and i need to test some shit
#plugins-dev-chat
limber silo
serverhost-cat
upper vapor
I wonder what's with the secretapi release khm
icy knoll
I wonder what's with the secretapi release khm
:3
hearty shard
I wonder what's with the secretapi release khm
guh
celest thorn
I wonder what's with the secretapi release khm
never
restive turret
serverhost-cat
Fake
unique crane
Birds are the best
restive turret
Pigeons aren't the best
static meteor
Birds are the best
Sometimes hummingbirds will come and say hello to me
Their wings are kinda loud
true cedar
dogs are awesome
slate flume
That's so incredibly based
restive turret
So real
restive turret
Happens to me too
tepid sluice
Kitty Kitty
restive turret
The Cuddle monster
static meteor
restive turret
Such a :3 face
tepid sluice
cat-discussion(real
restive turret
Basically what this chat usually is
upper vapor
The Cuddle monster
Did somebody call me?
celest thorn
(im gonna die if i touch it)
restive turret
Did somebody call me?
static meteor
who is this kitty
A clingy little creature
She dosent leave you alone if you give her any amount of attention
celest thorn
A clingy little creature
the clingy creature can stay away from me else i die
celest thorn
She dosent leave you alone if you give her any amount of attention
aww
spare zodiac
@celest thorn how many hours do you have on SL?
celest thorn
1870.5 hours
spare zodiac
I thought you would have more
celest thorn
nah it wasn't my server
just i was dev and was the only one who took care
until the owner destroyed it
spare zodiac
just i was dev and was the only one who took care
I am in the same situation rn
spare zodiac
hm
you don't seem to be in the same situation in my eyes tbh
I do not know your current situation though
but Czech community takes just this one big server
unique crane
I do not know your current situation though
8 at the best
with 7 of them being admins
hm
I hope they finish the localized server redo soon because right now its promoting monopol in smaller countries
celest thorn
I hope they finish the localized server redo soon because right now its promotin...
it has been like this for ages
random scaffold
dead chat well
glad pagoda
I hope they finish the localized server redo soon because right now its promotin...
now imagine how it'll look with queues too
restive turret
Eu ususally dead (both)
NA has a great think between 10 or full player
random scaffold
dead chat
spare zodiac
8 at the best
thing is you started. We're running 2 months and just don't have the time to be doing stuff on normal work days.
restive turret
thing is you started. We're running 2 months and just don't have the time to be ...
i agree , i got into PC at like 19
bc i sleep from 16 to 19
:D
modern lark
now imagine how it'll look with queues too <:kek:1414590414123696308>
You need players to take advantage of queues tbh :p
severe cave
how can I check if voicemessages were sent on a radio?
severe cave
how can I check if voicemessages were sent on a radio?
oh got it
restive turret
Radiovoicemessage
severe cave
I just checked if the player is using radio
restive turret
Eh can be done yes
severe cave
Radiovoicemessage
but thanks
restive turret
I think it has a dedicated voice message
restive turret
Somewhere inside InventorySystem.Items.Radio.
Has a struct the voice message is that i think
restive turret
The Cuddle monster
severe cave
When I am trying to save my display name and use it later this is what I get(and my name is not NOVAcolor=#855439*/color):
severe cave
When I am trying to save my display name and use it later this is what I get(and...
even better
my name is not colourly at all, but even if it were how can I prevent this and just straight up copying the name without these colour thingys
severe cave
brotato just fell asleep
restive turret
When I am trying to save my display name and use it later this is what I get(and...
It scripts <> char
As you see
shy karma
how could I make a gun be fully loaded after killing someone qwq
the only way I know is to patch harmony but that would not work for this scenario qwq
upper vapor
I think it has a dedicated voice message
you are delulu
upper vapor
When I am trying to save my display name and use it later this is what I get(and...
you can't have rich text in the nickname
upper vapor
how could I make a gun be fully loaded after killing someone qwq
you need to get the IPrimaryAmmoContainer module
severe cave
you can't have rich text in the nickname
It doesnt have at all
But somehow the displayname icludes the * and thats why that happened I think
upper vapor
But somehow the displayname icludes the * and thats why that happened I think
The client appends that to signify that the display name differs from the original nickname
celest thorn
Hello
upper vapor
@thin shuttle why did you upload exiled-only plugins to the labapi plugins website 
Is that even allowed?
celest thorn
Is that even allowed?
I don’t think so?
worthy rune
well, you could think of it as the plugin requires EXILED as a dependency and EXILED is a LabAPI plugin. which i dont think is a problem if other plugins have plugin dependencies
celest thorn
There’s no option for exiled
upper vapor
well, you could think of it as the plugin requires EXILED as a dependency and EX...
Right
Big dependency
worthy rune
iirc the rules are similar to posting plugins in https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1336031121699377213
celest thorn
well, you could think of it as the plugin requires EXILED as a dependency and EX...
