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peak slate
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Proper lap dog size right there

robust flicker
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He absolutely thinks so! 😁

peak slate
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That's the best! My old dog didn't like snuggling, so he of course ended up being snuggled anyways

robust flicker
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He also cannot control his licker.

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All the goodest boys have licker problems. 🤣

peak slate
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Lucy is impossible in that way too, she'll give you a bath if you don't yell at her

runic cape
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I have the opposite of a problem, when I google about inspelning people talk about the metering being wrong, but for me it's fine. has it been fixed? some of the threads talking about the problems are quite recent, like 1 month

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couldn't find anything with ctrl+f in the most recent 3 change logs

primal laurel
runic cape
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They're power metering smart plugs from Ikea

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When I google about them supposedly they used to? report their values off by a factor of 10

primal laurel
unreal crystal
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Don't reuse plastic!

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Bought this today. Let's see how much I'll regret it.

Aqara Smart Light Switch H2 (2-in-1 Neutral, 4 Buttons, 3 Channels), Thread/Zigbee Protocol, Wall Switch

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I'm hoping I can get it to do 4 switches through thread and HA, and no physical power cuts. It seems like it can do that, just a lot of configuration.

robust flicker
unreal crystal
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Huh. I get to badge through and not have to go through metal detectors. Though I'm sure my security isn't as tight as a literal jail.

robust flicker
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Everyone goes through the scanner. Especially since there was a corrections officer recently caught and charged with bringing in contraband...

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And glass or metal containers are a no no

primal laurel
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Here they use drones to fly stuff into the prison

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Phones, drugs etc

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I have no idea how it works

robust flicker
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This is a jail, not a prison. Prison is where you go after sentencing. Jail is for people who have just been arrested. Although we do have a few "permanent" residents here, it's mostly just people waiting arraignment and/or trial.

ocean pivot
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Everything is different in this server now.
Where is the right place to complain and be sad about how flakey and messed up all my thread stuff is after updates now using the ZBT-1?

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ocean pivot
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I'd rather have help, but that usually ends up devolving into everyone just saying "yeah, its kinda busted"

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This is pretty painful

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static schooner
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The real, unadvertised use for Amazon drone delivery

last cedar
reef patio
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Is this where I come for noob questions?

primal laurel
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No

reef patio
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I installed HA on Ubuntu...but I don't know if that's what I want, or if I even did it the correct way...? -- I want to use HA, but I need to figure out if I should try to run the OS on a machine (metal) or if it's just as good using it via Ubuntu...I don't want to start over again, but I can... -- if I do bare metal...am I correct in understanding the BIOS has to have virtualization capabilities?

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Oh

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Well - where's the noob questions room? 🙂

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There are lots of rooms, not sure which is the right one for me.

primal laurel
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well it should be installation but that seems to have been yeeted

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so no clue

red rock
reef patio
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cool, thank you!

primal laurel
iron granite
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tepid mango
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Hi,

i have reolink cameras, is it possible in HA to have an AI system that plugs into reolink and based on a specific person or license plate detection to have it run an automation?

Reolink plugin seems to only have person and animal detection but not able to detect who the person is. Am I correct?
https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/reolink/

Home Assistant
Reolink

Instructions on how to integrate Reolink devices (NVR/cameras) into Home Assistant.

forest edge
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there are ways to route snapshots etc through facial recognition etc. in short, yes you can achieve that. not something to get into in this channel

robust flicker
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Sooo, my smart button/dial arrived today, despite Amazon telling me it was still in Chicago, and hasn't departed yet, and was expected 25 Mar to 1 Apr, lol.

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For reference, Chicago is around 1000 miles away....

iron granite
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Maybe you get a second one

robust flicker
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Heh. Maybe. I ordered just one because I wasn't sure how well it'd work for what I want.

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I'll probably grab a couple more if it works like I want.

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Plan is to use it to control smart bulbs in the kid's room, and if it works correctly, I may wind up using it for fan and/or light controls as well. We'll see

reef stream
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hey guys, i play video games, and i use a pc. My pc is downstairs compared to where the router is, and i cant use a ethernet cable to get all the way to my pc. are these good solutions? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084CZMYNM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

TP-Link Powerline Ethernet Adapter Starter Kit - AV1000 Gigabit Por...

TL-PA7017 KIT uses HomePlug AV2 technology to extend your wired internet. With Gigabit Ethernet port, it ensures high speed wired connection, providing data transmissions of up to 1000Mbps and allowing smooth transmission of Ultra HD video streaming. This makes the TL-PA7017 KIT the perfect home ...

weak musk
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They can be. Definitely not as great as a direct line.

reef stream
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yeah, but like i said is way too far :/
the only option is direct cable or those from tp link?

robust flicker
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Problem is, if the receptacles used aren't on the same circuit, you're going to have problems.

reef stream
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receptacles?

robust flicker
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Power outlets, plugs

reef stream
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like for power electricty?

solid sorrel
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hello, where's the best place to post a support query about ZigBee devices falling off my network?

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iron granite
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If you have a VDSL internet connection and the lines run to close to each other, using Powerline might cause internet connection losses.

robust flicker
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That is a receptacle.

dawn badge
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and if someone turns on something with a motor then they disconnect

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powerline adaptors are dreadful and should not exist. they activly distrupt mains power (not by a huge amount but still some)

weak musk
robust flicker
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MoCA would be a good alternative.

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in a pinch as a tempory solution i do understand people using them but they should not be a perma solution

reef stream
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oh so saying that, if i have those from tp link they use power and then when i start using a lot more power from other things the tp link are less performing?

weak musk
reef stream
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what would be the best way to improve my connection without using a direct line?

robust flicker
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weak musk
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I would look to improve my WiFi long before messing with moca or powerline

solid sorrel
reef stream
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over simplification but: they use the AC wave as a clock signal and inject data (interference) at the 0 point (or at least thats how they used to work)

weak musk
reef stream
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how can you make wifi better?

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reef stream
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your gaming and the fridge motor kicks in and you get massive packet loss for a bit

reef stream
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my fridge? Pepela

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weak musk
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reef stream
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what access point should i look to?

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ubiquiti stuff is pretty solid

reef stream
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why would i need a wifi card with an external antenna?

weak musk
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Because your signal would be better.

reef stream
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like from the providor ?

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big antenna gives better signal than small antenna

robust flicker
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Someone needs to do some serious learning before trying the DIY thing...

reef stream
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thats why i asked u guys D:

weak musk
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Big antenna on access point gives better signal. Big antenna on access point and computer give even better signal

reef stream
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oh waitttt for antenna and card you meant the motherboard card right?

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and the antennas on pc

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bru i thought you were saying external outside home antenna

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i am getting higher upload than download on my gaming pc

keen bridge
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Ideally if it doesn't move, wire it

tepid mango
keen bridge
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I pulled up my carpets and laid Ethernet underneath to switches in all the rooms.

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10/10 worth the time.

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WiFi will always be problematic

reef stream
keen bridge
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Power over electrical can also work

reef stream
primal laurel
keen bridge
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Exhibit A on why WiFi sucks. It's in the same band as Bluetooth and Zigbee plus other stuff

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primal laurel
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bluetooth is smart enough to jump channels

keen bridge
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I had 10 Bluetooth devices connected at that moment. I think I can understand the limitation

primal laurel
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keen bridge
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Long story. But a few health trackers (ring, watch, armband), headphones, keyboard, mouse, and some smart home devices I was reconfiguring

jagged narwhal
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Evening guys... has anyone managed to get a "Mi Band 9" actually working with HA? I've been speaking to the "Notify for Xaomi" group.. and they are stumped too.. I have the HA app and "notify" on my kids phone.. but when it loads is just triggers a "failed login" in HA... I thought it might be cloudflare so I even switched his to the local addresses.. but still no good... any ideas?

