@forest sentinel well you can but they won't sync properly by default
#plugins-dev-chat
upper vapor
restive turret
Mirror if spawning an object would sent where would be parenting,
upper vapor
You'd still have to tell the client where the primitive should actually be
So
You're not ahead by a lot
and then you have to unparent stuff when the role is returned to the pool
snow ruin
idk how you managed to parent them damn
upper vapor
I guess that saves a tiny bit of time
thin shuttle
it's not about quick or not
it's about how much it's vary between client and Server pos
you don't want server updating to 0.001 millimeter
oh wait
slate flume
Yeeep
slate flume
You could destroy and respawn the pickup every frame
Not sure how else you can skirt the position thing
The game doesn't want to perform a lot of physics calculations and resyncs so it does stuff like that
thin shuttle
You could destroy and respawn the pickup every frame
can we force it to thinks there velocity ?
slate flume
can we force it to thinks there velocity ?
Yeah but wouldn't that cause the client to expect the gun to move in that velocity until the next sync
Also I'm not sure if that would fix that fact that position isn't updated if it's not within a certain range
thin shuttle
Yeah but wouldn't that cause the client to expect the gun to move in that veloci...
if you make it resync every frame
it's would be the best i thinks ?
slate flume
if you make it resync every frame
That is what's already happening
upper vapor
There's a FreezingMode or something that could help
celest thorn
soft depot
Btw to deal with elevators you could probably set the parent of the pickups waypoint to the players waypoint every tick I think
slate flume
Make a waypoint only the pickup uses
Will that sync with the client and has it ever been done before
celest thorn
yes
soft depot
Will that sync with the client and has it ever been done before
Yea Iβve seen waypoints rotate pickups before
Havenβt made a setup to move it perfectly though
slate flume
Yeah my concern is that you won't be able to effectively sync it while also maintaining independence from other pickups and players, but I have no idea what's possible in that realm
soft depot
Yeah my concern is that you won't be able to effectively sync it while also main...
Youβd probably just have to do some fake sync shenanigans
sweet flax
is there a easy way to spawn schematic in the place of gun model / item model in hands because i have run into the same problem of the null in dictioanry please help
its my second day of asking
sharp hedge
if its a gun then i found some code that gets the world position of a gun barrel
i can give it to you later
slate flume
if its a gun then i found some code that gets the world position of a gun barrel
It doesn't always work though
BarrelTipExtension. something
slate flume
the dictioanry is fucking null sometimes
Yep :)
sharp hedge
yea that
sharp hedge
if that doesnt always work then i have no clue
restive turret
<@590224743542554630> get on it slime man
Report it and give a good repro how and when broken
*report as make a git issue or basegame one
slate flume
Report it and give a good repro how and when broken
But I don't know what causes it
restive turret
Me neither
quiet rune
how can i prevent a player from getting flashed? Does OnHurting work?
slate flume
how can i prevent a player from getting flashed? Does OnHurting work?
No
EffectsApplyingEvent
quiet rune
thank you
slate flume
Ofc
restive turret
BarrelTipExtension. something
TryFindWorldmodelBarrelTip
?
quiet rune
EffectsApplyingEvent
Is there any way to check who flashed them?
slate flume
Is there any way to check who flashed them?
Not using LabAPI ππ»
You'd have to do a Harmony patch
FlashbangGrenade::ProcessPlayer
quiet rune
thank you!
slate flume
thank you!
Of course!
restive turret
Sometimes the Setup doesn't run for firearms
Mayhaps this line?
if (AttachmentCode == attachmentCode && _wasEverSetup)
return;
slate flume
Mayhaps this line?
```
if (AttachmentCode == attachmentCode && _wasEverSetup)
...
I would believe it
slate flume
Since wasEverSetup not set to false when it re-setup it or smth
That's wild
restive turret
Will "fix" it , but would be good to give reprod steps how you even do that bug
upper vapor
sweet flax
slate flume
I'm cooler actually
I pointed this out first
Like a week ago
OH WAIT IT'S A REPOST OF MY MESSAGE
YOU FORWARDED MY MESSAGE THAT SOMEONE ELSE FORWARDED
That's fucking awesome
I feel like a celebrity right now
upper vapor
Cinema
slate flume
Dude it was wild finding out for the first time that people know me
I joined a server and some guy was like "Omg it's Tech" and that was a wild experience
upper vapor
"Omg is that guy that guy?"
slate flume
"Omg is that guy that guy?"
Legit
teal junco
you were clippy to me until i remembered i actually talked to you beforehand
slate flume
you were clippy to me until i remembered i actually talked to you beforehand
Yeah I changed my PFP for a while but then changed it back cause I love FNV
hearty shard
heehaw
teal junco
clippy pfps can ironically be such dickheads for some reason, i hate it cus a lot are chill.
slate flume
clippy pfps can ironically be such dickheads for some reason, i hate it cus a lo...
Me 
restive turret
b4 i try and send bullshit builds to QA I wanna test this more.
the PlayerShotWeaponEvent check is enough right?
otherwise i will break more of your plugins
slate flume
b4 i try and send bullshit builds to QA I wanna test this more.
the PlayerShotWe...
