the-water-cooler

[peak slate]

That's like Microsoft's entire codebase!

[gentle comet]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-rigby-pee-funny-cat-gif-436236211739437212

[vivid wraith]

Okay what’s the meta for sleep robust bed presence detection, that weight sensor thing?

[static schooner]

Sounds like a #1284966353798697001 thing

[vivid wraith]

Yee

[split acorn]

block windows telemetry dns?

[high remnant]

it’s not only windows, this is in more apps. Reddit is also nagging me to enable notifications for example

[rough geyser]

anyone have any reading suggestions for using the devices built into your haos hardware? I wound up using a rather nice laptop for a bare metal install and would love to understand how to use the built in hardware, camera, audio in and outputs, bluetooth etc

particulary getting audio in and out working

[static schooner]

Please post in #1284966540617449515

[rough geyser]

sure, thanks Rob

still learning my way around here

[fresh bramble]

do yall know something like readarr but

actually working

[high remnant]

yes it’s called my partner

lol

[split acorn]

what i hate is the "enable google photos backups?" everytime when i open google photos

hands off google! hands off!

i dont want my metadata to train your cloud vision AI models!

[high remnant]

in my mind it has the same energy as to keep asking someone to have sex so that they’ll eventually cave due to pressure and repeatedly asking.

i know you set now but pls lemme smash

no means no

[fresh bramble]

i don't want ai training off my fugly ass

[static schooner]

How about I stop using this app completely? Huh? How about that?

[fresh bramble]

or my actual ass in general

[split acorn]

real lol

[high remnant]

i wish but unfortunately all software is doing this

[split acorn]

grrr

maybe a custom vibe coded web extension

to auto decline popups

notifs and cookies and etc

[high remnant]

you have the anti annoyances option in uBloxm

[last cedar]

Think of the profit margins though! What is wrong with you 🤣

[scenic radish]

margina 😳

Oh you jerk

[last cedar]

It is Italian for margins

You pronounce it with your hands

https://tenor.com/view/lecker-lecke-deli-mhm-max-gif-17103494

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-kid-gif-9259417

[peak slate]

Lol for car enthusiasts

[static schooner]

Facts

[arctic quarry]

Today I used #find-support to find the correct channel, and the Discord thread search function to find a thread about the issue I needed help with. It worked. AMA

[high remnant]

I didn't. I used #the-water-cooler and got shouted at

[arctic quarry]

skill issue

if someone repeatedly recommends Tuya hardware, is that a shill issue?

if a whale is malnourished, is it a krill issue?

if I find Stranger Things boring and predictable, is that a thrill issue?

[high remnant]

lmfao

[iron granite]

If you have to pay for bad dad jokes, is that a bill issue?

[sinful plinth]

yessss btw u think i need the graphics card?

[solar zealot]

I'm more worried about seeing an A4 cpu

[sinful plinth]

why? The system is always idling xD

it's "temporary" until i finish my Proxmox /NAS Server so HOAS can run again on my pi 5

[minor bobcat]

You're building a temp server for your proxnox machine so HA can run on a Pi?

[solar zealot]

It's also always slow and always using quite some power ;P

[minor bobcat]

Wha?

[sinful plinth]

it runs since a few months now and before i had Pimox (unofficial proxmox port for arm) running but because support dropped i installed hoas on that machine and run docker on the pi. and when it's ready i can usew the wayyy slower machine - the pi - for running only hoas again and not have to run immich and jellyfin

[sinful plinth]

it's not slow xD
About the power usagae idk but it's at least for what i'm using it for fast enought

[last cedar]

I consider myself a car enthusiast

[solar zealot]

In terms of speed yes it is pretty slow :P

[sinful plinth]

yeah but it'S using 3-8% and 2 GB of 16 GB of RAM sooo

[solar zealot]

Something like an N100 gets to be 2-4x faster while using less than a quarter the energy :P

[sinful plinth]

yeah but i will use the pi later

[solar zealot]

The magic of a decade of development:P

[sinful plinth]

i don't need that much of power. for that i have my other pc w/ an gpu and 32 GB of ddr4 memory so yeah

[minor bobcat]

You do you. I'm chilling with a N100 serving me lol

It ain't keeping me warm I'll tell you that much

[solar zealot]

6-25w tdp

Indeed it does not

[minor bobcat]

Yeah whole thing sits at like 40W idle before HDD spindown

[last cedar]

I am going to have to turn my heat up when I take my old L5640 NAS out of service, might be this weekend

It is my old freenas box, need to see if it has anything useful on it that isn't already on the new NAS

She uses about 130W if memory serves

[minor bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/jensen-ackles-dean-winchester-dean-the-cw-supernatural-gif-9171940

[stuck mortar]

freenas, more like freeheat amirite

[still wigeon]

Quite annoying there isnt any channels you can just drop a quick question in, have to make a whole thread

[eternal silo]

Hi everyone!

I’m Tianzhi He, an Assistant Professor at UT San Antonio. Our team is currently working on a research project proposal focused on safety, security, and privacy challenges in the Home Assistant ecosystem, and we are looking to connect with community members who may be interested in collaborating.

I’d love to hear from:

• Deep developers or maintainers
• Experienced power users
• Newer users who are actively learning and deploying Home Assistant

All perspectives are valuable: technical, user-facing, or ecosystem-level.

If you’re interested, feel free to reach out to me directly at [e-mail].

I’ve also shared more background and details of this project on the Home Assistant Community Forum here:
👉 https://community.home-assistant.io/t/call-for-collaboration-home-assistant-safety-security-privacy/964086

Thanks, and I really appreciate the community’s time and openness!

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze https://youtube.com/shorts/MbmAekGLS2M?si=bEy4ud2clAQZKaUn

[vivid berry]

Any recommendations for a hardwired relay for RPi Home Assistant? Trying to control a 12V alarm horn.

[solar zealot]

Any relay should work that's rated for the appropriate current

[vivid berry]

I just don't know how Home Assistant will recognize it.

Does it have some native recognition of the ports on the RPi?

[solar zealot]

It won't recognize it at all

You need an integration that can detect your hardware

[vivid berry]

Do you know of any specifics I can look at? Relays are a bit new for me (other than using the Zooz Multirelay).

[solar zealot]

You may want to prefer also buying an esp32 and use esphome to run the horn

They have their own discord with a more extensive diy section. Id also just buy what I see on Amazon ^^

[vivid berry]

Would I use Home ASsistant at all if I use esphome?

[solar zealot]

Yes esphome easily integrates into homeassistant

[forest edge]

just use a shelly 1. can run both mains or 12v and has a dry contact so whatever you are switching dosen't have to be the same power

[dawn badge]

it really depends on what exactly your circuit layout / load / etc... is

[vivid berry]

It's just a pair of 12V horn speakers. I have a Meanwell 12V power supply. Just need the relay to interupt the common line.

[forest edge]

shelly 1 can do that

[dawn badge]

yeah this, would likly be a good option. the shelly 1 (the blue one) is dry contact

[vivid berry]

Cool.

And shelly 1 has an integration with Home Assistant?

[solar zealot]

Yes

[dawn badge]

yeah shelly works out the box

[vivid berry]

What about it's reliability as WiFi?

Is there perhaps a better option that is hard-wired for more reliability?

[forest edge]

shelly 1 is hardwired

[vivid berry]

The horns are for my home security system so I'm hoping to have virtually no downtime or interruption.

Oh.

It says WiFi-operated on their website. Might be lookinga the wrong version.

[forest edge]

infact if you get the gen 4 you can use wifi or zigbee or blutooth

[solar zealot]

You will need a wifi network to have it work through wifi

Wether or not that's reliable depends on your environment and a couple other things

[dawn badge]

the Shelly Pro 1 has an ethernet port but its a din rail mount device

[forest edge]

shelly's are not cheap tuya crap. it will be reliable

[vivid berry]

So when you say hardwired, are you referring to how it communicates with Home Assistant? Or the contacts for the circuit?

[dawn badge]

but i think you have to power the pro with mains

[forest edge]

heck I still have some gen 1's in service

[vivid berry]

I have a Zigbee network, so if these are reliable via Zigbee, I can just do that.

[solar zealot]

Old guy uses old devices, more at 11

[forest edge]

shellies are wifi/zigbee/bluetooth. to power it you use mains or 12v

[vivid berry]

Got it.

