#the-water-cooler | Home Assistant | Page 392

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 8:41 PM

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i already know mine would be american idiot

wet pilot Nov 6, 2019, 8:41 PM

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rofl

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 8:41 PM

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Just general ones, but your nick reminded me about the song in the back of my mind

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I already know you love muse @scenic radish

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 8:41 PM

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i do indeed

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 8:41 PM

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So I need to be creative

wet pilot Nov 6, 2019, 8:41 PM

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@scenic radish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1ya35y5Ptc

YouTube

Frog Leap Studios

American Idiot (metal cover by Leo Moracchioli)

Original by Green Day You can buy my albums or singles here: DIRECT FROM ME (LOSSLESS) ► http://bit.ly/2usJ3lq ITUNES ► http://apple.co/1Lni4PR AMAZON ► http...

▶ Play video

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there ya go

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 8:41 PM

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oh boy lol

ebon meteor Nov 6, 2019, 8:42 PM

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@scenic radish https://youtu.be/T1uv-w5quH4

YouTube

0646271191

Teddy Pendergrass - Turn Off The Lights

Song: Turn Off The Lights Artist: Teddy Pendergrass Year: 1979 LP/CD: Teddy Composers: Kevin Gamble, Leon Huff LYRICS Turn off the lights and light a candle ...

▶ Play video

amber ice Nov 6, 2019, 8:43 PM

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That's what I call contrast

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 8:46 PM

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@scenic radish maybe this is interesting
https://open.spotify.com/track/6kG34QqOLt8RDhEUayEKxG?si=ddFb--GXTw-8mOKu4Yncmw

Spotify

I Know You're Gonna Leave Me

I Know You're Gonna Leave Me, a song by Ricochets on Spotify

unreal orbit Nov 6, 2019, 8:46 PM

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Not available in the US

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 8:47 PM

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Damn murica

unreal orbit Nov 6, 2019, 8:47 PM

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this is an outrage. I demand free music.

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 8:47 PM

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https://youtu.be/pFafPpS15Rg

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Reisverket

Ricochets - I Know You´re Gonna Leave Me (NRK Stereo)

http://www.nrk.no/lydverket/lydverket-videoplayer to see this in higher quality, and a lot of other videos.

▶ Play video

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?

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 8:50 PM

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i would never leave you atx

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i saw cheerwine at jewel the other day and thought of you 😉

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 8:50 PM

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Lol

unreal orbit Nov 6, 2019, 8:51 PM

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I want to try cheerwine one day

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I've only ever heard good things

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 8:51 PM

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might have to pick up a pack next time i'm there

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i think i've had it before

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 8:54 PM

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Well I'm not going to Houston in January

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But going to Georgia

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 8:54 PM

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ah why's that?

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 8:54 PM

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They have even more retailers of cheerwine

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We have more offices there related to my interests

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 8:55 PM

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ah there ya go

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 8:56 PM

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I'm going to be speaking with a smooth Southern accent when I leave

low harness Nov 6, 2019, 8:56 PM

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Sorry I couldn't come meet you, btw.

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 8:56 PM

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No worries, I'm fully independent 😛

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And here all day tomorrow, not sure when we finish

wet pilot Nov 6, 2019, 8:57 PM

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@scenic radish its not muse, but radiohead ok? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jABgNScL1To

YouTube

Frog Leap Studios

Creep (metal cover by Leo Moracchioli)

Original by Radiohead You can buy my albums or singles here: LOUDR ► http://bit.ly/1YTc7Mk ITUNES ► http://apple.co/1Lni4PR AMAZON ► http://amzn.to/1U2rqUa G...

▶ Play video

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 8:58 PM

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i do like radiohead too

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 8:58 PM

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puts on wizard robe and hat

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 8:58 PM

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you watch the office atx?

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the american version

unreal orbit Nov 6, 2019, 8:58 PM

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That guy's braided beard is... 😐

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 8:58 PM

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I've listened to Radiohead for over 20 years, but just recently started appreciating them

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@scenic radish yaaaaaas

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 8:59 PM

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it's gotta be like molasses is falling out of your mouth

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yeah that braid is nasty lol

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and wtf is with that contact lens

low harness Nov 6, 2019, 9:00 PM

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I can wave to you from across the water tomorrow, at least.

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 9:00 PM

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creepy af

unreal orbit Nov 6, 2019, 9:00 PM

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It shows you how metal he is

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 9:00 PM

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not you thomas, the contact lens

unreal orbit Nov 6, 2019, 9:01 PM

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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 9:01 PM

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lennyface

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Thomas is a creepy stalker angryboi

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tom

thorn estuary Nov 6, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Where is the best place to ask questions about the deconz hass.io addon?

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Seems to have stopped working for me 😦

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 9:04 PM

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#zigbee-archived or #330990055533576204 if it's add-on specific

thorn estuary Nov 6, 2019, 9:04 PM

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Thanks. I think it is addon specific, so I'll head to #330990055533576204 first!

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 9:05 PM

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We should get a bot that directs user to random channels , just to anger the Dog @clever mortar

velvet horizonBOT Nov 6, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Tinkerer is away for 53m 47s with a message :point_right: Stupidity isn't punishable by death. If it was, there would be a hell of a population drop.

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 9:05 PM

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or directs everyone to #613790866523422723

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actually, we need a bot that specifically detects when someone says hassio in docker and directs them there

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 9:06 PM

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mfw

thorn estuary Nov 6, 2019, 9:20 PM

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I almost went to #330990055533576204 directly, but being under "installation method" it made me think it was about getting started/installing. I done that bit donkeys ago 🙂

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Anyway, I opened a bug for my thing. So I guess the discussion can be async now

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 9:22 PM

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#330990055533576204 is both for the installation method and hassio add-ons

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you can check the channel topics for more info

thorn estuary Nov 6, 2019, 9:22 PM

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Good point, I didn't think to read that. I don't use discord very often

static plinth Nov 6, 2019, 9:43 PM

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i just updated my HA and boy am i excited about the the front end

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seems like a nice step forward

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 9:47 PM

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https://open.spotify.com/track/6k5oWQFKOxDEMv9h9F8ahV?si=6-KNiK0PRXSCdRCy7ykGXQ

Spotify

Man In The Moon

Man In The Moon, a song by Nils Lofgren on Spotify

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This album will never get old to me

clever mortar Nov 6, 2019, 9:48 PM

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@clear ferry any such bot should direct folks to a random wrong channel, then edit the message a minute or two later to have the right channel in it

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If you're gonna cause confusion, do it right 😛

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 9:48 PM

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😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

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Now I want it

wet pilot Nov 6, 2019, 9:49 PM

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@scenic radish DOIT

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 9:49 PM

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fsjal2

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 9:50 PM

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@clever mortar you... are an evil genius

clever mortar Nov 6, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Why.... thank you 😄

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 9:51 PM

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so sometimes at work i line up a few of those french vanilla creamers and down each of them individually

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i call them my work shots

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DAE??

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i of course go around the corner as i take them to hide my shame

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 9:52 PM

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I had to Google it

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It sounded a obscene

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It was not

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https://www.coffeemate.com/products/liquid/french-vanilla/ these?

Coffee mate®

French Vanilla Coffee Creamer from Coffee mate®

Pop the lid on this non-dairy creamer for classic vanilla taste that's perfect anytime.

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 9:53 PM

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indeed

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they're delicious

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the little individual ones

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 9:53 PM

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ThinkEyes

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 9:54 PM

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like, 1 oz (30 ml) each

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 9:55 PM

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I thought I was weird for eating pretzel sticks individually and in roughly 10 bites each

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 9:57 PM

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little tiny nibbles?

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 9:57 PM

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Aye

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 9:57 PM

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pffh weirdo

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 9:57 PM

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My wife denies me since she hates chewing

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So I have to do it in secret

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 9:58 PM

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she hates...chewing?

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does she blend all her food?

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Yes, other people chewing, especially me, since my head is like a reverberation chamber

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Anything I eat can be heard in the next room

scenic radish Nov 6, 2019, 9:58 PM

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lol

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i hate open-mouth chewing with a passion, but i don't care about non-animal-like chewing

unreal orbit Nov 6, 2019, 10:26 PM

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I recommend changing the channel topic of #330944238910963714 to For asking questions unrelated to Home Assistant and getting redirected to the proper channel

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seems to be what it's used most for anyway

clear ferry Nov 6, 2019, 10:29 PM

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😂

wet pilot Nov 6, 2019, 11:53 PM

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🤣

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 12:09 AM

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📎 Attach39956_20191106_180541.gif

hushed basalt Nov 7, 2019, 2:48 AM

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@unreal orbit can you help me diagnose the fault with my starter motor

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If I hold the key turned it just goes clickclickclick

wet pilot Nov 7, 2019, 2:50 AM

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hit it with a hammer

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(i'm not joking)

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if it works, it should work a few times but you should replace the starter

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 3:20 AM

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You sure it's your starter and not your battery?

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But yeah when my starter was going, hitting it with a wrench would temporarily make it work. It didn't make a clicking sound though. In fact it made no noise at all

rough zenith Nov 7, 2019, 3:34 AM

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i had the same problem not long ago. all i ever did was i turned the key fast in repeat until it start. after some time, that method somehow solved the problem.

