the-water-cooler

[primal laurel]

gamersnexus just dropped this 3 hour documentary

[stuck anchor]

oh. so all tech channels will now be flooded with commentaries on gamersnexus

[primal laurel]

people like asmongold don't have the attention span to watch a 3 hour documentary nor do they have the brain capacity to understand the content

sorry, hate that dude

[stuck anchor]

you don't expect them to shut up about it, do you? must have a viewpoint. must publish it.

[primal laurel]

MUST RESPOND RE: RE: RE: RE:

[stuck anchor]

i think black & decker is just a rebranded fisher price anyway...

if you want proper tools you are talking dewalt, makita, milwaukee...

[robust flicker]

chuckles in Ryobi OnePlus ecosystem

Also known as Milwaukee's cheaper cousin. Made by the same manufacturer.

The oldest Ryobi OnePlus tool in my possession is a leaf blower. But I also now own a string trimmer/edger, a polesaw, a circular saw, a drill, flashlight, and a 1/2" drive impact wrench. Along with 6 batteries and 4 chargers.

[tired quarry]

I have 15 RyobiOne+ skins, they're an addiction.

[robust flicker]

Heh

[tired quarry]

I still am no wiser on this question though which has now burnt several hours of faffing about to no end 🤣

[tired quarry]

The actual edger, the hard metal gadget, is truly incredible for straight lawn edges. It puts the line trimmer to shame, or at least, it puts my abilities with a line trimmer to shame.

[robust flicker]

I had no problem using my impact to remove the crankshaft pulley on my old Honda Accord while doing a timing belt. And those are notorious for being difficult to remove.

[simple gazelle]

For the UK where the selection is a little different the perceived wisdom is Ryobi is great for the home, though not for professionals. If you go to Screwfix (diy as well as trade) and search for them you get this.

Whoops doxxed myself there

I prefer using Inspect to anonymise over Paint

[weak musk]

The best tools are typically the ones you have.

[still kiln]

How much tinkering is required with HA? is it more of a setup and forget or a constant fight to fix it

[weak musk]

That said I use makita 😂

[weak musk]

Depends on what you do with it.

[still kiln]

I don't think I wanna do anything fancy, I have some lutron shades and lights I wanna hook up. past that, im not really sure what I would want to do

I'm giving light mode on discord a try

[stuck anchor]

keep away from anything that needs ha to integrate with a cloud service. avoid wi-fi based gadgets that use the tuya ecosystem. read the documentation for your updates, especially the bit about breaking changes.

you will need to keep an eye on it, but things very seldom break

[still kiln]

I used to use apple homekit and I really liked the fact that I could play music around the house via the homekit speakers. I know HA has their own voice thingy now, but are there recommended speakers to hook up to it that sound good? What am I losing by using the HA voice over homekit for the voice?

[weak musk]

You can still use HomeKit for the voice

(I do)

[stuck anchor]

i don't really use the voice stuff in ha. i do use google assistant and have some devices exposed there, but i have never become a great fan of voice commands

[still kiln]

How come you haven't swapped over?

Fair lemme rephrase my question then

[still kiln]

Would you still use apple homekit if you were starting fresh?

[weak musk]

I only use HomeKit for voice. Everything is controlled inside of HA

[weak musk]

Because we have iPhones with us all the time and that’s the one time Siri is convenient. And it’s nice not to have to remember another voice assistant’s wake word.

We literally only use a VA to trigger our bedtime automation.

The rest happens seamlessly without user interaction

Oh that’s the other thing. We have in wall speakers for music throughout the house + WiiM amps that we can control with HomeKit. We don’t use smart speakers.

Fully agree

[still kiln]

I might consider wiring speakers one day but honestly the apple homekit speakers are fairly solid given their size

Metal is fun, but yeah def not for just playing around the house

While gaming it's a huge W tho

as for dashboards, is there a recommended device?

I was planning to juse use Ipads all around the house but that feels wasteful

I assume OLED is bad for dashboards?

So you're anti voice and anti dashboard

pro automations?

[clear ferry]

I have used dashboard of HA for probably 2 months total as my kitchen mounted wall screen, other than that I never see the HA dashboard, although recently I've started making the automations in the UI, but that is after 7 years of using HA

I prefer notifications via telegram, only thing I used the dashboard for was calendar and trash pickup really, but trash pickup has moved to notifications

So now I just need to wall mount a tablet for calendars

Swipe gone? I still have years of telegram history from ha

[still kiln]

Telegram like the messaging app?

[clear ferry]

Yes

[dawn badge]

I have some stuff logged to slack

[still kiln]

So you're sending messages via telegram to your phone and using that for notifications?

[clear ferry]

Yes

They can even be interactive if you want

And you can query your HA instance

[random agate]

I'm still stubbornly using Pushover for notifications. I'm actually not sure why I am, other than that I've used it in HA since day 1 because I used it at work for years before for production alerts and I was used to the sounds it made 🙂

I push Mrs Daern's notifications out via the app, so TBH there's not much reason for me to not do the same for myself too. Interactive notifications would be be useful too (I don't believe this is possible on Pushover, but I've not really looked into it much).

[still kiln]

does HA have an intergration with ubiquiti?

[clear ferry]

Me and wife has only been using telegram for years, sms has been dead in Norway for a decade unless you are 60+

[clear ferry]

Unfortunately yes

[still kiln]

why unfourtunately 😭

[clear ferry]

Because ubiquiti is

[peak slate]

Ntfy.sh is my main notification method from the app

[clear ferry]

Best regards bald man working with 800G networking

[peak slate]

Though I use official app notifications if I need buttons

[still kiln]

why haha?

[clear ferry]

Shit products, overpriced, made for the adhd generation

Ohhhh RGB switch ports

Shiny

Also, screw YouTubers like ltt

[still kiln]

I agree with the last two points, but what do you think is wrong with their products?

beyond the rgb switch ports

[clear ferry]

The number of weird software issues I've seen indicate that their internal development is blind fumbling, also the whole debacle with the internal ransomware case they had was ridiculous

[still kiln]

What brands do you think are better?

[clear ferry]

Mostly anything

In that category, Mikrotik is a huge step up

Used enterprise gear is cheap also

[glacial knot]

Netgear

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/jerk-off-the-hangover-ken-gif-22692657

[glacial knot]

RCS will clearly revive the SMS 😂

[still kiln]

I just like ubiquiti for my setup cause they have a large following so if anything goes wrong they have a huge discord server and if not, their support is actually pretty solid. Plus ur right, part of the appeal of ubiquiti is how easy it is to understand, the quality of their products I can't really speak on but I haven't heard too many bad things about them?

[clear ferry]

Yeah I'll switch to the platform that the us is sharing military secrets on instead

[exotic bane]

Hey hey! I know it's a rare appearance from me, but do we have any SEO specialists here?

[still kiln]

I mean, at least they trust it xD

[random agate]

For a home router appliance, I'd also consider a generic N100 / N305 box with OpnSense on it, assuming you are comfortable with the setup. Been impressed with the performance, stability and general usability of it, even compared to something like Mikrotik. Obviously a slightly higher entry point from a complexity point of view, but it's nothing too hard in reality. Good for the wallet too 🙂

[clear ferry]

I've been running *sense for 21 years now

Switched from pf to opn in 2018 because of pfsense questionable state

[random agate]

OpnSense lives nicely with Proxmox too, if virtualisation is your thing. Even a relatively modest box can become quite a capable home router / server without too much complexity involved. Good support community around OpnSense too, which helps.

[clear ferry]

for those that want to read more about that

https://github.com/rapi3/pfsense-is-closed-source
https://www.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/m6zjie/wireguard_netgate_pfsense_drama/
https://www.hexbear.net/post/97212
https://www.reddit.com/r/BSD/comments/7go6i6/pfsense_slanders_opnsense_with_fake_domain_and/

[still kiln]

Yall lost me

[clear ferry]

proxmox certainly will have an uptick in the months forward, but all the enterprise customers are looking for something that can actually provide support to them, but it is fine enough for a homelab unless you want to learn a usable skill, then it is mostly wasted

[random agate]

Fortunately, I'd doubt many HA users are looking for enterprise support contracts here 😉

[clear ferry]

you'd be surprised

the overlap is large

[still kiln]

I just want something that works haha 😭

[clear ferry]

between people working in IT and people automating their home

[glacial knot]

that's kinda what enterprise support delivers^^

makes it work in stupid situations

[random agate]

@still kiln Buy something like this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004360072281.html - download OPNSense and stick it on it, instant high-performance router. Job done!

