the-water-cooler

[umbral cliff]

Point proven

Got priority funeral processing too? 😂

[tidal bronze]

Didn't select flowers though. Too many choices

[forest edge]

fast cars and speed was thrilling when I was younger but most people outgrow it with age

[tidal bronze]

Fast cars are overrated. I like sleepers

[umbral cliff]

Quad seems to speed up with age

[forest edge]

all that flight time.. he feels slow on the ground

[tidal bronze]

exactly 💯

[glacial knot]

Highway to graveyard

Or scattered over multiple

[forest edge]

if you want a speed rush you should drive one of those super fast gokarts.. being that close to the ground and not having a shell around you really puts it in perspective lol

the higher you are off the ground the less the speed impact on speed judgement you have

[tidal bronze]

Well my ebike does 87mph so there's that

[forest edge]

no no gokart

bike still puts you at car height

[tidal bronze]

Screw that cart stuff

[umbral cliff]

Ooh quick way to be a human crayon

[tidal bronze]

Took me 2 years to find disc brakes to stop the damn thing. But it's all good now

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/fLc-bzcVmik?si=PaRFeuKOUV6gaCei

[tidal bronze]

It was not all fun today 😕

[forest edge]

you were driving over 100 during a sleet storm?

[tidal bronze]

Who me?

[forest edge]

no the californian who posted the 117mph screen shot behind you

[ocean oar]

Why does your HUD have a picture of a green alien wearing headphones?

[umbral cliff]

Im more amazed he wanted to take photos whilst driving

[tidal bronze]

Sony ANC

[forest edge]

you know they make pretty good realistic pc racing simulators now that people can fit in thier homes

or you could build your own lol https://youtu.be/YZfblU3dd6k?si=vJkLKncjSipEVyXc

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge 1000 miles an year, I gotta make it count.

[forest edge]

https://turo.com/ be safe and make extra money at the same time lol

just tell them to send you the screenshots of them doing over 100 during an ice storm so you can share in that "rush"

[umbral cliff]

You only drive 1000 mi a year?

[tidal bronze]

Was not happy to see this

[tidal bronze]

Is that.

[umbral cliff]

That's nothing

[tidal bronze]

I know. Most of my life is at airports and flights

[forest edge]

if I had a nickel for everytime someone asked me if my name had anything to do with that place over the years..

[umbral cliff]

You would have a nickel if that was the case?

[umbral cliff]

Do you have any lifetime status yet

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge you have utmost respect since my favorite restaurant in the world is in Sonoma County.

[tidal bronze]

700k miles to hit 6 million

[umbral cliff]

What airline is that with

[tidal bronze]

Delta

[forest edge]

in-n-out?

[tidal bronze]

https://www.exploretock.com/tfl/

[forest edge]

but it's only 3 stars...

[tidal bronze]

That's it

[umbral cliff]

Does that even give you domestic lounge access with them?
Or is that still something you have to pay more for

[tidal bronze]

Lounge access is from them or Amex. I usually don't use lounges. Get to airport 30 minutes before gate close.

[umbral cliff]

Ah nice glad lifetime status gives you lounge access
Since I know the big american carriers their ff status doesn't give you domestic lounge access lol

[tidal bronze]

I only use lounge access if wife is with me. 5.3 million miles lounges get old 😀

[ocean oar]

Heh, AirNZ is Star Alliance, which means code-share flights in the USA are United. That's... an experience

[umbral cliff]

I use the lounges before travel for the free food/ drink lol
Lifetime lounge status for free with oneworld is pretty nice

[umbral cliff]

To be fair most USA carriers are an experience 😄
At least oneworld gives alaska now too

[ocean oar]

I have been on exactly one Delta flight though (ATL-SAV) and that too was interesting.

[tidal bronze]

The only lounge that interest me is centurion and any lounge in China. Any other, meh

[umbral cliff]

Lounges in china? They're crap

[tidal bronze]

Then you have not to been to made to order ones

[umbral cliff]

Compared to outside of china, they're all crap

Even if made to order

I should try the centurion lounge out in sydney next time I fly overseas
But from what I've seen/heard its worse than the qantas first class lounge

[tidal bronze]

Centurion would be number 1

[blazing musk]

I feel like there's been a decline with Alaska recently though. And I have their card that seems to be the unofficial Seattle credit card...

[umbral cliff]

Nope
Menu seems tiny, alcohol selection crap. Barely even seems to be made to order either

[umbral cliff]

Interesting
Always heard they were one of the better ones

Haven't been to the US since i was 10 so have no real clue other than whats on the internet

[tidal bronze]

@umbral cliff depends on which centurion 😁

[umbral cliff]

The ones in australia
Especially when you compare it to a lounge with expensive champagne, made to order menu thats restaurant quality, and a massage facility, all free
Oh plus being escorted to the gate too

[forest edge]

it shows with some of the shit you have said in the past lol

[blazing musk]

They're still decent, just personally have noticed a lot less friendliness especially in regards to carry-on recently (they've gotten really heavy-handed on getting people's carry-ons tagged for the baggage compartment for some reason) and reductions in service.

[umbral cliff]

I just go by what my friends who live there say

[blazing musk]

Overheard somebody at a restaurant also complaining about reductions in service

[umbral cliff]

Thats weird
I can't say I've ever had hand carry checked at the gate

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzejust goes to show how spoiled you people are https://youtu.be/9zt0fktVYcs?si=-Y7svLvvjN-7C8Rg

how the hell can you live next to the ocean and not be prepared for shit lol

[blazing musk]

It's less stressful for most people to live with their head buried in the sand (until it actually is)

[tidal bronze]

Don't ever worry about us. We will be just fine. You worry about that Houston stuff. 🤣

[forest edge]

why? that houston stuff effects you not me lol

[tidal bronze]

You have no idea how isolated we are.

[forest edge]

sure do, Deltigre was just mentioning about your heads in the sand

[tidal bronze]

2 miles can be a planets apart

I better get some sleep. 4 wineries to get to tomorrow.

[forest edge]

yea don't want to oversleep past your wino adventure

[umbral cliff]

So you'll be drunk and speeding tomorrow?

[tidal bronze]

@umbral cliff my buddies kids will be driving tomorrow after drinks. I am not an animal. 🤣

[umbral cliff]

Kids not wanting to drink?

[tidal bronze]

I think after seeing us they don't want to deal with alcohol, ever 🤣

[blazing musk]

We'll just implement the Clarkson "green flashing light and 10mph" rule

[umbral cliff]

How old are the kids

[tidal bronze]

16 and 18

[blazing musk]

"15 with a hardship license"

[umbral cliff]

Oh yeah I forgot american drinking age is 21
Otherwise that 18yo would've been wanting to drink themselves, or go to clubs or bars

[tidal bronze]

True, they don't want to touch alcohol because of us. 🤣 I feel bad for them

[forest edge]

till they reach of age then they will drink just to be able to deal with you drunks

it'

it's how the machine works.

calfornian right of passage.. hate drinkers till you become one

[tidal bronze]

One kid is a Marine he gets it. Gotta drink just to deal with the old folk drama 🤣

[forest edge]

pretty sure it's to deal with the std invasion

[tidal bronze]

Dude what's with you and STD stuff? You gotta get yourself outside that barn

[forest edge]

not my fault your state is literally KNOWN for it lol

[blazing musk]

If I know anything about Marines it's that they do chew instead.

[tidal bronze]

Speculation son, Speculation!

[forest edge]

https://www.innerbody.com/std-testing/std-statistics-by-state

your not proud of being number 1 in that area as well? whjat gives? rotf

[tidal bronze]

So happy that your spectrum app won't fire up, or else you would be even more misguided

@forest edge one day when you take that greyhound to LA, I will make you a beliiber

[forest edge]

can't drink while wearing a whole body condom just to survive the trip

https://tenor.com/view/fullbody-condoms-gif-19286279

[tidal bronze]

https://shop.erewhonmarket.com/product/7791691000/hailey-biebers-strawberry-glaze-skin-smoothie one of these and you will be cured.

[forest edge]

thought you were going to bed? get distracted by looking up alcoholic drinks you want to guzzle down tomorrow? lol

[tidal bronze]

Trying to.

