plugins-dev-chat

[grand flower]

do you not test features 😐

[hearty shard]

i think its just bad naming

It works...

Just reversed

[grand flower]

Yeah, but like, if someone tested it out, it wouldn't be "broken" right now

[worthy rune]

had to be as it relied on client only stuff to be able to fix it

[slow pond]

is items disappearing/dropping from inventorys a northwood thing or plugin?

[worthy rune]

nw thing, should be fixed in 14.1.4

[slow pond]

Yipey

[worthy rune]

actually, i think i misunderstood your question. idk about that

i was thinking of the 914 bug for some reason

[slow pond]

nah just randomly loosing items from inventory

anywhere in facility

[worthy rune]

hmmm, i dont remember hearing about that. so im not sure if its a nw bug or plugin one

[slow pond]

all good just thought i would ask before redoing some

[unique crane]

Hm

Well fuck

[spare zodiac]

yo question about networking

I've sent spawn message only to one client for items to spawn and then sent destroy message to that singular client, which caused the client not seeing items, but other clients suddenly could

[unique crane]

Merge conflict broke it

[grand flower]

ah lmao

well i mean it works, just kinda awkward

is it gonna be fixed before release? just so I know to invert my stuff again later

[unique crane]

I can ask but doubtful unfortunately

[unique crane]

In worst case you can just use the base game code

Sorry

[grand flower]

true

no worries, happens

[unique crane]

When we have to test everything it just slips through

Especially after you merge in latest branches several times

[grand flower]

can't complain anyway, we finally can hide players from the list and it's cool

[unique crane]

Yey

[upper vapor]

It is breaking
Because the compiler emits the numeric value

[upper vapor]

❌ Git tree
✅ Git rainforest

[thin shuttle]

It's not breaking because it's wasn't valid

And nobody could use it

[unique crane]

Git jungle

[restive turret]

Jiggle

[unique crane]

Autocorrect

[restive turret]

But yes probably the end looks like some rainforest bc of like too many branches for fixes

[upper vapor]

Already compiled builds that used the old value will have their behavior broken
They might have used a value that now maps to a new value

[celest thorn]

Jiggle physics

[pulsar locust]

Git amazon

[upper vapor]

😭

[thin shuttle]

How could they used this value when it's was wrong ?

Like doing (GeneratorState)((int)GenratorState.None)-1)

In this case yeah it's does break

[thin shuttle]

Oldvalue was wrong so nope they will not be broken

The most of time when this value was used it's to remove all other flag enum

And that will still work perfectly fine

[limber silo]

It is not a breaking change, since we define breaking changes as changes that need plugins to recompile

which is why yamato is defending that

on the other side, yeah. It is a logic breaking change

but you are talking about a different concept

[restive turret]

Can't wait to 15.0 break everything

Atleast there you can make breaking changes

[icy knoll]

labapi and the game have different versions smh

[restive turret]

Ye but i rarely see update on labapi itself only to be pushed

[thin shuttle]

I would even defend the logic breaking actually

For this case

Modifying other value would be a breaking logic but not for the None state since it's actually wrong and can't be used

Correctly

[limber silo]

Indeed for 15.0 we will release a breaking update

We will most probably also move from .net framework to standard

[restive turret]

i dont know if its a good thing or not

oh i remmeber linux support?

[limber silo]

well .net standard is multiplatform, has more libraries and it will be compatible when unity moves to .net core, also is being updated not line .net framework which was archived and it is only on mainteinance mode

[restive turret]

tbh unity going into netcore is like 2+ years

1 because they wait for stable net10

another 1 bc impl take time

[limber silo]

Too optimistic I would say

unity unity...

[restive turret]

more because its unity and not really a priority

you prob could, could somehow mod unity to be .net9 ready

i gues

[tepid sluice]

well

so the migrate would be ez ig

[restive turret]

i guess

good luck on that

[tepid sluice]

for Class Library

i think so

[celest thorn]

hello

anyone alive?

[tepid sluice]

dead

[celest thorn]

so sad

[true cedar]

no

[celest thorn]

;(

[true cedar]

everyone on earth has died you're the only one left

[celest thorn]

so sad

so wait

if you are talking to me

that means you are an AI

[true cedar]

no im a hallucination

[celest thorn]

So what am i thinking rn

[upper vapor]

no

[upper vapor]

thoughts

[celest thorn]

crazy

                MapGeneration.Distributors.Locker lockerInstance = Locker.SpawnMeow(transform: null);
                lockerInstance.transform.position = position;
lockerInstance.GetComponent<StructurePositionSync>().Start();
NetworkServer.Spawn(lockerInstance.gameObject);

WHY its outside of a room when its on top of surface

just for the client btw

and its the same logic im using for my editor

but here it doesn't

Position: (-0.05, 356.20, -81.65)

[restive turret]

spawn first then start

[celest thorn]

I tried

still nothing

[restive turret]

F

[celest thorn]

but the other spawn fine ;(((((

whyy??? sl are you doing this to me

[restive turret]

try with
StructurePositionSync.Network_position = myposiwant

[celest thorn]

let me try with this

and then i will try with that one

[restive turret]

MapGeneration.Distributors.Locker lockerInstance = Locker.SpawnMeow(transform: null);
NetworkServer.Spawn(lockerInstance.gameObject);
lockerInstance.transform.position = position;
StructurePositionSync sps = lockerInstance.GetComponent<StructurePositionSync>();
sps.Start();
sps.Network_position = position;

[celest thorn]

Ok the locker spawns in the location but still throws the error

amazing game

ngl im about to make it a schematic

and throw it in the map

and not dynamically spawn it

like the position isn't the problem

[upper vapor]

what

is happening

[celest thorn]

Lockers decided to break when i spawn them

again

but this time just when i spawn them with code

that is outside of meow

[celest thorn]

.

