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celest thorn
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Door door = Door.List.FirstOrDefault(x => x.DoorName == 
DoorName.SurfaceEscapeFinal);

if(door == null)
   return;

door.Lock(...)

This is an example

blissful pike
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vim?? like on linux terminal? 😭

upper vapor
random scaffold
blissful pike
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nano is better

random scaffold
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no

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nano dont have lsp

thin shuttle
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where is Door::Get(DoorName)

random scaffold
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you must use Door.List.FirstOrDefault(r => r.RoomName == RoomName.Femboy);

blissful pike
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wtf is lsp

random scaffold
random scaffold
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you write Player. and it show a tips

celest thorn
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i found out there's a Get for DoorName

blissful pike
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I don't need auto complete on linux

celest thorn
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so use that

blissful pike
random scaffold
celest thorn
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guys this chat is becoming degeneracy

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rn

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this is crazy

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so im gonna do something

feral haven
celest thorn
celest thorn
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am i blind

upper vapor
celest thorn
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bruh THERE'S ONE FOR THE NAME

feral haven
upper vapor
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genius

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someone cooked with that

celest thorn
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who tf is in charge of this bullshit api

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lol

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THEY MADE DOORNAME

upper vapor
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cooked a miniature mcdonald's fry

celest thorn
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AND THEY DON'T USE IT

blissful pike
feral haven
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Dude, they have a string function for it

celest thorn
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🤦‍♀️

blissful pike
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huh

upper vapor
celest thorn
blissful pike
#

what

thin shuttle
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But BRUUUUUH

blissful pike
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then what the fuck is the point of DoorName

thin shuttle
upper vapor
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PR it

thin shuttle
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there here

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me too :3

celest thorn
feral haven
# blissful pike huh

Door.Get(DoorName.SurfaceEscapeFinal.ToString()).Lock(DoorLockReason.AdminCommand, false); here you go!

thin shuttle
feral haven
#

Only possible way using DoorName

thin shuttle
celest thorn
feral haven
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Unless that isn't the name the door has

blissful pike
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let's see

celest thorn
thin shuttle
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i would love

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i don't remind what gender you are

celest thorn
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they are amazing ;(

thin shuttle
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oh girl

celest thorn
thin shuttle
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it's write in your profile

thin shuttle
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:3

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he annouce it today to the doctor (not his family)

random scaffold
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in russia they have a text on a door in burger king

"Allowed with furry if they not bite"

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lol

thin shuttle
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i am not into furry at all

thin shuttle
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the the only things i can't leep with it

celest thorn
thin shuttle
blissful pike
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okayu

thin shuttle
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oh DoorName is wrong

celest thorn
thin shuttle
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it's should be

feral haven
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@blissful pike Nvm, you gotta use this I believe:

foreach (var door in Door.List)
{
    if (door.DoorName == DoorName.SurfaceEscapeFinal)
    {
        door.Lock(DoorLockReason.AdminCommand, false);
    }
}
blissful pike
celest thorn
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which saves line

thin shuttle
feral haven
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or make a helper function for it

unique crane
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Or PR to fix that

upper vapor
random scaffold
unique crane
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or it might be in some pending prs

random scaffold
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99% chance

unique crane
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idk

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There is like 20 of them again

celest thorn
# blissful pike no

Door door = Door.List.FirstOrDefault(x => x.DoorName ==
DoorName.SurfaceEscapeFinal);

if(door == null)
return;

door.Lock(...)

random scaffold
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like a david

thin shuttle
upper vapor
feral haven
#

Is there a way to join Northwood? 🙏🏻

celest thorn
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i don't have it either

celest thorn
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and they wouldn't hire a random

blissful pike
random scaffold
thin shuttle
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i would like to join as dev

random scaffold
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if you dont wanna be furry or a femboy

haughty oak
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what custom items can be made?..

