the-water-cooler

[last cedar]

Can't see through glass either

[grizzled gull]

Ahh its the infared

I running a microwae one through the walls

[last cedar]

I once had a (alarm combi detector) that was giving false alarms from water running in a pipe behind the detector

Wasn't the first thing I thought of

[minor bobcat]

I've got a Sonoff radar that randomly goes off at night

Definitely haunted

[last cedar]

Aliens, clearly

Or raccons casing your doormats through your windows

[last cedar]

I know what it up with it, even the name says it "bad"

There is your issue

[minor bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/allomedia-uhlive-gif-12180657312249491853

[static schooner]

I'm always afraid of the badkammer

[last cedar]

You could try moving it say 20 degrees to one side and see if continues

[static schooner]

Seems like a dungeon

[last cedar]

Goodkammers sounds infinately more fun

[minor bobcat]

Goodezimmer sounds dutch

Badezimmer definitely german

[grizzled gull]

You know normally I wouldn't even consider somethign like this, but... there's an entry that makes me interested

https://www.amazon.com/Presence-WenzhiIoT-Detection-Luminance-Assistant/dp/B0D8ZVNVD2/?th=1

【New feature: Supports setting data reporting interval time in ZigBee2mqtt】Are you still troubled by the large amount of data reported by other presence sensors? I believe you will like this feature, the new version supports setting data reporting interval time. Make your ZigBee network less noisy. And this feature does not affect real-time synchronization when the presence state changes. ​ ​How to add this ZigBee sensor to ZigBee2mqtt? ​If your ZigBee2mqtt cannot directly recognize the device,please contact us for JS files.Or search for “wzwenzhi” on GitHub to download the file.

18 dollars I might give it a shot

Also tempted to get https://www.ebay.com/itm/357337643140?_skw=ls10+ultra&epid=27062853540&itmmeta=01K9Z387E6K697GC36HBWQT6E9&hash=item5332fbb884:g:UjIAAOSwyDJlrkJg and put it in the basement, its dirt cheap for a decent vac, but my wife would kill me

[high remnant]

https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/icy-educated-secret-andalusianhorse.jpg oh no anyway

[static schooner]

Enjoy your monthly gift, I guess

[minor bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/loops-in-python-gif-15818798436595170697

[grizzled gull]

I really appreciate the HA community after looking at the Valetudo webpage it reads like the old RTFM thought process, I doubt they intended it that way

[iron granite]

Valetudo is... special.

[grizzled gull]

yeah.. thats a good way to describe it lol, I really want to install it but the documentation is different then I'm used too

I'm sure it looks more complicated then it is...

[crisp oriole]

Nothing a good bad cant fix.

[high remnant]

yep, lol

[warm helm]

What most sites don't have a banned FAQ on their home page?

[minor bobcat]

<@&330946878646517761>

[scenic radish]

Gone

[warm helm]

like adam22's career

[weak musk]

Is Dexter coming for 2026?

[young sigil]

Try #the-workshop no support here.

[last cedar]

Is this the emotional support channel? My window is steaming and I don't know what to do

[glacial knot]

o.0

[high remnant]

heat difference between the inside and outside?

is that tripane?

[last cedar]

Yeah, tripane 🙂

[high remnant]

thats bizarre

also moisture on the inside?

[last cedar]

It was down to -4C outside, so it froze on the outside

And now the sun is being a good boi and burning it all off

[high remnant]

that could be a cause

lol

I see the same effect when I defrost my car

steamy windows

[last cedar]

Phase change is amazing, physics is amazing tbh

Especially raccoon physics

[high remnant]

yeah

the only thing that worries me is that moisture on the bottom of the window

is tath inside?

[last cedar]

No, all outside (thankfully!)

[high remnant]

good!

The only place I see that is on my 80s isopane and on the bedroom windows

not on my tripane

[high remnant]

neat

[last cedar]

Kitchen never gets sun on it during the colder months

[high remnant]

hehe

[last cedar]

Very happy with the windows, we had 1+1 preciously, could barely tell when they were closed

[high remnant]

same

I only need to replace one old window with soemthing new

but that costs like 10k

[high remnant]

this one does the same

its always fogged on the oudside

https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/edible-tedious-pale-aardwolf.mp4

STEAMY

[opal sapphire]

Vorsprung durch Technik xD

peak engineering

[high remnant]

dont get me started

[opal sapphire]

must be the water pump

[high remnant]

this is by far the worst best car I have ever hard

not even

the last failure is one of the clutch plates lol

the uneven plate

[opal sapphire]

yikes

[high remnant]

yep its been a wild ride

[last cedar]

Oooof!

I got mine for a good price and installed them myself

[high remnant]

I live in an appartment complex so I need a crane lol

[last cedar]

You could do like they do in some parts of Asia and just climb out to install AC units?

Absolute psycopaths

I hope to be closer to the ground with the rest of this years jobs anyway

[dawn badge]

some might just say that health and safety is for wimps...

[high remnant]

I did the same to fix a leak

its scary

[last cedar]

I am a wimp then 😄

[dawn badge]

it does keep you safe though 😛

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/you-what-wtf-disgusted-repulsed-reaction-gif-10738812156822245145

[last cedar]

Mostly!

I nearly removed a thumb with a slight slip of the angle grinder one time

Got very lucky haha and just gave it a little shave

[opal sapphire]

AC basically is a human right with how sky high the humidity gets around here

the peak curve is my room with the AC off lmao

[last cedar]

I agree it is a human right, but also disagree that people need to climb out of windows with hopes and prayers to get it done!

[opal sapphire]

well it’s harder to find someone with proper gear here

they’re usually reserved for companies and such

[static schooner]

You were just trying to hasten the evolution to raccoon.

[last cedar]

I am far happier doing stupid stuff for myself, than for other people.

[last cedar]

You would be amazed what can be achieved with a centrifuge and a 3d printer

[high remnant]

I want an AC-unit 🥺

[last cedar]

Or even a 3d printer in a centrifuge

I think I will have to sort an air water heatpump first, I wouldn't be surprised if we are below 0 now for a couple months (and I live in a fairly warm bit of Sweden)

[high remnant]

least cold bit of sweden

[last cedar]

Not least cold, but not most cold either 😛

[high remnant]

I just live in a swamp

[last cedar]

I saw -27C once a few years ago, but those are rookie numbers. We normally get a couple days between -20 and -15 every year, and maybe a couple weeks around -10 ish

[high remnant]

teh fck

[last cedar]

It is very dry though, it is a lot better than shithole UK weather

[high remnant]

the coldest I have seen is -5

[simple gazelle]

November's been super-mild here (London), but next week it's remembering, and we're heading to freezing point

[high remnant]

it’s fascinating that youtube is pushing beginner youtubers to my homepage but dear god it’s such bat content and i’m simply not interested

[simple gazelle]

I'm trying my best okay 😭

[high remnant]

I sowwyyy

[high remnant]

<@&330946878646517761>

https://tenor.com/3rzM.gif

[grizzled gull]

Good morning

[raw tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/baseball-eyebrows-baseball-kid-gif-14099875

[minor bobcat]

I even thought about tagging you!

[grizzled gull]

That reminds me i need to flash the Christmas trees from last year

ohhh new snow flakes this year...

[iron granite]

It is like Pokémon.

[grizzled gull]

4 snowflakes ordered!

[high remnant]

can i be the 5th

[grizzled gull]

Are you a dependent of mine? (don't answer this 😛 )

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/depends-it-depends-depend-depending-gif-9450980667299967764

[grizzled gull]

Totally different topic, anyone see this article, or listen to this song? If I were a recording artist I'd be nervous for my profession, only thing left for them will be live concerts

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/music/articles/ai-generated-country-song-currently-162524186.html

[high remnant]

i refuse to listen to AI music if I have the chance

[grizzled gull]

Agreed, but take a listen its not bad at all

[high remnant]

yeah Ik

it feels gross

[tidal bronze]

AI stuff is pretty darn good. Specially covers rolling back 50 years.

[grizzled gull]

Want to see something awesome, look at eminem as 50's soul version, loose yourself is great

[tidal bronze]

Been waiting for this. Thanks Spotify 👍

[tidal bronze]

Checkout Gangsta's Paradise, electro hip-hop

[grizzled gull]

it makes you realize how good lyrics really are

[tidal bronze]

Agreed.

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/weird-al-yankovic-amish-paradise-gif-3826815

[grizzled gull]

oh my

RIP Coolio

[tidal bronze]

Right?

[grizzled gull]

Only version I found was on youtbue with some idiot commenting over it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQcF_hKZtAs is good too

[tidal bronze]

Looking for the original drop as well.

[grizzled gull]

Wonder if we could Ai the Ai song

[tidal bronze]

I am waiting for a AI mix generator by mood and bpm.

