Champion of the sun
#the-water-cooler
scenic radish
unreal orbit
He’s a master of karate
scenic radish
And friendship
4 every1
@hushed basalt eh...I guess I got used to those pretty quick
The one that always throws me off is umount instead of unmount...
I should just give into my bad habit and make it an alias
hushed basalt
fleet swallow
I got HA installed on docker and it is up and running and it has some of my devices installed and working, but the docs say there is suppose to be a link to Hass.io on the left for more intergration but there isn't a link on mine. Any idea why? Or how to fix it?
thick dragon
@fleet swallow If you're running it through Docker, you don't have Supervisor, which is where the addons are. #449717345808547842 would be the channel for your installation method. If you want the addons, that would be #330990055533576204. If you're actually talking about integrations, they're in the 
menu.
fleet swallow
Basically I am missing Radarr, Google Maps, qBittorrent, Emby, Android TV and a few others. They never showed up or let me set them up or pick them.
These are all listed on the website. https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/#all
thick dragon
So... add them?
wet pilot
I don't think any of those are ui config
fleet swallow
how I don't see how and during setup they didn't show up under add +.
Sonarr was GUI added.
wet pilot
Sonarr isn't any of those
wet pilot
Go to the docs page for that integration, follow their instructions. #integrations-archived for more
fleet swallow
Okay no problem thanks.
forest edge
this would never fly for American television lol https://youtu.be/-aNgGNZW1Os
thick dragon
Kiwi marketing at its finest.
hushed basalt
Imagine watching that ad every night with your parents
Every second commercial break
wet pilot
Lol wow
forest edge
police strike on july 4th.. this should go well lol
fleet swallow
@forest edge LOL
ocean mirage
what are they even striking for
forest edge
look it up, many reasons lol
ocean mirage
did someones mcdonalds order take too long again
fleet swallow
Well LA police are pissed they didn't get paid for overtime. Atlanta cops are pissed they followed procedure and 2 officers got arrested because the mob wined.
Overtime for riots.
forest edge
I would not want to live in a big city by the end of this year thats for sure lol
fleet swallow
Minneapolis police are pissed because the city council is talking about defunding them totally.
Police are tired of being called racist and pigs and shot at and tried to be killed in the US and getting no support from cities, public or government.
ocean mirage
maybe they should quit
fleet swallow
Atlanta did a blue flu (police sick out) yesterday and calls went unanswered because they were under staffed.
fleet swallow
If police quit in mass it will be The Purge: USA version. It will be ugly.
ocean mirage
The Purge is already set in the USA lol
fleet swallow
New York is already seeing this with higher than normal level of police quitting.
wet pilot
Let's not discuss this topic here
ocean mirage
I think you overestimate how much these political footsoldiers serve and or protect the average person
fine
fleet swallow
If you want to see a mess look at what is going in Seattle in the CHAZ/CHOP. Already looting, rapes, shootings, beatings, and all kinds of stuff and the police won't go in to the area to police.
wet pilot
Last friendly warning
ocean mirage
lol yeah probably a good place to end it anyway
forest edge
@wet pilot sheesh. why you gotta start such political arguments in this channel haha
wet pilot
O.o
ocean mirage
we all saw, it was phnx
forest edge
wait that was a typo?
wet pilot
Autocorrect
wet pilot
Nah that's 🖕
forest edge
i know but i thought that was the classic phnx form like \o
wet pilot
Haha I should break our some asci art
forest edge
lol
fleet swallow
On a completely different note. What ever happened with the C by GE code? It looks like someone created it but it never got integrated. Anyone know?
wet pilot
I don't remember that one
forest edge
those even still being sold?
I vaguely remember a C collection by GE but thought they were discontinued
like old
wet pilot
Looks like as of 4 months ago dude might still be looking in to it. That code wouldn't work as is though since the integration code structure has changed significantly since that PR was originally opened
fleet swallow
Nope they are still around. https://www.amazon.com/GE-Lighting-26828-Starter-Piece/dp/B074JS48FD/
In fact Google updated google home and what not so you can link directly off the speaker to control them now. Only problem is like 5 max per speaker.
forest edge
GE was/is coming out with smart switches that don't require a neutral and nothing that doesn't require a ground. those are gonna sell like hot cakes
still plenty of homes without a proper ground wire in the US
fleet swallow
Yep
I got a ton of the C by GE bulbs cheap when a local store blew them out for like $5 per package of 2 bulbs.
The store got out of the smart home stuff.
forest edge
The store got out of the smart home stuff.
@fleet swallow weird, i mean good for them but weird
every store around here trys to cram as much "smart home" garbage up your keester than what can actually fit
fleet swallow
LOL
forest edge
wait did the channel names change again?
fleet swallow
I want to get a few IP cameras and some smart locks and eventually do my own home security, but working on it all slowly.
forest edge
I been playing so much rust that I have been alittle oblivious as of late
the only "smart" lock I consider is one that doesn't require any form of electricity
fleet swallow
I've been looking at one that still can use a key if everything fails, but smart otherwise.
wet pilot
The did slightly based on responses to a poll in the forums
forest edge
The did slightly based on responses to a poll in the forums
@wet pilot how long ago was this?
the forums is the one thing i don't visit enough
wet pilot
I think the poll has been up for a couple of days. Results were processed today
forest edge
ah ok, gladd it wasn't like a week old or something
might have had to question my senile'ness
fleet swallow
chuckles
gritty jewel
clever mortar
If you post their full username it's easier for us to ban them 😉
thick dragon
@fleet swallow: I've got a Yale smart lock and a few Wyze cameras. Going to set up another camera to point at the door on the weekend and hopefully toy around with object detection.
clever mortar
Got them now, thanks 😉
hushed basalt
Need to keep my eye out for WD 8TBs on sale
fleet swallow
@thick dragon I want to do some presences detection eventually. I saw a demo of one where they used bluetooth and could tell what room in a house the phone was in. Seemed kinda cool to me.
clever mortar
That's room assistant
fleet swallow
Seems cool but I can see it adds up quick might be cheaper just to do motion detectors in switches, since I was mainly thinking of using it to turn lights on and off.
In the movie Antitrust the main boss had something similar in his house where it would change art on the walls based on who was in the room, using monitors.
clever mortar
Also, tracking phones isn't that useful
fleet swallow
The art was monitors framed like paintings or posters or whatever.
you could do the same thing with tracking smart watches.
