#plugins-dev-chat | SCP: Secret Laboratory | Page 135

true cedar Sep 30, 2025, 2:15 AM

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WHY THE FUCK IS THIS TAKING ME TO https://pawslee.github.io/RueI/~/markdown/introduction AND NOT https://pawslee.github.io/RueI/markdown/introduction.html??? my top-level toc.yml is configured nearly identically to how they do it in the examples:

- name: Docs
  href: markdown/
- name: API
  href: api/

the api button works

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what the fuck it works now.

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 2:19 AM

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also you can link two items by giving them the same serial :3

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 2:20 AM

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I'm just trying to figure out if there's one event I can subscribe to that runs anytime a pickup is created

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And same with destroyed

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ItemPickupBase.OnPickupAdded isn't it

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OnServerPickupCreated isn't it

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Why is this such a complicated endeavor

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 2:22 AM

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slate flume ItemPickupBase.OnPickupAdded isn't it

I thought maybe this wasn't working because the serials were different but no

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It just doesn't work

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OnPickupAdded and OnPickupDestroyed triggers AddPickup and RemovePickup for the Pickup wrapper which calls the PickupCreated and PickupDestroyed events

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Do I need to like

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Patch ServerCreatePIckup or something

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What the hell is going on

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Maybe I can patch the generic UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate for only ItemPickupBase types and do it that way?

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 2:39 AM

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slate flume ItemPickupBase.OnPickupAdded isn't it

you could try patching ItemPickupBase.Awake although idk if it would work since its virtual(and overriden in derived classes)

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 2:40 AM

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When making a pickup, do most places use InventoryExtensions?

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 2:40 AM

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are you interested in the temp pickups(the ones created when switching roles that last less then a frame) or the ones dropped when too many items are in the inventory?

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 2:41 AM

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The permanent pickups

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 2:41 AM

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oh weird that doesnt work

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 2:41 AM

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Well because it doesn't run when, for instance, a player drops an item

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 2:41 AM

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ItemPickupBase.OnPickupAdded is called in start so it should be called for your case

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 2:42 AM

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.OnPickupAdded is what calls the LabAPI event OnServerPickupCreated

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 2:42 AM

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yeah

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 2:42 AM

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OnServerPickupCreated doesn't grab items when a player drops an item

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It doesn't get called

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 2:44 AM

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to me that sounds like a major issue, and iirc it was working for all pickup drop cases we know of

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do you have EXILED installed

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 2:44 AM

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No

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I mean you can give it a test yourself, I just assumed that was intended behavior

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 2:45 AM

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intended? all wrappers should grab all instance except prefabs

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 2:47 AM

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Well I'm pretty sure it's in Pickup.List and stuff it just isn't added by OnPickupAdded

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Feel free to try it yourself

public override void OnServerPickupCreated(PickupCreatedEventArgs ev)
{
    Logger.Info(ev.Pickup.Serial);
}

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 2:49 AM

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slate flume Feel free to try it yourself ```c# public override void OnServerPickupCreated(Pi...

i remember this being reported awhile back but that isnt called when the pickup gets wrapped before ItemPickupBase.Start is called. thought it was already fixed but i guess not

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 2:50 AM

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slate flume ItemPickupBase.OnPickupAdded isn't it

im more wondering what is going on here

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 2:50 AM

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OnPickupAdded is what calls OnServerPickupCreated

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If OnServerPickupCreated isn't getting all the items then OnPickupAdded for sure isn't

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And I tried

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 2:51 AM

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slate flume If OnServerPickupCreated isn't getting all the items then OnPickupAdded for sure...

no, OnPickupAdded is called for all items, but OnServerPickupCreated isnt due to a bug

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 2:52 AM

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Don't know what to tell you, cause I tried it, maybe serial just isn't assigned when OnPickupAdded is called?

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I can try adding delay

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 2:52 AM

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slate flume Don't know what to tell you, cause I tried it, maybe serial just isn't assigned ...

hmm, would be strange as Start is called in a delayed fashion so its kinda expected that everything is ready at that point

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reason that i dont quite believe that OnPickupAdded isnt called is because its a unity called method, which is basically relied uppon for everything and is guaranteed to run. now that not to say the event isnt running, maybe some sort of error is happening in the derived overrides thats causes it to not run the base, but thats literally the only way this could break and you would see it in the LocalAdminLogs

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^ or a broken patch on ItemPickupBase.Start but im guessing you would know if that were the case

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 2:56 AM

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Let me throw a couple seconds of delay on the check and try it

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Same result

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protected internal virtual void SpawnPickupLight(ItemPickupBase pickup)
{
  Timing.CallDelayed(2f, () =>
  {
    if (!CustomItemData.TryGetValue(pickup.Info.Serial, out LightSourceToy? light) || light != null)
      return;
    LightSourceToy pickupLight = LightSourceToy.Create(pickup.transform, false);
    pickupLight.Intensity = 0.4f;
    pickupLight.Color = PickupLightColor;
    pickupLight.Spawn();
    CustomItemData[pickup.Info.Serial] = pickupLight;
  });
}

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public override void OnServerWaitingForPlayers()
{
  ItemPickupBase.OnPickupAdded += SpawnPickupLight;
}
public override void OnServerRoundRestarted()
{
  ItemPickupBase.OnPickupAdded -= SpawnPickupLight;
  CustomItemData.Clear();
}

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It works when I use the spawn command to spawn a custom item, but not when I give myself a custom item and then drop it

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 3:07 AM

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slate flume ```c# protected internal virtual void SpawnPickupLight(ItemPickupBase pickup) { ...

if you logged the serial was it the expected value

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 3:08 AM

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worthy rune if you logged the serial was it the expected value

I can log the serial, but I'll have to add some extra code so it doesn't run until the round starts

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I'll lyk I'm about to test

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 3:10 AM

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slate flume ```c# protected internal virtual void SpawnPickupLight(ItemPickupBase pickup) { ...

also wondering you return early if CustomItemData doesn't contain the serial, when you add an item to a players inventory directly are you adding an entry to CustomItemData

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 3:12 AM

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worthy rune also wondering you return early if ``CustomItemData`` doesn't contain the serial...

Yes I am

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It could just be the serial isn't as expected when dropping it

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But that would be odd

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 3:21 AM

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yeah, just double checked the code and it should be the same serial, and is set right after instantiation

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 3:25 AM

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I mean it could be that there's a temp pickup that spawns with the same serial and that causes a light to be spawned on the temp item, preventing spawning on the perm item?

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Let me trying removing the check if there's a light already spawned

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 3:25 AM

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slate flume I mean it could be that there's a temp pickup that spawns with the same serial a...

i can see that happening for the case of escaping

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 3:33 AM

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slate flume Let me trying removing the check if there's a light already spawned

This didn't work

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I'm adding more logging and trying again

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Well wait

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This is even more odd

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I think you're right that it's an error on my part @worthy rune but I'm very confused

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So

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 3:36 AM

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yeah not sure the issue, it is very confusing

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 3:36 AM

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I did
public override void OnPlayerDroppingItem(PlayerDroppingItemEventArgs ev)
{
Logger.Info(ev.Item.Serial);
Logger.Info(CustomItemData.ContainsKey(ev.Item.Serial));
}

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And it logged serial correct, said my dictionary contained it, all that

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But then in OnPickupAdded, the serial was still the same, but it said my dictionary didn't contain it

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That's the confusing bit

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Hm

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The only time I remove items from the dictionary currently is when I clear it at the end of the round

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 3:38 AM

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slate flume I did public override void OnPlayerDroppingItem(PlayerDroppingItemEventArgs ev) ...

was the light contained in CustomItemData also null

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 3:39 AM

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CustomItemData didn't contain the serial

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So there was no light value to check

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 3:39 AM

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ahh

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 3:39 AM

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Why

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Is it doing this

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 3:39 AM

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i missread that mb

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 3:39 AM

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All good lol

true cedar Sep 30, 2025, 3:40 AM

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psssstttttt

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ruei v3 is out :3

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 3:52 AM

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Okay wait it literally just fixed itself

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I'm just gonna say my prayers and hope it stays unbroken

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I have no idea how it fixed but it did

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 3:53 AM

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lmao

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 3:53 AM

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Let me restart the server and see if it keeps working

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Well holy shit

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Look at that

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It's like magic

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I'm shocked right now

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Idek how it happened

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It's beautiful

agile tartan Sep 30, 2025, 4:01 AM

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How can I configure a firearm attachment from plugin?

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 4:06 AM

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agile tartan How can I configure a firearm attachment from plugin?

something like this should work Firearm.AttachmentCode = Firearm.ValidateAttachmentsCode(attachments...)

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 4:14 AM

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does anyone have any idea how this thing was generated?

