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clear mirage
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I wish i could make the it so the gable end of the addiions roof was rotated 90 degeress, but i think cause issues with the main roof line

steel urchin
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love me some sketchup

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helps lay things out and get an idea for space

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undermounted adjustable t-track shelf

scenic radish
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looks like an xbox

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good man

steel urchin
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heh well that's what will be on there at first

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and on the other side of the desk another one for my 24port switch, xlr mixer, and if i can squeeze it in the optiplex 9020 sff

strange vapor
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I really need to measure up the place properly.

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If only to get a shiny graphic thingy in HA 😄

clear mirage
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yea at some point i would like to get this into HA use the HA Floor Plan

wet pilot
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a lot of boxes in that layout

steel urchin
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rooms, cabinets, and psuedo furniture 😛

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i have pictures of the framing and electrical and might build an alt version showing the paths of everything

brisk glen
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IoT and NoT vlans

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😄

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securing all things

strange vapor
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If you want them totally secure, just plug them out 😉

scenic radish
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because of forbidden topic about half of the clients on my network are restricted to LAN only lol

fallow galleon
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Just Quad NAT for max security. rollsafe

brave panther
last dirge
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hey @tidal bronze you got any blogs or whatnot about your DC system?

tidal bronze
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you mean whole house 24v?

scenic radish
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quad NAT, goodness lol

clear ferry
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Whole House 24v ThinkEyes

last dirge
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yeah

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I just told @peak cloud about it and he had to go take a cold shower

brisk glen
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who the hell would quad nat?

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what sick person are you

brave panther
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I've got some oddities in the attic wherein there's ~65V between line and ground and ~55V between neutral and ground. Tying both line and neutral together and checking voltage in reference to ground I get 120V. So there's something odd for sure. Unfortunately the attic is of course two stories above the circuit breaker, so outside of breaking into the walls all the way between the two there's no good way to see what's up. Outside of that, the rest of the house is solid and even has a neutral line at all receptacles and switches

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Speaking of natting and the such... personally I've got about 11 VLANs for all my devices. That's always fun to manage. pfSense is amazing.

scenic radish
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tying both line and neutral together 😱

brave panther
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yeah they're actually in phase with each other so i'm not sure what the heck is the deal.

scenic radish
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no like... that creates a short circuit lol

brave panther
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if they were out of phase, that'd be different and i'd not have done that

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to be honest i'm wondering if there already is.

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like, why else would there be voltage on my neutral line

scenic radish
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you sure they're actually line and neutral?

brave panther
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it should be 0V reference to ground

scenic radish
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that would should trip your breaker immediately

brave panther
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well there's the copper, and black and white.

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i'm pretty sure.

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i could trace it out.

scenic radish
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and/or destroy something lol

fallow galleon
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That's ghost voltage

brave panther
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haha yeah. to be fair i'm somewhat comfortable with electricity - installing circuits and chopping live wire to add receptacles. i'm super cautious. but yeah idk about that.

scenic radish
brave panther
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@fallow galleon I wondered the same thing, but the fact that it didn't pop the breaker piqued my curiosity...

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and lol @ that post

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same reason you don't do that in a DC circuit 🙂

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at least some resistance

fallow galleon
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Your ground is probably open?

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I had that before

brave panther
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heck my 12V sealed lead acid battery can spot weld my screwdriver..

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that's possible.

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attic has ... less than great wiring. i'm working on replacing a lot.

scenic radish
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this is my favorite part of that entire thread i linked above:

Every unused outlet in the house is an "incomplete circuit". Presumably you don't install jumper wires across each outlet every time you unplug something, right?

brave panther
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i noticed it when installing a transformer for a doorbell, did my due diligence and checked if the wire was hot and it read ~65V reference to ground. but idk.

tidal bronze
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@last dirge you mean a shower @peak cloud 🙂

brave panther
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the circuit basically goes from breaker, through the walls, to a light (that was on at the time), and to a fan in the attic (that was off) and then back to the circuit breaker. I tapped off of the midpoint between the light and fan and added the transformer and a junction box and a plug but i tested that before making any changes. anywho, i'm leaving it as is for now but something i'll keep in the back of my head.

last dirge
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he got a bit excited

tidal bronze
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ran it along with cat5 best thing ever did

brave panther
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It's a shame they didn't think of CAT5 back in the 50s when my house was built 😄

tidal bronze
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You can always run cat5

peak cloud
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@brave panther Not sure if it's been mentioned, but wanted to go ahead and give my 2 cents on a possible way to find the problem. Can you shut all breakers off and test the circuits of each zone one at a time?

brave panther
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Thanks dale, I may do that one day but for now I am not going to goof with it

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It's probably just ghost voltage or open ground.

peak cloud
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Like you, I am comfortable with electrical, but I am no pro. I know just enough to wire up stuff the right way. 😂

fallow galleon
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I had that measurement in the attic as well. In fact just last month.
long story short, the existing wire doesn't have ground so I have the ground wire from the bathroom fan just hanging. when I measure between ground and neutral, it's ~60v

peak cloud
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The first time I realized that ground/earth is tied to neutral at the panel blew my mind. I was so confused.

fallow galleon
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I thought something was leaking at first. Took me almost an hour to find out

peak cloud
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@tidal bronze Have you tried any of the new 100W PoE stuff yet?

tidal bronze
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Not yet

brave panther
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Lol Afya. Yeah a lot of people think it's some magical special protection line but in reality, for all intents and purposes, ground and neutral are the same and ground is just a backup pathway in case neutral gets severed.

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they literally go into the same grounding bar in the breaker box.

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Another thing that a lot of folks don't realize is that in a DC circuit, electrons actually flow from negative to positive. it's almost like they're being "sucked" towards the positive lead.

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thank Ben Franklin for the "positive" and "negative" conventions. 🙂

hushed basalt
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The ground and neutral are tied together so earth faults work correctly

last dirge
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@hushed basalt yeah but they're only supposed to be tied together in one place

hushed basalt
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Imagine you have a refrigerator, and it has active and neutral connected to the motor circuit, and earth is tied to the chassis.

The active wire insulation in the fridge breaks down, and comes in contact with the chassis of the fridge.

The active conductor rushes through the earth wiring and trips the RCD, or potentially the circuit breaker if the RCD doesn't go off first.

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Now say earth and neutral aren't tied. The active connector comes in contact with the fridge chassis. The fridge chassis is now active, but nothing happens. Because there's no circuit

brave panther
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yup so in the event your device somehow cuts the cord and bridges line to ground, the resistive load is no longer present and that should trip the breaker. or start a fire from all the heat...

hushed basalt
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You go about your business, years go by with a hot fridge 🥁

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And then your toasters neutral connector breaks down

brave panther
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then you step on the basement ground barefoot and open the fridge and get a tingling in your foot...

hushed basalt
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You pop the toaster at the same time as opening the fridge door

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And your heart is now the new load

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And ain't no RCD going to save you

brave panther
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i had the issue at my old place where my computer chassis would shock me with 60V in the basement if i walked around barefoot and touched it with th eback of my hand. never could find the cause.

hushed basalt
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I think that's part of SMPSs

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A floating potential sent to earth, but no current behind it

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My xbox 360 power supply did the same thing

scenic radish
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another fun feature of the 360 power supply is that you could unplug it and the LED stays lit for like 2 minutes

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residual powaaaaaa

wet pilot
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caps take time to drain and LEDs are low load

hushed basalt
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t = R x C

low harness
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And it's not like the C64 where the LED is an integral part of the power circuit...

hushed basalt
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High resistance (no load) x capacitance = lotsa time

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That probably would have been a filament lol

low harness
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Yeah, probably...

last dirge
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does Carlos still hang around here?

