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#plugins-dev-chat
south socket
Uhhh... Worshiping capybaras should help.
restive turret
I worship cats
slate flume
Am I crazy
Why was all my Cassie shit broken in the experimental branch but not in the new update
I'm getting no errors
My leading theory is that my server didn't update properly
Ts gonna make me crash out
I know it's not up to date
Oh I need to use the experimental branch for the dedicated server still don't I
mild ice
The correct server build should be on the live branch
slate flume
The correct server build should be on the live branch
Well tell that to SteamCMD
It's telling me it's already up to date for the early-server-build and the non-beta build
mild ice
If it doesn't want to update I'd try changing the branch name from public to none or vice versa
Usually gets it working for me
slate flume
Lemme try that
slate flume
If it doesn't want to update I'd try changing the branch name from `public` to `...
You're actually my hero
Public beta branch worked
Time to fix all the shit that broke 💪🏼
mild ice
Public beta branch worked
Happy to help :)
glad pagoda
Lemme try that
try app_info_update in the future too
since thats supposed to force steam to look for new updates
slate flume
try `app_info_update` in the future too
Doesn't app_info_update just essentially refresh steamcmd?
Every time I update my server I use a new instance so it doesn't really matter
glad pagoda
no idea how steamcmd works exactly but it does work in normal steam client
slate flume
no idea how steamcmd works exactly but it does work in normal steam client
It doesn't trigger an update it just refreshes the info
To actually update you still need to run app_update
I still would've ran into the same issue if I used app_info_update because I was looking at the wrong branch
glad pagoda
To actually update you still need to run app_update
yes but what I've meant is that it might help if update says its already up to date
slate flume
yes but what I've meant is that it might help if update says its already up to d...
Oh you mean for if I'm on the correct branch
Gotcha
I thought you were saying to use it for updates lol
I shouldn't have to worry about it in the future cause when you launch a new SteamCMD instance it does that automatically
It has to establish a new connection each time you run
glad pagoda
It has to establish a new connection each time you run
well it could cache stuff
like apt on debian/ubuntu does
where you have to update before upgrade
slate flume
where you have to update before upgrade
It does that automatically too
I don't leave steamcmd open
slate flume
not app updates?
You said "update before upgrade"
That's that first step
After that when you run app_update it runs a check for updates anyways
The local cache is updated during the login step
Which happens whenever I run an update check
glad pagoda
No idea, I assume there must be some cases where it doesn't refresh since they added the command
slate flume
No idea, I assume there must be some cases where it doesn't refresh since they a...
Yeah if you have SteamCMD launched and don't refresh the login, then it never automatically updates the cache
Logins are more intensive than updating the cache so people may keep it up and update rather than logging in every time if they're working with some app or something
Well
It's time to find out if SCP friendly fire terminations are still broken
slate flume
It's time to find out if SCP friendly fire terminations are still broken
They are!
Epic 
At least it doesn't break the client anymore
glad pagoda
did you report it to QA?
slate flume
did you report it to QA?
I forget if I logged it for LabAPI issues
I'm just gonna fix it myself
It's what I did last time
upper vapor
That would probably be MethodNotFoundException
Yeah sooo
We love base-game namespaces having the same name as the labapi wrapper class
upper vapor
My leading theory is that my server didn't update properly
using Cassie = LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Cassie;
It's actually cooked
slate flume
It's actually cooked
upper vapor
Programmers try not to break labapi challenge (impossible)
upper pike
Plugin development going well
static meteor
Since when was https://plugins.scpslgame.com/ festive?
upper vapor
Since when was https://plugins.scpslgame.com/ festive?
that was added at least a week ago
upper vapor
<:Fear:1172595228193067138>
so what i wrote doesn't work xd
you gotta type LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Cassie every time
south socket
you gotta type LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Cassie every time
I mean LabApi CASSIE is broken rn anyways (Push the new CASSIE GRRRR)
upper vapor
what new cassie
south socket
south socket
uh the Wrapper is using RespawnEffectsController but yeah its gone
upper vapor
uh the Wrapper is using RespawnEffectsController but yeah its gone
huh
yeah we don't have the new version on nuget yet
but the dll should be updated in the server's files
south socket
Oh yeah I only looked on github so yeah that makes sense
upper vapor
Oh yeah I only looked on github so yeah that makes sense
ye, labapi releaase cyle is kinda cooked
next mirage
so how can i use cassie in plugin,I still dont get it
icy knoll
you can use the base game
upper vapor
so how can i use cassie in plugin,I still dont get it
LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Cassie
carmine prawn
LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Cassie
can I omit LabApi.Features.Wrappers. in ide? 
it appears there is a namespace conflict
upper vapor
Because
It happened like that
And no you can't omit it, not even using aliases
I mean
upper vapor
can I omit `LabApi.Features.Wrappers.` in ide? <:SCP096WHY:783662461634215996>
You can do Casie = LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Cassie
icy knoll
You can do `Casie = LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Cassie`
LabCassie
upper vapor
True
slate flume
you gotta type LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Cassie every time
Yep! The Cassie namespace will always take precedence
slate flume
Plugin development going well
On some real shit
boreal snow
You can do `Casie = LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Cassie`
It's in Assembly-CSharp, so I just did using Cassie;
upper vapor
It's in Assembly-CSharp, so I just did `using Cassie;`
That's not the labapu wrapper
upper vapor
Yeah it's more versatile but people who used the Cassie wrapper now have their source code broken
slate flume
Okay so is it possible to make your own SubtitleParts?
Like if I want to make a custom ScpTerminationMessage to get the same prioritization stuff, how do I convert whatever custom subtitles I have to SubtitleParts
true cedar
what have the damn liberals done to cassie
upper vapor
Like if I want to make a custom ScpTerminationMessage to get the same prioritiza...
