#the-water-cooler | Home Assistant | Page 406

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 9:53 PM

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This is the exact one I bought

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 9:53 PM

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what's that in 🦅 dollars?

clever mortar Dec 21, 2019, 9:54 PM

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$20 😛

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Fifteen boxes of cherry Coke

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Yikes

midnight adder Dec 21, 2019, 9:59 PM

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what do you guys use those for?

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 10:01 PM

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Routers

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 10:04 PM

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Pouters

midnight adder Dec 21, 2019, 10:05 PM

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hypothetically, if i had a friend who didn’t know the difference between that and a consumer router, how would i explain the difference to them? 😅

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 10:06 PM

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This is better

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Is that a good explanation? 😛

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 10:08 PM

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lmao

midnight adder Dec 21, 2019, 10:11 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

clear ferry Dec 21, 2019, 10:12 PM

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pepeRunningCrying

midnight adder Dec 21, 2019, 10:13 PM

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what software do you run to manage that?

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ive never really thought about this kind of stuff

wet pilot Dec 21, 2019, 10:14 PM

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pfsense is the software

static schooner Dec 21, 2019, 10:32 PM

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pfSense will require a processor that supports AES-NI soon, so I recommend looking for a box with that. The J1900 boxes don’t

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It was supposed to be required in 2.5, but the requirement was just removed. If you’re buying new, buy future proof

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I just upgraded to this: Firewall Micro Appliance with 4X... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072ZTCNLK?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 10:39 PM

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oh boy, i'm about to learn regex in my python tutorial...

storm summit Dec 21, 2019, 10:43 PM

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anyone know what frenck finally decided to get as a new server?

light trout Dec 21, 2019, 10:55 PM

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https://assetsds.cdnedge.bluemix.net/sites/default/files/styles/big_2/public/feature/images/potato_pc.jpg?itok=yvuy1BJ3&c=28f1b46be9014c033f7c5d34e1d03eb9

hushed basalt Dec 21, 2019, 11:10 PM

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What do you think the advantage of getting a new random computer over getting a second hand sff for pfsense

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Besides size

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@scenic radish the only way to win at regex is to not play

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 11:29 PM

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I also have watched WarGames

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We might have discussed this

hushed basalt Dec 21, 2019, 11:52 PM

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Basically use regex as a last resort

scenic radish Dec 21, 2019, 11:55 PM

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Good to know, thx

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 12:04 AM

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You shouldn't use it much in python tbh

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 12:05 AM

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Yeah I was kind of wondering what some actual uses would be

wet pilot Dec 22, 2019, 12:06 AM

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some very specific cases but not very often

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the basic string manipulation functions can handle most of your use-cases

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 12:18 AM

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Yeah you'll find you'll parse the data first and then use normal python manipulation

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For example, say you have an API that returns json and you want to know the temperature.

{ weather: 
    { temperature: 21, 
       humidity: 0.51 }
 }

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I'd do something like

weather = requests.get(url)
json = weather.json

Then you just end up with a normal python dictionary with nested lists etc.

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json.get("weather").get("temperature")

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I've probably made a mistake but that's just from memory on mobile.

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But if I tried to use a regex to get the weather from the raw json string, it might work but it'll be an unreadable mess and edge cases would screw me

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Readability is king too

valid halo Dec 22, 2019, 12:55 AM

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Did someone say Reg Ex?

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👀

wet pilot Dec 22, 2019, 12:56 AM

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as infrequently as possible 😛

valid halo Dec 22, 2019, 12:59 AM

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I had to use Reg Ex for my DEPRESSION METER. each hour my phone texts my bank for my account balances and then displays them on my home screen

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 1:02 AM

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Yeah reg ex is pretty depressive

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😁

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 1:28 AM

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Wouldn't it be nice if banks just gave you a read only api key

wet pilot Dec 22, 2019, 1:38 AM

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probably hard to do with their backend still in cobol

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 1:51 AM

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I was going to make that joke lol

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Even neobanks don't do it, at least in Australia

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I'm not sure what this open banking thing is but hopefully that should solve that

static plinth Dec 22, 2019, 2:03 AM

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I'm so over light switches.

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New construction where the builder comes in and does all the light switches and then you come in and rewire all the light switches to be Z-Wave smart switches is so beat. Voice commands eliminate the need for analog switches we don't need any more! Get rid of them!

wet pilot Dec 22, 2019, 2:07 AM

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lol not as WAF or GuestAF friendly

static plinth Dec 22, 2019, 2:07 AM

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What we need are hard wires for smart curtains, motion detectors, and door window sensors. Not stupid light switches that are ridiculous the retrofit and don't do anything afterwards other than look ugly

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Especially dimmer switches man

wet pilot Dec 22, 2019, 2:08 AM

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5v DC wiring everywhere

static plinth Dec 22, 2019, 2:08 AM

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Preach

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So they have a dimmer switch on a wall you take a regular light switch, put in a smart Switch behind it, then a smart plate in front of it. Also you can walk over to the wall and smudge it with your finger. Way too much time for everyone involved

green inlet Dec 22, 2019, 2:11 AM

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@scenic radish , what are you doing to learn python. I want to do the same?

regal linden Dec 22, 2019, 2:19 AM

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If anyone here is using multiple Network cards with Homeassistant, would you mind if i asked some questions about your networking setup?

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I've given homeassistant two NICs which are on separate vlans (LAN & IOT), but some devices on the IOT vlan don't seem to communicate with homeassistant (although they show online in ESPHome)

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 2:22 AM

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@green inlet this: https://automatetheboringstuff.com/chapter0/
And this: https://docs.python.org/3/

green inlet Dec 22, 2019, 2:25 AM

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Thanks.

wild grove Dec 22, 2019, 2:26 AM

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@regal linden I do not but that hass installation type do you have and are your iot wired or wireless

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What* hass installation type. (On mobile)

regal linden Dec 22, 2019, 2:27 AM

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my hass installation type is hassio on a proxmox container

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the networks are all wired

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i can access homeassistant from both NICS (10.0.7.10 and 10.0.6.10)

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but my device 10.0.6.158 isn't reporting to homeassistant

wild grove Dec 22, 2019, 2:29 AM

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Can the hass container ping it?

regal linden Dec 22, 2019, 2:29 AM

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it does however show as online in ESPHome (which is running as a hassio add-on)

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i think so, let me check

wild grove Dec 22, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Add-ons are containers under the hood right?

regal linden Dec 22, 2019, 2:31 AM

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yes the ping works

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from the container

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yes i think think they are docker containers to

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tho*

wet pilot Dec 22, 2019, 2:31 AM

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they are

wild grove Dec 22, 2019, 2:31 AM

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Can you curl . 158?

regal linden Dec 22, 2019, 2:31 AM

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my homeassistant installation is an LXC container

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linux container

wild grove Dec 22, 2019, 2:32 AM

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Ok

regal linden Dec 22, 2019, 2:32 AM

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curl 10.0.6.158

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failed to connect

wild grove Dec 22, 2019, 2:32 AM

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So they listen on port 80?

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Do*

regal linden Dec 22, 2019, 2:32 AM

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no i don't think so

wild grove Dec 22, 2019, 2:33 AM

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Add : port

regal linden Dec 22, 2019, 2:33 AM

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i'm not sure what port they listen on

wild grove Dec 22, 2019, 2:33 AM

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K

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Are DHCP assigned values correct? Subnet mask specially

regal linden Dec 22, 2019, 2:34 AM

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I believe so, i've assigned the static ips to both nics

wild grove Dec 22, 2019, 2:34 AM

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How about the devices

regal linden Dec 22, 2019, 2:34 AM

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subnet 24

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they didn't change since i added the NIC but i'll double check

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interesting i don't see an ip config for those devices at all in ESPHome

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maybe that means they default to DHCP

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the config in ESPHome looks like:

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  ssid: WIFI-IOT
  password: !secret wifi_iot_password
  reboot_timeout: 0s
  fast_connect: true```

wild grove Dec 22, 2019, 2:36 AM

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Esphome api port looks like 6053 if my quick Google is right

regal linden Dec 22, 2019, 2:37 AM

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forgot this device is wifi

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ok, i'll try the curl

wild grove Dec 22, 2019, 2:37 AM

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Do you have a sep said for iot vlan?

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Ssid

regal linden Dec 22, 2019, 2:38 AM

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yes

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its WIFI-IOT for iot and WIFI-LAN for lan

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curl on port 6053 does return an empty reply

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which i assume is a success

wild grove Dec 22, 2019, 2:40 AM

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DHCP is giving out correct ips for the respective vlans?

regal linden Dec 22, 2019, 2:40 AM

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yes the IOT vlan is on 10.0.6.x and the LAN vlan is on 10.0.7.x

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homeassistant has a 6.x and 7.x address

wild grove Dec 22, 2019, 2:41 AM

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Yeah that should be enough to prove connectivity between ha and device

regal linden Dec 22, 2019, 2:41 AM

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and everything is on the /24 subnet

wild grove Dec 22, 2019, 2:41 AM

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Odd. Well rule one then. Reboot it all

regal linden Dec 22, 2019, 2:41 AM

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yeah its weird that ESPHome shows the devices as on but lovelace shows them as off.

