plugins-discussion

[white dove]

No

This is not possible

[sage hearth]

aw

[fair lintel]

i mean

you can recreate the map with primitives

[sage hearth]

For my example, i want to specifically get rid of the 2 doors in the back of the Class-D Cells, to then build a map extension there.
-# I dislike having to use Teleporters for every map extension...

But as far as i understand it, they dont have the door component so are just static objects

[fair lintel]

yeah unfortunately you need teleporters for that

[sage hearth]

aw :c

[humble arrow]

its probably not so easy

if it was i bet more people wouldve done it

[keen parcel]

you just need experience

and maybe some creative thinking

but for programming thats about it

and a fast typing speed 😂

[humble arrow]

need to produce as much spaghetti code as possible

[keen parcel]

if i ever learned how to program

which probably never because i am very lazy

id have very neat code

i mean its kind of like

if you get me to do it i just do it

and could give a shit less

[humble arrow]

Its nice to think that, most people try to strive for it and some succeed, but the fact is for one reason or another that will be hard to do

[keen parcel]

no it isnt

im a perfectionist

i wouldnt leave without perfecting the code

and if not id come back the next day and work on it

[humble arrow]

dont worry about perfecting the code or you will spend hours on something that should be basic

but i like your attitude

that kind of determination is something i need

[keen parcel]

i mean making the code neat

but my code would be hard to co author probably

im the king at coming up with really out of the box ideas

i mean i guess i know a bit about code but

too lazy to actually learn it lol

[humble arrow]

if you know what an interface is specifically youre probably doing better than i am

[keen parcel]

like how to program interface or?

well without interface you wouldnt be able to even communicate with the computer or code

it would just be code

like

think if 0 interface like an experiment with 0 changes

it just runs

you set everything up and it runs

code can do that

interface is like changing variables and such in an experiment

because youre letting the user change values to get different outputs

[humble arrow]

no like an oop interface

[keen parcel]

a what

[humble arrow]

object oriented programming

[keen parcel]

can you give an example

[humble arrow]

its a contract of some sort that a class signs that says it will have these specific methods and these specific field/properties

[humble arrow]

I cant i dont really understand it as ive previously mentioned

[keen parcel]

and what happens if it doesnt have the specified methods and properties and such?

it just doesnt work??

[humble arrow]

it wont compile

[keen parcel]

like authenticating something or

[humble arrow]

at all

[keen parcel]

so what can i relate it to just like signing a driver so windows wont give you smart screen?

kind of thing

[humble arrow]

uhm, its like saying everything with this interface is guaranteed to have these things

if the real world was a program

uhm

IOrganism would have the functions IOrganism.Reproduce() and property IOrganism.Age or something

and the Human class implements IOrganism

[keen parcel]

so like

let me try to think here

it has that property

and what that does is human is expected to have

said property

than that property grabs certain things

like movement speed and such?

[humble arrow]

yes

[humble arrow]

properties are like an access point you can use to modify a variable

[keen parcel]

so like

if i did

the IOrganism(MovementSpeed = 4.5)

it would change the original value

listed in the IOrganism classifier to that

or

[humble arrow]

Yes

[humble arrow]

if the specified object implements IOrganism

[keen parcel]

ohhh okay

so are we talking like transpilers in scpsl or something

[humble arrow]

Transpiler is completely different

i dont know it at all

[keen parcel]

ah

[humble arrow]

Basically you can check if an object implements it like this:

if (object is IOrganism organism)

[keen parcel]

so like

[humble arrow]

then you can access that objects organic properties

[keen parcel]

fpc motor in sl

is one of those

a classifier right

[humble arrow]

uhm a classifier can be imagined as a type of object

[keen parcel]

so like

IOrganism would have variables like

MovementSpeed
Health
etc

or sumn idk

[humble arrow]

Yes

go on

[keen parcel]

what does fpc motor even have in it?

[humble arrow]

I dont know what fpc motor is, i wont try to construct a connection to it

uhm

[sullen apex]

fpcmotor isnt an interface iirc

[humble arrow]

Yeah I was gonna say that isnt an interface

i wasnt sure if he was asking what fpc motor implements

or if its an interface

[keen parcel]

ik 😭

why do you interrupt mid context

[sullen apex]

.

im just contributing bc i know c# !

[humble arrow]

he was referring to classes

[keen parcel]

yes but did you see what i said after it

yeah

[sullen apex]

o

[humble arrow]

yes

[keen parcel]

im learning this on a whim

lol

[sullen apex]

and for a transpiler ur effectively just changing the compiled code

nothing to do with oop

[humble arrow]

you developed a program that uses a lot of Interfaces you might be able to help

[keen parcel]

all i know about a transspiler is that they break the game if theyre built wrong

[sullen apex]

what program

[humble arrow]

hint thingy

im pretty sure

[sullen apex]

oh yea

ruei

[humble arrow]

I dont even remember looking through ruei code tbh

[sullen apex]

its not very good

[keen parcel]

like interface would be like

[sullen apex]

i need to get around to writing it

[keen parcel]

a class would be a button

[sullen apex]

rewriting

[keen parcel]

is clickable = true and such

in the identifiers

and you can change it to false but those are the default parameters or sumn

idk

[humble arrow]

what is an identifier, is it like a variable?

[sullen apex]

kinda?

[keen parcel]

idk i dont know

the official terms

[sullen apex]

in oop, a class is basically just a thing that stores information (and has methods to operate on that information)

[humble arrow]

a class is the framework you use to construct an object

or it can be a single instance that can be accessed globally

but generally focus on the first one

[keen parcel]

yeah like

Button
IsClickable = true
RedirectTo = ''
etc

right?

