the-water-cooler

[forest edge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/3Yd-SLDOXPA?si=khT-H-lKzNbgidyW

[high remnant]

come get some i have some

[ember heart]

A question for regular users here-
I havs used Home Assistant for 4 years or so now and have a fairly extensive setup including haos servers at 3 sites (home/work/parents). Since I also "roll my own" devices, I do a lot of posting/reading on esphome's discord server. I also come by here and.. I just don't get as "drawn in" here if that makes sense. I post rarely here and also dont spend as much time reading folks questions to see if I could possibly help.. I was musing a bit as to why that is. Im thinking it kinda feels like the "threaded" approach used in the esphome server tends to keep me reading whereas the individual .. uhm.. forums? chats? (Not sure what its called) method used here just seems more "opaque" to me.. any suggestions on how you folks typically visit here and methods you use to participats/contribute most effectively..? 🤔

[forest edge]

to long to read, sorry

if I wanted to settle into a novel I wouldn't have come to OT

[static schooner]

hard to see how threads are different from posts in that regard

[high remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-text-anime-atatürk-türk-gif-20655969

[ember heart]

Reply to short to be useful, sorry 😝

[ember heart]

Im just trying to figure out what makes a difference.. do you participate equally on ths two types of server approaches? Im trying to see if maybe im missing something

[static schooner]

I don't contribute much on the ESPHome server. I just see a lot of messages asking people to follow the rules and not post logs and such in the main channel and to create threads

in other words, they want people to create threads, and we expect people to create posts here. 🤷

they have much less traffic overall

[ember heart]

Yeah.. really ought yo have a bot for that.. that said tho, i tend to go through almost all the threads.. do you go through all the.. posts? What is it called they use here?

[static schooner]

I read the titles and see how many replies they have

[ember heart]

I guess it could be the larger user base here.. as u said, they do have less traffic..

[static schooner]

that's usually enough to decide if it's worth going further

I know nothing about Ring devices and there are already 6 replies. Moving on...

[ember heart]

Heh all i know about ring is i unistalled all mine and replaced with non cloud/subscription devices lol

I guess i see your approach.. i should try it out. Thx 🙂

[warm helm]

I am over here looking at solar generators and panels right now

[ember heart]

Oh. Is there a way to nudge a message thats had no replies? I posted something last week and got zero responses.. should i delete and repost or something?

[static schooner]

you should just reply

in the existing post

[ember heart]

I have solar panels and got screwed over by the company. They sold me panels based on a payment plan that was dependent on my electric company keeping its programs. They changed and now i pay an electric bill AND a solar panel payment. 🤬

[warm helm]

neighbors are suing the company they used too, 17% effiency when they promised 80%, those idiots also installed the panels facing north though.

[ember heart]

For the first 6 months or so it was as they explained, one payment for the panels and no payments to the electric company.. then the electric company changed their buy back policy and boom.

[gusty belfry]

It would take $1000 for me to just get approved to have rooftop solar. And apparently a lot of insurance companies will not insure them or your roof if you do an install.

[gusty belfry]

Bulk surplus panels and used inverters are the way to go. Have pros install the lattice and you do all the rest. I could get 10kW for $11k that way. But still not really worth it because power here is relatively cheap.

[warm helm]

I am not doing roof top yet to many trees. I am also not going to do a grid tied system yet. Current plan is a shed with solar on top and move some of the servers out there. Also going to use a battery to just power inside stuff during peak pricing

[ember heart]

My panel production right now:

[gusty belfry]

119 MWh lawdy

[ember heart]

I have a server shed with AC and four servers..

[warm helm]

I don't even need that much solar to run my n100 cluster which is more than enough power to run most of my mission critical services

[ember heart]

I think thats lifetime and weve had the panels about 6 yrs

[gusty belfry]

I have a shed but it's full of mice.

I wish it was full of servers.

[warm helm]

you can fix that

[ember heart]

How many watts do your mice draw..? 🤔

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/frustration-me-cute-hamster-gif-15049505

[gusty belfry]

after I fix the sprinklers, and the lawn, and the car, and the garage concrete, and the garage drywall, and the moulding, and the....

[static schooner]

they're part of teh production

[ember heart]

One nice thing about that total daytime output is i can run mu house ac to 70dF in the texas summer and solar covers it no prob 🙂

[gusty belfry]

Net metering is zero. I removed most of them with a shop vac.

[gusty belfry]

I want to do that and the server shed. But i need to put a new roof... well, more like I need to put in a whole new shed. The thing is a mess.

I have nowhere to put a rack in the house that wouldn't deafen everyone here.

[ember heart]

I had my first unraid server in the master closet in a fractal r6 case.. with the door shut it wasnt loud but it raised the temperature in the closet a LOT. I had to move it somewhere cooler

[gusty belfry]

I have louvered closet doors and zip tied 140mm fans to them and powered them via USB. Stays cool and the R7 is happy enough. all the drives stay below 45c

The entire system with networking is around 220w

[ember heart]

Heh.. mine grew a smidge since then.. three 24 bay nas cases.. two threadrippers, one old intel dual zeon, and about 1/2 a petabyte of spinning rust 😬 🤷‍♂️ 🤦

Unraid jbod is addictive.. u can just keep on plugging in drives! 😃

[gusty belfry]

That's one benefit of TrueNAS. You gotta NEED more storage, not just want it.

[ember heart]

And in the server closet, no one can hear the fans scream! 🤣

[gusty belfry]

I have a while before I need more, which is good because drive prices are going insane.

I can about double my movie library before I need to worry.

[primal laurel]

Prices have dropped so much you can get 10kW of panels for about 2k

[warm helm]

though i have another 22tb on my coffee table

[ember heart]

I started my unraid journey by shucking the external drives that woukd go on sale.. it was always fun to see what you woukd end up with .. ya never knew 🙂

[warm helm]

used panels are cheapppppppp

I am looking to put 2 400w panels on a shed. Current server rack draw is 150w

[primal laurel]

new panels too. I can buy a 430W panel for 50 eur

[ember heart]

One of my unraid boxes...

[warm helm]

I am maxed on drive slots right now or i'd probably be there too

[ember heart]

Im still trying to retire any drives smaller than 8tb

[warm helm]

I did that, now I am working on the 10Tbs

I also have the arrs working on upgrading media to h.265 for space savings

[ember heart]

I have one unraid box that is sorta my drive graveyard 🙂 i put all the drives that are failing in some way in smart values.. interesting to see how they fail before they actually stop working

I use disk location to keep track

[forest edge]

Gobble Gobble

[solar zealot]

look at all those chickens

[static schooner]

Turduckens in the wild

[high remnant]

my naggy neigbor doesn't like it when I arrive atr home with my music still on

:(

[scenic radish]

wut

[high remnant]

yeah I had my music on and the roof open

now she's texting me all pissed off

[peak slate]

I assume this isn't one of those situations where your music is so loud it sounds like your door panels are falling off

[high remnant]

well

not really

I already turned it WAY down

[forest edge]

if your neighbor can hear it. it's too loud

plain and simple

[high remnant]

Welp no

roof is open

she's always like this

[forest edge]

you said late? what does that mean?

oh nm

i crossed messages lol

[high remnant]

no I mean if I were to arrive at night she for SURE needs to roast me

[primal laurel]

You better play some Andre Hazes

[high remnant]

https://youtu.be/TQgwBK0Th70?t=99 naaah i'll do this

                      rx      /      tx      /     total    /   estimated
 ens18:
       2025-09    907.70 GiB  /  692.83 GiB  /    1.56 TiB  /   11.04 TiB
     yesterday    641.40 GiB  /  671.61 GiB  /    1.28 TiB
         today    266.31 GiB  /   21.23 GiB  /  287.53 GiB  /  335.26 GiB

lol

[warm helm]

I always turn my volume down be entering my neighborhood. Out of the road though, you can enjoy my metal screamy music

[stuck mortar]

It’s not screamy, it’s just expressive 😤

[warm helm]

if you say so https://youtu.be/Ca1ZwkWUo-o?list=RDCa1ZwkWUo-o

[high remnant]

same lol but still I get shouted at

[minor bobcat]

I'm so lucky my neighbors all have M4s and shit. Their cold start is louder than my music will ever be outside my car lol

[forest edge]

this is not music, it's someone who recorded a few schizophrenic people and added reverb

[high remnant]

Hey are you looking for neighbors

I wanna park an RS4 that is too laud for TuV

[minor bobcat]

Sounds really boujee but there's C43, C300, E63, 911, i30N, GTI, RSQ8, RS3, 2 M4 and me lol

Also 2 KTMs and 2 Ducatis

Nobody will mind another RS4

[high remnant]

so a bunch of cool cars and 4 broken bikes

[visual walrus]

Do we have to wait until the beta notes to get a sense of what 2025.10 is focusing on or can anybody refer to a PR or two that will give a hint? I'm getting curious

[high remnant]

that GTi can fuck right off back to wolfsburg tbh

[minor bobcat]

There's more great stuff but nothing loud tbf

[ocean oar]

Lol, can I join with my R32 though? It's got the correct kind of "no replacement for displacement" engine stuffed up it 😄