[red rock]

Me irl

[prisma briar]

God damnit, Microsoft. How the hell did you manage to fuck up notepad this bad

[solar zealot]

notepad? more like small file size logviewer

[clear ferry]

More like Untitled(67).txt

[primal laurel]

notepad++ ftw

[solar zealot]

Meanwhile latex out there being the worst of the worst

[primal laurel]

Skill issue

[glacial knot]

🤔 it's not even an editor

[solar zealot]

Exactly that's part of the issue

I have yet to find anyone who enjoys building arbitrary pipelines to create a pdf which takes minutes to appear while it hard bricks itself when you forgot to escape something anywhere

The math formula stuff is nice tho, can't really argue about that

[primal laurel]

Sure. But it's pretty obvious where it fails so it's easy to fix

[glacial knot]

still the best writing experience for any serious size document with internal references :/

[solar zealot]

Kinda sad that this is still the state of text processing in 23

[glacial knot]

especially when you look into what tex actually is

[primal laurel]

wdym?

[clear ferry]

I should learn LaTeX

My wife is a racer in it

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/latex-suit-blaine-gibson-rooster-gif-4234685703184550848

[primal laurel]

there are many things to like about tex, but it can also be messy and it's hard to become proficient in it

[clear ferry]

Just like any other body suit then

[primal laurel]

body suit?

[prisma briar]

Got my garage heater wired up. :D

[clear ferry]

I just call it my rack

[static schooner]

Bitcoin Thermostat

[clear ferry]

If I only bothered with the crypto bullshit

[iron granite]

(early enough)

[low harness]

It’s actually really good to know a little bit of latex. At least the math formatting pops up everywhere.

Pro tip: most software you use day to day is actually made by Nerds.

That’s why discord parses sed substitution commands.

And microsoft word accepts latex math intead of… whatever you’d call what they have as the standard equation thing…

As did facebook at one point.

[eager herald]

Hi guys, i have a problem i hope somone can help me solve, i am trying to use a "premade" intergration, or maybe not intergration. I have to do some commands in the terminal, but i have stopped upon a little problem, i am new to home assistant so i am very sorry if it is a very easy fix. I need to connect to a heatpump thru the terminal, via a system called "AlsavoCtrl", when i try to execute a command, i have the problem that it comes with this error "zsh: permission denied:"
Does somebody have a easy fix for my probelm? :)

[static schooner]

Please don't cross post

[eager herald]

I am sooo sorry :)

[silent dove]

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[primal laurel]

Agreed. But once you're used to all the features of latex you can't really switch back to word anymore, it's just far too limited

[low harness]

That's the curse of every power user in a corporate world.

But pandoc...

[primal laurel]

only my manager knows what im doing lol

I can pretty much use whatever I want to use

[clear ferry]

Ha

[blazing musk]

I used Google docs' embedded latex to write up a reference guide for my wife's calc finals years ago.

Hey, the instructor said you got one page of notes. They didn't specify what font size...

[solar zealot]

for those of us that dont watch the release streams
has 2024 been confirmed to be ha year of the raccoon yet?

where they add a greyscale theme which looks great on eink displays

and if you have too many entities in one component it will get a trash bin top

[ocean oar]

This but unironically

[solar zealot]

wonder if anyone is using such tab to do that already

[ocean oar]

I've been trying to make "optimised" versions of my dashboards for a 16-shades-of-grey e-ink device (https://shop.boox.com/products/palma), to have as a kind of "remote control".
Actually takes a lot of effort. Most of my smart lights are only CCT rather than RGBW which simplifies things at least, but between slow screen updates (so you want to minimise scrolling if you can, and put as many direct controls on the screen as possible rather than popups) and greyscale display, it's actually a lot of effort to design usable controls

[willow sundial]

I just got done typesetting a book using lualatex. It was an adventure

[red rock]

I'm writing my thesis in latex

[willow sundial]

I used Tex Studio for the editor. What are you using?

[low harness]

I made our wedding invitations in latex.

Then my resumé... and that may have been the last time I used it...

[primal laurel]

Overleaf

[solar zealot]

texmaker for me

[ocean oar]

I wrote a script to generate invoices in LaTeX, and then my job changed us all from contractors to employees so I didn't need it anymore 🤷‍♂️

[solar zealot]

the appeal of overleaf kinda seems like that you dont need to configure as much stuff?

[primal laurel]

Yeah you don't have to install a tool chain

And you can cooperate

[solar zealot]

nice

i to this day dont know why we cant just have it figure itself out

and why running pdflatex twice will fix stuff sometimes

we will never know

a mystery

[remote hornet]

A little off topic but is in the world of DIY: if you wanted to 3D print something but didn't own a 3D printer, how would you do it? Rent makerspace? Ask in a local community?

[umbral cliff]

Third option of you can get someone online to create it for you and ship it (pretty sure a lot of the PCB companies now do 3d printing too)

[prisma briar]

I've ordered 3d prints from jlcpcb before

They were affordable unless you went crazy with them.

I definitely paid less than $10 per part, though they were small parts

[ocean oar]

Also the likes of Shapeways (who've been doing on demand 3d printing for years and years)

Depends what kind of model, and what kind of material you're looking for

[solar zealot]

there seem to be plenty of those services out there. tho i suppose with how inexpensive 3d printers are you may get a better deal out of buying one if you consider doing more than a couple <objects>

alternatively surface-mounted junction boxes make for very inexpensive cases if all you want to do is hide some electronics

in places where no one looks i prefer those just because its faster to get right

[ocean oar]

Yeah, unless you need funky materials (Shapeways' "default" is SLS-printed nylon, which means a machine with a five or more figure pricetag), or small items with extreme detail (SLA resin printers are cheap these days, but messy/stinky), or are in that lots-of-money-but-little-time situation, a mid-priced FDM printer can be quite a useful invention.
But 3D printing has always felt a bit to me like a "when all you have is a hammer" technology; like you say sometimes buying something nearly right off-the-shelf and modifying it is by far the better choice.

[prisma briar]

There's a lot of shapes you can only really create through additive manufacturing and 3D printing things is often cheaper than buying them from a store, plus you can often find designs for what you need pre-made online for free

[solar zealot]

main issue i have with 3d printing is that it isnt like printing an image (on a lot of printers)
so it may fail because of a thousand reasons or wont come out that right or layer shift at random
i see how this can be annoying for when all you need is some part

also autodesk is like 3k a year, so that aint for everyone

[prisma briar]

fusion 360 has a free hobbyist license

[solar zealot]

ill keep that in mind once my edu license runs out

good thing we get two edu email adr

[prisma briar]

I had an edu license for all of autodesk's crap back in like 2008.

[solar zealot]

i mean heck, if it would be a one time payment id probably have no issue with paying those prices

its not like next years version would be totally different

[blazing musk]

Yep, I use it all the time. It has a few hamstrung features but otherwise has been fully capable for creating designs for my resin printer

[blazing musk]

Unfortunately, they only offer continuous licenses as a "cloud" product

[prisma briar]

I haven't really hit any issues with features I wanted being unavailable.

[solar zealot]

🏴‍☠️

[prisma briar]

I know things like fancy cloud rendering aren't there but I don't ever use that

[solar zealot]

which printer do the kool kids buy these days? i heard there are better and faster ones around recently

[prisma briar]

Bambu if you just want it to work, Voron if you want to DIY it in the same price range, or the newest ender 3 releases are actually not horrible.

[blazing musk]

The only "features" I've seen missing are infill patterns and plugins.

There's also the 10 max editable files that forces you to shuffle things around

[prisma briar]

I always export to local .f3d and open those and just ignore the 10 file limit

[blazing musk]

In other news I realized I can boxes.py some electronic component storage I need do with some 1/4" plywood I just have sitting around

[prisma briar]

I have a Bambu P1S and one of the OG Ender 3's for my 3D printers.

[solar zealot]

woah those are about 3x faster than the ender 3v2 i have here

[blazing musk]

I want an X1 but gotta wait

[prisma briar]

The P1S does better quality way faster than my Ender

X1 doesn't really get you a ton of features over a P1S

[solar zealot]

i suppose they come with some web interface (which maybe works with ha)?

[prisma briar]

Automatic flow calibration with some filaments, a touchscreen interface (you'll probably just use the PC app for everything though) and a chamber fan

Yea, all the Bambus have a third-party HA integration

[solar zealot]

splendid

[prisma briar]

I have an automation for mine that changes the color of the light to the currently printing filament color and makes it flash if it hits an error

[solar zealot]

do you have the filament changer addon?