Custom subtitle part type
Not sure if you can mix-and-match translated and custom elements
I'll check in a sec
slate flume
Custom subtitle part type
My ongoing issue is that SubtitleParts are not in some SCP damage handlers
upper vapor
huh
slate flume
It's exactly as it sounds
If one SCP kills another, the termination message will not play
upper vapor
which ones
slate flume
I'm not sure
upper vapor
ummmm
slate flume
Most of them in my experience
That's why the SubtitleParts ends up as null in the first place
My worry was that null checking was going to be a band-aid fix, instead of the underlying problem being solved
And I was correct
So here we are
And I'm patching it again
To run the same BS
upper vapor
i'm looking at the scp damage handlers but none of them have null subtitle parts
oh wait
nevermind
slate flume
😁
upper vapor
new CassieAnnouncement() != CassieAnnouncement.Default
soooooo
yeah
do you know what you need to patch?
slate flume
do you know what you need to patch?
I ended up just rolling with LabAPI events
Decently simple fix actually
But I want the new message I make to register as an SCP Termination Message instead of a regular message
public class CassieScpFriendlyFire : CustomEventsHandler
{
public override void OnPlayerDeath(PlayerDeathEventArgs ev)
{
if (ev.OldRole.GetTeam() != Team.SCPs || ev.Attacker is not { Team: Team.SCPs } attacker)
return;
string scp1 = Resources.GetFirstNumberGroup(ev.OldRole.ToString());
string scp2 = Resources.GetFirstNumberGroup(attacker.Role.ToString());
// TO-DO, make this an SCP termination message instead
LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Cassie.Message($"SCP {Resources.SpaceNumbers(scp1)} terminated by SCP {Resources.SpaceNumbers(scp2)}", $"SCP-{scp1} terminated by SCP-{scp2}.");
}
public override void OnServerCassieQueuingScpTermination(CassieQueuingScpTerminationEventArgs ev)
{
if (ev.DamageHandler is AttackerDamageHandler dh && dh.Attacker.Role.GetTeam() == Team.SCPs)
ev.IsAllowed = false;
}
}
yeah you can create a CassieScpTerminationAnnouncement and queue it
oh btw
slate flume
yeah you can create a CassieScpTerminationAnnouncement and queue it
Yeah but then I need the SubtitleParts
upper vapor
if the announcement is queued and another scp is terminated with the same subtitles, the labapi event won't becalled
slate flume
Okay so is it possible to make your own SubtitleParts?
Which brings me back to
slate flume
just create them
I don't know how 😭 that's why I asked lmao
true cedar
but like is this cassie update a new thing that i wasnt aware of at all
slate flume
I don't know the structure, or how they're parsed, or how to make them
slate flume
if the announcement is queued and another scp is terminated with the same subtit...
Doesn't really matter since I ev.IsAllowed = false; it
upper vapor
I don't know how 😭 that's why I asked lmao
[new SubtitlePart(custom type, ["my string"])]
upper vapor
Doesn't really matter since I `ev.IsAllowed = false;` it
right
upper vapor
but like is this cassie update a new thing that i wasnt aware of at all
have you read the changelog
upper vapor
if the answer is no, then the answer is yes
upper vapor
Is that planned to be changed in the future?
hopefully we'll get a fix implemented soon-ish
idk how the release cycle works though
might not be out before christmas
true cedar
have you read the changelog
theres a changelog?
upper vapor
theres a changelog?
serverhost-announcements 
spare zodiac
upper vapor
slate flume
[new SubtitlePart(custom type, ["my string"])]
So what's the deal with SubtitleType? Are SubtitleParts broken up by line or by word? Should my entire announcement be in one SubtitlePart?
upper vapor
theres a changelog?
oh and
upper vapor
So what's the deal with `SubtitleType`? Are SubtitleParts broken up by line or b...
by <split>s
upper vapor
or uhh
true cedar
i didnt even realize there was like
upper vapor
hold on
true cedar
an update
spare zodiac
i didnt even realize there was like
it's a small one zo ye
boreal snow
Doesn't really matter since I `ev.IsAllowed = false;` it
I use args for event arguments
spare zodiac
when Ruei for Cassie subtitles? 
boreal snow
I use args for event arguments
makes it easier for me to read
upper vapor
So what's the deal with `SubtitleType`? Are SubtitleParts broken up by line or b...
so they're just joined
slate flume
I use args for event arguments
Yeah I've seen people do that
upper vapor
or uhh
upper vapor
yeah so SubtitleController is stripped for some reason
slate flume
I just want to make SCP termination messages work :'(
upper vapor
idk how stripping works ngl
there's no preprocessor so probably some unity magic
i'm looking though
okay so
seems like you can't
slate flume
Nice!
upper vapor
it's not possible to combine translated and custom parts
it just quits if it finds a non-translatable subtitle type 
slate flume
So I have no way of properly fixing SCP termination messages being broken?
slate flume
The SubtitleParts on most SCP DamageHandlers is null
Meaning that if an SCP kills another, it doesn't send a termination message
It used to disconnect the client, but then a null check was added
It doesn't solve the underlying problem, but it prevents the problem from being more severe
upper vapor
maybe patch ScpDamageHandlerBase and Scp049DamageHandler and Scp096DamageHandler
-# yes, the latter two override the former and do the same thing
you can return CassieAnnouncement.Default
in whatever property that is
slate flume
maybe patch ScpDamageHandlerBase and Scp049DamageHandler and Scp096DamageHandler
I'd need to patch 3114 and other SCPs too
upper vapor
that one too
slate flume
you can return CassieAnnouncement.Default
This will bring back proper termination messages?
upper vapor
but other scps use ScpDamageHandler, no?
or the universal one
upper vapor
This will bring back proper termination messages?
yes
termination cause unspecified
oh since when do we have SilentDamageHandler
dam
slate flume
termination cause unspecified
Well the odd thing is IIRC some of the SCPs work
SCP-xxx terminated by SCP-xxx
upper vapor
Well the odd thing is IIRC some of the SCPs work
`SCP-xxx terminated by SCP-xxx`
AttackerDamageHandler probably
unique crane
Thats only for 079 and tesla gates no?
