the-water-cooler

[solar zealot]

but thats what they want these days

[prisma briar]

Oh, they want me to change plans to a shittier plan that costs more and has less perks for this deal too

Screw that

[primal laurel]

Have a €500 nothing phone 2. It's pretty great for the price

[solar zealot]

waiting for nothing to rug pull once again

[prisma briar]

I like my phone. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[forest edge]

damn. had to cancel that order.. seems even using it through USB I am still stuck setting it up through PPP in opensense so that device wouldn't change anything for me

[prisma briar]

Do you run opnsense bare metal?

[forest edge]

yes

[solar zealot]

sounds like you should complain on the forums

[forest edge]

its a freebsd thing i think

[solar zealot]

someone needs to pay for it

[primal laurel]

Rug pull?

[solar zealot]

its the same guys from op no?

[forest edge]

lol when looking up if opnsense had added any ability to use something other than PPP with my 4g card I run across my own post helping others set it up by PPP

[primal laurel]

No different company but same founder

[solar zealot]

usually thats where issues come from

[primal laurel]

From what?

[solar zealot]

people in leading positions

i hope this isnt the case, but only time will tell

[primal laurel]

Honestly don't have a clue what you're talking about 😅

[solar zealot]

mostly just about it becoming scummy and low quality over time

[primal laurel]

Nothing phone 1 was a good phone

Nothing phone 2 is even better

[solar zealot]

starting with the opx stuff gotten worse. beta testing software youd not receive on your device, various hw issues and software that never gotten fixed

no idea who they found to pay for their 12th gen rebrand

its pretty sad because it started pretty nice

[glacial knot]

even early OP phones had questionable QA. But their price made up for it. But once they started charging the same as others 🤷

[solar zealot]

what you dont want your camera to be unusable after recording two minutes?

its just 970 bucks!

[primal laurel]

Nothing phone is not one plus though

[solar zealot]

its pretty much the same concept agin

[primal laurel]

No it's not

[solar zealot]

they even re did the invite thing for initial orders

[primal laurel]

Carl pei left oneplus to make a different phone

[solar zealot]

it seems very ordinary

but i do not be into the tech lore

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze you ok? https://youtu.be/9YDm_0hNW-Y?si=ELQ9p6cLb4hz0hr1
that must have been a startling experience for you

[winged obsidian]

At least the humans handled it well. Gah. I’ve got to fly cross country a week from tomorrow.

[ocean oar]

Someone posted this in the NZ discord this morning
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-68756721
That looks like a barely 1 standard deviation from the mean landing where I live

https://youtu.be/m0jnahV81AU
This is what happens when you put your airport on a narrow-ass strip of land directly exposed to wind from the southern ocean

[dire spear]

50mph winds is just a regular day at torontos airport. ive seen some good sideways landings especially with smaller planes

[dusky plank]

You can make it more interesting when you put mountains around the airport

[clear ferry]

You mean like most Norwegian airports

[clear ferry]

This is a landing on the airport in my hometown from the "friendly" angle, let me see if I find one from the mountain side

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUcQEaOT-8Q

This is from the mountain side, but from the cockpit view
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-32VnggV0c

Ah there we go, this tries to land from the nice nice, but has to retry from the mountain side

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_O8e8obzeY

no actually he goes all the way round and does the nice side again

[last cedar]

@clear ferry going to call BS on these videos, clearly can't be any boeing planes

There are no bits falling off or missing in any videos

[solar zealot]

Don't worry, it's just the Instagram real_working_plane filter

[iron granite]

Maybe it got worse and the parts already fail to fall off

[solar zealot]

[solemn echo]

Home Assistant made the local news: https://au.news.yahoo.com/mans-elaborate-bin-night-trick-stuns-aussies-best-thing-ever-022852648.html

[solar zealot]

Nice

[last cedar]

@solar zealot @iron granite you are both probably right 😄

[solar zealot]

Oh no that means we will get murdered

[forest edge]

MO is giving us the ability to challenge where the fed government broadband expansion funding goes and this is what it says for my barn

so jumping on this

I want FTTB fiber to the barn

[clear ferry]

Lol how can they call that broadband

Fcc definition of broadband is apparently 25/3

[forest edge]

its marked as underserved which means it's not broadband

they call area/addresses as either served,underserved,unserved and the latter two only qualify for the funding

[clear ferry]

Apparently we have no definition for broadband, but the report says 96.7% of all houses have access to minimum 100Mbit

And 95.1% of all houses have access to minimum 1000Mbit

[forest edge]

they will do the same eventually but it be through wireless means for rural areas like my barn most likely

[clear ferry]

Apparently our national average speed in 2023 was 300Mbit

Up from 268Mbit in 2022

A can't even get less than 300/300 from my current provider

And since they are ripping all copper out of the ground DSL isn't much of an option anyway, and DOCSIS only lives for apartment buildings in city areas

[prisma briar]

I've had access to 1Gb+ speeds since 2017 so I imagine probably the majority of Americans do now

[forest edge]

just how many diffrent providers does norway have?

[clear ferry]

Yeah, I've had gigabit access since 2015, swedes have since 2005 I believe

[clear ferry]

15-20 or so for broadband

Depending if you count mobile broadband too

[forest edge]

those are mostly sub companies under a larger isp?

[prisma briar]

I'd consider my cell connection broadband where I live.

[clear ferry]

No

We don't have sub companies

[forest edge]

we do

I wouldn't even know our count

[prisma briar]

Do they all run their own wires or are the wires leased?

[clear ferry]

Wires are mostly from the two legacy providers, that had monopoly, but they are obliged by law to share their lines to anyone who wants to provide a service in an area they cover

[orchid rose]

Oh interesting, Norway is way different than us in the regard. We only have three ISPs

and I think it's the same ones for mobile as well

and cable TV

[prisma briar]

Cell phones are t-mobile, at&t, and verizon

[clear ferry]

If I count the regional ones I'm probably up to 50-70 @orchid rose a lot of power companies offer FTTH in their area

[orchid rose]

Why aren't they just bought up by the bigger players?

[clear ferry]

Some are

But usually they still own the lines, and then let the bigger player use them to deliver a central service

Because that's the shitty bit to do

[prisma briar]

I've heard of the top 7 and a couple of the rest

Oh, there's also u.s. mobile for cell service but they only serve like two states

Nevermind, they finally got bought up too

k

[primal laurel]

<@&330946878646517761> thanks 👍

[clear ferry]

[prisma briar]

No idea who that was.

[primal laurel]

Just a troll

Just joined

[prisma briar]

Yea, seemed pretty random.

Can't think of anybody I've pissed off who would swear at me in Croatian.

[clear ferry]

Croatoan

[prisma briar]

Ah, misread it. Translate says Croatian

[primal laurel]

Kroatien

Jk

[forest edge]

wtf just saw my phone blocked a spam sms.. first time I ever saw that

[prisma briar]

I've had that for years

It's great

[clear ferry]

Mine even blocks legitimate sms sometimes

then again 99% of sms I get is just confirmation codes or mfa

[prisma briar]

Mine blocks political texts and those stupid fake package delivery notices

[clear ferry]

Ah I just get package stuff in the respective apps

And we don't get political texts

[prisma briar]

The notices I get aren't real, they say I have a package held at the warehouse then link to some sketchy URL shortener

At one point I was getting like 10 of those a day

[forest edge]

i'm glad I don't normally get spam lol

[prisma briar]

And I get the political crap just because I'm registered to vote with my cell phone

[clear ferry]

Not an issue when we don't get package apps to begin with

Ah, we can use phone for identification when we vote

But not vote with it

[prisma briar]

I can't vote with my phone, I just meant the phone number I have on my registration card is my cell phone number so political spammers can get it.

I can use my phone as ID though, never tried for voting

They mail everyone ballots here and we mail them back

[forest edge]

why landlines are so handy

you give that number out for all that crap

[primal laurel]

Don't understand how they can get your phone number

[prisma briar]

It doesn't look like it is anymore but voter registration info here used to be public

[forest edge]

under certain circumstances like during an election year campaigns can get ahold of mailing lists etc

[prisma briar]

I remember looking up my voter registration info once and getting it with just my name

[forest edge]

I have to provide name, address

[prisma briar]

I was able to look it up now again but it needed my DOB and zip code too

If someone has that they probably have my phone number

[forest edge]

and dob, that too

but all that information is available in chunks by area for campaign reasons

I only ever put my landline number down for anything tho.. which is why spam on my cell is so rare

and with my home phone coming through spectrum that line gets filtered automatically by spectrum

[prisma briar]

Heh, just realized I'm tracking the partial eclipse on my hue motion sensor.

