general-chat

[still moth]

I don't have this vector, this is just a screenshot in OW

[mystic tundra]

Mate idk about you but scaling in Unity works how you'd expect it to work

[true sky]

Whats figma

[karmic anchor]

incorrect

[still moth]

UI design and prototyping software

[mystic tundra]

Scaling it by x makes it wider, y makes it taller and z makes it longer

[true sky]

Ok

[karmic anchor]

figma nuts in your mouth

[true sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1346856913274540171/1426228327730905088/togif-4.gif

[karmic anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/dunk-win-boo-yeah-basketball-stickman-gif-5454795

[mystic tundra]

So can you send an example or something

[karmic anchor]

im gonna go out on a limb and say whoever made the vector didn't bother checking if it could scale properly

[icy flume]

I'm gonna peel my fucking skin off

Good night!!!

[karmic anchor]

have fun!!

[pseudo hull]

The entire arrow is diff tho

lol

if it were a scaling issue the shape of the arrow woudl stay the same

like the arrowhead is way larger and the bottom part has a sharper diagnol

I think they're actually just two diff logos

[true sky]

this guy thinking he einsten or soem shit

[karmic anchor]

those are for sure two different images aren't they?

ah i see the source

ok, so i can actually answer your question, jank

[still moth]

What I'm saying is I doubt they did just fuck up while scaling the image up/down. You get this from using the transform function instead of scaling objects in apps like figma, illustrator, etc. The artifact you get from that is subtle increases in size, in the opposite direction of the object's anchor point. I have no idea how they could make the arrow smaller while the rest is bigger or vice versa if they just scaled it. I also can't figure out why the angle of the arrow's edge is different either. So I'm left to assume they are different images. In which case...

Why the fuck would you ever waste your time making two extremely slightly different icons for the exact same function, not even in a different menu from each other?

[true sky]

Text wall

[karmic anchor]

Overwatch is probably using two separate prefabs (or whatever the equivalent to a prefab is in blizzard's game engine) for the like settings type items in that menu vs the control rebinding type ones. At some point, probably during the development of OW2, some junior UI designer probably wanted to update all the arrows to the new image (which im guessing is gonna be the second one that looks cleaner) and just missed the ones in the control rebinding menu.

[karmic anchor]

yeah, they didnt fuck up by scaling the image, there is very little doubt in my mind that it is just a fully different image

in fact i would be willing to bet someone has noticed this and has reported it as a bug and they have been sitting on it not fixing it for like more than a year

[true sky]

They just resized the controls bar setting to be A lil more bigger for maybe readability ig

[still moth]

Mind you, I don't even make money from NW every month. But designers at Blizz make like the same salary as my father who has worked as an engineer for over 20 years...

[true sky]

And decided to make a new icon

[karmic anchor]

and yet they arent immune from hiring bad ui designers

[still moth]

it irritates the hell out of me when tiny mistakes like this are made in games that are worth millions of dollars

[karmic anchor]

also i hope your dad is making more than like 50k/yr

[karmic anchor]

yeah um

hate to break it to you but they've made way stupider mistakes with way bigger consequences several times over

and they still do it fairly regularly

[still moth]

I'm aware

it's just a tiny detail I noticed recently

while trying to see how other games solve a problem I'm currently working on

[karmic anchor]

ironically, there is far worse quality control at AAA studios than there is at indie studios

[still moth]

IT'S STUPID!!!!!

[karmic anchor]

usually because at indies, they dont have qa guys, they just test everything themselves

[still moth]

also average UI designer salary at Blizz is $70k give or take

which is INSANE

[pseudo hull]

I doubt they made two separate iconsd

they are probably just assets found online

it's a fucking arrow

why spend the time designing one when there is probably thousands online

lol

[karmic anchor]

speaking personally, i try not to let bugs i know the cause of/can figure out the cause of go unaddressed, but i am told that a lot of people in industry send off code they either don't test or don't care to fix small issues with

[still moth]

Bad design practice, especially given the scope of a dev project like OW

[karmic anchor]

one is probably from an old project/internal library, the other is probably one made specifically for OW in the style of their UI

[still moth]

You reuse assets when you need to cut corners and aren't going for a particularly unique style

You make your own thing when you're working on a passion project

[pseudo hull]

I mean

[karmic anchor]

also, you cant get away with using "assets found online" anywhere near as easily when you're a studio like blizzard

[pseudo hull]

I don't think it's that deep

lol

[pseudo hull]

me when whatever that studio was that used that persons art without credit

[karmic anchor]

if it came out that arrow was from the internet and blizzard didnt give credit, they would probably have a marathon situation on their hadns

[pseudo hull]

hey so john miniwave

quick question

[still moth]

I once had a design job application rejected because I misaligned an arrow icon by two pixels :')

[pseudo hull]

if you're a game designer then you must know that larry's dimension is like

terrible game design

yeah?

[karmic anchor]

@amber lintel you got repo?

its a free weekend

i want to play repo

[pseudo hull]

I bought repo just for my friends to never buy it when they were the ones wanting it

🙁

[nova saddle]

Yo does anybody play dispatch

[amber lintel]

yes but I'm currently submitting university applications

[karmic anchor]

ok

[amber lintel]

give me like 1.5 hrs

[karmic anchor]

jeez

itll be 11 if you take that long

[still moth]

Me fighting for my life to get into a major I already was accepted into 2 years ago

at the exact same college

[karmic anchor]

game too expensive for something i can effectively just experience by watching a no commentary youtube video

[pseudo hull]

bro john miniwave

why did u ignore me

lol

[nova saddle]

Bro, buy it now

[karmic anchor]

be grateful you're not trying to apply for jobs

[still moth]

I quite like staples

[karmic anchor]

do you have 30 bucks to give me

[still moth]

unironically the nicest entry level job ive had so far

[nova saddle]

Bro, it's just $30. Some games are f****** $80

[karmic anchor]

is it entry level or like a retail worker job

[pseudo hull]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-emoji-smiley-thinking-scratching-head-gif-17835192

[karmic anchor]

yes, and i currently have a regular income of $0

[nova saddle]

I'm just saying I'm just happy this patch is not $80

[karmic anchor]

so no, i won't be spending $30 bucks on a game i can watch like a tv show on youtube

[still moth]

like, 16 year old me could have totally done this job. and probably not developed sciatica in the process like i did working at subway and a gas station lol

and 16 year old me was fucking stupid

[karmic anchor]

was genuinely asking

like if staples is hiring like programmers or something...