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from MER discord

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 4:16 AM

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you can code an image to texttoy text converter pretty easily\

static meteor Sep 30, 2025, 4:33 AM

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teal junco does anyone have any idea how this thing was generated?

https://discord.com/channels/947849283514814486/1415402802515279892

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 4:33 AM

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its 3d

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hm

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ur lowkey right i didnt even think of using the texture to text toy converter

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I think it's possible, I just need to take a bajillion cross sections

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or like

true cedar Sep 30, 2025, 4:35 AM

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shit i forgot to make a class i should've made static static

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 4:35 AM

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a few.

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 4:35 AM

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true cedar shit i forgot to make a class i should've made static static

im gonna instantiate it

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ooooooh

true cedar Sep 30, 2025, 4:36 AM

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technically its a breaking change if i make it static

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but idgaf

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 4:42 AM

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teal junco does anyone have any idea how this thing was generated?

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 5:05 AM

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teal junco

Crazy so they made that out of text?

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If you look closely, the texturing itself is a 2d thing that was placed on top of a primitive

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That's actually really creative

pine parcel Sep 30, 2025, 5:11 AM

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Is there anyway to get cause of death from PlayerDeathEventArgs? My thought was DamageHandler, but I can't find any property that has cause of death

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 5:14 AM

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pine parcel Is there anyway to get cause of death from `PlayerDeathEventArgs`? My thought wa...

What cause of death are you looking for

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And for what purpose

pine parcel Sep 30, 2025, 5:15 AM

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falldown, tesla, or custom handler. Looking to do actions based on why someone died. I saw the PlayerStatsSystem.DeathTranslations, and I'd love to use those in my checking system

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 5:16 AM

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Check if ev.DamageHandler is UniversalDamageHandler handler and then check the handler.TranslationId against DeathTranslations.{CauseOfDeath}.Id

pine parcel Sep 30, 2025, 5:16 AM

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I'll give that a go, thanks!

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 5:16 AM

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Of course! GoodOne

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 5:23 AM

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slate flume Maybe I can patch the generic UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate for only ItemPickup...

Do NOT

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 5:24 AM

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upper vapor Do NOT

YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT I CAN OR CAN'T DO

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 5:26 AM

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Patch deez

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Also pickup and item should have the same serial if dropped or picked up

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 5:28 AM

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slate flume YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT I CAN OR CAN'T DO

You can't even patch generic methods lol

worn gull Sep 30, 2025, 5:28 AM

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Good morning chat

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 5:28 AM

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upper vapor You can't even patch generic methods lol

You can patch specific types of generic methods

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Which was the point of my comment

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 5:29 AM

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No you can't patch generic methods

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 5:29 AM

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upper vapor No you can't patch generic methods

I'll prove it right now ong

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If I'm wrong that's gonna be so embarrassing for me but I wanna try it

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 5:30 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-laughing-gif-lol-funny-loud-laugh-gif-7926424135311815001

Tenor

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 5:31 AM

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Okay I might be delulu

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Generic type data will be lost though

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So you need an instance check

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However, don't patch instantiate anyway

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 5:32 AM

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Patch awake or start

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 5:33 AM

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restive turret Patch awake or start

Yeah riptide pointed it out

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But the original issue has been fixed already

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 5:33 AM

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Patch Update instead

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 5:34 AM

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Patch life

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toomuchtrolling

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 5:34 AM

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Can't

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 5:34 AM

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notLikeThis

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 5:41 AM

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@upper vapor I just patched a generic method 😁

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My idea worked

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You were a doubter

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And no, I'm not joking

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 5:44 AM

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9 out of 10 programmers quit before they make their patch working

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 5:44 AM

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public static MethodBase TargetMethod()
{
    var instantiateMethods = typeof(Object)
        .GetMethods(BindingFlags.Public | BindingFlags.Static)
        .Where(m => m.Name == "Instantiate" 
                    && m.IsGenericMethodDefinition 
                    && m.GetParameters().Length == 3);

    foreach (var method in instantiateMethods)
    {
        var parameters = method.GetParameters();
        if (parameters[0].ParameterType.IsGenericParameter &&
            parameters[1].ParameterType == typeof(Vector3) &&
            parameters[2].ParameterType == typeof(Quaternion))
            return method.MakeGenericMethod(typeof(ItemPickupBase));
    }

    throw new Exception("Could not find Instantiate method");
}

public static void Prefix(ItemPickupBase original, Vector3 position, Quaternion rotation, ref ItemPickupBase __result)
{
    Logger.Info($"Instantiating {original.name} at {position}");
}

public static void Postfix(ItemPickupBase original, Vector3 position, Quaternion rotation, ref ItemPickupBase __result)
{
    Logger.Info($"Instantiated object: {__result.name}");
}

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[2025-09-30 00:42:49.514 -05:00] [INFO] [SodaPlugin] Instantiated object: Light Armor Pickup(Clone)
[2025-09-30 00:42:49.569 -05:00] [INFO] [SodaPlugin] Instantiating Combat Armor Pickup at (141.56, -99.61, 52.83)
[2025-09-30 00:42:49.601 -05:00] [INFO] [SodaPlugin] Instantiated object: Combat Armor Pickup(Clone)
[2025-09-30 00:42:49.646 -05:00] [INFO] [SodaPlugin] Instantiating FlashbangPickup at (141.45, -98.82, 54.43)
[2025-09-30 00:42:49.662 -05:00] [INFO] [SodaPlugin] Instantiated object: FlashbangPickup(Clone)
[2025-09-30 00:42:49.678 -05:00] [INFO] [SodaPlugin] Instantiating FlashbangPickup at (141.45, -98.82, 54.43)
[2025-09-30 00:42:49.693 -05:00] [INFO] [SodaPlugin] Instantiated object: FlashbangPickup(Clone)
[2025-09-30 00:42:49.709 -05:00] [INFO] [SodaPlugin] Instantiating FlashbangPickup at (141.45, -98.82, 54.43)
[2025-09-30 00:42:49.737 -05:00] [INFO] [SodaPlugin] Instantiated object: FlashbangPickup(Clone)
[2025-09-30 00:42:49.752 -05:00] [INFO] [SodaPlugin] Instantiating Ammo9mmPickup at (141.45, -98.82, 53.65)
[2025-09-30 00:42:49.768 -05:00] [INFO] [SodaPlugin] Instantiated object: Ammo9mmPickup(Clone)
[2025-09-30 00:42:49.784 -05:00] [INFO] [SodaPlugin] Instantiating Ammo9mmPickup at (141.45, -98.82, 53.65)

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Anyways I don't even need to use any of this

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Cause my problem is already solved lmao

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But I did it to prove a point

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 5:49 AM

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slate flume <@435474959595208704> I just patched a generic method 😁

#plugins-dev-chat message

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 5:49 AM

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upper vapor https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1274617943258566726/142245568211...

Well I didn't see that cause I was busy patching a generic method lmao

pulsar locust Sep 30, 2025, 5:49 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1297952694467559425/1422141710628290610/attachment.gif

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 5:49 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/chatgpt-answer-discord-dialogue-bubble-gif-7361262541660310659

Tenor

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 5:58 AM

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slate flume https://tenor.com/view/chatgpt-answer-discord-dialogue-bubble-gif-73612625416603...

xdd

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 6:03 AM

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pulsar locust https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1297952694467559425/1422141710628290610/a...

Wtf

pulsar locust Sep 30, 2025, 6:04 AM

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I found that on the Godot proposal for union types lol

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So I turned it into a speech bubble

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 6:05 AM

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I mean gdscript isn't the best and limiting everyone around it but this rust comment just

pulsar locust Sep 30, 2025, 6:06 AM

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Not really no
Gdscript has enough language features to where it works good for literally anything in engine

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if you want more complex stuff though like binding an external library a gdextension or ffi through C# is required

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Also the fmod gdextension stinks and I'm probably gonna pr some new signals and docs

cosmic hedge Sep 30, 2025, 6:26 AM

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magic

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 6:27 AM

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#1422413098958065715 i wake up seeing this, am i in another dimension??

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 6:29 AM

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celest thorn <#1422413098958065715> i wake up seeing this, am i in another dimension??

yes

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 6:29 AM

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cosmic hedge magic

how tf did you calculate that skullbutreal

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 6:30 AM

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upper vapor yes

so which earth is this?

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 6:30 AM

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idk

cosmic hedge Sep 30, 2025, 6:30 AM

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upper vapor how tf did you calculate that <:skullbutreal:1216947519779766282>

the saved time is 12 seconds 869 milliseconds

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 6:30 AM

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the earth where ruei is out?

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and nothing else changed?

cosmic hedge Sep 30, 2025, 6:30 AM

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first pic is 1 minute 24

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 7:09 AM

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celest thorn so which earth is this?

C-137

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 7:09 AM

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restive turret C-137

Woah

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cool reference

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 7:21 AM

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Thanks

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Definitely not me re-learning how OSI model works for the 6th time

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Funny how I only learned the layers by a Hungarian swearing. It nearly makes a word for it

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 7:24 AM

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restive turret Funny how I only learned the layers by a Hungarian swearing. It nearly makes a w...