[primal laurel]

Messaging voters by their personal phone number breaks a few privacy laws here

[prisma briar]

Politicans made political campaigns exempt from things like do not call lists here

[clear ferry]

Not just a few, probably all of them

[clear ferry]

Here we can opt out for any advertising or sales by law and it's a national register

I did that like 20 years ago

[prisma briar]

They have that here too but politicans are exempt

And scammers don't care

[clear ferry]

so many law agencies, so little law

[forest edge]

what a weak eclipse for my area lol

[prisma briar]

Didn't get that strong here either

[forest edge]

they predicted 89% for us but sure didn't seem that way

[static schooner]

Nothing comes anywhere near me through at least 2100

[prisma briar]

I saw the full eclipse in 2017, it went right over my grandparents' house.

The partial eclipse is shit compared to it

[forest edge]

god forbid you cali's lose the sunlight during the daytime amirite? lol

I mostly just said that to stir shit with someone who isn't here

[static schooner]

We have a reputation to uphold

[forest edge]

really need to add in European in there otherwise it's just misinformation

[winged obsidian]

Seriously cutting into my tanning

[forest edge]

two tonned?

[winged obsidian]

Maybe a little overweight, but not that bad.

[ocean oar]

Landed in Vancouver shortly before that one. Got some photos with nice crescent-shaped shadows from light shining through a tree, but not close enough for a noticeable change in brightness

[orchid rose]

Has anyone had their Google Assistant suddenly switch voices?

[ocean oar]

Like to a different regional accent, or swapped genders, or?

[orchid rose]

Swapped genders. I can't even remember what I had set it on, but the other day it started talking in different voice

[ocean oar]

Haven't had that one, but I do occasionally get something that is "British/South African mash-up" rather than the usual not-quite-Australian

[orchid rose]

That's weird, I've never had that issue

[dire spear]

my pic

my friends pic

they win

ha

it was cloudy here though

[orchid rose]

The friend you shouldn't worry about?

[umbral cliff]

lol @ not quite Australian. Sums up a lazy approach to a NZ accent

[ocean oar]

The problem is I think it listens in Australian too

[umbral cliff]

Well it is the better accent of the two

[ocean oar]

I was trying to send my account manager from Dell a txt while driving last night, it made one of the more amazing mistakes.
Like I get it when it's a homophone, like when I confused the shit out of one of my teammates when I said "draft" and it wrote "draught".
But the problem was I couldn't hear that it had it wrong when I asked it to send "have you got 10 minutes to talk about renderwall" (I work in VFX, so that's our pretty much standard industry name for our compute farm), and it sent a message reading "have you got 10 minutes to talk about Brenda Wall"

[solar zealot]

[clear ferry]

I told my roborock to talk to me in australian

it feels so dirty

[primal laurel]

set it to dutch

https://tenor.com/view/dutch-van-der-linde-rdr2-gif-22768322

[clear ferry]

mmmm stroopwaffel

[ocean oar]

Just remember "cunt" is a term of affection, it's not as dirty of a word as in the rest of the English-speaking world

[forest edge]

does it make you feel all warm and gooey inside when you hear it? lol

[primal laurel]

https://youtu.be/6htbyY3rH1w?feature=shared

[forest edge]

@clear ferrydid you go hang out with conan? https://youtu.be/0oPDBb-JER4?si=-D-nLsmA7cnkMebg

[prisma briar]

Anyone know if Samsung has any built-in alternative to Airplay I could emulate for phones to cast to?

Closest I can think of is a chromecast but I don't have anything HDMI where I want this running

[clear ferry]

Wait what, you want to cast from a Samsung? To what? Or to a Samsung from what?

[prisma briar]

From a samsung phone to a receiver

BubbleUPNP will do it but I wanted something that'd work on friends' phones without installing apps

That'll just cast to an airplay receiver, of which there are emulators I can run

And Bluetooth wouldn't reach across my house I don't think

[glacial knot]

You'd have to setup some Miracast Receiver

But the protocol is open mostly in name
It's apparently so complex and full of edge cases, that there's really only Samsung and Google implementations.
Maybe LG? Though they might just use Google's

Hm, maybe it's usable now? https://github.com/albfan/miraclecast
I should try at some point

[clear ferry]

I've never gotten Miracast to work across 15 or so devices and 10 years

[glacial knot]

Steel toes and shins. Easy

[glacial knot]

It is decently easy with Chromecast

[prisma briar]

I've used Miracast a bunch. Never tried it to a chromecast, I have a few miracast dongles and my TVs all have it

I had a miracast receiver working on an RPi once but it wasn't great.

[clear ferry]

Does anyone know of any local / dockerized apps that can index all your local files based on content and make it searchable?

Might as well use my GPU for some fun

As in, read documents etc

Not just file names

[dusky plank]

https://github.com/paperless-ngx/paperless-ngx

[clear ferry]

Noice

Need to play with photoprism too

[prisma briar]

Blah, this stupid pi zero can't even output to two audio sinks at once without stuttering

[dusky plank]

I never saw any actual casting irl other than airplay, chrome thingies always just played streams by themselves but never have I seen a android user casual cast its home screen on a tv

[prisma briar]

You can cast your screen and audio to chromecasts with the google home app but they have their own protocol that's imo kind of crap. Miracast is better but afaik chromecasts don't do that.

The chromecast one was pretty low bitrate in my experience

[glacial knot]

I use paperless, primarily as index/ingress of any paperwork I scan

[glacial knot]

Photoprism is neat

[low harness]

I really like Immich.

Mostly because it makes it easy to import and index local libraries without having to move the files.

[glacial knot]

I setup photoprism when I started syncing the library to the PC, So it's my ingress and I like that it just consumes an input folder^^

[low harness]

I wanted to use paperless for all the mail you get, but then I realized I get like three pieces per year that I want to save… max

So I never bothered

[low harness]

Yeah. I already have 14 years of photos sorted…

[clever mortar]

I'm using Photoprism with an existing setup, none of those were moved

Given that too is decades of photos I'd have been rather annoyed 😄

[clever mortar]

I also use it for all the PDF receipts, invoices, etc - auto-consuming from my email

[glacial knot]

Pretty sure I got both of those recommendations from you^^

I need to configure the mail consumption
But when I last looked into it, it was slightly silly with how it marked them done

[clever mortar]

On the email side, or the Paperless side?

With Paperless all incoming stuff gets tagged so I can review them - it's pretty normal for it to mess up the "correspondent" on complex stuff

[glacial knot]

E-Mail

I at least think it was paperless
Wanted to use IMAP "read" and couldn't do some less invasive tracking

[proven valve]

Anyone known with Dimo? Or anyone driving a car with an app to unlock doors etc?

[solar zealot]

an app for car doors?

[proven valve]

Not only for car doors lol

I drive a Volkswagen and it shows me the status of my battery, if doors are locked etc.

But Dimo uses the API of the volkswagen app to put all the data in one place and it also gives options to lower insurance etc

But it can also use any of the other manufacturers , its pretty cool and you get paid in tokens for data

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/ew-no-michael-scott-steve-carrell-gif-14491970

[proven valve]

Well better get a cut from what manufacturers already sell 😄

[solar zealot]

More like getting consent for peanuts

If there is no integration or addon for it, stuff gonna be difficult

[proven valve]

What do you mean?

[solar zealot]

It's either you managing to do it with scripts / rest sensors or building an integration/ addon yourself

From recent history, certain manufacturers dislike non official app usage so stuff can break for the worse

[primal laurel]

nah. They are tricking you into selling more data

[proven valve]

Lime Temu

[gleaming crater]

https://twitter.com/Notchback60/status/1777397587970023473

Notchback (@Notchback60) on X

Twitter · Apr 8, 2024, 6:06 PM

[red rock]

LPT: replace twitter.com by twittpr.com or fxtwitter.com and you get better embedding in discord

[primal laurel]

Twitter still not dead?

[red rock]

nope

[primal laurel]

Unfortunate

[last cedar]

Is the car actually white?

[proven valve]

yea

[last cedar]

That would irritate me if the app didn't match the car 🤣

[proven valve]

I believe it reads that data from the VIN number

do you drive an EV?

[last cedar]

I have previously, had a Kia Ceed hybrid as a works car

Now I have a very environmentally friendly 2.5 liter Volvo, only 😄

[solar zealot]

What I guys don't drive F150s? How are u supposed to get your kids to and from school

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/krokopina-walking-crocodile-alligator-pet-gator-gif-15043355

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/florida-man-chandlers-wildlife-alligator-gator-rodeo-gif-22660176

[solar zealot]

Nice

[iron granite]

Florida Man's F150

[static schooner]

Must be AI?

