land animation isn't working and transiton between sprint , run and slow walk is fucked
#plugins-dev-chat
grand flower
death
restive turret
wdym
restive turret
then do 32 bytes
restive turret
Joining the world
upper vapor
Joining the world
I would've alt+f4'd during world generation
grand flower
lol
warped prairie
corrupted files
soft depot
If I wanted to prioritize a WaypointToy to be used for a particular player (not all players) how would I accomplish this? Is there an event / method that's called every time the player moves? It's hard to tell where the best place to put a prefix / postfix would be considering there's also the movement tracer thing that's supposed to limit player movements (to stop cheaters) and idek how that incorporates into it all
grand flower
You're going to nuke your server performance 
But the FpcPositionDistributor should handle that
in theory
grand flower
SL but every player model is wet
cyan crown
SL but every player model is wet
ok give me a sec
grand flower
i mean it already looks that way lmao
grand flower
rip
soft depot
You're going to nuke your server performance <:mmLul:405879229033742377> But the...
do clients have authority over which waypoint they're under or no? If so, why is priority networked, cuz I think if I faked the priority value my idea would work
grand flower
No clue
I don't work for northwood and haven't checked the clientside code
new player exceptions
hearty shard
do clients have authority over which waypoint they're under or no? If so, why is...
priority is networked because client does it too
afaik
client finds where it needs to go since yk... its seeing itself
and server checks if thats correct and ofc places it correct for everyone else
well
i dont think client tells server
true cedar
do u ever see something and ur shocked it works
hearty shard
its more of just it SHOULD always be the same
true cedar
thats me rn
soft depot
well client sends a RelativePosition which contains a waypointId
soft depot
do u ever see something and ur shocked it works
yea, I felt that when I was prototyping ASS, cuz I was doing a lot more mirror shenanigans than I should 😭
I also felt it recently but I cant elaborate further for an event concerning the server I develop for
grand flower
dunno if this would cause a disconnect
but the player's complaining about randomly being soft disconnected from the server
no other player is getting this
hearty shard
well client sends a RelativePosition which contains a waypointId
yea thats where it claims to be
cyan crown
i hate it i actualy hate it
hearty shard
server checks if its able to be there
cyan crown
hearty shard
but also places it on the waypoint itself
soft depot
so then if I fake a waypoints priority to be super high, only that client will want to be on that waypoint?
hearty shard
so then if I fake a waypoints priority to be super high, only that client will w...
probably
but server might disagree with it
true cedar
https://medal.tv/games/scp-secret-laboratory/clips/lbpKVVyyxkdqF66u5
rn it doesn't support two animated positions at once (i don't even know how possible that is ngl) but
i think this is a good start
grand flower
@swift nexus apologies for the ping, have you seen something like this before?
It's the only thing this player has and generally around the time they get disconnected
The logs don't say anything about a disconnect though, and they're the only player to report this ever, nobody else has had this
soft depot
If I were to destroy a NetworkIdentity with other NIs parented to the first, would the children get destroyed as well?
grand flower
likely yes
soft depot
destroying a primitive with text toys parented to it
restive turret
Then destoy the primitive itself
soft depot
ye
restive turret
Not the netid object
soft depot
but I'm expecting the text toys to be destroyed as well without me having to deal with it
restive turret
NetworkServer.Destroy(yeet)
true cedar
https://medal.tv/games/scp-secret-laboratory/clips/lbpKVVyyxkdqF66u5
@hearty shard look
true cedar
die
soft depot
<@1180466630191501363> look
isnt that just the animation curve hint parameter inside a TMP tag?
true cedar
well yea but like
it integrates with ruei's vertical positioning system
u can see how it doesn't disrupt the position of the other elements
soft depot
that's pretty neat
I could prolly rig HSM to do the same if I ever implemented the one idea I had for hint parameters for HSM
true cedar
it was very tedious to do
soft depot
the parameters or the vertical positioning?
true cedar
the vertical positioning
warped prairie
justworkplease()
restive turret
KillSlime()
hearty shard
soft depot
https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/281 guys is this suggestion good?
true cedar
well
mild walrus
there is an option for restart on empty in the server config?
like restarting the round
mild walrus
idk why but sometimes in my server ppl disconnects and the round stays there with no people, and i checked that round lock is not enabled
hearty shard
idk why but sometimes in my server ppl disconnects and the round stays there wit...
check if ur config has end round on one player disabled
Gameplay config same as the rest
hearty shard
check if ur config has end round on one player disabled
Although this is for 1 player not 0
mild walrus
it is
hearty shard
turn it on
hearty shard
i dont think itll fix it but yk it will fix it if only 1 person is there
Idk what else you could have other than a plugin preventing round end
mild walrus
i dont think itll fix it but yk it will fix it if only 1 person is there
it may work
last time i joined the round time was 1560:56
true cedar
eve
worthy rune
maybe the constructors should be internal
im pretty sure, if you just sent the same parameter each time it will remain in sync, as its network.time synced by default
true cedar
im pretty sure, if you just sent the same parameter each time it will remain in ...
r u sure
worthy rune
yes
true cedar
how does it know which parameter to store the time for
worthy rune
can i see, i only skimmed over the chat
true cedar
for one i need different parameters to have different offsets
since u might add elements at different times
and also u said it uses NetworkTime.time, but the issue is that
say you show a hint with a parameter and then send the hint again
its gonna reset
worthy rune
for one i need different parameters to have different offsets
thats like "{0} {1}", [param1, param2] yeah?
true cedar
no as in
true cedar
since u might add elements at different times
.
worthy rune
your refereing to voffset/pos?
true cedar
offsets as in time offsets
element in this context basically is just like
a hint in ruei
each element can have its own animated parameters, ruei combines all the elements into one
worthy rune
if you need to send a hint, and dont want the animation curve to reset, keep the offset(the one in the animation curve) the same as the last time you sent it
true cedar
huh
soft depot
I'd say just use Time.networkTime in offset and send the same animation curve, but have the curve generated use Time.networkTime in it
so like the curve starts with when the parameter was created, and Time.networkTime is some value x
then when you're forced to send another hint, you send the same parameter, but now Time.networkTime is x + d
and d is just how much time has passed since it was created
so in theory it should match I think
worthy rune
yeah that wont work
soft depot
sorry NetworkTime.time, not Time.networkTime
true cedar
yeah that wont work
?