[prisma briar]

Probably the best thing about Bambu is how many sensors the printer has to detect errors before they turn into failures and pause the print to give you a chance to fix them

Yea, I have two

[solar zealot]

can they be set up to switch spools when one runs empty / gets stuck?

[prisma briar]

Yup

[solar zealot]

the future is now

[prisma briar]

Well, when one runs empty yea

it'll pause if one gets stuck

generally

I have had it not notice it got stuck once

[solar zealot]

i am always surprised by how inconsistently those spools get ... spoold

had a couple rolls that had loops near the end and one that was pretty much unusable

all from the same brand

[prisma briar]

Yea, I've had 3 or 4 rolls with tangles in the roll so far

I've probably used the multi filament system on more prints for support material than for additional colors at this point

Support material is a game changer for print quality

It goes a long way too, I got a 500g roll of support material when I got my P1S+AMS combo in September and just ran out yesterday.

Probably put 20 rolls of filament through it in that time

[umbral cliff]

Love my uni giving me an alumni edu email for good
Free discounts

[solar zealot]

i probably saved more money on licenses than i would have paid in total

can recommend

[static schooner]

Forever? <considers what I could have saved over 30 years...>

[prisma briar]

I've been ordering filament from Bambu, refills that go on an empty spool are like $16 with their membership program (I got 6 months free when I got the P1S) and so far I haven't had any weird issues with their filament

My Ender 3 has been solid, too. I did a bunch of upgrades to it like dual z axis with auto gantry leveling and bed leveling and a direct drive and a new hotend and it's damn near at the quality of my P1S now, though only maybe half the speed

[umbral cliff]

Forever is what they say
Obviously with the condition they can remove it whenever they want. The goal is so any research questions can be emailed to your uni email

I just don't have any research so it's discount only lol

[remote hornet]

Is there multiple 'ender 3' models? Or only one?

[umbral cliff]

There are multiple

[static schooner]

Hmmm...

Email Forwarding for Life: Former students who are in good standing with the Institute, have the option of receiving Email Forwarding for Life (EMFL). EMFL does not provide you with a mailbox within the Georgia Tech email system, but it does allow you to keep your Georgia Tech email alias (the @gatech.edu address), which will then forward messages on to any other valid email address.

[solar zealot]

At least three that I am aware of (not including revisions)

But they are easy identifiable

[prisma briar]

There are a lot of Ender models and some of the ones they still make are crap

There's at least 10 now

Of just the Ender 3

They still make the original Ender 3 I think, which would be a terrible purchase these days.

[umbral cliff]

Neat!

[static schooner]

Back then my email address was just [e-mail], so not very interesting, and was also tied to my physical mailbox. I wonder what they would do if I submitted a ticket for the address I 'lost' back in 1997

I had a better one from the college of computing, but that was a subdomain

[ocean oar]

Lucky for some. My university email was god-awful: [e-mail] (xxx 3 letters of surname, yy 2 of first, zzz 3-digit random number).
Wouldn't want to keep using that, even if you could.

[static schooner]

Yeah, there was much annoyance from the student body that we didn't get better usernames

I eventually ran my own mail server on my machine in my dorm room 🙂

[ocean oar]

I guess with the number of people going through those places they have to do something to avoid conflicts

[static schooner]

But then I had a crappy domain. residence.ec50.gatech.edu, as I recall

It was the early days of campus networking

[ocean oar]

Yeah, that wasn't quite a thing in my uni dorm days (2004). No network to rooms, 802.11g was brand new but it's not like more than 1/20 people would have had a device with WiFi anyway. Dial-up still mostly the order of the day, or the "computer lab" in the basement that I'm pretty sure had a 10Mbps fibre link back to the campus, and definitely had a hub on our end, not a switch.

(said computer lab had iMac G3s in it, from memory)

[blazing musk]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-stiller-confused-owen-wilson-dont-know-how-to-use-computer-zoolander-gif-8968881

[ocean oar]

The files are in the computer‽

[gleaming crater]

Man I was going nuts, I'm sitting on my patio and the lights in my office blink on, one at a time, in series and I'm like what the heck and turn them off.... they do it again a bit later and I'm staring to lose my mind.... it was like the 4th time before I realized I had turned off the esphome api connection and they were in a 15 minute reboot loop....

[clear ferry]

The lovely 70s

[primal laurel]

Hi

[clear ferry]

Have you heard about our Lord and saviour Moomus Chrunch?

[young sigil]

Dog 80%

[blissful hull]

https://github.com/kormax/apple-home-key-reader

Did you guys know about this? It is diy homekey solution.

[forest edge]

course not, everyone here actively avoids anything apple for good reasons

[young sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/burned-food-wtf-gif-22978287

[primal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/robocop-comply-you-now-have15secons-to-comply-gif-11880617

[umbral cliff]

Just don't use HP+

Simple

[primal laurel]

but what about my benefits!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[glacial knot]

my former colleague swears by it
print volume is low enough that he never buys ink anymore

but it's a very specific niche of print volume for that to work

[umbral cliff]

15 pages a year isn't it
For the free tier

[glacial knot]

might be? I didn't look too far into it

[umbral cliff]

Pretty sure it's something like that

Not bad if that's all you do

[glacial knot]

My print volume is pretty low
I think this year I printed the ticket and running order for Summer Breeze
2 pages of some exam guides
and that's about it

[umbral cliff]

Yeah I only ever really scan
And the odd print

My HP printer has been great for that. Few years since needing ink, and scan to email through my own IMAP stuff is great

[glacial knot]

jup. I mainly got my scan/printer to scan

[primal laurel]

I don't even have a printer anymore

[glacial knot]

Technically I don't need one
I can just print in the office

[red rock]

I just VPN to home and scare the crap out of my parents

[solar zealot]

ink printers in the age of toner ones

[glacial knot]

at incredibly low print volumes?

[umbral cliff]

Happy new year all!!

[primal laurel]

liar!!

[umbral cliff]

No lie! 😂

[glacial knot]

why is it past noon already? o.0

[clear ferry]

Only things I print are confidentiality agreements and us bank stuff

[umbral cliff]

Only stuff I print are documents I want to then scribble on
Personal documents at home that is

[umbral cliff]

Silly 24hr time person

[glacial knot]

Do your days have a different amount of hours?

[glacial knot]

Just get a tablet with pen

[clear ferry]

I do love my remarkable

[glacial knot]

My colleague loves the remarkable

#NotAnAd

[clear ferry]

It's the best purchase I've done in years

Bought it used so it was half price

Great for ひらがな too

[glacial knot]

What about 漢字?

[clear ferry]

You know kanji is my weakness

[glacial knot]

The singular weakness you have

[umbral cliff]

No
I just like doing am/pm lol

[umbral cliff]

I hate that, I do have an iPad already
But when it comes to scribbling, nothing beats actual paper and fountain pen

[solar zealot]

It's not like it can dry out and ruin everything

[clear ferry]

Remarkable is actually better than paper, when I remove something it is gone

No latency

Streaming screen

Local storage

[umbral cliff]

Yeah but nothing for me beats using a fountain pen on paper

[clear ferry]

this guy aristocrats

[umbral cliff]

Fountain pens are cheap

[glacial knot]

Fountain pen 🤢

[umbral cliff]

As a leftie they write better than a lot of other pens lol

[glacial knot]

You don't have to write with the left hand, just because you drive on the wrong side of the road 😄

[clear ferry]

I can write with fountain pen on the remarkable too, which is my favourite pen

[umbral cliff]

Doesn't that have to be a special pen though
Not just a generic fountain

[clear ferry]

no, I switch between virtual pens

and the physical one behaves differently

[umbral cliff]

I'll take notes on my iPad
But to me, nothing really beats scribbling on random pieces of paper (it's the feel of paper that does it for me)

[glacial knot]

oh god, reminds me of the paper nerds we had

[clear ferry]

good thing the remarkable screen feels like paper

[umbral cliff]

You can scrunch it up like paper too? 😛

[clear ferry]

by pressing the correct button, sure

https://tenor.com/bXyap.gif

[umbral cliff]

Still more expensive than paper
For little benefit

I'm old school there lol

Though it does look good I will admit

Just AU$1000 is a bit steep if you want a folio and a pen

[clear ferry]

can't stream a piece of paper to a teams meeting, nor send the paper to your collegues by email, and you can't read pdfs an do annotations on paper

I paid AUD505 for the pad + 2 cover + 2 pens + 10 tips

and since one of the marketing managers at remarkable has a kid in my kindergarten I need to nag him about more linux development

[umbral cliff]

I can print a PDF and annotate on paper though 😛
Plus to stream to a teams meeting requires people using teams

[umbral cliff]

Where?

