisation

wet pilot Aug 15, 2020, 5:31 AM

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And a rebuild of raid5 can cause a cascade failure in certain fun situations

rare condor Aug 15, 2020, 5:47 AM

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I just received 2* 2tb, 1* 3tb, 1*4tb, 1x 6tb and 1 *8tb hard drives, thinking I might consider btrfs or unraid as man, thats a bad combo :/

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Or sell them

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But selling anything in curfew is PITA

hushed basalt Aug 15, 2020, 6:01 AM

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I'd sell them

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I wouldn't use btrfs in raid5/6 mode

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If I need the space I've decided to not swap out my 4TBs

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Until 16TB becomes viable

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4 to 8tb just isn't worth the expense

rare condor Aug 15, 2020, 6:05 AM

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I don't expect 16TB to be cost effective for a bit, also massive rebuild time?

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I was thinking 4TB sas is best for price atm, but RIP my power bill.

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Or 8TB shucked

hushed basalt Aug 15, 2020, 7:40 AM

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I have a 2 x 2 x 4TB and 2 x 8TB in zfs striped mirror

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I lose 50% instead of 25 or 33%

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But it means I can expand and swap out a pair at a time

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I did the math and for my usage pattern it actually worked out cheaper

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So I'll get another pair of 8tb if I need it to add 8TB to the pool

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And after that, spending $400-$500 to swap out a pair of 4TBs just isn't worth it. To only add 4TB to the pool

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So hopefully it'll be a while before I get to that point @rare condor

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I'm probably going to stop downloading 4k stuff too. The AI upscaling on my tv is very very good I don't actually notice the difference from 4K or clean HD source content

rare condor Aug 15, 2020, 7:45 AM

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fair. seems well though out

midnight adder Aug 15, 2020, 8:49 AM

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I'm looking forward to trialling (beta) a hardware integration between the Honeywell Dimension / Flex Alarm panels and MQTT. It's also two way. I can then make use of the door sensors and pirs for HA as well as tasking HA to communicate with the panel.

hushed basalt Aug 15, 2020, 10:21 AM

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What a crappy month for television

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My sonarr calendar is completely empty

deft pewter Aug 15, 2020, 10:24 AM

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I blame services like Netflix dumping entire seasons at once for binging.

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I actually prefer getting an episode per week.

worldly tusk Aug 15, 2020, 10:25 AM

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I like both

deft pewter Aug 15, 2020, 10:28 AM

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My wife and I enjoyed watching all of the Witcher over a couple of nights. But that's nothing we couldn't have done if we'd just saved up the episodes.

hushed basalt Aug 15, 2020, 10:41 AM

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I love season releases

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If you want to watch it weekly you can.

deft pewter Aug 15, 2020, 10:44 AM

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Don't get me wrong, I usually pace myself. It's just season releases are the reason there's often months-long voids in Sonarr.

hushed basalt Aug 15, 2020, 11:01 AM

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I'd like the idea of a middle ground

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Abolishment of the season model

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And just clusters of episodes released at once

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Kind of like BBC miniseries but not years apart

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Then you have your continuation of a series arch without annoying 1-2 week waits between 40 minute episodes

deft pewter Aug 15, 2020, 11:03 AM

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You mean you don't want multiple years between seasons of Sherlock or Doctor Who? 🤣

hushed basalt Aug 15, 2020, 11:03 AM

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But you have gaps to let audiences do their whole podcast/facebook/water cooler discussions

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More like shows like Luther etc

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Where they have 4 or 2 episode seasons

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And 2-3 years between.

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Imagine for example if game of thrones didn't have "seasons" per say

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But you had clusters of 3/4 episodes released every 3 months

deft pewter Aug 15, 2020, 11:06 AM

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Hmm. I could go for that but I imagine it'd make production tricky.

hushed basalt Aug 15, 2020, 11:06 AM

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They could still produce the shows in 6 or 12 episodes at a time

deft pewter Aug 15, 2020, 11:06 AM

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They'd either always be producing content (like soaps) or they'd have to commit to a huge amount of content up-front, which is risky.

hushed basalt Aug 15, 2020, 11:06 AM

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It's like lean small batch sizes but for tv production

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Produce a couple of batches

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Get real feedback of what works

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And tweak the next production

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Much smaller feedback loop

deft pewter Aug 15, 2020, 11:08 AM

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Sounds good in principle. Not sure how it'd work in practise.

hushed basalt Aug 15, 2020, 11:08 AM

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It works better for tv crew as well

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Basically in tv/film production if you're a freelancer for day jobs you take a risk doing long tv shows

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Because if you go away for 6-10 weeks other people move in on your regular gigs

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And you might not get them back

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But if you're only away for 3 weeks 4 times a year you can still keep your regular intact

deft pewter Aug 15, 2020, 11:11 AM

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That makes sense. But I imagine it's cheaper to product more episodes at once. No need to build sets multiple times, get one crew in for post-production to get it all done, etc.

hushed basalt Aug 15, 2020, 11:12 AM

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Yeah There definitely those factors

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But for post production it's part of the same problem

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They can end up being consumed by one production

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So one client becomes basically their entire revenue source for a good chunk of the year

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Which isn't ideal

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Or they have to upscale to do smaller jobs and a big production at the same time

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Which is another form of risk

deft pewter Aug 15, 2020, 11:17 AM

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Yeah, there are definitely challenges. I don't know enough about how it all works but it seems things are changing already - we're already seeing way more short runs. I miss the days of 20/22 episode seasons.

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We're lucky to get 10 now.

hushed basalt Aug 15, 2020, 11:35 AM

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I always found shows with 20+ episodes to be very procedural

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Especially cop/detective shows

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I think SG1 handled it reasonably well though

deft pewter Aug 15, 2020, 11:36 AM

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Yeah, anything with a decent overarching plot can work well.

hushed basalt Aug 15, 2020, 11:36 AM

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Plus 26 episode run shows were absolutely brutal on actors etc

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Listen to Hugh Laurie talk about House

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It's not even a think you can throw more money at too

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They're just working way too much

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And you can't rotate out actors like you can with crew

fervent atlas Aug 15, 2020, 11:46 AM

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what would you consider the best way to add functionality to about 50 different buttons? I feel writing automations for every different button press isn't the proper way to go about this

deft pewter Aug 15, 2020, 11:48 AM

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I feel asking in lounge isn't the proper way to go about this 😄

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Start in #general-archived if you're not sure, you'll be directed to the right place.

fervent atlas Aug 15, 2020, 11:49 AM

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yeah I just remembered this server has a lot more rooms, and lounge isn't the generic offtopic

boreal pewter Aug 15, 2020, 11:49 AM

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This is the generic offtopic, but talking about automations in a smart home discord is not offtopic..

deft pewter Aug 15, 2020, 11:51 AM

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Asking how to do HA stuff in a channel that explicitly says no HA support is off-topic 😉

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But let's leave it at that so we can get back to non-HA talk.

fervent atlas Aug 15, 2020, 11:55 AM

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in that case, I'll tell more about my smart drink stirrer

deft pewter Aug 15, 2020, 11:55 AM

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Please do, that sounds interesting 😄

fervent atlas Aug 15, 2020, 11:55 AM

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it would have a load cell to determine whether there's enough liquid to be stirred, and turn on automatically

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otherwise functioning like a regular chem lab magnetic stirrer

deft pewter Aug 15, 2020, 11:58 AM

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Is this for cocktails or something?

fervent atlas Aug 15, 2020, 11:59 AM

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any drink you'd want to stay mixed - for my use case, it's a sports drink mix for hydration at the desk

dusky plank Aug 15, 2020, 12:00 PM

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take my money

hushed basalt Aug 15, 2020, 12:01 PM

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I'd like a pid mixer heater

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Like a thermomix but not $2000 and a closed system

fervent atlas Aug 15, 2020, 12:02 PM

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well you could take a cheap mixer heater and stuff an esp32 in it

hushed basalt Aug 15, 2020, 12:02 PM

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Something that I could use normal cookware on

fervent atlas Aug 15, 2020, 12:02 PM

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oh, that has considerably higher power requirements

hushed basalt Aug 15, 2020, 12:04 PM

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📎 15974930328976287384687039009589.jpg

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Doesn't even need to be smart

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Not a mixer but I think breville made an induction stove with pid

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But it was a stupid amount of money

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I just hate how there's no feedback loops in normal stovetop cooking

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📎 15974932611656982876278671322611.jpg

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Could add a standard impeller on top for mixing

fervent atlas Aug 15, 2020, 12:14 PM

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what do you cook that requires knowing the exact temperature?

