#the-water-cooler
1 messages · Page 404 of 1
love me some sketchup
helps lay things out and get an idea for space
and something i'm wanting to make int he coming weeks
undermounted adjustable t-track shelf
heh well that's what will be on there at first
and on the other side of the desk another one for my 24port switch, xlr mixer, and if i can squeeze it in the optiplex 9020 sff
I really need to measure up the place properly.
If only to get a shiny graphic thingy in HA 😄
yea at some point i would like to get this into HA use the HA Floor Plan
a lot of boxes in that layout
rooms, cabinets, and psuedo furniture 😛
i have pictures of the framing and electrical and might build an alt version showing the paths of everything
If you want them totally secure, just plug them out 😉
because of forbidden topic about half of the clients on my network are restricted to LAN only lol
Just Quad NAT for max security. rollsafe
Pushed my Secret Santa gift documentation to Github.
https://github.com/NobleKangaroo/iot-santa
Maybe someone else can gain something from it. ❤️
hey @tidal bronze you got any blogs or whatnot about your DC system?
you mean whole house 24v?
quad NAT, goodness lol
Whole House 24v 
I've got some oddities in the attic wherein there's ~65V between line and ground and ~55V between neutral and ground. Tying both line and neutral together and checking voltage in reference to ground I get 120V. So there's something odd for sure. Unfortunately the attic is of course two stories above the circuit breaker, so outside of breaking into the walls all the way between the two there's no good way to see what's up. Outside of that, the rest of the house is solid and even has a neutral line at all receptacles and switches
Speaking of natting and the such... personally I've got about 11 VLANs for all my devices. That's always fun to manage. pfSense is amazing.
tying both line and neutral together 😱
yeah they're actually in phase with each other so i'm not sure what the heck is the deal.
no like... that creates a short circuit lol
if they were out of phase, that'd be different and i'd not have done that
to be honest i'm wondering if there already is.
like, why else would there be voltage on my neutral line
you sure they're actually line and neutral?
it should be 0V reference to ground
that would should trip your breaker immediately
well there's the copper, and black and white.
i'm pretty sure.
i could trace it out.
and/or destroy something lol
That's ghost voltage
haha yeah. to be fair i'm somewhat comfortable with electricity - installing circuits and chopping live wire to add receptacles. i'm super cautious. but yeah idk about that.
also here's a funny (scary) read on someone who tied line and neutral together after removing an appliance: https://diy.stackexchange.com/questions/100511/why-dont-you-connect-unused-hot-and-neutral-wires-to-complete-the-circuit
@fallow galleon I wondered the same thing, but the fact that it didn't pop the breaker piqued my curiosity...
and lol @ that post
same reason you don't do that in a DC circuit 🙂
at least some resistance
heck my 12V sealed lead acid battery can spot weld my screwdriver..
that's possible.
attic has ... less than great wiring. i'm working on replacing a lot.
this is my favorite part of that entire thread i linked above:
Every unused outlet in the house is an "incomplete circuit". Presumably you don't install jumper wires across each outlet every time you unplug something, right?
i noticed it when installing a transformer for a doorbell, did my due diligence and checked if the wire was hot and it read ~65V reference to ground. but idk.
@last dirge you mean a shower @peak cloud 🙂
the circuit basically goes from breaker, through the walls, to a light (that was on at the time), and to a fan in the attic (that was off) and then back to the circuit breaker. I tapped off of the midpoint between the light and fan and added the transformer and a junction box and a plug but i tested that before making any changes. anywho, i'm leaving it as is for now but something i'll keep in the back of my head.
he got a bit excited
ran it along with cat5 best thing ever did
It's a shame they didn't think of CAT5 back in the 50s when my house was built 😄
You can always run cat5
@brave panther Not sure if it's been mentioned, but wanted to go ahead and give my 2 cents on a possible way to find the problem. Can you shut all breakers off and test the circuits of each zone one at a time?
Thanks dale, I may do that one day but for now I am not going to goof with it
It's probably just ghost voltage or open ground.
Like you, I am comfortable with electrical, but I am no pro. I know just enough to wire up stuff the right way. 😂
I had that measurement in the attic as well. In fact just last month.
long story short, the existing wire doesn't have ground so I have the ground wire from the bathroom fan just hanging. when I measure between ground and neutral, it's ~60v
The first time I realized that ground/earth is tied to neutral at the panel blew my mind. I was so confused.
I thought something was leaking at first. Took me almost an hour to find out
@tidal bronze Have you tried any of the new 100W PoE stuff yet?
Not yet
Lol Afya. Yeah a lot of people think it's some magical special protection line but in reality, for all intents and purposes, ground and neutral are the same and ground is just a backup pathway in case neutral gets severed.
they literally go into the same grounding bar in the breaker box.
Another thing that a lot of folks don't realize is that in a DC circuit, electrons actually flow from negative to positive. it's almost like they're being "sucked" towards the positive lead.
thank Ben Franklin for the "positive" and "negative" conventions. 🙂
The ground and neutral are tied together so earth faults work correctly
@hushed basalt yeah but they're only supposed to be tied together in one place
Imagine you have a refrigerator, and it has active and neutral connected to the motor circuit, and earth is tied to the chassis.
The active wire insulation in the fridge breaks down, and comes in contact with the chassis of the fridge.
The active conductor rushes through the earth wiring and trips the RCD, or potentially the circuit breaker if the RCD doesn't go off first.
Now say earth and neutral aren't tied. The active connector comes in contact with the fridge chassis. The fridge chassis is now active, but nothing happens. Because there's no circuit
yup so in the event your device somehow cuts the cord and bridges line to ground, the resistive load is no longer present and that should trip the breaker. or start a fire from all the heat...
You go about your business, years go by with a hot fridge 🥁
And then your toasters neutral connector breaks down
then you step on the basement ground barefoot and open the fridge and get a tingling in your foot...
