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The art channels are for art, we don't allow the usage of AI in works posted there
Okay, i deleted it
what did he post?
epstein black n white face edited slop
Its a poem from the ARG that I (assume) was said to dr santos de pillar. She treated 953 pretty good. Thats my guess.
Also thank you
Lowkey tuff
Because he loves Epstein for letting him in
Unlike Elon
Now mister ukranian lives in Israel and being guarded by IDF
still more wip
v tuber?
like the thing is it gonna be used as a v tuber avatar
yeah seriously try contacting him and see if he wants a v tuber avatar but he mostly does face cam
there is another one who uses png but he might need a 3D character hes called psp1g
ill contact him on his discord by pinging him with the finished result
yeah he uses the alien cat
oh no i mean the steam happy
i think aquas uses alien cat
yep steam happy
ye i saw your streams randomly lol
yeah i don't stream to much i get shitted on in siege and turn off stream
i don't have it
ah
i might sell my steam happy charm and buy it
its liek 5 dollars on steam
so peak
i got the yellow pattern one
its kinda expensive ngl i might save it for later
i'm kinda waiting to see valve news on lawsuit in case i need to sell it or no
lmfao
also bro how the fuck did this happen?
what situation was bro in that got him stuck like this?
gernade
096?
he was there
but i doubt this caused it
but this one dude
this one is just
i don't know
lmfao
what should i put in this room
sewers
i started making a room without thinking about what the room is
sewers
what do you mean sewers
is the middle part a death pit?
just like an extension walk way of acrobatic abatement 🙏
SON
the middle part is a room
oh
its a 4-way with a room in the center
im thinking it could be an SCP item containment
i honestly don't know maybe some sort of construction area or some office
not sure what item though
ohhh now i see the room
i thought it was just a pit
lmfao
i havent really decorated it much yet
just make it a chamber really, maybe for the talk-to-dead-device
in the empty walls add add pipes like inside the wall something like the toilet straight hallway in HCZ
i forgor what its called
also you can make it have stairs like storage room in SL
you can also make it an electrical like supply room
like a room filled with electrical boxes
dude
im just gonna make it a containment lab in the center like 127's chamber
not sure what item ill do it for
maybe ill just make a model for an scp item that isnt in game
i think 018 will fit there
hm maybe
well for 018 you would need to make like suspension gel type shit
yeah this room kinda large so it might have a small container inside
i think this better
yea
i could do some cool stuff with a 1576 lab
recorders and emf readers around and stuff
nevermind i just checked its article and its a lot less cool than i thought
im just gonna do 018
ok
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this gif so cute i'm stealing it
same
https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/654185402801848341 was art discussion? No way, you @dusky crest @potent sorrel @flint panther how could you all let this happen
I can't believe this
Im a part of shitposting and art discussing
only first one
@tough wedge @potent sorrel @granite snow @flint panther @foggy aurora @glossy acorn @wind laurel
So peak
nevr ever post in art showcase ever again
boy this is art discussion...

bro left me out of it

i forgot
I almost never post in showcase anyway
true
I should talk to someone about getting the artist role
you could
Why does bro
Take time
To make peak memes but not peak art

This gif is insane im stealing it
at people what should i do
You wouldnt get it
No one asked for 1471
Ik you did
Also why is he now suddenly making goonbait only
@barren hound your latest art looks like tarkov music cover
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we need to kill this guy already
He stopped doing good content since 2022-2023
Noticable tbh
When blender renders so dogshit you start stealing
btw look what just popped out on my feed
Unless its Alex Notfril vid
I know its goon bait then
When sfm render so good ppl start stealing jt
whar
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He has good music unironically
I know the arena theme is goatad
Making the white eyes for chaos in render was pretty fun tho
The bloom was the problematic one cuz mf its shit in sfm
Another blender supremacy
Idk what valve was thinking when making it cuz even experts hate it with passion
hello chat
hello
Nephew did not check mentions…
Never ever talk in #art-discussion again