[sullen apex]

yea sure but they don't NEED default values

[keen parcel]

ohhhh

[sullen apex]

if it helps

[keen parcel]

thats what you do after

[sullen apex]

yea u can change the values

[keen parcel]

ahhh

i see now

[sullen apex]

an interface is kind of a class except it can't actually store anything

it can only really be inherited

[keen parcel]

my daily c sharp lesson

[humble arrow]

one class can inherit multiple interfaces

[sullen apex]

yea

[humble arrow]

so theyre generally used to denote that an object is capable of doing X thing

so my IOrganism idea wasnt very good actually

[sullen apex]

what you can do is essentially convert a class to an interface and use it as that interface

[humble arrow]

if you do like this

[sullen apex]

oop is all very stupid

[humble arrow]

More like IWalkable

So the Dog implements IWalkable because it moves its four legs to walk

and so does the human, but they walk differently

but if you wanna make something walk without worrying about how, you can access its IWalkable and do IWalkable.Walk() and no matter what object it actually is itll walk as long as the interface is properly implemented

[old relic]

Chat, is this too many keycards?

[hushed jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kylo-ren-adam-driver-screaming-star-wars-gif-17734637

[keen parcel]

wtf

[old relic]

Imagine the 914 upgrade tree

[keen parcel]

imagine like not creating that many keycards because

youll drive people to insanity with upgrade paths

[slate dove]

Thats the point!!

[cedar wasp]

for custom keycard, 64 permission combination

-1 if it is impossible to make a card without any permissions

[jovial citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-gauntlet-thanos-full-power-gif-13701353

[pearl sage]

someone make an avengers endgame plugin NOW

[humble arrow]

what does that even mean

[lyric wagon]

Is is..... Inevitable

[pearl sage]

Idk collect all 6 infinity keycards and kill half the server

[keen parcel]

bypass if you obtain all the keycards

[pearl sage]

Trust

[granite belfry]

I mean...

[eternal garnet]

people have downloaded the repository 30-50 times, but have not suggested any changes ...

#1371740029449146389

[humble arrow]

thats how it is

people download it to look or check it out, most lose interest quickly, and of the ones who continue using it not many are interested in requesting specific changes or giving feedback

ive personally been lucky enough to have more than a few gentlemen/women dming me for support and suggestions on one of my plugins due to continued interest and use.

[steady vessel]

I have literally no skills (chatgpt my love) If I have some lines of code for a plugin, what would I save the file as and where would I save it?

[worn isle]

You need a C# compiler

to compile to .dll

you also need an actual C# project

not just a single file

[fair lintel]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/wiki

[steady vessel]

If I installed a scpsl server on steamcmd, will I have LabAPI?

[worn isle]

if you installed the beta yes

[steady vessel]

I have the beta on the server 👍

[steady vessel]

"First, find a plugin you may want to download, and open its Github page (or repository, as we often call it)."
The guide thinks I already have a file in that format, I do not. I only have text. How can I compile it to .dll ?

[worn isle]

you are reading the installing it

not the creating a plugin

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/wiki/Creating-the-Project

anyway

[steady vessel]

I am actualy dumb, sorry XD

[worn isle]

you need an actual project

not just a few lines of .txt

[steady vessel]

If I do the project on my main pc, then transfer it to the server, will it still work? It would be so much easier for me to do it on my main pc lol

[worn isle]

yes?

all server needs is the .dll compiled

but u need functioning project to compile w references etc

[steady vessel]

ok

When I install the visual studio do I need any workloads?

[acoustic glade]

.net desktop environment im pretty sure

ill check

yeah

[steady vessel]

thanks

I don't know if this will work, lots of the text is being flagged

That is just one of many

[halcyon frost]

learn .net and C# first

[steady vessel]

gulp, I only want the com45 to shoot grenades...

[halcyon frost]

and you prob forgot to inlcude the LabApi.Features.Loader

[worn isle]

you need the labapi references yeah

[acoustic glade]

click on show potential fixes

[worn isle]

only works if labapi has been added

[acoustic glade]

also install labapi nuget

[worn isle]

yes

[acoustic glade]

yes

[steady vessel]

yes

Is there a download link?

the only thing I can find is this

[acoustic glade]

go to your references

right click

manage nuget packages

then search for labapi

[steady vessel]

im so lost

[white dove]

I highly reccomend learning c# itself first..

[acoustic glade]

yeah

well i started with plugin development, didn't even learn c# and got all this way

it really depends on the person

[steady vessel]

Chatgpt my love 💘

[halcyon frost]

chatgpt is a tool that help u

chatgpt doesnt know shit about functions inside SL

[fair lintel]

david give them SL source so GPT can use it

[acoustic glade]

ok this is the best i could do interms of a tutorial 😭

[white dove]

He would die

[fair lintel]

then give it to gemini

with the 2M context window or what

-# still not enough

[acoustic glade]

gemini doesnt know shit either 😭

[white dove]

https://tenor.com/view/destroyed-gif-20490322

[acoustic glade]

the gemini API is good tho

[fair lintel]

lmao

[steady vessel]

Is this on google or what?

[acoustic glade]

this was made with discord.js and the gemini api, gemini is rlly good, not for exiled tho 😭

[halcyon frost]

You can build this here

[acoustic glade]

no on visual studio 😭

[steady vessel]

Yeah, I knew that! 🙂 👍

[acoustic glade]

i have a nuget installation tutorial but it would kinda be a bit focused towards exiled

but once you get how nuget works its literally so simple

[steady vessel]

Wait where? This is what I see:

[acoustic glade]

nooo 😭

go to your solution explorer

the thing with files

you know what ill just send the tutorial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9UVJUZXwXs&t=58s

just watch this until the nuget part is over

search for labapi instead of exiled in nuget

[steady vessel]

WHATS NUGET?

[fair lintel]

where has Jeppe gone 🙏

[acoustic glade]

saskyc better 🗣️

[acoustic glade]

package manager

[fair lintel]

ask gippity ;)

[steady vessel]

Do I need to be in the project?

I am so confused

[acoustic glade]

NuGet (pronounced "New Get")[3] is a package manager, primarily used for packaging and distributing software written using .NET and the .NET Framework.

[steady vessel]

I promise I will learn c# soon

[acoustic glade]

yes

[steady vessel]

oki

[acoustic glade]

right click references

[steady vessel]

Just to double check I need this as well right?