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i did try the reboot on homeassistant but not on proxmox yet

wild grove Dec 22, 2019, 2:42 AM

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Ok rule two. Hit it

regal linden Dec 22, 2019, 2:42 AM

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lol

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Hit it worked!

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no joke

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Lovelace shows the devices now

wild grove Dec 22, 2019, 2:42 AM

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Usually does

regal linden Dec 22, 2019, 2:42 AM

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🤦‍♂️

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wow

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i guess just giving it some time sorted things out.. could have been something dns/dhcp related

wild grove Dec 22, 2019, 2:43 AM

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Yeah. Or you had to assert dominance

regal linden Dec 22, 2019, 2:43 AM

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i'm really looking forward to having homeassistant connected to my lan and vlan.

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i'll be able to restrict internet access to the IOT vlan while retaining internet access to the LAN vlan

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keep those pesky Chinese cameras away from all my lan goodies

wild grove Dec 22, 2019, 2:45 AM

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Yeah. I like isolation and no internet for them

regal linden Dec 22, 2019, 2:45 AM

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Thanks for the help

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 3:27 AM

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@green inlet corey schafer on youtube is great too

steel urchin Dec 22, 2019, 3:32 AM

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whew, finally got ALL the stuff from the old house to this new house

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 5:20 AM

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@hushed basalt I feel like I'm behind where I'm supposed to be at with automate the boring stuff so I might have to check out his videos next

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There was a "project" at the end of one of the chapters that I wasn't even close to being able to do

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 5:21 AM

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I wouldn't bother reading the python docs they're quite dry

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 5:21 AM

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This was automate the boring stuff

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 5:21 AM

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Realpython is good for written stuff

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And digital ocean

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 5:21 AM

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But yeah, those docs are not n00b friendly lol

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 5:30 AM

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Nah they're pretty friendly

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You could also try coursera.

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Any particular points you're getting stuck on

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https://youtu.be/rfscVS0vtbw

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Also I've heard good things about freecodecamp ^

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 5:34 AM

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I'm understanding everything to this point, but I was given a task at the end of one of the lessons that I couldn't figure out for the life of me lol

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So understanding, but not able to apply things yet

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Definitely gonna look at freecodecamp, thanks

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The practice project at the bottom of this page is what I couldn't do. I could only get it to print the first list in a single column, not all three lists in three columns: https://automatetheboringstuff.com/chapter6/

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Of course, I'd imagine that's not exactly devastating to my prospects of learning Python lol

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 6:07 AM

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Interesting problem

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I'll have a hack at it tonight

wet pilot Dec 22, 2019, 6:07 AM

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i hate stuff like that 😄

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 6:09 AM

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Kids these days

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 6:19 AM

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Probably the sort of stuff you'd never do in real life

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Like a puzzle more so than a real problem

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 6:22 AM

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https://i.redd.it/228lthk183641.jpg

wet pilot Dec 22, 2019, 6:23 AM

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yeah, us drivers are exceedingly stupid as a rule

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 6:24 AM

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I always see the weirdest car crashes when I drive in the US

wet pilot Dec 22, 2019, 6:25 AM

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add idiot tractor truck drivers to the mix and its a hot mess

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 6:25 AM

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My favourite country to drive in is probably the UK, the least favourite is France

wet pilot Dec 22, 2019, 6:25 AM

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i've head that germany is fun

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 6:26 AM

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Yeah, I haven't driven there yet, just been a passenger

wet pilot Dec 22, 2019, 6:27 AM

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i'd like to drive the nordschleife on a touristenfahrten one day

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 6:29 AM

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What's so fun about the UK

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 6:29 AM

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I have no idea what either of those are ThinkEyes

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@hushed basalt scenery and food, I always take the back roads

wet pilot Dec 22, 2019, 6:29 AM

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helps if i get the spelling right

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 6:29 AM

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People are very polite in the UK which I like

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 6:30 AM

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@wet pilot oh the nurnburgring, though about renting the wife in for a few laps there

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 6:30 AM

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Paris has the beautiful women though

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But no politeness

wet pilot Dec 22, 2019, 6:30 AM

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apparently more politeness in france outside of paris

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 6:30 AM

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No

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 6:30 AM

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Same with London. Everyone who's rude in London it's a 3/4 chance they're from Paris

wet pilot Dec 22, 2019, 6:31 AM

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yeah, want to bring the wife, she might rather watch though

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gets a bit twitchy if i push things in a car

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 6:31 AM

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All French people are a pita, I often go to Grenoble and surrounding areas, they are still.... French ThinkEyes

wet pilot Dec 22, 2019, 6:32 AM

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lol

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and french canadia is bad too

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 6:32 AM

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Paris had pros and cons

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It's annoying going to a busy area and getting hassled/watching for pick pocketers every 5 seconds

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 6:33 AM

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Speaking of Paris, this is hilarious

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 6:33 AM

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Same with Rome

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 6:33 AM

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome?wprov=sfla1

Paris syndrome?wprov=sfla1

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 7:09 AM

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My culture is pretty shocking

wet pilot Dec 22, 2019, 7:12 AM

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as is mine...shockingly bad

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typical 'murican

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though i do have my passport at least

midnight adder Dec 22, 2019, 7:36 AM

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I was in Rome not too long ago

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It was a beautiful city, but I don’t think I could live there 🙂

steel urchin Dec 22, 2019, 7:54 AM

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watchin this Ronnie Chieng special on Netflix... actually laughing at a netflix comedy!

strange vapor Dec 22, 2019, 9:22 AM

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@wet pilot We've had US staff turned back at the Airport as they don't have a passport, even when warned :/

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Didn't need it for internal flights, so why would they need it for international!

echo tide Dec 22, 2019, 9:35 AM

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@clear ferry I find most people in the south of france (near the spanish border for instance) are pretty relaxed...

steel urchin Dec 22, 2019, 9:52 AM

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clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 9:56 AM

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@echo tide haven't been that far south ThonkEyes

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@strange vapor lol muuuuurica

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https://i.redd.it/nm1e3tgwf2641.jpg

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Interesting, I haven't seen it in Norway, but saw it on Reddit 😂

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 10:19 AM

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📎 15770099819396362077300791668056.jpg

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@clear ferry

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Although the "developers as seen by sysadmins" one should be a picture of a god.

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 10:28 AM

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I might be a sysadmin at heart ThinkEyes

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mngggh

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when plex won't index a series

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and you have tried renaming it five times

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 10:35 AM

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Check your agent order

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I try to get sonarr to do my metadata though

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 10:41 AM

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hmmm

valid halo Dec 22, 2019, 12:21 PM

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Gotta say these days I feel an underlying annoyance/jealousy towards Linus

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He gets all this cool free stuff/HAS MONEY

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I should probably work on that

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is not healthy

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 12:34 PM

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React is on my learning todo

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Then I'll be able to hack my own radarr

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With great power comes great procrastination

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@clear ferry i think I have radarr and sonarr as agents in plex

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And I have plex configured as connected destinations in radarr and sonarr

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So radarr/sonarr tell plex when an item has been added to the library, and plex uses the metadata from radarr/sonarr to populate the metadata in Plex

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 12:58 PM

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@valid halo he's probably a see you next Tuesday though, I'll pick you

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@hushed basalt interesting, I haven't done that yet

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 1:00 PM

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I'm pretty sure things show up in plex with metadata <1 minute after downloading this way

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Although to be honest I don't watch the queues, most things download during the morning in my timezone

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https://forums.plex.tv/t/rel-radarr-metadata-agent/236046

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https://forums.plex.tv/t/rel-sonarr-metadata-agent/231126

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clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 1:04 PM

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I need to look into that for sure

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 1:40 PM

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One of my coworkers got me these "beard ornaments" lol

📎 IMG_20191222_073111.jpg

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And yes, those are RGB

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 2:40 PM

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If I only could grow a beard

valid halo Dec 22, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Hearing my mom whine about the Automated Verizon Phone system

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I just want to laugh

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It's been this way for a decade mom

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and she always speaks so firmly at it. "PAY NOW."

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she acts like it's the biggest hassle in the world

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 3:40 PM

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I remember we had that for cinema tickets

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In 1998

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They removed it in 1999

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Hello, and welcome to MovieFone

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 4:51 PM

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https://i.redd.it/3cbfjtwx46641.jpg

valid halo Dec 22, 2019, 4:51 PM

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Ooft

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Don't hurt me HA-senpai

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Compiler could not compile code because git gud

valid halo Dec 22, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Git Gud is not a proper command. Please try again

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 4:54 PM

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sudo !!