[celest thorn]

Position.

the model spawns

but still doesn't work because it screams no room found

[restive turret]

did you spawned into the room?

into a room

[celest thorn]

im in surface

[celest thorn]

Let me check if the server gives me something using the same code

[upper vapor]

what type of locker are you spawning

idk man seems like a skill issue again

[celest thorn]

No it doesn't

            if(position.TryGetRoom(out RoomIdentifier identifier))
                Logger.Info(identifier.Name);

Doesn't reply

so it means thta

doesn't exist for some reason

[upper vapor]

why do structures complain about that

besides, it still spawns

[celest thorn]

it does

but no loot

[upper vapor]

mine has loot

when are you spawning it

[celest thorn]

After a while

And randomly

[upper vapor]

show your spawning code

[celest thorn]

Here

But network spawn is after everything

[upper vapor]

Locker.SpawnMeow

what does that do

[celest thorn]

It does spawn the locker

From the cached

And clones it

[upper vapor]

show the code

[celest thorn]

Im rn not at my pc

[upper vapor]

bru

[celest thorn]

But i use it for alot of other stuff in meow and works fine

[upper vapor]

in that case i have no idea

[celest thorn]

Ig i have an idea

On how to fix it

[celest thorn]

                MapGeneration.Distributors.Locker lockerInstance = PluginInitializer._objects.GetLockerFromType(SpawnableLockerType.Standard).CreateNewInstance(null);
                lockerInstance.transform.position = position;
                lockerInstance.Loot = Loot;
                StructurePositionSync positionSync = lockerInstance.GetComponent<StructurePositionSync>();
                positionSync.Network_position = position;
                positionSync.Start();
                NetworkServer.Spawn(lockerInstance.gameObject);

This is the code

Position: (5.64, 326.20, -51.90)

and still not replying with the room

ok the room is null from that function

hmmmm

[plain gazelle]

Is it possible to modify the time it takes to cuff someone?

[unique crane]

Here is what the awaiting PR does

There are some base game changes tho

so idk

[celest thorn]

Probably for out of bounds

100%

rn im trying to trick the game

into spawning it into a room

and then move it there

[unique crane]

Well it needs a waypoint

yknow

And it might be dying because of the no room yea

[celest thorn]

There are 10k waypoints

not really 10k

[unique crane]

Very doubtful

limit is 255

[celest thorn]

but its spawning inside

[celest thorn]

yea

[unique crane]

Your kinda 9,75K off there

[celest thorn]

why tf if i spawn them with meow they work

but outside

they don't

[unique crane]

Outside like

[celest thorn]

Like its so strange

[unique crane]

where

surface?

[celest thorn]

On top of surface

[unique crane]

That might be out of bounds

[celest thorn]

(3.42, 326.20, -59.73)

this is the position

but checking the position of the room

it returns null

im trying to think of a solution

but i don't have any

[icy knoll]

https://fixupx.com/DanielLockyer/status/1967445211010990208 @upper vapor

Daniel Lockyer (@DanielLockyer)

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[upper vapor]

nope

[upper vapor]

how about
you make it assign the values on serializeserver
none of this duplication would be required

[celest thorn]

can you vc?

[upper vapor]

though it is better for immediate use

[celest thorn]

because im looooooooooosing my mind

[upper vapor]

nope sorry

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/0fmvil33.png

i do this

[hearty shard]

or just a SetPositionRotation(Vector3, sbyte) method

[celest thorn]

CreateNewInstance is just clone it and put it inside a transform

[upper vapor]

does it spawn without items or not at all

[celest thorn]

it spawns

but cannot be opened or anything

[unique crane]

Tell that to riptide

its his PR

I dont want to touch it

[upper vapor]

@worthy rune why not call the start method there :3
-# or make a publiic method that assigns the values and is also called on serializeserver

[unique crane]

Scary

[upper vapor]

kek

[hearty shard]

david!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[unique crane]

eve

[hearty shard]

hi

[celest thorn]

so anyone?

[unique crane]

hi

[celest thorn]

knows a reason

god

i hate this game

[upper vapor]

check how sloc does it
i really don't know what to say to this

[celest thorn]

I hate this game

[upper vapor]

maybe you have some patches

[celest thorn]

No

I spawn it on meow

[upper vapor]

also the locker has to be world-space (i assume the null there means no parent)

[celest thorn]

it works fine

[celest thorn]

yea

[celest thorn]

the position works

its the same for both server and client

[upper vapor]

gl i guess

david go fix it for zero

[hearty shard]

axe go fix it

[celest thorn]

nameless fix it :3

[unique crane]

No, Ill wait until you get hired

And then you fix it

[celest thorn]

You wanna know something funny

i DO THE EXACT SAME THING

[unique crane]

Well maybe just

spawn it closer

[celest thorn]

Its random

i don't decide it

[unique crane]

Make it random in range where it works

[celest thorn]

the problem

they work if i spawn it in the editor

[unique crane]

and

When they dont?

[celest thorn]

when i spawn them dynamically with this code

[unique crane]

I believe that no structure work if you spawn it after you fully joined?

