Well I'm happy for you
#plugins-dev-chat
slate flume
upper vapor
goofy ahh router then
or a coincidence
icy knoll
My isp changed ip 3 times
dynamic ip
upper vapor
it's not that difficult
restive turret
dynamic ip
Static
upper vapor
it's even easier on linux
static meteor
My ip is static :D
upper vapor
icy knoll
why would ur isp manually reset ur ip unless requested 😭
restive turret
Switched to fiber
upper vapor
why would ur isp manually reset ur ip unless requested 😭
cuz that's how they work
restive turret
Or the glass one idk
upper vapor
that explains it
static meteor
That would be fiber
static meteor
Lasers and shit
icy knoll
cuz that's how they work
ik, but ur isp shouldnt swap unless it's by request of u really
upper vapor
ik, but ur isp shouldnt swap unless it's by request of u really
many ISPs automatically rotate IPs every now and then
it's not weird
restive turret
And father changed plans so that resulted new ip
upper vapor
most ppl don't even notice cuz they aren't doing port forwarding
restive turret
ik, but ur isp shouldnt swap unless it's by request of u really
If it's dynamic they can change any time
upper vapor
And father changed plans so that resulted new ip
i change my plans every day
upper vapor
If it's dynamic they can change any time
yeah that's why it's called dynamic, i know, crazy
icy knoll
If it's dynamic they can change any time
ik
restive turret
Also router settings for internal so maybe your pc got DHCP'd
And you didn't set manual ip in pc settings
Or reinstall/mobo switch can do that too
I mostly claim x.50 and x.150
My laptop is 155 for example
upper vapor
Or reinstall/mobo switch can do that too
^^^^
late shoal
i tried to patch it but somehow i wont get the stats
celest thorn
^^^^
Axwabo would help me on building a crazy shit?
you have the client src
so you are the best on this
upper vapor
yeah i can build a crazy shit, just give me some beans
celest thorn
yeah i can build a crazy shit, just give me some beans
I wanna make
Multiverse
IN SL
this
making MORE world
so more scenes in SL
and kinda make them work
celest thorn
You know
cool idea
you could make SL in SL
like what does the SL scene need to work
to make possible make another scene
upper vapor
a lot
upper vapor
from a networking perspective
celest thorn
you're going to hate yourself forever if you try
You don't know me
remember
i did the impossible
grand flower
No but I know it's never going to work via just plugins
celest thorn
No but I know it's never going to work via just plugins
you sure?
Everything is possible if i can find a way to do it
grand flower
and even if you had access to SL itself it wouldn't be fun at all if it's even possible with its current codebase
celest thorn
and even if you had access to SL itself it wouldn't be fun at all if it's even p...
idc about the facility
fuck the facility
grand flower
You don't have access to the clientside how would you even handle that there
celest thorn
the facility is limiting your view
celest thorn
You don't have access to the clientside how would you even handle that there
I don't need it
grand flower
No I don't do SL stuff anymore I started my own project from scratch 
no limits here
Yeah you do?
slender lynx
so when we getting client side code
grand flower
through logic that you had access to
celest thorn
theres bound to be at least one
Its gonna be a race like USSR vs USA
Me vs the cheaters
who's gonna try and find it and abuse it before
celest thorn
I give up
btw like you know i wanna do something crazy before i leave this community
and sl is kinda getting boring
grand flower
the game's apparently not built to use it
might manage to get it not to crash/spam errors on the server but you won't be able to solve that on clients
celest thorn
might manage to get it not to crash/spam errors on the server but you won't be a...
I mean yea
i need to find some ways
to kill my boredom
grand flower
someone here was making a 1:1 SL clone so you could do that for luls
upper vapor
so when we getting client side code
the exact moment you &zero leave SL forever 
grand flower
I'm trying to differentiate from SL, even though I'll probably have a similar gamemode in mine
celest thorn
the exact moment you &zero leave SL forever <:toomuchtrolling:974345880817791016...
bro i was talking with ced next time SL Programmers are going to be open im gonna apply and fuck the cheaters
upper vapor
someone here was making a 1:1 SL clone so you could do that for luls
i think there are multiple people doing that
celest thorn
i think there are multiple people doing that
Can you leave an RCE so i can make client side mods :3
make an RPC that allows to idk execute code
upper vapor
make an RPC that allows to idk execute code
rpc you out
grand flower
i think there are multiple people doing that
I don't like SL's gameplay nowadays so I'm going back to more horror roots
celest thorn
honestly
grand flower
Granted with clientside and serverside mods that can communicate with each other you can make any gamemode you want
celest thorn
sl could be cool
celest thorn
Granted with clientside and serverside mods that can communicate with each other...
FR
upper vapor
SendZeroToTheDungeonsMessage
grand flower
So if modders want to remake SL 1:1 they can
celest thorn
because i cannot make goku in sl
upper vapor
is just not fun
just remake every other game
grand flower
I gave up waiting on that kek
slender lynx
4 years no triangles
grand flower
I'd rather make my own game from scratch with all the modding facilities needed
celest thorn
And then YEA
upper vapor
you can make it possible with quads and enough precise work
slender lynx
sl 1 triangle 0
celest thorn
you can make it possible with quads and enough precise work
Bro what are you on?
grand flower
Clientside mods, serverside mods, and goodies such as custom level editing
might even allow for map generation mods
celest thorn
A QUAD /= a TRIANGLE
upper vapor
Bro what are you on?
i'm just stating the facts
slender lynx
3 years past the date
celest thorn
GIVE US TRIANGLES
slender lynx
still no trianble
celest thorn
is it so hard to make a triangle?