[pseudo hull]

@karmic anchor not trying to be an ass but I directly addressed you twice now 😭

[karmic anchor]

? didnt see

whats up?

[pseudo hull]

^

[karmic anchor]

whats terrible about it to you?

[nova saddle]

Bro, I was feeling the same way but I realized I need to support this Dev group so they can make more games like this

[still moth]

oh, no, I do retail here.

Staples is like any major company. They have so many services, they def hire programmers and designers. They just aren't on my radar rn.

[pseudo hull]

it's basic terrible game design

it's up to chance rather than skill

lmao

it punishes the player for playing the game

It's like the two most important things not to do

[karmic anchor]

if it were up to skill, then eventually, most players would be able to escape from it 100% of the time. The alternative to having it is not having it and giving larry a kill like the other scps

[pseudo hull]

I'm sure there's a solution in between the two

[lone marlin]

hi!!!

[nova saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/dispatch-dispatch-game-robert-robert-robertson-dispatch-robert-gif-2929884809355461067

[pseudo hull]

Randomly generated mazes are up to chance but can still be skill based

[karmic anchor]

you have to remember that larry not having a 100% chance to actually get a kill when he attacks players makes him dramatically weaker than all the other scps

[still moth]

better game design would be adding another "fuck you i hate you bitch die" button

[pseudo hull]

me when d boys and 3 pink candies

[still moth]

there is a video out there of me experiencing an ungodly crash out and it's not even 3 days old

[karmic anchor]

i worked pretty extensively on 106, so i've explored a lot of the big problems with his design quite a bit

[still moth]

the day someone posts it here is the day i lose my job (this is a joke HR)

[pseudo hull]

I understand this, but I think that it could be changed to still work in a way that doesn't make it feel like you are just punished for choosing the wrong door

[karmic anchor]

well... you are being punished for choosing the wrong door

[pseudo hull]

Yes.. which is bad game design

[inner walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/ssj3-dragon-ball-daima-daima-issabreh-goku-gif-11675713485127703300

[pseudo hull]

since it's out of your hands

[karmic anchor]

the way you're looking at it, you see it as you being entitled to continue living once you've been sent to the pocket dimension, when in reality, its actually 106 who is entitled to getting a kill when that happens

[pseudo hull]

What?

I'm seeing it as what it is

[karmic anchor]

when you escape from PD, you effectively have gotten lucky and earned an extra life

[pseudo hull]

taking something like that out of the players hands is textbook bad game design

but I do think there is a balance

[karmic anchor]

then you must really hate all the other scps

[pseudo hull]

How? lol

[karmic anchor]

they dont even give you a chance to keep playing when they kill you

[pseudo hull]

Okay?

you can still skillfully avoid other scp's

there's ways to do that

[karmic anchor]

you can do the same with 106

[pseudo hull]

Yes...

[still moth]

I think you guys are arguing two different things

[pseudo hull]

I don't think you understand my point

larrys dimension is just fucking terrible design because it gives you no options other than DIE, escape or DIE

you either die from being in there too long

or you're forced to choose and maybe potentially live

[karmic anchor]

no i do, its just that what you're saying is your opinion and not an objective fact

[pseudo hull]

uh

search up

"what is bad game design"

[karmic anchor]

when you put a coin into a slot machine, you can either not spin it and lose, or spin it and win or lose

you are expected to be picking a door and walking through it

[pseudo hull]

Yes.

[karmic anchor]

the reason you die if you stay there too long is because if you can just live there forever, then the rounds would last forever

[pseudo hull]

If you'd let me finish I do think there is a way of balancing out the fact that it's poor game design

[karmic anchor]

you should stop calling it poor game design

[pseudo hull]

the amount of doors in larry's dimension doesn't have to stay the same the entire round

[karmic anchor]

its really not

[pseudo hull]

It really is

It's not jsut my opinion

[karmic anchor]

ok

[pseudo hull]

it's what they teach you

not to do

lol

[karmic anchor]

its what who teaches you?

the lord master of game design?

[pseudo hull]

In game design classes?

like hello?

I shouldn't have to explicitly say that

[lone marlin]

hi chat

[karmic anchor]

you know i have a masters degree in game design right?

[pseudo hull]

Okay, cool?

[fallow kite]

Aint workin 2 well

[karmic anchor]

the shit you learn in classes is some guys opinion over how games should be made

[fallow kite]

Rofl

[pseudo hull]

so you should know that what I'm saying isn't just an opinion

lmao

[karmic anchor]

its not an objective fact

[pseudo hull]

lmao

okay so go take a survey

asking all SCP:SL players

[fallow kite]

Redditor vs SL dev

[pseudo hull]

if they think Larry's dimension is bad game design

[fallow kite]

Im fucking crying

G

[karmic anchor]

i dont really need to

[pseudo hull]

and see how they answer

[fallow kite]

Its terrible

[pseudo hull]

Because you know that they'd have the same opinion?

lol

[karmic anchor]

i know that the answer is its a flawed but necessary design

[fallow kite]

106 pocket dimension is bunz g

[fallow kite]

Flawed and dog shit man

Shit b sad man

[karmic anchor]

its not "bad game design" because it is something that we need in order to achieve our goals with the scp with the resources we have

[pseudo hull]

Bruh

[karmic anchor]

but unfortunately, in a game like SL, 106's pocket dimension is either going to be a formality, or some sort of random chance exercise

[pseudo hull]

a better way to handle larry's dimension

have the doors increase in number throughout the duration of the round

the start of the round there's less chance to die by larry but still there

later in the round more doors open up leading to more chance of dying

[karmic anchor]

so you'd like it to be the same as it is now, but with less choices

that doesn't make it better game design

it just makes it simpler, but still flawed

[pseudo hull]

You didn't read any of what I just said

[still moth]

Correct me if I am wrong but I think Smokey's point was that dying in PD feels like undue punishment, which is fair, because the "choice" you are given is a total illusion. You've already been punished by being put in PD, but now you will die, but sometimes you won't. Orhu is talking about PD being the punishment to being outplayed by 106 beforehand. Neither of these contradict each other.

