plugins-dev-chat

[celest thorn]

its impossible

nw adds rpc every day

[royal mica]

it would lag behind for sure

[celest thorn]

and new sync stuff

every day

instead of using stuff like normal mirror user

instead No RPCs, Packets

and only those

[royal mica]

I would steal the way how minecraft does it tbh, have the decompiled code, push it into branch see changes and then move from there

[celest thorn]

Interest manager could really benefit the ga,e

[celest thorn]

oh my god

please no

https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExMGd3NmE5Mm84d3hqcHN4Ynh0aTQ5cmhjZjN4cm5hcXdyN2dlMHZ3ZSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/DIXbeOZvRXznSsK3bw/giphy.gif

[royal mica]

atleast we can see the variable names

and not the obfuscated ones

[celest thorn]

you mean Ab?

who complains about SL has never seen minecraft

i would send them to work on minecraft 1.8

and then they would realize SL isn't that bad

[royal mica]

I'M coming from Minecraft modding

[upper vapor]

kill >>>> prefix

[royal mica]

creating an inventory was an ADVENTURE figuring out

[celest thorn]

im coming from minecraft modding & plugins

[celest thorn]

AHHAHAHAHHAHAHA

if you don't handle gui correctly

Duping

memory leak

[upper vapor]

me when

[royal mica]

straight up crash

[upper vapor]

you can use bukkit

[royal mica]

or you wonder why the fuck does the player inventory gets cleared

[celest thorn]

Bukkit DOESN'T have a wrapper

for that

Normal uis

have it

[royal mica]

imagine running bukkit in SP

[celest thorn]

but custom ones are chest

[upper vapor]

brh

[celest thorn]

and depending how you handle them you can cause dupes

[upper vapor]

for what

[celest thorn]

Custom Guis

as much as everyone wants to glaze mc

mc sucks

its just old code running on top of new one

with hopes and dreams

[upper vapor]

like

what

what is this if bukkit doesn't have a wrapper for them

[bright vine]

oh yeah

@upper vapor

[celest thorn]

Yes but you need to handle them

you can cause dupes

[bright vine]

did you find anything about 939 visibility controller?

[upper vapor]

duh

[bright vine]

i'm 99% sure it's possible to remove the blurring effect

[upper vapor]

nope

[bright vine]

from 939's vision

hmmmm

[upper vapor]

david has said it, it's client side

[bright vine]

i must dive into this deeper

wait what

[celest thorn]

i love client side

go check nw source code now that you have it

bruh

[bright vine]

939's vision is all clientsided? everything about it?

someone removed the blur before

like a few days ago but i can't find it 💔

[celest thorn]

impossible

[upper vapor]

#plugins-dev-chat message

[bright vine]

oh he pinged me

i did not get the ping for some reason

so that person went to game settings and removed the blur

[upper vapor]

umm

[royal mica]

does this prevent quick stacking

[upper vapor]

what quick stacking 😭

like

shift double click

?

[royal mica]

ye

[upper vapor]

it should because the item you click is what type gets transferred
you cancel it
the server handles the bulk move not the client

[celest thorn]

does it check for mods like gui utils for meteor

or prevent commands in the UI

[upper vapor]

[royal mica]

there are so many hidden inventory exploits

[celest thorn]

yea

https://ui-utils.com/

[upper vapor]

on 1.8?

[royal mica]

I watch duping on P2W videos and the exploits are insane

[celest thorn]

no

latest versions

[upper vapor]

right

[celest thorn]

ME too :3

[upper vapor]

sucks to be you if you mod newer minecraft i guess

[celest thorn]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/uiutils

i just don't wanna tell you but this

for duping its op

[upper vapor]

i think it's just developer skill issues

[celest thorn]

no some of them are just minecraft fault

or how flawed it is

example sending commands on guis, you think its impossible

instead it isn't

[upper vapor]

didn't say which developer

[celest thorn]

For example most of the bugs work with Desync

because

it closes for the server but not for the client

[upper vapor]

and the server just

lets you transfer items in an inventory that isn't even open

?

[celest thorn]

at that point you can just retrive items

and stuff

[upper vapor]

that's diabolical

[celest thorn]

and it works fine

you see why i fucking hate minecraft

[upper vapor]

i wonder what view.getTopInventory() returns then

can it crash the server

[restive turret]

There is some interest manager but it doesn't work like that, tbh I looking how it works and I was also looking to be efficient

[upper vapor]

benefit the gae?

[celest thorn]

nothing

because for the server the client doesn't have nothing

[upper vapor]

but then the server just... wouldn't transfer the items
cuz there's nothing to transfer
at least that's what i imagine, i don't actually know how mc handles inventory internally

[restive turret]

Tbh if interest manager is actually be made would be goated

But I think interest thing is client sided (no?)

[celest thorn]

I mean the problem with that is that you can pair it with "Disconnect and send packets" and create race conditions

and stuff

Desync is useful for that

[upper vapor]

huh 😭

[celest thorn]

It sends the packet while you disconnect

[bright vine]

guys

[celest thorn]

all at once

[bright vine]

is there a team that has no "faction"

or something like that

so the round doesnt just end when i like

[upper vapor]

Others

[bright vine]

set a specific scp's team to "chaos" for the global target counter but the round still en

Oh

is that what its called

[upper vapor]

just

[bright vine]

Others

[upper vapor]

check the enum members lol

[bright vine]

Im so

[upper vapor]

decompile GetFaction

[bright vine]

Thank You Axwabo

[upper vapor]

np

[upper vapor]

that's crazy now it still handles stuff

let's rewrite minecraft with mirror

[bright vine]

that one does not count towards the target counter

i thought you meant "Others" literally but i assume youre referring to OtherAlive?

