the-water-cooler

[solar zealot]

So true

[gleaming crater]

They were secretly open way early today I guess haha

[clear ferry]

https://github.com/xpipe-io/xpipe

[dusky plank]

2TB sd card coming next year

Can‘t wait to torture it with homeassistant.db

[clear ferry]

2TB, what is this, storage for ants?

[umbral cliff]

Well a microSD is the right size of an ant

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/atomic-gym-exercise-fit-working-out-gif-6208483

[coarse horizon]

Just finished my families Xmas White Elephant. I won back the Switchbot blind tilt that I contributed 😏

[gleaming crater]

lol we are doing “homemade” this year… so I printed a moon lamp

[static schooner]

Make sure you have a spot picked out for it 🙂

[red rock]

Ugh, recently outlook started complaining about that I have no storage

And I just remembered I have 3100 GitHub notifications and I get a mail for every update

[gleaming crater]

Just have a timed rule to purge anything older than 30 days

[red rock]

The best part

All the mails go into a folder and I don't look at it

The folder existed before I became more active so I never figured this as a problem

[gleaming crater]

Something about email is for boomers? lol

[red rock]

No I just use the GitHub app

[solar zealot]

Kids these days never will know mailing lists *grumpy noise*

[red rock]

I at least experienced IRC

[gleaming crater]

Im so old I ran a 2 line BBS outta my bedroom

[wary nimbus]

old! (kidding)

but a landline must've been more affordable back then..... the <word for nice people> at frontier were charging us 150 a month.

[winged obsidian]

Leak detector?

[last cedar]

Merry christmas everyone

If you look hard enough, you can find the raccoon in the picture

[red rock]

That's a beautiful view

Where is this?

[solar zealot]

racoon settlement

[clear ferry]

Merry jul

From Thursday fun times in traffic

[clear ferry]

dog damn catch 22, I wanted to get my P4 GPU to work, but it was a PITA on debian 6.1 and 6.5 kernel, so I wanted to try zabbly 6.6, but that breaks zfs 2.1 support since 6.6 and onwards require zfs 2.2

fucking shitshow

time to spin up one of my test servers and figure out a usable solution outside of prod

[red rock]

https://youtu.be/mDhNQPt8An0?si=t4r8XiT7mggT0K0H

[mossy dew]

https://medium.com/@stanslausmlangwa/unlocking-potential-women-technology-and-a-brighter-future-for-tanzania-6d2b67d0fa3f?source=author_recirc-----aac87ad33aac----2---------------------81606093_11c1_4c2b_a0ed_038f62a538b6-------

[umbral cliff]

Note sharing something you wrote without any context in a discord and it being your first message can be taken as spam

[umbral cliff]

Wow traffic. Something I basically never encounter 😛

[clear ferry]

3h one way 2h the other way for a 40km drive

Fun times

Not as bad as the record i have, 6.5h for one way same road

[glacial knot]

take a bicycle at that point

[clear ferry]

I did ride a bike in 2004 i remember

[umbral cliff]

Yuck such a long drive too

[clear ferry]

thankfully I only bother going to oslo once every two months or so

[umbral cliff]

Just live in a city
Simple

[clear ferry]

yuck

disgusting

no thanks

[umbral cliff]

Compared to 7-8 hours for a 700km+ drive that I did last week lol

[umbral cliff]

Cities are good

[clear ferry]

cities are shite

[umbral cliff]

Nah

Just good for some

[glacial knot]

yea, masochists are a thing

[clear ferry]

[umbral cliff]

Eh

I like living in a city. Having everything close by to me and being in the centre of everything

[clear ferry]

I live 3 minutes from a store, 15 minutes from a megastore, 20 minutes from the main country airport and 30 minutes from the capitol

I'm grand

[glacial knot]

yea, while it's further distance, time management wise I live closer to most things than if I lived in the city (assuming I dono't pay x5 to be in center, but only about x2)

[umbral cliff]

I'm 15 minute walk from the city centre
Have plenty of restaurants and cafes close by. 3 major shopping centres within 15 minute drive, 1 3 minutes away or 15 minute drive

Plus I like being in the middle of everything going on

[clear ferry]

Yeah I can probably get to 4-5 shopping centers in less than 20

still live in the middle of farmland

[umbral cliff]

I couldn't deal with living in the middle of farmland lol

[glacial knot]

like said, masochists

[umbral cliff]

Lol

Better than being a country bumpkin

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/purty-mouth-deliverance-smile-gif-16084688

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/bOFhd.gif

[umbral cliff]

Merry Christmas from down under all

[clear ferry]

tell us if tomorrow is great

[solar zealot]

merry chrysler to y'all

[glacial knot]

+11 o.0

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/bPsxd.gif

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/future-is-now-old-man-future-is-now-malcolm-in-the-middle-iota-tanglevision-gif-22172633

[umbral cliff]

That's east coast Australia for you

[glacial knot]

do you even have cities there?
I thought you got Sydney and outback

Wait, Sydney is on the east coast?
I think I realized that before....

I always think it's nort west

also, y'all got some great naming sense https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighty_Mile_Beach

[ocean oar]

Our one in NZ is better.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninety_Mile_Beach,_New_Zealand
It's called 90 mile beach, naturally because it's 55 miles long.

[glacial knot]

I was looking for that one

I knew that existed
Didn't know where

[ocean oar]

I do like how neither of them are remotely accurate, but the gross overestimate of ours is probably funnier

[midnight adder]

I made remote:

[alpine harbor]

Nice, I have a similar one that I use a lot: (The junk at the bottom needs some cleanup)

[umbral cliff]

Ew shitney

We have a few cities in Australia. I would never live in Sydney though or Brisbane

[ocean oar]

Imma just drop this here, if you'd prefer something not made from 4,000 buttons: https://github.com/usernein/tv-card

fwiw it needed a buttload of yaml, because apparently the remote control signals for Sony android TVs are all wacky

[red rock]

Why

[umbral cliff]

I don't like Sydney

[young sigil]

Eh. It's OK to visit. The Western Suburbs are a blight on the Earth though.

[last cedar]

Merry Christmas y'all

Actually, I am done with christmas now

[red rock]

That escalated quickly

[last cedar]

🦝

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-raccoonfly-kouenren-gif-22758629

[low harness]

Does anyone know in Ventoy works with legacy BIOS or only with UEFI?

[clear ferry]

just use clonezilla, it supports everything

[umbral cliff]

Ventoy works with UEFI, I use it all the time for UEFI

[umbral cliff]

Clonezilla really as simple? Just dump onto a usb and boot any ISOs?

[low harness]

Thanks. That answers the opposite of my question perfectly! 😉

[umbral cliff]

I misread whoops
It also works with legacy

Sorry 😛

[low harness]

No worries. I too am blind from time to time.

[umbral cliff]

Have used it on legacy too

[low harness]

Thank!

[umbral cliff]

I blame the alcohol from christmas day

[low harness]

Woah! That was easy!

[clear ferry]

Oh, I thought ventoy was the one that did disk cloning online

[distant junco]

https://www.ventoy.net/en/doc_mbr_vs_gpt.html

[low harness]

And there we go.
debian live boot
fsck -yf
reconnect everything
Internet back up
Christmas saved the day after celebrations

So glad I had a backup consumer router in a drawer when everything crashed at 2am christmas eve...

And a tiny bit disappointed it was so easy to fix... I would have liked to take this opportinity to switch to opnsense

[solar zealot]

Does anyone know if the netgear sx10(gs110mx?) Just utilizes a 1gbit link between both 10gbit and all 1gbit ports?

[glacial knot]

@last cedar

[last cedar]

omg

TYVM

[gleaming crater]

I spent this time setting up a networked white noise sleep machine audio source (delivered via Snapcast) complete with automation to turn it on at bedtime… I just realized I handcuffed myself from ever changing any network settings while the wife is asleep….

Getting up before the wife is my prime maintenance window lol

[gleaming crater]

If your 10g switch only has a 1g backplane I'd throw it in the trash lol

Usually in the specs they'll list the maximum switching rate

[solar zealot]

It lists about 56gbit there but it isn't specific whether or not this applies to in-between the higher and normal speed ports

No idea how 8gbit+2 10gbit would make 56gbit but yea

Oh no wait it's a full duplex link

Always forget about that

So that would be 40+16 then at least

[clear ferry]

what do you mean, cisco nexus 7000 with blocking asics, they are such great wow

[solar zealot]

Sadly there aren't that many desktop switches with more than 2 10gbit out there

In fact the only I can remember is the ubiquity ons

[clear ferry]

yuckuity

[forest edge]

Merry Xmas peeps

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/cc6odINKRBy.gif

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-bean-christmas-christmas-tree-harrods-gif-13056044

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/alanis-morissette-and-isnt-it-ironic-dont-you-think-ironic-isnt-it-ironic-music-video-gif-21703554

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze did Santa bring you coal and seaweed for Xmas?