slender lynx
next tournament im gonna make sure to bring up how much i need triangles on stream
dw
upper vapor
still no trianble
trinabel
celest thorn
Make sure to mention
fuck the AC
give us client side mods
cheaters are gonna be a problem anyways
so
grand flower
Sp00ky if you're so much into modding you should pop over see my project someday. I have a few other modders and I like having (very early) feedback
celest thorn
https://mirror-networking.gitbook.io/docs/manual/general/lag-compensation
Btw someone at nw, should review this to fix hitregs
grand flower
that'd require a good movement implementation
granted they're rewriting it so we'll see
celest thorn
Sp00ky if you're so much into modding you should pop over see my project someday...
uuuuhhh
i love modding
i love exploding clients
upper vapor
GIVE US TRIANGLES
this
and more quads
celest thorn
this
and more quads
Are you serious rn
slender lynx
this
and more quads
or just use the actual triangle
upper vapor
yes
slender lynx
dingus.
slender lynx
they're literally free
celest thorn
you want triangles
You are actually stupid
grand flower
i love exploding clients
You wont be able to (outside of freezing their game for a few seconds via a long running loop) the game detects that and halts the script heh
celest thorn
almost as if scale fucks it up
no?
upper vapor
Bro 30000k primitives
yeah and?
it might get added someday, idk
but for now this is what you gotta do
people have figured out how to do crazy models with basic shapes
you can figure out goku probably with basic shapes
upper vapor
almost as if scale fucks it up
welcome to
creating a parent game object
celest thorn
yeah and?
it might get added someday, idk
but for now this is what you gotta do
...
geniunly idk you have a brainchip installed or what
upper vapor
john tournament does not know how unity works?
slender lynx
john tournament does not know how unity works?
whats the point of people complaining and arguing since 2020 over a triangle
it was supposed to be added in 2022
grand flower
Why not just add support for loading models
slender lynx
like the badge rework
upper vapor
like a triangle is much lighter
yeah and you have how many triangles?
vs
if you did the quad-to-triangle method
again, this is for what you can work with
upper vapor
it was *supposed* to be added in 2022
i don't coordinate this so
slender lynx
and you're also saying all this like servers can run 30-40k primitives
we're the only server that can run that much
upper vapor
and you're also saying all this like servers can run 30-40k primitives
yes so zero have the capability to make goku
because they did insane stuff already
celest thorn
whats the point of people complaining and arguing since 2020 over a triangle
The SL players are gonna crying when they see in the changelog
- Added Triangle
celest thorn
yes so zero have the capability to make goku
because they did insane stuff alrea...
But its gonna crash the client
so
its no point
in making it
slender lynx
if triangles actually get added this game is gonna have a golden age
im telling you rn
celest thorn
https://i.e-z.host/🐀/kz43d94n.png
For nw this is a triangle
upper vapor
i personally agree with cyn, model loading would be more optimal at this point
marble cobalt
granted they're rewriting it so we'll see
I've seen you post this around a few times, and I do want to temper expectations, our main priorities are the big projects we've announced for 15.0 (and one unannounced that is plugin development related), we have one programmer who was experimenting with rewriting certain movement-related scripts, mainly in order to possibly reduce issues such as rubberbanding. We conducted a few relatively public tests of the branch, and had to go back to in-house development.
It is not a priority, and not some big movement rework we're working on.
It is something experimental, and experiments sometimes do not come to fruition
Not to say it won't happen, it's just unclear at the moment, and wouldn't expect it in future releases
upper vapor
zero have you heard of branches and merge conflicts
celest thorn
zero have you heard of branches and merge conflicts
BRO ITS A TRIANGLE
slender lynx
call that shit the triangle update steamcharts gonna be crazy
celest thorn
that A TRIANGLE is going to cause BRANCH CONFLICTS??
slender lynx
but ive been in the community since 2018
and i hate seein shit get promised
then forgotten
stealin candy from a baby ass statement
marble cobalt
I don't recall it being promised, but it could've been before I joined the studio
upper vapor
that A TRIANGLE is going to cause BRANCH CONFLICTS??
did you know that you have to add prefabs to the prefabs list to be able to spawn them
celest thorn
I don't recall it being promised, but it could've been before I joined the studi...
yes way before
slender lynx
I don't recall it being promised, but it could've been before I joined the studi...
it was promised in 2021 for 2022
celest thorn
did you know that you have to add prefabs to the prefabs list to be able to spaw...
But its NOT breaking changes
bro
nor fucking conflicts
LIKE
upper vapor
do you know what a merge conflict is
celest thorn
you realise that your answer to why nw is not adding it is changing every second
from saying "You can remake it with cubes" to "Merge conflicts"
nw adds brainchips to protect branding whenever you join
slender lynx
id verification
celest thorn
ced is making brainchips not fucking centrals
slender lynx
ced eats centrals
upper vapor
i'm just saying that there are potential difficulties with getting a feature in
and also
priorities exist, we can't just spontaneously add anything
slender lynx
thats his thing
celest thorn
i'm just saying that there are potential difficulties with getting a feature in
...
how long its gonna take to add a triangle
bro its geniunly so stupid
you go to fucking blender
click add triangle
slender lynx
i'm just saying that there are potential difficulties with getting a feature in
...
celest thorn
export add it make it a toy selection
grand flower
I've seen you post this around a few times, and I do want to temper expectations...
Ah, fair enough
so guess I can give up on hoping waypoints disappear 
/s
celest thorn
the brainchip is working so well
upper vapor
okay i'm not gonna add anything else to this
celest thorn
okay i'm not gonna add anything else to this
because you know its just not true
and its gonna take 5 seconds
at max
upper vapor
dramatic effect
marble cobalt
so guess I can give up on hoping waypoints disappear <:mmLul:405879229033742377>...