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One of the IT guys at work was unconvinced that sudo is a good idea for security

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I explained it's more for convenience than security lol

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But if you have someone with physical access that wants to do something bad they'll figure out how

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 4:57 PM

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sudo make me a sandwich

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Btw, physical access is full access

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 4:58 PM

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Yeah

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That was my point

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 4:59 PM

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sudo give me cherry candies

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 4:59 PM

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Lol

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No sudo needed 😉

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You already have elevated access 😉 😉 😉

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 5:00 PM

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ugh uwu

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 5:01 PM

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You always have the best emoji lmao

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 5:02 PM

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NotLikeDuck

valid halo Dec 22, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Physical security is easy. Opening the case pulls the pin on a grenade. No computer no problem

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I am very smart

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👍

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 5:05 PM

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You should see some of the systems I have to access OMEGAPEPEGAROLL

wet pilot Dec 22, 2019, 5:11 PM

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Using sudo logs the actual user who ran the command in the audit logs. If you're logged in as root, you lose that

smoky oxide Dec 22, 2019, 5:11 PM

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.. only if there are any logs left..

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😉

wet pilot Dec 22, 2019, 5:11 PM

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Lol

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 8:01 PM

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Why is daily in quotes?? 🤔 🤨

📎 IMG_20191222_135847.jpg

clever mortar Dec 22, 2019, 8:01 PM

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Because the slice it every day, just maybe the stuff you're getting is from last month 😛

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 8:01 PM

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Better than the fresh in quotes ThinkEyes

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Well I suppose it is cured meat...

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Also salami is delicious

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 8:02 PM

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But what if sliced was in quotes ThonkEyes

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 8:02 PM

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I guess it's mainly fat and salt after all

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Grocery store I go to all the time had some screamin deals today. Bag of day-old Italian herb and garlic sub rolls for $0.25, container of potato salad for $0.69

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 8:05 PM

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holy motherino

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I'm always surprised by the prices of food in the US

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I would be so fat

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 8:06 PM

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The store is called "food 4 less" after all lol

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But it's all good quality stuff

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These sub rolls are amazing

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 8:06 PM

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Like, a container of pototo salad here is... $3.50

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in a regular grocery store

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 8:07 PM

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This is a 1 kg container if that helps

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Normal price appears to be $1.42

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 8:07 PM

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this is a 0.3kg one probably

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 8:07 PM

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😱

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That's a snack

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 8:08 PM

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yeah

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a bag of salami, 200g is... $5.50

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the regular one

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 8:08 PM

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That's crazy

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Checking the exchange rate though

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 8:08 PM

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https://kolonial.no/

Kolonial.no

Norges største matbutikk på nett og mobil. Velg blant over 6000 varer til lavpris og kjøp middagen med et klikk.

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This will show you some prices over here

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 8:09 PM

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Oh. 1 NOK = 0.11 USD

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 8:09 PM

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that is why I'm giving you the prices in USD so you don't have to 🤣

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 8:10 PM

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Makes sense lol

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Eh, multiply by 10 and you're close

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9 and you're basically spot on

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 8:10 PM

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relevant to your interests @clever mortar https://www.marsipancompagniet.no/my-product/1kg-julegris/

Marsipan Compagniet

Nassim

Julegris: 1 kg Marsipangris | Marsipan Compagniet

Ønsker du deg en stor marsipangris til Jul? Dette er en julegris som har hatt mange grisunger og kan spises med god sammvittighet.

clever mortar Dec 22, 2019, 8:11 PM

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🤤

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 8:11 PM

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For some reason a .no domain seems funny to me

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hell.no

light trout Dec 22, 2019, 8:11 PM

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https://www.hell.no/

clever mortar Dec 22, 2019, 8:11 PM

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yes.no

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 8:11 PM

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Excellent

smoky oxide Dec 22, 2019, 8:11 PM

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ew, those are terrible prices

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 8:12 PM

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I'll take a picture for you next time I drive past Hell @scenic radish

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 8:12 PM

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Do any of you guys also serve those trays of crackers with various cured meats at parties? Because those are my favorite

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I would buy one of those trays for myself

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Party of one 🎉

light trout Dec 22, 2019, 8:13 PM

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My kind of party 🎉

smoky oxide Dec 22, 2019, 8:13 PM

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mm, i like them too. most of my friends are more into cheese though 😦

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 8:13 PM

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You mean like "Snitter" @light trout ?

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 8:13 PM

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I don't like cheese

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Although I like pizza so I guess I sort of like mozzarella

light trout Dec 22, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Snitter works, as long as there are not any other folk there 😉

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 8:14 PM

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I eat most cheeses

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not marzu karzu though

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casu_marzu

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Good lord

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not fit for human consumption

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Oh lawd have mercy

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There are quite a lot of good french cheeses

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but some are... just too smelly

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 9:46 PM

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Hmm haven't updated my media Docker images in 4 months

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This is going to be a painful pull

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 9:47 PM

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I think I'm gonna watch that four hour Python tutorial tomorrow

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Some "fun" on my day off

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Wth, 63 cars in a crash in Virginia

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According to Norwegian news

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 9:49 PM

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wut

clever mortar Dec 22, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Normal day in /r/idiotsincars

scenic radish Dec 22, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Yup

clear ferry Dec 22, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Or what are winter tires, we don't need those zombie

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2x Google nest mini 2nd Gen for $80

hushed basalt Dec 22, 2019, 9:59 PM

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That's the price for one here

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Strayatax

dark sparrow Dec 22, 2019, 11:09 PM

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So, I've just learned that the HA Cast interface for the Nest Hub is interactive 😮

storm summit Dec 22, 2019, 11:30 PM

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/12/22/virginia-crash-35-hurt-63-cars-collide-icy-interstate-64-bridge/2727582001/

USA TODAY

63 cars crash on icy Virginia bridge: 35 injured, some critically ...

More than 60 vehicles were involved in chain-reaction crashes on an icy, foggy Virginia bridge Sunday, injuring 35 people and shutting down I-64 in both directions on a busy holiday travel day.

scenic radish Dec 23, 2019, 1:01 AM

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Title: "...51 injured, some critically"
Body: "Most injuries were minor and none were life-threatening..."
🤔 🤨

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Either way, scary stuff

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 1:08 AM

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Southern va doesn't get a lot of ice

scenic radish Dec 23, 2019, 1:26 AM

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Brb, gonna plug both ends of an Ethernet cable into my unmanaged switch

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 1:35 AM

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Lol ded

scenic radish Dec 23, 2019, 1:44 AM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/ed80b555f45bb8cfa9f9101246ba6ba0/tenor.gif

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Pretty much

astral pulsar Dec 23, 2019, 2:04 AM

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Proxmox or ESXI go!

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 2:22 AM

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Different use cases ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

astral pulsar Dec 23, 2019, 2:37 AM

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Any one paying for a VMUG membership? You find it’s worth it?

hushed basalt Dec 23, 2019, 5:05 AM

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I've thought about buying another sff server and using proxmox on it for pfsense and management plane

thick dragon Dec 23, 2019, 5:47 AM

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WTF. Just got a notification that my Telco apparently has planned maintenance from 24/12 through to 02/01.

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Better fucking not be without internet for my entire fucking holidays!

scenic radish Dec 23, 2019, 5:47 AM

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lmaoooooo

ocean mirage Dec 23, 2019, 5:48 AM

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forcing you to spend time with family the scallywags

scenic radish Dec 23, 2019, 5:48 AM

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oof

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am i the only one here who finds that word even more offensive than fuck? lol

thick dragon Dec 23, 2019, 5:49 AM

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Depends how many Aussies there are in here. "Cunts" is a pretty Aussie saying 😛

scenic radish Dec 23, 2019, 5:50 AM

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🍤 🍤 🍤 🍤 🍤 🍤 🍤 🍤

ocean mirage Dec 23, 2019, 5:51 AM

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I fixed it just for you

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 5:51 AM

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Haha

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I'm desensitized by it. Worked Aussie hours for a year

scenic radish Dec 23, 2019, 5:54 AM

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oh i don't mind, but i know tinkerer was a little upset when someone used that word lmao

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i just meant in the scale of bad words i place that one higher than fuck

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 5:56 AM

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Context is key I guess

ocean mirage Dec 23, 2019, 5:56 AM

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I generally only drop it around company that I know it wont bother, but it slips out sometimes lol

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I don't want to offend anyone

scenic radish Dec 23, 2019, 5:58 AM

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i think it's hilarious

hushed basalt Dec 23, 2019, 6:35 AM

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📎 JPEG_20191223_143509.jpg

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These automatic blinds look interesting

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Not sure where the winder is

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Other side

📎 JPEG_20191223_143541.jpg

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Must be internal

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 6:38 AM

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tmw you drilled holes ~16" apart, the stud finder said there was a stud, and it kinda sounded like it too... only to find it is somehow an odd false positive (100% accuracy) and the studs are actually 20" apart...

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Hi is anyone on

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I was wondering how hard it would be to build this and an estimate of the costs for a queen size frame?