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might be helpful for a robot cook

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are you hiding a robot maid from us?

hushed basalt Aug 15, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Everything can benefit from precision cooking

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That's the whole point of sous vide

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But it doesn't work for things you cook in pots

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Or fry

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Control and automation also lead to standardization and repeatability

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Which means you can experiment with one variable at a time

pure vine Aug 15, 2020, 3:42 PM

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So i now have a fritzbox, im currently using it to listen to the podcast through the tv

last dirge Aug 15, 2020, 6:29 PM

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@tidal bronze

📎 wt83dw1wx6h51.png

tidal bronze Aug 15, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Nice. That's what I am talking about.

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Going low and slow today

📎 Screenshot_20200815-113208_Gallery.jpg

last dirge Aug 15, 2020, 6:32 PM

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messing around with the new camera

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📎 jbwmfw1wx6h51.png

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📎 seufzw1wx6h51.png

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I got a Looftlighter for my birthday, it's pretty awesome

deft pewter Aug 15, 2020, 6:38 PM

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First time I've heard of those. They sound great. Is it basically a hot air gun designed to light coals?

tidal bronze Aug 15, 2020, 6:39 PM

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I use starter cubes. In a hurry DeWalt leaf blower 🤣

last dirge Aug 15, 2020, 6:39 PM

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@deft pewter yeah, but it's way long

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so you don't burn your hands

tidal bronze Aug 15, 2020, 6:41 PM

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I started at 8 AM, 3 hour run. Too hot for anything else.

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@last dirge what lump?

last dirge Aug 15, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Kamado Joe XL

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Costco had it on sale

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4 bags for 80

tidal bronze Aug 15, 2020, 6:45 PM

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That's a great price.

last dirge Aug 15, 2020, 6:46 PM

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one of the chunks that came out of the bag was a whole damn log

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probably about 4" across

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and about 6" long

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huge stuff

tidal bronze Aug 15, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Gotta switch back to lump next week

last dirge Aug 15, 2020, 6:48 PM

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📎 camera.png

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ignore the wildly inaccurate time

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finally fixed my glare issues

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📎 ZPv--0-T1R-zIHLu70x8LJrm0Fp-14qNbs9zeurnZL_sQYEnJbmdswk2xLfEyr17Wqkc9-GElG6pncBgcteSVBhIC9YxEmbjLzg-.png

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LOL

orchid rose Aug 15, 2020, 6:49 PM

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if it works it works

tidal bronze Aug 15, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Damn. That's a first.

late gate Aug 15, 2020, 6:53 PM

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@pure vine when I hear fritzbox I think ISDN, but I might be too old

steel crag Aug 15, 2020, 7:03 PM

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perhaps, but how old is "too old" cuz I remember ISDN just fine

late gate Aug 15, 2020, 7:05 PM

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when ISDN was a big upgrade from PSTN we are all old

hollow glacier Aug 15, 2020, 7:12 PM

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@last dirge the painters tape on the end really makes it

last dirge Aug 15, 2020, 7:13 PM

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the painter's tape is covering up a cardboard plug 🙂

steel crag Aug 15, 2020, 7:22 PM

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when ISDN was a big upgrade from PSTN we are all old
I remember when POTS went upgraded

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to you know having callerID, 3 way calling etc

last dirge Aug 15, 2020, 8:46 PM

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et voila

📎 unknown.png

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@tidal bronze

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also, LOL for not selecting the resize option

tidal bronze Aug 15, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Is it falling off already ?

last dirge Aug 15, 2020, 8:48 PM

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no, giving it another 30 minutes

tidal bronze Aug 15, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Right on.

last dirge Aug 15, 2020, 8:48 PM

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I'm not a fan of "fall off the bone" though

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I prefer competition style

tidal bronze Aug 15, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Almost ready to fall off is the right amount.

last dirge Aug 15, 2020, 8:49 PM

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I don't have much retraction at the bones

tidal bronze Aug 15, 2020, 8:50 PM

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It's going to be bbq for 2 days. Freaking hot.

fluid zephyr Aug 15, 2020, 8:54 PM

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I'm looking for a good online source for learning Python. I'm not able to get very far with trail / error + google. I've certainly gained some basic understanding and can make use of examples found on sites like www.w3schools.com/python but now I'd like to learn: How to program with Python. It seems like the obvious choice is to join https://realpython.com/

Does anyone have any experience with this site ?
Do you have another / better site to consider ?

Python Tutorials – Real Python

Learn Python online: Python tutorials for developers of all skill levels, Python books and courses, Python news, code examples, articles, and more.

last dirge Aug 15, 2020, 8:54 PM

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@fluid zephyr are you new to software development in general or just python?

fluid zephyr Aug 15, 2020, 8:56 PM

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complete noob to real development but I can write some basic bash scripts and a little of the saem with Python

light trout Aug 15, 2020, 8:57 PM

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https://docs.python-guide.org/ has a good amount.
For me, I looked at source codes, and starting writing stuff

fluid zephyr Aug 15, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Funny you mention @light trout - cause I use your repo a a referance, lol

light trout Aug 15, 2020, 8:58 PM

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oh boy... probably not start there 🤣

fluid zephyr Aug 15, 2020, 9:00 PM

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I'm looking at your latest fork, the fitnesspal - I'm gonna try gettin a devcontainer setup from that

light trout Aug 15, 2020, 9:00 PM

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fitnespal? 🤔

fluid zephyr Aug 15, 2020, 9:01 PM

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it's gonna now, I follow you so I noticed it https://github.com/helto4real/custom_component_myfitnesspal

light trout Aug 15, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Ah, I moved some stuff around there 😛

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That's @broken junco 's thingy

fluid zephyr Aug 15, 2020, 9:03 PM

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anyways, looked like a pretty straight foward basis to figure out the devcontains

light trout Aug 15, 2020, 9:04 PM

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It sure is!
I'm in probably 5-10 different repos daily, all work is beeing done in devcontainer

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(other than the fitnespal change, that was github UI 🙈 )

fluid zephyr Aug 15, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Funny, I run Linux but never got into Docker -- I'm like super noob (developer) but HA has motivated me to learn. I look back at my first post in the forums, I didn't even know what markdown was. But I learned it cause I wanted share a guide and make it look nice

last dirge Aug 15, 2020, 10:41 PM

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awww yiss

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night zodiac Aug 15, 2020, 10:42 PM

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well I was going to hang out in here but not while I'm hungry

last dirge Aug 15, 2020, 10:42 PM

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hahaha

fluid zephyr Aug 15, 2020, 11:37 PM

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So looks like using a dev container with VS-Code doen't work in Linux - The container add-on rely on closed source code not available, in the Linux version, Code-OOS 😦

forest edge Aug 15, 2020, 11:42 PM

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It's going to be bbq for 2 days. Freaking hot.
@tidal bronze hot? thought you Californians were use to the heat and this weather should feel like spring to you

light trout Aug 15, 2020, 11:49 PM

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I run Ubuntu @fluid zephyr works pretty well here (better than what it did when I used Windows)

fluid zephyr Aug 15, 2020, 11:50 PM

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🤔 That's great news! I'll give it try on my laptop then, My main rig is Arch