I will make sure that if we do end up finalizing any changes regarding movement from a technical perspective, that they're communicated (if applicable)
upper vapor
i'll let Beryl do the talking
slender lynx
again we aint tryna cause issues or anything of that nature but we do need triangles so bad
celest thorn
i swear i should've applied to labapi
marble cobalt
I will make sure that if we do end up finalizing any changes regarding movement ...
Like, if waypoints are removed, that's definitely something you'll be informed about lol, I know a lot of people depend on those
celest thorn
Like, if waypoints are removed, that's definitely something you'll be informed a...
WAYPOINTS GONE???
SL is gonna be the best game ever
marble cobalt
either read again or worst troll ever
slender lynx
Like, if waypoints are removed, that's definitely something you'll be informed a...
holy shit we're going in the right direction
marble cobalt
modest rock
@upper vapor u can add ur protogen models into sl with triangles
celest thorn
either read again or worst troll ever
Lets be honest Waypoints are just useless
marble cobalt
Bro I didn't say we're removing waypoints where are you both getting that from
celest thorn
Bro I didn't say we're removing waypoints where are you both getting that from
Yea i know
celest thorn
i said WAYPOINTS GONE??? SL is gonna be the best game
upper vapor
Lets be honest Waypoints are just useless
now we're talking
celest thorn
if they get removed
celest thorn
now we're talking <:toomuchtrolling:974345880817791016>
Bro you know answer
just go add triangles
upper vapor
<@435474959595208704> u can add ur protogen models into sl with triangles
i wanted to reply to this but zero's comment works too
slender lynx
first person to add triangles gets 100 usd paypal
icy knoll
why do you guys care if they are gone or not, if you dont spawn them they will never effect you 😭
upper vapor
but
celest thorn
first person to add triangles gets 100 usd paypal
bro is bribing with more money
grand flower
why do you guys care if they are gone or not, if you dont spawn them they will n...
they're still in the game and a pain in the ass limitation wise
upper vapor
but
celest thorn
than nw's devs has ever seen
grand flower
And performance wise
slender lynx
bro is bribing with more money
yeah cuz atp its been years and we need it
celest thorn
like biggest bounty in SL history
modest rock
1 million rupees to the first person that adds triangles
celest thorn
upper vapor
ill make it 2
still not enough to feed my chocolete addiction
slender lynx
40k venezualan bolivar
marble cobalt
In regards to triangles, this is the first time I hear people say this is something you as a community want or need, have you guys made a suggestion about it on the LabAPI Issues?
celest thorn
In regards to triangles, this is the first time I hear people say this is someth...
Bro check map editor reborn
you don't know the russian begging
slender lynx
In regards to triangles, this is the first time I hear people say this is someth...
check
mer
old nwapi
search triangle in this discord
modest rock
10 pesos and a green crayon for triangles on the bounty
celest thorn
check
mer
old nwapi
search triangle in this discord
lol
slender lynx
we've been preaching ts for years
celest thorn
exiled
icy knoll
i see no #labapi-logs for this feature request
slender lynx
the problem nobody talks about it is cuz we're always getting hit with the "we're looking into it"
slender lynx
i see no <#1274618109189423104> for this feature request
labapi didnt exist years ago
upper vapor
basically
icy knoll
it does now, report it and we can put it into our backlog
celest thorn
i see no <#1274618109189423104> for this feature request
...
modest rock
labapi in 2022 is crazy
upper vapor
and it might get more consideration
celest thorn
make an issue
slender lynx
the backlog so it will never be done
marble cobalt
first results
That screenshot is literally one person asking for it
upper vapor
https://tenor.com/view/shred-done-over-shredder-gif-8643184500671348132
as if every suggestion gets this fate 😭
celest thorn
That screenshot is literally one person asking for it
ok let me cook
marble cobalt
I'm not saying there isn't people asking for it
icy knoll
the backlog so it will never be done
every task that gets put into the backlog that isn't a duplicate is completed
so
slender lynx
whats the eta on backlog
marble cobalt
But I am saying I've personally never seen people ask for it as much as they've asked for other things
slender lynx
like im tryna see if its even worht my time putting in a req
icy knoll
whats the eta on backlog
if it causes breaking changes, could take a while to find a good place to merge
slender lynx
icy knoll
if it doesn't, then whenever someone handles it
slender lynx
85 results in mer
upper vapor
see you just had to contact the right person
modest rock
@icy knoll hey btw big fan of ur server :3
icy knoll
85 results in mer
ur still not reporting it on gh issues
celest thorn
ur still not reporting it on gh issues
give me 1s
icy knoll
as i said, complaining here wont help your cause
slender lynx
ur still not reporting it on gh issues
im playin roblox obby rn
please dont ragebait
icy knoll
give me 1s
icy knoll
<@618689346828238848> hey btw big fan of ur server :3
thank u! glad to hear it
upper vapor
give me 1s
1s given
marble cobalt
85 results in mer
My point is that I don't personally have the time to look through other discords to see what the community wants, although I do frequent both this and the Exiled discord, it is something I do out of my own free time, most of my work-time is spent coordinating work throughout the studio for future releases, such as 15.0 or the incoming hotfix for Halloween-related features.
If there is a feature you want to see happen, and are passionate about it, post an issue on the LabAPI issues tab. Our backlog is not a queue, something posted today can be approved and done sooner than other features depending on our timing and priorities.
marble cobalt
Would prefer if you post issues seriously, otherwise you're not going to gain much intention from us to pursue things
icy knoll
the thing is, do you want a pyramid or a plane in the shape of a triangle? 😭
celest thorn
Would prefer if you post issues seriously, otherwise you're not going to gain mu...