worthy rune
dont change the offset between sends
worthy rune
because thats how it works
true cedar
im so fucking confused
soft depot
but then you'd just send a new animation curve and reset it
worthy rune
what offset does in the animationCurveHintParam is determine the starting time of the animation
true cedar
yes i know thats the point
worthy rune
if you want it to always be in sync, keep the starting time the same between sends and it will just work
alright ill explain it another way
soft depot
oh btw I think this is ping btw paws
worthy rune
the animation curve has no state, its just taking the NetworkTime.time of the client taking of the offset and samping the curve. so if you think about it, to keep it from reseting you need to send the same data and todo that you need to keep the offset the same
soft depot
oh btw I think this is ping btw paws
actually I think this is intended cast, idrk mirror tbh
worthy rune
rrt is ping yeah
soft depot
he's not wrong, the update method does use NetworkTime.time
so in theory the curve only updates when the server and client update their times
true cedar
ohhh
worthy rune
UpdateState is called everyframe iirc, thats what samples the curve to animate it on the client
soft depot
I didn't even know how this parameter even worked so sorry if I said anything stupid
true cedar
well shit now i need to get rid of all the code that saves it
soft depot
well shit now i need to get rid of all the code that saves it
I mean, wouldn't this have been obvious if you had to set offset to NetworkTime.time to even get the curve to play 😭
otherwise it would've just started really far into the curve right? NetworkTime.time is probably massive
true cedar
it loops
soft depot
well then wouldn't the curve have always started in a random position then?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
hope you can fix you problem or whatever now lol
true cedar
well then wouldn't the curve have always started in a random position then?
yea
ig thats why they have offset
grand flower
Yeah I'm using Luau it's awesome
Solves a few problems I had with the previous Lua plugin, downside is there is no Luau plugin for Unreal so I'll have to make my own
glad pagoda
Yeah I'm using Luau it's awesome
iirc it has no jit tho, right?
also heard that its embedding api sucks more
grand flower
iirc it has no jit tho, right?
It has optional JIT support nowadays for x64 and arm64
Having said that, Luau has been updated to include an optional JIT component for x64 and arm64 platforms. This component can compile a selected set of functions, including limiting compilation to functions or modules marked explicitly by the user. While functions can be compiled at any time, automated JIT compilation decisions based on statistics/tracing are not performed. Luau JIT takes into account the type annotations present in the source code to specialize code paths and at this time, doesn’t include runtime analysis of the types/values flowing through the program.
But they pushed performance without it anyway
grand flower
also heard that its embedding api sucks more
How so?
So far I've seen it as a lot of pros over Lua for what I'm doing
glad pagoda
don't know much myself but have a friend that tried embedding it in his own engine but then went back to normal lua and said the embedding side of luau was a total pain
grand flower
huh
Guess I'll find out
If anything I like the idea of integrating it into Unreal, sounds fun
glad pagoda
he liked the language changes though
grand flower
where
grand flower
yeah
I also like the fact they get rid of dangerous functions in the Lua library by default
less work for me
not a lot but still
the one thing I'm gonna miss is modern lua having 64-bit integer support
especially for steamids heh
would make them easy to manipulate for mods
grand flower
Lua implemented them recently enough, as a different type than number
glad pagoda
php integers are really stupid btw lol
glad pagoda
i mean it's an ID technically, not a number
it being stored as a number is just an optimization
grand flower
yeah that would've been easier
glad pagoda
php integers are really stupid btw lol
for context
php has a single integer type
that's equivalent to c# nint
you can guess how much pain that was while making centrals talk with the game 
also
the apis are made by literal lunatics
they have like
3 different methods
that do the same thing
and there's 0 difference between them
true cedar
you can guess how much pain that was while making centrals talk with the game <:...
remake it in rust
lethal cradle
upper vapor
I could prolly rig HSM to do the same if I ever implemented the one idea I had f...
Remove hsm from existence
soft depot
Remove hsm from existence
upper vapor
maybe the constructors should be internal
Publicizer: 
true cedar
Remove hsm from existence
maintaining a monopoly is too much work tho
celest thorn
Hii everyone
celest thorn
maintaining a monopoly is too much work tho
Its probably the only monopoly i support aside from the gambling & cigarettes monopoly in italy
upper vapor
Xd
grand flower
now to spend a week finding a name for my plugin
celest thorn
now to spend a week finding a name for my plugin
what does the plugin do?
grand flower
right i forgot to specify
Implementing Luau for Unreal
not SL related
all of my SL plugins are private for Bright's heh
celest thorn
all of my SL plugins are private for Bright's heh
Same and no
like past plugins i've done were public or done for other people
and now almost 99% of them private
grand flower
ULuau is boring
celest thorn
ULuau is boring
UnrealU
grand flower
UnLuau is too similar to Tencent's UnLua
celest thorn
that has no connection to Luau
LuauEngine
upper vapor
Luanreal
grand flower
UnrealScriptLab (USL)
that'd be USL heh
celest thorn
OH yea
A plugin who got reincarnated in an unreal engine realm, who finds that can be used inside fortnite.
grand flower
time to look up the word Moon in other languages until something nice pops up
celest thorn
do you like this title?
