the-workshop

[lavish shard]

The irony with this image is that I essentially did the above but my mistake was technically dumping 5v into the 3v line...

[lavish shard]

On a happier note, sent a request to Emporia for a replacement and they sent one along with no fuss so a replacement gateway should be here by Monday

Also getting the probes and stand because I'm not doing the whole soldering nonsense again

Only silly question I have is whether or not this USB to TTL device is sufficient for my needs to copy the stock firmware and then replace it with ESPHome:
https://a.co/d/04IQkKeo

[keen bone]

thats basically what most people use yes.., just make sure its off 3v not 5v since most can do both levels..

[lavish shard]

I think I may have made that mistake on the first attempt, now that I have an idea of what I am doing I won't let that happen again

If I remember correctly though, the gateway unit for Emporia is so cheap to produce they don't actually care about needing to replace it much. I like the software as well since it's easy to use but doesn't quite fit what I want for it to do moving forward, going to use it as a sort of activity sensor for things like fans and such so I can get feedback on the ones that aren't smart.

[blazing hare]

i didn't realise anyone used emporia's software vs reflashing wih esphome

[native ridge]

I just went through way more work than I expected trying to get the motion sensor to stop automatically turning on my zigbee sengled flood lights

Started with grok and worked through it until I hit my cap and got it to write a python quirk for zha. Switched to gemini after I hit the cap, and it started working on an automation to compliment the quirk an after a few iterations of the yaml file I finally got it to talk to the right cluster on the bulb.

[sweet trellis]

They have software? /s

[noble tree]

New to this server so I hope this is a good place for show and tell but I just built this and was feeling quite proud

Uses zigbee with an esp32C6

[teal anchor]

Cool. It even made truck sounds! Awesome job. Post a shameless here or a share your project in the forum and show it off!

[keen bone]

ah wonderful a popup in fusion360 that reminds me "I should start learning freecad instead."

It doesn't work at all of course; because my adguard is making it eat shit I think. 🤣

[teal anchor]

Why are you letting that horrible stuff infect your computers? (adguard, pihole, any other man-in-the-middle-DNS-blocker that decides for you what you are allowed to see...)

[keen bone]

who said autodesk even asked if I wanted the slop in my fusion360?

[sweet trellis]

I turned it off immediately

[lilac lodge]

Hi, I'm new to MCUs and making hardware, not so much software or HA. I'm looking for some advice on purchasing electronic components in low volumes specifically DRV5032FBLPGM TO-92 or equivilant. UK Mainland. I've been using a ScoutMakes DRV5032 Digital Magnetic Hall Effect Sensor from the PiHut for prototyping but want to make myself a carrier board for an nrf54, battery, and sensor eventually. My next step is to use a perfboard.

[keen bone]

what is "low volumes"

if you want it fast and right now relatively speaking you use farnell or similar.

If you can wait.. use aliexpress or LCSC to grab parts.

[mild grove]

FreeeeeeCAD

[keen bone]

may get there eventually..

[keen bone]

because its self hosted and i decide what it does?

[mild grove]

1.1 is actually really good and no licence issues

[keen bone]

I dont know why you even brought up license issues

[mild grove]

Eh. I don't expect to ever sell a design but things happen when you have a 3d scanner and I just rather not deal with that. Also this is a Linux household

[keen bone]

you're really unlikely to ever see any issues unless you start doing any serious level of business.. and then you just buy one

[mild grove]

It's mostly the Linux part. I am also just starting with cad so may as well start with the one where it's not an issues

[lilac lodge]

Low volume for this hobby project is 10 or less. I've looked at Farnell and other but they didn't have the exact thing I wanted. I think my next challenge is to figure out an alternative that they stock. Thanks

[keen bone]

10 or less is like.. go make an aliexpress cart levels

[sweet trellis]

I pulled out an old atx power supply scavenged long ago from a nas to test a WLED controller that has also been sitting around. I’m not sure what’s more concerning- the power supply randomly shutting down if I lifted it… or if no longer randomly shutting down after a couple minutes of running

[teal heath]

loose connection that expands and works better when being used due to thermal expansion?