They are typically bluetooth.
clever mortar
Sure, but all that is really tracking the devices, not the people, and doesn't account for guests
fleet swallow
There is no realistic way to track guests other than give them a badge or something or simple motion.
clever mortar
Simple motion is the most reliable, affordable, way to track people (and pets)
Radar is a less affordable but more effective way
fleet swallow
I'm a hermit so I don't really have guests in my home. LOL
clever mortar
The dev of HA SwitchPlate made a version that used radar for presence detection (https://community.home-assistant.io/t/ha-switchplate-diy-lcd-touchscreen-wall-switch-replacement/25464)
There's also https://www.xandem.com/
fleet swallow
I was originally looking at something like this: https://www.amazon.com/White-Motion-Sensor-Light-Switch/dp/B0799QTXX5/
clever mortar
The only problem I find with just motion detection is that people have a nasty habit of not moving enough to re-trigger
You need to account for that, with automations, other detection, careful placement of sensors, etc
fleet swallow
Yep
hushed basalt
Tasers in seats
clever mortar
Load sensors everywhere
hushed basalt
Connected to tasers
clever mortar
Or, if you have cats, laser pointers so you can get them exercising
clever mortar
What's the @ bit?
gritty jewel
@midnight adder
halcyon bridge
thanks 👍🏼
clever mortar
Looks like we had a flood about 8 to 10 hours ago, and a trickle since
halcyon bridge
That timeframe fits pretty good to when that message was sent
forest edge
Or, if you have cats, laser pointers so you can get them exercising
@clever mortar i dunno if this means you havve cats but holy hell indoor cats are lazy as shit lol
where the hell is atx? did he stay up too late and now sleeping his normal hours away?
hushed basalt
Did you see my Aussie Bites
forest edge
sounds like norwat coding
this is the weekend myq dies. tired of the light turning on when the door is closed because of the delay of the api when the automation is set to turn on the light when the door is opening/opened
hushed basalt
Need some enterprise ssds for my new server build
No point putting consumer ssd in a zfs mirror
dusky plank
i once transformed wd green drives (power saving, cheap) to red ones (24/7 nas) with wdidle3.exe - they still run in my nas...
not sure if you can apply sth like this to ssds, don‘t think so 😛
forest edge
@dusky plank a little more to a nas drive than just power saving
swift niche
Where would I direct questions on the logbook?
clever mortar
rare condor
Lol at me running Samsung 840evo with no Raid as main Server drive running 20 VMs
hushed basalt
No raid is better than raid for a consumer ssd
rare condor
you sure about that, I think raid 1 would make more sense in most contexts?
hushed basalt
That raid won't feel very nice when you replace a bad drive and it has to write out the new one
Consumer ssds are worse than hard drives for sequential writes
clever mortar
Depends on your SSD
rare condor
in terms of failure?
hushed basalt
In terms of the SLC layer filling up
It's like SMR
Complicated slow write processes on the main bulk on the ssd
It just hides it with a super fast layer
Like 70MBs range
rare condor
Sure but old school saying RAID is not a backup, having two drives is nice as if one fails even consumer grade you have a system which still runs
Then you restore from your backup and go about your day
hushed basalt
True but your writing ability will be tanked during that rebalance
So you have to be aware of it at least
rare condor
Out of interest where are you guys storing offsite backups?
rare condor
meh you need to pay for an apps account and who knows, maybe one day stops working
hushed basalt
Yeah that's my other reservation
B2 is atleast object storage so unless they massively fuck up or shut down they will keep it
As you're paying for it completely
rare condor
I have an education account but I don't use it for this reason
hushed basalt
I mean you could always use it
And change if it looks like it's going away
How many GB do you want to backup offsite
rare condor
70TB
hushed basalt
Don't offsite your linux ISO:)
Probably do some pruning too :D
But 10TB is probably $50USD a month on b2
rare condor
ok nvm
hushed basalt
I would either a) set up a simple NAS at your parents house and backup to that
Or use google cloud
Google drive will be the cheapest by far
Here's me with my 7TB lol
And 1TB I care about
clear ferry
That isn't so much, I have 4TB in Google drive already, pretty sure @boreal pewter has 40
hushed basalt
60TB is a lot of linux isos though
rare condor
whats a good enterprise ssd for raid 1 (home server) cheapish
hushed basalt
Ebay
hushed basalt
Hmm not sure on particulars
But see what's available on ebay in the price bracket you want
@clear ferry will know about the particular technologies you'll want
Even if he has to throw up in his mouth a little bit when you say SATA
hushed basalt
I wouldn't ask serverbuilds.net they're all fools who use silicon power ssds
Homelab discord would be more up to date
rare condor
yeah I just looked there and I was like wtf every drive is consumer?
hushed basalt
They're all enterprise nerds
Serverbuilds has a lot of unraid users 🤢
Man this 15% import tax on overseas purchases is bullshit
rare condor
what?
hushed basalt
Thanks Gerry Harvey
rare condor
I thought it was 10
hushed basalt
It's rolled into the duties
And "other fees"
So buy something for $100 usd, pay $15 usd on top
Adds an extra sting
It's not a fixed percentage, i think it depends a lot on class of goods and country of origin on that component after the 10%
But you pay the 10% GST on the product, shipping and duties not just the product
rare condor
Looking at SSDs I have no idea too many options at wildly different price ranges
no idea why some are like $100 and other $600 with similar speeds and endurance
boreal pewter
dusky plank
hushed basalt
My server migration would be a shitload easier if I had some more hdds
My I don't want to buy aussie 4TBs for the price of shucked Amazon US 8TBs
Or Amazon US sale 10TBs
But I don't want to wait
last dirge
any of you folks have a hybrid water heater?
unreal orbit
Hybrid like it heats water and makes toast?
scenic radish
Hybrids are something the liberals invented to cover up that the earth is actually flat
last dirge
it's a heat pump with electric strips
scenic radish
No, read above
I like the one @ocean mirage said the other day: "time is something the capitalists invented to sell clocks" lmao
About died laughing at that one
tidal bronze
@last dirge never heard of that one.
timid warren
I've been thinking about a hybrid water heater - it would server the dual purpose of cooling off my storage room. Finding solid numbers on cost recovery is tough.
scenic radish
reminds me, i'm supposed to do a long-term cost analysis for my condo board this weekend on buying LED lamps rated for enclosed fixtures vs. buying the cheaper non-rated lamps and no lie i'm too excited about it
not only do i like doing analyses like that but i also am particularly interested in lighting in general
last dirge
@timid warren my utility offers a credit if you buy one
and it's about the same price as a high efficiency water heater
scenic radish
do the strips just kick in when faster heating is required like when lots of hot water is being used at once?
timid warren
Cool. Mine does not. My WH is 15 years old, not efficient at all. A standard replacement would be $700 vs. $2000 for the nice hybrid.
