plugins-dev-chat

[slate flume]

Why not collect donations for the tournament instead of relying on micro transactions

[celest thorn]

and they are real lol

[celest thorn]

Because tournamnets happen 3 a year?

[slate flume]

Prize pool

[celest thorn]

I was thinking of a solution

for tourneys

but still need to be talked obv

[celest thorn]

where tf we get the money

[slate flume]

Entry fee

[celest thorn]

I don't think marketing would like that

its a bad pr move ngl

[slate flume]

It's how a lot of tournaments do it

[celest thorn]

Obv

but we aren't the one making the rules

lol

[slate flume]

My main point is just there's other ways to get money for a tournament
Your way isn't bad but my point is that to me micro transactions is an interesting choice for an SL server

[celest thorn]

But its not bad micro transaction

thats the point im doing

its totally optional

[slate flume]

I know that

[celest thorn]

because you can still play the game and enjoy everything or even getting items

[slate flume]

It's still micro transactions which is very odd to me for SL

[celest thorn]

they are cheap

[celest thorn]

Even patreon can be counted as a micro transaction

[slate flume]

I get why, it's a valid reason, it's not predatory, but it's odd

[slate flume]

I disagree

Fundamentally

[celest thorn]

you do it monthly

thats it

[slate flume]

Patreon is about supporting/donating, on some servers there aren't express benefits for doing it

[celest thorn]

obv

[slate flume]

Micro transactions deviate in intention

[celest thorn]

honestly

patreon is more predatory

because i know for a fact because i did plugins for server

that alot of them

do sell patreon with p2w intentions

even yesterday someone dmed me for doing a plugin like that

which i find disgusting

[slate flume]

Patreon can be more predatory

That doesn't mean it is more predatory

[celest thorn]

Most server do use it like that

[slate flume]

Micro transactions can be more predatory

[celest thorn]

I don't have a number to back it up obv

[celest thorn]

But this one aren't done with the evil trust me

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/rfj65boe.png

tickets are cheap asf

with just the 7.99 you can buy the entire shop

already

so imagine

[slate flume]

You're defending an argument I'm not making

[celest thorn]

and + we have a bundle system in place and a system for giving sales

[celest thorn]

i know

[slate flume]

My argument isn't that micro transactions are predatory or even that your transactions are predatory

I just think it's weird

That's it

[celest thorn]

honestly its because sl has never seen them

but on other games this are normal

or even worst

sl has only seen patreon

[slate flume]

Partially that and partially because it's server-specific

In most games micro transactions are global

[celest thorn]

no?

Rust

[slender lynx]

the fuck are you on abt

[celest thorn]

lol

[slender lynx]

8 euros for a docker on a server mabye

[slate flume]

That's about what I pay for LudoHosting

[slender lynx]

yeah cuz thats one docker

[slate flume]

Exactly

[slender lynx]

not a server

[celest thorn]

we don't host only a docker lol

[slate flume]

It's an SL server, not the server hardware itself

[slate flume]

Never played

[celest thorn]

we host db, website, SL servers, Projects we are working

so thats why

[slate flume]

They have micro transactions in rust?

[celest thorn]

yes.

[slender lynx]

just skins

[celest thorn]

no but server

do have kits

and other stuff

like donator etc...

[slender lynx]

thats not rust itself then

[teal junco]

how do you even do that

[celest thorn]

yea but .

[teal junco]

i know what round robin is

i just dont really understand how to implement it

[slender lynx]

only forced microtransaction is the arctic set

arctic suit for hazzy is busted

[celest thorn]

honestly if we wanted to make ALOT of money

bro you know what

sell currency

and gambling for skins

thats like peak money

but the most horrible thing ever

im totally against

[slender lynx]

im tellin you just put loot boxes in the parkour server

ezpz

[celest thorn]

No

[slate flume]

Add loot boxes

[celest thorn]

Bro you are the ONE SAYING ITS ASS PREDATORY SHIT

AND YOU ARE SAYING TO ADD LOOTBOX

Nah

[hearty shard]

me when sarcasm exists

[celest thorn]

Shut up

[slender lynx]

oh no this is full serious

[celest thorn]

and go back in the darkness

[slender lynx]

gambling is like

free money

[celest thorn]

maro IM NEVER adding anything near to a lootbox

[slender lynx]

im well aware you arent

[hearty shard]

i will then

[celest thorn]

1. Because its a legal gray area in the EU

[hearty shard]

ty for idea

[grand flower]

#plugins-dev-chat message

[celest thorn]

i guess none cares because who tf is going to buy them or even see them

on a dead server

[slender lynx]

the joys of not hosting basegame

[teal junco]

well yeah i read about round robin i just dont know how youre supposed to add it

i can look into it later on my own i guess

[celest thorn]

yea that works flawless lol

ngl the game is more optimized

[teal junco]

is there a class called server position distributor or something

[celest thorn]

yea

you guessed the name already

[teal junco]

Oh okau

then just patch or something

[teal junco]

ty

[celest thorn]

you need to a bit check the code

honestly

if you scroll up you can see the exact code i did

honestly

just wait

[grand flower]

sec

I'll send

[celest thorn]

[HarmonyPatch(typeof(FpcServerPositionDistributor), nameof(FpcServerPositionDistributor.GetNewSyncData))]
public class CachingRelativePatch
{
    public static Dictionary<ReferenceHub, RelativePosition> Positions = [];
    
    private static bool Prefix(ReferenceHub receiver, ReferenceHub target, FirstPersonMovementModule fpmm, bool isInvisible, ref FpcSyncData __result)
    {
        if (!Positions.TryGetValue(target, out var position))
            position = Positions[target] = new RelativePosition(target.transform.position);
        
        FpcSyncData prevSyncData = FpcServerPositionDistributor.GetPrevSyncData(receiver, target);
        __result = isInvisible ? default(FpcSyncData) : new FpcSyncData(prevSyncData, fpmm.SyncMovementState, fpmm.IsGrounded, position, fpmm.MouseLook);
        FpcServerPositionDistributor.PreviouslySent[receiver.netId][target.netId] = __result;
        return false;
    }
}

[HarmonyPatch(typeof(FpcServerPositionDistributor), nameof(FpcServerPositionDistributor.WriteAll))]
public class ClearCache
{
    private static bool Prefix(ReferenceHub receiver, NetworkWriter writer)
    {
        CachingRelativePatch.Positions.Clear();
        return true;
    }
    
}

here

[grand flower]

bad

[celest thorn]

what?