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primal laurel
keen bridge
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It's not a normal situation for me...

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keen bridge
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fair

keen bridge
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Current status: I've had 2 cocktails, and I have started baking brownies and cookies 🤓

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seems like you have got a semi productive evening under way

jagged narwhal
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if stuff is on the edge of catagories, as long as an effort is made to get it in the right place you will usually be fine

jagged narwhal
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thanks.

ocean oar
grizzled gull
ocean oar
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Nope, almost zero visible neighbour networks

weak musk
grizzled gull
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I'm blessed with a house with steel siding....

ocean oar
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But connected to a distant AP at around -80dBm does not get you 100Mbps

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More like 12, if you're lucky

grizzled gull
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Nothing messes with my signals lol

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Also means my cellphone connections suck

keen bridge
ocean oar
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My house has SOLID timber walls. Not timber/plasterboard cavity walls. Solid.
5GHz signal does not make it two rooms from the AP. Not just bad signal, no signal.

grizzled gull
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ick

primal laurel
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Lol

ocean oar
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I have three APs in a 92m² house.

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Also just to further hammer home how bad of an RF environment this is. Two Ruckus R650s and a H550. This ain't yer daddy's UniFi installation. Mine have proper antennas

weak musk
ocean oar
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That definitely doesn't help

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Also metal studs, those are fun

primal laurel
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It's because of the reflections

weak musk
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I think the walls are also made with horsehair plaster and lath in that part of the house still. It’s 190 years old lots of weird.

static schooner
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Anybody who talked about radio waves back then was probably burned at the stake

weak musk
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Probably. Like 60 years too early.

ocean oar
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At 190 years old we're still a long way inside the domain of "electricity came later"

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Seeing the way that was retrofitted into really old houses in the early days is certainly interesting

weak musk
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For sure.

keen bridge
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I used to live in a house built in 1833 which was turned into 1 house from 2 in about 1857-58 according to records.

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It was interesting at times.

weak musk
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Had it been gutted or were there things like 2 kitchens?

keen bridge
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But my Dad didn't get electrocuted until we moved into a house built in the 1930s so there's that

keen bridge
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(Which was just as well because we had fireplaces and needed to use them until we installed central heating)

weak musk
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Nice

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My parents have a friend in the same town that found secret passages and a hidden room full of shelves on hinges— so if you opened the secret door wrong the shelves would drop. All for storing booze in prohibition times

visual walrus
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I think I'm having a "me" problem since I'm not seeing anything on github or discord about it. I have the same gasbuddy integration hooked up over two different HA instances at two different locations but after 6 months one of them just died. Not quite sure where best to ask about this. Why does it hate me?
2025-03-21 10:12:47.043 WARNING (MainThread) [gasbuddy] Non-JSON response: Bad Request
2025-03-21 10:12:47.044 ERROR (MainThread) [gasbuddy] An error reteiving data from the server, code: 400
message: {'error': 'Bad Request'}
2025-03-21 10:12:47.078 ERROR (MainThread) [gasbuddy] An error occured attempting to retrieve the data: {'error': 'Bad Request'}
2025-03-21 10:12:47.078 ERROR (MainThread) [custom_components.gasbuddy] Problem parsing API response.

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Just noticing the dev missed the "'i' before 'e'" rule

static schooner
visual walrus
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yeah didn't think it warranted a new thread

static schooner
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If it's just a rhetorical comment, sure. If you wanted an actual answer or discussion, it's a thread

iron granite
static schooner
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it's like DNS problems

peak slate
iron granite
ocean oar
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Kids love this one

iron granite
static schooner
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I'm in that 'got new glasses and now I get to enjoy a headache while my brain adjusts' phase

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It eventually does, and it's kind of amazing that way

robust flicker
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When the original owner of the plantation died, his will granted multiple acres to the families of the slaves he had owned, along with letters stating how he regretted his family's part in the whole thing. The road has his name on it now.

keen bridge
primal laurel
keen bridge
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We had UK style central heating with an oil powered boiler

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So we'd get oil delivered about as often as we got our septic tank emptied IIRC

primal laurel
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oh yeah, I forgot about oil

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not a thing here

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gas was too cheap

keen bridge
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This place was >7 miles from the nearest town. Gas wasn't a choice and this was the early 90s, so solar wasn't an option either.

primal laurel
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but then the near surface gas drilling started causing earthquakes

keen bridge
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(That came later, and would have been great but not in keeping for the property)

unborn merlin
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who cares about the side effects as long as its not affecting the shareholders!

primal laurel
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it was shell who was responsible ofcourse. And they knew about it for decades and did nothing until buildings started collapsing. Fuckign oil and gas companies are rotten to the core, all of them

unborn merlin
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🙃

normal moon
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It is easy to understand the Citizens United decision ("corporations are people") if you assume they are the most selfish assholes you have ever met

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Folks who would literally stab their own mothers for shareholder value

primal laurel
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I'm not sure this has reached the mainstream media yet. But because of the fracking boom in the US there are massive methane leaks all over the place now

robust flicker
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@static schooner So I have my kid's button programmed for automations (dim/toggle) downside: it didn't create any buttons, and the device on/off/dim/brighten things didn't do a thing, so I had to use manual events. Upside, I learned how to create manual events. 🤣

versed forge
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i dont understand, what is the best channel to ask for support regarding ZHA and zigbee? i looked at #1284966353798697001 but the tags dont really have anything related to zigbee. same with #1284966540617449515

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oh just found the thread for "unsure where to start"

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forest edge
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it just dawned on me that you can no longer see the percentages on frigate anymore

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unless they are hidden somewhere

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I guess you can go into explore and see them but it's weird they are not on the alerts or detections tab

last cedar
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@forest edge this could be us, but you would turn me into filament

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last cedar
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Not yet

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Actually, no

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I would be made to work for the rest of my very long life

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Having an expiration date is nice, if you use it properly

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keen musk
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Here we are 3 days after your comment and I was offered the update to 15 today. Went ahead as I've never had problems with HASS........ Now have a major headache as HASS no longer works.

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peak slate
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Especially if you're rocking it all on a SD card

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primal laurel
# keen musk Backups galore on my my SD card, have just pulled it to see if I can extract the...

https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/issues/3943 there is a known issue with RPI 5 getting stuck. For more help please make a thread in the support forum

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Raspberry Pi 5 stuck after an OS update · Issue #3943 · home-assist...

This issue serves to gather information and troubleshoot issues with updating of Raspberry Pi 5 boards only. Before reporting an issue, try the following: Perform the update after a cold boot (unpl...

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primal laurel
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Like what?

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not-booting

solar zealot
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It will mess up your colored light settings by offsetting colors in each group so that they are slightly uncomfortable but not easily to point out

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primal laurel
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Ok, make a support thread

keen musk
keen musk
# peak slate Especially if you're rocking it all on a SD card

I usually pull a backup to the laptop if I'm fiddling with things as I'm more likeley to break things. To be honest I wasn't expecting issues with this update. With the number of updates I've seen in the past I thought it was the usual hit the button, sit back and wait a few minutes........

keen musk
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yeah its unusual for this kind of problem

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definetly look at moving off an SD card though. thats asking for future problems

solar zealot
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Rule 1, never put a DNS service on a device that could possibly need updates besides the DNS server
Rule 2, always push out the DNS server over DHCP so it can be quickly adjusted

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solar zealot
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Those don't really behave as one would think

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Some devices and routers try to load balance over them like idiots

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Id always leave the router one be external where it works then have an internal one between the router n client via dhcp

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its supposed to send to both and whichever one responds first wins. its not a failover

solar zealot
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Comes with the advantage of hostnames set by the router continuing to work

keen musk
# dawn badge or have a secondary dns server

That would be my only option. DNS is over DHCP, but it's a royal PITA to reconfigure. I have a few rules on my router to block DNS to anything other than the PI as I'm having to block all DNS (google etc) as if my devices realise where they are located then I have issues with streaming / iplayer. I'm on an L2TP tunnel back to the UK.