You pop the toaster at the same time as opening the fridge door
And your heart is now the new load
And ain't no RCD going to save you
i had the issue at my old place where my computer chassis would shock me with 60V in the basement if i walked around barefoot and touched it with th eback of my hand. never could find the cause.
I think that's part of SMPSs
A floating potential sent to earth, but no current behind it
My xbox 360 power supply did the same thing
another fun feature of the 360 power supply is that you could unplug it and the LED stays lit for like 2 minutes
residual powaaaaaa
caps take time to drain and LEDs are low load
t = R x C
And it's not like the C64 where the LED is an integral part of the power circuit...
High resistance (no load) x capacitance = lotsa time
That probably would have been a filament lol
Yeah, probably...
does Carlos still hang around here?
I'd ask Hassbot if he's been seen
but I don't know how
or if it still does that
He's not been around for a while now
Public Sighting! 🙂 @last dirge
Do you get all the twitter notifications when your code you wrote fo me ages ago senses a rocket launch?
It 100% works!
cool
that's probably the single most complicated templating I've ever done
so I guess it went off a few days ago?
It did.. I was just scrolling my tweet timeline to see if I could find the announcement. 🙂
@brave panther That's a pretty awesome Secret Santa gift! Nice work on the user manual for it 🙂
I really enjoyed putting it together too
Rocket launch notifications? That sounds sweet!
@brave panther I might have to fork it and give the same three devices as a gift for someone's birthday next year.
Nice! Perhaps get some official FTDI if you can afford it, but I've not had issues so it might not be as important.
@peak cloud I wrote something that scraped some API for launches and sends a "you should go outside, there's a launch soon" TTS
I might still have a couple of FTDI adapters lying around back from my RC days, but I wouldn't want to gift them.
@last dirge That's awesome!
pretty convoluted 🙂
@last dirge 😛
{%- for launch in value_json.launches if launch.location.id in [16, 17] %}
@peak cloud I almost always buy multiple and keep a few spare for things like those, so dollar cost averaging my entire gift I'm probably only gifting like $15 if the $20 limit 😁
@last dirge I was providing an alternative way to use for loops combined with if.
This year I bought a couple Wyze cams, an Echo Flex (and a motion sensor for it), and a few other techy gifts to give as Secret Santa or gift exchanges.
Wyze4Lyfe
It's not particularly the best quality image, but at the price, you can't beat it.
How dare you @unreal orbit!!!!!!!!!!
I found a deal that's 8 4K PoE cams and a NVR for $800
Wow, that's intense, but I bet it'd be amazing to have. I miss my Hikvisions.
and I've already got a PoE CCTV setup so it'd just be swapping cameras
Low pricetag = paying for it through other means 😉
I'm just currently using 4MP cameras
those reolink cameras keep going down. $33.83 each for the 5mp bullet (after 20% coupon) and $38.24 for the 5mp dome (after 15% coupon)
Amazon that is. I already own 6, all I need, else I'd get more ;)
コンセントを開けるとそこには…!?
僕の部屋には小さな友達が住んでいる。
こびとシリーズ第3弾。
「こびとの秘密基地」
全て手作りのミニチュア作品です。
制作期間は約4ヶ月。
メイキングはコ...
61723
214673
dude, that's awesome
where can i ask about mqtt discovery?
i'm of no authority, but i see people talking about it in #diy-archived frequently
thanks
Anyone integrated Pentair Mastertemp with HA using the 3 wire method?
Home assistant is off topic here 😉
@tidal bronze i have an ESP8266 controlling my Pentair Heater, Pump, Vlaves, and Light
That's awesome. I have pump lights etc all dialed in trying to do the heater without using intellitouch.
Heya
@tidal bronze that's awesome, are you pulling that all through and intellitouch? mines all relay controlled to avoid buying a intellitouch or similar
Nopes. Goal is to do everything intellitouch does without using intellitouch. 🙂 Running a wiifi pi3 b+ and using nodejs pool controller. If you have VF/VS pump you can bypass and talk RS485 direct to the pump and get all the data.
Simply brilliant https://github.com/tagyoureit/nodejs-poolController
@tidal bronze i have seen that before a while back. i will have to give it another look, i got a pi 3 sitting around. but that would be nice to free up three of my relays for other stuff and control/ read data back from the pump...
It's pretty simple to setup can get the interface cable for around $10 on ebay if not $69 and usb to rs485 is about $6.99 🙂
Was a bit of a task to setup the initial rest sensors can share the config once you have the interface going.
@tidal bronze that would be much appreciated - code / programming is not my forte.
the bash script curl -k --silent "http://192.168.2.162:3000/pump" | jq -r '.pump."1".currentrunning.value'
You should be all set 🙂
Thank you! im excited to give it a try. Have you had any luck pulling your flow rate?
Didn't look into it yet. Adding z-wave temp sensors tonight. Using Fibaro FGK-10x + DS18B20
nice, i have some onewire sensors iv been meaning to put in and feed back to the ESP. need to 3d print some brackets though
Going to add the sensors in side chlorine dispensers : -)
Urgh terrible building standards here
It's 9am and without aircon on my interior is 5 degrees hotter than exterior
It's almost as if our houses are designed to gain heat in summer and loose it in winter on purpose
@hushed basalt One of my team has moved from Ireland to San Fran for a few years with family. He's still in shock at how badly insulated the houses are there. He's paying over 3k a month for a house in the Bay Area. If it's hot out side, the Aircon is fairly handy, if it's cold out, you're sort of screwed.
All this talk about carbon and electricity prices. And no one ever addresses the elephant in the room.
But if people were more aware of how terrible standards are, developers would get lower ROI, and guess who are major political donors ;)
Also demand for coal and gas and oil would be lower if people didn't use so much energy to heat and cool.