[clear ferry]

yes, and the question is basically, will companies evolve and do kubernetes, or will they stay same old bullshit and just run everything in VMs

[primal laurel]

does proxmox on a nas make any sense?

[random agate]

not for everyone, but if you can get your head around it, it's a very powerful, cheap option.

[clear ferry]

no

but a lot of people run opnsense on proxmox

which is horrid

[glacial knot]

evolve to k8s

[clear ferry]

jesus, swarm

never seen anyone using that outside of a poor homelab

[still kiln]

Disregarding cost, why is it better than something from ubiquiti? I wish I had time to wrap my head around something super large, but my life is sadly busy

[glacial knot]

I've heard from people that use it at work

[clear ferry]

poor people

[glacial knot]

rather, people working for poor companies

[clear ferry]

more like "poor" as in I feel sorry for them

not financial

[glacial knot]

I've neer used swarm

I haven't even used normal docker much
went mostly from lxc to k8s

[still kiln]

My skill level for IT shit, is pretty low. I understand the basics but never really needed to wrap my head around it

[clear ferry]

love solutions like that

I work on a lot of legacy solutions for customers that is "hey we can only do one server a time, please boot the second server every year or so to test it"

[random agate]

Cheaper (you can't disregard that!), will never be obsoleted (OPNsense will keep going, or some other fork will take over in its place), no significantly limits on functionality - it just works. And, even with relatively modest performing hardware, it's fast. My old N5105 (pretty archaic hardware now) could easily saturate 2.5Gb internet while barely tickling the CPUs. The current N305 hardware is really overpowered, but I run other stuff on it too, so that's ok. Each to their own, TBH, and if you're not confident with your networking / IT skills, perhaps a more standardised product will suit better, but OPNSense is a pretty good option for a software firewall appliance.

[clear ferry]

Tell me you work in nuclear or industrial IT without tell me you work in those

Thankfully last AS400 I saw in production was 2015

[random agate]

@still kiln Maybe watch a generic youtube OPNSense setup video on youtube and see if it appeals to you. If you get 5 minutes in and nothing makes sense, you'll know it's not your cup of tea 🙂

@warm helm IME, most iSeries machines IPL at least once per week anyway (effectively a reboot), so they're usually quite reliable at reboots. The whole enterprise grade stuff is bollocks - a suprising number of big, enterprise platforms could barely get through 24 hours without a scheduled restart of everything!

[still kiln]

Will do!

[glacial knot]

I know I make atx cringe with my omada gear

[clear ferry]

you should see the unix boxes I service with years of uptime, thankfully they are airgapped

[clear ferry]

omada is fine

[glacial knot]

it's certainly not perfect
but it does the things I want reasonably well 🤷

[random agate]

I found a fibrechannel switch with 13 years of uptime not so long ago. But if you ask me, I will deny it...

[glacial knot]

I might need to get a 2nd AP soon, then I get to play around with the wifi management a bit more

[random agate]

I deny everything.

[clear ferry]

I saw a fully operational token ring network in 2012, nothing surprises me anymore

jesus

[glacial knot]

with our silly real time networking / field bus things I wouldn't be surprised to find those

[clear ferry]

RT is fine

Industrial stuff like Profinet is also fine

but jesus christ, token ring

just gtfo

[glacial knot]

we mostly use ethercat for now

[clear ferry]

I work with a lot of RS485 networks too, bridged to ethernet, great stuff ,reliable

[glacial knot]

atx is older than tech. So nothing

[clear ferry]

Considering I work with US customers too, nothing surprises me anymore

what a third world country in regards to saving old tech

Ghana is more modern

[glacial knot]

looks around Germany

[clear ferry]

Germany at least maintain stuff

[glacial knot]

unless it's trains...

[clear ferry]

I was working with a shipping company that did realtime network monitoring on all their vessels to a central hub in europe

that was fun

[glacial knot]

french trains run k8s

[clear ferry]

polling 300 switches on each boat in realtime

[glacial knot]

then we'd also have to sabotage polish trains

[clear ferry]

Morbid joke in Norway, where I'm born we don't have trains, and we used to say "should have let the germans occupy us two more years and we'd have trains everywhere"

The main road network in norway was built by the germans during WW2

and even a lot of underground copper cabling was used for 80 years because they used high quality copper

[glacial knot]

the main road network in Germany was built during WW2

nah, we still use the copper because Telekom sucks

[weak musk]

Dude don’t listen to them atx is the largest network nerd I’ve ever talked to. If you are happy with ubiquiti get it. Its made to be suitable for basic/intermediate users

[glacial knot]

Are you calling him fat?

But yea, ubiquity is fine for most home users. They have some fancy features. And I think at comparable functional features competitors are similarly priced

I don't like them much. But they are certainly one option to get a unified management for router/switches/APs

he didn't even ship a zigbee coordinator to my place 😦

[dawn badge]

ubiquiti has its palce for me. i probably wouldnt buy loads of their stuff but i use it for an AP and in stand alone mode, no controller needed. dont have any issues with it

[glacial knot]

we have tens of tiny networks with a UDM-Pro, a single smart switch and potentially an AP at work

though they are set up slightly weird so it can be quite annoying to manage them

[still kiln]

I love you bro

[still kiln]

@weak musk check ur dms

[weak musk]

No thanks

😵‍💫

[still kiln]

Is the HA yellow, great or just good enough?

oops didn't mean to reply there

is there something I can rack mount just for aesthetics

[primal laurel]

it's not way better if you want to run HA

also kind of a dick move to say that in HA server because it supports HA

bullshit

I have a green, with even less power than a pi5 would have with a yellow and it runs all my addons including vscode which uses the most resources

[weak musk]

What is happening

[primal laurel]

no

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/basil-fawlty-fawlty-towers-bastard-gif-16333239

[primal laurel]

it's wasted hardware

ok fine, if you ever want to run AI camera software on your HA hardware go for an N100. Otherwise, total waste of hardware you dont need

N100 is also a poor choice for that kind of stuff

pi 5 doesn't use 12W, maybe at peak load

green uses about 1W

[dawn badge]

I use a n150 for HA and frigate(proxmox). i used to run a cm4 yellow before that

[primal laurel]

look at the CPU utilization of your N100. It's probably at a few % (when it's not doing frigate)

[deft pewter]

You've forgotten your Mark Twain wisdom, haven't you?

Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

[primal laurel]

what can an N100 do that a pi 5 can't, besides frigate

tbh it could probably also do frigate, never tested it

are you also a sys admin?

meh, yellow has an M2 slot. And onboard zigbee

I was considering it but got the green instead

that it supports HA development is also a pretty damn good argument

unless you dont care about that?

I mean you can do both. I'm on NC since it first started

for my parents install that is, which is on a NAS. Which is ironically less responsive than a fucking green

[glacial knot]

Yea, some CM based things are nice. Normal boards though

NAS systems often run some tiny embedded CPUs
though it can be up to something like the N100

minisforum has been a bit spammy for me recently

but I don't think they come with any nice NAS stuff. Just reasonable small computers with maybe a PCIe slot

not super useful for me
I got reasonable amounts of fast storage. So if I add more it should be 3.5" spinning rust for the capacity

[still kiln]

imma get a 9950x3d and a 5090 for my HA server 🙂

xD

[glacial knot]

I went all SSD for that crisp silence

but wouldn't mind 2 HDDs with high capacity as mirrored backup target or similar

yea, I'll move soon and then have more separation as well. Currently my setup is in my office...