📎 image0.jpg

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This is an idea of one frame

📎 image0.jpg

hushed basalt Dec 23, 2019, 7:58 AM

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I would check the build materials list for that instruction

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Cost would just be those length of lumbers, hardware and sealants etc

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Very location dependant

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It probably wouldn't be cheaper than a generic ikea frame but would be a lot stronger

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My guess is it needs to be anchored to the wall as well

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Or be extremely heavy

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Otherwise it'll tip when you sit on the end

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 8:00 AM

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Yea ty for the help, i would just get an ikea one but i cant find any

hushed basalt Dec 23, 2019, 8:01 AM

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Yeah not like that. Definitely a custom build

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Looks like very simple joins so you could do it all with a drop saw

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Just don't use treated pine indoors

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 8:02 AM

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Ok i dont have any equipment but my dad does so he will probly help me lol

hushed basalt Dec 23, 2019, 8:03 AM

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Also to be honest that doesn't look supportive enough for me

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The mattress area that is

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It depends on the type of mattress. But you might find that certain mattresses will sink between the gaps

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And therefore not be as supportive for you in those areas

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Unless you had extra slats laid on top. Which adds cost.

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 8:05 AM

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Well would i be able to add a boxspring on top do u think then the mattress

hushed basalt Dec 23, 2019, 8:05 AM

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📎 15770883259506682058152465404321.jpg

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 8:05 AM

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Or would it be too much

hushed basalt Dec 23, 2019, 8:05 AM

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Nah too much

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Definitely a mattress directly sort of frame

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 8:06 AM

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Dam cause my dresser and tv is super high lol

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Wat about that one u just sent

hushed basalt Dec 23, 2019, 8:07 AM

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📎 1577088453629492665555059375939.jpg

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Seems like they add slats later

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To be honest it seems quite an expensive frame in terms of materials

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The floating style will cost you a fair bit more because it has to be over engineered

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 8:09 AM

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The 4 legs i dont mind i just want something to add lights underneath

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But i need to find one that can do boxspring and mattress on top

hushed basalt Dec 23, 2019, 8:13 AM

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Don't boxsprings go directly on the ground. With just simple legs/castors

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 8:14 AM

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Idk mine is on top of a cheap metal frame then mattress on top of boxspring

hushed basalt Dec 23, 2019, 8:15 AM

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📎 1577088885744957865150971079509.jpg

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Like that?

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You probably could afford to have the floating style with lighter construction

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Because the bottom part that is on the ground can be a lot further out

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 8:16 AM

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Yea pretty much i just want a wood kind of frame

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Cause the metal frame looks ghetto

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📎 image0.jpg

hushed basalt Dec 23, 2019, 8:16 AM

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https://www.instructables.com/id/Floating-Bed/

Instructables

"Floating Bed": Growing tired of my boxspring on the floor I decided I wanted to create a bed frame that made it look like the bed was floating above the floor. I left room for a headboard/lamp idea that I'll be completing in the next couple of weeks.

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 8:16 AM

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I mean i could just do it with this frame and put led strips underneath but idk

hushed basalt Dec 23, 2019, 8:17 AM

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The upholstery is badly done but this is basically what you want

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 8:17 AM

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Yea that shit thick af tho lol

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But it would be fine in black

hushed basalt Dec 23, 2019, 8:19 AM

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Or raw OSB if that's your style

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 8:19 AM

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Yea thats pretty much what i want

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And my comforter will be hanging down over it a bit

hushed basalt Dec 23, 2019, 8:20 AM

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If you want a headboard you can just find any generic headboard design

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Or even buy one second hand

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 8:20 AM

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So is there frames similar to that premade

hushed basalt Dec 23, 2019, 8:20 AM

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Probably not

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Maybe etsy

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Anyway you've got enough to go off. May the force of Google be with you ;)

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 8:21 AM

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So thats just floating bed just a better frame than the first one i showed?

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Ok i see i just opened the link, i wonder how much it cost lol

hushed basalt Dec 23, 2019, 8:33 AM

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I think if you sign up and download the pdf

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They might have details in there

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It depends on how much lumber costs where you live

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 8:34 AM

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Ok imma check it out, the side walls just look so big but i guess u need it if u have a box spring

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 9:01 AM

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https://www.instructables.com/id/GroundFX-Bed/ i guess this one work better since its skinnier

Instructables

GroundFX Bed

GroundFX Bed: Throw away your clumsy old steel frame bed. You deserve a bed that looks like it’s floating! And glows! And is impossible to stub your toe on! And most importantly - that you built with your own hands. You may have seen something like this online ...

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i just wonder how he uses it with boxspring and a mattress without it falling over lol

hushed basalt Dec 23, 2019, 9:09 AM

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The side walls

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Are just osb or plywood boards

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They're not structural so you don't even need them

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Or you can make them smaller

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 9:15 AM

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ok

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it said 2x10x5 wood lol does that even exist

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maybe he cut it to size?

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i tried to click on the first bed u linked me but the pdf file doesnt work on that

pure vine Dec 23, 2019, 12:35 PM

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i need to get a proper multi-meter, kinda tempted to get the 121GW Multimeter from eev blog

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 12:38 PM

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I've survived with $10 multimeter for the last 20 years 😛

pure vine Dec 23, 2019, 12:39 PM

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yeah, I just find them annoying, also the 121GW one has bluetooth capablities i kinda want to mess arround with and make a small UI for accessing

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 12:39 PM

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Appears to be snowing in my home town

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https://www.instagram.com/p/B6YqMeFHPvy/?igshid=180hvfkdzouhd

Instagram

Tromsø, Norway 🌍 on Instagram: “Main Street of Tromsø, Norw...

6,526 Likes, 202 Comments - Tromsø, Norway 🌍 (@tromsolove) on Instagram: “Main Street of Tromsø, Norway. 📍🇳🇴
#tromsolove”

▶ Play video

pure vine Dec 23, 2019, 12:39 PM

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🌨️

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loadNope

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thats a lot of snow

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 12:40 PM

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That is a normal amount

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You should see a lot

pure vine Dec 23, 2019, 12:42 PM

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This is the snow we normally have... When it snows

📎 20190201114612226__01.jpg

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 12:42 PM

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That is what we call slaps in Norwegian

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Or similar to porridge

light trout Dec 23, 2019, 12:43 PM

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BBQ weather

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 12:43 PM

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😂

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I have a former colleague who BBQs all year

pure vine Dec 23, 2019, 12:45 PM

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Our winter is being annoyingly warm at the moment

📎 unknown.png

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goes to look at last years temps

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Yeah, last years winters lows never really got about 5C, but this year we are surpassing that, its currently at 6c

ocean mirage Dec 23, 2019, 12:48 PM

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Surely that’s comfortable for you?

pure vine Dec 23, 2019, 12:49 PM

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i like the cold tho

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it means i can wear big coats, but in this weather i can be OK going outside in a t-shirt and jeans, my fall clothing

ocean mirage Dec 23, 2019, 12:50 PM

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I’m in warm clothes at 10C lol

pure vine Dec 23, 2019, 12:54 PM

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I just noticed something intresting

📎 Year_diffrences.png

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My data only goes back to 2016, but it does normally palatue at 5c

📎 2016.png

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the climbing this year is odd though

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 12:59 PM

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Was easy to spot me in Barcelona in December 2016

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I was wearing shorts

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While the locals were wearing Canada goose and hats and scarfs

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It was 19c after all

pure vine Dec 23, 2019, 1:12 PM

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loadWat

📎 unknown.png

light trout Dec 23, 2019, 1:13 PM

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Get your kites ready

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 2:08 PM

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Ws2811 ready for next year sad

📎 JPEG_20191223_150832.jpg

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 2:16 PM

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12v?

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 2:28 PM

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5v

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 2:36 PM

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weak

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Indeed, but I already have 5v PSUs and the lengths will not be extreme

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 2:45 PM

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heh i just bought a pack of battery operated motion sensor lights and put one under the bed... works great... $3 and done

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Anyone using wled segments ?

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 2:57 PM

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dale was playing with them the other day

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I don't know if he's actually using them though

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 2:57 PM

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They are super cool but some edits wipe the segments, wondering if it's me or a bug.

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📎 20191221_163106_2_1.gif

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 2:59 PM

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I'm waiting on an enclosure and some buck converters

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then I'll have the stuff to finish my project

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if it wasn't going outside, I'd just print something

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Hammond boxes is what I use for all outside ones

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Got all shapes and sizes

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:03 PM

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I'm just using a 2-gang outdoor box with some cable glands

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I got a 2A 12V switchmode supply that'll fit in half a single gang box

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Nice.

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:05 PM

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should be more than enough juice to drive my 16 segments

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:06 PM

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I am going to convert all mine to 24v, found a source in China.

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:06 PM

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for strips?

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:06 PM

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Strings and pucks

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:06 PM

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still 5V control?

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:06 PM

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Yes

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Want to convert landscape lighting to pixels so looking for less daily drain

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:07 PM

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neat

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I don't have any landscaping lighting yet

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trying to get my grass right first 🙂

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:08 PM

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Well that's a task as always. Keeping the same color. Lol

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Little disappointed with rainmachine on my 2nd unit now.

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:09 PM

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got into reel mowing last year

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totally different world

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I haven't had any issues with my opensprinklerpi

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what have you had go wrong with your rainmachine?

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:12 PM

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1st was a boot loop but customer service was super up front replacement but couldn't restore the backup. 2nd is the adaptive skip, soil water retention algorithm is not great. So manually setting retention numbers.