[solar zealot]

Four croc drive

[orchid rose]

You can see the crocs leg go through the girls who's just pasted on top of the image. So not AI, just 100+ year old editing tricks

[last cedar]

No way, 100% real

[orchid rose]

She's an actual ghost

[solar zealot]

Could also be real

Considering they had coke in coke, riding on a gator doesn't seem too far fetched

[forest edge]

oof $190 for two cx410w's

crap better be worth it

[primal laurel]

Cybertruck. Also known as kid killer 9000 pro

[forest edge]

where did the kid killer come from?

wow spacebar acting up today i see

holy crap it just did not want to work

[buoyant laurel]

Man, I keep having to fend off the urge to purchase something like a Lenovo Thinclient that I could mount on my network rack and use to run my Ubiquiti controller and Pi-hole

[forest edge]

why not a pi?

[glacial knot]

Friends don't let friends use pis

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/american-pie-shocked-oh-no-pie-pan-gif-14481475

[buoyant laurel]

All the Pi's I have are probably about 10 years old. Except for my HA Yellow

[forest edge]

model b could probably handle pi-hole

[buoyant laurel]

I'll have to see if I can find what models I have. I know I had/have an OG somewhere

[forest edge]

a 3b or 3b+ would handle both easily enough

[buoyant laurel]

I was using one of them before to run my ZWave and Zigbee servers in my last house and it had serious issues.

Constantly disconnecting

[forest edge]

in fact I think there are scripts out there for setting up both ubiquiti and pi-hole in one click on a rpi

[buoyant laurel]

I do have an old laptop I might flash linux on and use. The one I'm currently using for my ubiquiti controller has a dead battery so if the power cuts it immediately turns off, and it's so borked that it doesn't seem to reboot properly so I have to go manually do it every time which is a pain.

[primal laurel]

you still on that bs?

[glacial knot]

You still think it's on hardware? 😮

[primal laurel]

wut

[glacial knot]

So you remain oblivious

[red rock]

Yes

Fight me

[primal laurel]

you seem to have a lot of troiuble explaining what you mean

[glacial knot]

Not really. I just gave up on you.

[forest edge]

now now boys.. pi's for everyone

[primal laurel]

idiot

[glacial knot]

I see, you brought up your entire intellect

[primal laurel]

smoothbrained

[red rock]

Can we not?

[primal laurel]

fuck off joost

[forest edge]

such hostility in this channel anymore.. just dosen't feel like a safe space for people anymore

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/keanu-reeves-eexcellent-party-nudes-gif-9315456

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/pp_rD2RJke4?si=1BV9j4DZR7A9Tkj_

[forest edge]

i just had my first 5v wall wart go bad

[iron granite]

Breaking Bad?

[forest edge]

all this pi talk reminded me i should update my model b acting a print server.. can certianly see that speed difference lol

[prisma briar]

I tried setting up a Pi Zero to stream to a bluetooth speaker and out of HDMI at the same time, it'll do either or but can't handle both sinks at once.

Also Logitech Media Server was disappointing.

[gleaming crater]

I have multi out audio PIs, but Snapcast is my last mile, they have run a target per audio device

Tho trying to run BT on a pi zero can be a pain because the wifi and bt are fighting

[prisma briar]

I was just running out of CPU. Pulse and pipewire both eat a ton (relatively) when doing combined sinks.

[gleaming crater]

Were you trying to play to both at the same time in sync?

[gleaming crater]

Also isn't alsa less overhead for that kinda thing?

[prisma briar]

I don't know how to split one stream to two devices with alsa, never tried.

But I don't believe alsa has any bluetooth support

At least not reasonable bluetooth support

[gleaming crater]

That's why I went snapcast

I can spin up multiple client services for each audio device

And it has all the settings for delay per device

[prisma briar]

I can throw more pis at it, my source is pcm getting dumped out over udp multicast

But apparently all I have left are non-wireless Zeros

[gleaming crater]

What audio service are you using?

Snapcast was still TCP unicast last I saw

[prisma briar]

https://github.com/duncanthrax/scream

[gleaming crater]

You can do the same thing in snapcast land with this https://github.com/stijnvdb88/Snap.Net

[prisma briar]

Scream is about as basic as it gets. I was going to set up something to tie them into HA, probably a python mqtt thing to allow setting the volume and starting/stopping scream

[gleaming crater]

Lol there is already a full snapcast integration for HA, I have my nodes fade up/down with the lights automatically

It's pretty easy to change source on a device with a service call, I bump my bedroom player between music and a networked sleep machine feed

[prisma briar]

I have a windows vm set up running amazon music dumping it out with scream

[gleaming crater]

How well does it stay in sync between nodes?

[prisma briar]

I tried logitech media server on it but I kept getting pops in the audio when I had three or more destinations synced

[gleaming crater]

That's because LMS is a single-threaded perl app lol

I've yet to find a better last mile over snapcast so far, it just works

[prisma briar]

Alright so far but I only have two on it now. The Windows and Linux clients don't sync up due to different buffer sizes.

But it's multicast so the same packet is going to all the destinations at the same time

[gleaming crater]

You get to configure a server buffer with snapcast and configure each client +/- however many ms you want from server for playback

[prisma briar]

The scream receiver has options for configuring the buffer

It was 50ms by default

Which I assume means all clients are within 50ms of eachother at worst

[gleaming crater]

I think that's time from packet to playback?

[prisma briar]

It keeps 50ms of audio buffer for dejittering

But the packets are all multicast udp so the only delay should be wireless retransmissions at worst

And if audio is missed scream just drops it, it doesn't try to play every frame

[gleaming crater]

Yeah snapcast skips frames that arrive after play time

I'm running 64ms with tcp unicast too

and like 10 nodes lol

[prisma briar]

I think I'm going to end up with 6 when I'm done

My shower, bedroom, livingroom, office, backyard, and garage

[gleaming crater]

As long as you can get them all in sync, my zones overlap enough I can't tolerate mismatched playback

[prisma briar]

I think I can get it working. I might be stuck with pulse for doing latency adjustments though.

One of my stereos was adding like .5s

I really hate dealing with pulse's security and per-user daemons though, makes making a systemd service to run an audio app way too tricky.

[glacial knot]

I can't wait for pipewire to be more widespread

I used to run the pulse server on a different box than I did my main computing on. It was a weird setup

[gleaming crater]

That’s the other reason I prefer alsa, it’s not mad you want to run a service

[ocean oar]

Lol, pining for mpd are we?

Used to love that app back in the day

[gleaming crater]

I messed with mpd/mopidy but they are kinda meh

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze OH NO! I need to get out there quick to do my xmas shopping before it's too late! https://youtu.be/kly9loq4xe0?si=0NZ4NJgCfd5jOh7k

[prisma briar]

I never tried mpd, if I had a local library I'd be more interested in these solutions but it's been a decade since I ripped a CD at this point.

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/gene-vincent-magnetophon-vintage-music-old-time-rock-and-roll-reel-to-reel-tape-recorder-gif-19479739

[prisma briar]

Heh, closest to a reel to reel I've used is a cassette.

[forest edge]

there will likely be at least some new cars that have a cd player in it for the next 30+ years simply because there hasn't been another media invented and one that will likely ever replace usb and require a special player

[prisma briar]

Yea, the format wars are dead. I think we might see one more bluray edition but I imagine it'll be unchallenged.

Another thing us millennials killed

[solar zealot]

vvc already won?

[ocean oar]

Heh, likewise. I pretty much had to re-learn how to rip CDs, because likewise I think about 2006 would have been the last time I did it. My partner signed up for something and they mailed a CD. Like who does that?

Even had to go out, and buy the most twenty-dollar-est USB DVD drive that my local computer store had, because no computer we own still had an optical drive

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/aol-internet-dialing-connecting-gif-4039466

[prisma briar]

I have far more CD drives than actual CDs at this point

Mostly because of old video game systems

And because I never had a large collection of CDs, I just knew somebody who worked at a radio station and went and ripped a bunch of discs there.

[glacial knot]

Alsa just gets mad when you want to run more than one source per sink

[dusky plank]

apt remove --purge pulseaudio
any day for me

[glacial knot]

pacman -S pipewire-pulse you mean?

[dusky plank]

No i mean apt

[glacial knot]

that's not how you spell apk though

[dusky plank]

Because i want apt and not apk

[glacial knot]

but then you are stuck with apt D:

[dusky plank]

And i like it that way

[red rock]

TOMORROW FALLOUT RELEASE

@iron granite

[red rock]

https://twittpr.com/dbrand/status/1777823124479734097

[solar zealot]

nasty

[last cedar]

Wtf?