Speaking of, I just bought my first smart thermostat!
doesn't help that americans keep their houses at dumb temps
Like, literally minutes ago, through my gas company (they have a special rebate program right now)
there's no reason to keep a house at 68F in the summer
Right? Needs to be 65F
You mean like 67
Here's a photo of our PM unironically brandishing a piece of coal in parliment.
relative temps are a thing
is MURIKAN, has stupid temps set
I generally like cooler temps though
I guess 67 in the summer is not a dumb temp since dumb starts at 68
Your freedom units are confusing as hell
Temperature is only one part of comfort
Humidity, radiant heat from thermal masses, air flow are all huge factors
73 during the day in the summer, 71 at night, 80 when away; 68 during the day in the winter, 65 at night, 66 when away. Good/bad? @wet pilot
Don't forget cosmic alignment
68F inside 95+ outside coupled with poor insulation == aircon that doesn't turn off
Yeah dew point has a big impact on comfort
67 always for me
I hope that's F @tidal bronze
You could have two houses with identical temperature, but one has lower humidity
we do 78F in the summer, 74 winter (72 night)
Yes @daring inlet
And people would go "wow this house is so much cooler"
yeah, baby. we can't keep her with covers on right now :/
Ah
I personally radiate heat so I need to be sub-70s to be comfortable
Get a sleeping bag
I also am a furnace
@daring inlet do you have humidity sensors
I'd be curious to know the relative humidity
Not yet but I just ordered an ecobee so I will!
I have a whole house humidifier to hook up to that as well (if I can)
That's alright
I would say you need a dehumidifier
But without the right air tightness in your house it's wasted effort
Dehumidifier? Nah it gets pretty dang dry sometimes here
Oddly enough I can't get the dew point low enough in my place during the winter.
@wet pilot you have an ecobee?
It's 50% in my house atm
i do
Usually 40-60%
What version?
@hushed basalt at what temp?
4
Ahh ok. I just bought the "new" version (4v2/5/whatever it's called)
I wonder if the remote sensors are improved at all
allegedly they have
16.5 C dew point. Pretty high for the winter but I'm guessing it's hot where you're at
better sensing range at least
Cool
This is my first real "smart" product so far
Or rather home automation product anyway
I have smartphones and smart TVs and such lol
Several other things I intend to get are: switches/dimmers, door locks, garage door thing(?), Not sure what else really
y'all don't really do central air there right?
As everyone has proprietary controllers for their HVAC. Not simple on/off
Yeah
People don't have boilers either
Ducted air con is pretty common though
unless you go far to the south, winters don't get too terrible there
Even far south I don't think it's too bad. Certainly not Norwat levels
It only snows in mountains in the south
For americans and europeans with ducted air conditioners
Do you have return ducts for every supply duct, or just like a common return duct in the hallway?
my house has 3 returns
One return for me 😬
one on each floor + and extra in the mbr
1100 sq ft condo (102 sq m)
2300 sqft house
213.677 sqm
2x 20"x20" and 1x 14"x14" returns in this place
11 rooms with registers
(some with multiple)
One 12" x 24" return. 7 conditioned rooms, one supply each
I'm...not convinced that's enough return area but it doesn't seem to cause issues
someone mathed it out at one point. its probably the bare minimum 😛
Every system I've ever seen in Australia only has one return vent per system
It's super dumb though because your aircon doesn't work properly when your doors are shut
Yup
yup
You can install a jump duct tho
Renting :/
If I close the baby's room the room gets super cold/hot
But if I open the door light and noise gets in
i've seen some trick strike-plates have have a 2nd hole to partially close a door but keep it latched
Plus from a pressure point of view, the supply air would just get pushed out the windows and ceiling leaks
that's the main issue
Which means outdoor air gets sucked into the return area
unless you get a variable speed blower the back-pressure isn't good for it either
Indeed
I'm a big fan of splits myself
Solves all those issues.
Bulkhead cartridges can look pretty schmick too if they're done right
Plus you don't need to run a whole house to cool one master bedroom at night
Have you ever come across heat recovery ventilators @wet pilot
See, the problem with that around here is that the temps outside can fluctuate extremely wildly, and to heat up a house or cool one down after it's not been temperature controlled often takes more energy than simply leaving it as being temp controlled
It's complicated
You may be fine in one room for a number of hours but trying to heat up another one when you move costs too much to do often (even daily)
If you put some power meters on your circuits you could find out imperically
If you generally have moderate climate and consistency though I can see that being possible. Often in spring and fall months I keep the heater off completely
That's true. I'm tempted to do that (I've been slowly rewiring the house anyway due to old wiring and adding new AFCIs)
@hushed basalt I know that wasn't directed at me but I wish I had an HRV
Yup. I think it's decent at my place (casement windows, good weatherstripping on exterior doors) but I've never had a blower door test done
Would be very curious
I'd say if it wasn't built and designed for air tightness it'd probably be way too loose
now when you say 11 rooms, do you mean rooms?
this new house we're in has returns in every room, which is awesome
aaaand i realized i'm scrolled up
You should look into them
They're kind of like a radiator. But instead of heat transfer of air/fluid. They're air/air.
And with high quality filters on the incoming supply, and an airtight house. They give you a super clean house environment.
nice. Low quality builder of this house though so airtight is never going to happen
@hushed basalt in some cases they also allow for "passive cooling" when the air outside is significantly lower than the inside (and is also dry)
Air handler runs and some of the air comes from the ventilator
Yeah summer bypass
Super useful here
It was 15 degrees cooler outside last night than indoors
i'll usually crack open some windows if the humidity isn't terrible
(which it usually is)
Windows are such a pita haha
Have to get the key, open the blinds, unlock the window, unwind, lock in place, lower blinds,
Repeat 4 or 5 times.
Put key back.