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:12 PM

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I've got none of that fancy stuff

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:16 PM

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🙂 You can mix weather forecasting services in rainmachine but I need https://cimis.water.ca.gov/ to take precedence, since that weather station is pretty close to me. Still waiting for that implementation.

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:18 PM

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I gotta figure out something to replace my dash buttons with

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:18 PM

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I have a so many 😦 Using minimotes now

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:18 PM

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too bad nobody's figured out how to install custom firmware on the new version

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sucks because the form factor of the amazon button is perfect

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:20 PM

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If you find a solution let me know. I think I have about 30 of them

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:22 PM

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some guys figured out a hack but it won't work if they've ever had their firmware updated

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there's a bunch of stuff to be found in the issues on this repo

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https://github.com/Nekmo/amazon-dash

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someone successfully was able to deadend the request to amazon without the button resetting itself

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:23 PM

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I am running that in docker. But don't know what to do with unopened ones.

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:23 PM

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look at this issue

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https://github.com/Nekmo/amazon-dash/issues/145#issuecomment-542532249

light trout Dec 23, 2019, 3:24 PM

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dude... < && > around links please <http....> 😄

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:25 PM

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the channel used to automatically kill the preview

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:26 PM

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Thanks for the tip. So 1700 clicks per button 🙂

light trout Dec 23, 2019, 3:27 PM

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This is the only channel excempted from that rule

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:29 PM

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@last dirge found anything to add buttons that are not already linked?

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:29 PM

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yeah, look at the bottom of that issue in the second link I posted

scenic radish Dec 23, 2019, 3:33 PM

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It smells amazing in my kitchen rn

📎 IMG_20191223_093004.jpg

echo tide Dec 23, 2019, 3:37 PM

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any alternatives to Amazon Dash? I'm looking for similar functionality, but this notice has me a little worried:
WARNING: Your Amazon-dash buttons can be bricked after December 31st. Go to section 5 to read more.

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:37 PM

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did you read more?

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maybe in section 5

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:38 PM

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@last dirge going to try to the audio exploit today. Will keep you posted. Thanks. Simply amazing work buy Hunz

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:38 PM

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I have 3 I use regularly

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they've probably had firmware updated though

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I've got a bunch in a box that I may be able to exploit

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:39 PM

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Me too, still in boxes, this gives much hope.

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:39 PM

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I think the biggest thing is keeping it from contacting the firmware update endpoint so it doesn't update itself

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I use Dasher, not the repo I linked

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:39 PM

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Going to put on a restricted vlan from get go

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:40 PM

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I should probably do that too

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I don't really have a setup that lends itself to that though

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I could throw them on a guest network I guess

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I don't have a restricted AP

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:41 PM

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IOT vlan for all esp, camera, etc

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:44 PM

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I should probably do that

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my cameras are PoE

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I had routing problems with my NVR not being able to contact them when I stuck them on another VLAN

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:44 PM

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I still use same vlan for poe. Restricted

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:44 PM

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and if I stuck the NVR on the VLAN then hass couldn't see the cameras

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:45 PM

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you will have to tweak the rules a bit. My cameras can only hit Synology IP specifically.

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:45 PM

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the cameras don't ever hit the internet so I don't really care 🙂

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do you use syno surveillance station?

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:46 PM

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Yes

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:46 PM

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nice

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can it deal with 4k cameras?

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:47 PM

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I have one dedicated for cameras

scenic radish Dec 23, 2019, 3:47 PM

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My router doesn't support VLANs so I just have certain devices restricted to LAN only

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Figured it's a step in the right direction at least

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:47 PM

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I've got an Edgerouter

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it can do way more than I know how to do 🙂

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:48 PM

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My favorite

scenic radish Dec 23, 2019, 3:48 PM

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Been thinking of getting an edgerouter x

echo tide Dec 23, 2019, 3:48 PM

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well; aside from that notice (I admit, I had some trouble finding section 5 on first perusal), I'd prefer not to have to block network traffic to use a button. So anyway, seems like the best option would be an Ikea Trädfri or Xoaimi Aqara. Only downside is the Zigbee Hub I'd need to buy along with it

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thanks for the help.

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:49 PM

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so you'd rather spend a few hundo than block network traffic from specific devices?

tidal bronze Dec 23, 2019, 3:50 PM

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You can do it pretty easy by groups

📎 unknown.png

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 3:52 PM

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@echo tide zigbee2mqtt, then you have no proprietary gateways to be afraid of

echo tide Dec 23, 2019, 3:54 PM

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cool; just stumbled across it myself, looks like I have a new project to add to the list 🙂

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 3:55 PM

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I frankly don't care what my devices send home, but I should probably restrict them when I have time

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 3:55 PM

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it's necessary in this case because if the button contacts Amazon then Amazon will push firmware to brick it

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kinda shitty that they just didn't stop supporting them and they instead chose to brick them

echo tide Dec 23, 2019, 3:58 PM

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seems like there's a good idea for a kickstarter there... if you can produce it cheaply; the FLIC is way too expensive...

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 3:58 PM

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@last dirge not a problem here since neither Amazon nor dash is a thing 😛

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@echo tide if you are talking about zigbee2mqtt there are already options where they are sold pre flashed and in cases, but that is a discussion for #zigbee-archived

echo tide Dec 23, 2019, 4:05 PM

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actually; talking about just a standalone button that you can configure to connect to your MQTT server over wifi; without the need for any hub...

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 4:06 PM

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mqtt would be the hub at that point

echo tide Dec 23, 2019, 4:07 PM

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that's true 🙂

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 4:07 PM

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Technically the truth 😛

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UkayChamp

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 4:07 PM

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"hub"

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https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-mood-1hMk0bfsSrG32Nhd5K

Giphy

echo tide Dec 23, 2019, 4:08 PM

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😄

languid robin Dec 23, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Guys I've just started purchasing components for my newly smart home:
I've bought 4 Mi Smart RGB Bulbs for 40€ total with some coupon fuckery on the Mi Store
I've purchased three Google Home Minis

Now, all I need is to buy the raspberry pi to run home automation (not a problem) and some sensors.

I originally wanted to purchase this kit https://www.amazon.it/Xiaomi-Telecomando-della-commutatore-Bianco/dp/B07KXN6S74

But I can't figure out if Home Assistant could support the gateway natively or if it needs a zigbee2mqtt dongle.
In that case, I would purchase that and the sensors separately.

Can somebody help me figure this out? Also, could somebody point me to a website with relatively rapid shipping that sells the individual sensors

scenic radish Dec 23, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Well home assistant is off topic here so #330944238910963714 or maybe #zigbee-archived would be a better spot

languid robin Dec 23, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Oh sorry I used this channel a couple of days ago to get purchase advice so I figured I'd post here again

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Thanks, I will post there instead

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 4:56 PM

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I am on a budget and looking for a decent router anyone have any recommendation? I am in the US if that makes a difference.

pure vine Dec 23, 2019, 4:56 PM

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whats the maximum you can spend and what features do you need

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 4:57 PM

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I would say about $150 and honestly I am not sure what features I need

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obviously I would love the ability to setup things like separate vlans and things of that nature

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but it is not necessary

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I have thought about AmpliFi by Ubiquiti https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L9O07FS/ref=twister_B07F7W95VK?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 4:59 PM

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does it need a built in WAP?

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 4:59 PM

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yes

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but I have some holdups with AmpliFi if I buy the system without the mess points it is really hard to find the mesh points separate if I need them and I have heard that as a kit the mesh points are hard bond the the router

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Also when looking at other routers it is hard to tell if it will have the basic management features I would like

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 5:04 PM

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if you need the built in WAP you tend to give up a lot of the enterprisy features

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Yeah I figured. I can live without most enterprise features

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do you know of any router and wap system that would fit my budget?

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 5:08 PM

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not something i've looked in to recently

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i run a split system right now. dedicated router with external wap

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 5:11 PM

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Just out of curiosity what do you use?

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 5:12 PM

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ubnt LR3

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Lol I could've guessed that. I have worked with that in the past and it's great. It's just not worth the money for my current situation

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 5:16 PM

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i haven't really done anything with it yet but its on the list

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still have dumb switches everywhere

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once i start getting managed switches in place i'll start vlaning

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 5:16 PM

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yeah i just started changing to managed switches as well

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at the bare minimum it at least helps my find where things are going wrong

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 5:17 PM

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i have a 24p gigabit cisco sitting on a shelf but i haven't done anything with it because its too damn loud 😄

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 5:17 PM

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and as of late it is all going wrong at my AT&T provided shitbox router

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lol yeah you need to put that in a sound proofed room just to keep your sanity

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 5:18 PM

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oh i bypassed that as soon as they set it up

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Yeah I should've done the same thing but here we are

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 5:18 PM

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set it up for passthrough and never looked back

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 5:19 PM

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On slight thing though apparently the specific router and firmware has issues with passthrough just well not working at all

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so I have a tech coming out and probably replacing the gateway which I will then immediately be connecting my own router

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Hm.... so I just looked into Unifi more and I found I could get an edge router x for $60 and an ap for $80

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Might have to do that

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Anyone else here run a similar setup?

fallow galleon Dec 23, 2019, 5:38 PM

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That's what I have. I'd make sure the AP of choice isn't on the EOL list

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ERX doesn't have the fancy graphics from USG

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 5:43 PM

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@fallow galleon do you know where to find this eol list?

fallow galleon Dec 23, 2019, 5:44 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubiquiti/comments/ed0a2p/announcement_eol_for_some_unifi_ap_models/

new ones should be fine, but just make sure

Announcement: EOL for some UniFi AP models

This has been posted on UniFi forum: I want to reach out and announce that we are starting the EOL lifecycle for the following models of UniFi...

