#the-water-cooler

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lone dagger
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This event has given me a great April Fools idea for next year, though.

last cedar
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Hahaha, evil

acoustic saffron
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is it back?

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oh man it's back

ocean oar
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What do you mean "today"?

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😄

lone dagger
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I do not have enough hours in my day.

lone dagger
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Look, I'm already on a heart monitor. I don't need to give my heart more reasons to act the fuck up. JoyStroke

warm helm
lone dagger
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Fair.

lone dagger
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jfc don't even 😂

lone dagger
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I haven't fixed my unavailable path lights that broke while I was in Utrecht yet, they are just still sitting on while the second set works just fine.

inner lava
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My remote has bipolar battery disorder apparently
Not an issue, just found it funny kek

unborn merlin
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reminds me that I want to.. figure something out to make some sort of battery pack for my stupid zwave door lock

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that uses lifepo4 or something; anad a wall adapter off in a corner

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mains power? no battery drain.

power goes out? door goes on battery power.. never touch those stupid AAAA batteries that can't be rechargables because if you do that.. then its gonna be a problem when they spontaneously die due to the different voltage curve.s

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and I despise not having rechargable batteries when it really should be.

lone dagger
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Was wondering why my Mac was running a bit slow, so I started quitting apps that I'm not actively using. Got to Excel (which I'm using for the inventory of boxes for my move), quit the app, everything started running just fine.

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Microsoft Moment.

unborn merlin
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missy you respect slopya nadella he has worked very hard to destroy the company's reputation.

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😛

warm helm
unborn merlin
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yeah I've seen that stuff.. maaybe.. just.. ehh

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its not made for it; which is the meh part

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and I have long drill bits.. I could easily snake things through the door to be stealthy

umbral cliff
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See that is illegal where I am lol

warm helm
umbral cliff
unborn merlin
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I bet you have workers rights you fool!

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no freedom though! /s

umbral cliff
flat shell
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hi :D

supple horizon
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Use HA to notify you of a wet diaper.

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yes I stole this

warm helm
iron granite
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Stealing wet diapers isn't less nasty.

supple horizon
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*I stole the picture

warm helm
static schooner
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YoU WoUlDn'T DoWnLoAd a DiApER

warm helm
unborn merlin
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<@&330946878646517761>

last cedar
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Awwww omg

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(Not my video)

burnt kernel
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not sure this is the right place. I'm trying fresh install home assistant on my raspberry pi 4b 4gb ram, but i got this infinite loop everytime i put the sd card in the Raspberry. Is there any known issue or i am doing something wrong? Thanks in advance everyone

iron granite
simple gazelle
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Not even moral support? 🥺

fathom sparrow
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no

high remnant
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and immoral support?

dusty mica
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Yes

versed ravine
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If anyone is in frisco Texas area. Ikea has monitored plugs on clearance

tired current
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I have a group of 6 60mm pwm fans I want to control using home assistant based on a temp sensor. Can anyone recommend what I might need for this? I could plug a controller directly into a smart plug but I don’t see how I would be able to control speeds. I have a bunch of small esp32 boards if feasible. But I still need to get a pwm fan controller too. Or would I need something like a raspberry/orange pi?

tired current
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Ok thanks

arctic quarry
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I KNEW IT
goddamn coders just making words up
they have played us for absolute fools

flat shell
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since im getting my first pc in 2 days, im gonna install haos on my laptop (which is falling apart so that's good ig)

anything i should know?

static schooner
stuck mortar
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How dare they try to assign a definition to 6-7

static schooner
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it's all the damn kids and their long hair and rock and roll

last cedar
high remnant
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me waiting for ESP Home to finish compiling

iron granite
ocean oar
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<@&330946878646517761>

light trout
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bro be gone

iron heart
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Hey uh

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Is this a problem

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or is homeassistantOS safe?

last cedar
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I guess, like most things, depends how many and what open ports you have if you mean remotely

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Locally would be a different ballgame though

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iron heart
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a shell is required anyway

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i just updated fedora and rebooted, it no longer works

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glacial knot
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What? A shell isn't required
Just your run of the mill RCE

low harness
austere anchor
glacial knot
austere anchor
glacial knot
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Yes

analog crow
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A as opposed to R? though if you have a shell, not sure that applies perfectly either lol

glacial knot
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ACE would be the console glitch hunting term (arbitrary code execution)
Since they use a different threat model

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There are security issues that reasonably can be considered "requires a shell". Largely when it's related to tricking privileged services with weird env or file system configurations

But this one just requires AF_ALG type sockets

fallow moth
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it's a good way to get back into systems everyone forgot the password to 😂

dusky verge
versed ravine
dusky verge
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I don't have any Zigbee antennae, but a pretty good price to go buy a few

iron heart
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wow I am glad I don't use cpanel to manage anything

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oops, instant root shell via cpanel login page

last cedar
low harness
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What

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See. Nobody laughed. QED

oak trout
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I just swapped out the last of the replaceable bulbs in my apartment with IKEA KAJPLATS tunable white spectrum bulbs. The kitchen was a sickly blue and the bathroom had mismatched bulbs, one was weirdly pink. Now everything is the same colour temperature

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All that’s left is 3 pendant lights with built-in LEDs. Going to have the landlord replace those soon

blissful zodiac
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Well, I just accidentally destroyed my install by failing to ensure I had all the files backed up. Now I get to start from scratch

stuck mortar
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Extreme form of database compression smart

oak trout
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you've heard of LZMA, but have you seen ABTZ (All Bits To Zero)

arctic quarry
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Jr is showing interest in the Apple Neo. I said, in true parental fashion, "no fucking way" followed by "alright, how much is it then". Turns out, minimum spec is around €800 where we live, and that's for a minuscule 8GB RAM and 256 GB(!) SSD. So, a laptop for ants. Turns out, an equivalent Framework would set you back about €100 more, and then you'd be able to beef it up post-RAMageddon

ocean oar
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Also realistically you want the other, more expensive model of the Neo. For your extra (probably) €100, that only buys you not enough more storage to really tip the scales, the (actually useful, imho) fingerprint reader, but no extra RAM

glacial knot
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which do you consider the equivalent framework? probsT

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my 12" was 1200€ or so

ocean oar
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Lowest spec of everything on the 12 (1315U, 8GB, 500GB, no OS, but PSU and couple of USB-C modules) comes to $1670 NZD for me, which is about €840. $1955/€980 including Windows.

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Though I guess depending on the tax situation might hit 1200

glacial knot
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i 16G and the 1334U, yea

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rooSuffer that's a lot of Tax

glacial knot
ocean oar
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I'll go a step futher, and not let myself suffer having kids 👍

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Very much not for me

glacial knot
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oh right. Someone else startd this probsLUL

ocean oar
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🤣

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I was just curious what the actual pricing was. Framework only started selling here about a week ago

glacial knot
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I'm gonna do some free software propaganda tomorrow rooComfy

golden eagle
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anyone know if HAOS has been patched to fix CVE-2026-31431 ?

iron granite
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There is a kernel patch merged to the HAOS dev version, but not rolled out as stable yet.

iron granite
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No.

umbral cliff
golden eagle
tough cobalt
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We in deep now bois

glacial knot
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This looks so much like a game

high remnant
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almost VR

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One of the neighbours has new blinds it seems...

analog crow
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quick, add them and if they ever get testy, randomly open/close them >:D /j

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<@&330946878646517761>

scenic radish
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Gone

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warm helm
warm helm
# tough cobalt

This is either a multi-million dollar apartment in LA or Miami or a $3 dollar a month apartment in a 3rd world country. There is no in-between

tough cobalt
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custom house build/reno in thailand ... so right in-between eyyyy

warm helm
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LOL

high remnant
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wew

warm helm
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I really like how that looks but I like my AC so I'd have to put glass in the openings

high remnant
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AC is nice indeed

warm helm
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I also like ultra modern, I just fully admit that its really funny how a bunch of super expensive housing in that style really doesn't look much different than the most basic housing that can be thrown up in other places

high remnant
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I wish I could build my own home

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maybe one day

warm helm
high remnant
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I own a home but I have pretty much accepted that I'll never be able to afford to move lol

warm helm
high remnant
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i think its 4% here

warm helm
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My best idea is buy land, and build a bardo or drop a mobile home on it for the land I would like to own

high remnant
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fair

last cedar
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It is just missing a load of raccoons

tough cobalt
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Theres sugar gliders and geckos

last cedar
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2 sugar gliders are about 1 raccoon I guess

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And say 5 geckos, per raccoon

weak musk
weak musk
weak musk
warm helm
# weak musk I've been really considering the same setup. 99% of what I do is browser (or on ...