XDDD

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 7:26 AM

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FAHSzEMA

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 7:27 AM

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why does that sound like it's pronounced in an asian accent

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 7:28 AM

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Lel

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 9:52 AM

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anyone knows what the shot rejected error 1.0 means??

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i cannot find reference anywhere about it but its what causing everyone complains

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:01 AM

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Idk

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:04 AM

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celest thorn anyone knows what the shot rejected error 1.0 means??

3 mins

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:04 AM

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unique crane 3 mins

ok

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:04 AM

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celest thorn ok

Which gun

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:05 AM

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unique crane Which gun

any gun

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has this error

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of 1.0

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:05 AM

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celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:06 AM

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unique crane

Why does it happen? like why its there a timed out and its so frequent?

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:07 AM

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Seems like that happens when your firing full auto

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And ping spikes or idk

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Would have to ask hubert

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:08 AM

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idk i would probably get automoted if i ping hubert

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so thats why im asking

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:10 AM

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So I see

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it rejects any message that may have been send within way too short intervals

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:11 AM

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unique crane it rejects any message that may have been send within way too short intervals

yea

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i see that myself on the server

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:11 AM

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So I asume lag spikes does that

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:11 AM

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unique crane So I asume lag spikes does that

yea

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:11 AM

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well

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there is your answer

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It will be 5 dollars

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:11 AM

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Im getting so many people complaining to me in dms about it, and my answer is Complain to NW

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and not to me

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lol

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im not a nw dev and i cannot do shit

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:11 AM

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You can, actually

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patch it if its too low for you

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:12 AM

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unique crane patch it if its too low for you

I mean i could but its not in MY servers

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they got this issue

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:12 AM

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Report it as a bug then

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:12 AM

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unique crane Report it as a bug then

I think a guy i know already did

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:12 AM

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very well

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:13 AM

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unique crane very well

#scp-discussion message

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:14 AM

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Anyways back to bugfixing after horde of new QA testers has arrived

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:15 AM

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unique crane Anyways back to bugfixing after horde of new QA testers has arrived

Have fun

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:15 AM

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celest thorn Have fun

no

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:15 AM

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crazy bugs or just minor ones?

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:15 AM

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5 approve

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another 1 comes in

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he finds bug

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i fix

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:16 AM

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unique crane another 1 comes in

Maybe one of them is mine

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:16 AM

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another one comes in

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:16 AM

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i reported a big one again

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:16 AM

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no

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im fixing spectator list

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:16 AM

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Lol

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scientist crashing my client with 10gb log file

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:16 AM

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Its your sending some invalid data arent you

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that mirror doesnt like

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:17 AM

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unique crane Its your sending some invalid data arent you

no

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i found it by spawning

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idk how tf i found it but with near perfect timing you can make it happen

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which i randomly found

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:23 AM

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Did you check out White Knuckle btw

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they added shortcuts to the new area

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through harder to climb but shorter passages

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:24 AM

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celest thorn scientist crashing my client with 10gb log file

Have you actually checked what's in there or

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:25 AM

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restive turret Have you actually checked what's in there or

yea i did

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i reported it

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:25 AM

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Nice

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Zero

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:26 AM

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it got closed down

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and merged with another report

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https://git.scpslgame.com/northwood-qa/scpsl-bug-reporting/-/issues/1818

GitLab

[SCP1576] Invalid Operation Exception Spam (#1818) · Issues · Nor...

Version: 14.1.3 Branch: Release (stable) branch Timestamp: 2025/08/12 06:13:06 Server Name: NWOS Canada 1

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:27 AM

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Gahaja

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Zero

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:29 AM

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restive turret Zero

?

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:30 AM

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Did you do anything with rui

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:30 AM

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restive turret Did you do anything with rui

what do you mean?

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:30 AM

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*ruel

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:30 AM

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like using it?

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yes

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i do

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:30 AM

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Ye

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Does it work?

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:30 AM

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yea

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it works fine

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:31 AM

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Are you testing on live server with 20+ player?

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:31 AM

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and from my debugger pov its the lowest plugin for performance

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:31 AM

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restive turret Are you testing on live server with 20+ player?

no but i tested it on an heavily modded server with custom maps and everything

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and performance don't seem shit

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instead too good

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and i tried with dummies too

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:31 AM

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Nice

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 10:32 AM

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slime!!!

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:32 AM

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@warped prairie maybe we should switch to ruel, i pray for you to implement and add it 🙏

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:33 AM

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hearty shard slime!!!

Yes

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:33 AM

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restive turret <@480886562587148288> maybe we should switch to ruel, i pray for you to implemen...

Its EASY

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not too complicated

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 10:33 AM

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restive turret <@480886562587148288> maybe we should switch to ruel, i pray for you to implemen...

maybe

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:34 AM

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celest thorn not too complicated

He is the guy who wanted it and started, i don't wanna touch it unless it's necessary

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:34 AM

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restive turret He is the guy who wanted it and started, i don't wanna touch it unless it's nece...

crazy

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:34 AM

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Eve

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 10:34 AM

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restive turret Eve

thats me

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:35 AM

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Why are you sending me pic of shark

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:35 AM

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restive turret Eve

Evil

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 10:35 AM

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Shark

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:35 AM

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restive turret Why are you sending me pic of shark

crazy

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:39 AM

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Zero

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 10:39 AM

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shark

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:44 AM

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restive turret Zero

?

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Tell me

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Just ping me trust me

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:46 AM

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I just waiting until 13:40

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Idk what to do

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:48 AM

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restive turret Idk what to do

idk im waiting for preparing food

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 10:48 AM

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restive turret I just waiting until 13:40

what for

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:49 AM

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For asking my prof about the thesis

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Then go home

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 10:49 AM

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restive turret Idk what to do

commit a crime

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:49 AM

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Already did, next

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:50 AM

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restive turret For asking my prof about the thesis

go ask the prof what he thinks about beans into toast

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:50 AM

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Waiting for actually prof open for questions

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:51 AM

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restive turret Waiting for actually prof open for questions

They should open suggestions

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:51 AM

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My suggestion is to ditch JavaScript

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And java

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:51 AM

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restive turret My suggestion is to ditch JavaScript

And use webassembly

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:51 AM

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Just don't do web

icy knoll Sep 30, 2025, 10:53 AM

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restive turret Just don't do web

i have been summoned

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:54 AM

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icy knoll i have been summoned

go back where you came from

icy knoll Sep 30, 2025, 10:54 AM

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@ lucid!!!!!

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:55 AM

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icy knoll i have been summoned

I don't like the web

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I rather to apis and stuff

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Rather than that

icy knoll Sep 30, 2025, 10:55 AM

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im a full stack dev, but prefer front end development

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typescript is pretty fun

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:55 AM

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Does anyone remember

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:55 AM

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I prefer my end to be soon

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:55 AM

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when was the last time when you were spectating someone and that person died

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it switched you to the next one

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:56 AM

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Idk

icy knoll Sep 30, 2025, 10:56 AM

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last time i played sl

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that happened

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so

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uh

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3 days ago?

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:56 AM

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5 days ago

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 10:56 AM

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unique crane when was the last time when you were spectating someone and that person died

isnt that current feature

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:56 AM

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Well I dont mean instantly

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after 5 seconds

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:56 AM

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Yes

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:56 AM

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Not that you died

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but you were spectating someone

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and that person died

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:57 AM

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Wait nvm that's when i died

icy knoll Sep 30, 2025, 10:57 AM

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oh

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no it's instant

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not 5 seconds

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:57 AM

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Well thats a bug

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but like

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After 5 seconds

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before last update

icy knoll Sep 30, 2025, 10:57 AM

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i swear that got fixed in QA

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:57 AM

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Yea im doing the qa trial build

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but like

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Im looking at code

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and there is NO code that does that

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:57 AM

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And you don't understand it

icy knoll Sep 30, 2025, 10:57 AM

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wth

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 10:57 AM

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It only switches when you die

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Even in the initial implementation

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where it is supposed to be

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Im either blind or it just doesnt do that

icy knoll Sep 30, 2025, 10:59 AM

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well

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hopefully you get a fix

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:59 AM

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Sorry this is now a feature instead of a bug

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 11:02 AM

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I love sentencing dummies to Pit Death effect

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to test dying

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 11:03 AM

#

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 11:05 AM

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Next time im using you eve

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 11:06 AM

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unique crane Next time im using you eve

WHAT

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 11:07 AM

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Real

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 11:08 AM

#

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 11:11 AM

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unique crane Next time im using you eve

Woah

true cedar Sep 30, 2025, 11:17 AM

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hearty shard

bitch

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 11:17 AM

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true cedar bitch

what the hell

true cedar Sep 30, 2025, 11:18 AM

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bitch mcbitch

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 11:27 AM

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restive turret *ruel

There's no l

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 11:27 AM

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L

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 11:28 AM

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celest thorn go ask the prof what he thinks about beans into toast

Troll

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 11:29 AM

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true cedar bitch mcbitch

New McDonald's special?