[tidal bronze]

Seaweed and COB leds🤶

[ocean oar]

What do you need, ports-wise?
Mikrotik have some, but seem to have skewed too far in the other direction; can get an 8×SFP+ with only 1× 1Gb RJ45: https://mikrotik.com/product/crs309_1g_8s_in
You can run it from PoE on that 1Gb port though, so I guess that's nice?

It's stretching the definition of "desktop switch" a smidgen, I guess. There's a 4+1 version too though: https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in

[solar zealot]

that is quite interesting, i suppose i could buy sfp+ rj45 modules with 10gbit to make this work

that would be about 350 ish bucks?

poe isnt really a must have for me as i would have no other gear like that

[supple horizon]

check FS.com for SFP+ modules

not sure what you're connecting, but if you're going local SFP+ port to SFP+ port use 10gb DACS rather than RJ45

[solar zealot]

yea no this is connecting rooms over the good ol ethernet cables ^^

[supple horizon]

then sure FS.com SFP+ 10gb baseT are about $70

[solar zealot]

would at least be an option

[forest edge]

corn on the cob leds huh

how midwestern sounding you are

[tidal bronze]

Changing out most of the leds. Since there's nothing else to do with HA adding faucet temp notifications 🤣

[prisma briar]

I have both of those

Solid switches

RJ45 SFPs run real hot though, you'll overheat loading the 8+1 up with 8 RJ45 adapters

Burns aren't unheard of hot

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XQBFHNL

I use those for my SFPs, they're stable at 2.5Gbps and 1Gbps too.

I went through a lot of SFPs before I found ones actually stable at 2.5Gbps with my onboard realtek 2.5Gbps nic

[solar zealot]

i always wonder who at netgear thought they should passively cool those small switches with the least surface area possible

like even idle they cannot be touched

and thats just dual port 10gbit

[winged obsidian]

Their warranty is one year and only offers a replacement. From an engineering perspective, that’s the requirement. From a consumer perspective…nope.

[pure monolith]

Redeeming Christmas presents 😂

[iron granite]

[late gate]

happy festivus for the rest of us!

[primal laurel]

Prague looking spooky

[glacial knot]

public rat. Yes

[clear ferry]

Looks like a trendnet, so I would also be disappointed

[solar zealot]

Why does updating rgb stuff take significantly longer than updating the bios. What even is this doing

[prisma briar]

It's updating red to v1.3

[clear ferry]

Lol led firmware

And if the led firmware has an issue it will prevent system bootup

That is hilarious

[gleaming crater]

How long till someone exploits a system via the led driver

[clear ferry]

My wife bought me a nfc ring for Christmas, that is directly connected to my credit card, very nice, love it, also i always need new rings

[solar zealot]

their fix for the LogoFAIL issue was to remove the splash screen

people at asus just got a whole different thinking game going on

[gleaming crater]

If I didn't already have a watch that did that that sounds pretty cool... is it sold by the credit card company?

My wife managed to find me one of those lego typewriter sets, I hear its like a 6-12hr build

[last cedar]

@clear ferry does your || patch panel || look as good as mine?

https://tenor.com/view/sup-girl-eyebrows-gif-25755293

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/gntl-coin-gntl-network-crypto-cryptocurrency-gif-23491776

[last cedar]

Not finished yet

got another 8 drops to first floor, and 24 drops to cellar

But it is a start

[static schooner]

Is all that chicken wire to keep the raccoons out? Or in?

[clear ferry]

No, free standing company that has a deal with 20 or so banks

My watch is no good, amazfit, only supports alipay

[clear ferry]

I don't even have a patch panel

https://gotapster.com/

[young sigil]

With my watch NFC I have to enable it (once a day I think) to prevent skimming. Does the ring have the same thing or is it always enabled?

[clear ferry]

Nope always enabled

[sharp wedge]

Anyone here familiar with SAS? Looking for some advice for a server I just got

[ocean oar]

Reasonably. What are you trying to do?

[clear ferry]

SÆS

[red rock]

Apparently there are only 5 people in the office

so now I have an unlimited supply of oilballs

[red rock]

Right, I am distracting myself a lot

so I thought, let me use a pomodoro timer

and I kinda inverted it

I am distracting myself for 25 minutes to work 5 minutes

[iron granite]

What are oilballs?

[red rock]

oliebollen

a dutch thing you eat around NYE

[clear ferry]

We generally close offices half a week before Christmas then open again second or third day after New year
I used to work Christmas before when we had on call still, great pay though, could rake in €2000-3000 extra working a few hours over Christmas

[iron granite]

Is that a fried sweet batter with raisins?

[red rock]

yep

[iron granite]

Looks like our Futjes.

[red rock]

that sounds funny

[iron granite]

It's Low German, a northern dialect. Those Futjes are also a traditional food around New Year.

Might have the similar origins.

[red rock]

looks very similar indeed

Usually with these similar dishes people know the dish as the other name

but in this case, never heard of it

[iron granite]

Those used to be made in a special pan, which doesn't work with modern stoves. Now they are often fried in oil

[night zodiac]

we call them donut holes. /s

[umbral cliff]

Makes sense, but does that mean you can then tap your watch whenever you want on the terminals?

[clear ferry]

I've been using my phone for payment for well over a year exclusively now, so the ring made sense to me, so I don't have to bring the phone nor find which pocket I put it in

[night zodiac]

I was going to get a watch for the next time I travel to do the beepy boop

[last cedar]

Tell everyone where you wear the ring, though

[umbral cliff]

I just swap between whatever is convenient, card or phone
One is in my left pocket, one is on my right
Never have to think

[solar zealot]

"our led bulbs will surely last for more that 25.000 hours"

4 out of 10 died within a year

[umbral cliff]

Thats amazing that you crammed 25,000 hours of bulb on time into an 8766 hour year
/s

[solar zealot]

Yes

They create a time portal to generate more time in less time

Very odd

[gleaming crater]

Did you buy LIFX cuz that’s what happened to mine

[solar zealot]

No this is non smart osram stuff.

Went that way because it's 10 bulbs per fixture

[gleaming crater]

Non… smart…?

lol

Yeah smart switch is better for those situations

[solar zealot]

Well they have the auto dim feature. Where it's only 60% as bright after a year

[gleaming crater]

Ahahah

They prob woulda lasted a lot longer at less than full brightness too

Kinda like lithium batteries, use the whole capacity and you burn it up quicker

[solar zealot]

They should last for as long as they put on the box. They weren't expensive expensive but 10 bucks a lamp is still 20x the amount of the funky wire heater

[gleaming crater]

Yeah that’s some BS I’d complain to the company

[solar zealot]

It's a similarish failure rate

Will see if I have the receipt somewhere

[gleaming crater]

Not surprised they’re making them so cheap they don’t last

They’re hoping a year later you forget and buy more lol

Wouldn’t be the first time bulb manufacturers have colluded to reduce quality lol

[solar zealot]

I am tempted to buy some hues but I am not tempted to pay hue money for it

Maybe I can find some different 12w ones

[gleaming crater]

Ikea sometimes will have cheap ass zigbee bulbs

I got some odd size ones for almost as cheap as non smart bulbs

[solar zealot]

Sadly I can't install smart switches

Whoever designs them clearly hasn't put one inside a wall

[gleaming crater]

lol shallow boxes?