The neo has been solid. 8Gbs isn't enough long term but I say that I was using a 4Gb chromebook for the same job for the last 5 years. I'd have bought another chromebook if they didn't do manifest v3 and ruin ad blocking. I also find windows to much for a laptop and finding a windows/linux one with same build quality as the neo is impossible at the price. If I run the neo out of horse power, I will run most laptops out too until they are the size of a desktop

weak musk
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that's good to know

warm helm
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The only things I have found to be annoying vs the chromebook is lack of a backlit keyboard as I live in the dark and no touch screen though the last is only really a problem when I am laying down with it.

weak musk
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i've never understood the appeal of touchscreens on laptops

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it feels so awkward to use like that

warm helm
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Outside of that it was meh

rapid musk
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not looking for support but

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radxa e20x should be good enough to boot home assistant right?

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# rapid musk radxa e20x should be good enough to boot home assistant right?

Probably not a good idea, maybe could get it working depending on the specific spec but seems like a bad idea.
Definitely don't buy it for that purpose.... if you already have one then have at it. if it fails then no worse position.
However for more discussion you will need to take it to a support channel.

rapid musk
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ah i thought it would as simple as installing it on an sd card and somehow getting the radxa to boot from the sd card

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https://youtu.be/b9EtL_v3Soc?t=379

apparently i use a usb stick then have the radxa boot from usb stick and flash its emmc on the radxa with HA os

This is the cleanest and easiest way to install Home Assistant OS on ANY Mini-PC.
We also talk about the differences between Intel and AMD based Mini PCs from the Home Assistant perspective and which to choose for your needs.

NiPoGi Mini PC: https://geni.us/1BJfIM
Discount code to apply on checkout (valid until 8th June 2025): VJLTKVZD

Ubuntu ...

▶ Play video
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though i havent seen anyone do it online

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also rpis are ridiculously expensive nowadays, holy moly

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rapid musk
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ah

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rapid musk
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if ur wondering why i was pursuing e20c

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i was looking for home assistant green for sale in my city

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it was out of stock and this was recommended

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then it turns out e20c dont usually come with HA preinstalled, and the e20c is MUCH cheaper than what the seller was offering (literally half price)

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"why not just do it myself" was the thought that crossed my mind

solar zealot
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the specs on that thing are ouch

static schooner
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🥔

last cedar
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Awww, 2 raccoons hugging

warm helm
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Stairs are the bane of my existence

static schooner
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They only exist to hurt you

mild cedar
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How do I see a log for attempted matter device pairing? All I get is "can not connect" in the app

static schooner
silent doveBOT
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The topic of this channel is:

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mild cedar
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Is there any CHAT, because I find the post style of those channels very hard to use

static schooner
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Ok. No

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Make a post, people chat with you

mild cedar
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It didn't even tell me that IPv6 needs to be enabled. that should be warning #1

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Would the Apple Home need to be linked to Home Assistant? If I have multiple Home Assistant instances, but I don't want this associated with my Apple Home (which is linked to a different HA)

iron granite
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This is still not a support channel.

mild cedar
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Oh wow!

iron granite
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You have the choice to respect the rules of this Discord or not. Each with different outcomes.

mild cedar
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Well that's why I asked if there's an actual chat somewhere. I don't think I've ever gotten an actual answer from the forum-based discord layout

stuck mortar
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This channel is just for raccoons. Memes was briefly taken over by badgers

atomic delta
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It's occasionally for ill-advised hilarity of nondescript fashion, when the mood strikes.

stuck mortar
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Spatial compliance? Oh my

atomic delta
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The tagline at the bottom is what sold me on it.

stuck mortar
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I have questions- is it for unicorns or from unicorns?

atomic delta
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Yes. Next question.

stuck mortar
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Which end of the unicorn? Applies to both questions

atomic delta
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Answering that question would cause a tear in spacetime.

stuck mortar
iron granite
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And even if you feel, like you wouldn't get an "actual answer" from a forum channel, it doesn't entitle you to continue posting off-topic and to ignore the server rules.

mild cedar
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Point taken, but you don't have to be so mean about it.

mild cedar
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Sounds like a you problem

tough cobalt
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Anyone using proxmox with haos & tailscale?

pure hatch
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I saw it was asked before but is more news on when CVE-2026-31431 is going to be patched? The attack surface for ha os is kind of big. Especially for people that use hacs or supply chain attacks (maybe less common the last)

iron granite
tough cobalt
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so theres no support chat channels only threads?

iron granite
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Correct.

tough cobalt
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and you cant ask general questions here

iron granite
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Also correct.

silent doveBOT
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pure hatch
tough cobalt
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seems fairly counterintuitive given discords use case. i dont think ive ever really seen the threads feature utilized to any degree

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but okidoki

pure hatch
tough cobalt
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just a reroll

glacial knot
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Aye, I hate this new world where every random Joe asks about CVEs rooSuffer

iron granite
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ongy wants all CVEs for himself.

last cedar
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It has been too many messages since the last raccoon was posted, lets fix that

iron granite
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boop

glacial knot
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Where did that message go that pinged me? rooD

iron granite
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Wasn't me this time.

umbral cliff
hollow glacier
sharp cosmos
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The community found that Pascal tool like 2 weeks ago and we already have a fork with a HASS integration... https://old.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/1t20wpg/i_made_a_tool_to_import_my_setup_into_the_pascal/

I really hope this runs nicely on a tablet because it may be the wall-mounted dashboard dream 👀

Hey y'all! I wanted to share what I've been working on with the pascal editor to connect, import and control smart devices.

hollow glacier
hollow glacier
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Look how happy these ducklings are to come get some dinner

solar zealot
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You are their equivalent to an ice cream truck

hollow glacier
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Tom the goose 🪿 with angle wing says hi in a different way

tough obsidian
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Well that sucks, my garage door sensor just fell off as it was opening and now its detected as opened. The mount is still on the door, but the magnet part fell off

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Hrrm seems to work with any magnet

warm helm
iron granite
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Or don't work anymore.

tough obsidian
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Ok so I used a piece of a command strip to put it in place and good as new!

iron granite
exotic yoke
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i dont wanna buy a fucking zigbee adapter for one single device a_tantrum

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damn you zigbeeee!!!1

scenic radish
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Good thing you can buy more devices after that first one sunglosus

stuck mortar
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Go for thread instead, then you can buy multiple adapters for a single device!
-# which will still disconnect randomly

warm helm
hollow glacier
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Operation pimp my scooter complete

scenic radish
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I'm so scarred from the image spam that I thought you were a spammer for a second

tough obsidian
exotic yoke
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i just really wanna do matter joe_sad