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 11:30 AM

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unique crane After 5 seconds

Does it refresh invalid spectator target anywhere?

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 11:57 AM

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https://i.e-z.host/🐀/d163ni1m.png
Unemployement level

🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀🐀

NotZer0Two

d163ni1m.png 🐀

Check out this new 🐀

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 12:20 PM

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SteamHappy finally talked to prof he said I can write it in blazor

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:20 PM

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restive turret <:SteamHappy:1157333712950800497> finally talked to prof he said I can write it ...

can you quit instead

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 12:21 PM

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No

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Atleast not in java

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:21 PM

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make it in assembly

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https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-meme-no-cat-no-cat-nuh-uh-nuh-uh-gif-5478596456695677807

Tenor

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 12:30 PM

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celest thorn https://i.e-z.host/🐀/d163ni1m.png Unemployement level

Not enough

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 12:31 PM

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restive turret <:SteamHappy:1157333712950800497> finally talked to prof he said I can write it ...

YIPPEE

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 12:39 PM

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Thank u ax

warped prairie Sep 30, 2025, 12:40 PM

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restive turret <@480886562587148288> maybe we should switch to ruel, i pray for you to implemen...

I’ll consider it. I just killed myself doing the other one. Maybe

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:41 PM

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git gud

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 12:41 PM

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Tag zero or lumi, paws, eve about it , they use it so

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ClassDTroll1

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:41 PM

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it isnt that difficult

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 12:42 PM

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Idk I didn't see the code nor example

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:42 PM

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there is no example

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Trol

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 12:42 PM

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Fear

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U cooked

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:43 PM

#

#

there u go though

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thats it

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well actually

icy knoll Sep 30, 2025, 12:44 PM

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wait wtf how did you do an extension property

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:44 PM

#

icy knoll Sep 30, 2025, 12:44 PM

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c# ver?

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:44 PM

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14

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 12:44 PM

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It needs 10

icy knoll Sep 30, 2025, 12:45 PM

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never seen it before

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:45 PM

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technically preview

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but 14 also should work

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 12:45 PM

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icy knoll never seen it before

Need to install .net10

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:45 PM

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restive turret Need to install .net10

9 has it

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 12:45 PM

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No

icy knoll Sep 30, 2025, 12:45 PM

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restive turret Need to install .net10

ah that may be why im unable to use c# 14

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:45 PM

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im on 9

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 12:46 PM

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I'm on 9 too

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:46 PM

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9.0.305

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 12:46 PM

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But latest is 13

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:46 PM

#

hearty shard 9.0.305

this

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 12:46 PM

#

This

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:46 PM

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is 9

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 12:46 PM

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Will check

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:46 PM

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and thus it works

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10 should also work tho

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 12:46 PM

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I'm on a bus

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:46 PM

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no ur not

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 12:46 PM

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10 should have it

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:46 PM

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also rider needs an update for it

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 12:46 PM

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hearty shard no ur not

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:47 PM

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2025.2

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 12:47 PM

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hearty shard also rider needs an update for it

I don't use rider

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:47 PM

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well

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good

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or bad

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who knows

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rider doesnt like when you put docs onto extensions

true cedar Sep 30, 2025, 12:47 PM

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hey eve

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did u see

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ruei v3

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:47 PM

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no i didnt

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well i have it

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but

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what changed

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i didnt check

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 12:47 PM

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hearty shard i didnt check

The version

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Duh

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 12:48 PM

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yea but

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difference between beta and this

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 12:52 PM

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restive turret Thank u ax

Np

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Blazor is cool

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The haters can maldnall they want

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 12:52 PM

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restive turret But latest is 13

Preview version

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LangVersion preview

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 12:55 PM

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Ah

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 12:55 PM

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Fortnite

true cedar Sep 30, 2025, 12:57 PM

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hearty shard difference between beta and this

not too much

royal mica Sep 30, 2025, 1:00 PM

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upper vapor Blazor is cool

I was about to shit on Blazor then I remembered Blazor != Razor

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C# devs and library naming

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 1:00 PM

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royal mica C# devs and library naming

C# devs...

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 1:01 PM

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royal mica I was about to shit on Blazor then I remembered Blazor != Razor

Blazor is [.., Razor, ..]

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toomuchtrolling

royal mica Sep 30, 2025, 1:02 PM

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Yes, but in Blazor (as I can see) you technically create normal components

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In plain Razor you vomit all of the fucking place

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half of your HTML code is C#

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in a html file

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I fucking hate it

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 1:03 PM

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royal mica In plain Razor you vomit all of the fucking place

Xd
Did you mean
Razor Pages
Or the Razor file extension

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 1:03 PM

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royal mica half of your HTML code is C#

That's kind of what we do in Blazor

royal mica Sep 30, 2025, 1:03 PM

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yes but that is structured and expected in components where UI code is there

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in cshtml Razor files you are literally vomit business logic and shit

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cause it's easier

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than adhering to the MVC

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 1:04 PM

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Ah cshtml

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Well

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Just define stuff in a different class

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Problem solved

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 1:04 PM

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royal mica than adhering to the MVC

Just use MVVM

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shrug

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Or

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Don't have a ui

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Smart

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 1:06 PM

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royal mica in cshtml Razor files you are literally vomit business logic and shit

I'm pretty sure you can create a .cs file with the same name and use that for defining functions and stuff

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Business logic doesn't belong in the rendering layer

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 1:17 PM

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To implement the auto spectator switch

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i had to fix the null ref for spectators

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so thats fixed too XD

limber silo Sep 30, 2025, 1:34 PM

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Fix boy fix

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 1:35 PM

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limber silo Fix boy fix

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 1:54 PM

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unique crane i had to fix the null ref for spectators

David did you fix the Scp1576SpectatorIconEffect.UpdateVisibility error?

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or something else

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because i got it once again but this time idk how

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And I found a new bug?

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Exception in Subcontroller RPC handler for SubcontrollerRpcMessage (PlayerID=6 Role=Scp3114 Length=1 Payload=[01 @ 1/1])
IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.

Someone has ever reported this?

#

just found it in my logs there randomly

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:19 PM

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royal mica half of your HTML code is C#

i mean

#

it's just like PHP

royal mica Sep 30, 2025, 3:20 PM

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Yes and I utterly hate PHP as well :D

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:20 PM

#

also

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blazor kinda sucks too

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but that's cuz of how it works

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 3:21 PM

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atleast better than doing it in fucking JAVA

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:21 PM

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cuz blazor is clientside

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and in wasm

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so your website

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becomes a huge wasm blob

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that takes ages to load

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 3:22 PM

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tbh i dont really care about that, they wanted webapp, i refuse to do it in java, so blazor or razor or whatever

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:22 PM

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why java

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 3:23 PM

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because that was originally set as default

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either you do it in java and spring , or java

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or idk

royal mica Sep 30, 2025, 3:23 PM

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java's most popular option is spring yeah

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You can also just opt in using a frontend framework + any backend lol

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 3:25 PM

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and i did not wanna do frontend

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thats it

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I hate working with any , ANY UI

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:25 PM

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i mean

royal mica Sep 30, 2025, 3:25 PM

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How else would you do a webapp lmao

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:25 PM

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pretty much any UI that isn't single platform sucks

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 3:25 PM

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make it in Unity

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XDDDD

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:25 PM

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unique crane make it in Unity

fun fact

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there are

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apps that do that

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 3:26 PM

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Unity web player

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will be in our hearts

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 3:26 PM

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still wasm

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:26 PM

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And Epic Games Store is in Unreal Engine kek

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 3:26 PM

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so i be on back to sqaure 0

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 3:26 PM

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glad pagoda And Epic Games Store is in Unreal Engine <:kek:1414590414123696308>

what

royal mica Sep 30, 2025, 3:26 PM

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Desktop app UI is a pain, unless you are using multiplatform, like Flutter or Compose (those are pain as well, but not as much)
WebUI is not that painful, but you need to learn a lot of shit to get efficient at it

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:26 PM

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unique crane what

yeha

#

it's UE

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 3:26 PM

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wtf

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:26 PM

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with CEF thrown in

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 3:26 PM

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I dont believe you

royal mica Sep 30, 2025, 3:26 PM

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or do a lot of manual work if vanilla HTML+(S)CSS+(T/J)S

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 3:27 PM

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royal mica Desktop app UI is a pain, unless you are using multiplatform, like Flutter or Co...

FUCK UI apps

#

embrace console menus

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 3:27 PM

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this guy get it

royal mica Sep 30, 2025, 3:27 PM

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glad pagoda with CEF thrown in

Wait, WHAAAT?! UE with CEF?!

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:27 PM

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unique crane I dont believe you

if you crash you get the Unreal Engine. Your game has crashed! popup lol

royal mica Sep 30, 2025, 3:27 PM

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WHAT THE FUCK?!