[grizzled gull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChNFZiZ3pQo&list=RDChNFZiZ3pQo&start

Thats good too

only thing that kinda sucks is teh AI soul versions kinda end up all sounding the same after a while

[tidal bronze]

Give it few months. 😀

[grizzled gull]

There's also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B8zsYr1doc&list=RD3B8zsYr1doc&start_radio=1

[arctic quarry]

I'm a composer and producer of 30 years. I'm fine with this.

First of all, given that the article says nothing about HOW the song was made, I'm leaning towards LLM lyrics, genAI singer, and mostly human / DAW composition. The current state of the art is that full tracks are quite far away -- I suspect the context window needed for making an entire song is just too large to understand things like melodic structure, chord progressions etc. Compare the "AI movies" that made the rounds a few months ago -- just a human burst prompting and then editing 5000 shots down to 50 manually. And the result was fucking atrocious.

we'll get there, no doubt, but I think it's wise to use the same filter here as with anything else: Generative AI is a useful tool at best, a slop dispenser at worst. There's zero reason to believe generated music will be any more successful than LLM poetry or Midjourney "art."

in fact, given that music lags pretty far behind image generation, it'll probably stay the least developed (and therefore least interesting) subgenre of genAI.

[high remnant]

i sure hope so lol

[crisp cliff]

Does anyone have a zbdongle-e? I want to know if I can just plug it in out of the box or if I need to flash something else on it to connect zigbee devices to it.

[high remnant]

here he comes

[iron granite]

Please create a post in #1284966617670881350 with the "Zigbee" tag. This is not a support channel.

[crisp cliff]

Cool thanks

[hazy hinge]

Is there a channel for documentation?

[static schooner]

what about documentation?

there's a #find-a-channel to find channels, too 🙂

[hazy hinge]

Welp apparently I don’t have that one turned on…

Was just looking for a place to make a suggestion about the main HA documentation site.

[weak musk]

@last cedar https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/raccoons-are-showing-early-signs-of-domestication/

[golden wing]

How did I not know this existed? Ceiling mounted PoE Apollo R PRO-1 might be the perfect presence/occupancy sensor

[golden wing]

maybe not. i'm not a fan of rectangular detection fov if ceiling mounted. my ideal scenario probably still light switch mmwave

[civic sigil]

Some day... some day I will pet a domesticated racoon.

[stuck mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-time-its-time-gif-12353011

[civic sigil]

🫳
🦝

[last cedar]

I think that is clearly clickbait

They have always looked like great pets

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-raccoonfly-kouenren-gif-22758629

Apart from that one

Some nice patterns this morning

Had -7 overnight

[high remnant]

clear your windscreen before driving! this is dangerous

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/head-out-car-window-hamid-barkzi-feeling-good-fresh-air-vacay-gif-23978293

@high remnant

[high remnant]

I've been rear ended by someone doing this

(my heater didn't work ahhh moment)

[arctic quarry]

yknow if this is what actually happens, it would explain a lot of "Windows is so bad now" talk

[warm helm]

I actually did that

[minor bobcat]

Can't even install my Windows Cleanup utility since that update

[sour copper]

Switch your moms iPhone with an android running grapheneOS and call it feature update

[molten glacier]

I found a "may be bug" in HomeAssistent.. when opdating something with "backup first" you can't see that is start.. befor you get impatient and try to start update once more and get a error.. backup is busy..

[static schooner]

I believe that's been reported already

[silent dove]

Want to see what issues are open (or were open and are now closed)?

• The core (backend) - for HA itself, and integrations
• The frontend (UI) - for cards and display issues
• The Supervisor
• HAOS
• The documentation

Don't forget to check for any alerts

If you think an upgrade broke something then:

1. Downgrade to the previous version to check if it works correctly there
2. If it does then change the logger settings for that integration to debug
3. Upgrade to the new version again
4. Look in the logs for errors
5. Open an issue, following the template provided and including the log information

[molten glacier]

@static schooner cool 🙂

[narrow galleon]

Has anyone here had any luck updating Tradfri bulbs Ikea via ZHA?

[iron granite]

#1284966617670881350 with the "Zigbee" tag might be able to help

[haughty helm]

Just found the ability to fix statistics. Thanks for that feature!!!!!

[high remnant]

no but i am slowly replacing them because they burn out lol

;-;

[last cedar]

Will this do?

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-it-is-so-beautiful-amazed-gif-19543022

[last cedar]

Hopefully Rainbolt isn't on the discord or I guess y'all be knocking on my door soon

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/traffic-fbi-open-up-raid-gif-13450966

[minor bobcat]

According to Google, this is either germany, sweden or russia lol

[last cedar]

I will take it 😄

[high remnant]

i haven’t seen such an empty road in forever lol

[arctic quarry]

INNER PEACE
2025
Artist: Michelle

Price: Not for sale 😛

[dusty mica]

according to statistics, it would be 1:Germany 2:Russia and 3:Sweden...

[arctic quarry]

according to knowledge, it's Sweden

[last cedar]

Oh yes it is Sweden

[iron granite]

It might also be Sweden.

[dusty mica]

@arctic quarry you won

[arctic quarry]

\o/

[dusty mica]

damn statistics

[arctic quarry]

numbers are slippery

[dusty mica]

when wet..

[iron granite]

Lies, damn lies and statistics.

[arctic quarry]

if we had some GeoGuessr-head in here they'd probably go "ah, the road lines are wrong for Russia and the asphalt indicates permafrost winters, which Germany doesn't have"

[dusty mica]

or AI..

[iron granite]

In Germany I know those snow poles beside the street just from more alpine regions (aka snowier regions).

[stuck mortar]

Statistics say there’s around ~5M households in Sweden, so better start knocking.

Conduct a survey of the general thoughts about raccoons in Sweden while you’re at it

[minor bobcat]

Yeah the orange poles gave me a hard time

And also the missing penguins

[high remnant]

i have one of those too

[arctic quarry]

<@&330946878646517761> ⬆️

[iron granite]

Gone.

[arctic quarry]

so fast

[swift prism]

I think this doesn't look visually great :/

(even if all of them were different songs or some were off)

maybe i should leave it to just volume control

[dreamy pelican]

I know this isn’t supposed to be here but im not sure where in support id ask and i honestly dont think its possible im looking for a way to reload a integration that stops polling sometimes only way ive seen is watching its last check and after some time restart HA entirely

[young sigil]

#find-a-channel

[restive cipher]

I set up an automation that turns my Christmas tree off if it tips over (i have cats this year). Just a cool thing that ive never seen anyone else do

[hearty elm]

hi

[dusty mica]

10 points when hit

[forest edge]

bad time to live in or near the palisades

[idle oyster]

Ok, I'm an idiot, where exactly is the core.config_entries file relative to /? I am running HAOS and I'm on the command line and I can't find it anywhere, I'm going crazy

[dusty mica]

\config \ .storage

[idle oyster]

ok is there seriously not ANY other command line editor to use in HAOS but VI?

I'm going insane, literally all i need to do is edit this one file

[tough obsidian]

So my wife bought these smart plugs from Costco and there doesn't seem to be any native HA support for them. A bit of research showed that they are likely tuya plugs and can flash some custom firmware that will allow me to use an mqtt plugin with them. I am very tech savvy and not intimidated by any of the steps involved (even though I have no clue what all these plugins and components do atm), but seems like a whole lot more trouble than it's worth. Smart thing to do is just return them and order some others that Will work with HA, without needing all these extra hacks right?

[idle oyster]

TBH I bought a few that I flashed with tasmota. It seemed rather daunting but it actually went super smoothly, I found a few guides online and tasmota rocks

[austere anchor]

There’s a few addons that have gui editors like VSCode and a basic text editor. I use the Advanced SSH addon and in there I have Neovim with all my usual dev environment plugins installed.

[idle oyster]

ok so I'm using an addon right now to edit the core.config_entries file but every time I do, and restart homeassistant, the value has been reset. All I need to do is change ONE IP address...

[ocean oar]

I just deploy mine using the deprecated supervised method, so I can use whatever tools I damn well please. They can pull it from my cold, dead fingers

[austere anchor]

Might be worth a thread in #1284966540617449515 to see if there is something special going on. Or just remove and add again.

[austere anchor]

I mean… you can still use whatever tool you damn well please with HAOS too. You can run any CLI tool in a container (like the SSH one) or any GUI tool after mounting with Samba.

[glacial knot]

why provide anything but the best?