[upper vapor]

that one probably

[bright vine]

that one does not count towards the target counter sadly

[upper vapor]

wait what are we doing

[bright vine]

Trying to make a custom scp count towards the scp target counter

i think i could just make OtherAlive count towards the target counter itself

[upper vapor]

don't

why can't you just check per player and add one if it's your custom scp

[bright vine]

oh okay then what should i be doing

[upper vapor]

with a patch

[bright vine]

But the part i dont understand is "adding one" to the scp target counter

thats the part im stuck on

the custom scp is still on the scp side

so im trying to make it a target with no faction

Lone scp basically

[upper vapor]

right

uh

you'll have to modify this lambda

[bright vine]

oh

thank you!

[upper vapor]

return true if the player matches

np

[bright vine]

how do you even find these? somehow i always manage to skip stuff like that

even if i triple chjecked

checked

[celest thorn]

@upper vapor i have a crazy idea

GUIs in SL

done with primitives

[upper vapor]

check the IL viewer in your IDE or other program

this is a nested class in roundsumamry

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

Why?

[upper vapor]

it doesn't work too well

since you have to fake sync the pitch

of the primitive parent

[celest thorn]

wdym?

[upper vapor]

you wanna put the primitive in front of the player

but you can't parent it to the camera, only the player's game object

so either fake sync or normally set the pitch

[celest thorn]

i mean i would do it that its like minecraft

so it stops you from moving

[upper vapor]

you can't... stop the camera from moving

[celest thorn]

you sure?

[upper vapor]

or can you

[royal mica]

Or treat the GUIs as ingame objects and allow user to move freely

[celest thorn]

i can

[upper vapor]

do you use 3114

[celest thorn]

no

[royal mica]

I was actually thinking about the same, making a GUI with primitives

[upper vapor]

or override rotation every frame

[celest thorn]

[upper vapor]

so you don't actually prevent the camera from moving

[celest thorn]

i honestly don't need it

but its funny

[royal mica]

I want it cause it would be dope

[celest thorn]

i don't but thats the best way to prevent it

[celest thorn]

i have honestly 0 use

even tho with meow combined i could do some cool stuff

[upper vapor]

yeah but you don't prevent it, you just force the rotation to be x thing, still flickers

[restive turret]

Like in Minecraft if you do cutscene

[celest thorn]

thats the only thing you can do

[restive turret]

Or just don't do ui

[upper vapor]

smarty farty

[upper vapor]

what the helly

[wanton turtle]

I remember

[dim slate]

Does anyone know where StaticUnityMethods is actually created and attached to a gameobject?

[glad pagoda]

in editor

[dim slate]

[slate flume]

Me when

[cyan crown]

These are in order

[slate flume]

This is so much more ominous and spectacular than current SL imo

[cyan crown]

Thanks its not finished tho so it will look much more better

You might notice that door panels make lights as well seeing by the hands reflecting the lighting

[teal junco]

oml i was so braindead

[slate flume]

Weren't we all

[upper vapor]

it's in the root of the scene
why do you need that though

[dim slate]

Because I'm trying to make changes to how it calls its delegates

To deal with issues that occasionally occur with null refs not being handled

[upper vapor]

you can't guarantee event invocation order

best you can do is put a gameobject in the scene with your own component and call transform.SetAsFirstSibling() but that might not work still

[burnt hearth]

Rare mitzey appearance

[dim slate]

I found a solution so no matter.

[celest thorn]

I do have a question can you make a ragdoll sling shot with explosion effect?

[royal mica]

The one NullRef issue, that murders the server? If so, Im interested if you have figured out the root cause

[static meteor]

Yes

[slender lynx]

hi guys!

[celest thorn]

i already made it with waypoints

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020295115828375562/1426574270779359312/pyra-xc2.gif

[slender lynx]

@celest thorn china or taiwan

🇨🇳

[royal mica]

[static meteor]

I made mine before waypoints ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[slender lynx]

its a fair question

why people so mean

[celest thorn]

skill issue

[slender lynx]

peace and love

and all will be ok

[royal mica]

Im just looking up, dont mind me

[static meteor]

Still have yet to use waypoints at all

[slender lynx]

i cant lie i forgot there was a chinese mod

it was a misinput general zao

[stable shore]

STOP TYPING UR HIGH AND DRUNK

[slender lynx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1321941519858663498/1415564417705316413/togif.gif

[royal mica]

That sounds awesome

Though not at 8am mytime, that wouldnt go well

[celest thorn]

1v1 on fortnite

[royal mica]

Only if implemented building in SL

[static meteor]

New idea

[celest thorn]

Crazy

i could do

but idk how tf you would divide everything in a grid

[royal mica]

You see 49 and you just start building

[upper vapor]

Me when damage handler velocity

[celest thorn]

wtf are you on?

[upper vapor]

https://youtube.com/shorts/nvAiVnGOIvk?si=kfz0kCGE5zh_lhX4

[upper vapor]

Didn't you want to swing a ragdoll?

Like

Make it go far

[celest thorn]

how?

like you can set it?