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btw @hushed basalt , regarding blocking device from router, how do i know if i have successfully blocked it? its destination ip is now my router ip address. is that how its supposed to work? am using asus router

hushed basalt Nov 7, 2019, 3:39 AM

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@scenic radish @wet pilot it's a jokkkkkeeeeeee

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 3:40 AM

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Oh. A human joke? 🤖

thick dragon Nov 7, 2019, 4:23 AM

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Random-ass, completely unrelated to Home Asssistant in any way, shape, or form question - but... Anyone know if it's possible to force certain apps on Android to be exempt from Adaptive Battery optimization?

hushed basalt Nov 7, 2019, 4:46 AM

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@thick dragon search your settings for optimise battery

thick dragon Nov 7, 2019, 4:47 AM

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Ohh, fantastic! Thanks bud. Wish they'd have a link to that from the Adaptive Battery screen.

ocean mirage Nov 7, 2019, 4:49 AM

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Oy telco I know you probably dont go on serverbuilds discord much anymore but did you see that JDM doxed some kid

hushed basalt Nov 7, 2019, 4:53 AM

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Nah I didnt

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JDM is a jerk

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@thick dragon android settings are a nightmare for navigation

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I pretty much use search exclusively to find anything

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What happened @ocean mirage

ocean mirage Nov 7, 2019, 4:59 AM

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Yeah hes always been a jerk, and he sucks others into being jerks too

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someone joined and was just being lolrandom. annoying but harmless. JDM found his twitter (we assume through his forum email) and posted it in public channel

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had his full name

hushed basalt Nov 7, 2019, 5:04 AM

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That's why I always use atxbyea as my username for dodgey sites

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:p

ocean mirage Nov 7, 2019, 5:08 AM

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haha

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Me and at least two other people have stopped being his patreons

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a drop in the sea but I cant support that shit

hushed basalt Nov 7, 2019, 5:14 AM

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I wouldn't trust any affliate recommendations from them anyways

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I have no doubt he'd push crap if he got that sweet $$

ocean mirage Nov 7, 2019, 5:15 AM

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oh absolutely

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basically it blew up for the anniversary build, which had an amazing motherboard that they found and pushed

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worked out well for everyone

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and since then has just been riding the gravy train

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Doing some work but nothing that useful

hushed basalt Nov 7, 2019, 5:22 AM

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I know one of the boards he was pushing were just untested salvages or RMAs even

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Can't remember which

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I stopped watching that sub since it wasn't worth it for me to get any of those 200w nominal systems

ocean mirage Nov 7, 2019, 5:23 AM

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yeah they do not have you in mind for the builds lol

hushed basalt Nov 7, 2019, 5:23 AM

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My optiplexes are like 10w idle each :D

ocean mirage Nov 7, 2019, 5:23 AM

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oh also I am pretty sure he is in someone affiliated with Sargon of Akkad, which is big yikes

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if you know who that is

hushed basalt Nov 7, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Nope

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Sounds like a KKK leader haha

ocean mirage Nov 7, 2019, 5:24 AM

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could be

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Youtube conspiracy theorist and misogynist. Pushes some wild idea

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he also tried to run for UKIP

hushed basalt Nov 7, 2019, 5:45 AM

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I'm not sure what UKIP is :D

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But it's all good

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I'm out of the loop enough

ocean mirage Nov 7, 2019, 5:52 AM

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UK Independence Party

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loonies

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 6:08 AM

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Zzzzzz

wet pilot Nov 7, 2019, 6:09 AM

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psh sleep is for the weak

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 6:12 AM

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Indeed, Ive slept too long

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I'm used to 4-5 hours

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I've slept 7

thick dragon Nov 7, 2019, 6:27 AM

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Moved into my new home, finally got Internet now but can't find where the bloody hell I packed my HA host - so can't even set up my home -_-

wet pilot Nov 7, 2019, 6:27 AM

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womp

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 6:29 AM

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That would have been embarrassing for me two months ago

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Since my ha host was inside a blade enclosure, in a 42u rack

wet pilot Nov 7, 2019, 6:29 AM

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lol

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"must have fallen off the truck"

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 6:30 AM

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Not likely as it was my precious so I would probably sit next to it the whole trip

thick dragon Nov 7, 2019, 6:30 AM

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Haha, mine is just an old laptop. I've found the power brick for it, just not the damn laptop itself.

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 6:32 AM

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Still not as tiny as people with a raspberry pi 😂

wet pilot Nov 7, 2019, 6:32 AM

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i have mine on a box made with a spare i5 that's running all my other docker stuff

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 6:33 AM

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Or that one nutcase out there that has managed to run ha to some extent on a nodemcu

wet pilot Nov 7, 2019, 6:33 AM

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might do a ryzen build at some point for more cores

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 6:33 AM

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With hassio in docker

wet pilot Nov 7, 2019, 6:33 AM

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https://giphy.com/gifs/everyone-remake-rw-s239QJIh56sRW

Giphy

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 6:33 AM

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😂 😂

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I run it on my miniitx host, but I should maybe migrate it to my freenas at some point

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But meh

wet pilot Nov 7, 2019, 6:34 AM

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yeah, its miniitx for me too

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in this case https://www.amazon.com/Fractal-Design-Mini-ITX-Computer-FD-CA-NODE-304-BL/dp/B009LHF4FO

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 6:36 AM

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I wonder when Norwegian journalists will screw up, because there has been a lot of kjedekollisjon the last few weeks, but they have piss poor grammar usually, and you just have to add a single letter for it to be obscene

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@wet pilot https://www.mini-itx.com/

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Love these guys

hushed basalt Nov 7, 2019, 8:45 AM

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You unplug your hosts?

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I take a generator with me when I move

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And keep my UPS fed

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Only filfthy casuals have downtime

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 10:31 AM

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Run away from the bushfiiiiiahs

snow hedge Nov 7, 2019, 11:40 AM

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That vulnerability is certainly interesting with the laser, could provide interesting problems with Teslas, Smart Locks, etc. I think it will get abused, attackers are already attacking keyless entry so I wouldn't think this attack is any more complicated than that

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I can see some solutions though (3d printed speaker grate, disable commands when authorized people aren't home)

hushed basalt Nov 7, 2019, 12:56 PM

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I'm a big fan of electric strikes

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Looks like a normal door. And if you need an external reader you can hide it in a doorbell

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I think "smart" locks are a dare

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Put a door closer on it and then you have a very simple reliable system

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If the door is closed, you know it's locked

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And the door will always close itself

twilit vortex Nov 7, 2019, 1:52 PM

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How much force could such an electric strike have? I'm not familiar with those.

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 2:05 PM

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@clear ferry what's wrong with people who use a raspberry pi for home assistant? hmm? 🤔 🤔 🤔

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 2:06 PM

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They probably hate cherry products too

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bastards

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 2:11 PM

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🍒

amber bramble Nov 7, 2019, 2:12 PM

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I have a schlage connect zwave lock on my front door right now but every couple months when I have to swap the batteries i consider looking into an electric strike and some kind of keypad/fob reader

brisk glen Nov 7, 2019, 2:54 PM

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@amber bramble theres this new unifi stuff in beta

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UniFi Access

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https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1439/1668/products/hero-unifi_diagram_2_1cf64487-d216-460f-888f-87c7d0252659_1024x1024.png?v=1568290865

amber bramble Nov 7, 2019, 2:59 PM

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yeah i saw that, but it doesn't have a manual keypad yet that I saw 😦

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i'd still want a manual keypad in case someone forgot their fob or if we needed to give someone access without being able to get a fob to them

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 3:43 PM

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well, better get ready for my 8 hour drive home 🤣

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Have fun

midnight adder Nov 7, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Is the install-statistics publicly available somewhere?

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 3:56 PM

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What do you mean?

lusty void Nov 7, 2019, 4:00 PM

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Hi. I need some advice=)
I want to replace my regular thermostat (just a cheap one that has a schedule with temperatures).
And I want to have a separate heat controller in each room.
And of course I want to connect it to my HA.
And I can't decide. There are to many options out there.
Option 1) Take any zwave thermostat. And controllers like the one from Fibaro. And connect all of this to HA.
Option 2) Instead of a thermostat to use some other actor connected on the 2 wires from the heater.
Option 3) A full system like the Honeywell evohome and connect HA to it's cloud (I've seen there is a component already)

Option 1 and 2 will probably be cheaper (but must not). But I will have to deal a lot with implementing it.

Has anybody already did something like this and can share the experience? Thx in advance.

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There is option 4 (to build the controllers with Wemos d1 mini or NodeMCU). This would save money, but I don't have enough free time to go this way=)

light trout Nov 7, 2019, 4:03 PM

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@midnight adder no

midnight adder Nov 7, 2019, 4:06 PM

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😦

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Would be interesting to see that statics.

frail adder Nov 7, 2019, 4:09 PM

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has anyone here ever tried an hdmi/display port dummy plug to emulate a connected monitor and run headless systems ?

light trout Nov 7, 2019, 4:09 PM

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yes and no, they would not be correct

boreal pewter Nov 7, 2019, 4:26 PM

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I wonder what usecase that would be?

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Spying

boreal pewter Nov 7, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Huh?

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 4:32 PM

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👀

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Oh nvm, I thought you were talking about the install stats

boreal pewter Nov 7, 2019, 4:34 PM

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lul, nah, the "headless" and hdmi adapter thing

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Sounds like a Windows method of 1990 to me

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So I rather ask before 😛

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 5:18 PM

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So I guess the fossil collider has a bad backlight but I don't think that's a deal breaker for me. Gonna wait until Black Friday for a potential deal and try it out

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 7:10 PM

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angryboi

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 7:15 PM

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y so mad

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 7:38 PM

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Always mad!

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 7:42 PM

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need some 🍒

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 7:59 PM

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Yaaaaaas bitch

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Done 240km home so far, time for dinner

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 8:00 PM

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dinner? but it's only 2 pm 😉

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 8:01 PM

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No, is 9pm sucker!

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Hello from the future!

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 8:01 PM

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damn that's crazy

clever mortar Nov 7, 2019, 8:01 PM

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Or the past...

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 8:01 PM

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time traveler

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Yes, I've was just riding on my bike

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And boom, suddenly I was in the year 802900

clever mortar Nov 7, 2019, 8:02 PM

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You're a ghost driving a meat-coated skeleton made from stardust, riding a rock, hurtling through space. Fear nothing.

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 8:02 PM

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damn are you still on earth?

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has it not been completely destroyed?

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 8:03 PM

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Yes, it is ok because people stopped using plastic straws

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 8:03 PM

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whew

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we're saved

clever mortar Nov 7, 2019, 8:04 PM

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You'll note though that he didn't mention the human race survived...

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 8:04 PM

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oh shit

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 8:04 PM

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Relevant to tinks comment about hurling through space

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https://open.spotify.com/track/38uW0zzbedx7bThlwAHwFx?si=9SOreZ2JSr-r5Cq_KcH4CA

Spotify

Solar Driftwood

Solar Driftwood, a song by Yello on Spotify

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I'm still surprised by how much good music you can make by combining a keyboard nutter and an eccentric millionaire with a deep voice

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 8:39 PM

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muse is the only good music i know

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jk

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 9:08 PM

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angryboi

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 9:13 PM

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A N G E R Y

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 9:46 PM

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And iiiiiii will always be angeeeeeeeyyyyyy

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https://open.spotify.com/track/5xMNjx7uqCzMpJZSo4Wq55?si=VBQ4XAPCQL2UUbhoqDw1ug

Spotify

A Boy Named Sue - Live at San Quentin State Prison, San Quentin, C...

