the-water-cooler

[dawn moth]

Mine is wired to the output

So it's literally just power cycling it

I was gonna use a cloud integration to check if the button was pressed

But that method of yours sounds more stable

[prisma briar]

The zbmini just rectifies the power to DC and steps it down to like 3V to run it, I found the units themselves work fine off of 12V DC if you want 12V on the output line. I have mine on a 12v power supply and when load out turns on from the doorbell being pressed it flips a contactor that rings my doorbell chime.

[dawn moth]

Smart

[prisma briar]

It also gives me an HA notification I can automate off of

[dawn moth]

Mine is powered via a transformer pushing 24v AC

[prisma briar]

My doorbell is 24V AC but when the solenoid fires it shorts it and drops voltage down to near 0v which was causing the zbmini's to hang, hence the 12v power supply and contactor

[dawn moth]

Makes sense

I haven't noticed that with mine

[gleaming crater]

Usually smart doorbells need a bypass so the chime can still ring

Or have it built in

[dawn moth]

I'm just using the regular chime that wyze provides

[prisma briar]

I have a stupid doorbell just wired to S1/S2 on a zbmini

[dawn moth]

Ah

[prisma briar]

I have a camera out there that does two way audio too so I don't need a doorbell camera

[gleaming crater]

I ended up branching my transformer and firing it with an esp8266 when I get doorbell events

[prisma briar]

I basically just use a zbmini instead of an esp to fire mine.

[dawn moth]

I feel like there's a way to implement that for me but

[gleaming crater]

I programmed in multiple chime patterns into mine with esphome so I could have a virtual front and back door ring

[dawn moth]

Could just go get that community made integration 🤭

[prisma briar]

I would call the cops if someone started knocking on my back door

And wonder how they got over a 15' fence

My house is on a hill and right behind my backyard fence is basically a 10 ft vertical drop, lol.

[gleaming crater]

My wife runs a salon with an entrance on the side of the house from the front door

I had to put a doorbell out there for her lol

[prisma briar]

At least HA/smart homes make adding doorbells really easy

[gleaming crater]

Ish

Talking 2 way is a special kind of hell

The number of people that go down that whole road and then get mad they need working ssl lol

[prisma briar]

Just stick a polycom intercom on your door and make the doorbell call it and your cell phone

One of these things

[gleaming crater]

Somewhere there is a mountain of those in a landfill

[prisma briar]

I had an elaborate plan to do something like that when I moved in then I realized nobody ever comes to my door except to deliver things

I had everything set up except buying the actual polycom too

I still maintain an asterisk server to call out if an alarm gets triggered

[dawn moth]

I found this

What's your fellas thoughts

[prisma briar]

The first thing that comes to mind is if you reuse a neutral wire as a high voltage traveler you need to tape the ends of it red to reidentify it as a hot wire.

[dawn moth]

I thought it was gonna be a passive traveler?

This was with the switches

Couldn't I take the one neutral and move it to the switch upstairs, and then to the switch downstairs to complete the circuit

Since atm there's only one travel wire

[prisma briar]

I don't have a clear enough idea of your wiring to offer anything helpful.

You might have better luck asking in #hardware-archived or #zigbee-archived

Not a lot of people check #the-water-cooler a lot, compared to other channels

[gleaming crater]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoons-preparing-gif-20690190

Yeah stick to raccoons plz

lol

[static schooner]

Raccoon support is terrible

[forest edge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/MhpyGPUDz5o?si=QopI7Ugy5PXuQpmv

@tidal bronze this your place?

[tidal bronze]

Lol no. Didn't turn on a single light this time.

[static schooner]

Installation complete. Test drove over the last couple of days and 👍

I wish it was less giant and plasticky, and I may stop at the master bath for that reason

[prisma briar]

Hidden feature of American dryers: Pop the exhaust vent out of the wall and run it empty for an hour, easy 5kw space heater.

[solar zealot]

i still cant wrap my mind around this

hm yes, this produces an enormous amount of heat... lets... vent it to the outside

[primal laurel]

I don't even own a dryer

[prisma briar]

ikr

[solar zealot]

also americans: lets cool this air from the outside down so we can heat it up with a dryer

[gleaming crater]

also heat this tank of water

[prisma briar]

I've been trying to come up with a cheap solution to capture the heat from my dryer while still venting the moisture

[solar zealot]

by buying a more efficient dryer

[prisma briar]

A DIY condensor or something

[gleaming crater]

Heat pump dryer?

[prisma briar]

cheap

My dryer is in my garage so it's not like capturing the heat off of it is going to do me a ton of good

Not worth buying a new appliance for

[solar zealot]

with the magic of heat pumps

[prisma briar]

Didn't we go over how heat pump dryers don't work in cold rooms yesterday?

[solar zealot]

i mean, how cold is cold

[prisma briar]

Or was that someone else I was talking to

[solar zealot]

probably not me

[prisma briar]

I keep my garage set to 7C

[solar zealot]

thats one way of not having to iron cloths ;D

that could get more difficult

the measurements above are ~21c

[prisma briar]

From what I was reading they just don't get hot enough to be effective at low temperatures

[solar zealot]

7+c might work just fine for larger ones, but no idea about how those small ones would handle

id guess it still would work, in the end the dryers are rated for 1.2ish kw

[prisma briar]

Mine's rated for 5.6kw, lol.

[solar zealot]

which should be enough heat for what volume they have

the non heatpump one we had before did around 2kw

[prisma briar]

They make smaller ones I could have got. Mine is 7.4ft^3/ .2m^3

[solar zealot]

6 is just madness. probably this is a special setting after "extra dry" "desert dry" and "surface of the sun"

[prisma briar]

I can get mine to do lower power too, it's got a few different eco modes and load sensors

I could just adjust the temperature of it too, I do for some blankets I have that high heat would destroy.

[solar zealot]

If your garage is usually this cold, why not vent it directly into it

[prisma briar]

Too much moisture

I tried that, literally had water running down the walls

[solar zealot]

Oh I see, it doesn't pull out the water hm

That's no bueno then

[prisma briar]

I was thinking I may be able to do something like get 20m of exhaust hose and coil it up and blow a fan over it to condense it in one spot and keep it from going everywhere

But then I have a bunch of water I need to do something with

[gleaming crater]

Sump pump?

[prisma briar]

I was thinking a drain pump meant for an indoor air conditioner head

idk. This seems like a lot of work to recover waste energy from an appliance that runs for maybe 8h a week.

lol, not even 8h

Hmm. If I exhaust it through a barrel of water the water should cool the air on the way out and remove all it's moisture, then the barrel would radiate it off over time.

But then I'm keeping a barrel of water in my garage

[primal laurel]

At 5kW still a substantial amount of energy

Including heating my parents house is doing about 160kWh per week, I'm on natural gas

[prisma briar]

I've done 160kWh in the last two days

lol

Currently at 210kWh between yesterday and so far today

But 2/3 of that is stupid fishtanks

I just had to put a bunch more heaters out there because the fishtanks were still getting too cold so I'm burning 8kw right now to heat those stupid things

My friend finally agreed to fix the insulation problem with them so hopefully we won't have to keep doing this going forward

[static schooner]

Sous vide

[prisma briar]

I wish. He's got 2k of heaters in the tanks, I just rotated my 5kw garage space heater to blow out there, and he's got a propane space heater running out there too.

I really wish he would have listened to me and taken care of this insulation problem months ago, not now that it's -23c out

[tidal bronze]

Ain't it a treat \

Heated seat as well?

[static schooner]

Yep

[tidal bronze]

Nice.

[gleaming crater]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-japan-bidet-simpsonsinjapan-gif-22150493

[tidal bronze]

I am going to throw this damn govee corner lights. What a pain to convert to WLED

[static schooner]

https://www.costco.com/toto-washlet-elongated-bidet-seat.product.100973005.html?sh=true&nf=true

[forest edge]

you bought govee? isn't that too low class for you? lol

[tidal bronze]

Got a bunch on BF to add to ledfx. This ain't working.