[clear ferry]

used on our version of ebay

[umbral cliff]

Ah

[clear ferry]

www.rooshop.au

[umbral cliff]

Makes sense

[clear ferry]

or whatever you have

www.putitonthebarbie.au

[umbral cliff]

We just use ebay or gumtree

[glacial knot]

the new price is 565AUD in the official shop o.0

350€

[umbral cliff]

Yep

Though did find one selling for AU$600 with tablet and pen and folio on gumtree

ATX i blame you for making me want to spend money

[clear ferry]

It's my special gift

[copper kindle]

How many messages until #matter-archived is renamed #nanoleaf_firmware_betatesting ? 😅

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-days-since-last-accident-accident-days-since-days-from-gif-13572167

[clear ferry]

moving to debian testing

https://tenor.com/7xdm.gif

[agile shell]

A Happy New Year from Japan!
UTC+9

[gleaming crater]

Given how almost no stable packages are current version of anything I’m not surprised

[clear ferry]

domo arigatou @agile shell

[gleaming crater]

Tho why not be like the rest of us and just inject test packages into a stable system lol

[clear ferry]

hey hey hey

I would never run HAOS

[gleaming crater]

lol same here

One of these days I’m going to finally move off supervised installer and just run HA docker

Too much surface area in the supervisor to worry about

[clear ferry]

disgusting

you sir

are a horrible person

[glacial knot]

just run it in k8s and be happy

[clear ferry]

this guy kubes

[gleaming crater]

lol that’s my plan

[glacial knot]

🥳

[gleaming crater]

When I get around to it lol

Loooots of services to migrate

[primal laurel]

HAOS my baby

[clear ferry]

I should get a hold of 3x RL300 systems and run a kube cluster

https://tenor.com/7v3W.gif

[gleaming crater]

Nasty

[glacial knot]

it's not entirely up to date, but that's my setup https://github.com/Ongy/edge-k8s/blob/main/charts/smarthome/homeassistant.yaml

[gleaming crater]

The problem is moving my stack off supervised feels like work lol

[clear ferry]

it really isn't

its just folder mapping

and a compose file

[glacial knot]

I need to add my raspi I have laying around to the cluster
so I can add it as satellite for the voice stuff

[gleaming crater]

Tell that to my pile of addons

[clear ferry]

yes

I am

those are just containers

and files

[gleaming crater]

Also known as docker containers on a super short leash

[clear ferry]

you can pre-configure everything and spin it up on docker with less than 30s downtime

[gleaming crater]

Besides moving multiple dongles and all the integrations that configured to internal addresses

Which apparently I’ve got like 20 addons and over a hundred integrations heh

[primal laurel]

please dont start talking about high availability again

https://tenor.com/view/gioated-family-guy-peter-griffin-crazy-straightjacket-gif-20619219

[gleaming crater]

Hahah

Is there even a good HA solution for USB dongles?

[glacial knot]

Have multiple and some dynamic fail over

[gleaming crater]

How do I have a backup zwave/zigbee stick

There is data on the stick about the network

[prisma briar]

You can back that data up and restore it to another stick

[gleaming crater]

lol that’s not HA

[glacial knot]

Not on mine

[prisma briar]

Restore it to two sticks, have the second stick come online if the first goes offline?

You have two devices that'll do the job, just apply basic HA to it

[gleaming crater]

Hmm keeping them up to date when changes happen sound fun

[prisma briar]

That's more of syncing Z2M/ZHA than syncing the dongles themselves

[primal laurel]

it has no practical value, just fun to setup for sysadmins I guess

[glacial knot]

yea, that's the advantage of the otherwise not great CC sticks. They don't have any persistent data on the stick
so it's enough to have the z2m directory on NFS

[gleaming crater]

You’d need some way to only power up the stick on failover too

Or your network would lose its shit

[glacial knot]

k8s takes care of that for me

[prisma briar]

That's really easy

[glacial knot]

makes sure there's exactly one instance of z2m running

[prisma briar]

Set up some basic clustering monitor like corosync, make the primary zigbee controller shoot itself if it loses quorum, make the secondary take over if it has quorum and the primary is gone.

Really basic clustering

[gleaming crater]

I just always figured the handcuff is hardware

Some zigbee sticks had a battery and could run the network u unplugged

[prisma briar]

You'd need to get sticks compatible with a setup like this if you don't have them

[gleaming crater]

At least it’s not a license dongle issue, I had a job where our product had to go thru vendor software and it was basically a single point of failure because the clients wouldn’t even talk to a 2nd one

[prisma briar]

Heh, I've yet to hit one of those.

[gleaming crater]

And then they’re like “you can go dongle free just do the internet check version” but they acted like I grew another set of eyes when I asked what their SLA was

[prisma briar]

Datacenter-level applications don't do that nonsense.

[gleaming crater]

This was ecg analysis software

For an ecg monitor patch

[prisma briar]

Hospital IT is another world from everything I've heard.

[gleaming crater]

Oh for sure

My favorite saying was “hospital IT is where careers go to die”

Dealing with them was so painful

Anyone good gets out

[prisma briar]

I considered getting a HIPPA certification at one point so I could go into hospital IT, I've heard it pays well, but it just sounds like such an awful working environment.

[gleaming crater]

lol most hospitals HIPAA certify employees with a 1hr PowerPoint

[glacial knot]

Hippo certification D:

[gleaming crater]

HIPAA is a joke anyway

“Sign this and you can see everything “

[prisma briar]

I saw free HIPPA courses a couple times when I was still in school

"courses" being like a single afternoon class

[glacial knot]

Make sure you get sued, not us

[gleaming crater]

The real deal is getting your org HITRUST or FEDRamp certified

[prisma briar]

But the community college I went to also had a huge nursing school attached so that's probably why they had the hippa crap.

[gleaming crater]

It’s usually just an education course on what the law actually is

I’ve had to help administer systems to ensure employe compliance

[prisma briar]

Probably caught you watching BBC without paying a TV license with one of their magical vans.

[gleaming crater]

Tho you wanna know the dirty secret is the medical insurance industry barely cares about your privacy

I had a friend who worked for an insurance exchange and basically ran screaming from the building it was so bad behind the scenes

[iron granite]

I just get calls from EUROPOL - with a heavy indian accent

[glacial knot]

Was your windows infected by a virus?

[iron granite]

No, my credit card has been (mis)used for illegal stuff

And I was asked to press 1 to talk to an EUROPOL agent

[blazing musk]

I'm just imagining Apu telling me I've been looking at illegal porn

[prisma briar]

"Hello, I have hacked your webcam"

[static schooner]

Please don't come again

[red rock]

I know a lot of hindi swear words

So

The moment one of them ever calls me and tries to scam me, I'll disgrace their whole family

[clear ferry]

Yuck, usb, do ethernet and poe

[prisma briar]

ethernet + poe for a zigbee dongle sounds annoying

[clear ferry]

I've deployed two of Norways biggest digital hospitals, great fun, 25000 switch ports and 1500 APs on the latest one

[prisma briar]

Also like it would just add points of failure

[clear ferry]

Mine just runs and runs

For years, it had a chip defect and burned out the esp, but tube replaced it free of charge

And I have three other dongles for lab and backup

[prisma briar]

I really wish you could do two controllers on one zigbee network

[clear ferry]

You can eventually when ZigBee and matter merge

But I'm not bothered, I've had 2h downtime in 6 years

[prisma briar]

I'm hoping my uptime is higher now that I'm off of the conbee and I updated to 12.4 to get away from that zha bug

https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/105445 This was annoying

ofc I updated HA before I installed my new Sonoff controller so I thought the sonoff controller was causing it until I found that a couple days ago

[static schooner]

I feel like a digital hospital is where you bring sick electronic equipment

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-voyager-dr-incredulous-gif-6118871

The Emergency Medical Hologram works there.
"Please state the nature of the medical emergency!"