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I'd ask Hassbot if he's been seen

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but I don't know how

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or if it still does that

clever mortar
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He's not been around for a while now

last dirge
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RIP Carlos

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@trim cliff

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he's logged on 🙂

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set up the Carlos signal

trim cliff
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Public Sighting! 🙂 @last dirge

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Do you get all the twitter notifications when your code you wrote fo me ages ago senses a rocket launch?

last dirge
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no 🙂

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it still works?

trim cliff
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It 100% works!

last dirge
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cool

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that's probably the single most complicated templating I've ever done

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so I guess it went off a few days ago?

trim cliff
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It did.. I was just scrolling my tweet timeline to see if I could find the announcement. 🙂

peak cloud
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@brave panther That's a pretty awesome Secret Santa gift! Nice work on the user manual for it 🙂

brave panther
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I really enjoyed putting it together too

peak cloud
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Rocket launch notifications? That sounds sweet!

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@brave panther I might have to fork it and give the same three devices as a gift for someone's birthday next year.

brave panther
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Nice! Perhaps get some official FTDI if you can afford it, but I've not had issues so it might not be as important.

last dirge
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@peak cloud I wrote something that scraped some API for launches and sends a "you should go outside, there's a launch soon" TTS

peak cloud
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I might still have a couple of FTDI adapters lying around back from my RC days, but I wouldn't want to gift them.

last dirge
peak cloud
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@last dirge That's awesome!

last dirge
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pretty convoluted 🙂

steel urchin
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can i just say, i absolutely hate money

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it does nothing but cause stress

peak cloud
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@last dirge 😛

{%- for launch in value_json.launches if launch.location.id in [16, 17] %}
last dirge
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what about it?

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those are the two Carlo can see rockets from at his house 🙂

brave panther
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@peak cloud I almost always buy multiple and keep a few spare for things like those, so dollar cost averaging my entire gift I'm probably only gifting like $15 if the $20 limit 😁

peak cloud
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@last dirge I was providing an alternative way to use for loops combined with if.

last dirge
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eh

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it works

peak cloud
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This year I bought a couple Wyze cams, an Echo Flex (and a motion sensor for it), and a few other techy gifts to give as Secret Santa or gift exchanges.

last dirge
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I'm debating buying a new CCTV setup

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anybody use Lorex stuff?

peak cloud
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Wyze4Lyfe

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It's not particularly the best quality image, but at the price, you can't beat it.

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How dare you @unreal orbit!!!!!!!!!!

last dirge
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I found a deal that's 8 4K PoE cams and a NVR for $800

peak cloud
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Wow, that's intense, but I bet it'd be amazing to have. I miss my Hikvisions.

last dirge
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and I've already got a PoE CCTV setup so it'd just be swapping cameras

unreal orbit
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Low pricetag = paying for it through other means 😉

last dirge
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I'm just currently using 4MP cameras

brave panther
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those reolink cameras keep going down. $33.83 each for the 5mp bullet (after 20% coupon) and $38.24 for the 5mp dome (after 15% coupon)

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Amazon that is. I already own 6, all I need, else I'd get more ;)

strange vapor
last dirge
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dude, that's awesome

versed garden
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where can i ask about mqtt discovery?

steel urchin
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i'm of no authority, but i see people talking about it in #diy-archived frequently

versed garden
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thanks

tidal bronze
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Anyone integrated Pentair Mastertemp with HA using the 3 wire method?

scenic radish
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Home assistant is off topic here 😉

solar epoch
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@tidal bronze i have an ESP8266 controlling my Pentair Heater, Pump, Vlaves, and Light

tidal bronze
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That's awesome. I have pump lights etc all dialed in trying to do the heater without using intellitouch.

daring inlet
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Heya

tidal bronze
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So far.....

solar epoch
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@tidal bronze that's awesome, are you pulling that all through and intellitouch? mines all relay controlled to avoid buying a intellitouch or similar

tidal bronze
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Nopes. Goal is to do everything intellitouch does without using intellitouch. 🙂 Running a wiifi pi3 b+ and using nodejs pool controller. If you have VF/VS pump you can bypass and talk RS485 direct to the pump and get all the data.

solar epoch
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@tidal bronze i have seen that before a while back. i will have to give it another look, i got a pi 3 sitting around. but that would be nice to free up three of my relays for other stuff and control/ read data back from the pump...

tidal bronze
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It's pretty simple to setup can get the interface cable for around $10 on ebay if not $69 and usb to rs485 is about $6.99 🙂

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Was a bit of a task to setup the initial rest sensors can share the config once you have the interface going.

solar epoch
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@tidal bronze that would be much appreciated - code / programming is not my forte.

tidal bronze
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the bash script curl -k --silent "http://192.168.2.162:3000/pump" | jq -r '.pump."1".currentrunning.value'

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You should be all set 🙂

solar epoch
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Thank you! im excited to give it a try. Have you had any luck pulling your flow rate?

tidal bronze
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Didn't look into it yet. Adding z-wave temp sensors tonight. Using Fibaro FGK-10x + DS18B20

solar epoch
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nice, i have some onewire sensors iv been meaning to put in and feed back to the ESP. need to 3d print some brackets though

tidal bronze
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Going to add the sensors in side chlorine dispensers : -)

hushed basalt
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Urgh terrible building standards here

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It's 9am and without aircon on my interior is 5 degrees hotter than exterior

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It's almost as if our houses are designed to gain heat in summer and loose it in winter on purpose

strange vapor
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@hushed basalt One of my team has moved from Ireland to San Fran for a few years with family. He's still in shock at how badly insulated the houses are there. He's paying over 3k a month for a house in the Bay Area. If it's hot out side, the Aircon is fairly handy, if it's cold out, you're sort of screwed.

hushed basalt
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All this talk about carbon and electricity prices. And no one ever addresses the elephant in the room.

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But if people were more aware of how terrible standards are, developers would get lower ROI, and guess who are major political donors ;)

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Also demand for coal and gas and oil would be lower if people didn't use so much energy to heat and cool.

daring inlet
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Speaking of, I just bought my first smart thermostat!

wet pilot
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doesn't help that americans keep their houses at dumb temps

daring inlet
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Like, literally minutes ago, through my gas company (they have a special rebate program right now)

wet pilot
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there's no reason to keep a house at 68F in the summer

daring inlet
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Right? Needs to be 65F

tidal bronze
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You mean like 67

hushed basalt
wet pilot
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relative temps are a thing

daring inlet
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is MURIKAN, has stupid temps set

hushed basalt
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67 is pretty hot

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I think?

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I don't know

daring inlet
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I generally like cooler temps though

tidal bronze
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I guess 67 in the summer is not a dumb temp since dumb starts at 68

hushed basalt
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Your freedom units are confusing as hell

daring inlet
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That's about 19ish C

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19-20 give or take

hushed basalt
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Temperature is only one part of comfort

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Humidity, radiant heat from thermal masses, air flow are all huge factors

scenic radish
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73 during the day in the summer, 71 at night, 80 when away; 68 during the day in the winter, 65 at night, 66 when away. Good/bad? @wet pilot

daring inlet
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Don't forget cosmic alignment

wet pilot
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68F inside 95+ outside coupled with poor insulation == aircon that doesn't turn off

scenic radish
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Yeah dew point has a big impact on comfort

tidal bronze
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67 always for me

daring inlet
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I hope that's F @tidal bronze

hushed basalt
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You could have two houses with identical temperature, but one has lower humidity

wet pilot
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we do 78F in the summer, 74 winter (72 night)

tidal bronze
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Yes @daring inlet

hushed basalt
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And people would go "wow this house is so much cooler"

scenic radish
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74 winter?!