Cant think of any other way for scp to kill another scp
or well if you give the other scp a gun
upper vapor
939 too with FF nvm
slate flume
Cant think of any other way for scp to kill another scp
I patched the code
upper vapor
or well if you give the other scp a gun
slate flume
termination cause unspecified
SCP-xxx terminated by SCP-xxx is more what I was hoping for
upper vapor
well
make it then
SubtitleType.TerminatedBySCP
look at how AttackerDamageHandler creates announcements
slate flume
look at how AttackerDamageHandler creates announcements
Wait what if I just redirect the ScpDamageHandler::CassieDeathAnnouncement to AttackerDamageHandler::CassieDeathAnnouncement?
Is there a point to having it overriden in the first place?
slate flume
just call the method in ADH (works with transpilers only)
No prob with transpilers
I have like 15 of them atp
upper vapor
W
slate flume
I keep having to patch NW code 😭
slate flume
This is one of my favorites
upper vapor
crazy
slate flume
I have longer and more complicated ones
I made one to fix custom keycard collisions
I actually quite like that one
upper vapor
I made one to fix custom keycard collisions
this is devious
the comments
are hurting my eyes
slate flume
It was actually a little easier to do a transpiler than use a helper method because I inserted it in the middle of a bunch of if conditionals
slate flume
the comments
I needed them for my own sanity
I transpile to that part right there
I have parts that go to the normal execution path and parts that do an early return so this was the more optimized way to do it and a bit simpler for me to figure out
mint panther
yo how do i make a custom item
upper vapor
yo how do i make a custom item
mint panther
which one tho
upper vapor
pick one that suits your use case
if you really feel like it, try each one
tiny oar
[2025-12-16 20:43:34.445 +08:00] [STDOUT] Parameter name: index
[2025-12-16 20:43:34.445 +08:00] [STDOUT] at System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T].get_Item (System.Int32 index) [0x00009] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
[2025-12-16 20:43:34.445 +08:00] [STDOUT] at RandomElement.RandomItem[T] (System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] list) [0x0000d] in <97f73857ad8f4e28bfb2a0949c9a9509>:0
[2025-12-16 20:43:34.445 +08:00] [STDOUT] at MapGeneration.Scenarios.DistributorScenario.SelectProcessors () [0x0003a] in <97f73857ad8f4e28bfb2a0949c9a9509>:0
[2025-12-16 20:43:34.445 +08:00] [STDOUT] at MapGeneration.Distributors.ItemDistributor.PlaceSpawnables () [0x00021] in <97f73857ad8f4e28bfb2a0949c9a9509>:0
[2025-12-16 20:43:34.445 +08:00] [STDOUT] at MapGeneration.Distributors.SpawnablesDistributorBase.Update () [0x0004e] in <97f73857ad8f4e28bfb2a0949c9a9509>:0```
After the game update, my server occasionally has an issue where items on the map don’t naturally spawn (SCP locker items spawn normally). After checking the logs, I found thisTotally no idea how to fix it atm
slate flume
Totally no idea how to fix it atm
I believe this is happening because the list runs out of scenario processors
Now the thing is, the only way this can happen is if PlaceSpawnables is firing before the map is generated
At least as far as I can tell from my cursory glance
tiny oar
My plugin doesn’t deal with that at all. I don’t even know what scenario processors are☠️
I thought it might be a game bug at first, but it looks like only my server has this problem, and I couldn’t reproduce it
slate flume
My plugin doesn’t deal with that at all. I don’t even know what scenario process...
If the problem is indeed that PlaceSpawnables is firing before the map is generated, you could try something like
[HarmonyPatch(typeof(SpawnablesDistributorBase), nameof(SpawnablesDistributorBase.Update))]
public class TestFix
{
public static bool Prefix() => SeedSynchronizer.MapGenerated;
}
Thx, will try
static meteor
which one tho
I would recommend https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1357469765421109250
restive turret
```[2025-12-16 20:43:34.445 +08:00] [STDOUT] ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index ...
had the same
seed: 1022878331
[2025-12-15 20:56:13.078 +00:00] [STDOUT] ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection.
[2025-12-15 20:56:13.078 +00:00] [STDOUT] Parameter name: index
[2025-12-15 20:56:13.078 +00:00] [STDOUT] at System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T].get_Item (System.Int32 index) [0x00009] in <069d7b80a3914a08b6825aa362b07f5e>:0
[2025-12-15 20:56:13.078 +00:00] [STDOUT] at RandomElement.RandomItem[T] (System.Collections.Generic.List`1[T] list) [0x0000d] in <97f73857ad8f4e28bfb2a0949c9a9509>:0
[2025-12-15 20:56:13.078 +00:00] [STDOUT] at MapGeneration.Scenarios.DistributorScenario.SelectProcessors () [0x0003a] in <97f73857ad8f4e28bfb2a0949c9a9509>:0
[2025-12-15 20:56:13.078 +00:00] [STDOUT] at MapGeneration.Distributors.ItemDistributor.PlaceSpawnables () [0x00021] in <97f73857ad8f4e28bfb2a0949c9a9509>:0
[2025-12-15 20:56:13.078 +00:00] [STDOUT] at MapGeneration.Distributors.SpawnablesDistributorBase.Update () [0x0004e] in <97f73857ad8f4e28bfb2a0949c9a9509>:0
oh
did you fix that?
tiny oar
Or it's a game issue💀
restive turret
I didnt touch anything with mapgen
restive turret
must be the wind
mint panther
I would recommend https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/13574697654211...
tbh after i looked at them all i think im just gonna make my own system for customitems
slate flume
tbh after i looked at them all i think im just gonna make my own system for cust...
Based as hell
wary gust
tbh after i looked at them all i think im just gonna make my own system for cust...