now make another gif
What is dimawallhack doing bro
Maybe
Who's dimawallhack
me
isnt that Franzj Presents
Maybe
noxpiss sees tarkov everywhere god
its just an artsyle
dont show him concept arts
would be cool if the lower area was accessble
ngl im bored asf but not having any inspiration
make something with a reference
ig
but idk where tf you get them
ig sl is infinite source of possiiblities
find things that you like
i thought you had mr house as your pfp
then realized it was the medic from tf2
must say you have good taste in games
what this even means lol
i dont even know
edging vs gooning vs art showcase
House throwing a ball into Chase's head
being normal vs art showcase
art discussion is vip general chat

its ngl the unmoderated section of this discord
and like hostile asf
Fr
like i post here i get HATE
i post anywhere else i get compliments

hostile community im calling lucid
Warned for off topic
ig this time there's nothing with my banner
so they cannot give me a mute
or anything
What
i got muted perm for my old banner
(i still love that banner)
Hello neck
It couldnt be that bad
my lawyer advise me to go to a mental asylum
was it nsfw
if you want i can dm it to you
Alright
the only thing is you cannot get it working on the game?
modding? (offline without anticheat)
What?
What are you talking about
the screenshots seems to be on SL
It's in blender I'm sure
What
denoiser
yea that on unity would be treated so badly
if you don't do the material correctly
look at the glass on SL
you can change the model through UABEA, and adding props using other applications
So it possible to add it in-game
it is
but just offline
yeah
Oh wow
so thats why but its too much effort tbh
Didn't know that
yes you can but AC disabled and everything
and you can get banned
Catwith your model is also cool
no?
ty!
in EULA there is a text that saying you cant modify the game, only with online_mode set to false as i remember
Yea and offline mode means that
you guys are forgetting of something juking tbh
movement
this rooms for gameplay i think aren't the best
but for looking yea they are cool
cute
wtf are u talking about
i see a flaw there's too much clutter
for gameplay in my opinion it wouldn't work
im not even gonna ask
probably for roleplay
What?
wdym what
i feel like juking or getting out of situations like SCPS etc.. could be complex in an area with that much clutter
Uhhh what area are you talking about?
Right.
damn, all shader all materials broken
there is no space for juking
corners are cut
greyroom of pure horror
thats what i mean 939 is massive
and has a wireless attack range lol
its crazy how wireless it is
Juking sucks anyways
Worst take im sorry bro😭
Juking isnt even part of scpsl itself it's just what players created
Not devs
Would be actually awesome if the environment was juke-hostile
Neutral I'd say but its depe ding on whos playing scp tbh
Newbies could be jukable even on flat surface
Yeah
juking is like entirely possible because of jumping imo
so many jukes in some rooms needs you to jump


Me when were discussing our arts them elpipe pops out
goode watching this smart fucking channel
@potent sorrel fun fact, there’s an add on for blender that allows you to import SFM models and materials directly
Facility guard when 3 random chaos breach in with their experiment ex ntf member and the backup only arrives when all die
I know
Source something
yeah how about you do that noxpiss
It does both dmx and .mdl
xport all yo shit to blender
What
Does he know what
Given the purpose of this room, I decided to focus mainly on the anti-camping aspect. As you can see, there are three ways in total & two ways to directly access the lower section of the armoury
There is a lot of space visible between the inside of the interior & the window here
hmm so it would be like a server room?
Something like this, except with the option to hide properly here
Overall, I experimented with a more "open" style of the magazine side of this room, there are many ways to move around this room. I can already see a potential issue with this part since it is not obstructed at all - it's a straight line, which 14.0 beta taught us not to do
I wonder if this section should be "enclosed" and have a HCZ door here
Nevertheless, I think the current design achieves what I originally wanted from the corner armoury
2nd it could be used to be like used to expose you
True. Since you can't really hide between the passage, you can use the space where the stairs are located
For now, the idea remains the same
is darkviperAU in any new drama?
bro used to get to any drama possible that i got so burned out of seeing videos about it
darkviperau is the voice actor of gta 6