To top it all off the local cell tower shat itself on Sunday and I've been dealing with 5Mb/0.5Mb all week. Usually it's 100/40. Been a nightmare with working from home.

primal laurel
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deft pewter
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been dealing with 5Mb/0.5Mb all week
I'd love if my bad days were that fast 😂

keen musk
# dawn badge sounds like its been one of those weeks

It most definitely has been!

Tuesday is D day for the cell provider. 3 months into a 24 month contract (past 24 month contract went without a hitch). If it's not sorted by then I'll cancel the contract and go Starlink.

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Hmmm, the v14.2 release is no longer on pi imager. Found the assets on github,

haos_rpi4-14.2.img.xz or haos_rpi4-64-14.2.img.xz

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if your fresh installing then try a fresh 15.0 first

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iron granite
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If you encounter more problems with it, please create a post in #1284966540617449515 .
Support does not belong in this channel.

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blissful zodiac
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I want my child, Google.

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glacial knot
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google's repairing your child?

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google is repairing your child?

blissful zodiac
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My Pixel, yes

glacial knot
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I've seen weird things be called children, but I think this is the first time it's a phone

blissful zodiac
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Maybe for you.

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But I have seen a bunch of people call their phones children.

glacial knot
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🤷 I recently replaced mine because it was broken

primal laurel
robust flicker
iron granite
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So your wife needs to be replaced first?

blissful zodiac
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🤣 What have I done?

iron granite
glacial knot
weak musk
iron granite
glacial knot
weak musk
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My comment stands

rich epoch
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May be a long shot here, but... Anybody know of a good motorized (normally closed) stainless ball valve unit that will work with 200psi compressed air (<1.4MPa)
(like the U.S. Solid valves, but higher pressure rating)

storm crest
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I got my Linknlink mmwave sensors, they work well for the price - testing if they work through drywall. If they do I need to find a USB charger that can be hardwired.

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I didn't realize the model I got even had a light sensor, good value for the price if you don't need zones etc

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storm crest
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I just submitted a post there as well comfyRoo

weak musk
rich epoch
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That would probably work, but the clearance is pretty low and having to buy the valve and the valve controller would about double the price. I will go that route if I can't find something that's an all in one. There has to be something with as much compressed air is used in industrial applications.

last cedar
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The retrofit valve motors are sweet

raw tulip
fathom sparrow
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I’m on day 7 of straight drinking and I have a few more days, I donno if I can make it

sage cedar
crisp oriole
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I ordered my pe

heady zealot
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I'm kinda confused... Does this look like after sunset and before sunrise?

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wanted_time_before: '2025-03-22T12:16:38.743607+00:00'
wanted_time_after: '2025-03-23T00:29:53.433154+00:00'

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12:16pm and 12:29am?

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heady zealot
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condition: sun
after: sunset
before: sunrise

crisp oriole
young sigil
young sigil
crisp oriole
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My washer has a problem

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The mastodon server goes offline

heady zealot
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k

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forest edge
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oh yea.. something is going to thaw out that will kill us all. I just know it. https://youtu.be/0F4HtjIpW7U?si=MhU-3MwdeEtrWiq_

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midnight timber
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what's the latest meta with smart remotes? looking to automate stuff in a highly-customized setup....the harmony seems like it would have worked well. A newer version of the same thing could be pretty sexy?

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YIO Remote Two?

deft pewter
gloomy ermine
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Hello, i dont know where to ask so ill ask here, so im running the docker container for hassio, but need custom elements that are in hacs, is there any way i can have those without hacs?

iron granite
gloomy ermine
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thanks a lot, although i think i found the way, wasnt as hard as i thought it would be

last cedar
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Missys favorite

deft pewter
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WiFi control 🤢

runic cape
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Ikea's smart plugs say you're not allowed to plug them into each other, and I really wonder why not

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You could probably make a binary counter using the toggle switch-on behaviour xD

runic cape
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which is unfortunate because it's affordable and everywhere

last cedar
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General consensus is that tuya is hot garbage though, you are correct

runic cape
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I'm not aware of all the issues but being internet-dependent is enough for me to want to disregard

deft pewter
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Most of these things will have local-only control, even if it takes the community to reverse engineer the protocols. But WiFi connection for smart stuff? Gross. Adding a ton of noisy devices so they all compete for airtime with your phone/laptop/etc? 🤮

runic cape
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I actually had a situation once where I couldn't control my Philips hue lights because no internet

deft pewter
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Huh? They use Zigbee, which doesn't give a damn about your internet.

runic cape
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The remotes etc. still worked, but the app didn't

deft pewter
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Ah. Just don't use the app 😄

runic cape
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It was a bit of a corner case: my app had been updated beyond the hub thing, and it refused to communicate until the hub was updated too

runic cape
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That problem wouldn't come up now that I do, and the existing programs for it still worked, but it still soured me on Hue a bit

deft pewter
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Sure. I think that's true of most ecosystems though, right? It's easier for them to make some web-based thing than to make a hub that does both web and local.

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I haven't used many devices that treat local control as a priority. Only thing that comes to mind is my Omada switch, where I don't care about even touching the web control side.

last cedar
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Thank god for home assistant!

weak musk
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I’ve got all smart WiFi stuff on my 2.4 (which is my garage opener, thermostat, irrigation controller, 1 esp device I made, 5 Apollo devices, and a handful of lifx lights) network and all of our computers/tablets/phones/AppleTVs are either hardwired or on the 5ghz network. Seems to work fine.

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I throw any guests we have on a 2.4 guest network so they can deal with any noise— can’t let them get too comfortable 😅

last cedar
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I just don't have guests, much safer and more secure

iron granite
open raptor
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Hello, anyone know a hardware zigbee that can monitor the DC Voltage. the Purpose is to monitor my Battery Volts

iron granite
last cedar
static schooner
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nothing fishy going on there at all

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looks like a totally normal furry toilet paper holder

primal laurel
solar zealot
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wish me luck people

forest edge
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no

solar zealot
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tomorrow the gas meter gets changed

forest edge
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break a leg

solar zealot
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i beg that i can get my esphome reader to work on the new one

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or at least that the guy has a digital reader for me to purchase

forest edge
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aren't all new gas/electric meters "smart" ones?

solar zealot
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here you get what you get. they replaced the one we got new when the house was built with one nearly ten years older

forest edge
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lol

solar zealot
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i dont mind because a reed sensor costs 3 cents but like i want no rf garbage

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unfortunately they dont come with p1 yet

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or maybe they do

forest edge
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at least rf works

solar zealot
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id have my doubts, lets say that

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i guess but it feels noisy

forest edge
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not had any issues with mine even though there certianly does seem to be an uptick in RF devices around my area

primal laurel
solar zealot
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yes but the solution to them is stupid

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at least for electric ones they can put one in and you need to pay for readouts

forest edge
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pay for readouts?

solar zealot
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like ??? no thanks

primal laurel
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pay?

solar zealot
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yea its some flat fee calculated over your yearly consumption. could also consider it a bonus charge for renting

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at least thats what ive seen

primal laurel
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lol they should be paying you for all the data they get to use to diagnose their grid

solar zealot
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yep

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even the people in the water sink have all the smart stuff!