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🔥

wet pilot
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yeah, baby. we can't keep her with covers on right now :/

scenic radish
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Ah

daring inlet
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I personally radiate heat so I need to be sub-70s to be comfortable

hushed basalt
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Get a sleeping bag

scenic radish
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I also am a furnace

hushed basalt
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@daring inlet do you have humidity sensors

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I'd be curious to know the relative humidity

daring inlet
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Not yet but I just ordered an ecobee so I will!

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I have a whole house humidifier to hook up to that as well (if I can)

wet pilot
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the remote sensors don't have humidity sensors unfortunately

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only the thermostat

daring inlet
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That's alright

hushed basalt
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I would say you need a dehumidifier

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But without the right air tightness in your house it's wasted effort

daring inlet
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Dehumidifier? Nah it gets pretty dang dry sometimes here

scenic radish
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Oddly enough I can't get the dew point low enough in my place during the winter.

daring inlet
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@wet pilot you have an ecobee?

hushed basalt
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It's 50% in my house atm

wet pilot
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i do

hushed basalt
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Usually 40-60%

daring inlet
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What version?

scenic radish
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@hushed basalt at what temp?

wet pilot
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4

hushed basalt
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28 degrees

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But I'm not home

daring inlet
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Ahh ok. I just bought the "new" version (4v2/5/whatever it's called)

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I wonder if the remote sensors are improved at all

wet pilot
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allegedly they have

scenic radish
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16.5 C dew point. Pretty high for the winter but I'm guessing it's hot where you're at

wet pilot
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better sensing range at least

daring inlet
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Cool

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This is my first real "smart" product so far

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Or rather home automation product anyway

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I have smartphones and smart TVs and such lol

hushed basalt
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It's summer

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Middle of a heat wave

daring inlet
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Several other things I intend to get are: switches/dimmers, door locks, garage door thing(?), Not sure what else really

hushed basalt
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"smart thermostats" aren't really a thing in Australia

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At least in my state

wet pilot
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y'all don't really do central air there right?

hushed basalt
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As everyone has proprietary controllers for their HVAC. Not simple on/off

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Yeah

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People don't have boilers either

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Ducted air con is pretty common though

wet pilot
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unless you go far to the south, winters don't get too terrible there

hushed basalt
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Even far south I don't think it's too bad. Certainly not Norwat levels

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It only snows in mountains in the south

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For americans and europeans with ducted air conditioners

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Do you have return ducts for every supply duct, or just like a common return duct in the hallway?

wet pilot
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my house has 3 returns

scenic radish
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One return for me 😬

wet pilot
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one on each floor + and extra in the mbr

scenic radish
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1100 sq ft condo (102 sq m)

wet pilot
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2300 sqft house

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213.677 sqm

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2x 20"x20" and 1x 14"x14" returns in this place

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11 rooms with registers

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(some with multiple)

scenic radish
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One 12" x 24" return. 7 conditioned rooms, one supply each

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I'm...not convinced that's enough return area but it doesn't seem to cause issues

wet pilot
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someone mathed it out at one point. its probably the bare minimum 😛

hushed basalt
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Every system I've ever seen in Australia only has one return vent per system

scenic radish
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I have a 2 ton AC so I need 800 CFM

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Who knows what is actually happening

hushed basalt
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It's super dumb though because your aircon doesn't work properly when your doors are shut

scenic radish
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Yup

wet pilot
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yup

scenic radish
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You can install a jump duct tho

hushed basalt
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Renting :/

wet pilot
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that's why our mbr has its own return though i think

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we can keep our door closed

hushed basalt
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If I close the baby's room the room gets super cold/hot

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But if I open the door light and noise gets in

wet pilot
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i've seen some trick strike-plates have have a 2nd hole to partially close a door but keep it latched

hushed basalt
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Plus from a pressure point of view, the supply air would just get pushed out the windows and ceiling leaks

wet pilot
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that's the main issue

hushed basalt
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Which means outdoor air gets sucked into the return area

wet pilot
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unless you get a variable speed blower the back-pressure isn't good for it either

hushed basalt
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Indeed

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I'm a big fan of splits myself

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Solves all those issues.

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Bulkhead cartridges can look pretty schmick too if they're done right

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Plus you don't need to run a whole house to cool one master bedroom at night

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Have you ever come across heat recovery ventilators @wet pilot

daring inlet
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See, the problem with that around here is that the temps outside can fluctuate extremely wildly, and to heat up a house or cool one down after it's not been temperature controlled often takes more energy than simply leaving it as being temp controlled

hushed basalt
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It's complicated

daring inlet
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You may be fine in one room for a number of hours but trying to heat up another one when you move costs too much to do often (even daily)

hushed basalt
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If you put some power meters on your circuits you could find out imperically

daring inlet
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If you generally have moderate climate and consistency though I can see that being possible. Often in spring and fall months I keep the heater off completely

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That's true. I'm tempted to do that (I've been slowly rewiring the house anyway due to old wiring and adding new AFCIs)

scenic radish
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@hushed basalt I know that wasn't directed at me but I wish I had an HRV

hushed basalt
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Gotta have good air tightness though

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Otherwise they're ineffective

scenic radish
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Yup. I think it's decent at my place (casement windows, good weatherstripping on exterior doors) but I've never had a blower door test done

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Would be very curious

hushed basalt
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I'd say if it wasn't built and designed for air tightness it'd probably be way too loose

steel urchin
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now when you say 11 rooms, do you mean rooms?

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this new house we're in has returns in every room, which is awesome

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aaaand i realized i'm scrolled up

wet pilot
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Lol

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@hushed basalt I have not

hushed basalt
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You should look into them

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They're kind of like a radiator. But instead of heat transfer of air/fluid. They're air/air.

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And with high quality filters on the incoming supply, and an airtight house. They give you a super clean house environment.

wet pilot
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nice. Low quality builder of this house though so airtight is never going to happen

steel urchin
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umm.. where's the money for the RAM bojo?

scenic radish
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@hushed basalt in some cases they also allow for "passive cooling" when the air outside is significantly lower than the inside (and is also dry)

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Air handler runs and some of the air comes from the ventilator

hushed basalt
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Yeah summer bypass

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Super useful here

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It was 15 degrees cooler outside last night than indoors

wet pilot
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i'll usually crack open some windows if the humidity isn't terrible

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(which it usually is)

hushed basalt
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Windows are such a pita haha

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Have to get the key, open the blinds, unlock the window, unwind, lock in place, lower blinds,

Repeat 4 or 5 times.

Put key back.