People tho will try to install it on the labapi one not on the exiled one
Because 100% someone will think “oh its a dependency” installing exiled correctly and putting exiled plugins into labapi folder
upper vapor
iirc the rules are similar to posting plugins in https://discord.com/channels/33...
Uh
Then why is it called labapi-plugins
upper vapor
Because 100% someone will think “oh its a dependency” installing exiled correctl...
🗣️ 🗣️
We'll let at jesusqc decide I guess
celest thorn
We'll let at jesusqc decide I guess
The great question
worthy rune
Uh
Then why is it called labapi-plugins
well like i said EXILED is a LabAPI plugin, and you can think of it as having its own modules system to load its own modules. if we ban EXILED plugins we are pretty much saying that no plugin can have a module system where other devs can post their modules/extensions. which can apply to alot of things
i think the best solution would be for the website to provide away to specify that kind of thing
CC @limber silo
celest thorn
I do wonder who would do a modular system
upper vapor
It has many benefits
You don't need to install everything if you just want the most basic functionality
celest thorn
You don't need to install everything if you just want the most basic functionali...
Yea
upper vapor
See SecretLabNAudio, DiscordLab
icy knoll
I do wonder who would do a modular system
i do it for discordlab and textchat
celest thorn
True
celest thorn
i do it for discordlab and textchat
Text chat???
upper vapor
But labapi can already load multiple plugins located in the same dll
celest thorn
Why would text chat need it?
icy knoll
Why would text chat need it?
Discord webhook functionality
celest thorn
Discord webhook functionality
Oh really cool
thin shuttle
Because 100% someone will think “oh its a dependency” installing exiled correctl...
I will give a look to make warning for it
celest thorn
I will give a look to make warning for it
I mean its not your fault
If something like this happens
thin shuttle
I know but it's prevent this hazard
Of people misconceptions of dependency for Exiled
icy knoll
can you not say exiled is a dependency via the actual dependencies selection thing? lol
celest thorn
can you not say exiled is a dependency via the actual dependencies selection thi...
No.
icy knoll
why no period?
upper vapor
can you not say exiled is a dependency via the actual dependencies selection thi...
You can
But you have to install the Plugin made for exiled in a way different from labapi
random scaffold
dead chat
restive turret
can you not say exiled is a dependency via the actual dependencies selection thi...
The dependency plugin has to be added as Library
random scaffold
You're dead
and you
random scaffold
random scaffold
dead chat
random scaffold
dead chat again
slate flume
slate flume
https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-14757706294628220092
Why is your cat mogging
grave eagle
upper vapor
Are you made of risotto
grave eagle
Are you made of risotto
tepid sluice
blazing sphinx
I'm trying to spawn an HEGranade but it doesnt seem to neither be pickupable nor triggerable with another HEGranade
GameObject granade = UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate(Mirror.NetworkClient.prefabs.Values.First(x => x.name.Contains("HegPickup")));
Mirror.NetworkServer.Spawn(granade);
what am I missing / doing wrong?
hearty shard
I'm trying to spawn an HEGranade but it doesnt seem to neither be pickupable nor...
Pickup.Create or smth
upper vapor
use the labapi Grenade wrapper
hearty shard
or if you want it to start exploding: TimedGrenadeProjectile.SpawnActive(player.Position, ItemType.GrenadeHE, player, 0.1f);
upper vapor
you can't instantiate pickups this way
hearty shard
or if you want it to start exploding: ``TimedGrenadeProjectile.SpawnActive(playe...
otherwise Pickup.Create(ItemType.Medkit, player.Position).Spawn()
just spawns it like any other item where it can be picked up
upper vapor
otherwise ``Pickup.Create(ItemType.Medkit, player.Position).Spawn()``
Yeah that one if you want it to be a pickup
hearty shard
Yeah that one if you want it to be a pickup
true cedar
EVEEEEEE
teal junco
ive probably seen the most gay stickers when working with Scpsl than anything else
soft turtle
How to make a person invisible like in Exiled FpcRoles.IsInvisableFor?
hearty shard
ive probably seen the most gay stickers when working with Scpsl than anything el...
is that a gay sticker
celest thorn
How to make a person invisible like in Exiled FpcRoles.IsInvisableFor?
Use the event PlayerValidatedVisibilityEventArgs
teal junco
is that a gay sticker
I consider it so
hearty shard
How to make a person invisible like in Exiled FpcRoles.IsInvisableFor?
check what exiled does
celest thorn
check what exiled does
the only way on labapi is via the PlayerValidatedVisibilityEventArgs
which is far easier than whatever exiled is doing, because exiled requires patches
hearty shard
I consider it so
its a girl giving a thumbs up idk
teal junco
its a girl giving a thumbs up idk
Okay its not gay
i was gonna say something but i gtg
hearty shard
teal junco
ts gay
hearty shard
guh
soft turtle
Use the event PlayerValidatedVisibilityEventArgs
thx
static meteor
icy knoll
hehe
celest thorn
im web dev
aren't you just a QA?