[ocean oar]

Still less convenient. Though TBH I'm just fine with vi

[arctic quarry]

vscode with haos set as the ssh remote = zero issues

[last cedar]

I would say this is more "control and oversight" than elegant design, depends if the control part is crucial for you or not

I don't think it looks bad, but there is a LOT going on in a small space

[swift prism]

https://tenor.com/view/psyduck-shake-head-pokemon-cute-gif-17397859

[sacred mist]

I decided to create a local weather forecasting template sensor that uses the barometric pressure (current level and derivative helper over a 3-hour period) and humidity from a bme280; mostly relying on chatgpt for the algorithm

has some obvious issues (chatgpt included some extra stuff in there that it didn't end up using, also I doubt the thresholds it selected for low pressure and rate of change are correct) but I'm excited to see how it compares to the accurite weather station it's pulling the temperature and humidity data from

[robust flicker]

🤣💀

[stuck mortar]

Paint me like one of your French poodles

[tough obsidian]

So I went ahead and did the tuya-convert thing from a docker (was really pretty easy) but it ended up reporting that the device was non-esp32. It reported only one MAC address though (probably my phone so not sure they even connected to the AP). Oh well.. back they go.

[warm helm]

Now that I certainly have more android tv devices then displays

[tough obsidian]

Can someone provide some links for smart plugs that they know work well with HA without too much fuss ? Maybe something on AliExpress ?

[static schooner]

#1284966353798697001

[smoky current]

waiting for the aqara fp3 to come back in stock on amazon, need a bunch of those. I don't think there are any other battery operated pir/mmwave sensors out there?

[young sigil]

You could ask in #1284966353798697001 with the recommendations tag.

[smoky current]

no, i'm wrong.

nah just making conversation for fun

[stuck mortar]

Sorry, this channel is for serious conversations about raccoons only

Silly conversations about possums also permitted

[forest edge]

https://dos.zone/

how cool is that lol

[warm helm]

And naps.

Because it's always nap time unless it's bed time

[whole jungle]

the difference between the solar power generated by my panels after i cleaned them last night (wish i could make these in HA more easily :P)

[young sigil]

You mean like this?

[whole jungle]

yeah 👀

[high remnant]

my internet connection is down, now I cannot change the thermostat at home

because I have been a fool XD

(I cannot access HA via LAN due to firewalling)

[young sigil]

Check out ApexCharts and if you have any questions #1284965988642590891 the option you want though is offset: "-1d"

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/randy-g-commercial-877trash-now-gif-19278130

[minor bobcat]

That's dangerous

https://tenor.com/view/danger-steveerwin-wooo-gif-14568078

[high remnant]

yesnt

[wraith pier]

It's finally happened. I've officially kicked Alexa out of my home for being annoying and useless.

[glacial knot]

🥳

have you invited Ok Nabu! yet?

[wraith pier]

Working on it... For now all the automations, reminders and other stuff using alexa media player need to be rewritten to use tts or similar.

Seriously, how a global IT company that runs literally half the internet can suck at AI that much is beyond me.

Actually, come to think of it, if one looks at their attrocious rufus, that explains a lot.

https://tenor.com/de/view/denethor-kicks-pippin-lotr-gif-26902014

(as seen from Amazon's perspective 😛 )

So it looks like I need to build a few simple smart speakers now, because outfitting my whole house with extra sonos speakers would break the bank...

[weary bone]

Hey folks! Has anyone successfully set up a smart “home” network (home assistant or otherwise) in their office, specifically at an on-site job (ie your office on company property).

Did you need to get IT involved? Would I be able to do this with a cheap WiFi router? I could even defer all control to buttons/devices in the room, rather than needing to go through some web server or something.

I suppose everything would have to be local control only, unless I could get permission from IT to allow my local (office) network to connect to the web

[high remnant]

I didn't because I am IT.

[wraith pier]

As an IT security professional, I can say hackjobing something like that is definitely a bad idea. Consumer-grade home automation equipment isn't built to corportate IT security standards. If you'd really want to do that, you'd have to turn to professional building automation, because having consumer-grade automation in your system would be a veritable security nightmare. It's all about attack surface. Imagine one of the new stealth warships with all angled surfaces to reduce radar cross-section, and mounting a big, fat, round water tank on top. Or, perhaps imagine a bank with a multi-ton super-secure vault door installing a regular wooden door next to it so the cleaners can get in and out. The only way I could see that is if it was 100% separated from any and all of the corporate network, and even then stuff like voice assistants and whatnot would be and absolute No-No in a corporate environment.

[weary bone]

That’s what I was assuming. And your analogy makes perfect sense.

I do work at a church that does a lot of technology integration in house (the team I just joined). Maybe they know of something I could set up.

But, sticking with consumer stuff, If I take my own router, and only plug it into the power outlet, then connect all the wireless stuff to only it, I could get a Bluetooth device that could serve as the trigger when my phone connects…… could something like that work? I’d have to stick to brands that don’t require any kinds of accounts (i am totally ok with that… practice for my own home network)

Would that be a viable setup? Would I even need the WiFi router?

[wraith pier]

Maybe you should go a little more into the details of what you are trying to achive.

[weary bone]

Good call. Mostly lighting. I want to walk in the room and have lights turn on. I could just use an occupancy sensor as trigger and have it completely “phone free”.

So “entrance controlled” lights on. And the ability to change colors/brightness or other settings, even if only presets.

[wraith pier]

If that's what you want, I'd either semi-smart bulbs with integrated PIR sensor, or if you INSIST on making your life difficult, you could try something like Switchbot which works on bluetooth alone.

You could also turn to a philips hue system which at least when I last checked happily worked without an internet connection. A little TPLink wifi-to-lan bridge could probably bridge the gap to your phone, but I haven't tried that particular use case yet.

Maybe they've even enabled the wifi radios in their bridges by now, who knows?

(yes, hue bridges DO have wifi built in, Philips just never bothered to fix their firmware to use it. Some people have even managed to hack their bridges to enable it)

[weary bone]

Hmmm.

I know that our house has motion sensing bulbs that work on “radar”, but they are only on for maybe 30 seconds at a time, and require constant close motion to stay on.

I guess they make PIR sensors for things like LED strips too, right? I’ll want to have some of those as well.

From what you’re saying, it sounds like my particular application isn’t really covered by most consumer products.

[simple gazelle]

I had been wondering if there was any use of Home Assistant in a thing that is Not A Home, like corner shops or other places where you won't have some dedicated facilities contract and a lot of the fittings are more home-like

[high remnant]

i had my winter tires fitted by a local shop in stead of the dealer. They didn’t bother balancing my tires

https://tenor.com/view/mike-exe-gif-18254638

so anoying

free massage tho

[arctic quarry]

excellent choice of gif

[hexed fern]

not sure if allowed, im building Home assistant in proxmox and looking for wha the recommended base is
proxmox/ubuntu/docker Home Assistant
proxmox/Home Assistant OS/HomeAssistant
thanks

[grizzled gull]

Not a support channel, but it really depends if you want to manage addons or not, if you don't mind managing them do the container, if you want a more curated experience do the OS

[hexed fern]

dont mind managing the containers and might move them around (3 node cluster) but i understand that updates are a pain when that is done?

would i be able to ets say run a Frigate in host 1 but home assistant in Host 2?

[scenic radish]

You'll want to make a post in #1284966540617449515 about this

[weak musk]

Proxmox and ha OS is popular. For anything more see tediore’s comment

[high remnant]

yes it’s also VERY accurate lol

[thin pond]

Hi I'm not sure if this fits any channel, does someone know how to reverse engineer a communication protocol? I have an HVAC system with a dumb wall controller, they communicate over RS485. I want to begin with something relatively easy and passive like reading the temperatures, and then get to things like creating controls for home assistant

I have two MAX485, some arduinos, raspberry pi and esp32-cam for now but I will order a normal esp32

I've connected one MAX485 to the interface passively and I have some hex data but I'm not sure how to time the packets and stuff like that

and I can't really find the temperatures in these packets even when they are updated

[static schooner]

#the-workshop would be the place

[rough fiber]

Hey guys, I'm having some issues installing HOAS on an old laptop. could anyone point me to the right channel to get help with that?

[dawn badge]

#1284966540617449515

[rough fiber]

thank you

[long elm]

Hi everyone. I don’t think this is the right place to post this so if I’m wrong just call me an idiot and I’ll move elsewhere.

I’m wanting to play a sound through my Google nest speakers. I have them in my HA already but idk how to do media player. I’ve done research I see that everywhere but I can’t really find it. I found it in states but it doesn’t really seem to me what I’m after. Any ideas?

Edit: for instance I want to play a song at a specific time of day.

[hoary canyon]

Google Cast integration

[long elm]

I have that but maybe I’m too dumb lol

[hoary canyon]

Use Music Assistant in an automation to play the song

[long elm]

I’m not seeing that as an option

[hoary canyon]

Music Assistant is a seperate addon you need to install

also has an integration alongside it

[long elm]

Ok I see it. I’ll play around with that. Thank you!