@scenic radish - yes. Works like emergency heat on a heat pump.
scenic radish
nice, makes sense
that's kind of what i was thinking. makes sense to apply the same concept to a water heater
tidal bronze
@last dirge why not tankless
last dirge
because there's only 2 people in the house
@scenic radish yeah, same as a heat pump for HVAC
if it needs more capacity than just shifting heat will allow it turns on the strips
unreal orbit
And gas is cheaper than electricity here
scenic radish
there are gas tankless
unreal orbit
Oh yeah 🤦
tidal bronze
Yep. Never think about gas cost at all.
unreal orbit
Honestly just forgot those existed 
scenic radish
some (all?) require larger pipe that not all households may have though
tidal bronze
Larger output meter as well
last dirge
my meter is directly on the other side of the wall from where the water heater is
timid warren
The model I'm looking at has wifi - but I couldn't think of a plausible integration with home assistant.
hearty depot
my coffe tastes like crap but pipelines are passing.. I'm not certain if it is a good day
timid warren
last dirge
but between them is an 8" concrete wall
tidal bronze
@hearty depot my tankless got wifi but pointless
unreal orbit
What is it supposed to give you? Change temp on the fly?
tidal bronze
Well only use case would be long term vacation and reducing the temp for circulation.
timid warren
Change modes (vacation, eco mode - disables heat strips), get notifications of problems
scenic radish
hopefully that works locally
hushed basalt
I'd love a connected hws
last dirge
from what I remember when I was in Aus a LOT of houses had solar water heaters
hushed basalt
Between that data and control, solar generation and consumption you could do some real smarts
scenic radish
wicked smahts
hushed basalt
Yes it's fairly common probably less so now
Instantaneous gas has taken a lot of their thunder
I'm a fan of heat pumps though
tidal bronze
Tankless and circulator FTW
tidal bronze
Yep. Hate waiting for hot water on any faucet
hushed basalt
Doesn't that require the tankless to be constantly firing though
tidal bronze
Fires a little more than not having one but I like the convenience
hushed basalt
Most tankless ive seen here have quite high minimum firing points
So they will just overheat and shutoff
And you have cold water until it cools down and fires back on
And so the cycle continues
dusky plank
district heating ftw
tidal bronze
Circulator models are slightly expensive than the stock ones.
hushed basalt
My goal is to have a heatpump HWS
And have it go to max safe temp when I'm producing surplus PV
And then dial back the thermostat when there's not surplus
Use the extra thermal energy in the tank as a battery of sorts.
As a 70 degree tank can deliver a lot more warm water than a 50 degree tank of the same volume
There's more ways to take advantage of surplus PV than dumping it in a powerwall
last dirge
Tesla just cut prices and increased output on their panels
clear frost
I moved from a PI3 to NUC I5 SSD... VM is running at AVG 60-80% is this normal ?
clever mortar
60 to 80% of what?
clever mortar
Maybe
scenic radish
clear frost
@scenic radish sorry new to DC will ask #330990055533576204
last dirge
what the hell do the channels mean any more?
unreal orbit
They all have descriptions in case you are confused 🙂
unreal orbit
Has anyone been using the github redesign preview? The repository refresh is... not great imo
brazen fable
github is going to be a hotmess for a long while
light trout
I love the new look
unreal orbit
I like the design update, just not the repository refresh
Releases are even more difficult to find and it squishes the readme to the side
I never understood why releases weren't on the same level as code, issues, and pull requests
light trout
It is with the one of the GitHub extentions
light trout
Not sure and don't remember, I used one in the past, but never got around to it again when switching browser
unreal orbit
The only extension I'm currently using is github dark theme
unreal orbit
ooo desktop PWAs support chrome extensions now. interesting
clear ferry
My tomatoes are loving this hot dry weather
scenic radish
You have tomatoes in Nørwåt?
unreal orbit
Touchscreen windows 😱
unreal orbit
No you weren't 
clear ferry
spare quest
I am about to have what I believe is referred to as "a bad day".
spare quest
It's a Drobo. It'll be my last Drobo.
clear ferry
I have never seen a drobo in real life, I wanted one 15 years ago
last dirge
@clever mortar you around or nah?
I used to have a Drobo
then I got a Syno
Syno beats the hell out of the Drobo
spare quest
Well, there's a Synology next to it. But I kept the Drobo because there's like 18TB in it. I suppose more accurately, there was like 18TB in it.
spare quest
I'll find out after it cools down and I try to start it up.
I went to check on it when I noticed an NFS mount was down and discovered it doing this.. no fan, drives all spun up, hot as hell and giving off the distinctint smell of overheated electronics.
Too bad I didn't have home assistant collecting metrics on it.
clever mortar
I'm around now...
clear ferry
Good thing about proper arrays
Just move the disks
The metadata is spread across the drives anyway
I've moved 150 drives after the entire array was soaked in water from a burst pipe
Everything worked fine after wiping the drives down
last plaza
clever mortar
Yeah, I've shuffled disks between arrays many times
Scary the first time, and maybe the second. Not so much after a while
last plaza
No water damage to the drives? Drives are water proof?
clear ferry
Helps with proper hardware 
We replaced all the drives after moving data to a second array
We don't trust them, but they worked fine for 2 weeks while we copied
Not a single one was failed
last plaza
cool
clear ferry
But the disk enclosures and controllers were blinking like a Christmas tree
Because the control boards were submerged
clever mortar
A, the blinken light scenario
clear ferry
spare quest
I can neither confirm nor deny requesting backup tapes from off-site storage and having them show up at the data center soaking wet because the delivery truck had a leaky roof.