I will continue to use a laptop as primary device

but everything else should move into the basement as well

(not accounting for technically computers used for feeding TVs or playing audio)

nvidia 🤢

it's just what I already got 🤷
Might got for something that's more of a product than hacked together if I have to rethink either way

[clear ferry]

No, it is now, and they have very little disconnects with 30s timeouts

Considering I had full internet connection without a single drop on a flight from Europe to US in 2020 it isn't that unrealistic these days

Oslo to Atlanta was not even close to Greenland from memory

Need to check

Oh right I flew via Schiphol

So not even close no

That is a map from Delta about their direct flights to Atlanta

[iron granite]

The first one looks like adsbexchange.com

[weak musk]

That would be a cool poster

[clear ferry]

Isn't that actually just flying directly, but optical illusion based on earth curvature makes it look like a half circle

https://tenor.com/view/getoffmyplane-gif-27502840

[primal laurel]

did we get

https://tenor.com/view/spam-gif-10811817447080815426

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-downey-jr-tony-stark-gif-26471287

[static schooner]

There's been a bit of a spam outbreak today

Everyone should get their spam vaccine shots just in case

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/spam-gif-18193825667818442555

[static schooner]

It's the only way to achieve herd immunity

Plus, it's nutritious!

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/spam-spam-lite-food-spinning-gif-17955332

-# Less calories.

That sucks.

[normal moon]

Did it physically fail, or did the company shut down some kind of service?

Does it require like golf-course flatness, or can it handle mild terrain?

Yeah, we have the roots and some gopher holes that I have to watch on the rider mower, not sure how a roomba-with-a-blade would handle that

Lame. I guess I’ll have to wait until someone straps a lawn mower to a quad copter or something

[ivory fjord]

can anyone recommend some 3d printed mounts for these?

[iron granite]

Maybe #3d-printing knows

[ivory fjord]

Woop, thank you hehe

[clear ferry]

Cobs are nice

[ivory fjord]

They're great and were a breeze to connect with a controller. First time for me

[weak musk]

I wish I had used cobs for my stairs. Next time.

[ivory fjord]

I had bought these but the dimmability was awful. The "1%" brightness is equivalent to about 15% for the BTF ones.

I found a compatible model and printed it in clear PETG. I posted the link in #3d-printing in case anyone needs it

[thick dragon]

Where would a ZHA issue about a specific device go? #1284966582375813201 or #1284966353798697001 (or even #1284966203026182206 because it's about wattage readings on a smart plug)?

[static schooner]

#1284966617670881350

With the Zigbee tag

[thick dragon]

Thank you!

[carmine cloud]

OK thanks! 🙂

[gusty belfry]

Well this won't go horribly at all...

[static schooner]

I saw that and his answer to a journalist about what he would do next is 'play a lot of video games'

And while they're planning an imminent IPO

[peak slate]

dudes probably got enough money to retire, why not just enjoy life

[static schooner]

Nitro4Lyfe

[thick dragon]

I feel like Matrix might start gaining significantly more popularity now...

[weak musk]

https://tenor.com/view/the-matrix-gif-18260752

[unreal crystal]

I can't believe

There's no cheap matter over Thread temperature sensor

Isn't that like the second piece of hardware you'd expect after the light bulb?

Timmerflotte soon

[desert cave]

Matrix will need to get better at usability first. Not losing messages would be a good start

[rocky turret]

Hey @chilly radish how is this going?

[chilly radish]

not much i can do but wait
https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pulls/sanjay900

[rocky turret]

Ah, thanks!

[hearty palm]

my zbt-1 finally arrived

now i just need to pcie passthrough it to my proxmox ha vm

and it should work

[dawn badge]

you mean usb passthrough? or are you passing the entire usb controller? 😛

[hearty palm]

yea usb passthrough

ok nice i got the zbt-1 to appear on ha

now i am trying to connect the rodret ikea switch

hmm zha cant find the rodret ikea switch i am questioning if its a problem with the switch battery?

[primal laurel]

#1284966617670881350

[exotic bane]

Heyo! Do we have any Eleventy (11ty) nerds here? Wanna pick some brains!

[still kiln]

Does anyone here know anything about lutron pricing?

I'm being quoted $530 for a Ketra G2 Linear, just not sure if that's reasonable.

[clear ferry]

Lutron, reasonable

Doesn't belong in the same sentence

That looks like something that can be easily diyed for less than $50

Before US tariffs that is

[solar zealot]

So it's 2499.99$ after

[glacial knot]

• tax

[spark badger]

guys this should work, right?

[clear ferry]

Both state and federal?!?!

I'm waiting for my $2500 return

Owning two houses for half a year is tax deductible

Also 1400km one way to the office is nice for travel tax deductible

[glacial knot]

GOOG got a blanket extension in Germany last year
They messed something up in 2023 and it took them 10 months or so to hash out how it's supposed to be with the state

[peak slate]

Tax cuts for the rich!

(I know in this case it's the time between buying and selling, but that's who those cuts are really for)

[peak slate]

You know what they say, you need to have money to save money

Or something something about bootstraps

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-darth-vader-as-you-wish-yes-master-return-of-the-jedi-gif-22898951

[glacial knot]

it took me a couple attempts until I understood they aren't intentionally quoting Munchhausen

[solar zealot]

[clear ferry]

Norway has some weird tax rules, I can deduct my kids for example, not as bad as when I lived in Ireland and could deduct having a driveway in the house I lived in

[glacial knot]

gotta subsidize the atx

[clear ferry]

Yes, there was weird rules in Ireland, in the end I ended up paying 8% tax

Compared to 23% in Norway

So I earned more on less pay

[glacial knot]

paying 42% on my bonus is annoying

also, you have 23% effective? o.0 I wish I got away that cheap

[clear ferry]

Yeah, we pay 40 something on bonus and overtime too, but it gets paid back when tax returns

I have 31% effective currently, on €150k

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/work-microsoft-teams-gif-16793718229019696508

[clear ferry]

You watch teams in the middle of the night?

[glacial knot]

You use teams? 😮

[primal laurel]

imagine having colleagues in oceania

[static schooner]

Do they live in a pineapple under the sea?

[clear ferry]

Mr fancy clocks!

https://tenor.com/view/pink-floyd-time-the-wall-song-lyrics-gif-9091011

Reminds me, I need to relearn the solo for that bit

Still need to get all my guitars into the new office

[lime jewel]

oi

[tepid mango]

dumb question, but i have a bunch of raspeberry pi 3B+ and older zeros. I also have sonos one speakers that i do not use. Is there a way to use the raspberry pis as a smart speaker but putting mics on it and have the responses come through the sonos speakers?

[glacial knot]

oh wait, this is supposed to be in the afternoon? o.0

[dawn badge]

maybe, look up "wyoming satellite" but if you have further questions then please move over to #1284966915055288530

[glacial knot]

but why would you care? o.0

[tepid mango]

thank you. I never know where to post it as i feel like sometimes my questions if they are not super in details yet.

[shut magnet]

has there ever been any integrations with regards to nintendo devies , other than the switch parental controls thing created for HA ?

speaking generally here and not looking for specifics just curious as i run the switch/wiiu homebrew community

im new to HA fwiw

[dawn badge]

i dont recall seeing anything. but nintendo doesnt really play well with others so...

[shut magnet]

no they dont natively but like i say from a homebrew perspective i do wonder what could be possible

[dawn badge]

what would you want it to do?

[shut magnet]

well im initially thinking of just a dashboard ... we run the DNS that allows browsing , though it has JS limitations due to the webkit ran .. but im just fishing for ideas and curious really

[dawn badge]

there was a thing a couple of months ago i think. sec

https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/1i9ns3b/wii_u_home_assistant/

no idea how well it worked but someone got the ui loaded

[shut magnet]

yeah wiiu has better (although old) support for a browser , sadly the switchs native limited browser was only designed for wifi logins hotels etc... we enable the connection to this via our DNS but we have had to incorporate several polyfills to cater for this and still its limited..

pain in the ass tbh

[dawn badge]

you could homebrew an native app that uses the HA API if you wanted maybe? i dont know anything about dev for them

depends how deep you want to go

[shut magnet]

i/ our team could do the hard yards from a console perspective.. like i say im new to HA and have really only got as far as collating all my devices with no automations etc... its a brilliant system so far.. really getting excited by the possibilites

not sure what im thinking about really just like i say curious whats out there and what may be possible.

a side note from a more realistic perspective what would be the goto for a tablet like wall mount experience using HA

just any old generic tablet ? or do you guys recommend something more ?

oh , im open to options what do you suggest

you lost m,e real quick there

im referring to a UI for the general viewing of my dashboard and simple switching of device by my family etc...