Then do it all again when it's time to close the windows
the new windows we just put in have triangle tabs in the top sashes that can stop the window partially open. this way they can be open and not be that much less secure than windows usually are
Ah that's handy
I guess you still have the air pollution problem though
And the lack of automation
eh, suburbia, not too terrible here. humidity is our only problem
I did the math, and ignoring the air pollution, window winders and such would cost way more than just more solar, better windows, better insulation etc
To counter act the loss of "free" cross ventilation
wait. key? for a window?
have to keep the drop bears out
goodness
/s if you couldn't guess 😛
i worked APAC hours for a while and almost moved to AUS so i picked up a few things
Gotta watch out for those drop bears
You know, speaking of securing against drop bears, I'd like to find some smart locks or strikes that can integrate into a smart home environment, but everything off the shelf seems to be battery powered
or not exactly home-friendly
eh, the consumer industry disagrees. its much easier to add something that doesn't require running wires
I prefer human-powered deadbolts
but you could probably retro a commercial strike-plate system and hook it up to an esp or something
Something something electronic strike
what a lucky strike
and yeah I was looking at strike plates but I don't care much for them (and on the doors I'd use them on, there are wooden frames)
so that would kind of be annoying
that's the other issue
I like the look of kwikset's Kevo deadbolts, but... yeah, batteries
I'm tired of constantly changing/charging batteries in things heh
the nina, the pinta, the santa maria 🎵
@daring inlet Kwikset makes bumpable locks though
gotta factor that in
oh yeah, i don't want that. I'm just saying I like the look of it
buy a lock that's a lock first, then smart
that means I need new locks now 😂
🙂
Or get that August thing that replaces the inside deadbolt switch
Well, then you can use any good lock
if you're in the US and don't have weird euro door locks and you need to re-key more than one lock look on Amazon
you can buy rekey kits for most manufacturers that'll do up to 10 locks and they come with keys
but keys inherently are flawed, no?
I mean, it's residential
that doesn't mean I don't have stuff worth keeping from being stolen
of course not. windows are easily broken looks into bulletproof glass
that's my front door
doesn't matter what lock I put there TBH
it's surrounded by glass
still put a Schlage in
and those are... good? 🤔
Schlage are generally well regarded
Schlage makes some of the best residential locks available
call some locksmiths around you
see what they'd recommend
(I know next to nothing about locks really, just that key ones can often be picked/bumped, and that I want something "smart" but secure lol)
fair enough
We don't really use our front door here so I haven't bothered with adding smart locks
I got it for my dog sitter
Makes sense
or friends that may need to grab something from the house
Eh, garage has a keypad and the garage door is hooked up to zwave
I can let someone in remotely that way as needed
I'd want one for my side door mainly... I'm often bringing work bags in and out and keys are annoying
also I tend to forget my keys sometimes inside and lock myself out
(twice in 3 years so far...)
Lol
I never forget my phone though heh
We leave the door to the garage unlocked
that's the way to do it
And we're apparently weird and actually park our car in the garage 😛
what kind of psycho parks in the garage?
I thought garages were for you to store a bunch of junk you never need or touch
😂
Lol
@daring inlet keys for windows is pretty standard here
and when I'm not working on projects that take up the other side of the garage, the Volt takes that spot
the Tesla lives outside
Lol that's funny
blinks rapidly a volt AND a tesla
😳
talk about monies
heh
serious talk though: what kind of power uh... things... do you have to have for an electric or hybrid anyway?
I'm holding out for VW's more sedan-like electric options they're working on
I've got 2 50A 220V circuits run to the garage for the chargers
So I has a home assistant question, I'm big on watching YouTube vids for advice and getting to know stuff, is there a content provider for home assistant and hardware and such that's like thee go to? I got into unraid and Spaceinvader one is like a godsend for that kinda stuff, was just curious if there's someone similar
surprised you haven't made some kind of DIY inductive chargers for your cars haha
Solar panel roof haha
inductive charging is SUPER inefficient
but "ugh I have to plug it in again???"
@errant steeple nope
Ahhh bummer, was hoping to find someone worth binge watching while at work lol
Thanks for the response
you could look at Carlo's stuff https://youtube.com/vCloudInfo
Ben @cunning garnet is rebooting his channel
I have a gti myself, too poor for them.electrics haha
there's also that one bald dude that does ESPHome videos; I can't remember his name
I feel like I watched a video or two of this Carlos you linked
@errant steeple depending on which GTI, the Model 3 isn't much more
18 se, I got it for a heck of a deal cuz it sat on the lot for about a year lol
how optioned?
6 speed no one wanted manual in my area apparently
still pretty close in price 🙂
SE trim, manual, moon roof, large navigation screen Clarke plaid seats (I don't like leather) also threw in the VW care plan for the entirety of my loan, 0.9%
For about 25k
Yes that's the wolfesburg
not really giving up much though
Only thing WB has that I WISH I had was the adaptive cruise control lol
I looked at those too, when I sat in and drove the gti though... I was in love.
Was wanting an RS3 but $$$
sold it because i wasn't driving it enough. Also the value started jumping because ford killed it in the US
hahaha
If Audi made manuals.... I would have sold a kidney or something to make it happen
i was hoping they'd do a Golf R400
I was going to buy a Focus RS and while I was still mulling it over I got an email from Tesla saying I could order my model 3 🙂
Ohhhh ya that'd be neat
drop the RS3 drivetrain in a Golf R -> Sold
would still prefer a manual but at least i'd get the hatch out of it
and probably a 5-10k discount on the rs3 😛
DSG is a weirdo transmission
Oh ya golf r platform.... We're really dreaming lol
no transmission gang
😎
#singlespeedlife
Oof
Lol so I bought a pi4 2gb at microcenter the other day...
and got a 201 mile rating LOL
apparently because the EPA de-rates their values to 70% of max
the euro cycle has it a lot higher
@errant steeple it means you should send me a zerow
there's one in my car
Like... Chilling? Or in use haha
Oh neat! In the Tesla?
and when it jumps on my wifi network, it backs up any saved recordings to my NAS automagically
Oh cool! Do you use it to upload to a server when u get home or something?
Oh nice!