icy knoll
no
celest thorn
that was what david said alot of time ago
icy knoll
that was what david said alot of time ago
david always forgets im web dev
celest thorn
david always forgets im web dev
crazy
restive turret
QA, Webdev, professional gaslighter
celest thorn
most unknown web dev
icy knoll
no, there is someone more unknown
celest thorn
david always forgets im web dev
Ngl you aren't like John Webdev
icy knoll
most web devs dont talk publically
icy knoll
Ngl you aren't like John Webdev
twix is john web dev for nw
restive turret
most web devs dont talk publically
bc they will be mocked or what?
celest thorn
twix is john web dev for nw
So what the fuck are you?
restive turret
they hiding in the shadows
icy knoll
bc they will be mocked or what?
nah
celest thorn
john webdev for sl?
celest thorn
what
celest thorn
im just a web dev
so you aren't a webdev for nw?
restive turret
sadge
soft turtle
Ambiguity between "ReferenceHub.OnPlayerRemoved" and "ReferenceHub.OnPlayerRemoved"
Does anyone know how to fix this?
I removed all dependencies except Assembly-CSharp but the error still remains
static meteor
Do you have a Assembly-csharp publicized also referenced?
soft turtle
maybe you have exiled?
Nope
restive turret
send/show your csproj
soft turtle
soft turtle
send/show your csproj
soft turtle
would be easier to just send the file
restive turret
wtf
restive turret
it does not even show any as you showed here
soft turtle
it does not even show any as you showed here
C# Magic
restive turret
no that doesnt even supposed to happen
do you have any .props or anything like that next to the csproj or next to sln
soft turtle
It's strange, the file has a weight
restive turret
check again
outside of your directory too
because idk how you even managed to import those without importing it inside of csporj
upper vapor
Ambiguity between "ReferenceHub.OnPlayerRemoved" and "ReferenceHub.OnPlayerRemov...
you're using a bad publicizer
use BepinEx.AssemblyPublicizer with MSBuild
restive turret
or just download from exiled works too
upper vapor
yea
soft turtle
you're using a bad publicizer
😭
soft turtle
or just download from exiled works too
How?
In ExMod Nuget, Assembly-CSharp is empty
restive turret
??
slender lynx
celest thorn
It's strange, the file has a weight
I think even philosopher asked the same question regarding if rocks had mass
restive turret
so funny seeing anyone who used html tags in github broken in the website
severe grail
How to spawn blood decals?
hearty shard
How to spawn blood decals?
theres a network message for decals
i dont remember specifically its name
severe grail
theres a network message for decals
Oh okay thanks i will look it up
hearty shard
searching decal should give u an answer tho
upper vapor
someone should make a F# LabAPI plugin
ah hell nawh
slate flume
searching decal should give u an answer tho
I'm surprised with how many people come in here with simple questions that can be completed by typing the thing they're looking for into their code and just using Intellisense or whatever they call that pop-up menu
Want to figure out respawn timer? Start typing Re... and it'll pop up what you want
upper vapor
Want to figure out respawn timer? Start typing Re... and it'll pop up what you w...
wait until you hear about visual studio
slate flume
wait until you hear about visual studio
Visual studio has it too
I know because I used it
Pretty much any self-respecting IDE has it
And any good IDE should also have either a decompiler or a decompiler extension for working with dependencies but I'm unsure if visual studio has it or not
But like rider has one and it's magnificent
static meteor
upper vapor
Visual studio has it too
yesterday my classmate started typing a class name
NOTHING showed up
ctrl+space? nothing
slate flume
yesterday my classmate started typing a class name
NOTHING showed up
Then they did something wrong cause visual studio has it
static meteor
Can confirm VS has intellisense
slate flume
idk how you get it to show then xd
It's built in
upper vapor
but it doesn't show automatically 😭
static meteor
idk how you get it to show then xd
Class.
slate flume
Can confirm VS has intellisense
slate flume
but it doesn't show automatically 😭
Yes it does
upper vapor
it doesn't show when you start typing a type name
like this
when you're on a new line
slate flume
it doesn't show when you start typing a type name
Fucking hell how many times do I have to say it
upper vapor
did you read what i sent
upper vapor
you have to type the full type name just for it to show suggestions
slate flume
And VS has it
upper vapor
i want autocomplete for types
slate flume
you have to type the full type name just for it to show suggestions
No you don't
upper vapor
for type names
slate flume
I don't have my laptop open I'm sitting in a hotel room in the UK
static meteor
static meteor
This one is
slate flume
You're just insane
upper vapor
i'm talking about inside methods
that it doesn't work
maybe something has to be really fucked up in the setup
but i know for a fact that the vs instances in my class don't show type suggestions when typing in a method
slate flume
You're complaining about VS not having a feature that it has
slate flume
i'm talking about inside methods
that it doesn't work
maybe something has to be ...