[upper vapor]

Yeah

[celest thorn]

which handler is this?

[upper vapor]

Just set the velocity

Any damage handler, no?

At least StandardDamageHandler

[dim slate]

I mean, if it's the one where player movement breaks yea

It's caused by one of the delegates in the First person movement modules active updates action

Just one null ref in this chain of methods can stop the whole chain

[keen halo]

[dim slate]

And that throws an exception up the chain to static unity methods, which kills anything that comes after FPMM

I patched and replaced these pieces of the game to use a more graceful solution that will ignore delegates that cause exceptions and allow the rest of the chain to continue

Cause otherwise player movement as well as many other things seise to work

[royal mica]

Yup, where the server get stuck essentially. No movement updates or world updates, only voicechat what works and LocalAdmin keeps getting spammed

[royal mica]

[celest thorn]

How can i parent a schematic (from mer) to a Player?

schematicObject.gameObject.transform.SetParent(player.GameObject!.transform);

this doesn't work at all but for no reason

[spare zodiac]

time to recreate

[celest thorn]

yo saskyc you know how to parent a schematic to a player?

[spare zodiac]

yes

[celest thorn]

how?

[celest thorn]

.

[spare zodiac]

describe how is it not working

[celest thorn]

because this doesn't

[celest thorn]

idk how

lol

like no schematic

is visible

[spare zodiac]

is it just not moving?

[spare zodiac]

ooooh

localPosition = 0

[celest thorn]

        Vector3 behindPlayer = player.Position - (player.Camera.forward * -2.0f);
        SchematicObject schematicObject = ObjectSpawner.SpawnSchematic("Hotdog", behindPlayer);

        schematicObject.gameObject.transform.SetParent(player.GameObject!.transform);

[celest thorn]

wtf you mean?

it should be behind the player

[spare zodiac]

after you set parent set the local position of schematic to 0

[celest thorn]

bruh

[spare zodiac]

then set it behind

[spare zodiac]

with localposition

[celest thorn]

hmm

[spare zodiac]

and make sure when you built the schematic in unity that it's in middle of the scene

[celest thorn]

I think it should be

[spare zodiac]

set the local position to behind position var after you set parent

[celest thorn]

i know that

i mean world stay

should make it work

lol

idk i do this stuff automatic on meow

so its not really a problem for me on meow

but mer is totally different

so learned my lesson NEVER make your own stuff else you forget everyone else

[spare zodiac]

do you set the local position of the schematic?

[celest thorn]

no?

world stay should set it for me

[spare zodiac]

bro

set the local position shatiwhdjakfjazxhskaj

[celest thorn]

WHY??

if world stay exist

bruh

schematicObject.gameObject.transform.SetParent(player.GameObject!.transform, true);

this true exist for a reason lol

[royal mica]

Cause parenting makes world origin to the parent

[celest thorn]

bruh

i hate SL

[royal mica]

Thats Unity

No?

[celest thorn]

Im sorry but World stay position should do that???

[royal mica]

Isnt it so the Parent is always the origin?

[spare zodiac]

¢=%}©{¢=¥×|∆£¥}?";#-#(_($

[upper vapor]

Just add a try-catch to your code

[celest thorn]

bro im geniunly 100% sure unity is not that stupid

[royal mica]

When you have parents they are your world

[celest thorn]

what...

[upper vapor]

The object you're parenting has to be an admintoy

[royal mica]

Idk, it is still morning

[celest thorn]

        Vector3 behindPlayer = player.Position - (player.Camera.forward * -2.0f);
        SchematicObject schematicObject = ObjectSpawner.SpawnSchematic("Hotdog", behindPlayer);

        schematicObject.gameObject.transform.SetParent(player.GameObject!.transform, true);

[celest thorn]

honestly idk how mer works

im geniunly trying my best lol

[spare zodiac]

it doesn't

[celest thorn]

this shit seems to be so stupid

[celest thorn]

bruh

[dim slate]

nw code doesn't have this

[royal mica]

try { Timing.RunCoroutine(...) }

[celest thorn]

so how tf you parent this shitty ass fucking schematic

geniunly i now remember why i made everything myself

[upper vapor]

You don't need to do that if you place it in world-space and then parent it
But the transform props have to be synced (not static will solve it)

[spare zodiac]

just set the local position

[celest thorn]

So i parent it to the player

and then set local position?

[upper vapor]

Don't use mer

Problem solved

Can't you just specify the parent in which to spawn the schematic in?

[celest thorn]

no.

[upper vapor]

Right

[spare zodiac]

yes

[upper vapor]

XDDDD

[celest thorn]

        SchematicObject schematicObject = ObjectSpawner.SpawnSchematic("Hotdog", new Vector3(0, 0, 0));

        schematicObject.gameObject.transform.SetParent(player.GameObject!.transform, false);
        schematicObject.gameObject.transform.localPosition = new Vector3(0, 0, 2f);

[spare zodiac]

        Vector3 behindPlayer = player.Position - (player.Camera.forward * -2.0f);
        SchematicObject schematicObject = ObjectSpawner.SpawnSchematic("Hotdog", behindPlayer);

        schematicObject.gameObject.transform.SetParent(player.GameObject!.transform, true);

//FUCKING LOCAL POSITION HERE ZERO

[celest thorn]

now if i use this it should work?