I was debating something like that when I eventually put my dash cam in
also, the car sometimes corrupts the USB drive
when the zerow boots, it checks that partition and runs fsck on it to fix it
then mounts it to the car
some genius wrote the software I'm using
Gotta love them geniuses
Lol I just found out about hass.io like... A few days ago
Neat hearing all the different stuff people implement
With Pi's and whatnot
the rabbit hole is deep
indeed
wait until you find ESPs
Luckily my wallet is non-existent in the money department so I been dreaming
get your money up, son
But I've discovered I have random stuff that may be able to be implemented so that's kinda cool
What's esps?
kinda
Something else to add to the list of stuff to look up I reckon lol
So far I have a wyze bulb, 2 wyze plugs, a wyze cam, wifi connected garage door opener, and a schlage connect deadbolt and a plethora of pi zeros and a pi4 2gb lol
I think the lutron dimmable switch in the baby's room may be capable? But not sure
Ya I saw something about that conbee ii USB ?
dresden elektronik ConBee II The Universal Zigbee USB Gateway https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PZ7ZHG5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_UwV-DbMV6ZQM8
This thing I think?
conbee is zigbee not zwave
Oof
More homework
Alright welp I'm off to bed, got the little one to sleep finally
ah, that's why you're broke
I'm glad we haven't had to use formula
Daycare will be a killer though
My sister spent $40k a year on daycare at the peak
I bought all formula in Sweden
1/3 of the price of Norway
Daycare is $300 per month, with all meals included here
5 days a week, 8 hours every day
State subsidised?
Not sure
That is just the price
It probably is
The state also pays allowance to single parents so that they have have kids in daycare
Twinkly 250 gen2 on sale for $90
I'm getting one
They usually retail for $120 here
Yeah barbie dollars
We get the Australia tax plus the conversion rate
That's one of the cheaper listings too
Steam publishers often charge an extra 30% USD for Australian customers. Just because.
DyNamIc PriCiNg

Bloody Norwatians

@shy laurel , I can’t find the pi-hole test site. You may have to clear your browser history though
yeah it has been removed I think @green inlet
I found the url to it, but it doesn't exist anymore
I think the ad I'm referring to isn't blocked because it's hosted by the site itself
the source is cdn1.spiegel.de/images/bla
so I think pi-hole just can't block it
chances are trying to block that ad would block a ton of images on that CDN
Hello - brand new to Discord and this channel. HA new user. Running Hass.IO as a VM in Virtualbox on MacOS Mojave. Up and running with MQTT auto-discovery working. Having JSON payload problems to trigger Valetudo zone cleaning. What channel is the best place to ask my questions? (Have read the forum rules, HA FAQ, MQTT docs, watched hours of Youtube vids on Node-Red scripting - but generally a JSON newb.)
#330944238910963714 most likely
There is soo much wrong
Vbox runs slow vs VMware, and don’t even think about the half assed parallels
yeah i have no knowledge about VMs other than knowing what they are
"Apple, Google and Amazon are teaming up to develop an open-source smart home standard"
Saw that, VERY cool
yeah... we'll see lol
I'd like to see this actually mean being able to run google assistant on alexa devices and vice versa, but it will never happen
Reminds me of the video codec standard on XKCD though.
better, being able to run open source assistants on their hardware
@brisk glen - Open to trying a different VM. Just using the tools I know (and I use Parallels for work - didn't even try to go there.) But are you saying that VBox is my problem or just a VM preference? 😉
Yeah it's a hog. Takes about 5 min for Hass.io to come up fully on an 2011 Mac-mini dual core.
@peak cloud
https://i.imgur.com/66wmdR9g.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/1PYoVHRg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/btx1Dasg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gEwMf2ig.jpg
https://github.com/NobleKangaroo/iot-santa
that's pretty cool
That's nice that you include docs
...that will likely go unread 😢
Hehe. Hope not! I spent a lot of time cleaning things up and making it very easy to use.
But if so, that's fine - always another recipient! dale3h said he might have to steal it for birthday gift. It's not a bad "starter kit" for someone who is interested in, but mildly intimidated by, IoT
And if you get things from BangGood or AliExpress you can get all of what I included (ESP8266, Sonoff Basic R2, USB/TTL adapter, breadboard, and a two-prong extension cord) for under $20 total
I got the extension cord from Family Dollar last night on the way home, $1.75 plus tax
not bad for a cord with three outlets that have swiveling covers to guard them!
1/ The Phoenix Project #ebook is free today (Dec 19) on @amazon & other bookseller sites.
If there’s someone you think should read it, now’s your chance. Retweet + tag your friends, colleagues, bosses.
Link: https://t.co/bOsooqMOw6
(A Thread) @RealGeneKim @kevinb...
846
613
Damn good book.
family baller
are companies as shitty and greedy in other countries outside of the US?
like... i try to cancel my internet, and they apparently slipped into the bill (that i get digitally with zero notification about said bill because it's on auto-pay) that things are monthly subscription... I cancelled on the FIRST day of my billing cycle, and now they're making me pay or all services for a month, PLUS charging me for the equipment that i NEVER used "until i return it" (had purchased my own)
as far as i'm concerned, that should be illegal
i mean, it's only $300 out of pocket, but for some people that's the difference between sleeping under a bridge and a roof
They're not prorating? That's dumb
sounds like comcast
Might as well wait to switch
spectrum, so basically yeah
could probably have a FTC claim
well i already cancelled, and now have gigabit fiber at the new house
yeah i did file an FCC claim
and i'm in the process of accessing the regional manager for spectrum
well, i started with FTC, and they said billing wasn't a concern of theirs, try the FCC, which DID have a way to file for billing
ftc is more concerned with phishing scams and identity theft these days
remind me which is corrupted?
they're both a hot mess
lol
fuck this administration
^
easy on the politics 😉 (though I know many of us agree with that sentiment)
is terrible as it sounds, i really want a designated survivor event to happen at this point
wipe out all politicians and start over
oh i'd be dead in a purge event
brb building a bunker
then later i can say: "I'll be in my bunk" (firefly anyone?)
without actually getting into real politics, i've always joked that our next president needs to be a homeless person... Either that'll really showcase how stupid our country is on an individual level, or the person may actually make an insane change that benefits lower-class
it'd be interesting to see something radical happen
without death and devastation involved
we need 2 week election cycles max and a campaign finance cap at 100k
1k should be enough... build a website, the end... done...
you gotta pay a few peeps and polls aren't cheap
submit it to a central platform for me as a "consumer" to browse, find matches, etc
fuck polls
might have to rent at least one venue
polls are so 1800
we have more people contributing to voting for American Idol than we do for presidency, and with far more accuracy and validity
lol
compulsive voting would change a bunch of things
and ranked ballots
[3] candidate 1
[2] candidate 2
[1] candidate 3
[4] candidate 4
easy algorithm to run up to 3 elections until one candidate has the majority of votes
plot twist, the people ARE the plague!