Yes
restive turret
well i guess i fixed, i aint see any of that. can you show how exactly this get reproduces? like only from picked up weapon, spawned ones
here is the plugin that shows this plz test and show yo result
also if you want you can do is print "_wasEverSetup" bool too
sweet flax
no more plugin
restive turret
public override void OnPlayerShotWeapon(PlayerShotWeaponEventArgs ev)
{
base.OnPlayerShotWeapon(ev);
Logger.Info($"{ev.FirearmItem.Serial} {ev.FirearmItem.Type}");
if (!FirearmWorldmodel.Instances.TryGetValue(ev.FirearmItem.Serial, out var firearmWorldmodel))
{
Logger.Error("not have worldmoodel??");
return;
}
if (!firearmWorldmodel.TryGetExtension(out BarrelTipExtension extension))
{
Logger.Error("not have barreltip??");
return;
}
}
we shouldnt share dlls so i removed i t
sweet flax
sharing dlls is all the fun its like gambling
hearty shard
we shouldnt share dlls so i removed i t
we arent allowed to send plugin files?
soft depot
(it's just a renamed txt file lmao)
soft depot
(it's just a renamed txt file lmao)
the 2 bytes of death and destruction 
sweet flax
01101000 01101001 of death
soft depot
I actually went back in time to implement that zero day 
sweet flax
```cs
public override void OnPlayerShotWeapon(PlayerShotWeaponEventArgs ev)
...
[2026-02-18 18:34:09.002 +01:00] [INFO] [VeryFunnyNull] 484 GunAK
[2026-02-18 18:34:09.157 +01:00] [INFO] [VeryFunnyNull] 484 GunAK
[2026-02-18 18:34:09.642 +01:00] [INFO] [VeryFunnyNull] 484 GunAK
[2026-02-18 18:34:10.464 +01:00] [INFO] [VeryFunnyNull] 484 GunAK
[2026-02-18 18:34:11.024 +01:00] [INFO] [VeryFunnyNull] 484 GunAK
[2026-02-18 18:34:11.211 +01:00] [INFO] [VeryFunnyNull] 484 GunAK
[2026-02-18 18:34:20.619 +01:00] [INFO] [VeryFunnyNull] 484 GunAK
[2026-02-18 18:34:20.634 +01:00] [ERROR] [VeryFunnyNull] not have worldmoodel??
[2026-02-18 18:34:20.760 +01:00] [INFO] [VeryFunnyNull] 484 GunAK
[2026-02-18 18:34:20.775 +01:00] [ERROR] [VeryFunnyNull] not have worldmoodel??
happend after getting the gun out of inventory
rustic pecan
Hi, guys!
I was using the code of @restive turret while studying of how LabAPI works. I made a simple plugin which applies disguises by executing a command. Everything worked well like 2 weeks ago then some update happened and now it doesnt(
I suspect something is changed or updated in the NetworkWriter 's lib, does sth similar occur to you?
{
PlayerRoleBase roleBase = roleType.GetRoleBase();
if (roleBase is HumanRole humanRole)
{
// Checking UsesUnitNames
UnitNamingRule rule;
if (NamingRulesManager.TryGetNamingRule(humanRole.Team, out rule))
{
writer.WriteByte(0); // UnitNameId = 0
}
}
if (roleBase is ZombieRole)
{
// _syncMaxHealth
writer.WriteUShort((ushort)Mathf.Clamp(Mathf.CeilToInt(hub.playerStats.GetModule<HealthStat>().MaxValue), 0, 65535));
// _showConfirmationBox
writer.WriteBool(true);
}
if (roleBase is Scp1507Role)
{
// ServerSpawnReason
writer.WriteByte((byte)hub.roleManager.CurrentRole.ServerSpawnReason);
}
FpcStandardRoleBase fpcStandardRoleBase = roleBase as FpcStandardRoleBase;
if (fpcStandardRoleBase != null)
{
if (hub.roleManager.CurrentRole is FpcStandardRoleBase fpcStandardRoleBase2)
{
fpcStandardRoleBase = fpcStandardRoleBase2;
}
ushort syncH = 0;
fpcStandardRoleBase?.FpcModule.MouseLook.GetSyncValues(0, out syncH, out var _);
// RelativePosition
writer.WriteRelativePosition(new(hub));
// syncH
writer.WriteUShort(syncH);
}
}```yes
rustic pecan
Sry for ping
restive turret
so you drop, reequip, shoot?
sweet flax
yes
worn gull
With Item.GetAll(ItemCategory) I can get every item in the game with that ItemCategory?
restive turret
nvm _wasEverSetup true does not fix this issue @slate flume
restive turret
With Item.GetAll(ItemCategory) I can get every item in the game with that ItemCa...
yes , should be
sweet flax
and also i think Item::WorldModel position is 0 0 0
slate flume
well i guess i fixed, i aint see any of that. can you show how exactly this get ...
Still no GD clue
slate flume
nvm _wasEverSetup true does not fix this issue <@434572461011501067>
Yay!
restive turret
gd glue
restive turret
muffin?
restive turret
the muffin man?
slate flume
The muffin man!
LOUD
slate flume
nvm _wasEverSetup true does not fix this issue <@434572461011501067>
The problem is that sometimes Setup doesn't run for a firearmworldmodel
soft depot
Hi, guys!