Then do it all again when it's time to close the windows

wet pilot
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the new windows we just put in have triangle tabs in the top sashes that can stop the window partially open. this way they can be open and not be that much less secure than windows usually are

hushed basalt
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Ah that's handy

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I guess you still have the air pollution problem though

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And the lack of automation

wet pilot
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eh, suburbia, not too terrible here. humidity is our only problem

hushed basalt
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I did the math, and ignoring the air pollution, window winders and such would cost way more than just more solar, better windows, better insulation etc

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To counter act the loss of "free" cross ventilation

daring inlet
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wait. key? for a window?

wet pilot
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have to keep the drop bears out

daring inlet
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goodness

wet pilot
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/s if you couldn't guess 😛

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i worked APAC hours for a while and almost moved to AUS so i picked up a few things

daring inlet
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what? really??? 😮

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lol nice

scenic radish
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Gotta watch out for those drop bears

daring inlet
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You know, speaking of securing against drop bears, I'd like to find some smart locks or strikes that can integrate into a smart home environment, but everything off the shelf seems to be battery powered

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or not exactly home-friendly

wet pilot
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eh, the consumer industry disagrees. its much easier to add something that doesn't require running wires

scenic radish
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I prefer human-powered deadbolts

wet pilot
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but you could probably retro a commercial strike-plate system and hook it up to an esp or something

scenic radish
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Something something electronic strike

daring inlet
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what a lucky strike

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and yeah I was looking at strike plates but I don't care much for them (and on the doors I'd use them on, there are wooden frames)

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so that would kind of be annoying

wet pilot
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that's the other issue

daring inlet
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I like the look of kwikset's Kevo deadbolts, but... yeah, batteries

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I'm tired of constantly changing/charging batteries in things heh

last dirge
#

the nina, the pinta, the santa maria 🎵

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@daring inlet Kwikset makes bumpable locks though

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gotta factor that in

daring inlet
#

oh yeah, i don't want that. I'm just saying I like the look of it

last dirge
#

buy a lock that's a lock first, then smart

daring inlet
#

that means I need new locks now 😂

last dirge
#

🙂

wet pilot
#

Or get that August thing that replaces the inside deadbolt switch

last dirge
#

eh

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speaking of locks

daring inlet
#

also eh, that doesn't mitigate the bump

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and it looks bulky heh

wet pilot
#

Well, then you can use any good lock

last dirge
#

if you're in the US and don't have weird euro door locks and you need to re-key more than one lock look on Amazon

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you can buy rekey kits for most manufacturers that'll do up to 10 locks and they come with keys

daring inlet
#

but keys inherently are flawed, no?

wet pilot
#

I mean, it's residential

last dirge
#

sure, most keys are inherently flawed

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but if the lock sucks, that doesn't help

daring inlet
#

that doesn't mean I don't have stuff worth keeping from being stolen

wet pilot
#

Door locks won't prevent a motivated actor

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Of any type

daring inlet
#

of course not. windows are easily broken looks into bulletproof glass

last dirge
#

that's my front door

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doesn't matter what lock I put there TBH

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it's surrounded by glass

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still put a Schlage in

daring inlet
#

and those are... good? 🤔

wet pilot
#

Schlage are generally well regarded

last dirge
#

Schlage makes some of the best residential locks available

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call some locksmiths around you

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see what they'd recommend

daring inlet
#

(I know next to nothing about locks really, just that key ones can often be picked/bumped, and that I want something "smart" but secure lol)

#

fair enough

last dirge
#

I've got the Schlage Z-wave

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uses 4 AAs

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they last ~7 months depending on usage

wet pilot
#

We don't really use our front door here so I haven't bothered with adding smart locks

last dirge
#

I got it for my dog sitter

wet pilot
#

Makes sense

last dirge
#

or friends that may need to grab something from the house

wet pilot
#

Eh, garage has a keypad and the garage door is hooked up to zwave

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I can let someone in remotely that way as needed

daring inlet
#

I'd want one for my side door mainly... I'm often bringing work bags in and out and keys are annoying

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also I tend to forget my keys sometimes inside and lock myself out

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(twice in 3 years so far...)

wet pilot
#

Lol

daring inlet
#

I never forget my phone though heh

wet pilot
#

We leave the door to the garage unlocked

last dirge
#

my phone is my car key

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so I can't forget it

daring inlet
#

that's the way to do it

wet pilot
#

And we're apparently weird and actually park our car in the garage 😛

last dirge
#

what kind of psycho parks in the garage?

errant steeple
#

I thought garages were for you to store a bunch of junk you never need or touch

last dirge
errant steeple
#

😂

last dirge
#

32 year old car inside

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plugged in cars outside

wet pilot
#

Lol

hushed basalt
#

@daring inlet keys for windows is pretty standard here

last dirge
#

and when I'm not working on projects that take up the other side of the garage, the Volt takes that spot

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the Tesla lives outside

errant steeple
#

Lol that's funny

daring inlet
#

blinks rapidly a volt AND a tesla

last dirge
#

indeed

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and a Porsche 951

errant steeple
#

😳

daring inlet
#

talk about monies

last dirge
#

heh

daring inlet
#

serious talk though: what kind of power uh... things... do you have to have for an electric or hybrid anyway?

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I'm holding out for VW's more sedan-like electric options they're working on

last dirge
#

I've got 2 50A 220V circuits run to the garage for the chargers

errant steeple
#

So I has a home assistant question, I'm big on watching YouTube vids for advice and getting to know stuff, is there a content provider for home assistant and hardware and such that's like thee go to? I got into unraid and Spaceinvader one is like a godsend for that kinda stuff, was just curious if there's someone similar

daring inlet
#

surprised you haven't made some kind of DIY inductive chargers for your cars haha

errant steeple
#

Solar panel roof haha

last dirge
#

inductive charging is SUPER inefficient

daring inlet
#

but "ugh I have to plug it in again???"

last dirge
#

@errant steeple nope

errant steeple
#

Ahhh bummer, was hoping to find someone worth binge watching while at work lol

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Thanks for the response

last dirge
#

you could look at Carlo's stuff https://youtube.com/vCloudInfo

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Ben @cunning garnet is rebooting his channel

errant steeple
#

I have a gti myself, too poor for them.electrics haha

last dirge
#

there's also that one bald dude that does ESPHome videos; I can't remember his name

errant steeple
#

I feel like I watched a video or two of this Carlos you linked

last dirge
#

@errant steeple depending on which GTI, the Model 3 isn't much more

errant steeple
#

18 se, I got it for a heck of a deal cuz it sat on the lot for about a year lol

last dirge
#

how optioned?

errant steeple
#

6 speed no one wanted manual in my area apparently

last dirge
#

still pretty close in price 🙂

errant steeple
#

SE trim, manual, moon roof, large navigation screen Clarke plaid seats (I don't like leather) also threw in the VW care plan for the entirety of my loan, 0.9%

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For about 25k

wet pilot
#

that's the "modest" trim

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not the $$$ one

errant steeple
#

Yes that's the wolfesburg

wet pilot
#

not really giving up much though

last dirge
#

I had a MKV GLI

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6MT

wet pilot
#

i'm thinking about a MK8

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used to have a FoST

errant steeple
#

Only thing WB has that I WISH I had was the adaptive cruise control lol

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I looked at those too, when I sat in and drove the gti though... I was in love.