[spare zodiac]

try it and see

[upper vapor]

Shameless sloc plug

[spare zodiac]

I will have my pain in some time with sloc

[upper vapor]

(It lets you specify the parent when spawning)

[spare zodiac]

never used it only MER

[upper vapor]

What

[celest thorn]

I swear

i prefer meow

10 times

[spare zodiac]

I'll also be using it

[celest thorn]

i just need to do Create and specify it

thats it

[upper vapor]

I'm not englishing rn

[spare zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/878752526546124880/1426586400345559050/attachment.gif

[upper vapor]

Are you locked into mer because you're developing a public plugin?

[celest thorn]

yes.

[upper vapor]

Then

[celest thorn]

;(

[spare zodiac]

mer api is not good

[celest thorn]

No

[upper vapor]

Use another loader kek

[celest thorn]

Thats so true

[royal mica]

Create ome

[celest thorn]

btw what the fuck is the permission of mer?

[celest thorn]

I already have my own loader and works 10x times better

and easier lol

[spare zodiac]

creating pull request has no reason, because it won't get accepted...

[celest thorn]

I would never

[upper vapor]

I'm not very proud of the sloc API because i started it years ago but it's still pretty simple to load an object

[spare zodiac]

MER is very unreasonably hard to work with

[upper vapor]

Yet it's the most used...

[celest thorn]

yet its the one that sucks on customizability

[upper vapor]

Why don't I have an ome emoji

[royal mica]

[upper vapor]

I can't really give an opinion on that since I don't use it

[celest thorn]

I swear im gonna break something

It doesn't work

and I CANNOT EVEN CHECK THE SCHEMATIC

[spare zodiac]

go to unity and check if it's in the middle of the scene

[royal mica]

I guess that was the most popularized loader?

[celest thorn]

BECAUSE FUCKING DAMMIT I DON'T HAVE THE PERMISSION EVEN THO IM FUCKING OWNER

[royal mica]

Check MER github for perms lol

[celest thorn]

I swear

[celest thorn]

I ADDED mpr.*

nope

[royal mica]

I wish perms were accepting ** for all

[spare zodiac]

patch the command to not require permission

[celest thorn]

i found out

the idiot who made this fucking schematic

made it spawn -100

[spare zodiac]

of course

[royal mica]

???

[celest thorn]

bro

[royal mica]

Why

[spare zodiac]

most common issue

[celest thorn]

im gonna break

a keyboard

why tf mer is so hard

how do you fucking deal with this everyday

[spare zodiac]

because it was made by NW person

[celest thorn]

@slender lynx we did the best thing to switch off

god

[upper vapor]

https://github.com/Axwabo/slocLoader

[celest thorn]

OH MY gOD

now i can see it

[upper vapor]

Did you find the perms lol

[celest thorn]

no.

mpr.create

doesn't work

i swear

you know what

who tf cares

it works now

[magic gate]

Wrong

https://plugins.scpslgame.com/plugin/Axwabo/slocLoader

[upper vapor]

Okay

[magic gate]

That’s better

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/4rn04fcb.png

this is better

[spare zodiac]

ew

[upper vapor]

Private

[celest thorn]

bro trust me

i swear

adding a shit to this

is easier than anything i've ever done in my life

[upper vapor]

I'm not downplaying it's capabilities but nobody else can use it

[celest thorn]

at the start it was gonna be public

than maro saw it

and said nuh uh

[upper vapor]

Show your permissions.yml

[celest thorn]

but now i kinda agree

[royal mica]

Time to use this loader

[celest thorn]

default:
  inherited_groups: []
  permissions:
  - mpr.*
owner:
  inherited_groups: []
  permissions:
  - mpr.*
  - mpr.create

[magic gate]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-jumpscare-gif-997661854446361049

[celest thorn]

now its time to use your api

[upper vapor]

No Copilot agent mode?

[royal mica]

Fuck no

Ew

[upper vapor]

GL

Primitives at least are compatible for conversion MER -> sloc

[slender lynx]

why ping me zero

[upper vapor]

They should just work

[celest thorn]

because i now love you

[slender lynx]

i was sleeping

[upper vapor]

That's diabolical

[celest thorn]

oh sorry lol

[slender lynx]

huh.

[upper vapor]

Have you heard of
Platonic love

[celest thorn]

i swear if we never went away from mer at this point idk if i have a keyboard

[slender lynx]

nop

🇨🇳

[upper vapor]

What a sad life

[celest thorn]

btw you just understand it better only if you read platos

[slender lynx]

i am so.happy

[celest thorn]

i swear

[slender lynx]

because of alcohol

[celest thorn]

lovely

[slender lynx]

so it is not sad life

[celest thorn]

https://canary.discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1407844197301620826

btw this is better

[upper vapor]

Platos?

[celest thorn]

yes?

[upper vapor]

Never heard of it

[magic gate]

No!!!!

https://plugins.scpslgame.com/plugin/Axwabo/SecretLabNAudio

[celest thorn]

Plato

how tf you wanna name him

Plató

in hungarian

[slender lynx]

zero u look like plato

[celest thorn]

ME?

bro i don't look like plato

trust me

that guy was beautiful bro

[magic gate]

potato

[slender lynx]

aristotle

[restive turret]

Plútó

[celest thorn]

i love aristotle

[upper vapor]

This is a plató

[celest thorn]

i swear between plato and aristotle

i prefer aristotle

[slender lynx]

pythagoras

[celest thorn]

bruh

[upper vapor]

Oh the ancient Greek guy Platón?