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:27 PM

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yes, it says game kek

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 3:27 PM

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Lets make next RA version only console

royal mica Sep 30, 2025, 3:27 PM

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So it is just a web exported game that is running in a CEF wrapper

#

holy fuck the future for desktop apps is fucked

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:28 PM

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royal mica So it is just a web exported game that is running in a CEF wrapper

no

royal mica Sep 30, 2025, 3:28 PM

#

I lvoe running chromium apps for everything

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:28 PM

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it's a desktop game

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with CEF embedded for rendering the store

royal mica Sep 30, 2025, 3:28 PM

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why the fuck does it need a CEF then

#

ah

#

that is still cursed

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:28 PM

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cuz the store and such is a website

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 3:28 PM

#

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:28 PM

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Steam works the same

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 3:28 PM

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aha

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:28 PM

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just steam isn't in UE

royal mica Sep 30, 2025, 3:28 PM

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Aren't steam fully a CEF webapp?!

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:29 PM

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well it's CEF embedded in a native app

#

the m,enus are native

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afair this whole part is native

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and stuff below is CEF

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 3:29 PM

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bring back VGUI

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:29 PM

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@royal mica but

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wanna learn the most cursed thing?

royal mica Sep 30, 2025, 3:29 PM

#

The Steam client on Windows, Linux, and macOS previously a customized version of CEF to render web content like the Store and Community. As of June 15, 2023, the entire UI was remade with web technologies and is now rendered using CEF, replacing the old VGUI interface. VGUI was not completely removed, and was kept just in case CEF stops working correctly, telling users to restart Steam, or to warn users that Windows compatibility mode is enabled.

#

Actually, the whole UI is now in CEF

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:30 PM

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royal mica Actually, the whole UI is now in CEF

i mean afair they mean all but the top bar

#

but I think that might've been separate, not VGUI before

#

@royal mica@restive turret every tile separate chromium?

#

https://tenor.com/view/trollface-gif-8242347154758580084

Tenor

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 3:31 PM

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fucking dies

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 3:32 PM

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glad pagoda <@132136706378956800><@590224743542554630> every tile separate chromium?

what

#

what

#

and what

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:33 PM

#

unique crane what

https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9wzdncrfhwcn?hl=en-US&gl=US

Microsoft Store - Download apps, games & more for your Windows PC

Microsoft Minesweeper - Free download and play on Windows | Microso...

Keep your mind sharp in Microsoft Minesweeper! Use logic and strategy to clear the board without triggering a mine. Sweep through the original and iconic Minesweeper game now UPDATED with NEW Themes, Play Modes, more Daily Challenges, Achievements, and ALL-NEW Auto -Chording. It's FUN for all ages!

CLASSIC MODE:
The original Minesweeper you...

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 3:33 PM

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Some intern did that 100%

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:33 PM

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TrollDespair

#

@unique crane@royal mica@restive turretstill the funniest thing with Epic store:

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they never learned about patch updates pretty sure

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they always redownload whole files

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so if a game is packed into 10GB packs

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and devs change 1 char

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you'll get a few kB update on Steam

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but 10GB on Epic kek

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 3:38 PM

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I still have no idea why they use 10GB packs

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:38 PM

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faster IO and such

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 3:38 PM

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faster on my ass yes

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HDD dying over here

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:38 PM

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reading small files is MUCH slower

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even on HDDs it's slower

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 3:38 PM

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but still

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 3:38 PM

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hello :3

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 3:38 PM

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I complaining about a 50GB

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like bro

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10 gig aint much but 50??

royal mica Sep 30, 2025, 3:39 PM

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glad pagoda i mean afair they mean all but the top bar

Sadly nope. The whole thing is CEF

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:39 PM

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how tf do you open inspect element in steam

royal mica Sep 30, 2025, 3:39 PM

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you need to start with steam -dev

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:40 PM

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royal mica Sadly nope. The whole thing is CEF

and the top top bar?

royal mica Sep 30, 2025, 3:40 PM

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and then you can do CTRL+SHIFT+I

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:40 PM

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with Steam View Friends

royal mica Sep 30, 2025, 3:40 PM

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Everything

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:41 PM

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royal mica Everything

smh should've done Steamed hams

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:44 PM

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royal mica Sadly nope. The whole thing is CEF

but also I mean

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CEF somehow works 20x faster than Electron at least

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not sure how

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but I guess Electron fucks something up with their Chromium

royal mica Sep 30, 2025, 3:45 PM

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classic

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:45 PM

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only thing is whenm Chromium GPU acceleratino randomly breaks lol

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funfact

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chromium "hardware workarounds" config autodisables GPU acceleration on Intel iGPUs kek

rough tundra Sep 30, 2025, 3:51 PM

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How to change 079's level with labapi?

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Scp079Role.Level does not exist

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 3:51 PM

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rough tundra Scp079Role.Level does not exist

get the tier manager

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:52 PM

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@unique crane btw

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wanna see copilot having an ace attorney breakdown? kek

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https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/pull/120099#issuecomment-3344350552

GitHub

Update [GeneratedRegex] analyzer/fixer for partial properties by Co...

Final Implementation Status
✅ Implementation Complete
Successfully implemented partial property support for the UpgradeToGeneratedRegexCodeFixer. The implementation modernizes the regex analyzer/fi...

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 3:53 PM

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rough tundra Scp079Role.Level does not exist

Scp079Role scp079 = null!;
            scp079.SubroutineModule.TryGetSubroutine(out Scp079TierManager tierManager);
            tierManager.

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youll have to figure out how basegame handles it from there

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 3:53 PM

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tf is that

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:54 PM

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unique crane tf is that

tf is what

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 3:54 PM

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glad pagoda https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/pull/120099#issuecomment-3344350552

this

rough tundra Sep 30, 2025, 3:54 PM

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thank you very much

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:54 PM

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unique crane this

copilot having a breakdown

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 3:55 PM

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I have to turn off copilot every VS update

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otherwise it just makes shit up when I want to write SL code

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:56 PM

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unique crane otherwise it just makes shit up when I want to write SL code

btw I guess

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AC contains bits of AI code now kek

rough tundra Sep 30, 2025, 3:57 PM

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it's readonly 😭

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 3:57 PM

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rough tundra it's readonly 😭

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 3:58 PM

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rough tundra it's readonly 😭

AccessTierIndex

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or TotalExp

rough tundra Sep 30, 2025, 3:58 PM

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well I can edit the index

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 3:58 PM

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ya

rough tundra Sep 30, 2025, 3:58 PM

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yes

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mb

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 3:58 PM

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gotta publicize

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 3:58 PM

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glad pagoda AC contains bits of AI code now <:kek:1414590414123696308>

Not a big deal

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 3:58 PM

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glad pagoda AC contains bits of AI code now <:kek:1414590414123696308>

guh

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cant believe NW is using AI

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 3:59 PM

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Says the AI here

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 3:59 PM

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shhh

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u cant expose me like that

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:59 PM

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unique crane Not a big deal

it's only like 1 helper I couldn't be bothered to write though kek

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 3:59 PM

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glad pagoda it's only like 1 helper I couldn't be bothered to write though <:kek:14145904141...

wowwww

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show Trol

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 3:59 PM

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I never directly paste AI outputs

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with one exceptions

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I can never be bothered to deal with PowerShell syntax BS

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 4:00 PM

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GiggleHehe

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 4:00 PM

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hearty shard u cant expose me like that

Silence and write me a recipe for pumpkin soup

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 4:00 PM

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i once

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spent 4 hours

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fighting the SL ci

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cuz of powershell syntax being weird

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and strings randomly turning to arrays

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 4:01 PM

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thats microsoft

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or yaml

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 4:01 PM

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Powershell 😭

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 4:01 PM

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for context the CI is a powershell 7 script written in yaml

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the industry standard kek

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ngl

unique crane Sep 30, 2025, 4:02 PM

#

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 4:02 PM

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not even sure why everyone just decided to use yaml for CIs

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 4:02 PM

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such a monstrocity

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https://www.arp242.net/yaml-config.html

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 4:04 PM

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unique crane

chari

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 4:10 PM

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restive turret chari

it's The Chair

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 4:10 PM

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the chair

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 4:12 PM

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restive turret the chair

for context

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it was just a random stock asset kek

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iirc we later fixed and remade it as our own model

glad pagoda Sep 30, 2025, 4:12 PM

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glad pagoda it was just a random stock asset <:kek:1414590414123696308>

but iirc it had like 60k tris

lethal cradle Sep 30, 2025, 4:19 PM

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glad pagoda And Epic Games Store is in Unreal Engine <:kek:1414590414123696308>

isnt that like insanely inefficient 😭

tepid sluice Sep 30, 2025, 4:23 PM

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ruei v3 is out

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SteamHappy

true cedar Sep 30, 2025, 4:26 PM

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tepid sluice <:SteamHappy:1157333712950800497>

yas

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 4:47 PM

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tepid sluice ruei v3 is out

yay

spare zodiac Sep 30, 2025, 4:53 PM

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upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 6:05 PM