[minor bobcat]

But these 10 cars/people take up 20 spots because we're all renting a second parking space for a normal car

[high remnant]

yes they're accepted IMHO if somehwat stock

[minor bobcat]

On the other hand there are about 200 spots in the garage

[high remnant]

not the tupperware tuning versions

(yes and I say that owning one of Audis sad excuses for a car lol)

[minor bobcat]

R32 are really nice

[high remnant]

if done properly

[minor bobcat]

Could say that about anything on the upper ends of "performance" cars

[high remnant]

No I mean that most of the 32s I see are completely destroyed by tupperware tuners

or neglected

that just makes me super sad

[minor bobcat]

You can mess up any RSx or BMW Mx just as fast

[high remnant]

true

it does happen as well

same goes for RS3s btw

[minor bobcat]

But even a 500hp modern golf doesn't vibe for me

[high remnant]

I know why.. its a golf

its fast, its reliable, it can charge your vape, its fast but its a golf

[minor bobcat]

Not a big merc fan but the power you can get out of them is insane

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/sml-jeffy-toy-car-playing-with-toy-car-diecast-car-gif-26491271

[high remnant]

sounds actually ok

[minor bobcat]

I really like their sound

[high remnant]

yeah they sound hot

i like it

https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/fair-absolute-happygolucky-bactrian.jpg wow this worked suprisingly good

[static schooner]

There is such a thing as times being too interesting

[primal laurel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJNR2EpS0jw

[static schooner]

mmmm....CT scans of espresso pucks...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX-aoSKLRzg

delightfully geeky

[forest edge]

kind of like watching paint dry I would imagine

[static schooner]

no, no, it's utterly fascinating

he's using the equipment I use

grinder, distributor, shaker

[weak musk]

thanks for this-- saving for Saturday morning. Hoffman is excellent.

[static schooner]

I love watching people be passionate about interesting things 🙂

some of the scan took 12 hours

time well spent, amirite?

[forest edge]

I don't get it. can't you just open it and use your eyes?

[weak musk]

No

[static schooner]

unless you're superman

[weak musk]

It’s like looking at a pile of sand and trying to understand where the ant tunnels are inside of it

[forest edge]

but your not looking for ant tunnels

it's just basically looking at dirt

[static schooner]

ants do not make for good espresso

I don't think you're the target audience for this 🙂

[forest edge]

lol no

[red rock]

Sup

[primal laurel]

if you're interested in the computational part of this I can send some stuff

[red rock]

https://youtu.be/3GkpxTjAAO4

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/wazappp-gif-16533663536355085528

[static schooner]

Somebody knows where the food cones out

She heard another dispenser drop food nearby and then stuck her whole head in there trying to find her food

[atomic delta]

Dude, the SLZB-07 makes a fantastic Zigbee router. Got halfway across the house on that alone. Need to replace my other Tuya routers too. They're so bad.

[forest edge]

rather expensive router

[atomic delta]

$30 isn't that bad to route in areas where you don't have any mains-connected devices.

Winced at that cost originally, but when doing so gave me Tuya quality...

[wispy ginkgo]

sorry to clog up this channel, where might i ask about a the assist_satellite.announce service not finding my voice assisstant?

[young sigil]

#find-a-channel for help in future. But it's #1284966915055288530

[wispy ginkgo]

thankyou!

[forest edge]

kind of shocked that noone has turned something like those old wind up music boxes into a small generator like for 3 volts or something

[young sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/what-why-huh-steve-harvey-confused-gif-10690115992714552140

[scenic radish]

Power an ESP

[ocean oar]

So once a week instead of winding the clocks you can wind the temperature sensors

I wonder if you could combine some sort of "ticking" clockwork mechanism with a piezoelectric element and generate enough power to take and transmit a temperature measurement. Serving as both the timer and the power source.

[forest edge]

there are a lot of things that require only like 1 or 2 AAA/AA batteries that you don't leave on regardless. nick nack type stuff

[forest edge]

just what every couple needs. https://youtu.be/vHj5U33gRFk?si=QIKkvHQXIkFbucDT

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/ZbdelEq5dT0?si=1hOhizQZFpGE9Jzt

[forest edge]

lol

[high remnant]

beanie babies

[high remnant]

https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/bad-warped-acidic-aldabratortoise.jpeg i feel like stabbing myself

[warm helm]

The dog decides when food comes not me

[arctic quarry]

literally every day for 20 years

[tulip zinc]

Is there some kind of version control for the automations though?

[static schooner]

Backups. And #1284980040940912641

[tulip zinc]

Yeah something like that

[hidden leaf]

In the past I have found ChatGPT to be effective at helping me with Home Assistant. Lately ChatGPT has been particularly bad, especially with confident hallucinations. Anyone having success asking relatively simple questions of something other than ChatGPT, or should I stick with that?

[quaint vortex]

I think you'll get this with any AI model really, but giving it a strict protocol/criteria to follow upfront helps, but maybe even temporarily swapping to different models if you notice it is hallucinating. I was getting a lot of hallucinations today but swapped to another LLM and got what I needed fairly quickly. DuckDuckGo runs/proxies a few LLM's so you can swap between a few on their site until you get the desired results.

[hidden leaf]

thanks, i'll take a look, and good thinking.

[primal laurel]

@last cedar did you see that? crazy stuff

[minor bobcat]

Tbf Lando showed how strong a MCL can be

[last cedar]

I could barely keep up tbh

[amber bramble]

one of my old hue bulbs is finally starting to go out.. debating if i should just replace it with another hue bulb or go with a different brand

[forest edge]

those fairings and those rims make me think of the R1

[high remnant]

thank fuck its not. It is the S1000

my friend has an R1M and i hate it

[forest edge]

no idea what the newer ones are like but take great offense to that being directed to the older ones lol

uh after looking up that S1000 they must have copied the early 2000's R1 cause alot of those fender pieces are the same lol

[high remnant]

my beef with the R1 is that it never starts and always breaks down

:s

but I drive honda so I cannot talk sshit lol

[forest edge]

oh well I reiterate what I already said plus that could just be a lemon issue

[high remnant]

dunno

tbh Yamaha is infamously horrible with starting

XD

but that R1 just takes the cake

cannot tell if others are like this

[forest edge]

no idea. owned a 83 xs1100, 2001 R1 and a 2006 R1 and never had any issues

but then I didn't tear my shit up like some others I rode with lol

[high remnant]

I absolutely hammer my bike but I also hammer my maintenance

[forest edge]

well technically one doesn't completely counteract the other lol

[high remnant]

know still wear and tear

but I don't care its a bike, ride it

[vast grove]

@median wagon thanks for the shoutout 🙏 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvNfXmEyGg4&t=500s

gives some motivation because it needs some tlc.

[solar zealot]

is this the hacs addon?

[arctic quarry]

that whole quali was nuts

Monaco on crack energy

[primal laurel]

broke some records for sure

[arctic quarry]

lap 1 will be a riot 🙂

[warm helm]

Nap time?

[forest edge]

coming up. about 3pm

[scenic radish]

wish me luck, i'll be attempting to solder while tipsy

[primal laurel]

dont drink the flux

[scenic radish]

shit

[dawn badge]

remember the first rule: don't touch the hot end...

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-story-shoot-gif-4847289

[forest edge]

https://img-cdn.inc.com/image/upload/f_webp,q_auto,c_fit/images/panoramic/getty_92398325_339726.jpg

[high remnant]

If I can drive sober you can drive drunk

[forest edge]

hopefully @lone dagger won't allow the Homeless Tediore Fund to be posted in here

[static schooner]

they learned how to build fireproof buildings in Chicago after that cow incident

[high remnant]

bout to trigger some people https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/bitesized-unconscious-ultimate-aztecant.jpg

[warm helm]

Just get high too to offset it

[warm helm]

?????

[high remnant]

ITS ANIME

Jellyfin said so

https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/idealistic-rare-fantastic-americanlobster.jpg this is also a choice lol

[red rock]

Lmao I was like. Let me watch this for an hour during working on my apartment

2 frigging hours

[scenic radish]

alright no burns with the hot air tool, so that's a good start

[forest edge]

https://www.belgraviacentre.com/download_file/view_inline/23813

[primal laurel]

it was a good 2 hours though. Damn entertaining haha

[red rock]

For sure

I was watching it while sanding my wall

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/wax-on-wax-off-mr-miyagi-daniel-larusso-daniel-san-gif-24814730

[lone dagger]

That's what #1284960456880029707 is for.

[forest edge]

"Sonoma needs one million for stuff Fund"

[static schooner]

if it involves you sitting in a chair stroking a raccoon, then it goes here. otherwise #1284960456880029707

[tidal bronze]

Right! That's just 9x BTC

[forest edge]

you got 9 bitcoins?

[static schooner]

spent them on a pizza back in the day

[forest edge]

Kale Pizza no doubt

[sinful night]

Hey

[river lily]

I wonder if I can run home assistant on a nixos base

nope not worth it

looks fun

but not for my homelab (yet)

[robust flicker]

"Mom, I'm going over Mr Miyagi's house to practice my wax off." "DO WHAT?!"