[hearty shard]

i think it does

[celest thorn]

they do work

[hearty shard]

ive done it w generator

[celest thorn]

because i do that

[unique crane]

okay

[restive turret]

The mystery gang

[celest thorn]

Yea SL is a mystery

i do sometimes wonder if sl is in reality scp-079

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/mizas6dr.png

this GUY IS HERE

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/glhhc5mf.png

I hate this game

wait i know what i can try

lets see

[worthy rune]

i would rather redo the entier system then make a small change for structures that doesnt change the final behaviour

[celest thorn]

I swear i hate this lockers

[upper vapor]

[upper vapor]

Don't parent it

[celest thorn]

i don't

and still happens

i swear im loosing it

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/do2mrbh4.png

this is what i do

but still error

after error

after error

[upper vapor]

Show the method that creates the locker

[worthy rune]

also wheres the error

[celest thorn]

Client

[worthy rune]

have you posted it i skimed over the chat

didnt see it

[celest thorn]

  public static T CreateNewInstance<T>(this T instance, Transform parent) where T : MonoBehaviour
  {
    T newInstance = Object.Instantiate<T>(instance);
    //just setting up stuff like identity etc...
    return newInstance;
  }

[upper vapor]

#plugins-dev-chat message

[celest thorn]

Get LockerFromType is just a simple enum check

and thats it

[worthy rune]

ahh i dont have embeds enabled

[upper vapor]

XDDDDD

[upper vapor]

// "just setting up stuff"
What's that stuff
Cuz this code has negative issues

[worthy rune]

does this error stop it from working?

[upper vapor]

It can't be opened

[celest thorn]

yes

[worthy rune]

weird

[celest thorn]

it can't be opened or anything

other lockers do work

on the same position

[worthy rune]

hmmm

[celest thorn]

only the one i spawn with this code don't

[worthy rune]

this isnt related to waypoints is it?

if your to far outside the map you cant interact with anything anyway

[celest thorn]

Waypoints are all around it

[upper vapor]

Works with sloc

[celest thorn]

and i can move

[upper vapor]

The locker can move?

Oh no

You can move

Nvm

[celest thorn]

no i can move

[worthy rune]

with noclip or walking around?

[celest thorn]

walking around

[upper vapor]

Oh right I haven't tested without noclip

[celest thorn]

i have the waypoint toy

around

but it wouldn't explain why other lockers do work

but not this one

[upper vapor]

Drop an item and see if you can pick it up

[celest thorn]

i can

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/vsmh428o.png

i have this ones

around the map

and they work

that i added from the editor

[worthy rune]

the thing is, that log for the locker spawning outside of a room doesn't actually do anything. its only used by generators in HCZ

[celest thorn]

the one spawned via code don't

[worthy rune]

your issue is likely related to something causing the interaction not to go through on the client or the server blocking the interaction

[celest thorn]

let me do something

[celest thorn]

wait

if they don't get interacted

wait

i probably know why?

[worthy rune]

i have been spawning lockers outside the map for awhile and its been working fine for me

[celest thorn]

Funny enough i spawn the loot

and it works

but

still throws the error

honestly idc

[upper vapor]

@celest thorn

[upper vapor]

Yeah zero's gotta be doing something funky

[celest thorn]

Btw it works now

just throwing that error

i honestly idc

[upper vapor]

Well then

To remove the error you must remove the client

[celest thorn]

Btw it fixed itself

randomly

OH i know why

...

im stupid

the locker didn't have any loot

and so the server was despawning it

[upper vapor]

Bruh

[restive turret]

💀

congrats i guess for fixing it

[upper vapor]

Guys my plugin is not working
-# I forgot to enable it after disabling it

Lighting adjustments

[hearty shard]

guh

[celest thorn]

                foreach (LockerChamber chamber in locker.Chambers)
                {
                    foreach (ItemPickupBase pickupBase in chamber.Content)
                    {
                        pickupBase.DestroySelf();
                    }

                    chamber.Content.Clear();
                    chamber.ToBeSpawned.Clear();
                    chamber.IsOpen = false;
                    locker.FillChamber(chamber);
                }

Btw does someone know why tf it doesn't nor close nor respawn the loot inside

[upper vapor]

Cuz it's already spawned the loot so there's nothing to spawn anymore

(?)

[celest thorn]

I need to make it respawn tho

[upper vapor]

Save the loot into a new array

Or get it from the prefab

And clone

[celest thorn]

I already have a patch that replaces the loot

[upper vapor]

Well

Set the loot before FillChambers

[celest thorn]

i patch fill chamber to

[magic gate]

https://tenor.com/view/trinity-dexter-arthur-mitchell-gif-2942089441442781935

[restive turret]

john webdev when download

[celest thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/914403380070330419/1371547051170726030/attachment-3.gif

[magic gate]

Upload your plugins

NOW

https://tenor.com/view/blm-gif-25815938

[celest thorn]

Im busy

alot

[magic gate]

No you’re not

[celest thorn]

yes i am

i will tomorrow

but just for now im trying to fix alot of stuff

[restive turret]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[magic gate]

https://tenor.com/view/send-this-peasant-to-the-dungeons-cat-shoo-cat-biscuts-gif-16117581385364247299

[celest thorn]

I just wanna really know why why yyyyy????? THE LOCKER DON'T want to respawn the loot

i swear

[plain gazelle]

Is there any way to get player.DisplayName without the <color=#123456> prefix and * suffix?

[upper vapor]

check if they're nicked
if yes, remove last x chars

wait, doesn't that already return the clean string
nevermind

who put that there

[hearty shard]

huh

[upper vapor]

NicknameSync

[hearty shard]

what about it

[upper vapor]

nick.Substring(0, nick.IndexOf('<'))

[upper vapor]

if it's only timing out at 500ms then we might have ome issues

[celest thorn]

I just really need to know

why

if i do a second time

            foreach (MapGeneration.Distributors.Locker locker in ChambersOverride.Lockers)
            {
                if (locker == null)
                    continue;

                foreach (LockerChamber chamber in locker.Chambers)
                {
                    foreach (ItemPickupBase pickupBase in chamber.Content)
                    {
                        pickupBase.DestroySelf();
                    }

                    chamber.Content.Clear();
                    chamber.ToBeSpawned.Clear();
                    locker.FillChamber(chamber);
                }
            }

it just refuses to do it

even tho loot does exist

and does work

[upper vapor]

what's the loot

[celest thorn]

the loot is just random items i took from the list

and it works at first spawn

once i want to respawn the loot

it doesn't

i tried eveyrthing

but always empty

tried closing

tried resetting the values nothing

just no loot

[celest thorn]

it gets reset everytime

[upper vapor]

don't see it being reset here

[celest thorn]