[forest edge]

or even zwave now I guess

[vivid berry]

I would prefer not to use Zwave anymore.

I only have my relays on it.

[forest edge]

tho the zwave models are a seperate and inclusivbe thing. not even sure the zwave ones have wifi

[vivid berry]

Meanwhile my Zigbee network is really built out with switches, sensors, etc.

[dawn badge]

the gen4 shelly devices have zigbee as an option.

[vivid berry]

Great, I'll get those.

Oh, and Matter haha. I have a good Matter network too.

[solar zealot]

no gen 4 plugs yet besides the us variant :'c

[vivid berry]

Well, do you guys have an opinion on what protocol would be best? WiFi, Zigbee, or Matter?

[forest edge]

it all works

[solar zealot]

pretty much

[dawn badge]

https://www.shelly.com/products/shelly-1-gen4

[forest edge]

matter is pretty much just wifi anyways unless you use the horrid thread

[vivid berry]

Can you use Matter without thread?

[forest edge]

yes

[solar zealot]

matter over thread of Zigbee devices but not compatible with Zigbee xD

[dawn badge]

the matter on shelly deices is over wifi

[vivid berry]

How do I use Matter over WiFi?

[forest edge]

they might be able to do thread too. not sure not looked

[vivid berry]

I'd probably prefer to switch to that since my Thread router is my stupid Google Home unit.

[dawn badge]

matter-over-thread devvices generally dont have wifi

[forest edge]

I would just use wifi or zigbee and skip matter imo

[dawn badge]

essentuaally matter-over-thread and matter-over-wifi are 2 differnt things

[vivid berry]

Well, I bought like 25 Inovelli switches, all Matter 😛

[forest edge]

yea one sucks more than the other

[vivid berry]

So I'm a bit committed to it in that sense.

[dawn badge]

what type of matter though?

[vivid berry]

Thread

They've been working great.

[dawn badge]

saying just "matter" is like saying "liquid fuel" sure something might be liquid fuel but it might not work in your engine 😛

[forest edge]

shelly is just matter over wifi.. guess they have no plans to support thread even tho the hardware can support it

[dawn badge]

i wouldnt be supprised to see it come later or maybe they are saving for gen5

[vivid berry]

I don't plan to expand my Matter network too much more. I have Inovelli switches, my three window shades, and a few smart plugs on it.

[forest edge]

I dunno.. they don't seem keen to support the addon over zigbee so they don't always listen to customers

[dawn badge]

from context here i know what you mean but please say "thread network" 😛

this whole issue with matter is probably why it will fail.

nobody can market it correctly because there's no simple way of explaining that there are 2 different things called the same thing.

[forest edge]

honestly not sure why there even is two variants

[dawn badge]

@vivid berry btw be sure to get the "shelly 1" not the "shelly 1 mini" the mini doesn't support powering by DC

[ocean oar]

(but it will still work if you have an AC power source, because it is still a dry contact relay)

(but also, just buy the full-size one)

[vivid berry]

This one?

https://www.amazon.com/Shelly-1-Channel-Automation-SmartThings-Compatible/dp/B0F92X39RM/

Yeah, I'd prefer this anyway since it's double the amperage.

I could use one of these to control my entire landscape lighting transformer.

[dawn badge]

matter as an underlaying a standard works on any ipv6 network. and companies like matter over wifi because they can retain ownership of the device after they sell it to you. with thread they cant really do that.

[vivid berry]

And this is a single relay per device?

Yeah, 1-channel. Got it.

[dawn badge]

yeah the I / O are the dry contacts

[ocean oar]

The 2-channel isn't a dry contact, so it's fine if you need a 120/230V output, but not if you want to switch 12V

[vivid berry]

I don't see a 2-channel version.

But yeah, I need to switch 12V so doesn't matter.

12V for one, 24V for another line.

I built my own low voltage light transformer and one of the power supplies is running 24V so I can size down the wiring on a particularly long run.

[forest edge]

over wifi still requires a matter server so in terms of disconnection I don't think that will likely ever be an issue

besides over thread they could pull some weird stuff to in regards to requiring a certian hub etc like how aqara did

[dawn badge]

with wifi you get bullshit like "you can turn the plug on/off by matter but if you want energy monitoring you need to use our app with your account that uses normal wifi connection to work"

[forest edge]

true. found that out first hand lol

altho that same limits could be applies to either

they could just f00k you straight up over thread and not include that info with no alternative means of getting it

[ocean oar]

Or like I discovered with a LIFX bulb, if you connect it via matter you cant have transitions, it just changes colour/brightness immediately.

[dawn badge]

if its thread only device then its likely gunna be accessible.

[dawn badge]

yup this

[forest edge]

lets just face it. they messed up matter and best to never mention it again

[dawn badge]

I made a rant post to link to people using tp-link devices (and having problems because of it) and I cover the matter issue - https://gist.github.com/MichaelMKKelly/056bd7d045266fd109a9b02b24826506

[forest edge]

what does tp sell that uses matter?

oh the plugs etc

I keep forgetting kasa is tp

[dawn badge]

I do sort of lean that way tbh but also some of the big companies (e.g. apple/amazon) are putting thread radios in their stuff so its gunna be around for a while.

[forest edge]

thread has been in echo crap for awhile

thread by itself has always been that red headed step child

[dawn badge]

for matter to be saved it needs to overhaul its certification.

if companies pull this bullshit then they get their certification pulled.

[forest edge]

I don't get the issue with just using one protocol universally. it would actually make things cheaper for companies in the long run

[dawn badge]

Ikea at the latest in terrible marketing. they slap "matter" everywhere but to know that its thread you have to delve deep into the user manual
so people that are used to matter being a wifi thing because of some random smartplug think its all good then they ask how to put in wifi details.

then the reverse on some companies wifi devices. "why is matter asking for wifi creds?, the whole point is that its not wifi"
makes me slam my head into the desk

[forest edge]

lets go back to the days of 433Mhz with the occasional oddball 315Mhz

[ocean oar]

At least the signal went through walls properly 😛

[forest edge]

it does

I have yet to ever have an issue and I got tons of weather and buttons running on it

[vivid berry]

Is a device either Matter over Thread or Matter over WiFi? Or can some do both?

[forest edge]

not sure I have seen a device support both yet but technically the hardware is there on esp devices

[vivid berry]

So my Inovellis that are Thread won't do WiFi?

Now I feel like I should've gotten all Zigbee for my Inovellis.

Expensive mistake if Matter ends up being an issue.

[forest edge]

have you looked them up? they may support just wifi

[dawn badge]

most likely (technically it could be both but its unlikely)

[vivid berry]

I only see Thread when I look them up.

I won't worry for now. They've been bullet proof so far.

More reliable than some of my Zigbee devices tbh.

[dawn badge]

then probably thread only then

[vivid berry]

But I don't know if that's because Inovelli is very high quality or because Matter/Thread is a good protocol.

[dawn badge]

if they are working then there is no problem.

[forest edge]

I think here if you were to deck out your house with wifi smart stuff you can actually asks for more but if you were to do anything other protocol even if you included the hub etc you would either have to take a loss or remove those devices before closeout lol

[vivid berry]

Yeah lol

I never plan to leave this place though.

And if I did, I'd rip out all my Inovellis and swap them with dumb switches.

[steel pumice]

skibidi

[dusty mica]

gesundheit

[stiff smelt]

Ugh i never really cared for dashboards but decided to put some effort in one to make something nice besides just functional.
Bye bye countless hours 😅

[high remnant]

doesn't have to be fancy, simply functional

[stiff smelt]

Yeah, i have that, but functional for me is not functional for my wife.
Also planning on getting a display on a wall, so something nice looking is required

[north girder]

hey guys
have any of you noticed you cant add anything to automations in version 2026.1.0?
the automation editor just closes as soon as you select anything to add 😄

[fathom sparrow]

clear your cache and refresh the page. Also, this is a first and last warning: This channel is not for support.

[north girder]

i wasnt asking for support just seeing if others saw this too but noted.

[fathom sparrow]

Fair enough, however it's a slippery slope to support

[north girder]

meh if people here were like well yes blabla i would have moved over to the proper channels,
thats what the coffeemachine or watercooler is for is it not? 😄

[sinful plinth]

I'll look

[high remnant]

https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/damaged-dazzling-adorable-arcticseal.png :D

[young sigil]

No, it is for raccoon and cat pics.

