plugins-dev-chat

[unique crane]

or just look for direct sources of copy

I mean im banning him either way

[celest thorn]

did it

check your dms

[unique crane]

but would like to have directly posted copy of a plugin

[slow grotto]

I've already done that with another plugin...

[upper vapor]

dam

[celest thorn]

damn

[celest thorn]

I already did in dms

[restive turret]

tbh whenever i see plugin auto update i just dont like it

[celest thorn]

d

w

[celest thorn]

I just make my own plugins

[upper vapor]

🗣️🗣️

[celest thorn]

i love suffering

[upper vapor]

there is a reason why nuget defaults to the smallest possible version

[wary gust]

is there any way to debug something like this?

[2026-02-28 17:37:24.426 +00:00] [STDOUT] Caught fatal signal - signo:11 code:128 errno:0 addr:(nil)
[2026-02-28 17:37:24.426 +00:00] [STDOUT] Caught fatal signal - signo:11 code:128 errno:0 addr:(nil)
[2026-02-28 17:37:24.603 +00:00] Game process exited and has been killed, no need to kill it.
[2026-02-28 17:37:24.603 +00:00] The game process has been terminated...

that's LA logs so that's all I get. No exceptions above either

[celest thorn]

you know you fucked up

when you see this

think about what you added recently

and remove it

and see if it works

[upper vapor]

if you have async void, maybe that can cause it

[unique crane]

😐

[upper vapor]

at webdev

this is what happens when you vibe code your platform

WAIT

what if they took database writes down with all the slop

[slow grotto]

I just added an old plugin to test, it looks like it added correctly

Let me just vibecode a few more plugins, just to be sure.

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-car-silly-cat-sad-scary-gif-12889095585962936860

[slow grotto]

Could have just been opened since I can now report their plugins now

[wheat flower]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1270170808622256169/1477366953386442783/2026-02-28_13-07-05.mp4?ex=69a480b1&is=69a32f31&hm=339acb97e2ddb22afbeea07403ae355af621439c9d5b8a3577c7071a266078db&

[grand flower]

nice

[wheat flower]

my brain is trembling...

(im gonna make a custom yaml parser this shit is ass)

[restive turret]

yaml already ASS

[wheat flower]

https://tenor.com/view/im-so-freaking-scared-markiplier-iron-lung-iron-lung-markiplier-markiplier-iron-lung-gif-4110260922324338082

[upper vapor]

simplecustomroles (yml)

[upper vapor]

how about

jason

[restive turret]

It doesnt change my perspective its ass

I rather do json

Or ini

[upper vapor]

not saying you're wrong

[upper vapor]

or wha

[celest thorn]

ini

why

[restive turret]

Well for some stuff

[celest thorn]

like the one velocity uses

i forgot

looks nice

toml

[restive turret]

Baml?

Toml

Ya that what mc mods using too

[upper vapor]

Jerryl

[restive turret]

Toml & Jerryl

[celest thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1475931905902776483/1475932064501989588/togif.gif

[carmine prawn]

of course, thanks reminder

[upper vapor]

got an email this time

[carmine prawn]

I should turn on more github notification💀

[upper vapor]

github newsletter

github newsletter

github education

"build with ai"

"ai"

"new ai"

"hey axwabo, check out [ai slop]"

"update to copilot"

[restive turret]

github mewsletter

[upper vapor]

meowsletters

[restive turret]

*slopilot

[upper vapor]

trueing

very trueing

[carmine prawn]

[restive turret]

Anyway plz test it works on live

[celest thorn]

I WANT MORE AI SLOP

PLEASEEEE GIVE ME MORE AI SLOP

yum yum

ai slop

[upper vapor]

@grok

you've had enough today already

[celest thorn]

https://zer0twois.strokinit.it/🐀/ywl2esd7.png

https://zer0twois.strokinit.it/🐀/wx5sp2q2.png

[upper vapor]

ai wallpaper/phone background

NAHH

[wheat flower]

using ai to determine if ai slop is good

peak

[celest thorn]

AHHAHAHHA

[upper vapor]

"we have inspected ourselves and found nothing wrong"

[celest thorn]

https://zer0twois.strokinit.it/🐀/wtk60eaa.png

you are safe

I have a crazy stupid question

but i need to know

https://zer0twois.strokinit.it/🐀/4nfvtlyd.png

Ok when can shut it down

im against grok now

[upper vapor]

average grock moment

[cyan crown]

any help with IK i had a lot of issues trying to do last time i could't do horizontal rotation

[celest thorn]

go ask grok

[cyan crown]

☠️ dude

whats up with grok images in the chat?

[grand flower]

What's your issue

[cyan crown]

last time i tried to do IK i only had vertical rotation as for horizontal i couldn't get it to work no matter how much i tried

i don't even have the code anymore i had to clean my github of useless projects

[celest thorn]

idk i've never developed an IK so i wouldn't know anything anyways

[cyan crown]

😿

[grand flower]

Yeah can't help much on unity for that heh

good luck

[celest thorn]

so how we should help?

like with the power of friendship?

[cyan crown]

😿

[cyan crown]

yeah😂

i'll ask hubert since he did build a IK system for 14.0

https://tenor.com/view/scpsl-scp-secret-lab-scp-secret-laboratory-scp-sl-mtf-scp-079-gif-5760647065516151979

[upper vapor]

WTF XDD

[cyan crown]

lol he got launched by the bulkheads

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472407075419586560/1474946325186351174/smg5m.gif

[upper vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1175455327957831811/1432855363945889885/whoops_wrong_one.gif

[cyan crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472407075419586560/1474949797176807605/HeSlipped.gif

[upper vapor]

lmfao

[cyan crown]

ragdolls are so goofy i love them :'D

[upper vapor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1010257243511472198/1038458115487707136/dboi1.gif

[cyan crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1141834152237342790/1469650087939543091/RDT_20260131_142845519332799237348606.gif

[upper vapor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/662825544450048040/1029775509283946517/goodbye_chat.gif

[cyan crown]

it looks like that the door killed him

[upper vapor]

this is so peak

i haven't laughed like this in a whiloe

[grand flower]

wait ragdolls can break windows?