clever mortar
I can neither confirm nor deny that all the backup tapes turned out to be blank, due to a fault with the write heads, and that it was only discovered when they were needed for disaster recovery.
clear ferry
I can confirm I transported five racks with mp5 armed security once, and it was interesting
last dirge
@clever mortar what do you call the tool used for loosening fasteners that's got a closed end on one side and it's open on the other?
last dirge
what about this?
last dirge
what about this?
clever mortar
Weird ass thing
last dirge
here's a more traditional one
forest edge
tongue depressor
last dirge
that's the only one of those tools I'd call a spanner
clever mortar
Yeah, but that's 'cos you lot speak another language 😛
last dirge
what do you call the tool that's got a handle and changeable sockets?
forest edge
thats for loosing and tightning the attachments on a grinder
last dirge
used for the same types of fasteners as a spanner
clever mortar
Well, that's a spanner still
If it's for nuts, it's either a spanner, or a nut cracker
clever mortar
See above
last dirge
you'd call that a spanner too?
clever mortar
Posh term would be torque wrench if it's got a torque setting
last dirge
"hand me the spanner"
forest edge
socket wrench
last dirge
"no not that spanner, the other spanner"
clever mortar
Yup
last dirge
"no, not that spanner, the other spanner"
last plaza
https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/397426163649216512/723620113076453407 I was looking for one of those for my bicycle yesterday to replace the sprocket
clever mortar
The hitty one
last plaza
Is Ratchet a term in UK?
last plaza
not sure what that is... ratchet set is this https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/397426163649216512/723620511548178542
last plaza
I find VISE-GRIP as one of the best tools to have in my tool box
last plaza
specially this oe
last dirge
it's rarely ever time to reach for the locking pliers
that is adjustable pliers
made by the Vise Grip corp 🙂
who got famous for making locking pliers
last plaza
that's not what Irwin calls it... 😛
last dirge
@clever mortar may be more familiar with Knipex
clever mortar
Bless you
last dirge
right?
last plaza
lol - knipex is supposed to be german brand and a good one?
forest edge
i dunno when you buy Chinese stuff that comes with it's own screws you need vvice grips to remove the screws after the head breaks off
last dirge
Knipex is badass
last plaza
yup
clever mortar
Mostly I pay people to repair stuff 😛
last plaza
sometimes I see knipex tool set goes on sale, and I jump on it
last dirge
did you buy whatever tool you were looking at before?
I think a low rating torque wrench
last plaza
I was looking for torque wrench, I ordered it on amazon - getting it on July 2nd
last dirge
I sent a bunch
unreal orbit
July 2nd
last dirge
the Park was one of the more expensive options
last plaza
yup - Park TW-6.2 $124.95
it is supposed to come in a nice blue box...
I was also looking at AC Delco torque adapters - they seem to be fun
they are cheaper - 60 bucks
clear ferry
We just say fastnøkkel and skiftnøkkel
last dirge
a guy I know has two categories of tools
power tools
"all day" tools
if you don't use power tools, it'll take you all day
last plaza
lol
if you ain't got all day, use power tools
@clear ferry I'll have one shitnøkkel please
last dirge
does that come with lingonberry sauce or is that extra?
last dirge
knucklebuster
forest edge
more curious how norwegians handle situations where they need a helping hand since they can't stand to be near one another. i mean do they make special helping hand type thing like for soldering but bigger or what
last plaza
they use robots i guess
clear ferry
We just do everything ourselves 
last plaza
again, there is a risk if the robots are made in norway, they don't work with other robots well either
lol
forest edge
they look like this https://risus-mysterymen.neocities.org/inspirations/blankman/j5.jpg
clear ferry
We actually have quite a few big robot companies tbh
forest edge
quick johnny 5.. to the blankmobile!
last dirge
did anybody see that Boston Dynamics has offered Spot for sale to anybody with 75K?
clear ferry
And ironically we have a huge weapons industry even though we hardly ever engage in war
last dirge
did you see Adam Savage make his Spot pull him around in a Rickshaw?
last plaza
yup - I watched that too... I watched another episode last night about a refrigeration suit, I really liked it
last dirge
have you watched Tech Ingredients n YouTube?
last plaza
☝️ the guest is super knowledgeable, and explained things really well in the whole process
Tech Ingredients? No.... need to check that out
last dirge
the guy is super geeky
but he knows a lot of stuff about a lot of stuff
he had a video a few weeks ago about concentrating the ethanol in distilled spirits using a molecular sieve
pretty damn interesting
they've got an ongoing series where they're building an electric propulsion catamaran that uses a module from a Tesla S pack
last plaza
added to my list... I' sure I'll watch a few tonight
dusk lodge
it's annoying me because i'm forced to buy a different brand and I already have LIFX :/
clever mortar
Who'd have thought that fancy ecosystems would be pricy
clever mortar
I think you know the answer 😉
You're paying for the brand/ecosystem, not a light level
unreal orbit
🍎 E C O S Y S T E M 🍏
dusk lodge
HomeAssistant time I guess...
TP-Link's lights also don't have an API
no way for you to sync them to video or audio properly
bit annoying but its not the main room light anyway
unreal orbit
Not living in darkness 🤢
clear ferry
🕶️
forest edge
zigbee 🤢
weird they havven't come out with something new yet. in between z wave and zigbee
unreal orbit
fiery sorrel
pff, wireless bulbs 🤢
Wireless wall-switch all the way !