I went to Mcdonalds, most people were nice, but they threw me out

[primal laurel]

I think next time you should just take a seat like everyone else. Nobody will notice

[last cedar]

I will try this, thanks

[solar zealot]

Naww

[iron granite]

Maybe the old manager does home office?

[glacial knot]

but will there be a backfill? 🤔

[primal laurel]

been nice knowning you all

[clever mortar]

Time to run up a massive CC bill then

[glacial knot]

What's a numerologist?

I scientist of the numbers?

[primal laurel]

Numerology (known before the 20th century as arithmancy) is the belief in an occult, divine or mystical relationship between a number and one or more coinciding events. It is also the study of the numerical value, via an alphanumeric system, of the letters in words and names. When numerology is applied to a person's name, it is a form of onomancy. It is often associated with astrology and other divinatory arts.[2]

[static schooner]

Aka 'nonsense'

[primal laurel]

presented to you by fox 'news'

[solar zealot]

ipads so good, they completely discharge when turned off

stuff was better in the ol days

[gleaming crater]

Fox news is useful for identifying idiots tho

It's like the intellectual equivalent of ripping a massive fart in the elevator

[primal laurel]

That's a nice way to word it

[static schooner]

Spam gets even dumber;

Hey
Thank you for taking the time to read Bill1390296418, a document that contains valuable information that you may find useful at a later time in your life.

School children will read about Bill1390396418 in the history books

[forest edge]

<insert campaign push here>

[static schooner]

Chicken soup for the spammer's soul

[forest edge]

why does there always have to be a wifi node with the name Skynet

no matter where i go and look a Skynet pops up in the list

[orchid rose]

So the robots can always be connected

[last cedar]

Wait, you haven't already done this?!

[last cedar]

Moses 10 commandments still has battery power

[primal laurel]

does it have solar panels?

[solar zealot]

i may need some advice

i did send some package with dhl, which couldnt be delivered and they handed me some coupon with which i need to go to an actual store to get another shipment

can i simply revoke my payment to this?

[prisma briar]

If they didn't deliver what you paid for and are refusing a real refund, probably.

idk if it'd be worth it though

If I paid hundreds for shipping I would

[last cedar]

You can ask @clear ferry they are about the same age

[solar zealot]

i mean its "just 6 bucks"

but i kinda cant afford to spend that again

[red rock]

https://www.mturk.com/

Someone need some indian people AI?

[prisma briar]

I wonder if thousands of people entering back into the market from their failed grocery store concept had any impact on mechanical turk's rates.

[primal laurel]

lmao, that's a nice way to market slave labour. No shame

at my uni they hire students to do this haha

[prisma briar]

They've been doing Mechanical Turk for years now

[red rock]

never heard of it

[prisma briar]

I looked into it once but it didn't really pay reasonably for my part of the world.

[red rock]

I have a business proposal

Hire MTurk collectively

and then have a lot of students offload this work to mturk

[primal laurel]

this is already happening lol, trust me

[red rock]

LOL

[primal laurel]

yeah... but not me haha

there must be people who just run a business like that. Sell expensive labour, buy cheap labour

[prisma briar]

human arbitrage

[forest edge]

people can talk a lot of shit about wyze but that V3 was really really good at a lot of things for it's price point

comparing it against all my other cameras from 4mp up to 8 that v3 fov was wider, and it's low light abilities were just awesome

just wish it's wifi signal wasn't so shit and they baked a decent rtsp local stream into it

@prisma briarin regards to the convo the other day https://youtu.be/bioiu-XAmUE?si=JX-H3NJv2IPSb5zx

[orchid rose]

vinyls never really went away. CDs though...

[forest edge]

video made it sound like the amount of newer songs being released on vinyles is just increasing

[solar zealot]

who even would buy those

[forest edge]

you in 20 years

[solar zealot]

as if i could afford to own something

[orchid rose]

even newer songs have been released on vinyl for a long while

[blazing musk]

look at the music section in Target. They have a shelf of new release vinyl and maybe a couple of re-releases.

Vinyl's comeback is a combination of hipsterism and the loudness wars ruining the advantage digital media has over vinyl

16 bits of resolution doesn't mean much when you're mostly using the top 8 bits...

[red rock]

I have a target nearby

[orchid rose]

mom:

[ocean oar]

Some people also like the physical act of playing records. Yes it's vastly inconvenient having to get up every 20 minutes to change/flip the damn thing, but it's a ritual more than anything

I also like to annoy the purists by pointing out to them that my turntable is connected into a Sonos Connect, so the very first thing it encounters is an analogue to digital converter

But hey, I can have it playing in every room of the house

[orchid rose]

Nothing wrong with enjoying that and I probably would too. I just dislike the bs that it's somehow higher quality

[tidal bronze]

@orchid rose since you like pasta. 😆

[orchid rose]

I kinda hate it

[tidal bronze]

So you don't like to walkabout every 30 minutes?

[ocean oar]

Honestly, once an ~hour to change a CD I wouldn't remotely care. But I have a number of vinyl albums that only have 3 songs (13-16 minutes) per side

Having to get up THREE TIMES to listen to one album in its entirety does get a little tedious

[tidal bronze]

I hear you. I mainly play 12" remixes. So it's every 5 minutes lol

[ocean oar]

Ha

[tidal bronze]

I used to be all about analog but it's too much work and takes space.

[orchid rose]

What did you "settle" on?

[tired quarry]

this is so off topic

but do anyone know what can I get to protect my little nephew from hitting in the edges of the pool?

I was thinking on something to cover the edges but dont know what

[dire spear]

that is not pasta. it is a punishable offense

[tidal bronze]

Are you a Pappardelle kinda dude?

[winged obsidian]

Accenture springs to mind

[blazing musk]

I have a pi zero w streaming mine

Did you hear about the scandal of that one "all analog process" vinyl mastering studio getting found out there was a digital step? 🤣

https://archive.is/YGUvy

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/social-distancing-disc-distance-yourself-gif-16655323

But make sure it floats

[glacial knot]

Whatever floats your goat

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/floating-goat-goats-up-movie-flying-goat-hovering-goat-gif-25926801

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-out-ok-fine-good-gif-12768423

@red rock

[static schooner]

That looks like a meme about Covid social distancing?

[solar zealot]

No he is just being used as measurement reference for american sized chairs

[red rock]

I'll be watching tomorrow with my brother

[iron granite]

I'm going to watch it on Sunday - my day off this week.

[wet cairn]

Anyone here in the US and bought an AirGradient before?
I'm just confused about the shipping process. Fastship says it was delivered yesterday, but it never left Thailand.
Also FastShip says they delivered it to FastShip.
I'm wondering if there was a mistake or this is just poor wording/mistranslation. Is this what your experience was like?

[orchid rose]

That was very fast indeed

I would guess it's just poor wording like you said

[wet cairn]

Right. I find it hard to believe that they could ship it from Thailand to the US in 25 hours

[twilit flicker]

Hey there, Im new, I already have HA setup before, recently considering adding Zigbee based end devices 🙂 Excited to explore

[orchid rose]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-hole-alice-in-wonderland-fall-roll-gif-9377042879026695800

This gif is so busted wtf...

[red rock]

Let me pm you

[leaden ice]

Home Assistant from 1983? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra9ov-ud_Q0

[low harness]

I like that the inventor commented.

[orchid rose]

Oh I didn't even notice that. And some other employee too, that's cool, just like the concept itself

Also didn't know the VSauce2 guy had another channel

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/popular-science-hires-vsauce2-creative-team-to-relaunch-its-youtube-channel-302082081.html

I see

[leaden ice]

me neither 😛

[tacit plover]

Achim from AirGradient here. Our forwarder currently has technical issues with some of the tracking links. I'm in touch with them. In the meantime please reach out to me via our website support form if you need an update on the shipment.

[leaden ice]

I thought it was an april's fool joke

[ocean oar]

So I haven't caught the possum yet, but my doorbell camera made a new friend last night.
(warning: big-ass insect, if you don't like those, don't click)

[forest edge]

booty call

[primal laurel]

Just a small fren

[ocean oar]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemideina_crassidens

[last cedar]

@forest edge I have something I need to discuss

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/station19-maya-bishop-i-want-to-declare-a-truce-truce-deal-gif-26932455

[solar zealot]

Why is LA a flipped pig on its back

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/f1-gp-las-vegas-sphere-gif-9411978934233452776

[gleaming crater]

Where race

I'm not getting nearly enough F1

[orchid rose]

It's a Moomin and what happened to it in Vegas...

[static schooner]

not sure how I feel about the independent countries of Las Vegas and Miami

[red rock]

F1 spoiled the fun yet to come

[iron granite]

Vive la revolución!