blissful pike
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oh but that's enums for DoorName

celest thorn
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90% of the people that are on NW are like old member of the modding community (devs obv)

blissful pike
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hm

celest thorn
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which is quite funny

random scaffold
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oh

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he furry

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then is the best place

feral haven
random scaffold
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for join

feral haven
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Idk how to tell you this man

upper vapor
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hold on

thin shuttle
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that first requirement

celest thorn
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nah you are weird

feral haven
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If being a Furry or femboy is the only requirement, let me in! x3

thin shuttle
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i am weird for real

celest thorn
restive turret
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i agree

feral haven
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I wanna change the PlayerEffectsController so badly!!!!

thin shuttle
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idk why people leave me handling Exiled

celest thorn
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@upper vapor knows about the random russian kid that joins lol

mild ice
celest thorn
#

"what do you think of russia?"

feral haven
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Thx for letting me know though

mild ice
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Np

restive turret
#

Lucid is just appearing from the nowhere

random scaffold
celest thorn
random scaffold
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then best place

celest thorn
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so no more femboys

thin shuttle
#

can someone say me what Lucid is saying ?

blissful pike
upper vapor
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speaking head emoji

thin shuttle
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i can't read his message

blissful pike
feral haven
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Geez

celest thorn
thin shuttle
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oh yeah

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that what i am waiting for

mild ice
random scaffold
upper vapor
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nw application speedrun challenge

feral haven
celest thorn
celest thorn
random scaffold
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just he used hidden nw language

upper vapor
restive turret
#

waiting until they open LabApi dev again ClassDTroll1
@upper vapor @thin shuttle

celest thorn
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lol

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i have a list of people if they join im gonna quit

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(first one is me)

thin shuttle
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Lol

restive turret
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so if you join you quit sl?

upper vapor
celest thorn
restive turret
#

you need to do prog at sl no?

celest thorn
restive turret
#

🎦

random scaffold
celest thorn
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(obv im joking)

mild ice
random scaffold
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im wanna make a fish from baguette

celest thorn
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i kinda need money

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but BUT

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im not desperate for 0.000000000000000000000000000000001 a hour

mild ice
thin shuttle
celest thorn
celest thorn
#

you guys HAVE TRIALS?

unique crane
celest thorn
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wtf am i a demo?

restive turret
celest thorn
#

like do you then unlock me?

feral haven
restive turret
celest thorn
unique crane
#

And LabAPI maintainers doesnt have access to Unity until full role

thin shuttle
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i am curious if my portfolio of handling Exiled is good

upper vapor
hearty shard
upper vapor
feral haven
#

Oh yeah, mb

mild ice
celest thorn
unique crane
#

that might change in future

unique crane
feral haven
#

Worth a try

restive turret
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they gonna sing me an NDA

celest thorn
#

i should've added the discalimer before)

upper vapor
celest thorn
thin shuttle
feral haven
celest thorn
#

that would cost TOOO much

hearty shard
feral haven
#

Do they accept cash?

celest thorn
unique crane
restive turret
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(Nice Dedicated Action)

celest thorn
#

How many nw staff rn

thin shuttle
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me adding Exiled for replacing LabAPI day one of entering NW (joking)

celest thorn
#

this chat is scary rn

mild ice
rugged laurel
feral haven
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Nvm -_-

hearty shard
random scaffold
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private sealed class ZeroTwo : Tsundere
{
  public override bool IsAggresiveByDefault => false;
}
hearty shard
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this is why im applying for sl and not labapi Trol

celest thorn
upper vapor
feral haven
#

Shouldn't it be "Zer0Two"?

hearty shard
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which ones!

unique crane
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Seems like Beryl is gonna have fun next time apps are open

hearty shard
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name them ALL

random scaffold
celest thorn
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im gonna leav

thin shuttle
#

i honnestly really like Beryl

celest thorn
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because i cannot shit on NW

celest thorn
mild ice
thin shuttle
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when he help me to get client code from NW

restive turret
celest thorn
#

but we understand each others

hearty shard
hearty shard
#

can i have everyones data

unique crane
#

Well if your going programmer..

unique crane
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then its beryl

thin shuttle
#

i talk with Beryl quite a lot for Exiled

unique crane
#

makes sense..