[sweet trellis]

Oof maybe

Might have to just scavenge it for parts and use a dedicated 12v wall wart. Unless I just happened to pick a ground or 12v wire with loose connections, it’s something internal

It would be a good cheapskate source of molex-terminated wires

[restive cove]

Built an ambient light + environment sensor without any 3d printing

pretty happy with how the whole thing turned out

[keen bone]

my neurosis scream at me with the hole spacing.

[olive owl]

I hadn't noticed and now I can't look away

[teal anchor]

You need hole assistant...

[keen bone]

the different levels of DIY.. once one has a 3d printer.. you ascend

[sweet trellis]

Why does a 12V wall wart cost more than some devices that include a 12V wall wart grumble grumble

[meager quail]

https://klipy.com/gifs/rainbow-spongebob-89--k01KQ7QGX8WVMDFYM08CBCM7BAH

[hallow lance]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-money-giveittome-mr-krabs-spongebob-gif-4184913

[sweet trellis]

I have two sitting unused in my “definitely useful one day” box with no known device to pair them with

But what if I find the devices one day!?!

Jk they probably went to a cable modem. Gonna chop off those suckers later

[olive owl]

I have a large plastic container full of old power supplies that I might need someday. Anybody want a 5v 500mA power supply?

[hallow lance]

https://tenor.com/view/u-unlimited-power-star-wars-lightning-gif-14542323

[glass tangle]

Every time I have unburdenend myself of old cables/power supplies I have, within a week, needed one of those old cables or power supplies.

That bucket is a technological sin eater for you, saving you from needing its contents.

[teal anchor]

Those are good to hang ESP's around for temp or BT proxy...

[olive owl]

I feel like I can at least get rid of the ones with <1A output. In general, USB power supplies are useful for those things, but I can probably just get rid of the ones with random barrel connectors (not worth hard-wiring)

[teal anchor]

Especially if they have a USBA in them

[heady nexus]

same lol

[olive owl]

That container is such a rat nest. If I try to pull one out, every other power supply comes up with it

I spent a while adding velcro wire ties to them a while ago, but that only helps a little

[meager quail]

I worked with someone years ago that had a box like this at work, but he was insane and used zip ties to keep them organized

[heady nexus]

They bond over time, literally and figuratively

[teal anchor]

They need condoms... I mean zipper lock sandwich bags with the VA written on them with a sharpie.

(My Wife was sick of looking at my bin of nightmare fuel.)

[olive owl]

I get tired of having to use my phone camera to read the black-on-black voltage and current ratings on the bricks

I should just use a silver sharpie to write it on the brick...

[sweet trellis]

And ruin the semi-mint condition for selling on eBay to chumps people who don’t realize they just need to meet the spec?

“Like new” visible chew marks

[olive owl]

deparate times...

[restive cove]

i eyeballed the whole thing lmao

just needed vents for the temp sensor haha

[keen bone]

I mean yeah I figure since I';ve done that stuff before.. 😛

[sour haven]

Ladies and gentlemen. Gone are the days of having to ask your stupid voice assistant how long is left on a timer, only for there to be five seconds left and then have to mad scramble to cancel it or listen to it scream. Literally half of the reason I wanted to make my own alexa clone was to be able to visually display the amount of time left on my timers in the kitchen. It finally, it is so

[teal anchor]

This is probably a post for https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1284960456880029707

[thorny flower]

Can a Raspberry Pi run 3 Nema17s using boards like these? https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005008075771833.htm

[teal heath]

Probably, Based on a quick look with no real knowledge fo the specics... You will likely need an adaptor to have RS485 ports, You can probably do UART -> RS485 from the gpio but again... I do not know the specifics.

[thorny flower]

This looks like what I need.just need to figure out the voltages for A+ and B- and figure out whether there is a lib for this I can build on.

I do have and old Arduino too. That might be an easier fit than a Pi.

Eventually I might have to drive some servos in addition to the motors. Guess I'll have to play around some.

[keen bone]

you need an RS485 adapter.

the voltages are higher than an RPI can handle and they're also differential.

[thorny flower]

Yeah, I get that. Given that, using the Arduino might be a better fit. But I'll have to dig it up and check the type of board it is.

[teal heath]

<@&330946878646517761>

[hallow lance]

Gone. Will delete the others now.

[restive cove]

finally built a decentish mesh for zigbee

still have an aqara motion sensor and an ikea energy plug otw

[sweet trellis]

Children in the boiler room!?!

[olive owl]

Who else is going to tend the boiler?