[acoustic glade]

yes

exactly

[silent heart]

No you'll be just fine without it

[acoustic glade]

no?

you need class lib for it to even compile 😭

[silent heart]

Lmao

I'm compling it by hand

On paper

[steady vessel]

I THINK IT IS DONE

I installed it

[silent heart]

Good job

[steady vessel]

👍

[silent heart]

Now you need to create the right project and add the right references and the right usings

Then you can code

[steady vessel]

huh

This is what chatgpt gave me:
using LabAPI.Events;
using LabAPI.Features;
using LabAPI.Features.Items;
using LabAPI.Features.Players;
using UnityEngine;

namespace Com45GrenadeLabAPI
{
public class Com45GrenadePlugin : Plugin
{
public override string Name => "COM45GrenadeLauncher";
public override string Author => "ChatGPT";
public override Version Version => new Version(1, 0, 0);

    public override void OnEnable()
    {
        EventManager.PlayerShoot += OnPlayerShoot;
    }

    public override void OnDisable()
    {
        EventManager.PlayerShoot -= OnPlayerShoot;
    }

    private void OnPlayerShoot(PlayerShootEvent ev)
    {
        if (ev.Firearm.ItemType == ItemType.GunCOM15) // COM-45
        {
            Player player = ev.Player;

            // Spawn grenade 1.5m in front of player
            Vector3 spawnPos = player.Position + player.Forward * 1.5f;

            // Create grenade item
            Item grenade = Item.Create(ItemType.GrenadeHE);
            grenade.Spawn(spawnPos, Quaternion.identity);

            // Throw grenade forward with velocity
            Rigidbody rb = grenade.GameObject.GetComponent<Rigidbody>();
            if (rb != null)
            {
                rb.velocity = player.Forward * 15f;
            }
        }
    }
}

}

No way it works right?

[white dove]

https://tryitands.ee/

But ngl that looks it could work lol

[steady vessel]

Great thinking

One problem, how?

[white dove]

I would be pretty surprised if it did

[white dove]

Build it, download 14.1 client and server, put it in labapi folder and try it

[white dove]

Once again, this is why you need to know c# first...

and programming

[silent heart]

Red = bad

[steady vessel]

😳

[silent heart]

Author: ChatGPT 😭

I use it a bit too but tbh it's so ass

Also you're missing the nuget package because the usings aren't working

Or it's just gpt capitalizing the wrong letters

Happened to me

[silent heart]

Should I code this as a test for fun

[steady vessel]

YES

yes please

🙂 👍

is there an easy way of learning c# so I can make quick plugins like making a gun shoot balls or something?

[teal viper]

you could watch a few tutorials on youtube

[steady vessel]

is there a list of all the labapi things? (I don't know what to call them, identifiers?

[steady vessel]

How are you getting on?

Is there a way to add custom attributes to a weapon? or does that need to be a plugin too...?

[silent heart]

Didn't start yet

I might do it if I feel like it but not rn

I'm making other small tweaks

[steady vessel]

fair

How can I compile it so I can test if it works?

[silent heart]

ctrl + shift + b

[steady vessel]

looks good?

I can't for the life of me find where I need to put the file

[silent heart]

First of all it's targeting a com15

[steady vessel]

waffleohtruffle@obiwanscomlink:~$ cd /home/waffleohtruffle/scpsl-server/
waffleohtruffle@obiwanscomlink:~/scpsl-server$ cd scpsl-server/LocalAdmin/plugins/LabAPI/
-bash: cd: scpsl-server/LocalAdmin/plugins/LabAPI/: No such file or directory
waffleohtruffle@obiwanscomlink:~/scpsl-server$

[steady vessel]

I changed it to com45

[ruby sand]

that doesn’t even look like the right route

[steady vessel]

I have no idea as to what I am looking for lol

[ruby sand]

well, neither do we

are you looking for labapi plugins?

[steady vessel]

yeah, so I can put "my" plugin in there

[ruby sand]

cd “.config/SCP Secret Laboratory/LabAPI/plugins/global”

[steady vessel]

waffleohtruffle@obiwanscomlink:~$ cd “.config/SCP Secret Laboratory/LabAPI/plugins/global”
-bash: cd: too many arguments

I will split it up

[ruby sand]

you need to use your quotes

mine may be wrong

idk

probably are

replace my quotes with urs

[steady vessel]

could this be it?

[silent heart]

Different quotes ;-;

[fair lintel]

no

you need to navigate to the one in .config

[ruby sand]

iphone is yippie

[silent heart]

:p

[steady vessel]

I am there waffleohtruffle@obiwanscomlink:~/.config/SCP Secret Laboratory/LabAPI/plugins/7777$

Or should I have done global at the end?

[fair lintel]

doesn't really matter if you're only running one server per machine

[steady vessel]

What now?

I might go for a swim, I have been at this for hours XD

[halcyon mural]

anyone who ports Exiled plugins to LabApi?

[ruby sand]

depends on the plugins you want, i’m trying to allow all my plugins to work on labapi too, some are a bit too complicated tho…

[halcyon mural]

I wrote you to the dm

[primal elbow]

Does custom keycards show permissions in inventory? (Is that fixed in release?)

[white dove]

Not fixed, sorry

[primal elbow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1217088837592027137/1228312800531714099/photo_2024-03-12_17-33-32.gif

[white dove]

I don't speak russian

[cerulean coral]

Never mind

Look at this kitten

[white dove]

Birds are better

[fair lintel]

IPoAC moment

[white dove]

What

[fair lintel]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers

[white dove]

XD

[fair lintel]

Packet loss is real

[white dove]

):

[quartz portal]

is there any labapi compatible scp proximity chat plugin?

[ornate oriole]

There are smthing wrong in my code or with me?

why all of it white..

[white dove]

Hello, these values are from 0f-1f

So what you did is 1,1,1,1

=> white)

@ornate oriole

[ornate oriole]

thx a lot

[arctic sky]

https://tenor.com/view/bendy-bendy-my-honest-reaction-my-honest-reaction-gif-9174402647057509715

[fair lintel]

@lavish linden i thought of having an easy-to-declare schema for the plugin manager, either json or yaml

[lavish linden]

Like defined in the repository?

Or included in the release?