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It look like everything istalled but then is says it can't find the command when I try to run using the commane pallet

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I try laptop though, it has Ubunut base, thanks

hollow glacier Aug 15, 2020, 11:53 PM

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🤔 That's great news! I'll give it try on my laptop then, My main rig is Arch
@fluid zephyr how to spot an arch user... "they tell you"

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😛

fluid zephyr Aug 15, 2020, 11:53 PM

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🤣

tidal bronze Aug 15, 2020, 11:53 PM

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@forest edge you have no idea what it really means when we say sunny.

fluid zephyr Aug 15, 2020, 11:54 PM

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I'll admit it, Arch + KDE fanboy

hollow glacier Aug 15, 2020, 11:54 PM

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ZoL or death?

fluid zephyr Aug 15, 2020, 11:55 PM

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ZFS on Linux ?

hollow glacier Aug 15, 2020, 11:55 PM

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yeah lol

fluid zephyr Aug 15, 2020, 11:55 PM

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of course, lol

hollow glacier Aug 15, 2020, 11:56 PM

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i've yet to use zfs as i use unraid. hoping it comes sooner rather than later

fluid zephyr Aug 15, 2020, 11:57 PM

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That's why I use TrueNAS for my server -- BSD based but native ZFS

hollow glacier Aug 15, 2020, 11:57 PM

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but most of my array is "linux isos" and i dont have a lot to lose regarding bitrot or i/o

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yeah

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surprising you use truenas over freenas

fluid zephyr Aug 15, 2020, 11:59 PM

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I fell in love ZFS after that fact, My first attraction was just being able create a zpool with all drives and split up datasets. But i liked that cause I could create without predefined sized

hollow glacier Aug 15, 2020, 11:59 PM

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"linux isos"

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fluid zephyr Aug 15, 2020, 11:59 PM

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I was on FreeNAS 11.3 but now it's TrueNAS Core

hollow glacier Aug 15, 2020, 11:59 PM

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ah

fluid zephyr Aug 15, 2020, 11:59 PM

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they merged

hollow glacier Aug 15, 2020, 11:59 PM

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TIL

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yeah i just dont have the disks to put in a second server and play w/ zfs

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i have a bunch of 8year power on hour wd greens that i dont trust as far as i can throw them... others go in unraid

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at some point i want to try proxmox+ceph+rook

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 12:01 AM

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of those, I only know about proxmox

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 12:02 AM

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https://ceph.io/

Ceph

admin

Homepage - Ceph

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https://rook.io/

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those

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 12:04 AM

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That's cool. I have an idea of the concepts they mention but that's all really over my head

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 12:04 AM

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same, that's why i want to play with them

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 12:15 AM

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@hollow glacier is that plex you have your movies in

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 12:15 AM

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yeah plex

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in a docker container on unraid

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 12:16 AM

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I like that info card - I run Emby in jail on NAS

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I should install Plex

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 12:17 AM

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this is my old beast

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info card? that was a snip from a discord bot i run in a docker container called "mellow"

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from what i've seen, emby is better for live tv and iptv

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otherwise it's basically the same as plex

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jellyfin is cool for foss

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i have that setup as a backup

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 12:18 AM

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That UI looks sweet, and I'm really jealous of Docker

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 12:19 AM

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yeah

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no "traditional raid" is what turns away most people from unraid

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but you can nest unraid in esxi or use hardware raid shudders and pass that through

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the way they handle VMs and docker containers is great though

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ezpz to passthrough any device

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 12:23 AM

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That's another thing I like about ZFS, how it's basically the same as raid, but built into the filesystem + the snapshots. It took me a while using ZFS before I actaully realized what they were, lol

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 12:23 AM

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yeah

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definitely the way to go these days

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 12:23 AM

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It's great to have so many options

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 12:23 AM

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that's what a typical docker container install looks like on unraid

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preconfigured templates that are easy as hell to edit or create your own

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VMs are just as easy, yet you can edit the xml and use anything you find on r/vfio as a guide

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 12:26 AM

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Thats nice, The plugin on NAS are basically bash scripts

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 12:26 AM

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i've heard freenas isnt great for docker and vms as far as setup goes

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 12:28 AM

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You have to use a VM running Linux for docker - The plugins / jails on FreeNAS are the BSD version of containers so super light wieght and fast

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 12:28 AM

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ah

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 12:28 AM

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but also BSD based

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 12:28 AM

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a lot of containers for unraid use alpine + whatever

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 12:29 AM

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yea alpine seems the way to go for a container base

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 12:29 AM

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although a lot are arch too

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my plex container https://hub.docker.com/r/linuxserver/plex/

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 12:30 AM

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I'm scare if I get into docker much more I'll want to switch my server to something that can run it native. I don't have the overhead for a VM

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Plus byhve doesn't have usb pass through to VM

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 12:31 AM

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imo for home use a whitebox ryzen build is the way to go

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usb passthrough is dead simple w/ unraid :x

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i built two whitebox servers with used server gear

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but to do it again i'd definitely do a ryzen build.. i upgraded to a 3700x / x570 mobo with a 2060s last year and i freaking love it

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 12:32 AM

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US does work in jails, I think the byhve hypervisor is not very good - I would want a Linux base for anything like that

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 12:32 AM

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i thought about virtualizing my gaming pc in a win10 vm on unraid w/ my 3700x and co

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 12:33 AM

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pcie passthrough?

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 12:33 AM

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and also run plex and all my containers on the same pc

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yeah

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dude

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 12:33 AM

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You can do it on NAS also but it's a decent guide to follow

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 12:33 AM

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you can easily edit the VM xml and #1 block unraid from using those cores for itself AND dedicate specific cores and ram to the VM.

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assuming your pcie lanes are plenty and tweak it a bit.. you can get pretty much bare metal perf w/ pcie passthrough to a vm

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it's wild

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passthrough an nvme drive and bam

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 12:35 AM

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ah man...

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this could be trouble

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 12:36 AM

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dude

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i gamed in a win10 vm on unraid w/ a lga2011 dual xeon w/ e5-2667s and a gtx970 passed through and it.. wasnt bad

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 12:36 AM

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you got me thinking, that's usually never a good thing

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 12:37 AM

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ddr3 ecc slowed me down as well as the gpu

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i had the choice of building a new gaming pc or a second server.. i went with the server

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thinking good tho

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maybe not for the wallet

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 12:39 AM

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If I made I swtch, this is what I have for a server + I have a GTX 970 I could add for GPU

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I can't afford a second server, I'd have to commit, lol

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Eh there’s a serious i/o penalty with the array. Plus you’d lose zfs and striped parity

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But if it’s for a home server to run hass, plex, etc and VMs it’s perfect

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Loosing ZFS would be a tough, and I made the HA plugin for NAS so I am kinda commited to that - takes breath and steps back from the edge

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Lol

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Btw if you type your /takes sentence in ** it will emphasize it like this takes breath

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 12:46 AM

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ahh, I'm still a discord noob

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it's like markdown

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Hehe

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slaps Troy around a bit with a large trout

fluid zephyr Aug 16, 2020, 1:09 AM

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The devcontains work! Had to install the microsoft branded version of VS Code, It's only the open source version that doesn't support containers. AUR to the rescue , lol

hushed basalt Aug 16, 2020, 3:11 AM

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I recommend not using volume mounts if you're on windows

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Git clone inside the linux container. Way better performance

hushed basalt Aug 16, 2020, 10:57 AM

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I've been learning typescript for the first time this weekend

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And I'm actually really liking it

deft pewter Aug 16, 2020, 12:19 PM

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I want to convince the teams I work with to change to TS. I think there's going to be much resistance.