[solar zealot]

Not really, they are about 3 inch deep

[gleaming crater]

I did 17 inovelli red when I bought my house a couple years ago

You really do have to wire them up and just shove like a truck

[solar zealot]

I tried with the sonoff mini (the white one with neutral)

Maybe the non neutral ones could work but if it can't act as router why bother

[gleaming crater]

The inovelli ones don't need neutral and still do routing

Usually with non-neutral supported they just leak a watt of current thru the fixture to stay powered

And thats why you need a bypass if you have a very small load fixture so it doesn't light up the bulb

[solar zealot]

This gets way too difficult ^^

Id even take a replacement for the switch itself

[gleaming crater]

Hue makes zigbee switch covers

Goes right over the top

[solar zealot]

They should continue to work for switching the lights on and off

Sadly there aren't that many european one switch ones in a two or three unit row configuration

Mix and match would look wrong

[gleaming crater]

Ahh yeah the euro markets is very limited compared to US selection

[solar zealot]

Probably have to wait a couple more decades

[gleaming crater]

What about the shelly that hides in the box

[solar zealot]

beside it being wifi it's not really small enough

They do fit in the box but I can't fit the wires

They are chained on one circuit per floor so it's 9 wires per switch

[gleaming crater]

Lolwtf

They really dropped every fixture back to the same switch instead of running in series?

[solar zealot]

No it's 3 wires in, 3 wires pass to another room and 3 wires to the fixtures

I haven't checked the three-way ones, there may be even more in there

[gleaming crater]

So 3 hot, 3 neutral and 3 ground?

I know in the more crowded boxes I had to use a jumper wire off larger bundles

[solar zealot]

Yea pretty much

hot and neutral are switched, ground gets just bundled and passed

[gleaming crater]

Hmm yeah maybe with some wire cleanup and some careful packing you could make it all fit

I'd probably just pay a pro on thumbtack tho if it was too much a pain lol

[iron granite]

Sometimes that's hard to do without drywalls. I hardly got a Shelly i3 behind my livingroom switch.

[gleaming crater]

Yeah I've yet to see a smart switch that wasn't filling up the box with hardly any room to spare

[forest edge]

what you need room for if you have a smart switch already?

also in the us, swapping more modren single gang boxes with double boxes while leaving the second gang hidden behind the wall is pretty easy

not to mention the deep box options

[gleaming crater]

It's Horstexplorer that couldn't get one into the box even

[blazing musk]

I wish Carlon made a deep version of their side volume box

[gleaming crater]

All I can say is needle nose pliers are your friend for shoving wires back into the box

[static schooner]

Accordion + Smush

Worst part is when it ends up crooked and you can't figure out how to straighten it out

[gleaming crater]

lol I have a couple that are slightly to the left or right because that’s the best I could manage

[golden wing]

update:

[static schooner]

Driving like a maniac, no doubt 🙂

Speeding, not using turn signals, running over flowers, etc

https://tenor.com/view/goggles-paisano-the-flintstones-racing-fred-flintstone-cars-gif-20562278

[opaque knoll]

I am creating a HA udemy course and with that I am building a landing page. The course is aimed towards not just beginners but also experienced users as the users are here.

Currently I would like to get feedback on:

• HA themed landing page
• what people are interested in
• quiz where users get to test their skill and the course adjusts based on the results

The design is still a little rough as it has no mobile and the scale is a little off, content will change a bit also. Your feedback is appreciated 🤩

https://course.tnorbert.com

[prisma briar]

What are you paying for people to review your product and offer insight?

[opaque knoll]

Nothing

[prisma briar]

Lol

[young sigil]

Well your first question is wrong. It's not config.yaml. It is configuration.yaml

[opaque knoll]

Thanks, that’s true

[young sigil]

Lovelace is no longer a thing. Just called dashboards now.

The purpose of addons is to add 3rd party applications

[prisma briar]

A HA udemy course seems like it would be outdated in 6 months

[opaque knoll]

I think it has been getting quite stable lately

[young sigil]

This is nonsensical: "Which of the following is a valid platform for Home Assistant automations?" I give up. Not one actual valid question. So perfect for a udemy course.

[prisma briar]

It's a garbage platform that incentivizes people who don't know anything about a topic to push out confusing and worthless content in the hopes they can make a few bucks off of it.

Udemy isn't a good fit for HA and asking the community to more or less review a poorly done rewrite of the documentation, that's going to be outdated in six months and already exists in other maintained forms, just so you can get paid for it is lulzy.

[opaque knoll]

The content was generated for the quiz as I was mostly focusing so far on the development of the landing page. I will write my own content obviously. Sorry for not being up front about

[prisma briar]

Did you just use an AI to write it?

[opaque knoll]

The quiz yes

[prisma briar]

🤣

[young sigil]

Oh that's why it is completely wrong.

[opaque knoll]

I meant the feedback for the quiz, as in it would gauge the users understanding of HA. Then in the course page it would show more or less only the chapters that are relevant to each user

[young sigil]

My feedback: Stop now.

[opaque knoll]

As in course

[young sigil]

Yes.

[opaque knoll]

Yeah sorry, I am a engineer by profession and got a little carried away with building the landing page. Content was just there to fill the design and functionality. I wanted to show what is done so I don’t just keep developing in the dark 😅

[primal laurel]

That's stupid. Really reaaaaally stupid

[iron granite]

If you leave the quiz, it restarts but you keep the points. So you can get all points by answering the first question again and again 😆

10/10 points with config.yaml

Oh, I'm wrong... I'm at 20 out of 10 points now

[red rock]

Sheees

Show off

[ocean oar]

NEW HIGH SCORE!

[tender prism]

First to 100 wins!!

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-score-yess-gif-12592329

[tender prism]

https://tenor.com/view/mob-100-gif-5980498

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/mission-accomplished-penguins-penguins-of-madagascar-high-five-team-work-gif-21975305

By the way... I'm not too sure the HA logo can be used for commercial use by others than Home Assistant/Nabu Casa.

Or granted by them (like "Works with Home Assistant")

[opaque knoll]

That’s good info, I was also looking at the copyright of the name

[red rock]

Right click the logo on the website

Iirc

[iron granite]

Please note that this logo is not released under the CC license. All rights reserved.

[gleaming crater]

So... i'm going to run a massive light show, should I stop HA from polling state of those devices? My devices with esphome were twiddling state many times a second to the beat on my dashboard....

[primal laurel]

Unless you're talking 1000s of devices no

[gleaming crater]

I mean it's 45 bulbs updating as much as 60 times/second

And going for hours on NYE

Just curious what tha'll do to the state database lol

[primal laurel]

60 times per second? How?

[gleaming crater]

They all run lifx protocol

Which is a super lightweight udp packet structure for setting any/all values in a single message

I just added support for lifx to LedFx actually lol, I just gotta submit the pull request

A couple years back I ported the lifx control stack to esphome so I could run it on my cheap bulbs

But noawdays you can also run wled on anything esphome and get the same speed control stack with DDP

[primal laurel]

60 seems overkill

[gleaming crater]

A lot of these effects aren't done with any kind of hardware transitions, the server is actually spraying out each discrete change it wants

So to even animate a led strip you've gotta update it at whatever framerate you're going for

Or even color/brightness fades

If you're going for sound reactive it's gotta be fast....

[golden wing]

something neat i just realized i can do now that i have a rack with its own fans, and a PDU which can be integrated into home assistant

POE ESP32 with a temperature sensor running esphome, then an automation to kick on those fans when it gets too warm

which definitely beats always on like it currently is

[ocean oar]

To be fair, you can also do that 100% analogue

My rack came with 230VAC fans and a basic bi-metal thermostat. I swapped the fans for 24VDC Noctua "industrialPPC" ones, but just kept the thermostat

I think it's these ones I used https://noctua.at/en/nf-f12-industrialppc-24v-3000-sp-ip67-pwm

[umbral cliff]

Recommend trying to run it independently of HA like qupada suggests
If your HA instance dies or something goes wrong there then your entire rack cooling is now useless

[golden wing]

yeah that makes sense

i say that i had just realized because i haven't really began to look into ways to control those fans

[ocean oar]

The thermostat that came in my rack looked a bit like this:
https://nz.element14.com/omega/kt011419/thermostat-no-15a-120vac-10a-250vac/dp/3462999

Just two terminals and a basic temperature dial

[golden wing]

yeah mine didn't have anything like that lol

just a 3 prong cable

[golden wing]

oh

[ocean oar]

So glad I put proper lighting in under the house where this is now. Having only a headlamp to see by kinda sucked

[golden wing]

it makes sense that those L bracket things would be at the bottom where the heavy things are

when i was putting mine together i assumed it was just a structural thing so i put them in the middle

[ocean oar]

Two UPSs at the bottom 🙂

Because the rack being 55kg empty wasn't enough

[golden wing]

yeah i went through the pain of installing my UPS today before coming to that realization

[ocean oar]

https://dynamix.co.nz/RODW12-600FK

[blazing musk]

my 3u rack in my "attic" space between two floors (floated over a vaulted ceiling) seems a little nicer now.

though a bigger rack would be nice. Should have bought a 5u or something at least

need to take a more recent picture, there's more stacked on top of the patch panel now and more crap stored on the floor.

e.g. my home server (which happens to be the thing running HA among other stuff) is a NUC on top of the patch panel

[ocean oar]

This is mine full.
The UniFi router needs to go away, but I still don't know what it's getting replaced with yet.