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Was wanting an RS3 but $$$

wet pilot
#

sold it because i wasn't driving it enough. Also the value started jumping because ford killed it in the US

last dirge
#

hahaha

wet pilot
#

i'd love the RS3 if it was a hatch

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but yeah $$$

errant steeple
#

If Audi made manuals.... I would have sold a kidney or something to make it happen

wet pilot
#

i was hoping they'd do a Golf R400

last dirge
#

I was going to buy a Focus RS and while I was still mulling it over I got an email from Tesla saying I could order my model 3 🙂

errant steeple
#

Ohhhh ya that'd be neat

wet pilot
#

drop the RS3 drivetrain in a Golf R -> Sold

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would still prefer a manual but at least i'd get the hatch out of it

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and probably a 5-10k discount on the rs3 😛

last dirge
#

DSG is a weirdo transmission

wet pilot
#

a bit

#

their 7sp is apparently solid though'

errant steeple
#

Oh ya golf r platform.... We're really dreaming lol

last dirge
#

no transmission gang

errant steeple
#

😎

last dirge
#

#singlespeedlife

errant steeple
#

Oof

wet pilot
#

heh

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the Porsche went 2 speed

errant steeple
#

Lol so I bought a pi4 2gb at microcenter the other day...

last dirge
#

and got a 201 mile rating LOL

errant steeple
#

And ANOTHER pizero w when I have 3 sitting in a drawer already

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What's that mean?

wet pilot
#

apparently because the EPA de-rates their values to 70% of max

#

the euro cycle has it a lot higher

last dirge
#

@errant steeple it means you should send me a zerow

errant steeple
#

They're 10 bucks at microcenter haha

#

Right now at least...

last dirge
#

there's one in my car

errant steeple
#

Like... Chilling? Or in use haha

last dirge
#

in use

#

it acts like a USB drive for the dashcam recordings

errant steeple
#

Oh neat! In the Tesla?

last dirge
#

and when it jumps on my wifi network, it backs up any saved recordings to my NAS automagically

errant steeple
#

Oh cool! Do you use it to upload to a server when u get home or something?

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Oh nice!

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I was debating something like that when I eventually put my dash cam in

last dirge
#

also, the car sometimes corrupts the USB drive

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when the zerow boots, it checks that partition and runs fsck on it to fix it

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then mounts it to the car

#

some genius wrote the software I'm using

errant steeple
#

Gotta love them geniuses

last dirge
errant steeple
#

Lol I just found out about hass.io like... A few days ago

#

Neat hearing all the different stuff people implement

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With Pi's and whatnot

wet pilot
#

the rabbit hole is deep

last dirge
#

indeed

wet pilot
#

wait until you find ESPs

last dirge
#

there are a lot of people smarter than me

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and I'm no dummy

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it's humbling

errant steeple
#

Luckily my wallet is non-existent in the money department so I been dreaming

last dirge
#

get your money up, son

errant steeple
#

But I've discovered I have random stuff that may be able to be implemented so that's kinda cool

#

What's esps?

last dirge
#

heh

#

wifi-enabled microcontroller platform

errant steeple
#

?

#

Like making dumb devices smart kinda thing ?

wet pilot
#

kinda

errant steeple
#

Something else to add to the list of stuff to look up I reckon lol

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So far I have a wyze bulb, 2 wyze plugs, a wyze cam, wifi connected garage door opener, and a schlage connect deadbolt and a plethora of pi zeros and a pi4 2gb lol

#

I think the lutron dimmable switch in the baby's room may be capable? But not sure

wet pilot
#

might need a hub

#

lutron is all zwave iirc

errant steeple
#

Ya I saw something about that conbee ii USB ?

#

This thing I think?

wet pilot
#

conbee is zigbee not zwave

errant steeple
#

Oof

#

More homework

#

Alright welp I'm off to bed, got the little one to sleep finally

last dirge
#

ah, that's why you're broke

errant steeple
#

Later peeps

#

😭

#

Indeed

#

Lol

#

Formula is no joke..

wet pilot
#

That and daycare

#

Almost out of the formula phase finally

#

Daycare will be a while 😕

brisk glen
hushed basalt
#

I'm glad we haven't had to use formula

#

Daycare will be a killer though

#

My sister spent $40k a year on daycare at the peak

clear ferry
#

I bought all formula in Sweden

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1/3 of the price of Norway

#

Daycare is $300 per month, with all meals included here

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5 days a week, 8 hours every day

hushed basalt
#

State subsidised?

clear ferry
#

Not sure

#

That is just the price

#

It probably is

#

The state also pays allowance to single parents so that they have have kids in daycare

clear ferry
#

Twinkly 250 gen2 on sale for $90

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I'm getting one

#

They usually retail for $120 here

hushed basalt
#

RGB. It's a disease.

clear ferry
#

Holy

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That's pricy

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Unless it's Barbie dollars

#

Even though it is pricy actually

hushed basalt
#

Yeah barbie dollars

#

We get the Australia tax plus the conversion rate

#

That's one of the cheaper listings too

#

Steam publishers often charge an extra 30% USD for Australian customers. Just because.

#

DyNamIc PriCiNg

clear ferry
hushed basalt
clear ferry
green inlet
#

@shy laurel , I can’t find the pi-hole test site. You may have to clear your browser history though

last dirge
#

lol kids

#

aka money sinks

shy laurel
#

yeah it has been removed I think @green inlet

#

I found the url to it, but it doesn't exist anymore

#

I think the ad I'm referring to isn't blocked because it's hosted by the site itself

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so I think pi-hole just can't block it

last dirge
#

chances are trying to block that ad would block a ton of images on that CDN

jagged ridge
#

Hello - brand new to Discord and this channel. HA new user. Running Hass.IO as a VM in Virtualbox on MacOS Mojave. Up and running with MQTT auto-discovery working. Having JSON payload problems to trigger Valetudo zone cleaning. What channel is the best place to ask my questions? (Have read the forum rules, HA FAQ, MQTT docs, watched hours of Youtube vids on Node-Red scripting - but generally a JSON newb.)

scenic radish
brisk glen
#

There is soo much wrong

#

Vbox runs slow vs VMware, and don’t even think about the half assed parallels

scenic radish
#

yeah i have no knowledge about VMs other than knowing what they are

tight tiger
#

"Apple, Google and Amazon are teaming up to develop an open-source smart home standard"

brave panther
#

Saw that, VERY cool

scenic radish
#

yeah... we'll see lol

inner vault
#

I'd like to see this actually mean being able to run google assistant on alexa devices and vice versa, but it will never happen

brave panther
#

Reminds me of the video codec standard on XKCD though.

inner vault
#

better, being able to run open source assistants on their hardware

jagged ridge
#

@brisk glen - Open to trying a different VM. Just using the tools I know (and I use Parallels for work - didn't even try to go there.) But are you saying that VBox is my problem or just a VM preference? 😉

brave panther
brisk glen
#

The vm is not your issue

#

I just hate vbox on Mac due to poor cpu performance:p

jagged ridge
#

Yeah it's a hog. Takes about 5 min for Hass.io to come up fully on an 2011 Mac-mini dual core.

brave panther
last dirge
#

that's pretty cool

unreal orbit
#

That's nice that you include docs

scenic radish
#

...that will likely go unread 😢

brave panther
#

Hehe. Hope not! I spent a lot of time cleaning things up and making it very easy to use.

#

But if so, that's fine - always another recipient! dale3h said he might have to steal it for birthday gift. It's not a bad "starter kit" for someone who is interested in, but mildly intimidated by, IoT

#

And if you get things from BangGood or AliExpress you can get all of what I included (ESP8266, Sonoff Basic R2, USB/TTL adapter, breadboard, and a two-prong extension cord) for under $20 total

#

I got the extension cord from Family Dollar last night on the way home, $1.75 plus tax

#

not bad for a cord with three outlets that have swiveling covers to guard them!

strange vapor
#

Damn good book.

last dirge
#

family baller

steel urchin
#

anyone remember when google already did that and it failed miserably?

#

TWICE?!

steel urchin
#

are companies as shitty and greedy in other countries outside of the US?