Bahahahha i love it
No way it's the flamingo song guy
Do you remembered on my TikTok stream
I was listening to it
I was the fat guy in a modelling software
oh shii
Do you remember?
yea
correlation zero
Perfect positive correlation
careful bro they got your balls
free speech is no more
I wonder for what reason I got banned
I strive for the day I'll be able to only communicate via gifs
Mods are just admin abusing atp
Damn I just learned the person who made this is still in the server
who is the person?
@tough wedge literally after 10 mins of helldivers it crashes my pc
I guess all lowest settings is my only hope
what is your PC
blender crashing and now HD2
Amd radeon 5700 xt
R5 5500
32gb ddr4
Blender doesnt rlly crash on anything its just when i do cycles
find some video of what you should turn off to get better optimization in Helldivers 2
Gpu on middle consumes 6gb as it says
And mine is 8gb only so i guess lowest is my only way
some setting being on low doesn't really change much as i remember
My real personality… isn’t sfm as you think
Embed fail for me
this looks even more like shit
lies
I know this will fall on deaf ears but do keep this channel to discussing Artwork that people have made in #art-showcase or if you wish to post your W.I.P creations.
This chat as of late has become unbearable for those who actually want to participate with those who want to post their art, so please keep it civil or we will need to remove your ability to send messages in this chat.
excellent
testing some shi
Better render than noxplis’s btw
damn (blender btw)
Lacks contrast I would say
Should make a separate channel for artist general or something then bc in all my time being here that's all this channel has been used for
Comparing first render is a strong argument
completely ignores what dino said
I didnt see it sorry
#art-showcase message I like this :)
Acting like you don’t do the same, noxpiss sloplis or some
I do same yes but i do art too
ok this is on deliberate @glacial sedge
I was only spreading the gist of what they were saying for us to do

!warn @sour horizon off-topic in #art-discussion
Shit got so bad in art discussion i knew it woule happen
man they send off topic gaming clips in #art-discussion and you guys literally do nothing about it and someone gets warned for sending a gif
It is true that this chat has been very chaotic and not what its supposed to be used for lately.
That is on us for not checking in and moderating it, now please don't add to the list of warnings that might follow if this behaviour continues
ok
oh i didnt realise i was in art discussion
can you say the same
This looks cool
Gif discussion
Peak
https://zer0twois.strokinit.it/🐀/4lvseswt.png
Does anyone know how to unpack this?
because i have a map from a game im deleting sections but they are packed togheter
so if i delete something even other section are deleted
Don't you have an option with the right clic ?
its in a packed format that is made by nintendo for nintendo switch
But i found a solution
and its really stupid
i can delete one by one
it seems every rock in the map is connected to what i want
Ah. So it's a single mesh I guess
look at this i would've never believed but this section has the highest model for the tree i was searching
so i can now make render with it
its the only place in the game where its high quality enough to be visible else it would be a skybox which is so low quality
Fair
they make me go to work now
it is a 3D model?
or what im so confused?
but looks cool
Clip studio perspective grid
crazy
Your lighting always impress me
this is frigging peak
holy moly :O
I need to make new trailer for scp sl, last attempt failed
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see i was right, he will make some other animation idea and will scrap iron eclipse just like with CSGO trailer but SL
Csgo was kinda scrapped cuz i lacked hcz obviously and probably gonna be my first blender animation
you still gonna use sfm for animating or switch fully to blender?
both partially
but first
tarkov after work finally
sfm mf´s gonna make peak or slop literally no between
#art-showcase message
this is pretty cool I like the part where he chops the arm off
#art-showcase message where
gore sounds are literally there
and for the gore maybe they meant the part where the hand comes off?
that's it? there is no need for spoilers then i think
i don't that counts
I mean creators choice 🤷
You can tell them that tho
@dusky crest what's your opinion on this
#art-showcase message 🔥 reacted for my man Jason's snazzy jacket
Bro even put a spoiler on it