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For now, I'm going to look at getting them to add declaration files so the IDE at least does more TS-aware stuff.

hushed basalt Aug 16, 2020, 12:57 PM

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I don't understand the resistance to TS

green inlet Aug 16, 2020, 1:03 PM

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No one likes their cheese moved

hushed basalt Aug 16, 2020, 1:14 PM

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Static typing. Real interfaces. 👌

deft pewter Aug 16, 2020, 1:16 PM

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I think it's just the learning curve. I'd like to use it but I'm one of the newer members on a product. Most of them are seasoned vets, so don't like having things change.

hushed basalt Aug 16, 2020, 1:17 PM

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:'(

hushed basalt Aug 16, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Do they hate docker

solid thunder Aug 16, 2020, 1:36 PM

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Hello everybody! New user here. Adopted Home Assistant when Wink decided to not be free any longer. Plus I like tinkering and I fancy myself a novice coder (I want to say "programmer" but I think "coder" is the new, hip title). However, I don't even really know how to use github yet. Home Assistant has been DIY enough to satisfy my tinkering needs but simple enough to actually make someone like me have a successful HA build. HassOS, of course (easy). I use HA to basically do some automation stuff with my lights and to turn my pool pump on and off each day with a GE/Jasco Z-Wave switch. Looking to do more automation stuff as I add more smart devices to my home. I'll be looking to this forum for automation ideas as I often don't realize the value of automating some things with the smart devices I already have.

dull chasm Aug 16, 2020, 1:43 PM

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@solid thunder welcome to the rabbit hole

winged thicket Aug 16, 2020, 2:37 PM

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I too am new here, just started the smart home adventure yesterday. Installed 8 GE/Jasco zwave switches and got them all working. I really appreciate the people here's responsiveness and patience to the complete noobs. I was frankly nervous to ask for help. I can't wait to learn more, and get this system completely off the ground. Look forward to learning and hopefully some day contributing back.

dull chasm Aug 16, 2020, 3:10 PM

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@winged thicket welcome .... @clever mortar is your guy 🤣

clever mortar Aug 16, 2020, 3:13 PM

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Don't worry, I'm making sure the lions are feeling peckish

dull chasm Aug 16, 2020, 3:22 PM

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i up your lion with one thorn to the paw

clever mortar Aug 16, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Fine, I'll go settle for some locusts... BRB

steel crag Aug 16, 2020, 5:11 PM

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I love the sound of jackhammers in the morning

low harness Aug 16, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Outside or the floor above?

steel crag Aug 16, 2020, 5:13 PM

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25ft outside my window

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if it was in the floor above I'd set fire to the building because my home is single level LOL

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 5:23 PM

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me and the squirrels have an agreement

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a truce if you will

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they stay quiet, they dont get kicked out

steel crag Aug 16, 2020, 5:23 PM

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I'd love squirrels

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I have chickens that I do not have a cease fire agreement with

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they are shot at on sight

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LOL paintballs and a slingshot only embarrass them tho

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 5:25 PM

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gotta get those rose colored glasses for them

steel crag Aug 16, 2020, 5:25 PM

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for the what?

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 5:27 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_eyeglasses

Chicken eyeglasses

Chicken eyeglasses, also known as chickens specs, chicken goggles, generically as pick guards and under other names, were small eyeglasses made for chickens intended to prevent feather pecking and cannibalism. They differ from blinders as they allowed the bird to see forward w...

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lmao

steel crag Aug 16, 2020, 5:29 PM

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you know, I grew up on a chicken farm and I've NEVER seen those

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LMFAO

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and we used to have 750,000 chickens....

hollow glacier Aug 16, 2020, 5:30 PM

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https://giphy.com/gifs/sad-a9xhxAxaqOfQs

Giphy

brisk glen Aug 16, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Clearly eyeless

forest edge Aug 16, 2020, 7:28 PM

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that looks alittle like linus from tech tips lol

orchid rose Aug 16, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Haha, good spot

steel crag Aug 16, 2020, 7:44 PM

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you know my son said the same thing earlier

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and I dismissed it

wispy fable Aug 16, 2020, 8:09 PM

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who should i convince that home assistant should include the package expect

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it is great to have if you are making script that for example SSH to a router or a switch to enable or disable a policy or port 🙂

clever mortar Aug 16, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Well, that'd be an architecture point, or maybe a feature request

wispy fable Aug 16, 2020, 8:11 PM

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i use it to enable or disable my childs internet access. i manually add expect by running apk update and apk add expect. should be a easy thing to include by default

clever mortar Aug 16, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Of course, if you ran #551864459891703809 you'd be able to do that 😉

deft pewter Aug 16, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Conversely, if you're on #330990055533576204, it's not full Linux and you can't install packages.

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So... probably not an easy thing to include by default.

clever mortar Aug 16, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Well, it'd be in the container

wispy fable Aug 16, 2020, 8:12 PM

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i run my containers on a ubuntu installation

clever mortar Aug 16, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Yeah, but expect runs in the container

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Doesn't matter what your OS is 😉

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expect is awesome though 😉

dull chasm Aug 16, 2020, 8:15 PM

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ACCEPT is better

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wispy fable Aug 16, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Accept is the worst name ever when googling 🙂

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I will switch to the nuc image if it works on my small supermicro servers and the need to do stuff like this. The hardware is 100% "normal" intel stuff so i guess hardware support shouldn't be a issue 🙂

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/add-package-expect-to-hass-io/219082 🙂

Home Assistant Community

Add package expect to hass.io

Hello! Could you add the package expect to hass.io? It is great for making script that connect to network equipment to enable and disable stuff like firewall policys or switchports. If you do that i don’t have any more reasons to run the not really supported installation on d...

light trout Aug 16, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Create an add-on for it

wispy fable Aug 16, 2020, 8:40 PM

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right now i use command line switch to run to shell scripts in the /config-folder

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switch:

platform: command_line
switches:
child_internet_status:
command_on: bash -x /config/child-internet-unblock.sh
command_off: bash -x /config/child-internet-block.sh
friendly_name: child Internet Status

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that script is using expect to ssh to my router, run some commands to enable or disable the firewall policy that enables or disables my sons internet access

velvet horizonBOT Aug 16, 2020, 8:44 PM

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@wispy fable posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hQcxBBZ7cy/

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@wispy fable Rule #6: Please do not post codewalls (longer than 15 lines) - use sites such as https://hasteb.in/, https://paste.ubuntu.com/, or others.

Please take the time now to review all of the rules and references in #rules.

wispy fable Aug 16, 2020, 8:50 PM

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@light trout Do you think i can run the shell script in another container?

light trout Aug 16, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Yes

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Well.. maybe not, I don't know you 🤷
It's doable 🤷

wispy fable Aug 16, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Everything is doable but the path of least resistance is by adding expect to the homeassistant container used by hass.io

light trout Aug 16, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Will not help, and adding additional stuff in there for 1 user... Probably will not happen.
Create an add-on, and do whatever inside that

wispy fable Aug 16, 2020, 8:58 PM

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ok. so when i switch to a regular hass.io image on my server somebody can add it to the community add-ons?

clever mortar Aug 16, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Well, that's more an #add-ons-archived discussion I'd suggest

light trout Aug 16, 2020, 8:59 PM

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No one will do that for you, you need to make it

wispy fable Aug 16, 2020, 9:01 PM

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yes but if i make my own container somebody can add it to the list of add-ons

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lot's of work for only one command 🙂

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or maybe i can put the expect binary in the config folder. that would solve it 🙂

wispy fable Aug 16, 2020, 9:56 PM

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i realized that pexpect is available and incluted in the image 🙂

static schooner Aug 16, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Please don't crosspost, especially into a channel that says "no support"

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this is a #frontend-archived question, and there are several hits on the forum (like this one: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/media-player-volume-slider-and-source-select/131439)

tranquil gust Aug 16, 2020, 10:52 PM

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@static schooner sorry! Will delete it right away and check frontend. Thanks

static schooner Aug 16, 2020, 10:53 PM

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thanks, or just visit the link I posted 🙂

forest edge Aug 17, 2020, 12:17 AM

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haha! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/559707731041320960/744711140549984256/unknown.png