[clear ferry]

That would just be a dell server farm then

[static schooner]

https://www.threads.net/@gtconway3dg/post/C1hj_O1upJ1/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

[prisma briar]

ha ate my automation

[silent dove]

@prisma briar I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[iron granite]

The raccoon aerobics session

[static schooner]

I like when one stops and the other goes for a bit longer and then convinces the other to try again

https://tenor.com/view/you-can-gif-27326947

[ocean oar]

Checks out

[orchid rose]

what are the differences?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-the-same-picture-the-office-pam-the-office-us-gif-20757621

[orchid rose]

Happy 2024 everyone! 🎉

[solar zealot]

Anyone got those ZigBee connected fireworks this year?

tuya doesnt count

[clear ferry]

Damn finns, one hour ahead and beautiful girls, perkele

[clear ferry]

Excuse me wtf

[ocean oar]

Hahaha, +1 to that reaction

[iron granite]

Hue Sparkle and IKEA BIGBØM

[vale robin]

<@&330946878646517761> I clicked a sus link and some script posted links in every channel or every server I was in, understandably I was banned from alotttt of servers.
I’ve since changed password and set up 2fa would it be possible to have the ban lifted from my main account pretty please? It won’t happen again now with 2fa
Main account: @vale robinR

[primal laurel]

I think my neighbours might have more money than me!

Happy new year 🎊

[orchid rose]

I wanted to take my drone out but it was waaaaay too cold so I just stayed inside instead sipping a warm cup of tea instead

[static schooner]

I went ahead and unbanned you

[forest edge]

this channel needs the bot to like announce when it turns midnight on new years eve for everyone

[static schooner]

The only one that matters is in ~8 hours. I'll announce it

[orchid rose]

Sonoma just jelly that the US is once again left behind

[static schooner]

We're waiting to see if it's worth it. How's 2024 so far?

[solar zealot]

Quite well

[orchid rose]

Dark and cold

[solar zealot]

An hour in and yet none of my issues have disappeared

[static schooner]

Letting you guys be guinea pigs

[solar zealot]

Sadly I can't RMA a year after I opened it

[static schooner]

I can still refuse delivery

[forest edge]

just want to make sure those who experience the end of the world before us that can still talk share their experiences

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/legion2010-legion-horror-movie-movie-angels-of-death-gif-24194827

[solar zealot]

If anything would happen we could ask the later people to start with a debugger attached

[static schooner]

Otherwise need a Time Machine to repro

[vale robin]

Thanks man, I appreciate that. ❤️

[blazing musk]

Asking for somebody else, anybody have recs for a business that makes neon-style LED signs?

[young sigil]

Where in the world might help.

[gleaming crater]

I know you can build your own with cheap led matrix panels and LedFx software pretty cheap

They just added animated gif support lol

[blazing musk]

I know, I'm not building it for myself though, it's for somebody in another chat

[red rock]

Wet

[primal laurel]

the good kind or the bad

[red rock]

The bad

I forgot there was a good kind

[static schooner]

A wet 2024 would be good here

[static schooner]

Wentworth on Netflix is a great source of Australian terminology. Brawler (van), lag/lagger (informer), shifter (adjustable wrench), gear (drugs), etc. It's another world 🙂

Bub (baby)

Super (government pension-like thing)

They also drive on the left side of the road like a oppressed former British colony 🙂

Guv'nor is delightful as the head of a prison

[umbral cliff]

Not government. Just mandated that your employer has to pay 11% (legal minimum) or more of your income into a fund you choose, the 11% is on-top of whatever you make (so make 1000 in a pay period, 110 has to be paid into your super fund)

[static schooner]

a "superfund" here is a usually a place so laden with toxic chemicals that they need government funding over decades to clean it up 🙂

[umbral cliff]

Lmao

[static schooner]

but yeah, I just read the wikipedia article on the Superannuation

[umbral cliff]

Super is just a way to ensure everyone has retirement funds

Oh your super fund invests the money too, usually you can select what areas they invest in, so your money goes up and becomes a nice tidy retirement amount

[static schooner]

sounds like a mandated 401(k) here

[umbral cliff]

From what I've heard it's similar to that, just better thought you

*out

[static schooner]

not really like Social Security

[umbral cliff]

We have an actual pension which is part of the welfare system
Max Income and asset tests for that scheme too though

[static schooner]

that's more like Social Security, but there isn't (any?) means or need testing for it

but based on capped max earnings

anyway, fun bit of terminology that I hadn't heard before

[static schooner]

Oi!

[clear ferry]

That sounds like norwegian pension

State sets off 5.7% of your yearly income to pension, plus employer sets off a maximum of 7% of your yearly income

then you save whatever you want yourself

[clear ferry]

I wish someone would make a wrapper like nala for docker-compose

to show to \ from when doing pulls etc

[solar zealot]

The raccoons seem a bit buggy this year

[rough tangle]

Happy new year all, what is the process to initiate account deletion for community forums and all related posts for a given user? I could not find anything on the website

[solar zealot]

Id try contacting the support over their means of contact

[rough tangle]

You mean emailing to [e-mail] which is under Contact link

[solar zealot]

If it's listed there then yes

[rough tangle]

Let's see thanks

[clear ferry]

is the rpi5 actually a downgrade from a rpi4 ?

Please AVOID Rapsberry Pi 5 for Jellyfin. The Raspberry Pi 5 lacks hardware encoders altogether. The Raspberry Pi Foundation has also not responded to requests for official comment from the Jellyfin team.

[glacial knot]

oh yea, they did mess with the encoders in weird ways

I think even the decoders are worse

[red rock]

I thought they announced it with 4K native encoding

[glacial knot]

HEVC only. and iirc. there's some license shenanigans

oh, I think that's only decoder as well. No encoder at all? 🤔
they aren't great about their specification :/

[clear ferry]

gotta hide it so the people that know what to look for can't tell the sheeple that the product is scheiße

[solar zealot]

that sounds like a very German thing to say

But yea buying a pi is pretty undesirable

[primal laurel]

why would you even run a media server on a pi? It doesn't have the processing capabilities to stream properly

that's probably why they removed the encoders

[glacial knot]

the 4 works fine, if the media can be both de and encoded in hardware

[primal laurel]

I think there's just better purpose hardware for the job

[glacial knot]

certainly
but people tend to have a raspi around

since they tried to do something interesting with it and realized it's not really good D:

[primal laurel]

I think many of you should do a course in microprocessor programming to see how far 'not very good' can get you if you know what you're doing 😛

[glacial knot]

I don't think I've seen anyone try to actually do that on a raspi
instead of slapping linux on top because it's powerful enough to run a proper OS

but then annoying enough to not be useful

especially with their slightly off drivers. Even more broken in 64bit mode on the raspi4

[primal laurel]

doesn't seem to bother most of the world using them

perhaps it's a user problem

[glacial knot]

🤷 we got upstream confirmation and promises for some of the issues we ran into

[primal laurel]

that's not uncommon

[clear ferry]

Promises

As good as hopes and prayers

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze did you make it through new years? or did the kale juice and grass clipping send you to the hospital to have your stomach pumped?

[blazing musk]

I just run my home server on a NUC

rpi has its applications but media server is pushing it

[willow sundial]

I gave up on the htpc game and have an Nvidia Shield

[orchid rose]

[blazing musk]

I'm using Plex, which has an app for pretty much everything, including my LG Smart TVs

[solar zealot]

Which is a paid feature for mobile devices

[primal laurel]

Plex has so many issues, I am looking into jellyfin as well

[prisma briar]

There's an RTOS for Pis. A project to emulate an MT-32 uses it.

https://github.com/dwhinham/mt32-pi

I believe there's also a version of bare metal Python for it too

[blazing musk]

Yeah but I paid the lifetime license on sale last year

[prisma briar]

https://github.com/rsta2/circle

[solar zealot]

Unfortunate for those that do not have such

[willow sundial]

You can get close with jellyfin and wg-easy for free

[willow sundial]

Jellyfin crashes a lot for me but it could be my setup

[willow sundial]

I hate smart TVs.. too many ads

[glacial knot]

plex constantly crashed for me
Only crash I've seen with jellyfin was when I ran out of ram for other reasons D:

[willow sundial]

It's running on my nas and I only have 32gb of RAM shared by 50 web apps

Maybe I should build an app server

[primal laurel]

My ds918+ with 16gb ram runs my Plex server atm

There aren't any crashes

[solar zealot]

Yes pretty much

Works pretty fine for me so far

[blazing musk]

Agreed but Adguard helps a bit

My Roku is worse for ads honestly

[solar zealot]

worse than loading ad overlays while disabling the remote during that time?