He just showed you both inside and outside of methods
slate flume
Inside
slate flume
This one is
Outside
static meteor
This was in a method
slate flume
if you don't have it you probably just need to change your Intellisense settings
But idk how you changed it in the first place because it's enabled by default
upper vapor
i didn't change it
i don't even use vs
i'm just malding when i see others not having type completion
how does it not work? idk
slate flume
VS has Intellisense which means type completion
static meteor
yesterday my classmate started typing a class name
NOTHING showed up
School install?
upper vapor
School install?
yeah
slate flume
My programming would be much more of a headache without it
static meteor
Oh idk then
upper vapor
bug? maybe
static meteor
VS moment ¯_(ツ)_/¯
upper vapor
i was just going off what i see from others
shitting on vs
(i do that every time i get a chance)
still, visual studio doesn't have that kind of type search Rider has with double shift
upper vapor
You're complaining about VS not having a feature that it has
i have a guess on why it might not work
cuz there was no using for the namespace of the type they wanted to use
static meteor
I love Intellisense
upper vapor
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177738904590360669/1416112553645314099/a...
can you try typing Culture and see if it suggests stuff
severe cave
cuz there was no using for the namespace of the type they wanted to use
I think intellisense automatically writes using namespace if it is not there
upper vapor
I think intellisense automatically writes using namespace if it is not there
uuummmm
show
celest thorn
someone wants water?
upper vapor
show me that it works
slate flume
Listen I dislike Visual Studio for a number of reasons, but I will not diss on its intellisense
slate flume
show me that it works
Bruh
slate flume
I don't have my laptop open I'm sitting in a hotel room in the UK
.
You really want me to get my laptop out just so I can embarrass your ass
Cause I will unpack my suitcase and prove you wrong if you're gonna be this insistent about it
upper vapor
you're the 3rd person i asked soooo
do if you want
now i simply asked to show if it happens, cuz the only place i've seen it is when it did not work
slate flume
Thank you sir
tepid sluice
Culture is what
upper vapor
whatare your using statements
upper vapor
hmm
slate flume
@restive turret thanks for the assist
slate flume
so maybe it's .net version dependent?
it did not work at school in .net 8
Dude you're overcomplicating the issue
restive turret
inside method btw
upper vapor
okay so
as you said if you start typing Re
with absolutely no using statements
will it suggest respawning types?
that was the initial argument
restive turret
😭
upper vapor
type Respawn
restive turret
slate flume
The issue isn't that it's .NET 8 or that it doesn't have Intellisense
If it didn't work at the school then either
- You're making it up
- You were wrong
- You were wrong and are making stuff up to cover yourself
- You're not wrong nor lying and the Visual Studio installation at school did something to disable Intellisense
upper vapor
my goodness
slate flume
You're trying to claim VS is bad by proxy because "Intellisense doesn't work with .NET 8" or some bullshit but the problem is just the installation the school has if you're telling the complete and honest truth
upper vapor
The issue isn't that it's .NET 8 or that it doesn't have Intellisense
If it did...
the answer is 4
but not all of intellisense is disabled
slate flume
the answer is 4
but not all of intellisense is disabled
Or the answer could be that you're misremembering something 🤷🏼
restive turret
maybe cus of these
slate flume
There are a lot of valid reason to hate on VS but not having Intellisense isn't one of them
upper vapor
okay recreate this
int.Parse("41,3535", <-- type here)
hearty shard
upper vapor
i mean i had VS just break its intellisense for like 2 days
lmfao
restive turret
in net8+?
hearty shard
and w rider i do get the culture stuff (inside a method)
upper vapor
either it's some sort of configuration issue or it is actually a bug
upper vapor
and w rider i do get the culture stuff (inside a method)
seems like another Rider W
hearty shard
restive turret
upper vapor
NOTHING
hearty shard
we sure do love loading everything in 2 lines
slate flume
NOTHING
Because Culture isn't available?
It's not imported
You can't do anything with it
upper vapor
It's not imported
see?
that's the issue
Rider shows it despite not being imported
restive turret
because it is not a traditional enum or stuff ?
upper vapor
start typing Culture where i said and no suggestions
slate flume
see?
that's the issue
Rider shows it despite not being imported
So it shows a .dll that isn't added as a dependency?
hearty shard
see?
that's the issue
Rider shows it despite not being imported
i mean the system reference exists, its just the using statement that isnt there
upper vapor
add using System.Globalization; and it should show (question mark)?
upper vapor
So it shows a .dll that isn't added as a dependency?
we're in .net 8
hearty shard
unless slejm disabled system references
restive turret
add `using System.Globalization;` and it should show (question mark)?
yes
upper vapor
System.Globalization is part of the SDK
hearty shard
implicit ones
hearty shard
System.Globalization is part of the SDK
u can disable them
upper vapor
just a simple console app
restive turret
upper vapor
and import manually
smh
restive turret
import deez.nuts
hearty shard
smh
its only rly needed to do that when ur manually using newer system libraries (eg from mscorlib.dll)
upper vapor
so, in that one scenario it does not work
type suggestions do work for SL use-cases
my argument of "well, you won't get type suggestions in VS if you just start typing the name" is wrong because i based it off one scenario
but we did discover that vs intellisense is still worse compared to Rider (in this aspect at least)
slate flume
so, in that one scenario it does not work
type suggestions do work for SL use-ca...
