plugins-dev-chat

[upper vapor]

older_person emoji

[hearty shard]

makes sense

[celest thorn]

Hello apple?

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

Wtf is this

[hearty shard]

does fit them

[upper vapor]

this is another reason why i don't use apple

[hearty shard]

why

cuz ur a pear person?

[celest thorn]

She will never understand because she has me blocked lol

[tranquil yacht]

Hi

[hearty shard]

bye

[icy knoll]

im tryna find a new phone that isn't apple but i cant figure out how to tell if a phone company is a megacorp 😭

[tranquil yacht]

I will like someone to make plugins for me

[upper vapor]

buy nothing?

[celest thorn]

Buy nothing

[icy knoll]

i hate nothing phones, they look so ugly 😭

[celest thorn]

Lol

[hearty shard]

buy groceries

[upper vapor]

!c#

[regal lake]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/

[celest thorn]

They LOOK soo good

[icy knoll]

i hate how they look

[celest thorn]

And customizable

[hearty shard]

pay a dev to do work for you

[celest thorn]

You are boring ngl

[icy knoll]

the oneplus 15 just came out and im like... hmmm it's a child to oppo so im unsure if it's a megacorp...

[celest thorn]

Honestly why you care if its from a megacorp

[icy knoll]

because i dont wanna give them my money nor my data

lol

[upper vapor]

grapheneos

[celest thorn]

At the end of the day you are giving it even by talking on discord

So

[hearty shard]

wtf r u on about now

[icy knoll]

owners are sketch, and it only works on pixels

[upper vapor]

https://grapheneos.org/

[upper vapor]

right

[hearty shard]

interesting

[icy knoll]

discord isn't classified as mega corp yet

[upper vapor]

find another OS

FOSS

[celest thorn]

Make your own OS

[royal mica]

Graphene is setting a deal with a manufacturer, were there any info about that?

[celest thorn]

[upper vapor]

huh

[icy knoll]

if only it was that easy...

[royal mica]

Honestly, the next best thing after Android/ios is Linux phones, but those are FAR FAR away from usable

[celest thorn]

Lumi can you become the next terry davis?

[icy knoll]

who the hell is terry davis

[celest thorn]

Check him up

[icy knoll]

too lazy dying rn tbh

[royal mica]

https://piunikaweb.com/2025/10/13/grapheneos-ending-pixel-exclusivity-new-oem/

I'm currently waiting for this OEM to introduce these new devices and switch to them

would buy a pixel phone, but I don't think its worth it

[icy knoll]

well, i have to wait til next year for a new phone anyway as i got my last phone last year, dont want a new phone within a year of getting my last 😭

[celest thorn]

He is a schizo developer who got told by god to create an os with 333 lines for each file and for that he created an alternative version of C (Holy C) that has the same characteristics and this OS still works today

[snow pulsar]

no

[icy knoll]

hm

[upper vapor]

templeos

[celest thorn]

He is famous for a ton of reasons mainly for the OS but for being a great developer just suffering from schizophrenia

[hearty shard]

ill do what i want

anyway

ax!!!

[snow pulsar]

I will delete your toilet and throw you to the gulag in my gambling server

[hearty shard]

gambling in sl?

damn...

[snow pulsar]

The real gambling

[hearty shard]

omg

REAL MONEY?!

[snow pulsar]

*quarters not actual money

[hearty shard]

then its BAD

[snow pulsar]

It's GOOD

[hearty shard]

nah no real money

its bad

[snow pulsar]

I got a dev cooking, they're rebuilding it as we speak. The original plugin is spaghetti

[tranquil yacht]

I will be able to

I someone is interested to by my dev plugin talk to mi md

[snow pulsar]

if that were the case it would be criminal

[hearty shard]

thats the point!

[snow pulsar]

No battlepass, no real money involved

Betting odds is still pretty funny though, someone losing quarters is always a giggle

[true cedar]

they should add a battle pass to this game

[hearty shard]

they should add cosmetics

and females

and gays

[snow pulsar]

You know what... for you saying that I should micro you 100 times at once, the sound may be ear piercing but oh well

[true cedar]

and lootboxes

[hearty shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1319079441200316468/1370068226310017097/attachment.gif

[snow pulsar]

Those already exist? Micro transactions being in the game or anything similar is just nuh uh

[true cedar]

:<

[tepid sluice]

Evil

[hearty shard]

sometimes

[tepid sluice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1319079441200316468/1370068226310017097/attachment.gif

[hearty shard]

so true

[upper vapor]

i'm gonna kill this fucking game engine

i've quit the game

went back to coding

idk what i pressed but windows started to not register keypresses properly anymore, i couldn't use the taskbar

taskkill /f /im unity.exe

killed 2 processes

and now the system works

😭

You can and should kill unity

Remember kids ^^^^

[icy knoll]

ai 🤮

[upper vapor]

microsoft forums were of no help

[fathom charm]

no way to turn off the music in the elevator?

[upper vapor]

nope, that's client-side

[fathom charm]

sad

thx

[upper vapor]

np

[tranquil yacht]

Im looking for a plugin developer

If someone is interested talk to me in my md

To be my dev plugin developer for mi server

[celest thorn]

And what’s the catch?

Like you do developer and?

[tranquil yacht]

Money

All people like that i think

That for interested people @celest thorn

[teal junco]

how much money?

big question

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/money-mr-krabs-gif-18326632

[tranquil yacht]

Depends in the plugin

[upper vapor]

Exiled has a forum for paid plugin requests

[tranquil yacht]

I want to make a plugins that makes a aurora around the body of the player who puts / aurora and the color they like

[tranquil yacht]

I prefer labapi

[tranquil yacht]

But where is that?