[acoustic saffron]

i thought that we should see what the server tag badge pack is

[river lily]

fish

[forest edge]

lol wtf https://youtu.be/DC-uDDMNTCk?si=bSKrXWk0Z6iVMZxE

[forest edge]

downside of having a server in the same room you sit in is the cold air from the ac blowing directly on you and having to switch between shutting it and opening it

[arctic quarry]

Lol, same 🙂 I had to take not one but two calls from mum so there was frequent pausing like "wait wtf just happened"

[young sigil]

AI slop.

[forest edge]

yea but still funny

[arctic quarry]

eeh not really

it's too offputting

[forest edge]

its cats telling jokes in a podcast..

about hoomans

[young sigil]

I did not even smirk once.

[ocean oar]

Yeah, not my particular kind of slop to feast on. But I work in a graphics-related industry so bad AI graphics really stick out to me

[forest edge]

the tuxedo twins was really not bad

some ai slop is not so bad in terms of giving people a way to graphically represent something. Like https://youtu.be/1eqYswiW4eo?si=pCojgCCHqn1XavWn

[ocean oar]

If you don't look too hard. It's one of those things that really bugs me, and I know I'm not the only person.
Like the colour fringing on projectors, once it has been seen it cannot be unseen.
In that case, it was the top and bottom incisor teeth merging with each other, and the bottom jaw moving at an angle relative to the top.
TBH though almost the worst part is how out of sync the audio and the video are, the laughing animation preceding the sound by almost a second in places is almost as "literally unwatchable" as the AI images themselves.

[forest edge]

well it's not going to be perfect not for as cheap as it is to make lol but the only time I judge the appearance of AI is when someone tries to use to it make like a movie or something or to intentionally try and fool people in a negative way. but for pure creativity I don't mind it one bit. you can write short stories all day long on paper but actually putting graphics that are better than 2d or some horrible attempt at some photoshop slide show to those short stories make them all the better

I just wish some of this crap wasn't made with the sole purpose of trying to make monetized money.

[last cedar]

You clearly can't read the audience.

If it was ai slop about raccoons telling jokes about humans it would hit the spot

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-rave-dance-gif-15389662957248741331

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-astronaut-monkey-earth-toss-gif-12865170

[iron granite]

To boldly go where no Raccoon has gone before. 🖖

[high remnant]

https://iwillnotbuynitro.com/u/oblong-pale-reckless-argentinehornedfrog.jpg gogogo lilttle VM

[last cedar]

They would get the space trash cleaned up in no time

[red rock]

We know what it is but it doesn't look as home assistant as this

[hearty palm]

ok so the manual steps to connecting ha to google home arent working so i did a stupid workaround with webhooks

dumb yes but does it work also yes

[crisp oriole]

Yes my chimera stack can now upload enties to the group hass from personal hass. With triggers when shown. So show the gps location of me when i do a partrol of my neighbour

[robust flicker]

Do you mean to have "hey google" control home assistant stuff, or to have HA control google home stuff?

[hearty palm]

i want to say smth to assistant and it activates something in ha if you want to continue this i have already made a post #1417451232104288347

[robust flicker]

Ah. I was hoping for the inverse. I have a device with no integration in HA that works with GH just fine. :/

[supple grove]

That'd be Google Assistant SDK

[wary nimbus]

I have a project for the day 😄

[dapper peak]

Anyone got an automation set up to unlock a door as you approach it?

Say within 10-15 ft

Needs to be for specific people not just anyone

[iron granite]

#1284980040940912641 might know something. Which would be the right channel for your question.

[thorny gust]

hey guys, im trying to figure out how to add a countdown timer to my manual alarm card

cant seem to find the option anywhere

i basically want to show how long before the alarm is triggered or armed

[weak musk]

#1284965988642590891

[atomic delta]

Any of you with the SLZB-06, does it support ipv6? Contemplating bad ideas.

[iron granite]

#1284966617670881350

[atomic delta]

Fair enough.

Something tells me opening a zigbee network to WAN is a really stupid idea anyway, so it may be moot. But I do need to figure something out.

[stuck mortar]

I’m sure it’s fine, just post the IP address here so everyone can help out

[forest edge]

@scenic radish the comments lol https://youtu.be/HJFYNT7oLEA?si=k_IEKqvS386a8XiA

[scenic radish]

I would only consider swimming in the river if I was confident I didn't have even the tiniest cut 🤣

[forest edge]

what about your nose and mouth and "other" holes? lol

[ocean oar]

Rectum? Damn near killed 'em!

[wary nimbus]

gotta say, setting up the ZWA-2 was pretty much painless.

[high remnant]

reeeeee my proxmox keeps hardware hanging 🥹🥹🥹🥹 probably another failing disk

https://tenor.com/view/scream-loud-scream-girl-kid-hispanic-girl-gif-3761151244536557927

[solar zealot]

[unborn merlin]

neat. probablywont see a 120v one.. bah

[glacial knot]

I'm surprised so many devices aren't 110-240

[solar zealot]

The fix is to not have 120v at home ;)

[robust flicker]

Oh, the trials of the early adopters....

[young sigil]

They won't have a Type I socket version either.

[glacial knot]

Yea. Why would they when they can do type F
Type G would also be ok

60€ for 4 sockets is also steep

[robust flicker]

A gyro is just a Greek taco. And a hotdog is just an american taco. and a kolache is a polish burrito.

It's all just mexican food all the way down...

[primal laurel]

I think the greeks will be very upset if you call gyros a greek taco

[arctic quarry]

surely a taco is a mexican gyro then

[primal laurel]

I only know gyros

gyro is that thing they put in airplanes

[arctic quarry]

sure you're not thinking of those nasty japanese cartoons? I always mix them up

[warm helm]

the aligators are fine though

[weak musk]

And a human is a meat ravioli

[silent dove]

@sudden heath I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[crisp oriole]

Anything 110-230 stealing amps or is very expensive

[glacial knot]

Stealing amps? Do you mean it's inefficient?

[crisp oriole]

Not if its very expensive

Unless the rules of energy has changed the last 20 years after i did electronics

[solar zealot]

For most stuff it's just a different timing on a buck converter anyway

[gusty belfry]

Hm. I think my utility meter config is wrong

[warm helm]

Just add solar

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/tape-band-tank-slap-fix-gif-14999830

[forest edge]

you can't really use the word "compact" with a plug the size of a hockey puck with too many sockets so they were restricted

[formal lava]

i'm looking for the best group to talk to about best practice. after years of use i'm finally getting around to some cleaning and going further with yaml. any direction but out would be appreciated

[static schooner]

#1284966540617449515

[green carbon]

man. decluttering cards are a freaking game changer for my dashboard mental model and organization. shoutout to whoever bulit that. Love the reuse of my code in smaller snippets

Wife came back with feedback about our new light dashboard - i had built a light_dashboard_button component and reused it in all of my room decluttering cards where i organized my lights. Basically changed like 2 lines of code to switch the hold action and the tap action and i was done. Every light button now functions how she wanted without me having to go into like 30 different buttons and change it

[grizzled orbit]

i just used ssh to forward HA (running on a PI in a van) to a server in a secret location to nginx proxy then up to the internet

i think that can work forever no flaws

[forest edge]

wut

[grizzled orbit]

well like cell phone and starlink dont give you a public ip

so i had to use a middle man server

[forest edge]

yea it's called a vpn

been using tailscale to forward data from a remote HA for a few years now without issue

[grizzled orbit]

ssh is super powerful

i even forwarded ssh so i can ssh through the ssh the other way

the link is a systemctl service

[river lily]

you running a proxy or vpn?

stuff like that is kinda dangerous to expose without a vpn

[grizzled orbit]

Exposing what HA or ssh?

[stuck mortar]

That’s just a reverse ssh tunnel

Or regular tunnel depending on the originator

[river lily]

everything

the only thing you should expose is the vpn

[glacial knot]

Ehhh

With cert auth, the only real danger is fresh CVEs

[grizzled orbit]

that looks terrible, i dont want that

[hearty palm]

i can confirm that

it is not a taco

[primal laurel]

https://www.humblebundle.com/games/remedy-games-30th-anniversary-bundle

[scenic radish]

Ikea Parasoll contact sensors FTW. This is on the inside of the sliding door to my office closet. The magnet is thin enough to fit in the gap between the doors, and it turns the light on/off with both doors only requiring one sensor

and with zigbee binding, it controls the closet light directly

[glacial knot]

Yea, it's kebap

[hearty palm]

no comment

[glacial knot]

Granted, döner is just Turkish taco

[hearty palm]

i have no clue what that is

[hearty palm]

that looks delicious

[static schooner]

that...is a gyro

[hearty palm]

i wouldnt say that

the bread looks a bit different

compared to what it usually is like here

but yea they looks close alike

[static schooner]

it's a pita

[hearty palm]

i guess yea it looks like a pita but that is not how a pita is usually like here so i might have gotten it confused

[static schooner]

from one of the many Google images:

Gyros are more often served like a burrito 🙂

[hearty palm]

yea that looks closer to what a pita looks like here it may be the picture or the angle of the picture

[hearty palm]

yep

more like an open burrito i guess ?

if you compare it to a burrito?