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Oh dang that is new. Thanks for the heads up. What ap do you use? and are you just using the Edgerouter x with 4 out port

fallow galleon Dec 23, 2019, 5:49 PM

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My UAP-PRO is old and on that list. Something I got from work.
I don't use the integrated switch. I have another 16 port switch.

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 5:50 PM

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out of curiosity what switch do you use?

fallow galleon Dec 23, 2019, 5:53 PM

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😅 not something I'm proud of. A Zyxel, but that's all I could found for relatively cheap at that time

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 5:53 PM

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ZyXEL🤢

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 5:54 PM

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never heard of the why are they 🤢

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 5:54 PM

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They have been around for 25 years or more

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They used to make really shitty products

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I haven't touched them in 10 years probably

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1989 actually, older than I though

fallow galleon Dec 23, 2019, 5:56 PM

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need VLAN so a managed switch. iirc that's all I can find <$100

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 5:57 PM

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yeah from what i found for 16 ports that is probably all you can find

fallow galleon Dec 23, 2019, 5:57 PM

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ebay now has a LOT of options. Managed, gigabit

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I guess people are moving to 10G

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 5:58 PM

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I'm probably outside the norm as I run a pair of HPE 5900AF in my core and a few Aruba 2530 as distribution 😛

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Yeah that's not really a consumer setup lol barely even a prosumer setup

fallow galleon Dec 23, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Having more than 1 layer, yea lol

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 6:01 PM

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I think the 5900 retail for $40000 each ThonkEyes

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Or did atleast

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No, that was actually a bundle price for two I think

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 6:02 PM

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I mean I tried looking at the website and it just says Get Quote so yeah the price is probably up there

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May I ask a question @clear ferry

fallow galleon Dec 23, 2019, 6:03 PM

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work only gave me UAP-PRO and patch panel.....😅

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 6:03 PM

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The Aruba's are only $600 each though

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Why do you have such an enterprise setup in your home?

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Because I work with stuff like this

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So I lab at home

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I have a RX6600 also, that was probably close to $100000 new

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 6:05 PM

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ah makes sense. I was really disappointed. My work moved offices and I got some old equipment like a half decent netgear NAS but sadly no networking equipment we pretty much used it all at the new place or the old stuff just didn't work anymore

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 6:07 PM

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And when Im mostly the only one in country, or region who works with the products it's good to be able to lab at home

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 6:07 PM

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very true now you have me interested who do you work for?

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if you don't want to say I understand

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 6:08 PM

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You should be able to tell by the products 😛

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 6:08 PM

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HP?

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Well, you are almost right

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 6:11 PM

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well HPE or whatever their enterprise business is

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Yes, don't call me a pc and printer pleb 😛

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 6:12 PM

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lol I mean with your network setup I don't think anyone would

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Makes a lot more sense on why you have an overkill setup for most homes

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You probably have a better setup than most small to medium sized businesses

unreal orbit Dec 23, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Most small to medium businesses have no real networking whatsoever

light trout Dec 23, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Real networking?
The have a LAN they can communicate over, and cacn access the internet, what more do you need?

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 6:16 PM

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I have more physical servers than many customers I visit 😂

unreal orbit Dec 23, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Like a central data server, properly established DHCP, likely piss-poor wifi security

light trout Dec 23, 2019, 6:17 PM

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WEP all the way 🎉

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 6:21 PM

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No WEP is even too hard lets just make it no password

light trout Dec 23, 2019, 6:22 PM

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At this point WEP and no password are mostly the same

clever mortar Dec 23, 2019, 6:23 PM

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They've been mostly the same for longer than I care to remember

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I mean, hell, WPA hasn't been much better than WEP for long enough

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 6:23 PM

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I mean the other difference is 5 seconds

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for both entering a password and how much longer it takes to get through

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Not going to lie I haven't seen many WEP networks around me lately

clever mortar Dec 23, 2019, 6:24 PM

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So, you can save 5 seconds of typing a password by spending the 5 seconds to break it 🤔

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I've seen WEP, it's not terribly common, but it's out there

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WPA is still pretty common too

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Yeah I see that all over

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as much as I crap on AT&T and other isp's in the US one good thing they have done is basically made WPA2 required on their routers

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or at the very least the default and people don't even bother to change it

clever mortar Dec 23, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Much the same here - and the default passwords are no longer password or the MAC address of the access point

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 6:30 PM

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yeah mine not only had a rando password, it has a config access password as well (also rando)

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 6:30 PM

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yeah that was probably the best thing they could've done. Also they lock their routers down more with a separate "access code" that is needed to change major settings that would open security holes

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 6:31 PM

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^ yeah that

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but... the ATT NAT routing blowwwws.. and port forwarding basically causes you to basically DOS yourself

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so i had to passthrough to my own router

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 6:32 PM

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No joke I think I just did that to myself the other day! Still not sure but I have had so many issues the past couple days

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the best part is AT&T says it is the "wiring"

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 6:33 PM

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i hate ISPs with a passion

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 6:33 PM

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And I am just like nope it's your crappy router/modem

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And same, especially since I basically have 2 choices for the same exact service

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only difference one is slightly faster the other actually has customer service

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 6:34 PM

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yeah, you can see in the NAT table all forwarded routes end up sitting on ... i wanna say an SYN_ACK? Which is what you want when you are trying to DOS someone

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also, i had to use CTF to get CLOSE to gigabit speeds, which breaks NAT loopback "per spec"

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 6:36 PM

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I don't follow what did you do to get close to gigabit speeds?

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 6:37 PM

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so, on my router, i flashed with Tomato

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it has the CTF feature built in

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which is like a hacky NAT transfer that's significantly faster by ignoring some features/functionality and other optimizations

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https://www.snbforums.com/threads/broadcoms-hardware-acceleration.18144/

SmallNetBuilder Forums

Broadcom's hardware acceleration

Since this is a frequently discussed topic, I thought I'd put what I know about this in a new thread.

CTF is Broadcom's closed-source, proprietary...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cut-through_switching

Cut-through switching

In computer networking, cut-through switching, also called cut-through forwarding is a method for packet switching systems, wherein the switch starts forwarding a frame (or packet) before the whole frame has been received, normally as soon as the destination address is proces...

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 6:39 PM

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ah that makes sense, so basically its cheatcode

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 6:39 PM

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hehe yeah

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so far the only negative side effect is you can't access your own network via port forwards, you have to access directly

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so if i have codex.com:4567 forwarded to .15:8888, i have to access .15:8888 directly, but the outside world can use the previous

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 6:41 PM

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oh ok makes sense

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what router do you use with tomato heard a bit about it but never looked into it much

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would you recommend for someone that doesn't mind configuring it but then just wants to leave it alone?

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 6:42 PM

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I use the Netgear AC1900

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 6:46 PM

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What are your thoughts on Tomato?

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 6:53 PM

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i like it, it's basically just ARM linux preconfigured with a bunch of networking tools

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Yeah the more I look into it the more I like

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 6:56 PM

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i like how any device it works on, it's consistent

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Yeah it also look a lot more straight forward to use especially compared to AT&T's shitty firmware

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 7:15 PM

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my literal favorite feature is renaming devices, and 2nd favorite is realtime bandwidth monitoring (although i don't use that one much anymore on gigabit)

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 7:16 PM

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lol I understand that I hate plugging something in like a pi and having to guess what the ip is from the list of devices that are say unknown

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 7:19 PM

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I got close to gigabit by putting the ATT router in passthrough

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 7:21 PM

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i couldn't top 350mbit without CTF

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 7:21 PM

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@last dirge @steel urchin what are your speeds ATT says you should be getting on your bill? I am interested because the highest tier they offer me is 50mbps

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 7:21 PM

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gigabit up/down

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 7:21 PM

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oh

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I'm gigabit 🙂

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FTTH

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 7:21 PM

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i get on average 970-980

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 7:22 PM

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I forgot some stuff I turned off or disabled on my edgerouter

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 7:22 PM

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lol yeah i'm just sol I guess they do offer me one other tier! 5mbps for $20 more

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 7:22 PM

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had to fix it

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I only pay like $80/month for gigabit

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 7:24 PM

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yeah i'm on 70+10/mo for 12mo,t hen i think it goes back up to 100 which is their nationwide pricing

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 7:25 PM

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I think I've got traffic monitoring on on my edgerouter

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no, that's off

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ATT re-flashed my modem a while back and screwed with some of my settings

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it's been kinda goofy since then

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 7:27 PM

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yeah i was doign a lot of research and apparently ATT routers are generally garbage

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for the record, CTF/gigabit speeds are only for NAT transfers... no-nat (same subnet) will get gigabit speeds just fine

dark swallow Dec 23, 2019, 7:31 PM

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lol wow yeah i pay like $80 too but again for only 50megs

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 7:33 PM

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loving this lil optiplex

📎 unknown.png

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those spikes are me installing 4 VMs at once 🙂

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 8:44 PM

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ok.. finally got around to installing my first smart swtich.. GE ZWave, but it flickers at highest setting... is this a bulb issue?