[sinful plinth]

I mean at least on my mobile app it works so idk

[north girder]

@sinful plinth aah thanks, just so yall know i found a gitissue #28899 which reports the same behaviour for scripts so i added my tests and info there 🙂

[young elm]

what are some weird things people have on HA?

[iron granite]

Washing machines with their own blog.

[young elm]

interesting

[lone dagger]

If you haven't already, be sure to post this in #1284960456880029707 too!

[iron granite]

They already did.
https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1459059145121730582

[lone dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-yeah-bitcoin-ethereum-eth-btc-gif-27338496

[young elm]

i have a nuclear reactor on it.

[dawn badge]

I am sure that is against at least one of the recommendations somewhere 😛

[young elm]

well it's read-only. to operate it you have to press actual buttons.

[sinful plinth]

I'm waiting for almost 7 hours

Parcel on its way to the packing station.
Fri, 09/01/2026, 09:34

Expected delivery date
Fri, 09/01/2026

[scenic radish]

weird, it's not September

|| yes, that's a joke about the stupid US date format ||

[mortal walrus]

fwiw, this is slighly misleading. The Aqara "Matter over Thread" devices that work best with one of their hubs do so because their Matter firmware is incomplete, so to get full functionality you have to install the Zigbee firmware which has proprietary extensions which their hub knows how to talk to.

(tho some of those extensions on some devices have been reverse-engineered so you can use them with ZHA or Z2M)

[dawn badge]

oh that reminds meof something i thought of the other day. in the UK we have a special clock that might scare the Americans who are scared of 24hr time... one moment

this is a nice clock 🙂

[scenic radish]

I mean, I like 24-hour time but this seems like something I'd see in a strange dream lol

Like when flipping light switches doesn't do anything

[dusty mica]

oh, that late already?

[dawn badge]

its at Greenwich which makes it inherently correct 🙂

[scenic radish]

mmm greenwiches

[dawn badge]

there is also the big red "Time Ball" there

it rises up just before 1300 then drops down exactly at 1300.
its a time signal for ensuring your clock is correct. and importantly it can be seen from the river so the ships in London can set their clocks/chronometers

[dusty mica]

https://tenor.com/view/red-ball-gif-21759296

[mortal walrus]

hmm. the ALPSTUGA CO₂ sensor seems to track fairly well (I've got an NDIR sensor to compare), but it's completely uncalibrated from the factory and appears to assume that the concentration when you first turn it on is ~390ppm… it adjusts over time if it sees lower concentrations later :/

[nova turtle]

Is there an add-on for a better scene editor? I'd like to see at a glance in the editor what the current state of each entity is vs what the scene's target state for each entity and be able to directly edit the target state

[static schooner]

#1284980040940912641

[sinful plinth]

yessss it's weird

[vivid wraith]

Ooo I have a chunk of these arriving soon. Partly to use as thread routers while my coverage is sparse. Was that documented? Should I just initially plug them in outside for an hour or smth

Not sure how long I’d need to leave them there 🤔

[mortal walrus]

the only thing they say in the instructions is that "it may take up to 12 hours for an accurate CO₂ level reading" but it's been more than 12h for me and it's still reading about 350ppm lower than my NDIR sensor.

if you leave it outside… probably as long as you wait long enough for the temperature and humidity sensors to stabilize (iirc this type of CO₂ sensor needs to know accurate temperature and humidity for compensation in its calculations) it would be good enough. No idea about how well the sensor will work long term without occasionally having some fresh air for auto-calibration tho.

(but that's also true of many NDIR sensors too, the default is usually to auto-calibrate assuming the lowest CO₂ seen over the past week or so is ambient outdoor levels)

[vivid wraith]

Well I can put one of them next to my Apollo air-1 for a baseline I guess

[static schooner]

https://www.threads.com/@abhijeetmayur501/post/DTRviyGEovv?xmt=AQF01Mzwxm3Pf38O4EQ5BoxoyFQWuJi1Z0qKM4R6m29ds7KuNbcr1kzt15NtgA7-lI0psAQO&slof=1

ALL cats deserve promotions!

https://tenor.com/view/catbus-ghibli-gif-27649168

Cats facilitate all manner of transportation

[last cedar]

My 1988 Husqvarna lawnmower, which acts a hub for my 1999 Volvo

IYKYK

[forest edge]

I like never seen those caved in nose cats around here like you always see in japanese cat videos

munckin or whatever that breed is

[last cedar]

The name you are looking for is "sillyaf" cat

[forest edge]

sounds cat raciest

[static schooner]

I haven't seen any cats with 10 legs either

[dusty mica]

cat>cartoon>raccoon. oh darwin..

[last cedar]

There are lots of them stomping around Pripyat

[dusty mica]

those with 5 eyes?

[dusty mica]

https://tenor.com/view/thesimpsons-fish-gif-4488518

[blissful hull]

Did you guys saw this already?
https://youtu.be/Q1S-PVo3GlA?si=5hP2pv0YPaVW10Wo

it is a demo from security event where the presenter show how did they reverse engineered some household applience internal comincation protocol. and then integrated into HA/esphome
This is cool local only solution, and maybe you can unlock some features in the washing machine too? 😄

[solar zealot]

Features such as
washing the clothes?

[dusty mica]

cool, i guess

[last cedar]

Only on the 20C setting, anything warmer isn't cool

[dusty mica]

philosophical 😉

https://tenor.com/view/smile-freud-sigmund-freud-sigar-smoke-gif-19155220

[dusty mica]

that's a hot comment!

[last cedar]

Just like a 90C wash

[dusty mica]

too hot to handle

[last cedar]

yep

unrelated question... has anyone been to that place in Texas where you can drive a tank?

[stuck mortar]

You all don’t autoclave your workout clothes?

[last cedar]

do you think they would let a psycopathic raccoon try?

[dusty mica]

https://tenor.com/view/di-plein-tank-rampage-destroyer-gif-18841784

neh

[last cedar]

Just my underwear, it makes my raccoon noises a lot higher pitch

[iron granite]

In Sweden there is a place where you can drive a tank.

[dusty mica]

ikea

tankfri

https://tenor.com/view/what-da-panser-doin-what-ds-panzer-doin-panser-on-ice-panzer-on-ice-panzer-drift-gif-23248670

[peak slate]

phew, was worried i missed cat stations in japan, but we didn't end up going to that area, though we were nearby-ish in kyoto

next time 😄

[minor bobcat]

Germany too

[ocean oar]

Technically anywhere is a place you can drive a tank if you believe in yourself 😉

You have a tank, who's going to stop you?

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/killdozer-bulldozer-gif-14610025358922684548

[iron granite]

That incident didn't end well.

[high remnant]

wasnt a requirement iirc

[iron granite]

He commited suicide when the bulldozer got stuck in a building.

[high remnant]

yeah

i know

i do not know however what is goal was

or at least i cannot remember

[iron granite]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer

[high remnant]

fair eniugh

I mean

[latent rain]

thanks for the cool icons home assistant!

[stiff smelt]

Finally mostly satisfied with my dashboard progress 🙂

[forest edge]

like you make the classic tv artist decision giving yourself terminator sunglasses lol

[stiff smelt]

I wore them on the photo i asked AI to process, still need to create new ones, but i kinda like it xD

Also avoiding a full face reveal, its all been thoroughly thought out.

[forest edge]

its your dashboard.. face reveal to who? lol

[stiff smelt]

according to the sidebar, at least 20,329 online strangers

[forest edge]

this channel gets maybe 30 active people within a 48 hour period. you are safe lol

[stiff smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/sarcasm-big-bang-theory-leonard-penny-mad-gif-5142606

:>

Much of the dashboard contains dynamic stuff that is hidden by default, im working on appliance statusses now

[static schooner]

You're safe, it's all in some made up language 🙂

[stiff smelt]

How come there are 20k people online and body is chatting about their cool homes?

[atomic delta]

Okay, I'll bite. It's 62F in my room right now. I have a very cool home.

[static schooner]

It's winter and many people's homes are warm

[stiff smelt]

Thats cool
We should create a website where we can expose our living room temperatures and get cool statistics

[forest edge]

62F? wtf

[static schooner]

That's downright cold

[stiff smelt]

What are you guys doing to your homes now, anything interesting?

[atomic delta]

Sitting inside it.