[willow sundial]

Some days I want to cancel all my streaming services and just borrow DVDs from the library

[primal laurel]

I have gone 100% up the high seas since streaming services started attacking their own customers

arrrrrrrrrrrrr

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-i-dont-want-to-be-a-pirate-seinfield-gif-15065166

[solar zealot]

if ssds would fricking finally come up in capacity

that would be so great

[blazing musk]

I think we're supposed to see 2-4T soon?

Silly since I have a 1T microsd

[solar zealot]

different kinda memory but yea

no i dont want to buy qlc for the same price just so i can get no more capacity than before

just finally make it 3.5" and call it a day

[upper apex]

Anyone have any experience with this? Or anything similiar?

http://www.fail2ban.org/

[solar zealot]

yes

thats a pretty standard tool

[upper apex]

so I asusme all traffic has to route through it?

otherwise how does it acutally block/ban

[prisma briar]

iptables/nftables

It watches log files

for failed login attempts

[upper apex]

ahh so does it only work with supported apps?

[prisma briar]

You can make your own log parsers easily too

[upper apex]

hmm may have some digging to do

newish to nginx and have a few things opened up now

all use https

so was wanting to protect against brute password attacks

[prisma briar]

Don't open services to the world. Host a VPN and put them behind that.

A VPN is designed for that and audited with that in mind, things like HA or CouchPotato aren't.

Nobody bothers trying to brute force cert based VPNs either

[upper apex]

what about something like HA

dont want to have to be connected to a VPN just to be able to access HA all the time

[prisma briar]

Exposing something like HA to the internet is, imo, wildly insecure and I would personally never consider it. I know some features require it, I forego those features.

Opinions will differ, but that's mine.

[upper apex]

Also what would it look like from the attackers side.. if they "hacked" into a self hosted app, something like "Radarr"

Its running in a docker container its its network is in "host" mode

Would they really have access to much?

[prisma briar]

Free host to proxy future attacks through

[upper apex]

I mean makes sense

[prisma briar]

Things like CouchPotato getting hacked and the hackers wiping peoples libraries have happened too

Just to be dicks

[upper apex]

Is there a way with something like Nginx Proxy Manger to setup a reverse proxy but not allow it outside the network

so atleast I can use A Names or whatever they are called vs usings IPs and ports?

[upper apex]

ooof

[prisma briar]

Nginx can do that, never tried nginx proxy manager. You can also just not open the port to the internet and point your A records to internal IPs

[upper apex]

well only ports I have opened are 80 and 443

but as soon as I add the reverse proxy in NPM it opens it up outside my network as well

[prisma briar]

I might be more willing to open HA to the internet if it wasn't controlling anything important but I have my HA install controlling doors/locks, water pumps, heaters, and 3d printers that all could cause serious issues if they were misused.

I could probably start a fire from my HA

[upper apex]

I mean I guess i can just always have my phone connected to a vpn

not the worse thing running my phone through my custom dns and all

[blazing musk]

Yeah I'm not a fan of connecting physical security to the internet. Reading state is okay.

[solar zealot]

is this usb pd people talk about?

[low harness]

https://www.printables.com/model/88128-garden-hose-to-hdmi-adapter

[static schooner]

Too big. I just use an adapter

[young sigil]

Definitely non standard. It allows connection of over 20m of hose for Cat 1 & 2 HDMI.

[primal laurel]

special connector for apple users only

[solar zealot]

probably for real™️thread™️

or was it matter, i never remember

[static schooner]

This is what happens when the EU tries to mandate a common plug

[solar zealot]

Well that's how we got cee

They just don't like those on smartphones I think

[umbral cliff]

Ive noticed quite a few issues with jellyfin. Mainly on their app support for devices.
Fine on a local network, but when streaming over the internet I have noticed some issues

[solar zealot]

is that something to take as a hit for it not leaking data to third parties all over the place

[primal laurel]

hmm interesting. Tried over vpn?

that would be my main usecase, besides locally

[primal laurel]

USB-C ❤️

[static schooner]

Good thing it wasn't 'garden hose'

[umbral cliff]

Yeah. It's not the connecting part that's the problem, works fine over VPN or over open internet

It's just the speed of the connection, had some issues when it needed to transcode. It tried to force full quality 80+Mbps on a <50mbps link

[solar zealot]

I mean that's not a jellyfin issue then is it

[umbral cliff]

Plex worked fine transcoding

Thus I say jellyfin issue

Jellyfin just didn't want to do transcoding at all

[solar zealot]

That makes more sense. Thought you tried pushing 80mbps over a 50mbps link...

I strongly doubt that there is a lot more magic going on. It should just be ffmpeg below

[umbral cliff]

No I'm not stupid lol

I did do primary school maths and learning what number is bigger 😋

[umbral cliff]

Yeah. Might also be the app for jellyfin I have to use on apple tv too
Since there's no actual jellyfin app, have to use swiftfin for it

[glacial knot]

Sreaming over internet works well over http3. With http2 it was a bit too latency sensitive IME

[solar zealot]

Can't be sure with users gefingerpoken around computers

[clear ferry]

why didn't anyone post the original etherkiller

I've made one of these

and used it

great fun

Never tried the paralell model

Also, the top one is what the passive poe bullshit that unifi does feels like

[ocean oar]

Lol. I'm glad there is someone else out there who hates passive PoE as much as I do

[clear ferry]

I distribute hate equally

if the company name starts with U at least

[umbral cliff]

United airlines?
Unilever?
UPS?
USPS?

[clear ferry]

I do not enjoy any of those no

[glacial knot]

Are there any good ones with an U?

[clear ferry]

Probably not

Just look at the United States

Uganda isn't great either

I hear Utrecht isn't great

There was a ridicilous amount of german cities starting with U

https://www.mygermancity.com/german-cities-u

[glacial knot]

Old Ubisoft maybe

[ocean oar]

Uline (the packaging company)? I hear they're pretty controversial?

[clear ferry]

So we all agree, U is horrible

[red rock]

What's wrong with PoE?

[clear ferry]

Nothing with PoE

But Passive PoE

We forgot all about Umbrella Corporation too

🤔

[red rock]

What's passive PoE?

[clear ferry]

A horrible shitty implementation of PoE

"oh, we have no idea what is in the other end, oh well let's fire up all unused pairs with 24v"

what could go wrong

https://tenor.com/bntqn.gif

[ocean oar]

It actually gets better than that too. Because it also - by its design - makes the receiving device worse. I found this out when I plugged one of their dual-mode devices (a US-8) into a 4-pair 802.3bt port.
Seems like there's no isolation between the (fortunately 48V passive) mode-B side of the power supply and the 802.3 mode-A side. So the switch saw it as a short and turned the port off.

[red rock]

lol

[ocean oar]

I don't know what would happen if you had one of the handful of 802.3af/24V devices they released. Fortunately didn't break anything with the 802.3af/48V one at least.

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/bBHNj.gif

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/xLnU.gif

[blazing musk]

You know what's funny is I didn't realize active PoE existed so I manually disabled PoE on my MikroTik APs 🤣

[clear ferry]

Lol wtf

_yeah, I've never heard of starvation before, so I just kept on eating _

[blazing musk]

I didn't need PoE and I wasn't wanting to accidentally zap anything.

[prisma briar]

Passive PoE does have the advantage of you can power a passive PoE device by hacking a 48v power supply you may already have to an ethernet cable you probably already have.

I don't use it anymore but somewhere I have an absurd 48v 3a power supply wired to an ethernet cable

[static schooner]

Ubiquiti goes the extra yard with 24v passive PoE, so good luck with that 🙂

It's pretty much fire and equipment damage if you use anything other than their equipment for that generation

[red rock]

My phone found a new feature

A train just arrived on the platform across me

And it showed 7 popups of "do you want to connect to this Bluetooth device?"