A Boy Named Sue - Live at San Quentin State Prison, San Quentin, CA - February 1969, a song by Johnny Cash on Spotify

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Relevant music to where I'm currently driving

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 11:43 PM

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Hah, stopped by customs on suspicion of not declaring alcohol and tobacco

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They just ended up finding all the cheap baby food I bought in Sweden 🤷

static schooner Nov 7, 2019, 11:48 PM

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80proof cream corn

wet pilot Nov 7, 2019, 11:48 PM

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lol

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Lol

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Lol

wet pilot Nov 7, 2019, 11:50 PM

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kik

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Kek

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Jajaja

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Uffda

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 11:50 PM

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bobs and vagene

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 11:51 PM

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showbob

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 11:52 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20191107-175148.png

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Talk about digging up an old post lol

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2 years later raised_eye

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 11:52 PM

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That isn't necromancy, it's necrophilia

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Lmao

low harness Nov 7, 2019, 11:53 PM

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That's google for ya. Kudos to gjtaylor72 for searching before asking, though.

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Tru

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And yes, I respect the hustle

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Also I'm so dedicated to helping people that I added the forum to my phone as a PWA

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Go me 👏

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 11:55 PM

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cmontrump

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 11:55 PM

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Love that emoji lol

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 11:56 PM

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ShrekBruh

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 11:56 PM

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Not as funny

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 11:56 PM

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Only 130km left till I'm home

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 11:56 PM

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No discording and driving sir

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 11:56 PM

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Don't call me sir buddy

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 11:56 PM

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I'm not your buddy guy

low harness Nov 7, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Makes me think of this... from back where I was doing perhaps too much HA hacking...

📎 kanner_igen_det_dar.jpg

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 11:57 PM

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I identify as an attack chopper

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 11:57 PM

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@low harness I think I'm missing something

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Unless it's that all the suggestions are Hass related lol

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If so, it's probably the same on my end

low harness Nov 7, 2019, 11:58 PM

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All automatic chrome favourites but two are hass related, and the first suggestion when I type a single character into the search bar is home assistant on github.

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 11:58 PM

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Yeah pretty sure mine are similar lol

clear ferry Nov 7, 2019, 11:58 PM

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It isn't too much unless you type Por... And it returns ha hits @scenic radish

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 11:58 PM

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Lmao

low harness Nov 7, 2019, 11:58 PM

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Nowadays typing "g" gives me the backend repo...

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 11:59 PM

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Ooh the backend huh? 😉

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Kinky

low harness Nov 7, 2019, 11:59 PM

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Does portainer count?

scenic radish Nov 7, 2019, 11:59 PM

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searches hot singles in my area
first result is home assistant

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Wtf

clear ferry Nov 8, 2019, 12:00 AM

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Hot single point of failure automations 🤷

scenic radish Nov 8, 2019, 12:01 AM

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{{ state_attr('tediore.tediore', 'expression') }}
confused

clear ferry Nov 8, 2019, 12:08 AM

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Lol i was going to clean the headlights of my car

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But alas

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📎 IMG_20191108_010826.jpg

scenic radish Nov 8, 2019, 12:21 AM

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Well that sucks

clear ferry Nov 8, 2019, 12:22 AM

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Why hath thou forsook me Tedioratio

scenic radish Nov 8, 2019, 12:22 AM

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My 🅱️

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I mean... Myeth 🅱️...eth

clear ferry Nov 8, 2019, 12:23 AM

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ThinkEyes

static schooner Nov 8, 2019, 12:31 AM

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Ahhh...

📎 unknown.png

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year round car washing weather

scenic radish Nov 8, 2019, 12:34 AM

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Ugh

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📎 Screenshot_20191107-1834372.png

wet pilot Nov 8, 2019, 12:35 AM

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sux

scenic radish Nov 8, 2019, 12:35 AM

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Heat wave on Saturday

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Time to put the window insulation film back on the windows to prevent condensation

clear ferry Nov 8, 2019, 12:42 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20191108_014150_com.huawei.android.totemweather.jpg

wet pilot Nov 8, 2019, 12:44 AM

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📎 Q6oncwAqNrJ3gVs7mQAVO1OvwNqJzMAqnaydwGbOxkAVbvT74DayQyAqp3sXcDmTgZA1e70O6B2MgNpqrY3kHEyYMAGDDiNgSzlp.png

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though i'm going to DC this weekend. colder up there

scenic radish Nov 8, 2019, 12:44 AM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/80cb627756f64451c7d5384e13680b95/tenor.gif

clear ferry Nov 8, 2019, 12:45 AM

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harold

scenic radish Nov 8, 2019, 12:45 AM

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My fiancee's grandma's boyfriend looks like hide the pain harold

clear ferry Nov 8, 2019, 12:47 AM

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harold2

clear ferry Nov 8, 2019, 1:22 AM

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Finally home after 20 hour workday, goodnight kthxbai

hushed basalt Nov 8, 2019, 5:52 AM

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Weak

ocean mirage Nov 8, 2019, 7:34 AM

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Excellent effort worker

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You have made your boss some good profit

hushed basalt Nov 8, 2019, 7:47 AM

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I'm pretty sure he's a value subtraction employee

ocean mirage Nov 8, 2019, 7:48 AM

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I need to try some of that

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Can’t extract my surplus value if I don’t produce any

light trout Nov 8, 2019, 8:18 AM

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@clear ferry it's snowing!!!!! 🎉

young sigil Nov 8, 2019, 9:28 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/A1Fcooi.jpg

Imgur

clear ferry Nov 8, 2019, 10:06 AM

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☃

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monkaEvil

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https://i.redd.it/pkj0p7zzdex31.jpg

obtuse topaz Nov 8, 2019, 10:16 AM

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PepeD

clear ferry Nov 8, 2019, 10:57 AM

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dance

clear ferry Nov 8, 2019, 11:22 AM

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📎 IMG_20191108_121907.jpg

pure vine Nov 8, 2019, 11:42 AM

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MeowDance

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BongoCatRGBHype

clear ferry Nov 8, 2019, 12:38 PM

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yeehaw

scenic radish Nov 8, 2019, 1:10 PM

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dance emoji here

clear ferry Nov 8, 2019, 1:18 PM

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https://open.spotify.com/track/1n6bQD3FhgHvY1On0PMZTr?si=tGEShiyWTvyYzTFQwOaZmg

Spotify

Alexandra Leaving

Alexandra Leaving, a song by Sharon Robinson on Spotify

clear mirage Nov 8, 2019, 3:14 PM

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I'm sure some of you have already seen this. But still too good not to share

📎 FB_IMG_1573225991677.jpg

scenic radish Nov 8, 2019, 3:17 PM

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I know it's satire but I also realize it's very possible it actually happened

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And that makes my jimmies become rustled

clear mirage Nov 8, 2019, 3:18 PM

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Yup. I'm glad I never have had to work in IT support or Help Desk. There are just some people that should not have a computer

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Worst i have to deal with is just family stuff

light trout Nov 8, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Some? Make that 80% of the folks calling inn...

clear mirage Nov 8, 2019, 3:23 PM

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What I can't seem to figure out is the people who have a corporate email account and use it as there only email account

light trout Nov 8, 2019, 3:26 PM

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For some that is their only account, they do not have the knowledge to even create a free account with provider X

unreal orbit Nov 8, 2019, 3:27 PM

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But provider X will steal the emails I get about male enhancement pills and sell them to corporations!

light trout Nov 8, 2019, 3:29 PM

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And? you think corperations don't do that?

unreal orbit Nov 8, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Corporations would never do anything nefarious. They have my best interest at heart

light trout Nov 8, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Must be nice living in your world 😄

clear mirage Nov 8, 2019, 3:30 PM

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Lol. That's very true. We had a incident a couple years ago, right around Thanksgiving when someone who I know does that, opened one of those greeting card emails and it was malware. Thankfully it didnt get past the corporate severs

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But I did hear that our it people (we only have 2) put in about 80 hrs over that weekend

light trout Nov 8, 2019, 3:33 PM

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They should instead have spent 1/4 of that before it happend looking at premissions/firewall rules/mail filter%screening/recoveryplans

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oh.. and internal security awareness campaings

clear mirage Nov 8, 2019, 3:35 PM

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I'm sure they did. And we do that regularly especially with the phishing scams. Because people don't look at the actual address..

light trout Nov 8, 2019, 3:36 PM

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wait.. you can look at the address?

unreal orbit Nov 8, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Or they don't look at where the link they're clicking actually goes

light trout Nov 8, 2019, 3:37 PM

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says "important paycheck document" must....click....now...
Hello IT.....

clear ferry Nov 8, 2019, 3:38 PM

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I just.... Stay silent every cyber security month, because if people don't understand the course we have to take mandatory every year.... They shouldn't be working in our company...

light trout Nov 8, 2019, 3:39 PM

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Your company is based around techonlogy so that make sense.
But back when you managed our schools way up north.. well.. I guess that is different 😛

clear ferry Nov 8, 2019, 3:41 PM

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Well, we didn't have much issues with virus or malware really

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Just that the student's broke the windows installs

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Or the harddrives died

clear mirage Nov 8, 2019, 3:48 PM

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That's mostly what i imagine our day to day stuff is... were in manufacturing but have 17 locations that our it department handles. My company- www.richind.com

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https://richind.com/

Richfield Industries

Lisa Dykstra

Home Page - Richfield Industries

Innovation Through Design For over 80 years, Richfield Industries has been developing quality material handling solutions. During that time, we have grown to become the nation’s largest manufacturer of returnable shipping and storage containers. Richfield Industries utilize...

scenic radish Nov 8, 2019, 3:51 PM

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our company sends out fake phishing emails to see how many people click on them and to educate people to not click on things they don't recognize

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the results have been... unsettling

clear mirage Nov 8, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Not surprising... I'm guessing that maybe 70% clicked on them?

scenic radish Nov 8, 2019, 3:59 PM

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something like that...

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i should ask the IT department for an update on that

clear mirage Nov 8, 2019, 4:03 PM

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Lol.

scenic radish Nov 8, 2019, 4:10 PM

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⚠ THE FORUM IS DOWN. I REPEAT, THE FORUM IS DOWN ⚠

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⚠ THIS IS NOT A DRILL ⚠

sacred carbon Nov 8, 2019, 4:14 PM

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yah it is
https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/community.home-assistant.io

boreal pewter Nov 8, 2019, 4:15 PM

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What? Did anyone say 'high available'?

sacred carbon Nov 8, 2019, 4:16 PM

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Someone forgot to feed the hamsters again...

boreal pewter Nov 8, 2019, 4:16 PM

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The raspberry overheated

scenic radish Nov 8, 2019, 4:17 PM

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how are people going to ask questions that are easily answered by reading the docs now?????

unreal orbit Nov 8, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Um

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Discord?