[HarmonyPatch(typeof(Locker), nameof(Locker.FillChamber))]
public class ChambersOverride
{
    public static HashSet<Locker> Lockers = new();
    
    public static bool Prefix(Locker __instance, LockerChamber ch)
    {
        if (!Mode.Instance.Config.Loot.TryGetValue(__instance.StructureType, out List<ConfigLockerLoot> loots))
            return true;
        
        LockerLoot[] Loot = loots.Select(x => x.ToLockerLoot()).ToArray();
        
        List<int> list = ListPool<int>.Shared.Rent();
        for (int i = 0; i < Loot.Length; i++)
        {
            LockerLoot lockerLoot = Loot[i];
            if (lockerLoot.RemainingUses > 0)
            {
                for (int j = 0; j <= lockerLoot.ProbabilityPoints; j++)
                {
                    list.Add(i);
                }
            }
        }
        if (list.Count > 0)
        {
            int num = list[Random.Range(0, list.Count)];
            LockerLoot lockerLoot2 = Loot[num];

            int MinChamber = Mode.Instance.Config.OverrideMinChambersToFill <= -1
                ? lockerLoot2.MinPerChamber
                : Mode.Instance.Config.OverrideMinChambersToFill;
            
            int MaxPerChamber = Mode.Instance.Config.OverrideMaxChambersToFill <= -1
                ? lockerLoot2.MaxPerChamber
                : Mode.Instance.Config.OverrideMaxChambersToFill;
            
            ch.SpawnItem(lockerLoot2.TargetItem, Random.Range(MinChamber, MaxPerChamber + 1));
            lockerLoot2.RemainingUses--;
        }
        
        Lockers.Add(__instance);
        ListPool<int>.Shared.Return(list);
        return false;
    }
}

[upper vapor]

did you know that this is a class

therefore if you modify the remaining uses
it impacts every other call

[celest thorn]

What???

[upper vapor]

you need to clone the loot instances too, not just the array

[celest thorn]

public LockerLoot ToLockerLoot()
{
return new LockerLoot()
{
MaxPerChamber = MaxPerChamber,
MinPerChamber = MinPerChamber,
ProbabilityPoints = ProbabilityPoints,
RemainingUses = RemainingUses,
TargetItem = TargetItem,
};
}

to locker loot does this

[upper vapor]

ah

that's rough

can you log out the original loot list from the config

this should really work 😭

[celest thorn]

Fun fact it works

but there's no loot

System.Collections.Generic.List`1[Gamemode.API.Features.Locker.ConfigLockerLoot]
MapGeneration.Distributors.LockerLoot[]

it replies with this

so yea

it does call and work fine

[upper vapor]

show the members too

[upper vapor]

so it doesn't

[celest thorn]

wdym=

[upper vapor]

"it works but there's no loot"
so it's not really working, is it

ugh

lovely sl

[celest thorn]

im logging Remaining uses

and target item

nope

its always the same

doesn't change at all

it just refuses to spawn them

[celest thorn]

yea it works fine

but no loot spawning

[upper vapor]

log out MinChamber MaxPerChamber

i'm guessing there's some tomfoolery there?

[celest thorn]

No

they work fine

if the first time they spawn

normally

why the second shouldn't

if they use same logic

[upper vapor]

right

any exceptions maybe?

[celest thorn]

none

Like WHY?

[upper vapor]

how about

you destroy the locker

and respawn the locker

[celest thorn]

It looks UGLY

asf

let me try the last of the last

@unique crane you know why the lockers cannot respawn loot a second time?

[unique crane]

No

[celest thorn]

Thats so sad

            foreach (MapGeneration.Distributors.Locker locker in ChambersOverride.Lockers)
            {
                if (locker == null)
                    continue;
                
                foreach (LockerChamber chamber in locker.Chambers)
                {
                    foreach (ItemPickupBase pickupBase in chamber.Content)
                    {
                        pickupBase.DestroySelf();
                    }

                    chamber.Content.Clear();
                    chamber.ToBeSpawned.Clear();
                }
                
                locker.ServerFillChambers();
            }

Im doing this

[worn gull]

What is the default max radius for a grenade?

And what is it measured in? 10 is quite small

[hearty shard]

Its ingame meters

You might wanna just check the animation curve urself and log it

Unless a nw dev whoops in and gives it

Wink wink

[worn gull]

And how can I force the radius to be the max?

[hearty shard]

wdym

[worn gull]

If I spawn a grenade and set the maxradius value for example to 50 then I will only get damage when I'm standing very very close to the grenade

[hearty shard]

Oh

Change the animation curve

_playerDamageDistance or smth

= new AnimationCurve and input your keyframes

Key is distance
Value is damage

Afaik

[worn gull]

Thanks I will try it

Working thanks

[slate flume]

Yeah that's what I did

[hearty shard]

also how basegame did it

[slate flume]

Yeah that's what SL did

[alpine glade]

Hi

[restive turret]

@wide thunder Yo i seen you thing, do you want your template to be added as a dotnet template?

[hearty shard]

Shh

[alpine glade]

Shh

[upper vapor]

what template

[restive turret]

https://github.com/aksueikava/LabApi.Plugin.Template

[upper vapor]

this is not exactly minimal though

also targets 4.8.1

(can't compile on linux)

[restive turret]

didnt we made this statement false?

i could compile it

or was net47

idk

[upper vapor]

4.8.1 is not developable on linux
4.8 is

gotta make an issue myself smh

this is NOT a const

[slate flume]

If I parent a primitive or LightSourceToy to a player will that sync with the client or will it be lagging a bit

[upper vapor]

it will be instant

if you parent to anything

[slate flume]

I mean when the player moves

Will it lag behind the player

Or stay on the player

[upper vapor]

yes, it should stay

[slate flume]

So there won't be any delay?