I was using the code of <@590224743542554630> while studying of how La...
uhh this is the code I used for role data in a WIP PR to Exiled
if (data.Role.GetRoleBase() is PlayerRoles.HumanRole { UsesUnitNames: true })
{
if (data.UnitId != 0)
{
writer.WriteByte(data.UnitId);
}
else
{
if (!NamingRulesManager.GeneratedNames.TryGetValue(Team.FoundationForces, out List<string> list))
return actualRole;
writer.WriteByte((byte)list.Count);
}
}
if (data.Role.GetRoleBase() is PlayerRoles.PlayableScps.Scp1507.Scp1507Role flamingo)
writer.WriteByte((byte)flamingo.ServerSpawnReason);
if (data.Role == RoleTypeId.Scp0492)
{
writer.WriteUShort((ushort)Mathf.Clamp(Mathf.CeilToInt(owner.MaxHealth), 0, ushort.MaxValue));
writer.WriteBool(false);
}
writer.WriteRelativePosition(new RelativePosition(owner.Position));
writer.WriteUShort((ushort)Mathf.RoundToInt(Mathf.InverseLerp(0.0f, 360f, owner.Rotation.eulerAngles.y) * ushort.MaxValue));
idk if itll help tho
it also might not work, I havent tested it in a few weeks and idk when last update was π
slate flume
The problem is that sometimes Setup doesn't run for a firearmworldmodel
I added a postfix to the Setup that makes sure it's added to FirearmWorldmodel.Instances and still got errors
restive turret
yeah man, idk how to fix it
soft depot
W dev
restive turret
I never touched Firearm code !!
sweet flax
just ai and pray
cyan crown
just ai and pray
ashen hound
sending data over to servers thru proxy
restive turret
yeah man, idk how to fix it
yeah, no clue
tired charm
sending data over to servers thru proxy
i did something similar with websocket and http requests so i can send events to and requests from a discord bot made with typescript
hearty shard
slimer
thin shuttle
celest thorn
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/478224237065273344/1473764627455410196/im...
lol
frail zinc
Hi guys, anyone experienced the lights flickering with a lots a LightSource Toy ?
unique crane
Hi guys, anyone experienced the lights flickering with a lots a LightSource Toy ...
Yes
Do not use a lot of lights
Nothing you can do about that
nor us
thats unity
Use less with larger distance rather than more with small distance
frail zinc
Use less with larger distance rather than more with small distance
I've tried many solutions to solve that like an optimizer (but it was a tps killer thanks to mirror), and after by using glow but... didnt end well. I think I've also tried your solution, but the lightning wouldnt be the same as with many lights (obviously, but I mean, with that, there will be more dark spot no ? and the lighning will be more "uggly", and there are nothing I can do to solve that isn't it ?)
tired charm
I've tried many solutions to solve that like an optimizer (but it was a tps kill...
i give players the night vision effect for big areas maybe you can go with that
upper vapor
Hi guys, anyone experienced the lights flickering with a lots a LightSource Toy ...
if you're using directional lights, you can't have more than 4 at once
upper vapor
TimeSpan maybe
celest thorn
TimeSpan maybe
.RoleBase.ActiveTime
upper vapor
if you wanna do "x minutes x seconds" then you have to format it yourself
upper vapor
.RoleBase.ActiveTime
ye you can use that but!!!!
celest thorn
so i can do timespan.FromSeconds
upper vapor
get it in Escaping
celest thorn
get it in Escaping
obv??
thin shuttle
if you're using directional lights, you can't have more than 4 at once
i didn't know Unity was that much annoying on light
celest thorn
upper vapor
i didn't know Unity was that much annoying on light
welcome to HDRP
which is not that HD as it seems
"i can't render 5 directional lights 
"
upper vapor
it's a ThrowableItem
celest thorn
but
thin shuttle
thin shuttle
you have other even for that
thin shuttle
pretty normal lol
honnestly it's not done badly
Usable have a fully different purpose than Throwable
restive turret
Ya
celest thorn
Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?
Spongebob squarepants
thin shuttle
C'est Bob l'Γ©ponge carrΓ©e
celest thorn
C'est Bob l'Γ©ponge carrΓ©e
i forgot in french it was called Bob l'Γ©ponge
The sponge Bob
restive turret
Bob the sponge
thin shuttle
hearty shard
Bob the sponge
You
restive turret
Hi eve
frail zinc
Oui oui baguette
frail zinc
if you're using directional lights, you can't have more than 4 at once
Uhm I think I have more like the regular light 
, I think it's the spot light, but i have like between 300-500 lights, which is fine, unless I turn my camera in a specific orientation.. (there is a location where there is a lot of light in a small room)
frail zinc
larger lights that cover large area then adding 50 small ones
Thanks for the advice, but I will try to find an another solution (because I want a beautiful light rendering), like hidding lights in a specific room and show them to the nearby players
static meteor
Culling toy?
frail zinc
Culling toy?
Are they working ?
static meteor
Afaik they should
frail zinc
And for lights ?
restive turret
That a you issue my friend
static meteor
If your using MER idk if it supports it
frail zinc
I'm not limited by MER
I have my own loading system mixed with MER
But are you using culling toy for lights ?