I mean its an explanation why triangles are good
marble cobalt
Be respectful towards other people's time is all
upper vapor
that's a lot of yapping for this issue
slender lynx
because its an important issue
celest thorn
Be respectful towards other people's time is all
What?
im confused
on how im being direspectful?
modest rock
on how im being direspectful?
late shoal
celest thorn
the thing is, do you want a pyramid or a plane in the shape of a triangle? 😭
i changed it to be Plane triangles so less use of vram for them and in case someone wants they can make pyramids out of it
slender lynx
the day the triangle update drops ill shave head for charity
upper vapor
15.0 "the triangle that shaved maro's head" update
slender lynx
ill do it
warped prairie
Triangle spawnwave
ashen hound
If some people wonder yes even old requested stuff is Look into just #serverhost-suggestions has many messages but no one mostly checks reactions
I fell like forum posts would be better
Afaik many messages from serverhost suggestions should be in labapi issues
I do fell if some people seen their requests being worked on then For sure someone would be happy or anyone interested
teal junco
triangles on their own arent good enough to make "any" mesh
you need to be able to deform it in literally any way you want
so...
idk what im saying, it just isnt gonna be that revolutionary all on its own
upper vapor
the community decides the triangle shape they want and they only have one chance to vote
restive turret
Ye
teal junco
what is the most efficient triangle congruence principle
restive turret
Every month we will have a "vote for next features" and we give 4 features and the community has to vote which one should be imported
upper vapor
and it'll take 2 major updates to add them
restive turret
Lmao
teal junco
you tell me
Angle side side obv
teal junco
oh if you arent like messing with me, triangle congruence principles are just the various minimum informations required to determine whether two triangles are congruent
for instance, three sides are good for that
teal junco
I see
well english speakers in middle school learning geometry like joking about an "Angle Side Side"
grand flower
Every month we will have a "vote for next features" and we give 4 features and t...
- clientside modding
- no waypoints
- uhhhh
- idk
upper vapor
at someone
soft depot
https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/314
This + client side parenting will legit just be custom models in SL 
teal junco
This + client side parenting will legit just be custom models in SL <:ClassDTrol...
the client side parenting of non networked objects that cyn proposed would be so insanely peak
grand flower
yea
teal junco
why not just allow loading custom models
I think that its for the same reason custom textures will never be allowed
teal junco
horrid for any game that isnt gmod
soft depot
the client side parenting of non networked objects that cyn proposed would be so...
Yea, but complicated so like gonna take forever for NW to do, I think my temp idea of some RPC’s would be nice for an actual feature really soon
grand flower
horrid for any game that isnt gmod
how so
teal junco
horrid for any game that isnt gmod
first theyd have to make a package manager for SL modding, and then I could see it being okay
grand flower
steam workshop
grand flower
oh right nvm
grand flower
downloading textures and models every time you join
i mean you cache them once you're done
grand flower
tbh im not expecting NW do add that support heh
soft depot
or "ASS principle"
ASS reference? 
teal junco
that's up to each server to decide if they think it's worth it
I am afraid that they will slip into it slowly
grand flower
It's planned for my project, via "content packs" which are just a type of mod i'll support eventually
teal junco
until every server has shit ton of bloatware
soft depot
at someone
Ax wabo
teal junco
the same way Gmod servers did
slender depot
Does someone know where jailbird gives the flashed effect in the code?
teal junco
the same way Gmod servers did
according to legend, gmod servers used to have a reasonable amount of content to download...
soft depot
Does someone know where jailbird gives the flashed effect in the code?
Probably some method for when the jailbird dash hits an IDestructible
I thinkTM
teal junco
according to legend, gmod servers used to have a *reasonable amount* of content ...
I would hate for SL to fall victim to the same fate
upper vapor
Does someone know where jailbird gives the flashed effect in the code?
JailbirdItem..?
grand flower
as long as you compress the content and don't abuse it, it shouldn't be an issue
slender depot
JailbirdItem..?
yep
grand flower
a lot of gmod servers don't abuse it and those that do generally dont have lots of players
upper vapor
decompile the code 
slender depot
decompile the code <:Smart:885618421763567647>
Did already
But I'm either a total smoothbrain or I'm blind
teal junco
a lot of gmod servers don't abuse it and those that do generally dont have lots ...
lies and lies
slender depot
Yay
grand flower
idk i dont play on many servers and those that I do play on use the steam workshop and handle their content properly
grand flower
i should invite you over to my project icedchai
grand flower
i feel like it'd be interesting to get your feedback
teal junco
i should invite you over to my project icedchai
really
slender depot
vs skill issue?
yep
grand flower
if you want
no prototype yet but now that I have Luau support ready (needs some more work but it's in a state I can use for modding) im getting started on the modding framework
since I want modding to be a first class citizen
restive turret
idk i dont play on many servers and those that I do play on use the steam worksh...
Oxygen not included is a great one that has workshop used
grand flower
Oxygen not included is a great one that has workshop used
yeah I plan to have workshop support & also web server support for content packs
so like you can put your stuff on the workshop or have a web server clients will download from (like you can in garry's mod)
but that's long term anyway
custom rooms/models can wait
restive turret
I kinda did the same stuff
But it downloads from server directly
Cus you have 3 different dll. Server, Client, Lobby
grand flower
I'll probably give that as a way to do it but you're gonna be killing your network if you have lots of players connecting and downloading stuff
I do plan to have native support for connection queues and all
restive turret
I never implemented actual downloading for it, just a poc
Many stuff was communicating tru WS
grand flower
Ideally you'd host your stuff on the steam workshop, might as well that way you can share content packs between servers
but i'll probably have a caching mechanism even between servers if they have the same files
restive turret
Ideally you'd host your stuff on the steam workshop, might as well that way you ...