The client recognizes that the object is parented?

[upper vapor]

correct

[slate flume]

Dope so I could

[upper vapor]

it works with any netidentity

[slate flume]

Theoretically

Make a player model out of primitives that is larger than the pre-existing player model, attach it to a player's bones, and have a custom skin?

[upper vapor]

pretty much

[slate flume]

That's hype

[icy knoll]

does anyone know why when I <Reference /> a .dll, why everything inside of it becomes internal... if i use an assembly explorer it is public...

[slate flume]

Just don't <Reference /> a .dll and add it normally

Bozo

[icy knoll]

uh you add it normally by using Reference?

😭

[slate flume]

No

You right click references

And you click add reference

And then you select your .dll

And then it works

[icy knoll]

uh you realise that adds a <Reference /> to ur csproj right?

[slate flume]

Why do it manually

When you can do it automatically

[icy knoll]

because env vars

[slate flume]

If adding manually isn't working do manually

[icy knoll]

rider wont acknowledge your env vars

[slate flume]

Idk what you're talking about for environmental variables cause I've never had to worry about it

Why do you need these things

[teal junco]

i only do env vars manually just incase i wanna upload my plugin

but otherwise i just leave it

[teal junco]

so other people can use your code

[icy knoll]

because then people can maintain ur work without needing to change ur imports to the same place as their stuff?

😭

[slate flume]

Idk I've never used them cause I've never had to collaborate with anyone

And I don't have any public plugins

[icy knoll]

wait til you do, that'll be fun

[slate flume]

No

It won't

[upper vapor]

skill issue

[slate flume]

Waiting on someone to add my pull request, having them ignore it, then having to re-explain why it's important is not what I foresee for my future

[slate flume]

It's more of a skill issue that you have to collaborate with people lmao

[teal junco]

I've never collaborated before, but I have been asked about it once.

[slate flume]

^

This guy is based

Why rely on other people

Other people are unreliable

[teal junco]

I would like to collaborate at least once on an SL project. But I don't think I could be the reliable force I would want to be.

[slate flume]

I can just make everything myself

[upper vapor]

it's not just about collaborating with others, it's also to make people cloning your repo for any reason be able to build without random ass paths in your csproj

[slate flume]

Huh?

[teal junco]

Well, i do also have access to a repo, but i havent added anything to it yet.

[slate flume]

I've never used environment variables
I have no idea what they are, what they do, or how to use them

[upper vapor]

HintPath="../../../../../Downloads/slref/Assembly-CSharp.dll"

do you wanna see this in a public repo

[slate flume]

What else am I supposed to do

[upper vapor]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/blob/master/LabApi/LabApi.csproj

for example

[teal junco]

Environment variables are variables you set in your system that are replaced with another string automatically

thats how you can do PY from anywhere on your machine

[slate flume]

OH wait I understand now

[teal junco]

Basically, a variable called SL_REFERENCES (i think?) is set to your dll folder

[slate flume]

Cause I've changed the PATH before

[teal junco]

Oh yeah i think its called path as well.

[upper vapor]

yeah that's an env var too

[slate flume]

Eh I mean that's cool and all but you still have to publicize assemblies anyways

[upper vapor]

<Reference Include="Assembly-CSharp" Publicize="true" />

-# publicizer nuget package required

[celest thorn]

i still wonder will my locker work?

[slate flume]

Sounds about right

[slate flume]

How does serverfillchambers work

Did you ever check the source code for that

[celest thorn]

yes

and there's NO bool

or anything

nowhere

[slate flume]

Can you

Show

Maybe

[celest thorn]

what?

there's nothing more

[slate flume]

Show the source code sister

[celest thorn]

of what?

[slate flume]

ServerFillChambers lmao

I'm in Italy I can't just pull it up

I wanna see

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/xlk3yhic.png

and if you do wonder

[upper vapor]

at least you don't have every single dll in SL existence referenced, right?

[celest thorn]

no they don't get modified the Min and Max

[slate flume]

I just Ctrl + A, add
And then I safely remove assembly references to remove the ones I don't use

[slate flume]

What does FillChamber do

[upper vapor]

you had me in the first half

[celest thorn]

[HarmonyPatch(typeof(Locker), nameof(Locker.FillChamber))]
public class ChambersOverride
{
    public static HashSet<Locker> Lockers = new();
    
    public static bool Prefix(Locker __instance, LockerChamber ch)
    {
        if (!Game.Instance.Config.Loot.TryGetValue(__instance.StructureType, out List<ConfigLockerLoot> loots))
            return true;

        LockerLoot[] Loot = loots.Select(x => x.ToLockerLoot()).ToArray();
        
        List<int> list = ListPool<int>.Shared.Rent();
        for (int i = 0; i < Loot.Length; i++)
        {
            LockerLoot lockerLoot = Loot[i];
            if (lockerLoot.RemainingUses > 0)
            {
                for (int j = 0; j <= lockerLoot.ProbabilityPoints; j++)
                {
                    list.Add(i);
                }
            }
        }
        if (list.Count > 0)
        {
            int num = list[Random.Range(0, list.Count)];
            LockerLoot lockerLoot2 = Loot[num];

            int MinChamber = Game.Instance.Config.OverrideMinChambersToFill <= -1
                ? lockerLoot2.MinPerChamber
                : Game.Instance.Config.OverrideMinChambersToFill;
            
            int MaxPerChamber = HungerGamesMain.Instance.Config.OverrideMaxChambersToFill <= -1
                ? lockerLoot2.MaxPerChamber
                : Game.Instance.Config.OverrideMaxChambersToFill;
            
            ch.SpawnItem(lockerLoot2.TargetItem, Random.Range(MinChamber, MaxPerChamber + 1));
            lockerLoot2.RemainingUses--;
        }
        
        Lockers.Add(__instance);
        ListPool<int>.Shared.Return(list);
        return false;
    }
}

[slate flume]

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-love-hearts-gif-11873777560977160902

[slate flume]

Oh you patched it

Lovely

That totally doesn't make things more complicated

[celest thorn]

that makes thing easier

instead

FillChamber is called

correctly and works

just not spawning item

[slate flume]

If chambers aren't being populated the second go around then the problem is likely with your code and not NW code

And you asked David for help 💀

You literally patched FillChamber

[celest thorn]

my code is the exact same copy as nw one

just with some value changed

thats it

[slate flume]

That is objectively worse

Ever heard of a transpiler?