Where volumetric
Blender
I meant in 02 rendee
rim light
@sinful cradle wheres volumetric light?
you cannot see it but there's fog
i didn't exaggerate
but there is
let me show you
here you can see it
?
@potent sorrel look (ignore the voice acting, its not mine plus its wip)
and the whole work is wip also
The Так точно somewhat has no emotions
because its not synced yet
i havent animated this part yet
You couldve made them like, speak slower as theyre aware of chaos's or whatsover is following them
Ones sacrificing himself and other cant accept it but does
If u get what i mean
Noxplis always complaining
!langru
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not a single compliment
Probably should fog come from moonlight
BUDDY voice acting is NOT mine
As if bro wasnt calling my shit slop all time wym
Im just giving tips
Yeah cuz no rim light
I guess bro
Finished version better be cinematic cuz i will kill
it will be 1:30 minutes teaser
its a commission actually
How long animation itself
the whole thing 1:30
Scpsl does really lack long animations
i dont know anything about a movie or something
they told me to make a teaser
and i will make a PEAK teaser
hollywood and shit
How much are you getting paid?
I do trust on you making it peak but the voice acting should defo be redone
450$
good shawarmas
Only 20?
but it will be like 100 for station shawarmas
Idk too lazy to do math
In vienna they cost atleast 5 to 7
The shawarmas in my local shop cost 10€
what is this voice acting bro quit already
But they’re fine af
I’m also in vienna buddy
europe lowkey be robbing people
2 euro max for shawarma
Voice acting probably should be like, slower and dramatic imo
but i cant change the lenght because all the mocap anims were recorded
In Russia there is nothing to rob from people
I keep forgetting bro has mocap while everyone does key by key
ive got 128gb ram shut up
I'm sorry
Mr.OneRenderPerYear
and im lowkey cool with that
I was talking bout myself but alr i guess
!langes
Hola, este es un servidor de habla inglesa. Puedes unirte al servidor localizado de la comunidad española aquí.
and you could be next
!langKZ
no servers for boratstan
They will threaten to bomb you
Not even his art

Just weeks ago we had a dude with literal mlp r34 as profile wtf bro
And he was RUSSIAN what a wonder
Notfrils biggest opp
But yes notfrils content got so bad his only content is goonbaits
There’s levels to ts
alex notfril is the greatest slopper after noxplis
Idk noxplis doesn’t do 1-2 sloppy shorts per day
he makes some megaslop
@potent sorrel hows your iron slop
Fake news
AT the juggernaut part
where he shoots
some like that
IRON ECLIPSE is not real, but metalelpipe`s scp sl movie is
lighting is weird if i be honest
i love abstract lighting you know
wait till shen calls it fortnite lighting for the hundred time when it is not really a fortnite lighting anymore
No rim light
the lighting is like silent hill lmao
Looks hella flat
Try adding props or type shit
well its actually a good idea
Actually being helpful unlike noxplis
noxpiss
if you wanting this i can
just add some volum light it looks dead
as yes props maybe 1 or 2 dead bodies cuz per voice acting theyre holding someone off
Needs more light sources as well
give them guns and maybe dust particles around
dead fortnite lighting
@flint panther https://youtu.be/si7UAgvBd4Y
In this first episode of Virtual Cinematography we'll be using only one light source to get cinematic results!
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Link to 3D mocap model (...
You’re welcome
Bro just placed one sunlight and called it a day
it takes multiple light sources not just 3
not to mention
they paid you enough
Sunlight is lowkenuingly the worst light source for the in-door scene
Almost never used it
camera placement on second feels off
and we ALL love DOF
there's limits to ts
i had a different plan but it didnt work out
add some shit to those damn walls they ruin the whole shit
blood or what
nothing to add
idk medkits, wires, cracks
your scene overally looks dead and boring if i be honest, add some shit
just do like tarkov
random bullshit that makes no sense but also makes sense go
@potent sorrel but im not overloading my scene with ton of shit like you do
and calling it scenebuilding
first valid argument made
and yours are literally blasted with everything
jarvis, insert "random bullshit go go" gif here
bro thinks using blender makes him automatically an good artist
bro thinks using sfm makes him special
bro thinks
Bro
hubert reacted lmao
cuz i dont do shiposts or meme posts
your entire carrier is a shitpost
2 art contests won
multiple pinned aswell
1 art contest won, almost won second
almost never counts
multiple pinned works aswell, and bunch of not pinned works that should be pinned
bla bla bla nerd
@granite snow is this tuff so far?
Ai?
Sorry but where are the nipples
Tuff
i removed them for goonplis's sake
But he’s not gay
953 accident