[dawn badge]

for a dashboard tablet then a cheap android tablet and run fully kiosk on it works well.
but as others say, unless you really need to show information then its not what you want.
having automations to automagic stuff and normal switches that trigger stuff is ususally better

[shut magnet]

yeah i want both , i want the automations , but also manual overides and simple things spotify stuff , life360 info etc.. i get i can just automate stuff but having the visual interface appeals to me

fwiw im an electrician and have it all sonoffed anyways .. lol

[stuck anchor]

i use wall mounted (not in electrical boxes, just mounted on the wall) zigbee switches for lights for manual override. looks familiar and anyone can use them instinctively. but they are seldom used since lights come and go automagically.

[shut magnet]

yeah automation is one thing but for that to be the only time you need lights on etc isnt alwys the requirement.. you cannot cater for all scenarios and having overrides is thing for our house at least

well i have them in the ceiling behind the lights .. no switches / blanked them off..

all done currenly via alexa

i could yeah , just gotten used no not needing them

not sure my sonoffs would allow for two way switching tbh

[clear ferry]

You don't get paid?

https://tenor.com/view/wink-smile-winking-anime-wink-hey-gif-4943096145275352689

[forest edge]

go smart breakers and and be proud of the cost

@tidal bronze How's life treating you? Not had a chance to keep up with the state of California lately so if you lost your home to Water/Fire/Earthquake/Homeless/Act of God I feel bad for you, if not then 👍

[tidal bronze]

I am little tired of winning these days. Other than that life couldn't be better.

[forest edge]

winning? you and the mrs go to bingo night frequently?

[tidal bronze]

Although my customs broker is winning more. 😁

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-blackish-anthony-anderson-tears-upset-gif-16398356

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/gulag-joseph-stalin-gif-1303406357648712159

[forest edge]

explains the love for the metric system

no no it's ok. we see who your dad was

probably, I read he was very smart

[static schooner]

it's definitely more passive aggressive when they can see you screwing with them

[dawn badge]

automation idea, doorbell causes blinds to open revealing cardboard cutout of you with speech bubble that says go away

[forest edge]

how is that messing with me?

or have anything to do with me at all?

[dawn badge]

but thats less fun

didnt DeviantOllam mention something about that tech recently. was a video when he was talking about some stuff at a tradeshow

[forest edge]

there is a paintball camera that was crowd funded

not legal in some countries

[dawn badge]

i cant remember the exact context but something about auto tracking turrents and capsaicin rounds

[forest edge]

https://www.paintcam.net/

the vomiton ammo would be a heafty lawsuit lol

the sound one may not be

providing it all it did was create the boom

and not actually hit anyone

[tidal bronze]

Living down in Middle Earth, aren't you depressed all the time?

[forest edge]

only during the rainy months

i mean I sit here watching my yard grow out of control but can't do anything about it cause the second you walk outside it starts raining

wtf is up with that

you see someone get convictred using that? I haven't

as long as you don't harm the person I think it's legal

[tidal bronze]

I don't think so. You guys don't know what to do with yourselves.

[forest edge]

so stuff like blank shells etc would be fine as long as it wasn't aimed at the person who tripped it

[forest edge]

I wouldn't expect you to know anyhing abou rain or water outside of salty ocean to begin with lol

sound alert of what

sound alert when someone presses your doorbell?

dosen't it do that already? lol

just hang a no soliciting sign and don't answer the door lol

provoking some of the people who find thier way to front doors isn't wise if you follow sites like nextdoor lol

I don't have issues with rando's coming up to my door.. wtf is going on down in your neck of the woods?

[tidal bronze]

Ugh another meeting. 😑

[forest edge]

ugh? really?

tire of drinking all day everyday?

you finally hit your limit?

[tidal bronze]

Brooklyn meetings are so different

[forest edge]

the girls aren't as pretty?

thus the no soliciting sign...

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/no-sleep-beasti-boys-no-sleep-till-brooklyn-insomnia-i-cant-sleep-gif-17103332

[forest edge]

I heard of reading issues outside the major cities around these parts.. thought it was a myth

[tidal bronze]

Every meeting is like this. 😅

[static schooner]

Real business gets done at the bar, as they say

[forest edge]

strip joint i hear

I wonder if Bazooka's is atill around in KC..

[sick rune]

OK, so I have a weird one. I just got my voice PE set up and in testing it out I tried to set the temperature in my living room using voice and it sets it but it’s off by 2°. Is this a me thing or other people experiencing that?

[static schooner]

great question for #1284966915055288530

[sick rune]

Damn, I thought it was in that thread sorry guys

[static schooner]

talking about booze and Brooklyn here

[forest edge]

00f it is and omg the selection

🤢

[static schooner]

you can tell by the Beastie Boys

[forest edge]

i bet shit like onlyfans really hurt the strip joints lol

classic internet ruining something else

[dawn badge]

this is where it was mentioned briefly: https://youtu.be/CpmkdDYZ4jk?t=670

on the legality side, i dont know

[forest edge]

eletric transfer hinge

thats cool that those exsist

[static schooner]

That's a #1284965988642590891

there's no support here. please post in #1284965988642590891

in #1284965988642590891

this isn't for this channel

[deft pewter]

For discussing anything but support, yes.

[static schooner]

look, please post in #1284965988642590891

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/twisted-sister-were-not-gonna-take-it-anymore-hair-band-heavy-metal-gif-16781498

[silent dove]

The topic of this channel is:

There’s no support here - only chill. Come in, grab a drink, chat with your fellow community members! This is a space to talk to other smart home enthusiasts. If you’re looking for support and unsure where to go, check out https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284968640189304913 - it should help you find where you are going. No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

[static schooner]

it sounds like it's not for you

I don't understand why you're still arguing. Post in #1284965988642590891

[dawn badge]

that kind of question belongs in the support channel, or you could just make the issue. either way here is not the place

[static schooner]

it's already off the screen, so you might as well post in the right place now

[spring haven]

he vanished 👻

[crimson nacelle]

This is easily the most condescending unhelpful community I've ever been a part of… and I've been a part of many.

[deft pewter]

No-one's even started being condescending toward you 😂 Want them to?

[spring haven]

sorry, but what isn't understandable in "There’s no support here - only chill." ? 🤔

[deft pewter]

Oh, no. They gone.

[dawn badge]

even if you dont understand, if your told thats a question for xyz channel then just move

[static schooner]

Oh. No. Say it ain't so

[forest edge]

well that's not entirly true. @tidal bronze needs all the support we can give him with him living such a horrible life winning all the time and having to party for meetings etc

[static schooner]

Even Duff Man could party too much

[spring haven]

https://tenor.com/view/duffman-respirar-simpsons-breath-sticker-gif-15951281

not sure what this mean, but the duffman goes down, so it should fit 😄

[deft pewter]

"Duffman cannot breath". It's Greek.

[gusty belfry]

https://youtu.be/1W_mSOS1Qts

Steve went full ham.

[tidal bronze]

Yes, please!!!! I need all the emotional support I can get. ❤️

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-hotdogs-in-face-gif-3583518563673175919

[crimson nacelle]

This comment in it's own is condescending.

[tidal bronze]

Am I noticing a little drama here?

[weak musk]

Did QF kick someone?!?

[static schooner]

I don't think QF is really known for actually...moderating 🙂

[tidal bronze]

That was 10 years ago.

[static schooner]

heck, he doesn't even drink in moderation

[tidal bronze]

Honestly things are much better compared to how it all started. One channel for everything 😅 good times!

[forest edge]

I dunno, we've lost some good people

[tidal bronze]

And you still here.

[static schooner]

with a buffet

[forest edge]

i said good people

[tidal bronze]

Juat because you are good.

[forest edge]

was this the set of the fast and furious movies?

[dawn badge]

the straw at the end got me

[tidal bronze]

That's the best part.

[static schooner]

The one straw 😂

Hey, get your own!

[static schooner]

I feel bad when I've accidentally given somebody the wrong directions and only realize later

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/you-should-have-bought-a-squirrel-rat-race-squirrel-regret-gif-13441091

[static schooner]

Well, if you want to go there, I wouldn't start here...

[tidal bronze]

The Pitt simply amazing!

[weak musk]

Faaaaantastic show

You rent a theater to watch hbo shows?! Baaaaaller

[tidal bronze]

Wish they did it in ATMOS

Yep, the mass shooting incoming audio is epic

[weak musk]

the last time I went to a theater someone got in my face and threatened to "fuck me up beyond recognition" because I asked them to quiet down (they took a call ON SPEAKER PHONE)... so I went the route you did after.