All earbuds or headsets

[static schooner]

I'll bet they all like metal

might as well test that theory

[junior forge]

Man, so sad to see Tom Scott stopping

[red rock]

Baby shark moment

[red rock]

Oh right that's true

I forgot

[primal laurel]

Yeah 😦 I'm sure he will do other cool stuff though

[primal laurel]

Getting a new phone tomorrow

Nothing phone 2

[red rock]

Oh nice

I got the 1

[primal laurel]

Nice

[primal laurel]

And Rohan will attempt to login

[prisma briar]

📯

[gleaming crater]

Who needs to figure out regex anymore if chatgpt will just write it for you??

[prisma briar]

Knowing regex has significantly helped me.

[gleaming crater]

Oh I know, I just almost always have to look at a reference still

And it always comes out like line noise haha

[prisma briar]

I wouldn't really trust chatgpt to get regex right to the point you'd be able to get away with using it without knowing it

Too many odd scenarios it could screw up

[gleaming crater]

Oh totally

It was suuuuuper explanatory of every bit it used which is helpful.

I was just banging my head trying to write a regex to pull info out of a badly written integration

[primal laurel]

There are text models specifically written for regex

They are very good

[gleaming crater]

Interesting

[primal laurel]

I never write a regex myself anymore tbh

[gleaming crater]

LOL

[prisma briar]

I still couldn't imagine using regex from an AI without at least being able to understand what it does to verify it's sane

[gleaming crater]

I mean in this case it's just so I can display a text value to myself, I'll know if it's b0rked lol

[primal laurel]

I create a bunch of test cases to see if it's valid

[gleaming crater]

You can even ask it to generate test cases for you lol

[primal laurel]

Chatgpt is good at that

Copilot as well

[gleaming crater]

Yeah in gpt4 code mode it's pretty good about generating test cases unprompted to verify it's own code

[red rock]

I read GPT4 god mode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnN6eBamwj4

[ocean oar]

https://jimbly.github.io/regex-crossword/
^^ this'll teach you regular expressions pretty quick 😉

[solar zealot]

me who just uses regex101 to debug it

[red rock]

LOL

[gleaming crater]

Okay satan

[willow sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/axe-army-of-darkness-ash-evil-dead-trick-gif-18841090

[gleaming crater]

It’s like they could have made it square but as an extra fuck you they went for hexagonal

[primal laurel]

I was testing this: https://regex.ai/

[gleaming crater]

I hope yall are ready to go back to trade school when the robots take our computer jobs

[static schooner]

We'll maintain the robots

[gleaming crater]

Naw they just need api access

[primal laurel]

That's been a common saying since the industrial revolution. Yet there have never been more jobs. Its almost like technology creates more jobs 😂

[gleaming crater]

Yeah just get really good at writing chat gpt prompts lol

[primal laurel]

Chatgpt is an idiot

Real artificial intelligence is yet to come

[gleaming crater]

Oh I totally agree

It’s just spicy autocomplete right now

Tho supposedly they’re finally teaching these models how to do math

[glacial knot]

Physical robots are still pretty hard to integrate with AI

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze hmm no reply to my last question. hope it's just indigestion from your crappy food choices keeping ya off discord.

[loud crypt]

question: My ISP still hand out their crAp routers and I will replace this with an industrial server/firewall type but in the mean time is it possible to disable the DHCP and have HA take over?

[umbral cliff]

That depends entirely on whether your ISP router supports disabling dhcp

Which given you have provided no information we have no clue

[clear ferry]

Have... Ha take over as a router?

[umbral cliff]

Lol
Some people like to live on the edge
Probably running on a pi with an SD card and HAOS too

[clear ferry]

Disgusting

I'd say you are better off with whatever you have

And you can install opnsense on any x86 box from the last decade and do symmetrical gigabit

[x] two nics

That'll do donkey

[umbral cliff]

Can do more than gigabit too I bet

[clear ferry]

Depending on box yes

[clear ferry]

I probably have one that can do 40

[umbral cliff]

Yeah so there's an option right there

I would say the sky box is miles better than using ha as your dhcp server

[clear ferry]

There is no advantage to having ha distribute your ips

[umbral cliff]

Won't improve network speeds either though

Since the sky box will still be a router

[loud crypt]

@umbral cliff ty

only issue im facing is having the HA add adguard and other dhcp request tools

sky is difficult is accepting these things

[clear ferry]

What happens inside your network has little to do with the sky box

Just do DNS overrides or change the distributed DNS in the existing scope

If possible

[loud crypt]

ok, will try this after my run. Wife nagging me to hurry up and its even more frustrating explaining all this to her cos she dont understand...all i get is "HURRY UP!"

be back later with more questions if thats ok

[umbral cliff]

Most ISP routers will allow you changing the assigned DNS server

Otherwise setting it manually in devices is also a solution

[mint copper]

hey, i hope someone can help me with a Raspberry Pi problem. beforehand: i am not deep into linux, so talk to me like im stupid
i have a raspberry pi and installed x11vnc-server on it so I can get remote access.
from my windows machine i use realvnc vncviewer trying to get onto it, but I get the error message that the connection is being block.
on other Pis I have it works, they run on buster). this new one runs on bookworm.
when opening x11vnc on the pi and setting the port (standard is 5900) im being told it doenst work and maybe something is listening on that port already. but i cant figure out what and cant see anything.

[clear ferry]

Realvnc uses a proprietary protocol and needs client and server to use the same client, other clients don't

Is my experience

That said ,having a gui on a raspberry pi is just waste of resources

Manage it with ssh

Unless it is a kitchen display or something, then use a dedicated browser os

[mint copper]

well we kinda need the gui, we are using those as sort of kiosk pcs to display certain websites

[clear ferry]

Then use a dedicated os for that, that lets you specify web sites in a text file

And it will cycle through then based on your requested interval

[mint copper]

well the admins before me set that up, so im just trying to maintain it and wanted to upgrade to bookworm now.
do you know any dedicated OS for that? might give that one a try and roll it out if it works

[clear ferry]

I use fullpageos

There are others

With different features

[mint copper]

okay, i need it kinda basic: show me a website, refresh it every X minutes and switch through tabs every x seconds. but that i currently do with add-ons

[clear ferry]

Yeah there are multiple kiosk images that do that

Easier to maintain than a full os

https://open.spotify.com/track/0bKs1y9PTFBddM9qj0JGvb?si=M05hhv96T0CYCcAYiwLZ1A

[prisma briar]

Only RPi users could imagine a distro dedicated to cycling through webpages

[primal laurel]

what OS do you think those media browsers are running in big stores?

[red rock]

Windows 95

98 tops

[clear ferry]

a lot of them run windows ce to be fair

[prisma briar]

Not some random off the shelf RPi distro, that's for sure

Not RPis at all, I'd wager.

Having managed screens around office buildings we used Chrome in kiosk mode loaded to a webpage that cycled between a few pages that various departments could update. I have a similar setup at home for my security camera monitor, just with video tags and Firefox instead of iframes and Chrome.

The ones at work we just used Windows 7 set to auto login to a heavily restricted user and auto run chrome on boot, my one at home is an lxc container running Firefox with access to my physical gpu so it can run X and decode video too

[glacial knot]

some of them run VDI distros. I used to work on one o.0

[clear ferry]

Yeah, I've seen VDI versions too

that just do HDMI extenders

with a muxer of sorts between

[primal laurel]

I worked at a company that sold exactly that

it had some more advanced features though

[prisma briar]

idk, I guess I've always had a management style of starting with a clean mainstream distro and customizing it in config afterwards with something like Salt or GPO.

[clear ferry]

I remember installing some stock systems in 2008, 9 display workstation blade with low latency networking

fun stuff

[last cedar]

You have a strange definition of fun

[prisma briar]

Stock market IT always seemed detached from normal IT

Very latency focused

[last cedar]

I find high latency networking more fun

[glacial knot]

I never set it up myself, but we had customers that did D: had some of the dumber suppor tickets

[clear ferry]

I do enjoy a lot of stuff other hate, like poking indian outsourcing companies, involving management to get stuff fixed and troubleshooting firmware issues that affect thousands of users @last cedar

I might have a mental disorder

or five

or 25

[prisma briar]

Oh yea, I'd love to work on some crazy project like drilling a fiber cable through a mountain to give some jackass stock broker 8ms lower travel to a datacenter

[primal laurel]

the extremely low time to market for anything RPI based is very interesting for many small companies

[clear ferry]

I'm deploying a 500 node Omni-path network soon, that'll be fun

[last cedar]

25 is at least close, I think

[clear ferry]

add a 0 ?