I have my own too: https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1442106795370872913
restive turret
Tbh I care the little as possible which one you use
Have fun writing one if you doing it
(bc i had fun doing it)
unique crane
tbh after i looked at them all i think im just gonna make my own system for cust...
Another custom items plugin to the pile
Billions must create their "universal" solution 
mint panther
nah its not for the public just for me to suit my specific needs
slate flume
Another custom items plugin to the pile
I made the best one trust
mint panther
its not a "universal" solution
unique crane
I made the best one trust
I guess not if he doesnt like it
slate flume
I guess not if he doesnt like it
It's private 
unique crane
slate flume
It's a dope combination of instance and static
Each member is inherited from the base custom item, and they're all kept in a registry, but they also have static elements I can access
upper vapor
i made the weirdest one trust
-# only i know about it
slate flume
Like the serials
I can access the serials for each custom item as a static member, so I don't need to find the instance in the registry
And they're all separate
restive turret
It made my thing slow down if I tried to make into a every instance
So instead of "manager" one for each item instance it would be slown down like many many times
warped prairie
slej custom items stuff is lowkey the best
ill glaze this guy to the ends of the earth hes a very smart indavidual
slate flume
So instead of "manager" one for each item instance it would be slown down like m...
Why does separating it out cause a slow-down?
I'm just uninformed as to the inner workings of your API
restive turret
Why does separating it out cause a slow-down?
I'm just uninformed as to the inne...
It creates a new object every damn time a new item creates
slate flume
It creates a new object every damn time a new item creates
Oh lmao
restive turret
*a new ci object
slate flume
Weird
restive turret
I through you doing the same thing
restive turret
It worked pre 14
slate flume
Then check it in LabAPI events
restive turret
After 14 it just slowed down significantly
restive turret
I store the item serials in a dictionary
I do the same
slate flume
Essentially all the data I need for my custom items is a dictionary of serials, the associated pickup lightsourcetoy, and then the events that run based off the serials
restive turret
14 century's ago
slate flume
Essentially all the data I need for my custom items is a dictionary of serials, ...
I have this base class that includes a registry for all the custom items
Then a generic class deriving from it
The benefit of the generic class is this
restive turret
I basically added an ILightObject to it
slate flume
The benefit of the generic class is this
I can inherit a custom item from the generic class and be able to use the stored serials in a static context
Incredibly useful for harmony patches
restive turret
I handle light stuff in other places
slate flume
I basically added an ILightObject to it
Makes sense
I didn't really need to go that far
The benefit of making your own API is you can choose how much you need
restive turret
And I didnt liked the idea of serials inside the custom item
I added the events already on it (virtual all) [by hand] and when I need it override it
slate flume
I added the events already on it (virtual all) [by hand] and when I need it over...
Yeah I heard about that
You're insane for that
In a cool way
slate flume
For that stuff I tend to just override the give or spawn functions
restive turret
I have to check how the new MeleeAutoItemSync work and probably make internal pr (mayhaps) so those can be overridable
Also wanted to add Rarity system too but I think was too much
Cus I would end up doing what Factorio did
Common
Uncommon
Rare
Legendary
Custom
..
Byte.MaxValue
upper vapor
I have this base class that includes a registry for all the custom items
base class with a generic implementation that's a base class 🗣️🗣️🗣️
slate flume
Also wanted to add Rarity system too but I think was too much
That's what I did haha
I did it to do random spawning mechanics
Some of the custom items are obviously more powerful than others
slate flume
base class with a generic implementation that's a base class 🗣️🗣️🗣️
It's so beautiful 🥹
restive turret
I did it to do random spawning mechanics
I wanted to do these but didn't but spawning was fucked up inmost of the times i tried so I went with "spawn & do stuff in this method"
ie:
I replaced the micro
slate flume
I wanted to do these but didn't but spawning was fucked up inmost of the times i...
Lol I've been procrastinating a spawning overhaul for my custom items
They just randomly spawn around the facility currently
restive turret
For us its either spawned by other plugin or replaced by scp 500
upper vapor
Lol I've been procrastinating a spawning overhaul for my custom items
i've been procrastinating on everything (except for one project, i absolutely locked in)
slate flume
i've been procrastinating on everything (except for one project, i absolutely lo...
🗣️
Based as hell
I gave up on plugin dev stuff for a few weeks cause I burnt out
upper vapor
moral of the story: don't spend 54h a week working on a unity project
restive turret
I playing GoWR since fridays
slate flume
moral of the story: don't spend 54h a week working on a unity project
Unity sucks the life out of you
restive turret
I playing GoWR since fridays
Been 12h now in
slate flume
I know the patreon proceeds are fueling hubert's crack addiction
slate flume
1 and 2
restive turret
1 isn't really good but rhe 2nd is gold
slate flume
I did 1 GOTY Enhanced, then 2, and got most of the achievements in 2
restive turret
Sadly BL2 fucked up LAN play
upper vapor
Unity sucks the life out of you
at least 10 crashes a day
slate flume
at least 10 crashes a day
Worse than a Fallout game ong
restive turret
We tried it but wasnt working cus fucking gearbox
slate flume
I'm onto the pre-sequel next
restive turret
at least 10 crashes a day
upper vapor
Sadly BL2 fucked up LAN play
how does one manage to do that 😭
slate flume
After that I might have 3? But I wanna play some Tales from the Borderlands
Apparently the first one is peak
And the second is abysmal dogshit
restive turret
how does one manage to do that 😭
With gearbox? Everything can happen
You can probably only play "lan" if you connected to "shift" system which requires internet but in lan play we dont usually have that
slate flume
And the second is abysmal dogshit
upper vapor
You can probably only play "lan" if you connected to "shift" system which requir...