frail zinc
I will thanks, I hadn't though of culling toys before
grand flower
restive turret
<:sip:861703405566558208>
Welcome back
restive turret
Good, i seen you in steamdb
restive turret
Not the way I can interact since i always read it back
grand flower
heh
I've been completely out of the SL dev game and I haven't felt better in a long time
Got too curious about what other devs have been doing here though so I figured it doesn't hurt to just chat and maybe help people from time to time
grand flower
based
glad to know at least one of y'all is helping out
Saw the 15.0 trailer stuff too
Excited to see how surface changes
hearty shard
Guh
restive turret
Btw @grand flower this might interest to you, 60% is like answering questions:
https://youtu.be/-4pmeZiKpwM?si=Z_IcRIZPaFnnxw2t
grand flower
I'll put a pin on that for later once I'm done with work
restive turret
Sure
grand flower
offboarding one of my two jobs atm heh
restive turret
Switching between tasks , couldn't be me
hearty shard
hello EVE
Hello hello
Im rn just waiting for my mom to arrive home so i can say goodnight
grand flower
nice
My next month is packed
Got a trip to San Franscisco with my boss for GDC
and then a trip to France to visit my family
like, 2 days later
celest thorn
just a massive stupid question
how can i check if a player is leaving or dying
because obv they are the same lol
logical
i forgot about that
grand flower
There's an method you can patch somewhere
For when a player is being destroyed due to disconnect
iirc
celest thorn
tbh how can i check that
grand flower
I don't remember where and I don't wanna open Bright's source to find out
celest thorn
far easier with the damagehandler
grand flower
dunno if there's a special damage type for leaving
restive turret
I remember seeing it
grand flower
I think we patch it instead to handle a player disconnecting before their character is killed
when we want to replace the player with another
or well, Bright's patched it
I quit 
restive turret
Universal and its Unknown
celest thorn
where is it?
restive turret
What?
celest thorn
like
where is the line that kills the player
so i can then do an if check on the PlayerDyingEventArgs
thin shuttle
where is the line that kills the player
what do you mean ?
like the one set your role to spectator ?
celest thorn
PlayerDyingEventArgs triggers when the player is on Destroyed
so like when they leave
thin shuttle
oh
i have a fix on my plugin on it
to make it not Unknown reason
CustomNetworkManager.OnServerDisconnect
celest thorn
if(ev.DamageHandler.DeathScreenText == DeathTranslations.Unknown.DeathscreenTranslation)
return;
ig this works
lol
thin shuttle
that the only two Unknown
celest thorn
like its a pro it doesn't log that
else i would have tryharders crying in my dms
that they got killed by that command
thin shuttle
i never got tired of SL
celest thorn
the person i talk everyday is a tryharder and i love her anyways
grand flower
I just don't like how SL's more of a shooter than a horror game atm
amongst other things
grand flower
it's an arcade shooter
restive turret
grand flower
my main gripe is with the modding tbf
i'd say the arcade shooter aspect would be 2nd
celest thorn
tbh
for me
the crazier i can do shit
the more fun i have
its fun to find creative solutions to problems
restive turret
I also wanna do pure shooter but it is realistic and not like r6s, cs or tarkov
restive turret
I would have to go in shooting ground for it
restive turret
Which my body weight vs guns I would be a complete nooby of to handle it
celest thorn
Btw nikita knows knowledge
Like tbh they are probably the most fun and trolling company iβve ever seen
restive turret
Only knows how to mess with RE's
celest thorn
Like pure official account
restive turret
is realistic
It WAS TRY to be one
restive turret
After y3 it was bad
celest thorn
after hibana and echo tbh
restive turret
We went on rant how many stuff can't really be done
restive turret
It was like 15/50 operator could be done in irl
celest thorn
better than 0
upper vapor
C'est Bob l'Γ©ponge carrΓ©e
what the fuck
upper vapor
begone NW /s
hello there
grand flower
rip
I'll trade places with you if you'd like
Dealing with Unreal and re-implementing Steam integration from scratch heh
upper vapor
grand flower
It's been fun though
grand flower
I like being challenged
And once it's done it'll probably be one of the best open source Steam plugins for UE out there
So I'm excited
Besides I've got my Luau plugin finished, same with my new virtual filesystem plugin finished, so my modding framework is ready to go
restive turret
even blueprint support?
grand flower
No, because that's ass
I can add it later but it'll be on top of the C++ stuff
I want a plugin that's great for C++ compared to all the ones out there that are BP-first with a shitty C++ API
grand flower
Besides I've got my Luau plugin finished, same with my new virtual filesystem pl...
Just need full control on the Steam front since I'm gonna have downloading of Luau scripts from game servers to clients on join
Steam Sockets & SDR will be perfect for that
restive turret
I want a plugin that's great for C++ compared to all the ones out there that are...
ye i seen many pb stuff
tbh mostly i seen people write shitty blueprint when can be written better c++
restive turret
especially in this echonomy where it is really good
grand flower
Outside of UI stuff I really don't use them, or as final derived classes just to set class settings
covert flame
Ugggghhh that's how I did it, I just didn't test it becuase I wasn't sure
slate flume
Ugggghhh that's how I did it, I just didn't test it becuase I wasn't sure
I get the feeling haha
This reminds me you know a while back I made an SCP Friendly Fire thing and in doing so I accidentally made it so that every time peanut blinked, he killed himself π
covert flame
Nahhh that's some A tier coding right there
thin shuttle
This reminds me you know a while back I made an SCP Friendly Fire thing and in d...
lol
restive turret
thats fire
covert flame
So because I really dont want to open the game and shit, how much damange the particle and jailbird do? does anyone know off the top of their heads?
hearty shard
Nahhh that's some A tier coding right there
AI coding :
covert flame
Exactly, AI code gives like A tier, no, S tier code
upper vapor
Exactly, AI code gives like A tier, no, S tier code
S tier when it comes to fumbling
covert flame
Amen
covert flame
So because I really dont want to open the game and shit, how much damange the pa...
Anyone^, please?
No? Uggh
I guess I'll just ask ChatGPT
covert flame
SL wiki is a godsend
So it said particle disrupter is instant no matter what and jailbird is 100 per hit
Sweet as
slate flume
So it said particle disrupter is instant no matter what and jailbird is 100 per ...