grand flower
I don't think the engine will accept a module called A plugin who got reincarnated in an unreal engine realm, who finds that can be used inside fortnite core
celest thorn
People who create isekais can
so you can
The only isekai i've ever watched was a dude who got transformed into a girl and thats it
and that was probably the last one i've ever watched (if we don't count Dragon Ball) but thats a religion
upper vapor
What are you waffling about
celest thorn
What are you waffling about
here
this is the last anime i've ever watched
without counting dragon ball
grand flower
why is finding a name for things so hard
celest thorn
why is finding a name for things so hard
just do like me find a prefix and make it descriptive
like
MeowEditor, MeowDebugger, MeowMenuSystem
upper vapor
Um
upper vapor
why is finding a name for things so hard
Ask gippity 
grand flower
mods make Axwabo stub his toe
restive turret
why is finding a name for things so hard
Just smash the keyboard
Kijuse
There you go a name for you
grand flower
jompie
grand flower
fersop
celest thorn
thats a good name
celest thorn
acrylic
grand flower
Caelum sounds nice
celest thorn
Caelum sounds nice
Calcium
grand flower
you're fired from the naming committee
upper vapor
Roekoyy
upper vapor
I do wonder how tf you created your nickname
Something like this
celest thorn
Something like this
ewvoipediogvodshve7
celest thorn
and came out Axwabo?
grand flower
sounds nice
upper vapor
and came out Axwabo?
A bit more complicated but it was random
grand flower
Lunaris it is
celest thorn
sounds nice
Tsuki?
grand flower
fits Lua(u)
celest thorn
-# I hate lua
i hate everything
celest thorn
makes sense
upper vapor
Moon in another language
Hold
grand flower
tbh it has nice stuff
celest thorn
It's Luau I'm implementing dw
its lua but safer lol
tepid sluice
upper vapor
Lua Unluad
That's what it stands for
restive turret
makes me sound like a weeb
Indeed
celest thorn
Lua Unluad
That's what it stands for
lol
celest thorn
CatU, MeowLua
grand flower
im good with Lunaris
upper vapor
CatU, MeowLua
You like cats, don't you
restive turret
The prison?
grand flower
has a nice ring to it, is unused in an Unreal context
celest thorn
You like cats, don't you
im alergic to them
upper vapor
im good with Lunaris
Cyna
grand flower
im blowing you up with my mind right now
restive turret
Nvm that was Lunar Max
celest thorn
so technically i think i should hate them but i just cannot i feel bad
upper vapor
im alergic to them
The forbidden animal
restive turret
This guy
celest thorn
but cats do kill me faster
upper vapor
im blowing you up with my mind right now
*dies of death*
restive turret
If you provoke them
celest thorn
dog its only when they loose their fur
upper vapor
Nvm that was Lunar Max
Tim Apple reference?
celest thorn
cats is almost daily
restive turret
Tim Apple reference?
MIB reference
celest thorn
Malwarebyte
upper vapor
Malwarebyte
AdwCleaner
celest thorn
AdwCleaner
CCleaner
upper vapor
cats is almost daily
Pet the car and die
celest thorn
Pet the car and die
Nah its more if a cat stays near me
upper vapor
Nah its more if a cat stays near me
celest thorn
https://tenor.com/view/hazmat-aesthetic-suit-protection-gif-9020121119701232489
yea
my dad wants to rescue the kittens
but i die
if he does
he did it and kept it hidden from me for a night
and i started dying
so i knew there was a cat or something near me
dust was out of the way, im too clean
upper vapor
They have a forcefield
celest thorn
They have a forcefield
for what i understood is like their sweat or something
that provokes it
upper vapor
Unfortunate skill points you spawned with
celest thorn
Unfortunate skill points you spawned with
like the only good thing i had in RNG was "Spawning in Italy", but still sucks ass
like idk why alot of people think italy is just what they see from pictures
if i step in a road probably that same road like 20m people died in a war or even just lived their lives
or burned a witch
upper vapor
Don't judge a book by its cover
celest thorn
Don't judge a book by its cover
trust me its not any difference
scams in rome are the same that politicians do at the EU
upper vapor
upper vapor
Pffffftttt
"Ez a projekt EU-s források felhasználásával valósult meg"
-# this project was made possible using funds from the EU
celest thorn
"Ez a projekt EU-s források felhasználásával valósult meg"
-# this project was m...
A stadium next to the prime minister house
restive turret
1 million huf
Addition; 2 cars
upper vapor
Xddd
upper vapor
1 million huf
Addition; 2 cars
Cars or carriages
celest thorn
I still do wonder why tf he built a stadium next to his house
like if you wanna sleep?
upper vapor
You know, 1 mil huf for 2 cars is not that bad of a deal
upper vapor
like if you wanna sleep?
Why would you do that if you get to watch football matches
Soccer
restive turret
Ofc cus it was from the other 3 million they got
celest thorn
Why would you do that if you get to watch football matches
crazy
celest thorn
(I'm not a sports fan)
im not either
restive turret
I'm so happy that I don't care sport events
celest thorn
I'm so happy that I don't care sport events
same
upper vapor
I'm so happy that I don't care sport events
celest thorn
i know people who do and they like attack each others
like brothers and cousins between each others
restive turret
Common in all places
upper vapor
i know people who do and they like attack each others
An escalator breaks down because there are so many people going to watch ppl kick some leather
celest thorn
lol
restive turret
An escalator breaks down because there are so many people going to watch ppl kic...
Let just say they escalated it wrongly
upper vapor
Bruh
They did
Maintenance was "yeah good enough, we don't need the safety mechanism"
Someone has their messenger notifications on rapid fire
restive turret
"safety? That's we drink or eat?"
upper vapor
"safety? That's we drink or eat?"
XDDDD
celest thorn
"safety? That's we drink or eat?"
Safety sounds yummy :3
restive turret
Ofc bc saf'e tea
restive turret
No
celest thorn
this are dad jokes
unique crane
💀
restive turret
My mind saying things that shouldn't be send here
celest thorn
dms?
lol
nowadays my dms are all strange and my website still people find way to bypass
restive turret
Oh i immediately have like atleast 3 reply with that
celest thorn
Oh i immediately have like atleast 3 reply with that
if you wanna send them in dms do
idc
i've seen alot
restive turret
It flashed in my mind and just vanished
celest thorn
yea i said it
celest thorn
Tough there are some weird "normies," too
sadly
restive turret
celest thorn
Awww
restive turret
celest thorn
Idk if its intended i was taking the ReferenceHub and using playerstats killing the player with KillPlayer but that one doesn't trigger the effect
upper vapor
Extents in bounds means how big it is?