[rich vigil]

Greetings

I'm super new and I've tried using AI to help me which failed as it keeps referring to old documentation. Can someone shave time off my struggle and help this be fun?

[iron granite]

#find-support

[tawdry plover]

Are the options only Sonos or diy?

[wraith pier]

That's what I have so far. What other options did you have in mind?

[stuck tree]

Hi all, new to all this. About a year now and have come across a problem that i cant solve. Not sure where is best to post so thought I’d try in here first.
Basically the time in home assistant has gone funny. So for instance it currently 7:47 and HA thinks it 7:25.
No idea how this happened, but when i check logs to see if things are triggering all the times are incorrect and there for not starting automations at the right time. I have checked my time zone and all is ok.
Any idea?

[silent dove]

The topic of this channel is:

@stuck tree There’s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If you’re "just asking a question", you're asking for support. Head to https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 to help you find where you should post your question. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

[high remnant]

aight boys I have requested new quotes for an heat pump

https://tenor.com/6CTN.gif

[iron granite]

A flamethrower is also a heat pump.

[high remnant]

you know what I mean 🥺

tbh pyrolytic cleaning my house does seem like a good option ngl

https://tenor.com/baLHM.gif

be gone thy fugging soil flies

[minor bobcat]

Every pump can heat

Just give it enough power

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/ralph-wiggum-simpsons-hi-bye-gif-16529059407582436389

[minor bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/danger-to-manifold-warning-sign-gif-12138369

[high remnant]

RIP cloudflare

Times to place bets: is this caused by DNS?

[crisp oriole]

Caused by dns has terrible betting rates. Wont make good money

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/bKTyj.gif

[simple gazelle]

It's not DNS
There's no way it's DNS
It was DNS

• /u/ssBroski
  - Michael Scott

It's DNS, BGP, or SSL

Always one of them

[high remnant]

You're missing the Russians/Chineese/State actor

[crisp oriole]

Time sync

[crisp oriole]

Clueless policians who want to ban vpn

[simple gazelle]

Oooh good call, clock drift is a Certified Hood Classic too. When we had half our machines misconfed we got some weird login issues on apps

[high remnant]

fugg this keyboard sucks

also do not underestimate operator error: I once fell head first into an router and took down a big portion of our network

[crisp oriole]

I have a laptop that did funny things with the time when it came out of hibernation

[simple gazelle]

"What year is it?"

[crisp oriole]

4 months agp.

[high remnant]

that is how I feel when I wake up after a 8 hour powernap

[crisp oriole]

8 hour powernap? That is a dinner on snacks

[high remnant]

ikr

sometimes you just kinda pass out after a day of work lool

!remindme 72h move home asisstant to another tunnel in stead of cloudflare

[simple gazelle]

VM snapshots can do that too, but that's more understandable, the machine literally has no idea it's been effectively between clock cycles for... two hours

[high remnant]

only if you suspend the machine rite?

well the funny thing is the downtime is intermittend

[crisp oriole]

Do you have haos. There is a free addon from some please trust us organisation

[high remnant]

which is that?

[iron granite]

Cloudflared

[high remnant]

oh yeah I am running that

unfortunately

it was still on my todo to yeet that away and to move over to Tailscale like I did with jellyfin but ... time

[crisp oriole]

https://homeway.io/

[high remnant]

I'm good I have a tiny hetzner server that I'll be using lol

costs money but I have everything under controll

[high remnant]

( i hope I do not offend anyone but this is exactly why I went selfhosting lol)

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/zoidberg-bender-futurama-fry-amy-gif-17047462121025430388

[crisp oriole]

Me 2

[high remnant]

the downsides of working from home

[lapis cairn]

The downside would be if that bar was at zero.

[high remnant]

true

but this costs money

M O N E Y

[iron granite]

But without working there would be even less money for coffee.

[high remnant]

I can rob a bank

[high remnant]

realistically it is a trade-off driving there or working from home. Time vs Money

[glacial knot]

You forget the cost of driving there

[high remnant]

company car

[glacial knot]

And fuel?

[high remnant]

covered the company

[glacial knot]

Neat

[high remnant]

yeh its kinda neat

but its also taxed as income if I use the car for private trips

that is not neat

[lapis cairn]

Money only exists to satisfy your coffee addiction

Its a social construct invented by big paper to distract from caffeine

[high remnant]

and monster energy

lol

[scenic jasper]

cloudflare fucks up
can't add the ZHA integration to my local HA install

how did we get here?

[chrome pasture]

Woah a fellow Dutch motorcycle and HA fanatic @high remnant

Hi

Figured I will have to use my spare time today to setup tailscale rather than openvpn from my nas today, still cannot reach HA using my VPN

[scenic jasper]

can report that tailscale works flawlessly to access HA

using Headscale on my VPS with pub IPv4

[chrome pasture]

Awesome! Do you have it running via proxmox perhaps?

[scenic jasper]

yea

well, the one I have in headscale is running on a pi barebones

[chrome pasture]

Ooh okay, still looking for a proper specialneeds guide

[scenic jasper]

also you can't install anything on your HA right now

I guess because of the cloudflare debacle

did you use the community script for your proxmox setup?

[chrome pasture]

I did yeah! But I was dumb enough to upgrade to proxmox 9 so lots of the helper scripts aren't working anymore

[chrome pasture]

I figured, my mates were complaining about this just now haha

[scenic jasper]

i also upgraded to proxmox 9 before i installed HA but had no problem with the script

[lament shell]

I now have jabra speak in every room

Is that overkill?

[scenic jasper]

I got a bunch of zigbee stuff a week ago and just got my gateway in the mail about an hour ago

can't wait to install it

but alas

smth smth cloud smth distributed

yet when aws or cloudflare go down, it takes down half the internet

[chrome pasture]

Ngl, somewhere its quite funny that we rely so much on a single service

[high remnant]

i am exposed. my cover is blown

[chrome pasture]

Ahahaha

Theres many many more of us here

[high remnant]

how’d you know lol

[chrome pasture]

Shoei helmet in your pfp, and you just posted a picture that said "espressomachine" and something Kast

And your dc username is dutch

[high remnant]

😂😂😂😂

fair

could be Belgium

[last cedar]

And here I was thinking that Gimly would be offering his Axe to aid us

[chrome pasture]

Huehuehue

[chrome pasture]

True

[chrome pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/pixelbandits-lotr-my-axe-my-ax-have-gif-1507189071929163713

[high remnant]

but no i have probably waved at you if you ride a motorcycle

[chrome pasture]

I do, look at my servertag hahaha

[high remnant]

oh lol

[chrome pasture]

Do you still ride rn?

[last cedar]

Would be hard to ride and type on discord tbh

[high remnant]

nope too cold and there’s salt on the road

[high remnant]

not really tbh

[last cedar]

Sorry, I will stop

[high remnant]

🙈🙈

either way i get angry looks lol

[chrome pasture]

Ooooh, ur from upnorth? Theres no salt where im at

[last cedar]

I have promised my kid that we will both get bikes but we need a garage first

[high remnant]

south holland

[chrome pasture]

Wait that might be too dox-y

[chrome pasture]

Oh, thats where I'm at

[high remnant]

nah it’s randstad so good luck

[last cedar]

Rainbolt knows exactly where this is

[high remnant]

put it in the living!

[chrome pasture]

, is there salt already now?

[high remnant]

idk maybe friends said so

[chrome pasture]

[high remnant]

haven’t looked at the strooikaart

also i only have full leathers

https://tenor.com/view/frozen-freezing-cold-shivering-glace-gif-4206910866563313498

[chrome pasture]

What a sexy beast, I'm a (moto)jeans type person

[high remnant]

naaaah

[chrome pasture]

What do you ride?

[high remnant]

too dangerous lol

CB750 and soon an s1000r

[chrome pasture]

Naaaaaah, its AAA rated

[high remnant]

still i feel naked riding like that

ahahaha

[chrome pasture]

Jacket as well AAA and full lvl2

[chrome pasture]

Ouhffffff, nice

[high remnant]

i get that but it’s scary

[chrome pasture]

I ride a street triple gen 1

[high remnant]

those are cool

1050 iirc

[chrome pasture]

Nah I have the 675, the 1050 is a speed triple

[high remnant]

ahhh

[high remnant]

010

[chrome pasture]

Yesssiiiiiiir

[high remnant]

those are cool

[chrome pasture]

Talking motorfietsen in HA and talking HA in Motorfietsen

[high remnant]

yolo

it’s water cooler so it’s fine

[chrome pasture]

Yeah, funny crossover tho

[mossy flame]

[chrome pasture]

Maatjeuhhh

[mossy flame]

Fix maaaah bluetoooooth

[high remnant]

👁️👄👁️

[chrome pasture]

If you fix my tailscale

[mossy flame]

No

[chrome pasture]

🙁

[normal storm]

Plug cloudflare back in pls

[chrome pasture]

Its DNS

[normal storm]

Impossible, it's never dns

[chrome pasture]

Great takeover guys

[chrome pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/dns-burger-king-guy-gif-5192992856867283004

[simple gazelle]

Who broke the lava lamps

[chrome pasture]

Cloudflare did 🙁

[simple gazelle]

[chrome pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/poooh-johndeere-trekker-gerrit-gerritsweerproat-gif-12840655

[mossy flame]

$bike

[chrome pasture]

I almost did this

[normal storm]

love the landscape, so mountainous

[chrome pasture]

Looks like the lekdijk

[high remnant]

yeah, the utrechtse heuvelrug gives me the heebiejeebies

[chrome pasture]

Aaaah

[high remnant]

it’s correct sir

[chrome pasture]

Bro we could be neighbours

[high remnant]

let me guess: nike air max and short pants?