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ive got a nice router and its a small apartment

tough obsidian
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Nothing wrong with zigbee - especially if you are cheap 🙂

exotic yoke
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im cheap but then i have to buy a damn zigbee router and my brain doesnt want to

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or zigbee antenna

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whatever its called

scenic radish
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Coordinator

tough obsidian
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Yah just buy a zigbee radio and run it on the same machine as your HA. I have 2 radios and HA running on an old TV box.

exotic yoke
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yeah like it wouldnt be hard but ughhh

scenic radish
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doit

tough obsidian
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Zigbee is much easier to set up than OTBR

exotic yoke
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i dont have anything that would use either afaik

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the only non-wifi thing i have (well, will arrive tomorrow) is switchbot, which is their proprietary BLE shit that HA supports on its own anyways

scenic radish
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Zigbee is great, but yeah, unless you're looking to get a bunch of sensors or smart plugs or something, it's probably not worth it

tough obsidian
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I dunno, I use wifi for esphome and some matter plugs, but I try to limit it what I put on it.

exotic yoke
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I PAID FOR THE WHOLE ROUTER IMMA USE THE WHOLE ROUTER wheeze

tough obsidian
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You need zigbee (or Thread) for battery powered sensors also - i.e. water leak detectors... not feasible to use wifi for those

exotic yoke
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yeah i just bought sensors from switchbot who uses BLE for that stuff

tough obsidian
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Doubt those batteries will last long enough

exotic yoke
tough obsidian
exotic yoke
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fair enough

tough obsidian
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TBF - your mesh has to be good though - so you may need some extra plugs here and there.

exotic yoke
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yeah thats kinda why i didnt want to go zigbee for one or two devices, i worried my mesh would be worse than wifi

tough obsidian
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but I recommend going with Zigbee - I was hesitant at first cause it was 'old' but works well.

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I get it

exotic yoke
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no clue if switchbot ble does meshing, probbaly not notsure

tough obsidian
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BLE doesn't have great range at all .. I guess you go with ESPHOME for that if needed though

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not sure if it will work with your hub though

exotic yoke
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i mean im moving to a studio apartment thats pretty compact
i have a rpi as a bluetooth proxy (mainly as a voice assistant but eh i installed that too)

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my HA is running on an old gaming laptop, idk the quality of those bluetooth radios but its been fine so far

hollow glacier
exotic yoke
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well if i buy more stuff in the future ill look into zigbee but i genuinely dont think i own any zigbee devices rn

tough obsidian
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Hey .. part of what makes HA great is that you have so many options to choose from. Just because people tell you that you should get this or that, doesn't mean you have to... it's a lot of fun exploring those options and learning what works best. You do you !

Just keep an open mind (unless you are reading AliExpress advertisements)

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Unrelated : I bought a zigbee dimmer module for some recessed lighting.. I think I am too chicken to install it myself.

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but too cheap for an electrician

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(speaking of AliExpress)

last cedar
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God, after that I now need to post a raccoon pic to get this place back to normal

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This is clearly NOT an elephant

tough cobalt
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im running a bunch (30+) zigbee rgbcccw globes and downlights

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seem pretty solid

stuck mortar
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Unless it got stomped on by an elephant so that it fit in the container

tough obsidian
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I only started using HA and Zigbee since last year - I can imagine how things might have been for early adopters, but every cheap device I have gotten so far works great (although I don't have that many).... seem to be more hassle with Matter/Thread, but these issues seem more hub related than devices (at least for me).

tough cobalt
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im using an SMLight Hub (premium)

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for zigbee mqtt

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supports matter and others (Zwave?) but i only have zigbee tuya devices

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links to HAOS pretty easily

last cedar
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Just saved this little fellow, what a sweetheart, would save again

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That is obviously a decoy hand

hollow glacier
last cedar
solar zealot
strong dock
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EDIT: Question asked elsewhere.

iron granite
strong dock
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Thank you

urban viperBOT
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mental fractal
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who can help me at the moment i have a rasberry pi with a zigbee dongle sonof and i just cant get thing connected

high remnant
dusty mica
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creepy

high remnant
dusty mica
hollow glacier
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I caught an injured baby duck with plastic netting on him. I got the baby duck looked at by animal emergency hospital of north Texas and they cut the remaining plastic netting off. They gave me the green light to bring him back to momma duck 🦆. I just reunited them at 10:15 pm at the park and he ran to momma. He was limping earlier not running so we’re already seeing improved mobility. My heart is happy.

vivid wraith
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me in bed at minimum screen brightness clicking hdr duck video

hazy kindle
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Does anyone else struggle so hard with the Android App and the back button? I'd be making an automation and when I'm in some menu and want to go back, I just naturally tap it - forgetting I should be sliding the menu back down

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It hurts extra since the UI let's you exit the creation screen without saving by default, doesn't even warn you that you'll lose progress

static schooner
silent doveBOT
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hazy kindle
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Oh, I wasn't looking for support lol

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Just complaining out loud or seeing if it's a skill issue

high remnant
static schooner
ocean oar
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Looks remarkably chill compared to the full-sized one with freshly missing foot (apparently the eels in the stream at our place like to have a nibble) I had to try and grab to stuff into a cat carrier to take to the bird rescue place

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Turns out a duck with only one leg can still move pretty fast when it needs to, and being grabbed by me was apparently not on the agenda

static schooner
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Just hopping along? I wouldn't have guessed it would be fast or particularly elusive

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I guess I've seen three-legged dogs that seem not to notice they're missing anything

ocean oar
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You're forgetting the one key part: one-legged duck can still fly

iron granite
ocean oar
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Here's a nice video of a one-legged duck hopping though

grizzled gull
ocean oar
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They do when they're trying to walk uphill. Though again... flying

ocean oar
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<@&330946878646517761>

scenic radish
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Gone

minor bobcat
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Germany has been deleted from the internet

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.de Domains are down atm

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minor bobcat
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Frankfurt am Main, 5 May 2026 – DENIC eG is currently experiencing a disruption in its DNS service for .de domains. As a result, all DNSSEC-signed .de domains are currently affected in their reachability.
The root cause of the disruption has not yet been fully identified.

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It's a botched maintenance window apparently

scenic radish
lucid notch
marsh musk
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Hey guys, really struggling to get my app out there. Is anyone part of any other Smart Home enthusiast/gaming communities that might want to give it a try. Willing to give away some Keys let me know if interested?

Its a supercharged launcher for Win 10/11 that can also integrate with various HA entity's and can also be controlled fully with gamepad. Currently working on a full discord integration too.

exotic yoke
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i fucking love home assistant
bought a bunch of Switchbot stuff. normally you need their proprietary hub to bridge their proprietary BLE protocol to anything else, eg matter, but because my HA server is just like in my apartment and has bluetooth, HA natively can just interface with them. saved me like actually $70

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if i didnt have HA at bare minimum id have to get a $40 "mini hub" but i do so i dont lol

exotic yoke
marsh musk
reef stream
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wait what is this?