Also with foam around the outside, so the only airflow is through the devices

Also the ONT is in the back, behind the switch

Confused the shit out of the installers when I handed them a blanking plate and said "screw it onto this, please and thankyou"

I even installed them an appropriate compression gland (smallest hole in the middle you can see in the first photo) for the microduct

[blazing musk]

MikroTik if you're a masochist for configuration but want rock solid

[blazing musk]

Ours is in the same place it always was (installed before we bought the house in 2012) but the power supply and wiring are all mine.

[ocean oar]

ONT hidey hole:

[umbral cliff]

That's a lot of cat5/6 lol

[ocean oar]

I think I've only got 10 that leave the cabinet. 4 in the office, 2 in the lounge, one each for doorbell, LoRa gateway, hallway AP, garden AP.
But the ONT, and the management ports on the two UPSs are punched into the patch panel for convenience

[umbral cliff]

What do you do for LoRA?

[ocean oar]

https://www.milesight.com/iot/product/lorawan-gateway/ug65

Has some neat party tricks; programmable (in javascript, weirdly) tranlation from the raw data to JSON, and native MQTT support.

So I just had to write some nasty scripts to set up devices via MQTT discovery

[umbral cliff]

What do you use to connect to the LoRA stuff? Also how easy is it to work with

[glacial knot]

I'm more interested in what kind of sensors you got on LoRa 🤔

[ocean oar]

Garage door and glasshouse door have reed switches.
Glasshouse also has temperature, humidity, CO2, light, soil moisture.
Inside house a mix of temperature, humidity, light, motion, CO2.
Garage door opener is also connected to a LoRa relay (garage is quite far removed from the house, 900MHz is the only thing that will reach)

[ocean oar]

It's all just mqtt

[umbral cliff]

That's cool
Love how it's just mqtt too

What did you buy for the sensors?

[ocean oar]

Same brand

[umbral cliff]

Neat

I want to look into Lora properly

It seems cool

[ocean oar]

https://www.milesight.com/iot/product/lorawan-sensor/am103-am103l
https://www.milesight.com/iot/product/lorawan-sensor/em300-mcs
https://www.milesight.com/iot/product/lorawan-sensor/ws202
https://www.milesight.com/iot/product/lorawan-sensor/em500-co2
https://www.milesight.com/iot/product/lorawan-sensor/ws156

Those and a few others

The garage door is this thing
https://www.milesight.com/iot/product/iot-controller/uc300
Took me some considerable effort to figure out how to transmit rather than just receive

[glacial knot]

do they have prices somewhere? All I see is "contact sales" which is usually: if you have to ask...

[ocean oar]

It was the brand one of the local network / wireless resellers had. Expensive, but not unreasonably so (to be fair I've also bought almost all of it when on sale).

[blazing musk]

You can bodge something together with Meshtastic if you're diy-inclined

[glacial knot]

I'm fine with my zigbee stuff so far

I don't have long distances in my apartment o.0

[blazing musk]

It uses LoRa but its own mesh protocol instead of LoRaWAN

And has MQTT bridging

If you go that route look into the RAK Wireless WisBlock Meshtastic Starter Kit for building units.

[clear ferry]

I get 25m with ZigBee

But my testing with lora gave me 800m or so with receiver inside a RF shielded car and sender inside my house

[clear ferry]

My five year old daughter just said she can't get her wired earplugs to fit, turns out she's tried to put the outside bit inside the ear

How I can tell, there is earwax on the outside

[red rock]

sounds like someone needs to clean their ears

[umbral cliff]

Takes after her father

[clear ferry]

Yes, like my wife says, "you are the dumbest smart person i know"

I can fix a 64 socket servers boot issues in 3 minutes, but I still manage to drill through a door because I don't notice the tape marking I'm using is moving with each use

[solar zealot]

Doing diy stuff is weird. One moment you look at parts and be like I can spend 5 bucks on this and then the 200$ cart hits you on checkout

[umbral cliff]

Don't forget the $100 drill because you should get one whilst you're out
And $50 other tool
And $250 tool

Lol

[clear ferry]

I don't kink shame

Financial irresponsiblity fetish

[solar zealot]

It is very responsible to always buy new one use tools

That way you avoid having to check the isolations on wires

:^)

[clear ferry]

I have at least 2 of every tool

Some probably 4

[solar zealot]

If id somehow end up with having friends and they all need to borrow the same tool, id better be prepared

[clear ferry]

I'm imagining having friends you say

[umbral cliff]

Only 4?

[clear ferry]

Because I lost 3 more outside somewhere yes

[umbral cliff]

Gotta ensure you have different qualities of each tool too
Give people the choice

[solar zealot]

Well racoons tend to also borrow space in your house if you let them. And they are friend shaped

[gleaming crater]

I actually knew someone with a racoon problem in their house, turns out they had crossed over from the utility lines and broke into the crawl space

[solar zealot]

I always wonder how they manage to climb that high for no apparent reason

[gleaming crater]

They have some fierce claws anyways

[solar zealot]

Yea

[gleaming crater]

I always bump into them at my place once a year around the time change, we come out to potty the dogs and they're caught off guard by us up at that time

Other than the time I saw one in my side yard in broad daylight with a bloody stump for a tail just rooting around digging up the ground

[last cedar]

Or you accidentally buy a 700 euro framing nailer

[solar zealot]

Stuff just happens and I am not the one judging

[gleaming crater]

For all those houses you're going to frame lol

[prisma briar]

I started out with the intent of patching some nail holes and hanging some shelves in a laundry room and it turned into realizing everything could be moved to my garage just by moving some connections over to the other side of a wall, which led to me adding a heater and reading up on what I needed to do to bring my laundry electrical up to code which led to me running a new circuit and a grounding wire for an existing circuit.

[last cedar]

I did the siding on the house, have a garage to build and redo the shed 😄

smol

[solar zealot]

You can wire an esp to it to make it smart

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/turret-gif-26068477

Nailgun, ESP,...

[gleaming crater]

I need new siding, stuff ain’t cheap to have installed

[solar zealot]

They shoot the whole bullet

Much more efficient

[last cedar]

@gleaming crater I did my own, happy how it turned out

[iron granite]

More bullet per bullet

[gleaming crater]

I’ve got a 2-story split level, there a lot of siding on mine

[last cedar]

Needs a little more work

[gleaming crater]

lol

[last cedar]

Is the actual pic 🙂

[prisma briar]

My house has this annoying plastic siding that doesn't actually rigidly connect to the wall at all, it slots into covers on the side and interlocks with eachother, but each segment can slide around an inch or so.

[gleaming crater]

Has it melted and sagged in the summer sun yet lol

[prisma briar]

No, I don't think it's low quality, just a weird system of mounting.

[gleaming crater]

My house just has 40 year old cedar siding, the south wall has been baked to death

[prisma briar]

And it's really obnoxious to put one of those panels back on without taking off an entire wall's worth of panels, took me like an hour last time I had to

I think there's some tool for it I don't have

[gleaming crater]

lol probably

I’m finally on the cusp of being able to say “turn on the house party” and having it start the music and make all the lights blink to the beat

[prisma briar]

I looked into that but lights with low enough latency to do that seemed too expensive/complicated to use as general lighting. I wanted something I could fall back and just use a wall switch for if my smart stuff ever failed

[gleaming crater]

Yeah for sound reactive it’s gotta be WiFi-based with UDP control or hue entertainment

Diyhye can emulate entertainment mode with HA devices via web socket tho

[prisma briar]

I was looking into running ARGBWW strips along the edges of rooms with controllers that could react

[gleaming crater]

WLED is your jam

[prisma briar]

I have a couple WLED lights already

[gleaming crater]

I just installed LedFx as a service to drive them

It’s got api hooks to start scenes and stuff

[prisma briar]

I 3D printed some house numbers and put argb strips in them so they can do patterns

Would post a pic but don't want to literally post my address online, lol

[gleaming crater]

I need to do that, nobody can see my numbers currently

[prisma briar]

I was considering setting up an integration to read my texts from Google Voice to determine when food is being delivered to automatically turn them on at night

Otherwise I'm planning on keeping them really dim or completely off unless a motion sensor is activated

I was also probably going to do things like make them show festive patterns on hoildays

[gleaming crater]

I’d use my frigate integration to trigger something like that I think

And yeah ledfx will do all that on demand

They have an HA addon too I believe but not sure how up to date it is

[prisma briar]

Yea, eventually I'm going to remove all my outdoor motion sensors and move to just Frigate.