[static schooner]

I feel silly asking where the United States is in light of these two new world powers of F1

[fast lotus]

trying something new

[fathom sparrow]

Rule 6

Spam will not be tolerated, including but not limited to: self-promotion, flooding, textwalls (longer than 15 lines - use Hastebin or similar³) and unapproved bots.

[last cedar]

Related to the earlier f1 discussion...

[primal laurel]

sigmalonso still better than almost all of the grid

[last cedar]

@primal laurel I do not like his personality, but I cannot deny his skill.

Thinking around 2007 Mclaren and Ferrari esponage, 2008 Crashgate, etc lots of drama around him.

Not that the others have been 100% drama free

Haha

[primal laurel]

Yeah I can see that

[orchid rose]

Burned most of the bridges to any top teams too. He also cheated in the virtual racing during Covid lmao

[last cedar]

This is also funny but relevant

I wonder how long Hamilton will be at Ferrari

[orchid rose]

They said "multi-year deal"

And at this point Sauber might be the better option over Mercedes. RB clearly doesn't want to have any competition for Max since that could destroy the brand

[forest edge]

terms of surrender?

the US don't make bargain with filament!

[ocean oar]

Honestly I thought this was going to be one of those joke pictures where everything is actually the silhouette of two people doin' it. Actually went away slightly disappointed it was actually the real F1 tracks

[solar zealot]

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/max-verstappen-maxverstappen-max33-keeppushing-gif-14900858

[frosty gazelle]

I for one welcome our new insect overlords.

[last cedar]

I am inclined to agree with you about Mercedes tbh

[dusky plank]

displaylink is a weird standard

[orchid rose]

It's a bit harsh since they have the budget to fix it and they are still doing "okay", but it looks a lot like they are going the McLaren route. And Sauber on the other hand is a meme itself with their "unorthodox" strategies and half a minute pitstops, but might get somewhere with the right leadership and money

[ocean oar]

Heh, I wonder if I still have the video from when one of the security cameras at work got ants inside it. They look pretty freaking giant when they're wandering around on the inside of the camera's dome

[forest edge]

damn oj simpson died

https://tenor.com/view/afro-the-naked-gun-1970s-70s-disco-gif-6403564674703492338

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge

Thinking of you.

[ocean oar]

https://www.theonion.com/o-j-simpson-allowed-to-remain-living-after-coffin-does-1851403804

[forest edge]

wtf is that lol

[tidal bronze]

5lbs each king crabs

[forest edge]

you eat that much crab in one go?

[tidal bronze]

That's somewhat enough when it comes to shell fish. Lol.

[forest edge]

you never heard of sides?

[tidal bronze]

Nopes.

Unless it's a side of tiger shrimp

[forest edge]

you are not normal you know that right? lol

[ocean oar]

Is this one of those situations where you ask "if you weigh 99lb and you eat 1lb of crab, are you 1% crab?"

How many percent crab do we think @tidal bronze is after dinner?

[static schooner]

I'm pretty sure I was more than 1% burrito after the last one I ate

[forest edge]

ugh gonna have to replace this side of barn camera yet again

it's working it's way to lookin like this which is what the last one did

something about being on the east side and the rising sun. kills these cameras

[tidal bronze]

When it comes to crustaceans there is no measuring involved 😋

[ocean oar]

So eat until you hate yourself? Gotcha

[tidal bronze]

Or throw me out. Which happens most of the time I am at a seafood buffet

[forest edge]

his mom was a mermaid and dad a pelican

[tidal bronze]

Kicker, I hate fish. 🤣

[static schooner]

I've literally seen pictures of you cooking large amounts of fish

and that you have a separate kitchen for fish

are you some self-loathing fish loather?

[forest edge]

i never cared for fish either. I can eat some but not my first pick

[tidal bronze]

If I cook I do eat Branzino and marithia (greek meza) that's about it. Ans yes no cooking fish inside the house.

[static schooner]

was about say, exhibit A: #the-water-cooler message

Exhibit B: #the-water-cooler message

[tidal bronze]

Sushi is not fish

[orchid rose]

Raw and rusted

[static schooner]

man, I sure hope it is

[forest edge]

anisakiasis wrapped in a fleshy shell?

[tidal bronze]

All done, now gotta wait for wife 🙄

[forest edge]

I wouldn't really call worms fish either so I agree with you on that point

[static schooner]

Exhibit C comin' right atcha: #the-water-cooler message

more Branzino, it seems

[tidal bronze]

Branzino all day. As long as there's no fish smell

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/virginia-virginiayoutubeuse-pince-smells-smelly-gif-16443643

[orchid rose]

"fish smell" comes usually when it's a bit old

[static schooner]

Poor branzino, thinking they were safe because they didn't smell like fish

[forest edge]

or in proper hygiene

[static schooner]

but generally, I agree that a lot of fresh fish doesn't really smell like anything

[tidal bronze]

I started eating Branzino few years ago. Not much experience with with whole fish. I will stick to my shrimp lobster and crabs

[forest edge]

don't forget the 🐙

[tidal bronze]

Talking about hygiene, they should ban karaoke at nail spas.

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/clam-oyster-wink-eye-gif-18785727

clams are so gross

[tidal bronze]

Get me 2 dozens anytime

[forest edge]

im sure, you have no taste

[orchid rose]

Eating magnificient and magical creatures like octopi feels wrong

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/resident-alien-bullshit-gif-15711229253732088288

[tidal bronze]

Some good Rhode Island stuff last night.

[forest edge]

i would rather eat the napkin or table

[tidal bronze]

They are sooooo good.

[forest edge]

its how cannibalism got started

[tidal bronze]

Baby Octopus and seahorse 😋

[static schooner]

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12888462/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

[orchid rose]

I was about to say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRPCj9y3848

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge you do know that there's types of food to eat, other than collard greens and mashed potato, right?

[forest edge]

not if you want to live to be 100

[tidal bronze]

Live now

[forest edge]

you went to kansas and ate out at a fast food joint.. wouldn't expect you to know lol

[prisma briar]

So weird to me that KC is considered a foodie city because they coat obnoxious cuts of meat in sugar paste.

[forest edge]

what

[prisma briar]

what

[forest edge]

you talking about our greek and turkey places?

[ocean spear]

As in Kansas City?

[forest edge]

yes by KC is he meant Kansas City

[static schooner]

The incredulity of calling Kansas City a foodie city is understandable, though

[forest edge]

there is life beyond seafood

[wintry sun]

Anyone here good at setting up a Nih Core?

[forest edge]

i've done it in the game Rust lol

[ocean spear]

Honestly round here we just say we’re famous for bbq

[forest edge]

careful with words like round in this channel lol

[prisma briar]

Yea, obnoxious cuts of meat in sugar paste

[dusky plank]

Wat is going on here

*round here?

[dire spear]

round here? my house is gonna fall down

[dusky plank]

what is that visualization

looks pretty ugly

[dire spear]

the government

they gots web skillz

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/keep-goin-moose-keep-moosin-mikey-gif-22044956

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/-n-pzXefQW8?si=EKDRXBvIblrdop3S

casket on wheels

[ocean spear]

I’m not saying I agree lol

[livid granite]

domestic optimizers before home assistant

[forest edge]

once you see it it's hard to unsee and go back to it's intended illusion
https://youtube.com/shorts/yqZ_1fXfx5w?si=p5EahrPQcxy80-uG

[young sigil]

Ah it's just a variant of the old 3D dragon illusion, https://youtu.be/2K39Q9zvQoE?si=iVlsQcm3OCKXFBXy

[teal pebble]

Damn, HACS is getting so much attention from core developers these past weeks. I wonder what's going on 😂

[primal laurel]

is it? where?

[teal pebble]

Just saw a lot of GitHub activity: Franck, Erik, Martin, Paulus...

[iron granite]

There were some non-threadsafe operations in some popular integrations, which might lead to crashes since the recent performance increases in HA.

Like Alarmo, for example

[primal laurel]

Oops

[iron granite]

So it was a nice move, that some core devs gave some advice to fix those issues.

Some other activity might also be unrelated to that 😆

[whole lagoon]

Hi All,

I hope you're well. I'm from the University of Portsmouth, here in the UK.

I am currently writing my university dissertation on 'Users Attitudes and Perceptions Towards IoT Privacy' and with this I am collecting primary research in the form of a questionnaire. I would greatly appreciate anyone's participation.

https://forms.gle/tx9W1FNWCKhPvyNf7 (10 mins) approved by @lone dagger via email

Please let me know if you have any follow up questions/concerns. 🙂

[primal laurel]

Just a general bit of feedback, I think the questions are too open ended. They are very hard to answer. But perhaps that was on purpose

[whole lagoon]

Hi Stefan, thank you for your message. The questionnaire follows an existing study and was intentionally designed like this to compare the previous dataset.