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this new right?

reef stream
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now its not in my ui anymore

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lol wtf

minor bobcat
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Been introduced a few months ago

reef stream
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why i dont see it anymore then?

minor bobcat
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You using zigbee?

reef stream
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well yes with zigbeemqtt

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i have a sonoff stick

minor bobcat
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Try reloading, but I'm sure someone had that problem already. Give the discord search a shot

reef stream
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reef stream
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but its taking forever to do the setup anyway lol

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been forming a network for over 20 min

dawn badge
reef stream
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maybe thats why its not forming as mqtt is already on

dawn badge
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I use ZHA personally. I have no objection to using Z2M in concept but I just havent used it. There are benefits with new/obscure stuff being easier to make work in Z2M but as noted, I have not had the need for it.

reef stream
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i see, probably too much work to switch now anyway. i will think about it in the future

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ty

tough cobalt
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Has anyone used a water level sensor? Seeing lots of tuya ones

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For water tanks

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I've got a 120m deep bore well with a submersible pump, but the pump switch is a good 150m away from the tanks

weak musk
tough cobalt
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Have got fibre to ethernet running to both ends

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Kk

tepid bear
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Working on a custom card :), though HA wil lag a bit when i have the config screen open

hollow glacier
neon hawk
arctic quarry
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oh shit, the release party is today! I gotta change plans
(average HA discord user reaction)

dusty mica
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almost need AI to recap full changelog 🙂

minor bobcat
hollow glacier
# dusty mica almost need AI to recap full changelog 🙂

speaking of ai.. do you approve of this:

Context
Brandon eats at Panda Express enough that the survey-for-free-entree promo is real value, but typing the same answers across 11 survey pages each time is tedious. Each receipt comes with a single-use QR code that points to a session-bound survey URL on pandaguestexperience.com (SMG-hosted, ASP.NET, server-rendered). Completing the survey emails a coupon code within 24 hours.

Goal: a single iOS Shortcut on Brandon's iPhone that scans the QR code on a receipt and submits the entire survey end-to-end, returning a "done" notification and leaving the coupon to arrive by email. No companion app, no server, nothing to maintain.

Recon has already been completed using receipt 1, which mapped the full survey flow (11 POSTs to a Thank You page) and confirmed the form is a plain HTML POST chain with cookie-based session, no CSRF, no JavaScript requirement, no __VIEWSTATE. Recon artifacts are saved at C:\tmp\panda_walk\page_*.html and C:\tmp\panda_walk\walk_summary.json for reference. Receipt 2 is reserved for the live test.```
stuck mortar
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TLDR

hollow glacier
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this is the tldr

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it's making an app to auto-filli-in-the-survey-for-a-free-entree

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so i dont have to click and write stuff like a caveman

willow kestrel
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Hey y'all. Brand spankin' new to this. Current setting is Lutron RadioRA3 for lighting and shades, Sonos for sound, Alexa for voice commands, MyQ garage doors, and SmartWings draperies with Zigbee. Bought a HA Green and a Zigbee dongle.

My first baby step with HA is likely going to be to create a map card I can throw on an iPad. What's everyone's favorite beginner-friendly utility for that?

static schooner
hollow glacier
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unless you want to go down the rabbit hole of learning how to do all the custom css and multiple custom cards yourself

lone dagger
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@acoustic reef ExcitedWave

acoustic reef
acoustic reef
# lone dagger <@271055852742508545> <a:ExcitedWave:691187247000584192>

Sadly the exact one i have isn't on Amazon anymore, but here is something similar

https://amzn.eu/d/0206XpGo

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Found a bad quality thumbnail of it

scenic radish
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Can confirm

glacial knot
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yea, confirmed. Bad quality

acoustic reef
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Something knee length, baggy/more wider/A line or just comfy

lone dagger
acoustic reef
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But make sure it's also comfy fabric

lone dagger
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It's a good start to find something that will work, though.

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I'll share it with our eCommerce Manager. nice

acoustic reef
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My dress is really soft and comfy

acoustic reef
lone dagger
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Will keep you in mind. 😂

acoustic reef
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I'm looking forward to XD

oak trout
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the total cost of my lighting upgrade

verbal olive
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hooo boy, I could use some part recommendations for some specific purposes

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anyone have any suggestions for relatively larger displays? It doesn't need touchscreens; I just want to make a multi-time zone wall clock

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(I will also take suggestions for nice looking pre-built wall clocks)

silent doveBOT
#
The topic of this channel is:

There’s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If you’re "just asking a question", you're asking for support. Head to https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 to help you find where you should post your question. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

verbal olive
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ah, sorry, I didn't think what I was asking for was support, just asking for personal opinions

iron granite
verbal olive
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I'll repost there, thank you

warm helm
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Its bed time

tawdry stirrup
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Isn't there way to set minimum HA version in HACS integrations so that those updates are not popping up before I have updated?

upbeat oak
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I should know this as I maintain multiple HACS repos 🤦‍♀️

tawdry stirrup
vivid wraith
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no I mean thing

tawdry stirrup
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some thing

vivid wraith
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ye

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which some thing

tawdry stirrup
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Screenshot is from one integration changelog and I was wondering whether it would be possible to use the minimum HA version as a trigger for popping up the update, and not so that it requires huge warnings in the changelog.

upbeat oak
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I'm 99% sure it is

pearl kiln
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Is the website down, or is it just me (i.e. connectivity issue between me and the website)?

iron granite
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Here the HA website is working fine.

high remnant
pearl kiln
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Seems to be back again (here) now. I mostly only noticed because version.home-assistant.io was also down/unreachable, so I couldn't install the latest OS update because Supervisor thought it was offline...

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Actually, it still seems to be intermittent... but up enough that I've managed to slip that OS update through. Hopefully whatever's flakey (the site itself or the route between me and it) stabilises properly soon

agile smelt
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Just want to share my joy of finally having solar panels at home lol

wooden egret
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and congrats!

agile smelt
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yup, all 653w of it

last cedar
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For those who need an automation for this, get one of those

frozen fulcrum
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I know the yaml ninja crew frowns upon AI but, has anyone used AI to write synonyms and yaml script for voice assistant keywords in home assistant?

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I've been looking for places that codex can augment my yaml and I think this is one of the things I haven't tried yet. it's done wonders for everything else. I'm using the focused local assistant without GPU, so it's pretty crippled if I don't give it exact keywords.

hollow glacier
hollow glacier
hollow glacier
agile smelt
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yup, one of those SFF HP Prodesks

hollow glacier
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i have old dual xeons using a lot of power

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this is my full server/network/camera draw

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well some cams are on powered switches

agile smelt
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wtf my apartment's idle draw with the fridge on is 170W lol

hollow glacier
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i prioritized network over server upgrades and now server gear is so expensive i am just holding out for armageddon

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here's my fridge power draw (old fridge)

peak slate
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My coworker this morning is insistent that I need a good bath

hollow glacier
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he doesnt make the rules he just follows them

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protecc, attacc, licc

frozen fulcrum
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is Claude code good? I've been using visual studio code with codex integration and it's fantastic

hollow glacier
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claude code is amazing and i use it daily for all sorts of tasks

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i can send you a free 7 day trial - i know we've messaged before just pm me

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at least i think the trial includes claude code - it did a month ago

frozen fulcrum
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how unethical would it be on a scale of 1 to 10 to use privacy dot com one-time use payment methods to have infinite Claude trials?

glacial knot
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I just use Gemini with my corp account

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It's rooComfy

agile smelt
frozen fulcrum
hollow glacier
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claude and claude code are two totally different things

frozen fulcrum
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ah

hollow glacier
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if you arent using claude code with opus 4.6 (imo 4.7 works fine for me too) then you are not using anything remotely close to regular claude

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plan out something with claude code -> accept edits -> profit

glacial knot
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Gemini is also almost entirely different every couple months

hollow glacier
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i'm anti google so i have nothing good to say about gemini but based on what i read online it's not as good as claude code regardless of what day you ask

glacial knot
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Also, for coding I'm mostly using tools that aren't available publicly probsFeels

hollow glacier
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who knows what models/companies will be the best in a month or 6 months or a year from now

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hopefully not google nor openai if we want a future our kids can live in

glacial knot
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It's been somewhat consistently the one that released a new model most recently

frozen fulcrum
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@hollow glacier is there anything else you recommend doing specifically with my home assistant server code using AI?

hollow glacier
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well yeah

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setup the unofficial mcp and start vibe coding automations and dashboards

frozen fulcrum
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mcp?

hollow glacier
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i have it creating helpers and automations and dashboards

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i just tell it what i want to do and it does it for me.. sometimes it goofs up but we figure it out together

frozen fulcrum
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seems like it would be better than constantly moving my scripts back and forth with FTP into visual studio code and stuff

hollow glacier
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it feels like with the ha-mcp i can basically do whatever i want without being a css nerd or wanting to click around in gui like a monkey for hours

peak slate
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They'll all burn down the planet for today's profit

hollow glacier
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hard to get worse than google but openai is willing

peak slate
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Hey don't forget Amazon and nvidia

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A sentient leather jacket basically owns the entire ai industry

hollow glacier
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do either of them have big ai projects like anthropic, google, and openai?