[fair lintel]

not sure how that would be handled
in a file contained within a zip?
as a release asset?
probably in the repo code

[fair lintel]

yeah the issue with that is it takes an extra api request

[lavish linden]

Well, it'd be cool if the metadata was included in one file

maybe include metadata in the DLL?

[fair lintel]

as an EmbeddedResource perhaps?

i mean you can already embed DLLs if you want dependencies
not a good practice imo

[lavish linden]

It'd be cool to see what the LA people think

[lavish linden]

oh?

[fair lintel]

at zabszk

[lavish linden]

I think that's relevant

@rose cedar who should we talk with for LA?

[fair lintel]

another issue with this is you may get duplicate assemblies

[rose cedar]

make issue on la repo

[lavish linden]

already did

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LocalAdmin-V2/issues/98

@fair lintel if you wanna make a comment on there you should

[fair lintel]

why have i not realized that LA is open source

😭

[lavish linden]

💀

[fair lintel]

i'd love to have #96

[lavish linden]

There's a reason behind that

[fair lintel]

yeah there uh

probably is

[lavish linden]

read the issue linked to it

Basically this is how it'll work. There will be a list of NWAPI & EXILED plugins which have been submitted and strictly approved by plugin moderators or NW developers.

👎

[fair lintel]

[lavish linden]

hell nah 😭

[fair lintel]

yes let's support unofficial frameworks in the core runner of the server

oh well

i'm not against the person coming up with the whole rewrite thing but "official" exiled plugin installation is not happening

i don't wanna end up suffering the same fate (as in, handing in a proposal, discussing with the LA team and ending up throwing it all out)

[lavish linden]

yeah

good to discuss it beforehand

[tepid frigate]

Okay time to see how stupid I am

So why doesn't pressing the keybind kill me

Trying to learn SecretAPI so I can make my own settings in the future

[worn isle]

Uhhhh

Does it not work?

Any errors?

[tepid frigate]

No haha

[worn isle]

What version?

[tepid frigate]

No errors

Game version? Latest 14.1

[worn isle]

Secretapi version

[tepid frigate]

Uhh lemme check

0.5.0

[worn isle]

And can you try compiling .Examples and trying that one

[tepid frigate]

I feel like I'm overlooking something obvious

Sure lemme download it from the repo

[worn isle]

I swear i made 0.5.1

I lied

I didnt

0.5.0 has the fix

idk then

Try a different keybind than 1

like G

Or H

Or smth

I tested it initially w G

[tepid frigate]

Tried different keybind, no dice, I'm gonna compile straight from the example but it might be a couple minutes

[worn isle]

My own (very similiar) code works fine on my server

[tepid frigate]

^ this is really just gonna be something about me being dumb

[worn isle]

i have no clue

Looks fine to me

Check LocalAdminLogs for any errors maybe

SCP Secret Laboratory/LocalAdminLogs i believe has it

[tepid frigate]

Okay gotcha

My log is just a bunch of this lmao

I'll be honest programming makes me feel like a supreme idiot sometimes

Like why

[worn isle]

That stuff is normal

Go towards the bottom

[tepid frigate]

It's my latest log

[worn isle]

Join and click the button

Keybind wtv

See what it tells you

If theres no error idk

[tepid frigate]

Let me restart my local server, do it, and then grab the latest log

No errors 😭

[worn isle]

Huh.

[tepid frigate]

I'm trying to build the example and now I can't add the references from /Managed and I'm genuinely so lost rn

[worn isle]

Now that is interesting

[tepid frigate]

I'm not that good with this stuff

I just wanna make a cool menu for admin tools

[worn isle]

me when no works

[tepid frigate]

I feel like I'm being a major dumbass I just wanna make cool menu guy

[worn isle]

Idk it should work

@ruby sand uses it for wrappers and i havent heard any complains recently about it not working

[tepid frigate]

Idk I'm feeling rather small like a little ant

Lmao

[worn isle]

If ur copying my example that should also work cuz thats the code i used to test the wrappers worked

[tepid frigate]

Why is it that every time I've tried to test SSSS today it's completely crapped out on me

[worn isle]

No clue

Also its 3 am so im likely hopping to sleep

[tepid frigate]

Sounds good

I'm just like

Idek

[tepid frigate]

I mean I can't even get one project to build I'm feeling like the king of dumbassery today

Am I cooked?

[gray nova]

Lol

[tepid frigate]

This community is fr the best where else am I gonna lose my mind about basic shit and drag other people into the most easy to solve mess

[lapis bluff]

do NWAPI plugins work with labAPI

[grim plume]

No

[knotty pivot]

what is the best way to test plugins, should I host a server on my pc or get a hosting service?

[white dove]

Download the dedicated from Steam

[knotty pivot]

ok I did, any guides on how to setup?

[lyric wagon]

The tech wiki has a few guides you might find helpful:
https://techwiki.scpslgame.com/books/server-guides

[knotty pivot]

thank you

[knotty pivot]

I got a server running but when I try to connect to the server it says that the specified host is not available, anyone any idea?

it's hosted on the same pc, do I need to port forward?

[grim plume]

Are you joining with localhost?

[knotty pivot]

not sure, I just tried to connect to my Ipv4

[grim plume]

Do localhost

[lyric wagon]

If you are typing in your external ip, yes
I'd recommend just typing localhost

[knotty pivot]

it doesn't work either

[lyric wagon]

Does anything appear in your server console?

[knotty pivot]

nope

[grim plume]

Are you hosting it on a different port than 7777?

[knotty pivot]

no, it's on 7777

the only thing I changed in the config is the server name and ipv4_ip

[grim plume]

you typed localhost like this correct?

[knotty pivot]

yes and it says that it couldn't find it

[worn isle]

localhost:7777

you need to port specify

[fair lintel]

not required

[knotty pivot]

didn't do it either

[worn isle]

damn

ive always done that

[knotty pivot]

server console says nothing either

[fair lintel]

is the server running on your machine?
check what ip it's listening on

[knotty pivot]

same ip as my pc's

[fair lintel]

me when i open the console and type "lh" then enter

[worn isle]

fair enough

[fair lintel]

in that case you need to specify the IP (if you've set it explicitly in the config)

omitting the IP sets it to localhost (or 127.0.0.1)
if you specify something like 192.168.0.100 then you need to connect to that

[knotty pivot]

in which config btw, steam/common/dedicated only has config templates

[fair lintel]

%appdata%/SCP Secret Laboratory/config/port/config_remoteadmin.txt

[knotty pivot]

should I leave it blank?