[forest edge]

they testing out their xmas gift The Comfy. the wearable blanket

[static schooner]

That's a Snuggie

[atomic delta]

Nah, I have a big blanket from Big Blanket. 10' square.

[high remnant]

succes met de cito

[stiff smelt]

Hehe, thats just the school calendar loaded in Home assistant, my kid is 4 so it will be a while before that's relevant, but thx anyway

[high remnant]

😂😂😂

i had to

[stiff smelt]

I might actually be able to filter those out 🤔

[high remnant]

cus i’m freezing my nuts off outside rn

[stiff smelt]

why are you outside

[forest edge]

aren't you the one who was posting in here a few weeks ago about a temp sensor dying cause it got too cold?

[atomic delta]

Nope

[forest edge]

who was that. complained about an indoor sensor dying when put outside lol

[stiff smelt]

Ive been using the ikea sensors outside for quite a while, they are quite robust.

[high remnant]

fixing my outdoor temp sensor

[atomic delta]

I have an indoor sensor outside right now, a holdover from before I had my weather station. If it dies, I have my weather station, idc.

[stiff smelt]

Oh wait, thats motion, nvm

[high remnant]

and also filling my car back up with antifreeze lol

[stiff smelt]

Yeah gotta know its cold because now you dont know

[high remnant]

its more something to prevent my water heater from freezing

[stiff smelt]

Ok makes sense

[high remnant]

if the -15 coldsnap does happen

https://tenor.com/wMnN.gif

[stiff smelt]

Isnt the purpose of the water heater to heat the water so, no freezing?

[high remnant]

its a geiser

[stiff smelt]

ah

[high remnant]

so it will freeze if its not in use

[stiff smelt]

yeah

i remember those from my child days, but those quite a while back. That's old skool

[high remnant]

this house is oldskool

its on the list to be replaced

but time is an issue

[stiff smelt]

Yeah, always

[high remnant]

ngl its actually not bad. it works similar to the CVs

[stiff smelt]

Yeah, i know, just really avoid taking showers when other people use the hot water xD

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/geyser-gif-8797885

[high remnant]

I dont have this issue!

[high remnant]

correct!

[stiff smelt]

😮

[high remnant]

Aka tankless water heater

[stiff smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/squirtle-gif-5813422480410872818

you taking a shower

i now understand why you do not have the issue

[high remnant]

I do like to go scorched earth lol

[stiff smelt]

cleans te nostrils very good too.

I do envy your water pressure

[high remnant]

🤣

[steel pumice]

urgh my home server lam port keeps crashing

I hate having to reconnect the ethernet cable over and over again

[hoary canyon]

Change the cable

or is it the actual LAN port on the hardware

[steel pumice]

yeah it's the lan port

[solar zealot]

you can always just use a usb one instead

[steel pumice]

oh right

[shy plinth]

<@&330946878646517761>

[steel pumice]

what the fuck

same pictures every time

[shy plinth]

[young sigil]

[low harness]

Second too late again.

[stiff smelt]

Wanna keep all that money for yourself eh

[young sigil]

I usually don't even have time to read the images before someone gets to it.

[steel pumice]

before you think this is damaging just know that it went offline in the routers settings I can't even access the truenas ui

and I don't care about the mac address anymore I'm changing that thing

[small badger]

So my firmware on my router became corrupt and I had to restore to factory. Now my HA doesn’t work anymore in most cases. I’m thinking it might be due to me having static IPs before and not anymore. Now my router uses object oriented so I didn’t use static IPs but is there a way to make HA work without static IPs?

[forest edge]

how the hell do you get <@&330946878646517761> to work without putting text before it. also the Extarxy post

[fathom sparrow]

you gotta be smart

[forest edge]

that don't work

[fathom sparrow]

<@&330946878646517761>

[forest edge]

it just auto fills MOd25

[fathom sparrow]

seems liek it works for me

[forest edge]

yea well your privileged

[static schooner]

maybe MOd25 can help

I get the same:

[forest edge]

I can put a space before the @ and I think it works but just @M does not

[young sigil]

Hmm. It does not work for me either

[static schooner]

No idea why the last two are in that list 🤷

[young sigil]

AI assisted search vomit?

[static schooner]

there's no "mod" in the screenname or handle

[forest edge]

sounds like a permission issue

petro is probably in some role the rest of us are not that has the permission to Mod

or see it or whatever

[static schooner]

must be the "Breaks Things" role

no, he has all the same as me

[forest edge]

mobile vs desktop?

[static schooner]

desktop

Found a new one for me:

🤷

[forest edge]

those work

so the mod one must not be part of that

[static schooner]

it is, that's what that's from

that's from the settings for the Mod role

[forest edge]

just saying you type @here or everyone without an leading spaces and it fills correctly. the mod one does not

[static schooner]

I give up, can't figure it out. Google is useless for it

[forest edge]

weird. why is there so many people with the name admin in here lol

[stuck mortar]

I can at mod just fine. Must be a skill issue

[forest edge]

with no leading space or text?

you on mobile or desktop?

[stuck mortar]

Mobile

[forest edge]

see

I bet that's the diffrence

[static schooner]

interesting - it turns yellow on mobile indicating it recognizes it as a role, but the autocomplete list is the same as above. It just lets me use it without picking the top item in the list instead

meh, this isn't a problem for me, so I'll let you guys sort it out 🙂

[stuck mortar]

Ah yes I just hit enter and don’t worry about the list

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/code-works-code-not-working-error-scaler-create-impact-gif-24991578

[static schooner]

but if you do that on the desktop, it really does pick the top item in the list

[forest edge]

yea poor mod25

always asked to take care of problems

[stuck mortar]

Maybe the username is aspirational

Just waiting for the other 24 mods

[static schooner]

last activity in Dec 2023

[stuck mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/its-been84years-titanic-rose-dawson-gif-5372593

[forest edge]

prob got sick of being mentioned they turned off notifications for this server

[stuck mortar]

Maybe it’s a beetlejuice sorta situation where you have to say mod 25 times in a row

[static schooner]

#botspam for that

[forest edge]

looks like a gaming pc with legs

https://youtu.be/Ut3QFPr7hyo?si=k3_qXXVFdXEqX1vW

[vivid wraith]

I have 3 or 4 coming tomorrow, I’ll set them up outside and put one of them next to my NDIR after I bring it in and let you know how it’s working

[atomic delta]

https://hackaday.com/2026/01/09/play-games-in-uefi-to-access-your-computer/

[desert cave]

https://tenor.com/view/your-youre-you-or-youre-poor-grammer-indecisive-gif-24128495

[forest edge]

always your, there is no you're

[steel pumice]

hell yeah

[steel pumice]

hell no

[forest edge]

its cool they are going to make a whole warhammer tv and movie franchise but sucks its going to take like 10 year before anything is released

[high remnant]

https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/sardonic-chubby-biodegradable-alpaca.jpg mans not hot

[dusty mica]

https://tenor.com/view/frozen-freezing-cold-shivering-glace-gif-2706187071921734019

[high remnant]

Lüften

[dusty mica]

muss

[last cedar]

Shoulder in a puffer jacket

Or 3 raccoons, who knows, you can tell by if your doormat is there or not

[steel pumice]

no it's a seat

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/racoon-cute-thief-caught-robber-gif-3466607

[last cedar]

Grab a pic of it when you won't freeze to death doing so, would be interested to see how it looks

I got a persons shoulder from what I saw, but at the same time I wouldn't have said it was a "person" based off that

[last cedar]

I helped a very good friend to me put in 4 new windows in their bedroom, his wife is one of those who likes to sleep in like 14C room

They had to open the window one night because she was too warm 🤣

No good deed goes unpunished

[high remnant]

i mean mines usually 15 to 17 too

[last cedar]

We currently have -8C outside

I found it highly amusing, I sleep with a summer duvet and currently have about 21.7C in my bedroom

But I don't have anyone to cuddle in bed

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-sad-raccoon-raccoon-sitting-gif-989185322542646529

[dusty mica]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-raccoon-sad-crying-crying-raccoon-raccoon-gif-9709824446003365080

[last cedar]

Look at that repair

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-eyes-steve-buscemi-big-eyes-gif-11491116276663604660

This too, so proud

Maybe this is why I sleep alone 🤣

[dusty mica]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-gif-7653869622424692079

[last cedar]

Just needed a quick and dirty storm cover

[iron granite]

Better than a quick and dirty bed companion.