[celest thorn]

Idc

its not public

its not gonna be used for long

so who cares

[slate flume]

If you patched FillChamber and now code isn't working, then you can't say that it's a NW bug until you test it without your patches

This is like Day 1 troubleshooting

[celest thorn]

let me do that then

[slate flume]

Please do

[celest thorn]

Base game does the exact same thing

[slate flume]

Then it's a NW issue

[celest thorn]

i love

when this happens

[slate flume]

Can I see a screenshot of the base-game code so I can get a sense of what it looks like

I don't really know what part in your patch is you and what part is NW

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/1acspimf.png

[slate flume]

So given that your patch doesn't work it's unlikely that the problem is that Loot isn't resetting

Because I assume your patch isn't modifying the base config instance

[celest thorn]

no

and same issue happens if i disable the patch

so

[slate flume]

Yeah but my point is base-game the issue could've been that the Loot variable didn't reset, so the uses was never reset or something to that effect, causing no items to spawn

But in your case you get the Loot variable from your config

Have you tried adding copious amounts of logging

[celest thorn]

yes

and the code should work

[slate flume]

Is the problem that the item isn't spawning or that the loot isn't registering on the list

[celest thorn]

the item isn't spawning

the loot works fine

[slate flume]

Then you should check the SpawnItem code

[celest thorn]

you know whats funny?

[slate flume]

Wha

[celest thorn]

neither there is the issue

[slate flume]

So the pickup is being spawned

Just it's not spawning?

[celest thorn]

https://i.e-z.host/🐀/w07fi59h.png

[celest thorn]

no

it just doesn0t

[slate flume]

Oh it might just be the SpawnOnFirstChamberOpening

If the chamber has already been opened it can't open for the first time

[celest thorn]

I tried making it true

or false

[slate flume]

So the item doesn't spawn

[celest thorn]

nope

[slate flume]

So it calls .SpawnPickup?

And nothing is spawning?

[celest thorn]

no because the item doesn't spawn

even if closed

or open

[slate flume]

So it's not calling .SpawnPickup and you're wrong that the problem isn't SpawnItem

Did you add any logging at all to it?

[celest thorn]

yes

i did

[slate flume]

Patch it and log what happens

Then what is happening why doesn't it call .SpawnPickup

[celest thorn]

Idk

thats the same im wondering

[slate flume]

If you added logging you should know where it fails dude

That's the point of logging

Where is the code going if it's not calling .SpawnPickup

[celest thorn]

I finally did understand it

its complicated asf

but finally did

[slate flume]

What was the problem

[celest thorn]

Ok so

When it was regenerating the code was Oh this is the first time im sure the locker exist so lets do in ToBeSpawned
So after generating i need to loop again and do

                foreach (LockerChamber chamber in locker.Chambers)
                {
                    chamber.SpawnOnFirstChamberOpening = true;
                    chamber.OnFirstTimeOpen();
                }

[slate flume]

Fucking told you

I love being right

It's so gratifying

[celest thorn]

you know what else is

going to bed

[restive turret]

Zzzzzz

[dreamy yoke]

Been trying to play around with the "Wear Level" of Custom Keycards but i dont see a change if i enter random values. Any ideas?

[upper pike]

I think it can be pretty subtle on keycards but its much more obvious on the base facility cards like janitors or scientists

[celest thorn]

Its more obv in ntf cards

[upper pike]

I believe they only go from like 0-3

[celest thorn]

(its done for ntf so yea)

[upper pike]

So I publicised Assembly C-Sharp but now certain actions events in classes have ambiguous calls and I can't use them at all
Is this just something I'll have to work around or is there a fix?

[unique crane]

Use other publicizer

You used the exact one that causes this

[upper vapor]

AssemblyPublicizer is stupid

Use BepinEx.AssemblyPublicizer.MSBuild (NuGet and csproj integration)

[upper vapor]

this does not fully work yet

[icy knoll]

what is it with you and fuckin around with audio in this game 😭

[upper vapor]

I'm the audio guy

[icy knoll]

fair

[celest thorn]

when source code leak

[upper vapor]

In a few weeks maybe

YouTube has some funny things it does to keep you from directly streaming so I need to work around that

[spare zodiac]

wdym?

[upper vapor]

It's super simple if you're running on windows

[upper vapor]

Streams are segmented, meaning the video may be made up of multiple "sources"

It might also just terminate the current stream at some point

Just cuz

Then you need to get the next stream and continue playback where it left off

[unique crane]

Make the plugin spin up windows VM

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-think-the-rock-meme-gif-24810091

❌ WSL
✅ LSW

[unique crane]

What's like the most lightweight windows VM you can get

[icy knoll]

Any Windows LTSC probably

those include all the functionality you need

https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links

[slate flume]

Just don't use YouTube

[icy knoll]

you can only download audio streams from youtube, soundcloud or deezer

[slate flume]

Why

[icy knoll]

because spotify, apple music, and the rest don't have ways to do it properly

even if you reverse engineer, it's more hassle then it's worth

[slate flume]

Oh you're talking about just popular audio platforms

Nah I'm saying use something obscure

[icy knoll]

hm

[slate flume]

Quick question

Don't C# libraries already exist to download YouTube audio streams?