What one considers good game design is entirely subjective, though. I've shadowed a few game design classes in high school and in college, and this always seemed like an accepted truth. But that is just my two cents

[fallow kite]

Holy shit youre both dorks

Im crying

[karmic anchor]

"have the doors increase in number throughout the round"

do you know how PD actually works?

[pseudo hull]

2 doors that switch randomly each time a person dies

yeah

it's fuck ass design

better than the 1 door

[karmic anchor]

yeah, you're correct

[pseudo hull]

but still shitty design

[pseudo hull]

exactly my point yes

[karmic anchor]

so what your suggesting is just gradually increasing the chance of dying throughout the round

sure

[pseudo hull]

No...

It'd still be the same chance at the end of the day

[still moth]

You should re-explain then, because that is also how I interpreted your idea lol

[pseudo hull]

Just at the beginning of the round you'd have less chance of dying because there is less doors to choose from, and then you can switch it back to being only 1 randomly switching door

instead of 2

[karmic anchor]

right, so increasing the chance of dying throughout the round

[amber lintel]

you joined in 2023?

[pseudo hull]

It doesn't increase the chance anymore from what it is now?

lmao

[still moth]

yeah I don't really follow

[amber lintel]

or 224?

*2024

[sleek estuary]

yeah i dont see how that would make it better?

you got touched by an SCP 2 times, you should be happy to be given the chance of escape imo

[amber lintel]

I mean, the practical chance of dying to 106 still kind of applies, moreso with the damage scaling now

[pseudo hull]

I mean that's fair

[karmic anchor]

ya, current iteration is a bunch of my and cross's work, adapted into simpler changes by onionman

[amber lintel]

as the round goes on more bodies will pile up, with varying amounts of loot

this means that you can't discern which paths are clear based on bodies and/or loot necessarily

wtf

jank name change

[still moth]

[karmic anchor]

for example, the speed boost + increased emerge speed when teleporting with hunters atlas were both changes onionman used from a doc cross and I wrote

[pseudo hull]

I would like try to explain better but my fingers are quite ltierally freezing

[still moth]

I didn't know we were all bragging about our job titles here

[amber lintel]

[unemployed]

well, I do have a job, but I'm probably changing that

[still moth]

I have 1.25 jobs

[amber lintel]

northwood doesn't pay

[still moth]

It does

[amber lintel]

not like

[karmic anchor]

they do, just not enough to live off of

[amber lintel]

living waves Imea

[still moth]

that is why I said 1.25

[amber lintel]

I know a lot of people get paid by bounty

[karmic anchor]

yeah

but you also only are expected to work like

as you are able

[pseudo hull]

Anyone hear about the Monty Hall problem?

[karmic anchor]

so its not a huge deal at all

[still moth]

Northwood paid for me to meet my partner irl for the first time

[pseudo hull]

it'd basically be like that with larry's dimension

[still moth]

it does not pay my bills

[karmic anchor]

you cannot monty hall the pocket dimension

i am not adding goats into the pocket dimension im just not doing that

[pseudo hull]

why not tho

it'd be so fun

[amber lintel]

neat

[karmic anchor]

im just not doing it

[pseudo hull]

larry's sacrificial tokens

[still moth]

Anywho I am biased in favor of anything anti-pocket dimension because I very much hate hardcore RNG in a game with any kind of skill expression. So I am going to expel myself from this conversation

[karmic anchor]

what how

[pseudo hull]

what does bro have against goats

[karmic anchor]

it would be far too silly

[still moth]

I believe in total I have made about $2.3k from Northwood over the span of 13 months

[amber lintel]

you're so real for that

[still moth]

Most of this was accumulative

[pseudo hull]

I was going to say it'd be better to have it reduce the number of doors instead of increase but no it wouldn't

because spawn wavesa

larry would jsut die immediately

[still moth]

Larry is one of my least favorite SCPs to play personally. I am a 939 player all the way kek

[amber lintel]

I enjoy playing 106, 173 the most

[pseudo hull]

I actually really like playing larry

[amber lintel]

079 pre-update because it was so nuanced

but 079 now is like rolling a dice

it doesn't matter how skilled you are because sometimes you will just get unwinnable situations due to door RNG

and travel time

[pseudo hull]

the issue with playing against larry is that your death doesn't feel deserved like all the other SCP's

yes he hit you twice

I get it

but the fact that you still live and then die due to RNG

SUCKS

[amber lintel]

I do agree that with the recent 106 changes, it doesn't feel like I "lost" due to lack of skill when I do die. I also think the design of 106 is in a meh spot rn. His abilities mean that a bad 106 is chasing you around heavy for the entirety of the pre-spawnwave time.

then you die to privates because the one item you picked up was a JHP com-18 and they have rifles and body armor

msotly

sometimes I will brain off and die and that's alright

[pseudo hull]

bro is over here trauma dumping

lol

[amber lintel]

no problem there

[amber lintel]

no I swear this happens all the time

it's why in normal game I DC maybe 75% of class-d rounds

[pseudo hull]

@still moth

[still moth]

I did none of this

[pseudo hull]

u should fix it tho

[amber lintel]

jank I don't actually think has done anything but the respawn overhaul bar

which

[still moth]

I'm cooking chat trust

[still moth]

I was basically asked to make dev art

[amber lintel]

yeah

I heard

[pseudo hull]

the main menu looks so fucking boring 😭

[amber lintel]

it is dev art

[pseudo hull]

I want to be excited when I launch SCP

[amber lintel]

it irks me that clicking the red button adds a feature instead of removing it (like the buttons mute their respective chats)

[pseudo hull]

like when it used to be jsut the 079 screen when the introduced him

that shit was sick

[still moth]

what are you referring to exactly?