I don't know if it can be considered a twist when we knew that already
haha
i gotta say, i havne't even installed HA yet, been here for ~2 weeks, and you lot are alright
we have our moments
sometimes several in one day
hi
trying to get hass.io pared down so that it's not so chatty on my network - how do I completely prevent homeassistant.components.tradfri and homeassistant.components.sonos from loading?
#330944238910963714 ... also, don't add those integrations? not sure what you mean
sorry i asked in the wrong channel - new to discord
D'oh! I just spent half an hour building a time left sensor for a timer, before remembering that I won't be able to have it update every second. Time to rewrite it in Javascript in a button card.
You can't just use a HA timer?
It is the HA timer, but the problem is that only the entities card will show the actual countdown.
And I want to use a button card, as it's a lot more flexible.
And I'd be able to tap the entire card, instead of just the icon.
custom:button-card already shows timer duration in real time
Nope, it used to, but the functionality was broken some versions ago.
it's working right now 🤷
Not here, all I'm getting is the icon and the name, no matter the layout.
Unless there's some magic switch to enable it.
And/or maby head over to #frontend-archived / #609399695466430465
💥
LOL, i just submitted a review for my fridge to enter a $2500 contest thing (spam email so it's ok)... wrote a nice writeup, as i'm pleased with the purchase.... hit submit... "Thanks for reviewing your new Dishwasher!" 🤦♀️
@light trout you mentioned how i might have python upgrade woes by using venv for things... except it looks like there's an --upgrade argument that upgrades the python version in the venv... am i misunderstanding something here? https://docs.python.org/3/library/venv.html#creating-virtual-environments
🤷♂️ #449717345808547842 💯 !
it might not span major versions, would require testing
@wet pilot the lady's mom watching her while we're both at work luckily! We also found a girl locally who watches kids for $100 a week which is like half of the price of all the daycares near us
that's pretty awesome
we got lucky and found an in home that's $150/week
which is super cheep considering
So tonight is my favorite bars annual "cellar event" and heres the draft list..
Almost 6 years of sobriety here... RIP lol
@wet pilot that's awesome!! Just her watching your kid/s at your place?! I'd dig that. Specially if you got cams to keep an eye on em whenever lol.
That's a lot of stouts 🤢
nah, we gotta take her somewhere
I think we may switch to the caretaker down the road just for socialization and what not
Ohhhh ok I got ya
she's registered and whatnot so we still get to write off the taxes at least
@unreal orbit yea stouts arent reallly my thing either but ill try them at least. And good thing I'm in walking distance
I enjoy the very occasional stout. Kind of a planets are aligned situation
Lol. Yea too me i think stouts are more approitate for this time of year. I prefer IPAs myself
I was a, whiskey, scotch, bourbon, drinker kinda guy. Wasn't much for beers lol
I don't drink often. My max is usually an IPA or two
There are sjust so many choices now for beer, and sometimes its cheaper than cocktails
You should try Norway, a beer at a bar will cost you $6-$12 depending
A whisky will be $8-$15
actually thehead chef at tthe place went backpacking there eariler this year.
at my place, the draft beer will be anywhere $4.50 to $10, but you can get coors banquet, bud ligt etc for $2.50
Heck a coke will cost you $3-5 at a bar 😛
lol. Here's the p;ace - http://theblackthornpubholly.com/
The pictures are making me hungry
Oh mannnnn no kidding! I haven't eaten yet today...
I wanna see the screwdriver you use for those!!
@unreal orbit @errant steeple yea the food is really good too.
@clear ferry we're actaully working on project now for the trusses for solar panels. they're 26' long and only 4 fit on a truck. the bitch is trying to pain them
i prefer light beers and IPAs myself
never really liked lagers
a little late, i know. feeling like internet explorer/edge rn
@scenic radish just a tad late. I've never liked lagers either
never understood [why people like] the "no one:" meme format
That's because you're not hip to the new lingo, ya dig?
that one is a stretch, but knowyourmeme has your back
Guys I'm really sorry if this is a stupid questions, but how would you start your smart home setup if you had the chance to choose?
I was thinking smarthings hub but that's not available in Italy, do you think mi smart sensor set and mi bulbs would suffice?
rather, i understand the meme format but don't find it funny lol
@languid robin Start with something you would like to automate, then go from there is my advice
Well the first thing would be light bulbs and an alarm triggered by a sensor
The roblem is I realized I can't really get the control I wished for with the mi home app
Specifically blaring the alarm on every echo dot rather than just the hub
Seems you already have the devices
@scenic radish because you aren't funny 
Not really but I don't have much of a choice here in Italy, I was looking for suggestions
@languid robin zigbee2mqtt, openmqttgateway and docker
curious, other than normalizing your protocol what's the advantage of zigbee2mqtt?
@clear ferry one fewer cherry item for you i guess 😛
@@clear ferry At that point the xiaomi hub becomes useless right?
@clear ferry what?
@clear ferry what?
@steel urchin what?
nightmare fuel
Is this actually positive news, seems they opted to go for an open source solution, however what about privacy? to what extend will it be open source? https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2019/12/amazon-apple-google-and-the-zigbee-alliance-to-develop-connectivity-standard/
if you didn't know about /giphy... yw
@clear ferry what?