#

like... i try to cancel my internet, and they apparently slipped into the bill (that i get digitally with zero notification about said bill because it's on auto-pay) that things are monthly subscription... I cancelled on the FIRST day of my billing cycle, and now they're making me pay or all services for a month, PLUS charging me for the equipment that i NEVER used "until i return it" (had purchased my own)

#

as far as i'm concerned, that should be illegal

#

i mean, it's only $300 out of pocket, but for some people that's the difference between sleeping under a bridge and a roof

scenic radish
#

They're not prorating? That's dumb

wet pilot
#

sounds like comcast

scenic radish
#

Might as well wait to switch

steel urchin
#

spectrum, so basically yeah

wet pilot
#

could probably have a FTC claim

steel urchin
#

well i already cancelled, and now have gigabit fiber at the new house

#

yeah i did file an FCC claim

#

and i'm in the process of accessing the regional manager for spectrum

wet pilot
#

F T C

#

FCC doesn't do jack shit

steel urchin
#

well, i started with FTC, and they said billing wasn't a concern of theirs, try the FCC, which DID have a way to file for billing

#

ftc is more concerned with phishing scams and identity theft these days

fallow galleon
#

remind me which is corrupted?

wet pilot
#

they're both a hot mess

steel urchin
#

lol

wet pilot
#

fuck this administration

steel urchin
#

^

unreal orbit
#

easy on the politics 😉 (though I know many of us agree with that sentiment)

wet pilot
#

is terrible as it sounds, i really want a designated survivor event to happen at this point

wet pilot
#

wipe out all politicians and start over

steel urchin
#

oh i'd be dead in a purge event

unreal orbit
#

that seems fair

#

just think of it as extreme hide and seek

steel urchin
#

brb building a bunker

#

then later i can say: "I'll be in my bunk" (firefly anyone?)

#

without actually getting into real politics, i've always joked that our next president needs to be a homeless person... Either that'll really showcase how stupid our country is on an individual level, or the person may actually make an insane change that benefits lower-class

#

it'd be interesting to see something radical happen

#

without death and devastation involved

wet pilot
#

we need 2 week election cycles max and a campaign finance cap at 100k

steel urchin
#

1k should be enough... build a website, the end... done...

wet pilot
#

you gotta pay a few peeps and polls aren't cheap

steel urchin
#

submit it to a central platform for me as a "consumer" to browse, find matches, etc

#

fuck polls

wet pilot
#

might have to rent at least one venue

steel urchin
#

polls are so 1800

#

we have more people contributing to voting for American Idol than we do for presidency, and with far more accuracy and validity

wet pilot
#

lol

#

compulsive voting would change a bunch of things

#

and ranked ballots

#

[3] candidate 1
[2] candidate 2
[1] candidate 3
[4] candidate 4

#

easy algorithm to run up to 3 elections until one candidate has the majority of votes

steel urchin
#

plot twist, the people ARE the plague!

unreal orbit
#

I don't know if it can be considered a twist when we knew that already

steel urchin
#

haha

#

i gotta say, i havne't even installed HA yet, been here for ~2 weeks, and you lot are alright

wet pilot
#

we have our moments

unreal orbit
#

sometimes several in one day

midnight adder
#

hi

#

trying to get hass.io pared down so that it's not so chatty on my network - how do I completely prevent homeassistant.components.tradfri and homeassistant.components.sonos from loading?

scenic radish
midnight adder
#

sorry i asked in the wrong channel - new to discord

glossy mortar
#

D'oh! I just spent half an hour building a time left sensor for a timer, before remembering that I won't be able to have it update every second. Time to rewrite it in Javascript in a button card.

unreal orbit
#

You can't just use a HA timer?

glossy mortar
#

It is the HA timer, but the problem is that only the entities card will show the actual countdown.

#

And I want to use a button card, as it's a lot more flexible.

#

And I'd be able to tap the entire card, instead of just the icon.

unreal orbit
#

custom:button-card already shows timer duration in real time

glossy mortar
#

Nope, it used to, but the functionality was broken some versions ago.

unreal orbit
#

it's working right now 🤷

glossy mortar
#

Not here, all I'm getting is the icon and the name, no matter the layout.

#

Unless there's some magic switch to enable it.

unreal orbit
#

maybe you need to update

light trout
scenic radish
#

💥

steel urchin
#

LOL, i just submitted a review for my fridge to enter a $2500 contest thing (spam email so it's ok)... wrote a nice writeup, as i'm pleased with the purchase.... hit submit... "Thanks for reviewing your new Dishwasher!" 🤦‍♀️

scenic radish
light trout
wet pilot
#

it might not span major versions, would require testing

errant steeple
#

@wet pilot the lady's mom watching her while we're both at work luckily! We also found a girl locally who watches kids for $100 a week which is like half of the price of all the daycares near us

wet pilot
#

that's pretty awesome

#

we got lucky and found an in home that's $150/week

#

which is super cheep considering

clear mirage
errant steeple
#

Almost 6 years of sobriety here... RIP lol

#

@wet pilot that's awesome!! Just her watching your kid/s at your place?! I'd dig that. Specially if you got cams to keep an eye on em whenever lol.

unreal orbit
#

That's a lot of stouts 🤢

wet pilot
#

nah, we gotta take her somewhere

errant steeple
#

I think we may switch to the caretaker down the road just for socialization and what not

#

Ohhhh ok I got ya

wet pilot
#

she's registered and whatnot so we still get to write off the taxes at least

clear mirage
#

@unreal orbit yea stouts arent reallly my thing either but ill try them at least. And good thing I'm in walking distance

wet pilot
#

a good stout is the meal sometimes

#

have to sit down and commit to those

unreal orbit
#

I enjoy the very occasional stout. Kind of a planets are aligned situation

clear mirage
#

Lol. Yea too me i think stouts are more approitate for this time of year. I prefer IPAs myself

clear ferry
#

Stouts 🤢

#

Sour ale, Berliner weisse, Weiss bier, lambic, or ipa

errant steeple
#

I was a, whiskey, scotch, bourbon, drinker kinda guy. Wasn't much for beers lol

unreal orbit
#

I don't drink often. My max is usually an IPA or two

clear ferry
#

I didn't start drinking beer until I was 31

#

I drink maybe 2 units per month

clear mirage
#

There are sjust so many choices now for beer, and sometimes its cheaper than cocktails

clear ferry
#

You should try Norway, a beer at a bar will cost you $6-$12 depending

#

A whisky will be $8-$15

clear mirage
#

actually thehead chef at tthe place went backpacking there eariler this year.

#

at my place, the draft beer will be anywhere $4.50 to $10, but you can get coors banquet, bud ligt etc for $2.50

clear ferry
#

Heck a coke will cost you $3-5 at a bar 😛

clear mirage
unreal orbit
#

The pictures are making me hungry

errant steeple
#

Oh mannnnn no kidding! I haven't eaten yet today...

#

I wanna see the screwdriver you use for those!!

clear mirage
#

@unreal orbit @errant steeple yea the food is really good too.