[grand flower]

It's a hot path

Transpilers are better

[celest thorn]

i know

[spare zodiac]

there is too many custom item api's now

[celest thorn]

if you have the transpiler one send it

[celest thorn]

I need to make MeowCustomItems

and MeowCustomRoles

lol

(I WILL NEVER DO THAT)

[upper vapor]

CustoMeowtems

[celest thorn]

how tf i came up with meow

[grand flower]

@celest thorn @teal junco

[celest thorn]

is still a question

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/technology-copy-word-copy-paste-gif-13993009

[teal junco]

How many are there

[spare zodiac]

was HintServiceMeow before?

[celest thorn]

Yea

[spare zodiac]

I think like 7

[teal junco]

thank you v much

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/ifj4td8r.png

[teal junco]

damn!! wtf

[celest thorn]

isLoaded to == null works the same

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/wsww5ll6.png

best pr

[slender lynx]

@celest thorn what is this skibidi ass push

[celest thorn]

Crazy you saying skibidi is out of character especially in public

[slender lynx]

i just got back from the gym and im boutta pass out

[celest thorn]

crazy

[spare zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1407799226477445193/1411391785887858888/attachment.gif

[celest thorn]

THATS ME DAILY

can someone please fix

[spare zodiac]

Is Hubert still working on SL?

[celest thorn]

Schrödinger's server and sr spam

[spare zodiac]

haven't heard from him in a while

[celest thorn]

yea?

[slate flume]

Based cyn moment

[slate flume]

I'm a firm believer that any self-respecting dev should make their own

[spare zodiac]

of course they are

[spare zodiac]

it takes some time and fucking around, but you learn some things about this game

[slate flume]

Yep!

You also learn a lot about C#

I've had probably 4 different iterations of my custom item API now

I constantly go back and rework stuff

[spare zodiac]

my first plugin has one loop with 6 foreach inside

for config

[slate flume]

I'm currently using a method with a generic abstract base class to keep implicit separate static dictionaries for data in my custom item classes

.

[spare zodiac]

I made myself many options to override to simplify creating items

like light colour or what schematic model to use

[celest thorn]

i've just made one

and its fine for me

lol

[slate flume]

Oh interesting

I don't use schematics for mine, I base them off of existing guns and stuff

[spare zodiac]

try to code saving item into yaml and then back into original state

spent some time doing that

[slate flume]

I have like 5 things every item has to define
Name
Description
Color
Rarity
ItemType

[spare zodiac]

I also implemented full 914 support

[slate flume]

Outside of that, you just have to add your associated events/patches and then you have a custom item

[spare zodiac]

what patches did you need to create your system?

or did you use some for X instance of customItem?

[slate flume]

The custom item system itself required 0 patches

Some of the items need some patches but that's on an item-by-item basis

[spare zodiac]

did you also make property MaxAmmo?

[royal mica]

Can you get the current slot the item is in?

or modify that at all? or is that clientside only

[static meteor]

I think you can get the current slot but modifying it i think is clientside

Never tried so idk

[unique crane]

It is client side

[spare zodiac]

you theoretically can

but would have to guess a lot of times iirc you can't get the item's slot

[spare zodiac]

btw why's that?

[unique crane]

Because we dont force the inventory items anywhere?

Why would we add that ever before

[celest thorn]

btw i have a question

will ever fist be added?

fist fight

[unique crane]

Im playing phasmo so less answer time

[unique crane]

Nothing I would know of

[celest thorn]

ngl have fun playing phasmo

hope you catch the ghost

https://tenor.com/view/ghostbusters-unlicensed-nuclear-accelerator-gif-4574047553995632691

[celest thorn]

yo anyone alive?

[static meteor]

No

[warped prairie]

na

its over

45 tps saying optimise -> us who runs at basically 30tps

[slate flume]

I handle that on a case by case basis

[slate flume]

I mean theoretically you can but it's a fucked up system
When you give a player items it starts from the first slot, so if you give them items and use other items as placeholders, then you can modify the position of any item in their inventory

Drop items -> give them back in whatever order with fillers -> delete fillers

[slate flume]

If this is true then you can get and modify the position of any item in the player's inventory

[royal mica]

I need the slot number tbh

[slate flume]

Yeah getting it is the harder part

I would root around the code but I'm on an airplane atm

I mean you'd think that even if it's client side you could view where the items are

The server should have access to the same information as the client, no?

[royal mica]

The problem is the only code I found is just client sided

no server side impl touches slots

I mean technically it can be just client sided

[slate flume]

Client side code should be running on the server and on the client
Patch it to get the information you need, modify it with the aforementioned method

[slate flume]

At least in my experience patching client side code I'm able to get information but not modify it

[royal mica]

It literally uses GUI code so that does not work

atleast I think

[slate flume]

Damn nvm then

I mean

Add logging to it

See what happens

[royal mica]

Will try tomorrow

[slate flume]

[hearty shard]

You get the list of items
But if client says "eh ill put this item in another slot" that doesnt tell server anything

Only that they still have the item because they didnt try to drop it

[slate flume]

You know that makes me sad

[icy knoll]

is there a way to reset rooms like light armoury? i.e. respawn all their stuff?