I want to use the motion sensors indoors

I could do that now, now that I think about it.

It's all already installed.

[gleaming crater]

I use my outdoor motion sensors primarly for lux readings actually

and use that to switch camera day/nigh profiles automatically

the day is nigh? lol

[prisma briar]

I have one in a sunroom that I'm going to switch over to for lux readings

I am using my front yard one for that right now though

I only have my outdoor lighting automations check it before turning lights on

[gleaming crater]

Yeah it was fun trying to flip camera profiles based on lux, if you're early/late you blind the camera

[prisma briar]

I just use automatic brightness leveling security cameras

They have IR LEDs on them for night too

[gleaming crater]

Yeah I have amcrest and the automatic modes are kinda meh

out of the box they want to lower the FPS at night, turning moving objects into a blurry smear

[prisma briar]

I have Amcrest ones and have been happy with them so far.

[gleaming crater]

I was able to get much better results with manually configured profiles for day/night, it's just too dumb to even auto switch outside of a schedule

[prisma briar]

I should say I've been happy with the non-cloud Amcrest cameras, their cloud ones are a joke and nobody should ever buy them.

[gleaming crater]

lol true

I use the smartpss desktop software to configure mine

Makes up for the lack of web interface anyways

[prisma briar]

I just don't configure the one cloud camera I have. It has an RTSP feed by default I have Frigate watching and I set my gateway to forward all NTP requests from it directly to my NTP server so the clock on it would be right but I didn't have to give it any internet access.

[gleaming crater]

ahh yeah you can change the ntp on those via the app or api

I pointed mine to my firewall

[prisma briar]

I never set up their app

It looked like spyware

[gleaming crater]

I use smartpss, the dahua version lol

And yeah it's some chineesium for sure

[prisma briar]

Also their camera was trying to push out like 10Mbps over the internet constantly when it had access, even with no account set up

So no internet access for it

[gleaming crater]

Yeah they even leave the socket open long term on those so just adding a firewall rule without resetting states won't drop it offline

[prisma briar]

I set up a dedicated camera vlan that has never had internet access

And has that ntp forward on it

[gleaming crater]

I never setup the NTP forward because I changed their configs, but I do forward dns like that

too many devices that think they can just go around my dns these days

https://tenor.com/view/no-randy-jackson-dawg-gif-12730917

[prisma briar]

I don't think I have any devices that ignore DNS in use

None of my IoT crap has internet access at all though

[clear ferry]

@young sigil can confirm the ring is pretty safe tbh,the antenna appears to only beam downwards from the ring, so I can't trigger it with any reader at all from the side, only way to trigger it is to bend my finger at the joint and press it against a reader

[gleaming crater]

The worst is generally smart tvs or streaming boxes I've found

[clear ferry]

Is it true that in the us smart TVs have built in ads?

[prisma briar]

Some specific ones do

Mostly the really really cheap ones, or anything made by Samsung

The only thing like ads my LG TV has is new show suggestions it pulls from installed streaming services

It's also been good about honoring my DNS settings

[gleaming crater]

Oh it's way worse than that

Some brands are now running content ID on the tv, taking screen snaps every second

[clear ferry]

LOL

What a boring dystopia

[prisma briar]

My LG offers that to 'show interactive content related to the video' but there's a toggle to turn it off.

[gleaming crater]

How else do you get a 55" tv for $149 lol

[prisma briar]

Kinda hidden but it's there

[gleaming crater]

My advice is never let your tv on the internet

My tv supposedly had a bad firmware update after the warranty was expired

[prisma briar]

I'd just spend more money and buy a nice (non-samsung) TV instead of an ad-subsidized billboard to put in your house.

[gleaming crater]

That was killing peoples tvs

Problem is dumb tvs cost wayyyyyy more

[prisma briar]

I really can't stress how awful Samsung manages their TV OS.

[gleaming crater]

Because it's the product, not you

[prisma briar]

Nicer smart tvs also have less of that crap in my experience

[gleaming crater]

That too

[prisma briar]

Again, excluding Samsung

[gleaming crater]

I like my LG OLED, but the built in UI is pretty crap and I never use it

[prisma briar]

I've never had issues with the UI on mine

[gleaming crater]

I'm just literally never going to use built in streaming apps I guess

And I didn't get the mouse remote nonsense lol

[prisma briar]

I rooted my TV and set up a program on it to send the coordinates for that cursor to my PC so I can control my PC with it

Also remapped the streaming app buttons on the remote to control lights

[gleaming crater]

I just did the basic androidtv integration with mine so I could sync bias lighting with it's power state, I've got a harmony to add extra buttons lol

My wife was mindblown when I put the living room shades on the tv remote

[prisma briar]

LG TVs don't run Android

[gleaming crater]

oh yeah the webos integration

I use the android one for my actual streaming boxen

[prisma briar]

I tried a Chromecast on my TV for a bit but I found it to be slower than the built-in OS and also it was riddled with ads

[gleaming crater]

I use an unlocked formuler box, it's pretty nice to have a box that doesn't want to show me any ads

Even has it's own app store to install SmartTubeNext for no youtube adds

[prisma briar]

I have a PC hooked up to my TV too, I only actually use the built-in streaming apps for streaming services that limit their stream quality on PC

Or if I want to watch a Dolby Vision movie

[clear ferry]

I haven't used the smart function on my TVs since probably 2015 or so, just hooked up apple tvs to them

gonna replace the main one with a shield now to test out

[prisma briar]

I had no intention of using the apps on my LG when I got it but when I tried them they weren't bad. Also the apps on LG work with the gyro in the remote so typing to search for a show is way faster.

[gleaming crater]

What, you don't want to let your TV send voice searches to the mystery cloud???

[prisma briar]

The stupid voice assistant on LG was always like 5x louder than any other sound so whenever I accidentally hit that button it'd just start screaming at me

That was what motivated me to root it at first

I don't think I've ever once purposefully attempted to interact with it's voice features

[gleaming crater]

The only reason I'd consider rooting would be for that built-in ambilight stuff

[dusky plank]

Rooted lg tvs are great

[prisma briar]

I want to set up hyperion lighting at some point

[dusky plank]

Custom button mappings, the ambilight stuff, youtube adfree apps and in general any website you like

[prisma briar]

I put a startup script on mine to sent a WoL packet to my htpc and set my htpc to watch for when the TV quits pinging and go to sleep

[gleaming crater]

Noice

I just watch my streaming box state to control other lights/audio nodes nearby

[last cedar]

I need to google this, I have an older OLED

[prisma briar]

I at one point played with using Hyperion to send a video feed to a remote PC I was able to record. It was sending raw uncompressed video though so I couldn't get the framerate above like 10fps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrnwPKESCZQ

That's captured right off my rooted C1

[gleaming crater]

Hmm interesting

[prisma briar]

I wanted to try making it record to a local file on a USB drive to see if it could keep up but I got a capture card instead and never bothered testing that.

[gleaming crater]

Is it just a raw frame dump or can it encode to something useful for transport

[prisma briar]

Hyperion was sending full RGB for each pixel. I have no idea if the TV can encode video at an acceptable rate, I kind of doubt it.

Hyperion is meant to send like a 1:20 scale image just for edge lighting so it wasn't really made with this in mind

But you can set the scale to whatever you want

It's an alternative system to ambilight

[gleaming crater]

I'd have to replace the strip on my tv now, I got a free inovelli strip led for buying so many switches

But that one is about as dumb as they come

[prisma briar]

https://discord.gg/CTPuFJe6

Lol, I ordered some batteries from Home Depot and for some reason they sent them with their appliance delivery team, so a semi truck is going to have to make a loop around my street to give me a battery for my drill.