Read the docs 
frail zinc
Hello guys, does anyone experienced an issue with the interactable toy when it moves through the waypoint toy? I've attached an interactable to a waypoint, everything is fine, but the interactable doesnt work after it was moved with the waypoint
celest thorn
Hello guys, does anyone experienced an issue with the interactable toy when it m...
Probably use a gameobject inside
thats better
instead of making 1 gameobject with both
frail zinc
Probably use a gameobject inside
Yes, that’s what I’m using, and everything works, the waypoint toy moves correctly, and the same goes for the interactable toy. At first, before it starts moving, the interactable works fine, but once it starts moving, it doesn’t anymore.
celest thorn
Yes, that’s what I’m using, and everything works, the waypoint toy moves correct...
Ig it could be an issue with interactable toys
frail zinc
Ig it could be an issue with interactable toys
Yep, that's why i'm here >< I asked if anyone encountered this issue or if I just made a mistake
frail zinc
worthy rune
Yes, that’s what I’m using, and everything works, the waypoint toy moves correct...
is it an interactable with duration?
celest thorn
No answer crazy
frail zinc
is it an interactable with duration?
Nope
worthy rune
how did you attach the interactable to the waypoint?
frail zinc
how did you attach the interactable to the waypoint?
With parenting, but the interactable is moved correctly
worthy rune
With parenting, but the interactable is moved correctly
if you parent a cube to the interactable, does it follow the waypoint correctly?
frail zinc
Yep
worthy rune
when you interact, are you inside the waypoint or outside
frail zinc
Inside and outside, its the same
worthy rune
how fast is the waypoint moving, does it still break even when moving very slowly?
upper vapor
The real question is:
Please attach a video 
worthy rune
interactable doesnt have a visualizer so its kinda hard to tell what went wrong
restive turret
are you not fake syncing the position of the interactible?
frail zinc
how fast is the waypoint moving, does it still break even when moving very slowl...
Smooth is set to 100 and the movement is not too fast i would say, i will try to slow down
frail zinc
are you not fake syncing the position of the interactible?
I don't think so, but the interactable doesn’t work even if i'll try interacting with it at its start position
frail zinc
The real question is:
Please attach a video <:Kek:934139484558221312>
I can do that.
frail zinc
when it stops it works again right?
nope
it works only before the waypoint start moving
worthy rune
if you log out the world position of the interactable toy does it change when its moved?
worthy rune
anything in the player log or local admin log?
frail zinc
like an error ?
frail zinc
nothing in the local admin log
worthy rune
is EXILED installed
frail zinc
is EXILED installed
hmm yes but i don't use it for the waypoint
worthy rune
sometimes EXILED can interfere due to the patches it does
are you able to try without EXILED
frail zinc
are you able to try without EXILED
i can't :/
worthy rune
are you able to try, parenting the interactable to a primitive and moving the primitive to see if that workss
frail zinc
without waypoint ?
worthy rune
all im able to say, is that parenting to a primitive and moving works fine(because i use it) so it follows that it should work for waypoints to
frail zinc
all im able to say, is that parenting to a primitive and moving works fine(becau...
hmm very weird, i just did transform.localPosition += new Vector3(0, 5, 0); and now the interactable doesn't work at the new position, and at the old position, so even if I remove waypoint, it doesn't work
worthy rune
very odd*
frail zinc
:/
worthy rune
hmm very weird, i just did transform.localPosition += new Vector3(0, 5, 0); and ...
can you try this without EXILED?
frail zinc
at this moment i can't because our project works sadly with exiled (and labapi)
exiled is a mess
scarlet cobalt
How to achieve infinite jailbird (won't broke)
I tried
public override void OnPlayerProcessingJailbirdMessage(PlayerProcessingJailbirdMessageEventArgs ev)
{
if (ev.Message == JailbirdMessageType.Broken)
ev.IsAllowed = false;
}
[HarmonyPrefix]
public static bool PrefixRecheckUsage(JailbirdDeteriorationTracker __instance)
{
var jailbird = __instance._jailbird;
if (jailbird?.Owner != null && HasInfiniteJailbird(jailbird.Owner))
{
JailbirdDeteriorationTracker.ReceivedStates[jailbird.ItemSerial] = JailbirdWearState.Healthy;
NetworkWriter writer;
using (new AutosyncRpc(jailbird.ItemId, out writer))
{
writer.WriteByte((byte)0);
writer.WriteByte((byte)JailbirdWearState.Healthy);
}
return false;
}
return true;
}```this is called when client sends a message
client doesnt control jailbird being broken
scarlet cobalt
I see
hearty shard
we love it
soft turtle
Does LabApi have a ChangeAppearance method like Exiled?
hearty shard
Does LabApi have a ChangeAppearance method like Exiled?
no
labapi doesnt handle that rn (and it wouldnt be done the same as exiled)
exiled fake syncs, labapi wont fake sync
scarlet cobalt
JailbirdItem::ServerReset()
it's worked
hearty shard
or at least not the way mirror does it might do it in a more basegame route like the scale changes
scarlet cobalt
thank you bro
hearty shard
frail zinc
can you try this without EXILED?
okay, that's not exiled. i don't know why, and it's really weird, BUT when I change the parent of the toy, right after that, the toy (which is at the right position), stops work. 🤔 💀
thanks anyway for your help
worthy rune
so the higher the value the more movement smoothing there is
celest thorn
<@1068368908530229280> why
Because movement is smoother the higher it is?
hearty shard
isnt it already like that
celest thorn
oh fuck you just wrote it
celest thorn
isnt it already like that
no
worthy rune
isnt it already like that
no
hearty shard
so lower in basegame is higher? but labapi makes it the opposite?
celest thorn
it teleports
celest thorn
so lower in basegame is higher? but labapi makes it the opposite?