[young sigil]

Don't kink shame.

[solar zealot]

It either hits the bed or the rotary air impeller

[hybrid dust]

Hey all, but of a weird question but is there some kind of colour picker helper? I've got some rgb coach lights out the front of the house and want to have the ability to change the colour of them individually from my dashboard. I know I could use the more info thing but was hoping to have a nicer looking ui to make it more friendly to use

[dawn badge]

You can check out some of the custom card options on HACS. There are some options that might fit your purpose. but for further discussion start a thread in #1284965988642590891

[vivid wraith]

✅ home/away and sleeping thermostat schedules automated

Next on my list is replacing these fans and then maybe thread light bulbs? Maybe

My fans are those ones with RF remotes

Replacing fan modules seems hard

[iron granite]

The BroadLink RM4 Pro can do (some) RF (433 MHz in EU).

[silent dove]

Broadlink

Instructions on setting up Broadlink within Home Assistant.

Documentation

View the documentation

Quality scale

No score

IoT Class

Local Polling

Integration type

device

Source

View the source on GitHub

Issues

View known issues

[iron granite]

No rolling code and so on.

[winter heart]

Anyone have an explanation for why Home Assistant cannot set alarms by default configuration?

[static schooner]

Not clear what you're talking about

there's also no support here. #find-support

[high remnant]

because it doesn’t want to

[winter heart]

This is the "water-cooler" channel for Home assistant. Why shouldn't I ask a basic question here? Using a voice assistant in home assistant, I tell it to "set an alarm for 7:00 AM." My Ai linked assistant say's, "Got it. Setting an alarm for 7:00AM." Then immediately says, "I'm sorry, but I can't set alarms at the moment. If there's another smart home task I can assist with, let me know." for a voice assistant, this seems like such a basic task. Just wondering why it's not integrated within Home assistant?

[static schooner]

because that's how this server operates

please follow the rules

[winter heart]

super helpful answer.

[static schooner]

if you can't figure out what channel to use, #find-a-channel

[silent dove]

The topic of this channel is:

There’s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If you’re "just asking a question", you're asking for support. Head to https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 to help you find where you should post your question. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

[forest edge]

what I find more curious is the notch in the middle of the door that doesn't even seem to go all the way down to the bottom. as if the door was made with an optional purpose but that door just has that slit filled in.

[warm helm]

because there is a channel for where people actually watch for questions to assist, where as this channel is for me to be a menace to the moderators and make sure they have to earn their keep and scream about the horrifying long furby

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-afraid-kevin-hart-jumanji-gif-10626682

[winter heart]

Got it. Asked there. Thanks.

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/dentist-simpsons-gas-gif-13241604

[forest edge]

Dr. Nick with that voice

[high remnant]

dont make the yellows angry

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/tentacle-futurama-love-fry-gif-19121237

[last cedar]

Ask Kent, he lived in this house in the 1960s. Probably dead now.

Hopefully it is a little more air tight now!

[forest edge]

how am I suppose to ask a probably dead man?

https://tenor.com/view/ouija-board-gif-6831564754703513900

[iron granite]

Get creative.

[last cedar]

All the original doors are like that

Must have been in fashion at the time

I really need to put a proper 30 minute fire door on it, with a threshold. It is a better weather job though

[forest edge]

above that notch it looks like a solid wood door

[last cedar]

I will open it up when I replace it

So you can see!

The other doors have "ribs" (maybe for her pleasure??) And then a sheet over it all

That may be a primative fire door, and solid though

[forest edge]

you should keep the door. stuff isn't made like it use to be. just have it refinished

[last cedar]

It is to the furnace room

If I made a threshold for it, it may be good

You could well be right

I am 100% keeping the metal fire door to the garage though

It is literally a part of the wall

Must be original to the house

When it warms up, I need to put a flue liner in, sort the door and swap the furnace

Chimney is large, meant for burning logs, we burn pellets which is a lot damper and less temperature, chimney is too large

[forest edge]

modren stuff sucks so I would keep anything you could repair/refinish

[warm helm]

https://tenor.com/view/its-literally-fun-fun-enjoyable-kevin-smith-the-imdb-show-gif-11080302

[high remnant]

ragebaiting

https://tenor.com/cBpzZ8QcBQd.gif

[static schooner]

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0701132

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/7xdm.gif

[minor bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/letterkenny-yellow-card-card-gif-15274914

[dusty mica]

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-gif-20237787

[dawn badge]

I just watched this, it's a pretty fun talk. but its definitely an "advanced" thing to do 😛

[forest edge]

nerd talk

[carmine cloud]

Anyone with the Honeywell RTH9585WF1004 smart thermostat able to weigh in on whether they like it for non-Connected use? Thinking about getting one for an elderly neighbor who needs a replacement. (Edit: or the T5)

[vivid wraith]

The what

[scenic radish]

u w0t m8

[carmine cloud]

Sorry. Edited. Honeywell smart thermostat models.

[vivid wraith]

Oh that reminds me I need to look into hardware for the Honeywell security system in my home from 2009, it’s like vista or something? I heard several places sell stuff I can put in or replace in the panel box that will let everything read into HA

[forest edge]

If it's not something for connecting into like HA I wouldn't bother getting anything fancy.

[vivid wraith]

But I’m kind of scared of all these door and window sensors beeping one day so maybe I should just get my own and rip out the security system since I don’t think it does anything else

[carmine cloud]

I mean. I can get one for $12 and would like to be able to program it to her liking. 🙂

But if they suck then I'll keep looking.

[forest edge]

the nest ones are simple enough. you can program them and the person dosen't really need to know anything to just turn and push in to set whatever temps they want

the "learning" aspect of them works ok

[carmine cloud]

Nest has crap fan settings tho. I used to have a Nest and replaced with Ecobee.

[forest edge]

you said for the elderly

really what do you actually need it to do?

[weak musk]

#1284966353798697001

Is where you want to talk about this

[forest edge]

see you there ender

-# now that's he gone, lets continue

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[forest edge]

its not a HA question so this isn't breaking any bylaws

[carmine cloud]

I mean, just basic Thermostating, but her house has pretty bad temperature stratification between upstairs/downstairs. Only option on her current dumb thermostat is to keep the fan on constantly.
She's home most of the time so I don't really need Weekday/Weekend schedules, but daily schedule and random fan runs would be nice. I guess a $12 Honeywell is a decent solution. lol

Just curious if anyone would say "aaah no I used to have one and it sucked because XYZ."

[forest edge]

yea cheap one would work just fine

not saying the honeywells are crap.. it's only when you get into trying to intergrat them into other things like HA would this become a more complex situation

at which point ender's suggestion would be the correct one

[carmine cloud]

Sure. I have some pretty complex automations with my Ecobee and Aqara sensors in every room, but neighbor doesn't need that. 🙂

[forest edge]

I think even some of the cheaper honeywell ones can use those remote sensors for temp balancing between floors

but in all honesty (I use that) it's not that great

all it does is balance a set temp with a range of -6/+6 degrees

https://youtube.com/shorts/2Pj8tTU58kQ?si=ZVeaDnE4gx670Ct3

[robust flicker]

Put a sonoff ceiling fan module in my daughter's room. Guess who found out he needs another AP for his home today.....

I'll see if just pulling the antennas outside the fan dome will help, but inside there it barely works lol

[hoary canyon]

I have an old ADT system that’s based on a Honeywell Vista 20P, have it in HA via an EyezOn Duo and have $12/month cellular + IP UL monitoring

Cost only about $200 for the hardware

[hoary canyon]

Likely the dome is metal- blocking the signal

[hidden vault]

ive been trying to add my fire tv to my home assistant but its been quite a task, has anyone else got a fire tv to be controlled by ha ?

[robust flicker]

Yep, which is why I'm planning to pull the antennas outside of it tomorrow.