[snow pulsar]

https://discord.com/channels/656673194693885975/656709490959450113

then there's this channel as well in there
https://discord.com/channels/656673194693885975/682701812997816383

[celest thorn]

I like money because they pay the medical bills

For my dream so yea

[celest thorn]

If you want dm me

[snow pulsar]

I would do like a bounty board for plugins but I think i've already outsourced what I can't really do

being damned to HTML and basic python

[celest thorn]

Honestly rn the money will pay up medical expenses and a sword

Sp

[upper vapor]

[snow pulsar]

Don't you look at me like that, I at least can make a pastebin and map edit

[upper vapor]

I at least can make a pastebin and map edit
what are you trying to suggest with this

[celest thorn]

I can make maps, develop and make website

[teal junco]

that you cant

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-notebook-gif-20708336

[snow pulsar]

Nothing, some server owners don't know how to do either sometimes and it's scary

[teal junco]

nah i think hes just saying hes capable of those things

yup

[upper vapor]

i just posted cuz python is shit and i don't wish programming in it upon anyone

[celest thorn]

But it pays the bills and swords

So

Still good

[upper vapor]

the pastebin inability is truly scary

[celest thorn]

Thats much more simpler

[upper vapor]

gotta do what you gotta do ig

[celest thorn]

Yea

[snow pulsar]

I'm bitch slapping Patpeter next time he hops on SL

[celest thorn]

Lets be honest you pay me and you know your money are going towards pills (HRT) and just me buying stupid shit to decorate my room

Like isn’t that crazy

[teal junco]

5 usd

[celest thorn]

I can pay the pills

They cost 3 euros

[teal junco]

sick

[celest thorn]

The sword cost 500 euros but thats something else

Maybe im gonna buy a cheaper one

And just paint over some details that look shit

Hiii snivy

[snow pulsar]

wrong chat?

[celest thorn]

Maybe

[snow pulsar]

PFFT

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

I can get out of my house and use a sword against robbers

[upper vapor]

shank

[teal junco]

How do I check a player for permissions? I cant seem to find a good way to cover all bases

[celest thorn]

player.HasPermission(string)

[snow pulsar]

I'm very curious what's the most expensive plugin that I could find that was commissioned for SL

[celest thorn]

Cedmod replaces it

[teal junco]

Sorry i mean

Keycard

[celest thorn]

I mean i did it for free but the most complex and hardest is probably what i made in my opinion for what i’ve seen in projects

[celest thorn]

Let me get it i have it

[snow pulsar]

that's free though... no one probably has went over $20 USD unless it was really a complicated plugin like very complicated things or learning curves to actually accomplish a project.

[celest thorn]

    /// <summary>
    ///     Checks whether the player has a keycard of a specific permission.
    /// </summary>
    /// <param name="player"><see cref="Player" /> trying to interact.</param>
    /// <param name="permissions">The permission that's gonna be searched for.</param>
    /// <returns>Whether the player has the required keycard.</returns>
    public static bool HasKeycardPermission(this Player player, IDoorPermissionRequester permissions)
        => player.Items.Any(item => item is KeycardItem keycard && item.Base is IDoorPermissionProvider keycardProvider && permissions.PermissionsPolicy.CheckPermissions(keycardProvider.GetPermissions(permissions)));

[celest thorn]

i've made a plugin for 1K

that was my max ever

[snow pulsar]

why

[celest thorn]

the plugin needed an entire randomly generator for custom roles and custom abilities

in old sl

with random modifiers and stuff

seeds

support with discord

an entire dashboard

like that took me a month

[snow pulsar]

okay then... crazy work, old SL was also insane with some things

[upper vapor]

check secretapi

[celest thorn]

rn the craziest project i've worked is ATOH, which is an entire custom parkour server without using any SL assets but just primitives and makes triple the fps of base game

9 months of work

[snow pulsar]

I just remember when primitives were just admin toys and not used in plugins

[celest thorn]

i do too

but i always worked with them

until someday i had a voice in my head saying "MAKE THEM CLIENT SIDE"

and it worked too well

[snow pulsar]

CT needs to learn then I guess, most the servers that exist use a map editor but don't know much more than basics

May as well crack open the archives of Sloc and MER projects

[celest thorn]

the owner of CT played an alpha of the server

and we use client side primitives for alot of stuff and projects not only for that

[snow pulsar]

I still have a backrooms model I was working on

it's a list of things ranging from actual server things to documents, and then map editing for map files and whatnot

[ashen hound]

I think its not possible without some magic of having proxy in background

to make this possible you need to be connected to server still and send messages that you are not ready to client etc

[slender depot]

Why does every item's variables reset whenever a player picks up or drops it?

[upper vapor]

that should only be the case for regular items, not for firearms nor the micro nor the jailbird

could you elaborate?

[hearty shard]

be more specific

ItemBase become ItemPickupBase (which only saves stuff it needs to)

and then ItemBase again when you pick it up

[teal junco]

where do i get an idoorpermissionrequester?

like is there one i can access or is there a specific class i should instantiate

[celest thorn]

Door::Base

door itsels is a IDoorPermission

and some other

[hearty shard]

r u on about checking permisisions

on doors and gens etc

[teal junco]

No

i should specify

it doesnt involve a base game perm checker

so not a door or gen

[hearty shard]

specify

[celest thorn]

idk then how to help

[hearty shard]

what r u doing

[celest thorn]

if you don't specify

[teal junco]

checking a players permissions when they interact with an interactable toy

to decide whether interaction is allowed

[hearty shard]

you could always have a class that inherits IDoorPermissionRequester and check it the same way basegame does

[teal junco]

alr

i will try that

[hearty shard]

https://github.com/Misfiy/SecretAPI/blob/master/SecretAPI/Extensions/PlayerExtensions.cs

no need to use secretapi ur free to look at the code

[celest thorn]

After writing assembly for arm, im gonna say god arm sucks ass please throw your phone away

[unique crane]

Why so low level xd

[restive turret]

Why so serious

[spare zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/143867839282020352/1407468237293092894/PJI5tFSd1E.gif

[grand flower]

Got moved to a new project at work

Finished downloading it, a little over 1TB for just the project

I need a new NVME rip

[upper vapor]

XXXXXXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[unique crane]

Insert Western game dev has been here meme

[grand flower]

I mean projects are always gonna be a lot bigger than the game itself heh

[upper vapor]

please tell me that's the size with cached assets and not just the raw download

[fathom charm]

What happens if ignore the Player LayerMask?
Conditionally, I want to include a collision between player models, is it possible without using CapsuleCollider?