Backto aliexpress and do my own DIY solution

[gleaming crater]

Govee is some peak chinesium brand

[prisma briar]

an esp32 + argb strip of leds + power supply is cheap and easy.

[gleaming crater]

LedFx has some really slick led matrix effects now too

[prisma briar]

And a broom stick and weight to hold it up to make one of those corner lights are also cheap

[tidal bronze]

Been running ledfx forever. I use WLED for ledfx.

[gleaming crater]

I submitted a PR to add LIFX support but I need to do some refactoring first

[prisma briar]

Hmm, I kind of like the idea of these corner lights actually. I might try making something like this myself.

[tidal bronze]

The corner lights would make some badass VU meters, at least that was the plan. Now back to frames from China and DIY

[prisma briar]

If I DIY one I'll probably just get a black iron pipe and stick an LED strip to one side of it.

[gleaming crater]

Yeah they have a 2d VU meter if you get a matrix array

[prisma briar]

oshit

I should put rgb strips on the back of my tower speakers

[tidal bronze]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805522851584.html

No need to make stuff anymore. Waste of time.

[prisma briar]

Yea, I couldn't make it that cheap

I could beat $80 but not $15

[tidal bronze]

Govee comes with 24V RGB+CCT, 4 led segments. What a shit show. Wish I knew.

Bad for ledfx

[gleaming crater]

Yeah it makes chunky effects

LIFX has 6 led zones and basically a centered blade power was the only decent effect

[tidal bronze]

I think I drive about 1200 leds on ledfx throughout lower level. Best thing ever.

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/sesame-street-disco-dance-big-bird-mr-snuffleupagus-gif-26501477

[umbral cliff]

Which one is you and which one is qf

[gleaming crater]

Yeah they just added animated gif to the beat support

[tidal bronze]

That's the only way I can have any kind of color in the house. Wife is cool with all my craziness but colors without music, hell no LMAO

[gleaming crater]

My lights are normally just for color temp

The lights to the beat are just parties mostly lol

[tidal bronze]

Same here. The entire backyard, all palm trees are VU meteres Lol

Running spectrum on all trees

[prisma briar]

Every once in a while I'll set all my indoor lights to some random color but I hardly ever actually use the color feature of my color bulbs

I change color temp all the time though

[tidal bronze]

DDP made things so much easier

[gleaming crater]

I had fun with my kitchen counters, I had 3 blade power+ configured to hi/mid/low for a spread out vu meter

[tidal bronze]

Kitchen couneter white overide is a must 🙂

[young sigil]

After being rescued by a Japanese training ship a few years ago I went out and bought bidets for my place. Haven't looked back (pun intended). They're most excellent.

[glacial knot]

separate ones, or the fancy integrated ones?

[young sigil]

Similar to the one Rob posted earlier. https://www.thebidetshop.com.au/brochures/coway-ba07.pdf

[gleaming crater]

What I wanna know is if there is a bidet with a 2-axis joystick to aim the nozzle

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-target-gif-19449575

[forest edge]

don't want to use the quinled's from drzzs? https://www.drzzs.com/shop/

[tidal bronze]

For aluminum frames?

[forest edge]

what

[tidal bronze]

I am only looking for corner led frames. Not leds or drivers. I have tons of that at home. 😆

[forest edge]

ah

[blazing musk]

Expensive fancy option https://8020.net/

Though I'm sure Ali has cheap extrusions

[forest edge]

thought that was in the US for a second

[blazing musk]

Minus the cab over truck, it could be

[forest edge]

nah there are a few other hints

[red rock]

Oeh tell me

[glacial knot]

traffic lights at the stop line, not opposing side
actual had lights that don't suck

[static schooner]

I can barely tell what I'm looking at. A view out the window with a ton of reflection of the interior space obscuring the shot? With colored lighting?

[red rock]

Exactly

[glacial knot]

I have a couple pictures like that of Tokyo at night 😂

[red rock]

I'm not used to waking up with snow as my view

[glacial knot]

I wasn't patient enough for the motion controlled lights to turn off

did you sleep in the office? o.0

[static schooner]

Nor am I. But that could be global news

[glacial knot]

Why would that be global news? Do you live in a volcano?

[red rock]

Why does it look like an office space

[static schooner]

Snowing in San Diego near the coast would be pretty historic

[glacial knot]

that garden? down there looks more like parking or space for trucks to park/shunt

Generally barren houses within sight, something that looks mostly like an office or hotel tower directly there
Just doesn't look like anyone close to it made the place home 🤷

[red rock]

Hah

Right

So

This is an apartment complex which is a renovated office space of Fujitsu

So I live on the edge of 2 industry terrians

[glacial knot]

^^

[red rock]

Which has cons

The gas station gets robbed every so often

The busses don't drive on the weekend (or I have to walk 10 minutes)

[glacial knot]

are there any pros? 😂

[red rock]

And I look on to a wasteland

The pros

I have a McDonald's nearby

I have 6 supermarkets nearby

I have a racetrack nearby

It's affordable

[glacial knot]

ok, so you got an icecream place and less supermarkets than I got 😂

[red rock]

I only go to 3 lol

[glacial knot]

well, only 3 are really in walking distance
I could walk to the others, but I wouldn't want to carry groceries that far

[red rock]

But this is like a trail version of living on my own

My parents live 13 minutes away by car

Or 35 on the bike

[glacial knot]

I can get to mine within 3 minutes by car 😂

[red rock]

But everything here is crazy expensive

And now I can just learn living on my own

Oh and, the place itself is quite nice

[glacial knot]

I used to live further, since it was cheap and close to the university
But moved back here because I like the area 🙂

[red rock]

Yea I don't have to go to university anymore

I now have to travel about 1h30 to the office when I go to Rotterdam

Or 40 when I go to Utrecht

[glacial knot]

I have roughly 90min of commute
But I only go twice a week

[red rock]

I go every day otherwise I'm not productive

[glacial knot]

planned to go today, but got a bit of a cold and impaired sense of smell
so I'll stay home. No need to spread D:

[umbral cliff]

I have a 15-20 minute commute each way
4 days a week in the office

[red rock]

Because I'm in the crunch of my thesis

[glacial knot]

Just be more productive in 2 days than others are in 4 😂

oh, thesis. Good luck

[red rock]

Like I used to be crazy productive, but I'm just very slow with my thesis

[glacial knot]

but yea, My commute is just a single train for a bit more than an hour
so I generally get to use the time

^^ getting the data: easy
writing the paper: hard mode

[dusky plank]

last time i left for work i broke my arm, not going to do that again no no

[glacial knot]

I think it takes me 4hours or so to go to the next office
10+h flight to the others D:

[red rock]

I mean I still struggle with just finding out how I want to research stuff

Great success

[glacial knot]

^^ throw it against the wall and see what sticks. yw

[red rock]

Yea that's what I'm trying

I'm slowly finding my vibe again

[glacial knot]

What's yoru research topic? 🤔

[red rock]

How to make our applications configurable

We make applications for pension funds (for the participant to login)

And every application is custom

Like some share a codebase, but it's still custom

And I need to research how we can move the workload to consultants

[glacial knot]

some industry thesis are weird
Is this Masters? 🤔

[red rock]

Bachelor

But it's university of applied sciences

[ocean oar]

Thanks, don't have any kids so printing these out to put on my fridge.

[clear ferry]

I get dry hands just looking at those drywalls

What an abomination of a building concept

[lone grail]

better than fxcking skim plastering!

[clear ferry]

I have noe idea what that is

Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen that

Nice, -31c today, and 40cm of snow tomorrow

[primal laurel]

A calm 1c today

Maybe some snow

[umbral cliff]

High of 23c here

Cold for summer

Gonna warm up though

[young sigil]

It was 28 in Tassie today. About to start raining for days though.

[last cedar]

@clear ferry

[clear ferry]

what is that, 3SEK or 30SEK per kwh ?