[prisma briar]

I wasn't personally involved with any of it but I've worked at two places that have trialed RPis three times between them. Every time we ran into hardware reliability issues that led to us going to x86 thin clients.

[clear ferry]

rpi makes no sense outside of very strange industrial low power stuff

[last cedar]

And running ha on an sd card, of course

Just to annoy you

[primal laurel]

I worked on the electrical engineering/prototyping/embedded software of a number of products that used a RPI at some stage

[glacial knot]

We built a raspi line (as an x86 thin client shop) and it was aweful

[primal laurel]

either to ship something quickly to a customer or as end product

[clear ferry]

prototyping, sure

production ?

get that shit out of here

modern intels are just as power efficient as a pi and give a loads more options

[prisma briar]

We tried them in datacenters as wifi-attached serial ports for troubleshooting, they kept dying after a few weeks. When I started where I am they did run all the billboard screens around the office, but over a year I had 4 die so I replaced them with not much more expensive thin clients. My job before this tried using them as data recovery hosts to sit there and retry reading bad sectors from drives for weeks on end, that project failed because it was stupid and never going to work.

I think they managed to save like a single additional jpeg while I was there

[clear ferry]

If you need actual wifi \ wired attached serial ports I can reccomend the Air-Console, great product and has port multiplexing if needed

[prisma briar]

They set up some off the shelf solution that has a dozen serial connections on it, they put on a cart so they can move it around.

We also have access through drac serial port emulation to a good chunk of our servers

[clear ferry]

yuck drac

[prisma briar]

drac beats the shit out of supermicro and lenovo's offerings

[clear ferry]

Supermicro is a joke

[prisma briar]

I've heard iLO is good too, never tried it

[clear ferry]

and I haven't seen Lenovo post IBM

iLO is great, and highly programmatic

you can configure the entire server via API before it is even booted

and it will apply on boot

[prisma briar]

Dracs can be automated quite well too

Same for Dracs

[clear ferry]

yeah, we are pretty on par

dell just wanked java longer than us

[prisma briar]

That was a shitshow

[clear ferry]

btw

https://github.com/markusdd/ilo-utils

This is great

I love it

uses java, but works across all ilo versions

and is super fast

[prisma briar]

You can still connect to dracs using modern java if you specify a custom security override file that re-enables disabled SSL ciphers

[glacial knot]

LoL java

[prisma briar]

And use something like jswebstart to run the .jnlp your browser downloads

[primal laurel]

can I put those on a custom PCB?

[prisma briar]

Or just download all the jars in the .jnlp and run them manually, basically all it is is a list of launch parameters for the java process anyways.

[glacial knot]

Intel does have a product line for that. Though I think I recently read they sold it? 🤔

They even had an arduino like board for a while. Though it sucked

[primal laurel]

you mean they sold the NUC name to asus

[prisma briar]

I wonder if you could still boot a modern Intel proc like an 8086

[glacial knot]

No, not talkinga bout NUCs

[prisma briar]

You can in theory rebuild ISA (or at least most of it) from an LPC port on a modern motherboard

[primal laurel]

then what are you talking about?

[prisma briar]

The only things like that I've heard of are the LattePanda boards

I think it even has an arduino framework

[glacial knot]

Things like their galileo boards
though it looks like they discontinued it in 2017
Not sure if they made any more like that outside custom silicon

[last cedar]

My 846 wants a word when you come and visit

[prisma briar]

SuperMicro's entire AMD lineup will be be standing behind atx.

[primal laurel]

that's way underpowered for what I'm talking about

the closest replacement for RPI would be NXP i.mx

but that requires a much larger engineering effort on the SW side

besides the fact you need some serious embedded linux competence, which is expensive if you need to hire someone

[prisma briar]

I could make a single package inside of 30 minutes that installs Firefox and X, installs a systemd service to start them on boot, and places a webpage for Firefox to load to let it cycle through whatever you want. Then setting up a CentOS kickstart file to run an automated install that installs that package and making a copy of the netinst iso that targets that kickstart file would take like an hour longer, maybe. Then I could just boot that ISO directly to install it or feed it out through something like iPXE to hit a thousand hosts at once if I wanted.

I don't feel those are particularly uncommon skills for the average sysadmin to have, and RPi 4 and later look to support pxe boot even

[primal laurel]

On my last job we had one guy who could do that. But that's too high level for me, so I typically wouldnt work on that

[prisma briar]

To me that just makes sense for how to do it. It puts the responsibility for managing the distro itself into a major vendor's hands instead of some VDI provider, while allowing it to be basically completely automated. You can also make the install add it to things like salt for further management or just place a known ssh key on the box so you can access it later.

I am actually curious how other people do it, though. I never really looked into how people did this, I just did what came to mind.

Seems like a task with a lot of ways to complete it

https://pastebin.com/aTQxFf6W how I did the actual page to cycle through and the systemd services for mine

Oh yea, I reverted that one to Chrome and iframes too, video tags kept blanking when their z order was changed

[gleaming crater]

Lol my old middle school is "mysteriously" burning down right now, after being closed for having too much asbestos for almost 20 years....

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/vx27.gif

[gleaming crater]

There was another fire a town over and people on the subreddit were even commenting how this town never gets demolition permits because everything burns down instead

[clear ferry]

is that the american dream ?

[gleaming crater]

I know everything built in this town was at the prime of 'lets put asbestos in it'

[clear ferry]

Asbestosville

Kentucky

Classic town

[gleaming crater]

Lol

[clear ferry]

If you didn't cough when you came here, you will when you leave

is the town motto

[iron granite]

Not fireproof enough. Needs more asbestos

[gleaming crater]

I mean really that stuff was only bad when it was A) floating loose in the air as particulate matter and B) you are a smoker with damaged lungs

The combo of those two was basically supercancer

[clear ferry]

now we are talking

AsbestosMan

Mr Asbestos

Captain Asbestos

[iron granite]

Team Asbesties

[gleaming crater]

I mean do you remember growing up with commercials for lawyers looking for people who were affected by it?

Prob only a US thing lol

[clear ferry]

Yes

A lot of things is american things, that's for sure

I love watching advertising in the US when I travel, most surreal stuff

[gleaming crater]

I feel the same way watching foreign tv, UK commercials are wild

[clear ferry]

I agree

they are also bonkers

Japanese, American, British

the holy trinity

[gleaming crater]

But also, eff commercials

I block ads at so many levels

About the only time I see them is watching live FP1/2/3 on sky f1

[clear ferry]

I haven't had linear TV for 12 years, so I wouldn't know

[gleaming crater]

I wonder when linear TV will finally die off

I guess the only remaining draw is live (sports) events

[prisma briar]

My highschool had a fire that knocked out half the building for a year because of the asbestos mitigation

We already had a new building in development before that though so we moved to that instead of repairing the old school in full

Some idiot kids were smoking weed in a gym they thought was empty, a teacher walked in and they stashed the lit joints behind those crazy flammable plastic gym mats

[gleaming crater]

Why weren't they smoking over a toilet in the bathroom like they're supposed to lol

[clear ferry]

I do hear landlines and docsis is still popular in the US, so 2050 ?

[prisma briar]

docsis yea, landlines not so much

Mostly just the older generations have those

[gleaming crater]

Fiber is thankfully making lots more inroads

[prisma briar]

docsis can perform decently well

[gleaming crater]

When I could finally tell the cable company to pound sand it was great

They just give you crap upstream

[clear ferry]

Only reason why DOCSIS still has evolution is probably the US

[gleaming crater]

1200 down, 25 up

[prisma briar]

I get 2500/250 on mine

[gleaming crater]

That's not bad, how much they charge for that tho

[glacial knot]

nah, we also suck in Germany

[gleaming crater]

I get 1000/1000 fiber for $75/mo

[clear ferry]

Oh yeah, Vorsprung durch fiber