What?
covert flame
That's what chatgpt said
slate flume
Bruh
covert flame
Imma trust AI on this one
covert flame
All good, just do let it happen again
slate flume
restive turret
Scream
celest thorn
AHHHH
warped prairie
Goog
warped prairie
Hoh
celest thorn
https://i.e-z.host/π/64p35lq8.png
Btw i just wanna ask guys is this how sl handles gun shootin?
celest thorn
https://tenor.com/view/scav-prototype-expie-greed-gif-5542621130335497075
what game is this?
sharp hedge
it was like casualties unknown or something
unique crane
Casaulties: Unknown yea
sharp hedge
yea
celest thorn
cool i will try
sharp hedge
its pretty cool
unique crane
You will die a lot
celest thorn
https://i.e-z.host/π/64p35lq8.png
Btw i just wanna ask guys is this how sl ha...
im kinda doing something stupid for this is this like the same code or atleast because it works like how the client sends it but i just wanna make sure
unique crane
btw
celest thorn
lol
restive turret
https://i.e-z.host/π/64p35lq8.png
Btw i just wanna ask guys is this how sl ha...
It's.... Complicated
celest thorn
It's.... Complicated
like im trying emulating from the server like a player shot
so this should be how the server gets it
on the action module
slender lynx
It's.... Complicated
we know its complicated but any explanation is helpful
restive turret
Well you have the server code, what you actually interested in it?
Checking the ray? Sending out shots?
upper vapor
it's all raycasts
restive turret
Ye basically
restive turret
Raycast, send some effect or something
celest thorn
this is the same code that technically runs whenthe fucking client sends a shot right?
ok lets put simple
celest thorn
is ServerProcessCmd the one that the client calls for when a fucking shot is trying to be done
celest thorn
ok amazing so its same logic as the client if i call this correct
celest thorn
And also ServerProcessRpc too
I mean this one is used for shots that one i don't remember tbh
there's just a cmd
not an rpc
lol
unique crane
@serene vine Hang them
upper vapor
@serene vine anotha one
grand flower
and another
icy knoll
@serene vine
grand flower
Dang
sacred sierra
bot waves
serene vine
damn it's getting crazy
wheat flower
grand flower
what
serene vine
WOW
grand flower
SL players must be worse than the average person scam wise
serene vine
just keep @ ing me
serene vine
SL players must be worse than the average person scam wise
nah
they sometimes just straight up hack your acc
grand flower
I meant it as falling for scams or phising links and losing their accounts
sacred sierra
do they like not enabling 2fa
grand flower
Won't matter if their token is stolen
hearty shard
yea 2FA does nothing when your token is gone
sacred sierra
by malware?
hearty shard
just prevents ppl logging in with only knowing ur password
grand flower
generally yea
sacred sierra
skill issue then
grand flower
yup
restive turret
Another
serene vine
copy
sacred sierra
prev waves seemed smaller
restive turret
Btw @grand flower
upper vapor
This world is so cookee
restive turret
I think my theory is just correct <:LULLLLLL:758840173986709525>
I seen on other games too
grand flower
Yeah another server just had one so it's just a wave
Probs just because this server has a lot of peeps
restive turret
Ye
grand flower
Btw <@1269801279253909565>
But yeah I'll set that up on mine, on top of some other stuff to make patching easier
restive turret
But yeah I'll set that up on mine, on top of some other stuff to make patching e...
restive turret
People aint reading docs enough
grand flower
It helps a little but it's not a fixall
We do it on VEIN and we've still got patching issues heh, so we'll have to improve it later
and Reflection isn't at a stage where I'm building and uploading it to Steam yet anyway
Although I'm almost ready for a quick Steam auth & connectivity test with some other peeps
restive turret
Ye i just share it cus i find it useful
Me omw to tag every unreal devs with this info who put their 90gb pak file on steam
grand flower
hah
tulip kiln
Me omw to tag every unreal devs with this info who put their 90gb pak file on st...
mfw a 2gb update causes a 90GB integrity check on my HDD
grand flower
Using an HDD for games in 2026 is... a choice
I don't think I'll have so much content anyway.
tulip kiln
I don't, but my poorer friend does
grand flower
rip
restive turret
Well if you are in singleplayer and you dont care about loading screen
serene vine
imma go for a toilet run, and they better not show up
serene vine
grand flower
I can't wait to be done with the Steam stuff, at least what little I need for connectivity to work
upper vapor
imma go for a toilet run, and they better not show up
Nyoooom
grand flower
Then I can actually start working on the game since Steam & the modding framework will have been done
restive turret
serene vine
no incident, we are so back guys
restive turret
@serene vine banish
serene vine
Gon
warped prairie
@serene vine part 2?