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 8:45 PM

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typically

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 8:46 PM

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how annoying

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any input on what i need to look for? It's just 2 lights in this situation, but I know the rest of the lights are the exact same and i have 7 switches to install

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they're incandescing bulbs... not led

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i thought they were all dimmable

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 8:50 PM

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hm, i'm not sure then

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is it a 60hz flicker?

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i haven't tried incandescent bulbs on mine. only LED

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actually, that's not true. Had 2 can lights, they worked fine though

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 8:54 PM

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ok i lied, it's actually LED, they just look so damn much like incandescent

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 8:55 PM

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lol

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flickering on a halogen would be super weird

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 8:55 PM

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https://www.energystar.gov/productfinder/product/certified-light-bulbs/details/2317739

Product Finder — Light Bulbs

Find and compare ENERGY STAR Certified Light Bulbs. Learn all the information you need to start shopping, including product details, rebates, and retailers near you.

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says dimmable

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 8:56 PM

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not all bulbs are created equally

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 8:56 PM

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well so far both are doing it :S really annoying

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 8:56 PM

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led bulbs are defintely one of those "you get what you pay for" items

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 8:56 PM

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and only at 100%

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it goes all the way to 0 just fine

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 8:57 PM

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odd

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set a max of 99% then? 😛

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 8:59 PM

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modern problems require modern solutions 🤔

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 8:59 PM

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yeah just not sure how to set the max yet

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i can't find a clear answer

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also, the damn thing isn't showing up in alexa through the alarm.com integration, but i remove/re-add the outlet switch we have and it gets it just fine

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 9:00 PM

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i handle it buy using double-tap events

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 9:01 PM

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yeah i know nothing about that yet

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i'm literally just diving into this... been trying to read up on what i can, but not quite there yet

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 9:01 PM

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#zwave-archived for more, but those ge dimmers support doubletap events

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 9:02 PM

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yeah i'll jump on that in a bit.. right now i'm irritated alarm.com and my iq panel both see the new switch and control it fine, but alexa does not

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ok this is so stupid

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in the app i've told it to scan for new devices like 6 times now

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i just said "Alexa, scan for new devices" and within seconds it found it

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 9:08 PM

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lol

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Amazon'd

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 9:10 PM

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yeah just trying to transition the wifey slowly.... rght now she loves the alexa stuff, but i know as i switch over to HA i'm going to have to refigure that out

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i'm sure it's similar, with a skill

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hmm... now i'm noticing one light turns on before the other

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if i slowly fade it, one will be on, the other won't

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 9:22 PM

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aww yiss

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https://photos.app.goo.gl/Aj7FzAmrefni7XEB8

Google Photos

New photo by Brian Cribbs

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now I just need it to stop raining for a while so I can install stuff

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no comments on my crappy li'l enclosure?

dull chasm Dec 23, 2019, 9:34 PM

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you should have proper backplanes

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with standouts that are theaded

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no ground screw for isolation

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no vents

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 9:36 PM

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won't have vents, it's a sealed enclosure

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housing is plastic, ground terminal wouldn't do anything

dull chasm Dec 23, 2019, 9:37 PM

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allows for term's

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 9:37 PM

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I have to figure out something for mounting

dull chasm Dec 23, 2019, 9:37 PM

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wont pass code

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need a union man to make it safe 🤣

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 9:37 PM

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doesn't have to 😉

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it's got a plug on the other end

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companies are REALLY proud of their waterproof enclosures that are that size

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a 2-gang sized box is like $30

dull chasm Dec 23, 2019, 9:38 PM

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yep

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 9:39 PM

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that one was like $12

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and it's a name brand

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wooo

dull chasm Dec 23, 2019, 9:40 PM

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well if you got a propoer encloser from hoffman it would have a backplane and grounding and be waterproof nema6 ...put hunderds not 10's 🤣

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 9:45 PM

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well.. i'm irritated.... guess i'm going to start drinking

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this damn flickering is so weird... only happens from the switch, alarm.com/alexa don't exhibit any flickering

dull chasm Dec 23, 2019, 9:47 PM

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drink more and you ill never notice

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 9:48 PM

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i'm new to this whole home automation thing... smart switches are expensive 👀

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 9:48 PM

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yes, they are

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another annoying thing is i tell alexa to turn on dining room lights, and the roborock turns on... it's not listed as a light, it's listed as "other" yet still does it

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i hate technology

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(says the guy who works in it)

dull chasm Dec 23, 2019, 9:49 PM

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you might need to step back a little and regroup ....

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 9:49 PM

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i think you're right

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 9:50 PM

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did you guys go one-by-one on smart light switches? or just drop a lot on em? i guess i don't need all the light switches in my house to be smart

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 9:50 PM

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you mean regroup my thoughts, or regroup areas in alexa app? 🤣

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for better or worse, i bought a ton at once because they were on mad sale a few weeks ago

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i got 15 total

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 9:50 PM

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what kind?

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 9:50 PM

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GE Enbrighten, z-wave

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but i just installed my first one like 20 min ago and have annoying flickering, so don't quite listen to me 🤔

dull chasm Dec 23, 2019, 9:51 PM

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i dont use alexa groups ....i would make sure things work indviual then start down th group path ....as far as teh light flicking ....start with manually turning on switch ....if that a problem ...then bulb/switch

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 9:51 PM

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i'm thinking it's the bulb

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it's all acting strange though

dull chasm Dec 23, 2019, 9:52 PM

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led bulbs come in dimmable and non dimable

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 9:52 PM

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if i turn on via switch, it flickers, and one light turns on before the other.... via zwave it's simultaneous without flicker

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 9:52 PM

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https://www.build.com/fibaro-fgms-001/s1141429?uid=2733276 is this the eye of sauron?

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 9:52 PM

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yeah this one is dimmable

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https://www.energystar.gov/productfinder/product/certified-light-bulbs/details/2317739

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is what i have

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lol i saw those @midnight adder and noped out

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 9:53 PM

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that's a trip

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 9:54 PM

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@wild lark but the bulb i have isn't on the QVL that Jasco has out... although that's not the end-all be-all, it may be the issue 🤷‍♂️

dull chasm Dec 23, 2019, 9:54 PM

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i dont use zwave but i would imagine its just tuning on the switch via protrocal ....so should be same manual vs smart

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 9:54 PM

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that's how i feel about it as well, but it's definitely a different experience

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 9:59 PM

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I'd strongly recommend getting RF stuff

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Z-wave, zigbee

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and I'd also strongly recommend using stuff that reverts to "dumb" if your controller goes offline

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ie: the switch on the wall still controls the lights

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 10:03 PM

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yeah that's why i went zwave

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same for internet

wild lark Dec 23, 2019, 10:03 PM

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@steel urchin I think you mentioned the wrong guy 😂

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 10:03 PM

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VasileyToday at 3:52 PM
led bulbs come in dimmable and non dimable

valid halo Dec 23, 2019, 10:03 PM

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I got new glasses today

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😄

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 10:03 PM

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aww yisss

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 10:03 PM

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ohhhhh

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 10:03 PM

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single vision?

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 10:04 PM

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i see it now lol

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 10:09 PM

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is there an alternative to a ring video doorbell?

unreal orbit Dec 23, 2019, 10:10 PM

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yes

wet pilot Dec 23, 2019, 10:10 PM

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many

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including but not limited to DIY

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 10:11 PM

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where's the best place to look for these? it's hard, knowing almost nothing about these products, to jump in and find good ones. looking at the home assistant integrations page is also a little overwhelming 🙂

clever mortar Dec 23, 2019, 10:12 PM

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#cameras-archived ?

valid halo Dec 23, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Yes single vision

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I only have one working eye

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how did you guess?

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O_O

clever mortar Dec 23, 2019, 10:12 PM

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🤔 Folks, we've found the surviving Cyclops...

valid halo Dec 23, 2019, 10:13 PM

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X_O Nemo really did a number on me.

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 10:19 PM

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@midnight adder mind if I dm?