[low harness]

3

[glacial knot]

😅 : ATX doesn't know that a mega is

[red rock]

wtf is a kilometer

[glacial knot]

A thousand measuring points

[clear ferry]

It's just very strange to refer to something in both mega and SEK

Neither we do in Norway

It is kWh and øre

[glacial knot]

I wish Mm was used more often 😂

Flight: 12Mm

[clear ferry]

Such fast wow

[glacial knot]

🤦

[primal laurel]

that's a very normal unit for energy markets

in fact it's the standard unit

(for us it's EUR/MWh ofcourse)

[solar zealot]

That's a lot of markup ontop of those prices

[glacial knot]

that's just our idiotic regulation on energy prices 😦

[last cedar]

Wholesale price is MWh

I thought you would be used to MWh with your power usage 🤣

[clear ferry]

Sorry, I only deal in local markets, my time in the energy trading stopped in the 80s when I bought my villa in Switzerland

[clear ferry]

Hey hey hey, I only pull about 120kwh today

[last cedar]

Omg

I thinknwe used like 620kWh in December?

But we heat with pellets, so that is cheating

[primal laurel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxD0lEMrf1s

[solar zealot]

yea that is pretty accurate

[clear ferry]

https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/197mjd1/broadcom_killing_esxi_free_edition/

[distant junco]

It's sad how much faster things get worse these days.

[glacial knot]

"big" surprise

Broadcom being shit D:

[clear ferry]

Broadcom, where tech goes to die

best regards atx, that has to do engineering meetings with Broadcom

[last cedar]

I guess it just means more will swap to proxmox and such

[clear ferry]

disgusting, but yes

ESXi makes little sense for homelabs, but the shitkids will freak out that the performance is not the same on kvm

out of the box at least

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/jfk-clone-high-i-like-your-funny-words-magic-man-jack-black-gif-18659433

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/bTzCq.gif

[gleaming crater]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

Everyone always talking shit for years about proxmox suddenly running into its arms

[abstract hinge]

Hmm, i dont know under what cat my question will be fitting
Will be tado/homekit and zigbee

I wonder how i can trigger my Tado thermostat to start heating using a zigbee TRV in a different room

without burning my self up in the room that has the thermostat

[gleaming crater]

Sounds like you need #automations-archived lol

[static schooner]

If you don't know, #general-archived is the place

And...that cat

[last cedar]

Can anyone help me fault find?

I connected the plug into the wall outlet, but the device is complaining about a floating ground?

[gleaming crater]

https://tenor.com/view/dnce-gif-14762310134329663850

[gleaming crater]

What is this fire hazard

[last cedar]

Hasn't caught fire, but it is getting warm running the whole appartment building

[gleaming crater]

Also included: bonus bare-end wires?

[last cedar]

Isn't that how they should be?

I cannot believe that the standard plug fits in the din mounted RCD 🤣

[gleaming crater]

That looks like the round prong eu style but yeah totally up to code I bet

[glacial knot]

even if it works, it's still stupid

[gleaming crater]

Also isn’t that a 2-prong plug on the cord lol, what ground

[clear ferry]

The American two prong gives me anxiety

The three prong one isn't much better

[gleaming crater]

It’s a pretty shit design, too bad there are so many of them we’ll never change

I hate the 120v aspect of it worst tho, our kitchen appliances are weaksauce

I thought about running a 240v outlet in my kitchen just for a kettle

[glacial knot]

just ordered a 3kW kettle earlier today

[gleaming crater]

I love my kettle but it takes forever with American power

[clear ferry]

Modern kitchens here do 400 now I believe

For the oven / tops

[gleaming crater]

Wow that’s juicy I’ve never seen more than 240

But prob awesome for an inductive top

[clear ferry]

Yes

Induction is king

Modern kitchens here usually have 6+ top spots with boost and 2x wall mounted ovens

Quite practical

[gleaming crater]

I want an entirely new kitchen

Mine was built in 1980 and it’s got a stupid lowered ceiling

rages in 6 foot 8

I’ll never get the rage of a lowered ceiling in kitchens

[clear ferry]

Holy shit

The green giant

[gleaming crater]

Lol yeah

2m for you euros

[clear ferry]

You are two Tom cruises

[glacial knot]

Yea, they have been on 3phase here for ages

[gleaming crater]

When do I get paid like 2x Tom cruise

[clear ferry]

Sorry, my job is not up for hiring

[glacial knot]

It's just between two 240V (to ground) phases
So it can pull 16A on that 3 times^^

[primal laurel]

only if you have a 3 phase sytem. Which you have to pay quite a bit extra for in your utility bill here, but it's possible

[clear ferry]

If you have 3 kitchen appliances on 3ph is it NEINphase?

[gleaming crater]

Yeah 3phase isn’t cheap hookup here, mostly commercial only

[clear ferry]

The norm here since mid 90s

[glacial knot]

No. It's 3 phases into the house. So they'd share 3 phases, but might be on separate breakers

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/ls-bezbecja-paciorek-bezbek-karol-gif-19550666

[glacial knot]

I've only ever seen single phase on stuff that's from the 70s or older o.0

[primal laurel]

lol what

our entire country is single phase

[glacial knot]

🤢

[gleaming crater]

Lol we got that Edison electric here in the US

[clear ferry]

I'm impressed the US didn't just do DC distribution

[glacial knot]

Are you at least on something better than 110V?

[clear ferry]

Cue dead elephant

[primal laurel]

230

[glacial knot]

HVDC transfer nets are the new stuff though

[clear ferry]

I never said HV

[primal laurel]

only for cross border connections

or very long distance + high capacity

[gleaming crater]

I wish we had a low voltage standard in housing construction

It’s kinda dumb having to step down light sockets to led voltages

Give my light fixtures a low voltage bus I can put addressable devices on

[static schooner]

Lots of devices these days just take line voltage and turn it into low voltage DC

[gleaming crater]

All that redundant circuitry and power losses

[glacial knot]

and rectify like 100 times

[static schooner]

Less dangerous for users

[primal laurel]

I don't wish. Double wiring everywhere, even more voltage conversions but now DC to DC

[gleaming crater]

Us power is extra deadly with its 60hz signal too

[gleaming crater]

If you were building a smart standard you could let the device negotiate its power

USB-pd for lighting lol

[static schooner]

That would be cool

[gleaming crater]

It would mean having a whole low voltage box next to the HV

But in my house the lighting generally gets its own runs from outlets… lol

[primal laurel]

It's mainly about voltage

[gleaming crater]

True, would it run at 5? 12? 24? 48??

Too bad PoE lighting sucks lol

I’d just run everything at 12, toooons of leds in that voltage space lol

[primal laurel]

The higher the voltage the better. You will need very thick cables to carry any significant current at such low voltages though

[gleaming crater]

Lol true

I guess that’s also why you have to inject power into long led strips

[glacial knot]

and make sure the cabling is high admittance, or you get silly loss in house

[primal laurel]

Built in electric heating 👍

[gleaming crater]

Lol

[primal laurel]

The occasional fire is acceptable

Just get insured

[gleaming crater]

This is why the commercial lighting solutions just install a bunch of led drivers in the wall nearby

[glacial knot]

yea, if there's enough money and size to warrant custom setups

[tidal bronze]

What's your DC BUS voltage?

[gleaming crater]

https://tenor.com/view/jetbus-burning-bus-jet-gif-11850757

https://www.reddit.com/r/bitchimabus/top/?t=all

[blazing musk]

I've done something similar for all my battery powered outdoor holiday stuff. Making my own battery replacers with cheap tiny DC to DC SMPS boards and powering it off 20 volts

[primal laurel]

Bout three fiddy

[red rock]

My head replaced the t and the f

so I was like

you wat

[primal laurel]

So you have a dirty mind

[red rock]

knew that

[tidal bronze]

Nice, I run 2 48/24 with DC-DC bucks

[blazing musk]

https://a.co/d/iHFW9go

Cheap and functional

[tidal bronze]

Oh boy, nice buck, horrible trim lol

[blazing musk]

Fits within an AA footprint

Yeah, I just get it set and forget. I should probably hot glue them once it's set

[tidal bronze]

I hot glued mine but replaced all with a different one.