However, I would be very open to specifics as I can include this in the conclusions I draw on the questionnaires design.

[primal laurel]

I think you should have given some examples or a definition of what you would consider an IoT device. Or even better, let someone pick a few device types and answer specific questions about those. For example the question 'How do your IoT devices work and how do you use them in your daily life?', I have no idea how to answer that. I have dozens of devices, and how I use them depends on what its function is. And then 'What data do your devices collect?', do you mean usage data? Or sensor data? Do you want me to list all data sources from all devices I have? 'How would you feel if someone else knew about this data?', well that depends entirely on which data we're talking about. Would I care about someone knowing what temperature my attic is? Probably not a lot. But camera images? Probably would care a lot more

[prisma briar]

Yea, no offense but this survey seems to have been written by somebody largely unfamiliar with IoT, especially Home Assistant.

The questions make sense when you're asking about a single device, like a thermostat or camera, but 'IoT' can be literally any device humans have ever made that's been computerized and made remotely controllable.

How do your IoT devices work

I think this one is either going to get you 'I don't know' or 'That's too long to explain in a text field, go read the docs'

[ocean oar]

Or "how deep of an explanation would you like about the functioning of class A vs class C LoRa devices" 🤪

[solar zealot]

The bee movie script but it's unnecessary tech lore

[blazing musk]

https://youtu.be/EGSyw2dHhrc?si=8jGtnyeCx_r0cT2U

[livid granite]

That is the dream. I need more buttons with consequential automations at my place.

[ocean oar]

After some of his earlier food automations, the toaster / jam cannon combination is something I'd 100% expect to see Colin Furze making

[whole lagoon]

Thank you for your feedback @primal laurel and @prisma briar, it is much appreciated. The questions asked have now been made clearer in the Participant Information Sheet for future participants.

[red rock]

@iron granite

I LOVE IT

I'm at episode 7 now

[primal laurel]

its good right? Boutta start it too

[iron granite]

I'm just watching the first episode

https://youtu.be/ctuZ54MwVZU

[red rock]

It's amazing

[iron granite]

Can we build a Power Armor? And can we integrate it in HA?

https://tenor.com/view/fallout4-power-armor-video-game-looking-gif-17919040

[primal laurel]

Yes. Powered by Tuya™

[iron granite]

What a dilemma

[ocean spear]

oh god no

[primal laurel]

You will use tuya and you will like it

[red rock]

Omg i just watched all of it

I love it

Also

[ocean spear]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[red rock]

||i can see why Amazon wanted to buy iRobot||

^ funny joke with not a lot of spoiler that makes a bit of sense in the end

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/FmvZpHVWkKg?si=w1nyKg4Qyq6jqE4P

must be a camera that reads the seat number when they place the ticket on the nail on the train

[last cedar]

You are wrong, it is

https://tenor.com/view/magical-magic-gif-13543499

[forest edge]

https://shop.dionneong.com/cdn/shop/products/Group3copy3_c83d7d1e-6c43-4a38-866c-41ecc12e8e8c.jpg?v=1627246941

[solar zealot]

Hm it looks like that Shelly plugs dislike measuring dishwashers

[forest edge]

plugs? as in the plug in a wall socket?

[last cedar]

I LOVE it

[solar zealot]

Yes

[forest edge]

this one of those portable dishwashers?

[last cedar]

Dislike how?

[solar zealot]

It stopped measuring

Or well, it dropped off the wifi

Theoretically it should be completely in spec operations with no switching at all

[last cedar]

Have you tried lifting it up again?

[solar zealot]

Well my non raccoon body doesn't fit where the plug is

[last cedar]

At least it didn't set on fire, that also seems like a popular outcome for their sockets iirc

[solar zealot]

Lol hehe

[last cedar]

Very frustrating tbh, this is the dark side of home automation

[solar zealot]

I might need to put in the em mini thing, but I kinda don't want to crawl in garbage bin space

[last cedar]

You had me at garbage

What do I need to do?

[solar zealot]

[last cedar]

I think I am going to end up with one or two of those 6 channel esp boards and using cts

We redid the electric so everything that I would want to know the usage of (or automate things based on what it is doing) has its own fuse

But I would like a socket for the cooker hood, to put the ventillation system into overpressure mode

Or a shelly mini type thing

[solar zealot]

I may need to pick up a couple plugs and sockets and make my own measurement ones with the em mini stuff

Don't need the switching at all

[dusky plank]

some shelly plugs have real bad wifi rx/tx

had to replace 2 of them in specific locations, the replacements worked fine and the bad ones also did fine in other places

[forest edge]

sounds more like a fluke situation.. sometimes lemons are created

[last cedar]

Any that are known to be good?

I guess it doesn't even have to be wifi

[dusky plank]

Just one hint of what the culprit could be

[forest edge]

could be something in the path of the signal too. ran into some weird objects that made great wifi blockers that was just sitting on a self a few times

apparently today it will be my o key

would love to know the reason behind this keyboard

[primal laurel]

It sometimes happens that you lose signal strength due to reflections at specific locations in a room. For example I have this location in the attic under a sloped roof which basically has no WiFi but the rest of the room does fine

[solar zealot]

Oh lmao I know what happend

[dusky plank]

Please, tell me more

I‘d love to learn how wifi works

[solar zealot]

We had a short and tried to figure out where, likely trying to power the circuit multiple times did reset the plugs

Weird that it didn't happen to all of them just two

would have been nice if ha would have told me they be offline of over a week

[forest edge]

using the hook or mqtt?

[solar zealot]

the official integration

[forest edge]

ah

[solar zealot]

it always annoys me with "couldnt update" 79813 times a day so i end up just ignoring whatever it says

well this time it wouldnt have been wrong

[forest edge]

I had switched to just using mqtt awhile back when the integration was still somewhat new and having issues.. never went back

[solar zealot]

it still has a couple issues

mostly keeping track of energy consumption

well that may be more caused by the plug reporting it wrong but still that could be fixed

[forest edge]

most of my shellys are the pucks. only have 1 plug in the barn. so far it seems to work fine

[balmy bough]

i can honestly say i love the ESPhome add-on 🙂 i installed a Emporia Vue2 loaded with ESPhome, and HA picked it right up! the only hard part was working inside my workshop power panel, but i got it done and everything works perfectly 🙂

[balmy bough]

actually, the hardest part was finding the energy price from my supplier. ffinally found it here: https://www.maine.gov/mpuc/regulated-utilities/electricity/standard-offer-rates/cmp

[primal laurel]

There is no support here, try #general-archived

[red rock]

Oh hey, long time no see

[balmy bough]

yeah, been a while

been busy. i admin 2 forums, moderate 1, and am a member of three others, plus the usual haunts on discord. i kept forgetting to check in here 🙂

[primal laurel]

Check #zigbee-archived

[forest edge]

looks like xiaomi is ready for you to have to buy a new car every 2 years https://youtu.be/kYkgXkoEBzg?si=Ip1RNz-J7OKzrjVG

[static schooner]

The DriveMi

[glacial knot]

that looks very rendered. i'd love to see Mi shit on Tesla with an actual high automation factory though

[forest edge]

I don't think anyone really wants xiaomi taking over a car market lol

[umbral cliff]

The other chinese brands will take over instead

[forest edge]

least the others didn't start by picturing wheels on cell phones

[prisma briar]

Anyone know a good place to ask ffmpeg questions/is good at ffmpeg?

I'm streaming two PCM streams from pipes, mixing them, and sending them back out another pipe. When one of the pipes is silent I'm having to pad it with dummy frames, or ffmpeg blocks waiting on it. To my understanding aresample should add dummy frames of just silence, but it's not for me.

My ffmpeg command is
['ffmpeg',
'-use_wallclock_as_timestamps', 'true', '-f', 's24le', '-ac', '2', '-ar', '48000', '-i', '/tmp/ffmpeg-fifo-1',
'-use_wallclock_as_timestamps', 'true', '-f', 's24le', '-ac', '2', '-ar', '48000', '-i', '/tmp/ffmpeg-fifo-2',
'-filter_complex', '[0]aresample=async=1[a0],[1]aresample=async=1[a1],[a0][a1]amix', '-y',
'-f', 's24le', '-ac', '2', '-ar', '48000', '/tmp/ffmpeg-fifo-in']

[forest edge]

stack overflow

hell your answer may already even be there

[ocean oar]

I could probably concoct something, but would have to think about it

I had to do something similar for video, when I was combining two variable frame rate videos together and needed them in wall clock sync

[prisma briar]

These are raw pcm streams from two different computers I'm taking in over udp with python and putting into a pipe for ffmpeg

Whenever one gets 12 packets ahead of the other I repeat the last packet the lagging interface got 12 times to catch it back up

For reasons I'm unsure of the packet I replay has to be replayed a multiple of 3 times, even though each packet holds 24 stereo frames

Hacky test code https://pastebin.com/3GKssrNi

This listens on UDP for 48KHz 24bit stereo PCM frames being sent at it with a currently ignored 5 byte header, filters them into pipes based on source IP, mixes them with ffmpeg, then slaps on a hard-coded header and forwards the mixed stream onto a receiver.