[celest thorn]

i brought rocks at school to explain him

[upper vapor]

Xddd

[celest thorn]

its complicated to explain but simply enough, we are so stupid and this guy made a theorem with just the use of rocks

i explained the entire logic of pythagoras math using rocks

like he did

[restive turret]

Rock and stone

[celest thorn]

btw funny enough

0 doesn't exist

because if you think hard enough

0 rocks means nothing

so 0 therefore cannot exist

[upper vapor]

Nothing exists

It's my brain

[celest thorn]

there was a philosopher who said that

i forgot who it was

it was one of the recent one

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

i swear i forgot about him because it was schizo

everything was one

and we just see because we are one

or something like that

idk

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

fun fact some of the programming is based on philosophers like Aristotle

[celest thorn]

wtf

[icy knoll]

what the fuck 😭

[celest thorn]

Hii

[icy knoll]

heyo

[restive turret]

Yep exactly this reaction I was getting too

[celest thorn]

how you doing?

[icy knoll]

im okie, in a meeting rn that im like bleghhhhh

[restive turret]

Same

I watch the prof from my bed

[upper vapor]

Name your variables after Harry Potter characters

[celest thorn]

yo axwabo

fast question

[upper vapor]

Fast question

[celest thorn]

WaveStream to seconds?

is possible?

on your lib

[icy knoll]

did you see that tiktok/yt short too 😭

[upper vapor]

WaveStream.TotalTime

[restive turret]

What

[upper vapor]

Yeah

[icy knoll]

[upper vapor]

AlbertaTech

[celest thorn]

what

[icy knoll]

i was talking to ax smh

stop asking what 😭

[upper vapor]

Check naudio lol
WaveStream has TotalTime (TimeSpan)

[celest thorn]

yea it works

lol

[upper vapor]

Nice

Keep in mind that for compressed files it can be slightly inaccurate

E.g. 2:48 mp3 file might show as 2:51

[upper vapor]

What

[icy knoll]

[upper vapor]

Joe

Joe Rogan

[unique crane]

What

[upper vapor]

Emoji name

Joe angey

[celest thorn]

wtf you cannot change death messages?

[icy knoll]

you can

CustomReasonDamageHandler

[celest thorn]

only on that ig

[icy knoll]

you have to use that

[celest thorn]

ok

[upper vapor]

Yeah

[icy knoll]

there is also CustomFirearmReasonDamageHandler

or it may be CustomReasonFirearmDamageHandler

idk which

[celest thorn]

im testing with one

wtf its not working

i try to die from a dummy

ev.DamageHandler = new CustomReasonDamageHandler("Death");

and nope

[icy knoll]

yeah that doesnt work

[celest thorn]

why?

[icy knoll]

you need to deny the event and then spawn a new dummy

[celest thorn]

no?

im doing it on

PlayerDyingEventArgs

so it should be ok

[icy knoll]

well, it doesnt work like that for some weird reason

lol

even on the dummy spawning event

[celest thorn]

bruh

[icy knoll]

ragdoll*

[celest thorn]

ok so what should i do?

deny the event

and re do it?

[icy knoll]

deny the ragdoll spawning event

and spawn a ragdoll manually

that's what i did

[celest thorn]

bruh

i love nw

so i set the damage handler of the ragdoll ig

[icy knoll]

WHY DO I KEEP ON REFERRING TO RAGDOLLS AS DUMMIES 😭

[unique crane]

Silly

[upper vapor]

ev.DamageHandler = new CrashServerDamageHandler()

[upper vapor]

Yeah cancel the event and call KillPlayer with your own dh

[restive turret]

I dunno

[tawdry zephyr]

G

[upper vapor]

What is happening

[celest thorn]

there wasn't an event to check for SSSS updates or am i going crazy?

[upper vapor]

ServerSpecificSettingsSync

That has two events iirc

[celest thorn]

They aren’t included on labapi

I remember they did

[upper vapor]

Shocking discovery

I don't think that was a thing

[fathom cairn]

I don't think anything from SSS is in LabAPI (or ever has been), which is kind of a shame...

Now there are like 5 different libraries for it

[royal mica]

And all are incompatible with eachother

[upper vapor]

There was an experimental wrapper system implemented by Riptide, but it would be ideal to rewrite the base-game system

[upper vapor]

Let's make an SSCompatibilitator

[royal mica]

Heck, even SSSS IS incompatible with itself

[upper vapor]

XDDD

[royal mica]

Ngl, having an Nth plugin that patches all SSSS plugins is bigbrain

[fathom cairn]

Well I'm part of the problem as I made my own, but kinda wanted to make bridges or something to make it compatible with other libraries but haven't gotten around to it

[royal mica]

Wiill it have a self destruct button?