[hoary canyon]

You need to enable ADB on the fire tv and then use the Android Debug Bridge integration to connect. You allow the connection on the fire tv (always allow) and you should be good

[forest edge]

notification pop ups on android is ok but after seeing how it's done on apple tv's I really wish they would invest more into that for android

[hoary canyon]

Have you used that notifications for android tv app

works well enough for us

have the doorbell image and stuff pop up

[forest edge]

I still use that old method. can't remember the name of the app i had to side load

[hoary canyon]

try that notifications for android tv app from the play store, works well

native HA integration also

[forest edge]

that looks like mostly just text

I use what I do for camera feeds, images etc

[hoary canyon]

I do also

[forest edge]

pipup

that is the name

[hoary canyon]

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/nfandroidtv/

Definitely can do images

[forest edge]

images

but not video

it looks like

[hoary canyon]

ah I’ve never tried that

I guess you can’t

[forest edge]

pipup works pretty well

but

I wish the timeout could be more dynamic

i think on appletv you can make the video feed popup indefientitly or just auto close based on a trigger etc

which you cannot do with pipup

[hoary canyon]

Set up LLM vision recently, pretty cool stuff

[forest edge]

yea i'd rather just see the live stream lol

[hoary canyon]

I have it notify first with the live stream

then a few seconds after with the description

handy if in the car or somewhere I can’t look

[forest edge]

you can do the text stuff with pipup too, the text gets injected upon creation of the window

so like below my images/video etc it will say what object frigate detected etc

[hoary canyon]

neat

[forest edge]

window timeout part is just what I wish I could play with

play with in terms of it being dynamic while the window is already created

[hoary canyon]

@forest edge https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.homeassistant.companion.androidtv

this seems cool

Has notification support and camera support

[forest edge]

yea there is a few of them. one that is something tv overlay too where you could even popup buttons for you to press directly from the tv to control HA stuff

I just want better control over the camera feed stuff

my android tv dosen't "support" any of those apps as in showing them available from the play store

[topaz delta]

The Venstar T2000 is ugly as sin, but it works great. My only gripe is lack of access control on the local API. I use the thermostat temp to make a fan to equalize the temp in the house.

[tough obsidian]

dumb question: why is there no thread2mqtt ? instead need a matter specific addon ?

[forest edge]

no point I don't think

[tough obsidian]

Well.. one less integration no ? one less container to run/maintain ?

[forest edge]

matter requires a hub/server. hub if you are using an ecosystem or matter server if you are trying to connect like directly to HA

hub and server are the same thing, like a cordinator for zigbee etc

[tough obsidian]

I ordered a new radio for a thread border router but I know that I'll need to setup the OpenThread Router container to use it (I don't have HAOS so its a bit more of a pain apparently).. I guess this would be comparable to the zigbee2mqtt container I currently run.

Then I guess I'll just use the matter integration (doesn't need a container) so I guess it's fine.

[forest edge]

I don't find anything more difficult haos vs container

[tough obsidian]

So far with Zigbee it was a pretty easy... but networking on the OpenThread container seems a bit tricky - but seems well documented

If it wasn't for the ikea stuff I got, I probably would not have bothered tbh.

[vivid wraith]

I added my first two battery devices T.T (ecobee smart sensors)

Rip my sanity

[atomic delta]

I don't remember where I found it, but I use this blueprint for an automation that sends me a Telegram message when any battery drops under 20%.
https://my.home-assistant.io/redirect/blueprint_import/?blueprint_url=https%3A%2F%2Fgist.github.com%2Fsbyx%2F1f6f434f0903b872b84c4302637d0890

[last cedar]

Is there an integration I can use to talk to the birds to tell them to stop eating the deer food, and talk to the deer to stop eating the bird food?

Asking for a friend

Omg we have a Jay

So jays eat deer food, whodathunkit

[arctic quarry]

spoiled gluttons will eat anything smdh

[steel pumice]

rich
bird

[high remnant]

birb

[last cedar]

I absolutely love jays

[dusty mica]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-right-jay-thats-right-jay-redlettermedia-gif-18197908

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/jay-gif-21284168

[steel pumice]

my secondary pc has a matrox card in it

maybe I can use it?

for uhh frigate detector stuff

[high remnant]

my boomer neighbor has gone absolutely balistic again lol. My downstairs neighbor and I have parked on a bit of property that is not a parking spot and he finds that irritating so now he's shouting at me lol

like genuinely screaming

[stiff smelt]

We do not have a local karen 🙁

[high remnant]

you can have mine

[stiff smelt]

maybe for the better, i get enough fun out of them watching them on youtube.

[high remnant]

its frustrating

[stiff smelt]

Yeah i didnt think it through

[high remnant]

its fine

its private parking area :D

cannot get ticketed

[stiff smelt]

As long as they do not start damaging stuff its fine.

[high remnant]

ye

[stiff smelt]

Took me a while to get a good grip on CSS Grid, but its very powerful 😄

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/YzGw.gif

[stiff smelt]

Yeah, that was until css-grid

[minor bobcat]

I had such a fight with CSS blend modes while creating my floor plan

[high remnant]

I am also about to have a fight

I made my noodles WAY to spicy

[stiff smelt]

Oh, i thought with your karen

[minor bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/poop-toilet-smoke-explosion-gif-14222685

[high remnant]

nah

[high remnant]

if I deck him he dies

[stiff smelt]

Solution implemented

[minor bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/boop-deadpool-negasonic-teenage-warhead-brianna-hildebrand-gif-14216702

[high remnant]

neh

I'll just ignore him

I do not feel like going to jail over someone who cannot contain his anger

[stiff smelt]

I may have issues with thinking things through

[high remnant]

its ok

[minor bobcat]

Chaotic Chaos type

[high remnant]

I have been living with this moron for about 5 years now

[stiff smelt]

Yeah sounds cool, lets go with that

[high remnant]

https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/big-half-qualified-americancrayfish.jpg

https://tenor.com/robJTv3PquH.gif

[minor bobcat]

Do you wanna build a snowman

[last cedar]

I already have 2!

I might build another actually

They make great deer carrot holders

[lapis bolt]

made this smart with an esp32 and some relays, any ideas on what to do?

[last cedar]

Building those 2 snowmen was the most fun I have had for a long time tbh

I must be boring as fuck

[last cedar]

VOC in bathroom trigger "biohazard"

Wife presence away > home detected

Use LLM to detect when your children say "dad/mum" in that tone that causes you to mutter under your breath "what the hell is it now"

Any of those useful?

[steel pumice]

i hate tuya so much

[solar zealot]

dont buy tuya --> no issues with tuya

[last cedar]

Tuya doesn't get a lot of love around here

[solar zealot]

its pretty simple

raccoons on the other hand...

[last cedar]

Missy loves it though

2nd to the amount of joy she gets from dangling the carrot of nightmare furby completion

[steel pumice]

thank god its only 2 smart plugs

cuz tuya local stopped working somehow

[last cedar]

I would yeet them and get something else

https://tenor.com/view/online-classes-throw-away-computer-parks-and-rec-ron-swanson-gif-17413463

[solar zealot]

this is the "meat dragon" of the old people

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/lamiskapama-karl-lami-lamas-llamas-with-hats-gif-14446723

[solar zealot]

[last cedar]

I need to watch the series again

I need to top up on psycopath

[solar zealot]

its such a peak thing

[steel pumice]

come on tuya local

youve been stuck like this for over 5 minutes

[solar zealot]

the rumblies, that only hands can satisfy

[steel pumice]

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[dusty mica]

choose gateway > china

https://tenor.com/view/point-at-you-point-you-thumbs-up-two-thumbs-up-gif-12011620888483049526

[lapis bolt]

Tuya is my mortal enemy

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-26713413

Why does all the good stuff have TUYA support and not HOME ASSISTANT support

It’s like these companies hate us

Oh wait…

[solar zealot]

nothing of the good stuff supports tuya

[robust flicker]

For good stuff, look to companies like Apollo Automation, Third Reality, and Innoveli. 3R stuff is great, and is the least expensive of the three. AA makes great stuff, but it's not the cheapest. Innoveli is the extreme end of the spectrum. Expensive, but the absolute very best stuff.

Sonoff is another decent, but cheap option. I have several zigbee relays, switches and smart plugs of theirs. And a wifi fan controller as well. I haven't personally had any issues with their stuff, but I've heard some not so great things from others.

For the UK & Euro folk, Shelly is a good option, and they've recently started releasing some US stuff, but I don't have any experience with their stuff at all.

[last cedar]

Absolute comedy genius

[solar zealot]

kids these days and their toilet heads wont ever create such master piece

[last cedar]

I know, and it is tragic

Apparently the superman S is coming back

[stiff smelt]

I have some tuya zigbee stuff, its ok most of the time. I avoid the wifi stuff like the plague.