My projects was not to depend on any server
grand flower
mine depends on Steam mostly fully
grand flower
i.e. I don't want to have central servers that stop people from playing if they go down
Steam has all the features I need and I'll have one or two backends that aren't critical for game function
one mostly for game management (client reports, server bans/blacklists etc, and maybe have it display news of the game) and another for server info
restive turret
Ye that's what i did to with the lobby
You can even host your master server
& just an ini edit and you connect there
grand flower
Mostly want Steam for its relay system
don't need to buy expensive ddos protection if you use Steam's and it's free
and well everything else Steam does is awesome
restive turret
I used Godot's ENET
grand flower
for networking I use Unreal's stuff but Steam can relay connections behind its servers, that way the server's IP isn't exposed, nor the player's IPs
restive turret
But i wanted to do a relay between platforms
grand flower
wins all around
don't have to buy expensive ddos protection, and players won't have their IPs leaked (mostly, since servers will be allowed to have a pre-connection verification mechanism that might leak the IP)
restive turret
So only you communicating the server and server communicates on every platform and stuff
grand flower
nice
restive turret
Was a poc
Never did it
Cus godot c# support is a joke
So i circulating between game engines
That has outside content loading
restive turret
don't have to buy expensive ddos protection, and players won't have their IPs le...
Wdym by preconnection stuff here
grand flower
Wdym by preconnection stuff here
Before actually connecting to a server, you "connect" to the server via something called an online beacon
Unreal stuff that allows you to communicate with a server without actually joining it
That way you do the pre-connection checks there, you can keep that beacon open as long as you want which is great for join queues
restive turret
So like a simple udp message
grand flower
yeah it just wraps it all so you can use Unreal's networking framework
restive turret
Ah
grand flower
so you can make the player send an http request to a backend of yours if you want to validate stuff
or give the player some data it needs to connect like a token
idk anything you want
restive turret
That's nice
grand flower
yeah I really wanna give a lot of control to modders
clientside modding also means custom UI
grand flower
same but like, it's something that's really lacking in SL
so being able to make custom UI is gonna be nice for modders
restive turret
Yeah
Since in my project you could load everything from the godots packed things, you could even loaded your own UI
Because my project was literally fully open source, every code is under mit (?) mostly just for learning
grand flower
neat!
mine's not open source (mostly)
the Luau plugin will be, the Steam plugin will be, but the game itself wont
however the game's base will mostly be a Luau mod and that will be open source
restive turret
Ye probably you cant really open source unreal games
teal junco
why not
upper vapor
Its in their eula, or something
restive turret
I don't actually remember it so might be somewhere or worded differently and I understand it wrong
grand flower
Ye probably you cant really open source unreal games
You can
But you can't open source any engine code/plugin
it's also kinda dumb to anyway in most cases
but with the amount of work im putting into the project i'd rather keep the source private heh
restive turret
Fair
grand flower
https://tenor.com/view/money-mr-krabs-gif-18326632
It's a free game
Or well, it will be
No point in making a paid SCP game unless you make something wildly different than the others
restive turret
Haha! You spoiled your project
grand flower
I thought that was apparently from the few messages I sent here today LOL
grand flower
custom rooms/models can wait
this
grand flower
I don't like SL's gameplay nowadays so I'm going back to more horror roots
this one too
restive turret
I thought that was apparently from the few messages I sent here today LOL
I'm half blind today so
And didn't get the meaning of it apparently
@celest thorn
grand flower
I pretty much compiled a list of annoyances I had with SL while working on Bright's, a few goodies I want, and started my own project
Also targeting 64 players per server stable, since maps will be big enough to support that
restive turret
Nice
Oh that time
I wasn't there, i was sleeping when you sent those mostly
Tbh i don't really like playing horror games alone
celest thorn
ngl im watching #deepwell-discussion
restive turret
But if someones with me im down with it
celest thorn
and having a laugh
restive turret
Scp 5k was horror for some of the maps
Especially the Act 2 iirc ||(the scp that is in the monitors)||
grand flower
Scp 5k was horror for some of the maps
the level design is ass though
my main gripe with that game
the amount of times i died to respawn in an area that instantly kills me because i'm not meant to be there anymore sucks
restive turret
Ye levels wasn't the great
viral root
How do i get the items the player had before dying?
static meteor
Use the Dying event and do ev.Player.Items
viral root
Makes sense, i used Died and ev.Player.Items was empty 🙃
celest thorn
slate flume
@upper vapor hey hey hey
You do NAudio stuff
I use it just fine on my windows testing server, but how do I get it working on linux
upper vapor
I use it just fine on my windows testing server, but how do I get it working on ...
it should work exactly the same way
NLayer + NVorbis work on linux just fine
the MediaFoundation part of SecretLabNAudio is the only windows-specific thing
tame badger
How can I block adding specific targets to SCP-096’s target list?
celest thorn
How can I block adding specific targets to SCP-096’s target list?
Scp096AddingTargetEventArgs and check the target and then do IsAllowed = false
upper vapor
Scp096AddingTargetEventArgs and check the target and then do IsAllowed = false
it's that shrimple
celest thorn
slate flume
the MediaFoundation part of SecretLabNAudio is the only windows-specific thing
I mean for my own plugin
I don't use SecretLabNAudio
upper vapor
added to the list of people using the audio api
❌
slate flume
just install the nupkg
So then why do I get errors that I don't have the mfplat dll
upper vapor
the what
slate flume
(a windows .dll)
slate flume
did you use the dll from the nuget package?