[static meteor]

Maybe something like
ItemDistributor::PlaceSpawnables()

[icy knoll]

yeah i just have to figure out if ItemDistributor is a child or it is a RoomIdentifier or smth

idk

ah it's a component

inherits MonoBehaviour

[icy knoll]

ugh why can't we destory data stores, i really wish we could

number 1 issue with them rn really

[teal junco]

@slate flume worked thank you

of course it obviously needs some tweaking but mostly it worked

sticky items

[upper vapor]

Not possible, the client can move the items whenever they want
Best you can do is delete and resend the items but sometimes the order gets reversed

[spare zodiac]

did you handle collisions againt walls yet?

[teal junco]

wdym

[spare zodiac]

that the car doesn't go through

[teal junco]

Yes

it is a rigidbody

[spare zodiac]

do you have any videos?

[celest thorn]

Hello chat

[slate flume]

Damnnn that's tuff

Glad my suggestions have been working out! :)

[slate flume]

This code is obsolete and does nothing in the latest game version

[celest thorn]

What???

I did test it on this version and it worked fine

[worthy rune]

it may work, but its not doing anything as rel pos caching was implemented into the base-game

[celest thorn]

Crazy

I didn’t see it last time i’ve checked that class was possible last update

Or more

I don’t remember

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/rrts-delhi-metro-did-you-ping-me-do-not-disturb-high-speed-train-delhi-india-gif-5895492950210519474

[icy knoll]

ok turbo, slow down smh

[celest thorn]

Always trains...

Nothing else

[upper vapor]

are you jealous that i have a hobby or are you pissed cuz i posted this

[celest thorn]

no?

nothing of the 2 lol

i don't care

[upper vapor]

then what's your problem 😭

[celest thorn]

Nothing

just saying always trains

lol

[upper vapor]

rage bait be like

[celest thorn]

im not even rage baiting

im just saying always trains

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

you know you are perfect for exiled

[icy knoll]

destroy rage bait, embrace joy bait

[celest thorn]

there you find ALOT of train entusiast

[celest thorn]

Crazy

[upper vapor]

peak

[upper vapor]

hmm

[celest thorn]

ngl i don't understand why you guys are trying to argue im ragebaiting when im just saying "always trains..."

pointing out how its always gifs of trains and nothing else

[upper vapor]

very bold statement

[icy knoll]

hey hey hey

allow ax to like trains

i like trains too

they are awesome

[celest thorn]

im not saying anything about that

idc

[upper vapor]

she isn't stopping me but like

[celest thorn]

i just pointed out how its always trains gif

[upper vapor]

"always trains" is a big thing to say

[celest thorn]

no?

knowing you are doing a game about hungarian trains

you love trains

im just saying "always trains..."

btw i do have a hobby and that is playing story games or singleplayer games

[upper vapor]

that's like me saying "always meoweditor"
you don't talk about meoweditor 100% of the time and send 100% meoweditor gifs

[celest thorn]

when i see you send a gif its a train 90% of the time

[upper vapor]

well go enjoy that
but i'm not gonna say "always story games" if you post a gif or something about those

cuz it's not true

[celest thorn]

1. because its just not one game lol, so its impossible to find gif for all of the games i've played

[celest thorn]

has:image counts even non-gif

so code

[upper vapor]

search it yourself

[celest thorn]

etc...

[upper vapor]

okay

[celest thorn]

fr you never sent them

[icy knoll]

why do you genuinely care about ax sending train gifs?

seems silly

[celest thorn]

lol so am i crazy

[celest thorn]

I don't care if he likes train i just always connect someone to something

and i just said "always trains..."

[icy knoll]

you dont always need to raise a point though

[celest thorn]

thats it not negative, nothing lol

[icy knoll]

i agree with ax that it seemed like you disliked the fact

[upper vapor]

yes, but that doesn't mean that's all i live for

[upper vapor]

alright

[celest thorn]

idk why you lumi thinks anyone is attacking anyone lol

[hearty shard]

hi axe

[celest thorn]

i just pointed something and i was proven wrong lol

[upper vapor]

axe tusfürdő

[hearty shard]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-styrofoam-rip-meme-enough-gif-1595643052329796396

this is my revenge

[icy knoll]

@ lucid

[celest thorn]

soap?

[upper vapor]

😭😭

baba is good ngl

[hearty shard]

oh yeah axe

did you ever end up using secretapi

[upper vapor]

the

[hearty shard]

[upper vapor]

not perfume

[upper vapor]

ye

still got my

2 settings

added new ones though

and it's dynamic

works well

[hearty shard]

omg it works?!?!!

[hearty shard]

wdym btw

[upper vapor]

for the plugin i'm working on

it's not just 2 settings now kek

[hearty shard]

which plugin was it

i forgot

[upper vapor]

scp proximity chat

[hearty shard]

oh

right

[icy knoll]

omg ur still working on it...

[upper vapor]

gotta release it smh

[celest thorn]

i mean its not already done countless of time?

[icy knoll]

i thought you basically finished it 😭

[upper vapor]

i'm procrastinating on it

[icy knoll]

ax has made a performant version

[celest thorn]

oh so using speakers?