[karmic anchor]

anyway, let me explain the conclusions the design team came to about PD:

When you make it less RNG based, that can work for a time, but most designs of this tend to either lead to players developing the skills needed to escape 100% of the time, or players getting frustrated by it being "too hard" or finding ways to cheat the system (like with the old pd that didn't have changing doors). Making it fully RNG based like it is now can sometimes feel unfair to players, but ultimately is the fairest way of doing it, since it doesn't lead to players feeling robbed or 106 losing the ability to secure kills like the other SCPs, and thus making him actively detrimental to the team, since him grabbing a player during a chase will just effectively give teleport them to a random spot on the map.

We did actually find a good long term solution to the problem as a whole, but I can't go into more detail on it right now.

[amber lintel]

the bottom right

the buttons

[still moth]

OH

the check boxes?

[fallow kite]

Not a word read

Loll

[still moth]

show spawn interface or whatever

[pseudo hull]

"Making it fully RNG based like it is now can sometimes feel unfair to players" -> "since it doesn't lead to players feeling robbed"

[karmic anchor]

tldr, we've already fixed the problem internally

[pseudo hull]

these are literally 2 contradicting statements

within a sentence of eachother

lol

[amber lintel]

I kind of like flerkjerk's rework idea where it's chambers, and each one progressively increases the chance to escape. so you can increase your chances to escape by learning the skills, but it's never guaranteed. not something feasible with current 106, but I think it was neat

[pseudo hull]

it DOES make people feel robbed tho

[amber lintel]

or you could just get it over with and die I believe

I'll be done with this purdue essay soon orhu then we can play repo

[karmic anchor]

the point is that PD currently is supposed to be like an extra step to dying, but with a slim chance of surviving and escaping

[amber lintel]

and then I'm sleeping because I have like 2.5 days of assignments to do tomorrow

[still moth]

About the UI though

[karmic anchor]

you and some other players feel robbed by it because you view it as an obstacle with a random chance of dying

[pseudo hull]

"When you make it less RNG based, that can work for a time, but most designs of this tend to either lead to players developing the skills needed to escape 100% of the time"

If it's RNG based in general there's no way you can develop the "skills" to escape 100% of the time because it's random

[still moth]

I know @unique flare is sabotaging me from being able to get my work into the game I just can't prove it

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-surprise-mf-can't-prove-it-gif-7408854170742055240

[karmic anchor]

in reality, escaping from PD is effectively robbing 106 of a kill he's already earned

[amber lintel]

the arrow also irks me but we've had this discussion, and I came to the conclusion that because the physical arrow doesn't move, the position is probably fine

[karmic anchor]

dont feel bad, ive been here 2 years and i have barely gotten anything into the game

[amber lintel]

anyways I've seen the concepts you made

[still moth]

wait what is someone leaking

[amber lintel]

no

like

before NW

[still moth]

this is unfortunately more upsetting news

[pseudo hull]

😭

[amber lintel]

yes I know it's not

[karmic anchor]

my most significant contribution to the respawn overhaul got cut for time 😭

[amber lintel]

but if that's the quality of it

👍🏻

[pseudo hull]

what was it?

[karmic anchor]

hmmm

[pseudo hull]

also when LCZ and Surface rework guys

[karmic anchor]

they talked about it in an old patreon post...

[pseudo hull]

I've been waiting 3-4 years

[pseudo hull]

wasn't patreon then

[unique flare]

put a self-insert but its me instead

[still moth]

I would like to think dedicating part of my life to UI/UX design for nearly 3 years now has led to some improvement

[unique flare]

you will get it in in less than a day

[amber lintel]

surface rework is announced so it'll be in the game by... 2030

[pseudo hull]

surface rework was also announced like

[amber lintel]

being conservative

[pseudo hull]

4 years ago

lol

[amber lintel]

more parabellum-era devlogs would be neat

[karmic anchor]

@Ender am i allowed to say the big part of the respawn overhaul i worked on that isn't in the game yet?

[still moth]

how in the world would I achieve this

[still moth]

huge ping

[amber lintel]

yet? not ever?

[unique flare]

thats not what you asked...

[amber lintel]

l'epic fail

[karmic anchor]

[unique flare]

Not quite yet!

But soon...

[still moth]

I want to just

[pseudo hull]

I hate that they said they'd do Surface and LCZ rework so long ago

[pseudo hull]

but then heavy got the rework first

[karmic anchor]

there's your answer folks!

[amber lintel]

hey guys is it early 2024 yet? I hear the badge rework is coming soon!

[still moth]

send a screenshot of a random ass part of an interface I've worked on in the last year or something

[safe hamlet]

16.0 better be entrance zone

[still moth]

and then not elaborate for 6 months

[karmic anchor]

idek if an lcz rework is planned

[still moth]

I think that would be funny

[pseudo hull]

It used to be

[amber lintel]

I think the valve method of work backwards is good

[still moth]

(hubertcoin would plummet)

[pseudo hull]

I watched a hubert stream a long time ago where he showed concept for it

[amber lintel]

by LCZ you'd probably have level design figured out a bit more

[pseudo hull]

so I know they atleast did concepts for a rework

[amber lintel]

then we can execute level design

[karmic anchor]

iirc theres theoretically going to be ones for every zone eventually

[amber lintel]

both meanings

[karmic anchor]

the one that is next is going to be sz obviously

[amber lintel]

hubert will nick valentine them

it'lll be... souperb

[karmic anchor]

i would imagine the one after that would be EZ since it currently uses a lot of CB assets

[pseudo hull]

I don't see why you'd rework SZ first over LCZ when in reality you spend the LEAST amount of time on surface

[amber lintel]

kay okay

just 100 words to go

cya in 15 gellas

[karmic anchor]

because the layout is ripped almost directly from CB and it sucks to play on

[pseudo hull]

I mean, yes.