@clear ferry Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.
My personal opinion on that is the same for Android... It's amazing, but don't be fooled into thinking you're protected or private... There will be forks that remove telemetry and privacy concerns i'm sure
You don't like my Bitmoji @scenic radish ?
@clear ferry my understanding is that zigbee requires a controller, right?
@steel urchin yes, a flashed usb stick
so with that, you're still very dependent on vendors
No
in that, you have a sub-mesh that completely goes bye bye if that transponder dies
i mean, we already have the abstraction of how to interact with messages and events/etc with HA, so normalizing every proprietary protocol with a singular protocol has no added value
@clear ferry i do
anyway, i was wondering what you really gained from zigbee2mqtt with HA involved
i can see writing my own mqtt broker at some point and that becoming a critical path, but in context of HA i feel i'm missing something or .. maybe i'm not?
Well, #zigbee-archived would be a good place to talk about that
fair
But, it's about separating the location of the Zigbee stick from the location of HA
So, run HA in the rack in the basement, run the Zigbee controller in the middle of the house
i see, so mesh's that are too spread can be bridged with mqtt over the wifi
makes sense now! didn't even think in that context
https://www.zwaveoutlet.com/blogs/news/139205383-combat-z-wave-hour-glass-effect-with-vera-wireless-bridge-feature is for Z-Wave, but the same applies for Zigbee
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34497.The_Color_of_Magic @unreal orbit is the "proper" starting point
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12067.Good_Omens if you didn't see the TV series, and even if you did, is worth a read too - not Discworld, but funny as all hell
And, if you enjoy those... https://www.goodreads.com/series/40335-dirk-gently
I have not seen Good Omens yet, but it is on my list
It's exactly what I expected out of the authors
The choice of actors really worked too
The TV series is what I'd call a Hitchhikers adaptation - messed about with the details to make it fit the medium better, but didn't suffer for it
Yeah I was already sold when I saw David Tennant. Plus Heaven V Hell is one of my favorite literary topics
(or just angels and demons)
Well, being Gaiman and Pratchett... it's not so much Heaven vs Hell 😄
Isn't sandman being adapted now too?
Netflix, yeah
The Colour of Magic shows up on Audible until I sign in and then it says it doesn't exist 😡
Wife is a pratchett person, has all the books almost
I've only read good omens
But played all the discworld games
I'm a Stephen king person
Partchett is funny, though towards the end his writing suffers a bit
If she likes Pratchett, try Douglas Adams
i feel like i remember the Something Wicked This Way Comes series was the same... good, but not quite as the book went
Douglas Adams was a genius. Hitchhikers guide novels make me laugh out loud every time I read
I should buy her all the hitchhiker's stuff on Kindle 
‘Buy’
I actually buy books and ebooks 😛
That’s not very cool of you
I'm sure publishers and authors think it is
I buy... quite a lot of books (mostly ebooks, but...)
Oh yeah, Douglas Adams could really use the money ;)
His family could I'm sure
His rich family
🤷 some of us don't like to break laws arbitrarily
Well, he created stuff, why shouldn't he and his family profit from it?
They have
ethical considerations of breaking laws you don't agree with put aside - Lobbyists have done terrible things to the state of copyright extension beyond the original artist's death that have warped the original intent behind copyright laws.
thanks Disney 😛
Fun fact
I have a friend who created a company called copy left
You should tell him/her to update the footer, it's almost 2020...
I figure maybe I should ask in here instead... Has anyone here used GE's "My Touch Smart" line of switches and outlets?
@clear ferry would this be a good start for the setup in your opinion then?
Echo dots, mi light bulbs and xiaomi sensor set
Alternatively I could go with Philips hue for the bulbs or with google home, don't think I have much choice for the sensors though
Hey. I am currently running a hassio instance on a rpi 3, and i am very happy with it. I have recently started looking at getting a nas, either synology or qnap. As far as I can tell, it should be possible to install hassio with docker on either of these. I am wondering if anyone here has any recomendation for either synology or qnap as I find it hard to choose 😛
The synology software is amazing
Anyway, I'll soon be off for the night. My questions still stands, as I plan on purchasing the stuff tomorrow. If anyone could chime in and help a first timer it would be greatly appreciated 😄
Welp my credit card was just used for a fraudulent purchase. My card company's M A S H E E N L U R N I N G detected a weird purchase and notified me
I've had this card number memorized for years dammit
Which one of you shits used my card
ah damn, good point
I posted in #zwave-archived, but it's along the lines of that article about the new Google alliance https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/19/21029661/zwave-open-standard-radios-smart-home-multiple-vendors-silicon-labs
I memorise my card numbers in batman symbology
Then convert with my batman to number rolodex
Check mate mind readers
🦇
@languid robin personally I've thought about it and I would go with regular/dimmable bulbs (unless you need color control or something like that), and smart sockets/switches/outlets. That way replacement is a lot simpler and less pricy when/if one burns out. But that's just my preference. I am pretty new as well and haven't had any experience with those products.
Actually, I wonder... Is there a channel/room for hardware related discussion like purchases and recommendations and such? Or just kind of anywhere relevant?
Here or #general-archived is fine
Fair enough, thanks 🙂
@daring inlet don't underestimate the power of colour tuning
Especially daylight/tungsten
this kid is cracking me up tonight - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2gq4IwIc_s
Get Honey and start saving money today ▸ https://joinhoney.com/reeves
It’s FREE, and it only takes 2 clicks to start saving at stores like Amazon, Newegg, and eBay.
Pretend I'm not completely losing my mind and look at this robot I built. Tomatoes are yucky, cruel jokes ...