unique crane
are you fucking kidding me now
serene vine
Gon
warped prairie
ty 
static osprey
keep your tarkov references OUTTA here emeraldy
stone prawn
how is ts related to plugin development π
celest thorn
how is ts related to plugin development π
idk
stone prawn
chat may i please get a script to add 682 into game
i do not want to do the work myself
thank
junior elm
chat may i please get a script to add 682 into game
Ask SCP-079 (ChatGPT)
static meteor
chat may i please get a script to add 682 into game
You'll get mildly oversized 939
stone prawn
true
celest thorn
chat may i please get a script to add 682 into game
code it yourself
slender lynx
how is ts related to plugin development π
it was the plugin that banned the user
celest thorn
skill issue
slender lynx
its totally related
brave grove
it was the plugin that banned the user
intelligence
stone prawn
it was the plugin that banned the user
that has absolutely nothing to do with this channel
slender lynx
@celest thorn no more larping
celest thorn
https://tenor.com/view/patrick-drool-spongebob-dumb-gif-4187809058326875948
btw coding is easy
just nw codes makes me drink
stone prawn
btw coding is easy
who said it wasn't
restive turret
Dont fool yourself, every code make you drink
stone prawn
true
celest thorn
Dont fool yourself, every code make you drink
true
grand flower
NW's more than usual
stone prawn
jarvis code is a fucking mess
grand flower
The halloween update was something
true arch
hi cyn
true arch
no
grand flower
Huh
true arch
how's it going since you left brights
grand flower
Freedom
true arch
thats what i was thinking
grand flower
Loved the team, but the community was a massive pain in the ass
true arch
(gobgob)
grand flower
One of many that would make me drink
Already forgotten about, took me a few seconds to remember lol
true arch
π
grand flower
But yeah, more time for my project, and I've just been happier mentally since
true arch
what r u working on?
grand flower
My own game, mostly as a fun hobby project, but it's shaping up to be a serious project long term I think
true arch
My own game, mostly as a fun hobby project, but it's shaping up to be a serious ...
oh thats cool
whats it about
grand flower
SCP game but sandbox with server & client modding
grand flower
Not anytime soon, got a few people interested with keys to test when I'm done with some boilerplate stuff, but I might have a prototype that can be "tested" in a month or two
restive turret
I also have my own game idea but I must do other stuff before I too late for them
true arch
I also have my own game idea but I must do other stuff before I too late for the...
is it possible to make dummies hold down E to pickup an item
true arch
Not anytime soon, got a few people interested with keys to test when I'm done wi...
mm well lmk when you do release
grand flower
If I remember sure
restive turret
is it possible to make dummies hold down E to pickup an item
Not hold E but you can simulate the pickup
grand flower
I've got the modding framework ready so I might open up testing a little more in a month or so
true arch
Not hold E but you can simulate the pickup
k thx
true arch
If I remember sure
don't forget me yo
restive turret
Pickup.ValidateStart() check that
Interface
Check where it using it I dont exactly remember those
true arch
i'll take a gander soon
restive turret
What
warped prairie
might be like an extremly dumb question here. but
private void Scp173Events_Snapping(Scp173SnappingEventArgs ev)
{
ev.IsAllowed = false;
return;
}
Does this just like not work? somone told me that this is a lot easier than like touching the 173snapability module (which ive also had trouble getting to work) but when i tested it just like does nothing
grand flower
Is it running
lapis steppe
Does the game not use steam's api for the servers? I can't find it in the server browser
lapis steppe
awww
i wonder if that's why the "friends" section of the server browser is so buggy
grand flower
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
lapis steppe
i'm curious actually, do plugins have enough authority to toggle core game settings? (eg. enable/disable vr)
grand flower
There's VR for SL?
lapis steppe
no that's why I'm asking
grand flower
They're only on the server though
lapis steppe
Unity 6 should have VR rendering as an option by default
grand flower
yeaaaah
grand flower
nop
If you disabled the anticheat and played on your own local servers you could maaaaybe patch it in for yourself
But unless you're just gonna play on your own, there's no other way
lapis steppe
frfr
i remember a few years ago you'd get killed by the anticheat when jumping off that room with the stairs in entrance
not the new gate a
i assumed that was just a serverside thing
grand flower
I remember the anticheat blocking my spotify update by opening a handle to one of its files
lapis steppe
lol?
grand flower
yeah
apparently it was fixed, but it still raises the question of "why the fuck do they think that's fine lol"
lapis steppe
wait but if it can't touch the client
how can plugins add like custom ui elements and stuff
like spectator counters, etc
grand flower
Server plugins call functions that network it to clients
Only way to do UI atm
Although apparently NW is working on a better way
lapis steppe
ah
warped prairie
Is it running
completly forgot to repsond, i fixed it sorry
i was being big dummy
grand flower
np
cyan crown
I fucking hate unity engine i saw a forum recently about a request of adding cylinder character colliders, i think you can do that by using rigidbody but at this moment it should just be added by default.
I do remember SL using character controller which is a capscule collider hopefully if they plan to upgrade the collision which probably will never happen since current SL movement feels good as it is.
But if they do i think it will elimnate pixel jumps or maybe even add more
upper vapor
how can plugins add like custom ui elements and stuff
hints
it's a lot of textmeshpro magic
upper vapor
I fucking hate unity engine i saw a forum recently about a request of adding cyl...
cylinder collision is not very ideal
sharp edges are not good for movement
upper vapor
apparently it was fixed, but it still raises the question of "why the fuck do th...
me when i couldn't build my desktop .net app after the 2nd compilation bc the AC locked the outputted file
cyan crown
I still can't figure out what causes the snap to edges in SL movement
My guess is that its related to character controller radius being to high
upper vapor
wdym
grand flower
me when i couldn't build my desktop .net app after the 2nd compilation bc the AC...
insanity
cyan crown
wdym
if you jump on any object for example LCZ curve you can move all the way across the curve it only allows you to get detached if you press jump
Its weird i cant point out what exactly causing that
upper vapor
right
cyan crown
Its probably some setting in character controller
I think i found it
Its "Skin Width"
Two colliders can penetrate each other as deep as their Skin Width. Larger Skin Widths reduce jitter. Low Skin Width can cause the character to get stuck. A good setting is to make this value 10% of the Radius.