random scaffold
#

how geet this role

hearty shard
thin shuttle
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why i don't have the french role ?

velvet shore
#

Me too

celest thorn
#

i bet hubert doesn't want the SL-AC getting leaked

thin shuttle
#

lier

hearty shard
random scaffold
celest thorn
hearty shard
#

what if i was

random scaffold
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"was"

thin shuttle
celest thorn
hearty shard
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threats cryge

celest thorn
restive turret
celest thorn
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but im not french

random scaffold
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she changed DNA

celest thorn
#

so how do you know?

mild ice
thin shuttle
#

simple

celest thorn
thin shuttle
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i ask my friend Emanuel Macron

celest thorn
#

because code is optimized

celest thorn
#

to the nano seconds

upper vapor
hearty shard
#

thanks

feral haven
#

Wait, david. Did you ever answer my question?

restive turret
unique crane
restive turret
unique crane
#

Im playing phasmo so I dont check every chat message xd

random scaffold
celest thorn
random scaffold
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all french learn me only a french insults

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im already know fdp mdr pdr

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lol

feral haven
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This one

restive turret
mild ice
unique crane
feral haven
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Ah, I see

hearty shard
#

yum

celest thorn
thin shuttle
celest thorn
#

A MONTH

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too

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thats crazy

unique crane
celest thorn
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not even tier 1

hearty shard
#

daviddd

restive turret
thin shuttle
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for real we said shit like hello in south of france

celest thorn
feral haven
celest thorn
#

discord is p2w

mild ice
restive turret
celest thorn
unique crane
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send it to me

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/make pr

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etc

random scaffold
celest thorn
#

not to nw

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im sorry

feral haven
mild ice
#

Have fun

hearty shard
thin shuttle
#

'Ah merde..."

"Ah MERDE"

"Ah Merde ?"

"MERDE"

"Oh et puis merde"

unique crane
hearty shard
#

not some "scam link"

celest thorn
#

at least my slavery happy working is amazing there

unique crane
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I need to see it yknow

thin shuttle
unique crane
#

Or well.. want

feral haven
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Alright

unique crane
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so if you can send me a link or something

random scaffold
mild ice
celest thorn
restive turret
celest thorn
#

we didn't talk for a long time

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lol

hearty shard
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but also

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lucid was meant to list them all not give me a scam link

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smh

random scaffold
unique crane
hearty shard
celest thorn
#

15

hearty shard
upper vapor
random scaffold
celest thorn
#

thats ALOT

upper vapor
#

BUILD DOESN'T WORK

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😭

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shit breaks

hearty shard
#

ax....

restive turret
hearty shard
#

you are

upper vapor
#

precision errors

hearty shard
#

terrifying

mild ice
celest thorn
upper vapor
random scaffold
#

make your own a source

upper vapor
hearty shard
hearty shard
#

with your sheer amount of insanity

celest thorn
#

its not hard (i found a loophole)

upper vapor
hearty shard
#

reminder that college is insanely boring

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BORING

celest thorn
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so for me ITS NOT boring

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i love what i do

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and that is drinking monster cans and passing out in the keyboard for fixing a semicollon that was missing

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ngl none will ever give me back the full day i spent on cloudflare workers

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without sleeping

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to then find out they work by doing each one of the endpoints just a small worker

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and then despawn it

hearty shard
celest thorn
mild ice
upper vapor
mild ice
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But the Uni is cool

random scaffold
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double

celest thorn
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so most likely i will get a free vacation to NYC

hearty shard
celest thorn
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for a week

hearty shard
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im just sad i didnt get friday to be what i wanted

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instead i have cullinary for 3 days and an extra like random day

upper vapor
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could've made it a fry day

restive turret
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I dont even know what classes I have to attend

hearty shard
hearty shard
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i didnt until i had gone through a full week

restive turret
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half of them missing

celest thorn
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:3

restive turret
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and OFC those that are in and i applied for it just didnt say WHEN it starts/ends

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like thanks, but i would be more glad if i can arrange my day

celest thorn
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ngl i know that uni starts in october