??????????????????????????????????????????
restive turret
We play games without outside internet access
So we can always simulate (and scream to whoever fucked up) the offline lan play
loud condor
why is steamcmd installing an older server?
upper vapor
why is steamcmd installing an older server?
because it sucks
specific the branch public
slate flume
Just put
steamcmd.exe +login anonymous +app_update 996560 -beta public +app_update 996560 -beta public validate +quit
pause
cinema
slate flume
In a .bat file
Then whenever you run it it updates to the latest public beta
I have three bat files for different branches
upper vapor
i might just be stupid actually
i told them to do -branch public and not -beta public
-# well, i didn't tell them specifically, but i said yes it looks good
slate flume
loud condor
i told them to do `-branch public` and not `-beta public`
So I have used:
steamcmd +force_install_dir /home/servers/scpsl/ +login anonymous +app_update 996560 -branch public validate +quit
but it did not update the game version
is this right command?
static meteor
Cassie
loud condor
it'll work 1000000%
thx
upper vapor
np
upper vapor
whats the name of the new cassie class
CassieTtsAnnouncer
teal junco
Thanks
upper vapor
np
static meteor
How to get server host role?
Run !hostrole in your console iirc
With your discord id or you can email S&C
halcyon kite
With your discord id or you can email S&C
thx
worn gull
Hi
public static Team GetTeam(this RoleTypeId role)
{
PlayerRoleBase result;
return !PlayerRoleLoader.TryGetRoleTemplate<PlayerRoleBase>(role, out result) ? Team.OtherAlive : result.Team;
}```
How can I get refHub here
I want to patch it and I need RefHub of the playerwhat
worn gull
what
So I can get the team like this Hurting.Attacker.Role.GetTeam()
And the code is up there
I need to get the refHub
worn gull
```cs
public static Team GetTeam(this RoleTypeId role)
{
PlayerRoleBase ...
Here with patch
icy knoll
you... can't
worn gull
```cs
public static Team GetTeam(this RoleTypeId role)
{
PlayerRoleBase ...
I wanted to avoid 10000 patches in the code (where this is called xd)
slate flume
That's a problem
Well this GetTeam is an extension method that only takes in the RoleTypeId
I could define
var role = RoleTypeId.ClassD and then do role.GetTeam() on it because it's not dependent on a ReferenceHub
There is a GetTeam in the part above it that uses a ReferenceHub, and is probably what you should use for your case
worn gull
But
slate flume
If you're instead looking to fake the team a player is on, you should patch the PlayerRoleBase
slate flume
You can fake team and fake RoleTypeId too
That's what I did to fake some players as dead
What's your use case?
worn gull
What's your use case?
I make a new RoleBase with the faked team
And patched playerrolemanager.currentrole
slate flume
And patched playerrolemanager.currentrole
So yeah you can patch the RoleTypeId too
That fixes your problem
slate flume
Haha ofc
terse bone
I was wondering why my code was throwing exceptions when using drawablelines, but now i see the issue
Here it uses connectionToServer (As a server) instead of connectionToClient, and since it's null on the server, it throws NRE when it tries to send the message
restive turret
Huh
unique crane
I was wondering why my code was throwing exceptions when using drawablelines, bu...
Your right
Report it as base game bug please
terse bone
okay
worn gull
Can somebody please explain to me what is Pooled/IPoolSpawnable in FpcStandardRoleBase?
restive turret
Ye. (My perception)
Pooling is a definition of if not used anymore go in storage instead of destroying it.
Role stuff is pooled (and have basic X amount of stuff available to it) so when spawning and changing roles you dont have to wait X time to unity spawn models and the actual role related stuffs
worn gull
Ye. (My perception)
Pooling is a definition of if not used anymore go in storage...
Hmmmm
worn gull
Ye. (My perception)
Pooling is a definition of if not used anymore go in storage...
Could you please check DM
static meteor
95% of this time was used for development
snow pulsar
Hmm...
boreal snow
Does anyone have a copy of the NWAPI? I'm trying to remake a plugin here on LabApi, but I'm not understanding what this method is trying to find 😭
specifically 13.1.2 if possible
nvrm ill jst try and look through 12.0.0
wait
I can jst compile 13.1.2 on my own
I'm stupid
magic gate
Since when was https://plugins.scpslgame.com/ festive?
Since the first of december
upper vapor
```cs
public static Team GetTeam(this RoleTypeId role)
{
PlayerRoleBase ...
You can't
You're gonna need to patch the call sites
upper vapor
Does anyone have a copy of the NWAPI? I'm trying to remake a plugin here on LabA...
You can look at the nwapi source code on GitHub
upper vapor
I make a new RoleBase with the faked team
How did you do that
slate flume
What similar
I faked a PlayerRoleBase
I wanted the game to think a player was dead when they weren't
Including full access to things like respawn mechanics
Solution? Fake the PlayerRoleBase
Return Team.Dead and RoleTypeId.Spectator
Oh fuck you
Why are some of the SCP DamageHandlers not ScpDamageHandler 😭
Bffr
upper vapor
Because
slate flume
Dictionary lookup?
Dictionary lookup in a harmony patch
upper vapor
Okay
upper vapor
That really is fake
slate flume
It works tho
upper vapor
Does it work for non-spectator roles?
slate flume
No clue
upper vapor
Probably not
slate flume
I only did it like that because some places in the code check if RoleBase is SpectatorRole
Pain in my fucking ass
You can problem get away with just patching Team and RoleTypeId for non-spectator roles
restive turret
Lel prob requires some stuff from specrole
slate flume
Lel prob requires some stuff from specrole
Nope!
You'd think so
But no :)
At least half the cases don't
Some of them might?
But there's a lot of
restive turret
How would i know, i don't know every code from my mind
slate flume
How would i know, i don't know every code from my mind
You're a LabAPI maintainer, you have to know.
If you haven't memorized the entire codebase you're a disgrace to your kind
restive turret
I barely even know what i ate yesterday
upper vapor
If you haven't memorized the entire codebase you're a disgrace to your kind
I know the base-game code base and not the labapi one
slate flume
I know the base-game code base and not the labapi one <:Smart:885618421763567647...