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 10:20 PM

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sure

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 10:20 PM

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gettin old sucks

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I'd recommend against it if possible

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 10:20 PM

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big facts

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agreed

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 10:21 PM

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was soldering something earlier

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 10:21 PM

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👴

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 10:21 PM

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looked up at something two feet away

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my eyes were like "hold on, gimme a second"

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probably got 2 or so years before I'll need bifocals

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booooo

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 10:21 PM

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I haven't had depth perception since I was born

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You get used to it

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 10:21 PM

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i thought for a very long time that i had perfect eyesight, and it turns out that i do not in fact have perfect eyesight

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 10:22 PM

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according to my audiologist I have perfect hearing

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I also have ringing in my ears

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also, she was fitting me for special hearing aids when she told me that

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so grain of salt, I guess

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they play white noise in my head constantly 🙂

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 10:23 PM

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i don't have great hearing - my music was always at full volume

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years of bands and concerts took its toll

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 10:23 PM

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it's supposed to lessen my brain's recognition of my ringing after a while

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and hopefully I'll be able to stop wearing them in 18-24 months

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 10:24 PM

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I have perfect hearing, and I've always listened to metal and prog rock at 11, no idea why I don't have tinnitus😂

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 10:24 PM

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neuroplasticity FTW

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 10:25 PM

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My wife sent me to an ear doctor because she said I never could hear her

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Turns out I just had selective hearing

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I hear like a 25 year old, and im 35 😂

clever mortar Dec 23, 2019, 10:26 PM

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That's called marriage 😛

last dirge Dec 23, 2019, 10:26 PM

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these hearing aids are also bluetooth headphones

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pretty friggin sweet little devices 🙂

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 10:26 PM

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We have been together for 20 years, guess I just filter out white noise 😂

hushed basalt Dec 23, 2019, 10:28 PM

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????

📎 15771400705919212584285470026396.jpg

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Is this a problem any of you ever had

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Your cat stealing sausages from your refrigerator

midnight adder Dec 23, 2019, 10:29 PM

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do you not?

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is there anyone in the world that just puts food onto fridge shelves in the open?

hushed basalt Dec 23, 2019, 10:31 PM

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😭

📎 15771402737023329943850270732316.jpg

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 10:36 PM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/ced21f27428ddc4fa208bb04a538b74f/tenor.gif

scenic radish Dec 23, 2019, 10:50 PM

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Continue Poppy!

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@hushed basalt watched that Python vid you mentioned. Definitely was useful, I was able to follow along and do some things before he showed how to do them

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I watched it at 1.5x speed to cut it down from 4.5 hours to 3 hours
big brain

clear ferry Dec 23, 2019, 11:01 PM

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💆‍♀️

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 11:05 PM

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Sometimes I'll have 2-3 watching at 2x and wifey is like "how the hell do you do that?" And I tell her "there's a lot of dumb useless shit in-between the informative parts

scenic radish Dec 23, 2019, 11:06 PM

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I kept forgetting I was playing it at a higher speed and thought "how is he typing so fast, damn" a few times

hushed basalt Dec 23, 2019, 11:10 PM

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It depends on the content too

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Sometimes you don't absorb it and then have to watch it again too

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1.5x / 2 = 0.75x overall :D

scenic radish Dec 23, 2019, 11:12 PM

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Very true

steel urchin Dec 23, 2019, 11:58 PM

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never had that problem 😛

valid halo Dec 24, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Someone up above said getting old sucks

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too true mate

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I gew old

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and now I have FUCKING glaucoma

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take meds 9 times a day

last dirge Dec 24, 2019, 12:07 AM

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@tidal bronze did you do an ambilight thing with those strips on the sides of your TV or are they just to backlight it?

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@valid halo toke up

valid halo Dec 24, 2019, 12:08 AM

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MJ helping Glaucoma is a urban legend from the research I've seen

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uses 100$ eyedrops instead

tidal bronze Dec 24, 2019, 12:09 AM

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@last dirge single strip running wled with 4 segments. 2 x vertical FIRE and top red breath and bottom yellow breath

last dirge Dec 24, 2019, 12:09 AM

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okay, so not related to what's displayed on the monitor

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what controller are you using?

tidal bronze Dec 24, 2019, 12:11 AM

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nodemcu and no, not ambilight. HDMI pass thru is too much brew-ha-ha

last dirge Dec 24, 2019, 12:11 AM

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thinking I might design a shield for the wemos to do WLED

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have some made up

steel urchin Dec 24, 2019, 12:24 AM

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so apparently a lot of Great Value bulbs are "compatible" with the GE switches, and the wifey was at walmart getting some cleaning supplies and grabbed a pack... we'll see how it goes

last dirge Dec 24, 2019, 12:31 AM

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what?

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it's a switch

steel urchin Dec 24, 2019, 12:34 AM

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getting old does suck huh? 😉

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jk i'm old, too

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but... no GV (walmart) bulbs have a lot of compatible models with the GE Enbrighten switches

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https://ezzwave.com/support/led-cfl-bulb-list

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i was just referencing the flickering some ofus were talking about earlier

last dirge Dec 24, 2019, 12:38 AM

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the only flickering I ran into was on a leviton dimmer

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none of my GE/Jasco stuff has had any problems regardless of how many devices on the circuit

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or how shitty the bulb quality is 🙂

steel urchin Dec 24, 2019, 12:47 AM

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hmm well i tried 3 different GE switches and they all did it, so i'm ruling the switch out

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there's literally only 2 bulbs on the load line, it doesn't go off to anything else

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meh, either way... $5 and a few hours i'll have it in hand to test

last dirge Dec 24, 2019, 1:16 AM

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switches or dimmers?

steel urchin Dec 24, 2019, 1:25 AM

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dimmers

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sorry i said switches, my brain hasn't made the distinguishment because I think "who would just want a switch when you can dim?

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i'm losing my damn mind right now... i can access a VM on a specific port via http, but not via RCON (ark) via localhost... but i can access that same port remotely just fine 🤔

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firewall and antivirus disabled, fresh install otherwise... totally stumped heh

hushed basalt Dec 24, 2019, 3:00 AM

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Draw a map

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@steel urchin

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Rubber duck your set up

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9/10 times you'll figure out your mistake there

steel urchin Dec 24, 2019, 3:01 AM

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i mean, it's a modem/router pos that ATT gives me, MY router, and my laptop

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not much of a map

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i think it's this double NAT'ing that this shitty modem enforces on me

hushed basalt Dec 24, 2019, 3:02 AM

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There's still plenty to draw

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Draw your interfaces, the subnets, the external and externally ports and make sure they line up

steel urchin Dec 24, 2019, 3:02 AM

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i'm just trying to access localhost at this point... port is accessible through every service i try except ARK's RCON

hushed basalt Dec 24, 2019, 3:02 AM

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Your ISP modem should be bridged though

steel urchin Dec 24, 2019, 3:02 AM

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doesn't have a bridge

hushed basalt Dec 24, 2019, 3:03 AM

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What's the model

steel urchin Dec 24, 2019, 3:03 AM

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bgw210-700

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you know.. i've written network protocols that the world literally runs on, but i can't figure this stupid router out

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i've it set up as an IP passthrough

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which is garbage

hushed basalt Dec 24, 2019, 3:04 AM

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Ew

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Can you buy another VDSL modem/router

steel urchin Dec 24, 2019, 3:04 AM

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nope

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ATT fiber doesn't allow it

hushed basalt Dec 24, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Can you buy another city

steel urchin Dec 24, 2019, 3:05 AM

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i wish

hushed basalt Dec 24, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Can you buy ATT and make them change it

steel urchin Dec 24, 2019, 3:16 AM

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for the record, wifey just got home with the Great Value bulbs, and they work fantastic

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only issue is we have 3k temp in the entire house, and these are 2700

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this network issue i feel is something to do with win10 store apps

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but it's driving me bonkers

hidden laurel Dec 24, 2019, 3:36 AM

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Any recommendations for smart plugs?

steel urchin Dec 24, 2019, 3:46 AM

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i have a single one i got free with a tech package for the house... it's zwave, which i like, but i think in the future i'd rather change the outlet itself for a smart outlet rather than a plug... it's kinda tacky looking imo

hidden laurel Dec 24, 2019, 3:47 AM

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It's not visible but I agree

steel urchin Dec 24, 2019, 3:48 AM

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do you have existing tech? i'm trying to stick 100% zwave

hidden laurel Dec 24, 2019, 3:48 AM

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I'm 100% wifi

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I have to get some mqtt stuff at some point but for now wifi

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I have a few ubiquiti WAPs so my coverage is bomb af and it works really reliably

young sigil Dec 24, 2019, 4:22 AM

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I've run out of things to automate 😱

hidden laurel Dec 24, 2019, 4:22 AM

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you clearly haven't tried

young sigil Dec 24, 2019, 4:31 AM

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Name something. Anything.

wet pilot Dec 24, 2019, 4:32 AM

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@wet pilot

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

midnight adder Dec 24, 2019, 4:40 AM

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Have your heat turn up when the stock market is doing well, have your curtains go down if someone walks by our house, reset the thermostats after a minute if someone manually changes them, make a doorsalseman detector based on your and your neighbours rf doorbells

hexed magnet Dec 24, 2019, 4:57 AM

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@hidden laurel What WAPs do you use?

young sigil Dec 24, 2019, 5:06 AM

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Sensible ideas then.

steel urchin Dec 24, 2019, 5:23 AM

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C:\Windows\system32>netstat -anobq|find "4200"                                                                            TCP    0.0.0.0:42000          0.0.0.0:0              LISTENING       6316

Driving me crazy... WHY WON'T YOU ANSWER!?

wet pilot Dec 24, 2019, 5:28 AM

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UDP?

steel urchin Dec 24, 2019, 5:33 AM

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no, it's tcp