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tbh id like getting something with a p1 readout

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gives me a reason to buy something from homewizard again

primal laurel
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P1 is great

solar zealot
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their watermeter is excelent

primal laurel
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homewizard is dutch. So you know its good

solar zealot
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they know water you mean

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i just hate companies naming their apps not like them

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oh of course my senheiser can be controlled with "smart" and homewizard is "energy"

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like come on its not that difficult

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im not searching for healthy food and getting the kfc app either

forest edge
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what is KFC like over there?

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saw some menu diffrence with the McDonalds in norway and japan.. it's like not even the same joint as here

primal laurel
#

overprized crap. Same like mcd and burgerking

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crazy expensive for what you get

solar zealot
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terrible

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like if you dont go for their coupons it makes no sense to get there in the first place

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and then its always tasting like dry shit

forest edge
#

crazy

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fast food got expensive here but it's mellowed some. still higher than it should be imo

solar zealot
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like the usual brand fastfood is just not something anyone with a brain would get here

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like your avg meal there costs as much as in any other better food shop

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oh a burger and fries for 15 bucks??? surely they would put meat on there like anyone else

forest edge
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well someone has to be going there otherwise they wouldn't exsist

solar zealot
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5guys for less than 25 just aint a thing

forest edge
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crazy

solar zealot
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i mean i dont mind if it would result in people eating more healthy

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but they dont so whats the point

primal laurel
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meal combo at mcd here is 20 euros + 6 for delivery. What are they thinking

solar zealot
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like 20 bucks i sit down at a restaurant and get table side service

forest edge
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ironically fast food is healthier for you now then it use to be lol

solar zealot
#

back then they had more fun with cocain in their drinks aswell

#

its just going downhill since then

glacial knot
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You got 5guys? o.0 are you in Austria? probsT

last cedar
primal laurel
weak musk
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tbf 5 Guys was stupid expensive in the States the last time I looked.

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(and it's not even particularly good)

glacial knot
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I had it in Ireland once
it was pretty meh

forest edge
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weird how people can manage to fuck something up as simple as fast food

weak musk
glacial knot
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just avoid chains in general 🤷

forest edge
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well you don't stop going to the grocery store to buy apples just because you found one bad one

weak musk
forest edge
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I couldn't limit my pallet that much

weak musk
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Aren't you the guy who freaks out anytime @tidal bronze posts something food related?

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Anyway, there are an abundance of local restaurants where I live, so I'm not exactly suffering.

forest edge
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plenty of food option without having to result to eating bad food

umbral cliff
forest edge
umbral cliff
forest edge
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well in either case, just like the apple. you can return the food and get your money back. and usually if the food isn't that bad, could result in free food

tidal bronze
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Wow! Simply wow!

primal laurel
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Same with pizza or pasta really

solar zealot
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Yes hello,one lobster to go please

primal laurel
twilit belfry
#

Anyone around for a chat?

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well thats ominous

weak musk
sage cedar
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Ain't nobody here but us racoons...

weak musk
dawn badge
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<@&330946878646517761>

static schooner
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Stupid spamming raccoons

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He's typing the spam right there

primal laurel
forest edge
sage cedar
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Lembas, the finest of elven fast foods. Puts burgers to shame.

blissful zodiac
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I'm gonna install Graphene onto my Pixel.
Should I use the sandboxxed version to keep location tracking?

gusty belfry
#

Zwave network: I have decided to be alarmingly slow
Me: Attempts to debug
Also Zwave network: Just kidding imma speed back up, but only until you give up.

glacial knot
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you angered Heisenberg it seems

static schooner
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RF is magic

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Black magic

forest edge
static schooner
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Radio wave goes: Nope, just not feeling the vibe right now...

glacial knot
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yea, I kind of want to get a decent SDR kit to debug wifi shenanigans

static schooner
#

I used a Zniffer to see zwave routing and retries. It led me to replace a crappy routing device

glacial knot
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my issue is with the Voice PE
connection seems to drop quite often, and I'll have to figure out on which step 😮

forest edge
#

get an alexa+ and have real conversations!

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wtf you can finally upgrade reolink shit from the app and not have to download zip files anymore? what a time to be alive!

glacial knot
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I could hook it into Gemini if I wanted to do something like that

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If I can find something reasonably priced, I might get a GPU (Jetson?) box to run the NN parts locally

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I'd like to get a TPU, but from what I've seen the support for them is still iffy and sometimes quite fiddly

ocean oar
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Getting kinda long in the tooth, these days

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(the TPU, that is)

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People keep writing newer, more CPU-destroying things

glacial knot
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🤷 there's also lots of things intended to run at least partially on GPU, so it should be fine with an accelerator to offload to

unborn merlin
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not the same as the slop generation stuff.

blissful zodiac
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Meanwhile back at home:

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iron granite
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Abnormal microwaves

blissful zodiac
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Which is below the normal 30 setpoint and flags it.

unborn merlin
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... yes but why ? 🤔

blissful zodiac
unborn merlin
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ah yes, the needlessly smart microwave bullshit

blissful zodiac
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And those aren't the only badges that might appear.

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(The HomeBase isn't armed one lets you arm it from there, so it's the only one with an available action.)

glacial knot
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You can read the temp from your microwave digitally..?

unborn merlin
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almost like if you have to ask, you're too poor.

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😛

glacial knot
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we don't even use it. And we are an Alphabet company rooKek

blissful zodiac
forest edge
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wouldn't you know you ran out of coke when you went to grab one and there was none?

blissful zodiac
glacial knot
forest edge
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and if low, whats the point of out

blissful zodiac
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Out means there's 0.

forest edge
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sounds like a waste automation imo

glacial knot
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saving you from a trip probsGalaxy

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yea, the high marginal cost of adding a state 😂

blissful zodiac
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It's done freezing itself!

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forest edge
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in theory you should never see out and if you did it was likely after you already realized through the typical means lol

iron granite
blissful zodiac
unborn merlin
#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg79n_ndR68

You know its good when you need a utility transformer to run it.

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iron granite
blissful zodiac
golden wing
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my homelab server has an intel arc a380 and a coral tpu, so i like to joke with my coworkers that it "has a better gpu than a <insert latest tpu platform> and a better tpu than a <insert latest gpu platform>"

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at first i didn't even recognize these without the rest of the chassis and heatsinks

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glacial knot
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Are those SFP sockets? probsT

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I never looked into how they are connected. I just assumed PCIe tbh.

golden wing
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there are some pretty cool papers that have been publicly published detailing design details for the water cooled TPU platforms

unborn merlin
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I think the lower profile ones with sockets embedded halfway behind the cages are probably some sorta PCI link

glacial knot
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yea, sadly we can't tour DCs
needs business reason and L7+ approval to get in rooD

golden wing
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wait fellow googler?

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i wish i could do a headcam of a day of what i do in the DCs lol

glacial knot
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I'm in Intrinsic (other bet)

golden wing
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ah

ocean oar
glacial knot
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afaik we are the only people in (formerly) X that are outside the US rooComfy

golden wing
ocean oar
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They identify the connector thusly

golden wing
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ah, makes sense it wouldn't be a proprietary thing

ocean oar
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I'd also suggest the QSFPs are likely QSFP28, because anything higher throughput (QSFP56, QSFP-DD, etc) usually has a heatsink

golden wing
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i've spent a good chunk of time over the past 6 months diagnosing issues related to these (and other components on the same pcie path)

golden wing
ocean oar
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QSFP112?

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I mean also OSFP, but those are physically larger

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I've spent a lot of time lately getting annoyed by the lack of interoperability between a lot of these options without very expensive DACs with built-in retiming hardware

unborn merlin
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I mean.. the goal is stupid performant connectivity in expensive servers.