if you want it smooth asf you make it higher
hearty shard
or what
celest thorn
if you want it snappy lower
worthy rune
0 = teleport, 1 is smoothed but will move the fastest, 255 is the smoothest but has alot of delay
sinful bronze
Make curve
hearty shard
well
ill leave it, just looked weird
someone forgot to do the todo
or maybe its in an internal pr waiting for review or merge who knows
worthy rune
you can pr it if you want
hearty shard
already doing so
doing some other additions
actually
riptide
please publicize :)
i did this for now (even though its duplicate code)
worthy rune
uhh, just keep in mind that adding other stuff will cause it to be delayed especially if it requires a base game MR or introduces a breaking change
hearty shard
uhh, just keep in mind that adding other stuff will cause it to be delayed espec...
yea im not doing basegame changes or breaking
just some additions
like JailbirdItem::Reset() being added or some more RoleTypeId extensions
this
icy knoll
does IsSpectatable = false hide that person from the server list? havent had time to check...
it was my impression it wasnt from player count / player list, but just spectatable list
worthy rune
https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/pull/282
looks good
hearty shard
please publicize :)
also would add ability to change the damage and stuff from wrapper and without publicizng assembly
hearty shard
looks good
ill see if theres any extra thats missing, but that was the primary things i saw
worthy rune
does IsSpectatable = false hide that person from the server list? havent had tim...
should only be the spectator list, not the server list
icy knoll
should only be the spectator list, not the server list
ty
hearty shard
also would add ability to change the damage and stuff from wrapper and without p...
but yea this require basegame changes to be possible unfortunately
yum
recursion my beloved
worthy rune
is it calling the new or the base
hearty shard
is it calling the new or the base
its calling itself
base is PickupPhysicsModule, but wrapper wants to return PickupStandardPhysics
worthy rune
ic
hearty shard
scp018 is required to be PickupStandardPhysics right
cuz then i can just cast to it
hearty shard
``Scp018Physics``
i could prob cast to that then yea
although
thats not what its doing
it makes a standard not 018 specific one
but it does do this too
worthy rune
yeah it changes physics module based on if its activated or not
so you need to have both module types, and both should be nullable
hearty shard
private void SetupModule()
{
this._activationTime = NetworkTime.time;
this._damagedPlayersSinceLastBounce = new HashSet<uint>();
this.PhysicsModule.DestroyModule();
this.PhysicsModule = (PickupPhysicsModule) new Scp018Physics(this, this._trail, this._radius, this._maximumVelocity, this._onBounceVelocityAddition);
}
ok so
on collission, if its NOT 018 physics
it will set itself as 018 physics
i might just leave it, cuz i think this is smth for yall not me
itd also prob be a breaking change sooo ya
worthy rune
cant you just do this?
public new PickupStandardPhysics? PhysicsModule => base.PhysicsModule as PickupStandardPhysics;
public Scp018Physics? Scp018PhysicsModule => base.PhysicsModule as Scp018Physics;
breaking change making it nullable
i could do another pr for it
ill do that then
worthy rune
breaking change making it nullable
doesnt seem to be
hearty shard
doesnt seem to be
is it not?
worthy rune
i cant find info about it breaking existing compiled code
hearty shard
i would assume making something nullable would be breaking since its int -> int?
eg
worthy rune
i could see that
hearty shard
worthy rune
for reference types, i wouldnt expect it to break tho
worthy rune
can you call base or no
hearty shard
base doesnt have the rigidbody
it uses the physics module
which could be either PickupStandardPhysics or Scp018Physics
only the first actually has rigidbody i think
yep
maybe this
worthy rune
if there is away to get the velocity from Scp018Physics you could use that
hearty shard
hearty shard
this would actually only work for when first thrown
and only before it lands
so idk!
soft turtle
How to destroy an item that a player is holding?
cyan crown
upper vapor
i do believe itd break for plugins using it, but im not 100%
Not for reference types
Nullability is only a hint for the compiler
hearty shard
oh okay
upper vapor
If the user doesn't null check then shit
hearty shard
good to know!
upper vapor
It's technically a behavioral breaking change because now you make it nullable
But it could've been null either way
true cedar
gmmmmmm
upper vapor
gmmmmmm
Good morning morning morning morning morning morning
Put that in Google translate and make a beat
true cedar
good good morning good good good morning
pallid galleon
Anyone know how I can get a GameObject to parent its position to an elevator?
if it's inside one
upper vapor
o.transform.parent = elevatorChamber.transform
scarlet cobalt
How to change a player's voice channel?
for example, change someone's channel to an SCP channel
upper vapor
PlayerSendingVoiceMessageEvent
scarlet cobalt
PlayerSendingVoiceMessageEvent
but I can't let a specific human hear SCP speak
this only allows the specified human's words to be heard by SCP, but does not allow SCP's words to be heard by the specified human
hearty shard
this only allows the specified human's words to be heard by SCP, but does not al...
you need to send it to the human
scarlet cobalt
WE NEED OnPlayerReceivingVoiceMessage EVENT
my bad, it does have it already
scarlet cobalt
you need to send it to the human
how?
scarlet cobalt
tks
upper vapor
Np
pallid galleon
hmm, anyone know why this wouldn't be working?
areaPrimitive = PrimitiveObjectToy.Create(null, false);
areaPrimitive.Type = PrimitiveType.Cylinder;
areaPrimitive.Parent = triggerGameObject.transform;
areaPrimitive.Position = Vector3.zero;
areaPrimitive.Scale = new Vector3(10f, 0.1f, 10f);
areaPrimitive.Flags = AdminToys.PrimitiveFlags.Visible;
areaPrimitive.Spawn();
areaPrimitive.Color = new Color(1f, 0f, 0f, 0.1f);
CL.Info($"Fire area created @ {position}, {areaPrimitive.Transform.position}, {triggerReference.transform.position}");
The trigger works just fine, whenever I try to parent the primitive to the trigger it doesn't show up
pallid galleon
The colour works fine. If I don't have the parenting there, and just set the position to triggerGameObject.transform.position, it works fine
it just doesn't sync with it for like moving in elevators
upper vapor
it just doesn't sync with it for like moving in elevators
Uuhhhh
pallid galleon
nah
I mean I got the elevator stuff working for the trigger
it's just parenting the primitive to the trigger
static meteor
How to destroy an item that a player is holding?