I use the landscape lighting 12V AC rail as well, with 5V/5A modules for WLED

[blazing musk]

I removed the cruddy landscape lighting setup years ago. Last couple of times I just ran some magnet wire along the ground (I have a huge spool that's over 20 years old) and it just kind of blends in, but something more permanent with weatherproof connectors spaced around would be nice. Deutsch connectors came to mind but they're not cheap, even the ones you find on Ali

[tidal bronze]

It was missery until I reaplced all with https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J5MW1TM?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

[blazing musk]

so it's basically a wire nut and a sh*tload of dielectric grease?

[tidal bronze]

Yep.

[blazing musk]

fun. I could just squirt my wagos full of dielectric grease too 🤣

I have a big can (I hate it, it leaks like a bad caulk gun)

[tidal bronze]

The latching mechanism, shoves the wire nut pretty deep in grease and I like the split so the grease fills back once latched.

[tidal bronze]

Yep another trimmer 🤣

[blazing musk]

hmmm weather pack connectors might fit the inexpensive bill

[tidal bronze]

What outdoor boxes do you use?

[blazing musk]

For AC power? Otherwise these would be exposed.

[tidal bronze]

For LV, haven't found the perfect WLED ground enclosures yet

[blazing musk]

I haven't used any controllers in exposed locations. I used these project boxes under the eaves for my lights: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/

I made my own bungs out of urethane resin (3D printed) though

[tidal bronze]

Mine are all half in-ground so rain and sprinkler exposure

[blazing musk]

nice found some weatherpack connectors for about $.50 ea after shipping

tried silicone glue/caulk?

now I just need to find dust caps for them...

[tidal bronze]

Always, but some leakage from the rubber lid seals.

[primal laurel]

these are tiny and fit behind the socket

[blazing musk]

keystone, what's the power input?

[blazing musk]

You can glue that too. If you need something thinner you could probably glue it with E6000

[tidal bronze]

Don't use anything 3d printed for outdoor use anymore. If it ain't going to last 5+ years I don't want to even start a project. Been there, done that!

[blazing musk]

Urethane should be good especially in a sheltered location where it won't get direct sun

I'd get that with an FDM or standard UV resin

that said I should figure out making molds for 2-part silicone

[tidal bronze]

Most wled controllers are at the bases of Pygmy Date Palm trees so not much shade.

[primal laurel]

230V to 5V1A

[tidal bronze]

https://www.arrow.com/en/products/psk-10b-s5/cui-inc pretty good as well for inwall down conversions.

[primal laurel]

not very safe with those pins sticking out

[gleaming crater]

Tell that to the cheaper ones that are a board of exposed components

[primal laurel]

that's why I shared a good one 😛

[tidal bronze]

Why would you want a USB sticking outside a wall plate to power something?

[blazing musk]

it's for circuit boards silly

[primal laurel]

how?

[gleaming crater]

Lol how is that different than plugging a brick into an outlet?

[blazing musk]

it's integrated into the design and soldered on

[primal laurel]

nothing is sticking out

[primal laurel]

I thought the point was to down convert inside the socket

[gleaming crater]

That’s why I love the outlets with integrated usb ports

Great way to delete bricks in certain areas

Tho if you need gfci too they’re way overpriced to add usb

[primal laurel]

yeah that would be best

but having the converter inside the socket does give you the possibility to hide cables

[gleaming crater]

My favorite “cable hide” was taking my old thermostat wiring, moving it to the opposite side of the wall in the kitchen, and running 5v usb from the basement to drive a tablet from it

I had one of those dumb Honeywell thermostats that only ran 3 wires to the furnace, worthless for anything else but a power feed

[clear ferry]

You kids and your thermostats and furnaces

[gleaming crater]

I got the dumbest thermostat ever, it doesn’t even have a schedule lol, I tell it what temp it is and manage my own schedules over zwave

[blazing musk]

With a modern panel you can do GFCI on the breakers instead

[gleaming crater]

I’ve had electricians tell me code still requires gfci outlets in damp areas

[glacial knot]

yea, it's so weird to me that other countries don't have building/apartment level GFCI

[blazing musk]

We had to finish the job our contractor went AWOL on and GFCI passed local code inspection

we actually failed the first one because I missed a couple damp areas and had only put CAFCI on them

so we swapped for the GFCI breakers and passed

[gleaming crater]

Lol my hot tub has gfci breakers in its sub panel

Required by code

[blazing musk]

yeah - you know what was hard was finding an in-stock GFCI 2-pole for my in-garage EVSE

I don't know that Square D even offered a plug-on-neutral one, I had to buy one with the neutral pigtail

[ocean oar]

We have one of the combo breakers for the bathroom, and I got the built-into-an-outlet kind put under the house for extension cords you want to sling down the garden to run power tools

I think early 2000s it became mandatory to have them for the whole house here, but our place is early 90s

[solar zealot]

Never a bad investment to post add such gear

[prisma briar]

I believe NEC 2020 says that GFCI's need to be in subpanels now and can't be in the main panel

If I was reading it right

Which is why the ones that go in your main breaker box aren't in stock anywhere anymore

[solar zealot]

do houses come with multiple panels standard over there?

[prisma briar]

Not normally, but GFCI breakers are also not the standard here.

We implement GFCI in our outlets, all subsequent outlets chained off of a GFCI one are protected by that one

[solar zealot]

I see, because you mentioned sub panels as main installation point

Which got me a bit confused

[prisma briar]

Yea, if you want a GFCI breaker and don't have a subpanel you have to have a subpanel installed too now

[solar zealot]

Oh

That's horrific

[prisma briar]

I have zero understanding of the reason behind that change

But I saw people talking about it and from what I could tell it was a thing

[solar zealot]

Might force people not just to wire it in but to wire it in properly

But that doesn't make a lot of sense

[prisma briar]

I wanted to put my dryer on a GFCI breaker but I couldn't find any that fit my main panel because they were all discontinued a couple years ago

[solar zealot]

Big panel does not want people to know

[prisma briar]

Which led me down that rabbit hole

[last cedar]

This is why I love DIN rails, everything just fits

Or doesn't!

[solar zealot]

Din rails but the faces aren't standard

Looking at shelly

[glacial knot]

They should just standardize on smiley for face

[solar zealot]

If they could agree on a charset

[last cedar]

I have so far just put standard Schneider stuff in mine, it all fits nicely

[solar zealot]

Cutting out a round hole on a square box

It also isn't exactly 2 units wide

[ocean oar]

Also what is this screws on the side nonsense?

[solar zealot]

That's where you plug in the wires

And screw them on

[ocean oar]

More, aren't they meant to be on the accessible side of the device? So you take the faceplate off the board and can see all the fasteners

[solar zealot]

Yes but this would make it unnecessarily wide

Could get more difficult when trying to post install it somewhere

[ocean oar]

I mean it doesn't have to. Plenty of devices have "tiers" of contacts like this:

[prisma briar]

This is a double pull breaker here

[static schooner]

Is that really the same thing? The point of that one is to cover both sides of the split phase

I don't know what the wedding cake thing accomplishes

[prisma briar]

Pissing off whoever comes to do wiring next?

We also have the half width ones that add two circuits to one slot

For some reason all of my breakers are double-pull breakers like the first I linked, even ones that I'm 99% sure are just two separate 120v circuits

[static schooner]

I was looking at my breaker box to see how I can install my IotaWatt and it's friggin' packed

no circuits left, lots of small breakers

small panel, outside my garage

[prisma briar]

My breaker box looks like hell after installing my Vue

Can't see the breaker box through all the clamp wires

[static schooner]

I'm going to have to punch a whole into the back to get power to the IotaWatt, or to pull the clamp wires through

it's quite a rat's nest

[glacial knot]

Is your breaker box not in a fire resistant box? 🤔

[prisma briar]

I spliced into two existing circuits (it wants to monitor each phase) with a wire nut to power my Vue

[static schooner]

This is the bottom of the box and I think I can punch through that bigger punchout to the right:

the one on the left is what my solar installer made, but I don't think it's big enough to push more wires through

[prisma briar]

That's what mine looks like with the Vue in it

[tidal bronze]

+1 for Vue

[static schooner]

see, I look at that picture and think "look at all the space you have!"