So SL Character controller skin width are in between 0 and 0.2 its probably some weird value changed by mistake not intentional
upper vapor
0.08
cyan crown
Thanks
sacred sierra
i find it more like a feature and not bug
upper vapor
these are the exact settings
m_Height: 2
m_Radius: 0.5
m_SlopeLimit: 45
m_StepOffset: 0.3
m_SkinWidth: 0.08
m_MinMoveDistance: 0.001
yeah it's to prevent ppl from slipping off
cyan crown
How did i not think of it 5 months ago when i was working on SL legacy lol
upper vapor
How did i not think of it 5 months ago when i was working on SL legacy lol
you forgor
also the unity server tag is crazy
sacred sierra
unty
grand flower
unty
cyan crown
you forgor
Real sometimes i just forget about searching for a certain thing until its pointed out to me
unty
I think now im able to finally recreate SL controller 1 to 1πΌ π
Only took me 5 months to remember
grand flower
why tho
sacred sierra
any way i could measure my server's softrestart time?
sweet flax
any way i could measure my server's softrestart time?
Save in a file timestamp when plugin is disabled and check change between enabled and disabled
That's the best way i can think of
restive turret
Y'know soft restart (sr) is basically restarting SL?
sacred sierra
yea i just do sr every round restart
restive turret
But you can create a file , write current date when server run the shutdown event(?) and you read the file when enabled
covert flame
Hey, so I've got a question from a friend and also me, is it possible to remove light culling in a specific area, for example, when moving out of the surface map, lighting gets removed, is there a way to make it not remove, or a way to add light, like any way at all?
upper vapor
Hey, so I've got a question from a friend and also me, is it possible to remove ...
you'd have to use directional lights
upper vapor
any way i could measure my server's softrestart time?
fork LocalAdmin, and measure the time between the game process exiting and the first heartbeat 
covert flame
you'd have to use directional lights
Interesting
Could you tell/show me or point me in the right direction
celest thorn
Is there a way that before the round start you can predict which class a person is gonna spawn
restive turret
patch some role setters
celest thorn
patch some role setters
The problem they run when the round starts
restive turret
well then no
upper vapor
Could you tell/show me or point me in the right direction
don't point, but use 4 directions
tulip kiln
Is there a way that before the round start you can predict which class a person ...
RoleAssigner fetches players randomly on RoundStart, so their best bet is probably to generate a list of roles, assign players in random order when they join and then patch RoleAssigner to use that list instead.
covert flame
don't point, but use 4 directions
hilarious
unique crane
Is there a way that before the round start you can predict which class a person ...
Nop
this is random on the round start
celest thorn
Yea i know
unique crane
Theoretically
celest thorn
Idk maybe i was schizo and forgot something you guys added in newer version
unique crane
If you get the same Random object
upper vapor
you can determine it beforehand
upper vapor
and spawn ppl yourself
unique crane
you can determine it beforehand
But you gotta handle if someone joins/leaves
celest thorn
Yea but too much work
upper vapor
But you gotta handle if someone joins/leaves
trueing
unique crane
Yea but too much work
"I rewrote whole SL server"
celest thorn
For just something so useless
upper vapor
so yeah it's not a really good idea
unique crane
"yeah this thing is too much work"
upper vapor
"yeah this thing is too much work"
mental work
unique crane
thin shuttle
Btw how you guys doing
fine
celest thorn
Where tf you come from
thin shuttle
but i honnestly think what you said it's completelly possible if you rewrite some system
to determine it earlier
unique crane
Where tf you come from
He is watching from shadows
upper vapor
Where tf you come from
going to Lidl
celest thorn
You have your entire body bleeding and foot destroyed
unique crane
going to Lidl
LΓDL BY BELOVED
unique crane
I called Lethal Company Lidl Company
celest thorn
I called Lethal Company Lidl Company
AuhHahahahaha
upper vapor
I called Lethal Company Lidl Company
XDD
celest thorn
i also rate aldi
I donβt have aldi here
But we have lidl which ngl probably best place
royal mica
going to Lidl
LIDL my beloved
restive turret
rip my money π
slate flume
You guys remember #1376956491017486356 message ?
I've been having some occasional problems lately with an infinite round start but I found no exceptions in the Local Admin Logs
I'm guessing something in my plugin broke something, and I was curious to take a look at the repo to implement some fixes, but the entire thing was deleted
Anyone know what the plugin did to fix the infinite delayed connections issues or am I cooked?
celest thorn
You guys remember https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/13769564910174...
Idk
Skill issue
Check the patch
And see what they do
Maybe one update did something
slate flume
Really riveting input dude that was super helpful
royal mica
You guys remember https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/13769564910174...
Pretty sure it listened to connections, see if it is delayed and did a force restart
unique crane
gonna eat a massive and tasty burger
There is extremely good street burger foob place near me
it cost a bit too much
but damm is it big and tasty
slate flume
Pretty sure it listened to connections, see if it is delayed and did a force res...