Get working computer boy
slate flume
just call the method in ADH (works with transpilers only)
[HarmonyPatch]
public class CassieScpFriendlyFire : CustomEventsHandler
{
public static IEnumerable<MethodBase> TargetMethods()
{
yield return typeof(ScpDamageHandler).PropertyGetter(nameof(ScpDamageHandler.CassieDeathAnnouncement));
yield return typeof(Scp049DamageHandler).PropertyGetter(nameof(Scp049DamageHandler.CassieDeathAnnouncement));
yield return typeof(Scp096DamageHandler).PropertyGetter(nameof(Scp096DamageHandler.CassieDeathAnnouncement));
yield return typeof(Scp3114DamageHandler).PropertyGetter(nameof(Scp3114DamageHandler.CassieDeathAnnouncement));
}
public static IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> Transpiler(IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> instructions) => [
CodeInstruction.LoadArgument(0),
new CodeInstruction(OpCodes.Call, typeof(AttackerDamageHandler).PropertyGetter(nameof(AttackerDamageHandler.CassieDeathAnnouncement))),
new CodeInstruction(OpCodes.Ret)
];
}
It's fixed now
slate flume
Wait what if I just redirect the `ScpDamageHandler::CassieDeathAnnouncement` to ...
I'm so happy I was right
I did not want to have to deal with the alternative
upper vapor
Get working computer boy
I would if it was my 6th lesson rn (4 more lessons remain)
restive turret
```c#
[HarmonyPatch]
public class CassieScpFriendlyFire : CustomEventsHandler
{
...
CodeInstruction.Ret
upper vapor
me when i just type Return (static using)
imagine a source generator that translates modified C# code into a transpiler
-# oh the edge cases
restive turret
Good luck on source generators I hate them
*writing it
I kinda more better writing a weaver than scr gen
icy knoll
i understand the point of source generators right, but do i want to willingly submit to torture? fuck no
restive turret
I wrote one for generating ini file parser
upper vapor
im putting you in the cryotherapy chamber
cryotherapy
upper vapor
Good luck on source generators I hate them
skill issue
restive turret
Searched 5 forums, asked AI to tell me what the actual fuck is that shit, had 2 headache when looking at it
upper vapor
ngl the source generator code i've written is absolute dogshit
i really wanted to force tokenized generation on myself
instead of using string templates
restive turret
i really wanted to force tokenized generation on myself
You mean what?
Stringbuilder
icy knoll
StringBuilder is the goat
restive turret
Then what
upper vapor
i'm talking typed tokens
restive turret
Bro i never touched that how would i know what u mean
upper vapor
let me show
restive turret
Do i have a magic power to know what u think
(that would be great and not great at the same time)
icy knoll
what the hell is this
upper vapor
this is what the compiler sees when it looks at your code
icy knoll
hmm
upper vapor
upper vapor
Looks soo overcomplicated
yeah because i made it overcomplicated
this turns [Aliases(whatever here)] into public string[] Aliases { get; } = whatever there;
if whatever here is null or empty, it'll be public string[] Aliases => Array.Empty<string>();
upper vapor
@slate flume what do you think of the expressiveness of this xd
hearty shard
one day ill do source generation
restive turret
Nah
hearty shard
i mean
i could do this for the uhhh
secretapi command tool
extender?
whatever
many words
true cedar
one day ill do source generation
i think one day u should be funny
hearty shard
i think one day u should be funny
ur just a hater
true cedar
im stating the truth
hearty shard
nuh uh
hollow pewter
any idea why destroying a dummy through mirror doesn't remove them from the player list?
🤷♂️
it works that way base game
upper vapor
one day ill do source generation
I read this as "one day ill (sick), do source generation"
upper vapor
any idea why destroying a dummy through mirror doesn't remove them from the play...
When are you destroying it
hollow pewter
When are you destroying it
at the end of a coroutine
basically a creeper
there might be a more efficient way to handle it but i'll probably rewrite it later
wait i might know, i forgot to remove something
mayhaps
okay that was it
it just spawned two dummies
slate flume
<@434572461011501067> what do you think of the expressiveness of this xd
0_0
This is wild
hearty shard
guh
cyan crown
anyone here got the memory leak from unity 6.2
cursive cypress
upper vapor
anyone here got the memory leak from unity 6.2
Which memory leak
Idk if I've had a memory leak but I've definitely had a shit ton of crashes
Maybe 2 memory leaks in the past few weeks
But >=10 crashes every day
cyan crown
Which memory leak
I just heard people saying they lost some projects because with all of memory leaks in 6.2
Yeah same i had like 3 crashes recently
I might move to unity 6.3
upper vapor
I might move to unity 6.3
Ai
cyan crown
I saw they upgraded some bloom filters
upper vapor
They have ai now
cyan crown
I haven't read all the changelogs for it i only saw bloom changes
cyan crown
Yeah im looking into flax engine or something else in the time being i might stick to unity
I checked the changes there is no mention of AI for 6.3
Its only some other stuff like multiplayer and 2D stuff and now you can disable physX sdk as well
upper vapor
I checked the changes there is no mention of AI for 6.3
Huh
upper vapor
Its only some other stuff like multiplayer and 2D stuff and now you can disable ...
Huuuhhhh
cyan crown
I should've bought the 128gb ddr5 rams earlier :"(
upper vapor
Blud thinks he's cyn
cyan crown
that shit is worth like a house rn
upper vapor
that shit is worth like a house rn
Yeah the market is absolutely chopped
cyan crown
Yeah im still broke
This will probably affect server hosting in long term
Or even game development
upper vapor
The car is crazy
upper vapor
I'd also be rich had I not eaten it all
static meteor
Huh you can edit the csproj in VS 2026
grand flower
You couldn't before?
static meteor
I swear you couldn't before
upper vapor
Huh you can edit the csproj in VS 2026
VS user realizes that the ide lets you edit the csproj
You always could
You just had to click edit or something
upper vapor
You couldn't before?