[fair lintel]

yea

then you need to connect to localhost

[knotty pivot]

what does the config_template do btw?

[worn isle]

theyre templates

A document or file having a preset format, used as a starting point for a particular application so that the format does not have to be recreated each time it is used.

[knotty pivot]

it worked thank you :D

[fair lintel]

[fair lintel]

bruh

[worn isle]

wdym bruh 💔

i gave them what a template is 💔

[fair lintel]

nothign

[knotty pivot]

lol but does the server copy from the template to appdata or are they just there for guidance?

[worn isle]

theyre just for guidance

they do nothing in practice i believe

[knotty pivot]

ah ok, so everything server related is in appdata

guys I didn't need to port forward and my friend is able to join, does this mean it's automatically port forwarded or is something else going on

[fair lintel]

the server forwards the ports automatically

[knotty pivot]

awesome

thank you all so much

[ruby sand]

fyi

just type localhost in client console

connects you to localhost:7777

[grim plume]

Doing direct connect is just muscle memory for me now

[primal elbow]

@dr.dinspit

[fair lintel]

ölh<enter>

or

`lh
then enter

and ` again

[misty basin]

@fair lintel #1373707916527407296 message
It'd be nice if the jail command had a different name as it conflicts with cedmod's jail command

otherwise plugin is very nice

I've missed my dropsize

[fair lintel]

You can disable jail ig

Or uninstall cedmod

[misty basin]

[fair lintel]

Proot

Anyway

I might add a name option to the jail config

[misty basin]

alright disabling jail works

[fair lintel]

Make an issue on GitHub so I don't forget lol

[misty basin]

Will do

[fair lintel]

I'll probably only get to it if it gets more engagement

-# I'm lazy

[misty basin]

aint that the truth

[fair lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-jockey-minecraft-minecraft-movie-true-gif-15664202093351630764

[misty basin]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-movie-flint-and-steel-gif-4491320584761369279

[fair lintel]

Lmao

[scarlet sigil]

Please wrap FpcRotationOverrideMessage rotation values with Mathf.Repeat before using InverseLerp otherwise rotations like 500° will turn into 360° instead of 140°

[keen parcel]

WATCH OUT

thats IL code

[burnt hemlock]

[fair lintel]

I mean you can do that yourself

[eternal garnet]

[fair lintel]

What are you on about 😭

[scarlet sigil]

Sorry, I just got the impression that for once nw decided to do an update where they actually care about plugin devs, should I not report obvious bugs like that and just patch them on my server/on exiled?

[fair lintel]

I personally don't consider it a bug cuz you wouldn't really look in an angle outside of the range [0,360[

[worn isle]

thats not the issue theyre referrng to tho

they mean that if you add to a rotation, they want it to loop back to 0 and restart the count

and then you ofc make sure its 0-360 still

[fair lintel]

Yeah but you might as well validate the range yourself

Before passing it to the method

Would it make sense for the method to validate it? Maybe
Is it an issue that it doesnt? Ehhhh

[scarlet sigil]

You wouldn't look, but you very much can get an angle like this from math

Look at how quaternion multiplication works

and how it is used

[scarlet sigil]

You might as well make a game yourself lol
That argument is just as wrong as it it annoying

[fair lintel]

I know

[fair lintel]

I did run into this angle clamping issue not once
Just make an extension method that overrides rotation with Mathf.Repeat

I get that you can get values outside of the 0-360 range but it didn't occur to Northwood and it probably isn't worth for them to fix it

[scarlet sigil]

but it didn't occur to Northwood
The only reason it didnt is because they dont use it.

[fair lintel]

Yeah

[scarlet sigil]

The most basic example of quaternion math is that player.Rotation = Quaternion.Euler(0, 180, 0) * player.Rotation; turns the player around. With the current implementation it does so very inconsistently and inverses pitch. This is a design flaw, otherwise known as a bug, by definition

[fair lintel]

Player.LookRotation gives you angles so you don't have to multiply it
Though it still suffers from clamping

[scarlet sigil]

Sorry what?

The code example in my message is (should) turn the player 180 around Y axis

What does it have to do with there being an option of using Player.LookRotation

[fair lintel]

with the current implementation it does so very inconsistently and inverses pitch
Isn't that the issue with using Rotation?

[scarlet sigil]

That is an issue with how it is implemented, which i suggest to change for it to work correctly

[fair lintel]

Be sure to make an issue on GitHub otherwise it'll be unlikely to get noticed by NW

-# unless if I ping david

[halcyon frost]

it will be unnoticed in that way too

[fair lintel]

Shh

[sonic silo]

is https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1336031121699377213 the only reliable way to find new plugins made with LabAPI? I have tried searching on github with tags, but quite a lot of plugins either don't have the right tag or are made for exiled exclusively.

[humble arrow]

Oh, damn, I just realized i never tag my plugins

[humble arrow]

I think so

LabAPI is relatively new anyways

its been around for like a month

[blazing shale]

Is Player.UserId the steam id?

Using SqlLite and I need a key to use for each player

[lyric wagon]

Yes

It should return the Steam / Discord / Northwood ID

[blazing shale]

Gotcha, thanks

[humble arrow]

storing UserId of DNT players breaks VSR

add a check

[blazing shale]

How does steam ID break VSR? Steam ID is pretty much… everything.

[humble arrow]

If they have DoNotTrack enabled, then you will not track them

this includes SteamID

there are other ways to keep track of a particular player within the round anyways

like Player::Id (the integer representing them)

[blazing shale]

It’s global stats that persist between rounds

[humble arrow]

if its not security related then you cant track a DNT player's userid

[hushed jasper]

If they don't want to be tracked, then you can't enable global stats for them

[humble arrow]

so no global stats.