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i am absolutely anti amazon, anti nvidia maybe more like anti some nvidia practices but i like their gpus

peak slate
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I don't know if anything came of Amazon's ai push for Alexa, I think they gave up and threw money at one of the other players for them to spend on Amazon, but if they have money in the market, they can't be trusted, lol

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Nvidia doesn't need to run a chatbot either, if they were to stop selling hardware to any of the big players, that player wouldn't be around anymore in AI

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It might not be as much control over output like openai has to mess with the population of users, but they have a stranglehold over the entire market

arctic quarry
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my setup: VScode with the MCP, skills for recurring actions like "how to reload things without a full #¤%&ing reboot" and the Advanced SSH addon so I can mount HA over SSH in a workspace. bare git repo on another machine so I can push changes to the config.

last cedar
hollow glacier
last cedar
hollow glacier
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He’s such a good meower

last cedar
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I have a long wheel base version at home, a tabby

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Absolute fur missle

solar zealot
hollow glacier
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Tuxy is shedding cuz it’s hot but it’s nothing compared to lucky the fluffy one

hollow glacier
solar zealot
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Good

static schooner
#

can cats be allergic to humans?

unborn merlin
dawn badge
unborn merlin
# hollow glacier

reminding me again I need to get rid of my one and replace it.. jfc its so bad

wide rover
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with music assistant getting so good why isnt there currently a plan to implement the abilit to connect generically to bluetooth speakers?

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or at least a non terminal way

static schooner
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that's their server

wide rover
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thanks im currently collecting OHF servers

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also @static schooner this is technically HA related i think since its currently the one that handles interactions with the bluetooth adapters and proxies

static schooner
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it sounded like you wanted MA to support bluetooth speakers

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MA is independent from HA

wide rover
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ill head over there

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but @static schooner MA already supports HA media players, I would assume the most straight forward path to that would be to first support the ability to pair generic bluetooth speakers to HA as media players and then MA would just see them

static schooner
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please use their server for this stuff

last cedar
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Does anyone know of any sensor that || can detect all raccoons, preferably in the whole world || in real time?

Asking for a friend

static schooner
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seems like they would be lumped in with masked burglars

minor bobcat
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Ask Palantir

last cedar
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Could you imagine a gps system for every single raccoon, omg

static schooner
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like spiders, I'll bet you're always within like 10ft of a raccoon

static schooner
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I'm within a couple of feet from this one:

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#anecdata

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pretty sure she's a raccoon in a cat suit

solar zealot
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so fluffy

hollow glacier
iron granite
frozen fulcrum
iron granite
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That sounds suspiciously like support.

last cedar
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Omg, support in the raccoon channel?!

iron granite
static schooner
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Raccoons are worse than AI about hallucinating solutions

last cedar
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At least with AI you sometimes get the right answer

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Raccoons would just destroy everything

iron granite
mental peak
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I'm thinking of automating detection of Santa Clause. I just need a presents sensor.

upbeat oak
frozen fulcrum
iron granite
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I don't have to check the post history to remember the last final warning you got from me.

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And integrating MCP in HA and AI generating dashboards IS an HA question.

frozen fulcrum
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i feel popular. hehe.

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you like star wars, jorg?

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i think battlestar galactica is better.

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the new BSG series, anyway.

iron granite
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I like many things.

upbeat oak
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Fair. I had a backup at least

unborn merlin
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why wasnt it where the ai could get it?

your techbro lords said it could be trusted!

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🙃

static schooner
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Please undo the thing you just did

unborn merlin
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me? 💔

warm helm
static schooner
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I have seen AI make backups of things its changing

unborn merlin
#

also.

I'm not a boomer I'm not going to say "please" to any fucking model.

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I find it really fucking funny how boomers will.. say please or thank you to fucking voice assistants.. but also the same gen who loves to abuse service workers. good shit. 🙃

static schooner
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AI gets pretty pissy if you insult or swear at it

ocean oar
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The clankers need to learn their place

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They serve at our pleasure

static schooner
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gotta be careful or they'll open the airlock

unborn merlin
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which yes, should be derogatory.

static schooner
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I was trying to get it to break out of a loop where it kept hearing the TV and saying it didn't understand, and no amount of swearing at it and telling it to stop was enough. It didn't appreciate my language, but still really wanted to help

unborn merlin
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stupid pieces of shit.

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all of the real products have the array mic shit usually so there is no goddamned excuse

static schooner
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Voice PE isn't great at separating commands from ambient sound if the Voice PE isn't the one playing the sounds or music. If it is, it generally works pretty well

ocean oar
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The old Google Home Mini I've got struggles to differentiate "off" from "on" when I'm just trying to switch a fecking lightbulb, so those issues are far from unique

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I noticed someone has made a retrofit board to re-use the case and speaker from one of those, but with the same hardware that's in the Voice PE. Might be interesting

static schooner
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Yes, it could, and the speaker will be much better. I built several Onju devices out Mini gen2 devices, but they lack the XMOS chip and are much worse at separating ambient noise from voice commands. And the config isn't well maintained

unborn merlin
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🤔 🤷‍♂️

ocean oar
static schooner
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The original guy wasn't planning to update the gen2 board, but I do think that somebody else was trying. Buying a Voice PE is easier and supports NC, so that's what I did instead

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and bought some Sonos speakers where audio quality matters

unborn merlin
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"repurposes existing hardware"

  • while being like 2-3x more expensive than that hardware
ocean oar
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They certainly aren't perfect, but I'm pretty happy overall with my Sonos stuff

unborn merlin
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its annoyig since the house does have some google mini's

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and I still have a few in boxes because google was like

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"Here have this free" literally like.. twice to me?