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but idk when

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i think half of the month because i have still exams

restive turret
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uni starts when you start attending to classes

celest thorn
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i have mandatory classes and they have dates

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where i can go

upper vapor
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who says it's mandatory

restive turret
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they dont even publish dates before like

celest thorn
restive turret
#

a day before the whole system expires

upper vapor
celest thorn
#

btw most likely before uni, i will go to a therapist lol

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im too crazy

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btw funny enough people who to the uni im doing 90% of them don't know how to code

restive turret
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my fav email this week from uni

restive turret
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and we arleady past java and c

celest thorn
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when we were visiting the uni, only 5% raised their hands and they knew how to code

celest thorn
upper vapor
restive turret
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im in the 5th semester

celest thorn
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but the professor / head master for that specific section dog shitted on our projects

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fuck that guy

upper vapor
restive turret
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no

mild ice
upper vapor
celest thorn
upper vapor
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mars vs snickers

mild ice
celest thorn
random scaffold
upper vapor
celest thorn
#

you didn't know?

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Skittles

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everything

celest thorn
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in italy they are called snickers

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but american troups have mars

celest thorn
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they taste the same

celest thorn
restive turret
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this is literally my schedule

celest thorn
#

but i trust you

random scaffold
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axwabo made awokado

random scaffold
upper vapor
restive turret
mild ice
celest thorn
upper vapor
random scaffold
celest thorn
mild ice
celest thorn
restive turret
#

even my brain?

celest thorn
#

don't worry that last day a guy joined on AM and sent a porn link

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and got banned

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so you guys aren't the only one

random scaffold
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what is this

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who know

upper vapor
random scaffold
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to slac already sent 1 mb of the data

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☠️

upper vapor
#

slack

random scaffold
#

slac

restive turret
hearty shard
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me when

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sl-ac

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sl anti cheat

random scaffold
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they already have sl in the 2-level domain

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why again sl

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..

restive turret
random scaffold
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yep

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they must do it

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to much people know word sl

upper vapor
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ls vs dir

random scaffold
#

dead chat

hearty shard
#

im gonna apply for CEO at NW

upper vapor
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central evil organizer

random scaffold
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pl.Scale

hearty shard
#

uh oh

grand flower
#

You can apply for CEO?

hearty shard
#

last update to the page was 2021

grand flower
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You could apply for CEO in the past?

hearty shard
#

it mightve been an over-sight

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id ping HR to fix it prob

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actually who has access to this i assume its HR

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or its hubert

mild ice
hearty shard
#

slightly

grand flower
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Yeah that's funny

hearty shard
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cuz like i dont think CEO needs an application form 😭

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same with COO

mild ice
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It never hurts to clarify the responsibilities of each role kek

upper vapor
hearty shard
#

which goes nowhere and i assume would also just be denied...

restive turret
hearty shard
#

unless hubert is quitting

upper vapor
#

xdd

mild ice
hearty shard
mild ice
#

No can do chief

hearty shard
#

RAAAA

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what staff panel

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oooo

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can i have

hearty shard
#

i assume its a page to handle all staff in nw

restive turret
upper vapor
#

ben shartpiro

restive turret
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idk who that is

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sorry

upper vapor
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good

mild ice
hearty shard
#

what the fuck is notion

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notes

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its fucking notes

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oh is this whats used for the emails 😭

celest thorn
#

ngl nw seems so unorganized from the outside

mild ice
upper vapor
#

would you like some investors

icy knoll
hearty shard
restive turret
celest thorn
#

just selfhost

upper vapor
#

😭

hearty shard
#

Notion is a productivity and note-taking web application developed

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ok its the 2nd

mild ice
mild ice
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I like to think so

celest thorn
hearty shard
celest thorn
#

i didn't see russian gifs in this discord

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so yea

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a pretty good job

mild ice
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Ty, we have a good team

celest thorn
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but idk the other teams