[chrome pasture]

Are you one of dem flipfloppers

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-hide-gif-26822036

[chrome pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/gixxer-bbq-gixxer-gixxer-bro-gif-3321890545651683820

[scenic jasper]

it's back?

[mossy flame]

What's back

[chrome pasture]

Nah

[mossy flame]

[chrome pasture]

It goes up and down the whole time

[scenic jasper]

at least the discourse sites load now

i.e. the whole home-assistant.io doc

[mossy flame]

It doessss not for me

[scenic jasper]

icons in my HA are back too

like jfc is it too hard to store those locally after the first pull?

[mossy flame]

That indeed works again

[mossy flame]

I don't think you'd want too tbh

[scenic jasper]

why not?

why is the literal "Sun" icon pulled every single time I open my dashboard?

[mossy flame]

Because I don't want 500 icons

[chrome pasture]

Lmaooooo true true

[mossy flame]

For stuff installed, sure

[normal storm]

Idk an icon font isn't that massive

[chrome pasture]

They could locally cache the icons I suppose

At least the icons that are being actively used

[mossy flame]

This I agree with

[scenic jasper]

yea exactly

and what are even 1000 icons of a few kb on your local storage compared to hundreds being pulled thousand of times a day

like, that must be so much wasted energy globally

my SSD is powered on regardless

[chrome pasture]

In the meanwhile, my biggest conplaint is the way the GUI is changing inside making automations

[scenic jasper]

i was able to install the ZHA integration

[chrome pasture]

Editting automations on the go is very icky rn

[mossy flame]

Super annoying tbh

[scenic jasper]

now it takes ages for my first zigbee device. Idk if it's normal of it needs to pull its device info from somewhere remote, too

[mossy flame]

Shouldn't

Should be local

[chrome pasture]

I got downvoted to hell when I commented on reddit that I hate the new GUI

[mossy flame]

On PC it's nice

[scenic radish]

yaml4lyfe

[chrome pasture]

Its "alright"

[mossy flame]

Bro

[chrome pasture]

Fugly

[normal storm]

I mean, first mistake is editing automations on mobile

Not like it was better before

[chrome pasture]

Nah, some people aren't as active with pc's than others

[normal storm]

Sure, but people that use home assistant

[chrome pasture]

I mean.... at work yeah

[simple gazelle]

I dare suggest that people who use HA skew towards Battlestations rather than Mobile

[high remnant]

oké they rebalanced my tyres the vibrations are almost gone but turns out one rim is bent

[chrome pasture]

Same here bromie, front wheel got a uppie bump, there are almost no companies here in the region who fix it

[chrome pasture]

Ha, yeah my desktop in HA is called gamestation

[high remnant]

i don’t believen them lol so i am going for a second opinion

the car didn’t have this before the swap

bending a rim is something you HAVE to notice lol

[chrome pasture]

Oh I thought you meant the bike, theres quite a lot of garages who can fix that for quite cheap, but for bikes theres only 1 or 2 companies here who do it

[high remnant]

nooo my car. unfortunately

[chrome pasture]

Luckily car rims are cheaper tho

[normal storm]

They forgot to plug in my tyre pressure sensors for the third year in a row when swapping on winter tyres. Never attribute to malice..etc

[high remnant]

are they lol

[high remnant]

nah they balanced them trice. i’ll go for a second opinion regardless

[chrome pasture]

Yeaaaaah, aftermarket car rims will set you back like 50-100 a piece, meanwhile mine for the bike costs 300-500

[high remnant]

those are scary as hell

no i drive too much for that

[chrome pasture]

Ahhhh fair nuf

[high remnant]

those aftermarket rims are the ones that get all bent to hell and back by simply driving

i’ll probably opt to either getting this one fixed or getting OEMs

which ever makes my want to cry the least

[chrome pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/therethere-feel-better-headpat-headpats-headpatsduck-gif-2423808354704986102

[mossy flame]

Ehhhhhhh

I am not home all the time

So often a phone is used for some stuff

[chrome pasture]

[scenic jasper]

dang, never thought that adding a PIR sensor and automating my light would feel so premium

ad it's easy af to setup

just a shame that the PIR sensor reports "active" for too long

gotta set the light to turn off immediatly

[narrow pollen]

How do I see the changelog in the home assistant developer builds?

https://releasealert.dev/dockerhub/homeassistant/home-assistant

[last cedar]

You might be able to tweak that in z2m

But it is outside the scope of this channel

[high remnant]

I am tweaking already

[high remnant]

i used to live in 010 but i moved away about 7 years ago lol

[chrome pasture]

Poah

[high remnant]

ahahah i can do it faster, allegedly

[mystic chasm]

Got to remember it’s not always a complicated problem. Spent a day trying to get HA to recognise a Zigbee Dongle and the issue turned out to be a fault in the extension cable 🤦‍♂️

[chrome pasture]

@mossy flame maybe thats your issue as well

[mossy flame]

Nah

I don't need an extension

But still, the wifi chip(onboard) won't send out bt info to the os

So I guess it might be dying

Just like that usb port

[chrome pasture]

ahhh, wait it was a wifi/bt chip in one

[mossy flame]

[mossy flame]

Yes many devices have one in this day and age

I'll wait and see, tomorrow a nvme comes in so I can swap to a more modern device anyway

Will restore from before 2025.11.2 and go from there

Nuc has been serving me since 2015, so it's not surprising it's on its last legs

[urban viper]

The https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1440400734062645360 thread is now open for y'all to share the upcoming holiday deals on smart home hardware.

This will be the pinned post in #1284966353798697001 until the deals stop flowing.

[minor bobcat]

What in the port layout?

[civic sigil]

Internal HDMI... is this for a kiosk?

[mossy flame]

Passthrough 🤨

[civic sigil]

Interesting guess but... pass-through from what?

[minor bobcat]

Intel B60 Dual GPU

Each GPU gets a single HDMI output

[mossy flame]

Who knows, kiosks have some weird stuff going on, bringus studios does videos on that sorta stuff from time to time

[mossy flame]

Ah okey

[minor bobcat]

Server thingy so it's just for debugging but still funny

[last cedar]

As long as it doesn't use 12V HPWR it is a win in my book!

[minor bobcat]

I think it has

Article mentioned 12V 2x6

Which could be anything really

[last cedar]

Speaking of which I should really grab a new PSU, mine is well out of warranty now, and I guess it has degraded a little component wise

[last cedar]

Hopefully 2 standard pcie power jobbies

so it doesn't set on fire

[mossy flame]

Kinda reminds me of a PC case I once had for a VR PC that had HDMI on the front panel. Fun times

[minor bobcat]

Does it turn off your breaker when plugging in? Mine does that now lol

[last cedar]

That sounds lovely tbh

[last cedar]

Haha it is not that bad!

[stuck mortar]

That’s just the magic smoke generator. it’s a feature

[last cedar]

It is a corsair AX850, the original one

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-mighty-omega-gif-22253898

[minor bobcat]

I've got an original Silverstone Strider 850

It has seen more than 850W back in the day

[stuck mortar]

I had to retire a UPS that rebooted hard when my PC shut down

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/jennifer-lawrence-eek-gif-21343163

[mossy flame]

Ever had a ground issue where if you dropped something on your desk the PC would just shut off

Fun stuff to figure out

[minor bobcat]

2015, R9 295X2 and i7 7700K, so good

[stuck mortar]

Back in my heavy gpu compute days, I had an APC UPS that screamed in agony when I exceeded its rated power

[mossy flame]

In my mind the 7700k is still very recent

Kinda weird, it's ancient at this point

[minor bobcat]

Whole setup like this can't even encode h.265 i think

[mossy flame]

I don't think so

[lusty dirge]

I am still rocking my RX 6600 GPU unfortunately I had to buy it when the GPU prices were high

Only sad thing is no hardware av1 encoding

[minor bobcat]

Any iGPU? My N100 Server can do that?