[static schooner]

is a burrito a sandwich?

[hearty palm]

i have no clue that is honestly a good question

[primal laurel]

Döner Kebab is the OG. Gyros was derived from it. And everything else that looks like it or has a similar name

[solar zealot]

They do taste a bit accelerated

[glacial knot]

You aren't supposed to shove them in your face at speed though

[hearty palm]

gyros? probably not most people i have met here dont speed eat it they eat it slowly most times

but i guess it is personal taste if you want to eat it fast or not

[glacial knot]

I was thinking

[arctic quarry]

burp sport

[stuck mortar]

No, it’s a calzone. Not to be confused with an enchilada, which is sushi

[primal laurel]

And pizza is just a type of flatbread

[stuck mortar]

Which is toast

[scenic radish]

and all of that is food

[primal laurel]

In protest i will buy a Döner Kebab

[static schooner]

A kebab is definitely not a sandwich

[scenic radish]

https://tenor.com/view/nintendo-64-n64-n64-logo-nintendo-64-logo-nintendo-gif-7228742216242196618

[atomic delta]

Hmm... I wonder if having migrated my zigbee radio is interfering with automatic firmware updates. Maybe I should rebuild the network.

I have a third SLZB-07 arriving today, so it's a good time to do so.

[static schooner]

Can't have too many, I guess 🤷

Usually you need exactly 1

[atomic delta]

I'm flashing the extras as routers.

They're really good low profile routers. I have four thirdreality night light routers arriving today too, but not everywhere I want a router can handle one of those.

[primal laurel]

Can't you just use power plugs and lightbulbs as routers

[atomic delta]

Sure, but I have some large spans where there's no reasonable use for those.

[primal laurel]

You're gonna need power anyway. I don't like sticking usb everywhere, it's messy

[forest edge]

zigbee gets quirky the more routes an end device has to take I have noticed

it's fine for a few hops but beyond that

[minor bobcat]

Our holiday home can't get less smart

Kind of enjoying it. But I also ran into the dark kitchen already and wondered why the lights don't work lol

[forest edge]

never seen bare galvanized window frames before

[minor bobcat]

That's a door lol

[forest edge]

wait. what

[arctic quarry]

what is this newfangled concept

[desert cave]

Lmao.. today in LLM stupidness.. co-worker decided to use GPT to try and "fix" one of our scripts.. except the fix he was trying to add had already been done.. The resulting change just flipped a if true to if not false. He basically wasted 2-3 hours on nothing

[minor bobcat]

Wooden door behind that

[scenic radish]

flexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[static schooner]

47-0=47

Gotta solve the math problem to enter

[scenic radish]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTBtJ3sOFUA

[forest edge]

this is a door?

couldn't find a fast easy online editor that allowed me to draw

wtf is this not 2025

[scenic radish]

ur 2025

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-no-u-gif-14873396

[minor bobcat]

This is from inside

[ocean oar]

This guy right here though

[static schooner]

🎵 They picked out a home and called it "Holiday House" 🎵

[minor bobcat]

He's so done, two days 9 hours driving each

[primal laurel]

you called

[primal laurel]

what sunny country is this

[minor bobcat]

Spain

[primal laurel]

I knew it

[primal laurel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD9v1WyAgLA
BYD just broke the production car world speed limit with an EV at 496 km/h

[scenic radish]

https://youtube.com/shorts/hkOjjQeOUj4

[primal laurel]

barely makes any noise. Didn't even max out. Crazy tech

[minor bobcat]

Goofball

[weak musk]

what is that in football fields per second?

[primal laurel]

3 monstertrucks * amish horse wagon nominal speed / number of calories in a big mac

[ocean oar]

Distressingly, a number greater than 1

[weak musk]

holy shit

say no more

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/amish-donut-amish-donut-horse-gif-17454842003135190834

[forest edge]

its a door that leads to a window?

[minor bobcat]

Glass door, I haven't understood the concept yet either

Every older house has it like that

[scenic radish]

looks like what we refer to in the US as a storm door

[static schooner]

or maybe it was built to be open and the glass was added later

[young sigil]

Open your mind

[scenic radish]

well maybe it's more regional than I thought since Sonoma apparently hasn't heard of one

[static schooner]

Sonoma apparently hasn't heard of one

That applies to so, so many things 🙂

[minor bobcat]

The glass isn't very strong so definitely not a storm door

There's no AC so it's not used to insulate and again it's thin and doesn't seal

The wooden door is everything you'd wish from a door tbf

I'll ask the owner if I meet him tomorrow

[scenic radish]

Okay these are easily the smallest buttons I've ever seen

that is absolutely nuts

[static schooner]

Meant for a pin to press through an enclosure maybe?

[scenic radish]

I knew they were gonna be small based on the photos, but it's crazy to see in person

[scenic radish]

possibly. one is for putting it in download mode for flashing firmware, but the other is tied to RST on the ESP (both of which are common for dev boards of course)

[primal laurel]

I've seen these in older houses where they were at the back of the house. You just put your shoes n stuff there

[scenic radish]

these boards are just crazy small in general. I can't believe how much they've packed in this thing

[young sigil]

I wonder if they make 0402 sized buttons?

[weak musk]

holy hell

So, I got a new helmet, it's so much better than my old one. More venting, way quieter, way lighter. So this ended up being a good annoyance.

[tidal bronze]

6 7

[forest edge]

I see the handle. that did not look like a door to me at all

[grizzled orbit]

Can I convert to bananas per second in HA¿

I mean I think watts can be expressed in horsepower

Or foot pounds

[ocean oar]

There are some mildly cursed units in there
https://github.com/home-assistant/core/blob/d7ac4bd65379e11461c7ce0893d3533d8d8b8cbf/homeassistant/const.py#L379

This one's definitely a "greatest hits" of the two styles of measuring:

CONCENTRATION_PARTS_PER_CUBIC_METER = "p/m³"

Also apparently inches per day, which would seem like an acceptable measurement of rainfall but is in the "speed" section (which is accurate, but cursed)

[primal laurel]

There's some stuff in there about nuclear radiation as well I.think

[normal moon]

I remember an explanation of miles-per-gallon as the cross-sectional area of a long container of gasoline that would be completely consumed while traveling over its length

[ocean oar]

That would be this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkfIXUjkYqE

And the follow-up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg7xe8MkJHs

[normal moon]

Ah, I have the What If books so I bet that's where I saw it

[peak slate]

I've had a few charts of like m/s/m

[primal laurel]

m^2/s

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-billy-the-righteous-gemstones-nerd-go-outside-nerd-get-out-gif-5104134991249090968

[primal laurel]

Sonoma every time he sees facts or logic

It's okay Sonoma. We can explain it to you slowly.

[forest edge]

you yourself have to learn facts and accept logic before you can explain anything to anyone else heh

if that day ever comes i will humor your teachings

[primal laurel]

You got like 20 people in this channel telling you the same thing

I'm not gonna make a difference

[forest edge]

20 people telling me what? lol

you feeling ok?

[primal laurel]

Tryna explain shit to you you don't understand but you never listen

[forest edge]

you must be really pushing that grudge down deep to just explode every so often about something no one but yourself knows wtf you are talking about lol

https://tenor.com/view/that-boy-needs-therapy-therapy-the-avalanches-frontier-psychiatrist-boy-needs-therapy-gif-8897271452202754084

[primal laurel]

I think you are misinterpreting my message if you think that's exploding 😂

[forest edge]

well leashed explosion lol

[static schooner]

I feel like I've stumbled into a meme war

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-zoomer-zoomer-ok-roze-monsters-inc-gif-23394871

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/war-games-joshua-woppr-strange-game-doctor-only-winning-move-is-not-to-play-gif-16198386

[scenic radish]

Great movie

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/wargames-nuclear-war-gif-gif-25109263

[lavish badger]

There. Finally. Got me a new phone ordered.

I made it 5 years on my current one, I'd say I did OK.

[forest edge]

7 years and still going here

[lavish badger]

I dunno if the battery would last that long.

[lavish badger]

I really don't care about any new features, either. Just need decent battery life and apps that stop locking up on me.

[arctic quarry]

so, a $2000 phone minimum.

[celest summit]

Why is it so hard to find a decent air purifier compatible with HA

[iron granite]

Maybe a conspiracy of Big Air Purifier.

[distant jewel]

Where is beta channel?

[iron granite]

#beta

[primal laurel]

Can replace it

[minor bobcat]

Last time I replaced a battery on a OnePlus Nord I was surprised the new one had 80% left after a day at work. It then shut down in the night making me miss my alarms. It never turned on again...

[iron granite]

You got OnePlus day.