[upper vapor]

not really with speakers thoughú

[upper vapor]

i'm not sure about the performance

[upper vapor]

ye

[celest thorn]

i mean thats cool

[upper vapor]

ctrl+c ctrl+v'ing the data

if possible

[hearty shard]

im glad to know secretapi is being enjoyed though

[celest thorn]

I don't really need it

the only thing i could probably think that is cool

is customizing the voice

with effects etc...

[icy knoll]

girl ive told you it's good since v1 smh

[upper vapor]

i'd rather no do that xd

[hearty shard]

i still prefer having multiple opinions

[upper vapor]

release when

[hearty shard]

im on a break for a while

so idk

rn its just in a functional beta

[upper vapor]

i'm not implementing a server-side reverb effect 😭

yeah would be cool

but like

[hearty shard]

if i just remove the pre release part from github itd be a full release xd

[upper vapor]

ughh

[celest thorn]

wait

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-serious-right-meow-are-you-serious-right-meow-gif-gif-27266537

[hearty shard]

yes

[celest thorn]

https://github.com/creepycats/Ultimate294/blob/main/Classes/OpusComponent.cs#L58

i still remember about this

https://github.com/creepycats/Ultimate294/blob/main/Patches/OnEffectsApplied.cs#L79

[hearty shard]

yummers

[upper vapor]

pitch shift & fft

so it's just pitch shift basically

well

https://github.com/naudio/NAudio/blob/master/NAudio.Core/Wave/SampleProviders/SMBPitchShiftingSampleProvider.cs

could just plug this in

[celest thorn]

i do not understand shit

[upper vapor]

yeah cuz it's super math

https://github.com/Axwabo/SecretLabNAudio/blob/1d46e442b98a6c8076c2161532b3769ebe8a03a2/SecretLabNAudio.Demo/DiscJockeySampleProvider.cs#L53

integrates very easily

[mild ice]

!removerole 1274619602927747115 1180466630191501363

[regal lake]

I successfully removed Plugin Developer from obvevelyn

[hearty shard]

but

im

im better

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

thank you for your service

[icy knoll]

you sensed my fake ping

[spare zodiac]

new bubble gif to my collection

[spare zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/878752526546124880/1412768079972139118/attachment.gif

[upper vapor]

xd

[slate flume]

https://tenor.com/view/enclave-fallout-god-bless-the-enclave-gif-18335960271083131446

[teal junco]

kinda

[celest thorn]

There are a few problems

i see that the car

is trembling

try to make the wheel collider smaller

[teal junco]

its because the car is very short

also the wheels dont technically exist with the system i used

[teal junco]

its also because i came to two very sudden stops

[celest thorn]

honestly when i made my own car system

i just made it custom

like not using even a single unity base component

i made everything from scratch

and looked how in the past they made cars

and i found out that the best system in video games history (mario kart wii) was made with the same concept as a sphere

moving around

thats how they simplified it

which makes a ton of sense

[upper vapor]

Now give it audio

I like how its really springy

[celest thorn]

funny enough i just made when you press W it does the sound

lol

[upper vapor]

Not realistic

[celest thorn]

Nah honestly car aren't THAT springy

[upper vapor]

Enough

[celest thorn]

it was a test lol

[upper vapor]

I know

But for the vine it's good

[celest thorn]

and i did it when SSSS was just released

[teal junco]

The springs were really satisfying to get right on the tutorial

unfortunately the car has an issue where it drifts veeery slowly over a long time

if parked

[celest thorn]

just applie negative force

or stop it

to contrast the wheel

[teal junco]

yeah i do have a negative force lol

it still drifts by a hundredth of a meter

[celest thorn]

ig set the velocity to 0?

idk

[upper vapor]

Make it kinematic when parked

Freeze all constraints for extra safety

[teal junco]

not going to work

[teal junco]

Hm maybe

or can i make it asleep

so that it will wake up if i ram it

[upper vapor]

True

Just don't let a keycard wake it up
(Idk how sleeping works exactly)

[teal junco]

the only issue is that the way it works is that wheels are invisible zones that push upwards on the car to create suspension

so the wheels are constantly adding force

[upper vapor]

Make the wheels sleep then

[teal junco]

well then the car falls down

[celest thorn]

wheel.Sleep = true

[upper vapor]

Bruh why

[teal junco]

the wheels arent collidable, they dont exist as colliders, theyre just a transform

i can send you the design i copied

[upper vapor]

So if you make the car's "body" sleep then in theory it shouldn't move at all

[teal junco]

maybe

[upper vapor]

I'm not sure if you were referring to freezing the car body here

[celest thorn]

honestly guys make everything sleep

and go to bed

[teal junco]

i can make it so the wheels dont do anything so the car wont wake itself up

[upper vapor]

Yea

[teal junco]

no i am, im just wondering if adding a force will wake it up

and if gravity will affect manually sleeping rigidbodies

[upper vapor]

Surely unity has a way of handling this

Unity - Manual: Introduction to rigid body physics https://share.google/kudpDZ0aYNx29U3Eb
No physics updates if it's sleeping

[celest thorn]

honestly i will go back to that project

and i have a crazy idea

that none developed for sure

(because else why im crazy :3)

but i need approval from maro so i will wait ;(

[upper vapor]

She can't stop you

[celest thorn]

If we don't use it im not gonna continue something like that

i have a crazy idea

and When i have crazy ideas

they are crazy

[teal junco]

can i see a video of your car :3

or no clips were taken

[celest thorn]

ehmm the only video i have is one where my friend is farting so loud

and i clipped it because it was funny asf

[teal junco]

bruh

[celest thorn]

all of us, talking about politics at one point a fucking fart sound so loud

lol

[teal junco]

did you develop the car part in unity or in SCP

i would assume in unity

[celest thorn]