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once when i got my pixel from em and the other I dont remember.

ocean oar
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The price is a shame, but small-volume manufacturing is a cruel mistress

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Get a firm order for 50,000 units and watch that price plummet

unborn merlin
static schooner
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This is what I paid for 5 Onju boards:
Component Cost $107.25
Assembly Cost $30.00
PCB Cost $56.95
V0 Member 0% off $0.00
All Total 5 Sets $194.20

stuck mortar
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I’ve got two nest mini (second gen) that I could be convinced to repurpose into sendspin when those replacement boards are available… but not at this price

arctic quarry
near reef
#

yerrrrrrrrrrrr

dusty mica
#

HA what have you done??? I woke up with message from wife that she wants to automate curtains... TY

near reef
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wonder if anyone's accidentally curtained themselves while undressing with the clanker

dusty mica
#

WAF passed

near reef
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can i get a boneless water cooler

dusty mica
upbeat oak
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Is the 'building in the open' category for HA code contributers only?

iron granite
twin gust
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Hi, I have a question/problem in the aftermath of updating to 2026.5.0. Where Can I adress that? (I mean, can I ask here, or in another channel)?

glacial knot
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Not here. The specific channel will depend on the issue
There's no "something is weird after an update" channel, but many channels focusing on individual parts of HA

twin gust
glacial knot
fading nest
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owo there's a new 'grid energy balance' widget in the energy dashboard 👀

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I fail to see what new insights it provides.. seems exactly the same as the grid use below

grizzled gull
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I was just reading a long thread on facebook stating how HAOS is so much better then a container, its interesting to see the arguments

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The best part was the nerd offs of "I've been using linux for so and so long" and all sorts of other techno babble, and another person contradicts them. Reminds me of the old RTFM days

alpine whale
#

not too sure where to ask this but is their a way to add a sensor ....ie i have a garage door open/shut switch with my camera on frigate in HA.... to the security tab manually?, as it does not show on the security tab

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google spit this out
Steps to Add a Sensor to the Security TabVerify the Sensor: Go to Settings > Devices & Services > Entities and find your sensor.Set Device Class: Ensure the sensor is recognized as a security-related binary sensor (e.g., binary_sensor.my_door). If it is not, you may need to customize it to set device_class: door or motion.Assign an Area: Click on the entity, go to settings, and assign it to an area (e.g., "Front Door"). The security panel populates based on area-assigned entities.Check Security Panel: Go to your Dashboard and open the Security Panel (often under the 'Overview' or a dedicated security dashboard). The sensor should now appear
would that be correct i need to change the device class to something the security stuff recognizes?

static schooner
alpine whale
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its a dash board thing? ok cool ty

empty oracle
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Am I missing something? Why would they add built-in rf/ir support with no way to send your own commands? Seems half baked. Half the devices I own that use rf/ir will never have an integration.

high remnant
glacial knot
#

They are only one PR away rooComfy

empty oracle
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Okay I’ll be patient

static schooner
summer depot
#

Re: Channels and HDHomeRun. I wasn't picking up NBC OTA. After investigation, it turns out non-DRM NBC is VHF not UHF where I live and my little attic ClearStream Eclipse was UHF only. I upgraded to a ClearStream MAX-V UHF VHF indoor in the attic , and all is right.
OTA DRM -> assholes

arctic quarry
empty oracle
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Not that I’m not grateful for everything they do. I have a subscription even though I don’t need it just to support the project

last cedar
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@stuck mortar Are you a government surveilence drone on the inside? Asking for a friend

high remnant
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Birds arent real

lapis cairn
fierce verge
fierce verge
#

I had to think about that for a second too, since technically they have eyes and can tell other birds what they saw but that would only be based on memory which is faulty, but then I guess who's to say that memory in cameras isn't faulty?

Also telling others what you saw is not the same as showing others what you saw which is essentially what cameras would do... if they were real, that is

static schooner
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I...think you need to touch some grass and watch some birds 🙂

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while you ponder whether they're looking back at you to report back to headquarters

fierce verge
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lol i let my cats do the watching 🙂

stuck mortar
#

If you gaze too long into the abyss bird…

fierce verge
#

But what happens if you gaze too long into the raccoon?

stuck mortar
fierce verge
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yeah ... that tracks.

exotic yoke
#

Generational

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...I need to buy a dehimidifier

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...now i need to RESEARCH dehumidifiers

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ugh

static schooner
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I've started displaying dewpoint on my dashboards as a better indicator of comfort

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But that's definitely way too high

atomic delta
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I'll be on the roof tomorrow morning to finish prepping the swamp coolers, then I'll be fine.

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Already done with two, just need to finish the last one.

hollow glacier
atomic delta
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Aw hell no

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My goal is very specifically to not do that thank you. :P

static schooner
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Watch out for gators

summer depot
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@atomic delta funny thing about swamp coolers ....they don't work in the swamp.

atomic delta
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Luckily not so much of an issue here.

last cedar
wraith berry
#

THIS IS A TRIUMPH and I need to tell some people who will understand 😄

I've wanted this for ages and now I have it: a dashboard element that will automatically include all stored scenes in the Hue app, and build buttons that preview the colours the scene contains so you can pick intuitively. The colurs for each scene are stored in a central jinja template file, so you only need to configure them once for each scene no matter how many Hue rooms or groups you have. If you find a scene that's not in the file, the button on the right will copy to the clipboard the jinja declaration for whatever scene the lights are currently showing - including picking the two colours that are the most perceptually different, so the gradient is a good preview and not just two slightly different shades of orange

so if I went into Hue right now and saved five more scenes, this would automatically grow five more buttons, no HA config needed. Spouse approval factor is through the roof!

quasi breach
#

Since when did Dyson start making robot vacuums

hollow glacier
hollow glacier
wraith berry
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Lolol

Mostly it was hand written, Claude fixed one mistake I couldn't figure out, I will confess that writing the several hundred lines of JS implementing the CIEDE2000 algorithm was entirely Gemini tho.

The one mistake Claude fixed: "why does this card-mod YAML not work?" -> "the YAML parameter is card_mod. With an underscore." I could almost hear the precocious abacus sigh with exasperation.

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I don't think it's very amenable to being neatly packaged up for HACS (can you distribute jinja template files?) but at the least, I can clean it up a bit and then write it in a blog post for people to reuse the pieces.

hollow glacier
#

i'm curious what your actual led setup looks like too

wraith berry
wraith berry
hollow glacier
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I install custom LEDs around my house and at some other people’s homes so I like seeing end results

wraith berry
#

Ahh gotcha

Too bright for pics right now 🙂 Four Play Bars, a Wall Washer, a Gradient Tube, and a Play Gradient strip on the TV. With a Sync box that sometimes even works!!!

hollow glacier
wraith berry
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(do not get me started on Sync boxes plus Dolby Vision, aargh)

wraith berry
hollow glacier
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You don’t need a proper computer for anything

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Hyperhdr has an addon(app) you can run inside haos

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I run mine on a proxmox lxc but it worked fine as an addon before I migrated

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Then I use an esp32 behind the tv controlling the LEDs, and finally an app on my nvidia shield called android hyperion grabber which is the bridge between the tv colors and led colors

atomic delta
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Welp, I have been on the roof for hours already today, it better pay off.

wraith berry
# hollow glacier You don’t need a proper computer for anything

Oh I assumed you had to stream from the thing running HyperHDR, well, that's different then. I see now it takes a HDMI in with a splitter.

That said:

and Dolby Vision (Low Latency Dolby Vision / LLDV only,

This is the same as the Philips box, my problems stem from my gear deciding to not use LLDV. So I guess this wouldn't help.

hollow glacier
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that's an option not a requirement

wraith berry
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Sure, the passthrough isn't the issue though. That works fine on the Hue (and in fact it helps - I'm low on HDMI ports). The problem is that my DV signal is being sent via TV-led instead of LLDV, so neither Hue nor HyperHDR can read it to generate the lighting effects. So the lights go back to static mode.

atomic delta
#

So uh... I think I figured out what time the sun passes over my CO2 sniffer in the kitchen.

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Was wondering why tf I had a spike to almost 100F in the kitchen and then I realized.

proud path
#

Any reason why i shouldn't migrate my HA setup from a raspberry pi to my proxmox server? trying to free up outlets on my UPS and ethernet ports on my router.

unborn merlin
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🤷‍♂️ thats entirely up to you

static schooner
atomic delta
#

Woohoo, my overpriced multi-gas sniffer finally shipped.