I put the NAudio .dlls in my dependencies folder
slate flume
Well at first I just did them all but then I tried without the ones with "Win" in them but now it's bitching at me for not including them
upper vapor
😭
slate flume
I tried using just .Core when I first used it be it was throwing errors
Adding the other dependencies fixed it
upper vapor
wait what other dependencies are we talking about
slate flume
The other NAudio .dlls
slate flume
No but if I don't include the other .dlls in my dependencies it shits itself
slate flume
How so
upper vapor
zer0 can attest that SecretLabNAudio works on linux, it only includes NAudio.Core and other NAudio packages not from naudio/NAudio
and i tested NAudio.Core on WSL, works perfectly fine
maybe something to do with the distro you're using?
slate flume
zer0 can attest that SecretLabNAudio works on linux, it only includes NAudio.Cor...
I know NAudio works on Linux, what I don't know is why it's shitting itself when I try to use it on Linux
slate flume
maybe something to do with the distro you're using?
Well if that's the case I'm fucked cause it's LudoHosting
upper vapor
I know NAudio works on Linux, what I don't know is why it's shitting itself when...
can you try a uh
clean server
with just NAudio.Core
upper vapor
Well if that's the case I'm fucked cause it's LudoHosting
do you know which distro they're running?
i'm gonna try a clean SL server installation with only NAudio.Core on fedora (wsl)
slate flume
do you know which distro they're running?
No clue
I mean the issue is most assuredly on my end
slate flume
I mean the issue is most assuredly on my end
^
upper vapor
maybe a ludo skill issue
slate flume
I don't think it's a .dll issue or anything I think it might just be what I use to get the audio playing
upper vapor
what did you use
slate flume
These are the two using statements I have about NAudio
upper vapor
that should work perfectly fine
slate flume
Called it
upper vapor
😭
slate flume
So I should convert my .mp3 to .wav
upper vapor
i asked if you only referenced NAudio.Core and you said yes
but yeah NAudio references NAudio.Wasapi
slate flume
Or is there a separate reader I can use
upper vapor
So I should convert my .mp3 to .wav
you can use NLayer
slate flume
you can use NLayer
Okay sure
slate flume
i asked if you only referenced NAudio.Core and you said yes
but yeah `NAudio` re...
I don't think you did
upper vapor
slate flume
https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1274617943258566726/143408787655...
I thought you meant if I tried using just the NAudio.Core in my dependencies
Installing the NAudio nuget gave me now way to view if AudioFileReader was outside of core, I just assumed it was
slate flume
So my bad
upper vapor
it's fine
NAudio has some organizational quirks like this
i've looked into SoundFlow but that's for .net 8 and up
and i don't have the mental capacity to create a wrapper around miniaudio
crazy
-# public archive
slate flume
upper vapor
it's also just
miniaudio but in C#
so you'd still have to deal with pointers & stuff
unique crane
scary
celest thorn
i love dealing with low level
celest thorn
low level academy
Im learning arm assembly
and i wonder why tf i need it
and like
all of the instructions are the same as IL
so
upper vapor
yeah but arm specifically?
celest thorn
Like im learning ARM Architecture
slate flume
Im not doing ANY of that
I'm saying they're use cases
slate flume
Oh it's for a college class
I thought you were looking for a reason to learn assembly
celest thorn
I thought you were looking for a reason to learn assembly
I already learned the one specific for NES
celest thorn
but its easy the arm architecture because its REALLY similar to IL just IL has more instructions for some stuff to make it easier
15 lines to just make a for
slate flume
but its easy the arm architecture because its REALLY similar to IL just IL has m...
Pretty much all assembly code has the same fundamentals just with more or less features depending on the architecture
Some CPUs have extra shit for calculating sqrts efficiently, so with assembly around those CPUs you see integrated sqrt functions, for example
celest thorn
Yea i know that BUT NO we need to go with arm
upper vapor
fast inverse square root
celest thorn
that has NOTHING
i love taking exams and writing pratically impossible shit
into a program that as already crashed 4 times
slate flume
In the modern day and age writing your own assembly code tends to be less optimized than what compilers do
Except for maybe small very niche functions
celest thorn
In the modern day and age writing your own assembly code tends to be less optimi...
obv like im not a compiler bruh
upper vapor
maybe the prof is doing this to waste time
slate flume
I think it's wild profs still teach assembly like it's needed
celest thorn
maybe the prof is doing this to waste time <:toomuchtrolling:974345880817791016>
No we learned how to make A CPU into like irl
like manually wiring
slate flume
That's also wild
celest thorn
and each of section done by us
slate flume
^
celest thorn
why tf are you learning that onestly
I DON'T KNOW
celest thorn
Im doing computer science
upper vapor
sue the university
slate flume
CPUs have been studied for actually decades
They've been micro-optimized by teams of engineers at tech companies
You don't need to relearn how to make one from the ground up
celest thorn
i've done each section
upper vapor
literally this with cpus
upper vapor
you're sciencing the computer
upper vapor
Im doing computer science
slate flume
like ALU etc...