[upper vapor]

nah that was a ball i think

cinema

[grand flower]

oh ok

heh

I have dug myself into a hole and now I have to figure how to access something in the game world from my online code

seems like Epic decided giving access to the game world was optional

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

Hello chat

[icy knoll]

reminds me when i saw some authentication type method which returned true every time because they didnt implement the auth check

it wasnt mentioned in the documentation, you had to look at the code

[grand flower]

I just slap an unimplemented(); whenever I need to be sure to get back to something

it crashes on call

But I'll have mine done today

[cyan crown]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1010257243511472198/1038458115487707136/dboi1.gif

[icy knoll]

throw new NotImplementedException()?

[celest thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020295115828375562/1426574270779359312/pyra-xc2.gif

[restive turret]

its c++ so but ye

[icy knoll]

ah right

true

[celest thorn]

c but with less ++ and a sharp

[grand flower]

This is C++

We also do not use exceptions

Too expensive

unimplemented() just asserts

[icy knoll]

c/c++ users when it comes to those precious nanoseconds:

rust users when it comes to people not using rust:

[grand flower]

Exceptions in game dev are bad in general

Not just a C++ thing

[icy knoll]

ik

[grand flower]

If something shouldn't ever happen I just crash so I can fix it

I hate silencing a ton

[icy knoll]

but they have to be thrown in lots of cases

because how are we supposed to know issues if nothing was said

lol

[harsh thorn]

by crashing the program

[grand flower]

I mean in C# it wont crash you

[icy knoll]

only you make this possible

[grand flower]

but it does in C++ so I just let it happen and fix the crash

[celest thorn]

or return false

[hearty ember]

If("Game=work=ok")
Else if("game=no work=contact nw technical team")

[grand flower]

What

[restive turret]

what

i never crashed

[carmine prawn]

Can I sync AttachmentUtils.AttachmentsValues ReloadSpeedMultiplier to client?

patch is work properly, but no sync

[static meteor]

No

[slate flume]

You can't force things to sync if they're not synced
You'd have to ask someone on the LabAPI team to sync it

[carmine prawn]

[upper vapor]

what the helly

[upper vapor]

crazy emoji

[hearty ember]

Coding

[upper vapor]

I have an idea

Fire rate override module

0 = no override

[sick flume]

Is hint abandoned in next major update?

I heard someone saying that

[upper vapor]

no

DisplayKit will be released, but the hint system will stay (for some time at least)

[icy knoll]

there will be no need for hint frameworks tho, as hints will be used for well... hints and not gui 😭

[upper vapor]

hint framework to DisplayKit adapter

(for the people who are too lazy to move to DisplayKit)

[hearty ember]

Understandable

[celest thorn]

wtf are you doing here

[hearty ember]

Im doing that

[celest thorn]

what

[hearty ember]

What

[celest thorn]

what are you doing?

[hearty ember]

That

[celest thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866374673817403422/1425850638469959710/pyra-xenoblade.gif

[upper vapor]

me watching this stupid fucking channel

[hearty ember]

Toaster

[celest thorn]

idk you join them up too

[upper vapor]

hold on i have an image for this

[hearty ember]

Im holding on

[spare zodiac]

yooo they're back!

[hearty ember]

Lowkey true

[upper vapor]

[hearty ember]

Why aren't you accepting friend requests i want to be friends :(

[upper vapor]

because of so-called "commission artists"

[hearty ember]

same

[upper vapor]

fine

[hearty ember]

Hold on

[upper vapor]

who's on?

[hearty ember]

Try now

That request was instant

[upper vapor]

i have my ways

[hearty ember]

What ways

[upper vapor]

clicky click click

[hearty ember]

Interesting

[upper vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1077030283792097420/1309022003902152774/togif.gif

[upper vapor]

crazy

[hearty ember]

Crazy?

I was crazy once

[upper vapor]

i'm still crazy

[hearty ember]

They put me in a room

A rubber room with rats

Rats made me crazy

Crazy?

[hearty ember]

Toaster

[celest thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1451961854585864436/1452078322686361714/togif.gif

[unique crane]

is that toaster

[celest thorn]

ew

[upper vapor]

is that your piggy bank?

[celest thorn]

clean your fucking place

[celest thorn]

that should be a rat

[upper vapor]

that's not my place

[upper vapor]

brother

[celest thorn]

whoever it is damn if they don't clean

[unique crane]

what

[upper vapor]

toaster

brother

[hearty ember]

Holy shit its toaster

[celest thorn]

protogen = toaster

its so stupid

[hearty ember]

Cuz

[celest thorn]

im delusional

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[unique crane]

Oh

[celest thorn]

but this guy are more than me

[unique crane]

Ik

[hearty ember]

https://tenor.com/view/toast-protogen-furry-gif-24987145

[unique crane]

ik toaster is proto

but

I though you were angry or something XD

[upper vapor]

zer0 run before we flood the chat with furry stuff

[celest thorn]

no

i wanna send a gif

[upper vapor]

ragebait

[hearty ember]

[celest thorn]

that express my full emotions

but if i do it

[hearty ember]

You get banned

[celest thorn]

im gonna get Lucid to spawn

[upper vapor]

/summon SL:Lucid

actually

[hearty ember]

Wrong

[celest thorn]

nah bro lucid is like mahoraga

[unique crane]

erm actually https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053659393520050227/1471082010255556790/IMG_20260211_105416.jpg?ex=69a4b5a2&is=69a36422&hm=d883a4cdff1ba1359ac746612c659d9a039545af17e9cb6514143b01f432c670&

[celest thorn]

why you have that are you joining them?