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😉

scenic radish Nov 8, 2019, 4:18 PM

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tru

boreal pewter Nov 8, 2019, 4:18 PM

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Waiting for tmrw, "I actually wanted to ask that yesterday but you were down I think..."

sacred carbon Nov 8, 2019, 4:20 PM

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📎 3fpd5d.png

scenic radish Nov 8, 2019, 4:20 PM

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replace "ha community" with "reddit"

clear mirage Nov 8, 2019, 4:21 PM

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😂

sacred carbon Nov 8, 2019, 4:21 PM

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well that is implied...

scenic radish Nov 8, 2019, 4:22 PM

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because of the implication

unreal orbit Nov 8, 2019, 4:22 PM

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I used to be on reddit for hours everyday. Luckily I kicked that addiction. Now I'm on discord all day 💉

scenic radish Nov 8, 2019, 4:22 PM

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lol

sacred carbon Nov 8, 2019, 4:22 PM

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looks like the hamsters got their naps... it's back.

boreal pewter Nov 8, 2019, 4:23 PM

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I find Reddit a pretty informative portal, like for the RDR2 issues currently to lookup what users the last 3 hours said. None of them would use a specific forum for that nowadays

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But I would probably not make that my community homebase to look at every day for hours

unreal orbit Nov 8, 2019, 4:26 PM

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It definitely has its uses. You just have to be aware when a useful tool becomes an addiction

boreal pewter Nov 8, 2019, 4:26 PM

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Discord cough

unreal orbit Nov 8, 2019, 4:27 PM

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That would fall into the same category, I agree

boreal pewter Nov 8, 2019, 4:34 PM

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I wonder what this Teamspeak 4 is going to be about

brisk glen Nov 8, 2019, 5:11 PM

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pls come back from discord to us ts4

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lol

boreal pewter Nov 8, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Wonder tho if it is going to be a Discord Alternative

clear ferry Nov 8, 2019, 5:59 PM

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I'm dreaming of a white Christmas 🎹

📎 JPEG_20191108_185843.jpg

clear mirage Nov 8, 2019, 6:16 PM

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I live in Michigan and by where my dad lives in Traverse City, they got about 6" last night.

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So here's the electric mustang- https://www.mlive.com/news/g66l-2019/11/26ddff1b944654/ford-unveils-fully-electric-mustang-concept-car-with-900-hp-6speed-manual-transmission.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mlivedotcom_sf&fbclid=IwAR18L7VeaqJ4_CLe3mxEsgKml48SkEGOXPJjiLbfHEgS8GiW0vnLq4mCVIY

mlive

Ford unveils fully electric Mustang concept car with 900 HP, 6-spe...

The concept vehicle was unveiled in Las Vegas Tuesday, but i snot scheduled to be released to the public.

boreal pewter Nov 8, 2019, 6:21 PM

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That is yet considered a concept car and probably wont be produced

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Sadly

clear ferry Nov 8, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Murica will never accept electric mufftangs

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Would kill the American dream

light trout Nov 8, 2019, 9:40 PM

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Still going, kinda

📎 still_going.gif

clever mortar Nov 8, 2019, 9:45 PM

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That looks... poorly

scenic radish Nov 8, 2019, 9:46 PM

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cpu temp?

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also... just imagine your db if you have input_booleans stored 😱

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ONOFFONONOFFONOFFONONONONOFFOFFONOFFONONOFFOFFOFFOFFONON

light trout Nov 8, 2019, 9:48 PM

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was a devcontainer, so not sure about temps or other things, it made my host slow too, so I killed it 😛

scenic radish Nov 8, 2019, 9:48 PM

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well it was fun while it lasted

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RIP BooLooP automation 2019 - 2019

clever mortar Nov 8, 2019, 9:49 PM

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It's a fork bomb equivalent

scenic radish Nov 8, 2019, 9:49 PM

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42.zip

pure vine Nov 8, 2019, 10:29 PM

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@clever mortar thanks for recomending sipgate, one thing i have been supprised at is the cost of international calling compared to my ISP

📎 calling_newzealand.png

clever mortar Nov 8, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Can't remember the last year I made an international call in...

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Other than at work anyway

pure vine Nov 8, 2019, 10:30 PM

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I dont intend to, im just supprised at how cheap it is

clever mortar Nov 8, 2019, 10:30 PM

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😄

hushed basalt Nov 8, 2019, 10:37 PM

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I need a good sip trunk for western australia

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All the sip providers in Aus are like on the east coast

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For some reason they don't seem to care that having a sip gateway 4000km and 12 hops away isn't good.

hasty parcel Nov 9, 2019, 12:14 AM

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I have messed around with this stuff for ages on the bench but only just now have HA working in "prod" and the WAF is very high! Thanks to everyone who wrote this stuff 😄

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📎 unknown.png

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switch control via zigbee2mqtt, sprinklers controlled via a 4 channel relay board running esphome

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 12:32 AM

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I am feeling very smug atm. Spent the better part of a week to get to this point, but I managed to get all 4 major package carriers into Home Assistant without web scraping or email while still using data provided directly from the carriers!

📎 unknown.png

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Instead, I have a mobile internet dongle in an rpi parsing the SMS messages sent from the carriers to the SIM card. 😂

scenic radish Nov 9, 2019, 12:33 AM

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Oh wow lol

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That's pretty funny

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 12:34 AM

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$10 a month all told to pull that off. Works better than the UPS or USPS integration ever did.

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I went a step further though and used AWS Lambda and DynamoDB as a stateful backend and paired it into HA via a custom integration

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once I iron out UPS and Amazon's messages I'll write up a personal blog post and toss all the code online.

scenic radish Nov 9, 2019, 12:53 AM

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That'll be an interesting read

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 1:13 AM

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even more so if I explain how I broke my cellular provider's customer support and tech support explaining this lol

plain trail Nov 9, 2019, 1:23 AM

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📎 fly-1.png

scenic radish Nov 9, 2019, 2:01 AM

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Nice try @plain trail

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😉

hushed basalt Nov 9, 2019, 3:35 AM

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How did a fly get in my screen

sacred carbon Nov 9, 2019, 4:05 AM

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@slow acorn you are such a nerd, in the most loving way. ; ]]

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 4:45 AM

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Can confirm lol

hushed basalt Nov 9, 2019, 5:55 AM

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@slow acorn is there any provider that lets you have a virtual mobile number to receive SMS

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SMS to sqs would be nice

sacred carbon Nov 9, 2019, 5:57 AM

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https://www.twilio.com/ is what I use. It's a paid service pretty cheap

Twilio

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Look for the programable sms

hushed basalt Nov 9, 2019, 5:58 AM

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Aws pinpoint?

scenic radish Nov 9, 2019, 6:40 AM

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@hushed basalt Google voice

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Free for personal use

wet pilot Nov 9, 2019, 6:40 AM

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i keep forgetting that that is still a thing

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kinda surprising that google hasn't killed it yet

hushed basalt Nov 9, 2019, 6:40 AM

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Give it time

wet pilot Nov 9, 2019, 6:41 AM

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i gave up google voice when i switched to project FI

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they forced me to port my number in

scenic radish Nov 9, 2019, 6:41 AM

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I use it all the time

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For people/services that I don't want having my real number

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When I was still in the dating world it was a godsend

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Lotta crazies out there

hushed basalt Nov 9, 2019, 6:42 AM

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I wish it was in Australia

clear ferry Nov 9, 2019, 6:51 AM

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Google Voice? Sounds like a murica only thing

hushed basalt Nov 9, 2019, 7:03 AM

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Muuurrica

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Books!

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Taco bell

clear ferry Nov 9, 2019, 7:11 AM

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Books? ThonkEyes

hushed basalt Nov 9, 2019, 8:44 AM

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https://youtu.be/U1mlCPMYtPk

YouTube

BadfishKoo

AMERICA F*#K YEAH! MUSIC VIDEO - Team America World Police THEME SONG

AMERICA F*#K YEAH! MUSIC VIDEO from the move "Team America World Police" Regular & Bummer Versions !!!!!!

▶ Play video

clear ferry Nov 9, 2019, 9:42 AM

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Meh, so few triple display mini pcs on AliExpress

hasty parcel Nov 9, 2019, 9:58 AM

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You could use DisplayLink if you get desperate

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My Dell laptop would do two extra displays via DP, too

clear ferry Nov 9, 2019, 10:05 AM

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Might work, but I would prefer something with native three displays ThonkEyes

orchid rose Nov 9, 2019, 11:01 AM

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Can't think of anything interesting to buy for 11.11... Running out of things to automate

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Was going to buy a Xiaomi 9T but banggood ran out of stock and now the discount code is no longer working 😦

boreal pewter Nov 9, 2019, 12:14 PM

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lol

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I'm waiting for a good phone from Xiaomi other than the Black Shark 2

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But the Asus ROG one looks so good too 😛

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Anyone knows when Xiaomi will release new phones?

light trout Nov 9, 2019, 12:26 PM

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https://www.vgtv.no/187645?jwsource=cl...

hushed basalt Nov 9, 2019, 12:29 PM

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@clear ferry displayport daisy chaining is the dope

clear ferry Nov 9, 2019, 12:34 PM

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Sure, when all the devices have dp and the source supports it 😛

distant stream Nov 9, 2019, 1:34 PM

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i finally set up my HA directory as a git repo

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and learned how to properly use git

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today is a good day

orchid rose Nov 9, 2019, 2:35 PM

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why do they not have winter tires on in NORWAY Ludeeus?

clear ferry Nov 9, 2019, 2:36 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20191109_153603.jpg

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HA edition

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@orchid rose because people are idiots

orchid rose Nov 9, 2019, 2:37 PM

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do you guys have a law requiring it?

light trout Nov 9, 2019, 2:37 PM

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yes

orchid rose Nov 9, 2019, 2:38 PM

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So people just ignore it so they can kill themselves and/or others. Interesting.

light trout Nov 9, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Correct

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The first days/weeks of snowing is interresting...
Every fucking year..
Trains stops, busses have issues, folks "forget" that the road get icy.....

clear ferry Nov 9, 2019, 2:39 PM

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I just don't understand why when every lorry has to stop at the border to check the cargo that there is no law in place to check their tires too, because 60% of all accidents in winter are lorrys from Europe

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Driving on slick summer tires

boreal pewter Nov 9, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Because we can

clear ferry Nov 9, 2019, 2:53 PM

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angryboi

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🧘

low harness Nov 9, 2019, 3:05 PM

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I put on the winter tires last week, just in case. Expecting snow in February.

clear ferry Nov 9, 2019, 3:07 PM

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It was fricking cold at your place though

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But typical coast cold

potent depot Nov 9, 2019, 3:20 PM

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hi

low harness Nov 9, 2019, 3:23 PM

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Yeah. That’s more wet than cold.

clear ferry Nov 9, 2019, 3:40 PM

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I might be coming back though @low harness the customer has a lot of stuff needed doing xi2

ruby finch Nov 9, 2019, 4:02 PM

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Good afternoon all

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Long time no speak. It’s been about a year since my last attempt at HA

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What’s new? 😁

light trout Nov 9, 2019, 4:06 PM

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TLDR; everything

ruby finch Nov 9, 2019, 4:14 PM

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😄

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HA cloud had just been introduced

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If I was getting into HA right now. RIGHT NOW. What do I need to know?