[high remnant]

I just have the iphone my company gave me

https://tenor.com/sJKd17Qh9t.gif

and the 10 year old one I use for motorcycle navigation with a busted screen

[primal laurel]

condolences

[high remnant]

meh its fine. I decide the MDM profile loll

[glacial knot]

/me side graded to Pixel when changing employers

I had an iPhone XR and went to a Pixel 6 (upgraded to Pixel 9 earlier this year)
Differences are really minor, when the device is restricted by some Corp compliance either way

[high remnant]

we only allow macs and iphones for employees. No exceptions lol

its just easier

I have had the internal discussion a few times but we don't want to support a wider range of devices due to the maintenance effort from both a security and an IT-admin perspective

easier to maintain just one baseline

(so no MAM-support or BYOD either )

[primal laurel]

what kind of company is that jesus

graphic design?

[glacial knot]

Pixels are corporate branded for us

[high remnant]

infosec :)

[primal laurel]

lmao. This has to be a company in amsterdam or utrecht

[high remnant]

nope

i wish not to disclose my employer lol

but we’re not located there

[glacial knot]

I understand not wanting android
Choosing MAC OTOH...

[high remnant]

😂

they’re not that bad

[primal laurel]

you'd have to pay me 200% annual bonus to get me on apple

[glacial knot]

Luckily I'm root on my Corp Linux laptop

[primal laurel]

fuck that

[glacial knot]

I'll take it before I put up with windows

[high remnant]

🫨

[high remnant]

it’s not that bad

the specialist have VMs to work from so

or burp

https://tenor.com/view/twitching-smile-annoyed-forced-smile-you-said-what-gif-17260425188220456805

[glacial knot]

That's only 70k or so. Chill

[glacial knot]

You don't boot Kali from USB on cheap as laptops?

[primal laurel]

speak for yourself. I'd have to rewrite almost everything just to get it to run on metal

[high remnant]

nope

we do use that on a VM thougb

[high remnant]

euh it depends. i dont use mac personally tho

[glacial knot]

You have GUIs? What is this? Bring your toddler to work day?

[high remnant]

well it depends on what you do eh

pen testing a web app without a UI is errrgood luck

so

[glacial knot]

Curl is all you need

[high remnant]

no you don’t lol

burp is way way way easier

lol

also good luck exploiting XXS with curl tho

[high remnant]

we have encryption and storage requirements for our customer data so IMHO cheap laptops are not the solution for all specialists. We do have specific projects and units that do have non-mac laptops that are provisioned when needed tho

but the default workhorse is a mac

[cursive phoenix]

https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1420394743010951365

[young sigil]

#1284966540617449515 also in future #find-a-channel

[cursive phoenix]

ooooh #find-a-channel was hidden for me for some reason! Thanks @young sigil

[storm pagoda]

Just wanted to see what the Dev folks are doing to address (if they need to, or ...) the Shai-Hulud worm that affects npm, as most if not all of us have GitHub, APIs and other sensitive info

link here

[silent dove]

The topic of this channel is:

There’s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If you’re "just asking a question", you're asking for support. Head to https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 to help you find where you should post your question. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

[iron granite]

#1284966540617449515 might be able to help.

[storm pagoda]

I guess that came off looking like a question - Sorry Jorg .. I guess I'm more interested in whether it's a thing that "we" should be concerned about as a whole

[lavish badger]

Nah, it was...$675 with trade in.

[scenic radish]

I was gonna say, I paid 550 USD (no trade-in or anything) for my Pixel 8 and it's been great

[static schooner]

that's a lot of money for one pixel, or even 8 of them

[scenic radish]

they're Premium™

[warm helm]

time for sleep

[iron granite]

Count raccoons.

[minor bobcat]

I've never seen instructions on how to eat ham

[static schooner]

What a nanny state

[primal laurel]

Spanish take meat very seriously. My Spanish colleague didn't want to bring dried Dutch sausage back home because it would be offensive to his parents 🤣

[static schooner]

The Spanish are almost religious about their ham

[minor bobcat]

I noticed

Two people told me muy bien when took that out of the fridge ... at the supermarket

[static schooner]

how the pigs are raised, how the meat is aged, etc. All meticulous

I think I remember that the pigs they use live in a forest

[weak musk]

acorns!

[static schooner]

yeah, that too

I think it was a Parts Unknown episode

[graceful chasm]

Howdy all 👋, is there a way to give sections a background color/different padding by using theming by any chance? Wasn’t sure where to ask apart from here

[scenic radish]

#1284965988642590891 would be the place

[graceful chasm]

Ah of course, thanks!

[brisk glen]

Docler Compose with Advanced SSH & Web Terminal

Protection mode of

DOCKER_CONFIG=${DOCKER_CONFIG:-$HOME/.docker} && mkdir -p $DOCKER_CONFIG/cli-plugins /share/docker/ && curl -fsSL https://github.com/docker/compose/releases/latest/download/docker-compose-linux-x86_64 -o /share/docker/docker-compose || true && cp /share/docker/docker-compose $DOCKER_CONFIG/cli-plugins/docker-compose && chmod +x $DOCKER_CONFIG/cli-plugins/docker-compose

Enjoy Dockge for that nice web ui on port 5001
Note: Use "/mnt/data/supervisor/share for /share" you can not use paths like "./data"

[scenic slate]

Anyone try using AbacusAI ChatLLM within Home Assistant?

[brisk glen]

@scenic radish may this help some one in their discord search for docker compose with HASS (old ha os name). IDK where to post anymore as the layout here changes every time I come on.

[scenic radish]

@brisk glen why would you need docker compose with HA OS?

[high remnant]

nobody cares but i failed my goal of pushing 60kg on the bench today

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-7433931244412524776

[static schooner]

So you are smushed?

[high remnant]

got saved my some 13-year old

kekek

“saved” he was my spotter cus i spotted him

so

[lavish badger]

Goddang it AI.

[scenic slate]

lol

[brisk glen]

too lazy to learn to make my ha docker (addon) repro

for now

a year later you might see me with a git with auto addon generation

[solar zealot]

i hate how amazon will let you use the same account in multiple regions yet not show all orders from all regions in your history

[ocean oar]

Also my experience is that a lot of the shit on amazon.com.au says sold/shipped by Amazon US anyway

They're just forcing you to an unnecessarily different version of the website for no good reason

[primal laurel]

this was the DE/NL situation for years and I still cant see my old DE orders because of that

[solar zealot]

i always have to change regions which then also changes my currency and language

great to track orders

:^)

[primal laurel]

or when somebody sends you an amazon link

do you want to switch to amazon US

NO

[solar zealot]

oh yes thats the WORST

[primal laurel]

so annoying

[static schooner]

Damn furriners

[primal laurel]

don't worry I stopped using it

I'm 100% Coolblue now

[high remnant]

scamazon

[scenic radish]

haven't used amazon in years

[stoic trellis]

Coolblue has the best service and customer friendly approach. Last year ordered couple of items including a fridge that came with slight damage on the side but one 2 min phone call got me 15% off the price 👌 The "slightly" dented side is facing the wall anyway so like what the hell. Gimme money and i'm fine

[red rock]

Oh I saw Pieter 3 weeks back

In Berlin

[red rock]

Dutchsniped

[stoic trellis]

[primal laurel]

I heard some very spicy things about Pieter from management when i worked there. What a company

[jaunty breach]

I'm a little sad you have to get homeassistant involved for doing 3-way on shelly wall dimmers

[static schooner]

So it's a 4-way 😎

[stuck mortar]

I remember lots of venomous snakes and spiders growing up in Georgia, so it becoming Australia tracks

[normal moon]

Lebanon is famous for its trees (there's one on its flag) so yeah not a bad match for Georgia

California to Palestine, that's a radioactive comparison I won't touch with someone else's pole

s/Georgia/Oregon/ IDK what I was thinking probably reading

[wise mesa]

Anyone using a lafaer mmwave human presence sensor?

[static schooner]

that's not what I would if I were rebulding the map of the world, but the geography fits

When I've visited Israel for work, it felt like San Diego

[tidal bronze]

Interesting map.

[static schooner]

unfortunately, we can't just forget about Florida like we can New Zealand

[ocean oar]

Nah, you need to remove us from that map, stat

It's vitally important to our national security that we be absent from as many maps as possible, so to create plausible deniability of our entire existence

That said, didn't work so well for this woman
https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/kiwi-traveller/87233886/kiwi-detained-in-kazakhstan-after-officials-refuse-to-recognise-new-zealand-as-country

"They thought New Zealand was a state of Australia and that I needed an Australian passport."
Further complicating matters, the room she was interrogated in had a large map of the world tacked on the wall - but the map didn't include New Zealand.

[weak musk]

Heck yes! They are remastering deus ex!!!

[stuck mortar]

Both have rain and trees. Close enough

[high remnant]

:O

[stuck anchor]

uhm... uk, greenland and norway are all land locked? no coastline? nope.

[robust flicker]

Not to mention the problems of cramming so many people into less space. Some of us live in much more spread out areas because we aren't social, and having that many of us in the same place will be a problem. For everyone else.

[primal laurel]

guys please this was a braindead meme. Don't try to debate it

[robust flicker]

You can't tell me what to do, you're not my real dad!