Item::DropItem().Destroy()
soft turtle
Item::DropItem().Destroy()
✅
static meteor
Item::RemoveItem()
Dosent exist in the item class
static meteor
Publicized
icy knoll
outdated labapi then or smth, because for me it exists
restive turret
outdated labapi then or smth, because for me it exists
upper vapor
Publicized
Hollow emoji
upper vapor
Crazy
hearty shard
grab the item you have with the serial and add it instead of creating with a specific serial
hearty shard
why r u doing that
plain gazelle
Because i want duplicate Items with the same serial
plain gazelle
Too much to explain
true cedar
@hearty shard are u ever gonna make that smart command framework
hearty shard
<@1180466630191501363> are u ever gonna make that smart command framework
if i can make it work nicely
and can be bothered
true cedar
i kinda wanna try my hand at it
hearty shard
i kinda wanna try my hand at it
go ahead
if u need inspiration or ideas theres my pr always
restive turret
Or just look how ax made it
hearty shard
Or just look how ax made it
gross
celest thorn
helo
true cedar
Or just look how ax made it
where !
true cedar
oh my idea was like
a lot more focused on parsing arguments
so you'd be able to do
public CommandResponse Execute(
[Sender]
Player sender,
Player target,
[Length(1, 20)]
ReadOnlySpan<char> nickname;
)
Just copy some code over from C# Discord libs
¯_(ツ)_/¯
No need to reinvent the wheel
true cedar
I dont get this
rather than taking in a giant ArraySegment<string> of arguments
restive turret
Still no idea what you wish in the input or whatever that is
true cedar
you can instead have it automatically parse what you want
grand flower
sl is pretty different from discord lol
If you grab the parsing stuff, not really?
You're just parsing text
Doesn't matter if it's in SL or a Discord message
grand flower
It's generic enough that you can just get rid of the Discord entity parsing and replace it with SL related stuff
plain gazelle
How do i send a RA-Console message to a specific player again?
restive turret
Sorry i no longer on pc can't check :(
plain gazelle
I will try this
I should just make this shit an extension already
Why does LabAPI not have it :v
grand flower
PR it
restive turret
!remindme 14h Add RA message send in LabApi
regal lakeBOT
!remindme 14h Add RA message send in LabApi
I will remind you of that in 14 hours (<t:1759059768:f>).
unique crane
How do i send a RA-Console message to a specific player again?
Why?
Make it send the stuff on command
celest thorn
why not
plain gazelle
Why?
Because im executing lots of methods in other classes and scripts and instead of all of them having out string responses i would prefer to have an easy way to send RA messages ._.
final iris
you know i was wondering why I had a ping here
worthy rune
hmm, anyone know why this wouldn't be working?
```
areaPrimitive = PrimitiveObj...
whats triggerGameObject in this
pallid galleon
I fixed it, my triggerGameObjects position was way different from it's local position
So I just made the primitives parent the elevator game object, which Is what I should've done in the first place anyway 😛
worthy rune
ahh makes sense
mild walrus
is there any way to lock a door created in a map of MER in a plugin?
i mean a code that locks a door from MER
worthy rune
are you able to loop over the objects in a MER map?
mild walrus
are you able to loop over the objects in a MER map?
MapUtils.LoadMap("puerta939");
var data = MapUtils.GetMapData("puerta939");
foreach (var kv in data.Doors)
{
var id = kv.Key;
var door = kv.Value;
Logger.Info($"Door {id}: Locked={door.IsLocked}, Open={door.IsOpen}");
door.IsLocked = true;
}
Did this for locking it but it looks buggy and i cant interact with it
worthy rune
MapUtils.LoadMap("puerta939");
var data = MapUtils.GetMapData("puerta93...
whats the type of door here
mild walrus
whats the type of ``door`` here
ProjectMER.Features.Serializable.SerializableDoor
worthy rune
maybe try spawning the map then locking the doors using the labapi wrapper
teal junco
You're locking serializable doors, i'm not sure if thats going to be effective
wait
let me check
yeah you arent gonna be locking any in-game doors
plain gazelle
Trying and failing to find out if/how Testroom and/or 330 room is deletable
Ive seen posts about this posted in the past but have yet to see anyones code on how they did it
I FOUND IT
THE FIRST CHILD
I just have to kill the first child
^love sentences like these
warped prairie
^love sentences like these
this guys EVIL
plain gazelle
I am willing to sacrifice any amount of children to be able to modify the generated map however i want to
warped prairie
true cedar
most normal sl plugin dev
grand flower
Can you even delete rooms
pallid galleon
is there a way to make primitives materials emissive?
upper vapor
```cs
public CommandResponse Execute(
[Sender]
Player sender,
Player targe...
Good luck passing spans with reflection xd
true cedar
Good luck passing spans with reflection xd
my other idea was to use custom il generation to call it
would be pretty fast and still support spans
upper vapor
Weavers 
true cedar
:3
upper vapor
Not worth it
true cedar
https://github.com/pawslee/PleaseJustFuckingRestart
also look at this
its the best plugin ever made
true cedar
dafuq as in
true cedar
if idle mode isnt it on it disables the method so it doesnt get called every frame
esp important since it uses a potentially locking method i think
celest thorn
Can we make this in base game??
teal junco
is there a way to make primitives materials emissive?
have colors that exceed 1.0 (like an rgb value of 10.0, 10.0, 10.0) and an alpha slightly below 1.0, and it will reflect lots of light
almost appears to emit light
upper vapor
@unique crane you assigned this to yourself, has there a fix been implemented?