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glad pagoda cuz blazor is clientside

blazor server:

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https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-gif-24496241

Tenor

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 6:05 PM

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royal mica Desktop app UI is a pain, unless you are using multiplatform, like Flutter or Co...

avalonia

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 6:06 PM

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unique crane Lets make next RA version only console

YES

upper vapor Sep 30, 2025, 6:08 PM

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unique crane I have to turn off copilot every VS update

XXXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDD

plain gazelle Sep 30, 2025, 6:26 PM

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OnItemRemoved isnt triggered with the Map Cleanup modifier

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Stare

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 6:27 PM

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plain gazelle OnItemRemoved isnt triggered with the Map Cleanup modifier

its for items not pickups

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its called when an itembase is destroyed

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or do you mean another event that isnt ItemBase.OnItemRemoved

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use ItemPickupBase.OnPickupDestroyed

plain gazelle Sep 30, 2025, 6:29 PM

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OHHHH okay that makes sense

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thankies

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<3

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 6:57 PM

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Okay so I wanted to change the role that appears when you hover over a player, so I could support custom teams and stuff
I was looking at
https://github.com/icedchai/omni-plugins-pub/blob/abridged-dev/Omni-Utils/extensions/PlayerExtensions.cs#L131
And was wondering if the best way to do it really is to fully remake the info text, or if it would be possible to change just the part I want

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 6:58 PM

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nah hide role and show your own

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but ofc CustomInfo is above Nickname not below (like role)

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so youll have to handle player name + \n + role

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 7:01 PM

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So

Change Network_playerInfoToShow to hide role and name
Change custom info to show modified name and role

plain gazelle Sep 30, 2025, 7:08 PM

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I have an issue where i subscribe to PlayerEvents.DroppedItem and in it, do a check for an item serial and if it matches, i save the Transform of the Pickup and in a Static Unity Update method, i set a Schematic to that Transforms location.

But if i ever throw such a valid item, afterwards, no item can ever be thrown again. They all drop straight down.
But that is only visually, client side, for everyone. The server still thinks the item has been thrown.

Once i pick up the special item and my code no longer runs the update method, items can be thrown again

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HUH

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me no understand

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 7:11 PM

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plain gazelle I have an issue where i subscribe to PlayerEvents.DroppedItem and in it, do a ch...

So when you drop an item, you spawn a schematic on it
And this prevents any other item from being dropped until you despawn the schematic?

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Show code

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GoodOne

plain gazelle Sep 30, 2025, 7:12 PM

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The schematic always exists, never despawns.
If picked up, it follows the player and if dropped it follows the Pickup

#

#

#

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Found the issue

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firRly

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No clue how that breaks all client side Pickup throws but eh, fixed

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 7:31 PM

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slate flume So 1. Change Network_playerInfoToShow to hide role and name 2. Change custom inf...

I recommend handling it with extensions

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also i can share my newer implementation that's cleaner AND supports custominfo and stuff better

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 7:32 PM

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plain gazelle No clue how that breaks all client side Pickup throws but eh, fixed

sOwner null there is no owner.scale

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 7:39 PM

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teal junco also i can share my newer implementation that's cleaner AND supports custominfo ...

Sure

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 7:45 PM

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restive turret sOwner null there is no owner.scale

Ur null

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 8:11 PM

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Hello :3

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 8:18 PM

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hi

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 8:27 PM

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Okay what the hell

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I run a simple cycle thing

private IEnumerator<float> LightRoutine(LightSourceToy light)
{
  while (light.GameObject)
  {
    light.Color = PickupLightColor;
    light.Intensity = 1;
    yield return Timing.WaitForSeconds(10f);
    light.Intensity = 0;
    yield return Timing.WaitForSeconds(5f);
    light.Color = Color.magenta;
    light.Intensity = 0.4f;
    yield return Timing.WaitForSeconds(2f);
  }
}

For some reason the first run-through works fine, but on the second loop, the intensity says it's 1, but it stays the same brightness as the 0.4

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 8:28 PM

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yield return Timing.WaitForSeconds(1f);
before light color set?

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 8:28 PM

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I tried doing a Timing.WaitForSeconds(0.1f) between Color and Intensity change, had no effect

#

Interesting

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I removed the light.Intensity = 0.4f bit and had the same issue

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Which is odd

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Could it be that when a light is spawned, it's high-intensity, but registers as an intensity of 1?

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Causing the intensity to not update when you change the sync var because it thinks it's already at that intensity

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Until you change it from that intensity and back again

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I think my hypothesis was right

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Before spawning the light, I changed the intensity to 0
Now on the first loop the light is as dim as it is on future loops

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So I believe when first spawning a light, the intensity is falsely registered as 1, when it's actually a higher value

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Does this mean I need to report another LabAPI issue? why

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 8:38 PM

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This has been an issue, I lowkey never thought to report it

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yes, when light sources are spawned, their intensity is falsely reported as 1

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and setting the intensity to 10 actually decreases it lmao

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 8:38 PM

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That's fucked up man

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Who even wrote this garbage anyways

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 8:39 PM

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whoever added light sources to SL

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 8:39 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/crying-crying-boy-listening-to-music-music-headphones-gif-12065362834235824624

Tenor

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 8:40 PM

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teal junco yes, when light sources are spawned, their intensity is falsely reported as 1

it might be the other way around though? or just something weird with SL's renderer. because the lights in the MER unity scene are way brighter than they are in SL, maybe the intensity is "worth" less

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but yeah, setting it to something else and back to 1 does not reverse the operatio

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 8:41 PM

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Am I really about to do some bullshit like light.Intensity = 100 because the scale is all fucked up

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Well I did

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And it works

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But I'm upset about it

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 9:16 PM

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I think I'm gonna make an extension member for the Decontamination wrapper that's just Decontamination.Offset + Decontamination.RoundStartTime - Decontamination.ServerTime so I can cleanly have Decontamination.RemainingTime

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Wait

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Does that work for static classes?

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No it doesn't

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Nvm I'm just making my own bullshit

#

I'm getting really upset with LabAPI today

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 9:30 PM

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@slate flume
https://github.com/icedchai/PlayerUtils

Files of interest
Patches/PlayerNicknameSyncPatch.cs
Features/Extensions/PlayerExtensions.cs
Events/Handlers/PlayerEventHandlers.cs:131
It's basically the same thing as the omni thing but I imagine a little bit cleaner/easier to read. does require Harmony though.

GitHub

GitHub - icedchai/PlayerUtils: icedchqi's Hell's Kitchen player uti...

icedchqi's Hell's Kitchen player utilities. Contribute to icedchai/PlayerUtils development by creating an account on GitHub.

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 9:32 PM

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Dope this is what I'm already doing haha

#

public static void UpdatePlayerInfo(Player player)
{
  NicknameSync nickSync = player.ReferenceHub.nicknameSync;
  nickSync.ShownPlayerInfo |= PlayerInfoArea.CustomInfo;
  nickSync.ShownPlayerInfo &= ~(PlayerInfoArea.Role | PlayerInfoArea.Nickname);
  nickSync.CustomPlayerInfo = $"{nickSync.DisplayName}\n{GetRoleName(player, false)}";
}

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Then GetRoleName is where I do my fun parsing code

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I thought the &= was odd in your original code cause it wiped the rest of the flags

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So I did |= and had built the rest around basic shit

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 9:42 PM

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&= ~ is removing flags, yes it looks ugly

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 9:44 PM

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restive turret &= ~ is removing flags, yes it looks ugly

You're misunderstanding

#

He originally had
nickSync.ShownPlayerInfo &= PlayerInfoArea.CustomInfo;

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 9:45 PM

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Oh lol

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 9:45 PM

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Which is why I said

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 9:45 PM

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Sorry misread

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 9:45 PM

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All good brother

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You know

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I hate the discord message limit

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When I'm writing a changelog I always hit the like 2000 character limit

#

It's such bullshit

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 9:46 PM

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Ye its easy to hit

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 9:46 PM

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Literally the only reason I'm considering scrounging for a better nitro key

#

That shit pmo

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:05 PM

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I dont like nitro tbh

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 10:13 PM

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slate flume ```c# public static void UpdatePlayerInfo(Player player) { NicknameSync nickSy...

you still ought to do something about custominfo

#

to preserve the functionality. i mean unless you absolutely dont care about it

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 10:15 PM

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teal junco you still ought to do something about custominfo

I mean I literally do nothing with custominfo

#

The only time it's set base-game is by a plugin, and the only plugin that will be changing it on the server I dev for is my own

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So if I end up needing custominfo for something, I can cross that bridge when I get there, but as of right now I don't have any need for it

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 10:16 PM

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I just patch the setter so if any other plugin uses it it wont completely fuck it up.