[upper vapor]

/execute at @p[name=Zer0Two] summon SL:Lucid ^ ^ ^2

[hearty ember]

/summon minecraft#lucid_sl

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/megumi-fushiguro-ten-shadows-cursed-tecnhique-innate-summon-gif-7314075061044604464

i would say this tbh

its far worst

[hearty ember]

Thanks for image

[celest thorn]

or

[unique crane]

Half of my dms are furries

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

https://xenoblade.fandom.com/wiki/Siren

or this

[upper vapor]

i have no idea what i'm looking at

[celest thorn]

getting oblitareted at the speed of light isn't too fun ig

[celest thorn]

im sorry for your lost

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-thanos-thanos-snap-dust-gif-16037423944121739362

[hearty ember]

Don't make me send my furry gifs collection

[celest thorn]

actually im fine

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-gulp-nervous-glup-nervous-cat-cat-nervous-cat-gulp-gif-17492267992575590303

[true quest]

please dont im fine

[celest thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277981780661764146/1466082929749786676/togif.gif

[hearty ember]

Who is you

[celest thorn]

mario is gonna protect us

[true quest]

myself

[celest thorn]

like i geniunly do wonder how tf you become a furry

[upper vapor]

did you mean
mAIro

[hearty ember]

[upper vapor]

based on the image you sent

[celest thorn]

what is the thought process

[hearty ember]

Uhhh

[upper vapor]

it's like

[hearty ember]

Silly

[upper vapor]

"this is so me"

[hearty ember]

Silly :3

[upper vapor]

just like you being trans

"yo i'm a furry"

[celest thorn]

Ig thats different

[upper vapor]

"yo i'm trans"

[celest thorn]

atleast for me

[upper vapor]

"yo i'm feinberg"

[hearty ember]

"yo I'm Heisenberg"

[celest thorn]

"yo im a walmart bag"

[hearty ember]

"yo I'm IBCM"

[upper vapor]

yeah i was sort of trolling

but it's like

it just happens yk

[celest thorn]

idk i saw an increase from when vrchat became popular

so its crazy

[upper vapor]

may be influenced by your childhood cartoon-watching events

[unique crane]

vrchat 😭

[celest thorn]

Its not only that

[upper vapor]

you saw an increase when zootopia 2 came out

[true quest]

vrchat is actually furry propaganda

[celest thorn]

none because he isn't cooking

atleast make it fucking held the pan

lol

[upper vapor]

i accidentally typed "furry" into quick navigation instead of a furry's name

dam

[hearty ember]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-dumb-you-gif-8906255

[unique crane]

https://tenor.com/view/proto-gen-bean-spin-record-player-gif-8908163111569859109

[celest thorn]

yes this is technically a joke but

[upper vapor]

and weeb propaganda
sorry
asian culture enjoyer propaganda

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/add-to-favourites-gif-17225530979352025795

[hearty ember]

Im gona

[celest thorn]

Bro like are you going to become "Toco"

[upper vapor]

"you should tesla gate yourself... NOW"

[celest thorn]

dw i have plans

[hearty ember]

Better furry than weeb

[celest thorn]

i can put yours for next week

[hearty ember]

PLANS?!

[true quest]

frfr

[upper vapor]

plans to invade denmark

at eve

[celest thorn]

yea bro if you prepare your suicide do it with style

[true quest]

no?

[hearty ember]

6 hours to conquer

[true quest]

wtf

[upper vapor]

WAIT YOU TWO ARE IN THE SAME SERVER

[celest thorn]

Better being normal and leave them as interest

[true quest]

weeb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[upper vapor]

your battle will be legendary

[upper vapor]

web

[celest thorn]

wdym?

[unique crane]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-micromanage-gif-20717885

[hearty ember]

Style? Nah

[hearty ember]

Hoi4 mentioned

[upper vapor]

with a what

[celest thorn]

bro this is like 90% of the chat

[upper vapor]

sorry i usually don't talk to humans

[true quest]

never typed that

[celest thorn]

that would implicate you aren't human

[upper vapor]

www.web.com

[celest thorn]

but you are?

so that doesn't make sense

[upper vapor]

i never said that i'm not

[celest thorn]

and if you are talking to me thta means you are talking to another human

so technically you broke it

[upper vapor]

the implications are unreal

speed barked

therefore he's officially a dog

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/developer-we-have-a-bug-gif-9159002844106963379

[hearty ember]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1431006210185756692/1448418967281733754/togif.gif

Hold on

[celest thorn]

what is this thought process?

new plato??

[true quest]

huh

[upper vapor]

your thought process

were you implying that if i'm human i talk to myself?

[celest thorn]

I said "you are a human, and even "if you aren't a human" you are still talking to me which i am"

[upper vapor]

i said usually i don't talk to humans

troll emoji

[celest thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866374673817403422/1425850638469959710/pyra-xenoblade.gif

[upper vapor]

and you don't know how often i talk

so

[celest thorn]

you stay 24/7 on this channel

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-gif-18517945

[celest thorn]

i've never seen you leave this channel for a second

[upper vapor]

wrong

if you had cameras on me then you could make a statement

[hearty ember]

I only seen you in this channel

[celest thorn]

im in your walls

[hearty ember]

Programming nerd

Glad to be hardware technician and not software

[upper vapor]

cuz you don't see the other channels

[upper vapor]

fix my failed HDD pls

[hearty ember]

Ok deal

[celest thorn]

idk why but i expect one of you to become like famous for being a furry with a crazy fursuit or someshit like that

[hearty ember]

That would be 999$ bucks

[celest thorn]

but yea please don't send a pipebomb now

[upper vapor]

i'M not the next BetaEtaDelota

nor the next Monti Wolf

[celest thorn]

who?

who?