My system works like mario kart

the car is a schematic i still used at the time MER

and then i parsed the car

finding the center

and giving it a sphere

invisible

i did a camera system for the car

and everything

i have another video but sadly its final and confidential because idk maro wants to do something with it

last update tho was 9 months ago

[teal junco]

hopefully

[celest thorn]

but yea my system works great i did all of the car things that car are supposed to do

still needs to thank nintendo lol

[teal junco]

if it disables gravity entirely and doesnt move and wakes up when roused thatd be fire

[teal junco]

cool

have you by any chance made a helicopter

[celest thorn]

No but i wanted alot of time ago do jets

how tf you use a jet on SL

[teal junco]

most vehicles dont have a reason to exist in scp

[celest thorn]

yea

all of them

[teal junco]

unless you contextualize it

[celest thorn]

i remember i was developing the car and had alot of fun drifting on the testing map

[teal junco]

my friend took this video

[celest thorn]

and in my school presentation for the my best work of the year i did this

[celest thorn]

You make a waypoint toy and make the player stand on it?

[teal junco]

i had to make the tire sideway friction really high because it kept drifting like crazy at high weihhts

[teal junco]

yeah

[celest thorn]

Nah i had so much fun

the video that maro has, has this song while i drifted in a map that i still spent 1 week to make

Amazing looking map

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRZHpWxCcYs&list=RDzRZHpWxCcYs&start_radio=1

with this song

lol

and it wasn't even intentional the song

i started the video at the drop

[teal junco]

keeping players inside a car is the main reason i didnt even try until recently when waypoints wrre added

[celest thorn]

and drifted in sync with the music

[celest thorn]

I did it way before waypoints

as soon as the ssss was added

[teal junco]

whatd you do to solve it

[celest thorn]

i did a camera system

[teal junco]

oh okay

so its a completely different case than mine

[celest thorn]

ngl with waypoints i just wanna test a crazy idea

[teal junco]

i wanted like a semi realistic car so i needed waypoints

[celest thorn]

mine could be realistic but it wasn't

intended to be realistic

[teal junco]

it wont be realistic unless you can mount it in first person

[celest thorn]

aside from that

[upper vapor]

you will be sued for patent infringement

[celest thorn]

I love nintendo so much

sometimes i play their games

and i love the mechanics or shit

and i just do it

Recent map i developed for a game a concept comes from Xenoblade 2

because FUCK i love the ambience of that game

all of the design looks amazing

YO

CRAZY IDEA

hotline miami

IN SL

probably is too gory for sl tho

[teal junco]

after i added pissing to SL i realized i could add a player gore effect to my compound V plugin

[celest thorn]

Nah bro we should team up

[teal junco]

so if someone uses superspeed on you i can spawn a bunch of sticky red rigidbodies

[celest thorn]

postal battleground

lol

[teal junco]

that would be fire

[celest thorn]

ngl i love postal so much

[teal junco]

imagine pissing on medkits or adrenalines to taint it

[celest thorn]

i would do it

[celest thorn]

AHAHHAAHAHAHHA

[teal junco]

no you piss on candies

[celest thorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JoJUkIhEjs

sign my petition and then piss on the guy

[teal junco]

the sticky part would be crucial

[celest thorn]

the problem of all of this games is too gory for sl

[teal junco]

does SL have a rule about gore

[celest thorn]

I remember on vsr they did

[teal junco]

i dont think csg has any rules about like gore

[celest thorn]

nope

[teal junco]

or anything really besides discriminatory

[celest thorn]

searching Gore, NSFW

[teal junco]

i just skimmed

nothing about anything besides sexual stufd

so i should be clear to add anything besides slurs or a penisn(within reason)

[celest thorn]

The only problem is how tf you make custom items

that you can see in your hand

like thats something i never understood how people did

[teal junco]

i really want to make it so players can explode into red pieces when rammed using super speed

[teal junco]

wdym

like with custom models in your hand?

[celest thorn]

Half life 1

[upper vapor]

camera.TransformPoint

[celest thorn]

yea

i know some people use coins to then overlay a custom schematic

but i still do not understand how it aligns with both the hand in the camera view and the one of the model

[teal junco]

show screenshot or clip or something

[upper vapor]

1. parent to player object
2. move it up enough

[teal junco]

that cant work very well

[spare zodiac]

this is fucking fire

[celest thorn]

I don't remember but i saw it by someone

it was CRAZY

[spare zodiac]

I haven't thought of making the car a rigidbody

[teal junco]

ty saskyc

[teal junco]

really it was my first thought

[celest thorn]

Honestly i watched how other games did it

[sinful bronze]

I know people who make schems for third look of player and for first look

[teal junco]

a lot of my plugins use rigidbodies, perhaps i should call my server the physics sandbox

[spare zodiac]

I thought of making fuck ton of raycasts

[celest thorn]

I mean how the code works tho

[spare zodiac]

also how do you make rigidbody not fall?

[celest thorn]

like how do they make them so precise

[teal junco]

third person look i think i can get because it syncs a little better

[teal junco]

wdym

[spare zodiac]

rigidbody normally falls no?

[teal junco]

yeah this one also falls

it suspends using "fake" tires though, which constantly push it up

[spare zodiac]

so how do you prevent it fully fall and stay in place?