[karmic anchor]

LCZ has mostly original assets to my knowledge

with the exception of like the toilets

maybe

and 914

[pseudo hull]

yeah cause they did a redesign of it at like

the very beginning of dev

[karmic anchor]

yuh

[pseudo hull]

I remember when it used to be way closer to SCP:CB

[karmic anchor]

also SZ rework has been in the works for an ungodly amount of time

[still moth]

he's true

something huge is coming guys

[karmic anchor]

they've talked a lot about that in the patreon posts

[still moth]

it's very big, which is why it's so slow

[pseudo hull]

I knwo

anyone have the old concept photos for SZ?

I remember at one point seeing a train with snow but idk if I dreamt that or if that was actually a concept

lol

[karmic anchor]

its gone through something like 3 different LD heads, half a million iterations, 12 and a half billion dollars of unpaid work (this part is false)

[karmic anchor]

yes, we do

[still moth]

no no, it's true

[pseudo hull]

pls let me see

or send the patreon post

lol

[karmic anchor]

its up to uiu and hubert to decide if they want to release those i think

iirc a lot of them were like

comedically rough and not good

[pseudo hull]

thought you jsut said they were on a patreon post

so they've been released?

lol

erh

[pseudo hull]

o wait

not patreon for Northwood studios

I am for the official servers

f

btw wtf is "Evil candy"

the blue candy?

[safe hamlet]

Blue candy but permanent

[karmic anchor]

no, they're not

[safe hamlet]

And more ahp I think

[karmic anchor]

to my knowledge, the only images of old sz were in the infamous "Something Huge is Coming" post

[pseudo hull]

idk where that is

[pseudo hull]

oh blue is now permanent?

or do you mean it's the same effect but permanently

[unique flare]

Same effect, but permanent, with the ability to cackle

[pseudo hull]

Does that mean candy is staying in the game or?

I didn't even know evil candy was a thing lol

[tight badger]

wheres the slider for skeleton

[safe hamlet]

Evil candy is a separate candy

It works like blue candy

[pseudo hull]

well yeah I got that much

[karmic anchor]

this post from back in 2018

[pseudo hull]

yeah no never seen that

[safe hamlet]

But it's permanent, gives more ahp and lets you attack ur teammates

[pseudo hull]

I vividly remember a image of a train with snow on it

[karmic anchor]

if there are any patrons in chat they can go show the full text

[karmic anchor]

that's probably just the chaos car during the anniversary event

[pseudo hull]

no

lmao

It was a train

how tf could I confuse a train and a caR?

this was years ago during a hubert stream

I doubt itwas ever shown outside of that

[gusty plover]

what orhu meant is that the chaos car BECOMES a flying train during the anniversary event

[pseudo hull]

ah yeah no still not that

this was way before that was implemented

[gusty plover]

and the model it uses was going to be used for surface zone

but was ultimately cut

[pseudo hull]

rip

why tho lol

[karmic anchor]

wait is that true? thats hilarious

[gusty plover]

beats me. that happened over 5 years ago

[pseudo hull]

:/

[gusty plover]

studio was different

[pseudo hull]

It was the coolest concept post I had seen at the time

[gusty plover]

which post?

[pseudo hull]

and made me really excited for the future of the game

[pseudo hull]

stream*

[gusty plover]

are you talking about the most recent concept art stream?

[pseudo hull]

no lol

[gusty plover]

oh well

[pseudo hull]

what's hard to understand about what I am saying

[still moth]

hello senior game designer can you make it so i spawn in with everyone else when i join the server .025 second after the round starts please

[gusty plover]

hopefully youll love new surface anyway. its miles better than whatever the studio was capable of back in the day

[gusty plover]

NO!!

[still moth]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-staring-suspicious-memes-gif-9038143639402170425

[karmic anchor]

i can but im not going to

[still moth]

someone just said "fuck my stupid chud life," which was followed by someone saying "yeah... you're a little chud. you're a chuddy chud chud."

[karmic anchor]

like in the real?

[still moth]

no

in NWOS CA 1 of course

[pseudo hull]

I mean, I just liked the train concept bro

lol

it was cool as fuck to me

[karmic anchor]

onionman we could play repo rn

...

[gusty plover]

i dont have repo

[pseudo hull]

Also when LCZ with the glass cells

that was the bomb

[karmic anchor]

its a free weekend

[still moth]

whats ur steam

[gusty plover]

oh

[pseudo hull]

I have repo

lol

[karmic anchor]

gd plays repo 🙏

[gusty plover]

well i dont want to play it at the moment i just opened up unity

[karmic anchor]

FUCK

[gusty plover]

maybe we could do a gd gamenight

[karmic anchor]

ok

thats fair

free weekend ends on the 3rd

so

[still moth]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-crystal-skeksi-agreeing-gif-210445728802239235

[gusty plover]

its in my discord bio

[still moth]

incredible

[karmic anchor]

also yeah why havent you added me back

:(

[gusty plover]

you just sent me a request!

[pseudo hull]

someone just suggested AI zombies for 049 lol

[karmic anchor]

i know, you should be faster >:(

have i mentioned i am fucking evil

specifically in this discord

[gusty plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpIgNAZ248s

[karmic anchor]

it brings me great joy

[karmic anchor]

donald trump would never get me a hot dog

he would say "You can take me to hoover dam and you can buy me a hot dog"

"me, the greatest mr house to ever do the job, one of the very very best"

[still moth]

how the fuck do i gift something on steam

ive never done this before i dont have money

[karmic anchor]

"everyone from the strip is saying that, they say 'Donald, you're doing a great job! I love your stuff'"

[karmic anchor]

buy the game like usual, when you check out there should be an option to send it to someone as a gift

here

[gusty plover]

hmmm

[karmic anchor]

accept it but then delegate the task to jank and never approve it

simple

thats how the pros do it

[inner mortar]

Y’all, I need help. Thoughts on the new pfp?