[upper vapor]

Yes

[royal mica]

Perfrct

[royal mica]

Tbh at this point who uses complex ServSide crated their own

Even I have my own basic one

[upper vapor]

ASS is kinda ass ngl
it's not really a wrapper, it's just a clone

[royal mica]

Idk why, it just was not made with multiple plugins in mind is what I feel

[fathom cairn]

Yeah, I tried making one which gives me full control, I even have collapsable submenus and the possibility of having "tabs" because I needed them for a plugin

[upper vapor]

patch the method to capture sending Ssss stuff
prompt GPT with the call stack and their IL codes
transpile

[royal mica]

And then you install a plugin that does DefinedSettings = [] and now the whole system is broken

[royal mica]

💀

[upper vapor]

All plugins will be compatible

[upper vapor]

Xddd

[icy knoll]

can we normalise ??= usage

[royal mica]

Useless if you just override the contents

And want to start with empty array

[bright vine]

does anyone know if theres a easy method to create escape zones

[royal mica]

MER or other libs have those no?
If you dont use any of those, I think you need to create a trigger primitive with a custom behaviour

[hearty shard]

https://github.com/NamelessSCP/CustomEscapes/

[bright vine]

so heres the funny thing im already looking at ur code

[hearty shard]

get the position you want it at

and spawn it the primitive there

has to be GameObject.CreatePrimitive (since it should be server side only)

[royal mica]

using plugins for everything

[bright vine]

thank you! thats the only code i'd need to create a escape zone, and it would trigger events like OnPlayerEscaping right?

[hearty shard]

how else would you do it?

[hearty shard]

you will need to handle that yourself

[bright vine]

wait so

[royal mica]

Manually in my own plugin (I meant installing new plugins to do it)

[bright vine]

You cant create a escape zone that can still be subscribed to labapi events?

[hearty shard]

I never said to install it

i gave how to do it with code example :)

[royal mica]

You just manually create the event and invoke the event

[bright vine]

is thie the case or

oh

[hearty shard]

PlayerEscapingEventArgs ev = new(// params)
PlayerEvents.OnPlayerEscaping(ev);

if (!ev.IsAllowed)
return;

yk?

you need to handle the event processing urself, but calling the event is just creating the args and calling the OnPlayerEscaping method with it

[slate flume]

You can

If you create an escape zone that uses the base-game handling (specifically Escape::ServerHandlePlayer) then it'll call the LabAPI events

[slate flume]

Unless you do the aforementioned

[slate flume]

^

[hearty shard]

that is too

is it not private?

tbf publicizing is recommended for this game

[slate flume]

Idk I use a publicized assembly

[hearty shard]

but for a newbie

[slate flume]

Half the shit in this game is private
They're asking how to create an entirely new escape zone

It's easier to get a publicized assembly than it is to manually invoke LabAPI events and other shit

Especially because that would also entail handling the entire escape from scratch

[hearty shard]

yes.

[royal mica]

Just do reflection

[slate flume]

This also works but it's lame

[bright vine]

i did not know creating an escape zone was a bit this complicated 😭

i will do my best

[slate flume]

And unnecessary

[slate flume]

It's not really that complicated, you just need a publicized assembly

[bright vine]

what assembly

which dll

[slate flume]

The game assembly

Assembly-CSharp

[hearty shard]

Assembly-CSharp.dll

[bright vine]

yeah i have that

[hearty shard]

also

[slate flume]

You publicize the assembly

[bright vine]

i even have the publicized one

ys

yes

[hearty shard]

@slate flume that doesnt work

[slate flume]

There you go

Problem solved

[slate flume]

Says you

[royal mica]

Lot of things are complicated sadly cause game modding is a blood sacrifice filled witch magic

[hearty shard]

add bounds to EscapeZones

[slate flume]

Get a better assembly publicizer

OHH wait

I see

[hearty shard]

what does that have to do with it???

[slate flume]

I thought you were pointed out the originalattributes as a problem

No I see

[hearty shard]

you will need to create bounds

thats it actually

if you do that game handles it

[slate flume]

Does the base-game automatically check all escape zones in the list

[hearty shard]

yes

[slate flume]

So it's just

[slate flume]

No not for that

[hearty shard]

@bright vine

[slate flume]

I mean

[hearty shard]

create one and Escape.EscapeZones.Add it

[slate flume]

You misinterpretted my question

[hearty shard]

Which list

[slate flume]

Still not the question lmao

[hearty shard]

"Does the base-game automatically check all escape zones in the list"

what list

what escape zone list

EscapeZones ?

[slate flume]

Bruh

Stop for a second

And listen

[hearty shard]

the answer is yes there

[bright vine]

its here

it checks for each bounds

[slate flume]

I KNOW

LISTEN

[bright vine]

and it passes if the said bound has a position

[slate flume]

LISTENNN

[bright vine]

just say it

[bright vine]

okayy ty

[slate flume]

I'm trying but people keep interjecting

[hearty shard]

you can just say it

us speaking does not mean you cannot

but ya

[bright vine]

But thats the thing u keep saying "listen litsennn listennn i keep trying to say it but ppl interrupting"

if u had that much energy u could have said it 😭

[hearty shard]

honestly

client side shouldnt even register the event

[slate flume]

In order to check bounds the game has to run Escape::ServerHandlePlayer
When adding bounds to the Escape.EscapeZones does the server automatically recognize the new escape zone and run ServerHandlePlayer on the bounds or do you need to handle it yourself

[hearty shard]

ServerHandlePlayer calls CanEscape which checks all bounds

[slate flume]

Yes

You misread my question

[hearty shard]

i mean the answer was yes

[slate flume]

No

The question is what the fuck calls ServerHandlePlayer

And does it handle the new bounds

[hearty shard]

^

[slate flume]

Then that's answered

[hearty shard]

my original answer was correct to your question

but yk

[slate flume]