#

@clear ferry we're actaully working on project now for the trusses for solar panels. they're 26' long and only 4 fit on a truck. the bitch is trying to pain them

scenic radish
#

i prefer light beers and IPAs myself

#

never really liked lagers

#

a little late, i know. feeling like internet explorer/edge rn

clear ferry
clear mirage
#

@scenic radish just a tad late. I've never liked lagers either

scenic radish
#

never understood [why people like] the "no one:" meme format

unreal orbit
#

That's because you're not hip to the new lingo, ya dig?

steel urchin
#

that one is a stretch, but knowyourmeme has your back

languid robin
#

Guys I'm really sorry if this is a stupid questions, but how would you start your smart home setup if you had the chance to choose?
I was thinking smarthings hub but that's not available in Italy, do you think mi smart sensor set and mi bulbs would suffice?

scenic radish
#

rather, i understand the meme format but don't find it funny lol

thorn ocean
#

@languid robin Start with something you would like to automate, then go from there is my advice

languid robin
#

Well the first thing would be light bulbs and an alarm triggered by a sensor

#

The roblem is I realized I can't really get the control I wished for with the mi home app

#

Specifically blaring the alarm on every echo dot rather than just the hub

thorn ocean
#

Seems you already have the devices

clear ferry
#

@scenic radish because you aren't funny angryboi

languid robin
#

Not really but I don't have much of a choice here in Italy, I was looking for suggestions

clear ferry
#

@languid robin zigbee2mqtt, openmqttgateway and docker

steel urchin
#

curious, other than normalizing your protocol what's the advantage of zigbee2mqtt?

clear ferry
#

One mesh, not dependant on specific vendors

#

Many options for coordinator

steel urchin
#

well but you still are

#

don't you still need a zigbee receiver to then transpond?

scenic radish
#

@clear ferry one fewer cherry item for you i guess 😛

languid robin
#

@@clear ferry At that point the xiaomi hub becomes useless right?

clear ferry
#

@languid robin you can use it as a speaker

#

@steel urchin what?

scenic radish
#

@clear ferry what?

steel urchin
#

@clear ferry what?

scenic radish
#

@steel urchin what?

scenic radish
#

nightmare fuel

thorn ocean
#

Is this actually positive news, seems they opted to go for an open source solution, however what about privacy? to what extend will it be open source? https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2019/12/amazon-apple-google-and-the-zigbee-alliance-to-develop-connectivity-standard/

Apple Newsroom

Amazon, Apple, Google, and the Zigbee Alliance today announced a new working group that plans to develop and promote a new connectivity standard.

steel urchin
#

if you didn't know about /giphy... yw

clear ferry
scenic radish
#

@clear ferry what?

velvet horizonBOT
#

@clear ferry Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.

steel urchin
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My personal opinion on that is the same for Android... It's amazing, but don't be fooled into thinking you're protected or private... There will be forks that remove telemetry and privacy concerns i'm sure

clear ferry
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You don't like my Bitmoji @scenic radish ?

steel urchin
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@clear ferry my understanding is that zigbee requires a controller, right?

clear ferry
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@steel urchin yes, a flashed usb stick

steel urchin
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so with that, you're still very dependent on vendors

clear ferry
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No

steel urchin
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in that, you have a sub-mesh that completely goes bye bye if that transponder dies

clear ferry
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Just keep a second stick flashed, replace it

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Back up 😛

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No repair needed

steel urchin
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i mean, we already have the abstraction of how to interact with messages and events/etc with HA, so normalizing every proprietary protocol with a singular protocol has no added value

scenic radish
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@clear ferry i do

steel urchin
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anyway, i was wondering what you really gained from zigbee2mqtt with HA involved

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i can see writing my own mqtt broker at some point and that becoming a critical path, but in context of HA i feel i'm missing something or .. maybe i'm not?

clever mortar
steel urchin
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fair

clever mortar
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But, it's about separating the location of the Zigbee stick from the location of HA

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So, run HA in the rack in the basement, run the Zigbee controller in the middle of the house

steel urchin
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i see, so mesh's that are too spread can be bridged with mqtt over the wifi

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makes sense now! didn't even think in that context

clever mortar
unreal orbit
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I have not seen Good Omens yet, but it is on my list

clever mortar
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It's exactly what I expected out of the authors

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The choice of actors really worked too

clear ferry
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Aye, the book is great

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And the adaption is very good too

clever mortar
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The TV series is what I'd call a Hitchhikers adaptation - messed about with the details to make it fit the medium better, but didn't suffer for it

unreal orbit
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Yeah I was already sold when I saw David Tennant. Plus Heaven V Hell is one of my favorite literary topics

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(or just angels and demons)

clever mortar
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Well, being Gaiman and Pratchett... it's not so much Heaven vs Hell 😄

clear ferry
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Isn't sandman being adapted now too?

clever mortar
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Netflix, yeah

unreal orbit
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The Colour of Magic shows up on Audible until I sign in and then it says it doesn't exist 😡

clear ferry
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Wife is a pratchett person, has all the books almost

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I've only read good omens

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But played all the discworld games

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I'm a Stephen king person

clever mortar
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Partchett is funny, though towards the end his writing suffers a bit

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If she likes Pratchett, try Douglas Adams

steel urchin
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i feel like i remember the Something Wicked This Way Comes series was the same... good, but not quite as the book went

unreal orbit
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Douglas Adams was a genius. Hitchhikers guide novels make me laugh out loud every time I read

clear ferry
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I should buy her all the hitchhiker's stuff on Kindle ThinkEyes

ocean mirage
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‘Buy’

clear ferry
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I actually buy books and ebooks 😛

ocean mirage
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That’s not very cool of you

unreal orbit
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I'm sure publishers and authors think it is

clever mortar
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I buy... quite a lot of books (mostly ebooks, but...)

ocean mirage
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Oh yeah, Douglas Adams could really use the money ;)

unreal orbit
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His family could I'm sure

ocean mirage
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His rich family

unreal orbit
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🤷 some of us don't like to break laws arbitrarily

clever mortar
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Well, he created stuff, why shouldn't he and his family profit from it?

ocean mirage
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They have

inner vault
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ethical considerations of breaking laws you don't agree with put aside - Lobbyists have done terrible things to the state of copyright extension beyond the original artist's death that have warped the original intent behind copyright laws.

wet pilot
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thanks Disney 😛

clear ferry
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Fun fact

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I have a friend who created a company called copy left

light trout
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You should tell him/her to update the footer, it's almost 2020...

daring inlet
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I figure maybe I should ask in here instead... Has anyone here used GE's "My Touch Smart" line of switches and outlets?

languid robin
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Echo dots, mi light bulbs and xiaomi sensor set

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Alternatively I could go with Philips hue for the bulbs or with google home, don't think I have much choice for the sensors though

limber musk
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Hey. I am currently running a hassio instance on a rpi 3, and i am very happy with it. I have recently started looking at getting a nas, either synology or qnap. As far as I can tell, it should be possible to install hassio with docker on either of these. I am wondering if anyone here has any recomendation for either synology or qnap as I find it hard to choose 😛

unkempt rune
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The synology software is amazing

languid robin
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Anyway, I'll soon be off for the night. My questions still stands, as I plan on purchasing the stuff tomorrow. If anyone could chime in and help a first timer it would be greatly appreciated 😄

scenic radish
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Welp my credit card was just used for a fraudulent purchase. My card company's M A S H E E N L U R N I N G detected a weird purchase and notified me

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I've had this card number memorized for years dammit

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Which one of you shits used my card

ocean mirage
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you should never memorise credit card numbers

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thats how mind readers get you

scenic radish
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ah damn, good point

steel urchin
hushed basalt
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I memorise my card numbers in batman symbology

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Then convert with my batman to number rolodex

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Check mate mind readers

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🦇

daring inlet
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@languid robin personally I've thought about it and I would go with regular/dimmable bulbs (unless you need color control or something like that), and smart sockets/switches/outlets. That way replacement is a lot simpler and less pricy when/if one burns out. But that's just my preference. I am pretty new as well and haven't had any experience with those products.