[upper vapor]

I want to include a collision between player models
what's this for?
you could do raycasting with only the player mask
i'm not entirely sure what you mean

[harsh thorn]

thats gonna be laggy as hell

as you cant apply a collider to the player from the server
other than spawning a primitive and parrenting it to the player or something, that might work

[teal junco]

itll have to have ignore collisions with the player its parented to, plus despawn on the player side

but it should work, albeit buggily

[upper vapor]

are we trying to make minecraft-like collisions?
or like in CS?

[harsh thorn]

would it?
aslong as the primitive is on the default layer it should work

[teal junco]

i think minecraft collisions would be harder

[upper vapor]

yea

[teal junco]

i mean itll probably introduce unexpected bugs

but itll likely work 99% fine at a basic level

[restive turret]

There is no unexpected bugs , just happy little features

[upper vapor]

so you wanna prevent shooting

[upper vapor]

expected happy little features

[harsh thorn]

make it smaller than the player itself, duh

server should have it be on a different layer too

[restive turret]

Make it 2x big then the player

[upper vapor]

make it Vector3.one * float.MaxValue

[royal mica]

despawn the players and just move the primitives around

[upper vapor]

despawn the players from World.Real so there's absolutely no collision

[grand flower]

wdym cached assets

[upper vapor]

Cached by untam

Unreal

[grand flower]

No raw

It's a big project

or well they're the assets of the project in Unreal form but no intermediate compiled stuff is on the source control server

no point

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-scared-meme-gif-17957807826502066848

[grand flower]

big projects be like

[cyan crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112815708879978566/1412969736450347129/914bender.gif

[vast canopy]

@candid spire turning off exiled helped with radio issue?

[frail zinc]

Can we talk culling toy ? Seriously how it works ? 💀

Crazy thing isn't it

[unique crane]

Parent other toys to it

If your player doesnt look at it

the toy itself and any child in it becomes hidden

[frail zinc]

Yeah but it's seems to do nothing, i've put the spawnable culling toy in parent of many (admin toys) primitives objects

It's because I don't use the labapi wrappers ? I'm only using adminToys for every toy I need

[slate flume]

How do you know it's doing nothing?

[slate flume]

Also why not use the LabAPI wrappers

This is very vexing

https://tenor.com/view/koffa-house-md-gregory-house-house-eric-foreman-gif-3254275732664605731

[frail zinc]

I've tested it, and its seems to do nothing

[frail zinc]

PMer use AdminToys i believe

The wrappers doesn't works, but admintoys does

[royal mica]

I wonder, would the CulllingToy react to the LOS broken by toy? Then you could spawn a transparent toy and check that way

[slate flume]

Yes but how are you testing it
You're testing a feature where an object is culled when it's out of your line of sight, so how do you know it's not being culled if it's not in your line of sight?

[slate flume]

What

What are we talking about

Why wouldn't the wrappers work

[frail zinc]

Idk

[slate flume]

Then why don't you use them

Are you not using them because you believe they don't work or because you tested them and they don't work

[frail zinc]

Idk why it doesnt work*

[slate flume]

This is an important question

[frail zinc]

I've tested them, for example, a schematic contains only AdminToys.PrimitiveObject

[slate flume]

Ohhh you mean when creating PMER schematics you can't use LabAPI wrappers

That makes sense

Yeah okay dope

[slate flume]

This is the follow-up

[frail zinc]

With the culling toy, the games should be smoother, right ?

[frail zinc]

Yep

[slate flume]

Ehhh depends

Culling toys reduce client load, not server load, afaik

[frail zinc]

Yes

[slate flume]

Because the server still processes the toys, the client just doesn't process it because it's out of view

[frail zinc]

Yes

[slate flume]

So you'd have to check FPS vs TPS

[frail zinc]

I've checked that

And no difference

[slate flume]

Very interesting

[frail zinc]

The exact same thing

[slate flume]

How many primitives did you add culling toys too

[frail zinc]

But i need to deal with the bounds of the culling toy, which is in some way a bit difficult, is not simpler as "put the culling toy in parent" ?

[frail zinc]

I don't have the numbers, but many, maybe over 10-15k

So you mean, the difference should appear if i hit a certain amount of primitives ?

That's logical, but with 10k, a difference should appear no ?

[slate flume]

This is a great question for uh

Where are they

@celest thorn

[frail zinc]

What do you mean ?

[slate flume]

Zerotwo is the local primitives expert

[celest thorn]

what

[slate flume]

Hey pal

This guy has questions

[celest thorn]

10k - 15k is gonna crash client

[slate flume]

Based

[celest thorn]

i made 50k and client crashed

lowered it via math and other shit and max i ever tested is 500

[frail zinc]

Even if i add culling toy ?

[celest thorn]

but i have broken limits

[celest thorn]

I have an entire custom system

so base game

max i've ever seen is 5k

mine works even with billions

[frail zinc]

My map should be over 100k primitives lol

[faint sparrow]

making me make a 200k primitives map 😔

[frail zinc]

5k is like a single big room

[celest thorn]

Im sorry to say

but no

sl isn't that powerful

and WTF ARE YOU DOING WITH 100k

not even fucking atoh has this many

and the map is detailed asf

[faint sparrow]

how are you making your maps bro 😭

[frail zinc]

We optimize everything, but yeah, many rooms, so many primitives

[unique crane]

Consider not having that many

[frail zinc]

Yeah

[unique crane]

Your doing something wrong

most likely

[frail zinc]

We reduce primitives as much as possible

[frail zinc]

Bruh @modern lark 😂

[frail zinc]

So culling toys can't help us ?

[crimson dune]

can unity even handle 100k at once?