@potent sorrel are you smashing sukuna or passing
Dude not everything has to be evenly lit up like a marvel movie
Marvel doesn’t even have this much of lighting🙏🙏🙏
Tho imo it could use some… color grading…
Mmm splittoning
Aces…
Blame me
I helped him learn blender
Gosh darn you
@flint panther are u using mocap
Yes
cool
you should do some finger movements and stuff just so the hands arent completely stiff
I might if I won’t be lazy
It wouldn’t be seen anyway
i kinda noticed in the wonderful anniversary collab too its pretty noticeable
but fair enough
Some… industry… standard… glareslop… arri… red… the foundry…
Yeah because I’m lazy
Show me the person who love animating fingers
i love animating fingers!
That’s literally the most boring and repetitive part
The kid named finger
I kinda caved into it
its not that bad if you use individual origins or whatever the option was and select all the bones
lets you bend them smoothly
After doing countless 3rd person reloads for valravn
man i really wanna make a stepped 2s animation rn
Fingers are another 10 arms
puss in boots last wish combat style
You don’t have to animate fingers like arms, most of the time it’s just interpolating/overshooting between poses
I mean it’s still boring
And most of the times necessary
Fingers do have a huge impact on the perception of the animation
it looks like... mocap slop without the added details like that
I actually have fingers on my mocap
like one of those youtubers that uses mocap and talks over it in a commentator voice
But data is straight up garbage
It’s easier to animate by hand
Ok now who loves doing lipsync?
✋✋✋
no. no lipsync
i actively avoid it by just putting the speaking icon above SL characters if i need them to talk lol
Lips
Wyatt has his characters wearing facial masks to avoid it
Not all the time
He makes animations sometimes
I might start making clickbait videos just for fun
Like
Scp 67 versus scp 682 mustard mango
Burger
With skibidi song on the background
Peak performance
Total brain annihilation
This is arts discussions
Ohhhh I forgot about Labubus
Well actually we are discussing art
Mods can we ban this guy
He’s sending gifs in #art-discussion
Isn’t this punishable via execution
bro i was drawing for 5 mins what tf happed here already
Better than noxplises slop btw
@potent sorrel still ignoring the allegations
Tuff, but needs more movement like birds in second shot for example
might have a jet go across the camera if i can get a decent model
Lowk genius
Can’t be used in any commercial work, only for personal use!
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There you go
Looks decent enough
You need f - model?
any american or british one really
f-whatever or typhoon
ill look for one you dont have to
looks tuff
truth nuke
they should make a gif discussion channel exclusively for the artists 
add random soldiers walking around
No rim light
Who tf is sukuna
no ball knowledge
My balls br9
@flint panther i send your render to my friend, but i didnt tell him that its your i just said to rate
He said your scenes are dead, no context, lacks emotions and lighting
From blendrjutsu sourcekaisen
I know Blyat
That’s why it’s wip
#jjk #anime #jujutsukaisen #agenda #entertainment #viralshorts #shorts
And also these are not stills
Calm down
One thousand radius
I guess bro
Wym
Newer one is just a rotoscope
Made to look completely like an original
Original is Patient Zero yes but its gonna be way more different after that marauder kill
Well it is way different just intro is alike
I’m talking about tarkov one
Iron eclipse is pretty original I think?
Tarkov was just yes 1:1
But first scenes are completely the same
Thats what i just said
And look what happens when you try to make something original a little
Everything you are talking about is in your work
False buzz
I mean I might be a little toxic right now