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that needs to be added to the book as a standard response

vivid fox Aug 17, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Anyone know of a good place to unload older zwave switches? As part of my recent migration to HA I replaced ~12 non-zwave plus GE switches for plus models. Anywhere better than eBay?

forest edge Aug 17, 2020, 12:24 AM

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tear some apart and make zwave reed switches out of them

vivid fox Aug 17, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Do people do that with these switches in particular? Wouldn’t that be easier with a device that’s already battery powered versus figuring out a power supply some a circuit built for mains power?

forest edge Aug 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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no idea what people do with them in general but the power is being stepped down, to power the actual zwave controller

vivid fox Aug 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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That’s an idea. I also have two Aeon microdimmers that I may figure out something for

forest edge Aug 17, 2020, 12:33 AM

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you would have to take one apart to see how difficult it would be but it's like most other stuff. a little creativity and you can turn it into something else that's useful for you

vivid fox Aug 17, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Thinking about wiring one of those into my hardwired smoke alarms, on the traveler

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Mains powered device to read a push button...

hushed basalt Aug 17, 2020, 12:39 AM

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I'd just sell them on ebay as a bulk lot

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Time is valuable

steel crag Aug 17, 2020, 12:40 AM

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12 non-zwave plus GE switches

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so you mean 12 zwave non-plus?

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LOL

forest edge Aug 17, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Time is valuable
@hushed basalt as opposed to spending weeks messing with a backup using raids? lol jk

hushed basalt Aug 17, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Yeah that even proves my point more :D

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I should of just spent more money on better backups rather than relying too much on synology

forest edge Aug 17, 2020, 12:52 AM

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lol

hushed basalt Aug 17, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Now I spent the money on a real server and more hard drives and use zfs and mirrors and it's super simple and easy

last dirge Aug 17, 2020, 3:03 AM

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📎 X9z_-3UWot7UnGN-GYWyle2OEFsmVL2McZVObHSSGdUXTr7yer9DNz8uoNDtH-HFAb37OGeiiKXfi1Qn6VUJAu3sy3QfpsAgJNSS.png

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backups?

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slow-ass Synology volume reshaping?

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thick dragon Aug 17, 2020, 3:44 AM

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The plastic still being on those gives me anxiety. PEEL THAT SHIT OFF!

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Random question: What's a decent IDE for MySQL? Use SSMS daily, so something similar would be good. Need to do some relatively complex analysis on the HA data.

steel crag Aug 17, 2020, 3:45 AM

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it does save on the scratches tho

static schooner Aug 17, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Unless the data is stored on the outside, peel it off 🙂

hushed basalt Aug 17, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Storing data in the plastic protection... write that down, write that down!

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Ever growing plastic waste, ever growing data needs. Two problems solved in one.

static schooner Aug 17, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Like the original wax cylinders to record audio

nocturne aspen Aug 17, 2020, 7:03 AM

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is there any more modern aproach for an alarm built into HA than bwalarm

clever mortar Aug 17, 2020, 7:15 AM

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I'd ask in #integrations-archived 😉

deft pewter Aug 17, 2020, 7:15 AM

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Random question: What's a decent IDE for MySQL? Use SSMS daily, so something similar would be good. Need to do some relatively complex analysis on the HA data.
@thick dragon I'm by no means an expert but I always just used MySQL Workbench when I had to manage a couple of DB's in a previous job.

nocturne aspen Aug 17, 2020, 7:16 AM

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Tinkerer, the thing is that i dont want to integrate an exisitng alarm, but built one in HA

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but will ask

deft pewter Aug 17, 2020, 7:17 AM

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If you want to make your own (as in writing the code), check the dev docs and ask in #developers. If you want to use something existing, ask in #integrations-archived

clever mortar Aug 17, 2020, 7:17 AM

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Well, that's kinda where you'd start 😉

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 8:53 AM

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Anyone used RobotOS before?

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i.e. ROS

hushed basalt Aug 17, 2020, 9:37 AM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/fddfffe86467e72e06f606292ac89726/tenor.gif

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 11:35 AM

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haha

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 11:59 AM

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https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity 😢 Speaking about metrics Ubuntu is more popular than Debian (Excluding Forks). I sure wonder what most people installed the generic linux install on..... Guess I need to figure out secondary storage on the Nuc image and write an RFC Spec to get supervisor supporting shm size so I can run frigate..

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light trout Aug 17, 2020, 1:13 PM

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Most people probably used Ubuntu, but that does not mean it's is/was a good idea to do so

dusky plank Aug 17, 2020, 1:14 PM

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i like arch

boreal pewter Aug 17, 2020, 1:23 PM

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Not better, even more terrible

dusky plank Aug 17, 2020, 1:26 PM

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less terrible, arch comes pretty much empty

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 1:38 PM

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yeah, my only problem is it's going to take lots of figuring out how to get onto the stock images. I have backups and databases split across nvme / secondary ssd, and running native docker images which I could probably do with the prox addon.

dusky plank Aug 17, 2020, 1:42 PM

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why change? generic is not really unsupported afaik

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 1:50 PM

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I know better at this point...

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it will be broken at some point and then I won't have time to fix it

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Messaging has been very clear, we don't want you using this. The generic install linux scripts were broken and still are from when the generic method went away and came back.

light trout Aug 17, 2020, 1:52 PM

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It's not broken

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 1:54 PM

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https://raw.githubusercontent.com/home-assistant/supervised-installer/c674830d8ddc6af9d618755a7995af939dd73fde/installer.sh is the last commit that works for me on stock ubuntu..

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maybe there's been recent updates but it wasn't working a month ago.

clever mortar Aug 17, 2020, 1:55 PM

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I'd suggest #330944238910963714 is a better place to discuss that 😉

light trout Aug 17, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Well... Using it on Ubuntu is not supported 🤷
Look at the README

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 1:55 PM

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yeah, looks like it was broken for a few months and fixed within the past week.

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yeah not supported now, but was for the longest time and even the install docs said to use it (Ubuntu) way back when.

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I don't need assistance, just nicely pointing out that the direction left a sour taste in my mouth and that I no longer trust installation methods as they could just disappear. e.g., how long will Debian be supported before that is canned? Hypervisor update 3 versions ago added error logging and the like (good) latest one removed that option for me and now I got a deprecated notice. Don't think I'm going to waste the effort getting onto Debian because I don't want to waste time when that eventually is removed.

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regardless if I can figure out storage across drives it will be nice to be on official images :).

light trout Aug 17, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Read the pinned message in #330944238910963714

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Yeah, I get it it and read it when it came out :-). One of the reasons I'm going to the nuc images next. Long term it probably shouldn't exist home automation is hard enough (and one of the reasons I can see it being removed in the future).

dusky plank Aug 17, 2020, 2:12 PM

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generic always worked fine for me this , even with all volumes mounted on nfs

steel crag Aug 17, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Messaging has been very clear, we don't want you using this. The generic install linux scripts were broken and still are from when the generic method went away and came back.
I just helped someone with 0 knowledge of linux setup generic supervised on Debian recently so I don't agree with this statement

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 2:14 PM

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@steel crag there was a commit 5 days ago to fix installer and then a few weeks before that, but it was broken for at least 1-2 months.

steel crag Aug 17, 2020, 2:15 PM

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well you said still are broken tho

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 2:15 PM

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I assumed so, and corrected myself

orchid rose Aug 17, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Home Assistant works too damn well now. I haven't done anything to it for months now and everything just works. That makes me sad.

wet pilot Aug 17, 2020, 2:46 PM

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there's stuff i've been meaning to do but can't be arsed to do it

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need to upgrade all my appdaemon stuff to the new version

last dirge Aug 17, 2020, 3:05 PM

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WHY AREN'T YOU ON THE BLEEDING EDGE?!?!?

amber bramble Aug 17, 2020, 3:05 PM

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ive got a bunch of automations i want to write but i need to buy more hardware 🙃

last dirge Aug 17, 2020, 3:05 PM

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uhh, because there's nothing wrong with it

orchid rose Aug 17, 2020, 3:07 PM

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I even update it from time to time and it still doesn't break. This is bullshit.

wet pilot Aug 17, 2020, 3:09 PM

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eh, i upgraded pretty quickly and then everything started throwing exceptions so i pinned a version to come back to it "later". that time hasn't come yet

clever mortar Aug 17, 2020, 3:10 PM

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I haven't passed 0.112 due to a lack of time/need. I'll probably get to 0.114 before 0.115 comes out

amber bramble Aug 17, 2020, 3:10 PM

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bleeding edge you say? You are currently running version 0.115.0.dev20200815

clever mortar Aug 17, 2020, 3:11 PM

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You sir are nucking futs - or a developer. Not that I'm entirely sure those things aren't part of the same continuum...

light trout Aug 17, 2020, 3:14 PM

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You better upgrade @amber bramble that version is OLD!