Okay but some small architecture is fun imo
I built an ALU in minecraft
celest thorn
I swear i honestly did kinda understand wiring
but not that much
because i've never done it in my life
and fun fact im learning C and just that
for 2 years
to then learn C# for my specific section
upper vapor
can you just drop out
celest thorn
can you just drop out
i need a degree so no
celest thorn
and engenieering i know they do embedded stuff so like manually wiring and doing shit like even worse
upper vapor
°
slate flume
I did it for a semester and learned next to nothing
Telling me the same shit I already knew
celest thorn
fun fact most of my time in the classes is spent on doing nothing
im staying there just for being there
ig
slate flume
And then having me do hours of homework every day to prove I know the shit I already knew
upper vapor
Fuck college
erm actually
it's called university
-# i honestly don't know how different education systems work
celest thorn
one of the professors is like obssesed with optimization
upper vapor
one of the professors is like obssesed with optimization
hello
celest thorn
(you can understand which one it is)
upper vapor
im staying there just for being there
if it's free then it absolutely makes sense
slate flume
It depends on the conetxt
celest thorn
like he told us "you guys need to save every CPU cycle"
slate flume
Importantly "The word 'college' is generally also used as a synonym for a university in the US"
slate flume
like he told us "you guys need to save every CPU cycle"
Except the compiler already is bro
The compiler can write better assembly than even that prof
He's a stubborn fool
upper vapor
Importantly "The word 'college' is generally also used as a synonym for a univer...
i was just ragebaiting 
celest thorn
Except the compiler already is bro
Like he wants us to write perfect optimized assembly
like bro HOW
slate flume
i was just ragebaiting <:Kek:934139484558221312>
:O
celest thorn
HOW
slate flume
How dare you
slate flume
Like he wants us to write perfect optimized assembly
He can't even write perfect optimized assembly 💀
celest thorn
the other guy that does programming wants us to learn C library all by heart
like no docs
during exams
HOW?
hello???
slate flume
the other guy that does programming wants us to learn C library all by heart
Half a programmer's job is going on stack overflow and saying "How do I do this"
celest thorn
and we need to use Linux, nothing else
celest thorn
Like fuck you im not burning down a perfectly fine computer to install linux (arch to be specific)
just for your classes
upper vapor
the other guy that does programming wants us to learn C library all by heart
can we ban that person
upper vapor
Like fuck you im not burning down a perfectly fine computer to install linux (ar...
ig you could try dualbotting if you have space
celest thorn
as much as i like Linux some stuff i run OUTSIDE of the school stuff needs windows
restive turret
the other guy that does programming wants us to learn C library all by heart
I even read the c docs how to do stuff (ie interacting with sockets) and still need like 3 hours to do what I want
celest thorn
ig you could try dualbotting if you have space
i don't
celest thorn
I even read the c docs how to do stuff (ie interacting with sockets) and still n...
YES like PLEASE TELL ME
slate flume
This is a perfect example of why learning such a studied topic is irrelevant in the modern day
celest thorn
Its done to not be possible to pass them
slate flume
This is a perfect example of why learning such a studied topic is irrelevant in ...
Soome nerd already figured out the best way to do this
celest thorn
pratically yes
slate flume
Why do I need to reinvent the wheel
celest thorn
the only fun thing i really had fun was learning how to create my own instruction set
that was really fun
restive turret
Ye that can be
slate flume
If I'm designing a car, do I need to make my own tires from scratch with my own rubber and treading?
No
celest thorn
If I'm designing a car, do I need to make my own tires from scratch with my own ...
Yes
btw i was expecting uni was this complicated
slate flume
Learning CPU architecture and shit is all well and good for someone looking to be a CPU architect
But the average software dev or programmer doesn't need to know all that
celest thorn
Im not gonna use them
slate flume
It's extraneous knowledge you're only using in college to get a degree
celest thorn
One day i even asked if i was in the correct classes
slate flume
As soon as you get a job you're throwing all that out the window
upper vapor
If I'm designing a car, do I need to make my own tires from scratch with my own ...
ofc
then you'll have full understanding of each and every individual component
and you will be able to pass that knowledge down ||probably to nobody||
celest thorn
Because i was like Wait why tf am i learning HOW TO DO A CPU AND WIRES
celest thorn
ofc
then you'll have full understanding of each and every individual component
a...
Im gonna be with my son and tell him / her, you know how to make an ALU by scratch?
Your mom did it in uni while a dude who smelled like broccoli was near her
restive turret
💀
celest thorn
Like people in there the smell god
slate flume
ofc
then you'll have full understanding of each and every individual component
a...
It's like those people who get PhDs in Old Norse Mythology or some bullshit
celest thorn
https://tenor.com/view/working-from-home-homework-assignment-writing-sleepy-gif-...
In one class i was sleeping
upper vapor
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT AN XOR IS
slate flume
It's like those people who get PhDs in Old Norse Mythology or some bullshit
The only career path from it is teaching other people
There's no practical application
celest thorn
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT AN XOR IS
A GUY SAID “ehm professor we can do it with a xor this 
”
slate flume
The expertise is too specialized for 99.99% of people
upper vapor
A GUY SAID “ehm professor we can do it with a xor this <:nerd:113173835726586280...
find the duplicate in a set using xor
upper vapor
hello not a compiler
celest thorn
hello not a compiler
Hello im a compiler now
upper vapor
Hello im a compiler now
"yo bro what's your mom's last name"
"compiler"
in 2050
or something
celest thorn
"yo bro what's your mom's last name"
"compiler"
Im gonna go to my town hall and change my name
To compiler
When the judge will ask me why?
upper vapor
🗣️🗣️🗣️
restive turret
Laughed my ass of
late shoal
Can someone tell me if I need to patch something, so that spectators can inspect the CI keycard to play Snake, etc.?
upper vapor
i'm not sure if that's possible
you can try giving the spectator a keycard and force-equipping it
late shoal
you can try giving the spectator a keycard and force-equipping it
i did that and i cant inspect or do anything with it
late shoal
i saw it on a turkish server someday and it worked fine lmao
celest thorn
They don’t have an inventory
celest thorn
i saw it on a turkish server someday and it worked fine lmao
What?
upper vapor
i saw it on a turkish server someday and it worked fine lmao
ask them how they did it
upper vapor
I wonder if its fox
literally this is my homepage rn
celest thorn
Crazy
celest thorn
i saw it on a turkish server someday and it worked fine lmao
Can you elaborate like you were spectating someone or just like
Had the keycard
late shoal
Can you elaborate like you were spectating someone or just like
uh i was spectating someone and able to play snake while spectating
celest thorn
uh i was spectating someone and able to play snake while spectating
Did you configure something in sss?
late shoal
yeah
celest thorn
Oh then thats why
late shoal
so it is not possible without it right?
celest thorn
so it is not possible without it right?