Yes but it was answering a different question
Same answer =/= same question

And the other question was important to ask

[hearty shard]

it was same question until you changed your question to where it is called tbh

[slate flume]

It was not, I just phrased it poorly the first time given the context

[hearty shard]

okay ill rephrase

the question you gave me was very different until you changed it

[slate flume]

^

[hearty shard]

yes

[slate flume]

https://tenor.com/view/steamhappy-steamsad-steamangry-steammad-steamangy-gif-10453971517039865787

[hearty shard]

hence rephrase specifiying what you gave me and not your intent

[slate flume]

I'm not used to having to elaborate so much on the questions I have

It's only in this channel that people don't get my reasoning

[hearty shard]

surely

[slate flume]

Which is fine it's just new

To me these questions are logical follow-ups to make sure things actually work

[bright vine]

thank you so much for letting me know about the Add option @hearty shard

[hearty shard]

So was "does it automatically handle all the things in the list" yes it does

[bright vine]

this makes it so much more easier

[hearty shard]

[slate flume]

This was a crazy first recommendation though why not just take a glance at the escape code 😭

[slate flume]

I mean it takes no time to recognize this

This is a weird hill I know I'm gonna die on so I'm just gonna leave it at that and go back to finishing my NPCs

[hearty shard]

I wrote it off of memory

i didnt even have my rider open

and i havent checked escape code since i think i updated custom escapes

i do not remember ins and outs

yk?

like i barely could do good code back then

and i haven't really tried to keep it perfect

because i dont care enough to and thus i gave the answer i remembered, which i then corrected when i saw the better solution?

[slate flume]

I only mentioned it because I hate that people overcomplicate shit all the time for newer devs, and even just for themselves
There are much cleaner implementations if you just scratch beneath the surface level
I don't mean it as a diss just when giving advice to people on implementations it's good to make sure you're not guiding them down a false path like you initially were until I threw in that comment

[royal mica]

What is the rest here

[hearty shard]

um

i closed so no screenshots for you

but it handles the events and stuff

and setting role

[royal mica]

aha, so you cannot define a custom escape, just an additional escape bound

that could be added to LabAPI functions

[slate flume]

Tbh I just did a patch to servergetscenario and called it a day for my purposes

Though

You can change the newRole in the Escaping event

[hearty shard]

why not just escaping event

ya

[slate flume]

I added it a while back before escaping event iirc

Well before newrole in escaping event at least

[royal mica]

Oh the event even gives you the zone so you can specify if it is your zone or not

cool

Yeah then the custom primitive with collider is a gross overcomplication

[royal mica]

Reflecting on this remark, on my side this was a plain "I did not know you can do this"

[slate flume]

Yeah I got probably a bit more heated about it than I should have but seeing this kind of thing happen is kind of frustrating for me

It's part of why I try to stay active in these channels cause a lot of people don't double check the stuff they're saying

[royal mica]

I mean it is valid, as complicated solutions never helpful

[hearty shard]

it was made for exiled

[slate flume]

Yeah but it's not the end of the world or anything

I just try to do my best to help out new devs

Everyone is there at some point and there aren't really any good resources for people to learn the skills they need to figure these things out

[royal mica]

I mean it would be helpful for having these in a community made faq

[slate flume]

It just happens that I have to come in here sometimes to spit facts 🗣️

[slate flume]

100%

[royal mica]

Like different levels of complexity

[upper vapor]

Kill

[slate flume]

I would love to contribute to that

Though the questions people have tend to get quite specific so it might be hard to get everything in one forum

[royal mica]

You can give generic enough solutions, like in this case, that you can point to the thread and give adjustments

[slate flume]

I think there's something to be said about letting people know that tools exist to explore the assembly themselves

Need to learn about escape zones? Check Escape

[royal mica]

Oh defo, reading sourcecode and exploring is a must have and not a lot of people want to dvelve into that sadly

[slate flume]

100%

[royal mica]

developing the instinct of "where should this be if I were to do it" is a very precious skill

[slate flume]

I used to have to come in here to ask questions all the time but now I only come in here when I ask questions that stump other devs too lmao

I finally got my Dummy NPCs working

I had a working iteration before but I handled everything in one coroutine

It was a mess

[royal mica]

I come here when I have a situation where I'M very stupid and I do not realise

[upper vapor]

AI detected: delve

[royal mica]

nope just a warcraft player

[slate flume]

Cyn helped me realize that

Components exist

Now I use them

Big up

[royal mica]

Components as in the Behaviours?

[slate flume]

Yep

[upper vapor]

Yes

[royal mica]

Yeeeah

[upper vapor]

But me when awaitables exist

[slate flume]

I came into SL with 0 Unity knowledge

[upper vapor]

(I broke them)

[slate flume]

Learning about components was like unlocking a forbidden technique

[royal mica]

I still reimplement the old nwpluginapi approach of iterating through a list of class

[upper vapor]

Huh

[slate flume]

https://tenor.com/view/psl-fire-burning-building-on-fire-gif-14879622

[upper vapor]

ArrayList<Class<?>>?

[royal mica]

{
StaticUnityMethods.OnUpdate += OnUpdate;
}

private void OnUpdate() {
  for (var obj in objs) {
    ...
  }
}

[upper vapor]

Ah hell nawh

It might be slightly faster actually

[royal mica]

This skips all the Unity component attach stuff

and just relies on the Player class

so I can do post disconnect /deletion and no need to worry my component getting YEETed

[celest thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020295115828375562/1426574270779359312/pyra-xc2.gif

[celest thorn]

                   Dummy.ReferenceHub.authManager.InstanceMode = ClientInstanceMode.DedicatedServer;

Should this remove it from the Player List (the menu you press with N), because now it doesn't do it anymore?