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amber bramble Aug 17, 2020, 3:27 PM

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upgraded, now on the real bleeding edge 😁

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 3:32 PM

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We need a release bot to ask @amber bramble why he's running an old version

clever mortar Aug 17, 2020, 3:37 PM

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😂

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Pull Request Authors can't approve their own Pull Request. damn.

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Haxxa2 has approved this pr

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 3:46 PM

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🤣🤣

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I wonder why the Military doesn't want an student intern to approve changes to a major project. Must be a bug. I should have full oversight 😡

boreal pewter Aug 17, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Ugh is anyone here right now by any chance a PC hardware specialist?

orchid rose Aug 17, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Most of these nerds 🙂

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 3:48 PM

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@boreal pewter I'm pretty decent, depends on Server or Consumer?

boreal pewter Aug 17, 2020, 3:48 PM

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PC, consumer

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 3:48 PM

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ask away

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Have you restarted it? 😄

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 3:49 PM

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I don't approve of your hardware.

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ops I am meant to say that afterwards.

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sorry just pre-emptive

boreal pewter Aug 17, 2020, 3:50 PM

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I face a cooler connector problem where I already have 4 4-pin coolers with Y-cables on 2 fan connectors on the mainboard. Now I wonder if the volt and watt are identical to the CPU cooler connectors, since they're both filled with a Dark Pro 4 too and I now have a 5th 4-pin cooler I need to connect. Else I need a longer cable to connect to last free spot on mainboard which is at the other end of it

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So actually, should I longer the cable to reach the last fan spot or should I use a Y cable on the cpu cooler and use the second one for the 5th cooler

deft pewter Aug 17, 2020, 3:52 PM

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Just keep adding Y cables until everything's hooked up 🤣

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 3:52 PM

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Ok lets start with Basics 4 Pin header means it has a PWM output meaning speed control

boreal pewter Aug 17, 2020, 3:52 PM

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😆

orchid rose Aug 17, 2020, 3:52 PM

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They are all 12V connectors. Not sure how much amperage you'd get out from one but I would guess it's fine

deft pewter Aug 17, 2020, 3:52 PM

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Bonus points if you can get the Y cables to loop back around into themselves.

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I hear that gives perpetual energy.

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 3:52 PM

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If you want individual speed control then you want to plug it into spare header

boreal pewter Aug 17, 2020, 3:52 PM

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True @orchid rose my bad

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 3:53 PM

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I probably wouldn't mess with the cpu cooler connector and split off one motherboard one just to be safe, check voltage requirements

boreal pewter Aug 17, 2020, 3:53 PM

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All the mainboard and cpu connectors are PWM, I just don't have enough slots for 7 fans 😄

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And they are all PWM

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And I want it to PWM

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 3:53 PM

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I wouldn't use CPU header

boreal pewter Aug 17, 2020, 3:53 PM

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While 3 connectors are for chassis fans, 2 are for CPU cooler, are they identical?

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 3:54 PM

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I might be dyslexic this morning. I read PWM as Pro Modern Warfare (player).

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 3:54 PM

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You know you can get expansion boards than are USB header based

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to control more PWM fans

orchid rose Aug 17, 2020, 3:54 PM

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They all adjust depending on different temperature sensors usually

boreal pewter Aug 17, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Yeah that for sure

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Since when did pc building get so complicated to get the ultimate "gamer" advantage. Been building pc's for 20 years and just started on a new build and it's like in the last 5 years everything has changed.

orchid rose Aug 17, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Gamer marketing

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 3:56 PM

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nothing has changed?

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 3:56 PM

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so many more sensors and led lights to integrate into home assistant.

boreal pewter Aug 17, 2020, 3:56 PM

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But still, I have 7 fans, and 5 connectors, while 2 of them are CPU. Tell me your idea

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 3:56 PM

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seriously all the same standards

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what's so different

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Nvme?

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sure.

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 3:56 PM

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cases sizes, motherboard options (remember when the most expensive motherboard was like 150... now they are 700+).

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 3:56 PM

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but otherwise its same parts and processes

orchid rose Aug 17, 2020, 3:56 PM

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You can still make an ugly black box like mine. It's just that they sell you more stuff like water cooling, rgb lighting etc

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 3:57 PM

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I hate RGB soooo much.

deft pewter Aug 17, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Eh. Black boxes are the best. I hate RGB.

orchid rose Aug 17, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Just use Y splitters Anon

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Rainbow vomit can die

deft pewter Aug 17, 2020, 3:57 PM

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And there are some solid mobos for $/£150. Gotta be a fool to spend more than that.

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 3:57 PM

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lights, led options, cooling options for motherboards, gfx cards etc.. shit takes way more planning.. back in the day you had air cooling, then corsair had aio which was super nice and it just keeps getting crazier

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 3:57 PM

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I got B550 MB for $129

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works great

deft pewter Aug 17, 2020, 3:58 PM

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AIO is fine. Custom loops are overkill and mostly just for show.

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 3:58 PM

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heaps of features and customisation, USB C PCIEgen4 etc

deft pewter Aug 17, 2020, 3:58 PM

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I'm the only person that's ever seen the inside of my tower. That's unlikely to change. I'm not trying to impress anyone.

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 3:58 PM

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waiting for zen 3 but going to do the x570 with the 3080. trying to find a good case, so many reviews and options these days.

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but thinking about finally doing a sick led setup as I've always been plain black box.

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 3:59 PM

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@deft pewter Your PC is worthless unless it can start a rave in your bedroom.

boreal pewter Aug 17, 2020, 3:59 PM

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I not gonna upgrade till ryzen 5000 I suppose

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Also noone buys a ryzen 3000 now shortly before ryzen 4000

deft pewter Aug 17, 2020, 3:59 PM

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I love the Corsair Carbide series. Plain and simple. Tons of space for additional SSD's and decent cable routing.

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 4:00 PM

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@boreal pewter I did I bought Ryzen 3600 for $100 as its cheap enough to upgrade to higher end Ryzen 4000 CPU then

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 4:00 PM

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I built a monster pc in 2012 and continually upgraded it. I definitely need to upgrade, can't wait any longer..

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 4:00 PM

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@deft pewter poor airflow though

boreal pewter Aug 17, 2020, 4:00 PM

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@deft pewter I have the Be Quiet Dark Base 600, also 6 Be Quiet fans, the Be Quiet dark rock pro4 cpu cooler and a Be Quiet PSU

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 4:00 PM

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can't really play half life: alex on this without getting sick.

deft pewter Aug 17, 2020, 4:00 PM

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Nah. AIO hooked up to the top vents. Airflow is fine.

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 4:00 PM

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I hate AIOs

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 4:00 PM

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why is that?