Gotta learn the value of hard work!

[boreal onyx]

Right? Someone's gotta shovel that coal

[olive owl]

I should have been so lucky as to have high-quality Hue lights

[boreal grotto]

has anyone built their own duct booster?

One room in the house constantly is hot as hell want to put a booster on it but would rather build one

then again building one seems like it will cost just as much as buying

[sweet trellis]

#memes message

[boreal grotto]

well, yea LOL

[wintry plaza]

When you have to flash 22 ESP32 nodes that are hidden in each corner of your home... Man that was tedious 😅

Now switched from ESPresence to ESPHOME and trying out the new Bermuda extension's BPS latest update :v

Hopefully I don't need to rip off those 22 ESP32s and switch em back to ESPResense 🤣

Doesn't seem as precise as ESPresence, but having ESPHome is a big bonus, since I can use the ESP32s for more than just trilateration

[olive owl]

I don't miss espresence. Having a bunch of BT proxies that also do presence is great

[wintry plaza]

I have a love-hate relation.

Love the precision, hate the wifi dropouts. That's what motivated my switch to ESPHOMe

If the issue continue tho... we know for sure my wifi is the culprit xD

[dire pecan]

Do you have a dedicated 2.4GHz connection for them? I found a lot of my wifi issues disappeared when I did that (and also got rid of all the wifi bulbs 😂).

[wintry plaza]

I do have them on their own SSID set with IoT settings in Unifi

I also don't broadcast 2.4Ghz for most of my SSIDs, to further reduce interferences

65*2.4 Ghz wifi device added to the 130 Zigbee devices make for a LOT of RF noise

[dire pecan]

bwahahahahahahah

Yeah, definitely. XD

[wintry plaza]

But my lifestyle (Star trek) requires it! 😅🤣

[austere solar]

Dunno where else to put this, but I only have 2 gigs left on my rasppi 3's 32GB SD card, so I can't update the Home Assistant Core. How do y'all suggest upgrading this for fairly cheap

[teal heath]

#1284966540617449515 is probably the better place for that question. in future if not sure then #find-a-channel is the place to ask where to go.

[indigo pine]

I am looking minimum 6x timer relay for electricity with HA integration in 1 device. So I can use HA to open relay 6 for 30 minutes and realy 4 for 50 minutes etc. It will turn off after that time even if lost connection to HA.

Does something like that exist? Did you see something like that?

[hallow lance]

#1284966353798697001 with the "Recommendation" tag might know.

[indigo pine]

I was trying in the past and I didn't get attention there

[hallow lance]

But that's the place to ask for hardware recommendations. If you don't get an answer people likely don't know.

[teal heath]

There are relay boards with an ESP32 on them. So you could make something running ESPHome I imagine if custom is an option for you.

[indigo pine]

yeah, this is plan Z 🙂

[keen bone]

or you can buy DIN rail mounted relay things and then control those with an optocoupled driver board..e tc

[keen bone]

my sendcutsend order arrived.. I can now get my LFP battery stacks clamped and shit.. I just need to make the bus bars and get the packs wired now.. 🤔

[wooden mantle]

is this a good venue to show off some potentially code-breaking wiring?

i put the wagos on the side because my house's wiring is from around the 50s so i don't have a lot of extra wire to work with, so they have wago ports to clip into as i line up and install the whole assembly

[keen bone]

doesnt look bad to me. 🤷‍♂️

tho the backstab connectors are.. ehhhhh in my opinion unless the screws are clamping them internally.

[celest lake]

Hello. Can anyone offer some advice? I built a compact weather station based on an ESP8266 (NodeMCU), adding deep sleep mode to conserve battery life (connected gpio16>rst). It's supposed to wake the module for 5 minutes every 55 minutes. But it doesn't always wake up according to the timer. Sometimes it wakes up after an hour, sometimes after four. Does anyone know what might be causing this?

[teal anchor]

Yet you use wago's...

[meager quail]

that's cause wago's are great

[hallow lance]

The Wagociraptor

[keen bone]

lever lock wagos are not the same as piece of shit ancient backstab technology.

[teal anchor]

I still don't trust them.

Either of them.

[boreal onyx]

Bet that smelled great

[keen bone]

what were you even running through that

[hallow lance]

The cable looks worse than the Wago.