Yep. Way nicer experience. And in my case, I can cuddle with my dog. Which will always beat theater.

[ocean oar]

I was somewhat surprised, one of the local cinemas that used to have that problem (less the picture, but definitely turning up the volume to the point of clipping) seemed to have fixed it.
I hadn't paid for the showing so there wold have been no refund to claim anyway, but pleasantly surprised that it was a nice experience.

[tidal bronze]

Home theater or not, this is a must 😀

[ocean oar]

There wasn't a lot of choice in cinemas here for a significant fraction of the past decade, 2/3 of the multiplexes within an hour drive got wrecked in an earthquake in 2016, we had only one other "big" cinema in the city that was open, and a dozen 2-3 screen independents (but all with biggest screens seating 150 or so)

[tidal bronze]

I upgraded the amp for transducers. Although I will be going to DB cinema on Saturday for Accountant 2

Airbnb too

[weak musk]

airbnb used to be great. now it sucks so much.

[ocean oar]

Has its uses, sometimes you did need to rent a whole house in the suburbs for a week. Have done that when I was travelling for the likes of milestone birthdays of family, would share a house with my sister and her partner, my father and stepmother, and me and my partner.
The actual staying in the spare room of someone's house while they're still there experience, hell na

[forest edge]

not the one here. it's great

assuming you are refering to the theater

[forest edge]

B&B actually owned the drive in's initially

but thier theaters are good

not crazy that they do pepsi over coke but w/e

it's a local family thing so local support always gets brownie points

[dim drift]

Is there a voice install similar to alexa?

[static schooner]

Please post in #1284966915055288530 and clarify what you mean by 'install' when you do

[lean haven]

Hi everyone. I am rather new to HA and very new to this plaza.

I would like pull data recorded by homeassistant and for processing, statistics, printed reports. So, I guess, I would like to build on either the history integration or the recorder integration. However, I don't know if I should create a custom integration or an add-on, and in turn I don't know in which channel to ask. So, i thought, maybe the water cooler crowed would point me in the right direction. 🙂

[solar zealot]

If this is about building your addon or integration #developers is the place

[iron granite]

#developers is read-only.
You can go to id:customize and select "I want to contribute dev skills to Home Assistant". That gives you the Developer role and access to the support channels for devs.

[stuck anchor]

you could look at the influxdb integration. it exports data into a influxdb instance. you can also set up the influxdb add-on if you want the influxdb instance running locally on your ha node.

from influxdb you can easily pull data into grafana, also available as an add-on

[random agate]

A quick, slightly vague question - there is a broken core integration with a well-tested fix, but sadly the only person with permissions to merge the update hasn't responded and thus the fix missed today's patch release. What's the correct process to get someone else to step in and merge it?

[young sigil]

Ask in #developers

[random agate]

Ironically, I don't have access to that channel 🙂

[dawn badge]

get the dev role from the channels and roles section

will reveal the dev channels

[random agate]

Ta.

[dawn badge]

include info like issue/pr links etc... so people know what your talking about 🙂

[random agate]

Yeah, didn't want to clutter here with it as I was wanting a pointer rather than answer. Thanks for the nudge 🙂

[cyan nimbus]

Question for anyone that has a VApe if you click an AAC radio stations under media in HA do they play?

[robust flicker]

I can do that with the radio browser...

I can't speak for your area but it's definitely there for Mobile Alabama.

Find out your local NOAA radio's call sign, and search for that in the radio browser.

Huh. I dunno. My home Internet is currently out, so I can't remote access my home assistant at the moment to see how my weather radio is listed, I just know it is, because I use it in a morning automation. HA plays it for 30s every morning before switching the stream to another local station. (92ZEW)

[robust flicker]

Oh, for.... "some kind of memory board for a drone" wtf. It's a socket A motherboard from like 2000-2005...

And yea, I sent him a message "this for a computer, not a drone. And I haven't seen one of these in 20 years. Good luck "

[dawn badge]

you could probably use it to provide memory to a drone...

[robust flicker]

The thing is older than my daughter. 😂🤣

[solar zealot]

how do you even think about this being drone related

like it has no wings

"muh uh i know what i got dont send low offers"

[stuck anchor]

msi kt3 ultra perhaps? 2002.

[robust flicker]

Because the guy saw this on the front of the box, most likely..

[robust flicker]

Close. KT7 Turbo.

[clear ferry]

Holy that is old

Gives me flashbacks to my Abit BH7

Remember I was flashing the bios of that card and power went out, in before dual bios

Had to call a number in Taiwan and have them send me a new eeprom

I was 14 at the time I think

[robust flicker]

My athlon was in a gigabyte Ga-7zx

[clear ferry]

Athlon 🤢

Remember I was playing around with a duron 800 and when I removed the heatsink it broke in two

I did the same with my pentium 3 and I could play quake for an hour

Then it shut down

[robust flicker]

The only reason there's an Intel CPU in my house is because it was given to me. My laptop is AMD, my desktop is AMD, my kid's desktop is AMD, my wife's laptop is AMD.

[clear ferry]

I've had so many AMD servers returned the last few years because they were shite before zen3

[robust flicker]

Built my folks a duron back in the day. They never had a problem with it.

[clear ferry]

Zen1 was a fucking shitshow

[solar zealot]

they tried their best

[clear ferry]

It wasn't good enough

[solar zealot]

wouldnt have happend with bulldozer

[clear ferry]

Now I'm rolling out a lot of amd, but it is mostly because of their number of PCIe lanes

When you have 8gpus

Brrrrrr

[solar zealot]

or was it opteron that somehow ended up in servers

[robust flicker]

I've had athlon, athlon64, FX.. my first AMD was a 486DX40

[solar zealot]

i never remember their old names

[robust flicker]

People talk crap about AMD, but forget that AMD developed the 64bit chips in use today. Even Intel uses amd64 chips these days.

[dawn badge]

getting pcie lanes these days is awkward. companies be like "what you mean you want to put cards in the slots?"

[solar zealot]

16x? all we can do is 2 but only if you dont want sata port 2&3

[clear ferry]

Yes and no, amd64 is a blanket term

[dawn badge]

my current "big" server is a xeon with 40 lanes

[clear ferry]

Brb x16 slot with X1 electrical

[dawn badge]

E5-2618L v4 is getting a bit old now though to be fair

[clear ferry]

2016 yall

[patent crest]

hey im new here but what is the-water-cooler?

[dawn badge]

random chat

[patent crest]

oh ok

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/bs-memes-funny-kid-gif-431838878332190162

[dawn badge]

theres alot of complaining about stuff around here mind

[patent crest]

hmmm

[dawn badge]

pcie lanes being rare for example 🙂

[patent crest]

ok now

trash talk

my dashboard

is it good or bad

[dawn badge]

nice

[patent crest]

i made it today

[dawn badge]

if it works for you thats all that matters

[patent crest]

hmm

how old are you guys

like in avg

[dawn badge]

use it for a bit and see if you want to change it

[patent crest]

okk

btw

im in grade 12

[clear ferry]

My dashboard

[patent crest]

noice

should i flex mine?

[clear ferry]

Not if it has RGB

[dawn badge]

is that a stuffed koala?

[clear ferry]

[patent crest]

no rgb

[clear ferry]

Yes its your mom

[patent crest]

ufff

[clear ferry]

[patent crest]

sexy koala

[dawn badge]

dam

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/dam-damn-gif-27530020

[solar zealot]

Weird looking raccoon

[patent crest]

💀

[dawn badge]

i dont get the onsession with RGB. i went half my time buying stuff looking for shit without a billion leds

[clear ferry]

@patent crest don't tell @last cedar

[patent crest]

sure

i wont tell

hmmm

[clear ferry]

Adhd go brrrrrrr

[patent crest]

stop the cap

nobody can buy billion leds (dumb af brain of mine)

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/gotcha-bitch-trash-panda-raccoon-feeding-racoon-gif-14184588

dont trust the raccoon

[patent crest]

@last cedar go crazy right there

[clear ferry]

[peak slate]

Lol here I am with wled running all over the place in my house

[patent crest]

here i am with no led

[peak slate]

Under shelves, up the stairs, in the bedroom

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/rgb-pc-skeleton-leighton-computer-gif-20494089

[primal laurel]

it's more like, can you even avoid it. Everthing has RGB nowadays

[patent crest]

here i am in india where led dont matter

[peak slate]

(tbh the stair lights are motion triggered and 11/10 for going around at night)

[patent crest]

RGB + GAY people = perfect combo

[clear ferry]

Tried buying a coffin for my grandad, it had 456 RGB leds, SMH my head

[patent crest]

hmmm

[dawn badge]

automated stair lighting is great. i use a couple of gu10s for it

[clear ferry]

Sasori kaal budjit

[patent crest]

grandpa with those rgb lights be like

dingadingading

[dawn badge]

keeps everyone safe on the stairs

[patent crest]

hmm

so

?