[tidal bronze]

I was about to say lol

[gleaming crater]

Did yall kill your main power when you installed that?

[prisma briar]

No

[tidal bronze]

I gotta rip all the Tesla CT's out. What a load of BS that is.

[prisma briar]

I killed the two breakers I spliced into for power connections and that was it

[gleaming crater]

The guy that did my hot tub wired up the whole line and breaker without shutting off the mains lol

[prisma briar]

Only time I've killed the main breaker is when replacing a sub-breaker

[tidal bronze]

Why would you turn off the breakers?

[prisma briar]

Yea, even then I could have not killed the power when putting in the sub breaker

[gleaming crater]

Something about “this will hurt the whole time you are dying” level of current in that box

[tidal bronze]

lol

[prisma briar]

Well you can't turn off the top two lugs anyways

So just don't touch anything stupid

[tidal bronze]

Touch but verify

[prisma briar]

Yea, I'm pretty judicious with my test probes when doing electrical work

[tidal bronze]

Finally!!! This took sometime. 😆

[gleaming crater]

Nice

[tidal bronze]

6 more to go

[gleaming crater]

Do you use the LedFx integration? I had to find a fork that actually worked

[tidal bronze]

That went south sometime ago. Not anymore. Call scenes depending on if LEDFX CCA is playing

[gleaming crater]

https://github.com/DeKaN/hass-ledfx this one works

[tidal bronze]

Chrome Cast Audio is in certain groups. Depending on which areas I am playing, invoke scenes accordingly.

[gleaming crater]

The parent branch maintainer went mia on that integration

[tidal bronze]

Yes. Thanks let me check it out. I use rest.

[gleaming crater]

Yeah this lets you control basically everything

[tidal bronze]

Same as before I guess. I didn't use the old one that much as well. Ledfx scenes are CCA groups/devices dependent.

I wish they improve scene editing on ledfx sometime soon.

[gleaming crater]

They did find some bugs recently related to it

[tidal bronze]

Adding devices to existing scenes.....lmao

[gleaming crater]

It’s easier to activate a scene and then create a new one from that state lol

[tidal bronze]

That's what I do.

[gleaming crater]

They code a terrifying amount of that app with help from ChatGPT

None of the regular devs for it are even programmers for a living lol

[tidal bronze]

For me what a perfect app. Simply love it.

[gleaming crater]

If you have wled it rocks

[tidal bronze]

New ones supports audio delay. I wish there is a way to adjust device delay. Used to work just fine with E1.31

[gleaming crater]

I am feeding mine with Snapcast, I can set a delay on that device and it gives data to LedFx earlier

[tidal bronze]

CCA + ledfx does the same but that's not enough for me. Backyard edges need more delay so need some way of adjusting device delay

[gleaming crater]

Just run another instance of LedFx lol

[tidal bronze]

Been thinking about that. Split audio and use ledfx USB Audio delay.

[gleaming crater]

Or just shove the code into gpt4 and ask it to code that feature, they’ll accept the PR lol

[primal laurel]

have you seen the domoticz codebase? Try there, they will accept anything lol

I love how I accept a GH copilot suggestion and it deletes half the file

[glacial knot]

oh right, I wanted to try the AI thingy at work tomorrow. Thanks for the reminder

[primal laurel]

it's great

can't aimagine working without it anymore

[gleaming crater]

Pretty soon when you gotta fill the shoes of three devs you won’t survive without it lol

[primal laurel]

im not a dev hehe

[glacial knot]

oh yea, it's gonna be great tools to make coding faster

though so far the suble ways it's constantly wrong make me probably slower in most situations

[primal laurel]

what are you using?

[solar zealot]

githubcp on ij has been pretty much useless for me so far

this probably needs a couple more years to refine

[glacial knot]

something under NDA at work
And not sure anymore what I tried at home before
though the one I want to setup tomorrow for work is the google cloud one. Since we are allowed to use it

The one I tried at home had no IDE integration. So it was pretty dumb

[primal laurel]

disagree, it's pretty good already (atleast with python)

[glacial knot]

if you only ever do script kiddy shit 😂

the fact that it works on one off scripts has no implications on actual software

There's also a clear difference between the baseline it has to compare to of peopel that actively claim to not be devs, and devs^^

[solar zealot]

ymmv
chatgpt for python numpy stuff works quite alright
but the only thing the gh one did for me on java was recommend increasingly senseless var names

[primal laurel]

eh frenck uses it and he is very enthousiastic about it. And he's insane

[solar zealot]

for kotlin i havent bothered trying it yet

maybe it has gotten better, but for writing tooling idk

[clear ferry]

Remember I saw someone had made a chatgpt enabled bash shell

And I was like

Jesus Christ my job is safe

[solar zealot]

that reminds me about the termius monstrosity

they added "ai" so now you cant tab complete directories anymore

[clear ferry]

Excuse me

[glacial knot]

??

[clear ferry]

Also, I love zsh partial completion, bash is like trying to get my 2 year old to do something

[solar zealot]

disabling it however also disables the password recommendations

[glacial knot]

...password recommendations?

[solar zealot]

for sudo cow

it ended in me now always logging in as root

[red rock]

Kotlin is awesome

[glacial knot]

what? I'm so confused what you are talking about D:

[red rock]

Me as well

[clear ferry]

We just woke up outside the matrix @glacial knot

Let's go back to sleep

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/pills-drugs-medicine-blue-pill-red-pill-gif-12463860

[glacial knot]

I'll probably go to sleep in the next 10min or so. sooo

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/can-i-join-can-i-join-in-gif-20353181

[solar zealot]

its way too freaky

[clear ferry]

This made me laugh so hard I had to screenshot it

[gleaming crater]

The scary part is you could ask ChatGPT what’s so funny about that meme and it would probably do a good job

It can

[red rock]

It's Syntax diabetes

[gleaming crater]

https://tenor.com/view/diabetes-diabeetus-fat-testing-supplies-gif-14163699

My sister used to make crazy cakes and someone asked for a bust of wilford brimley for their birthday. She put a glucose meter on the cake with a voice box inside that said "You got diabeetus" when you pressed it...

[solar zealot]

yea of course! let me just

fun includeEditor(skip: Boolean = false, user: User? = ticketHistory?.editor, configurator: (UserResponseJsonBuilder) -> Unit): TicketHistoryResponseJsonBuilder = modify(skip) {
        it.editor = UserResponseJson.builder(user)
            .apply(configurator)
            .build()
    }

like anyone could guess what it does

[gleaming crater]

I've noticed gpt likes to shorten code just to save tokens or something

Like bitch I had it formatted the way I wanted it

[red rock]

Yes

[static schooner]

There's nothing really 'uncanny valley' about that dude

[red rock]

Hold up

[solar zealot]

;D

[red rock]

Didn't see the types

Wth is it in this context

[solar zealot]

its part of the TicketHistoryResponseJsonBuilder, which is returned by the modify(bool) method which consumes the modifier of a TicketHistoryResponseJson entity

[primal laurel]

lmao

can you do the free real estate meme?

https://tenor.com/view/its-free-real-sate-gif-7215175

[solar zealot]

modify kind ajust hides this mess

fun modify(skip: Boolean = false, modificationScope: (T)->Unit): B = this.apply {
        if (!skip)
            modificationScope(template)
    } as B

[red rock]

Like

You can do crazy things with it

But it's very unreadable

[solar zealot]

yes

[red rock]

But I just like the null system compared to Java

And the eco system

[solar zealot]

that is probably the worst

[gleaming crater]

Yeah it's more surreal than uncanny but I kinda get it lol

[solar zealot]

the nullability

its either lateinit or it is not

[red rock]

?