[sinful bronze]

Iirx parent to player

[celest thorn]

there's something they do for sure to find the position

because its toooo perfect

synced with the coin

[spare zodiac]

I might remake my helicopter plugin mess

[sinful bronze]

Coins, lamp and medkit is better items for that

[upper vapor]

you go in unity
parent it to the player model
move it
boom

add an anchor that you can rotate yaw by

[teal junco]

idk what you mean

[teal junco]

try making the controller in unity and then porting it to SL

[spare zodiac]

you already answered me

[teal junco]

that made it way easier for me

[teal junco]

Oh sorry

[spare zodiac]

I have a problem

autocomplete won't work so yea

[celest thorn]

I did it directly on SL

[teal junco]

also try understanding the principles behind the vehicles movement

[celest thorn]

I know im crazy :3

[teal junco]

for a car its complex but for a helicopter its basically just constantly moving upward

[teal junco]

Why would you do that

[celest thorn]

because im crazy :3

[spare zodiac]

I have no clue how do I make helicopter move down with player movement

[celest thorn]

SSSS

yea btw if i can make what im thinking guys, i think i will beat everyone

the vehicle race

[celest thorn]

example could be this one

[spare zodiac]

I don't take this as competition I have no way of winning, because of my school

[celest thorn]

i don't to but i imagine it more as a space race lol

[icy knoll]

@unique crane hey sorry for the ping, but do you know how to respawn items for a specific room? i.e. i wanna respawn all the items inside of LCZ Armoury. I found ItemDistributor::PlaceSpawnables() but idk if that thing is for the whole map, zone or room, and if it is for room, is it a parent? child? idk as i legit can't find the component at all 😭

[static meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/voices-of-the-void-atv-gif-14716825007576551924

[unique crane]

Will look in like

20 minutes

gonna shower

[icy knoll]

alright thanks, appreciate it

[celest thorn]

let me try and help you

im bored so

[celest thorn]

I got your answer

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/sfq3vmsq.png

its a parent inside each room

as soon as it gets to spawnable structure

it spawns the item

and sets a variable called _placed

So yes its inside each room

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/deoxjqoa.png

because on the little code for culling you can find a mention that it shouldn't be disabled

so for sure its a component inside each rooms

hope it helps

[icy knoll]

no

😭

it didnt

[celest thorn]

why?

Go inside the room and search for all of the components with ItemDistributor

[icy knoll]

i want to respawn items, the screenshots sent seem to spawn nothing

[celest thorn]

because _place = true

already

and so it doesn't spawn them

thats why

[icy knoll]

I did Room::GameObject.GetComponentInChildren<ItemDistrubutor>().PlaceSpawnables();

didnt work

[icy knoll]

ah

lets hope in children and not in parent

[celest thorn]

honestly

it always brings me back to the same place

[icy knoll]

i dont see how _placed has anything to do with it tbh, it's only used in Update for inherited class

but lets see

[celest thorn]

yea

i suppose that the _placed might fix it by letting the update run

obv do reset for the stopwatch

after setting it to false

[icy knoll]

the update works based on a stopwatch

atleast for spawning

[celest thorn]

yea

[icy knoll]

so by the time i set _placed to false, it wont work anyway

[celest thorn]

and thats why i said reset it

[celest thorn]

.

[icy knoll]

but anyway, it doesn't work 😭

[celest thorn]

;(

[icy knoll]

oh right

now lets hope

hi logs but not spawned

so

[unique crane]

@icy knoll
PlaceSpawnables();
SpawnForDoor(door);

That should.. work

[icy knoll]

do i need to reset stopwatch and placed? also should I do GetComponentInChildren<SpawnablesDistributorBase>() instead of ItemDistributor?

[unique crane]

Uhhh yea do that

[icy knoll]

which part 😭

[unique crane]

reset stopwatch

[unique crane]

Well if you want to reset only the items

yea

[icy knoll]

yeah, only items

[unique crane]

If you want everything then get the base class

So only GetComponent ItemDistributor

[icy knoll]

i just want the pickups, nothing else

[unique crane]

so yea

[icy knoll]

this is for LCZ armoury

[unique crane]

that

[icy knoll]

so what part?

[unique crane]

Reset stopwatch
GetComponentInChildren< ItemDistributor>()

[icy knoll]

ive done this

[unique crane]

yes

Like that

[icy knoll]

alright and keep SpawnForDoor ig

fine

easy

done

[teal junco]

does this look good when moving

[sinful bronze]

with syncvar 0 yeah

[icy knoll]

stopwatch is null 😭

[unique crane]

bruh

[icy knoll]

yeah...

even tho idk how?

it's readonly and it is set

so how could it be null?

oh

ItemDistributor might not have been found

idk if it's a child or a parent

hm, it didnt work either way...

yeah ok so cant find it in parent, or children

nor is it in the actual gameobject itself

now i am stuck :3

this doesn't log anything either, like not at all, and when I did all components for parent and the base object, nothing either

[spare zodiac]

how are red circles of players handled?

[quartz quest]

Hey, I am trying to cancel TeslaGates for some custom roles, but the events OnPlayerTriggeringTesla/OnPlayerIdlingTesla are not firing, while their post-conterparts OnPlayerTriggeredTesla/OnPlayerIdledTesla are. The problem is, I need the pre-versions, since I can only use the IsAllowed flag on those. I tired logging the events. I get output for the post-Variants but not for the pre-Variants and I have no idea why...

And yes, they are registiered correctly in the Enable() since most of the events in the same class do actually work.

[unique crane]

You mean audios?

fully client side

[spare zodiac]

not audios just when the circle is made

[unique crane]

Well for 939

right?

[spare zodiac]

yes

[unique crane]

Client side

[spare zodiac]

makspworowpdltlekah

[upper vapor]

markiplier in poland?

[unique crane]

XD

[upper vapor]

with a little cat?

[unique crane]

Polish markiplier

[royal mica]

I suppose we do not have a good DamageHandlerBase -> Damage type Enum converstion right?

Based on Damage type enum is non existant

[unique crane]

I do not have issue with this event, are you using Exiled by chance?