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I have a RPi 3 B and a Z-Wave stick, but very little actual equipment other than a smattering of wifi-only IoT jazz

light trout Nov 9, 2019, 4:17 PM

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how to read documentation

ruby finch Nov 9, 2019, 4:18 PM

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I'm good at that @light trout , but the docs don't really do strategy, unless there are new docs since I last checked

light trout Nov 9, 2019, 4:19 PM

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strategy?

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Whatever works for you would be my best guess 🤷

ruby finch Nov 9, 2019, 4:20 PM

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I suppose I'm thinking about the meta, if HA was a card game

light trout Nov 9, 2019, 4:20 PM

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It would be filled with just jokers

ruby finch Nov 9, 2019, 4:20 PM

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I thought I read somewhere that Z-Wave is floundering a bit and Zigbee/proprietary wifi stuff is in the ascendancy, for example

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😄

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or all Ace ♠

light trout Nov 9, 2019, 4:21 PM

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The #zigbee-archived and/or #zwave-archived channels whould probably have some insight on that.

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Looks like there is somone hanging out in the vocie channel ATM, maybe they could offer some insights as well

ruby finch Nov 9, 2019, 4:22 PM

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👍 thanks

clever mortar Nov 9, 2019, 6:37 PM

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Z-Wave isn't exactly floundering 😉

light trout Nov 9, 2019, 6:41 PM

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I wouldn't know

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📎 unknown.png

clever mortar Nov 9, 2019, 6:41 PM

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😛

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I work on the theory that anything releasing new generations of a technology isn't dead yet

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Whether it'll still be alive in a year... well, who knows 🤷

velvet horizonBOT Nov 9, 2019, 6:42 PM

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:8ball: 8Ball prdiction:

Question: is Z-Wave still around a year from now?
Answer: Prospect Good

light trout Nov 9, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Buy stocks now! 💸

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 6:48 PM

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@hushed basalt @sacred carbon fun fact, Twilio doesn't support receiving SMS short code messages. I tried this first, but got nowhere, thus the solution I have now.

sacred carbon Nov 9, 2019, 6:49 PM

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I call it directly through node-red. direct api call

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Add the node-red-node-twilio to node-red

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done. (tm)(copyright)(1987)

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 6:53 PM

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yeah, but for package notifications, it doesn't work. 😛

sacred carbon Nov 9, 2019, 6:53 PM

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It should, just build out the logic from your sensor.

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 6:53 PM

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lol

sacred carbon Nov 9, 2019, 6:53 PM

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er. trigger whatever you are using.

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 6:53 PM

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let me explain real fast

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SMS messages from USPS come from 28777 This is an SMS Short Code, and while they work going to a proper SIM card, they don't work going to Twilio. https://support.twilio.com/hc/en-us/articles/223181668-Can-Twilio-numbers-receive-SMS-from-a-short-code-

Twilio Support

Can Twilio numbers receive SMS from a short code?

Twilio numbers cannot receive messages from US, Canada, and UK short code numbers. This limitation applies to both Twilio short codes and non-Twilio short codes.
Short codes in other countries may ...

sacred carbon Nov 9, 2019, 6:56 PM

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you capture that sms coming in now right?

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in to HA?

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(at least I think I saw you did)

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 6:57 PM

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yeah, via https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0771QQW4X/

sacred carbon Nov 9, 2019, 6:57 PM

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have HA take that. (sensor, trigger) pass it off to node-red to twilio

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 6:57 PM

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a Mobile Broadband datastick (USB Modem)

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I'm passing it from the raw data on the stick to AWS Lambda via POSTing to an AWS API Gateway endpoint. Sensor data persistence is handled via a DynamoDB table. A Custom package component queries the API Gateway via a GET endpoint. This calls another lambda that returns the non-delivered packages and count in an HA state object that can be inserted into the Sensor's state 😄

ruby finch Nov 9, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Oh hey @clever mortar It might actually have been your blog that gave me that idea 🙃

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 7:01 PM

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So it looks and feels like calling a real remote API, just that you control the data end to end.

sacred carbon Nov 9, 2019, 7:02 PM

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if you are doing all that api call stuff, you can can do it real easy in node-red.

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 7:02 PM

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It also certainly beats the email script that everyone and their brother has tweaked to hell and back which will break once the HTML markup changes in those emails

sacred carbon Nov 9, 2019, 7:03 PM

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or create an endpoint in node-red that receives that api data, and update ha with it...

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 7:03 PM

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I mean, I could. Or I can just use my AWS free tier for all these services and never cost a dime

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well, outside the cost of the cellular SMS

sacred carbon Nov 9, 2019, 7:03 PM

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you can run a node-red instance in AWS.

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make your own api layer.

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 7:03 PM

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sure. EC2, yeah?

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That will cost me money. I already have multiple EC2 instances lol

sacred carbon Nov 9, 2019, 7:04 PM

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I sumbled upon node-red and omg man, powerful powerful stuff esp when you want to interact with outside service/api's

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run it on another pi then lol

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it runs on a shoe string

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 7:05 PM

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API Gateway's free tier more than covers the request counts on a month. lambda requires a VERY long runtime, a lot of RAM, or a ton of calls, to make it cost anything more than $0.01

sacred carbon Nov 9, 2019, 7:06 PM

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so how you getting it off the stick currently? just a shell script?

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 7:06 PM

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and you get 5 reads and 5 writes a second on a dynamodb table for free

sacred carbon Nov 9, 2019, 7:06 PM

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probably can hook up the dynamodb up to the node-red as well.

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 7:06 PM

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yeah, atm it's a script. This modem's AT command support is... lacking.

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but, if you find a modem that does support AT antics via USB Serial.... gammu-smsd's RunOnReceive is the way to go

sacred carbon Nov 9, 2019, 7:07 PM

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so easy way, create a http listener in node red, have that script just call that listener, kick off the work flow in node-red

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 7:07 PM

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To be fair... I work for AWS lol so obviously I'm going to use that

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All the code for this will be on GitHub, so anyone is free to fork, PR, etc

sacred carbon Nov 9, 2019, 7:08 PM

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leverage that power g

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problem with aws it doesn't natively chat with other services. give node red a glance. I think you would enjoy it.

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 7:11 PM

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but I don't NEED it to chat with other services

sacred carbon Nov 9, 2019, 7:12 PM

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for this little application, it would be perfect.
script -> node-red's flow which can trigger lots of stuff.

and by chat, I mean use others api's

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 7:13 PM

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    def _update(self):
        data = '{"carrier": "%s"}' %(self._carrier)

        response = requests.get('removed', data=data)
        json = response.json()
        self._state = json["data"]["state"]
        self._attributes = {ATTR_ATTRIBUTION: "Information provided by a cellular modem and AWS magic"}
        self._attributes.update(json["data"]["attributes"])

        return```

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HA can just call my API Gateway

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which will provide state lol

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oh... node red is like... visual drag and drop code blocks lol

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yeah, I'll stick to having complete control over the code I run lol

sacred carbon Nov 9, 2019, 7:17 PM

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you can get nutty with coding in node-red, it just takes care of that middle layer that no one wants to code up... but each to their own. I get it.

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Amazon says I am a "Software Development Engineer"... The subsidiary I work for calls me an "SRE". I like writing my own code and having operational control over it 😄

sacred carbon Nov 9, 2019, 7:18 PM

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heeh but even software engineers use sdk's

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(Im also a software engineer)

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 7:18 PM

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sure. I used boto3 here lol

sacred carbon Nov 9, 2019, 7:18 PM

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you just want to know all the code that is running, I get that.

slow acorn Nov 9, 2019, 7:19 PM

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I just didn't mind connecting all the things. It's already done minus some regex for the two carriers I haven't had a shipment from since I started this.

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switching providers is also a TON more work when it's not needed

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but the general idea is, the code will be Apache 2.0 licensed (matching HA's licensing) so everyone will be free to do with it what they want

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Plus, someone, somewhere will tell me how shit my code is for x, y, or z reason. Which, they are free to fix it if they are so inclined.

jagged mantle Nov 9, 2019, 7:52 PM

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are someone using the symfonisk remote as a dimmer?

clever mortar Nov 9, 2019, 7:58 PM

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#zigbee-archived folks may be

clear ferry Nov 9, 2019, 9:01 PM

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Symfonisk remote? ThinkEyes

light trout Nov 9, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Volume control

clear ferry Nov 9, 2019, 9:03 PM

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The buttons on the speaker itself?

light trout Nov 9, 2019, 9:03 PM

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No

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https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/1/20892984/ikea-sound-controller-review-symfonisk

clear ferry Nov 9, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Oh, I haven't seen that at all, didn't even show up when I looked at their page

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I'm probably just blind xi2

scenic radish Nov 9, 2019, 11:12 PM

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Have you guys noticed that every appliance is either a heater, a motor, or both?

wet pilot Nov 9, 2019, 11:13 PM

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yup

scenic radish Nov 9, 2019, 11:13 PM

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mindblown

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 4:56 AM

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WeSmart

hushed basalt Nov 10, 2019, 5:42 AM

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All motors are heaters

scenic radish Nov 10, 2019, 6:14 AM

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But not all heaters are motors

young sigil Nov 10, 2019, 7:46 AM

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Tell that to Robert Brown.