[karmic anchor]

👌

[still moth]

I should be able to throw bricks at MasterK every time the official servers start lagging

[karmic anchor]

pikmin w/ cigar, thats pretty classy

[inner walrus]

sigh

What server

[karmic anchor]

i should be able to throw bricks at you every time i click the wrong button on accident

[still moth]

CA 1 it might just be me tho

[inner walrus]

I don't see anyone else complaining it might be you

[karmic anchor]

i feel this is a fair trade off actually

[inner walrus]

I'll keep an eye on it though

[still moth]

I s till want to throw bricks at masterK

[karmic anchor]

jank can throw bricks at masterk i can throw bricks at jank

[still moth]

deal

[inner walrus]

[still moth]

@feral chasm

[karmic anchor]

i see zero downside to this for me

[karmic anchor]

jank we could play repo right now

like fr

rn we could fully do it

isn't that crazy

[still moth]

i would but im playing SL and eating lays baked original chips

[karmic anchor]

but you could be playing repo and eating lays baked original chips

have you considered that?

[still moth]

i have

im just lazy

[karmic anchor]

sighhhh...

[strange trellis]

why would you willingly play SL

[still moth]

im contributing to the crypto rugpull scheme of hubert coin

[karmic anchor]

im so oppressed... i must be a gamer, the most oppressed group in history

[karmic anchor]

Me when sl adds cosmetics, they get insanely expensive, and i get all of them for free and can supplement my income by selling them on the steam marketplace

Free games forever!!!

Hurray!!!

Actually, do you think Gaben is like sitting on a treasure trove of insanely valuable cs skins

[sharp dust]

Yo I swear I got a glitch one game where my entire scp team froze n couldn’t do anything

Can’t press escape

Or access player list

Shit was so weird

[safe hamlet]

Seems to be a common bug I've seen other people say this

[slender inlet]

that's just normal sl teammates

[sharp dust]

I was frozen too lmao

Legit couldn’t look around

[sharp dust]

Selling the match 🙏

[karmic anchor]

i wanna play repo.........

[wintry jewel]

Sex

One question who is the best player of scp sl?

[karmic anchor]

me

[rancid canyon]

prob Hubert

or a QA tester

[amber lintel]

@karmic anchor you still down for REPO in 20?

[karmic anchor]

can u find more peopel?

[amber lintel]

@short elbow ?

[short elbow]

im playing with my other friends rn sorry

[amber lintel]

drat

darn

grah

[acoustic kiln]

Sup y'all

[tough tapir]

!rep

[snow umbra]

You can give a rep!

[tough tapir]

!rep @rancid dome

[snow umbra]

You have just given @rancid dome a reputation point!

[gaunt pumice]

Has anyone else had problems with the game? me and all my friends are all having our game starts stop responding and crashes

[amber lintel]

funny

[karmic anchor]

if you can convince him to join

im still down for at least a little

[amber lintel]

do you have SCP 5k

[rocky adder]

i love this little guy

[amber lintel]

wait was that my steamDM

[rocky adder]

think yours was at an earlier point

btw what were you asking again i closed the chat lol

[amber lintel]

do you have REPO

[rocky adder]

oh i do but i dont particularly care for it

[amber lintel]

grah

@karmic anchor are you sleep now

[karmic anchor]

i was playing skeleton

but im tiiiiired now

ooooo honk shoo honk shoo

[rancid dome]

!rep @tough tapir

[snow umbra]

You have just given @tough tapir a reputation point!

[amber lintel]

okay. I am probably free tomorrow.

[karmic anchor]

Heh

[amber lintel]

say a stupid joke and I'm not

[arctic egret]

EXCUSE ME WHAT

[karmic anchor]

I am already committed to activities with friends tomorrow

[amber lintel]

oh, that's cool

[sharp ravine]

3114 die😭

not funny

[raw rapids]

yo

i think server 5 is buggin

server 5 definitely bugging yo

1k ping rubberbanding

[thorn vector]

hey is there a way to stop the damn item task bar to fade in and out when equping items

its so distracting

[surreal sandal]

When will this Halloween update end?

I haven't played it

[sleek estuary]

should stay around for another week, maybe longer

[tough tapir]

The halloween update is forever

[twilit frost]

art contest channel is up? 👀

[supple totem]

sup gang

[twilit frost]

hu?

[supple totem]

tf you tryna say

[twilit frost]

huh?

😵‍💫

[supple totem]

are you good homie

do you need emergency chocci milk

[twilit frost]

nah im really bad with English im not good

[twilit frost]

will be nice

https://tenor.com/view/inscryption-gif-23558749

[supple totem]

you speak Russian?

[twilit frost]

no gifs YwY

[twilit frost]

хо хо хо

[supple totem]

?????

[twilit frost]

✅

sorry im weirdo

[supple totem]

русский или английский?

[twilit frost]

русский вирдо

American psyho

[supple totem]

okok, we can dm if you tryna talk in Russian

we're not allowed in here

[twilit frost]

sounds funny

[supple totem]

thems just the rules

[twilit frost]

last year there where a ton of artist who speak russian

for the art contest

im really sorry if my english is bad dont kill me mods

[supple totem]

yuh

[twilit frost]

you will be there?

[supple totem]

I'm not an artist, I do cosplays

[twilit frost]

🫣

damn

thats 1000 times cooler

[supple totem]

thank you

[upper raven]

Hi chat

[near stirrup]

the chat is dead, let's play SL

[sharp olive]

W

[supple totem]

yuhh

[sharp olive]

Hi my dearest x_nole and whatever the fuck that symbol is

[mossy geode]

SL is what?

[sharp olive]

The chat is dead

He said no adjective about sl

Or she

Or whatever else

[mossy geode]

[near stirrup]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/700330/SCP__SCP_Secret_Laboratory/

Steam

SCP: Secret Laboratory

Deep within one of the SCP Foundation’s emergency containment sites, a catastrophic containment breach leads to multiple SCP subjects being released from their cells. With containment compromised, facility personnel rush to evacuate while waiting for Mobile Task Forces to arrive and restore order, but with the Class-D population running amok i…

▶ Play video

[mossy geode]

Thank you!