@hushed basalt u rite tho
I mean I'd want color control if only for being able to do holiday based lighting (Halloween 4 lyfe yo)
I'm finally one of the cool kids. Just got 1gig up and down at home
Biggest thing I use is colour temperature control
Light temperature you want at 9pm is different to 9am, 2pm and 5pm etc
hehe same @storm summit
Hey, I'm pretty new to HASS, just trying out the CEC scanner. It says to run it, then Check the add-on log output to see the result.. Where do I find this add-on log output?
oh my god, I just scrolled down on the page and found it
facepalm
was searching for like 10 minutes
I'm trying to post a new thread to the community but it says it's in "read only mode" ?
wut
Seems to happen every night around 21:30 Central time (US)
you's a big fine forum won't you back that thang up
T H I C C
it's back now - thanks! probably scheduled backup as you mentioned

@scenic radish memorized for years? How often do your cards renew? We have three years
this isn't taking forever /s
it's doing whatever qemu does to allocate
virtualbox allocated all 300gb in like 30s
heh it's not much further along since OP -
i'm a bit afraid of underallocating and runtime suffers
but... wow this is ridiculously slow
ugh.. fuck it.. this is an expermient, i'm going with raw format
anyone got any recommendations for cheap-ish smart lights?
i shouldn't have cancelled that.... the raw volume format is goign slower :S
but the runtime is supposed to be significantly faster
Depends what you want them for @analog copper . If you just want white/warm white, any cheap tuya-based ones will work. The cheap ones are terrible at colour reproduction however.
I just ended up biting the bullet and going full Hue. Quality of those is great, and if you can wait until sale periods, they're often half price or less.
Gotcha thanks
@analog copper I love tradfri for the price to feature
But hue is the superior bulb
Yeelight is also good
There's definitely some Hue stuff that is quite dated/overpriced now. I would stay away from LED strips from Hue. But their normal colour and warm white bulbs are quite good. Tradfri stuff can apparently be added to your Hue network pretty easily too.
Gledopto is also a good competition, I'm considering buying some of their rgbw for my outdoor lights
Lifx is supposedly good, haven't tried them, but they are as pricey as hue
I had a bunch of Gledopto strips on order from Aliexpress, but had to cancel my order because I realised they weren't certified for use in AU.
Au, doesn't certify anything 
Anything sold in AU needs SAA cert https://www.saaapprovals.com.au/
SAA Approvals provide accreditation that proves the safety of electrical devices.
You can import whatever you want, but you run your own risk then.
Au doesn't want tourists, food, electronics, just the Barbie
I'm probably glad I've only had a connecting flight there
😛
Used to be a good place to live. Not so much anymore. Government is trying too hard to be USA.
So, I might have a problem
I built a wemos+2812 powered Santa hat for today's Christmas party
I have zero days of tinkering sobriety

U S A!
U! S! A!
Now do the same for 🇦🇺
Poverty! Obseity! Surveillance!
Health insurance!
Student debts!
Corruption!
Union busting!
Casual workforce!
Private schools!
AMERICA F*#K YEAH! MUSIC VIDEO from the move "Team America World Police"
Regular & Bummer Versions !!!!!!
Obi-Wan Remembers The Truth: https://youtu.be/hN74bOubUug
"What I told you was true, from a certain point of view"
Song: A Blessing by Max Richter. Known from the show The Leftovers(fantastic show!)
Thank you so much for watching everyone, the response to this video has been incredible. Seriously, from the bottom of my heart, th...
I should probably take a picture of my christmas party outfit
complete with wled hat
🤔
I have Hue for all my lights, and cheap Xaomi motion sensors hooked up to a smartthings hub, with everything managed in HA. I want to get rid of the SmartThings hub.
I could buy hue motion sensors, but they are so expensive!
Or do I try and hook the Xaomis to HA on a different way? Is there a good generic hub I can use that is all local, or maybe a zigbee USB stick that's not a nightmare to use?
#zigbee-archived has the answers you're looking for - in the channel topic @surreal sandal
Almost as good as reaping zombies...
lp0 on fire
I have seen a line printer on actual fire too...
That was crappy maintenance though
but you are a vampire 👴
Reaping the streets of old Landan Tawn in 1855
looking for lp0 on fire
🖨️
Nah, I didn't get there until 1888 😉

no proper guides to install motioneye in a freebsd jail
guess I have to wing it
🤔
What, no pkg command for that?
if it takes into account all dependencies 🤣
kids these days will never know the pain of not having a proper package manager
I remember when I ran slackware for years, oh lawd have mercy
Guess I'll thread it up and see what happens
will be my first 11.3 jail, let's see
Imagine expecting a single child and getting triplets
Might be every five years, can't remember. I was close to it expiring though
Gotta love fast internet 😄
I'll cut you
@honest geode but, that isn't too fast 😛
I downloaded on those speeds back in 2002 at a Lan party I hosted
lol u did lans when you already were 50+ ?
I unfortunately only have 500/500 at home though, I could upgrade to 1000/1000 and take a screenshot and downgrade though 
Yea, I've had 1 GBit/s connection for the past 10 years, but now more and more residential areas are getting those speeds as well
Currently paying just under 40 USD per month for this connection, so it isn't expensive
It's not symmetrical, if that's what you're asking 🙂 it's 1000/100, but if I change ISP i can get 1000/1000 but for an additional 20 USD/month
that still ain't bad
metered or not ? I hear murican still have metered connections 🤣
we stopped with that in 2000
Yeah they once discussed here and one provider wanted to make a 200GB limit
Then I never heard of it again
Would be nice to be able to download 1 game and watch 1 movie and 200GB are gone 🤣
lol transcoded shit
don't talk about your mom like that
🤣
@unreal orbit relevant to your interests : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVmk3-1rxRQ
I made this video from a set of still photographs that I shot out of our hotel window by the harbor in Tromsø, Norway. I shot the photos on the night of July 5, 2014.
As you can see, the sun never sets!
Video clip with music inspired by videos from weather.cs.uit.no
music: http://audiojungle.net/item/paranormal-humanity/2645158
@clear ferry Of course it's not metered. Only murica is that stupid. I've never had a metered connection.