😛
eternal talon
@clear ferry Zbee means my dick in Arabic
May anyone be kind enough to tell me how I can set up remote access for my home assistant, I tried the duckdns method but Port forwarding with google WiFi is a hassle and a pain in the ass so...I’d be very grateful.(am I supposed to send this in this channel?)
fiery sorrel
i would use Nabucasa if you can't port forward, and i don't think it's the right channel no :)
clever mortar
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/remote-access-for-home-assistant/206072/ covers you, but this is the wrong channel
clear ferry
Then that is out of the question @eternal talon 
dim ginkgo
What do people use for automating tasks on a pc from Home Assistant? I'd like to be able to add some things to my automations like launching a particular piece of software, or changing the monitor configuration
tidal bronze
Eventghost
unreal orbit
iotlink might work as well
spare quest
The good news is the Drobo started up fine after cooling off. The bad news is the fan is indeed completely dead. The worse news is that in the process of moving it to diagnose the fan, it decided one of the drives was removed and has now started a 60-hour rebuild. With no cooling, that is not going to go well. But powering it off risks destroying the volume. Sometimes I hate computers. Aiming a fan at it while I make up my mind whether to just scrap the damned thing.
calm crow
Any good sources/tutorials on getting started with Conbee2 on Hassio (raspberry pi)
calm crow
quite difficult to get started 😦
dusky plank
@calm crow I don't have conbee :/ maybe try in #integrations-archived or #hardware-archived
static schooner
you're really better off in #zigbee-archived, where I pointed you to several times
maybe I'm on ignore?
calm crow
I 'cross posted' got a warning
Felt discord was quite quiet as it's 1am
so i was just messing around with it in bed - got it working now
last plaza
Who here dared to ignore @static schooner
static schooner
Fear me
last plaza
You still got blood red color on you
static schooner
red badge of courage
ocean mirage
RobC is all orange and makes me think hes some super mod
static schooner
the scarlett letter
last plaza
lol
ocean mirage
and then I look and hes just got too much money 😉
static schooner
just some guy who was gifted some red privilege
ocean mirage
u rn
last plaza
Cool! Buy me Coffee or Buy me Color.
green inlet
OG @static schooner
static schooner
while you're here, check out my SoundCloud 🙂
green inlet
🤔
static schooner
j/k
fleet swallow
Anyone have a recommendation for a smart thermostat? I have a NEST currently but I want something that works with Home Assistant and doesn't require connecting to the cloud.
last plaza
good luck with that
fleet swallow
Why?
last plaza
Hard to find something these days that doesn’t connect to cloud.
fleet swallow
😦
green inlet
Nest Dev ....I am OG Nest
last plaza
lol. I still got old nest thermostat. Not sure if google still lets you make api calls.
fleet swallow
Well nothing will connect with Nest these days since they dumped works with Nest, and I didn't make a Nest dev account in time.
last plaza
I used to have Ecobee lite... that was too lite for me.
green inlet
A while back, there was an announcement that HAss was going to try and become a 3rd party whatever with google/nest. Since then it has been very quiet
dusky plank
made my own with rpi and relays, heating only though
rain swift
how much does nitrobooster cost?
last plaza
You can use generic_thermostat component by rolling your own. It’s pretty easy.
@rain swift I think $6.99 a month
rain swift
and it let's you.......
green inlet
@rain swift , OG nitro, if you have to ask, you can’t afford it. Right @static schooner
rain swift
use more emoji?
static schooner
you know it
rain swift
yeah 6.99 a month, that's baller money.
last plaza
Not just emojis. Animated emojis.
static schooner
with so much free chat out there
rain swift
i'm po folk, I'll just use the free ones.
green inlet
I don’t even know what that is
rain swift
it's to support....discord owner getting a new porche.
last plaza
That guy is a dick. If you don’t know him, his name is Ajit Pai. He was going to regulate internet.
ocean mirage
oh that guy
rain swift
don't worry, they scan everything in that place with all the globes in australia lol
and I think there's a place in utah?
green inlet
Ska, they added more porn on the global emote hunter served 🤣😳
last plaza
Yep. He is against net neutrality
rain swift
Utah Data Center
"a data storage facility for the United States Intelligence Community that is designed to store data estimated to be on the order of exabytes or larger."
green inlet
I am always on iPad so the emojis are small. Hard to even see who they are
rain swift
I bet @clear ferry has an exabyte for his movies.
last plaza
lol
dusky plank
makes me wonder when starlink is live... does it need to send double BW when its all tapped?
last plaza
@green inlet you joined global emote hunters?
I don’t see any free emotes
we're turning space into a dump before we even live there.
@rain swift humans!
rain swift
it's what we do lol.
dusky plank
more space junk - less earth warming. -> profit!
rain swift
yeah, block the sun LOL
dusky plank
trust me. I‘m an engineer
rain swift
build a dyson sphere around the sun, we'll be alright, we can use LEDs.
green inlet
I did, I haven’t taken the time to figure it out though
last plaza
Yeah. All emojis I see are grayed out.
dusky plank
how do I join these global emote thingies?
green inlet
I just end up on the free porn.....something about Ctrl r but it doesn’t work on iPad
last plaza
lol. On ipad, you close and open the app again. Same with iphones.
green inlet
While you are on the server
last plaza
It shouldn’t matter.
green inlet
But then how do I use the emojis?
last plaza
When you close the app and restart, it loads all emojis apparently
last plaza
If you have access to global emojis, they automatically show up
last plaza
lol.
green inlet
🌮🍌
last plaza
NSFW
green inlet
Lmao
dusky plank
I can see the emotes now but theyre grey
green inlet
Ok, I am going to close discord app and reopen
last plaza
Same here. They only have a few free “global” emotes. You have to join like 10 servers before you see some good ones.
green inlet
Auh, yea, I am already close to deleting the single emoji server.
Not joining a bunch more
last plaza
Yup. I don’t like these servers.
green inlet
Me either
last plaza
I have a clean discord. Just HA and personal server. That’s all.
green inlet
I was on my iPad the other day and someone started saying “hello”. I was like wtf. I was still in some stupid voice channel
last plaza
🤣
green inlet
Porn not worth it Ska 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
green inlet
Ok, yes. I have seen his videos. His laughs. Funny
ocean mirage
dusky plank
I got this video suggested literally 5 minutes ago
green inlet
That guy is funny
hushed basalt
@rare condor which HBA card did you use
last plaza
Lmao. There are many flavors of the same video. Just like the hitler videos.
@green inlet watch this. Hitler got corona virus. https://youtu.be/m5R0UHGh8vA
green inlet
Ha. They always use that one for college football. I haven’t seen the corona version. Standby.
last plaza
Ending is funny. I bet Costco has run out of toilet paper... who wants chinese food? 😂
fleet swallow
I may be way off base but it looks like the best way to do a cloud free thermostat is to get a Tuya based Thermostat and then reflash it with Tasmota firmware to remove the cloud stuff. Anyone messed with that?
green inlet
@fleet swallow , timing man.....we are doing funny stuff
I have some alarm.com thermostats I will sell you though 😉
dusky plank
please no fun in here, I can't take it anymoar
hushed basalt
You can always directly connect your hacky thermostat to the heater/whatever it is
Then use cheap tablets as wall panels
green inlet
Nest are the best thermostat on the market. Buy them and 🙏
dusky plank
fleet swallow
@green inlet I have Nest and you have to let Google Cloud take it over. Which sucks. I don't need or want Google looking over my shoulder and there is no API for them anymore.
green inlet
@fleet swallow , I will trade you straight up. My adc t200 for you nest
I have 2
Actually, I will give them to you.