Honestly I wouldn't have been surprised but it's had the capability
grand flower
wouldn't know haven't used VS in like 4 years
terse bone
I swear you couldn't before
VS doesn't allow direct editing of .csproj when the build system is MSBuild - you have to unload the project before editing (idk if it's still the case in VS 2026)
Here you use NET.Sdk and it can be editied directly
Just read that it's the style of project that changes, not the build system
upper vapor
VS doesn't allow direct editing of .csproj when the build system is MSBuild - yo...
Lmfao
How are so many people still using it
(Both VS and old framework-style projects)
restive turret
Huh you can edit the csproj in VS 2026
You can edit the new sdk style project in vs22 too
tribal dagger
I swear you couldn't before
i remember using it a long time before
before i discovered that rider had the same feature
now im ridermaxxing
upper vapor
now im ridermaxxing
🗣️ 🗣️
tribal dagger
why doesnt a text toy in front of another always block the one behind?
under some angles the one in front seems to be behind
i assume it has something to do with rotation
but these dont rotate on their own
depth buffer fuckup?
upper vapor
move one forward
tribal dagger
.1 of separation for anyone curious
tribal dagger
lovely
upper vapor
i know it gets very wonky after like 10k units but not at 300
lone harness
i maked this : LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Cassie.Message("customcassie mtf", playBackground: false);
how to disable subtiles and glitch effect
lone harness
isSubtitles: false
tried he not exist
upper vapor
also, what do you mean by glitch effect?
lone harness
also, what do you mean by glitch effect?
there is somme crick when the anouncement is here
upper vapor
tried he not exist
it's in the method
upper vapor
there is somme *crick* when the anouncement is here
um
what's the cassie message you're sending
if you have .g1 and stuff like that then remove those
lone harness
if you have .g1 and stuff like that then remove those
no
have not .g1... .g2 ect
its only a anounce : "customcassie mtf"
lone harness
u puted this : LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Cassie.Message("customcassie mtf", "", isSubtitles: false,);
and he said : expretion term ) not valid
lone harness
describe "crick"
going do a record
upper vapor
and he said : expretion term ) not valid
you have an extra comma
upper vapor
going do a record
???
lone harness
send u a reacord with the crick
upper vapor
can you record it for me?
lone harness
soon
upper vapor
aight, be sure to ping me
upper vapor
why not cancel the announcement
lone harness
why not cancel the announcement
what you mean ?
upper vapor
what you mean ?
i thought you wanted to replace the announcement with a completely custom one
lone harness
cause i'm using exiled
and exiled have labapi. (ect..)
just help me with LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Cassie.Message
Cause i need it for mor than 40+ anouncement
upper vapor
well, Cassie.Message shouldn't add any glitches
soooo
ummmm
soooo
set glitchScale to 0
that should fix it
lone harness
so why he doing an error at ) ?
upper vapor
read the error
upper vapor
it should (99.9999%)
lone harness
no +rep TvT
upper vapor
dunno why the glitch scale was set to 1 by default, i'm pretty sure it just used to send the message as it is
breaking changes 
upper vapor
huh
lone harness
LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Cassie.Message("customcassie mtf", glitchScale: 0, customSubtitles: null);
upper vapor
um
lone harness
also sound continue
lone harness
ok
hearty shard
what
lone harness
play at wii U
lone harness
due to last scp:sl version
lone harness
new CassieTtsPayload(message, false, false)
CassieTtsPayload false false so ?
hearty shard
-# i was taking a dump
i wish i couldnt read
upper vapor
then you don't need customSubtitles
upper vapor
CassieTtsPayload false false so ?
read what it does
lone harness
new CassieTtsPayload(message, false, false)
its in LabAPI.Features.Wrappers ?
i d'int find anithing about CassieTtsPayload
upper vapor
the source of your source generator thing
No
hearty shard
:c
upper vapor
i d'int find anithing about CassieTtsPayload
Quick fixes -> add using
upper vapor
Lazy
hearty shard
damn
lone harness
Quick fixes -> add using
didnt understand what u mean exactely
just i add using ?
just i put this ? : new CassieTtsPayload("message", false, false);
upper vapor
just i put this ? : new CassieTtsPayload("message", false, false);
Yes use that
upper vapor
just i add using ?
Your ide should be able to import it for you
upper vapor
Crazy
true cedar
how does one check for partial
how does one check for STUPIDNESS
hearty shard
how does one check for STUPIDNESS
get out
true cedar
by comparing to YOU
lone harness
Yes use that
ge just do noannounce
upper vapor
how does one check for partial
You don't
lone harness
^p^
upper vapor
The compiler will yell at the user
hearty shard
i see
upper vapor
ge just do noannounce
Huh
upper vapor
You probably shouldn't specify the accessibility modifier in the generated code
hearty shard
You probably shouldn't specify the accessibility modifier in the generated code
oh is it not needed
upper vapor
The user will set it themselves
hearty shard
ur so right
upper vapor
You shouldn't cause a conflict
hearty shard
whoops
upper vapor
"private public class"
upper vapor
Lmao
true cedar
i think we ought to exsanguinate eve
hearty shard
ur literally bald
lone harness
didnt undrstand for the announce TvT @upper vapor ;-;
true cedar
ur literally bald
i have fur
unique crane
Yeah can we like deport Eve
hearty shard
guh...
unique crane
Ive been asking for that for at least a year now
upper vapor
<@435474959595208704> do you like
What the fuck is this
hearty shard
What the fuck is this
idk im going insane
upper vapor
i think we ought to exsanguinate eve
Define that word starting with e
hearty shard
idk what im doin
unique crane
Idk what that word means either
upper vapor
i dont even wanna commit this code
You wanna commit war crimes
true cedar
Define that word starting with e
eve means stupid
upper vapor
Bruh
unique crane
But defenestration is surely better
upper vapor
Ok furry
hearty shard
woah...