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 8:16 AM

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I'm a hot motor

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Automate me

hushed basalt Nov 10, 2019, 8:33 AM

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First rule of lean

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Don't automate waste

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 8:37 AM

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sad

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📎 IMG_20191110_093620.jpg

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Supposed to snow all of next week too

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So better get my plow out

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 10:00 AM

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Neil Young - Journeys was a great DVD

rare condor Nov 10, 2019, 11:31 AM

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@clear ferry What AP do you use?

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 11:32 AM

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I ran HP 420 for years, then some Cisco 1200 for a few years and moved over to msm310 and later msm466

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But after I stopped using vlans for stuff I bought some cheap meshable Linksys ones that supported both mesh and bridge at the same time

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But I have a few msm466 still in my lab, and 25 of them in boxes still

hushed basalt Nov 10, 2019, 11:50 AM

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Unifis APs are pretty good tbh

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I'm sure their routers and switches are hot garbage though

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I worry about all these mesh kits

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Suburban spectrum is going to get destroyed

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 11:52 AM

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Living in the city is for shitkids anyway 🤣

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long live the countryside

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I don't have any issues with either wifi coverage or zigbee coverage, unlike poor @unreal orbit sad

hushed basalt Nov 10, 2019, 11:53 AM

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Why mesh though

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Can't you run APs

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 11:54 AM

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I have them all hardwired, but the meshing gives me the possibility to actually be connected to two of the linksys' at the same time for aggregated throughput

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which is nice when I'm stuck inbetween two of them without very good coverage from either

hushed basalt Nov 10, 2019, 11:54 AM

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For all those UHD bluray remuxes you need to watch on your phone in 8x realtime :D

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 11:55 AM

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🤣

hushed basalt Nov 10, 2019, 11:55 AM

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Have you tried having a smaller house

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 11:55 AM

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I'm currently looking for something twice this size

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🤷

hushed basalt Nov 10, 2019, 11:55 AM

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Live in a tiny house

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Problem solvered

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 11:56 AM

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no thank you, like the neighbour with 3 kids and usually two relatives living with him

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in 120m2 🤢

hushed basalt Nov 10, 2019, 11:57 AM

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I think there's a survey

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Where most people who built a tiny house regret it

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 11:58 AM

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yeah, I have 255m2 and I want something bigger still

ocean mirage Nov 10, 2019, 11:59 AM

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Fucking boomer

rare condor Nov 10, 2019, 11:59 AM

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@hushed basalt I really like there edgerouters and switches can't fault them, they work well and are updated often, plus linux base so can always install apt packages.

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 11:59 AM

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But I'm genZ @ocean mirage 😂

hushed basalt Nov 10, 2019, 11:59 AM

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Gen zzzzzz

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Because you took too many arthritis pills

ocean mirage Nov 10, 2019, 12:00 PM

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Boomer is a state of mind. I know you are really the silent generation

rare condor Nov 10, 2019, 12:00 PM

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@clear ferry Am i missing /s or legit gen z?

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 12:01 PM

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No fuuuck, I'm gen x

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1984

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angryboi

ocean mirage Nov 10, 2019, 12:01 PM

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Doubt

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 12:01 PM

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I'm a boomer @ocean mirage

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According to Wikipedia

ocean mirage Nov 10, 2019, 12:02 PM

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Damn right you are

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 12:02 PM

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Or post boomer

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sad

ocean mirage Nov 10, 2019, 12:02 PM

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If you want a 500 square meter house you are a boomer

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Simple math

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 12:03 PM

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But I also want a Audi A8L W12, does that make me a boomer?

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I only had the A8L V6, so double what I had!

ocean mirage Nov 10, 2019, 12:03 PM

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Yes

rare condor Nov 10, 2019, 12:04 PM

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$331,300* 😶

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Ok I didn't know we were 1%'er

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 12:05 PM

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Damn right we are

ocean mirage Nov 10, 2019, 12:06 PM

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Yuck

rare condor Nov 10, 2019, 12:11 PM

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I was born 97. I find most people here are mid twenties from what I have seen

ocean mirage Nov 10, 2019, 12:11 PM

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atxbyea predates the Magna Carta

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Throws off the stats

clever mortar Nov 10, 2019, 12:12 PM

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Yes, I'm in my mid 20s... again 😛

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500 sqm house in the UK would be a mansion

ocean mirage Nov 10, 2019, 12:14 PM

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Rurally it makes more sense I guess but I can’t imagine using all that space

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I’d not fill it

rare condor Nov 10, 2019, 12:14 PM

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You need space to store all your random useless IOT gear. 😛

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I would love a workshop though

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Like a proper lab, woodworking station etc.

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@clever mortar, again? how was the first run

clever mortar Nov 10, 2019, 12:15 PM

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Less fun than the second

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I mean, it was still fun, but... I know more now, and can afford to do things 😛

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 12:27 PM

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I would say the average house size in Norway is probably above 300sqm

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Let's see if I can find some number

clever mortar Nov 10, 2019, 12:27 PM

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The average UK home - including older and new-build properties is 85 sq m

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 12:28 PM

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Meh, all apartments pulls the numbers down drastically

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It was 115sqm in 2001

clever mortar Nov 10, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Yeah, I'd guess that a typical house is in the region of 100 to 120 sqm here

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200 sqm is a large house here

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 12:30 PM

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In 2010 the average was 120

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But that is because of Oslo and Bergen probably, while I grew up in the north noone had anything less than 200sqm

clever mortar Nov 10, 2019, 12:31 PM

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Yeah, but that's also the nature of having space to build in (even if it isn't necessarily "prime real estate")

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 12:44 PM

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Slowsnow https://imgur.com/gallery/RXaUWIt

strange vapor Nov 10, 2019, 1:08 PM

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Fixed my Grafana install. Lots of pretty graphs 😄

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 1:11 PM

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I need to get into that too

strange vapor Nov 10, 2019, 1:12 PM

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Feeding it lots of metrics with Prometheus 🙂

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 2:59 PM

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https://i.redd.it/rsjpjc7lotx31.png

scenic radish Nov 10, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Tru

scenic radish Nov 10, 2019, 3:28 PM

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WARNING: setup of platform x is taking longer than 10 seconds

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Me:
https://media.tenor.com/images/084f786c0ec03214e475125131937f58/tenor.gif

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Filthy Pi-casual

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Git gud

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LoreHead

static plinth Nov 10, 2019, 3:51 PM

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I'm doing a home assistant install on a 500 square meter house right now and it's my first install and I got to say guys y'all are getting me through.

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 3:52 PM

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oh_no

clever mortar Nov 10, 2019, 3:53 PM

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We're sorry for your loss:

of sanity
of spare time
of spare cash

static plinth Nov 10, 2019, 3:53 PM

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She is great, the client

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But can you imagine having no smart blinds

clever mortar Nov 10, 2019, 3:53 PM

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Ooooh, you're doing this for somebody else... scary/fun times 😄

static plinth Nov 10, 2019, 3:53 PM

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Because each blind is $300

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And she has like a gazillion windows

clever mortar Nov 10, 2019, 3:53 PM

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There are generally cheaper options, but yeah,none of this is cheap

static plinth Nov 10, 2019, 3:53 PM

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I think there's a lot of benefit that's being small

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 3:54 PM

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I was working in a customer house that had smart tech from 10 years ago

static plinth Nov 10, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Well she ended up going with a window blind that is not compatible with any kind of machine

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Probably $800,000 of hardware, but it works so good

static plinth Nov 10, 2019, 3:55 PM

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That's kind of how I stumbled into this thing, everyone else was bidding control4 and it was like a gazillion dollars

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 3:55 PM

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We are talking about being able to pause and start video from any part of the house and resume it wherever you go, and speakers behind walls that are fine tuned to play through the wall drapings

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This is mostly crestron and a few other controller brands

static plinth Nov 10, 2019, 3:56 PM

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Yeah that sounds like control for to me and it's still out there. but it's like the difference between a gas and electric vehicle. the electric stuff is costly because it's new the gas stuff is costly because there's a shitload of things that need to be interconnected together for it to work.

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*Control4

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 3:57 PM

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No control4 no

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But roughly 2000sqm house

static plinth Nov 10, 2019, 3:57 PM

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In fact that was the worst part of the install, getting the cable boxes to play in each TV

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 4:01 PM

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Here there was 4 hd tuners in the main TV rack, plus a few Dolby amps, streaming around the house was only 1080, because 10 years ago, but upgrading to 4k on all streams, was 25 TVs if my counting was right

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Plus a cinema with support for all major formats of both video and audio

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And everything was passing through crestron devices as far as I could see

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Some x425 or something for all light controls

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Twinkly on sale in Norway for singles day ThinkEyes

static plinth Nov 10, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Sounds about twice as large, so at least four times as complicated as what I'm trying to do with knock-off brands and what not today. But for example of a 4K Matrix audio visual distribution system I would think today would cost $35,000 in hardware components to do what you're saying, before whatever is required to patch everything together

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 4:18 PM

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Yeah, and this was 10+ years ago 😛

static plinth Nov 10, 2019, 4:23 PM

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Write my price was based off of knockoffs not the real thing

static plinth Nov 10, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Smart TVs make alot of that stuff obsolete

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But there are still nuances. Sonos doesn't support the best sound formats. Cable TV is specifically unfriendly. Unifi protect lacks an API. Abode will directly register smoke detectors but not pass through to HA.

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To get that $800k experience it still takes either that solution or a lot of careful product selection and programming

past idol Nov 10, 2019, 9:35 PM

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anyone into cooking ?

scenic radish Nov 10, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Generally just simple things

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Grilled meat, rice or pasta, and a vegetable

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I do make some pretty good fried breaded chicken from scratch though

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 9:47 PM

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I usually end up cooking myself, when I solder

clever mortar Nov 10, 2019, 9:48 PM

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I too have seen the r/techsupportgore posts 😉

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Wtf https://imgur.com/gallery/E4LUZ5u

Imgur

Wtf

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I'm not as bad as this though

wet pilot Nov 10, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Yeah, that's a 3rd degree burn

clear ferry Nov 10, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Just a flesh wound by the looks of her

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harold

hushed basalt Nov 11, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Is she soldering the battery too

static schooner Nov 11, 2019, 1:07 AM

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It *is+ a stock photo 🙂

ancient lance Nov 11, 2019, 2:04 AM

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Hello all, I am very new to HA, I am looking for a private tutor that would like to help me get up to speed on HA and what it's capability, I am very well versed in hardware and capable to get in trouble easily. I don't have a personal IT friend that I could ask questions. I will compensate you for your time. My project involve getting HA installed in a home/shop building. Thanks!