[dawn badge]

or at least you can see if you fall

[patent crest]

not so safe

with extra lighting

[peak slate]

I set mine up to change with the seasons so I have no effort seasonal lighting

[robust flicker]

Watch that G word.. I turn 49 in August, kiddo. 🤣

[patent crest]

you gotta use those type of rolling seated stairs in that up pixar movie

[peak slate]

That's the extent of my decorating

[clear ferry]

Reminds me of that guy that came in here once a month when his HA stopped working, because the stair lights didn't come on so his disabled parents had trouble getting downstairs

Was running ha supervised on a weird sbc

[dawn badge]

the gu10s are actually rgb so i could do stuff but just basic lighting on the stairs was the goal

[patent crest]

what do you run ur HA on?

[last cedar]

Send me an Aruba thermos flask and I will forgive you

[clear ferry]

Gji-chan

[primal laurel]

my hospital is running supervised on a W zero, how cooked am I

[last cedar]

Otherwise I do know where you live

[patent crest]

whats that

[clear ferry]

A DL380 Gen9

[peak slate]

Lol, my gen 1 was just a banister wrapped with Christmas lights, the LED strip goal was to let us use the banister without getting caught in wires

[clear ferry]

I will pick one up for you next time I'm in the office

[last cedar]

That metal flask to the right of the middle screen

[primal laurel]

I know where your house lives

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/racoon-dumpsterracoon-gif-27182277

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/police-racoon-dust-bin-police-racoon-racoon-dustbin-dustbin-trash-racoon-gif-26093417

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/ally-gif-19132123

The koala looks fluffy af though

Confession time, I also have (as well as many raccoons) a koala

[dawn badge]

1 at each side of the stairs

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-10879712043490182902

[last cedar]

What in the cinamon toast fuck is that

[dawn badge]

its a project box, part of an off the shelf lamp holder, a EP-lite, and a shelly bulb 🙂

[last cedar]

If it works, I guess!

[dawn badge]

more details and photos here if you want to know more

[primal laurel]

it looks like a mini grenade launcher

[dawn badge]

also allows me to make the old doorbell chime work again through HA

[last cedar]

@dawn badge to be fair, I shouldn't judge your stairs light, this is mine

[dawn badge]

depends how temporary that is...

[robust flicker]

There's nothing more permanent than a temporary solution.

[last cedar]

Been like that since 2021

[primal laurel]

WTF is that wall

[last cedar]

It was the height of fashion in 1944 apparently

[robust flicker]

I'm more curious about the window. Is that doublepaned safety glass?

[last cedar]

3 glass, isolated edges, filled with argon, wood inside, aluminium outside

I feel you need the full effect of the stairs....

[glacial knot]

We call it windows.

[robust flicker]

Ah. I couldn't decide if it was triple paned, or double with plastic sheeting on each side.

[last cedar]

Bonus cat tax payment

[glacial knot]

Do those go to your butcher room?

[last cedar]

Don't tell everyone

So as you can see, I have spent more energy on the outside than the inside, so far

[glacial knot]

I cannot see any outside so...

All I see is some supreme cable management

[last cedar]

Like 6mm hardboard type stuff? No idea why it is green

[last cedar]

The non poe cables get very warm, so they need to be evenly spaced

[robust flicker]

Well, boss is here. Time to pretend to work.

[last cedar]

Those are the feeds to upstairs for network, will be replaced with a patch panel

[glacial knot]

Before or after you move out?

[last cedar]

Probably after

Partially done patch panel

Ran 10 to the loft, 24 to upper floor and 24 in the cellar

[glacial knot]

Neat

The one nice thing about the paper walls

[last cedar]

By the way, the hallway...

Looked like this when we moved in

@glacial knot Before

@glacial knot After

Sorry for double tag

[glacial knot]

Why did you rip out all the nice wood? 😮

[last cedar]

New windows, insulated on outside of old timber (took asbestos plates down), new wood, new windows doors

[last cedar]

Didn't want to live in a sauna

I wouldn't be surprised

[glacial knot]

I thought you are Nordic o.0

[last cedar]

English

[glacial knot]

Looks cute though

[last cedar]

Will be fish and chips wallpaper when I am done

Tyvm

[glacial knot]

Do it

[clear ferry]

Aren't you done yet @last cedar ?

[primal laurel]

it's like in silent hill, when it transitions to the other world

[glacial knot]

When people ask about details I just tell them that I dick around all day

[clear ferry]

I just say I get paid to have fun

[last cedar]

All thats missing are the cute nurses

[clear ferry]

And the sexual innuendo

Of a repressed man who killed his wife

Yes I played SH2 before Stefan was born

[glacial knot]

Why is there no life size 🦝 statue clinging to the chimney??

[primal laurel]

did he really kill her though

[clear ferry]

Yes

[robust flicker]

Them: "What exactly do you do all day?"
Me: "Tell inmates that if they want me to fix their F* TV, they need to lock down in the cells, STFU, and to quit tearing up my @#$#@ing smoke detectors."

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/spoilers-doctor-who-gif-8623491

[glacial knot]

Ah yes. Pond

[robust flicker]

Actually, I usually only need to tease them a bit about the TV, they like us, because 1) we aren't COs, and 2) as mentioned, we make their TV work (among other things lol)

"Hey, if y'all want TV, go sit down, y'all know we ain't allowed in there when y'all are out in the common areas..." And the other inmates self-police the rest into behaving.

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-frick-what-the-heck-whats-going-on-surprised-confused-gif-14759939

[weak musk]

I like the fire extinguisher for when your server cooling fails…

[weak musk]

I only use it for alerting and post “bedtime” lighting (aka red lights so I don’t nuke my night vision)

[stuck anchor]

one guy from top level management at a previous job asked me why they paid me so much when he never saw me working... i asked him if he remembered how often they had issues before i started, and how seldom there was any trouble anymore... and he agreed. 😄

[weak musk]

“you pay me to make sure things don’t go wrong, seems like it’s working”

[glacial knot]

I get extra money when I fix immediate issues
I haven't gotten any in almost a year
Because I fixed some underlying issues...

[primal laurel]

engineers in EU dont get paid nearly enough

[static schooner]

You're gonna engineer your way right out of a job at that rate

[stuck anchor]

we went from a minimum of 2 calls/day outside office hours to maybe 1/month

[weak musk]

-# activates kill switch

https://tenor.com/view/you-sure-about-that-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-are-you-absolutely-certain-are-you-positive-can-you-verify-that-gif-10549268703103241949

[static schooner]

Shut up or I shall replace you with a small shell script...

[desert cave]

A friend did that to an entire department once

[clear ferry]

I have that in case anyone throws a ha yellow / green / blue into my room

[primal laurel]

I bet you have on right next to your serverrack

[clear ferry]

We don't? I'm not even an engineer and I get paid twice my wife who is an engineer 🤣

[weak musk]

didn’t you say you make around 130k?

[clear ferry]

Little bit more

Depending on bonus

[weak musk]

Ok, cause that’s what many of my engineer friends made base, straight out of college in the US….

so I think Stefan is not wrong

[primal laurel]

compared to US

[clear ferry]

The us pay in HCOL areas is bonkers

My job in the us (in California) is $270k

Same company

Same job

Yet I still make 3x median average here

[glacial knot]

yea, I'd make 100k more in MTV

granted, that's in $ not €, but they aren't that far off

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/mtv-logo-classic-gif-5588797

[glacial knot]

almost

[clear ferry]

But we would have to pay $43k to see a doctor though @glacial knot

[primal laurel]

but does your job fit in a category? otherwise it's hard to compare. I would compare to EE, but it depends what industry and what location

[glacial knot]

nah. We got decent health insurance via the employer even in the US

EE 😂

[clear ferry]

It consultant yes

[glacial knot]

You don't get some silly title like "customer success engineer"?