Just enable "Show items from unimported namespaces" in VS settings and it'll work
Rider has it enabled by default, VS doesn't, iirc
hearty shard
💀
upper vapor
Rider has it enabled by default, VS doesn't, iirc
why isn't it enabled by default
😭😭
copium squared
so it is a configuration issue after all
thanks microsfot
slate flume
Iirc
.NET 9 implicitly imports Globalization
.NET 8 doesn't
slate flume
why isn't it enabled by default
It prevents more bloat from Intellisense
upper vapor
Iirc
.NET 9 implicitly imports Globalization
.NET 8 doesn't
it does not
restive turret
no
upper vapor
It prevents more bloat from Intellisense
and makes DX worse
restive turret
this is net9
restive turret
and makes DX worse
directx
upper vapor
xd
restive turret
Just enable "Show items from unimported namespaces" in VS settings and it'll wor...
ok bro but WHERE
severe cave
visual studio settings
Whats wrong with it
slate flume
it does not
Or something with global usings mentioning it
upper vapor
Whats wrong with it
it looks so fucking horrible
restive turret
Or something with global usings mentioning it
doesnt mention it for me
hearty shard
it WHAT
slate flume
My point is .NET 8 is doing something where Globalization isn't imported but .NET 9 is
Or something similar
You enable the usings settings and it goes away
restive turret
My point is .NET 8 is doing something where Globalization isn't imported but .NE...
I using net9 project
do you see it?
upper vapor
My point is .NET 8 is doing something where Globalization isn't imported but .NE...
there's no global using for that neither in net8 nor net9
slejm attached the file of implicit usings but you can't see it
severe cave
it looks so fucking horrible
I ve no problem with it
slate flume
I using net9 project
do you see it?
Does the example work now with the setting turned on?
restive turret
Does the example work now with the setting turned on?
it was turned on when i searched it
upper vapor
so it is a bug then..?
upper vapor
try with the setting on again and screenshit
restive turret
might be because I have 2 VS code instance open?
upper vapor
might be because I have 2 VS code instance open?
huh
slate flume
then it has to be the default config
He said it was enabled already when he went into settings
severe cave
what even is going on
VS didnt feel like it
upper vapor
VS didnt feel like it
you what that kinda explains the situation
celest thorn
helo
spare zodiac
how could I make items that have set parent as the player's transform move immedietely without delay?
upper vapor
i guess you can try parenting the pickup
but
you have to make sure you destroy the pickup on the client too if the player leaves
dunno how well the position will sync though
spare zodiac
it's kinda far from me
upper vapor
well you're cooked in first person
spare zodiac
okay better one
upper vapor
recreate the model with primitives 
spare zodiac
recreate the model with primitives <:Smart:885618421763567647>
the main thing is I wanted it to be the items
upper vapor
item shit
spare zodiac
like does it have to be updated on client and server at the same time maybe
spare zodiac
yeah primitives are smooth asf with anything parented
I mean I can live with some X delay I guess
tepid sluice
who has mer?
ello
tepid sluice
oh i thought you was asking plugin
tepid sluice
Im just lazy to install that
celest thorn
Im just lazy to install that
nah i found a way to compile it
sacred sierra
is RueI usable rn? wanna switch from HSM but not sure cuz last release is called v3.0.0-alpha.2 and desc says do NOT use this on your live production servers
hearty shard
is RueI usable rn? wanna switch from HSM but not sure cuz last release is called...
2.0 works rn
idk the exact version number
but 2.x
there is 3.x but its in alpha rn and might not work
@true cedar ^
celest thorn
is RueI usable rn? wanna switch from HSM but not sure cuz last release is called...
2.0 works
tepid sluice
What's ruei's strength
hearty shard
What's ruei's strength
probably insanity
spare zodiac
making bubble gif rn
hearty shard
making bubble gif rn
bad
tepid sluice
probably insanity
What
spare zodiac
hearty shard
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/878752526546124880/1416152297955786822/at...
i disagree
true cedar
is RueI usable rn? wanna switch from HSM but not sure cuz last release is called...
u cna use that version should mostly work
tepid sluice
huh
true cedar
just dont use animatedvalues have not tested them
tepid sluice
it seems like im a bit don't awake
true cedar
probably
true cedar
use what
tepid sluice
RueI
true cedar
NOBODY GETS IT
tepid sluice
lol
tepid sluice
lmao
hearty shard
tepid sluice
So I've been writing this wrong for a long time lol
true cedar
i tried to make ruei v3 dead simple
tepid sluice
fully rework needed ig
true cedar
have u tried v3
tepid sluice
nah i don't use hint framework
true cedar
its good i think idk
teal junco
have u tried v3
is it documented
i remember being so lazy i just instantly gave up because i didnt know how to navigate v3
hearty shard
btw @true cedar can u make ruei 3 load quicker
make it highest priority ty
LoadPriority.Highest pls 
true cedar
whyyyy
hearty shard
whyyyy
because plugins that rely on ruei wont load reliably
me when missing dependency
besides it makes sure that ur stuff is loaded
before stuff that uses urs
tulip kiln
why is the ragdoll spawned event supplying the template instead of the created ragdoll? 😭
hearty shard
why is the ragdoll spawned event supplying the template instead of the created r...
bug prob
tulip kiln
I'll check if it's reported and I'll make a new issue because david will hate me if I just ping him
static meteor
why is the ragdoll spawned event supplying the template instead of the created r...