[unique crane]

Not every library is compatible with both Linux and Windows

[icy knoll]

yeah

some dependencies only work on windows

because that's the dotnet life for you

[upper vapor]

Drake laptop

[upper vapor]

I don't want to download the whole thing before starting playback though

[upper vapor]

it really is that simple (very few people use a windows vm to host their server)

you just have to get the url to the media stream :3

[icy knoll]

first time ive ever seen await using and do ... while ... in the same piece of code

[viral root]

Noobie question, but does LabApi include harmony?

[icy knoll]

no

[hearty shard]

nope

what is that username

💀

[viral root]

AHahahahah

[viral root]

So i need to put the harmony dll into the dependencies folder?

[icy knoll]

yes

[hearty shard]

yep

[viral root]

Thank you

[upper vapor]

[plain gazelle]

Does anyone have any good starting points in learning the Waypoint stuff?
To get started i basically just want a quad to stand on which moves a bit back and forth

I dont remember who made that one elevator platform that moves between surface elevator B and A

[slate flume]

So you're only downloading part of it currently and downloading the next part concurrently? So why is it such a problem that YouTube uses multiple links for multiple parts, doesn't that make your job easier?

[upper vapor]

Currently I'm not downloading anything

[slate flume]

You spawn a waypoint toy, and continuously move it

[slate flume]

Oh dope

[upper vapor]

Well, concatenation them is not so easy
Idk how these segments can be found so I'll have to work on that
The first url works for some time

[slate flume]

But that does bring me back to my point

What about like

The YouTubeExplode library

[upper vapor]

Drake laptop

I'll see what I can do

But for now I'm gonna try to improve the approach I have

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-megamind-prison-prison-walk-away-prison-leave-gif-2754128254034863595

[plain gazelle]

Is a Waypoint toy an empty game object? That i need to attach primitives to?
How do players become attached to the waypoint toy?

[slate flume]

Any player in a WaypointToy is automatically attached to it

You can attach primitives to it by parenting them to the object

Add some movement smoothing to the waypoint toy and you can smoothly move players and pickups and things

[plain gazelle]

Ooooo thank you!
I heard before that scaling a wpt leads to pickup scaling issues. Now with the new labapi something called bounds got introduced.
So i need to manually configure the bounds?

[slate flume]

Bounds are just the size of the waypointtoy afaik

I haven't tested it myself but I'm unsure why exactly they would use bounds when scale already existed for WaypointToys

For now I'd say just set Bounds equal to the Scale

[plain gazelle]

[slate flume]

Actually, this isn't a bad question

Why is WaypointToy bounds important and how is it different from just setting the scale of the toy?
Also does visualize bounds use scale or the new bounds

[plain gazelle]

Do some rooms really have a netId? Are they deletable? Even if its only some rooms, opening up map tiles for custom rooms instead of cramming them into existing ones would be so awesome

[upper vapor]

Scaling requires children to be readjusted, as well as pickups breaking

[plain gazelle]

iirc parenting stuff to a scaled parents is messy

[upper vapor]

You can set the parent using unity (.parent = transform) and resync the local transform if it's static

Though it is kinda unnecessary for children to be rescaled

[upper vapor]

You can delete TC-01 and another room I think

Yamato would know for sure

[hearty shard]

test room

old dog room

[upper vapor]

That was my guess

[hearty shard]

idk if its still networked

but that was what was said a while ago

13.x

[upper vapor]

Prevent map generation and build it all yourself

[unique crane]

914 too

I think

or at least scale it

[unique crane]

Still gotta fix the ton of issues it causes behind the scenes 😭

[upper vapor]

What issues

Like

Vanilla map still generating?

[unique crane]

That too

but

some else

Like exceptions being thrown

and such

But easier solution is most likely here to just...

[upper vapor]

No spoilers 😔

[unique crane]

generate it and then delete them all

XD

Let mirror do its mirror ids

[upper vapor]

My seconds

[unique crane]

Cause it cries

[unique crane]

Ill strip the code so you will never know

Problem solved

[upper vapor]

I will know if map generation suddenly takes significantly less amount of time

[unique crane]

I mean its fine on the server

no issues there

but client

[upper vapor]

So you're implying that... no client = no issues?

[hearty shard]

yes

[celest thorn]

hello everyone

[tepid sluice]

goodbye everyone

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/pyra-tea-xenoblade-chronicles2-gif-26108353

[tepid sluice]

sleep

[celest thorn]

gn

[tepid sluice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472407264700006420/1415710595331657749/tenor.gif

[celest thorn]

you remind me of inzi

that guy loves cats

[restive turret]

Nooooo dont leave me

[restive turret]

oh gn

[plain gazelle]

Sooooo, LCZ TC01, LCZ 914 and HCZ Testroom can be deleted and/or scaled and it will network those for clients? o.O

Does anyone have any pointers to get me started in attempting to do those three?