[unique crane]

Check for type

[royal mica]

I need it in string form

[quartz quest]

Exiled is installed on the server but I used LabAPI for this specific plugin

[royal mica]

i guess I'll jsut create a instaneof switch

[hearty shard]

the events work for me

[unique crane]

I am sorry but this is Exiled issue then.

[hearty shard]

WITHOUT exiled

yea

[unique crane]

Please uninstall exiled or report it on their discord

[royal mica]

Please uninstall exiled or report it on their discord

[celest thorn]

lol

[quartz quest]

Aight, I'll try asap 👍 thanks

[celest thorn]

david rn

[unique crane]

There are translations then

If you want it in player friendly string

[quartz quest]

I did have 2 or 3 exiled plugins installed, but ill try coding them myself or finding labapi versions ig

[royal mica]

[celest thorn]

ngl do it in labapi

labapi has almost all of the stuff

of Exiled

[royal mica]

Or possibly them already have LabAPI alternative

[celest thorn]

but done of base game

[royal mica]

Exiled is like Forge of MC rn

[celest thorn]

No?

[royal mica]

I wish it was

[celest thorn]

its not even near

labapi is forge and fabric lol

[royal mica]

as in like, why people still use it

[celest thorn]

exiled is dying

[royal mica]

as forge should, long live fabric

[celest thorn]

i don't see anyone contributing

or anything

[quartz quest]

Thing is my code is really bad... I can't code a lot of stuff myself so I just downloaded some plugins for the more complex stuff xd

[celest thorn]

try and see if there are alternative

or else report it to their discord

[upper vapor]

what if one of them prefixes the tesla methods

[teal junco]

forge has a lot of additional functionality and implementation of systems right

[royal mica]

But also limiting

[teal junco]

fabric does have a api but also doesnt need it

labapi kinda just has basic wrappers and events. which is good enough, and exiled breaks half the time

[quartz quest]

it did work without EXILED installed, thats crazy

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

Ngl exiled skill issue

[spare zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/878752526546124880/1412882184112443473/attachment.gif

le epic

[restive turret]

thi guy doesnt know git
I love publishing .obj

[spare zodiac]

what is publishable publish

nah this is for my private repo which I don't care about what I publish and if I'll loose it then it'll be easier to recover

[restive turret]

what

[unique crane]

💀

[celest thorn]

You gotta put 0Harmony else

and .NETCoreAPP

[slender lynx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277981780661764146/1412491187540988035/togif.gif

[plain gazelle]

Is there a command to set myself as Tutorial regardless of ID?

[celest thorn]

No

[plain gazelle]

Nice

[celest thorn]

Make it yourself

Its just one line

[unique crane]

Just do @me and tab

It will change it to your id

Or just yknow

Use RA

[celest thorn]

What????

Minecraft clone????

are you guys gonna add @ s,p,r,a,e?

[unique crane]

these has been in game for ages xd

[celest thorn]

bro why tf none talks about them

[slender lynx]

cuz everyone only uses *

[royal mica]

HAT THIS IS A THING?

[glad pagoda]

i knew that * was but never seen the @ ones

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/5s0iyg4a.png

Official SpigotMC plugin made by nw?

[icy knoll]

is setting the DamageHandler during PlayerSpawningRagdollEventArgs supposed to work? it doesn't seem to work :c

[teal junco]

wtf how are people not knowing this

[wheat flower]

i see incorrect docs

[plain gazelle]

Is PlayerEvents.Dying fired for a player leaving the server while alive?

[icy knoll]

yes, most likely

as DealDamage is ran

with -1

meaning insta death

[plain gazelle]

Thank you :3

[icy knoll]

nws :3

[plain gazelle]

When setting the scale of someone far away, when they come near again, they dont seem to have the updated scale. Desync

Is this caused by sth on our end or this a known issue atm?

We just set it with player.Scale

---

Also, how can i get the DisplayName without the color data and the *
?
Im trying to save it and re-apply it but that just writes out the color hex thing and the star

[royal mica]

Look at gow changescale command does it

There is a builtin cmd for it now

[static meteor]

        Vector3 scale = new Vector3(result, result2, result3);
        int num = 0;
        foreach (ReferenceHub item in list)
        {
            if (item.roleManager.CurrentRole is IFpcRole fpcRole)
            {
                fpcRole.FpcModule.Motor.ScaleController.Scale = scale;
                num++;
            }
        }
        response = string.Format("Sucessfully scaled {0}/{1} player{2}", num, list.Count, (list.Count > 1) ? "s" : string.Empty);
        return true;

Scale command^

[plain gazelle]

jeez

Why wouldnt it update for culled players though

[static meteor]

They are set as spectators iirc

[plain gazelle]

oh ffs

we love anti cheat

we love anti cheat

[celest thorn]

I know most likely i will never get the response until tomorrow but, how much heavy are the dummies like how much they impact the server compared to a player?

Because it would be useful to see how performant a server is

[keen halo]

I like your name.

Seems familiar

[grand flower]

Disable sending positional data to dummies

and they'll be cheap enough

if you use my round robin transpiler stuff it already does that and you're good

oh you mean impact compared to a player? probably close to on par in vanilla SL

especially if you make them move around

[warped prairie]

i suppose it would depend how much you do with them.? but id assume much lighter than real playe rs

[grand flower]

I had similar results to normal players with my testing

1/2 tps off maybe

[slate flume]

Can invisible players still be shot?

[slate flume]

Does this change any functioning for the dummies?