Transpiler patch it 
winged meteor
btw plugin devs
if you want to test plugins
set server to "offline mode:
so you don't need cent server auth
restive turret
I know, i been swapping on it when i wanna test without internet
true cedar
just dont use animatedvalues have not tested them
i have decided i will get v3 out
by the end of this month
pinky promise
cedar jungle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854107840498761747/1408738851912028181/ezgif-1-28fbec2f30.gif
static meteor
by the end of this month
true cedar
pinky promiseee
static meteor
magic gate
celest thorn
https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-cat-meme-meme-meme-cat-gif-14470917232397934693
bro go to your bed
hug it
and go sleepy mode
static meteor
upper vapor
<:Hmm:803387883720933396>
What the
celest thorn
https://tenor.com/view/steamhappy-steamsad-depression-gif-16712269959651793493
bro stop if you got that in your table, you just eat it
upper vapor
I don't like eating rabbits
celest thorn
I don't like eating rabbits
do you like horses?
like fucking hell if they are good asf
upper vapor
What
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if someone pointed at you and said "they're eating the cats, they're eating... they're eating the pets of the people that live there. and this is that's happening in our country, and it's a shame."
upper vapor
Horrified emoji
upper vapor
❌
upper vapor
i know
upper vapor
i tried and was severely disappointed
celest thorn
i tried and was severely disappointed
probably not good one ig
but yea one day you will find the good butcher
upper vapor
butcher me timbers
slender lynx
probably not good one ig
zero you gotta try being nicer to people
spare zodiac
how can I force player to turn on noclip?
icy knoll
how can I force player to turn on noclip?
Player::IsNoclipEnabled ?
idk if it has a setter
spare zodiac
noclip enabled is there
icy knoll
if there is no setter, see how the noclip command works
restive turret
Adminstat
celest thorn
Adminstat
you stole my moment ;(
i was about to say it
wait you can
Player::IsNoclipEnabled
is what i use
and it does force it
restive turret
restive turret
I don't have ig
celest thorn
I don't have ig
so sad no cat video
west niche
set??? O_o
upper vapor
Xd
restive turret
set??? O_o
Lmao make a git issue
upper vapor
Grammar
hearty shard
slejm prd it yesterday no?
cedar jungle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854107840498761747/1408738851912028181/ezgif-1-28fbec2f30.gif
hearty shard
So what's even the benefit of using exiled anymore
@thin shuttle ^
theres patch categories, some extra extensions and stuff
but yamato can prob say more idk
thin shuttle
we have some NW fix
very big API but LabAPI get similar but still less big
we also integrated some non basegame API like Keycard modifying propperty in next release
some Mirror stuff
we are preventing to maximum the breaking change from NW
But yeah Beryl have the same opinion of Exiled than me
hearty shard
ya
upper vapor
i support your static-instance item props thingy statement
hearty shard
exiled has a place, its just not smth id use
celest thorn
LabAPI is better because it doesn't patch anything and its just raw base game with sprinkles of wrapper
its a mid ground between raw and high
upper vapor
LabAPI is better because it doesn't patch anything and its just raw base game wi...
i want the events OUT
give me raw performance
celest thorn
i want the events OUT
LOl
upper vapor
upper vapor
how about we make it so we can choose events we want
nothing else gets called or anything
thin shuttle
LabAPI is better because it doesn't patch anything and its just raw base game wi...
Like i said some people use LabAPI for that reason but still use Exiled because we have DynamicPatching
and we have bigger API on some stuff
like DoorType
celest thorn
like DoorType
The most hated thing i don't like of labapi is just the DoorName
upper vapor
(not labapi's fault)
restive turret
Like i said some people use LabAPI for that reason but still use Exiled because ...
Ye i didnt know Dynamic Patching was a thing lel
celest thorn
ngl this song makes me cry
btw guys MARIO GALAXY REMASTERED :3
nintendo is tempting my wallet
celest thorn
i forgot about all of them
thin shuttle
yeah
that also good reason to keep using Exiled if you don't want to check them manually
we have a lot of Enum for different stuff to simplify the research
slate flume
Ye i didnt know Dynamic Patching was a thing lel
What is dynamic patching
slate flume
we have a lot of Enum for different stuff to simplify the research
Eh that's more-so a beginner crutch
Imo
thin shuttle
What is dynamic patching
it's like not patching things we don't use
slate flume
it's like not patching things we don't use
Oh dope
thin shuttle
we keep forced patched some because it's needed in the case to fix bug for example or for some propperty than Exiled API have
slate flume
Eh that's more-so a beginner crutch
I pretty much never have problems finding what I need
Everything you want tends to be pretty easy when you know what you're doing
slate flume
we keep forced patched some because it's needed in the case to fix bug for examp...