[celest thorn]

no

[frail zinc]

In different scenes, yes

[celest thorn]

I don't think even vanilla unity can handle this many gameobjects lol

start considering maybe using less primitives

[frail zinc]

Yeah, we are doing that, since we have started

[celest thorn]

Honestly im impressed that you used this many prim

lol

im curious to know what are you doing

[frail zinc]

Not 100k, but i expect this number i think

We have probably 15k for our map right now, but its not finished

[faint sparrow]

are you making a gamemode or smth

[frail zinc]

Maybe 100k is exaggerated, but yeah maybe most likely 30-40k

[frail zinc]

Yeah a gamemode

With a full custom map

[faint sparrow]

then its either incredible detailed or not optimized

[celest thorn]

30-40k works but not in a way that you think

because to make work 100k prim in SL i've made an entire editor really complicated

[frail zinc]

Detailed and optimized

[celest thorn]

"Optimized"

[frail zinc]

We have separated our scenes

[celest thorn]

can you explain what you are doing i can try help

[faint sparrow]

^^

[celest thorn]

but if i know just 30k-40k in one place

i will 100% say nah

don't even bother

[frail zinc]

We use as few primitives as possible, but with quality detail

[slate flume]

If you want details, think outside the box

Who has that one sandwich image

[frail zinc]

We use different schematic, different scnes in unity

[faint sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1366151232577867937.webp?size=64&name=thinker

[celest thorn]

do you know how SL works?

because i don't think you know

and don't wanna burst your bubble

but Scenes in a server aren't possible (they are but trust me really complicated)

[slate flume]

This texturing was done using text toys

A lot easier computationally than a ton of primitives

[unique crane]

Its not good either xd

Unity doesnt like rendering a lot of tmpro

[faint sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295058798918107296/1303226405622124615/togif.gif

[celest thorn]

[frail zinc]

Scenes in unity*

[celest thorn]

they don't work

[frail zinc]

But verry laggy

[frail zinc]

Huh ? I think you don't understand what i mean

If I make a full map in Unity, in only one scene, unity editor is verry laggy, so i separate schematic with a new scene, uhm, i said "I", but my team mate did that

[slate flume]

A couple text toys are going to be less laggy then 100 primitives, I don't understand your point

[frail zinc]

On a sandwich yes, but on a map no

If I use textoys, for every wall, its super laggy than one primitive

[slate flume]

And again you misunderstand my point

I told you to get creative

You say you're using thousands of primitives for one room

That is very different from one primitive for a wall

I'm saying for more intricate stuff, think outside the box

Texturing? Don't layer primitives, try a text toy, try masking it in some other way

Reduce the primitive abuse

[frail zinc]

We already doing that

[slender lynx]

gl gamer

[frail zinc]

We are aware of that, and we know what we are doing

[celest thorn]

no you don't

[frail zinc]

Yes we are

Maybe not me, but my team mate, 100% aware of that

I'm not a level designer or a 3d artist, but my mate is

Anyway, so for the culling toys, AdminToys isnt good ?

[celest thorn]

it is

just if you don't abuse

[celest thorn]

and no

[frail zinc]

And how i know if this thing work ?

[celest thorn]

if you knew how sl worked then atleast 90% of the stuff you said you would know its wrong

or the limits

but by seeing your git it doesn't surprise me much, but beware that what you are doing is seriously impossible

[frail zinc]

Yeah my github is very old, with many old and archived projets, with garbage code, but yeah lol

[slate flume]

Preach sister

[frail zinc]

My current & serious projects are in private, i'm not the guy who you think i am, don't judge me by my github

[frail zinc]

Like what ? 40k primitives is not possible ?

[celest thorn]

i don't wanna be mean or anything but SL development isn't like you are modding a normal game this game is already running in mystical ways, so don't expect much i did pull off a ton of primitives but with sweats and cries

for days

[faint sparrow]

Not with MER

[celest thorn]

it took me 9 months to just make possible 30k primitive with 300fps

[faint sparrow]

max 4k (and its already not that stable)

[celest thorn]

and i already knew how this game worked pretty much, but by considering you are coming from other modding community / making your own game this game isn't as much customizable as you think

[frail zinc]

I'm coding on SL for like one year, but thats ok

[celest thorn]

im sorry to break your bubble

[celest thorn]

then you would know that Scenes in SL aren't possible

[frail zinc]

Yeah ?

[modern lark]

I'm working with 15k prim and I don't have any issue

[frail zinc]

I didnt said that

[hearty shard]

Chats

[celest thorn]

15k without crashing the server?

[faint sparrow]

Public MER?

[modern lark]

Well, yes ?

[frail zinc]

I was talking about unity

[celest thorn]

are they ALL statics?

[frail zinc]

Yeah, that's my team mate

[modern lark]

Yes ?

[celest thorn]

then that explains why

[frail zinc]

They didnt trust me lol

[celest thorn]

im not trusting you because i see that you don't have the knowledge and doing 40k is impossible

[modern lark]

I messed up once and spawned the map twice, and no issue was apparent

[frail zinc]

Yeah, i prefer to trust majorfox

You said 15k is impossible

[celest thorn]

15k moving is impossible

i can do 15k moving

[frail zinc]

But 15k is possible

[modern lark]

Why would you move 15k 😭

[frail zinc]

Oh yeah, a map is always moving

And i'm the stupid guy, alright

I talked about a map, why i would move a entire map ??????

[grand flower]

[unique crane]

woooooooooo

15000th pipeline

[frail zinc]

Congrats !

[grand flower]

the game dev pipeline will get you eventually david

[unique crane]

Yeah it crashed...

[frail zinc]

😂

[unique crane]

hopefully we get the upgrade to 14.2 with halloween end

should fix these issues

[modern lark]

Crash #15000

[frail zinc]

💀

[snow pulsar]

Me when they didn't fix the Gate B wall issue so I had to manually add it in so people couldn't see into other rooms

[slender lynx]

🧠

[celest thorn]

ngl bro thanks for calling me a genius thanks for that :3

[frail zinc]

I don't wanted to be mean, but explains us, why we would move an entire map ?

[celest thorn]

Im not saying you need to move the entire map but as soon as you need to like update something then your server tps is going to explode

SL runs already like shit

so

[frail zinc]

Yeah you're right, but a map is like 99.9% static no ?