Building custom rooms that actually connect to the map instead of teleporters would be SO epic

[restive turret]

uhh good luck

[grand flower]

Don't think they're networked

since it's seeded map gen

the server and client just generate the map individually from what I was told

[restive turret]

ye it is based on seed.
you might able to remove some stuff that has networking but dont think any has

or i can check i guess

ye the room itself does not have any "NetworkTransform" or something to move around

[plain gazelle]

All three dont have anything network related? networkserver.destroy also wouldnt work ig then

[grand flower]

yeah you can't do what you're trying to do afaik

[restive turret]

most of them just light control or some like 079 cam stuff

so no

[plain gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-mario-phone-check-walk-gif-15818126186478764678

@unique crane Deleting entire containment zones/entire map + Spawning in the NetworkClient.prefabs Rooms actually working, when? 14.1.5? please? :3

[unique crane]

That is something that first requires approval

[plain gazelle]

i approve it

👍

[restive turret]

literally was faster you sent this msg i typed the same

[plain gazelle]

xD

[hearty shard]

slejm u suck

[plain gazelle]

TWO approvals already, like, how much more does he need

[slate flume]

I approve

Make it three

[hearty shard]

i disapprove

[plain gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/green-star-green-star-stick-poking-you-gif-7810375842125130469

kills you

[unique crane]

Well not from you xd

from Beryl

[plain gazelle]

which one do i have to ping

jk jk

[hearty shard]

@marble cobalt hi bestie

[plain gazelle]

:O

[hearty shard]

beryl the pizza

[plain gazelle]

Beryl you NEED to approve davids awesome idea of making it possible to stop a facility from spawning and letting us spawn in rooms individually with the NetworkClients.prefabs rooms

[unique crane]

Ill rather start with something (maybe) simpler

[plain gazelle]

[unique crane]

Like making the not facility generating properly

[magic gate]

the second one

[plain gazelle]

stroke me have

[unique crane]

Then perhaps send custom layouts?

[slate flume]

This already exists

[unique crane]

Does not work 100% of the time

[hearty shard]

Properly*

[slate flume]

MapGenerating -> ev.IsAllowed = false:

It still spawns in doors and shit though

The rooms themselves are gone

[plain gazelle]

[unique crane]

Thats what I said

properly

[hearty shard]

💀

[slate flume]

You said it doesn't work 100% of the time

That's not true

It works all the time, it just doesn't work fully

[unique crane]

No, sometimes it still generates it

[hearty shard]

Wpa

Woa

[slate flume]

In my experience, it always still generates it

Hence my original point

The problem isn't that the code is sometimes failing

It's always failing

You get what I mean?

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/pyra-tea-xenoblade-chronicles2-gif-26108353

^ this is what it means

[restive turret]

Drinking unknown fluid from a teacup?

[celest thorn]

tea?

what can you drink from a teacup???

[restive turret]

How would i know?

[hearty shard]

A lot

[celest thorn]

because its a TEAcup

[unique crane]

I drink only from cups

[restive turret]

I dont see the tea rendering in it

[celest thorn]

Ig its obv???

[unique crane]

I hate glasses

[restive turret]

A lot of things

[hearty shard]

And you can put more in it

[celest thorn]

Why should you put anything else in there?

[restive turret]

Personally i would love to drink some alcohol in them

Quite comfy

[celest thorn]

Bro you are an alcoholic

thats on you

[restive turret]

Hey

[hearty shard]

Valid

[restive turret]

I am not

I drink on occasions

Not every day

[celest thorn]

Bro you aren't even 18 so stop drinking

[celest thorn]

ngl thats a valid argument

but still drinking is bad

[hearty shard]

Dont care?

[hearty shard]

Womp

sjelm keep drinking

[celest thorn]

Crazy another alcoholic

[restive turret]

More things are bad for you tbh

[hearty shard]

Im not an alcoholic

[restive turret]

Even living kills your cells

[hearty shard]

I drink once every half year

And its like wine

[celest thorn]

i know

[hearty shard]

However

[celest thorn]

thats still acohol

[hearty shard]

I am old enough to make my own decisions

[restive turret]

Ob I have a perfect joke for you

[hearty shard]

I didnt deny that

[celest thorn]

Alot for me like smoking could kill me from even fucking simple dust

[hearty shard]

Im saying its low %

[celest thorn]

Oh then ig its fine

[hearty shard]

Besides we all know im the main character, the main character never dids

Dies

[celest thorn]

Yea sure keep dreaming

ngl none here is the main character

[hearty shard]

that being said, a slight bit of alcohol for a birthday isnt really gonna kill you unless you have a condition

I'd lowk be fine

[celest thorn]

i just don't drink in general

[restive turret]

At a university biology lecture, the professor is demonstrating the harmful effects of alcohol. He takes a glass, fills it with water, and another with whiskey. Then he takes two earthworms from a matchbox, puts one in the water, and the other in the whiskey. The first earthworm squirms merrily in the water, while the one in the alcohol squirms for a few seconds and sinks to the bottom of the glass. - Do you see? - the professor turns to the audience. - The earthworm in the alcohol is dead, while the other one seems to be fine. What do you think this proves? - A voice from the back row says, - that if you drink whiskey, you won't get worms.

[celest thorn]

AHAHAHHAAHA

ok ngl thats actually fine

btw from the original scene is presumable thats tea

but idk

idk if they have tea there, i think so?

else why would you use a teacup and not a glass?

[restive turret]

To draw less?

To not draw the glass

[celest thorn]

idk makes no sense

[celest thorn]

glass do exist in the game tho

its not even like they need to create an assets just for that

teacup are reused too

[celest thorn]

Nice :3

[icy knoll]

this is such a slejm meme

[celest thorn]

he postes only cats meme

so

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/914403380070330419/1371547051170726030/attachment-3.gif

i will push a dog meme

[restive turret]

You got me

[hearty shard]

You made me sneeze

[restive turret]

You're welcome

[celest thorn]

how many images do you have?

out of curiosity

[restive turret]

A LOT

[hearty shard]

Allergic to tou

You

[restive turret]

Awww

[celest thorn]

you should be allergic to yourself ngl

[restive turret]

Atleast like idk.
500 pic?

[celest thorn]

crazy

[hearty shard]

Yoo

[celest thorn]

Why do you have that...

[restive turret]

I have another collection of cats/animals that is ~100gb from vxug

[celest thorn]

100gb??????

[restive turret]

You want the zip?

[celest thorn]

no??

[restive turret]

Why??

[celest thorn]

because where tf do i put it

[restive turret]

On yo

Hdd?

[celest thorn]

i have just 255