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marketing is amazing ngl

hearty shard
celest thorn
#

i love everyone at marketing

icy knoll
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gunna do this in this chat TrollDespair

celest thorn
#

DO IT

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So we are free

restive turret
celest thorn
#

BUT if i do THAT joke

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im getting banned

restive turret
celest thorn
#

bro you are trying to get me banned

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rn i could do a joke

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that could describe the entire economy of Hungary

restive turret
#

dm me

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and I will forward it to lucid

celest thorn
#

I mean its the truth tho, like thats HOW fucked the economy is

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bro blocked me

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the joke was too real

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or im getting banned

feral haven
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Lol

feral haven
#

💀

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-# Sad Squid

celest thorn
#

but i would be sad because i cannot develop for maro no more ;(

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so not the second option please :3

feral haven
#

-# You can't unsee it once you've seen it :)

celest thorn
#

fun fact: i've never watched squid game

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and never will

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probably last individual in the world to not have watched it

feral haven
#

Wait, not a squid

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A jellyfish

celest thorn
#

JellyFish Games

feral haven
celest thorn
feral haven
#

xD

upper vapor
celest thorn
#

we need to be like this ghast

feral haven
upper vapor
celest thorn
celest thorn
#

so

upper vapor
celest thorn
#

my life is dull asf

upper vapor
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but

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not very eventful

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gotta add some UnityEngine.Random

celest thorn
#

like bro i can dressup and i sent a picture to a friend of mine

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and he thought i was a girl

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thats how good i am

upper vapor
upper vapor
#

they knew

celest thorn
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they didn't know i was trans

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so

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and im pretty closed on this so really none knows irl

restive turret
celest thorn
slate flume
#

Is it planned for the future that we'll be able to adjust the max ammo of firearms without harmony patches?

upper vapor
celest thorn
#

if you get nw dev

slate flume
#

Does this mean I need to @ david

celest thorn
#

NO OPTIMIZATION

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so we can shit

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on nw

upper vapor
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i can't promise anything

celest thorn
#

thats so sad

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i will quit

upper vapor
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maybe that's a favor i'm doing for you

celest thorn
restive turret
celest thorn
#

but i might quit before

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idk

upper vapor
#

i don't even have to do anything

celest thorn
#

crazy

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ngl if i quit

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EVERYTHING will go to the tomb with me

upper vapor
#

you will bring all your proje

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yes

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to the grave

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but hold up

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here comes tomb raider

hearty shard
#

Ax....

upper vapor
#

perfect amount of dots

hearty shard
#

Can i axe you a question

restive turret
hearty shard
upper vapor
hearty shard
#

Good point

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Can i axe you 2 questions

celest thorn
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for that

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100% if i quit

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all of the projects will die

upper vapor
celest thorn
upper vapor
#

without the fear of being sued

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(question mark)

celest thorn
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for alot of stuff

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with maro

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so

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its like i cannot sya much

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else im getting sniped

upper vapor
celest thorn
#

by alot of people

upper vapor
#

you don't have it trademarked

restive turret
hearty shard
#

signing an nda 💔

celest thorn
#

but maro is nice

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so i did

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:3

upper vapor
celest thorn
#

she is cool

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not like you

upper vapor
#

active crime scene

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this chat will become

celest thorn
#

don't worry

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it will be me

feral haven
celest thorn
#

as the one getting killed

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tonight

upper vapor
restive turret
#

you signed maro's NDA with your real name

feral haven
#

If it's crimes against humanity, then it's not that bad

upper vapor
restive turret
#

cards against humanity

celest thorn
upper vapor
feral haven
#

What? Sharks?