[hearty ember]

Im building my own fursuit

Progen

[upper vapor]

fluffy culture

[upper vapor]

progen

[celest thorn]

aren't you rich asf?

like every furry i talk

ARE RICH or dirty poor

[upper vapor]

yeah it's called debt

[hearty ember]

Government's debt

[celest thorn]

no its called working for nasa

[hearty ember]

Progen

[upper vapor]

mods can we pin this guy

[true quest]

I swear every furry I know is so fucking rich

[hearty ember]

That theory was 3 years ago

[upper vapor]

you don't know me

[celest thorn]

mods can we wipe out the furries (oh i forgot nw too would be wiped)

[upper vapor]

the layoffs

[hearty ember]

Why hate on furries

[upper vapor]

because they have free will :(

[celest thorn]

i love the free will i was given and idk i saw so many of them its just resentation more than anything lol

[true quest]

so you are saying you are dirty poor

[celest thorn]

idc but some of them are dirty apples in the entire society

(AND SPECIFICATION FOR THE MODS NOT ALL OF THEM)

[hearty ember]

:(

[celest thorn]

[true quest]

lol

[hearty ember]

Furry = silly

[upper vapor]

mods can also wipe out grep -iE '#triangleupdate'

https://tenor.com/view/silverruns-silver-mods-mcsr-ranked-mcsr-gif-12801217899464082035

[true quest]

shut up

[celest thorn]

yea bro you are scared

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277981780661764146/1384598587572490240/image.psd.gif

[upper vapor]

you still haven't told me how you plan on turning a specific triangle into an arbitrary triangle

[upper vapor]

no

[celest thorn]

I DO NOT WANNA DO THAT

IT WAS A FUCKING JOKE

[upper vapor]

but i'm nowhere near rich

[hearty ember]

AND CAN GIVE YOU WHAT

[celest thorn]

how hard is to understand when i say it like 11 times

[upper vapor]

yet your entire argument in the issue is "we can do anything"

[celest thorn]

that was the first gif i saved on my discord account

[hearty ember]

Lend some money pls?

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/mymomworksforroblox-depressedanime-gif-21487418

[upper vapor]

so you might be taken as seriously as you were serious

[upper vapor]

money laundering?

[hearty ember]

im legal boy

[celest thorn]

tbh bro i don't wanna argue about that

[upper vapor]

yeah bazucki or whoever

[celest thorn]

like im tired asf

I've slept only for 2 hours

i came here to ragebait

[upper vapor]

you posses 2h of sleep?
in what form?

[hearty ember]

Mentality

[true quest]

tax haven? and I know some ppl just hmu

[celest thorn]

Dubai

[true quest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1379924254396776560/1476608347670315159/rokkenjimaimpressed.gif

[hearty ember]

Im gonna go back to fixing pcs

Bye

[upper vapor]

speaking head

[celest thorn]

gn

[hearty ember]

THE HELL U MEAN GN

[celest thorn]

gn

[upper vapor]

did you just assume XN's timezone? that's offensive !!1!1!!!

[celest thorn]

fuck you @regal lake

[hearty ember]

Yea i feel offended

Apologise now

[celest thorn]

gn

[hearty ember]

https://giphy.com/gifs/son-hello-neighbor-tEk7h2pP8A54qmTrGx

[celest thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866374673817403422/1425850638469959710/pyra-xenoblade.gif

[upper vapor]

K.A.T.I.E. will be hearing about this

[hearty ember]

Is that female version?

[celest thorn]

yes

[upper vapor]

yeah

it also has

windows background sound effeccts

[celest thorn]

why

[unique crane]

should have named it glados

smh

and give it the glados voice

[upper vapor]

nuh uh

[unique crane]

boring

[celest thorn]

HALF LIFE REFERENCE RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1418395968210210986/1441107441747234889/togif.gif

[upper vapor]

i don't mess with that

[hearty ember]

Boop

[upper vapor]

too complicated

[hearty ember]

Im gonna boop

Dead chat

Lame

[celest thorn]

dead chat

[hearty ember]

See how us furries kept the chat alive

Axwabo died and the chat died with him

[celest thorn]

because im playin games

bro

[hearty ember]

No ur not tuff

[restive turret]

What the hell happened here while i was sleeping

[hearty ember]

Stuff

[worn gull]

Everything

[slate flume]

Make it happen

[wary gust]

And syncable max ammo

[tulip kiln]

I wanted to travel to Krakow (mind you, we have a direct route from where I live) and I got recommended a detour to Katowice, from there RegioJet route to Warsaw and then to Krakow???

[upper vapor]

You know it's faster

Otherwise you would've waited for your direct train

[restive turret]

Katowice the cs sticker?

[upper vapor]

Bruh

Katica

[restive turret]

🐞

[tulip kiln]

Yeah my train departures from the Titan (holo) 2014 station

[restive turret]

🔥

[upper vapor]

Meanwhile Hungary:
Taktaharkány vasútállomás

[sweet flax]

is there a way to block automatic wave spawning but dont block force spawning using Wave::InstantRespawn

[wary gust]

set tickets to 0? and deny any objective completions maybe?

[tired charm]

you can use this to prevent spawning. it should work with InstantRespawn

foreach (var wave in WaveManager.Waves)
    wave.Configuration.IsEnabled = false;

[sweet flax]

Dummy;127.0.0.1;639081427866093502;You have been automatically banned for teamkilling.;SERVER CONSOLE;639079699866093502

[restive turret]

Lmao

[sweet flax]

i couldnt join my localhost

[restive turret]

Well ye

You banned local host

[tired charm]

you can add your group to FriendlyFireDetectorImmunity to prevent this

[upper vapor]

Or

Server.FriendlyFire = false

[tired charm]

aufjeden

[sweet flax]

no let me make scp fight club

939 vs 3114

[upper vapor]

Right

[restive turret]

Then turn friendly fire detection off

[warped prairie]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/830600268101976084/1473313871661109372/attachment.gif

[restive turret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/431901717429354500/1477699989823295619/watermark.gif?ex=69a5b6db&is=69a4655b&hm=e4502cc422e32f8ef3d894cac8309941c94ff6f344ca25c78291071bea32bb1d&

[soft depot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472406493229219860/1475221829902930221/Completely_normal_gif.gif

[sick flume]

I am curious why didnt nw does this few year earlier

[soft depot]

oopsie daises

[celest thorn]

hello chat

[soft depot]

now that you're back alive again, are you gonna make DisplayServiceMeow (this is a joke lol, you dont have to or anything ofc)

[celest thorn]

and please this time don't use lock

or threading

[sick flume]

I probably will. And also make Compatibility adaptor working under DSM

[soft depot]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

honestly I think it depends on how good NWs default implementation is

[sick flume]

Why's that

[sick flume]

True

[soft depot]

zero's convinced it hurts performance a ton

[celest thorn]

unity doesn't like using threading

[celest thorn]

because it does

[soft depot]

you can still get around it tho

[sick flume]

I will be testing performance today

And see if that's real

[celest thorn]

i will stand my ground but ruei is way more optimized

i remember when i switched my tps went to 60 fixed

even with all the same player

[sick flume]

With same refresh rate?