I think i had 2 wifi devices, a simple led strip and something else. 90% of the maintenance on my home was those 2 things. Out of... idk a shit ton of devices and automations.

These for example are great:

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/ZG-204ZM.html#tuya-zg-204zm
Oh i see they seem to have issues with getting stuck at a state, i have 18 and none of them have that issue.

[long elm]

Anyone here host a weather star 4000 docker image? I’m wanting to somehow stream this to my tvheadend/jellyfin. I found a project to stream it over rtmp but I’m really not sure what I’m doing with it.

[dusty mica]

https://tenor.com/view/a-what-pam-angela-beyince-sistas-s6-e3-gif-17772736033069748764

[long elm]

https://tenor.com/view/weatherstar4000-weather-star-the-weather-channel-emulator-weather-gif-20757134

That

[vivid wraith]

Oh huh TIL the ecobee extension in home assistant isn’t capable of reliably updating and it’s a problem on ecobee’s side

https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/147264

It was driving me crazy lmao

Well at least the setting of temps works reliably after some faffing about and that’s more important than reliably reading the values

Cause I can just use other sensors for that

Apparently it works fine if you have an API key but they don’t issue those anymore

[static schooner]

The Ecobee servers that work with the dedicated Ecobee integration aren't great either, even if you have an API key. That's why most folks prefer the HomeKit integration for local control

[vivid wraith]

Oof

Well I did finally get the local control working. It not updating in home assistant isnt a huge deal I think

Hopefully someday ecobee fixes it with a firmware update but I’m not counting on it

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

[vivid wraith]

I could try re-pairing it I guess but that seems like a pain with my existing automations

[static schooner]

Even your cameras have cameras!

[last cedar]

Honestly just do it, it could save you a LOT of time, if it doesn't work then you know that too

[last cedar]

I heard about a job, nuclear power station, they had posts with cameras on and no deadspots

The post had 7 cameras, one pointing at the other cameras so there was no deadspot

But what I posted was just jank af haha

[dusty mica]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

https://tenor.com/view/smh-not-me-dog-puppy-innocent-gif-20726073

nukular

[slate mulch]

Tuya consistently working challenge: Impossible

[dusty mica]

if not then yes otherwise no or yes. so.

click here, or there, it's all china. Cleepy

Beach Boys - God only knows and tuya too

[high remnant]

consistency inconsistent is also very consistent

[scenic radish]

[dusty mica]

you think, tu ya?

[vivid berry]

Just setup my new Shelly1 Gen4. Is there any reason to add it via the Shelly integration if I already added it via Matter?

[dawn badge]

i dont know if matter supports all the functions the shelly integration does it not. but if its working for what you need then you can probably just leave it.

[vivid berry]

I'm noticing it's hooked up to my WiFi as well. Is that because Shelly uses Matter over WiFi, not Thread?

[dawn badge]

correct.

[split acorn]

omg its wisconsin!!!

[lapis bolt]

Someone else running WS4000??? You know peak

Get a raspi and hook it up to an old TV, it’s what I did

[lapis bolt]

Definition of the good stuff varies

[long elm]

Wanting to make it authentic and stream mix it in my live tv feed lol

[solar zealot]

if "the cheapest way to make anything" counts as good stuff, i dont want it

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/rule-2-the-best-deal-is-the-one-that-brings-the-most-profit-star-trek-ferengi-rules-of-acquisition-gif-7644915630062921691

[static schooner]

You're a disgrace to all Ferengi-kind!

[minor bobcat]

If you find a single renault clio in Wisconsin give me a call

[split acorn]

That's like

French

I only see dose in Germany before

[split acorn]

Looked like a Malibu with paddle shifters imo

Ducking Chevy driver

[minor bobcat]

nah it's a baguette

[split acorn]

I didn't think it snowed much in Germany

[minor bobcat]

It does!

[split acorn]

No it's doesn't

Nuh uh

I been there once and it didn't snow therefore it doesn't snow in Germany

[forest edge]

looks like a temp job after a fire

[lapis bolt]

I think I went too far back

[last cedar]

Looks like a fucking mess to me 🤣

[forest edge]

why would you have that? why would you add the music?!

[long elm]

I love that

[long elm]

My goal is to turn my tv to a channel and it just be on but I don’t want to add a rpi I’ve got a Roku stick plugged into a rf modulator so I have my live tv coming through the jellyfin app that’s being sent from tvheadend.

[arctic quarry]

deranged. love it.

[lapis bolt]

RF modulator? I transmit my RFs

[forest edge]

so your neighbors watch it too?

[lapis bolt]

Not really

Because nobody has old analog TVs

Also

It’s low wattage enough to be in the legal gray zone

Which is close enough

Planning on getting 2 more if I like this one

And having 3 channels to switch between

[lapis bolt]

I can’t step outside of my office and still see it

That’s how low wattage it is

[long elm]

What a damn flex. I’d like to award you one hell yeah point for that.

[forest edge]

modern tv's tune into the same channels

[lapis bolt]

Yes

[forest edge]

unless where you are from tv's don't come with tuners built in

[lapis bolt]

Yes but most TVs here have satellite tv receivers built in

[forest edge]

interesting

[lapis bolt]

Look up BS/CS Japan

[forest edge]

I been using an rf modulator to broadcast my cctv cameras to any tv in the house but it's a closed loop using coax

[lapis bolt]

If you just hook that up to a tv antenna

With an amp

[forest edge]

then my neighbors would see it too

[lapis bolt]

And then reverse it

[forest edge]

no thx

[lapis bolt]

True

Then it isn’t really closed loop anymore is it

[lapis bolt]

I could have done this

[stiff smelt]

Why not stream it while you're at it 😛

[forest edge]

works pretty good too 1080p

[lapis bolt]

But I opted to have a cleaner look

And bought a premade one that’s a lot smaller

If you couldn’t tell already I am a big RF nerd

[stiff smelt]

I just found out about google home premium, what kind of hoax is that. They have not been into the home automation game for years.

Well, the nest stuff, but thats it

10 bucks a month to let gemini spy on your nest cams and tell you about it when u ask xD

[forest edge]

there is a guy on YT who bought a few of those old station rack mounted rf modulators and streams 24hr cartoons to multiple channels. like one would be like saturday morning cartoons, another would be like simpspons etc

uses in conjunction with a few rpi's

I just hooked my server up to mine and use it's desktop

[lapis bolt]

??? 😭

[stiff smelt]

Yeah it seems its just a re-brand of their nest-aware subscription with gemini integration. As expected nothing new.
I should really recycle my nest speakers, they are only fancy eggtimers now.

[lapis bolt]

What do yall know about Josh.AI

Seems cool but not very tinker friendly

Seems more UI focused than anything else

[stiff smelt]

Never heard of it. lemme check

Well, its magical, thats something

[lapis bolt]

Wish it was more local

I’d switch in an instant

[stiff smelt]

Really? xD

[lapis bolt]

The hardware exists to run locally

[stiff smelt]

Sounds like a vendor lock pro to me

[lapis bolt]

Call me superstitious

But I hate cloud services with every fiber, bone, and molecule in my body

[lapis bolt]

Oh definitely

“Installer only”

[stiff smelt]

Yeah, id miss my node-red chaos first thing next morning

Like, a smart home is nice, but tinkering with a smart home is where the fun is

[lapis bolt]

It’s definitely more for rich ass people who just want a smart home

And don’t want to mess with it

The fun in a smart home is screwing up something

[stiff smelt]

That too

[lapis bolt]

And then figuring out how to fix it

[stiff smelt]

I cant wait until i have time to let some local AI control my home without boundaries and see where it ends up. Im gonna have a blast

[lapis bolt]

Still getting my home re-set up

[stiff smelt]

The wife maybe not so much, wife approval factor -10, but its for science.

[lapis bolt]

Moved recently

[stiff smelt]

Ah

Moved 4 years ago, stll setting up

I doubt ill ever stop setting it up 😂

[lapis bolt]

Definitely want a local AI to talk to

But there aren’t really that many good smart speakers out there

That work

I mean home assistant (Nabu Casa) just came out with one

[stiff smelt]

I got some really cheap tesla p4's for my servers I can load 16gb of LLM into. Cant wait to play with that.
Yeah, then comes the speakers

[lapis bolt]

Niceeee

Yeah

Speakers

Has someone figured out a way to turn an Alexa into a home assistant speaker yet?