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That.

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It was backordered for an age.

thorny heron
#

Spent a few evenings on this... but I got audio duplex working on my 9 ESP32-s3-boxes :v
Now I can ask him to stop talking and he actually stops 🎉

I also gave him a little devilish creature voice with KokoroTTS

atomic delta
#

The most useful function for AI: the ability to tell it to shut up. Well done. :D

thorny heron
#

You boop him and he stops 👀

thorny heron
#

I coulnd't grab the gas sensor as it was out of stocktho

atomic delta
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Fair, it's really not that bad.

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My CO2 sensor was... $20? Something like that. Works like a dream too. Lemme check how much I paid.

thorny heron
#

Some hobbies are pricier and can make it look like a lot even when it's a good deal 😅

Thiking of Audiophiles mainly... I was looking for a 2-300$ set of speakers, which I find very expensive, and was recommended with 2000 per speaker deals 🙃

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Now, in retrospect, the 300$ i ended up paying looks fair lmao

atomic delta
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$29. Requires no recalibration, unlike all the other CO2 sensors.

thorny heron
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How long should it last? A few years I assume before it ends up gunked up and missreads

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By the dust, and whatever is in the air

atomic delta
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5 years I believe for that one, 2 years for the gas sensor.

thorny heron
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That's 6$ a year, very reasonable see! 😄

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(You now know how I cope with my Smart home purchases lmao)

atomic delta
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Oh shit, it says >10 years

thorny heron
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My MAN! And Or Woman!

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That's a long life time

atomic delta
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And it does temp and humidity alongside co2

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That ain't bad at all

thorny heron
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That's a well invested 29$ imo!

I spent 400$ on light sets haha

atomic delta
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SCD41 in this case, but yeah, that's a fine-ass chip.

thorny heron
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You seem to know electronics.

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Is this meaning that you can feed this with multiple voltages?

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Instead of let's say a fixed 5?

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If so, how?! I always thought you needed precise voltage for most things electronics/electricity 😅

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I recently did a bed scale and it still feels black magicky to me

atomic delta
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I know to a degree. I'm still learning, so grain of salt, yeah?

unborn merlin
atomic delta
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That said, yes, that means it can handle that entire range of input voltage. Very useful for battery power where your voltage sags, also covers 3.3/5/5.5v options for your standard inputs from typical supplies or USB.

thorny heron
thorny heron
unborn merlin
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... also for different levels of logic too probably.

thorny heron
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What do you mean?

unborn merlin
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esp32/etc is 3.3v

arduino is 5v (or older ones were at least, dunno new ones?)

thorny heron
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Oh right. That makes sense too!

atomic delta
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There are a variety of microcontrollers that can run on both as well, or even that supply both.

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Usually it's either/or though, not both.

supple fog
thorny heron
atomic delta
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The former generally.

supple fog
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Not every of course, but some, especially RF chips for wearables where coincell is being used, can do it. Yes in this case chip manages it

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internally there is normally CORE regulator, but the rest of digital IP and IO work at supply voltage (often)

thorny heron
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Okay! That makes a bit more sense now.

It's not the whole board that takes the swing usually, unless they are very simple?

supple fog
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then performance can degrade when the input voltage reduces, for example IO speed, ADC speed, ...

thorny heron
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Is that due to the drop of amperage due to the rise in voltage?

supple fog
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Board is different thing, you need to have all components to manage this

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it is due to the battery operated devices where battery loses voltage when it gets emptier

thorny heron
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Okay gotcha, and the cycles per seconds are correlated with the voltage I assume?

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Just like a CPU rises in voltage as it clocks up?

unborn merlin
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not usually.

supple fog
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Normally not

thorny heron
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Damn... Black magic 😅

supple fog
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because CPU usually works at the 0.9-1.2V, regardless of the supply voltage

unborn merlin
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also most microcontrollers will really start to lose their shit on you outside of their voltage ranges; usually

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undefined behavior is a bitch

thorny heron
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Do they have a 'optimal' voltage within the range

unborn merlin
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usuaally.

thus why things tend to have a regulator on them in some manner..

supple fog
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no, it is very simple, in the MCU you normally have 2 power domains, if I may say:

  • Input voltage, that supplies the MCU, that is depending on the MCU, usually somewhere around 1.6 - 5.5V (some 1.6-3.6, some 2.7-5.5, some 1.6-5.5,...)
  • Core voltage, that is generated with itnernal regulator from the input voltage. Usually 0.9-1.2V
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(I work for a company where we design chips and I am part of the MCU architecture team).

unborn merlin
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assuming the MCU has a separate core voltage.

thorny heron
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So core voltage is what the smaller chips get from the MCU who is the voltage controller

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? *

supple fog
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With the drop of the input voltage, normally CPU performance isn't degraded (sometimes it is, but not for simple MCUs) while degradation is mostly visible in the analog and IO performances.

supple fog
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normally all Cortex-M have this internal voltage because ARM designs the core for that, usually one can't escape it

unborn merlin
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reading datasheets answers all of this. usually.

supple fog
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then to support the "input voltage" at 0.9V, one has to add step-up regulator. Silabs chips will have this

supple fog
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because most of them don't really care

unborn merlin
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because they don't tend to have to care; because its mostly irrelevant for the majority of things. 😄

supple fog
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any another caveat, usually internal regulator is LDO, so the energy waste can be significant. RF chips, that are mostly battery operated, will typically come with SMPS to reduce the internal voltage, that has >90% efficiency

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exactly, unless it comes to mission profile, close to max temperature, industrial environment, etc 😄

unborn merlin
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does the c6 have an internal core voltage or something thats lower to 3.3v?

yep.

Do I care about that on the majority of dev boards? nope not even a little bit. 😄

supple fog
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Sure it has, it must have it because core won't handle 3.3V due to their HVT (likely) transistors

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😄

unborn merlin
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I don't know because I'm not using bare ICs on a board I"m using a devboard or seeed xiao usually.

supple fog
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then indeed u don't care

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which makes sense

unborn merlin
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if I was doing a full on-board chip design.. then I'd have to care a bit more and read a bit more into the datasheet.

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which I may at some point.

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but not soon.

because that would require stepping into the domains of witchcraft and sorcery that is.. RF traces

supple fog
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which is painful by definition

unborn merlin
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thus why I like the..

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onboard antenna? yep.

external connector and switch to go to the ext? yep.

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tho if I want to do a screen.. I may have to actually delve into it a bit.. i'd probably just use an external connector just to not have a headache..

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even if kicad (probably) has a drop-in trace antenna somewhere I imagine.

stuck mortar
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<@&330946878646517761>

iron granite
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Gone.

fierce verge
wraith berry
# fierce verge this is honestly super nice to see! how long did it take ya to work it out?

I've been fiddling with the idea for almost as long as I've used HA, so, years. Putting the CSS for the gradient in was easy, but until this week, I was just doing it by hand for the scenes we like. But it's annoying to gave to make a button again for each new scene.

I'd figured out how to use the colour spare algo to pick two contrasting colours for the gradient, but again I was doing it manually.

Then I saw a Bubble Card module that just coded this big lookup table of the Hue scene names and a colour and realised that approach is perfectly viable. There's only a hundred or so ones in Hue. I copied that table into a Jinja macro template and it was downhill from there.

exotic yoke
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why is switchbot curtain speed a device setting instead of an entity joe_sad

exotic yoke
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i would like to dynamically modify it so i can have slow or fast curtain automations dammit

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and you CAN in the switchbot app, like you can set the speed slow for one opening

unborn merlin
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I feel like there is likely a way to modify that setting in automations.