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so not like they give a fuck about things like that; at that level?

ocean oar
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I work for an organisation with 8-figure budgets, not 10/11-figure ones.
Sometimes "new shiny thing" has to be made to connect to "old (but still faster than 99% of the population could dream about) thing"

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Because you can't replace all of it at once

golden wing
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big fan of how we just release a whole lot of this stuff publicly

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TPU v5p is what i've spent the majority of the last 6 months deploying

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like some really technical public papers too

glacial knot
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ye, google has some nice sides

primal laurel
golden wing
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well yeah i doubt they're gonna publish chip layouts lol

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but it's still a whole lot more info than i'd ever guess would be public

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considering how strict they are in the DC about not taking photos or videos for example

primal laurel
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im not impressed, sorry

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this is impressive

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holy hell level of detail here

cyan nimbus
#

Anyone use homekey with their door lock and ha? Can you tell me if you have to unlock your device, then click your wallet, then select the homekey or it just lets you swipe it on the reader while your iOS device is locked?

weak musk
cyan nimbus
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do you touch the phone to the lock while in wallet or something?

long elm
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Can anyone tell me how well zwave penetrates walls? Im looking to buy a motion sensor and cant find any decent ones for wifi. My HA instance is in my garage in an enclosed rack. My motion sensors are on the other side of my house lol.

weak musk
weak musk
long elm
cyan nimbus
weak musk
#

Still the wrong place for this

cyan nimbus
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it somehow lets you scan a homekey with it and acts as a bridge. Just not sure once installed on the esphome where you would scan it in iOS

grizzled gull
cyan nimbus
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I'm looking for a person that has done the process not looking directly for the answer here. They can explain the answer in a DM.

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I would personally ask that at a watercooler.

grizzled gull
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You're more likely to get assistance in one of the support channels

primal laurel
cyan nimbus
grizzled gull
#

This conversation scrolls so fast that nobody will see your question in an hour

primal laurel
weak musk
red rock
primal laurel
red rock
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good for you

cunning olive
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I've got a light base that take 3x 40w B10.5 bulbs. Trying to find good options at the B10.5 is hard. Anyone got any good suggestions? Needs to be warm light, no flicker. If I could get higher than 40w LED equivalents for this that would be awesome.

weak musk
cunning olive
errant creek
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Anyone have Nora Iolihgt 2" Recessed housings? I am looking at putting some in and wanted to know if anyone was happy.

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Also, I see these dimming options on their housing. Anyone know anything about this?

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last cedar
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Quick, mods are not here post funny raccoons

robust flicker
runic cape
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Theoretically I could have downgraded my app

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by going somewhere with public internet...

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In my case, just not updating the app when away from home also would have prevented the issue

primal laurel
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Not updating is just fighting against the stream

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Like I am not updating my Synology because they removed features

runic cape
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In my case, it was the desynchronisation of versions that was the problem

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My app became more updated than my hub, because I had no home internet but my phone had internet

ripe oar
#

I currently have my Home Assitant connected to my domain through Cloud flare and have proxy on, I keep it up to date and uses long complicated passwords. Is there anything I should be worried about security wise?

iron granite
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Yes, if you are not using 2FA.

deft pewter
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Gotta add hand-rolled encryption too just so no-one knows how to crack it

pure tusk
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Where do i post for a HA ui bug

primal laurel
plucky sparrow
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I don't know where to report that, but the buy button on the voice device page in the center does not work (firefox, win11)

deft pewter
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(firefox, win11)
So many things wrong there 🫠

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to be fair I don't think it works on chrome either

lone dagger
static schooner
#

Millions in lost sales per second

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Missy's salary relies on it being fixed ASAP

primal laurel
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if you fix it within the next hour I will buy one

exotic bane
exotic bane
primal laurel
exotic bane
red rock
exotic bane
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-# Terms and conditions apply. Cache isn't included as part of the deal

red rock
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-# we don't take cash anyway

exotic bane
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-# dviperGun

red rock
long cape
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Thought I'd share this here

forest edge
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How many of you are spooging over the new unifi G6 camera lineup?

hoary canyon
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I did grab some of these bad boys though.. (U7 Pro XG)

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forest edge
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old but that was funny

sage cedar
heady zealot
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Is the new zwave js interface buggy? Half of my devices quit working after upgrade.

weak musk
versed forge
#

Is it possible to name devices automatically based on their area, type, etc?

tribal goblet
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wondering why the voice assistant demo isn't working, and it's missing in my settings, before realizing HAOS is years out of date on my device

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also wondering why a ton of add-ons are telling me I need to update. I'm on 2025.3.6, why is it telling me I need to update to 2023-something? And why is the latest version 2025.3.4?

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tribal goblet
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no i'm just a dummy,I was actually on 2023.3.6 and I can't read

static schooner
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ah, 2023. 'twas a simpler time

forest edge
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a little over $300 to have a windshield replaced in 2025 is insane

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insane in a good way

iron granite
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You replace a windshield?

forest edge
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had a windshield replaced yea

static schooner
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mine was quite a bit more expensive than that

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but some of that was recalibrating sensors and such

forest edge
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on a windshield?

static schooner
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yep

forest edge
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I thought rain sensors etc weren't actually placed on the glass

static schooner
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I also have a camera to read street signs up there

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it's behind the glass, but apparently needs some work

forest edge
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interesting. this was on a early 2000's car so no fancy stuff lol

static schooner
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my car is like a pufferfish of sensors

unborn merlin
static schooner
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I don't know if this is actually true, but:

When it is time to replace your car windshield that is Equipped with Windshield Night Vision System, all the cameras and sensors are removed and reattached after windshield installation. A recalibration procedure is then required to ensure that this critical safety system is functioning properly and is performing in accordance to the manufacturer tolerances.

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and I don't have that specific system

unborn merlin
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anything that allows mfr's to fuck you; really.

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money-wise 😄

static schooner
forest edge
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shit like that is what drove up the price of older used cars lol

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think i just squished the grandfather of all mosquitos and have no idea how the hell the thing even got into this room

regal schooner
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howdy. Looking into lighting and I saw people reccomend the ikea Tradfri. I have a couple of Phillips Wiz lightbulbs. why dont people recommend the wiz that often? which come for 10.99 a bulb?

unborn merlin
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if I had to guess because of phillip's habits of shitty decisions and dickishness with their app? 😄

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yeah "phillips" would be the main answer there

regal schooner
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I only turn on the lights through google home tbh

unborn merlin
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no you use google home via phillips app I presume?

as I doubt phillips would ever just..
... let things work without their bullshit in the middle?

regal schooner
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i dont even have the philips app

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also: the Tradfri is zigbee and the wiz is wifi

regal schooner
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edit: im a liar

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i have the wiz app

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it's a set it once and then control from google home forever after

unborn merlin
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do you have them vlan'ed away from the internet?

unborn merlin
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hue app was like that before.

and then... phillips changed the deal because fuck you.

regal schooner
regal schooner
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if not then theres no reason why phillips cant push a firmware update and charge you to turn the bulb on

hoary canyon
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atleast it looks like they have local communication settings in the app

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from a quick google search

unborn merlin
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for now.

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phillips has a habit of being a dick.

hoary canyon
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yeah, I’m just saying better than Ring and stuff lol

regal schooner
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I'm looking into getting smart bulbs for my overhead lighting in my new apartment hence looking into the sub.