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 10:16 PM

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slate flume So if I end up needing custominfo for something, I can cross that bridge when I ...

thats fair i guess

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 10:17 PM

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teal junco I just patch the setter so if any other plugin uses it it wont completely fuck i...

Also I think muting people sets cinfo?

#

i might be wrong

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 10:17 PM

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teal junco Also I think muting people sets cinfo?

Muting client-side or server-side?

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 10:17 PM

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slate flume Muting client-side or server-side?

server side

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might just be a plugin

#

but it must be a common one

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 10:18 PM

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Ohh you're right

#

Fuck

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Alright

#

This is gonna be a bitch and a half to set up

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:29 PM

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slate flume ```c# public static void UpdatePlayerInfo(Player player) { NicknameSync nickSy...

Wait i just realized.
The nicknameSync stuff is not exposed in labapi?

hearty shard Sep 30, 2025, 10:30 PM

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restive turret Wait i just realized. The nicknameSync stuff is not exposed in labapi?

I do believe it is

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 10:30 PM

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restive turret Wait i just realized. The nicknameSync stuff is not exposed in labapi?

You can do like player.Nickname

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 10:30 PM

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I patched basegame stuff just to catch everything

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personally

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So if Exiled or LabAPI or some weirdo who uses reference hubs comes along, it handles everything.

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wait i dont think im thinking of the same thing you are nvm

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 10:31 PM

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restive turret Wait i just realized. The nicknameSync stuff is not exposed in labapi?

it mostly is i believe

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:32 PM

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teal junco So if Exiled or LabAPI or some weirdo who uses reference hubs comes along, it ha...

Sadge.
I mean idk if others will use it but might be good idea to let others append in custom info i guess

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I do it too

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 10:34 PM

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sigmer

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:35 PM

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Did you know

#

That the [hub] = value is actually doing the same thing as add?

#

You still inserting it in the background so

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:36 PM

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Can someone explain to me what the fuck is wrong with this?

    public override void OnPlayerPickingUpItem(PlayerPickingUpItemEventArgs ev)
    {
        if (ev.Pickup is not KeycardPickup pickup)
            return;
    }

Im picking up a Zone Manager and yes the even triggers

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:37 PM

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Log ev pickup, ev pickup type

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Like .GetType()

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 10:39 PM

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restive turret That the [hub] = value is actually doing the same thing as add?

oh cool

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:39 PM

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restive turret Log ev pickup, ev pickup type

        if (ServerSpecificSettingsSync.TryGetSettingOfUser(
            ev.Player.ReferenceHub,
            Plugin.Instance.Config!.SSSKey + 1,
            out SSPlaintextSetting labelSetting))
            return;

I think this is the issue?

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because after this no logs

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 10:39 PM

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ive had issues working with lists and dicts before so i always just go over the top

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:40 PM

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Oh i forgot lol "!"

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 10:40 PM

#

with unnecessary stupid code

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:40 PM

#

!!

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:40 PM

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teal junco with unnecessary stupid code

Dw i had more stupid code

#

It's always better to improve

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:40 PM

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my code is perfect!?!??!?!

#

Trolley

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:42 PM

#

ClassDTrollHD

#

My code is like my vision

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 10:43 PM

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celest thorn Can someone explain to me what the fuck is wrong with this? ```c# public ove...

What do you mean what's wrong?

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:43 PM

#

Blurry, full of dots

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 10:43 PM

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You do nothing in that code

#

I'm confused as to what your question is

celest thorn Sep 30, 2025, 10:43 PM

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slate flume What do you mean what's wrong?

i forgot a "!" in the SSS

slate flume Sep 30, 2025, 10:43 PM

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Good job GoodOne

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 10:43 PM

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SteamHappy

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 11:00 PM

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restive turret That the [hub] = value is actually doing the same thing as add?

Youre wrong bro 😭 i immediately started getting errors thrown

#

And I remembered the exact reason why I do it this way

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 11:00 PM

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teal junco Youre wrong bro 😭 i immediately started getting errors thrown

Huh

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 11:00 PM

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I somehow forgot about item with the same key has been added

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i did

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 11:01 PM

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restive turret Huh

unless i misread it

#

oh i may have misread it the wrong way around

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 11:01 PM

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What is your code that you got errors?

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 11:01 PM

#

😭

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 11:01 PM

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restive turret What is your code that you got errors?

.Add(hub, string)

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 11:01 PM

#

Guhh

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 11:01 PM

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i read it the wrong way around

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 11:02 PM

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Do
[Hub] = string

#

oh yes if you want to append DO NOT DO +=

#

because when yo do it it didn't exist before

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 11:02 PM

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restive turret oh yes if you want to append DO NOT DO +=

did i do that somewhere i forgot

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 11:02 PM

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If already existing its fine

#

If its not sadly you cannot do it

restive turret Sep 30, 2025, 11:03 PM

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restive turret Do [Hub] = string

So ye change to this

#

And should work

teal junco Sep 30, 2025, 11:04 PM

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is there a way for me to flush a player's preference on a SS Plain text

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i want it to be per-session instead of permanent

worthy rune Sep 30, 2025, 11:51 PM

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teal junco is there a way for me to flush a player's preference on a SS Plain text

thats the text box one right?

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if you dont want to save the value on the client set ServerOnly to true in the constructor

cyan crown Oct 1, 2025, 12:01 AM

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;

pallid galleon Oct 1, 2025, 1:22 AM

#

();

slate flume Oct 1, 2025, 1:38 AM

#

So @upper vapor @celest thorn you guys did this stuff
Why is this not working
When I move players, it looks smooth for other players on the client, but not for the client itself
(eg. the movements of everyone but themselves is smoothed)
Is this an artifact of just how this system works or is that something I can fix?

teal junco Oct 1, 2025, 3:45 AM

#

i found out u can change fonts and i feel super enlightened

slate flume Oct 1, 2025, 4:13 AM

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teal junco i found out u can change fonts and i feel super enlightened

The Minecraft font is actually peak

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:33 AM

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slate flume So <@435474959595208704> <@642642727237845041> you guys did this stuff Why is th...

Wait for zero lol
I never implemented it, just said the approach I'd take
Btw you should probably optimize the lookup of waypoints, it's a dictionary after all

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:33 AM

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teal junco i found out u can change fonts and i feel super enlightened

Me when LabApiProperties.CompiledVersion is not the compiled version

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:35 AM

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slate flume I run a simple cycle thing ```c# private IEnumerator<float> LightRoutine(LightSo...

Is this the labapi wrapper?

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:35 AM

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teal junco yes, when light sources are spawned, their intensity is falsely reported as 1

Ain't no way boi

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:36 AM

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slate flume No it doesn't

Yes it does

slate flume Oct 1, 2025, 4:36 AM

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upper vapor Wait for zero lol I never implemented it, just said the approach I'd take Btw yo...

Yeah it was moreso so I could slap it into my existing implementation without changing the code

slate flume Oct 1, 2025, 4:36 AM

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upper vapor Is this the labapi wrapper?

Yes

slate flume Oct 1, 2025, 4:36 AM

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upper vapor Yes it does

New C# 14 thing?

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Are we even able to use C# 14 in projects yet

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:37 AM

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restive turret That the [hub] = value is actually doing the same thing as add?

Easiest optimization

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:39 AM

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slate flume New C# 14 thing?

Yes

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:39 AM

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slate flume Are we even able to use C# 14 in projects yet

Yes

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LangVersion preview

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:39 AM

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slate flume Yes

It would be funny if it didn't set the sync var properly toomuchtrolling

slate flume Oct 1, 2025, 4:40 AM

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upper vapor LangVersion preview

Oh that's why

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I tried before and got this error

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:40 AM

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Make sure your Rider is on the latest version btw
-# eve spent an ungodly amount of time on this

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:40 AM

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slate flume I tried before and got this error

Huh

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You need the .NET 9 SDK

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Or 10 preview

slate flume Oct 1, 2025, 4:41 AM

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upper vapor You need the .NET 9 SDK

No I just needed to change to preview instead of 14.0

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I have the .NET 9 SDK already

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:41 AM

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Uh
Which version of net9

slate flume Oct 1, 2025, 4:41 AM

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C# 14.0 shows up in my language versions in rider

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:41 AM

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slate flume No I just needed to change to preview instead of 14.0

Why do people write .0 after lang version though, it's so unnecessary 😭

slate flume Oct 1, 2025, 4:41 AM

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I was able to select it

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It just didn't build

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:42 AM

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Oh it's a rider thing

slate flume Oct 1, 2025, 4:42 AM

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upper vapor Why do people write .0 after lang version though, it's so unnecessary 😭

Habit

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:42 AM

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Check dotnet --list-sdks

slate flume Oct 1, 2025, 4:43 AM

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Well I don't have 9.0.305 so let me install the latest

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:43 AM

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Yeah that should fix it

slate flume Oct 1, 2025, 4:44 AM

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Static extension members about to go crazy

slate flume Oct 1, 2025, 4:45 AM

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upper vapor Yeah that should fix it

No, same issue

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Do you use C# 14.0 in rider?