I see

[celest thorn]

yes

[sick flume]

Fine

[soft depot]

HSM is a lot easier to use though, if RueI just added a compatability adapter and some of the QoL features HSM had, it'd be hard to defend

[celest thorn]

i need a refreshrate really fast for some stuff like Timers

[sick flume]

I will be testing it today

[celest thorn]

etc...

[celest thorn]

Ruei is WAYY easier now

[soft depot]

the fact RueI still doesnt have a horizontal position property is wild 😭

[celest thorn]

you know that?

[soft depot]

still harder to use than HSM lmao

[sacred sierra]

only thing i dont like in ruei rn is bugs like the duration thingy

[celest thorn]

what are you on

[soft depot]

what are you on though?

[sacred sierra]

i dont really think ruel is hard to use rn

[sick flume]

Anyway if the DisplayKit's API is too good then DSM probably won't exist. If it is not that good I will be making DSM.

[soft depot]

I can help too

[sick flume]

If you would like to

[soft depot]

but yea, if display kit was anything like SSS (which had terrible per-player and plugin-specific utility) then wrappers will definitely be made

[celest thorn]

btw

how fast do you guys think i can find a section of a game

i have the unpacked maps

there are a total of 120 sections

[sick flume]

btw is nw making new audio interface?

[celest thorn]

they made it

Speaker toys

[sick flume]

I see

I will try that

[rough tundra]

I have a quick question, what is the best method to delete or move a door? I was able to destroy the game object but while being in 079, the door icon still appears

is it even possible?

and allowed?

[upper vapor]

Look at any of the examples we've posted

Wrappers will be useless

[soft depot]

where?

are they pinned somewhere?

[upper vapor]

Extension members make sense

[upper vapor]

Let me find some

Pretty sure you could look in the stage channel

(Filter by Killers, Slejm and david)

[sweet flax]

its fixed

[sacred sierra]

how is it fixed if the last update was in october

[rough tundra]

anyone? any idea?

[sick flume]

Sry the best idea I have is something like Door.Destroy

[sick flume]

OK then I will update CUI

[upper vapor]

@soft depot

[sick flume]

Well

[soft depot]

yea thanks, I just hope the positioning can also be absolute %'s or something so I can place text anywhere on a players screen without having to do some weird align shenanigans like I would have to with hints

[sick flume]

I can still connect HSM to this system

[upper vapor]

Unity's UI toolkit is very similar to CSS

Not sure if I can reveal more about what features will be available

[upper vapor]

Yeah you can ofc make an adapter to let old plugins use DK

So they don't need to update

[sick flume]

Im really looking forward to that

[soft depot]

hell, you could finally make it so horizontal position is absolute across alignments

[true cedar]

yea im not updating ruei for the new hint system ngl

[sweet flax]

yes you can

i allow

[true cedar]

ruei is very very tightly coupled to the current hint system

[sweet flax]

probably one of the first plugins for the displaykit will be smth like notification system for dev

so its not 3 styles only one

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/stampy-you're-going-to-java-falling-fall-falling-in-hole-gif-15900092247336558740

[sinful bronze]

i will display funny cats gif for players

[upper vapor]

Idk about that

[sinful bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/rb-gif-6315336390111459324

[upper vapor]

Would be cool tho

[icy knoll]

good luck with mirror's max payload limit

[true cedar]

i meannnnn

[sinful bronze]

i will patch mirror

[sick flume]

How about RueICompatibilityAdaptor(

[upper vapor]

Chunking

[unique crane]

It can!

[soft depot]

[upper vapor]

vw and vh my beloved (idk if we use that)

[true cedar]

it's a bit too late for that

[upper vapor]

DK isn't even in beta 😭

[sick flume]

Connect it to DisplayKit

[true cedar]

honestly the main reason i never made a ruei compatibility adaptor besides me being lazy is that its more designed for servers and whatnot where everything is made in-house

that was something i focused on from the very beginning of ruei

[restive turret]

dungeon keeper?

[unique crane]

I wouldnt want to work on ruei if I knew there will be DisplayKit tbh

[true cedar]

yea its kinda just better than ruei in every way lol

[sweet flax]

well one uses only text the other wan can draw shapes

[sick flume]

HSM didnt rely on other framework

[harsh thorn]

wouldnt see why there'd need to be compatability adapters tbh
DK functions completely different from hints (you dont have a single text object lol)

so for it to not be a headache a plugin should just port
or not port and stay using hints until hints get no more support whenever that may be

[soft depot]

I mean, you can draw shapes with text

[soft depot]

thank the heavens lol

if you all decide to re-do SSS, keep that in mind too lol

let plugins define pages for themselves or something

[upper vapor]

donkey kong

[upper vapor]

so for it to not be a headache a plugin should just port
some ppl can't be assed to do that

[harsh thorn]

well uh
then they get to use hints until, hints dont exist

[upper vapor]

true

[harsh thorn]

and have to port anyway

[sick flume]

Make DK version of HSM should be fairly easy

[upper vapor]

i would really like to work on that
but like
uhhhh

[sick flume]

And I see no point not to do that

[true cedar]

sentenced to 10 years of redesigning sss

[upper vapor]

SSSS v2

SSSS v3

SSSS vdeath

[soft depot]

screw breaking changes, we got through a firearm rework ez pz, if we get better SSS fundamentally it'd be hella baller

[true cedar]

at what point do you just give up and make a sss thats as barebones as possible

[soft depot]

wdym by that

just remove functionality 😭

[upper vapor]

yeah why don't we remove SSSS

[true cedar]

no like u can do everything you just like

gotta do it through like

[soft depot]

mirror?

plugin named ASS:

[true cedar]

direct mirror requests or shit

[upper vapor]

you wanna capitalize on SSSS wrappers?

[soft depot]

^^^

https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1392914215571816528

[true cedar]

well i dont see why having a built in wrapper if its

[soft depot]

its a wrapper built on mirror to try and make player-specific stuff as bearable as possible

[sick flume]

So when will DK actually come out?