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I like Sharks

feral haven
#

Crazy

upper vapor
#

shart

celest thorn
#

Shart clip

feral haven
#

I guess it was a island KEK

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Mb

celest thorn
upper vapor
feral haven
celest thorn
#

this is what we need

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on this channel

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zero mortal plan

feral haven
#

All we need is a sad jellyfish 💀

upper vapor
#

ascend/descend beyond the mortal plane

upper vapor
celest thorn
#

so ig descend

upper vapor
#

yeah you can't english

celest thorn
upper vapor
#

nuh uh

feral haven
#

Did you know that you start off smart and school just makes you dumber and dumber?
The more you learn from it, the less you understand :)

feral haven
upper vapor
restive turret
feral haven
#

What buffer? I just got a byte :P

feral haven
upper vapor
#

level 5

celest thorn
#

This is me in 3 years, im going to become homeless and crazy

upper vapor
celest thorn
#

that guy was suffering alot

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so i prefer not

upper vapor
#

idk

celest thorn
#

i already have my own problems

feral haven
#

"Double it and give it to the next person" KEK

upper vapor
#

fú more

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charity

feral haven
#

Nah, that's civilization

restive turret
upper vapor
#

this restored my faith in humanity, doubled it and gave it to the next civilization

celest thorn
upper vapor
#

xdddddd

upper vapor
restive turret
celest thorn
#

they are trains

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thats it

upper vapor
#

that's like me saying "i don't understand the passion for planes"

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they're cool

celest thorn
upper vapor
#

huh

celest thorn
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i play war thunder because im bored

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thats it

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i glitched axwabo

slate flume
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Turns out it works when I don't use isolation

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That's so cool

restive turret
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!qa

regal lakeBOT
upper vapor
hearty shard
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Quality assurance is bad

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We test in production

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And theres no bugs, only features

celest thorn
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everyone else don't

upper vapor
celest thorn
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like nothing wrong

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there are cool people

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but 90% of them are dumb asf

icy knoll
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hey every build for northwood is qa'd high before it's allowed to be merged

celest thorn
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which is useful because they rappresent the room temperature IQ of 90% of the population

icy knoll
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but ofc qa isn't a failsafe, because qa knows how it's intended to be used, a user doesn't, so a normal user is more likely to break it

celest thorn
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with Duping

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and other stuff

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i don't even fucking know how someone figured out a dupe on SL

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which is quite surprising they don't have the same id

icy knoll
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some stuff gets through

celest thorn
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but still thats crazy that a massive hole got left out

icy knoll
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but trust me, if we let through everything that has been sent through at stage one, the game would be dead

celest thorn
restive turret
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ye its funny i came across this bug

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where if you change server that you have only admin chat permission for one and the other is full RA permission you still have the older server RA chat

celest thorn
restive turret
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ye

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its not

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but prob can be just one line fix

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RAStaffChatPanel.Text.Clear();

celest thorn
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or

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just delete the RA

warped prairie
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hello gamers

hearty shard
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Gaymers

warped prairie
dull oxide
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Does the pocket corroding effect get removed when player sucesfully escapes pocket dimension?

grand flower
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yeah

dull oxide
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Awesome thanks

cedar jungle
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How do I trigger a client-side only event?

hearty shard
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What are you actually trying to do?

cedar jungle
hearty shard
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You can't add code to client

cedar jungle
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and

hearty shard
cedar jungle
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i dont know how to do that

hearty shard
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Fake the rotation using fake syncs

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Also what gameobject r u actually referring to

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Game has a lot, and not all can be modified

cedar jungle
hearty shard
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You're gonna have to find an API or learn how Mirror works and figure out how to fake the sync (and ofc prevent it from adjusting back to its real thing)

cedar jungle
hearty shard
cedar jungle
static meteor
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Mirror ClassDHollow

cedar jungle
hearty shard
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Ur probably fine then

cedar jungle
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too many raycasts means too much overhead

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(For the server)

static meteor
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Just trying to make it look in the direction of the player?

cedar jungle
slate flume
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Vector3 lookDirection = (player.Camera.Position - eyes.Position).normalied)

hearty shard
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Actually yea why r u doing raycasts for that

static meteor
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You could just do

Vector3 direction = (target - transform.position).normalized;
cedar jungle
slate flume
cedar jungle
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my brain is not pulsating

slate flume
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Not a real programmer I see troll

hearty shard
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the only optimization is to not send to players that cant see it (just do a distance check Trol)

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Idk

slate flume
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Rotating the eyes is not a computationally expensive task

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Make a component that finds the nearest player and rotates the eye towards the player