it's also slightly an issue how the cassie clear rpc does nothing on the server
so the client clears its queue but the server doesn't
unique crane
Not merged most likely
upper vapor
i'm asking if the solution is already present with base-game changes
or simply the called method was changed (in labapi)
unique crane
Uhhh idk
upper vapor
i'd guess that the first method in the screenshot should not be #ifdef'd
unique crane
I remember it changing to what cassie clear cmd does
upper vapor
how is this only called on map gen if i access it in my plugin enable method
okay seems like typeof is not enough to call the static constructor
viral root
Does the idle mode kill all coroutines? Because i noticed that my coroutine doesnt continue after the Server has entered the idle mode. log message
hearty shard
Does the idle mode kill all coroutines? Because i noticed that my coroutine does...
no but it slows them down significantly
afaik at least
if you want a coroutine to run in real time you have to set it as that
viral root
And how do I do that?
hearty shard
Timing.RunCoroutine(Update(), Segment.RealtimeUpdate);
viral root
thx
celest thorn
this chat is dead
hearty shard
yea hes right here
restive turret
yea hes right here
restive turret
warped prairie
i cant belive 2014 was 40 years ago :(
royal mica
I noticed something with the serverside thing and dunno if I'M just not seeing it or actually this is a uuh moment
(and no, I won't use a framework)
If you have 3 plugins, all 3 tries to add conditional ServerSideSetting, you are essentially fucked
worthy rune
If you have 3 plugins, all 3 tries to add conditional ServerSideSetting, you are...
whats ServerSideSetting refering too
true cedar
probably
check this out NOW https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1421674802468360284
hearty shard
check this out NOW https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1421674802468...
i already saw
true cedar
damn
royal mica
whats ServerSideSetting refering too
huh
I'm tallking about UserSettings.ServerSpecific.ServerSpecificSettingsSync
also if any plugin just overrides DefinedSettings or does SendToPlayer you are done
worthy rune
also if any plugin just overrides `DefinedSettings` or does `SendToPlayer` you a...
plugins should append instead of overriding the eniter array
royal mica
should but I suspect this is not always the case
hearty shard
ya
royal mica
Also doesn't help that you need to add everything in there, but you do not want everything to be shown, in that case it'll be very interesting to handle
rough tundra
Hey guys, how do you control the lights in the whole facility? When there's a power cut event, an overcharge etc?
upper vapor
Hey guys, how do you control the lights in the whole facility? When there's a po...
look at how the overcharge command works
worthy rune
Also doesn't help that you need to add everything in there, but you do not want ...
will probably add away to specify a predicate on serverSpecificSettings so that they can be supported properly across plugins
royal mica
will probably add away to specify a predicate on serverSpecificSettings so that ...
I feel like a subscribe service would be a way more structural OOP approach, like how CustomEventsHandler is done
The whole impl feels very strange
single plugin approach-esque
cause when I have a mono plugin setup, it works great, but if you have separate plugins, you are kinda screwed
especially if you do not controll all the installed plugins
worthy rune
I feel like a subscribe service would be a way more structural OOP approach, lik...
not sure how that would work tbh
upper vapor
squbi have you seen the leaked dll
royal mica
squbi have you seen the leaked dll
nop
worthy rune
upper vapor
me when a nw dev sends a concept :
it wouldn't have been dramatic
worthy rune
keep in mind that its not at all final, infact alot of it has changed since it was posted
upper vapor
yeah the SSSS system should be rewritten cuz this is just a wrapper
royal mica
not sure how that would work tbh
Basically you create a new SettingSync class, something like CustomServerSpecificSettingsSyncHandler (we java now)
There you can implement the send to player, receive data, definions etc.
Internally this would be handled as different definitons and abtracted away, meaning all events and options only sent to the respective handlers
true cedar
i think serverside settings system should be made in rust
worthy rune
wha
true cedar
i will not take questions
upper vapor
i will not take questions
you will not take questions in the grave, correct
true cedar
rust is the best programming language ever made
worthy rune
it's a bit overengineered imo
what makes it overengineered
worthy rune
Basically you create a new SettingSync class, something like `CustomServerSpecif...
oh yeah
royal mica
This does not fix my problem at all
you are still fucked if there is a plugin that fucks all
worthy rune
wont be the case if it gets integrated into the LabAPI
theres likely to be base game changes along side it
royal mica
You are still modifying a globally available list of options
and not isolated to the plugin itself where it cannot even think of interracting with the others
upper vapor
what makes it overengineered
there's a lot of things
3 generic parameters is a lot
dunno about consumer experience, the examples you showed are simple
i think the system could be simplified though, given that base-game changes are made
royal mica
This is a good direction, don't get me wrong, but I still think a complete isloation could be made
true cedar
you are still fucked if there is a plugin that fucks all
if theres a plugin that crashes the server instantly that fucks up all other plugins
royal mica
if theres a plugin that crashes the server instantly that fucks up all other plu...
How to not get my point, thanks
worthy rune
This is a good direction, don't get me wrong, but I still think a complete isloa...
btw im sharing it just because it was mentioned, it wasnt going to fix your issue
royal mica
might as well Runtime.exec("rm", ["-rf"]) at that point
worthy rune
but the issue your mentioning, is something that im working on as apart of that project. but the details of that are to come later
royal mica
btw im sharing it just because it was mentioned, it wasnt going to fix your issu...
Yeah I know, and I'M grateful that there is an active effort ongoing on making the DevEX much better
I assume there is no ETA or other timeframe where these improvements will be live
worthy rune
there's a lot of things
3 generic parameters is a lot <:Kek:934139484558221312> ...
the generic versions are purely for implementation classes. which is why they are in Internal folders. i would like to hide them completely(without expanding the details into each derived class ) but couldnt figure out a way
upper vapor
yeah that's fair
royal mica
Will this full abstract away the current way of implementation, so you are forced to use this?
worthy rune
there's a lot of things
3 generic parameters is a lot <:Kek:934139484558221312> ...
the goal was to make an API that handled the most common cases with the simplest code, stuff that was less common could be abit more complex, but it had to be possible i couldnt cut features out otherwise you would be forced to use the base game system which would lock you out completely from the higher level APIs(since the higher level API completely abtracted away the lower one)
royal mica
That is good to hear, as it would lock out other plugins as well from the higher API 
worthy rune
Will this full abstract away the current way of implementation, so you are force...
you can use the base game system still, so your not forced to use it. so you can still use other SSSS systems(or your own one) if you choose so
royal mica
But then my original problem still exists 
worthy rune
base game changes are required to fix that
btw in the ComposableSerttings system you can still delete other plugins settings, its just harder by default todo it
royal mica
I mean you intentionally have to go out of your way as I can see, which goes into the malicious territory
But still ways better than the current SSSS as I literally deleted my own keybinds
upper vapor
But still ways better than the current SSSS as I literally deleted my own keybin...