[near stirrup]

yes! you really should thank me!

[upper raven]

Its orthodox Christian symbol

[sharp olive]

Shit looks like a russian letter

[rancid dome]

@past dune silly question

but did you ever get a response from the application

[upper raven]

[strange cairn]

Yo Guys i cant find a server in SCPSL

[sharp olive]

Ty

[sharp olive]

[upper raven]

Im hungry

Haven't eaten anything since yesterday dinner

[paper shard]

you should eat something

[upper bloom]

i lowkey wish they stepped away from the 100 hallway design for the map

[upper raven]

Really

[paper shard]

no i was just joking

[upper raven]

Damn

[paper shard]

i often highlight infor that is really obvious

[crimson salmon]

Goo goo babies

[paper shard]

huh

[upper raven]

Enough

[crimson salmon]

Goo goo babies

[sharp olive]

Eat bro

[sharp olive]

IM GOING TO ULTRAKILL YOU!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1375135346492440631/1433467849757823200/IMG_7129.gif

[full pond]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-mars-bars-gif-19910027

[sharp olive]

Ik

Shut up

[full pond]

https://tenor.com/view/wawa-emdeb-fail-failure-cat-gif-16703817715131368982

[sharp olive]

Vto

[full pond]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-petting-cat-scp-scp-containment-breach-gif-9727177371314582459

[tough tapir]

goo goo babies

[prisma pendant]

how do u strangle as 3114

[upper raven]

Ultrakill sucks

[prisma pendant]

which key do u press

[sharp olive]

Keep hating

[sharp olive]

Idk

[prisma pendant]

??

[crimson salmon]

Goo goo babies

[sharp olive]

I dont know

[polar spade]

Right click. But it only works for a short time straight after you undisguise

[sharp olive]

YOU ARE LESS THEN NOTHING!

[crimson salmon]

Than*

[sharp olive]

?

[young frost]

Can someone help me please, i have issue.

[polar spade]

You can F1 ingame as any role for a guide to playing as that class

[sharp olive]

YOU MAKE EVEN THE DEVIL CRY

[full pond]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-newblood-gabriel-gabriel-ultrakill-ultrakill-gabriel-gif-1236033892112454929

[polar spade]

What issue do you have?

[upper raven]

[crimson salmon]

FIGHT ME LIKE AN ANIMAL!

[sharp olive]

Or alt f4 for more tips

[young frost]

You can VC? I would show you on LIVE.

[polar spade]

Cant, sorry

[sharp olive]

THATS THE BEST YOU'VE GOT?!

[polar spade]

Is it a bug or technical issue

[crimson salmon]

Ahahaha

You forgot the laugh

[young frost]

i dont really know right now.

[sharp olive]

It says gullible on the ceiling

[polar spade]

Could you try describing it or sending a screen recording

[full pond]

https://tenor.com/view/asdf-it-says-gullible-on-the-ceiling-ah-you-stole-my-lungs-gif-19322533

[young frost]

Yes. So. I want to connect my server to FTP but it says connection failed from unknown reason or something like that and i just want to check if my files are good.

Also need new Verification Passwordcode

[polar spade]

Seems like a technical issue. Try opening a ticket in #technical-support

[young frost]

Alright, ty.

[polar spade]

As for this, you’ll have to contact S&C

But make sure you can join your server first

[crimson salmon]

Limbo... lust. All gone. With gluttony soon to follow. Your kind know nothing but hunger, purged all lives on the upper layers, yet they remain unsatiated.... as do you. You've taken EVERYTHING from me, machine. And now all that remains is PERFECT HATRED! Machine... I will cut you down. Break you apart. Splay the gore of your profain form across the stars! I will grind you down till the very spark cries for mercy! My hands shall RELISH! ENDING YOU! HERE! AND! NOW!

[orchid kraken]

Goo goo babies or something

[young frost]

Yes. https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1434473928432160818

mind support me pls.

[sharp olive]

coin

[upper raven]

Coin

[polar spade]

Im on mobile and quite busy rn so I cant really help but another specialist will be with you rn

[young frost]

alr ty.

[crimson salmon]

Goo goo babies

[tough tapir]

Goo goo babies

[prisma pendant]

whats hardrp?

and how do u click the button on surface to nuke

[rancid dome]

@tough tapir

[tough tapir]

street plen

[rancid dome]

I love this place

Only cuz of the planes

Everything else is 💀 💀 💀

[near stirrup]

hey, where's news at?

i didn't see him today

[hoary imp]

oguzok

[tough tapir]

hehe

everything else is...plane

[rancid dome]

omg

[prisma pendant]

im looking for servers with friendlyfire so i can throw a grenade in an elevator full of people

[winter sedge]

Only to get immediately killed as soon the fucking helicopter land

[prisma pendant]

??

like they'll know who it was

lololo

[quaint holly]

they'd know

[full kestrel]

안녕하세요

[tough tapir]

!langkr

[snow umbra]

안녕하세요, 이 디코 서버는 영어로만 작성합니다. 다음 링크 통해 [공식](#1375576141607338026 message) 한국 서버나 [커뮤니티](#1063025456573591562 message) 서버를 가입할 수 있습니다.

[prisma pendant]

i got banned for bunnyhop before i could do anything

sad

[tough tapir]

James from England

[upper raven]

I almost got cooked

Holy shit

I've gotta put password on my pc

[acoustic kiln]

Sup

[somber raptor]

Time to shoot up some kids

[rancid dome]

PAUSE

Holy shit that caption

[past dune]

The Red bull one?

[rancid dome]

Yaaa

[past dune]

Lemme check

[upper raven]

What

[rancid dome]

He does not get it chat

[unborn nova]

any1 down to goon w bay harbour gooner?