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Actually, I wonder... Is there a channel/room for hardware related discussion like purchases and recommendations and such? Or just kind of anywhere relevant?

scenic radish
daring inlet
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Fair enough, thanks 🙂

hushed basalt
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@daring inlet don't underestimate the power of colour tuning

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Especially daylight/tungsten

steel urchin
daring inlet
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@hushed basalt u rite tho

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I mean I'd want color control if only for being able to do holiday based lighting (Halloween 4 lyfe yo)

storm summit
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I'm finally one of the cool kids. Just got 1gig up and down at home

hushed basalt
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Biggest thing I use is colour temperature control

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Light temperature you want at 9pm is different to 9am, 2pm and 5pm etc

steel urchin
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hehe same @storm summit

analog copper
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Hey, I'm pretty new to HASS, just trying out the CEC scanner. It says to run it, then Check the add-on log output to see the result.. Where do I find this add-on log output?

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oh my god, I just scrolled down on the page and found it

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facepalm

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was searching for like 10 minutes

normal ferry
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I'm trying to post a new thread to the community but it says it's in "read only mode" ?

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wut

scenic radish
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Seems to happen every night around 21:30 Central time (US)

last dirge
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you's a big fine forum won't you back that thang up

scenic radish
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T H I C C

normal ferry
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it's back now - thanks! probably scheduled backup as you mentioned

clear ferry
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@scenic radish memorized for years? How often do your cards renew? We have three years

steel urchin
clear ferry
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Eager zeroing?

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Just lazy zero, then allocate as you go StepOnMe

steel urchin
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it's doing whatever qemu does to allocate

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virtualbox allocated all 300gb in like 30s

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i'm a bit afraid of underallocating and runtime suffers

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but... wow this is ridiculously slow

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ugh.. fuck it.. this is an expermient, i'm going with raw format

clear ferry
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Virtualbox definitely does lazy zero then

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Or thin provisioning

analog copper
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anyone got any recommendations for cheap-ish smart lights?

steel urchin
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i shouldn't have cancelled that.... the raw volume format is goign slower :S

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but the runtime is supposed to be significantly faster

thick dragon
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Depends what you want them for @analog copper . If you just want white/warm white, any cheap tuya-based ones will work. The cheap ones are terrible at colour reproduction however.

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I just ended up biting the bullet and going full Hue. Quality of those is great, and if you can wait until sale periods, they're often half price or less.

analog copper
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Gotcha thanks

clear ferry
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@analog copper I love tradfri for the price to feature

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But hue is the superior bulb

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Yeelight is also good

thick dragon
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There's definitely some Hue stuff that is quite dated/overpriced now. I would stay away from LED strips from Hue. But their normal colour and warm white bulbs are quite good. Tradfri stuff can apparently be added to your Hue network pretty easily too.

clear ferry
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Gledopto is also a good competition, I'm considering buying some of their rgbw for my outdoor lights

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Lifx is supposedly good, haven't tried them, but they are as pricey as hue

thick dragon
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I had a bunch of Gledopto strips on order from Aliexpress, but had to cancel my order because I realised they weren't certified for use in AU.

clear ferry
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Au, doesn't certify anything togaSMILE

thick dragon
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You can import whatever you want, but you run your own risk then.

clear ferry
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Au doesn't want tourists, food, electronics, just the Barbiethinking_smirk

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I'm probably glad I've only had a connecting flight there

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😛

thick dragon
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Used to be a good place to live. Not so much anymore. Government is trying too hard to be USA.

clear ferry
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So, I might have a problem

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I built a wemos+2812 powered Santa hat for today's Christmas party

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I have zero days of tinkering sobriety

hushed basalt
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U S A!
U! S! A!

clear ferry
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Now do the same for 🇦🇺

hushed basalt
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Poverty! Obseity! Surveillance!

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Health insurance!

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Student debts!

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Corruption!

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Union busting!

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Casual workforce!

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Private schools!

clear ferry
clear ferry
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I should probably take a picture of my christmas party outfit

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complete with wled hat

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🤔

surreal sandal
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I have Hue for all my lights, and cheap Xaomi motion sensors hooked up to a smartthings hub, with everything managed in HA. I want to get rid of the SmartThings hub.

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I could buy hue motion sensors, but they are so expensive!

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Or do I try and hook the Xaomis to HA on a different way? Is there a good generic hub I can use that is all local, or maybe a zigbee USB stick that's not a nightmare to use?

clever mortar
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#zigbee-archived has the answers you're looking for - in the channel topic @surreal sandal

clear ferry
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I love *nix sometimes

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Cleaning up leftover child processes.

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brutal, but fair

clever mortar
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Almost as good as reaping zombies...

clear ferry
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woot

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I have never seen that

clever mortar
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lp0 on fire

clear ferry
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I also read it not as reaping...

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lp0 on fire I have seen irl 🤣

clever mortar
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I have seen a line printer on actual fire too...

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That was crappy maintenance though

clear ferry
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but you are a vampire 👴

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Reaping the streets of old Landan Tawn in 1855

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looking for lp0 on fire

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🖨️

clever mortar
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Nah, I didn't get there until 1888 😉

clear ferry
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no proper guides to install motioneye in a freebsd jail

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guess I have to wing it

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🤔

clever mortar
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What, no pkg command for that?

clear ferry
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if it takes into account all dependencies 🤣

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kids these days will never know the pain of not having a proper package manager

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I remember when I ran slackware for years, oh lawd have mercy

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Guess I'll thread it up and see what happens

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will be my first 11.3 jail, let's see

clear ferry
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shit

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it works

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I must have pissed off Crom

hushed basalt
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I'm glad we aren't going to have two boys

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My nephews are nightmares

clear ferry
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Imagine expecting a single child and getting triplets

hushed basalt
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Or your second and final child

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Then getting triplets

scenic radish
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Might be every five years, can't remember. I was close to it expiring though

honest geode
hushed basalt
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I'll cut you

clear ferry
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@honest geode but, that isn't too fast 😛

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I downloaded on those speeds back in 2002 at a Lan party I hosted

boreal pewter
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lol u did lans when you already were 50+ ?

clear ferry
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I unfortunately only have 500/500 at home though, I could upgrade to 1000/1000 and take a screenshot and downgrade though ThinkEyes

honest geode
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Yea, I've had 1 GBit/s connection for the past 10 years, but now more and more residential areas are getting those speeds as well

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Currently paying just under 40 USD per month for this connection, so it isn't expensive

clear ferry
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That is fair

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I would have to pay $110 for it

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But is yours synchronous?

honest geode
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It's not symmetrical, if that's what you're asking 🙂 it's 1000/100, but if I change ISP i can get 1000/1000 but for an additional 20 USD/month

clear ferry
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that still ain't bad

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metered or not ? I hear murican still have metered connections 🤣

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we stopped with that in 2000

boreal pewter
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Yeah they once discussed here and one provider wanted to make a 200GB limit

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Then I never heard of it again

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Would be nice to be able to download 1 game and watch 1 movie and 200GB are gone 🤣

clear ferry
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Remember downloading a game on the PS4 last year

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it was 56GB 🤣

boreal pewter
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RDR2 is 108GB

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Any good 4k movie 60-80GB

clear ferry
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Last I checked a 1080p from netflix was 500MB per hour or something

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I think..

boreal pewter
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lol transcoded shit

clear ferry
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don't talk about your mom like that

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🤣

honest geode
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@clear ferry Of course it's not metered. Only murica is that stupid. I've never had a metered connection.