I heard you're rolling out a dupe fix for 914
Just don't forget to remove it next update
thin shuttle
Just don't forget to remove it next update
that will not be a problem even if we do not remove it
^^
or we will see it imediatelly
by error
slate flume
that will not be a problem even if we do not remove it
Eh 50/50
Depending on how you structure your transpiler it might silently fail next update and break some stuff
When your code becomes obsolete, don't rely on "Eh, it'll be fine" or "I'll see an error" because that's not always the case
thin shuttle
Eh 50/50
Depending on how you structure your transpiler it might silently fail n...
yeah
slate flume
I mean I trust myself to write pretty good transpilers because the ones I've written work through multiple updates (and still do work), but I know EXILED and other mainstream APIs and plugins have a bad track record with them
I took some really important tips to heart about it and it impacts how I make them
thin shuttle
I mean I trust myself to write pretty good transpilers because the ones I've wri...
actually it's might probably doing a NRE
slate flume
actually it's might probably doing a NRE
Transpilers breaking don't always give exceptions
The IL code can be valid, but cause issues when the surrounding code is updated
upper vapor
it might silently fail next update and break some stuff
hello there
thin shuttle
> it might silently fail next update and break some stuff
hello there
yeeah
that what i said probably NRE for our case
upper vapor
me when NW changes a method parameter but instead of the IL not compiling it just shits itself at runtime
thin shuttle
me when NW changes a method parameter but instead of the IL not compiling it jus...
that funny :)
slate flume
Marginally
Not funny for the people using your API
All you gotta do is just remember to remove it next update
thin shuttle
sure
that what we do
we now have a QA server
so it's will be more easy to testing stuff with big ammount of people
ashen hound
game updates, theres patch on network code, patch breaks, client crashes
thin shuttle
~~game updates~~, theres patch on network code, patch breaks, client crashes
could you fix this Flag Enum ?
simple modify None to use 0
and keep the other as it is so no breaking change
the actual game will have 0 when nothing is enabled
instead of None
thin shuttle
~~game updates~~, theres patch on network code, patch breaks, client crashes
Yeah that when crash occurs it's usually a mirror stuff
other than that it's more often NRE
or spam NRE
slate flume
could you fix this Flag Enum ?
LabAPI issues 
thin shuttle
LabAPI issues <:troll:772531162307362828>
no that SCP:SL
issue
i did fix it in Exiled Enum
slate flume
no that SCP:SL
issue
Make a request for it in LabAPI
If it's not a bug with SL then you request it in the LabAPI issues form on the github
grand flower
@limber silo https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/116 is this in the upcoming update?
hearty shard
<@430960270433845249> https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/116 is ...
i dont believe patchnote said so
so prob not
icy knoll
i dont believe patchnote said so
patchnotes don't say stuff that comes from labapi anymore afaik
you'll have to wait for jesus to release his own
hearty shard
patchnotes don't say stuff that comes from labapi anymore afaik
maybe
icy knoll
tbh, not labapi specific thing
hearty shard
also client side reload check is gone
icy knoll
eh well, i know atleast some events got added and none got put in the changelog
so
yeah
icy knoll
cuz its cool
i agree
hearty shard
ya
slate flume
So will the new LabAPI be rolled out on all servers or will we only be able to use it fully next update?
hearty shard
So will the new LabAPI be rolled out on all servers or will we only be able to u...
Next update
hearty shard
Labapi updates with SL
restive turret
Because scp173 teleport is not synced with client so cannot be done
Wait
Idk who to tag about it so
The distance you teleport to is including the red "goto" model too?
restive turret
Every player can vanish? Lol
ashen hound
w
slate flume
Next update
So if it's released in a few days, does that means SL is too?
restive turret
So if it's released in a few days, does that means SL is too?
Client release at same time when early server come live
slate flume
Client release at same time when early server come live
What does this mean
slate flume
LabAPI is releasing in a few days
In order for it to be released it means SL has to have a release, no?
restive turret
Early server go to live, means client go to live same time
restive turret
LabAPI is releasing in a few days
In order for it to be released it means SL has...
Yes
slate flume
LabAPI is releasing in a few days
In order for it to be released it means SL has...