[clear ferry]

I'm a principal engineer

My personal title was "jackass of all trades, master of none" until i started doing calls with US managers, because snowflakes

Now it is "jack of all trades, master of none"

[robust flicker]

I knew there was a reason for the dislike. 🤣 I'm an analyst 😛

[clear ferry]

[glacial knot]

My reporting chain got "Software Engineer" and then some C titles above that 😂

[glacial knot]

It's spelled "enemy"

[clear ferry]

Used to be 14 people between me and the CEO, now it is 6

[stuck anchor]

i usually claim that i can fix anything it related as long as it's not microsoft. 😄

[glacial knot]

I only got 3

[clear ferry]

We used to be 350k employees though

[robust flicker]

There's no CEO in my place of employment. I work for a local governmental organization.

[glacial knot]

for a moment I wanted to check the max that reported into sundar
but I don't, so that'd be cheating

oh, lazy enemy 😂

[robust flicker]

The pay isn't exactly competitive, but our health insurance is top notch.

[glacial knot]

you mean, your pay competes with your expenses?

[clear ferry]

[robust flicker]

Nah, I mean for similar jobs in the private sector.

[glacial knot]

I'll figure out whether my pay is competitive when I exercise (or give up) my options D:

[clear ferry]

We actually give 6m paid maternity and paternity leave in the US too, which is apparently insane according to my colleague who got 2 days when his kids was born 10 years ago, and his wife who had a c section got 3 days

[glacial knot]

dunno how much we get. But since I don't plan to have kids anytime soon

[primal laurel]

ah yes, health insurance tied to your employment status. FREEDUMMM

[glacial knot]

I just know that it's orthogonal to the state scheme. So the other parent gets to take the entire state allowance^^

[static schooner]

Do they still do options for you? Most companies switched to RSUs a long time ago here

[clear ferry]

I told my managers to fuck off with rsu

[glacial knot]

I work for a ""startup""

[clear ferry]

Double quotes, are you even started at that point?

[glacial knot]

we even have customers

[robust flicker]

@primal laurel History lesson. In WW2, FDR enacted wage controls. Which limited the pay companies could offer to attract employees. So they started offering healthcare as a way to get around that.

Fast forward a few decades, and that was made to be tax exempt.

So you could (and still can, actually) purchase insurance on your own, but your full income is taxed, where y if you use the insurance offered by your employer, you pay less in taxes.

[primal laurel]

a broken system can be fixed. Like using imperial units, or zoning

oh wait

[clear ferry]

We just do it double, public healthcare and work gives me private healthcare that is tax deductible

[glacial knot]

I don't mind my work provided travel health insurance^^

[robust flicker]

Sure, but it's so entrenched now, that it's basically impossible to do so. Those in power have the ability to change how votes are counted to stay in power.

[clear ferry]

Yeah our family travel insurance through work is pretty nice, costs me $30 a month, cover the entire family, and basically anything that can happen

[robust flicker]

But now we're veering dangerously towards politics, so I'm out. Gotta work anyway.

[primal laurel]

it's never impossible

[glacial knot]

nono, making fun of the US is globally accepted

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/station19-travis-montgomery-oh-thats-us-thats-us-that-is-us-gif-25216611

[stuck anchor]

the extra insurance we had for the kids when they were minors explicitly stated that it covered damages from fighting, even if they started the fight 😄

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-wanna-do-huh-randy-marsh-south-park-s9e5-the-losing-edge-gif-22282222

[stuck anchor]

i'm off to see if i can get a openshift cluster with some weird demands on networking set up

[clear ferry]

Shot?

Tell me you are a us citizen without saying it

Or maybe Brazilian

[primal laurel]

I only crashed my bike like 3x when I was a kid

[clear ferry]

Tell me you are dutch without telling me you are dutch

[primal laurel]

only 15km cycling to school! win!

[glacial knot]

your country is wider than 15km?

[clear ferry]

Half of the country!

Fun fact, my dutch colleagues send it to another office if it is more than 40m away

Meanwhile it takes me 27h to drive across the country

[primal laurel]

yeah, aren't you snowed in permanently?

[clear ferry]

It's been snowing all day actually

Melted well though

[glacial knot]

those neighbours look way too close

[crisp oriole]

Whazzupppp

[primal laurel]

sweden looks nice

[clear ferry]

Can't see that far

There is a few mountains between

And this view is actually out towards the sea

[glacial knot]

but do you see the sea?

[clear ferry]

A little to the left yes

Through some trees

[solar zealot]

We now can geogussr atx

Also we might get lost in a basement this large

He probably has his own satellite navigation down there

[clear ferry]

Hey hey, we have snow until June thank you very much

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-english-agent-yawn-tired-rowan-atkinson-gif-17502421

[clear ferry]

[primal laurel]

are you bored

https://tenor.com/view/internet-south-park-s20e4-wieners-out-typing-gif-20669319

[static schooner]

If you're just here to troll, I suggest stopping right now

[primal laurel]

this is the same guy who got banned a few times already

[iron granite]

Aw... You spoiled the fun, RobC.

[static schooner]

🚮

[stuck anchor]

you know... up north there is this saying... if the snow can carry a fully grown horse at summer solstice it will be a late spring.

[clear ferry]

Latest I've experience snow was 20th of june

Earliest was around 10th of September

[stuck anchor]

i think my cherry tree has genus-dysphoria.

[clear ferry]

I already did, back here

[solar zealot]

blink twice if they hold you hostage

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-morty-staring-blinking-blinking-eyes-gif-9563981347955276078

[delicate silo]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/04/google-ending-support-for-older-nest-thermostats-will-stop-selling-nests-in-europe/

Another point in favor of local device control...

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/never-harrypotter-angry-fire-no-gif-4751988

[storm granite]

On that note, it has a DFU mode accessible over the USB port. I wonder if custom firmware could be flashed, or perhaps a custom daemon to respond to matter commands?

Press the screen when plugging it in

[primal laurel]

#1284966353798697001

[old bear]

Yo guys. Im new to home assistant. But LOVING it so far. My setup is working better than ever right now, and I have integrated much more. Such a W product.

[smoky birch]

it's ironic, because if you block incoming/outgoing network requests to Google, they disable your Nest Thermostat rendering even Matter useless.

what was the point of selling matter as a feature if the device has to stay online

I've got the Google Nest Thermostat (not the latest but the last model, $129USD) and that was my mileage.

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge earthquakes, fires and all that but......FYI bruh!

[forest edge]

with all the aid money having o funnel in to rebuild... only california would brag about that lol

[tidal bronze]

Let Gavin break it down for you.

[forest edge]

yea cause everyone knows politicians are honest

[tidal bronze]

Sour grapes buddy?

[forest edge]

I prefer the green one's really

[hearty palm]

i am convinced that my ikea rodret switch is just broken

[tidal bronze]

Wow you roll on Snapchat huh?

Far away from KC, somewhere above WI, sailing.....

[forest edge]

ironically that's what cali drivers who move here look like when they drive thier car.

[vale hamlet]

does anyone know why it says op beside my name

[dawn badge]

if you start a thread you are the OP of that thread

[wooden egret]

<@&330946878646517761> hey shouldn't Rule 6 mention Open Home Foundation employees as well? Nitpick I know but seems appropriate 😄

[fathom sparrow]

wtf @lone dagger , how could you miss that

[lone dagger]

I haven't updated shit.

[keen bridge]

What like you've been busy?! 😜

[lone dagger]

But also, there are no "Open Home Foundation" employees in here technically....we don't have the role for the transition yet. 😂

[wooden egret]

ooof

[lone dagger]

I have a few role updates I need to do overall after the transition, but Community Day has been priority this week. 🙂

[young sigil]

Did you just break rule 6 to complain about rule 6?

[wooden egret]

it says to contact a @ Mod for issues! instructions unclear 😄

[tidal bronze]

What kinda day is that?

[forest edge]

finally adding the Macho Beefcake Man Club role huh? about damn time...

[young sigil]

No it says to "report any violations.". But I'm only pulling your chain.

[lone dagger]

QF i swear to god

[static schooner]

Cut him some slack. He's probably by the pool drinking some fruity libation

[lone dagger]

What a fucker.