Albeit they’re probably more locked down than the pentagon

[stiff smelt]

I have a love hate relation with alexa, i know its possible to do alot with them with custom skills, but i just hate the integration

Still havent set it up correctly yet. I have the speaker for about 3 years now

[lapis bolt]

Right now I am using Apple home pods

Through the bridge

They’re pretty nice for local control

[stiff smelt]

Sorry, apple scares me away, something with being assholes.

[lapis bolt]

As they still work when the internet goes down

[stiff smelt]

Do they sell a unbranded repairable version? XD

[lapis bolt]

I wish

[stiff smelt]

me too Q_Q

[lapis bolt]

I’d just like to remind you that not all apple nerds are assholes

[stiff smelt]

https://raspiaudio.com/product/esp-muse-luxe/

[lapis bolt]

But a majority of them are

[stiff smelt]

I dont blame the people that buy apple, i think the company is an asshole and do not want to support that

Should have been more clear on that xD

[fallow hemlock]

I'm using gpt-oss 20b 4b and it works really well, except I have to turn it off when I wanna play video games

[lapis bolt]

Hmm

[stiff smelt]

Idk just found it, looks very promising actually

How, just how

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=16&v=-FfZs1N-aQw&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fraspiaudio.com%2F

https://tenor.com/view/yama-no-susume-flying-money-gif-26479097

[split acorn]

Esp32 speaker?

[frosty mulch]

Hey, I have a question. I’m new to Home Assistant and wanted to ask if the add-ons from HACS are safe, or if there’s anything I should be careful about, like with the Meross add-on…

[static schooner]

#1284966582375813201

[forest edge]

third reality is going to release a voice speaker for HA this year

[static schooner]

Where did you see that?

[umbral cliff]

In the smart home world Apple is up there in terms of quality though
Given HomeKit is all local by default, far nicer than the default clouds of Google and Amazon

[young sigil]

They are hit and miss. I have one that works perfectly I have another that had unusably low wifi signal strength.

[nocturne condor]

Anyone use wireguard? Would you use it again?

[split acorn]

it has its uses but i prefer openvpn

for a typical admin vpn/jump host

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge see, you could be happy

[fallow hemlock]

I use wireguard on my router to access my network when I'm not home, faster than ovpn

[forest edge]

My neighbor was sitting in a chair in his yard with no shirt and just shorts the other day soo.. you really don't got anything we don't lol

as sad as that is to say since we are suppose to have snow

[nocturne condor]

Thank you I have some port forwarding issues I need to rectify first and then I'll give it a go.

[vivid wraith]

I rate this post cap

LA has had significant Santa Ana winds on Jan 10

Smh my head

I guess most of them
are on the north side

Dam

[hybrid dust]

hey all, i'm looking at getting a meross msg100 smart garage door to make my garage smart - just looking at how it all works now but it looks like there's a reed switch in the box which the meross uses to tell whether the garage is open/closed

i've already got an aqrara door sensor that tells me the same thing - do i need to install the meross sensor? has anyone used it without the sensor and been ok?

alternatively i think a shelly would work as well, but if it needs to be hardwired, i'd need to get an electrician out to do it, so just viewing my options

[iron granite]

#1284966353798697001 might know.

[hybrid dust]

there's not a non thread hardware thing by chance, is there?

[umbral cliff]

Thread being protocol or the discord forum setup?

[hybrid dust]

touche! discord forum setup

[umbral cliff]

Then no

[hybrid dust]

fair - i find them easier to use but i'll check out the discord threads and see if anyone's made a post

[umbral cliff]

Otherwise make your own thread, people will see it

[hybrid dust]

yeah, just made my own since i couldn't find anything - thanks all

[steel pumice]

kinda rare to find weather apps using approx location instead of precise

[iron granite]

It is for your protection, so weather cannot find you easily.

[crisp oriole]

So you remember those clouds in cartoons that follow you when you have a bad day

[lapis bolt]

Simplisafe is such a network hog 🙄

[high remnant]

https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/selfreliant-cheery-dead-ape.png

https://tenor.com/jsoRFs166vR.gif

[crisp oriole]

Wait does that say what it means. Write what your doing and AI gives replies?

What introvert with personality issues is in charge at that company?

[high remnant]

it’s probably a butchered translation. Google keeps prompting me to enable this

the results are bad as the are, adding an LLM to the mix just is a recipe for more disappointment

[scenic radish]

have we learned nothing? 🤣

it's like those Olestra chips or those sugar-free gummy bears all over again

[tidal bronze]

SA winds, yep but died down on Saturday, no cap!

[vivid wraith]

[stiff smelt]

I have 3 nucs laying around, low spec. Wondering wat to do with them. Any cool idea's ?

[weak finch]

I feel stupid 😂 I modified my device tracker in cleanups I did yesterday. This morning I update HA to latest core and another adaptive lighting update. When I got out of bed I noticed stuff wasn’t working. I troubleshot and ended up restoring to snapshot before updates. Then spent 30 minutes troubleshooting and digging in to an automation that wasn’t working I discovered the home thought I was away because my tracker changed entity names. I was away / unknown and nothing that required someone to be home worked. I fixed it and voila! Things worked. 😂😂😂

[dawn badge]

how "low spec" are we talking?

[stiff smelt]

J3455 1.5ghz quad cores

4-8gb ram, but that can be fixed

Should be fine for many things when paired with an SSD

Im thinking of migrating my HAOS to it, off of my proxmox cluster. So i can take that offline when im not labbing.

Well, i would need to find a way to host the rest

[dawn badge]

any dual ethernet?

[stiff smelt]

Proxmox cluster on the 3 nucs xD

[dawn badge]

could run a opnsense router perhaps.

[stiff smelt]

Im more a mikrotik kinda guy and already have a hacked sophos running it :p

I might create a proxmox cluster out of it and see if it can run my daily stuff, could save me some power since my lab is quite power hungry

It may not even be able to run my home assistant 0_o

Is there a way in HAOS to see what's taking resources?

[dawn badge]

get the glances addon.

[stiff smelt]

oh i have that lol

addon_a0d7b954_nodered running 5 days 21.2

I may be using node-red

xD

21% of my cpu's goes to node-red, maybe i should optimize

Oh well, thats not going to work. no way these nucs can run my haos

[dawn badge]

I dont really know that much about node-red. I have never used it. I know the concept of it and I guess why people would like it but I just use the build in automation engine.

[stiff smelt]

Yeah, i come from the old yaml days, never changed my habbit. Also whenever i see someone make automations in the UI it makes me uncomfortable with the amount of configuration for simple things.

Also its easy to create your own functions within node-red based on javascript. I use a lot of custom automations that would be very hard to recplicate in the UI

For example my alarm system:

[solar zealot]

ew node red ;D

[stiff smelt]

Id be lost without it xD

{{ states.automation | count }} = 10

I wonder what those are actually lol

Oh those are just some automations to trigger WOL and such.

Im really surprised how little people use node-red, its so powerful.

[solar zealot]

its also pretty poorly done

[dawn badge]

tbh, I think a lot of the users are like you in the way that they used it back in the day and never changed.

[stiff smelt]

Yeah but there is no way i could even replace node-red with the functionality available in the UI

[solar zealot]

the functionality is pretty much identical, it just doesnt get displayed in such a flow way

[dawn badge]

have you tried?

[solar zealot]

well, minus the need to work around the horendous messaging and input allocation issues with nred

[stiff smelt]

Yeah some of it, might be possible but it would be very very complicated. I'm using custom javascript functions within node-red which i think would not even be possible in HA

[stiff smelt]

What?

[dawn badge]

I get the whole "why bother starting again" but the stock automation stuff is really good and is getting massively improved at the moment.

[solar zealot]

yes its one of the most poorly implemented flow based tools. the need to redeclare properties through additional nodes just for the sake of identifying them as an input, paired with the best luck sync of states makes a lot of things very verbose to say at least

its really not good if you want to do anything but declare process steps

[silent dove]

@stiff smelt I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[stiff smelt]

Since it removed my image...

[solar zealot]

the only difference in thought between the ui and this is that homeassistant wants you to describe your automations as trigger-condition-output

and as the output is a change this is effectively another trigger and so on

[stiff smelt]

Yeah which would make the total automation a big complicated structure in the UI, or am i wrong there