[slate flume]

Uh prob

Though you might have to change the dummynetworkconnection instance used

Because I think the network connection it uses currently forces it to be a dummy and that can't change post-auth

So you'll have to instantiate the dummy with your own dummynetworkconnection

[royal mica]

Would it be possible to hide it with the new Spec hidden command?

[celest thorn]

no

[royal mica]

Hmm interesting

[celest thorn]

wait

doesn't

[royal mica]

How does that even work then?

[celest thorn]

spec only remove from spec

[royal mica]

Wait that does not hide from the playerlist?

[celest thorn]

no?

[slate flume]

Sometimes I hate not being a server owner for the server I dev on because I have to keep removing features

[celest thorn]

You know whats funny then they ask you to add them back

[slate flume]

I added a plugin that allowed cuffed militants to escape and they tried to make KOS rules more strict because of it

[celest thorn]

[royal mica]

bruh im stupid. I removed my vanish command cause I thought this completly removes you

[slate flume]

So I had to just fucking remove it so we wouldn't drive away new players

Like are we serious right now

[celest thorn]

why nw makes it soooo hard to hide players from the list

[royal mica]

we have strict rules and it is already ass

[slate flume]

Strict rules get you nowhere as a server

No offense

[royal mica]

Not if you are Official

[slate flume]

Oh yeah true

Official servers have a higher standard

But for community servers strict rules are a death sentence to growing your community

[royal mica]

yeah, especially KOS

[slate flume]

If people are leaving your server because your rules are too strict then you've done something wrong

And in this case that is exactly what was happening

I don't have the power to change the rules but I can just

You know

Remove the feature

Then there won't be any more rules about it

Just sucks that I have to do shit like this

I get so frustrated sometimes because with these things I feel like I'm shouting into the void

The only voice of reason in a crowd of dissent

The feature was cool when people weren't arguing about it all the time

It created some nice community building moments

[celest thorn]

btw just make the syncuserid null and works

[royal mica]

WH

[celest thorn]

yea

[royal mica]

you make it null and it just disappears?!

[celest thorn]

yes...

Dummy.ReferenceHub.authManager.SyncedUserId = null;
Dummy.ReferenceHub.authManager.InstanceMode = ClientInstanceMode.DedicatedServer;

[royal mica]

Can you spectate them in the list?

[celest thorn]

no

you cannot do shit with them

[royal mica]

damn

That is a good to learn thing

cause I'll need it

Actually another important thing, I assume it does not count towards the player limit, right

[celest thorn]

idk

i just patched it myself

everything

to make sure

[royal mica]

ah

Will test that without the patches and see

Cause I will need that

[celest thorn]

idk i just hope it works fine

and it doesn't count

[upper vapor]

You need to set the synced user id

To null iirc

[celest thorn]

i did

now

and it works

[slate flume]

Hey axwabo

[upper vapor]

i'm gonna kill this stupid piwece of shit app

[upper vapor]

[upper vapor]

hello

[restive turret]

what i did is deny the event and handle custom role escaping myself

[slate flume]

What

Why

Huh

[restive turret]

because custom roles supposed to either not escape or retain some stuff

like effects, item

and other roles to escape

[royal mica]

Ah I meant as in you cannot define internally, so you would not need a separate event handling for it

[restive turret]

even set new position

[restive turret]

I think thats server side , hmm maybe can be made into a dict or whatever

[royal mica]

You cannot, it is handled as enum sadly

like you cannot create a new EscapeScenario enum and have your logic just applied on the update function is what I meant (related to the escape zone Bound creation)

[restive turret]

ah

isnt there an event in ServerGetScenerio?

[royal mica]

You can just use the OnPlayerEscaping event to handle this, what I meant is you cannot just define a scenario class and register it like with the Escape zone bounds

just a small observation

[restive turret]

ah ye

[royal mica]

The zones are dynamic but the escpae scenarios are baked in

[restive turret]

we using kinda the same thing as you wish i think

[bright vine]

you can still define it by using the Escaped event and changing the roles there no?

i feel like thats very simple to do

[restive turret]

changing the role 2 time

ye def inefficient

[bright vine]

Escaping

[royal mica]

It is not changing twice

[bright vine]

change the newrole yourself

Escaping event exists for that efficiency

[restive turret]

you said Escaped

[bright vine]

i meant Escapings

orry

[royal mica]

Look at the code, you can see the event args overriding the role you are giving the player

[bright vine]

Escaping*

[royal mica]

but I'm not saying you cannot do with the event, all I'M saying is, you cannot do the same as in with Bounds, where you can just do a new EscapeScenario(sourceClass, targetClass) and then add that to a list

[restive turret]

seems reasonable and easy to impl i guess

[bright vine]

the annoying part is, to check which zone it is, you have to check by center or size

[hearty shard]

i mean

[bright vine]

but at least its not complicated

[hearty shard]

the basegame zone is stored

[bright vine]

so im not complaining

[hearty shard]

you could just

zone == Escape.EscapeZone

no ?

for custom do the same but check your own

[restive turret]

Zone is sent by here

[bright vine]

how does the keybind system work