Oh, I bet the capacity I ordered is too high for traditional shipping

They're 216Wh batteries

[gleaming crater]

Yeah you can only ground ship lithium batteries, it's a pain

[prisma briar]

I think most couriers cap out at 100Wh for ground shipping even

For Lithium at least

[static schooner]

they once sent a couple of guys in a truck to deliver my grill cover

[hoary fulcrum]

Hello,
Do you know if it is possible to use another zigbee door sensor? Are they same?
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/gas-meter-from-xiaomi-aqara-door-sensor-zigbee/348032

[clever mortar]

They're all much the same inside

[primal laurel]

Yeah should work

[clear ferry]

sensor is sensor

at least for ha

even more so with mqtt

[primal laurel]

This is about the magnet, not the HA a
part 😅

[hard trellis]

does anyone here have long term (1 year or more) experience with chinese TRVs? Specifically these https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/TV02-Zigbee.html

[iron granite]

#zigbee-archived or #hardware-archived might be able to help. That's not really off-topic.

And it lacks raccoons

[hard trellis]

what do you mean by that?

[primal laurel]

You need to pay the raccoon tax

Ask a question in #the-water-cooler , pay one raccoon picture (gif also allowed)

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-yes-happy-excellent-evil-plan-gif-18648187

[gleaming crater]

Am I doing it right?

[static schooner]

That kid is getting beaten up, that's for sure

Or kidnapped and brought to a furry convention

[finite atlas]

https://videos.pr0gramm.com/2023/12/27/015a3d1ed9fdd3f8-vp9.mp4

[clever mortar]

I remember when that made the news

[gleaming crater]

I just locked in a DJ for my NYE party I'm stoked

[iron granite]

You locked in a DJ... isn't that illegal?

[gleaming crater]

Lol I had to pay him so there's that

[iron granite]

[gleaming crater]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-dancing-dance-raccoons-raccoon-dance-party-gif-21013437

[ocean oar]

Boop

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge so all set to watch TV NYE? 🤣

[forest edge]

thats what old people do.. if you are not there yet, you will be soon enough lol

[tidal bronze]

Sad

[forest edge]

why is that sad?

it's new years.. not some rare event lol

[tidal bronze]

I understand, house to barn, barn to house. TV sounds amazing

[forest edge]

just got a new tv.. it does look amazing

not thrilled with dolby atmos tho

the sound changes are a bit annoying imo

[tidal bronze]

Reflective or direct drive ATMOS?

[forest edge]

no idea.. all built into the tv

[tidal bronze]

Oh reflective 🤣

[forest edge]

i don't do that sound shit like "some" people do

[tidal bronze]

If Aquaman sound track doesn't make you a new person.
, problem is with your drivers and delivery not ATMOS 😀

[forest edge]

you should spend more time smelling flowers and less cuddling speakers

[tidal bronze]

LMAO

DV as well?

[forest edge]

dv?

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-now-kiss-finn-gif-5658105

[tidal bronze]

Dolby Vision?

[forest edge]

yea

i don't know what that is.. but yea it has that on the box

[tidal bronze]

Dynamic Metadata

[forest edge]

dobly vision iq whatever that is

i bought it cause it was a google tv since android tv's are more rare thinking it would have some neat features

now after having to jump through some adb hoops.. i'm not as impressed lol

[tidal bronze]

That's no fun

Happy with shield integration with HA but rarely use it.

[forest edge]

shield isn't as limited plus not sure it runs the same android variation tv's do

[tidal bronze]

No idea. If there's a TV, there's a shield. Only way. Lol

[forest edge]

your shields are old, do they even ever update the interface?

[tidal bronze]

Last update was sometime ago. As long as, 4K playback is flawless and decodes ATMOS like butter, shield it is.

[forest edge]

prob like android 11

this tv is 12 and I don't care so much for the changes lol

hope it gets android 14

hmm i just looked it up.. they say the shield chokes some in 4k

[tidal bronze]

Never. I run all pros.

[forest edge]

I still think the interface for roku is better. as far as ease of use etc anyways

[tidal bronze]

Never used Roku, but seen at hotels. UI of choice for them 😀

[forest edge]

roku is kind of like apple in the sense that it just works with ll the apps available regardless what device you have

android sucks bad in that regard

this tv i got can't even download the spectrum tv app

[oblique lava]

boop

[tidal bronze]

Spectrum TV???? Really?? Don't tell me you were born in 1959

[forest edge]

? not sure how that has anything to do with 1959

[iron granite]

Boop

[golden wing]

the most cursed way to get a longer ethernet cable

||this is temporary||

[young sigil]

I've seen this done (by a contractor in a permanent install) with 3M Scotchloks 🫤

Oh! So that's why it won't support Gb Ethernet.

[golden wing]

😆

[blazing musk]

I did this once as a teenager with cat3, twisted together wires, and electrical tape to connect an old 200mhz pentium PC to my network

[static schooner]

Same, but was in college. And mostly by trial and error 🙂

[ocean oar]

I owned one of those long-ass parallel port null modem cables that'd get you about 1.2Mbps between two PCs using the "direct cable connection" thing in Windows

Was great before I owned any PC with a network card, let alone a switch

[forest edge]

@tidal bronzehttps://youtu.be/E8AI206QlN0?si=yNAwxvhC8spKGC9l

[brisk glen]

This is the most disgusting thing I have seen all year

[clear ferry]

I ran one with just twisted together wires for years

[forest edge]

whoa atx got his own movie. nice. https://youtu.be/pYul82i1b0g?si=9EZKbymkdykl91Y4

[low harness]

My father-in-law connects his speaker cables with twist wire nuts. Just because it annoys people...

[forest edge]

? everyone does?

confused how that would annoy people

[low harness]

Some audiophiles have aneurysms about it.

[young sigil]

That's fine, as long as they are oxygen free mahogany wire nuts.

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze

[primal laurel]

This toilet is running android

[solar zealot]

"you need an active Google one subscription to use this toilet"

[prisma briar]

"Software update failed, this toilet is unable to be driven"

[static schooner]

You can use the toilet after you watch these ads, or pay $2.99 for ad-free

[dusky plank]

Why is toilet screen broken

Must‘ve been a hard session

[clear ferry]

Excuse me wtf, why is he extending speaker cables?

[low harness]

There you go.

[clear ferry]

I'm not an audiophile, but I'm genuinely curious why you would need to extend speaker cables in a normal household

[prisma briar]

I think I bought a 50m spool when I wired mine and it was entirely too much for 7 speakers.

[clear ferry]

Yeah, my old 5.1 was probably around 40m total to hide the rear cables, no extensions though

[gleaming crater]

The only time I used up 50m of audio cable was running from the living room out to the back deck for another audio zone

[iron granite]

I always connect my optical cables with twist wire nuts

[clear ferry]

Fun fact, windows is so ridiculously sensitive to drive issues that they will often be the only systems affected by for example a knot on a fiber cable

Or any other underlying storage transport issues

[prisma briar]

It's not too bad if there's no paging file on the drive but if there is, yea, it'll bsod at the drop of a hat

I had the fun job of swapping a bunch of wire nuts out with butt splices a couple days ago because the previous homeowner joined a bunch of copper and aluminum in wire nuts. Only one was crispy though.

Specifically the 30A line running to the dryer had copper pigtails on aluminum line in completely inadequate wire nuts

[winged obsidian]

Built 1969?

[prisma briar]

1972

[solar zealot]

oh the latency of a network share is up? guess you wont be able to use the explorer and right click menu anymore

™️

[clear ferry]

The us fetish with wire nuts always amazes me

[clear ferry]

I audibly laughed

[prisma briar]

They're particularly stupid for aluminum. They're only safe for copper.

Or there's a single brand of NEC approved ones for aluminum+copper connections but it caps out at 10awg and my dryer is on 8awg

The way aluminum expands and shrinks as it heats supposedly wreaks havoc on wire nuts

[clear ferry]

Which is why wago is far superior

But Americans hate this one trick

[prisma briar]

None of the wagos I saw in stock were rated for aluminum

[clear ferry]

https://www.wago.com/global/building-technology/electrical-installers/practical-tip-connecting-aluminum-and-copper-conductors

[prisma briar]

4 mm²

8awg is 10mm²

[clear ferry]

I can't say I have ever seen aluminium conductors, and I can't remember them being mentioned in my classes at all

You Americans and your weird awgs

[prisma briar]

Pure aluminum wiring used to be a lot more common, I think they use alloys now that get around most of the issues with using straight aluminum.

My 30a 240v dryer doesn't even have a ground wire running to it (as was the normal practice at the time), older generations had no idea how the fuck to run wires safely.