[halcyon frost]

if (player.DoNotTrack)
return;

[patent hemlock]

How to find the elevator the player is in?

[eternal garnet]

[white dove]

foreach(Elevator elevator in Elevator.List)
{
  if(elevator.WorldSpaceBounds.Contains(player.Position)
  {
    // your code
  }
}

[patent hemlock]

But when a player rides an elevator, the server understands that the player is inside the elevator in order to move him

[teal viper]

wdym

[fair lintel]

https://github.com/Axwabo/SCPSL-Helpers/blob/aab8537233cc2b97753a3fe9de292e4616ebb9e7/Axwabo.Helpers/PlayerInfo/Containers/BasicRoleInfo.cs#L55

i guess you could use something like this

to get the elevator

probably not as efficient as looping through elevators only

[white dove]

Yeah world space bounds..

They are updated with elevator movement

[fair lintel]

Bounds is axis-aligned, right?

can't have diagonally placed elevators

[patent hemlock]

Oh. Thx for response

[sage hearth]

Hm, using a raycast to look at a Pickup on the ground, how would go about to get the Pickup as a reference?
GetComponent<Pickup> on the collider?

🤔

[worn isle]

Pickup.Get(collider.gameObject) i believe

Also prob use #plugins-dev-chat

[sage hearth]

Sorry

[worn isle]

its probably fine

just think the dev chat is more appropriate lol

[sage hearth]

Will move there

[simple slate]

Yep bounds in unity are AABB, OBB is too expensive eventualy u can have box collider on the object and use is vertices as bounds

[fair lintel]

OBB

https://tenor.com/view/vectron-öbb-vectron-siemens-train-öbb-gif-15283831461483881602

[eternal garnet]

LSD

[fair lintel]

I do NOT want to figure out how convex hull creation works

[old relic]

Don't the elevators rotate as they go up?

[warped shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/947857954655322133/1377031397205868554/A_Weapon_to_Surpass_Metal_Gear.mp4?ex=68377bed&is=68362a6d&hm=091402280fe0cfc1602e025415d3a5ff52cc4d8fcd5554507c40f9a0e78800fb&

[sullen apex]

how do u even do that

do u just fuck up the attachment code

[worn isle]

by being nw and having source to delete parts

[sullen apex]

i feel like u could maybe change attachments to do that though

[worn isle]

Idk

[humble arrow]

I know its possible in plugins

ive seen it before

I had someone tell me something about attachment bytes or something but that didnt really work

I dont think its from michal having source access but that is very much possible

firearm.Base.Status = new InventorySystem.Items.Firearms.FirearmStatus(firearm.Ammo, InventorySystem.Items.Firearms.FirearmStatusFlags.MagazineInserted, 0u);

thats what the guy told me

probably doesnt work for new version but idk

[warped shoal]

yes

[dawn dome]

[dawn dome]

W cursed guns....

[white dove]

Reminds me of this fella

[ruby sand]

recoil must be insane

[white dove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/kkw03t/an_ar15_with_a_2_inch_barrel/

[regal arrow]

nw when the snipers will get to me?

[rose cedar]

we no longer use snipers

we've moved to orbital lasers

[regal arrow]

im waiting then

https://tenor.com/view/grand-theft-auto-v-grand-theft-auto-v-online-obliterated-orbital-cannon-gif-21059356

this is me in 3 seconds

probably

[regal arrow]

if i die

im going to release all nw secrets

and the secret identity of hubert

https://tenor.com/view/raul-menendez-frank-woods-black-ops-2-call-of-duty-black-ops-2-gif-3716436911996677109

[ivory narwhal]

I have only ever seen that with the 127 plugins 😂

So good.

[humble arrow]

no please explain your specifications instead of just saying you want a hud

[potent flicker]

imagine it took you 28 days to update your plugin because your dumb ass didn't want to mess with it

[humble arrow]

Whose plugin is this

[potent flicker]

my own ;-;

thats the thing_

well WirelessCards is now finally updated ;-;

after one month

because i didn't had motivation

[sharp summit]

I wonder what plugins I could be missing out on which haven't been posted in #1336031121699377213

[ruby sand]

loads of exiled plugins

[sharp summit]

my server is running on base alpine

try me

[ruby sand]

what?

[sharp summit]

my server is running on alpine linux

[ruby sand]

ok?

[sharp summit]

exiled aint an option for me

[fair lintel]

not sure why that's a blocker

[ruby sand]

i dont know why alpine linux would be a blocker

if labapi can run, so can exiled

[sharp summit]

Alpine Linux has barely any mono support, which makes it really shit for anything C# (Unity).

Haven't really tried getting Exiled yet, but I'm unsure as of now because of Alpine's lovely libs

[halcyon frost]

My ass

You can download latest .net sdk

On alphine

Also mono stuff included in the sl server

So again MY ASS

[sharp summit]

With .NET's latest SDK (9.0)

The application runs perfectly on ubuntu docker containers.

[halcyon frost]

Maybe dependencies not installed?

Check your logs

There is a linux dependency .txt read it

[sharp summit]

Sadly, Mono isn't available on Alpine.

[halcyon frost]

https://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/edge/community/x86_64/mono

[random knot]

https://github.com/Docker-Hub-frolvlad/docker-alpine-mono

[sharp summit]

I'm vexed that this doesn't come up on apk list

[bleak patio]

yo does anyone do commisions here

[frozen thicket]

i could prob help but i am new but i could try to do a commision

[tiny crow]

The permissions file is sometimes just deleted( empty)
And no default config is getting deployed which resluts in the server not starting at all

[modest harbor]

does it happen with every plugin you have?

[tiny crow]

Its the lab api permission file

Thats why the server wont even run

I could reproduce this error when the storage was full

It broke the file

Then after ofc having 200 gb available again it does not make a default config even tho it is an empty file

Or whatever

Its konda strange

(so when storage is full and the server is running ig the permissions of labapj get deleted for some reason

And then then the server just wont work

Not a huge issue

[modest harbor]

we will see if we can do something about it

thanks for reporting

[cursive silo]

holy moly that's a lot of people

[plain sage]

Holy shit is that the man, Hubert Moszka z Polski?