I'm thinking just buy packs of tradfri and call it a day

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they currently have local stuff yeah which is good but they dont have any crediability for us to beleive it will stay that way

hoary canyon
unborn merlin
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could also just use regular dimmable bulbs and grab a shelly smart switch or something.. 😄

hoary canyon
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overhead lighting gets expensive for a bunch of bulbs

regal schooner
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tbh i am not knowledgable about switches. am open to learning though

hoary canyon
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are you renting I assume

regal schooner
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yes I am renting

hoary canyon
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may not be an option if renting, landlord probably won’t let you in most cases

unborn merlin
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well then bulbs only, probably. then. 🤷‍♂️

regal schooner
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there is going to be overhead lighting in both the living room and bedroom

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ah ok good to know

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will pocket the switches for when i buy a home someday^tm

unborn merlin
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haha thats funny..

you're not a boomer you don't get that. /s

regal schooner
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assuming each overhead light has 2 bulbs i probably will need about 6 if I account for 2 floor lamps as well

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just remember to keep the dumb bulbs to put back in when you move out

regal schooner
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for sure will leave em in a closet somewhere

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maybe 8 if I go small lamps as well and get some kasa smart switches

unborn merlin
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... most parasites landlords don't want people fucking with wires

regal schooner
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i've been drowning myself with interior design stuff this past week

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kasa is another one i dont overally trust

regal schooner
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ah I used the wrong term

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I meant wifi plugs

unborn merlin
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when in doubt.. prefer shelly whenever possible. 🙃

hoary canyon
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If you get HomeKit compatible stuff you should be mostly ok. But best is getting something that’s zwave or zigbee.

regal schooner
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does shelly make wifi plugs as well?

unborn merlin
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because they've been... shown to not be a shitbag (and their hardware is basic esp stuff and can be flashed if you want)

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Yeah; they do

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regal schooner
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oh wowza they do

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they are not that much more expensive than other wifi plugs but they are alot better

regal schooner
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im surprised the 4pack is cheaper on amazon

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thanks for the recommendation will look into it more

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if im reading the room properly tradfri is the easy recommendation for smart bulbs

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yeah zigbee stuff has its benifits

quasi peak
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anyone know if there are outdoor rated motion sensors that work with HA?

hoary canyon
quasi peak
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google is like no help

hoary canyon
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Z-Wave

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quasi peak
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i wanna turn my firepit lighting off when no one is there

regal schooner
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i'm surprised the tradfri product page doesnt market the color temperature

hoary canyon
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https://www.thesmartesthouse.com/products/zooz-800-series-z-wave-long-range-outdoor-motion-sensor-zse70-800lr-motion-temp-lux

The Smartest House
Zooz 800 Series Z-Wave Long Range Outdoor Motion Sensor ZSE70 800LR...

Outdoor MultiSensor PRODUCT HIGHLIGHTS Security alerts: Get instant motion reports to your Z-Wave hub whenever movement is detected. More climate data: Monitor temperature outdoors or indoors and use this information to trigger connected devices in your system. Smart lighting: program your Z-Wave outdoor lights to come

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hoary canyon
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that’s more of hassle than it’s worth when they could just get a motion sensor

quasi peak
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yeah

hoary canyon
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if they already have frigate set up, sure

quasi peak
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looking for simple

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90% of my stuff is already alexa level

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just use HA for the bridge to zigbee stuff

unborn merlin
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ehh.. 2.4ghz radar sensoor even betteer.. probably

hoary canyon
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dunno if there’s any outdoor ones

unborn merlin
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I mean.. most are made 😄

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pir outside is fine for turning a light on when you walk outside but not for static pressence detection

hoary canyon
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I don’t know of another good option then tbh.

unborn merlin
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frigate, or mmwave.. or combination

hoary canyon
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Camera sounds too complicated for something “simple” like that

regal schooner
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what's the differnece between these two? clearly the globe is clear for the 13.99 one

https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/tradfri-starter-kit-smart-wireless-dimmable-warm-white-20541554/

https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/tradfri-led-bulb-e26-800-lumen-smart-wireless-dimmable-white-spectrum-globe-80489751/

"Adjustable white tones" is the best description they provide

IKEA
TRÅDFRI starter kit, smart wireless dimmable/warm white, E26

TRÅDFRI starter kit, smart wireless dimmable/warm white, E26 This kit is already pre-paired, so all you have to do is screw the light source into the lamp socket and then start using your smart lighting. You can dim your lighting wirelessly and easily adapt the lighting based on activity.

IKEA
TRÅDFRI LED bulb E26 800 lumen, smart wireless dimmable/white spec...

TRÅDFRI LED bulb E26 800 lumen, smart wireless dimmable/white spectrum globe Is the kitchen table a place for breakfast, work, homework and cozy dinners? With this smart light bulb you can dim and change the light tone from cold to warm to get the perfect light for every occasion.

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mmwave outside is no good because of false positives. because nature moves 😛

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camera and frigate is the best option IMO

regal schooner
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ah.. if you hover over the "color' you get a description

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clear globe can have a range of 2700 to 4000K while the opaque globe is only 2700 and dimmable

hoary canyon
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It may be easier to just have it auto shut off at a certain time

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like 11pm, midnight or 1am

quasi peak
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not really, just on nice nights when we use the firepit

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ortherwise the low light solar powered stuff is fine

regal schooner
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i'm doing more digging into the zigbee hubs and now I know what you guys are referring to when saying HA

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If I'm understanding correctly the option would be (if I want automations)

A. buy the DIRIGERA + STYRBAR from ikea
B. Buy HA + STYRBAR

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you dont need any other hubs

regal schooner
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wow that's awesome. So I just plug it into a usb port and it'll act as the hub?

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more or less

regal schooner
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i suppose the styrbar is just a remote for when I don't want to use a smartphone to control the bulbs

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does this mean all I'll need is the bulb(tradfri)+ the Connect ZBT-1?

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the styrbar is a zigbee remote so you will be able to do anything in HA with it

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regal schooner
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what would the interface be to control the bulbs?

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something like the google home app?

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whatever you want it to be

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a dashboard on the home assistant companion app. a switch, whatever you decide to connect to HA

hoary canyon
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Not sure if it was mentioned, left for a little bit, you need a computer of some sort to run HA on

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or can grab one of their premade hubs

regal schooner
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will it always need to be on?

hoary canyon
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Yes

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Ideally

regal schooner
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ah I see

hoary canyon
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I’d advise against raspberry pi’s if you’re looking into equipment

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Can grab a used mini PC for similar pricing and get way better specs

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hoary canyon
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^ that’s a good plug and play option

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Just be warned it’s a rabbit hole 😛

regal schooner
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i'm starting to realize that

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if your main purpsoe is builbs and a few automations then a green is a great option

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its super low power consumption too

hoary canyon
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If you’ve ever installed operating systems before, I’d honestly advise you to grab a $60 mini PC off eBay as it’ll give you more room for expansion. Otherwise, yeah Green is great for people not so experienced and just want plug and play.

regal schooner
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yeah all i really want is the

  1. ability to turn on/off using my phone/smart hub (like google home)
  2. ability to dim/change color without switch
  3. automated cycles/configurations
hoary canyon
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green should be fine then

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a green would be a great device for that, comes installed and ready to work out the box

regal schooner
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i'm still mapping a mental model for how all of this connects so apologies for being slow to connect the dots

hoary canyon
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That means manufacturers can’t push an update bricking a device or remove something you use.

regal schooner
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I see so zigbee is a protocol kind of like wifi/bluetooth

hoary canyon
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Yes

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yup

hoary canyon
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You can also look into Z-Wave stuff, depending on what you branch off into

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I have both on my instance

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zwave is probably worth avoiding unless you need it for something tbh

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it has its own problems

hoary canyon
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I’ve had a better experience on Z-Wave than Zigbee personally, seems like it depends on the person

regal schooner
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Home Assistant gets internet access (or not) and lets you control it while the devices have no internet if you wish.

this means this could all be setup without any internet connection? so long as the hub( HA green) is on, ZBT-1 is powered, and the device is within the proximity?