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 5:08 AM

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tbh i don't think you'll find someone to do that, but i guess you never know. the docs are helpful and if you still don't understand something after reading the docs and trying something, then people here or on the forum can help

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Damn its snowing hard

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📎 JPEG_20191111_072311.jpg

finite glen Nov 11, 2019, 6:45 AM

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Now i want snow too

light trout Nov 11, 2019, 6:46 AM

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You can't have ours!

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 6:47 AM

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My precious

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HYPERCLAP

orchid rose Nov 11, 2019, 6:59 AM

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plenty of snow on the ground but the forecasts are getting dangerously close to zero Celsius which is going to suck

hushed basalt Nov 11, 2019, 7:01 AM

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Does that mean the snow turns to ice?

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I don't speak artic

orchid rose Nov 11, 2019, 7:03 AM

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it turns it into this awful liquid form that ruins lives - and shoes

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 7:07 AM

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Better with rain in -2

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That shit rocks

ocean mirage Nov 11, 2019, 7:12 AM

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I sort of assumed that for there to be a lot of snow it would be below freezing

orchid rose Nov 11, 2019, 7:13 AM

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it does create a layer of ice at first

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air melts the snow and then the rest of the snow freezes it

light trout Nov 11, 2019, 7:14 AM

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Does not have to be below zero for it to be much snow, but it helps

orchid rose Nov 11, 2019, 7:15 AM

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I've been to Norway and the amount of snow you guys get is bonkers.. We get probably 10% of that

light trout Nov 11, 2019, 7:16 AM

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It's not that much, at least not near the capitol, but the folks here does not know how to cope with it...

boreal pewter Nov 11, 2019, 7:17 AM

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So who else is triggered by Diablo 4 ?

orchid rose Nov 11, 2019, 7:17 AM

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it was Lofoten we visited when I was a kid

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 7:29 AM

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Snow snow https://imgur.com/gallery/0PwPGO5

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We had so much snow the first winter here @light trout that I actually had to shovel every day

hushed basalt Nov 11, 2019, 7:46 AM

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@ocean mirage the snow is formed at higher altitudes

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So afaik it doesn't need to be below zero at ground level for snow to form

ocean mirage Nov 11, 2019, 7:46 AM

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Yeah I get that - its even snowed here, but I assumed it'd disappear quickly otherwise

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 7:57 AM

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Usually the colder it is the less likely it is to snow

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It prefers to snow around 0

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 8:57 AM

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Jesus the man it is snowing

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Must have come 20-25cm just today so far

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And it is still pouring down

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 9:13 AM

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Almost realistic picture of Oslo right now

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📎 Screenshot_20191111_101334.jpg

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I'm glad I'm taking the day off

finite glen Nov 11, 2019, 9:19 AM

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😮

long wedge Nov 11, 2019, 10:19 AM

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Any recommendations for smart light with no hub, reasonable price and can be dimmed quite low as well as colour depth being pretty decent?

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 10:20 AM

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Yeelight works fine for me

long wedge Nov 11, 2019, 10:25 AM

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Cheers, I'll look into it. They do both E27 and B22 I take it?

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 10:30 AM

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I only know E sockets, we aren't from the land down under

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Don't pass me that Vegemite sandwich

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🤢 😛

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Anybody seen any good deals on AliExpress today though?

long wedge Nov 11, 2019, 10:36 AM

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I'm not the land down under either, I'm UK and we use both E27 and B22, we aren't a normal bunch at times

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 10:37 AM

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Woot

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Thought b22 was only in the dingostate

light trout Nov 11, 2019, 10:40 AM

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We have that here to, my exterior lights is b22

long wedge Nov 11, 2019, 10:40 AM

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Nope, infact my philips hue lights here are B22

hushed basalt Nov 11, 2019, 11:02 AM

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I'd say you'd have to break your no hub rule and go hue with a cc2531

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 11:15 AM

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ThinkEyes

willow dragon Nov 11, 2019, 11:17 AM

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Is there a Node-Red discord channel?

finite glen Nov 11, 2019, 11:18 AM

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Yes @willow dragon it is located at #node-red-archived under related

willow dragon Nov 11, 2019, 11:19 AM

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I mean't it's own channel

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But thanks, i'll check it out

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 11:20 AM

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You mean server @willow dragon ?

willow dragon Nov 11, 2019, 11:25 AM

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yeah thats it

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Is there one?

boreal pewter Nov 11, 2019, 11:56 AM

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@long wedge you definitely need a Hub, the question is just how generic. Like for Xiaomi you don't need the Xiaomi Hub, but the products use Zigbee and therefor you could use a Conbee2 as a universal hub. That yet runs for me Ikea TradFri and Xiaomi sensors.
As well as for the lamp you have been a bit unspecific, for bulbs I would use the Yeelights RGB/W Bulb and for the overhead lights I'm tinkering the most with the Xiaomi Yeelight JIAOYUE 650 Starry. That has Starry light, Moonlight and normal RGBW as far I know...

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https://de.gearbest.com/flush-ceiling-lights/pp_1119115.html ❤

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 12:14 PM

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Time to plow

📎 JPEG_20191111_131414.jpg

boreal pewter Nov 11, 2019, 12:33 PM

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You still didn't get a fucking Unimog for that?

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Damn bro

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 1:27 PM

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Deutschland über alles ich verstehe!

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 1:46 PM

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https://twitter.com/Wiggle_Sport/status/1193860975197331456?s=19

Wiggle (@Wiggle_Sport)

Meanwhile in Norway... https://t.co/JpacOZUVfN

▶ Play video

clear mirage Nov 11, 2019, 1:51 PM

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This what were dealing with today...

📎 20191111_085005.jpg

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:02 PM

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You call that snow @clear mirage ? 😛

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@strange vapor yeah, that was a normal week for me when I lived north

clear mirage Nov 11, 2019, 2:03 PM

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@clear ferry lol first one of the season... were expecting 3-5" tonight. The fun part is dealing with the people who forget how to drive in it.

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:04 PM

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I just plowed here, was over the tires of the wife's SUV 😛

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📎 JPEG_20191111_142753.jpg

clear mirage Nov 11, 2019, 2:08 PM

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nice. Yea i know ill have to do some shoveling when i go home at lunch. my driveway is uphill and my car doesnt like going up it in this weather.

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:09 PM

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Hates going uphill? Is your car Danish?

clear mirage Nov 11, 2019, 2:09 PM

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lol no its actually a 2014 Impala. just doesnt like it when theres snow

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Lol muricans cars

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I've driven German cars mostly the last 20 years, even going uphill slalom tracks 😛

clear mirage Nov 11, 2019, 2:17 PM

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lol the problem with the germans... they over engineer everything.. I've had this car for almost 7 years now. only 80,000 mi on it.

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:19 PM

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I drive 24k miles per year 😛

clear mirage Nov 11, 2019, 2:20 PM

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is that kilometers or miles 😉

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:22 PM

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Miles as in 24000 of them

clear mirage Nov 11, 2019, 2:27 PM

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ah. thats a lot of driving.

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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i must have the world's best front brake pads because i have over 60000 miles (96500 km) on them and they're still at 9 mm...

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:29 PM

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I drove almost 1000 miles for a job last week 😛

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@scenic radish or you never break 😛

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 2:29 PM

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my car does like to engine brake, so i'm sure that's part of it

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:30 PM

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On modern German cars the pads are used constantly to keep the discs dry during wet weather, so they usually have only lasted 40k km for me

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 2:30 PM

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@clear ferry The last time there was snow in Ireland, the only reason I wasn't snowed in was that I live in Horse Country, and the army were bought in to clear the road to where the main horse feed supplier is.

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:30 PM

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😂

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Other than that, there was a few feet of snow on the road, and we Irish don't understand what to do with tha!

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I'm very close to The Curragh, and funnily enough, it didn't get too much snow. All the snow was blown off it and formed snow drifts against people's houses in Kildare town 😄

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 2:32 PM

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you're gonna trigger atx by saying "feet" instead of "meters" 😉

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:32 PM

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angryboi

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 2:32 PM

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or is it "metres"?

clear mirage Nov 11, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Yea i havent done anything on my brakes in 80K althought i think i might due soon. @strange vapor sounds like what happens in the southern states. They get a dusting and everything comes to standstill.

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 2:33 PM

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@scenic radish Only this year that I got a car that gave me my speed in km/h rather than mph 😄

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:33 PM

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@scenic radish reminds me of this https://youtu.be/jNqfVI09qmo

YouTube

FrankEpiczOfficial

Star Wars: Car Sales Spoof (Full Screen)

Obi wan buys himself a ride..

▶ Play video

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 2:34 PM

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@scenic radish It's not too surprising. Until recently, if you wanted a second hand car with a decent spec in Ireland, you imported from the UK.

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 2:34 PM

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"how much is this ship?" lmao

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 2:34 PM

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My last car, a Passat, had a spec that they simply never sold here 😦

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:34 PM

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@strange vapor I was mindficked the year I rented a car in the Republic and drove to Northern, and the rental only had kmh, and northern only has miles ThinkEyes

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 2:35 PM

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@strange vapor interesting, i had no idea

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but i'm also from the US 😛

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 2:37 PM

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I remember when they changed the speed signed from imperial to metric here. It was done over the course of month, and it was a mindfuck.

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 2:37 PM

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goodness...

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i can't even imagine

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Especially if driving through a town and you had someone sticking to 30kph just in case

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(30mph areas went to 50kph)

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@scenic radish If you want a real good example of a traffic changeover: http://realscandinavia.com/this-day-in-history-swedish-traffic-switches-sides-september-3-1967/

REAL SCANDINAVIA

Annika / Real Scandinavia

This Day in History: Swedish Traffic Switches Sides - September 3,...

You've heard of D-Day, but have you ever heard of Dagen H (Swedish for H Day)? H stands for Högertrafikomläggningen, or the Right-Hand Traffic Diversion. On Sunday, September 3, 1967, Sweden changed from driving on the left-hand side of the road to driving on the right. As ...