[mild grove]

but wagos are fire hazard or something. The internet wouldn't lie to me

[teal anchor]

It must be treue, it's from /r

[keen bone]

cant even tell what thats powering. never had an issue with wagos. 🤷‍♂️

[teal anchor]

I just found a picture that proved my point. My decision doesn't have to be true, it just has to be what I think about them. A springy holding a wire against a contact is as good as another, I don't like it.for something that gets hidden in my wall.

[keen bone]

its not exactly a spring.. its more acting as a spring when you're using the lever

the lever just lifts the gate that bites the wire

also.

Less stupid than dumbfuck wire nuts

"Hurr durr lets work harden the wires so any future work is fucked!"

[teal anchor]

I go for a screw terminalk or a wirenud with the metal spring in them of the proper size.

[keen bone]

are you putting ferrules on stranded wire tho?

... because you're not supposed to put stranded wire in screw terminals.

[teal anchor]

I have them now, and will. I have done wiring without though, that's for sure. I use ferrules all the time now

Mixing stranded and solid is bad. If they are all stranded they (All the conductor strands are the same size) it works well.

[keen bone]

🤷‍♂️ I just wago them bitches. 😄

does remind me I need to pick a new connector for my pcb rework..

[teal anchor]

I would wago a stranded to a solid I guess, that would be better than a nut.

[keen bone]

"better than a wire nut" is not a high bar.

[sweet trellis]

Solid to stranded is one of the many reasons I use wago exclusively

[keen bone]

I even technically use stranded where I shouldn't at times

though it is stupidly high rated wire so I'll probably live

16G FEP wire for flexible/not a pain in my fucking ass for not-stupid-high-power stuff for like.. light switch smart wiring that gets crowded boxes

[hot plaza]

Hello, i got pointed this way with my problem from find a channel.

I am trying to achieve a HA dasboard in Ipad2, using this succeeded method. I just need some help, since it is not as straight forward as this post leads to believe. Can someone assist me on this?

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/found-an-old-ipad-2-does-it-worth-to-usi-it-as-dashboard/377458/9

[teal heath]

It is a bit of an older post so don't know about what still works but it looks like you spin up a docker container on something then VNC into it from the ipad to give you access to a modern browser on the older device? What is the problem you are having?

[hot plaza]

Problem is to get the connection working between Ipad and the PC with virtual machine HA. I managed to get the VNC viewer to the ipad with some tricks, and tried to get the docker set up in the laptop i run the HA on. I used AI to assist me, but i had no luck connecting on the VNC.

So now i need some insight on that solution that was posted on Home Assistant community (and have confirmed as working) that where and how is that container- thingy installed…inside the HA? On the laptop with separate docker?

The post is directed to audience that know what they are talking about, so i would kindly ask for your help to get this working for me too.

I seem to have same blocks to build this, but dont know exactly how…

[hot plaza]

I mean i have the same equipment, Ipad2 with same IOS version + VNC, so it should work. What it comes down to is the installation part described in the post. Can or should this be done inside the HA? Or the Oracle Virtuabox? I am afraid i am not very experienced in this area…

[teal heath]

Running on on a HAOS system is probably not a good plan. You should spin it up on another system. do you have any other systems on your network running docker?

[hot plaza]

No, i am afraid that i only have the laptop and the old ipad i had laying around. I even have a older HA app in the ipad, but its not loading anything up, just the logo

[teal heath]

You might be able to convert that container over to a HAOS App but It may not work.
There is also THIS App (add-on) that you could try as it does a similar thing. It has not been updated in a while and I havent used it myself so I don't know about its functionality.

[hot plaza]

In theory, i could connect to this mindfreeze, with VNCview app from my Ipad?

[teal heath]

Yeah I assume so, It looks like it just hosts a VNC server so any VNC client should be able to connect to it.

[hot plaza]

Nice! I will check this later today. Its found through HACS?

[teal heath]

No it is an App (previously called Add-On). You install it by adding the repo to the App store.

[hot plaza]

Found it. Im trying to install it as im writing this, but seems that it gets stuck on ”install” phase. I will wait some time, hopefully it will pull through

What i have read, this seems exactly what i am looking for, if it does what promised. But looks like its not installing…

Edit: i updated the HA, and it works! I can connect to it and see the dashboard! Thank you @teal heath for this!