Specifically it's a multi-source mixer for Scream https://github.com/duncanthrax/scream

If the streams quit sending ffmpeg just hangs so I kill it in that case and reopen it when I detect data again, heh. That also means I always have at least one source to sync the rest to.

[forest edge]

the ev buyer remorse is getting kind of funny now that more and more people are in the battery replacement phase

[forest edge]

@last cedar get out of my back yard!

[last cedar]

Just testing the filament catchment tech, seems very primative

[forest edge]

you know frigate has no filament object so I can't even detect those bastards in my back yard

I just happened to look up and see the bugger

[iron granite]

So you have your eyes on Michelle?

[forest edge]

chonky means more filament

[umbral cliff]

Isn't that the same principle Tesla did? Sure feels like it if you sit in a model 3

[forest edge]

I don't really agree with that. I think it was just one's vision of what the future automobile would be like.. not like a cell phone inspired anything

scroll down to the smart cabin section. need i say more? lol https://www.mi.com/global/discover/article?id=3095

[glacial knot]

unless you want to seem clueless, yes.
That's about the same as both Google's and Apple's integration with car dashes are trying to
And similar to cars running android as OS for their infotainment systems

[forest edge]

having goole and apple in what they call the infotament center is not the same as what xiaomi is doing

[glacial knot]

What do you think the difference is to what the article describes?

[forest edge]

if we are comparing just tesla, tesla would be the closet in terms of how intergrated most of the car is to that system.. but every other vehicle.. no not even close

I don't know how integrated teslas are to the same computer in the sense where if one fails.. the whole car is just dead but xiamoi are that intergrated

thats why I made the every 2 year comment above

[glacial knot]

The article doesn't suggest that in the least bit

do you have anything that supports your assumption that Xiaomi merged their critical and non-critical functions on the hardware layer?

[forest edge]

first of all it was a joke but there are videos online that showcase how your phone plays a vital role in connection to the car

one would hope the car could run without you having a phone.. but this day and age I would not be shocked if it couldn't and even the article lists the specs of car.. it sounds like a rolling phone lol

apparently you can get those in germany.. so get one and let us know

[glacial knot]

soo, you are clueless

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/have-a-good-day-alright-snap-peace-jim-carrey-gif-16946379

[umbral cliff]

Car inside looks like a tesla, filled with a giant touch screen

[forest edge]

because it has a screen?

[umbral cliff]

The minimalist singular touch screen to do everything

[umbral cliff]

Also yes, if the tesla bricks and update the car is undrivable

[forest edge]

its not like xiaomi hasn't tried to copy other things before

but I don't think they look the same

https://images.cars.com/cldstatic/wp-content/uploads/img-734512029-1536857594897.jpg

https://technofaq.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/word-image-64631-9.png

[umbral cliff]

Oh didn't realise it has a dash screen, then thats better than the tesla lol

[forest edge]

if anything you would say they did try and copy the tesla lol

[umbral cliff]

Otherwise very very similar

[forest edge]

yea it looks like it lol https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/112oqln/new_tesla_model_3_bricked_after_update/

teach someone to buy a fancy ev amirite

[umbral cliff]

Not all EVs are bricked like that

Some are sensible

[forest edge]

older ones.. but the future looks bleak

[umbral cliff]

Newer ones too aren't bricked from updates
Or at least can have automatic updates turned off

[forest edge]

you can't even drive a hybrid when the battery goes bad

no part of ev or the like sounds reliable lol

[umbral cliff]

No surprise if the battery in an EV goes bad you can't drive it
Just like if a cars engine goes bad you can't drive it...

[forest edge]

but hybrid as well?

that dosen't even make sense

[umbral cliff]

Probably depends on how the hybrid operates. If it charges the battery using the engine (and so is electric drive completely) then could make sense

If its just dual power, then its stupid I do agree

[glacial knot]

EVs have better reliability than ICE, since it's just way less moving parts in the engines
Modern car software setups are a different thing, but lower class EVs don't encumber themselves with as much either

[forest edge]

well when $$ is involved the definition of reliability somewhat changes

I have less invested in my truck at least in terms of repairs/maintenance over the last 20 years than most ev's first battry change cost lol

ev costs haven't really gone down either in regardless to replacement etc

purchase prices may have but thats it

[glacial knot]

If you want to compare running costs, you have to make an actual calculation of running costs that take fuel vs. electricity price per kilometer and driven distance into account 🤷

[forest edge]

even those old leaf batteries still go for around 16k

there is no doubt in fuel saving an ev will be cheaper.. but the question really boils down to are you actually saving in the end? if everything that either needs to be replaced or fixed on an ev is so much more expensive than a gas car those savings in fuel cost dry up quick

[glacial knot]

Do the maths on cars you care about 🤷

But if you try to compare repair cost of an ICE against battery replacement of EV you aren't doing it either

[forest edge]

there is a lot of variables at play

if I ever bought an ev it wouldn't be till someone has had one from a company I plan to buy from for at least half the time I have owned a gas vehicle and still say it was a worthy investment

car makes an awfully big paperweight

[primal laurel]

You're going to be driving EV one way or another, it's just a matter of time

[forest edge]

not necessarily ev's are not getting the good rap they had hoped

hell i think some of our car manfactures are even dropping thier ev lines

heh not just ours.. it seems

i'll probably be dead long before anyone is forced to drive an ev

[glacial knot]

Well, old people might not

[forest edge]

you just jinxed yourself

[primal laurel]

Which ones?

[forest edge]

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/13/ev-euphoria-is-dead-automakers-trumpet-consumer-choice-in-us.html

[primal laurel]

There's nothing there about dropping EV lines

[forest edge]

i mean scaling back..

[primal laurel]

And yeah every new technology goes through hypecycles, nothing new

Idk why last year was so good

[forest edge]

way to be optimistic

[glacial knot]

I wonder if you'll ever be able to make a statement that you can support on the first try 😂

[forest edge]

I would ask why you are always so angry but we already know the answer

[glacial knot]

Where do you see someone be angry?

[forest edge]

same place you get the notion where a statement that starts with "i think" is somehow meant to be solid fact lol

[glacial knot]

so yourself?

[forest edge]

case in point

[primal laurel]

Kind of have to be if you see how much research and development is being done by companies and uni's on improving EVs

[forest edge]

I have no doubts that at some point we will move off fossils fuels. but transitioning to full on ev is a long ways away still imo

when you see emergency vehicles switch over to full ev then you can be hopeful

[primal laurel]

We're much closer than you think

The US will take longer ofcourse because of your strong lobbyists and oil addiction

[umbral cliff]

Like a lot of the Chinese brands and their battery tech

[umbral cliff]

https://the-riotact.com/act-fire-rescue-welcomes-first-all-electric-fire-truck/720056
Already happening

[forest edge]

having a few is not the same as replacing all

there are already police ev's etc

but only a few

like 2 in a fleet etc

[primal laurel]

All the buses here are already electric

[forest edge]

yea we seen plenty of those on fire

[primal laurel]

None of them caught fire

[forest edge]

none of yours or no ev buses?

[primal laurel]

None of the ones that drive here

[forest edge]

well there are plenty around the world that has. so I guess the clock is ticking lol

[primal laurel]

gasoline vehicles are much more likely to catch fire so we're good

[forest edge]

you would hope so comparing something with a flammable liquid vs not but the fact that ev is not 0 chance says more in itself lol

[primal laurel]

what does that say?

[forest edge]

well since ev cars 50/50 catch fire when completely unattended and not involved in an accident while gas cars really only ever catch fire in an accident

i'll stick with gas

don't want to die in my sleep because my ev decided to burn up in the garage lol

[primal laurel]

wtf

[forest edge]

you thought they only caught fire during an accident?

[primal laurel]

you just keep saying the most random things without backing it up. Makes discussion pretty pointless

so im out

[forest edge]

do you people ever watch the news?

is this channel your ONLY source of facts?

[primal laurel]

im in research lol

[glacial knot]

Nah, this channel is our source for your imagination 🙂

[glacial knot]

What does that say?