[slate flume]

Also round robin in this context is weird
Doing odds then evens isn't really doing a "round robin"

Last point, it might be better to use position in the player list rather than network ID, because it's feasible that there are more odds/evens as network IDs don't change when a player leaves

It'll only make a difference in niche situations but it can happen

[worthy rune]

yeah im pretty sure they can, although i dont think they get backtracked

[grand flower]

No

[grand flower]

I use index not network id

Afaik

[slate flume]

Fire

[grand flower]

Idk about the name that's just how it was described by engineers smarter than me LOL

[slate flume]

Love that

I only mentioned it cause I did round robin tournaments in high school and all round robin is is a tournament where everyone plays against each other

I'd be interested to check out the code behind how the even/odd split works because how would an even player get the position of an odd one and vice/versa
Ig I just haven't looked at the distributor lately to know

[grand flower]

Odd players get all positions then even players get all positions

Did you not check the code

[slate flume]

No I'm in Germany ATM I'm relying on word of mouth to understand the code

I'll probably get my laptop out soon but I didn't want to go to the trouble to check one function

[slate flume]

I'm gonna crash out

I wanted to do some programming

I transferred my project from my computer to my laptop

Now I have like 100 errors

For no fucking reason

It's the same project, same IDE

And yet now I can't do like .Remove(key, out var value);

Wtf is going on

[worthy rune]

is that rider?

[slate flume]

Yes

[worthy rune]

if so, try removing and readding .netframework/system.core/system references (the ones that are from the game)

[slate flume]

I removed all system references and added them back again

Same issue

[worthy rune]

oof

[slate flume]

Ts pmo

[worthy rune]

i think the labapi project does this on vscode/rider aswell, it happens randomly and often is resolved randomly aswell. only fix i think is to try visual studio

[slate flume]

I hate VS

[worthy rune]

hmmm, wondering if it has something todo with unity integration. i know on Visual studio you usually install a component to work with unity. it might be required for plugin projects like this to work. does rider have a similar plugin/component?

[slate flume]

Uhhhh maybe I can try reinstalling

I don't remember installing any extensions other than what was offered during the setup process

Unity support plugin is bundled with base rider

I'm losing my shit

[teal junco]

whats on ur mind

[slate flume]

^

[teal junco]

oh okay

thats not pleasant in the slightest

[slate flume]

I have a Jetbrains Rider C# project that was made using .net 9.0, but then I changed the .csproj to target .net 4.8 and was able to keep things like .Remove(key, out var value)
I tried to do that again on my new computer but it doesn't work anymore, but it still works on my old computer
I tried copying the project exactly 1:1 (including the .csproj file) but got the same errors
I have .NET framework 9.0 installed, which includes 4.8
Rider project settings on both systems say I'm using .net 4.8 and C# language version 12.0
I have no idea why it's doing this

[upper vapor]

Impossible

[upper vapor]

You need mscorlib from the SL files

That's why people usually do HintPath="$(SL_REFERENCES)/Assembly-CSharp.dll"

But i hate seeing that

So I just

https://github.com/Axwabo/SecretLabNAudio/blob/main/Directory.Build.targets

[upper vapor]

You're not getting the error because of C# version, it's because .NET Framework doesn't have those methods

[slate flume]

I have it

[upper vapor]

No IDE or code editor would fix this

[slate flume]

It's done been in my project

[upper vapor]

Inspect the references in Rider

[teal junco]

how do i prevent waypoints from doing this when i reconnect

clarification : it enlarges items. i assume the waypoint's default scale being 256x256x256 has something to do with this (and the fact that the waypoint in here is scaled about 2x2x2) but have no idea how to fix it

[slate flume]

Wait wait you're onto something
mscorlib is drawing from Implicit .NetFramework 4.8 rather than the reference I give it
How do I change that

[slate flume]

What

The hell

[upper vapor]

#plugins-dev-chat message

[worthy rune]

iirc this happened with EXILED, but it should of been fixed by now?

[teal junco]

I mean I have EXILED installed, but the waypoint has zero involvement with exiled afaik

[slate flume]

Ty

[teal junco]

its spawned by a Lab plugin (PMER)

maybe its because its PMER? idfk

[upper vapor]

Np

[worthy rune]

no its todo with EXILEDS pickup scale thing, if you have EXILED installed it can do this

[teal junco]

oh okay

fuck

[slate flume]

So why is it that this is a problem on my laptop but not on my computer

[teal junco]

i have EXILED plugins dude
i have to rewrite them to fix this

[worthy rune]

check the EXILED discord, since they know about the issue i assumed they already fixed this

[upper vapor]

That's a really good question
Missing env var?

[teal junco]

i believe i have the latest build

i can make sure of it though

[slate flume]

Honestly, no clue how to check that
I just know how to write code, no idea how to modify/work with IDEs or build settings or anything

[upper vapor]

What if you just unpatch the problematic patch

[upper vapor]

That's in your system settings

Tbh IDEs aren't very good at customizing builds

[teal junco]

Idk what patch it is

i was about to do that though

[upper vapor]

Find it

[teal junco]

No im a helpless bitch and i have everyone else do the hard work for me.

[teal junco]

wish me luck please

[upper vapor]

GL

[slate flume]

Oh you mean the global PATH

Gotcha

I can check

I have anydesk on my computer at home so I can remote in

[upper vapor]

Kinda

[upper vapor]

W

[slate flume]

I see nothing in the environment variables

[upper vapor]

Uh

How is your build system handling it at home then

[slate flume]

Idfk I installed rider, made a .net 9.0 project, changed it to .net 4.8, and then it just worked

I didn't fuck with build settings or anything outside of making my C# language version 12.0 and changing from 9.0 -> 4.8

For whatever reason, I didn't have to disable implicit references

It just let me use mscorlib from SL managed folder

[upper vapor]

Did you reference mscorlib with the "add reference" dialog?