[lusty dirge]

But then its software based encoding

Intel supports av1 hardware encoding for a while now

My AMD iGPU does not for example

[minor bobcat]

Ah yeah AMD has always been weird about that

[lusty dirge]

I just bought a cheap Intel arc 380 and I use that for video encoding on my server

I am so excited about the announcement tomorrow I hope they announce a new voice related device

[static schooner]

#1440336618572615821 message

[lusty dirge]

Ah sad

[minor bobcat]

It looks like a paper towel holder, smells like it and tastes like it. You know what it will be!

https://tenor.com/view/pepsi-never-seen-a-taste-like-this-drink-wave-gif-16451915

[iron granite]

A robot vacuum with a warning light, so you don't stumble over it.

[stuck mortar]

Need a robot vacuum: New York edition. “Watch it buddy, I’m cleaning here!”

[mossy flame]

A zwave stick but this time it's as long as the Eifel tower

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/on-the-way-ghostbusters-we-are-coming-columbia-pictures-100-gif-83352962672765196

-# I know you can hear the sound now.

[last cedar]

What about a warning possum?

https://tenor.com/view/opossum-cute-roomba-eat-eating-out-gif-16016450

[static schooner]

I was thinking that I can hear that despite the silent GIF, and then I realized that I have no idea what possums sound like

https://a-z-animals.com/blog/sounds-possums-make-and-what-each-means/

[stuck mortar]

I believe it’s saying “watch it buddy, I’m riding here”

[static schooner]

3. Possums Make a Clicking Sound to Attract Mates
   But officer, she was literally asking for it!

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/borzoi-siren-dawg-with-the-light-on-him-sailorzoop-dog-gif-2844905554045249724

i have the same with this

[spark fog]

Mh. Do you guys think a petition to viessmann for opening API to control the heat pump and vicare products locally would have any success? Especially in light of the current cloudflare outage making it impossible to remotely control their products because their app doesn't work?

[dawn badge]

no

[high remnant]

no there is no advantage for the shareholders

[spark fog]

here's hoping some open system exists if I ever plan to build my own home

[minor bobcat]

Viessman is too long in the business and too German to do that. Look at Bosch, that their smart-home stuff barely connects to anything but theirs is a miracle

[spark fog]

well, sadly the only company that replied for the installation in my current home makes viessmann installations only - not that I could find one that allows access

I still write them e-mails with my hopes, wishes and misgivings, not that they would care to answer them

could of course try with an EU petition but I doubt that it would garner enough interest because it's fairly niche

[minor bobcat]

Well Eltako recently surprised me with them joining "Works with Home Assistant" their HQ is just few km from me and I thought they wouldn't be that open either, so surprises can happen lol

[dawn badge]

a more generic petition to EU to stop this issue happening in the first place by forcing local control on xyz devices. might get some traction. but it will also likely go nowhere.

[spark fog]

I'm not socially active enough to give an impetus but I'd certainly sign it and share it in my circles

I'm also kinda miffed about having 2 parallel zigbee meshes that interfere with each other and wifi

[dawn badge]

although first they need to fix their USB regulations. if they tell companies to use USB-C etc... they must enforce that they use it as per detailed in the usb spec.

[spark fog]

you mean the weird trend of having USB-C 2.0?

[high remnant]

companies suck

[dawn badge]

EU: "you must use usb-c"
company: just chop off x connector and put a usb-c connector on there

[kindred ember]

Any recommendations for an LED strip/controller that works with HA and doesn't require a cloud API? <Glares at Govee>

[dawn badge]

now instead of having a bunch of different chargers that only 1 fits and works with your device. you now have a bunch of chargers that all fit and look the same but only 1 of them works. and 1 or 2 of them might blow your device up.

[high remnant]

#1284966353798697001

[iron granite]

Hi-Speed, Higher-Speed, More-Higher-Speed, Really-High-Speed

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-clarkson-speed-speed-and-power-gif-27212846

[minor bobcat]

I've got a cheapo LED work lamp, it only likes the most craptacular charging setup, I know exactly what you mean

[dawn badge]

need people making the rules that understand the implications of the rules...

did Spain fix that issue with half the internet getting turned off during football matches yet?

[minor bobcat]

I hope it doesn't affect the F1 GP next year lol

[dawn badge]

broadcaster complained and convinced judge to block pirate streaming sites by ip during matches. but some of the streams were behind cloudflare etc... so judge ordered cloudflares entire range (and others just using cloudflare as example) to be blocked during matches.

isp's did as they were told. and chaos was had. big airline lost all access to some of their systems. "sorry you missed your flight we would love to help get you on the next one but could you come back in 2 hours when the football has finished"

[high remnant]

you cannot fix stupid

[high remnant]

christ

[warm helm]

That is something

[hoary canyon]

Anything running WLED

[high remnant]

i am not sure what CF did but the tunnels are garbage

[raw tulip]

We think it's pretty neat! It can be gang box mounted as well. We have both visualizations on our Apollo Wiki: https://wiki.apolloautomation.com/products/rpro1/setup/rpro1-general-tips/

Let me know if you have any questions!

[golden wing]

gang box mounting is less appealing because i'd rather just have it in my light switch if i was planning on putting it on a wall anyways. ceiling mounted poe esphome presence sensors is theoretically the holy grail of home automation (in my opinion) but this product comes just a bit short because of the limited fov. if i'm going to mount something in my ceiling, i'd like it to be able to detect presence in my entire room

[ivory fjord]

I’m happy with my hue bridge pro, but there’s really nothing I can do with my old bridge (besides sell), right?

[grizzled gull]

So confused, going to sign up for Frigate+ but then the warning says it doesn't support facial recognition, but when you look at the documentation it does...

[golden wing]

The visibility isn't the concern

Sorry the word appealing probably gave off the wrong impression lol

I just mean that if I'm going to put something on a wall, I have no reason not to use one of the dozens of mmwave light switches on the market now

And if I'm going to put it on the ceiling, I'd like the detection coverage to actually cover the whole room instead of just a rectangle

Which is why I said that product was almost a holy grail product, it checks a lot of boxes (PoE, ESPHome, ceiling mount) but doesn't check the last one I actually care about (actually detecting the whole room)

Doesn't have to be perfect 180 lol it's on the ceiling

But it also doesn't have to be a rectangle where one dimension has a lower FOV than the other

(which makes sense for a wall mounted mmwave sensor, just makes less sense for ceiling mount imo)

The point isn't the number being high

The point is not having a sensor that can detect 150 degrees in one orientation and 120 in another

Or whatever the real numbers are

[unborn merlin]

I mean some products (i recently installed a rheem heaatpump waterheate for someone) it has wifi and etc. but learned after the fact it has an RS485 "debug" service port thing that can also be used to control it.. and someone has already documented it and etc. 😄

[unborn merlin]

do the RF sorcery yourself.. make a flex pcb. 😛

[dusty mica]

Look at Quinled controllers.

[unborn merlin]

govee's matter supported devices. 🙃

[spark fog]

I think viessmann has only an optolink interface

[unborn merlin]

https://deploy-preview-2737--esphome.netlify.app/components/optolink.html

looks like that alaready exists?

or https://github.com/dannerph/esphome_vitoconnect

🤷‍♂️

dig a little.. alot of these things people have already gone and done the old thanos.

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042

[spark fog]

Well, I’ll need to dig into it, but setup with optolink is a bit more involved

[unborn merlin]

I mean.. its a diode and a phototransistor

not that involved. 🤷‍♂️

[spark fog]

And I was under the impression that optolink was read only

[unborn merlin]

https://github.com/openv/openv/wiki/

judging by this.. doesn't seem like it has to be? 🤷‍♂️

[spark fog]

More in the sense of having to slap parts on it I don’t have lying around, I don’t tinker around much. Would have preferred using the existing LAN module

[spark fog]

Openv can only listen in on the zigbee devices

Iirc

[unborn merlin]

This wiki collects information about the Vitotronic heating controls. The focus is on the PC connection Optolink interface. All system parameters can be read or set via this interface. This includes, for example, temperature measurements, device states and settings but also switching times and consumption data. Depending on the application, far-reaching possibilities open up:

read?

looks like the esphome component also has setting/selecting stuff too...

so probably depends on the hardware used.

[grizzled gull]

I've offically delegated my gaming GPU to sit here and idle for a local LLM :/ 7900xtx :/

[spark fog]

My eyes are not awake enough yet, I’ll sift through it later if I find sime spare time and motivation to get into it again

I only know that when I first looked jnto it, there was optolink and listening in on the zigbee devices which require additional stuff I don’t have or don’t solve the issue with coexisting independent networks

In the end I’m looking for a satisfactory solution and am annoyed that viessmann seems to be hostile in that regard

And it’s hard for me to find motivation for more involved projects that require tinkering

[unborn merlin]

an LED and a phototransistor is.. pretty low level tinkering.. 🤣

[unborn merlin]

and also..

welcome to basically all companies with only a few not in this.