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my 2.4ghz frequencies are a mess so it’s a little unstable

hoary canyon
regal schooner
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that's so freaking neat

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Home Assistant works on your local network (your network inside your house)

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that means you can unhook your Internet cable and still have it work and control it from inside your house

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in the EU though yeah I wouldn’t recommend zwave as much

regal schooner
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regal schooner
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does that imply that the hub (HA Green) continues to be a repeater for the devices in the proximity

hoary canyon
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^

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I just mean like the fiber cable or coax / whatever

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the WAN cable connecting you to the worldwide internet 😛

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if your internet goes down you can still turn the lights on 😛

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which is a bigger issue then people think and they only realise it when the internet goes out and they are stuck in the dark looking for a spare dumb bulb

regal schooner
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ah I see so we're not talking about the cable connecting to the hub but my ONT

hoary canyon
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That’s why I use smart switches when I can 🤣

hoary canyon
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point is the control is all local, not via various servers all over the world

regal schooner
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i hear you. I enjoy understanding something end to end so that I can understand what happens when things go awry

hoary canyon
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It’s especially useful for stuff like cameras

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Ring, Nest and a bunch of others require you to have an Internet connection to record video. Internet goes out, you lose the footage

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If you get something local, you don’t have that dependency

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That was mainly an example ^

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fucking ring doorbells fuck me right off. they bill you to use it like a normal doorbell. and then when they have an issue in their Datacentre your doorbell doesnt ring

regal schooner
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that makes sense. built in redundancy from external fuckery

hoary canyon
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delivery drivers have started activly not interacting with them here.
bang on the door instead. because if someone is not there they dont want to talk to them because its of no use to them

hoary canyon
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lol ones here don’t even do that. They just leave the package at the porch now

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some do that some dont. some depends on the value

hoary canyon
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Yeah if you have a package that needs a signature they try to reach you

regal schooner
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if i'm undersatnding correctly

  1. setup HA Green (plug in ethernet, power)
  2. power ZBT-1
  3. use Home Assistant app/access Home Assistant user interface
  4. Connect my bulbs (?)
  5. set up automations via google home(?)
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you dont need google home

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home assistant does the automations

regal schooner
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oh sweet. I guess if I want to turn on/off via voice through google home then I'd set up that integration

hoary canyon
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If you want voice control, one thing to know is that you’ll need to pay for either HA cloud or go through some steps to make your own skill/app for Google home to connect to. I think if it’s newer though you can just use the Matter protocol to expose HA devices to Google Home

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yeah, the easy way to do that is by getting home assistant cloud

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its one of the very few "paid features"

regal schooner
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It seems this is the tradeoffs of going wifi or zigbee

hoary canyon
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if i am the only one in and i am in the back i have an automation that sounds alarms and flashes lights all over the housee. i could a driver once saying he rang the bell when he didnt. his face when i pressed it and the whole house went nuts...

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lol I have something similar when the alarm system triggers

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the lights dim on and off continuously, all the speakers blare alarm sounds… until disarmed

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even the outdoor cameras have sirens play

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some wifi stuff can connect directly to both to be fair

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regal schooner
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i guess for people who dont find it worth the $ to localize their smart home set up, wifi bulbs provide powerful capability for a fraction of the price (although you are exposed to the risk of external fuckery)

hoary canyon
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I just updated mine, looks so much better

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regal schooner
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my alternative seems to be get the wiz lightbulbs, rely on smartphone/googlehome or physical light switches

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smart relays behind switches is my go to. switch still works as normal and can control remotly or with automations

regal schooner
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if i'm not mistaken it seems like if I'm okay with forgoing the redundancy that running HA locally provides, then

A. purchasing the wiz lightbulbs at $10 a piece

B. purchasing the HA Green, ZBT-1 , then the Tradfris at $14 a piece

values the local redundancy at about 150$

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which hasn't factored the cloud solution that i'd need to pay for in order to allow voice control

hoary canyon
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you don’t have to pay for the cloud service, it’s just the easy way to do it

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if you can follow a YouTube video, it’s not too bad to do it yourself without paying anything

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but yeah, you’re gonna spend more for a HA setup

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the benefits are you have way more flexibility however

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it’s like a portal to doing whatever you want for the most part in terms of smart home 🤣

regal schooner
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the cost is probably easier to justify as I learn more of the capabilities that I unlock with HA

hoary canyon
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definitely.

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Let me see if I have a screenshot of my dashboard already censored

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just so you can get an idea

regal schooner
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also happy to watch youtube videos if there are obvious oens you recommend

hoary canyon
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This isn’t a great screenshot but found it quick so whatever.

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regal schooner
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ah once you go ring cameras this becomes much easier to justify

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where as i'm just trying to do 8 lightbulbs hah (for now)

hoary canyon
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possibilities are endless

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automate and track all the things 🙂

regal schooner
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hwo does getting car stats work? is there a zigbee hardware that is monitoring that in your car?

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2 methods for me.

  1. is the car's API which gives me some data (slowly and badly)
  2. i have a esp32 attached to the diagnostics port that gets data from the ECU and reports it over wifi
regal schooner
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HA setup seems likea buy it for life type of thing - pay the upfront cost today, and then slowly build out my smart home over time (hence the rabbit hole)

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yup, you can add all manner of stuff

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my current production install

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regal schooner
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lol

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i think the only thing im stuck on now is the cloud situation

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i have some devices on the system that i am not happy to haave there but weeding them out as and when i can convince people to get rid of them

regal schooner
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It seems like if someone doesn't think controlling the lights via google home is worth $65 a year(through HA Cloud), then the user can just abandon that need and control wirelessly via remote/smartphone

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I see the GCP documentation but it doesnt mention cost / month

unborn merlin
regal schooner
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via the GCP route?

unborn merlin
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doesn't have a monthly cost

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one time cost I think to unlock GCP or something

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but its not much.

regal schooner
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yeah true

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this has been a fun rabbit hole

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spent 3 hours reading

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thanks for all the help, will look into this more tomorrow

unborn merlin
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I've been using it for a while

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not that; thats likely to continue considering that google is just driven to make assistant be replaced with gemini's horseshit

regal schooner
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i wonder what the rate of power consumption from wiz to zigbee would be that allows one to break even assumign that wiz energy consumption > zigbee

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so maybe buying HA Green + ZLT-1 + setup GCP for google home + 8 bulbs runs me about 300$

ocean oar
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The idle power difference between a WiFi and a Zigbee bulb is going to be measured in tenths of a watt

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Half a watt difference would be about $1 - $1.50/year for average kinds of energy prices.
If you think the bulb's lifespan is going to be long enough to make up the difference, then by all means.

forest edge
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oh i wonder if shelly will release a v2 version of the uni but with zigbee capabilities mindblown

unborn merlin
forest edge
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yea the uni isn't on the roadmap (yet) that I have seen but fingers crossed

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cause if the uni gets zigbee capabilities.. wow

iron granite
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I have my doubts.
The Uni doesn't really fit the usual Zigbee device profiles. It can almost be everything.

forest edge
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thats why it would be so awesome

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it does have it's limitations to be able to send what any zigbee device out can like voltage metering, control relay etc

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my understand of the shelly gen4 stuff is you can literally swap between zigbee and wifi by pressing the button. so you could set something up through the wifi gui and then swap to zigbee mode but it's not like you can't send commands to zigbee as is

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I just hope those devices don't like revert back to default wifi after extended periods of time with no power.. that would suck so much to have to fish that sucker from behind a wall switch or something to press that button 5 times

unborn merlin
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its just an esp32.

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its not gonna happen like that unless you really leave it unpowered for a long time

forest edge
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what is considered a "long time" tho? I have no idea

unborn merlin
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its an EEPROM on an esp32.. I dont know; but fairly long.

forest edge
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Jeff a little late to the game lol https://youtu.be/5M_hmwBBPnc?si=ARKK6AidqnDKh06K

YouTube
Level 2 Jeff
I won't connect my dishwasher to your stupid cloud

I don't recommend the Bosch 500 series. It's dumb.