[celest thorn]

no?

[frail zinc]

Uhmmm

[celest thorn]

and btw you will crash the client not even the server lol

when they join they will be flooded

[frail zinc]

Like what update, except for some elevators, i don't see what will be updated in runtime

[frail zinc]

I never tried this and will never x)

[faint sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1348759269067194429.webp?size=64&name=thinker~1

[celest thorn]

those elevator are going to be your doom

https://tenor.com/view/pyra-tea-xenoblade-chronicles2-gif-26108353

[frail zinc]

🙏

3 elevators max i think

But we can reduce at one

I hope it will be fine

Thanks for your help everyone anyway, we will see in the future if the culling toys is very helpfull

[snow pulsar]

I remember this... I broke a gate with MER

[teal junco]

good luck with culling toys

im stupid and couldnt figure it out

please let me know if you do

ALSO

why do you need so many damn prims

[grand flower]

Are custom primitive builds so important?

[restive turret]

Idk

[topaz yacht]

what did you do?

[warped prairie]

who up developing they plugins rn

[hollow pewter]

hello

i

[soft depot]

I think this is base game (173 gate not closing)

[teal junco]

How do I get players to see the keycard swipe animation?

[soft depot]

send RPC I believe in keycard

[upper vapor]

Me when I got 10K+ working
FPS isn't the best but it's not unusable either

[upper vapor]

Okay yeah that's not as horrible

But culling toys are easy

Maybe a pmer issue that you don't see a performance difference?

[upper vapor]

So you don't use as few as possible

[upper vapor]

^^^^

[snow pulsar]

no I absolutely wrecked the map by unloading the gate on accident

[upper vapor]

🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[grand flower]

opened that git profile out of curiosity and I see empty repos with readmes stating to download arbitrary executables or DLLs with no source code available

[upper vapor]

Me when
Static children
Only move the root

[grand flower]

wouldn't that still update the transform of children

or does Unity do some wizardry to optimize that

[upper vapor]

It will at least cause the toy not to set the transform values

Unity probably won't tank performance as much if you only move the parent

But if you start to have thousands of toys that aren't static which move with a parent, tps drops significantly

[upper vapor]

Hollow emoji

[grand flower]

is it just because of the network overhead of updating all the children

[upper vapor]

Partially yeah

[grand flower]

or are we talking something else

ah

fair

[upper vapor]

Also the engine calls xd

[grand flower]

yeeee

[upper vapor]

Though Hubert optimized them a little :3

[grand flower]

started working on the modding API plugin of my project

since the Luau one has progressed enough to be used that way

thinking about how I want mods to be laid out

[celest thorn]

Btw the disable collider is just for the body but not the hands so im gonna reuse the same loop i created before and applying it and then just remake it how it was

nvm i found out im a dumbass

[upper vapor]

Huh

[celest thorn]

nah it was me being stupid

don't worry

[frail zinc]

Yes, that's a specificity of this awful game lol.

(Everyone use github just to distribute plugins on this game, and nobody want to share the code, but don't check my archived plugins, that's shit)

I know how to use github, but anyway there's no point in criticizing me on such old things

[late shoal]

Is it possible to detect when SCP079 tries to open the map? I want to adjust the hint position, since it might overlap with the games default UI text, but I cant find the right method for it

[celest thorn]

No its client side

[late shoal]

everything client sided huh

[celest thorn]

Make it a suggestion maybe they are going to add it

Go to labapi github and make a suggestion for it

[upper vapor]

yes

[upper vapor]

how do you think spectators see 079's map

just postfix Scp079MapToggler.ServerProcessCmd

[late shoal]

ty

[upper vapor]

np

[royal mica]

also make a github suggestion so it is evented

[upper vapor]

i can guarantee 99% that there exists an issue for it

[royal mica]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/251

closed with "moved internally"

why are they closed without implemention

now we are in the dark

also other tickets are open are closed when released?

Or are these closed cause it modifies base game?

[upper vapor]

skill issue tbh

wait what are you saying

[royal mica]

some tickets are open and only closed when it is released in SL

[upper vapor]

yeah that might be due to base game implementation

though it varies kek

some are closed, some aren't

[royal mica]

all I see is most of them closed with same copy paste

and now only ppl who have access to internal git knows when it is released

[upper vapor]

if (WillCompleteIssue && (LabAPI ? true : Vibes()))
Close()

[royal mica]

lol

it feels like that yeah

it kinda goes into limbo for us

cause if it is rejected in the internal one, it won't be reflected to the ticket :\

[restive turret]

I think none of them got rejected yet

Probably the "Close as duplicate" or something (the white one) is used mostly in other places

[restive turret]

What

Can u rephrase this

[royal mica]

#plugins-dev-chat message

[restive turret]

Ah

[royal mica]

coffee not yet active in my brain

[restive turret]

Well if its bug ofc

If idea well

Idk

Git auto closing it when a PR runs

Merges

[royal mica]

No, they are closed manually

not with PR

atleast that is what I remember, it is possible that it is closed with PR

[restive turret]

If its a bug it supposed to be closed when PR merged

If an idea well idk

If you want can comment on prev and fut Ideas when got implemented

[royal mica]

Yeah but most [IDEA] issues are closed with with "moved to internal" and now there is no feedback on it

[restive turret]

As far as I know you can still talk in there

[royal mica]

It just my 2 cents that I find this weird instead of labeling

[magic gate]

It’s so sad that Steve Jobs died of ligma

[royal mica]

Yeah but closing means someone will open a new one with same idea

[restive turret]

Who is Steve jobs

[royal mica]

for example with the 079 Map open event

[magic gate]

Ligma balls

[royal mica]

its not the fact you cannot comment or anything. You'll read the changelogs so you know if your idea is implemented

I just personally find it weird how it is currently [IDEA] issues are handled, thats all

[magic gate]

Now I'm disappearing again for another month, bye

[restive turret]

Maybe can create labels as "Moved To Internal" & "Accepted/Denied"

[restive turret]

Cant believe he died by hava

[magic gate]

What’s hava

[restive turret]

But these mostly handled by Jesus so have to ask him

[restive turret]

Hava niceday

Gottem

[magic gate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1143290158007980222/1381527653953310730/togif.gif

[magic gate]

City?