[clear ferry]

@low harness probably uses only aluminium

Cable guy number one

[low harness]

Never for anything at home. Can't solder aluminium.

[prisma briar]

Ground wires weren't required for dryers until 1996

[low harness]

For the big stuff, though. Yes.

[clear ferry]

I don't think I have ever seen a drier or washer without ground, and I've seen stuff from the 70s

[low harness]

Above 3000 mm² cross section, definitely.

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/big-ol-book-gif-20961594

[prisma briar]

All of my 15/20a circuits have been copper everywhere I've looked, I was actually rather surprised to see aluminum running to the dryer.

I was expecting copper

Going to take my electrical panel cover off and review all the connections on it with a thermal camera tomorrow

[clear ferry]

Does your drier pull that amperage? I have a big model and it pulls max 550w

[low harness]

W / Hr?

[prisma briar]

idk on that

The max it can pull on that circuit per code is like 5700

[prisma briar]

I assume yours is all electric? 550w seems low.

I don't think mine ever actually pulls 5300w but it definitely can pump out a couple thousand.

For the outlet it's intended to hook up to to be up to code it needs to be rated to handle 30A

And since I'm moving it I need to retrofit in a ground wire for it

Only legal as-is if I just don't touch it

Thankfully I only need to run a single strand of copper about 30' for it

[clear ferry]

Yes, all electric

The washer and drier share a 10a circuit

[prisma briar]

Does it take like 6 hours per load or something?

[primal laurel]

heat pump dyers can also save you quite some electricity

[clear ferry]

It takes 2-3h per full load

I have two kids, I don't have a lot of time

[prisma briar]

My dryer finishes most loads in like 45 minutes to an hour, maybe 90 minutes if I'm drying heavy blankets or something.

If I'm just washing a single set of clothes I can wash and dry them within an hour

[clear ferry]

Yeah, I can wait for that, my washes takes 90m for a big load if I run it in fast mode, 140m normal speed

Yeah, single set of clothes would be 30-40m

Total

My washer has a 15m program and the drier would take probably 15-20m

That never happens though, I usually wash 5-6 baskets per week, if it is a calm week

[prisma briar]

I only do my own clothes, I wash maybe three baskets a week, and half of that is bed sheets.

I do often wash just a couple things if I want a specific shirt or something that's dirty but don't have enough for a full load

Hmm

My washing machine had a recall where the machine was wearing through a wire and causing fires that they patched through a software update...

https://www.consumerreports.org/appliances/appliance-recalls/samsung-top-load-washing-machines-recalled-for-fire-hazard-a7986864210/

[static schooner]

Is there anything that software can't do?

[clear ferry]

then die

[sterile lake]

Hello everyone,
A friend of mine recently asked me whether HA can also be used to automate a process that can be used to purchase items. A bot that performs the purchase process, only with the possibilities of Home-Assistant, so that you still keep the process under control (creation / update of entities, use of automations for the purchase process).
Is there anyone who could support him here? The time spent would of course be fairly remunerated.

[iron granite]

So he/she wants his/her smarthome to control all the smart gadgets at home and purchase stuff itself?

[static schooner]

What could go wrong?

SkyNet

[ocean oar]

https://youtu.be/hBP-NzOadL0

[iron granite]

https://tenor.com/view/jul-juld-julb-julswap-crypto-gif-20747337

[sterile lake]

Not for smarg gadgets, ony to pucharse stuff. Does anybody know a good solution for that?

[iron granite]

No smarthome solution. You might want to look into a ERP system

Or an inventory management system

[sterile lake]

OK Thx

[low harness]

More like 576

The alt-text is a classic reference too.

Day six: 'The hell? Who mails a bobcat?'

[umbral cliff]

That seems to be fixed now. Haven't encountered that since the start of the year
Used to encounter it a lot whenever I was disconnected from my network share, now no matter where I am or what network I'm on it seems to be fine

[solar zealot]

I had that recently when the driver's of my Nas were messed up

It also happens for local drive latency, like when it gets too warm

Or simply when it's fully utilized

[prisma briar]

I'd guess part of the purpose of the new context menus in Windows 11 is to try to get away from that problem by not allowing the context menu to have shell extensions

That's why I've been generally onboard with them, though their execution is mediocre.

[blazing musk]

Detect the Bolt EV dual fault cells

[static schooner]

It can apparently stop wires from rubbing together, so that can't be far behind

[distant jewel]

`https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98kFh3JpIXk

[blazing musk]

Guessing the software fix is "detect state that indicates failure and stop running"

"Service Now"

https://tenor.com/view/rage-angry-mad-officespace-printer-gif-7347950

Pretty sure GM was looking for that magic bullet before they decided to replace every Bolt EV battery in existence

[ocean oar]

It's funnier though to think that they've introduced the anti-Stuxnet, of subtly re-tuning the motor of the washing machine to avoid whatever probable resonance caused it to contact the wires

I think you're probably right, but I prefer that version

[static schooner]

That...would be awesome

[blazing musk]

VFD in our Kenmore washer triggers AFCI. I have a filter I want to install inline on the appliance cord but for now I've swapped for a standard breaker.

[ocean oar]

Weirdly it's not even out of the realm of possibility, since a lot of modern appliances do essentially have VFDs controlling the motor (most of them brand it "inverter"), so there is a very real chance of reducing its peak frequency from say 60Hz to 59.8Hz

That seems less than ideal

[soft oar]

apple developers consider how things work outside the US challenge

homekit garage door openers look like overhead doors that get raised

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUabrVIQ_Sw

can't make them look like this

for now matter avoids this problem by not supporting any kind of motorized doors 🙃

[static schooner]

I always wonder if my washing machine is smart enough to spin up such that it doesn't walk across the room. If it gets out of balance, it tends to stop and slow down and then slowly speed up

I think there's some intelligence in there

[blazing musk]

Yeah. And if it can't go slow enough ours triggers an error "UE"

[soft oar]

ok but consider the benefits of a shaky washing machine

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321387496707719170/1103675880334696458/Snapinsta.app_video_121399652_968160854310369_3562772540787364487_n.mov?ex=659fee43&is=658d7943&hm=7ea29cbefa5e56dd98df70aa870b1b9986a3d8a88fd74732a1d455aa58df44c2&

[blazing musk]

🤣 but our cat sits on the dryer exhaust tube and pulls it off instead.

[soft oar]

oh no

[blazing musk]

Thankfully it's electric so no CO hazard

[ocean oar]

The laundry is one room our cats have weirdly shown no interest in

[umbral cliff]

Isn't that more of a gate opener rather than a garage door? Those do exist in the USA I'm pretty sure
But also seen plenty of cases where an icon doesn't match what the item it's representing, that's just life though

[soft oar]

what's the homekit service for Gate Opener? 😄

[tidal bronze]

@umbral cliff was crusing along and suddenly realized what a horrible person I am. 🤣

[umbral cliff]

Good for you? Glad you feel doing double the limit is fine

Just if you do it here enjoy the loss of licence, court appearance, and car impound or crush fees

Also try not to hit anyone, given at grade intersections exist on some of the highways here

[soft oar]

what is that app

[tidal bronze]

JBV1

[umbral cliff]

Also using your phone whilst driving
Classy
And stupid

[tidal bronze]

Was not actively driving cruise was set at 120mph

[umbral cliff]

Were you controlling a car that's moving?
If so you're using your phone whilst driving

[tidal bronze]

No.

[umbral cliff]

So the car was stopped?

[tidal bronze]

Self driving right?

[umbral cliff]

You said cruise control not self driving
But pretty sure in no jurisdiction does self driving mean the driver shouldn't be paying attention anymore

It's far from trusted

[tidal bronze]

It's always on that since I am on the phone.

[umbral cliff]

Dangerous

Guessing you happily drink and drive too
Since the car is driving who cares if you're drunk

[tidal bronze]

None of that Tesla stuff though 🤣

[soft oar]

@umbral cliff and using an app and expensive device to be warned of speed-limit-enforcement radars!

[static schooner]

I think the days of radar detectors are kinda gone

Apps and eyeballs these days

[tidal bronze]

Not really. Laser and Ka band is must

[soft oar]

a must for breaking the rules without getting caught

[tidal bronze]

JBV1 mixes crowd sourcing, air tickets and radar together.

[static schooner]

Laser hits the car they're aiming at

You're cooked

[tidal bronze]

Nopes

[soft oar]

while you're at it you could buy one of those devices that flips your license plate around to show a different number, I'm sure they're totally legal

[tidal bronze]

https://www.tmgamerica.com/

[soft oar]

you sure put a lot of effort into driving dangerously

[tidal bronze]

Dangerously, never.