Which means SL is getting updated
Okay
restive turret
Its been that way since I joined
static meteor
Server owners got a beta password
restive turret
Finally something positive
static meteor
slate flume
I just wanted to make sure that the LabAPI update means SL update cause there is nothing in #game-announcements
slate flume
Dope
static meteor
Usually LabAPI update means client update too
restive turret
If not just someone accidentally fucked up the xml 
slate flume
ashen hound
if this happens for everyone then waypoints yeah
sometimes client can have mismatch of ids or stuff
slate flume
Just seems like waypoint fuckery
So if I accidentally have a stale static WaypointToy around it could cause issues like this?
grand flower
Possibly
celest thorn
hello world
upper vapor
no nuget 
celest thorn
no nuget <:BOOM:826206529358659655>
no chicken nugget for you
slate flume
Possibly
I'm very confused cause anytime I make a WaypointToy I've destroyed it after about 15 seconds, and I only do it with a custom item
celest thorn
I'm very confused cause anytime I make a WaypointToy I've destroyed it after abo...
probably the client says nuh uh
sometimes it happens to me when i try to destroy schematics
they just don't disappear
slate flume
probably the client says nuh uh
Any way to fix that?
celest thorn
Any way to fix that?
The best way i fixed it was a coroutine and sending it with a formula i invented based on the tps
and that worked
but tanks the tps so i really never used it
slate flume
Lmao what did you do
celest thorn
i did a coroutine
but because of the amount of lovely primitive
this made the server lag
slate flume
i did a coroutine
No shit
I want to fix this but these vague ideas of "I made a coroutine" aren't helpful
celest thorn
just delete them 1 second after deleting the item
slate flume
just delete them 1 second after deleting the item
So why did your coroutine need server TPS and cause lag
celest thorn
So why did your coroutine need server TPS and cause lag
I did it because so i could delete in batches
celest thorn
based on tps and calculate the time for the next to batch to delete
slate flume
So it's like I destroy the waypoint toy on the server, then send the object destroyed message on a delay?
celest thorn
So it's like I destroy the waypoint toy on the server, then send the object dest...
No you just destroy it after 1 second
my theory on why this happens is just mirror ignoring one
and just forgetting
because else i have 0 explanation on why
slate flume
No you just destroy it after 1 second
So you destroy it once and then destroy it again after a delay?
celest thorn
So you destroy it once and then destroy it again after a delay?
Destroy Item => 1s Delay => Destroy Toy
slate flume
What is the difference between the item and the toy
Ig that's the part I don't really get
celest thorn
Destroy is for both the same message
and idk why
if you send multiple at the same time
the client sometimes reject one
and delaying it seems to be working
slate flume
Destroy is for both the same message
Yeah but what is the WaypointToy "item"
celest thorn
Yeah but what is the WaypointToy "item"
i don't understand
you don't know the waypoint?
slate flume
WaypointToys are an AdminToy, I get that
I don't understand what it means to destroy the "item" and then destroy the "toy"
celest thorn
So Mirror
shares a packet message
called DestroyMessage
this is called for everything that is destroyed on the server (if isServer = true it doesn't)
celest thorn
and so
my thinking is
you are getting the same problem as me
with sometimes the SL client saying Nuh uh
i don't destroy that
slate flume
Yes I get that
celest thorn
but i do destroy the gun
grand flower
I'm very confused cause anytime I make a WaypointToy I've destroyed it after abo...
Idk how the toys work
slate flume
but i do destroy the gun
Gun?
grand flower
I've rambled about the whole waypoint system enough heh, I don't like it
slate flume
No no you misunderstand
The problem is not with item pickups
That was never the problem lmao
slate flume
Any idea how something like this happens?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachmen...
This is the problem
celest thorn
yea
and im telling you
when you destroy the Waypoint
just delay it of 1
and that should always fix the issue
celest thorn
ok so
celest thorn
I'm very confused cause anytime I make a WaypointToy I've destroyed it after abo...
.
slate flume
The waypoint toys are spawned with a grenade explosion, and disappear after 15 seconds
celest thorn
The waypoint toys are spawned with a grenade explosion, and disappear after 15 s...
then idk
check
how do you destroy them?
slate flume
Whenever a player enters the radius, I add them to the dictionary with a new WaypointToy
If the player was already in radius I skip making it
Once the routine is finished, I go through all the dictionary values and destroy the Toys
celest thorn
maybe
again one of the toys is not being destroyed for the client
as i said before
when you delete alot of stuff this happens
slate flume
What happens if I send an object destroy message when the object is already destroyed
slate flume
So stagger deleting all of my WaypointToys?
celest thorn
if you are doing it all in one time
instead just
delete => 1s => loop => delete => 1s
and so on
slate flume
That's so crazy that this is an issue
celest thorn
idk who's fault it is
but i found this as a solution
but makes lag so if the player sees them
i just say "networking skill issues"
celest thorn
Why does mirror do this
UDP is made to be like this
you don't know if the data you are sending is going to arrive
slate flume
That's really stupid
celest thorn
(thats why desync exist)
celest thorn
That's really stupid
instead it isn't
because reliability means slower
and games wouldn't be possible
grand flower
Wat
slate flume
Yeah but if it's to the point where it's entirely dropping packets then something's wrong
celest thorn
There's reliability layers added on top
obv but udp isn't reliable
on if the data is sent