Oh god
Im just trying to tell that larpmaxxing isn’t good when you are actually try to criticise
I guess bro
And also you are very bad at ragebaiting
I guess bro
Ishowlarp
You're not helping.
I played Tarkov when you didn’t even know this game existed
bro thinks hes part of the conversation
should i keep the lighting simple or should i add something fancy
bro will get banned
maybe make the room dark and the red light source spinning like emergency light
type shit
that would have more aura
Once u add rotating light. Add rim light trust
then ive got to figure out how to make a good ocean scene
whats a rim light
for once rim light is ass idea
rim lights arent needed here
Bros whole contribution to is to ragebait
Dont even know whats the scene abt
So i guessed
just a simple camera zoom in to the radio
bro thinks its all rim and light
the light isnt strong enough for a rim light really
How do you set max distance in cycles?
for what?
lights
what do you need this distance for?
like you want light light up shit in 67 km?
nephew
cousin
yo whats up
just add dboy collection as a light group for the source
finally learning proper rim light
oh ye
BUT
in sfm you can change light max and min distance
caps lock im so scared
thats cuz its ass
never bring that up again
what
Oh wait I’m actually stupid
!warn @dusky crest unnecessary toxicity
art discussion bluds when the task is to not spam gifs
why is the main light excluded from the render
what
there are no light links and its not hidden from render
why is blender ragebaiting me
Art is pretty cool

It isn't off topic bro I swear I'm just confused
Not the channel for it
not everything needs a gif reaction
this is pretty cool
There is
imo if its just 1 from same person its fine but if every other message is gif then its problematic
lets just say in a span of 1 hour
discord mod moment
no there's not
So off topic
you getting warned buddy
Ohhh I feel offtop sooo much
Noxplis when the task is to work on Operation: Iron Eclipse instead of spamming gifs
Offtopping it
ong, it's pretty good artwork
hey why is my art getting deleted
You get softbanned automatically when you reach a 2nd warning point, which deletes all your recent messages
Our modbot is old, don't ask me why it does that because I don't know 
Cassie is old as time
How long do warns last for if you don't mind me asking?
Just for future ref
First warnings expire in 4 weeks, Second warnings expire in 8
Im doing the juggernaut shooting part
With barrel, chamber close cam
Probably also add the camera on ground looking up while the casings fall down

Maybe fill light a little?
painted cool rocks
So peak
Bounce light my ass
good for now but i have to change the blood at the radio it fucks with the glare
Epic entrance with gore
You should totally change sea texture for something more detailed
its just a wip it isnt a render
Good then
i just chucked it together in a couple mins
I like it
i have all the time in the world to get it looking great with weather like clouds and shit because the animation needs the new surface which is getting ported to blender in december at the earliest basically
Searching ur pfp per google gives your yt instantly
im not making all this for it to finish on the current surface lol
i havent changed it in years
i nicked a chinook model from sketchfab and im gonna use that unless northwood makes something better
I literally used truck model even if i have ci car
Well cuz u cant expect 20 armored men from toes to head fit into that clown car
yeah lol
hope they have something big like a chinook to transport all these mtf
unless they are just going to make them arrive in trucks
Max ppl who can be realistic transported in the current ntf heli is like 4-6
clown helicopter
@glossy acorn If you disagree with a Moderators decision please bring it to me, it's what I'm here for
That said, intentionally trying to make subtle jabs at someone doing their job isn't fair or respectful and crosses the line into just straight up bullying, which I won't tolerate
3 If be specific
Pilot
Co pilot
Atleast 4 steats, 2 can sit by side
It’s bell 206
"Экипаж: 1 (пилот).
Вместимость: до 4 пассажиров плюс пилот"
So if counting copilot it will be 3 and without 2
Almost a guess
@potent sorrel he ate them
Serverblight intro ahh
@onyx goblet is that gmod?
no
Off topicing

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