@dusky plank , how does that look on your wall?
dusky plank
nothing on my wall, works with automations
last plaza
Where does the rainbow wire go from RPi?
dusky plank
8 channel relay
last plaza
Ah!
Could you have done with ESP8266?
Unless you have HA running on that RPI, ESP maybe sufficient. Isn’t it? I ran one or two relays. But not the 8 Channel relay
dusky plank
yep I could, but I had the pi laying around
plus: this space is in my entry and the pi converts analog video from a peephole camera with a usb video grabber to h264 and streams it to my HA, so I get a notification when my bell rings and no one notices I have a camera there
last plaza
cool! Is that like a DIY peephole camera?
dusky plank
nope, its a amazon peephole cam let me get you the link...
last plaza
Don’t see it in the picture. I did those diy cameras using old web cams and motion software and integrated with HA.
Don’t worry. Not a big fan of amazon products. We don’t use them at home. Bought 4 and gave them all away.
dusky plank
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01E960Q5Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
this one, not using the monitor though just the cam
last plaza
Cool. I haven’t seen them in the USA.
I have bullet cameras on my front door. So folks know to smile when they are at my front door.
unreal orbit
My PTZ camera points at the door when someone rings the doorbell
last plaza
Cool. I installed camera right above doorbell. When someone approaches door, I’d know it before they hit the bell
green inlet
Which PTZ camera?
last plaza
Pan tilt zoom
You can actually move the camera programmatically, tilt and zoom towards subject.
green inlet
Ska, I am dumb, not that dumb 🤣🤣
unreal orbit
last plaza
lmao. I know you have struggle with the acronyms 🤣
green inlet
I have hiks but not PTZ
unreal orbit
It's not rated for outdoor, but it's under the eave so I'm not too worried
last plaza
Does your hik support exir?
green inlet
Ok. I am that dumb. Don’t know what exir is
last plaza
I’ve put xiaomi motion sensors outdoors, not directly exposed to the elements, they work fine. I have had them outdoor for 3+ years.
unreal orbit
I think that's the only device I have outdoors. The camera I have in the backyard is actually outdoor rated, but it's also under an eave
last plaza
Helps you with better quality at night. It can capture color video even under low light.
green inlet
Arm rest. I dint buy them cause they are not outdoor rated. Everyone using them outdoor though
unreal orbit
I've been very impressed with the quality for how cheap they are
last plaza
Yup
unreal orbit
Kinda annoying that they're one of those camera companies that says ONVIF that aren't actually certified though
last plaza
You can safely install cameras and devices as long as they are under shade and not directly exposed.
green inlet
Ska, I have 2142s
last plaza
Hmm...
My camera notification automations are crazy. They are tied to image-processing with TF.
green inlet
Where in the hik setup is exir?
last plaza
It has to be supported by the hardware first .
green inlet
I need to setup TF but I have been pretty happy with where I am. Object recognition is a whole new rabbit hole
last plaza
Pretty easy these days. Worth setting up. You will have fun. Occasionally it does funky detection
dusky plank
I only have motion detection, guess TF is quite demanding for rpis
last plaza
not really @dusky plank
green inlet
Yea, I went to an i7 NUC just for object recognition but haven’t done it
last plaza
the models are pre-trained. it really doesn;t require a lot of procesisng power
green inlet
I really wanted facial recognition but realized that was a whole new ballgame
last plaza
@green inlet you can do that with facebox.
that was my first HA integration, where I trained my family members pictures, so that it knows our family members
dusky plank
well my door cam is analogue, so 576p and no more. propably TF detects BIG and SMALL pixels 😂 I don‘t need it yet
green inlet
But you changed? Why?
last plaza
It was a trial license
green inlet
Auh, how much to keep it?
last plaza
no idea - they were really targeting small to mid size businesses - like $100 a month or something
with that money, I could buy a camera a month 😛
green inlet
Yea, I ain’t paying that. I ain’t got @clear ferry money
dusky plank
i believe amazon has a similar service? may be cheaper
last plaza
yes, they do.... Amazon Rekognition
It has become commodity these days, no need to pay anyone
green inlet
Night night kids. I have to build houses in the am. Peace to you
last plaza
rare condor
@hushed basalt LSI 9211-8i previously an IBM M1015
hushed basalt
Is that pcie 3.0
quartz ether
Yup. They are on ebay for cheap af and they are great cards
rare condor
Yeah purchased mine for $80AUD, currently runs a MIX of SAS drives and SATA enterprise hard drives. I bought the hard drives 7 years ago used and they are still going strong!
scenic radish
@last dirge that mini PC I linked a few weeks ago that you liked is down from $109 to $99
rain swift
re-liinnkk
scenic radish
I did have to exchange it for what appears to be a faulty SATA controller so just a heads up
rain swift
looks like a decent HA machine
scenic radish
It is. It's only a dual-core 1.6 GHz Celeron but it does have burst up to 2.5 GHz which is its saving grace in my mind
rain swift
yep
scenic radish
There's one with two NICs for about 190 USD
rare condor
a lot more 🤑
dusky plank
y not just a usb3 eth dongle?
rain swift
why not just use a router..
last plaza
@scenic radish that mini pc is so cheap, you can literally stick it on the back of your TV, completely hidden.
rain swift
do it
last plaza
do it
dusky plank
do it
scenic radish
@last plaza it actually comes with a mount for the back of a display lol
I mean...do it
And it comes with an 18" HDMI cable
last plaza
What are you waiting for? The deal may not last long. Time is running out.
rare condor
I like pfsense
scenic radish
I feel like you're making fun of me for my HA hardware skala 👀
dusky plank
these mini pcs come with a separate psu? believe so..