[restive turret]

Are you robin?

The bird

[magic gate]

Robin you

[restive turret]

Robin who?

[magic gate]

Yu

[restive turret]

Call the doctor

[magic gate]

who?

[restive turret]

Also those (and all ideas) have to be accepted to start working on it.

Its not like "ya I have this idea, there it is already implemented"

[royal mica]

Yes, but the closure does not indicate if this was accepted or not

[royal mica]

Yes, but wouldn't the lifecycle of a ticket indicate the implementation state, whether it was rejected, started implementation or implemented?

Instead of "yeah this moved internally" and now only "implemented" is available (if you read the changelog)

[restive turret]

I didn't seen any that has been rejected, mostly just changed what the idea was

Many are in a backlog

But ye i agree with it

Tbh I don't think the "started implementing* needed

MovedToInternal, Accepted, Rejected, Completed

[icy knoll]

the thing is tho, not everything we work on gets into the next release

so if we say "oh we've already done that", people will get hyped like "omg next update" just for it to not come with the update

also, a little surprise is nice for when stuff does eventually release

[royal mica]

Yeah that is given, there are priorities of course and there is feature freeze before release

Just that it is closed with a copy paste and now you are in the dark is weird for me

There is an explanation why, but still is weird :\

[restive turret]

Bravo Six going dark

[royal mica]

Also especially, since if you have an internal repo, why keep the outer clean by closing everything, when you can just link back to the public repo from the internal

and prevent duplicates

and see that "yeah this is still requires implementation"

[worn gull]

Hi! How can I disable the Scp1509's revive ability and the effect on the scp item?

[unique crane]

Patch for now

[worn gull]

Okay

Thanks

But there will be events, right?

[unique crane]

Eventually yes

No promises when

[worn gull]

Alright

[upper vapor]

eventually

https://tenor.com/view/japonpr-lol-funny-hijab-laugh-gif-15957333

[worn gull]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-hehehe-mwehehe-gif-18358017715551073826

[icy knoll]

ur so funny ax, please don't go bald

[upper vapor]

is it just me or do SS keybinds with preventInteractionOnGui: true cannot be triggered by 079 unless they open the map?

they keybind also works if you hold space

does not work on breach scanner which is expected

[restive turret]

Lel

[plush walrus]

“Oops I dropped my mag oops I dropped my mag oops I dropped my mag”

[upper vapor]

@spare zodiac

restart after crash

[spare zodiac]

I love the restartrestart at the end

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/878752526546124880/1433500338207588514/attachment.gif

[upper vapor]

[frosty bobcat]

anyone willing to help with some scpdiscord issues?

[tepid sluice]

Which kind of help you needed?

[frosty bobcat]

cant seem to get rolesync to work, might be doing something wrong

let me show ya

[tepid sluice]

That's a plugin?

#plugins-discussion

lets go here

[frosty bobcat]

alright

[plain gazelle]

So the 10min skelly timer works but the visual timer for all players still has the default, so i guess i need to set the value differently.

My best guess is WriteCooldown, but i am not sure how to call that as it needs a NetworkWriter. Any ideas?

[upper vapor]

you need to send the rpc on the ability

[plain gazelle]

Elaborate

[restive turret]

check how the RemainingDuration works

[worn burrow]

how to get scp049gate?

[slate flume]

Like the gate from the area 049 spawns at?

Prob like

public static Gate FindGate()
{
    if (!RoleSpawnpointManager.DefinedSpawnpoints.First(spawnpoint => spawnpoint.Roles.Contains(RoleTypeId.Scp049)).CompatibleSpawnpoints.First().TryGetSpawnpoint(out Vector3 position, out _))
        throw new Exception("No spawnpoint found for SCP-049.");
    return Gate.List.OrderBy(gate => (gate.Position - position).sqrMagnitude).First();
}

[hearty shard]

Gulp

Does the gate itself not have a name

Thats easily identifiable

[slate flume]

It most certainly does

I just don't wanna boot up my game to find out

Every door/gate/whatever else is gonna have a string name on the gameobject

So figure out which name the 049 gate has and if it's unique just do smthn like Gate.List.First(gate => gate.GameObject.name == "...")

[static meteor]

The heartbeat didnt start

[2025-10-30 18:27:47.447 -05:00] >>> sr
[2025-10-30 18:27:47.527 -05:00] Server will softly restart in a couple of seconds.
[2025-10-30 18:27:48.050 -05:00] [DEBUG] [CustomItemsAPI] OnRemoved 2 False False
[2025-10-30 18:28:28.996 -05:00] Refreshed public key of central server - key hash not changed.
[2025-10-30 18:28:41.965 -05:00] Could not update data on server list (legacy)- Rejected - provided IPv6 (not supported yet - many players don't have one). Please set server_ip in config_gameplay file to your external IPv4 address.




[2025-10-30 18:29:07.711 -05:00] >>> sr

[agile tartan]

how can i set SCP-106 attack cooldown manually?

[static meteor]

There might be a better way to do it but this should work i think. Idk if it will sync with the client though

    [HarmonyPatch(typeof(Scp106Attack))]
    internal static class Scp106CooldownExtender
    {
        [HarmonyPatch(nameof(Scp106Attack.SendCooldown))]
        private static bool Prefix(Scp106Attack __instance, float cooldown)
        {
            double newcooldown = 94; // Edit this to whatever value you want
            __instance._nextAttack = NetworkTime.time + newcooldown;
            __instance.ServerSendRpc((ReferenceHub x) => x == __instance.Owner || __instance.Owner.IsSpectatedBy(x));
            return false;
        }
    }

[agile tartan]

awesome! i'll try it.

[upper vapor]

identity.ServerSendRpc

[worn gull]

Hello! How much TextToys are eating the server TPS/FPS? I want to make some textures with it for walls etc

[upper vapor]

riptide would like to speak

[late shoal]

When a player leaves the game, the PlayerDeath event also gets triggered. Is there any way to get the SCPs last HP, or somehow retrieve it from the PlayerLeft event?