[celest thorn]

15

probably

[true cedar]

2115

[soft depot]

once something huge stops coming

[rough tundra]

so, nobody knows how to destroy a door from 079 camera system?

[celest thorn]

what

[unique crane]

Cant

[rough tundra]

basically, I wanted to remove a specific door

but it still appears on 079

oh

[celest thorn]

you could

but it would cause desync

[rough tundra]

hm

[celest thorn]

doors are useful for alot of stuff

like movement

[rough tundra]

yeah but there's a door that can be opened but not closed, I really wanted to replace it with another one

[celest thorn]

oh you cannot

[rough tundra]

sad

[celest thorn]

part of the mesh

[rough tundra]

well, I was able to destroy the game object, the only thing remaining is the door icon on 079

I guess that's the best result I can come up with

[sick flume]

3.15?

[restive turret]

you can deny opening or closing the door via event

[sick flume]

Or 3015?

[celest thorn]

15.0

[sick flume]

OK

[rough tundra]

btw, is it a feature that the Lcz SCP-173's gate cannot be closed once opened?

[restive turret]

i blame some door control

[rough tundra]

kk

[soft depot]

yknow it'd also be peak if we could get the micro speed cap controllable via plugin next update

[upper vapor]

what next update

[unique crane]

Your wish shall be granted (20.0 update)

[subtle ravine]

Reminds me of something...

[vast canopy]

Any way to stop player interaction sequence? Like, if he interacting with toy and on any moment cancel it?

[soft depot]

bruh what did I do to my client 😭
it's stuck in idle mode or something XD

[restive turret]

lmao

[soft depot]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[restive turret]

You fucked up something

[soft depot]

I think I accidentally patched in a fully recursive call

[restive turret]

[hearty shard]

guh

[hearty shard]

guh?

[soft depot]

I was debugging something with a prefix, but it was on a unity method, so I tried to call the base method through the prefix, but that took some harmony shenanigans

[restive turret]

@slow grotto Are you sure the PR doesnt break existing mod that using Log.Debug("test", false) or just Log.Debug("yeet)

[slow grotto]

If they explicitly set a bool parameter it will use the unchanged Debug method and let them choose the behaviour. If it is not specified it will use the new one that just adds the debug state before sending it on to the original method. Just manually seperating the implicit canBePrinted=true call as in production you probably don't want it to be true by default.

[icy knoll]

i believe that you removing the = true part actually makes it so it's a breaking change 😭

[celest thorn]

There's a way to sniff packets when mirror is reading them?

[slow grotto]

NetworkDiagnostics.InMessageEvent and NetworkDiagnostics.OutMessageEvent will give you the message but not the connection associated.

[slow grotto]

I'll look more into it

[slow grotto]

So it looks like any plugins already compiled will have their IL baked with the default true parameter regardless of if they specified it or not. They won't reach the new debug check. So not breaking perse, but plugins would need to be recompiled with the new version to utilize it. Not ideal. I could instead modify the original method and throw out the bool but doesn't seem nice to do to people.

The other path wouldn't break the method, but would break anyone using a Debug variable in their Config or other custom logic. That would silence Debug logs everywhere by default, but would that be a net positive or negative change for live servers?

[grand flower]

I think that any breaking change is going to be a negative for logging

[thin shuttle]

anyone remind this Map Existed before

[celest thorn]

God hubert was on something for that

[unique crane]

Good old map

[thin shuttle]

yeah

lol

i love playing Scp079 level 5 in these map

[wheat flower]

i wanna rebuild 5.1.1 but with all the new scps

and items

but same shit guns

i would love an april fools update where its just the old version for a day

too bad no AC

[thin shuttle]

i honnestly kinda hate the ammount of gun update we got

[restive turret]

Tbh there would be more if you want much more syncing stuff

[quiet rune]

how can i Play the sound of a grenade using ExplosionGrenade?

or rather fuse it?

[thin shuttle]

make more syncying but not about gun

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/872170439491850370.webp?size=48&name=trol&lossless=true

[restive turret]

There should be a static method making the effects, basegame has it 100% idk if labapi has it

[quiet rune]

darn

[thin shuttle]

ExplosionUtils.ServerSpawnEffect

[thin shuttle]

for LabAPI TimedGrenadeProjectile.PlayEffect kinda strange to have it in there but that only my opinion

i like that HubertMoon code is still there

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/785689699053600848.webp?size=48&name=kek~2&lossless=true

[restive turret]

Well every holiday code now remains

[thin shuttle]

yeah

[restive turret]

And assets, just disabled

[thin shuttle]

that really great

[thin shuttle]

people will still use them now

but with primitive

:3

and that cool

[restive turret]

Idk where would be it tbh

[soft depot]

man I wish waypoints affected players vertical camera movement, I was almost able to recreate the 3114 strangled effect without audio and stuff 😔

[cyan crown]

scpsl cheaters be like:

doesn't work with items, only weapons.

[slow grotto]

How dare players have autonomy over their actions (though I would have use if we could control vertical rotation as well)

[slow grotto]

Okay, stupid answer:
The audio does a gradual ramp up

_chokeSource.volume = Mathf.MoveTowards(_chokeSource.volume, _isChoking ? 1 : 0, Time.deltaTime * _volumeAdjustSpeed);

The the look logic on the client does a gradual rotation

fpcRole.LookAtPoint(_strangleTarget.AttackerPosition.Position, Time.deltaTime * 20f);

If you enable and disable the Stragled effect every other tick the volume will go up to ~2% on one tick, and 0% on the next. The movement lerp will continue forward every tick it's active though.

[soft depot]

Bro what 😭
I’ll take a look into it when I get a chance

[slow grotto]

Untested, and it could likely look or sound stuttery, and if the server lags the volume could increase. Worth testing though.

[topaz yacht]

What the heck is that

[cyan crown]

Fsp9

Its not SL this is my fan project SCPSL Legacy

[grand flower]

Would be nice to get an FOV slider in SL tbh

[cyan crown]

Viewmodel fov?