DefinedSettings ??= []
DefinedSettings = [..DefinedSettings, othersetting]
royal mica
DefinedSettings ??= []
DefinedSettings = [..DefinedSettings, othersetting]
SendToPlayer 
upper vapor
oh well
royal mica
All plugins require conditional SendToPlayer
so need to do the pro gamer move and create the 17th competitive standard
upper vapor
yea
true cedar
DefinedSettings ??= []
DefinedSettings = [..DefinedSettings, othersetting]
with every update c# becomes more and more like javascript
upper vapor
with every update c# becomes more and more like javascript
okay rust user
worthy rune
I mean you intentionally have to go out of your way as I can see, which goes int...
wouldnt say malicious since there could be a genuine reason todo such a thing. e.g. if you needed to hide all other plugin settings(temporarily or permanently). which is why i dont try to restrict the APIs reach, and allow this kind of stuff
royal mica
wouldnt say malicious since there could be a genuine reason todo such a thing. e...
The thing is, how do you restore it then?
I see the vision of making like a paging system, but if there are two plugins that does this, it would go up in flames no?
cosmic hedge
The thing is, how do you restore it then?
if you deleted it, i doubt it's recoverable. you know for next time ig?
worthy rune
you can store the instances in your plugin, then returning them back later will work fine
upper vapor
you can store the instances in your plugin, then returning them back later will ...
it really is that simple
-# what happens if another plugin modifies the settings while you have them hidden
worthy rune
I see the vision of making like a paging system, but if there are two plugins th...
your refering to two different paging system(in that case base game changes are required)
royal mica
you can store the instances in your plugin, then returning them back later will ...
Yeah, but you have 3 plugins that do this, every plugin can store the appropriate config I guess, but hmmm
worthy rune
it really is that simple
-# what happens if another plugin modifies the settings...
depends on the modification, if its inside they pages, it will work. but if they are modifuing the root settings through ServerSettings then it will be added to the wrong place
i thought about it, and maybe supporting a override page in the ServerSettings would be a better way to go about it
as then Settings added to the root through ServerSettings will go to the correct place even if a plugin is currently overriding the settings
scarlet cobalt
Has anyone encountered the issue where using ev.IsAllowed = false; when OnPlayerPickingUpItem is triggered causes the item to never be pickable by anyone?
there isn't even a progress bar appearing when trying to pick it up
cosmic hedge
do you have code to show for that?
hearty shard
there isn't even a progress bar appearing when trying to pick it up
afaik its locked
youll have to manually unlock it (its a bug)
cosmic hedge
a game bug or an api bug?
cosmic hedge
ah i could probably pr a fix for that rq
hearty shard
ah i could probably pr a fix for that rq
you cant
its a api bug
but the api call is in the game
but you need to use the api to cause it
cosmic hedge
oh, yeah, that's what i meant
scarlet cobalt
a terrible bug
cosmic hedge
api as in on the api itself or not
hearty shard
a terrible bug
its 1 line fix
cosmic hedge
very cool
cosmic hedge
unfortunate gg go next
hearty shard
true cedar
be quiet
upper vapor
there isn't even a progress bar appearing when trying to pick it up
ev.Pickup.IsLocked = false
soft depot
This is pretty cool!
I feel like a lot of these interfaces were necessary and you guys really limited yourselves by working with base game without trying rewrite it or anything. I feel like this was a lot of wasted potential because you guys are really holding yourselves down with all the requirements you guys probably gave yourselves (using base game and no harmony)
The generics are cool and all, but it makes everything impossible to read at a glance, an average dev shouldn't have to spend 5 minutes looking at all the generics in a class to understand how something works. And I'm also worried about performance with high player count and high settings count.
I really appreciate you guys implementing a lot of the features I made for ASS (I don't know if you guys even ever took a look at it though 😅 ) like global keybinds and grouping settings (although your guys way is really... unique?) and then visibility for each setting. It would've been nice if you guys implemented some of the other things I had (IgnoreNextResponse in the setting base class and the minimization logic I had for sending settings) but I can see why you probably didn't want to add anything like that.
I'm kinda sad you guys grouped the server-only settings into the setting models, I feel like that's gonna confuse a lot of people, but once again I can see why you didn't add it (you had to follow base game)
There's a lot of really cool features in this, it just might be too much for typical LabAPI usage, and then it's also not even fully customizable in some situations (See Keycard Creator in ASS.Example, which I dont think is possible in a reasonable way with this addition)
I feel like you guys really hit a niche really well, but just kind of forgot about everything else. 10/10 code, you guys did a great! job, but I'll never use it because my usages of SSS are typically more complex, and this is like a hydrogen bomb vs its intended use case
hearty shard
soft depot
This is pretty cool!
I feel like a lot of these interfaces were necessary and y...
I'd say the best use case for this is replacing SecretAPI 
upper vapor
1.1.3 when?
PackageReference Include="Northwood.LabAPI" Version="1.1.3"
-# github release has not been made
solar pecan
-# github release has not been made
-# i've noticed
cosmic hedge
i somehow managed to freeze the server with a very basic plugin 🙏
hearty shard
i somehow managed to freeze the server with a very basic plugin 🙏
show
upper vapor
-# i've noticed
troll
upper vapor
i somehow managed to freeze the server with a very basic plugin 🙏
while (true) ;