[dawn scarab]

I need someone's help

Server loves crashing randomly on waiting for plays and it's not Exiled related so idk wtf it is

But I need to know if I'm the only one

[halcyon frost]

go to LocalAdminLog

and seee

[dawn scarab]

Thanks captain obvious

But I have in fact checked that, like amillion times

Either way someone helped me so I think it's gone now idk

[halcyon frost]

the game doesnt just crash

plugin issue can be so

[dawn scarab]

No the server lol

But I mean this statement is kind of false anyway, I mean it's SL

[fair lintel]

Remove some plugins and see if it happens still

[eternal garnet]

use 2 cores than 1

[fair lintel]

it's not really gonna make a difference for the single-threaded nature of unity

[dawn scarab]

I literally just said it's fixed

Also yeah Ax was right it's not a cores issue

It was some random LabAPI plugin

[fair lintel]

which one? contact the dev, maybe they can fix it

[dawn scarab]

I can't remember I just removed random ones

Might've been Facility Manager

Which I don't even know what the fuck it's there for

[eternal garnet]

owner moment

[dawn scarab]

Oh says you you

This thing of a server has been driving me crazy fr around 7 monthd

[old relic]

Made some tools for admin toys, cant wait to use this on an actual server with players

[vapid crescent]

Is there a labapi equivalent of SCPUtils?

[cerulean coral]

godzilla is die

[hybrid quarry]

[pulsar wasp]

is there scpswap for labapi? becuase the one i found is for exiled 1.0.0.0 and exiled is currently at 9. something

[vapid quarry]

Thats the plugin's version not the api's

[prisma nexus]

1.0.0.0 only mean he didn't set the version it's was build on

If it's load it's more likely than it's up to date

A 1.0.0 would not even load at start of the server

[sterile sundial]

#1187132241726427247 message

[pulsar wasp]

thanks

[pulsar wasp]

no, it was crashing actually. like ti said it failed to load becuas eit didnt find exiled 1.0.0.0

[steady wagon]

is there a labapi equivalent to Item.Create in exiled?

[steady wagon]

nvm i found a way easier way to do what i'm doing

[slate jacinth]

Is there a way to have scales be reliable yet? Like persist after rejoining/joining

scalechange does change scale but have another join and their scale will be reset to 1 but their position will not (floating midair)

[white dove]

Sorry for any troubles caused. I checked our last internal version and it seems to be fixed

If you want workaround for now, wait 1-2 frames after player joins and then send him the FpcScaleMessages again

[slate jacinth]

Thanks, works for me. 🙂 Just had to vary the Scale by a small random amount so that it's properly updated and not floating midair

[white dove]

@slate jacinth Or you can patch FpcScaleController.OnPlayerAdded(ReferenceHub hub)

and add the delay there

[worn isle]

is that what basegame did for fix

or what

[white dove]

No it got fixed with the instant rolesync

[worn isle]

o

h

so what ur saying is scale will work without any delay next update?

[white dove]

Yea

[worn isle]

YIPPIE

[white dove]

I fixed it when cyn told me about that

It also fixes the black screen on miniwave respawn

if you die and instantly respawn

[worn isle]

what was fix

[white dove]

Division by 0 happened

cause there was a chance for a frame to have sum of maxhp to be 0

[worn isle]

sobs

[white dove]

and Mathf.Clamp01 ignores it

So it just put your blood on screen effects to NaN

[worn isle]

sob

[eternal garnet]

typical nw moment

[wispy crown]

Anyone know how I can change the damage of a live grenade?

[worn isle]

there should be a AnimationCurve in the grenade

ExplosionGrenade::_playerDamageOverDistance

its private but if you use a publicizre you can make it public

you could use ExplosionSpawningEventArgs and set ev.Settings._playerDamageOverDistance

[solar lichen]

what does this means?

[ruby sand]

you didnt install ruei which is a dependency of UltimateHUD

contact the support for UltimateHUD

[worn isle]

heh?

[ruby sand]

look below

[worn isle]

whys there 2

i k

but

still

[ruby sand]

they may have installed both versions

[worn isle]

whys there

ruei + hsm

[ruby sand]

probably didnt read install guide

ultimatehud has 2 versions

ruei and hsm

this person may have installed both and didnt read the install guide

[solar lichen]

all good it works now

[cedar wasp]

good to hear

[fair lintel]

footgun

make sure to instantiate a new animation curve

otherwise you change the damage of every single grenade

[slate jacinth]

PlayerEvents.Spawning
PlayerSpawningEventArgs
UseSpawnPoint property is always true, despite what you set it to in Remote Admin, does anyone else experience this?

[prisma nexus]

i would have thinks it's was a new instance everytime

@fair lintel

[fair lintel]

nevermind

unity is weird

[tepid frigate]

YES FUCK YES

[primal elbow]

Same

[primal elbow]

How can i place blood to the floor?

[cerulean coral]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/blob/master/LabApi%2FEvents%2FArguments%2FPlayerEvents%2FPlayerPlacingBloodEventArgs.cs
https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/blob/master/LabApi%2FEvents%2FArguments%2FPlayerEvents%2FPlayerPlacedBloodEventArgs.cs

[ruby sand]

that's not what they asked for

they wanna know how to place blood

not how to track

unless they asked wrong

[cerulean coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1356765177298817105/1385408506349224107/togif-24.gif

[primal elbow]

how can i get a room on what elevator located?

[zealous hedge]

Elevator didnt have a ConnectedRooms property ? Or something like that

[brazen hedge]

i need a plugin that lets scps talk to other players

[half peak]

#1388150023111446580

[fair lintel]

#1388150023111446580

Mb for double ping lol

[half peak]

[ruby sand]

did you give up with ur prox chat plugin then?

EWWW WHY DOES IT NEED HSM

WTFFFFFF

[worn isle]

also breaks other plugins using settings

[ruby sand]

that plugin does? then why are we recommending it…

[errant shale]

buhhh

[ruby sand]

requiring hsm (why???) and then removing all SSSS stuff?

nah

[brazen hedge]

thanks!