Since camera fov is locked at 75

[grand flower]

Camera

[cyan crown]

Ah i see i don't think that will work well due to performance issues but i'll look into it.

I'll probably allow for only viewmodel fov along side some DLSS or FS2 later on development

[upper vapor]

PlayerSearchingToyEvent or something

[cyan crown]

Hi Axwabo

Do you think rebuilding SL in dots will help with performance like stuff like rooms, items (dropped or picked)....etc

I think you can use both gameobjects and dots at same time.

[upper vapor]

i have no experience with DOTS so idk

[cyan crown]

Damn :(

I don't have either but it seems like it doesnt even work on mirror or netcode for gameobjects

Unity netcode for entities does fully support dots tho

[sinful bronze]

This look like scorpion

With this fov

[cyan crown]

lol

I see it now

The fsp 9 without a stock is weird but because SL renders its viewmodel on fov 55 or 60 so you just can't see the weapon fully.

That image i took is with 120 viewmodel fov

[upper vapor]

Quake pro

I can see the fort from 14 chunks away

[cyan crown]

☠️

I will limit the viewmodel slider due to some animations being made for only 55 fov

So max will probably be 75 same as camera

[warped prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/killing-floor-killing-floor-1-kf-kf1-high-fov-gif-5339355594327592762

[hearty ember]

If bad.at.game.Inject.scp.sl.hack.no.ban.100%

[upper vapor]

DNS error: could not resolve host

[hearty ember]

Else nuke.the.round

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[hearty ember]

Do u invest

[upper vapor]

Huh

[vast canopy]

As I can remember event is called only one time, no?

[upper vapor]

Searching events ar3 called if the interaction duration > 0
InteractedToy is called if it's 0

[hearty ember]

What the fack this means

Nerd stuff

[upper vapor]

Labapu

[drifting flame]

You went in nerd chat and got nerd stuff

[celest thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277981780661764146/1466082929749786676/togif.gif

i feel like this now

[hearty ember]

Sigeon pex

[hearty ember]

Im not a nerd

I got here cuz

[hearty shard]

nerds

[unique crane]

Eve

[hearty shard]

nuh uh

[sweet flax]

how can i get the local direction of movemnt of the player

like is he strafing

[upper vapor]

FpcMotor.DesiredMove iirc

[celest thorn]

How could i intercept the packet getting sent by the player before even the server like gets them read like there's a Read if i remember on mirror so patching that before it gets to the function tbh

and even get like referencehub / networkidentity

[upper vapor]

customlitenetlib4mirrortransport

check that

[celest thorn]

there's nothing related to what i said

its just for auth

[terse bone]

I think you're looking for NetworkServer::OnTransportData()

[celest thorn]

https://github.com/MirrorNetworking/Mirror/blob/55373260c96473625a678c048adccaab22aeea48/Assets/Mirror/Core/NetworkServer.cs#L887

i think this one should be fine

handler.Invoke(connection, reader, channelId);

this could be really good ig

[terse bone]

yea this will do

[celest thorn]

because ig i can take RPCs too

nah i probably cannot?

idk

nope

wait no

they are a NetworkMessage

so i can

idk

[upper vapor]

NetworkServer.ReplaceHandler<RpcMessage>

[celest thorn]

there's a problem i didn't think lol

[restive turret]

you cant patch generics

[celest thorn]

https://zer0twois.strokinit.it/🐀/403zotwi.png

I wanted to do something like this

but now that i think about it

its impossible

lol

[celest thorn]

i know that

[restive turret]

what even is the thing you want

[celest thorn]

just log specific packets lol

i wanna see some stuff

but nvm i did it

[restive turret]

then show the class how you did it

thats like the worst

[celest thorn]

wdym?

[restive turret]

"oh i have this specific issue"
"nvm i got it"
like come on

[celest thorn]

I mean i have a problem rn

[restive turret]

if you aint tell what it is then noone can help other than you figuring out it

[celest thorn]

i hope i fixed it

[celest thorn]

yea nah im trying lol

[HarmonyPatch(typeof(NetworkServer), nameof(NetworkServer.UnpackAndInvoke))]
public static class InterceptPacketFromClient
{
    private static readonly MethodInfo ReadMethod =
        typeof(NetworkReader).GetMethod(nameof(NetworkReader.Read))!;

    private static readonly Dictionary<Type, MethodInfo> ReadMethodCache = new();

    private static MethodInfo GetReadMethod(Type messageType)
    {
        if (!ReadMethodCache.TryGetValue(messageType, out var method))
        {
            method = ReadMethod.MakeGenericMethod(messageType);
            ReadMethodCache[messageType] = method;
        }

        return method;
    }

    public static bool Prefix(
        NetworkReader reader,
        NetworkConnectionToClient conn,
        ref bool __result)
    {
        var newReader = NetworkReaderPool.Get(reader.buffer);
        newReader.Position = reader.Position;

        if (!NetworkMessages.UnpackId(newReader, out var key))
        {
            NetworkReaderPool.Return(newReader);
            return true;
        }

        if (!NetworkServer.handlers.TryGetValue(key, out var handler))
        {
            NetworkReaderPool.Return(newReader);
            return true;
        }

        var declaringType = handler.Method.DeclaringType;

        if (declaringType is not { IsGenericType: true })
        {
            NetworkReaderPool.Return(newReader);
            return true;
        }

        var messageType = declaringType.GetGenericArguments()[0];

        NetworkMessage message;
        try
        {
            message = (NetworkMessage)GetReadMethod(messageType).Invoke(newReader, null)!;
        }
        catch
        {
            NetworkReaderPool.Return(newReader);
            return true;
        }

        var player = LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Player.Get(conn.identity);

        if (player == null)
        {
            NetworkReaderPool.Return(newReader);
            return true;
        }

        bool allowed = CheckRegistry.DispatchPacket(messageType, player, message);

        NetworkReaderPool.Return(newReader);

        if (!allowed)
        {
            __result = true;
            return false;
        }

        return true;
    }
}

This is what i had in mind

[upper vapor]

Btw

You can patch generic methods

The myth has been debunked

[celest thorn]

I mean this one works fine

for what i've seen

im trying to see if i can see now

like by deleting packets like SpawnMessage

im stupid why tf the client should send a spawn message 🧠

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/scp-096-fire-halloween-shy-guy-speech-bubble-gif-10234988956008215871

[slow grotto]

Do let me know if this works. Though I think a new "Compelled" effect to force movement/rotation could be an interesting addition to the game.