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 2:39 PM

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pulled over
"do you know how fast you were going?"
"I KNOW NOTHING"

clear mirage Nov 11, 2019, 2:40 PM

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"I know Nothing!! Nothing! I wasn't even driving!

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a couple years ago i was going over to canada and when i crossed the border i just went int my setting and switched from imperial to metric.

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 2:42 PM

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i have analog gauges so i'd have to squint at the tiny km/h numbers

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:43 PM

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@strange vapor you will never best the Swedes anyway

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They drove in the left with right hand drive cars for years

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Then just switched at 1200 on a Monday

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 2:44 PM

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@strange vapor i can't even imagine switching from imperial to metric, much less switching sides of the damn road

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Noob @scenic radish

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My wife freaks out wherever we do a rental in the UK

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 2:45 PM

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I didn't make this choice.

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:45 PM

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But I love it 😛

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 2:45 PM

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Metric makes way more sense, I'd rather use that

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Remember to vote metric at the next general election @scenic radish

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 2:46 PM

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@scenic radish I regularly switch the side of the road I drive on when I head to the US or EU Continent.

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 2:47 PM

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at this point i don't even know how i'd learn metric. all i know is that 1 ounce is about 30 mL

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0 C is freezing, 10 is cool, 20 is warm, 30 is hot

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:47 PM

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https://images.app.goo.gl/i1Tc5aHxL6ioYjxm9

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 2:47 PM

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i am aware

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:48 PM

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😂

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I love that chart

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 2:48 PM

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tbh i really don't think M/D/Y is that bad

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but imperial is ridiculous

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 2:49 PM

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As soon as you have to deal with Time and Date progmatically, the M/D/Y thing is a pain.

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 2:49 PM

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well yeah

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some software i use at work expresses months as 201911 which is brilliant because as a number you can directly compare months as greater than or less than

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same with 20191111

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Yeah, we do that for firmware

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It makes a lot of sense

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 2:50 PM

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At work we force ISO 8601 for every date.

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 2:50 PM

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although in SQL i still have to use BETWEEN with the date strings

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because the tables don't have an ISO 8601 date field

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not exactly a big deal but still

clear mirage Nov 11, 2019, 2:52 PM

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at work when we get prints in metric, i jsut divide by 25.4

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 2:53 PM

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@scenic radish We generally use ISO 8601 for input, but store as a UTC timestamp.

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 2:53 PM

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ah i suppose that makes sense

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also all this typing in yaml makes me want to use the same spacing in SSMS lol

clear mirage Nov 11, 2019, 2:55 PM

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the best part is when we get prints in that are in spanish or german.

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Easier as well to convert for clients, especially when we have clients spotted all over the globe.

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 2:55 PM

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oh UTC time you mean?

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yeah just add/subtract the modifier (or whatever it's called) for your region

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:56 PM

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United States time coordinated

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excellent

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 2:56 PM

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lol

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 2:57 PM

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kronk

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Nice, it is going to rain tomorrow

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That can get interesting LennyThink

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 3:01 PM

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https://play.google.com/music/m/Ttqfxss6wi5av7vqhdiastauh5i?t=Clint_Eastwood_-_Gorillaz

Clint Eastwood - Gorillaz

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Gorillaz has a lot of cool bass lines

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Meh, I need to call Amazon

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My kindle is connected to a email I no longer have, and I have a good collection of books there

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Phone is obviously the only choice to fix it as far as I can see

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https://i.redd.it/hf4fmtxia2y31.jpg

light trout Nov 11, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Finally

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 3:28 PM

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@light trout let's go to the us

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And gorge on food

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 3:41 PM

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It's about time

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I will say though, the impossible Whopper is surprisingly good

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That's burger King, or hungry Jack's for some

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 3:42 PM

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Cheerwine MonkaSadRain

light trout Nov 11, 2019, 3:42 PM

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that can't be possible

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 3:42 PM

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heh

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 3:42 PM

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OKTrump

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 4:30 PM

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📎 BdaW8pxnNgN-png__700.jpg

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Seems legit

boreal pewter Nov 11, 2019, 4:35 PM

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You know the hassle when you leech a 260GB series with 1MB/s

velvet isle Nov 11, 2019, 4:43 PM

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Too all the veterans here. Thank you for your service.

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 5:01 PM

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smugpooh

mental garden Nov 11, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Where can I go to get help with the WireGuard addon?

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 6:28 PM

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#330990055533576204 would be a good place to start

mental garden Nov 11, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Thanks, I wasn't sure if that was appropriate or not.

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 6:31 PM

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📎 unknown.png

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 6:34 PM

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liek if u cry everytiem

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 8:10 PM

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I think I just had a lucky escape with parking. Was in a rush this morning and forgot to pay on my phone while running to the train. Parking was tight enough that I was within inches of the cars either side.

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Realised when getting on the train home I'd forgotten 😦

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Got to the station, and it looks very much like the guy clamping went for easier targets as he was at the more open side of the station unclamping people 🙂

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 8:42 PM

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damn, they put a boot on your car if you don't pay for parking? we just get a ticket

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 8:42 PM

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Yup!

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 8:44 PM

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so they force you to park there illegally even longer? that makes sense lol

clever mortar Nov 11, 2019, 8:44 PM

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Here at the train station you get a please don't do that sticker at most

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Mind you, we also don't pay 😛

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 8:44 PM

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slap on the wrist

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so your station makes DHCP reservations

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 8:45 PM

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The company running the parking are a shower of arreholes who do everything they can to punish you if you screw up once. They force you to install an app to pay, but won't do nice things like send a notification if your parking is running out..

clever mortar Nov 11, 2019, 8:45 PM

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The concept of having to pay for parking at the train station... wouldn't survive up here 😄

scenic radish Nov 11, 2019, 8:45 PM

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@strange vapor's assigns static IPs

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 8:48 PM

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@clever mortar Unfortunately survives very well here, and you can guess how much of the parking fee goes into upgrading facilities :/

clever mortar Nov 11, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Yeah

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I've a colleague who pays more for parking than I do for my train journey

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That's... just broken

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 8:49 PM

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It's not quite that bad here.

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Stations along the commuter lines are beginning to fill up fast in the morning though, which is causing knock on problem with people abandoning cars in surrounding housing estates.

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Too expensive to live in Dublin, so the commuter towns are filling up!

clever mortar Nov 11, 2019, 8:51 PM

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Yeah, I used to live somewhere like that - if you weren't at the station by 06:30... you're not getting parked, so all the surrounding streets end up residents only (and costing the residents)

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Next village over they instituted max 2 hour parking outside the train station. Took bringing in tow trucks to removing cars a couple of days before people copped on that they were serious.

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Now there's a cottage industry with people who have a spare driveway space during the day 😄

clever mortar Nov 11, 2019, 8:54 PM

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Everybody wins 👍

strange vapor Nov 11, 2019, 8:54 PM

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To be fair, it was needed. Local businesses were screwed as no one could park there during the day.

clear ferry Nov 11, 2019, 9:39 PM

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https://i.redd.it/miudhzw0z2y31.jpg

rare plover Nov 11, 2019, 11:44 PM

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/twilio-str-object-has-no-attribute-body-error-message/141190 So I was searching and found someone with this same issue. I know how to "make it not throw the error" but im not confident that's the right choice (maybe twilio is sending bad webhook data?) and wanted to make some kind of "Comment" on the code in github https://github.com/home-assistant/home-assistant/blob/dev/homeassistant/components/cloud/utils.py but I have no idea how to even do that. Anyone want to hand hold me through best practices of github?

Home Assistant Community

Twilio str object has no attribute body error message

I am getting this error with my Twilio integration, however my integration is receiving and delivering my text messages correctly or as expected. I feel it is a bug but want to know if it is. Also I am on still the Home Assistant version 0.98.1 2019-10-06 22:35:38 ERROR (Ma...

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home-assistant/home-assistant

:house_with_garden: Open source home automation that puts local control and privacy first - home-assistant/home-assistant

hushed basalt Nov 12, 2019, 3:22 AM

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@strange vapor is PHP really that bad

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A few people I know rave about laravel but who knows

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All I know is Python :(

clear ferry Nov 12, 2019, 5:40 AM

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I dabbled in php

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20 years ago

strange vapor Nov 12, 2019, 7:22 AM

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@hushed basalt It's a lot better these days, but I worked in shared hosting at the height of PHP4 and PHP5 which has forever tainted PHP in my view. Two words to strike fear: Register Globals

hushed basalt Nov 12, 2019, 7:35 AM

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Shared hosting sounds like a nightmare

clear ferry Nov 12, 2019, 7:37 AM

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Working with other people

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angryboi

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Sharing something

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angryboi

strange vapor Nov 12, 2019, 7:39 AM

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The biggest problem with shared hosting is that universal rule: The less someone pays for something the more they expect.

light trout Nov 12, 2019, 7:46 AM

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True, you can validate that statement with this discord server and our forum...

hushed basalt Nov 12, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Can u pls develop a plugin for me to automate my parrot with my lights, when it rains. And I also want the parrot to call my dog when the sun is having a solar flare and my wife hasn't been home for 4 hours

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Kthnxbai

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I'm still waiting

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🐸

obtuse topaz Nov 12, 2019, 8:03 AM

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It's very hard to get parrot integration going, since there are so many parrot models each supporting different features and endpoints

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Better to just use a nodemcu to simulate hardware control on the parrot, quite janky but should work

clear ferry Nov 12, 2019, 9:47 AM

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📎 IMG_20191112_104704_751.jpg

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New radio, who dis?

scenic radish Nov 12, 2019, 2:21 PM

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@hushed basalt my favorite one here is seeing the person send another message saying "anyone?????" five minutes after sending their original message

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as though everyone who can answer the question is pinged and compelled to open discord and answer

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@clear ferry very nice, but why is it off-center? 🤔

clear ferry Nov 12, 2019, 2:35 PM

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📎 IMG_20191112_104704_747.jpg

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@scenic radish because the original one is like that too

scenic radish Nov 12, 2019, 2:36 PM

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ah interesting... so you've got a little nook for... things

clear ferry Nov 12, 2019, 2:36 PM

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yeah, but with the new one the space is used for the adapter from custom to iso

naive flume Nov 12, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Hi everyone

strange vapor Nov 12, 2019, 2:42 PM

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@clear ferry What kind of lopsided car is that? 🙂

clear ferry Nov 12, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Volvo V70 2005 🤣

wet pilot Nov 12, 2019, 3:03 PM

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do you drive on the right side of the road or the wrong side there?