This helps thank you
celest thorn
There is extremely good street burger foob place near me
Idk i live in the woods
unique crane
I rarely eat dinner after it
unique crane
Idk i live in the woods
Be glad
celest thorn
So the nearest thing to me is a church
royal mica
Honestly, I would rather look into why it is delayed
upper vapor
Check the patch
[DELETED] 
slate flume
Honestly, I would rather look into why it is delayed
I've got no clue
celest thorn
[DELETED] <:Hmm:803387883720933396>
I meant his
slate flume
I've got no clue
LocalAdminLogs didn't show squat
celest thorn
π§
unique crane
Nah bro calling hospitals and stuff
Yeah well your kinda cooked if something happens
slate flume
I meant his
I didn't patch anything?
royal mica
I've got no clue
patch StaticUnityFunctions class and check if they throw an exception. If something dies there, it is silent
upper vapor
patch StaticUnityFunctions class and check if they throw an exception. If someth...
it would show up in LA logs
royal mica
it would show up in LA logs
well certainly mine didn't
celest thorn
Yeah well your kinda cooked if something happens
I swear i need to go to the hospital for some stuff and calling them was infernal
upper vapor
well certainly mine didn't
celest thorn
30 minutes and 30 minutes of talk
restive turret
but damm is it big and tasty
It is literally just like near my bus stop where i usually hop on to go to uni
royal mica
<:d_rock:1403012898715861014>
when fucked up imagic is happening, fucked up shit also happens
celest thorn
They made wrong reservation and i waited 30 more minutes the next day
restive turret
so it is really like ~3-4min
unique crane
It is literally just like near my bus stop where i usually hop on to go to uni
well send pic of the burger
celest thorn
I SAW THAT MENU
celest thorn
But then my friend and use decided to go to the burger king
Which had a menu item iβve never seen SOOOO GOOOD
It was a sauce and mozzarella stick really weird
restive turret
tbh there is many of this but ye
celest thorn
tbh there is many of this but ye
I remember something funny
They went to a random italian place and found out the chef was the owner
And was from Naples
restive turret
anyway i gotta be ready and need to go to ger my burgur
celest thorn
Like bro was chilling on a random place of hungary
Next to a castle
Like gg for him
upper vapor
anyway i gotta be ready and need to go to ger my burgur
grrrrr
celest thorn
Oh
celest thorn
Youβre brain is fried
upper vapor
celest thorn
celest thorn
fired or fried
I said fried lol
restive turret
fried brain
slate flume
What's an effective way to check if connections are being delayed
I could look into it but one of you guys might know off-rip
restive turret
CustomLiteNetLib4MirrorTransport.Challenges
Value.Added its a ticks
slate flume
CustomLiteNetLib4MirrorTransport.Challenges
Value.Added its a ticks
Could you elaborate on this a bit? If not I can check it out but I'm a little confused (I don't know a lot about how the SL networking system works)
Cause when connections get delayed I see this
No challenge
Wait nvm I figured it out
Thanks for the help
Type shit
unique crane
bro gave you 5 fries
upper vapor
<@282125275930820608>
why do you have aszalt szilva in the burger
celest thorn
<@282125275930820608>
bro that shit is small
soft turtle
Where is Scp244DamageHandler
restive turret
bro that shit is small
Yet it made me full
restive turret
why do you have aszalt szilva in the burger
All homemade burger meat looks like that
upper vapor
Where is Scp244DamageHandler
UniversalDamageHandler hypothermia
upper vapor
All homemade burger meat looks like that
restive turret
Or less brown
soft turtle
UniversalDamageHandler hypothermia
How do I know it's SCP-244?
universalDamage.Translation?
upper vapor
translation id yea
soft turtle
translation id yea
What is SCP-244's ID?
upper vapor
check DeathTranslations
soft turtle
check DeathTranslations
Like this?
upper vapor
ye
hearty shard
SLIME
restive turret
Hi
hearty shard
r u evil
upper vapor
Cant move, can't think
can't break labapu
upper vapor
*apu* ||daddy||
royal mica
how can i start the round and end it
/SERVER_EVENT ROUND_START iirc
upper vapor
`/SERVER_EVENT ROUND_START` iirc
blud lives in 2018
royal mica
blud lives in 2018
that is what RA uses shrug
upper vapor
that is what RA uses shrug
i don't believe it
static meteor
`/SERVER_EVENT ROUND_START` iirc
Me when /rs
royal mica
/eval Server.RoundStart()
upper vapor
`/eval Server.RoundStart()`
royal mica
will Ra 5.0 be in Electron?
thin shuttle
There is an RA rework planned ?
upper vapor
twitter moment
royal mica
There is an RA rework planned ?
yes into Electron
you can go to twitter.com while ingame
thin shuttle
Uhm ?
upper vapor
royal mica
what could go wrong
upper vapor
what in the world could go south
royal mica
@flat nebula is this true?
upper vapor
π
flat nebula
Yes
flat nebula
Yes
upper vapor
"key games"
celest thorn
"i think therefore i am"
this could be interpreted in 2 ways
in media
or
you decide the better one
idk both are cool tbh
celest thorn
How big is the player like in size because on the assets decompiled it says 1,1,1 but the player isn't like 1, 1.2, 1?
hollow remnant
how to get ItemType from PlayerDyingEventArgs.DamageHandler?
thin shuttle
How big is the player like in size because on the assets decompiled it says 1,1,...
default it's always 1 1 1
1 is like one Unit
not one meter
hollow remnant
how to get `ItemType` from `PlayerDyingEventArgs.DamageHandler`?
casting to FirearmDamageHandler?
hearty shard
casting to `FirearmDamageHandler`?
i dont think that works for jailbird
carmine prawn
casting to `FirearmDamageHandler`?
if this damage is from Firearm, then yes