Something like 012 from CB

[soft depot]

There’s just shenanigans if your generic type can be a value type

[soft depot]

There’s been a suggestion for a FpcDelta network message that would lerp a players movement or rotation without locking it but uhhhh

[slow grotto]

I've been waiting for raw face animation manipulation. Made a request for it but it got closed I guess cause they assumed it was something else.

I've done some testing of it on the client side, and seeing a D boi blink for the first time is something else.

Ah I found it

My boi has such dry eyes

[topaz yacht]

Is there literally just an emotion for blinking?

[slow grotto]

#plugins-dev-chat message

The ones players get with the emotion command are what devs get. I jump between them in my plugin to look like players are talking. But would love to add blinking, eyes looking around, and mouth shapes for phonetic sounds (if the server can handle it)

I think Rust's faces are the closest to what I'm thinking. The jankier the better

[upper vapor]

I've been saying this for years 😭
MovementDelta and RotationDelta messages

[slow grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-professor-farnsworth-a-man-can-dream-gif-12491746995726919913

Maybe I'll push another breaking PR for it

Holup, I was checking the position/rotation override I did before and I just noticed it changed my vertical look at the end... I'll look into that after work

[unique crane]

wtf

[celest thorn]

SL if it was a AAA game

It would be so cool to be able to do stuff like Rotation for the model (so like mario galaxy and planet gravity could be possible) and camera shit

[soft depot]

I've been wanting to do this forever, but managing a players rotation is just so annoying 😂 . How did you do stuff like shooting a gun? Its not like your client was holding anything, so how did you hide the item?

[celest thorn]

magic...

ask grok

[soft depot]

I mean, my best guess is a SSS control, but that's cheating

[spare zodiac]

F5 in SL

[slow grotto]

Since I have to lock the player position and cancel holding items the only way to get those inputs is to have SSS keybinds for every interaction.

[thick sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-bruh-caligari-panik-incine-gif-26749532

I never check these channels and the ONE time I do

[spare zodiac]

wait is this SL?

[thick sinew]

Thats actually amazing

[unique crane]

Your missing a ton of cool stuff, actually

[thick sinew]

FR im checking this chat regularly now

[spare zodiac]

can you make it change by F5 and then show the result?

would love to see

[celest thorn]

You are missing out alot

grok is groking it (yes im developing)

[unique crane]

WHAT

You?

Grok?

[celest thorn]

yes grok

[unique crane]

Are you twitter

[celest thorn]

because sadly the guy who was named grok left

[slow grotto]

Now that the spectator ignore property has been added I think it should be possible. You'd want the dummies preloaded

[celest thorn]

so we need to rebalance the world

[thick sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/the-mask-jim-carrey-jaw-drop-amazed-impressed-gif-4422382

My reaction lowkey 🙏

[slow grotto]

Oh, also that 3rd person plugin had integration with my Talky plugin too, I'd you talk the dummys mouth moves instead

[celest thorn]

wait it was a plugin???

you ACTUALLY made dummies

walking like that

you are mad insane

idk why its so fucking annoying and tps would go down

i did a 2nd person camera for a smash tournament but it wasn't crazy

[slow grotto]

I'm also working on a Replay plugin that would use this or just spectate/filmmaker role

I'm waiting for the new UI elements in 15.0 before I do much more on that though

Displaying a timeline and playback controls in a hint is ass

[spare zodiac]

this person is crazy

[slow grotto]

Also had an AI plugin before Heavy rework broke it. Only really started breaking with like 20 bots pathfinding on the main thread

[spare zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1130946338935275640/1352983007341838419/Bojowka.gif

[celest thorn]

I've done it myself too

mine was shooting, moving, healing and trying to do evertyhing to survive

[spare zodiac]

HCZ pathfinding fix in 15.0?

[celest thorn]

i've updated it since 12.5

but stopped

because of HCZ

[slow grotto]

Something about the geometry of the new rooms don't play well with the NavMesh builder is my best guess

[spare zodiac]

NW fucked up settings of HCZ rooms that fuck up the navmesh is what I remember

[celest thorn]

its so fcking heavy

thats why

[hollow remnant]

hey guys! how to calculate room localPosition?

[celest thorn]

a way to do it would be plane under the map spawned on the server like primitives

[spare zodiac]

roomPosition + localPosition

-# I have no clue if I understood the question

[slow grotto]

I know a guy who may be able to work around that if he knew what settings need to be changed

[spare zodiac]

no clue

[slow grotto]

There's something like Vector3 world to local or some helper class built into unity that might help?

[hollow remnant]

Doesn't room rotation affect this?

[slow grotto]

I have a unity project of the server build (don't tell NW) I can check later, suspecting a collision flag on some room part.

[soft depot]

I wonder what would happen if you deleted all the HCZ rooms server side, then replaced them with imported version via asset bundles or something, and the imported ones had the settings correct to allow a navmesh, if you did that, could you then set up a navmesh?

[spare zodiac]

shouldn't

[spare zodiac]

don't tell NW on the NW server lmao

[soft depot]

Transform::InverseTransformPoint or something

there's unity docs on this

[spare zodiac]

the client will love you

[soft depot]

well what would go wrong?

[spare zodiac]

you would spawn in void

[soft depot]

is there some sort of network behaviour on the rooms? I dont think so

why?

[spare zodiac]

you delete all doors and all waypoints with them

[soft depot]

the waypoints are on the door gng

[slow grotto]

A lot of spawn points and other game elements are parented to the rooms

[soft depot]

interesting

still, if you handled all the children appropriately, could you not get a working navmesh this way?

[spare zodiac]

when you delete room serverside the doors are also removed

[slow grotto]

Oh, does test room in HCZ and candy room still get removed client side if deleted server side?