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 4:00 PM

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I hate pump noise

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 4:01 PM

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never really had a problem with the corsair ones

deft pewter Aug 17, 2020, 4:01 PM

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I can't hear my computer noise over my music/game noise...

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Sure, I'd notice if I sat in silence... but why would I do that?

boreal pewter Aug 17, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Right I not gonna take a control for additional pwm, I gonna get a longer cable then

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 4:04 PM

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My PC is silent, i.e. no fans and chokes replaced as well as caps with Nippon Chemicon to remove coil whine. I spent $1300 to get noise below 24db. The room I work in is silent. Extra thick insulation. I can hear the blood pumping through my ears and breathing of chest its so quiet. Still deeply unsatisfied as chair makes noise when I lean on it a bit.

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 4:05 PM

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@rare condor hit the gym 🙂

lyric pollen Aug 17, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Can someone help me figure out two things. I need to share a picture of my Logbook, and I need to know what channel I should post a question about "Sun" rising and setting literally 20+ times in a 1 second period.

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 4:05 PM

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I want a low power, quiet build... the 3080+ is not going to help but I'm trying to get all on solar...

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 4:06 PM

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@cedar herald I do every day, 100 curl ups before I start day in isolation.

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Take a look at Misophonia for context

granite hare Aug 17, 2020, 4:06 PM

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my arms hurt just reading that...

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 4:06 PM

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yeah no kidding. I need to get in shape, started doing the couch to 5k. I should do that first thing in the morning

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Also I used to do cold/hot showers, but not anymore.

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 4:07 PM

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@rare condor well there is a HA solution for that.. You can have HA determine a random shower temp for you 😄 https://github.com/niemyjski/homeassistant-kohler

GitHub

niemyjski/homeassistant-kohler

Kohler Integration for Home Assistant. Contribute to niemyjski/homeassistant-kohler development by creating an account on GitHub.

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Do you have kohler hws?

cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 4:09 PM

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hws?

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 4:09 PM

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hot water system?

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Like is that what sets the temp.

dusky plank Aug 17, 2020, 4:10 PM

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egg shrooms with bacon and bacon dumplings 🤤

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cedar herald Aug 17, 2020, 4:10 PM

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I have the shower hardware

rare condor Aug 17, 2020, 4:11 PM

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ah. nice

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Well its 4 am so I should got to bed. Night all

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RIP forgot to bring in bed sheets. Time to brave the cold 😶😑

flat needle Aug 17, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Just got my first sonos speaker (a beam soundbar) -- is there a listing of speakers that are modern vs. their deprecated one? So I can go pick up a good-enough one off ebay?

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hmm, the ikea speakers play nice w/ sonos too?

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any feedback on quality of the $100 ikea speakers? Seems like a good first step to get a bunch of rooms wired up quick for a reasonable amount of money

clever mortar Aug 17, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Google has lots of answers to that, but from memory the bookshelf speaker isn't quite as good as the One

flat needle Aug 17, 2020, 7:46 PM

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of course. I figure it's equivalent to a typical smallish speaker

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but not as good as dedicated bookshelf dumb speakers at the same price point

clever mortar Aug 17, 2020, 7:51 PM

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I know folks with it who're quite happy. To be honest, given the option of a pair of those, or a single One, I'd go with a pair of the Ikeas

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I'll almost certainly replace the single One in my home office with a pair of the Ikea ones at some point

flat needle Aug 17, 2020, 7:52 PM

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I think I'm gonna just try it. Use is mostly for white noise at night anyway...

clever mortar Aug 17, 2020, 7:52 PM

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To be fair, a Home Mini will do that just fine

flat needle Aug 17, 2020, 7:53 PM

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I'm liking the sonos system though - music is a use we have - and I'd like to get whole house audio setup

clever mortar Aug 17, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Yeah, if you want actual music, there's little else that's HA compatible on the market at that price point

steel crag Aug 17, 2020, 9:02 PM

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I've setup a few whole house Sonos jobs and man I was never so jealous

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I mean they were also in USD$10,000,000 beach condos, but that part didn't make me green with envy. The electronics I spec'ed for the job did.

hushed basalt Aug 17, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Does it make you more mad when they have $100k of italian marble and spend $60 on some crappy router

static schooner Aug 17, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Marble routers are known to be unreliable

steel crag Aug 17, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Does it make you more mad when they have $100k of italian marble and spend $60 on some crappy router
oh I put in a Unifi system there 😄 the router was not crappy

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full harmony setup, sonos whole house, outdoor AP's for the pool and beach areas.... IP cameras.... in reality that place should have HA in it 😄

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well those places... the customer owned 5 of them identical

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each go for $10,000,000 .....

vagrant blade Aug 17, 2020, 10:42 PM

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random question: why don't you see some of the better IOT projects/HA projects become start ups/businesses?

hushed basalt Aug 17, 2020, 11:11 PM

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There's a deep valley between what works as an open source solution and a commercially viable business

forest edge Aug 17, 2020, 11:15 PM

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lol antifa went to sturgis

last dirge Aug 17, 2020, 11:16 PM

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@static schooner Jelle would disagree

glossy mortar Aug 17, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Whoop! No more fumbling for remotes when taking a phone call: https://github.com/DarkFox/ha-config/commit/285dd1943a8bba963f970748c9635478375acde3

GitHub

Mute or pause media during phone call · DarkFox/ha-config@285dd19

steel crag Aug 17, 2020, 11:42 PM

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ooooooh sm_g970

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nice

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but question, will this pause my son's media player if I'm getting a phone call?

glossy mortar Aug 17, 2020, 11:45 PM

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That depends on how you determine the active media player.

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https://github.com/DarkFox/ha-config/commit/53816d3396fad2d98a91e533f27e0c1530d20acc

GitHub

Prioritiesed active media player sensor. Move main media groups int...

…correct file

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I've got it set up so it looks at speaker groups first, then chromecasts, then the rest, and takes the first that's playing. That way it should always pause the correct thing.

steel crag Aug 17, 2020, 11:48 PM

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sounds awesome

tacit tapir Aug 18, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Could someone here help me with my probably very dumb question. I'm installing room-assistant on a pi0w following https://www.room-assistant.io/guide/quickstart-pi-zero-w.html#configuring-room-assistant I've done everything correctly but when trying to execute the room-assistant command it gives a command not found error...

room-assistant

Raspberry Pi Zero W

static schooner Aug 18, 2020, 12:22 AM

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It’s probably going to require some basic Linux skills

tacit tapir Aug 18, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Probably yea...

thick dragon Aug 18, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Likely the room-assistant binary is not in your PATH, so you're trying to execute it without being in the directory that it lives in.

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So probably missed this rather important step: cd ~/room-assistant

polar relic Aug 18, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Finished re-designing my dashboard tonight, complete with a new music preset selector, based on something I saw on Dr. Zz's Lovelace in one of his streams.

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steel crag Aug 18, 2020, 2:27 AM

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that looks amazing

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nice work

polar relic Aug 18, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Thanks man. I’m pretty pleased with how it turned out.

hushed basalt Aug 18, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Is that lovelace?