[celest thorn]

yo guys twitch integration works SOOO WELL on SL

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/u2d7xi43.mp4

I can check alot of shit

Checking for Raids, Events, Messages etc...

im probably going to integrate a command system to it too

it took me not too much but requires 0 logging just channel name

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/xi6fdpda.mp4

[icy knoll]

there was this event to patch but i forgot what it was...

god damnit

i should probably add an event for when that's called anyway

[celest thorn]

PreDisconnecting or what will it be called?

[icy knoll]

yeah the naming is the weird part

[upper vapor]

you need to patch CustomNetworkManager::OnServerDisconnect

[restive turret]

Nice

Good job

[tepid sluice]

How i change StartRound gameobject to translucent

iirc there is a alpha color setting but i forgot where it is

[restive turret]

I think that's client sided

[tepid sluice]

uh i saw some servers make it like that

[celest thorn]

If i make it an API people could do crazy shit

but none is gonna be using it

[restive turret]

Not like you gonna be using it

[celest thorn]

Im gonna be using it

[restive turret]

Ur not a streamer

[celest thorn]

Tournaments

[restive turret]

Ah

[upper vapor]

you

remove it

[restive turret]

To troll player send "troll <id> <trollType>"

[celest thorn]

The bot tho cannot answer thats the only thing

but commands could be made

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/vj9gqo03.png

This is what i can check

And i can check with twitchuser some other stuff like What role do they have and some other stuff

[hearty shard]

GameObject.Find("RoundStart") or smth

Idk what exactly it has you can change server side but you can change the scale

[tepid sluice]

can i

[hearty shard]

Try it

[celest thorn]

I don't think

[hearty shard]

Probably not but

I've never tried anything other than scale

[celest thorn]

its a network identity so obv it works with scale

[upper vapor]

no

[tepid sluice]

help me wabo

[upper vapor]

set the scale of RoundStart.singleton to Vector3.zero

on waiting for players

i think that's it

[royal mica]

Wait, that is Synced?

[hearty shard]

yea

its how lobby plugins work

[hearty shard]

btw

RoundStart.singleton

turns out that has it

[tepid sluice]

holy shit

crazy

[hearty shard]

ya

GameObject.FInd isnt needed ig

i thought it was

[upper vapor]

don't use GameObject.Find

[hearty shard]

ya

[upper vapor]

i don't think the 2nd line is needed at all tbh

[upper vapor]

welcome to mirror

[tepid sluice]

yes i just put it here to compare

[upper vapor]

aight

[tepid sluice]

So i can't change it's alpha value anyway?

[upper vapor]

you can't make it partially transparent, no

[hearty shard]

me when

me when

github

just suggest it

[upper vapor]

suggest a fully lobby screen rework

[hearty shard]

or just 1 syncvar

[tepid sluice]

do that

developer

[hearty shard]

ax

get to

WORK!

[royal mica]

LabAPI wrapper

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/your-suggestion-will-be-considered-printer-shredder-suggestion-shredder-suggestion-printer-shredder-no-suggestion-shredded-suggestion-gif-5960810054433229927

[tepid sluice]

Then can i scale it down proportionally and align it to the top left on screen?

iirc we can do that before

[upper vapor]

you can't move it

only scale & rotate

cuz the client sets the position to 0

[tepid sluice]

well

ig i can do

[upper vapor]

ye

[tepid sluice]

auto partially transparent

lmao

[upper vapor]

huh

[tepid sluice]

ye i just want to remove the black background

[upper vapor]

i don't think you can fully remove the background

[tepid sluice]

Can i remove my npcs from this?

[royal mica]

why do I wanna see 106 doing a sick kickflip on a skateboard

[royal mica]

move them temporarily or apply invibility

[tepid sluice]

effect?

[upper vapor]

yea

[tepid sluice]

okay

[upper vapor]

i wouldn't be surprised if someone's already made a video like that

[royal mica]

oh god

implement a skateboard item

you can do tony hawk tricks

[upper vapor]

you can apply for programmer when the position opens up

[royal mica]

I already doing 4 stuff at the same time

I wish I had the capacity to do that

[tepid sluice]

Nah, remove them from the start round counter

:((

[upper vapor]

oh

well

that sucks

spawn them at the start of the round ig

not very good practice but what can you do at this point

set their SyncedUserId to ID_Host maybe

[royal mica]

You can patch the function to not count them no?

wait, is that client sided counter

[upper vapor]

the client

[royal mica]

Fake despawn them then on the client

[upper vapor]

ig that's an option too

[tepid sluice]

Like that?

[upper vapor]

just synceduserid

[royal mica]

Do you need to set those before spawning or it works after as well?

[tepid sluice]

okey

[upper vapor]

synceduserid? i'm not sure tbh

[royal mica]

well, we'll find out from the feedback

[upper vapor]

yeah

[tepid sluice]

not work

[royal mica]

Try setting them before spawning then

[upper vapor]

set it to null?

[tepid sluice]

fr? okay

[upper vapor]

i'm just guessing

[tepid sluice]

Still

sadly

imma set all of them to host

and doesn't work

[royal mica]

We need NPC dummies that do not count towards player count

Without these hacks

[tepid sluice]

Ax, fix it!

[royal mica]

I cant

[tepid sluice]

Nah i'm calling Axwabo to do that

xDD

[royal mica]

Could make a public library that contains niche things like this

[tepid sluice]

@upper vaporAx it seems like nightvision effect doesn't work?

[upper vapor]

#plugins-dev-chat message

[tepid sluice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1208896293452386377/1319115068947959899/glup.gif

[celest thorn]

Hiiii

Oh fuck i replied someone

as a mistake

ehm

sorry

btw that requires patches too

[royal mica]

no worries lule

[royal mica]

?

[tepid sluice]

how

[celest thorn]

because they still count in some aspects

Targets...

end round

etc...