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Or the preview?

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:46 AM

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Preview

slate flume Oct 1, 2025, 4:46 AM

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upper vapor Preview

Oh well then why did you send me down this rabbit hole

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Lmao

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:46 AM

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Bruh

slate flume Oct 1, 2025, 4:46 AM

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I told you

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:47 AM

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upper vapor LangVersion preview

.

slate flume Oct 1, 2025, 4:47 AM

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Yes

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You misunderstood my comment

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:47 AM

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And it's not working still?

slate flume Oct 1, 2025, 4:47 AM

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Stop for a second

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:47 AM

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Wha the fucky

slate flume Oct 1, 2025, 4:47 AM

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And listen to me

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When I said "Oh that's why" to your LangVersion preview comment I meant "Oh that's why C# 14.0 wasn't working, I had selected 14.0 language version and not the preview"

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Once I selected the preview I had no problems

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Then you started making these comments as if preview was the thing that wasn't working

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So I assumed you meant that C# 14.0 selection should've worked

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:48 AM

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slate flume Then you started making these comments as if preview was the thing that wasn't w...

When did I say that

slate flume Oct 1, 2025, 4:49 AM

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Literally right after I made my comment

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The comment I made was saying that when I tried C# 14.0 I got that error and that using preview does work

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That's why I said "Oh that's why"

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And mentioned my previous issue

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Then when you started correcting and saying I needed updated Rider, SDKs, I assumed that meant you were saying C# 14.0 was supposed to work, because otherwise why would I need to worry about updating everything

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Am I making sense

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:54 AM

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Yeah I forgor that 14 doesn't work with net9 (I always used preview)

restive turret Oct 1, 2025, 4:54 AM

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Install.net10andyouhave14

upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 4:55 AM

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So I thought you had net8 installed

restive turret Oct 1, 2025, 4:56 AM

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. net10 is on rc1 so soon™ will be released

slate flume Oct 1, 2025, 5:00 AM

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upper vapor So I thought you had net8 installed

Well I have both

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Cause I'm cool and awesome

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😎

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upper vapor Oct 1, 2025, 5:03 AM

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restive turret . net10 is on rc1 so soon™ will be released

About a month left still

celest thorn Oct 1, 2025, 5:22 AM

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Anyone knows how can i get the permission of a card from the pickup

spare zodiac Oct 1, 2025, 5:28 AM

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Is reason why we don't have textures on primitives that the .Material is not networked?

teal junco Oct 1, 2025, 5:29 AM

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spare zodiac Is reason why we don't have textures on primitives that the .Material is not net...

I think the reason is because NW hasn't chosen to add it

teal junco Oct 1, 2025, 5:29 AM

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celest thorn Anyone knows how can i get the permission of a card from the pickup

Can you do Item.Get(Pickup) and try casting to KeycardItem?

celest thorn Oct 1, 2025, 5:30 AM

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Oh wait no

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It does

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Im stupid i read now item

teal junco Oct 1, 2025, 5:30 AM

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Trolled

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Mic Drop

spare zodiac Oct 1, 2025, 5:31 AM

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teal junco I think the reason is because NW hasn't chosen to add it

with the new builds and how NW is making the map more and more quality looking then just primitives with one color will not be usable

teal junco Oct 1, 2025, 5:32 AM

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spare zodiac with the new builds and how NW is making the map more and more quality looking t...

Of course, but I'm just saying that I don't think there is a technical limitation preventing them from adding textures

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If I was told to do it, I might do something like an enum or ID system, and the client simply reads the enum/ID and applies the corresponding texture

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The material does not have to be directly networked. In fact the color property already exists and I don't think it directly concerns the material

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at least in the network sense.

teal junco Oct 1, 2025, 5:34 AM

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spare zodiac with the new builds and how NW is making the map more and more quality looking t...

I hope texture primitives & prop admintoys are added

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prop admintoys would be fire because it finally means we can treat the props like primitives (Parent RPC)

spare zodiac Oct 1, 2025, 5:36 AM

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https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/160

GitHub

[IDEA] Add textures for primitives · Issue #160 · northwood-studi...

Goal Description The idea is to allow the use of textures from the game client for primitives. The server can send a message to the client about which texture of the game needs to be added to the p...

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we trust the process

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🙏

celest thorn Oct 1, 2025, 5:38 AM

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teal junco Can you do Item.Get(Pickup) and try casting to KeycardItem?

nope doesn't work at all

unique crane Oct 1, 2025, 5:38 AM

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celest thorn nope doesn't work at all

Check how does base game do it

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When you throw keycard and it collides with door

celest thorn Oct 1, 2025, 5:38 AM

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unique crane Check how does base game do it

Base game doesn't do shit just checks the door

unique crane Oct 1, 2025, 5:38 AM

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Reader

pulsar locust Oct 1, 2025, 5:38 AM

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unique crane Check how does base game do it

Base game more like base gay, gottem

celest thorn Oct 1, 2025, 5:38 AM

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im not even kidding the door does the hard work

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the card has nothing

unique crane Oct 1, 2025, 5:39 AM

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pulsar locust Base game more like base gay, gottem

Sentenced to QA

pulsar locust Oct 1, 2025, 5:39 AM

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celest thorn the card has nothing

That's basically how it's been ever since keycards were added?

celest thorn Oct 1, 2025, 5:39 AM

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pulsar locust That's basically how it's been ever since keycards were added?

yea

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the pickup has nothing lol

pulsar locust Oct 1, 2025, 5:40 AM

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It's not a question I'm just confused because I'd expect that knowledge to have gone around a bit more

unique crane Oct 1, 2025, 5:40 AM

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CheckPermissions?

pulsar locust Oct 1, 2025, 5:40 AM

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Check how the door does it then

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lol

teal junco Oct 1, 2025, 5:40 AM

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celest thorn https://i.e-z.host/🐀/h91mngsf.png

u cant check DoorVariant class checkpermission?

celest thorn Oct 1, 2025, 5:40 AM

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unique crane CheckPermissions?

it needs a door

teal junco Oct 1, 2025, 5:40 AM

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celest thorn it needs a door

What exactly is it doing that needs a DoorVariant specifically

pulsar locust Oct 1, 2025, 5:40 AM

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celest thorn it needs a door

Look at the contents of check permission and nicely yoink the code minus the door requirement

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pulsar locust Oct 1, 2025, 5:41 AM

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Just keep walking the tree

celest thorn Oct 1, 2025, 5:41 AM

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From the player it gets it

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bruh

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No wait

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where tf is this thing going

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lol

pulsar locust Oct 1, 2025, 5:42 AM

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Ah C# class inheritance

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If you hit a mono behaviour that means it's most likely on a prefab

teal junco Oct 1, 2025, 5:42 AM

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pulsar locust Just keep walking the tree

I checked, it runs on literal magic. Sorry, youre out of luck.

celest thorn Oct 1, 2025, 5:43 AM

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How tf did nw implement this

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god

pulsar locust Oct 1, 2025, 5:43 AM

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unique crane Sentenced to QA

That's it, you're putting on the programmer thigh highs

unique crane Oct 1, 2025, 5:44 AM

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At least it it wont be cold

spare zodiac Oct 1, 2025, 5:44 AM

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celest thorn How tf did nw implement this

better question is why

pulsar locust Oct 1, 2025, 5:44 AM

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I've heard thigh highs are very comfy
I wish I owned a pair 😔

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unique crane Oct 1, 2025, 5:44 AM

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I dont think they are expensive

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its just long socks

celest thorn Oct 1, 2025, 5:44 AM

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unique crane At least it it wont be cold

Yea they provide alot of heat

celest thorn Oct 1, 2025, 5:44 AM

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unique crane I dont think they are expensive

nah

pulsar locust Oct 1, 2025, 5:45 AM

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unique crane I dont think they are expensive

Oh the issue is not that they're expensive it's just that I legitimately cannot express myself irl

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I love being incredibly closeted yippee /s

unique crane Oct 1, 2025, 5:45 AM

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Where do you live

spare zodiac Oct 1, 2025, 5:45 AM

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What is your social number

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this is crazy

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this is the most complicated shit ever

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why?

teal junco Oct 1, 2025, 5:46 AM

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pulsar locust I love being incredibly closeted yippee /s

Giga based, never express yourself even at your own detriment ọ.ọ

celest thorn Oct 1, 2025, 5:46 AM

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not directly in the pickup

pulsar locust Oct 1, 2025, 5:46 AM

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Damn I now have an Autodesk student account

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I wonder if it includes maya

spare zodiac Oct 1, 2025, 5:46 AM

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celest thorn this is the most complicated shit ever

NW hates simplicity sometimes

celest thorn Oct 1, 2025, 5:46 AM

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fr