[soft oar]

189km/h

[umbral cliff]

He calls that sensible

I presume speed of sound is when it becomes dangerous for him

For anyone else on the road, hope you notice and move out of the way fast

[static schooner]

Ah, jammers aren't detectors. And I thought jammers were illegal, but 🤷

[prisma briar]

RF/Radar jammers for sure are

[tidal bronze]

You don't have to worry until September 😀

[umbral cliff]

I just won't drive in the same state as you

[glacial knot]

Meh. Too fast too be crusing (that's around 160km/h) and not fast enough to actually be fast 🤷

[umbral cliff]

You say that from germany on proper roads for that kind of stuff
And drivers trained for it

hes doing it whilst trusting self driving and texting on his phone

[glacial knot]

Both Mercedes and iirc. Toyota have L3 systems that do

[umbral cliff]

Yes but that doesn't mean you can stop watching the road though

[glacial knot]

😂 Drivers
Though it's always obvious that the highest danger ones are the ones that never drive fast

[umbral cliff]

Full self driving is still best guess

[glacial knot]

those do

[umbral cliff]

And the law in the US/ Germany allows a driver to be playing on their phone or asleep whilst the car takes them from point a to b with no monitoring required? Operating at double the speed limit?

[glacial knot]

What speed limit? 😂

[umbral cliff]

This is the US hes in, not germany

[glacial knot]

And in the L3 conditions, it does

[umbral cliff]

Judging from the screenshot, 70mph

[umbral cliff]

Wow I'm surprised the law was changed to allow that then

I wouldn't trust a driver with L3 driving

[glacial knot]

It's only 2 vendor sso far
And both only in their home country and afaik California. But L3 autonomy is on the roads

[rough crater]

what L3 system allows going that fast?

[glacial knot]

None on roads

[rough crater]

the car knows what the speed limit is

[umbral cliff]

So whats the point of saying that its all fine
when its not on the road

I am confused

[glacial knot]

You are conflating 2 things

and I'm just not untangling them for you

[umbral cliff]

No you're being annoying

You're saying what quad is doing is perfectly fine (texting whilst driving at 180kmh) because L3 self driving exists

[golden wing]

this is neat, haven't thought to enable this entity until now but since i'm powering my home assistant yellow with PoE, I can pretty easily make Home Assistant track its own power usage lol

[glacial knot]

No

You said there's no way looking away is allowed at all

and then started moving goal posts

[umbral cliff]

You said the cars aren't on the road

Therefore the jurisdiction hasn't allowed any everyday person to use it yet

[glacial knot]

No

[glacial knot]

Yes

[umbral cliff]

so this none isn't no

[glacial knot]

Have you tried reading? 🤔

[umbral cliff]

Have you tried being nice?

Or understandable

[glacial knot]

I've tried. But there's always someone that's unable to understand anything

[umbral cliff]

By virtue of him going that fast he is not using L3 driving
Therefore the whole comparison to L3 driving is pointless

Plus fuck L3 driving, drivers are inattentive enough, having another layer of not caring and people will not be able to respond to cases on the road

[glacial knot]

You are still utterly wrong claiming no market has systems where drivers are allowed to take eyes off the road

[umbral cliff]

Ok I accept that
I didn't know there were any

didn't think they had gotten that far yet that they were starting to be sold with it

[static schooner]

I've seen videos where the drivers just laugh as their cars blow through red lights and stop signs.

[glacial knot]

They are still very limited
In both features (essentially traffic jam assistants only) and jurisdictions (respective home country and 1 or 2 states)

[glacial knot]

That's just TSLA claiming any FSD levels ☹️

[static schooner]

Yep

Hilarious! Look how bad this death trap is that we're riding in!

[rough crater]

Tesla FSD is embarrassing, always has been, always will be

[static schooner]

Lemme take a video and post it!

[umbral cliff]

Not shocking
Some people shouldn't be driving

let alone fully trusting a car

[glacial knot]

I remember a lecture I sat in, half a decade ago or so
And the prof pointed out that TSLA is trying to build a mostly working product and then probably bully lawmakers into making an unsafe system legal
While all established car manufacturers are building up driver assistant systems step by step to have reliable save self driving capabilities in the future

And we are now starting to see he was right. And the slow and steady behemoth will likely overtake in usability soon

[rough crater]

the most embarrassing thing is that Tesla’s AP hasn’t gotten meaningfully better in 5+ years

[glacial knot]

I'm looking forward to see what their robot will do

[umbral cliff]

Probably start attacking people on public transport and bikes since they're not driving cars

[glacial knot]

autonomous tandem though 🤔

fwiw. The robot does look very impressive
but it's elon, so I don't trust it in the least bit

[static schooner]

https://youtu.be/TsNc4nEX3c4?si=KvH9ZigqNCt-LyAs

Saw that on John Oliver. Couldn't believe it

[glacial knot]

That being just 2 years ago makes the current state even more impressive
https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/16/23726139/tesla-robot-update-video-shareholder-meeting

[umbral cliff]

Elon is good at making something look good for marketing
But fails at actually producing something

Eg cyber truck (or the pedestrian killer)

[glacial knot]

Also, amusingly the first thing to pop up looking for tesla robot is their recent fuckup
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/tesla-factory-worker-attacked-by-robot-that-dug-its-claws-into-back-and-arm-report/ar-AA1m46zP

[static schooner]

'Robots' and 'claws' in the same sentence. Excellent

That's exactly what robots need

[umbral cliff]

Lets give robots chainsaws next

Maybe lasers
Or guns

Actually its elon

Guns and more guns

[glacial knot]

I don't think I've seen guns. I've seen all the other suggestions

[umbral cliff]

Guns for eyes, guns for fingers

Guns for toes

[static schooner]

Shitty flamethrowers

[glacial knot]

Are welders ok? 🙂
Or heatguns

[umbral cliff]

So branded flamethrowers
But in reality rebranded bic lighters?

[glacial knot]

boring company flame throwers?

He has the inventory

[static schooner]

Collectors items now

[glacial knot]

meh, they don't post salary ranges on their careers page

[static schooner]

That's law now in CA

[glacial knot]

Jup. but it's all Nevada and Texas :/

[glacial knot]

For which position?
But that's aweful

[static schooner]

Lots in CA

yeah. It was for a technician

https://www.tesla.com/careers/search/?site=US&state=CA

[glacial knot]

I was looking at boring company, not tesla. Makes sense

[static schooner]

Embedded dev:

That's going away

Nobody should be looking for a job at the boring company now 🙂

[glacial knot]

🤷 not going to work for either

[static schooner]

Good decision

[golden wing]

i never even considered this was an option since i bought a "dumb" UPS

home assistant is awesome

[forest edge]

why is that showing km while in the us? lol

[tidal bronze]

Just for Mr Cal

[forest edge]

? you took that ss while driving that speed and switched it to km just for the aussie?

[tidal bronze]

You know how we roll down in Westside 🤣

Glad I didn't post a 230

[forest edge]

aren't you getting to the age where the reaction time to deal with shit in the road might be a little slow while distracted driving?

[tidal bronze]

Car was driving 😀

[forest edge]

didn't you buy something other than a tesla?

[tidal bronze]

Oh not Tesla, that's not my style

[forest edge]

wait, I didn't think self driving cars were able to do that at those speeds

[tidal bronze]

Max I can do auto is 125mph

[forest edge]

that makes no sense.. why is that possible?

I could see 85 tops

I have to use cruise control just to maintain 75 here on the highways otherwise I start to lag behind

[tidal bronze]

80 would be minimum

It was raining cats and dogs up in Sonoma County today

[glacial knot]

Mine disengages at 190km/h 😦

which is mostly related to the radar range. They aren't suitable for high speeds

[tidal bronze]

120mph not bad at all

[umbral cliff]

He doesn't seem to care about drink driving or using his phone
Reaction time is the least of his worries lol

[forest edge]

till you wreck then suddenly it seems bad

[forest edge]

thats rich people though.. nothing new

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge dude don't jinx me. Don't even have a parking ticket. 🤣

[forest edge]

just saying anything over 30mph during a wreck is quite scary and th faster you go, the less you see before the end lol

[umbral cliff]

Just pay anything off. Including the funeral

[tidal bronze]

Already paid for the funeral 🤣