[celest lake]

Hello. Can anyone offer some advice? I built a compact weather station based on an ESP8266 (NodeMCU), adding deep sleep mode to conserve battery life (connected gpio16>rst). It's supposed to wake the module for 5 minutes every 55 minutes. But it doesn't always wake up according to the timer. Sometimes it wakes up after an hour, sometimes after four. Does anyone know what might be causing this?

[blazing hare]

Might be multiple issues - iirc the rtc in that isn't temperature compensated well so the deep sleep being off by 5 mins doesn't seem unreasonable. For longer periods, it could be something else entirely - when you say it wakes up after 4 hours, is that "it is only communicating back every 4 hours"? Cos that could easily be a connection issue rather than a sleep issue

[boreal estuary]

Is there something out there to make diy matter devices much like esphome?

Yaml config to generate matter firmware for esps and stuff

I know esphome has thread transport now but it would be cool to make my esp devices matter instead

[heady nexus]

@boreal estuary Tasmota supports Matter over Wi-Fi, although the configuration doesn't work like ESPHome

[boreal estuary]

was hoping for over thread. i avoid wifi devices like the plague

also with matter device attestation would the tasmota thing only work on HA matter rather than things like apple home?

[heady nexus]

No clue. ESPHome does support Thread FYI (although you of course need an ESP module with Thread support)

[boreal estuary]

i know and that’s the next best thing but going to uni this autumn and don’t really want to bring a HA instance with me

also, can esphome thread participate in the same network as my matter/thread devices?

[olive owl]

https://esphome.io/components/openthread/

as mentioned, their server can help more

[raven sage]

note that esphome doesn't support matter, but it can run its native protocol over thread (which, to be honest, is probably more flexible and useful if you're using esphome with home assistant)

and yeah, it'll participate in the same thread network as your other matter or homekit devices (including doing routing, if you enable that option)

[meager quail]

I have decided I have a love/hate relationship with proxmox.

mostly hate.

[hexed pier]

why so? converting from Hyper-V to Proxmox is on my short list of projects. Should I hide under the bed instead?

[meager quail]

I’m sure you’ll be fine. I’ve been using it for a while trouble free just having dns issues (I think) since moving.

[thorn ore]

I set it up to run my security camera NVR. No idea what I was doing. No idea how to update or fix it if something goes wrong. It'll be start from scratch I guess.

[blazing hare]

i'm liking it but only for the extreme ease of the set and forget community scripts

[mild grove]

Living risky with security

[meager quail]

What what it's worth Tom and hilburn, I found the "proxcord" discord server yesterday and Impact (as in the Crow, here) got me sorted in about 20 minutes. That server is a great resource.

[lavish shard]

Hyper-V is a hot mess in my experience, that and apparently USB devices cannot be properly direct mapped to the VMs in a way that makes sense

Proxmox has been fairly easy to work with in comparison, though not as user intuitive as VMWare was the last time I touched it (though because of Broadcom they are dead to me)

[celest lake]

Sorry, I noticed the reply too late. The problem is that it wakes up after a random amount of time, anywhere from an hour to 13 hours (the longest I've noticed). The firmware is configured so that it wakes up, takes 5 minutes to connect, and then takes several temperature, humidity, pressure, and battery voltage measurements (the measurement interval is set to 60 seconds). Then it powers down for 55 minutes, after which the cycle is supposed to repeat. But after powering down, it doesn't always wake up at the right time; it might wake up after 2, 3, or 5 hours (I think you get the idea).

[blazing hare]

Ok how is it saving/sending this data though, because this kind of intermittent issue is far more likely to be e.g. WiFi sucking than it is the rtc is a random number generator

[celest lake]

Data is sent via WiFi.
But I doubt it's the problem, because the signal source is about three meters from where the breadboard and assembly are currently located.

[blazing hare]

Ok, well I'd still test it, maybe connect over serial and have it spit the data out there too, see if there's any that serial gets but WiFi misses

[hexed pier]

The lack of USB passthrough is the reason I am switching. I got myself a ZWA-2 but haven't been able to use it yet.
I have a proxmox server on an old laptop ready to go and did a 10 minute test of HA functionality, but I haven't pulled the trigger for the switch yet.

[lavish shard]

Long term it’ll be a much more seamless experience, takes a bit to get the hang of how Proxmox works but it’s relatively easy in comparison at least to me