[spark fog]

I also wanted to check if I can use the service password for anything

[spark fog]

I’m at a very early stage in this 🥲
And I’m not exactly brimming with motivation and drive to do things

[unborn merlin]

.... welcome to homeassistant tinkering. 😛

its only gonna get done if you want it done.

... and looking over at #the-workshop where someones discussing working on decrypting the RS485 protocol of their other sorta system to deal with things.. oof

[spark fog]

Thanks. I also need to work on myself for it, but that’s just how it is

[unborn merlin]

🤷‍♂️ such is how a lot of these things go..

i have waaay too many incompleted things

[boreal zodiac]

Huh, sure is taking a long time to process this command in this raspberry pi I'm SSH'd into...

yeah, it's time to go to bed.

[iron granite]

Waiting for the SSH timeout.

[boreal zodiac]

yuuup. 😄

oh well. pihole v6 needs something with a little more oomph than a Pi 3 B+ anyway. Time to put it on a Pi 5.

[high remnant]

I bought another one specifically for this lol

[crisp oriole]

Interesting. Orange. Is the color of the dutch royal house. We use it for football and other stuff. But now the next WK the dutch royal house has two counties to cheer for.

[glacial knot]

WK?

[iron granite]

I guess football/soccer world cup is meant.

[high remnant]

Wereldkampioenschap: World Cup

[fresh raven]

Anyone using any EPG integrations or just using webview?

integrations seems like an overkill, then again I can't find a site without ads 🙁

[mental peak]

My Tado Wireless Receiver X broke and my house has been freezing for 2 days ffs

Have you found anything?

[simple gazelle]

At this point I'd be considering jumping the wires myself to command heat

[dusty mica]

brrr

[high remnant]

or setting them on fire

[high remnant]

iirc shelly has some

[raw tulip]

Those are the correct numbers. To our knowledge the LD2412's FOV of 150 is one of the widest available. The LD2450 has an FOV of 120. In our testing of the HLK mmWave sensors, they are actually surprisingly close to 180 of detection, but they don't promote that. There is also a vertical angle of around 70. It should easily cover most normal rooms. Here is a better visualization.

[golden wing]

Wait so it's 150 in a cone shape and the different fov's are just the different sensors? I'm a little bit confused, the last time I looked at the docs it seemed like the sensors were orientation sensitive

[mental peak]

Have you bought them? I know there's a lot out there, but I don't trust it. I bought Tado because it's a trusted brand

[raw tulip]

Yes, it comes standard with the LD2450 which has a cone shape FOV of 120 and 70. You can add the optional LD2412 for 150 and 70. They both work together. The LD2412 seems to better with static detection specifically.

[golden wing]

120 and 70 meaning that it's not a pure cone shape? What I'm trying to figure out is if I have a square room at roughly the maximum dimensions of the sensor, am I going to have to choose a portion of the room that I need to just accept will have weaker detection than the same areas in line with the sensor orientation?

That's what I mean and what I'd like to avoid in a ceiling mounted sensor. It just seems like a waste to go through the effort of putting something in the ceiling if it's not gonna actually be able to uniformly cover the whole room

[raw tulip]

To my knowledge it is a cone/oval shape with a 120 degrees of horizontal FOV and 70 degrees of vertical FOV. It is mostly represented in the image above, but also imagine if this new image was combined.

[minor bobcat]

For some reason my Sonoff 5.8ghz sensor detects me when I stand behind it lol

It's got that 360 tech yo

[raw tulip]

It is scary. Haha.

[minor bobcat]

And I really dont want it to...

[raw tulip]

Another one.

[golden wing]

ok i'm still confused but is this a publicly available tool?

[raw tulip]

Which tool?

[golden wing]

the one this is a screenshot of with the sensor fovs and coverage zones

[high remnant]

i have not yet

[mental peak]

Since Tado X uses Matter, can we just use HA?

[high remnant]

probably. I do not have the X

[mental peak]

I have the X

I bought the X because it has Matter

[raw tulip]

These are generated in GPT and Claude using the sensor's datasheets. No specific tool or anything. Although, that would be incredibly useful if you could input your room dimensions and show the different sensor FOV's... Hmm... Do you know any good UI people?

[midnight adder]

Fake News

Home Assistant Connect ZBT-2

• Chipset: Silicon Labs EFR32MG24 (Zigbee 3.0 & Thread)
• USB bridge: ESP32‑S3 (USB‑serial)
• Antenna: High‑performance, optimized for 2.4 GHz — up to 4.16 dBi gain for improved coverage
• Software support: ZHA, Zigbee2MQTT, and OpenThread Border Router
• Design: Meticulously manufactured to hold two rolls of fluffy toilet paper

(would be kind of sad if it doesn‘t support Zigbee 4.0 and Suzi/Zigbee Sub-Ghz, guess that will be the ZBT-3)

[minor bobcat]

Doesn't mentioned paper towels

[scenic radish]

Zigbee 4.0 was just announced yesterday 😂

[midnight adder]

And I can‘t find a supported chipset. But it does feel kind of sour buying a product without the newest standard.

[scenic radish]

it doesn't mean chipsets or devices will be available right away

[high remnant]

i’ll hate matter no matter what

https://tenor.com/view/tv-simpsons-cloud-fist-grandpa-gif-12082744756246344299

[scenic radish]

obligatory would you say it doesn't matter to you?

[mental peak]

why

[mental peak]

wtf I thought Thread and Matter were making Zigbee obsolete?

[midnight adder]

no?

[mental peak]

Why are there so many competing standards

[scenic radish]

https://xkcd.com/927/

xkcd: Standards

Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

[lone dagger]

It's rude to make assumptions. 😉 Just tune in today, y'all.

https://tenor.com/view/apocalypse-xmen-mutant-ensabarnur-magneto-gif-18262420

Curious to know where you got those specs, though.

[midnight adder]

I‘m sorry. I was just repeating something I saw in youtube chat and wondering wether is was true. Will definitely tune in today. :3

[high remnant]

because i have nothing that speaks matter lol

it’s just irritating

[scenic radish]

I'm using matter-hub to expose HA devices to Google Home which is pretty cool

that's my only experience with though

[high remnant]

it’s also forcing me to rebuild my network which is even more infuriating to me

[scenic radish]

I ditched the Google Assistant integration as a result

[lone dagger]

Rob should tell his story about getting Matter to work. 😂

[high remnant]

please think about my hearty

https://tenor.com/view/meme-angry-punho-fechado-de-gif-26104429

[static schooner]

I also made it hard on myself on purpose because I like pain

[scenic radish]

https://tenor.com/view/pain-dont-hurt-patrick-swayze-pain-doesnt-hurt-double-douche-road-house-gif-27617485

[static schooner]

I insisted on doing everything manually with containers on a Debian server, which...isn't recommended

[high remnant]

only docket makes me hard

[static schooner]

a side effect is that I'm now fully ipv6 compliant on my home network and local servers

[nocturne orchid]

Is there a way to to turn on a area but exclude one device?

[glacial knot]

[high remnant]

i must admit that i have completely disabled ipv6 so ill never get it working

[glacial knot]

I need to set it up again since I switched to PPP directly on my router instead of the ISP box

[dawn badge]

I did get ipv6 working but had to disable it again because it basically bypassed my dns level filtering on some stuff.

i am sure i could get it mostly working again but it wasnt worth the effort for me at the time.

[exotic bane]

Evening everyone

[dawn badge]

new pages on the website ready to be switched on?

[exotic bane]

You betchaaaaaa

Just prepping all the PRs and stuff ready, gonna be a fun night

[static schooner]

Raccoon Army....Assemble!

[ivory fjord]

anyone have xsense smoke detectors? surely this should have triggered it right lol😂 I had tested it over thicker smoke too but didn't snap a photo

[hollow glacier]

https://tenor.com/bVjp7.gif

[ivory fjord]

lol I made sure to have smoke enter the vents as well. manufacture date is 2025. figured I'd do a "real world" test despite the test function saying all was well

[stuck mortar]

So you’re why ipv6 rollout has been so slow

[iron granite]

Everyone is waiting for Suf to turn on IPv6.

[static schooner]

Network Influencers have too much power

[dusty mica]

ipwhat

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-jon-picard-captain-gif-19151002

[high remnant]

if it were up to me we’d skip ipv6 altogether

[minor bobcat]

Go straight to ipv8

[high remnant]

indeed

[minor bobcat]

I want a rackmount switch just to get more blinking lights, am I mad?