[forest edge]

yet you never heard of an ev catching fire in a non accident scenario?

what do you reasearch? poop?

[primal laurel]

Electrical engineering

[forest edge]

watch the news.. you are embarrassing yourself

[glacial knot]

Though the catching on fire randomly is actually valid https://www.nfpa.org/news-blogs-and-articles/blogs/2022/11/28/evs-and-parking-structures mentiones it on the side
Shouldn't be hard to find actual incidents

[forest edge]

research how to google

[primal laurel]

the news =\= statistics

[forest edge]

hopeless

[primal laurel]

it's a big world, shit always happens. Doesnt say much, its about statistics

[sudden forge]

I just love that before the blaze was even extinguished, social media lit up about EV fire hazards in the Luton airport carpark fire

Transpires the vehicle that "caused" the blaze was non electrified

And bonus, wasn't in a collision

Albeit, it was running at the time rather than going boom while unattended and stationary

[primal laurel]

?

[sudden forge]

BMW have had a recall on gasoline fires that could be triggered without the engine being running though

[forest edge]

lol the loophole

[sudden forge]

The BMW one just required electricals to be on

Likewise plenty of gasoline fires over the years from dodgy fuel lines

See ford, Hyundai and Honda recalls

[forest edge]

non accident related ice fires here are so rare that I don't even remember the last time i've read about one.. here as in my local area.. not the country

[glacial knot]

what do you think you are saying by saying you are in research? That you are removed from reality?

[forest edge]

thank the ethanol for that

[sudden forge]

10% ethanol is basically highest you can get here and a lot is only 5, does a lot to hold it at bay

The ford fire is on an e85 rated line too

Metal

[forest edge]

ethanol eats through the rubber they use for the fuel lines.. not implying that is the reason for the fires.. just making a joke about it lol

[sudden forge]

Ford's is a metallic line that cracks due to thermal cycling

[forest edge]

you can chalk most ice fires up to negligent car care.. non accident related ones

thats kind of diffrent than ev fires

[sudden forge]

All the brands I mentioned above had major recalls over somewhat spontaneous ignition events outside of typical maintenance or collision

I've had the misfortune of being in a vehicle fire outside of collision

I live by a major trunk route through England too, again, once a year or so, you get vehicle fire, no collision

It's not that rare

[forest edge]

that sucks.. but again.. that is something that was a design flaw or human direct cause. hard to compare that to ev fires

i guess inventing the lithium battery is a human cause lol

[sudden forge]

Most EVs default to not charging to 100% which does significantly reduce the risk

And many are switching chemistry entirely to LFP which is darn stable

Also just had first power cut in 6 months here yay \o/ it lasted all of 5 seconds

A few EVs are even doing the short range model as being LFP and the upgraded range model as being NCM. Which is then kinda amusing as the lfp models usually default to using 100% of the pack, the ncm doesn't. And the usable range on default settings ends up being pretty similar, though of course you have that option of juicing up the ncm further

[primal laurel]

Far from it

[forest edge]

batteries have always had some con or another that has been hazardous to our health in one form or many. I don't see that ever changing so even if they lower the risk of spontaneous fires it will just be replaced with something else

though I guess they now have made a earth friendly liquid to combat lithium batteries

[glacial knot]

yea, far removed. Sounds about right

[forest edge]

bet that crap will cost a crap ton for fire fighters to keep on stock

[sudden forge]

oh LFP disadvantage is really well known and straight forward

its something folk wont like, and Ive already alluded to

RANGE

fixed loads of the issues of traditional lithium ion or lithium polymer cells. Greener to produce, more stable, harder wearing, less flammable, wider temperature range, and in some cases more power dense

But less energy dense, quite a bit less

[forest edge]

whats the range diffrence?

average currently is like 300 miles i think

[sudden forge]

Basically you're looking at ~75%ish

Theyre also slightly lower voltage per cell but thats not really a big factor here, might just cause you to run more cells in series and less in parallel

[primal laurel]

tesla has already been using LFP batteries for a long time, that chemistry is only getting better. Until something even better comes a long and then we switch to that. And so the train goes on an on

[sudden forge]

and yeah a lot of the standard range teslas are LFP

whereas the long range teslas are ncm still

pretty much everything from Byd is LFP

[forest edge]

without decent range it's just a city dweller

unless they somehow manage to cram in more universal chargers everywhere

[sudden forge]

GM and ford have both just made large investments towards LFP battery production, but dont yet have vehicles with it

[forest edge]

the article I posted earlier stated they are kind of shifting into hybrids

[sudden forge]

and pretty much any time you see lithium referred to in solar energy storage systems for homes, its usually lfp

But lets face it, in a stationary application like a home battery, does it matter if you can store less in a given volume when you can just throw more volume at it? Safety benefit more than outweighs the size penalty there

[primal laurel]

it's the blue LED all over again

[sudden forge]

Ultimately I dont think battery chemistry is gonna be 1 size fits all anyway

I know lots of hype exists for sodium ion, despite it having plenty of its own major disadvantages in current gen 1 cells.
But it is cheap. So maybe that'll make a nice little market segment for affordable EVs.

LFP, great mid range option but just wont have that roadtrip excellence a more traditional lithium ion cell can have.

Then lithium ion has its stability issues. But nothings gonna beat it for distance travelled

And then atop that, I dont think BEV is the only solution to a greener future either

even today in our predominantly ICE world, we have petrol, diesel and small amounts of LPG

[forest edge]

it's still 8-10 years for battery replacement

[sudden forge]

Fuel in an ICE motor isnt even 1 size fits all

[forest edge]

and that depends how you drive your car

[sudden forge]

CEO where I work has seen something like 10% degredation on his pre-production tesla roadster

14 years and over 100000 miles

[forest edge]

the car is a clock the second the battery for it was created.. even before the vehicle is built lol

thats another thing I don't like.. even if you don't drive the thing.. the clock is still ticking down

[sudden forge]

THough the gen 1 nissan leaf and a few other vehicles rip through their batteries

The prius hybrids did too, though at least functioned with a knackered pack

Basically had to truly kill the pack before it'd stop working

The leaf didnt have active cooling in its battery pack initially though, so they were basically just cooking the cells under load

[primal laurel]

about 10% after 300.000 km according to tesla

[sudden forge]

most today have active cooling and heating of the packs

Even quite a few of the plugin hybrids are active cooled/heated batteries

Rare that the heater is used for a huge amount, the warmth just from their internal resistance causing some heating under load is often enough to get them going in extreme cold, so while it might heat a tad if charging in extreme cold or when starting up the vehicle, it wont keep the heater on permanently

Case in point for EVs in cold countries. 82.4% of new cars sold in norway in 2023 were electric. Norway has some pretty harsh winters, yet theyre all on board with EVs and heat pumps

and thats 100% electric vehicles, hybrids are not counted

[primal laurel]

Norway has a lot of very cheap, green hydropower

[forest edge]

norwegians sanity was always in question too

[sudden forge]

it does, its more that a lot of folk claim EVs dont work in cold weather and heat pumps dont work for home heating in cold weather

and norway would like a word with those folk

but hey, while I did briefly own an EV

I currently drive around a modified 22 year old turbocharged petrol subaru with a manual gearbox

So make of that what you will

[primal laurel]

ironic

[fading ice]

I know this is an old message (found it in search), could you elaborate a little on this? Looking into multi-room audio solutions. I originally set up mopidy and snapcast clients, but I prefer LMS because each 'client' can play its own music source as well as joining a group. I think mopidy was the 'player' and you enabled clients to stream, so I think only one source could play something at the same time, harder to play different things in different rooms.

[red rock]

https://twittpr.com/lauriewired/status/1779771221741355509

[forest edge]

I wonder how many kids youtube is the father to

[gleaming crater]

I run the normal snapcast setup for the 'last mile' with a service feeding all my client nodes around the house

[gleaming crater]

But then my snapcast server spawns multiple squeezelite clients to recieve audio from an LMS server

The sqeezelite clients are named after zones in my house so LMS is only really playing to one output, multiple clients on snap can 'tune' into it

[fading ice]

Ah, so 2 zones can't different sources then, is that correct?

[gleaming crater]

https://dpaste.org/KWvXK

Here's the snippet of my snap server config

Fun fact tho, dryout_ms doesn't seem to actually work with squeezelite sources and snap thinks it's always 'playing' but that seems to be some kinda bug that isn't fixed with snap in general

I've got another automation to watch my LMS sources directly and switch snap sources on demand

[gleaming crater]

2 zones can't what?

And it's a bit long but here is my automation to automatically switch sources between local and 'all' automatically https://dpaste.org/sOOZF