100$ is a lot when you compare it to this beast
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07MXVVMGH/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3DP652LVG64G5&psc=1
rain swift
I love my netgate 3100 with pfsense
last plaza
I’m not joking or making fun. I’ve purchased so many different types of hardware in the past. It is a good learning experience for everyone no matter what.
I got Mac mini’s, laptops, desktops, RPis, ESPs, server hardware...many more. All fun.
scenic radish
It was quite a nice bump up from the pi 3B+
last plaza
I still got RPi2s I think. I got like 10 of them, not buying anymore for a while 🤣
scenic radish
Heh yeah I think you're good for a while
I realized having something as simple as a hardware clock is important to me
rare condor
@rain swift $399 USD 😲
rain swift
yeah, but it'll handle gig down with IDS/IPS running
otherwise get the 1100
it'll still do 500 down
scenic radish
Yeah...so my cell phone's signal strength is -117 dBm
Guess that's what I get for living in condo building made of brick veneer, CMUs (concrete masonry units) and concrete ceilings/floors
dusky plank
gprs ftw
rare condor
@rain swift sure, but my edgerouter x cost $50USD and can handle close to gigabit speeds with hw acceleration, albeit there are some downsides but still 6 times less
scenic radish
I like my ER-X
rain swift
can it though
I wanted all the features and functions/ the IDS/IPS, and didn't want to be nickle and dimed by ubuiti lol
its all good, this firewall should last me many years.
dusky plank
anyone here have 2way audio working in homekit for doorbells?
hushed basalt
You're a doorbell
dusky plank
still no HA action for you?
rain swift
boooo
hushed basalt
I want to pull the syno drives into Ubuntu and see if I can pull the linuxisos off it
But takes time
dusky plank
what makes these isos so special? can't you just download them?
send magnet link! do it!
hushed basalt
Will just chew my usenet block account
rain swift
usenet
hushed basalt
My primary usenet account is unmetered and so is my internet
But still
4TB is a long time over 80Mbps
rain swift
4TB of what?
dusky plank
whats up with special 4TB linux isos in usenet?
hushed basalt
I thought you were a GEP gun
scenic radish
Wut?
@last plaza I'm gonna keep the mini PC I have for now and just save up to buy a ballin NUC or something in a few years
scenic radish
I'm trying to stay under a certain price point and it's not going well lol
scenic radish
or something
clear ferry
scenic radish
Oh that's what that's from lmao
young palm
Hi, new to HA here... say if I was a complete noob, and struggling big time to get a basic Z-wave stick up and running, and have tried looking at multiple guides/videos/resources, would there be a way I could seek some kind of assistance (paid if need be) from this discord community?
scenic radish
#zwave-archived would be a good place to start. Make sure to mention what you're having trouble with
young palm
Thanks. I feel that because my questions are so 'beginner level' that i don't want to clog up the feed with really basic stuff... or do you think i should just ask in there anyway?
wet pilot
#zwave-archived would be best for zwave questions
Otherwise #hardware-archived could help further
scenic radish
Well have you read the docs?
hushed basalt
I wonder if I should convert one of my optiplexs into a gateway/router etc
scenic radish
That's where you should start first. #zwave-archived with questions after reading that and trying it out if you're still not able to get it
young palm
OK. I have read everything but I will go back and do it all step by step again and ask in #zwave-archived if I'm still struggling.
wet pilot
@hushed basalt doit
hushed basalt
I'm sick of having a $30 router
And i don't want to spend $400 on a minipc with dual wan
scenic radish
Edgerouter X a potential option? Or do you have gigabit, can't remember
Wait. $30 router, nvm
hushed basalt
Nah I want something more open than ubiquiti
I think I literally have an X in a box somewhere
forest edge
I thought there was consumer routers that supported zwave/zigbe dongles to be plugged into them
unreal orbit
That sounds like one big point of failure 🙂
hushed basalt
I don't think we can do true high availability in a domestic setup
Without a lot of gear
And if my router dies I'm not going to be doing much anyways
So I can always put the NIC in another optiplex, restore VMs from backup and carry on
What if my ISP modem dies, what if a tree falls on my powerlines and knocks out power, etc etc
scenic radish
@forest edge that's news to me
hushed basalt
Yeah it'd cost me $400 minimum to do something like that
forest edge
@scenic radish cant look it up but pretty sure I saw a router support it somewhere
wet pilot
I'm one of the lucky few in the us to have 2 providers available via 2 technologies. Fiber and DOCSIS
hushed basalt
Looks like the directories I care about are recoverable
Synology is a bit of a mess
It's all encryption on btrfs on lvm
Daughter nearly turned off the computer half way through a transfer
Big bright blue led button on the case
Hmm do you think I still need my cached thumbnails from my XBMC installation
forest edge
I'm one of the lucky few in the us to have 2 providers available via 2 technologies. Fiber and DOCSIS
@wet pilot may you burn in hell lol
forest edge
lol
wet pilot
Which I have actually managed to saturate
forest edge
my options are docsis or dial up labeled as at&t fiber
wet pilot
With a legal download believe it or not
Att fiber plus spectrum cable here. I apparently could get "gig" from spectrum too but I'd have to pay to have them install it and use their equipment
hushed basalt
I might go dual wan when we have a house
calm crow
Anyone have any issues with iOS HomeAssistant and trying to get the sensors to sync?
wet pilot
Exactly. Hence "gig"
hushed basalt
Fixed wireless of some sort
wet pilot
@calm crow #ios_and_mac-archived
calm crow
@wet pilot you rascal
wet pilot
Though att fiber isn't fully gig most of the time either
It's closer though and with lower latency
forest edge
at&t says it's fiber but that crap is not fiber.. maybe at some point along the line it has fiber but it certianly is not fiber lol
wet pilot
I'm FTTH
forest edge
KC got google fiber when that came out but it never reached me
wet pilot
Ont box in my office
forest edge
course google fiber has taken a huge dump lately
wet pilot
I need to call to bitch at spectrum to get them to bury their line though
Been a month already
forest edge
the coax the neighbor mowed?