[tepid sluice]

[royal mica]

I think she meant for the NPC impl

but I guess the whole thing applies for you as you just want interractable NPCs

Actually! Do you move those?

What are the purpose of them

[celest thorn]

I know how to move them too

not in heavy

still didn't figure it out a nice way

[royal mica]

Aren't they just using the Fpc to move like a normal player?

[celest thorn]

Yes but i mean like moving randomly

[tepid sluice]

As a sign

for team

[celest thorn]

or other stuff

[tepid sluice]

[celest thorn]

that have a logic

with pathfinding etc...

[tepid sluice]

I'll destroy them after round started

[royal mica]

What if you replace them with the prefab ragdoll that is frozen?

[tepid sluice]

uhh

idk

[royal mica]

oooh

that would be awesome, an AI movement system where you could implement pathfinding

Zombie mode in SL

[tepid sluice]

someone done this iirc

https://github.com/repkins/scpsl-bot-plugin

[royal mica]

I remember someone complaining about not having mesh path nodes

[celest thorn]

I did that

never went anywhere else

I have an entire AI system that still works

today

[royal mica]

not that AI, I still mean the oldschool AI meaning

where the actions are pre programmed

[celest thorn]

You cannot really do bots in sl with ai

i mean this one is a proof

but useless asf

[tepid sluice]

oh okay

[royal mica]

I mean for a simple zombie survival game it would be fine no?

[tepid sluice]

but i still interested in this

but it's so complicated

[celest thorn]

The one he showed or the one i was mentioning?

[royal mica]

wait no sorry, this just an automated AI, not the LLM based one I assumed from the description

[celest thorn]

yea but this one doesn't do anything other than escaping

it needs a rewrite

[royal mica]

kinda both?
Yours is the basic pre-determined AI as well, not the LLM one no?

[celest thorn]

for objectives

[celest thorn]

Mine thinks a bit on itself

based on some stuff

[royal mica]

Ah

[celest thorn]

Its NOT AI

tho

LLM

one

it has a probability system attached to it

on the next move

[royal mica]

Yeah I would skip ALL of the complicated self thinking steps and implement a very simple pathfind + kill system

[celest thorn]

you can make it stupid

[royal mica]

nobody wants zombies that have very advanced AI

[celest thorn]

zombies

are stupid

they don't have thinking for example

they just kill

and follow 049

The other is done for the players human classes

for example if you give a gun to a ClassD the classD is gonna take cover

and try to hit as many headshot as possible

heal and see where is the nearest heal

mine is advanced because i did it for a showcase at school and got the max grade for creativity

it was really hard

to explain to boomers how you can make this kind of prediction

and i still don't know why but my AI is so scared of Tutorials

probably because the flag for being scared is like int.maxvalue when class isn't found

[hollow pewter]

how do i disable 1509's resurrect ability? i tried to prefix Scp1509Item.CanResurrect and Scp1509RespawnEligibility.IsAnyEligibleSpectator but neither worked

[HarmonyPatch(typeof(Scp1509Item))]
[HarmonyPatch(nameof(Scp1509Item.CanResurrect), MethodType.Getter)]
public static class Scp1509RespawnEligibilityPatch
{
    [HarmonyPrefix]
    public static bool Prefix(ref bool __result)
    {
        __result = false;
        return false;
    }
}```
```cs
[HarmonyPatch(typeof(Scp1509RespawnEligibility))]
[HarmonyPatch(nameof(Scp1509RespawnEligibility.IsAnyEligibleSpectators), MethodType.Normal)]
public static class Scp1509RespawnEligibilityPatch
{
    [HarmonyPrefix]
    public static bool Prefix(ref bool __result)
    {
        __result = false;
        return false;
    }
}```

[upper vapor]

patch ServerProcessKill in Scp1509Item

[icy knoll]

if you dont want 1509 to respawn, might as well cancel the weapon spawning at that point 😭

[hollow pewter]

funny knife

[hollow pewter]

sooo now my game crashes when i equip it 🥴

[upper vapor]

um

i blame the person who implemented the item

oh theres a very simple solution

_nextResurrectTime

set it to like

a lot

[restive turret]

Because both check by client too

[hollow pewter]

ok so the crash was unrelated it just happened 3 times in a row right when i gave myself the item

awesome

but it works

tysm

[upper vapor]

BRUH

Np

[slate flume]

So I know you already did that but couldn't you just patch ServerProcessKill to do nothing?

I mean that's how it does the logic, no?

[HarmonyPatch(typeof(Scp1509Item), nameof(Scp1509Item.ServerProcessKill))]
public class Scp1509Patch
{
  public static bool Prefix() => false;
}

Right?

[upper vapor]

That's what they did

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[icy knoll]

or just transpile and return an empty array lol

[slate flume]

Woops

[slate flume]

I read this

And though they did that

I didn't bother to scroll up

[upper vapor]

[slate flume]

🔥 I love overcomplicating shit

[upper vapor]

or just

NetworkServer.Destroy()

[slate flume]

I just had to redo the port forwarding on my router cause my ip and my ipv4 changed

I have a dynamic IP address with my internet company but it changes like a few times a year

So the IP address I've memorized for months no longer works 😢

[upper vapor]

you have to redo port forwarding then?
what the helly

[slate flume]

Well I went from 192.168.1.17 to 192.168.1.5

[upper vapor]

right

[slate flume]

So I had to change the port forwarding to be for my new ipv4

[upper vapor]

make a reserved address for your machine

[slate flume]

Cause I had it for 192.168.1.17:7777

[slate flume]

Sounds like too much work

[upper vapor]

but that's your local one so that could've happened at any time technically

[static meteor]

Its just a page on my router

[upper vapor]

not sure why your external IP changing leads to reassignment internally

[slate flume]

You mean port forwarding?

Same

[slate flume]

no clue

[static meteor]

No reserved addresses

[upper vapor]

or you can set it in your computer's settings

[slate flume]

I just know I woke up this morning and tried to connect and suddenly both my internal and external addresses are different

[restive turret]

It shouldn't

[upper vapor]

that's honestly crazy

[static meteor]

My computers internal ip is 10.0.0.6