No just don't have null values

[gleaming crater]

The meme you've provided is known as the "It's Free Real Estate" meme. It features a man with a smug expression, whispering to the camera, which comes from a sketch from "Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job!" The phrase "It's Free Real Estate" is superimposed at the bottom. The humor in this meme comes from its use as a reaction image to situations where something is being offered at no cost or with little to no catch, suggesting that it's an opportunity not to be missed. The phrase has been widely adopted on the internet to humorously convey that something is being presented as a "steal," or a great deal. The smug expression of the man adds to the comedic effect, implying a secretive or inside-joke quality to the opportunity at hand.

[red rock]

String?

[solar zealot]

thats not how data works sadly

there may be stuff that temporarily is null while generating the required dependencies

but that shouldnt force the api show it as nullable

[red rock]

Never had a problem with that tho

[solar zealot]

you can fake it somewhat with lateinit but that doesnt works for formerly known primitive types

[neat bison]

Anyone know where to get reasonably priced name-brand cr2032s in the US?

[solar zealot]

so for those you fill in just out of range stuff to fix

[neat bison]

Big box stores want upwards of $1/battery

[blazing musk]

I'm the idiot who replaces switches on live wires to avoid annoying other household members. Insulated screwdriver and needle-nose pliers and wagos to cover stuff...

[neat bison]

I do it because I’m lazy

[blazing musk]

Bundles on Amazon. Costco packs of Duracell.

Also prices at home improvement warehouses on specialty batteries are often better than other places.

[neat bison]

Short 120V shocks haven’t killed me yet

[blazing musk]

just very surprising

[solar zealot]

make sure to check the manufacturing date if you pick up batteries from anywhere

it may be cheap at places but if they are old you gain pretty much nothing

[neat bison]

Guess I’ll try Home Depot

[gleaming crater]

Just don't get off-brand cr2032's if you have small kids the the house

Only the name-brand has the bitter coating that could save your kid's life

[neat bison]

That’s good information to know, thanks

[gleaming crater]

I unfortunately know someone who lost their 2 yr old this way, it's tragic as fuck and people don't realize how deadly coin cell batteries can be

[neat bison]

I want Panasonic but I’ll settle for Energizer, Duracell, or Rayovac

Shipping from DigiKey is too much to justify only buying batteries and Amazon brand CR2032s don’t seem to exist

[gleaming crater]

I wouldn't even trust name brand to not be counterfit off amazon either

[neat bison]

I’d never thought about it

I’ll just wait until I have to order more junk from digikey

[gleaming crater]

https://onlybatteries.com/batteries/size/shop-all-sizes/?_bc_fsnf=1&Size=CR2032&sort=pricedesc&brand=68 don't know if these are a competitive price

[neat bison]

Nah they’re like 35c on digikey

There’s not a cent symbol on my keyboard, huh

[umbral cliff]

Just don't leave coin cells hanging around loose

[gleaming crater]

Agree, I think too many are unaware of the risks even

[umbral cliff]

Does America have the baby safe packaging for coin cells?
The type where it's hard to cut it open as an adult?

[gleaming crater]

I've seen cheap amazon ones not include it

You know, where there is an X in the back you can just push the battery thru without any tools

[umbral cliff]

Not surprised the cheap ones don't

Anything sold in Australia has to be fully sealed in plastic and only opened by scissors. Which can be a pain

[static schooner]

The Energizer 2032s that I've gotten from Amazon are a real pain in the ass to open. They have a cardboard backing, but I have to go all medieval on it with a screwdriver to get in there

I keep thinking that I'll be able to push them through, but it just doesn't work

[gleaming crater]

That's cuz name brands don't like getting sued, it's only sketchy when its the noname cheap crap

[ocean oar]

Yeah the new kind seems to be heat-sealed shut around the circumference of the battery, and then glued onto the cardboard backing

So you have to rip it off, then trim around the edge to free the battery

I don't use a lot of them, just some Tile trackers and my car alarm remote. Remember them being an arse to get into though

[gleaming crater]

Yeah the brands here are all that way in stores

[ocean oar]

I'm also surprised they've not done anything to mandate child-proof packaging for dishwasher detergent packs.
Apparently those can be a big problem, because they're sweet-smelling, mouth-sized, and usually stored in the cupboard under the sink.

Containers of powder dishwasher detergent have child proof tops, but not the tablet kinds

[gleaming crater]

Last time I bought powdered detergent it had a plain metal pour spout on the side

But yeah you'd think the tide pod craze woulda caused more uppity laws

[solar zealot]

most dangerous stuff isnt child proof
kinda why it says "keep out of the reach of children"

[gleaming crater]

I had an uncle go to the hospital for a case of lawn dart in the hand and he turned out fine

Apparently they were out trying to catch them lol

Gah I can't with these devs, trying to ship an app with a fixed passsword salt and pre-created users in the database

[tidal bronze]

2032's makes me wanna rethink life

[umbral cliff]

Especially when the zip lock part barely seals them normally
A child may as well dip their hand in lol

[forest edge]

likely just the effects of eating too much grass

[tidal bronze]

They should have items for kid-less peeps. I didn't sign up for this

Dogs are never interested in 2032's

[ocean oar]

Lol, and you can buy a doormat that says "we are a warning label-free household"

[tidal bronze]

None of that stuff works at my place, starting with shoes.

[umbral cliff]

Not ever going to have kids?

[tidal bronze]

No. Can fund few hundred elsewhere with same amount $$

[forest edge]

wtf does items for kid-less peeps mean

[tidal bronze]

Child proof lol

[solar zealot]

the worst thing they child proofed is chlorine tablets

they are

• hand sized
• go into pools
• dont belong into food shelves

[tidal bronze]

LMAO

[solar zealot]

why do they need this

[tidal bronze]

Life could be so simple.

[solar zealot]

even for medications this is a bit weird

[tidal bronze]

Don't even get me started with medicatons

[solar zealot]

they cant slurp the cough syrup but they can easily overdose on tablets right next to it

[forest edge]

only child proof thing I ever had issue with are those round doorknob covers. some of them don't collapse and get a grip even for an adult to try and twist open the door

[tidal bronze]

Pillpack sorted out that for me. No more bottles. Supplements, sorted!

[solar zealot]

we dont usually get them in bottles around here

[tidal bronze]

https://www.pillpack.com/

[solar zealot]

they are just inside those fancy pop out trays

[forest edge]

wtf thats a real thing

[tidal bronze]

Yes, been for years

[ocean oar]

Yay, more plastic waste!

[solar zealot]

that seems like a pretty good thing for old people

or for those that dont want to bother remembering what to take

[forest edge]

you calling queef old?

[tidal bronze]

LMAO

[solar zealot]

take 1 tablet by mouth daily
how else are they going to take it

[solar zealot]

take by hand then eat using the mouth

ono

[tidal bronze]

For me it's supplements, can't be bothered to remember. Break a bag and go for it. Done!

@forest edge Yep, welcome to the bubble.

Aazon bought pillpack few years ago. Jeff knows what's good 🙂

[forest edge]

wonder how much extra that is

[tidal bronze]

Same price.

[forest edge]

same price as ordering your shit off amazon

[tidal bronze]

At least I think so. Who got time to check

Convenience, priceless!

[solar zealot]

thats what the amazon purchase button thingy was for ;D

[forest edge]

so they probably mess up from time to time and you jst tear the bag and swallow all of it without checking lol

[tidal bronze]

100%

[forest edge]

your gonna be right there with the norwat taking estrogen pills and not even know it

[solar zealot]

more is always better

[tidal bronze]

Just imagine 20+ supplements and keeping track of that shit

Let Amazon handle that stuff

[solar zealot]

at some point the effects start to cancel out or something

[forest edge]

man boobs in LA is normal right?

[tidal bronze]

You know right?