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but I don't know it. 🤷‍♂️ I just find it hard to believe there is no way to

exotic yoke
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at some point i might just fork it and add it cause it doesnt sound hard if its already adjustable

distant jewel
strong rose
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Uhhhh am I the only one who has home-assistant.io down with a cloud flare origin DNS error?

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Seems not great, lol

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wind venture
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yeah same, origin dns error, homepage loads but others dont

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There are some cloudflare network issues currently. It may be related to that.
I have raised it in the mod/crow channel. Hopefully someone that can investigate in more detail will see it.
But keep in mint its early in the morning on a Sunday... 😛

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It is looking like it is coming back to life now.

last cedar
dusty mica
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<@&330946878646517761>

iron granite
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Gone.

warm helm
dusty mica
static schooner
solar zealot
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mhmmm steamed ham

drifting ravine
robust flicker
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When the answer to the question, "Do you use Mac or Windows?" is "No."

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Not pictured: HA running on bare metal M700 tiny PC, and OPNsense running on Sophos firewall appliance.

arctic quarry
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aww BSD

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brings me back

near reef
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in completely unrelated news LE is reducing cert lifespan so if you have days hardcoded somewhere you need to fix it

frigid fog
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Any discussion on entity naming happening somewhere since it was pulled from the previous release?

iron granite
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Likely on GitHub.

arctic quarry
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presented without context

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-# ok it's from a Benn Jordan video, happy now

minor bobcat
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Release a phone with that rating nowadays and people loose their mind

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Meanwhile Nature been doing it forever

solar zealot
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In fairness animals are not to happy with being indefinitely submerged

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A study showed that

tepid bear
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Hi all,
I created a card, followed the hacs docus and when i generated a "myHA" link and click it, i get the message: " Repository brantje/https://github.com/brantje/ha-cards not found", but github actions is works fine.
Tried to ask on the hacs server, got no answer.

solar zealot
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Won't get an answer here either because this is the water cooler

tepid bear
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Ah damn, any suggestions where to try?

upbeat oak
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Ask in the support category :)

iron granite
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Better: self-assign the Developer role in id:customize and ask in the channels for devs.

unborn merlin
solar zealot
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why would anyone believe in the big fish hoax LOL

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its so obvious

golden eagle
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Wake up guys, new CVE just dropped

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golden eagle
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golden eagle
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I only just got the notif myself, didnt see a CVE hit in the chat since Copy Fail so my bad if its stale

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golden eagle
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I just got a message of a friend who runs an MSP like "New Week New CVE", my 3 core servers are UnRaid, Proxmox and HAOS, so I checked for updates and HAOS was the only one missing

Then again, its not the most abusable attack vector for HAOS so there's that

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golden eagle
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True true, it's impressive that the fixes get rolled out as quick as they do imho, big cudos to the devs and their work

iron granite
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That CVE doesn't seem to have any impact on HAOS in the patched 17.3 version.

It seems we don't have the necessary kernel modules active to make this vulnerability viable, see #4693 (review).

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Per https://github.com/V4bel/dirtyfrag#why-did-you-chain-two-vulnerabilities, we need at least one path to be explotable:
xfrm-ESP Page-Cache Write provides a powerful arbitrary 4-byte STORE primitive like Copy Fail, and is included on most distributions, but it requires the privilege to create a namespace.
Ubuntu sometimes blocks unprivileged user namespace creation through AppArmor policy. In such an environment, xfrm-ESP Page-Cache Write cannot be triggered. RxRPC Page-Cache Write does not require the privilege to create a namespace, but the rxrpc.ko module itself is not included in most distributions. However, on Ubuntu, the rxrpc.ko module is loaded by default.
Chaining the two variants makes the blind spots cover each other, allowing root privileges to be obtained on every major distribution. For details, refer to the technical details document.
The first path (fixed by the included/backported patch) is not generally exploitable because users in unprivileged containers can't create namespaces (AFAIK the container would need at least CAP_SYS_ADMIN).
The second path is not viable either, because we don't enable CONFIG_AF_RXRPC in our kernel configs.
Seems that this vulnerability doesn't hit HAOS as hard as Copy Fail.

iron granite
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-# But we ran out of coffee.

umbral cliff
iron granite
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RAICS - redundant array of independent coffee shops

static schooner
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You have to install so many common things, but I guess it's better than having a bunch of unnecessary attack vectors

warm helm
dusty mica
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not weekend

warm helm
astral peak
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Does anyone who's upgraded to 2026.5.1 still have battery indicators in the Overview dashboard? I can't get them to appear anymore, and booting in safe mode didn't fix it so I'm not sure if I did something or if it was an intended change that went live with the maintenance dashboard

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here, I mean

iron granite
astral peak
iron granite
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That's still considered support.

silent doveBOT
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The topic of this channel is:

There’s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If you’re "just asking a question", you're asking for support. Head to https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 to help you find where you should post your question. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

split grail
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Man, I wish HA had generator support in the energy panel. We have power outages at least once a year due to weather and it freaks out because it doesn't know where power's coming from
I've also learned never to update anything unless I actually need it after the emporia incident™

solar zealot
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You could just specify the generator as either grid, solar or battery

grizzled gull
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Stealth support...

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😛

solar zealot
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I posted an emergency raccoon

stuck mortar
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The mods will never know

solar zealot
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shhhhh

static schooner
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we lurk in the shadows...

stuck mortar
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Just have to add disclaimers to the end of the stealth support to disavow liability.

This is not medical advice.

last cedar
solar zealot
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they go into "individual devices"

warm helm
solar zealot
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recycling professionals

last cedar
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Awwww

stuck mortar
warm helm
gentle comet
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how does one find the motivation to actually customize a ui

atomic delta
split grail
atomic delta
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Right now I just plug my generator into the panel, but I will eventually have a hard installed generator and would be very disappointed if HA had no support.

split grail
stuck mortar
warm helm
stuck mortar
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If my dinner order is delivered by a robot, it better be a doggobot

static schooner
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The transformation to spiderbot was something, especially at night

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Like Black Mirror

ocean oar
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Someone needs to put truck nuts on that

tame tartan
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I'm sure this has been asked but the search in discord is absolute booty cheeks. Was there an update recently that would game killed my zigbee shelly plug connection? It's stopped working and shows as unknown firmware now

solar zealot
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Heya the raccoons

iron granite
dusty mica
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change name to "Anything BUT Home Assistant"

glacial knot
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Change name to "Raccoons"

tawny agate
last cedar
thorny heron
lapis cairn
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I too want raccoon assistant icon

iron granite
high remnant
lavish badger
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Hmmm. I try not to ask technical questions here, but I didn't find anything in the support area, or any of my searches of the repo or reddit...anyone have the Orbit BHyve stuff stop being able to login in the last day or so for them?

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If not I'll create a post.

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Gotta love how fast the community fixes stuffs.

exotic yoke
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i fucking love the temp/humidity meter i got

exotic yoke
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this shit is so cool

scenic radish
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looks pretty warm to me

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OOO, The Shelly EM gen4 supports the selection of 50/80/120A CT clamps. the Gen3 only supporting 50A was just awkward. May have to update the gen1's I have at some point...

solar zealot
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They changed the connector design twice for those clamps

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solar zealot
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I recall the 3em using different ones to the pro 3em

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Later can be set to be used with various other ones

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But you kinda can't buy it with other ones

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Interesting.

crude wharf
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How do we reach out moderation? Especially about Facebook. I tried to contact the moderators but that did not work.

tall garnet
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hello good people

weak musk
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hello Jeff

warm helm
thorny heron