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/bring-my-coffee-boy-uncle-vernon-harry-potter-coffee-time-richard-griffiths-gif-4365449110619212731

[robust flicker]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZXpocmNyOWszb3ZsNXFlc283anA0OXphOG84ZWYycHBjcmo2dDdxdyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/L3nzug1PBLZo2SAZb4/giphy.gif

[lapis cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/coffee-overflow-pour-coffee-cup-pouring-coffee-gif-26440676

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/message-harry-potter-letter-gif-9512586832784271062

[lapis cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/urkel-reaction-wtf-what-reading-gif-26468384

[nimble wing]

hmm. I wonder now that Reolink have joined the WWHA program does that give us an in to suggest feature requests of what their cameras can do? Example... as a dog owner with no kids, the baby crying detection in the E1 Zoom is no use to me, but if it could detect when the dogs are barking, that'd be handy.

@fast trench what do you think? is there an "in"? 😉 ^^

[iron granite]

Can't you train your dogs to cry instead of barking?

[nimble wing]

oh I've tried. they can't even flush the loo after themselves.

[simple gazelle]

https://bsky.app/profile/jonty.bsky.social/post/3lzo5u7yhvk2b

Jonty Wareing (@jonty.bsky.social)

They arrived.

oh no. OH NO.

Bluesky · Sep 25, 2025, 2:26 PM

[midnight adder]

Anyone familiar with android secure folder and work profiles

I gotta add 2 google accounts for my kids schools so I can keep track of their work, but I don't want MDM on my device or give the school access to anything they don't need, like my HA

Does secure folder separate it all 100%?

[fast trench]

I do have a "in", but only for features where the majority of HomeAssistant users make use of.
Development time from Reolink firmware engineers is of course limited, and my list of features i want to see impleneted/bugs I want to get resolved is very long and ever growing.

[nimble wing]

fair enough 😉 thought there'd be no harm in asking 🙂

[warm helm]

frigate and unifi have specific settings for that. works to well on the unifi side

[stuck mortar]

That connector on the left gives new meaning to “hot mic”

[nimble wing]

Thanks. One more reason to wipe an old laptop and run frigate on it. 😄

[forest edge]

any progress on being able to upload sound bites to ike the doorbell from within HA? Halloween is right around the corner

[solid harness]

Anyone have any recommendations on outlet monitoring? I’m wiring a server room for my house and want to make the outlets do power usage monitoring looking to have 2 20 amp runs

[iron granite]

Freedom for outlets! No monitoring!

[forest edge]

the shelly 1pm's can do 20 amp circuits. just get two for two separate runs

[solid harness]

The info says they are rated for 16 amp? Is it a specific model?

[forest edge]

hmm maybe it was only the older models

weird. there use to be a few smart plugs that were rated for 20amp but even those seem to have poofed.

leviton makes a 20amp inwall outlet but no idea what thier intergration with HA is like

[solid harness]

That’s what I’m finding too. Like a few years ago when I was planning my project I had options lol

[forest edge]

you could always use a clamp monitor for energy reading but you wouldn't have relay control over the outlet

https://youtu.be/uVrgDEpeFxc?si=bLyE7YiDFmQ3LG9b

No Internet!

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-panic-gif-8720514262649309419

[fast trench]

You can record a quick replay and play those quick replays using the select entity. Thats already possible. Directly playing a audio file is not yet possible. I will first work on getting the 2-way audio finished before I attempt that

[forest edge]

I haven't opened the reolink app in awhile so not sure if they had improved that experiencing of uploading those files to the device or not but it use to be kind of a pain having to use sdcards etc

I see it still is. they allow you to "record" a clip but not upload through the app

[fast trench]

You can just record using your phone, they have improved the audio quality of the recording. Of course its not ideal,but it works.

[forest edge]

yea no thanks lol

[fast trench]

Indeed you can not upload unfortunately

[forest edge]

there has to be way

they allow you to do it for thier holiday clips

[urban viper]

We're continuing our efforts to build in the open. 👏🏼 Following last week's opening up of #1346914401508392980, the Matter team shared that they will be hosting a monthly Matter Community Sync. 🎉 This is open to everyone who is interested in the development of Matter within Home Assistant, the matter.js project, and the new matter.js based Server we are building. Check out the announcement message in the project thread for more details on the sync. 😌

This is just the beginning, though. We're also using this as a way to see if this format would work for the other Open Home Foundation projects. We'll keep you updated on how this evolves over time. 😎

[atomic delta]

Welp, 1/3 of my SLZB-07s won't reconnect as a router. I think their timeout is too short on the firmware flasher site. I'll try on my laptop later, see if it works better there.

Unrelated, good to know: When you delete the coordinator and introduce a new one without migrating in ZHA, the old zigbee devices will show back up and automatically resume their previous history/names/automations/etc after re-pairing and rebooting HA.

Well, the automations need the reboot. The rest doesn't.

[surreal beacon]

anyone here using the AdGuard homeassistant addon? I can't seem to get it to not bind to localhost. My impression was that it'd bind DNS to the same ip ad my HASS server

[primal laurel]

yes, go #1284966540617449515

[surreal beacon]

@primal laurel thanks. I rebooted hass and it's working now

[last cedar]

99% of problems are related to restarting, the other 1% are raccoon related

[static schooner]

and raccoons are famous for not liking being restarted

[stuck mortar]

The raccoon’s job was to hit restart, but it got distracted by trash

[forest edge]

less racoon, moar pufferfish

[stuck mortar]

I’ve had fugu before. Little tingly, not worth it

[tidal bronze]

Glad that I went with ecobee, local control rocks.

@forest edge didn't have to do any of that DIY nonsense 😁

[forest edge]

but ecobee's don't look that nice.. wasn't that your whole thing? lol

[tidal bronze]

Better than 3D print fiasco

[forest edge]

I dunno. I think an in wall display mount would look better

especially your not even using it as a thermostat lol

[tidal bronze]

Used the API, was horrible. Nest API is 10x better. Ecobee homekit FTW. More than that $100 rebate per thermostat, nuff said.

[forest edge]

send me your nest(s)

[tidal bronze]

Oops too late. In the trash.

[forest edge]

you did not

[tidal bronze]

Not kidding. Why would anyone want that headache.

[forest edge]

who the hell throws away a nearly 300 dollar nest 4 in the trash?

[tidal bronze]

Hated it that much. 😆

[forest edge]

where do you live? I want to come check your trash every so often

actually, should be easy enough for me to pay someone who lives there to do it and just ship me the good stuff they recover lol

[primal laurel]

Raccoon

[atomic delta]

Think something was wrong with this stick. Couldn't get the router to connect, couldn't connect manually over serial, couldn't flash firmware from my laptop, ended up using my steam deck to flash the OpenThread firmware onto it and now I have an OpenThread Border Router. I have no idea what that does for me device-wise, but hey, it's better than a brick.

[forest edge]

sounds like you screwed up

[atomic delta]

I mean, I had three sticks total, two worked fine. That one did not.

But it works as an OpenThread border router, so huzzah, that's covered.

[forest edge]

thats a lot

[atomic delta]

I -think- that one may have been the one I migrated my HUSBZB-1 radio to, so it may be something related to that migration that caused problems.

[forest edge]

you trying to extended zigbee 2 houses away?

[atomic delta]

5000 sq ft house going from one end to the other.

So... yes I guess?

[forest edge]

single floor?

[atomic delta]

Yep

[forest edge]

70(ish) feet across is not that far

[atomic delta]

Think you did your math wrong

[forest edge]

5000 sqf is not 5k feet end to end

[atomic delta]

Well no, I suppose that'd be accurate if it was a perfect square.

[forest edge]

right and anything less than perfect square would be shorter lol

well unless your house is super narrow

[atomic delta]

IIRC garage isn't included in the square footage, and I'm also reaching to the end of that. And it's more of a rectangle, with me in the front corner.

Pretty sure it's over 100' wide though. Not sure on exact dimensions, though I could pull out the blueprints if I cared enough (I don't).

[forest edge]

if your cordinator is one of these smlites with an external decent antenna it's reach even through walls should be pretty decent. mine reach 100+ feet through 2 interior walls and solid outter concrete wall

for example

[atomic delta]

Yeah, it's one of the SLZB-07s. Bear in mind though that AC power runs are more disrupting to signal than walls.

Just tends to get rolled together because those are usually in the walls.

I did just yank out all but one of my tuya routers though, they were all garbage. All but that one anyway. I have no idea why that one was different, but it was a different model entirely. Had a button, registers a motion sensor that doesn't exist in HA.

[forest edge]

my point is you shouldn't need anymore than 1 router to extend your reach

if we were talking about the smart plugs as routers then yea, i could see needing more but you are not.. you are using monsters lol

[solid harness]

anyone have any recommendations for a smart duct vent ?

I want something home assistant can toggle in the basement, that will open if it gets to hot in there.

[forest edge]

you will really only find one so not much point in "suggesting" lol

but #1284966353798697001 is where you want to post to ask

[solid harness]

@subtle pulsar does the hacs for flair that you made need phone home support to function with a flair server?

After setup.