upper vapor
But defenestration is surely better
Perhaps
true cedar
exsanguinate means to drain someone of their blood
upper vapor
exsanguinate means to drain someone of their blood
Right so you're like a vampire but a dog
upper vapor
Friendly fire will not be tolerated
It will be tolerated :33
hearty shard
You wanna commit war crimes
how would u do it 
unique crane
Oki :3
upper vapor
how would u do it <:GiggleHehe:674234945723432980>
StringBuilder
upper vapor
Not sure if it's any better ngl
upper vapor
BUT ALSO WTF DOES ME BEING A FURRY HAVE TO DO WITH KILLING WVE
Wave
unique crane
bloodletting
18th century ahh medical treatment
upper vapor
well i was thinking we could do like
"We" as in you (singular)
hearty shard
Not sure if it's any better ngl
i mean
sort of?
but
i think the current one is fine
its just writing the code itself thats the problem
hearty shard
which is why i asked for your code lel
upper vapor
Why not use string format
upper vapor
which is why i asked for your code lel
It's 10000x worse
hearty shard
Why not use string format
hmmm
yea well im building this for the case of like
if i need to add to it
its easy to
rather than like all of it in 1 string format 😭
upper vapor
rather than like all of it in 1 string format 😭
You can have multiple
unique crane
ill bite u
Woah
true cedar
wtf is this for
upper vapor
wtf is this for
Check the message below
true cedar
oh is this ur command framework?
upper vapor
Nah
It was for testing
A new one
But I scraped it cuz it's genuinely horrible to look at
upper vapor
It's nice and ugly af
true cedar
the greatest command framework ever imagined perhaps
upper vapor
true cedar
it would abuse the shit out of attributes
upper vapor
Mhm
true cedar
unfortunately i am very busy and also i dont wanna use c#
upper vapor
You have a skill issue
true cedar
you have a
true cedar
wrong because mine will be so unbelievably amazing in every way
hearty shard
what if no namespace?
i suppose i should handle that then
tribal dagger
UsableItemsController.GetHandler(plr).ResetAll();
why doesnt this remove the 268 coolown?
restive turret
prob because it also using GlobalItemCooldowns?
upper vapor
why do you have a separated method
you can just make execute abstract
it has literally the same signature
upper vapor
just i put this ? : new CassieTtsPayload("message", false, false);
this works
no subtitles, no background noise, no glitches
thouhg, why do you need a cassie announcement if you have it fully custom?
upper vapor
hearty shard
i dont think doing this in the string way is good way
😭
i genuinely think your way is better, if not a simpler version
upper vapor
how many lines for your command generation
upper vapor
i meant the source gen code
hearty shard
118 lines of extension for the writing
95 for the source gen file itself
the generate method is a lot smaller tho
upper vapor
mine is 78 + 221 + 137 lines
hearty shard
guh
hearty shard
yea ngl i wouldnt be opposed to doing smth similiar 😭
upper vapor
arguably it has more features
hearty shard
yea ngl i wouldnt be opposed to doing smth similiar 😭
this is also why i asked for yours tbh
well
not because i wanted the exact, but if ik how u do it, i can probably do it in a cleaner way...
upper vapor
i have attributes that specify properties so you don't have to override
then the execute method
hearty shard
gulp
upper vapor
and it builds tokens instead of stringbuilder or whatever
hearty shard
how does tokens actually work
hearty shard
and it builds tokens instead of stringbuilder or whatever
its just a stringbuilder with indentation built in
thats it
hearty shard
guh
upper vapor
its just a stringbuilder with indentation built in
you don't really need indentation though
warped prairie
upper vapor
but i like it!
onyx solstice
How turn off the noise while the cassie is broadcasting?
upper vapor
How turn off the noise while the cassie is broadcasting?
playBackground: false
onyx solstice
playBackground: false
LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Cassie.Message("emergency alert . . errors detected in operation lighting system, false, false , false");
?
upper vapor
you don't have the bools outside of the string
onyx solstice
nothing.,..
upper vapor
right, you're probably using it from nuget (which hasn't been updated)
onyx solstice
right, you're probably using it from nuget (which hasn't been updated)
Yep
upper vapor
you can either switch to directly referencing labapi or using Message("whatever", isNoisy: false)
onyx solstice
you can either switch to directly referencing labapi or using `Message("whatever...
Sorry, but where can I download the new version, because this one doesn't work either?
tulip kiln
Did anyone find a workaround for the VC issue where people going up an elevator are not heard anymore?
Or like, when using radios too.
swift nexus
Did anyone find a workaround for the VC issue where people going up an elevator ...
it's a base game issue
at least when using radios
tulip kiln
I am aware of that
Was just wondering if anyone knew of a workaround which could lessen its impact
boreal snow
could have jst done throw new NotImplementedException(); but that works too.
unique crane
could have jst done `throw new NotImplementedException();` but that works too.
Generally a bad idea inside of a command
boreal snow
I mean... if it works, it works. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
lone harness
how to disable mtf entrance and chaos entrance anouncement
upper vapor
how to disable mtf entrance and chaos entrance anouncement
look at #1404556538944950434
slate flume
I regret even attempting to compile NWAPI
This is why instead of porting old ass plugins, you recreate them from scratch
More time, but generally better quality
upper vapor
^^^^
slate flume
Sometimes it takes less time to just make it yourself because you're now dumping your time and energy into un-obsoleting an obsolete plugin framework 😭
You have to question if this is genuinely the best route here man
Trying to save yourself time and effort may just be having the effect of costing more time and effort
upper vapor
Trying to save yourself time and effort may just be having the effect of costing...
remember, 5h of decompiling can save you 5 minutes of reading docs
slate flume
remember, 5h of decompiling can save you 5 minutes of reading docs <:Smart:88561...
Anything to avoid... 🤢
Having to read the docs~
🤮
upper vapor
you don't need to read the docs if there are none