[solar zealot]

you also get those from too much burgers

[tidal bronze]

You mean https://hackthemenu.com/in-n-out/secret-menu/flying-dutchman/

[solar zealot]

does that make it out-n-in

[forest edge]

is that two burgers and an egg?

[solar zealot]

knowing america it likely is "cheese"

[tidal bronze]

No buns. Who eats buns anyways

[solar zealot]

the worst eating experience i had so far was at 5guys
is it normal that they expect you to eat out of the bag?

[tidal bronze]

5 guys? Sorry that's not a SoCal thing.

[forest edge]

yes

[tidal bronze]

Never had and don't want to.

[forest edge]

nothing wrong with 5guys those fries are good

[solar zealot]

i already hate not eating from real plates at the more common stores

but straight out of a paper bag in a seated area

really

thats super weird

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge some NZ pink lobster. Thinking of you...

[forest edge]

gross

that looks like uncooked seafood around white rice

[tidal bronze]

Why on earth would you cook good tasting stuff?

[forest edge]

not in the habit of intentionally trying to give myself diarrhea

looked at that in-n-out menu.. that place is nothing like it use to be

[tidal bronze]

Them this wouldn't be your thing?@forest edge

[forest edge]

who the hell eats deep fried spider?

[tidal bronze]

One day you need to come with me to China.

[solar zealot]

the 1/3 pound spider burger

it has, many, legs

[forest edge]

no thanks.. doing good to still be covid free

[tidal bronze]

You don't know what you are missing @forest edge

[forest edge]

loss of taste, breathing problems and potential brain damage.. i know exactly what i am missing lol

[solar zealot]

its not a bat

[tidal bronze]

LMAO.

[solar zealot]

it even is smart, there are qr codes to scan

[tidal bronze]

Everything is WeChat pay

[solar zealot]

kinda neat

[forest edge]

isn't that the goverment ran thing they force all of thier citizen to use?

I saw a linus tech tips where they bought a tv from china that wouldn't even work till they registered thier account with wechat or whatever lol

[tidal bronze]

Nopes, GOV is losing it with WeChat since most money is in there. Even to most remote villages and if you want something it's WeChat Pay

[solar zealot]

if your social credit is low you loose tv watching rights (or it limits the active screen area)

[tidal bronze]

Only thing I don't understand about China is their love for Jeep and Dewalt.

[forest edge]

vs japan and karoke to old 80's music

[solar zealot]

the best kind of music

[tidal bronze]

Jeep T-shirt can make wheels turn down in Shenzhen

[forest edge]

@peak cloud is the expert in that area

[peak cloud]

Yes, yes I am 😂

[forest edge]

lol see

[tidal bronze]

@peak cloud Oh wow. DUDE! How the hell are you?

[forest edge]

jeep weirdos

[tidal bronze]

It's been ions.....

[umbral cliff]

Hint, it's no longer 2019/early 2020, covid is in basically every country

[forest edge]

care less about what countries it's in.. just not going to temp fate by visiting it's birth place

[solar zealot]

you might be able to bring a new present

[tidal bronze]

@static schooner 😀

[umbral cliff]

Same logic as not wanting to go to the USA because of syphilis then

[solar zealot]

getting shot

[forest edge]

thats would be california only

[static schooner]

The separate remote is definitely a level-up. I'm kinda surprised that they don't do that for all of them

seems like a mountable remote wouldn't be that much more complicated, and would eliminate some of the bulkiness

[tidal bronze]

One day when you get on that Greyhound and arrive at Union, all your fears will be gone!

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/bluewentzu-gif-20690900

[forest edge]

yea cause the greyhound wouldn't make it.. likely die somewhere in colorado lol

[tidal bronze]

You must come to LA. Hopefully when I am in town.

[umbral cliff]

So you can try and hit him at 150mph whilst you play on your phone and drive?

[tidal bronze]

Of course. How else would you drive here?

[umbral cliff]

Legally

[tidal bronze]

I never do anything illegal. Come on now. '

[forest edge]

sounds hard.. you make it sound like you are only in LA for a few hours every 3rd tuesday of every leap year

[tidal bronze]

Sadly that's the truth.

Will be in Detroit a few weeks. Renovations in the works.

[umbral cliff]

By that logic qf isn't going to be back, his last Tuesday was yesterday/today 😂

[forest edge]

why he posted a picture of him eating out.. kind of his farewell tradition to his wife lol

[tidal bronze]

LMAO. Wife says that same.

https://buildingdetroit.org/properties/ownitnow/ so many oppurtunites.

[forest edge]

lol detroit

there are shows on youtube that highlight the house flipping of abandoned neighborhoods

they take these properties that looked like they were once decent.. gopt squatted in for several years.. they flip then want a pretty penny for the result

no way in hell am I gonna pay a premium for a house where people have been shitting all over and inside the walls

[tidal bronze]

Started in 2022 down there. Been pretty awesome. Got a LA team housed there permanantly. Loving it.

[forest edge]

you would.. it's alot like LA lmao

[tidal bronze]

Sadly 2 different worlds. I am not there to judge.

Just flip and on to the next.

[forest edge]

i'll judge.. it's a shithole

anywhere where you can roll a 3 sided dice before leaving your home to predict what likely bad shit is going to happen to you is a shithole

[tidal bronze]

Honestly it's not that bad in some areas. For me as long as money talks. Area is irrelevant.

[forest edge]

uh huh

you live in a locked down gated community with security

as far as your concerned everywhere around you could be submerged in lava with escape from LA style apocolypse but as long as your gated community looked nice you'd be happy lol

[gleaming crater]

Sounds like snowcrash

[tidal bronze]

Isn't that the one thing you want, be oblivious.

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/ignorance-is-bliss-cypher-joe-pantoliano-the-matrix-oh-well-gif-22197092

[tidal bronze]

Talking about gated. Thanks to tasker gate CID now turns on all front yard LED's without waiting for yard PIR sensors.

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/prison-break-prison-break-gi-fs-fall-gif-8195852

[tidal bronze]

Being nice to uber eats.

[forest edge]

your shit probably looks like the outside of a prision at night

during an escape

[tidal bronze]

Nopes no flood lights. Why would you need them. Just landscape and RGBW fairy sutff.

[forest edge]

rgb fairy stuff huh

[tidal bronze]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805955083502.html

[forest edge]

you ran that shit down your drive?

I never liked those glob leds

[tidal bronze]

All palm trunks.

[forest edge]

I don't mind the mini versions like what they stick inside bottles etc cause they are too small to see the little globs but the bigger stuff i don't care for

[tidal bronze]

These are super nice. Mellow is the keyword.

[forest edge]

you did that to your trees?

[tidal bronze]

LMAO I am crazy, not that crazy.

Every 4 months palm pruning that does not work.

[forest edge]

https://unidavislighting.com/products/outdoor-led-palm-tree-palm-tree-ring-light-hug-tree-led-landscape-led-light-outdoor-decorative-waterproof-lamp-holiday-emitting-color-warm-white-yellow-green-rgbb-power-12w-18w-20w-25w-waterproof-ip65-voltage-dc-24v-ac-130-220v

thats a long url lol

[ocean oar]

I don't want to ruin it, but I don't think these people know anything about palm trees

suitable environment: -25°-45°

Pretty sure they don't grow in a sizable chunk of that temperature range

[gleaming crater]

Lol that's like the people that try planting them in seattle and watch them die every winter

There is one 'hardy palm' that'll survive here and looks like shit

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge going to try out these next https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256802064057239.html

Planning to try them out at garage doors.

[ocean oar]

I have one of these palms in my back garden: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_canariensis
Looks nice, but it has some vicious spikes on it

[tidal bronze]

Most of my front yard are these

Larger ones in the backyard.