Sadly, it seems all appliance manufacturers are going this route. Where will we be in 5-10 years next time I need to buy a new dishwasher? Probably even worse off.

If you want to follow in the footsteps of my pain, by all means, here's an Amazon Affiliate link lol: https://amzn.to/4jgULZ1

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unborn merlin
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just like you; because that was posted already 😄

forest edge
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14 hours ago

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not 24

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oh i see what you are refering to

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yea I missed that

unborn merlin
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probably, too safety friendly.

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if it can't shock a child its definitely not american

iron granite
atomic delta
# forest edge what is considered a "long time" tho? I have no idea

Assuming it's stored in eeprom or somesuch... Looks like anywhere from decades to weeks depending on environmental conditions.

https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/521712/do-eeproms-lose-their-data-over-time#521739

Electrical Engineering Stack Exchange
Do EEPROMs lose their data over time?

For example 8x8 small image stored on eeprom will get corrupt over time?
I've seen somewhere eeproms losing their data over time like vhs tapes.

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Probably closer to decades.

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haughty girder
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Has anybody noticed the govee integration has stopped working

primal laurel
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robust flicker
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My wife: "I made scrambled eggs" and my brain immediately pictured eggs flying WW2 era fighters. "Enemy fighters have entered our airspace, scramble eggs immediately!" Why am I like this?! 🤣

iron granite
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An alpha egg scramble glocke panik

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Lol well I recognized the aircraft immediately, looks like a classic p-51d mustang, even if you hid the classic bubble canopy, the radiator underneath gives it away and the rest of the build

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lunar remnant
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But yeah the P-51 silhouette is quite distinctive with the squared tail and wings, and that underbelly radiator. I still prefer the Spitfire aesthetically but it's a beautiful plane

peak slate
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They're all good planes

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Spitfire > Mustang, if only for the reason that it's British partyTime

young sigil
deft pewter
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Gotta give our allies those superior upgrades, right?

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I didn't realise there were so many spitfires still around. An estimated 60 are still airworthy.

forest edge
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you would say that

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you realize they were different planes designed for different roles right?

lunar remnant
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Not even "later" really, the vast majority of Mustangs except the very first ones had the Merlin engine

peak slate
lunar remnant
# forest edge you realize they were different planes designed for different roles right?

To be fair the Mustang wasn't really "designed" for its eventual role at all

It was initially designed for the British as a CAS aircraft (fighter bomber, tactical reconnaissance etc), using the low altitude Allison engine. Made by an American company for the British, with an American engine - mostly because British factories didn't have capacity

One British guy realised it would be amazing with the Spitfire's engine (RR Merlin) in it, and it became a decent high altitude aircraft. Then it was realised it had plenty of space in those laminar flow wings for fuel tanks and it ended up being a high altitude, long range escort for both the RAF and USAF

A great combination of British and American together - American designed to British specifications, then swapped to a British engine

Although yeah, neither of those roles are the same as the Spitfire's interceptor role which it was always intended for

There's a reason I specifically said I prefer the Spitfire aesthetically rather than as a blanket "it's better" because I agree with you, comparing across roles is silly. I just think the Spitfire is prettier

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Arguably the best piston fighter of WW2 is neither, I'd probably give the crown to the Hawker Tempest or Ta-152 - but it's easy to turn up at the end of the war and "beat" designs that have been fighting for years, so it's a bit of a hollow victory

peak slate
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Which is utterly impressive to go from zero to flight

robust flicker
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The P51 was a pursuit aircraft, not a dog fighter. Hence the P in the designation.

forest edge
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was way more than just that. the general public was real patriots. miracles can happen when you unite a country lol

robust flicker
forest edge
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are you saying there isn't a certian genius to that?

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Yeah, more maneuverable. Plus it's smaller, making it harder to hit from a moving vehicle.

forest edge
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its a spy plane

robust flicker
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Also, easier to build a DIY flame throwing drone than to buy a private aircraft and refit it. 🤣

forest edge
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curious about the whole drone direction we'll end up going now that Ukraine shown the world where we are all severly lacking lol

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like drone fever in this country anymore

robust flicker
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Everyone else: has beware of dog signs
Me: beware of armed drones sign

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Rtsp camera on a drone, run through llmvision for facial recognition... 🤣

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Honestly, anyone with a shred of historical knowledge should've seen it coming. Humans can turn pretty much anything into a weapon of some sort.....

forest edge
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Mustang was a bulldog

fading nest
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if I have a Shelly 2PM whose O2 is always on no matter what that sounds like an RMA, right?

forest edge
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assuming you can connect to it

fading nest
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yeah I can connect and toggle O1 just fine. the O2 relay doesn't even make the click sound

forest edge
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yea sounds like a bad unit. that stuff happens

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sucks, but happens lol

fading nest
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lucky me got a faulty unit in the largest switch cluster in the house with just 6 shelly devices in a single wall cutout

forest edge
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they may ask you to power cycle it if you haven't already

fading nest
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multiple times yeah ofc. almost burned out my blind motor

forest edge
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lol

fading nest
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it shat itself during calibration, suddenly the motor stopped moving and went BRR

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(which is what happens when both directions get power simultaneously I guess)

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so yeah, fun times

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1 out of 14 isnt too bad I suppose

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WAT

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I created an RMA and instantly got a full refund

forest edge
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yea shelly is a solid company

fading nest
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nah, local shop.

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oh

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well sure shelly would have probably done it too lol

fading nest
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thing is I bought 8 double packs so I got a full refund for a double pack even though just 1 unit was faulty 🤷 eh, can't complain

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The old "my greatest fear is that I die and my wife sells my <insert hobby> equipment for the price I told her I paid for it"

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Hi all, i’m just casually looking if someone would be interested in collaborating with me on making an integration, i have an idea, i can do the graphics part, know a little bit about programming but no clue on how to actually build something 🙈

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It brought friends!

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forest edge
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someone bought a lemon

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Sounds like a ground issue]

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or ECM

blissful zodiac
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actually

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OBDII issues

blissful zodiac
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It's a Ford, before you have to ask.

static schooner
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Found On Road Dead

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static schooner
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Sometimes they don't even get to the road

forest edge
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Fixed Or Repaired Daily

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I have no opinion on the current state of quality

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First On Race Day

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I have a concrete wall between my garage door keypad and the rest of my house... my zwave works great for everything but this door. Have not had success with repeaters. I do have WiFi/Ethernet in the garage though.

is there any sort of PoE or ethernet/Zwave bridge? My server running HA/zwave is in the house

robust flicker
tawny flume
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I use esp32 based controller for garage door thats rock solid, in zigbee there are SMLIGHT SLZB poe, unknow for zwave tech

pulsar bison
ocean oar
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Ol' mate tubes is making one

tawny flume
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If your garage door opener are old enought without security communication keypad you can do any alternative, I do same thing like athom garage door opener custom with more add on to replace bad myq system who stop api call from unoficial app

clever solstice
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has anyone managed to get google sheets integration working without using a domain? using the ip address instead?

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trying to pull data from a cell, but don't care to subscribe to nabu casa and don't want to expose home assistant to internet

solar zealot
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Why not just put a domain there?

blissful zodiac
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eek

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that's a bit painful to see

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Where can I find a link to actually download the image for HAOS? I read "getting started" and it mentions it several times, but the links just take me to a page that compares HAOS to other installs, or explain what it is - I see zero links, either on the front page, or the "Getting Started" documentation, to actually acquire the OS image

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@lunar sundial of course you have a fancy role here Hehe

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That's a step by step guide for flashing the image