[ruby sand]

in other words, don’t use the plugin…

[fair lintel]

No

I just need a few less excuses

[ruby sand]

i can put the plugin on my server to test for u :3

if ur worried about tests that is

[fair lintel]

Um

[fair lintel]

ßß

[brazen hedge]

when i speak as scp the other classes dont hear me

i already tried setting the keybind in server specific setting

[fair lintel]

Did you configure it properly

Try contacting the dev through the post

[brazen hedge]

default

[fair lintel]

Follow the guide in the README to set it up

[desert sinew]

Hello, is it possible to have a role with different colored letters? If it cannot be done naturally, can it be done using plugins? Thank you

owner_badge: '<color=#5bc0eb><b>C</b></color><color=#f4d35e><b>R</b></color><color=#f5f5f5><b>E</b></color><color=#5bc0eb><b>A</b></color><color=#f4d35e><b>D</b></color><color=#f5f5f5><b>O</b></color><color=#5bc0eb><b>R</b></color>'
owner_color: blue
owner_cover: true
owner_hidden: false
owner_kick_power: 255
owner_required_kick_power: 255

❤️

[red stag]

What is the LabAPI equivalent to MapEditorReborn?

[grim plume]

https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1339593773788958852

[worn isle]

https://github.com/michal78900/ProjectMER

[red stag]

The unity shit can't find NewtonSoft, what do I do?

[worn isle]

wat

show error

[worn isle]

contact PMER

[red stag]

Doesn't help that I'm in a slightly newer version but I'm not switching

[worn isle]

they have a discord

[red stag]

Where do I find it?

[red stag]

Thanks

[fair lintel]

np

[red stag]

Oh 💀

[deep wraith]

can i ask what plugins are ?

[hushed slate]

Plugins are basically server-wide mods.
Its basically just Drag from downloads and drop into the correct plugin directory.

[humble arrow]

plugins operate on the entry point defined by labapi and on events being subscribed

[deep wraith]

is there full mods for both client and server side ?

like new maps and such

[hushed slate]

No

its only serverside

well...

kind of...

They operate server-side but work across clients

Its a bit difficult to explain.

[deep wraith]

are they loaded on server join ?

[hushed slate]

They get loaded when the server is turned on

[fair lintel]

you can spawn primitives on the server to create "maps"
#1339593773788958852 #1338613365555335300 #1338831766592684063

[deep wraith]

ahh thats a hack, i like that

but no custom asset loading

[hushed slate]

Not a hack

[deep wraith]

well, creating a level at server start through code is def a hack

[fair lintel]

no

[hushed slate]

It isn't

[fair lintel]

you build the objects in unity or blender

then export them and load them in SL

like this

[hushed slate]

They were asking about plugins in general

[fair lintel]

ah

[deep wraith]

no i was speaking about building 3d things

[hushed slate]

Ohhh

[deep wraith]

like doing with plugins is a hack

[hushed slate]

generally, people use Map editor reborn

[deep wraith]

cause this would be a pain to model and not great for performance

[fair lintel]

talk about servers that have tens of thousands of primitives loaded at the same time

[deep wraith]

i wish this project was open source 🙁

[hushed slate]

Stuff like that is on the MER workshop

and primitives aren't really too heavy on servers

When you have a lot of them, then its a problem

[fair lintel]

they are rather heavy on servers, not so much on clients

[deep wraith]

yeah on server they can be ignored if just for rendering

unless u have physics on them

[hushed slate]

That's what I meant. Used the wrong word.

[hushed slate]

Primitives don't have physics

they are static props

[fair lintel]

you can add physics

[hushed slate]

By default they don't though

[fair lintel]

and they most definitely don't have to be static

[hushed slate]

a part from colision

[deep wraith]

why would they be heavy on server then

yeah well

collision is physics

since the game engine has to check it for physics collision

[fair lintel]

because they're not server optimized at all currently
next update should bring improvement to that
people usually don't mark their objects as static, leading to load on the server because it sends updates of non-moving objects

[deep wraith]

that makes much more sense

what do they use for networking ? photon ?

[fair lintel]

ew

no lol

mirror

[deep wraith]

mirror ?

ah yes better

[fair lintel]

still not the perfect framework but eh

[hushed slate]

Mirror is a base-game plugin SCP SL Uses, its in the game's files and is essential for some things to work.

[deep wraith]

at least its open source

there is also network for gameobjects by unity

[fair lintel]

imagine sending a letter to another country, waiting for it to return and doing this 2 more times
"give me your positoin"
"rotation"
"scale"
and you gotta find out where to send the letter to every time you wanna send it

[deep wraith]

why would it send a "give me ur position"

does it not use a tick system

[fair lintel]

analogy for getting transform 3x in the same method

and setting position, rotation and scale for mirror to send to clients

[deep wraith]

yeah but thats how networking for games works in general

well for basic setup

[fair lintel]

i'm not talking about networking

[deep wraith]

for controllers u use input replication

[fair lintel]

just unity interop

going to the c++ runtime to get everything

multiple times in the same method when you could do it once

[deep wraith]

u mean read and writes

[fair lintel]

the 3 transform getters are horrible

for a couple primitives you wouldn't notice, but with thousands, there is a noticeable drop in TPS

usually people use the MEROptimizer plugion along with MER to lift this load (by creating client-only primitives)

[tepid frigate]

What if I make this by hand and hardcode it

[fair lintel]

Well then you're on your own

[tepid frigate]

I have a slight wanting to learn blender but goddamn that sounds like a pain

I also wanna maybe learn Unity sometime cause I feel like that may be important for what I do

But we'll see

[vapid grove]

Can I make dummy walk to diff positions? Or reload gun...?

[chrome zinc]

yes and yes

[vapid grove]

HOW O_O

I cant find that

[worn isle]

check what the game does for following player

theres a follow player script but afaik it uses Vector3.Move or something

reload gun you have to use what SL does for emulating keypresses on server side for dummies

[fair lintel]

You can set the ReceivedPosition on the FpcMotor (I think)