[dusty mica]

ip7of9

[scenic radish]

ipv67

[iron granite]

Yes

[dusty mica]

want lights?

[high remnant]

why is there a naked woman on your rack

[dusty mica]

got no clothes maybe?

[static schooner]

hey, I was just testing my 3D printer, alright?

[crisp oriole]

yeah clothes are hard to make

[hollow glacier]

needs more diffuser

[dusty mica]

still playing around with it, today implemented that ledfx sh*t to work with line in and send it to wled. What a mess... Will try your suggestion tomerrow 😉

[tough obsidian]

New to HA, and looking at getting some stuff for automations. In my AliExpress cart now, I have some Matter smart plugs. I also put a zigbee dongle in there cause I am a bit annoyed that I can't just go to Ikea and buy stuff I may want to use (I know the DIRIGERA hub can do matter, but I wouldn't buy that).... I heard that the plugs, etc, will eventually be matter-only in summer 2026 - is it still worth getting the dongle (seems to be about 15$) ?

[hollow glacier]

ideally you'd have aluminum channels to help dissipate heat plus they come with a diffuser to give you a better stream of light. it wont be perfect without deep channels though you'll still have the circles and dead spots

i think some silicone diffuser for the leds would be better here

https://www.amazon.com/BTF-LIGHTING-Silicone-Flexible-Spotless-Installation/dp/B0FPFT1RGW?th=1 they make lots of different shapes and sizes

[dusty mica]

yeah agree, but black alu frofiles are placed with black fiffs

[hollow glacier]

ah ok

[dusty mica]

its hard to see, but that was the plan.

[hollow glacier]

ya dude you are missing all the switchports

[vivid ridge]

https://mediarath.de/products/home-assistant-connect-zbt-2-zigbee-3-0-thread-usb-adapter-efr32mg24-esp32-s3 🤫

[dusty mica]

Plan is to hook up my vinyl record database to do a voice search (ok nabu, pink floyd album pulse) and let wled pinpoint roughly where it sits in the cabinet. At least that is the goal here.

[hollow glacier]

haha that's crazy but sounds cool

[hollow glacier]

what if you paired it with a matrix panel that displayed the album art of the song playing

[dusty mica]

album art already displayed on picoreplayer and 2nd display on amplifier 😉

married, so...

[hollow glacier]

everyone needs a matrix tho

[dusty mica]

and i need a doctor if i ask my wife to buy another led thingy

i like them though

[arctic quarry]

I'll just leave this here

[iron granite]

NO SPOILERS!

[arctic quarry]

sowwy

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/tee-hee-gif-16693466337760164069

[minor bobcat]

its a candle

[mild onyx]

what is dis and why is it black

[thorny stratus]

This is the question I'm holding out to know the answer to as well! I dont see alternative colors available at any of the resellers.

[ocean oar]

Paper towel holder

[iron granite]

Just a lighting illusion. The device is white.

[arctic quarry]

is it like the dress

[warm helm]

1? You need multiple

[ocean oar]

Network hardware should be neither seen, nor heard

If you can see the blinkenlights, they're far too close to you 😉

[arctic quarry]

now they tell me

[high remnant]

its bigger

[stuck mortar]

Something something wavelength

[static schooner]

#1284966617670881350

[stone jewel]

I cant seem to get HACS updated, all my stuff isnt loading correctly

[iron granite]

#find-support

[stone jewel]

i cant find anything on it

[iron granite]

If none of these seem to fit what you are looking for
Head to this channel to get pointed in the right direction. ⁠#find-a-channel

[ivory fjord]

so for ZBT-2, we need to migrate each device individually? at least if you're on z2m?

[iron granite]

IIRC, no. Migration docs will follow soon. #1284966617670881350 can help with details.

[wide dagger]

do the .1+ releases follow a schedule?
edit: they're released on fridays

[scenic radish]

how did I just learn that it's possible to convert those cheap little square Xiaomi thermometers from Bluetooth to Zigbee OTA??

that's so sick

i flashed the pvvx custom firmware on them years ago but obviously i'm gonna switch them to zigbee

[scenic radish]

I also just learned that 0.9 repeating is equal to 1 which kind of blew my mind

[glacial knot]

Huh? How did you go through school without encountering that?

[civic sigil]

I thought that it wasn't equal but rather a limit?

Like how as x approaches 0, 1/x approaches infinity.

It's like, one step away from the fundamental theorem of calculus.

[atomic delta]

Ayyy, I had my first failure of a previously decent Tuya (zigbee) device. A smart plug decided it was going to keep going offline. It has now been replaced by a thirdreality one.

[high remnant]

its "snowing' a little bit and the entire country descend into chaos lol

[dusty mica]

What is a "decent tuya device" lol

[high remnant]

the one that is in the trash

[devout musk]

Are blueprint suddenly broken? I had a blueprint for my hue switch on the hue integration. But now when I want to use it it doesnt show the switches in the dropdown is this something specific for hue other model name or something or did something change for blueprint in the last few patches?

Found it, EDIT: for some reason the model changed from Hue dimmer switch (RWL021) to Hue dimmer switch 🥹

[iron granite]

#1284980040940912641 might know.

[agile plover]

Maybe you knew about it, but the author of the renowned site haveibeenpwned.com website uses HA : https://www.troyhunt.com/home-assistant-ubiquiti-ai-home-automation-magic/

[minor bobcat]

He surely uses Password123 to secure it

[glacial knot]

HUNTer2

[scenic radish]

all i see is asterisks

[arctic quarry]

⃰** ⃰ ⃰** ⃰

[iron granite]

Please don't type your passwords openly.

[minor bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/big-boobz-the-office-the-office-password-gif-21256054

[thorny heron]

I went the extra mile and just put tablets in every room on the walls 😛

Pixel density is a bit nicer haha

[hollow glacier]

These are still fun I wouldn’t replace a tablet with them but still like the options

You can do some cool stuff with the esphome firmware too

[thorny heron]

Ah! The hockey score is nice haha

[ornate cosmos]

Hi everyone, I'm new to Home Assistant. I just got it installed on my server the other day and found it comes with a todo list, which I instaltly started using and love better than Google Keep. I also created an account for my woman to get her on, but we can see each others notes. How do I make it so we can choose what notes are shared and what notes aren't?

[dusty mica]

#1284966582375813201

[atomic delta]

Their zigbee devices are mostly decent, if you can get past pairing hurdles. I use their temp/humidity sensors and their buttons all over the place. Definitely prefer thirdreality devices for things like bulbs and now smart outlets though.

Mind you, they're only decent because of the quirks that automatically fix them. They break spec like nobody's business.

[scenic radish]

Philips/Signify released a Zigbee device (Hue Secure Siren and Chime) that uses all custom shit instead of the standard things that already exist in the Zigbee spec lol

[atomic delta]

Ooooooof course they did.

[minor bobcat]

Philips always broke standards

[scenic radish]

This was another level though

[minor bobcat]

Look at the amount of quirks their Gradient Lightstrips need

[minor bobcat]

Yeah the secure stuff is worse tbf

[scenic radish]

I will say, it was fun to reverse engineer though, so I guess I'll thank them for that...?

[unborn merlin]

how dare you!?

now its not "secure!" anymore!

It was supposed to be secure for their shareholders!

FOOL!

[minor bobcat]

Welcome to German documentation standards

[dusty mica]

Dont know what i hate most right now... my last beer went into my pc, so mobile for now...

Think the last beer bothers most

[static schooner]

I wouldn't trust a drunk PC to be very reliable

[dusty mica]

Neithervdo i

Aaaargh mobile and fat fingeers

[lapis cairn]

I'm sorry for your loss

[warm helm]

What if I am drunk too?

[dusty mica]

Were sorry

[dusty mica]

Then you have entered alc the right way, as i should have done too lol

[warm helm]

Quickly.

[civic citrus]

Guys GUYS MATTER 1.5

[dusty mica]

Quickly, sadly wrong destination

[civic citrus]

WOHOO!

[civic citrus]

Theres a reason why I dont buy their shit

🤣

[minor bobcat]

Hue stuff is probably the most solid from a big player on the market

[dusty mica]

Beer intrusion point... hairdryer, qtips and toiletpaper... powering up now.. fingers crossed

bloody thing survived... hardcore

[static schooner]

Just had to sleep it off

[dusty mica]

🙂

[warm helm]

Given it was water but I had a fridge bust its water line and poor through a projector. Stupid thing still works

this is now years later too

[dusty mica]

yeah water would be ok, but sodas and beer will eat the board away over time

same as cat pee

[forest edge]

the shelly pre black friday sales are really shit. it's like they marked up the price prior to slapping a meager discount on to it

[dusty mica]

just like hue

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