wet pilot
Nah, that was the att glass
forest edge
oh
wet pilot
The spectrum line was also cut though at some point
forest edge
not sure what the tool is they use but you could do it yourself if it's just laying on the ground
it only goes in a few inches and thats it
wet pilot
Fuck that 😂
wet pilot
Eh coax is a bit too thick for that
They ran the line up along the house too so it's less likely to happen there
At least it's not in the mowing path
forest edge
google says trenching shovel but i am sure i saw them use something more specialty
wet pilot
For fiber they will sometimes use a fork looking tool to push it in
Att actually cut it into the dirt this time though
Trenched under my driveway too because I made sure they didn't take the lazy way this time
forest edge
i imagine they get more shit for not properly burying the fiber line than those who bury coax
wet pilot
Yeah, much more of a pita to spice fiber. Most will just straight up replace it rather than deal with it
Whomever laid the runs for my neighborhood did it stupid though. Closest. Node is 5 houses down from me instead of doing it every 2 like they're supposed to
So they had to run something stupid long
forest edge
lol
wet pilot
There's conduit from the node to the front of my house though
forest edge
yours on a pole or one of those ground boxes?
wet pilot
In ground
forest edge
well 5 houses seems about right. I think they do that here. my cousin has that and IO don't recall seeing a box every 2 houses
mines on a pole
wet pilot
Att tech and the bury techs were bitching about it when I hauled them out
forest edge
i'm sure. alot more work when you are the last house on a run lol
wet pilot
The run was longer than the supply of fiber they ship their techs out with. Dude wanted to replace the run but couldn't
forest edge
strange
wet pilot
He had 200ft in his truck. My run was about 1200
wet pilot
Yup, would be enough for pole on the property to the house though in most cases though department of redundancy department
forest edge
well i imagine they will be forcing us all to go wireless soon enough
wet pilot
They'll try
forest edge
people here already bitching cause sprint wanted to put 5g relays on some of the poles through the nbeighborhood lol
wet pilot
They can pry my 2 hard-line connections from my cold dead hands
forest edge
lmao
I love how my cities reddit went from hundreds of posts about BLM and the police to "where can i get covid tested?"
was a hard switch too, not gradual. hundreds of one type to hundreds of the other lmao
then of course you get random posts about someone in the woods operating a flame thrower and a video with all these "kids" saying, "wow cool!" and "omg they are going to burn the whole place down"
wet pilot
CLT subreddit had been pretty stable throughout. The local state senator posts regularly though which is cool
forest edge
interesting. I would stay away from reddit or social media in general if I had an "office" job lol
too much drama
wet pilot
Lol
rare condor
So this is pretty dumb but I never realised I was supposed to vent my Dryer, I always just opened a door when it ran on humid days.
forest edge
what do you mean vent? on a gas dryer or electric?
rare condor
Electric Vented
rare condor
yeah has lint catcher but I never vent it, has worked like this for 20 years
Would get less efficient as humidty rises
hushed basalt
I have a condensing heat pump
I'm certain the extra cost has paid for itself very quickly in power savings
Plus all the water goes down the drain
rare condor
Yeah it seem Australian's just ignore the need for a Vent
hushed basalt
Yep
rare condor
Heat Pumps obviously way better but $$
hushed basalt
Australians ignore the need for lots of things
I got it quite cheap from JB Hifi
It was about the same as a standard dryer of those features
Like automatic stop etc
rare condor
I was speaking to a builder and he said he had never installed one for a vented dryer...
hushed basalt
Plus venting would demolish your heating and cooling costs
hushed basalt
Well if you vent the air
You have to make it up with outdoor air
So it's like leaving a window open
rare condor
no worries, Australian houses are designed with drafts for this purpose anyway 😛 😅
hushed basalt
:'(
Builders here don't even know what a heat recovery ventilator is
Our electrolux heat pump dryer was about $800 I think
Works great. Gentle. Works on wool
rare condor
damn thats cheap af
hushed basalt
Yeah I think it was $1200rrp
I asked the saleswoman what she could do, it was floor model and I guess she just wanted it gone
rare condor
Are heat recovery ventilators completely passive albeit the fan and do they run 24/7?
hushed basalt
But appliancesonline has models from $600-$2400 atm
Besides the fan yes
They're just air to air radiators basically
rare condor
yeah makes a lot of sense
hushed basalt
They have variable speed fans but they would generally run full time
rare condor
It would really only make sense if the fan is triggered by humidity or CO2 level
hushed basalt
Plus they can have summer bypass
rare condor
Do they have wall controllers?
hushed basalt
Yeah the one I had in accomodation in the UK had GPIOs for control
rare condor
I'll admit I never knew about them
hushed basalt
Plus a wall controller
rare condor
interesting
hushed basalt
They have in and out fans too
Independently controllable
And summer bypass when outdoor air is better than indoor air and you don't want to heat exchnage it
The other big thing is the filters as well
Basic prinicple seal the house airtight, then all your intake goes through high quality filters
And a rougher filter on the exhaust so you don't clog the HRV honeycomb
rare condor
Fair I recently bought Xiaomi Air Purifiers after the Bush fires
hushed basalt
Yeah similar principle. Although if you had a passivhaus with a HRV you wouldn't even notice the fires indoor
You'd probably have to change your filters though haha
The basics are. Houses should be sealed airtight. But then we need a way to get fresh air and remove pollutants. But we don't want to waste all the energy we've put into/removed from the air, so let's recovery some of it and bring in filtered fresh air at a dedicated location
I think good systems will wind down the exchange rate when there's not much CO2 or humidity being produced. And ramp it up if you have a house party or long showers etc
They actually replace your exhaust fans too etc
rare condor
yeah makes sense
hushed basalt
No vented rangehood too
The practice seems to use carbon filtered unvented rangehood
Then the HRV exhausts the general kitchen
Plus in Australia the only people who have these are rich dentists and the likes, so they'll probably just use their $50k outdoor kitchen to cook smokey stuff
Cries in wealth inequality :'(
forest edge
we have no vented range hoods. infact most above stove microwaves don't offer a vent option for the rang vent built into them
mine dosen't even have carbon filters. just mesh
clever mortar
Vented hoods here, at least on many new builds
Whether there's a filter or not varies a lot though
I'd rather a sealed house with HRV, but 🤷
hushed basalt
If it's vented the filter is just to protect the fan
forest edge
don't see a point to a filter if vented to outside
clever mortar
Cuts down on the crap going into the extractor 😄
hushed basalt
You don't want your fan getting covered in a layer of grease