[atomic delta]

Bear in mind that the end node needs to be able to communicate back as well. Coordinators flashed as routers are good for long-range extensions from the coordinator itself, but the devices able to be reached by it are in a shorter range because they may have shitty broadcast strength. And the place where I'm struggling to reach the most is loaded up with eWeLink bulbs (which I do NOT recommend). May just buy more ThirdReality replacements and swap them all out, they're terrible.

[forest edge]

if your issue is wifi interference then switch the bulbs to zigbee lol

[atomic delta]

The bulbs are zigbee

[forest edge]

then why did you mention them?

[atomic delta]

Because I'm talking about getting a zigbee signal across the house?

[forest edge]

are they themselves not act as routers?

[atomic delta]

Haaaaaaaaaaa

eWeLink bulbs are basically rebranded Tuya. But like... wifi Tuya quality.

[forest edge]

I have some tuya zigbee.. i have no issues

it's the only tuya that can be ok lol

[atomic delta]

Tuya zigbee is good, BUT:

• You may have to pair them half a dozen times before they start working reliably
• Everything requires quirks baked in, so anything new has a waiting period
• (Standalone) routers are useless

[forest edge]

I didn't have any of those issues

so not sure what you bought lol

are those the devices you are trying to "reach" with these routers?

[atomic delta]

The second you did, you just didn't notice it. It's baked into ZHA/Z2M. Tuya breaks spec impressively.

Third you probably didn't buy, because they're generally a dumb idea anyway.

[tidal bronze]

Sounds fun

[atomic delta]

The first is mostly an issue with the temp+humidity sensors in my experience. They just stop reporting within a few minutes of pairing, so you re-pair, or reconfigure... half a dozen times.

And then they're reliable as shit once they start working at all

[forest edge]

the only issue device I have is a zigbee ikea motion sensor. sometimes it works, sometimes it's delayed, sometimes it don't work. it's located in the middle of a mesh that works perfectrly so I know it's the device and not my mesh

that may be what you are experincing as well

in my case, no amount of routers at any range would solve the problem lol

[atomic delta]

I dunno if the eWeLink bulbs are rebranded Tuya or somehow worse than Tuya, but they're bad. They drop off the network constantly, they "support" features they don't actually support (Color loop for instance just turns a solid lime green), and I believe 3/8 of the ones I bought were DOA.

So yeah, don't buy those. Bad idea.

I'm probably going to rip them all out and throw them all away.

[forest edge]

return 2 of your slzb's and keep just the one extra and get better bulbs lol

[atomic delta]

I only have three total. One coordinator, one openthread border router, and one zigbee router.

I'm decently content with that trio.

[forest edge]

perfect. return the one you have issues with and presto

[atomic delta]

That's the openthread border router, which now refuses to reflash, but it works fine as a border router apparently, so... fuck it?

[forest edge]

seems silly to buy one of those just to run something other than the factory firmware to me

[atomic delta]

Eh, I mostly wanted to replace the one I migrated to, because the migration was keeping HA from recognizing it properly to offer firmware updates.

It wasn't a big issue.

But again, they're $30 each, they're not exactly breaking the bank. It's not like the $65 or so PoE-enabled ones.

Besides, people keep pestering me to consider thread, maybe now I have a reason to.

[forest edge]

gluten for punishment huh

[atomic delta]

Though now I guess I have to figure out wtf matter is and if I have to care.

[forest edge]

meh matter isn't anything to be excited about

[atomic delta]

Still, I need to know if a "matter over thread" device is going to be supported by what I have.

Which... looks like yes?

[forest edge]

according to @fathom sparrow matter over thread is the bee's knee's

[atomic delta]

From what I can tell, if I just use thread devices I'm golden, if I use matter devices I'm golden once I install the matter addon. Now I just have to find something worth caring about that isn't available as zigbee/zwave. Or wifi, I suppose.

Looked into the rfid cat doors today. Just about laughed myself out of the room at what I found. That sector needs a real competitor, because my choices are "wifi enabled and overpriced with an oversized proprietary collar that uses overpriced proprietary batteries" or "RFID and cheap with no device connectivity and glaring flaws".

Though the biggest flaw I found is one that I don't think any of them can fix. They all unlock the door for like... 15 seconds. I want that shit to lock the instant it swings shut behind the cat, because my usecase involves another asshole cat chasing him through it.

[forest edge]

so build your own

[atomic delta]

Yeah... the thought crossed my mind. Especially since it's a sector where I could probably sell them if I wanted to.

Honestly, if I could set it up so anyone could go out but only he could come in, and have it log when the door swung and which way it swung, that would be perfect.

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze if they add these to planes you going to always buy that ticket? https://youtube.com/shorts/ZH29Oc8BquY?si=WLxlDAodvG9TYQ4k

[atomic delta]

Found another smart one. It has all the hardware for it, but doesn't allow setting lock state separately per-pet. So still useless. -.-

[forest edge]

you are not going to find one that suits your exact situation of cutting off a neighbors cat in hot pursuit

realistically that wouldn't even be safe

and could lead to the neighbors cat getting hurt

[atomic delta]

Sadly, our own cat. We took in two cats from someone who couldn't care for them and one of them is... well, an asshole.

[forest edge]

people like me would just tell you to stop letting your cat go outside.. problem solved

[atomic delta]

Yeah, this is for use inside the house to restrict the asshole from a couple rooms.

So the one he keeps fighting with doesn't have to deal with him

[forest edge]

well in those situations it's best just to keep them seperated at all times

trade out access throughout the day

[atomic delta]

I live in the northern Nevada high desert. You can't let cats outside here. I had one I let out because she was smart enough to not get caught by a coyote. So an owl got her.

[tidal bronze]

Nice idea but I am sleeping 40 minutes in. 😆

[forest edge]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/da/87/65/da8765c622f71835e3a9d93d8bdc7f69.gif

[ocean oar]

<@&330946878646517761> please and thankyou

[flat lintel]

?ban @old sundial

[slim rampart]

philip23_4 was banned.

[ocean oar]

See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya

[forest edge]

you don't want to dropship?

[static schooner]

This is an affront to all Philips worldwide

[gusty belfry]

I just see a solar oven.

[sly solar]

Both were convict colonies...

[static schooner]

For venomous convicts

[stuck mortar]

Not to be confused with poisonous convicts. Common misconception

[static schooner]

it's all in the teeth

[stuck mortar]

Exactly

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-puppet-vampire-bite-gif-15285670

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge you gotta grow some of these

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/member-berries-southpark-ghostbusters-gif-7192781

@solid harness https://us.shelly.com/products/ogemray-25a-smart-relay

[subtle pulsar]

You mean does it rely on a cloud API? If so, yes.

[unborn merlin]

🙃

matter is just ipv6-based IoT stuff.

the underlying hardware beneath it can be wifi, or thread.. or probably other stuff too.

[ocean oar]

Wired Ethernet is also valid

[unborn merlin]

its the psyop to make people actually use ipv6

[ocean oar]

Example: https://www.smartwingshome.com/pages/the-worlds-first-poe-matter-over-ethernet-motor

PoE blind motor with matter. Because network cabling to your windows is... normal

[iron granite]

Finally IPv6 does Matter.

[unborn merlin]

i mean they also make regular what looks like hardwired DC powered blinds too..

with a lovely https://www.smartwingshome.com/products/18-outputs-dc-power-distribution-panel

300$ 12VDC power supply.

[nocturne orchid]

if i change the option to show a device as a light instead of a switch where will that be saved? i cant find that in the helpers

[iron granite]

Uh.... that almost sounds like a support question.

[silent dove]

The topic of this channel is:

There’s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If you’re "just asking a question", you're asking for support. Head to https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 to help you find where you should post your question. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

[scenic radish]

ok this is hilarious: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2053509308723506

no parking sign, definitely not stolen

[solar zealot]

Wonder if the Shelly pro 3em can work on one and two phases

[iron granite]

#1284966353798697001 might know. 😝

Or #the-workshop

[peak slate]

The low reflectivity makes it a road hazard, the seller did their civic duty by removing it

[peak slate]

Yes I know civil engineers, yes they pulled this

[static schooner]

Having such a portable sign would be helpful in reserving a parking space

More authoritative than a set of cones

[austere anchor]

When I was a kid, I picked up speed limit street signs out of a dumpster at a public work building and use them as the floor to a go kart.

[scenic radish]

i love it

[hollow panther]

It feels both weird and cool to have to have done this... but my garage computer doesn't have HDMI-CEC support and I use a TV as the monitor. So, instead of simply pressing a power button or buying a USB-CEC dongle... I finally installed the macOS companion app and added the TV to HA so I can power on the TV when the computer wakes. It does make ya wonder why CEC isn't more widely supported on computers.

[iron granite]

Likely cause: money.

[hollow panther]

yeah yeah... I hate that you're right.

[unborn merlin]

licensing fees; most likely.

[lavish badger]

Years ago I did the most ghetto workaround and used the TV's API to control it via a script.

Which you're basically doing just getting HA involved 😛

[glacial knot]

I use a smart socket to control the TV because CEC doesn't work as I want it to...