Without it no
But with that same setup yes
You can emulate all of the keypress etc
And just send them through this dummy
For optimization
Maybe nah
But for being cool yea
restive turret
How can you spectate a spectator
icy knoll
How can you spectate a spectator
Player::Spectating = Player::Spectating
or whatever the value is called
smh
restive turret
Player::Spectating = Player::Spectating
That's only get
icy knoll
rly? damn
spare zodiac
That's only get
you can patch the get method
restive turret
That doesn't sync with fbe client so
spare zodiac
fake sync var possibly?
upper vapor
Player::Spectating = Player::Spectating
upper pike
Is it possible to make a human see a 079 ping
Or create a ping only a specific player can see
unique crane
No
untold raft
How MicroHID limiting movement speed to 5,40 m/s (normal sprint without any effects)
By disable effects or by FirstPersonMovementModule
I'm trying to remove this speed cap, but I don't know how it works.
unique crane
I'm trying to remove this speed cap, but I don't know how it works.
Unfortunely that is not possible as of right now
hearty shard
hearty shard
erm what the flip
celest thorn
Unfortunely that is not possible as of right now
“As of right now” implies in 15 we can modify everything???
icy knoll
“As of right now” implies in 15 we can modify everything???
[REDACTED]
upper vapor
“As of right now” implies in 15 we can modify everything???
It implies that the sun will explode in about 5 billion years
upper vapor
That's nothing compared to sending SSSS when you receive an SSSS update
hearty shard
trol
carmine prawn
oh sh...
carmine prawn
1% low FPS is very low
WHY DOES [HintEffectPresets.TrailingPulseAlpha(1, 1, 1)] CAUSE IT?
@sick flume hey
I guess HSM has the same problem
upper vapor
😭 😭 😭
Did you know
There is an AlphaEffect
And you don't need HintEffectPresets to have the opacity be 1 constantly
carmine prawn
wHaT?
carmine prawn
oh...
upper vapor
WHY DOES `[HintEffectPresets.TrailingPulseAlpha(1, 1, 1)]` CAUSE IT?
Not sure why this would cause severe performance issues on its own
carmine prawn
new AlphaEffect(1)
true
icy knoll
Not sure why this would cause severe performance issues on its own
well, HSM does cause performance issues on it's own anyway :3
carmine prawn
¿maybe
but that HintEffectPresets
stupid
the UI framework based on '<line height=0>' and 'voffset' is indeed very good to use
warped prairie
https://tenor.com/view/cat-steam-gif-17126246368493917777
whi he angry
untold raft
Unfortunely that is not possible as of right now
And can't i harmony patch this?
untold raft
Okay :(, when was this change added? I don't remember it being like this before.
untold raft
Damn what's a pity, I know this mechanics are to OP but option to restore this will be nice
It's a bit strange, actually. I understand that microhid is supposed to be a heavy weapon, but it's still strange that it doesn't work with effects such as movement boost or SCP-207, since this SCP basically improves motor skills. Of course, microhid could have its own weight and slow you down slightly, but not a rigid limit; no weapon has that 🙁
slender lynx
people really seem to like https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/314
burnt hearth
celest thorn
Its not like none wants it like someone said
upper vapor
hearty shard
https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-5620047667915736534
you!
upper vapor
Its not like none wants it <:Trolley:1138163682057146559> like someone said <:Tr...
"yo guys make sure to smash the like button cuz if we get 30K likes on this video we might just implement triangle primitives"
royal mica
people really seem to like https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/31...
this idea feels like a fewer dream
slender lynx
"yo guys make sure to smash the like button cuz if we get 30K likes on this vide...
literally yeah
we're getting everyone to smash that like button
celest thorn
"yo guys make sure to smash the like button cuz if we get 30K likes on this vide...
bruh you are just being a hater
im gonna make the voice of everyone heard
IM NOT STANDING UNDER BIG BROTHER
upper vapor
bruh you are just being a hater
grammar issue, invalid argument
celest thorn
grammar issue, invalid argument
love yourself
slender lynx
aint nobody care about no grandma issue
upper vapor
aint nobody care about no grandma issue
XDDDDDD
celest thorn
royal mica
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277981780661764146/1428462246954275067/t...
we should add lootboxes to sl
upper vapor
we should add lootboxes to sl
await Hiring.Programmer.Open()
royal mica
I do not want a 5th place to allocate time 
slender lynx
gtag lootboxes
i like that
upper vapor
why does this chat feel like server host chat rn
slender lynx
when john tournament is around we are all family
upper vapor
upper vapor
when john tournament is around we are all family
tell that to the workers in your basement
celest thorn
these tournaments dont make themselves
i know, (please give my family back)
teal junco
NERVER try show image on hint
I love showing an invisible image as a hint to my friends
I call it "the packet"
upper vapor
XDDD
worn burrow
celest thorn
store.DummyFollower.ReferenceHub.authManager.SyncedUserId = null;
store.DummyFollower.ReferenceHub.authManager.InstanceMode = ClientInstanceMode.DedicatedServer;
Why do the appear in the player list wtf??