[forest edge]

thats like shit you put in those fany houses that are mostly just glass windows lol

[tidal bronze]

Don't let your heart be toubled. Let me test it out first. Having a shop in China is not a good thing. LMAO>

[forest edge]

these atleast replae an lights https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801259742489.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.4ceeDBdeDBdep5&gps-id=pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.40050.354490.0&scm_id=1007.40050.354490.0&scm-url=1007.40050.354490.0&pvid=e2be93eb-a529-4f66-b94c-6e0f5f1cf780&_t=gps-id:pcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.40050.354490.0,pvid:e2be93eb-a529-4f66-b94c-6e0f5f1cf780,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238115%232000&pdp_npi=4%40dis!USD!30.49!18.29!!!218.12!130.87!%402101c5b217054540249337014ed0ba!12000022188857699!rec!US!!AB&utparam-url=scene%3ApcDetailTopMoreOtherSeller|query_from%3A

omg shift C works but not lowerase

stupid razer keyboard

[tidal bronze]

One day I will have a desktop in the house. One day.

[forest edge]

razer use to actually be a good brand eons ago

but my last two have been complete shit

[tidal bronze]

My desktop is in the garage. Some logitech keyboard. No major componets inside the house. My rules are hurting me. LMAO.

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/typeoneg-gif-21921244

[forest edge]

wtf kind of rule is that?

[tidal bronze]

Rule of nothingness is the house.

[forest edge]

whats the point of having a house then?

[tidal bronze]

No pictures, no electronics in the house.

[static schooner]

Sounds like you need an electronics shack/out building

[forest edge]

you watch tv and listen to your music and nuke stuff in the garage?

[static schooner]

Only a bidet

Priorities

[tidal bronze]

TVs and Speakers only. Everything else is on racks in the garage.

[forest edge]

sounds nuts

not much of a home if you don't fill it with stuff

[tidal bronze]

Oh no. Wife's into minimalist look. I kinda like it too. When shit happens in the background it's even better

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/fresh-prince-room-empty-alone-will-s-mith-gif-11321840

[tidal bronze]

Yes exactly that lol.

[forest edge]

fuck that lol

if your not tripping over shit, your not living

[tidal bronze]

The damn echo in the house sometimes gets to me.

[forest edge]

i bet

fart and people across the house hear it

[tidal bronze]

Now the bar is too crowded. Gotta redeisgn that shit.

[forest edge]

no people allowed either.. too much clutter

gotta face time to hang with friends

[static schooner]

seems like maybe you're a spy and may need to leave the country at a moment's notice

[tidal bronze]

That's what friends say.

[static schooner]

or make it look like you've already left

[tidal bronze]

Friends always ask about pictures..... LMAO

[forest edge]

yea your not making any trip to visit sound appealing at all you weirdo lol

[tidal bronze]

Sorry, it is what it is. lol

[forest edge]

serial killers in movies are often very neat and live in empty homes..

meanwhile if you visit me you may wanna get a tetanus shot beforehand

[static schooner]

kept to himself, lots of loud sounds coming from the garage...

[tidal bronze]

I wouldn't expect anything less from middle earth

[forest edge]

outdoors is scary

you would probably like our airport tho. we just built a new fancy one

i not been there yet but the sketeches made it all look futuristic

[tidal bronze]

Will be spending some time there in March 🙂

[forest edge]

i'll be sure to give the locals a heads up so they can prepare the brass knuckles

[red rock]

This is the first time I actually needed the arrow to see the joke

[dawn moth]

Ah yes relatable

touches it anyways ahaha

[clear ferry]

Hey, I parked 15m ago, might be snowing

[primal laurel]

I also have snow

About 5 cm

[clear ferry]

I had just delivered the eldest in kindergarten

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/bike-fail-fall-stuck-in-snow-pappapåis-gif-11439680

[gleaming crater]

I need a good book to read

[gleaming crater]

Lol a novel not a textbook

Why did you have that on hand so quick lmao

[red rock]

Google

[red rock]

I read this on holiday lmao

[gleaming crater]

I’m just the guy who runs IT, I try not to code for a living haha

I swear tho I’ve read just about all the science fiction worth reading at this point

[young sigil]

The Skinner by Neal Asher?

[gleaming crater]

I’ll give it a look

[clever mortar]

Asher's stuff is good

So is Banks

[young sigil]

Oh Man. You have a whole (Polity) Universe waiting. He is definitely up there with IMB.

[gleaming crater]

I’ve read pretty much all Ian banks

[young sigil]

I'm kinda pissed that Mr Banks died. I had to read a few of his non scifi works. They were... strange.

[gleaming crater]

The last author I really enjoyed finding was Greg Egan

Super hard sci-fi but fascinating stuff

Quarantine is a great one of his

[young sigil]

Ooh. Haven't read any of that. I'll check it out. Thanks.

[gleaming crater]

Schilds ladder is stuck in my brain too

[clever mortar]

if you want something lighter then Glynn Stewart, Evan Currie, Eric Thompson, and Joel Shepherd are worth a look

Oh, and Blaze Ward, as well as Terry Mixon

[gleaming crater]

I’ll have to add em to my Goodreads shelf

Oh for fucks sake

[young sigil]

I've just finished A. A. Attanasio's Radix Tetrad. That guy is on some good drugs.

[gleaming crater]

Damnit now how am I gonna make coffee

[red rock]

extra crunchy

[gleaming crater]

Let’s see how quick Amazon can get one here lol

[red rock]

I mean, I have a low expectation of companies delivering glass items

[young sigil]

Peter Hamilton's Salvation trilogy is also quite good. Read all three in two weeks on a voyage back home.

[gleaming crater]

I read his commonwealth series

[clever mortar]

Jonathan E. Hernandez's Gordian Knot series is good too. At least the first two books are, haven't started number three

[young sigil]

Same scale, maybe bigger but I rate it better.

[gleaming crater]

I wish there were more bobiverse and murderbot books I haven’t read, those are a good series

Tho the last two for both were a little weak

[clever mortar]

Ah... you like those do you... let me dig out some other suggestions then

[gleaming crater]

Eh they’re quick

[clever mortar]

Yeah, I mix my deeper reading with light and quick

[gleaming crater]

That’s like Greg Egan, inventing life with new kinds of rules of physics, I need a light palette cleanser after

[clever mortar]

Not SciFi, but lighthearted and bounces along are most things by Orlando Sanchez

Michael Anderle is hit and miss, but some stuff is fun and light, though some ... yeah, let's not go there

Joshua Dalzelle is another I'd put on the quIcker end of the scale

[gleaming crater]

I know who to annyoy if I ever run out of books to read again lol you have a laundry list

[clever mortar]

And if you like SciFi mixed with DnD try this

[gleaming crater]

"Tolkien meets Shock and Awe" lol

[clever mortar]

Oh yeah, reading is my other hobby, and I read a lot

[gleaming crater]

I go in spurts where I'll read 5 books a week and then have to take a break to be more productive

[clever mortar]

SciFi, fantasy, horror, thriller, and most things in between

[gleaming crater]

Sometimes I'll hit a book so bad I have to just stop reading for a few days lol

Oh yeah Blake Crouch has some great stuff if you want scifi thriller type

Recursion and Upgrade were pretty good

[clever mortar]

Cool, I'll add those to my list

[gleaming crater]

He was the dude that wrote Wayward Pines that got turned into a show (book was much much better)

Dark Matter was prob my fav of his tho

Anways thanks for the recs all, I should have plenty in the backlog now haha

orders a new coffee pot

Damnit this is like the third pour over I've broken according to my amazon history... I think I have a problem

[red rock]

how did you even do that in the first place

[gleaming crater]

This time I managed to bump it with my hand reaching for something else and it fell over and hit the metal edge lip of my stove

Even tho this is borosilicate glass, I think with multiple years of heat cycling they don't tolerate being knocked over lol

[gleaming crater]

Lol my wife came down and saw me shopping for a coffee pot and was like "how many of these have you gone thru now already??"

I was like... uhh... a number?

[clear ferry]

finally found a good use for the 32 spare 2TB SSDs I have laying around

using them for specific mounts as needed

[glacial knot]

are WoW assets this large now?

[clear ferry]

Yes

Not the flying ones

then I need 4TB

[gleaming crater]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-23918002