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Or a specific player if that's what you're looking for

hearty shard
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And since each player has to be fake synced

slate flume
grand flower
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If only we had clientside mods

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;-;

hearty shard
slate flume
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I'm just saying that you don't really need to do it unless you're spawning a ton of primitives

grand flower
hearty shard
hearty shard
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so theres no reason to not do so, unless it is always in range

slate flume
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I say generally don't worry about micro optimizing until it's actually important

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My code base is like half the size it would be otherwise because I don't worry about shaving nanoseconds off of a primitive

warped prairie
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do first optimise later

slate flume
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^

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At least generally speaking

grand flower
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You'll eventually just learn to do it as optimized as possible from the start

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Or close

grand flower
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In any case you'll always be putting more pressure on the server for SL

slate flume
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The point is if you look at every little nook and cranny and try to optimize the hell out of it, you're wasting time

grand flower
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Since you can't do clientside stuff

slate flume
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^

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Not sending a network message is like nanosecond-type optimization

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You still have to perform the computation of the primitive

hearty shard
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Still no reason to NOT avoid it kek

slate flume
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You could just do a patch and override all primitives like that

hearty shard
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Im not saying "oh optimize every detail until its unreadable" but "just optimize with 1 distance check"

true cedar
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to be fair

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we use c# so

slate flume
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You're missing the point

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The thing I'm getting at is that it's a bad optimization or that it can't be useful, I'm saying that you don't need to optimize everything

true cedar
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there are certain optimizations that are incredibly easy to do and are generally worth it for code u need to be performant

hearty shard
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Thats additional,
But when you have a component handling stuff, do you tend to want it to do unnecessary stuff for 0 reason?

true cedar
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(eg linq)

slate flume
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It's sending to players that can't see it but that doesn't really matter

hearty shard
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ok

grand flower
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Network messages aren't free either

true cedar
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^

slate flume
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All the time I see devs in this chat going "Shave these nanoseconds off of this call for this small plugin" and it's like, man it really isn't needed

grand flower
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SL's abuse of those doesn't help

slate flume
grand flower
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Hell in this scenario you can use SL's visibility controller and cache results

true cedar
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good habits

hearty shard
grand flower
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Would probably be a cheap optimization so you don't send a network message for no reason

slate flume
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Different projects have different needs

hearty shard
slate flume
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The performance impact is non-existent for someone like me

hearty shard
slate flume
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So why do it

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Is literally my whole point

grand flower
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How many servers are you running on one machine

true cedar
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i think ur overthinking this

grand flower
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What kind of hardware

slate flume
slate flume
slate flume
grand flower
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

slate flume
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You guys keep shrugging because I'm making the point that if you don't need to optimize, then you don't have to do it

grand flower
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I aggressively optimize and if I see stabler tps on our charts i'm happy

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Even if it took 50 tiny microoptimizations

slate flume
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Yes

slate flume
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Optimization is good for you because you need more stable TPS

grand flower
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As stable as can be with sl kek

slate flume
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I'm saying if you're already stable, why continue doing micro-optimizations

grand flower
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No but I get paislee's point

hearty shard
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stabler is not a real word i dont acknowledge it

grand flower
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I hammer that into juniors I mentor at work

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Good habits go a long ways long term

slate flume
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I write python code sometimes

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This python code may not be the fastest but it does the job I need it to

true cedar
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if ur writing python optimization should be the least of ur concerns sure

slate flume
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And the time saved in most cases between what I need it to do and what it does is negligible

grand flower
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There's a difference between a script you run as a one off and games where your code can run hundreds of times a second

slate flume
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But when it does matter, I optimize it and rewrite it

hearty shard
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Idk i think when ur doing python ur usually not caring about these things

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i think sl should stop optimizing

slate flume
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You're all missing the point

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I don't know how much clearer I can make it

true cedar
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me when people disagree

grand flower
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We're talking in terms of SL

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Optimization goes a very long way in SL doesn't matter how tiny

slate flume
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“Premature optimization is the root of all evil.”

grand flower
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The game already runs on hopes and dreams

hearty shard