SHARE WITH THE CLASS, QF.

[forest edge]

he just said yesterday he's tired of winning.. so he don't need no damn slack cut

almost sounding like atx these days

[static schooner]

Community Day is where you set up viewing parties around the world to binge Community

[tidal bronze]

I wish I was by the pool. Holding on to my wine until I pass middle earth 🙄

[lone dagger]

Oh hey, I was born there.

[static schooner]

Look at the cute little Manhattan there, thinking it's a big city

[forest edge]

you should look out the window. still light enough out to see all the "Fuck you coastal bastards" mowed into people's yards

[static schooner]

More like See Rock City on barn roofs

[simple gazelle]

I grew up near New York, I guess the one in the US should be New New York
https://maps.app.goo.gl/DgSgm8aysX41wFit7

I guess you've also got a Lincoln up there

[last cedar]

The crochet nightmare furby needs finishing too, don't forget!

[forest edge]

which one is you?

[tidal bronze]

Both!

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/slither-horror-scary-omg-gross-gif-3320300

[jagged lodge]

peak comcast customer support

[static schooner]

That escalated quickly...

[ocean oar]

No!

[jagged lodge]

100% an AI bot

I eventually got connected to a real agent

[solar zealot]

a real aigent

[old bear]

wth is that

[forest edge]

QF as both yuppie cali's

[old bear]

Lol Comcast (xfinity) keeps texting/ emailing my wife about some sort of unused/inactive email account . But never even had service with them once. 🤦‍♂️

[old bear]

[dawn badge]

perhaps service with some random reseller that they aquired at some point?

[old bear]

I mean its possible.

[lone dagger]

I was 6 months old when I did, we didn’t stay long. 😂

[lunar remnant]

Didn't realise how easy it would be to get GPT/Gemini/etc to recognise number plates (license plates) from a camera snapshot. I just told it to briefly describe what it sees and then take it's best guess at the number plate and tell me how confident it is. This is with no lights on so quite dark and it got 6/7 characters with "medium" confidence. With my outdoor light on it got all 7 letters and assigned itself high confidence

With a bit of tinkering and good light I think it could be a pretty reliable number plate logger

[tidal bronze]

Ah!

[tidal bronze]

Never understood logic behind LPR for home use.

[forest edge]

didn't realize you lived in such a crime infested area

[lunar remnant]

It seems to be doing an absurdly good job to be fair, although it's only looking at my driveway directly which is kinda easy mode

I'm mostly planning to use it to detect who of my friends and family just pulled into the driveway based on their license plate, so nothing that needs to be perfectly reliable - plate logging would just be a bonus when I install another couple of cameras that will be able to see to the street

[lunar remnant]

I live in a VERY safe area, there's like one crime a year and it's talked about until the next one... but I'd still rather have plenty of evidence of it

Although for me the cameras mostly exist as a "Don't be the easiest target on the street" strategy

[crisp oriole]

Last tweaks of my plan and chatgpt understands it better.

[lunar remnant]

Yeah a fixed focus zoom lens with some well aimed lighting could be almost perfect

[crisp oriole]

No idea what a blue curve is.

[lunar remnant]

... not really a zoom lens if it's fixed at one point. Prime lens with a long focal length. You know what I mean 😂

[vale hamlet]

What ai are you/end up with

[static schooner]

Apparently sheep can swim? https://www.threads.com/@ghassan_awwad/post/DI4Txo9I9QE?xmt=AQGzqu-2DXlINy_dXno7pjjm0oK95CHr8et-u9yxF5ZCpw

[lunar remnant]

That example was with Gemini but GPT works pretty well too, haven't really experimented to see which was best because I realised GPT doesn't have a proper free tier (unless I've missed something) so I switched to Gemini

[vale hamlet]

Nice

[solar zealot]

What kinda tech are you growing there

[iron granite]

GPU - growing plant units

[clear ferry]

It's green IT

[solar zealot]

font optimizing to save co2 moment

[primal laurel]

Serverrack is probably a good location to grow weed

[crisp oriole]

Really? No one thinking i sell my almost obsolete win10 laptop on kingsday.

[clear ferry]

Modern HPC wouldn't be great for hydroponics

60c inlet to racks

90c outlet

The heat exchange room might be good for growing

[primal laurel]

yeah just use a heat exchanger and toss the rest into your pool

LTT intensifies

[clear ferry]

Screw LTT

And all his shitkids

[weak musk]

lol what did his kids do

[clear ferry]

I sure hope he hasn't reproduced

[weak musk]

-# spoiler: I think he has 3

[clear ferry]

We can only hope they are adopted

Don't want that gene pool to survive

[iron granite]

Next week on : atxbyea joins the LTT crew.

[primal laurel]

damn atx is a hardcore LTT hater

[primal laurel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2zXFWmACBY

they made this entire video, only to realize at the end that PCB substrate is basically a thermal insulator

[clear ferry]

Mild shock

The cooling of the Apollo 8000 was always pretty cool to me, direct copper plates that connect when the server is inserted into the rack

We are doing some interesting stuff these days with closed loop inside the server, which has copper contacts that exchange with external water through another closed loop

[last cedar]

Atxs only like, in this world, are raccoons

[stuck anchor]

quite a few SFPs are not so happy with those exhaust temperatures in the hot zones

[clear ferry]

That isn't the exhaust, since there is no fans

It's the water outlet from the server

Or to be fair, there are fans, but they are only there for the nvme and io cards usually

Memory, CPUs, GPUs and other interesting stuff has DLC

[stuck anchor]

we have seen instances where servers with low cpu temps and variable fan speeds getting higher sfp failure rates. probably because the lowered fan speed means the servers across the isle can blast them. we don't see the same on low temp servers where fan speed is set to max, so we are now setting all servers to full blast to check the theory. it will take some time to get data of course.

so if water cooling leads to less fan activity you may want to use ducts to create a bubble around sfp's to protect them from their neighbors across the street

[clear ferry]

I really haven't seen SFP failure in NICs since around 2008 with the first gen 10g stuff

Those were horridly warm

[clear ferry]

There is no neighbors interference, these systems are never in a cube config

It is either in row or just single rows

And the rear doors are usually fully blocked

[lunar remnant]

They probably expected it not to work great tbf, they're more in the business of making content than doing cooling R&D

They also ice-water-cooled a MacBook Air, and clearly they didn't expect that to be practical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlOPPuNv4Ec

[glacial knot]

I know someone that seriously ran an icepack cooled MacBook Air for a while

[stuck anchor]

way back in the eighties some bbc model b's had a problem with the psu overheating. for those affected the easy fix was to keep a bottle of water in the fridge and set it on the computer for extended periods of work. earliest water cooling i know about

[primal laurel]

using any evoporative passive cooling?

[primal laurel]

yeah sure but to engineers this video is the equivalent of testing square wheels and then at the end being surprised it doesnt work

[clear ferry]

They usually use that to get rid of excess heat only

But 90%+ is fed back to the grid

And used for heating buildings or industrial stuff

[lunar remnant]

Yeah that's my point though, they don't pretend to be an engineering channel. They do tech news, tech reviews, some "how to build a computer" stuff, and some fun silly things like that just to see what happens

[primal laurel]

sure. But there is a large difference between 'see what happens' and 'this is doomed to fail'. I like the first one, the latter is just clickbait IMO

[lunar remnant]

Seeing what happens when something is doomed to fail can be fun too 🤷🏼‍♂️ occasionally it surprises you

[clear ferry]

Screw anyone who uses o-face thumbnails in videos

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-face-surprised-wee-bey-the-wire-revelation-gif-23831754

[primal laurel]

maybe, if you're just entertainment. Linus keeps saying he wants to be educational as well

[lunar remnant]

Educational as well not educational exclusively. I'd interpret that as "some educational videos, some fun videos, try to incorporate elements of each into the other" rather than every video having to be educational

And there is some educational value in there - you may already know that a PCB is an insualtor, but for a lot of people that would've been new information

[glacial knot]

The videos with Alex are nice. Since Alex actually is an engineer

[lunar remnant]

I think you're just not accounting for the fact you're probably overqualified for the level the channel is pitched at - it's aimed at average joe, not people who are wiring their house into a smart home and probably have a good understanding of tech stuff already

[clear ferry]

Ewww average people