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@rare condor I'm looking forward to when I can put my servers back in a rack in the garage

rare condor Aug 18, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Mine lives in my Laundry Cupboard

hushed basalt Aug 18, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Mines in a beaureu next to me

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Fans and drives are noisey though

rare condor Aug 18, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Although as my dryer isn't vented, humidity gets crazy high

hushed basalt Aug 18, 2020, 3:00 AM

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All desktop grade fans too. Still a lot of noise

rare condor Aug 18, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Indeed servers should be away from any living space if possible

hushed basalt Aug 18, 2020, 3:01 AM

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You should splash some cash for a heat pump dryer

static schooner Aug 18, 2020, 3:01 AM

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Your dryer vents into the room?

hushed basalt Aug 18, 2020, 3:01 AM

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You'll make it up on electricty savings pretty quick

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Dryer vents are uncommon here

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At least any house I've seen

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And I've lived in 9 houses

static schooner Aug 18, 2020, 3:01 AM

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Where is that?

hushed basalt Aug 18, 2020, 3:02 AM

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Perth

rare condor Aug 18, 2020, 3:02 AM

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Last night I forgot to bring bed sheets in and I ran the dryer without opening window, walls were wet and dripping, even server was wet, surprised nothing bad happened 😬

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Heat Pump would be nice

hushed basalt Aug 18, 2020, 3:02 AM

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Our laundry doesn't even have a window and we dry everything

static schooner Aug 18, 2020, 3:02 AM

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That’s crazy. Lint and moist air

hushed basalt Aug 18, 2020, 3:02 AM

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And it's never wet

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Heat pumps for the win

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Between not needing to pull outside air in and the heat pump coefficient you'll save a lot quickly

rare condor Aug 18, 2020, 3:03 AM

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Indeed but also student 😋 so waiting until later life when money will go towards home improvement and less nightclubs

hushed basalt Aug 18, 2020, 3:03 AM

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Hehe

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Something about squirrels and grasshoppers

polar relic Aug 18, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Is that lovelace?
@hushed basalt Yes sir.

rare condor Aug 18, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Saving money at the moment it turns out when you can't go outside and curfew is at 8pm you tend not to do much at all.

hushed basalt Aug 18, 2020, 3:07 AM

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Perfect time to nab a deal on appliancesonline

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I need to make a dashboard

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But I need a house to mount tablets on the wall first

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I don't like using default lovelace on mobile

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I try not to use lovelace at all and rely more on real buttons, sensors and automations.

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But 7" tablets in each room would be great

rare condor Aug 18, 2020, 3:13 AM

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My next project is making a hydraulic crush bin. Generating too much Rubbish working from home

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Have a spare hydraulic and PLC kit

steel crag Aug 18, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Saving money at the moment it turns out when you can't go outside and curfew is at 8pm you tend not to do much at all.
try being on total lockdown, again for the 3rd time

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but then again I'm not saving money that I'm not making so there's that

rare condor Aug 18, 2020, 3:14 AM

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I am on total lockdown

steel crag Aug 18, 2020, 3:14 AM

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where are you?

rare condor Aug 18, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Melbourne Australia

steel crag Aug 18, 2020, 3:15 AM

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oh I thought we were alone in total lockdown, misery loves company so G'day!

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LOL

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after our prime ministers address the entire country mixed a stiff drink

rare condor Aug 18, 2020, 3:16 AM

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@hushed basalt btw my Mum's workplace got COVID and she was working with person who had it. It's really bad in disability care she had to work 30hrs non stop because they couldn't find any casuals willing to work in house with COVID outbreak. I am a bit worried but also angry.

hushed basalt Aug 18, 2020, 3:16 AM

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We want to extend our lease here for 4 months but they're pushing for 6 months.

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Even though we've changed our extension times to suit them twice in the past

rare condor Aug 18, 2020, 3:17 AM

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Annoying 🙄

hushed basalt Aug 18, 2020, 3:17 AM

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My old bosses wife works in disability care

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It's funny when casualisation of the workforce bites back

rare condor Aug 18, 2020, 3:18 AM

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The person who had it worked at 6 care centres and infected 7 clients

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Low immunity too so yeah it's not great

hushed basalt Aug 18, 2020, 3:20 AM

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Did they know they had it

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Or were getting tested

rare condor Aug 18, 2020, 3:20 AM

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Not sure, a lot of confidentiality here (covering ass)

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Anyway, I'm weighing up the cost of contacting media, but worried it might jeopardize her job, whistleblowing has repercussions. But what is happening isn't ok

steel crag Aug 18, 2020, 3:34 AM

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The person who had it worked at 6 care centres and infected 7 clients
@rare condor that's a crime here

rare condor Aug 18, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Casuals are still allowed to work at multiple facilities atm here which is stupid

hushed basalt Aug 18, 2020, 4:27 AM

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I wouldn't be surprised if they get 4 hours a week from some places

hushed basalt Aug 18, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Or less

west moss Aug 18, 2020, 7:23 AM

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im looking for the xiaomi plant monitor, or some offbrand copy that also works with esphome. anyone know where i can order it (from inside EU to avoid swedish china import tax)

last dirge Aug 18, 2020, 12:57 PM

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@west moss how much is the import tax? The sensors I can buy in the US are over twice what the cost from China is

light trout Aug 18, 2020, 1:07 PM

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@amber bramble You on 0.115.0.dev20200818 yet?

amber bramble Aug 18, 2020, 1:08 PM

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😂 not yet

light trout Aug 18, 2020, 1:08 PM

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😮

hushed basalt Aug 18, 2020, 1:12 PM

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If you're not running a bittorrent sync of the developers IDEs you're ancient history

west moss Aug 18, 2020, 1:36 PM

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@last dirge the inport tax from china is 17$ nomatter the price of the item

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so a 0.2$ item will cost 17.2$

last dirge Aug 18, 2020, 1:36 PM

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per item or per order?

west moss Aug 18, 2020, 1:36 PM

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per package

last dirge Aug 18, 2020, 1:36 PM

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oh

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then just buy like 6 of 'em

west moss Aug 18, 2020, 1:37 PM

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gonna see if more in swedish home automation groups might need to make a larger order, couse i only need like 2 😄

last dirge Aug 18, 2020, 1:39 PM

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buy more than you need and expect at least one to be DOA

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and expect the seller to ignore you

crimson coral Aug 18, 2020, 1:46 PM

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I have Hyper-V running Proxmox running Debian running Home Assistant on docker

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😱

light trout Aug 18, 2020, 1:49 PM

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I'm sorry, but WTF....

clever mortar Aug 18, 2020, 1:50 PM

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You missed running Docker in Docker

crimson coral Aug 18, 2020, 1:50 PM

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😂

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It's working pretty good tbh

dusky plank Aug 18, 2020, 1:51 PM

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I have a Intel nuc which runs simultaneous
Fedora with Docker and KVM running two virtual Machines with dedicated cores:
MacOs with HW acceleration via integrated Vega M and
Windows with HW accceleration with the Intel HD
All at the same time, I find it kind of crazy.

crimson coral Aug 18, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Wait i don't get it

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ok now I get it; docker & KVM run on fedora

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lol

dusky plank Aug 18, 2020, 1:54 PM

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yes and I can still run win and osx on their separate displays

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on a machine this big:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRMy_PaxrgmOC59mxaU9a1WITnecmKhvrMs-sg4OM-iK6N24QI-27IKeDzK_YO6eHTWpYAOvbAV&usqp=CAc

wet pilot Aug 18, 2020, 1:55 PM

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but_why.gif

dusky plank Aug 18, 2020, 1:55 PM

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BECAUSE

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I run mainly OSX on it because I like to but Play my games in Windows 🙂

crimson coral Aug 18, 2020, 2:02 PM

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i like it

last dirge Aug 18, 2020, 2:06 PM

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why the hell is FedEx messing with their tracking estimates?

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every single thing I've gotten from FedEx in the past month or so says it'll be delivered the day after the shipping label is created

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doesn't matter if the thing has even left the place where it was picked up

calm crow Aug 18, 2020, 2:52 PM

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I've got the Aqara cube

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Do people actually add stickers to them to show what they do?

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I keep forgetting which face is which 😂

amber bramble Aug 18, 2020, 3:05 PM

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I have 2 aqara cubes sitting on my desk i need to re-pair and configure again

wintry crater Aug 18, 2020, 3:15 PM

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I keep forgetting which face is which 😂
@calm crow russian roulette is fun

low harness Aug 18, 2020, 3:15 PM

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I have a piece of tape on each side. Pretty much never use it, though.

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What do people use it for anyway?

wintry crater Aug 18, 2020, 3:16 PM

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make it to say TTS with some answers, like a magic 8 ball