[ivory fjord]

doesn anyone know if there's a specifc discord for the bermuda ble integration? having some trouble

[static schooner]

Just #1284966582375813201 or filing an issue on GitHub

[solar zealot]

u g h

guess who just disconnected 15 shellys by setting them back to use dhcp

oh a fun note, all gen 1 ones came back up

anything else no bueno

[ivory fjord]

@solar zealot are you using your shellys on mqtt?

[solar zealot]

no

[scenic radish]

well my work machine starts having DNS issues seemingly every 24 hours for no apparent reason, so that's... fun

just started after upgrading to 11

like, it's almost exactly 24 hour intervals

[dusty mica]

cli > ipconfig flushdns

[scenic radish]

[dusty mica]

No way it's DNS 😉

aka did not serve

[dusty mica]

check dhcp dns

[scenic radish]

yeah everything looks fine and no other devices on my network are having issues either

[primal laurel]

The solution is to ditch W11

[tidal bronze]

Are you connected to any split dns zero config vpns?

[scenic radish]

nope, no vpn

[high remnant]

and no dns

i’ll say it anyway; packet loss due to the hallway

https://tenor.com/view/bye-felicia-hiding-humiliated-leave-me-alone-girl-bye-gif-21567771

[dusty mica]

where did he go..?

[lone dagger]

We have some new emojis!

Shoutout to @scenic radish and his ever-flowing fountain of inspiration for shitposting.

[primal laurel]

Beautiful

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/errr-gif-15100917141607828528

[scenic radish]

truly my life's greatest work

[high remnant]

I just want to be in another pinned message, preferably about my alcohol abuse and love for docker

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/up-drawing-2d-draw-come-on-gif-18769530

[high remnant]

christ

[forest edge]

lol got my 3d printer already working on your reward @scenic radish lmao

https://i.etsystatic.com/34272498/r/il/7e760c/5994800618/il_fullxfull.5994800618_hvmg.jpg

having to clean cages constantly after having not one but two cats spayed/neutered is hard work

[static schooner]

They certainly aren't helping

Look like tuxedos

I have two of those

[forest edge]

momma and her little boy

shes around 1 year and he's around 4.5 months

feral

[static schooner]

Both young

Good on you for getting them fixed

[forest edge]

she stashed him in my shed a month or so back and I was able to snag him. snagged her when she came back for him

[warm helm]

you love docking?

https://tenor.com/view/parking-park-boat-gif-15334950

[high remnant]

omw

https://tenor.com/bTS9M.gif

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/docker-pull-ubuntu-gif-26210830

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O6tQYJSEMw

year of the linux desktop

[ocean oar]

I love all the people speculating that with Costco stopping selling XBox hardware that they're going to make the Kirkland Signature SteamOS console

[primal laurel]

lol

there's definitely a SteamOS console in the make

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

im looking at valve. But I cant prove it

[wraith pier]

Guys, we need to talk.

I’ve been a developer for more than 15 years, and I’ve always made it an article of faith to give back to any community I'm part of as much as I can. Since I came here to the discord, I've tried to help support others as soon as I found my footing.

Today, I found what I believe is a bug in the UI for input booleans. I brought it up in one of the dev channels, fully prepared to help diagnose and fix it. I was told it wasn’t the right place—fair enough. However, when I argued my case, SOMEBODY took it on themselves to lock me out of all the dev channels altogether, with not even an explanation.

That’s not how healthy communities work. I don’t mind being told I’m wrong, or redirected to a better venue. But contributors shouldn’t be snubbed in this way for making their case in good faith. That comes across as elitist and bureaucratic, and it makes me question whether this is a community worth investing in.

This is not a one-time occurrence either. I've been bluntly brushed off before, if not in such a blatant manner. The reorganization of the discord server also came with regular blunt slapdowns for those who got the - frankly extremely byzantine - system wrong.

I had two PRs all but ready to submit, but after this experience, I don't think I will send them just yet. Open source is supposed to be about collaboration, not gatekeeping, and I’m not interested in donating my time and energy to a community that responds to good-faith discussion by slamming the door.

I’m posting this as a reminder: projects rise or fall on their communities. Without its community and its contributors, an open source project is nothing but a useless lump of code.

I hope these words don't fall on deaf ears. I'm fully open to re-invest myself in the community if and when I see a noticeable change, or at the very least, a meaningful discussion of viable solutions. But for now, I chose to become a silent observer and see how my points are received.

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/bill-hader-eating-popcorn-keith-morrison-dateline-snl-gif-25666169

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/huge-pop-corn-big-plastic-fullof-popcorn-gif-4669227

[toxic crest]

Does anyone know if Home Assistant Connect ZWA-2 works in norway?

[weak musk]

Ultimately you posted in the wrong place. #developers is for Developers (people who are actively updating code, building integrations, etc)— what you posted looks like a support request or a bug report, neither of which are appropriate for developer channels. If you wanted support from the community to see if anyone had a work around for the helper issue you posted it should have been posted in #1284966582375813201 if you wanted to report a bug, choose the appropriate bug submission link here: https://www.home-assistant.io/help

[wraith pier]

So you feel the reaction I got was justified then?

[weak musk]

stating an abbreviated version of my comment? Yes.

But, if you’d like to chat about it further I’m sure a mod would be happy to oblige 1:1. If you don’t mind I’d love to get back to raccoon pictures though.

https://tenor.com/view/evil-smile-evil-evil-laugh-gif-10865501938883882879

[thorny scarab]

I didn't lock you out of anything, nor would I even have the power to do that if I wanted to. 🤷

[wraith pier]

Thank you. That tells me everything I need to know about the kind of ship you are running here.

[weak musk]

I’m not a captain and I have zero to do with OHF or Nabu Casa

[wraith pier]

Enjoy your raccoon pics mate.

[weak musk]

cheers 👍

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-drinking-beer-raccoon-meme-raccoon-beer-raccoon-drinking-raccoon-gif-11108347521867034834

[wraith pier]

Ok, if I wrongly accused you, I apologize. But somebody did, and apparently the consensus is that that was the correct reaction.

So I rest my case.

[primal laurel]

Why would anybody do that?

[red rock]

Keep in mind that generally people who start talking about issues in the dev chats are not actual devs, and then removing a role would be correct

[wraith pier]

Taking drastic measures based on half-assed assumtions in NEVER correct, mate.

Also "generally" doesn't cut it.

[weak musk]

Can we not?

An answer has been provided.

You know where to post things now

We don’t need to drag this out

[primal laurel]

Can't you just give yourself the role back if you want it?

[wraith pier]

That would DEFINITELY be the wrong course of action.

[primal laurel]

Why

[wraith pier]

If nothing else, it would justify the action after the fact. Kicked people who just come back rightfully get banned.

Also why should I act as if nothing had happened?

@thorny scarab I've corrected my original post btw.

[primal laurel]

You are not banned. I'm just curious if you can get the role back

It's just a button in the discord onboarding thingy

[wraith pier]

Try it on your own account then. I'm quite angry, but I'm not ready to burn all bridges.

[primal laurel]

Try what

[tidal bronze]

Cheers 🍷!

[primal laurel]

You can self assign the role

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge thinking of you....

[wraith pier]

https://tenor.com/view/upset-frustrated-bridge-of-nose-gif-12592737

[lone dagger]

I threw some of that shit in my ramen a couple weeks ago.

[primal laurel]

what?

[wraith pier]

I have just been removed from that role by duly appointed authority. Be it rightfully or not is beside the point. If I tried to reassign the role to me, what do you think how the afforementioned duly appointed authority would react? And let me reiterate: they would be fully justified by my actions.

[primal laurel]

Who cares. Tag a mod and ask for clarification

[lone dagger]

The role was removed because everything you have posted in the developer's support section are not developer support questions. That isn't a space where you go to get help directly from the developers, it's where developers ask questions about the code while they are working on the project or a custom project.

You were posting support questions. Those belong in the community support section. The developers do keep an eye on that space because that's where users report issues that aren't on GitHub.

You are more than welcome to reassign yourself the role as long as you use the space as it is intended. I encourage y'all to take part in convos in #1346914401508392980 this way. Just don't use their support section for reporting issues with the product.

[primal laurel]

The mod who removed the role should have sent that message in the first place 😅

[lone dagger]

Don't disagree with that.

[atomic delta]

Y'know, all these rolling shades and shutters are cool, but what about sticking a film to the window that turns black when powered? Blanking on the proper name for that, but it'd be easy to integrate. Simple on/off switch.

[primal laurel]

You can buy that. It's not cheap

[ocean oar]

Electrochromic

[young sigil]

No insulation and very expensive.

[atomic delta]

Thank you

[primal laurel]

It's cool though. I've seen this on the HA Reddit I think

[atomic delta]

Valid on the insulation, wasn't aware it was expensive. Thought that shit was cheap these days. Good reason.

[wraith pier]

What I wanted to do was diagnose the problem together with the devs and contribute to a solution. I even tried to say as much in the thread, but it got nuked before it got going. Sorry to say so, but I still see a fundamental problem with culture in this project.

[lone dagger]

Diagnosing problems does not happen in that channel, sorry.

[atomic delta]

That's still not what those channels are for.

[young sigil]

It has been a while since I last looked. Could have come down in price since then. '