[past dune]

No response yet

[rancid dome]

Damn rip

I'm still waiting for my care package

From you

[upper raven]

No

[past dune]

If I get hired

[upper raven]

What is

[unborn nova]

why

[past dune]

They can't C#

See sharp

[rancid dome]

No, just C

Not C#

[past dune]

C# better joke

Cuz they don't see sharp

[rancid dome]

But yeah, agreed on that bit

[upper raven]

Me no

[upper raven]

What about C--

[past dune]

There's such a thing.

[sharp shale]

Hi guys

[upper raven]

What about C÷÷

[past dune]

Seek professional help

[upper raven]

C××

Cππ

C√√

C™™

[past dune]

C²

[bold kelp]

g

[unborn nova]

a

[upper raven]

B

[somber raptor]

That'd be C -= 1

[mortal crypt]

Not funny i'm blocking you rn

[upper raven]

All roads lead to block button

[full mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-gif-27198366

[mortal crypt]

hi

[upper raven]

My whole pc without gpu costs 410 bucks

[minor goblet]

[past dune]

Againn????

[true sky]

and with gpu

[upper raven]

700

[true sky]

what gpu

[upper raven]

6750 xt

[true sky]

677777777

[supple totem]

dayummmm

DAYUMMM

[icy flume]

Guys is this good

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/251211223012474880/1341295039921258516/output.webp

[mortal crypt]

yeah again

[upper raven]

Fucking knew it

[upper raven]

No

[icy flume]

💔

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-five-nights-at-freddy's-freddy-freddy-fazbear-idk-gif-11793150862606780677

[upper raven]

Its laptop

How can it be good

[autumn mantle]

when remove pumpkin?

[upper raven]

Maybe its good for powerpoint 4k slideshows

[past dune]

[past dune]

Hi

[supple totem]

sup gang

[past dune]

Im good!

[supple totem]

awesome g

[past dune]

[inner walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/ssj3-dragon-ball-daima-daima-issabreh-goku-gif-11675713485127703300

[past dune]

Hiiii FBI!!!!

[inner walrus]

yo

[crude jolt]

i still cant fix the invisible dummies in the host command

[past dune]

Use dedicated server instead

[crude jolt]

idk how im stupid

[past dune]

Just run it and join

[crude jolt]

i looked at the support page but

i have the app and stuff but where do i find it

[supple totem]

be nice to yourself rn

choccy milk for you

[crude jolt]

cant

[past dune]

Run the dedicated server tool
Select default port
And then you can join via localhost IP in the game

[crude jolt]

thanks

[inner walrus]

lh for short

[past dune]

You can send a screenshot if you are stuck somewhere and we will help

[crude jolt]

alright thanks

[past dune]

Shush..
I'm being professional

[inner walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/super-saiyan-4-dragon-ball-daima-daima-goku-goku-dragon-ball-gif-15825158124695969599

[ruby kettle]

can the mods PLEASE FIX EU1

[past dune]

What's wrong with it?

[inner walrus]

wym?

what server

[crude jolt]

prolly lag

[inner walrus]

NW officials are fine rn players are on it

[past dune]

Smh... FBI go fix it

[inner walrus]

just not many rn

[past dune]

[crude jolt]

wifi has been really slow for some reason

[inner walrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568982320875438081/1434350726510809108/togif-6.gif

[ruby kettle]

it reaches 1k ping every 2 mins

and kick 5+ people

[crude jolt]

i was getting 50 MB/S now it like 10 MB/S

[past dune]

Weird...

[crude jolt]

yeah that happens on all servers

[past dune]

Does it happen to everyone or only just you?

[ruby kettle]

yes please fix it

[ruby kettle]

everyone

[inner walrus]

What server is this happening on

[ruby kettle]

and 5+ people get kicked everytime

[crude jolt]

mostly all

[ruby kettle]

northwood EU1

[upper raven]

Crazy

I was crazy once

[past dune]

Doesn't happen on servers where I play

[upper raven]

They put me in room

A rubber room

[past dune]

I still am..

[upper raven]

A rubber room with rats

Rats made me crazy

[supple totem]

look at this smart boi rn

[crude jolt]

i was on dr.brights mayhem and got kicked with good wifi for no reason

[upper raven]

Crazy?

[supple totem]

give him a cookie

[crude jolt]

i had the micro hid man

[upper raven]

I was crazy once

They put me in room

A rubber room

[crude jolt]

STOP

[upper raven]

A rubber room with rats

[crude jolt]

DONT

[upper raven]

Rats made me crazy

Crazy?

[crude jolt]

NOT AGAIN

[upper raven]

I was crazy once

They put me in room

A rubber room

A rubber room with rats

[crude jolt]

NO STOP THE VOICES I HEAR THEM AGAIN

[upper raven]

Rats made me crazy

Crazy?

[prisma pendant]

how do u even play russian roullete with the revolver

[upper raven]

Hold middle moude button

[crude jolt]

hold middle mouse button

[supple totem]

I wanna shoot you in the game, what server do you play on

[inner walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/daima-daima-goku-goku-goku-mini-teq-tur-ssj4-goku-mini-gif-3320929377536326395

[upper raven]

Really

Im pink

[past dune]

Yes...

[upper raven]

Aren't we friends?

[past dune]

Sus

[autumn mantle]

@past dune when remove pumpkins?

[past dune]

Too many rats...

[past dune]

When halloween event ends

[supple totem]

I'm gonna destroy you

[upper raven]

Rats...

I was crazy once

[autumn mantle]

when he ending

[past dune]

[past dune]

Real

[supple totem]

guess who has image perms now

[ruby kettle]

@past dune it happend again

[upper raven]

Ahem...

[supple totem]

ME

[upper raven]

Wcoufh

What

Cough

[past dune]

Oh no..

[supple totem]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-smack-slap-gif-16916525473105238244

tf you want lil slav

[past dune]

Going outside rn

[supple totem]

don't get stolen

[past dune]

Okie

[crude jolt]

gotta use clankers to learn again

[supple totem]

(I'm rapidly approaching your location)

[past dune]

Yay

[upper raven]

gym

[crude jolt]

will we ever get a playable scp?

dont think so

[supple totem]

go gym then

lil ahh slav