plugins-dev-chat

[south socket]

yes!!!!!!!!!!!

[celest thorn]

i can talk about other games

sl is not that cool anymore

and there are no rules about it

[spare zodiac]

can I change seed while the round is still on going?

[celest thorn]

it will not do anything

you could try but nothing will happen for sure

[spare zodiac]

japjier dole

[celest thorn]

Honestly we should follow this guy

[unique crane]

This gives me the dinosaur metorite meme vibes

[celest thorn]

AHAHHAHAHAHHA

im laughing so hard rn

i forgot about this meme

[upper vapor]

best bet is fast restart

still restarts the round though

[unique crane]

No

[upper vapor]

though i don't recommend using fast restart in general

[unique crane]

Set it during OnMapGenerating event

[celest thorn]

i use fast restart and i have no problem

(only for one server)

[unique crane]

Fast restart makes common players think that their game froze

[upper vapor]

XDDD

yes

[celest thorn]

oh no i use Server.Restart()

and thats it

lol

[upper vapor]

and it's had unmerous issues

[upper vapor]

that's not called fast restart then

i mean it is a

fast

restart

if it'sf ast

[unique crane]

Fast restart is just your game freezes

and you suddenly appear at waiting screen

[celest thorn]

Crazy

let me test it

oh no

wai

its a bad idea

because i forgot this community is composed of goldfish

[unique crane]

Yeah I think we can add like

overlay

"The server is fast restarting.. please wait.."

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/jyt28a5h.png

my optimal design

[unique crane]

Let me just put it in with the :3

i dont think that will pass Beryl dammit

[celest thorn]

AHAHAHHAHAHA

so sad

see thats why nw sucks

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/tense-table-smash-mad-gif-13656077

[celest thorn]

beryl please pass the ":3"

1st of april the entire game translated in uwuify and :3

[unique crane]

[icy knoll]

just tell them that cross really wanted it as part of the GD

theyll believe you

[celest thorn]

GD wtf is GD?

[icy knoll]

game design

[unique crane]

Game Design

[upper vapor]

[unique crane]

or I can ask Cross

[celest thorn]

Geometry dash, crazy

[icy knoll]

nerd type shit

[celest thorn]

Lol

[grave eagle]

Godot

[celest thorn]

Nah entire game uwuify

and its done

[upper vapor]

calling godot "GD engine" is insane

[unique crane]

The U Engine

[celest thorn]

what's sl engine?

[upper vapor]

XDDD

[celest thorn]

SCP Engine?

[unique crane]

Oh wait Ive got perfect solution

Im gonna make the overlay text syncvar

FUCK

wrong zero

[celest thorn]

AHahhahaa

[unique crane]

@celest thorn

There is like 50000 of you

[celest thorn]

You know something funny

one time i needed to be renamed

because a fucker copied my ALL account

and the mods didn't want to ban him

because he was sucking their dick

and i was punished for "impersonating"

[tepid sluice]

COPY

[celest thorn]

I left that community 1 month after lol

[icy knoll]

every active person in this channel should now nickname themselves zer0two

just to fuck with david

:3

[celest thorn]

crazy

[icy knoll]

just kidding hehe

[celest thorn]

crazy evil

this the level of evil you don't see every day

[unique crane]

):

[icy knoll]

just rememeber david

im not as evil as eve

[celest thorn]

true

if you remove the last "e" and add "il", evil

[celest thorn]

lumi do you have a nintendo switch?

[upper vapor]

❌ evelyn
✅ evilyn

[celest thorn]

So true

[icy knoll]

switch 1, yeah

2, no

[celest thorn]

any game to reccomend

just finished off XC2

(im still doing the DLC)

[icy knoll]

zelda totk

[celest thorn]

I mean alot of people told me a really good game

i could try it

ngl

[icy knoll]

mario odyssey is also good

[celest thorn]

My eyes are probably set to Mario ALL STAR

like mario galaxy "remastered"

im already there crying

Mario brothership is AMAZING as always

Mario & Luigi games always the best tho

i think i would buy a nintendo switch only if more mario & luigi games are out

[hearty shard]

shhh

[sweet flax]

can they add to discord channels for Plugin requests and paid plugins like in exiled

[languid temple]

I doubt we are going to support paid plugins

[sweet flax]

why?

let people make many for good work

it's optional to pay of they don't want to pay learn how to make plugins

[languid temple]

Someone gets scammed
We are going to get blamed
No thanks

[sweet flax]

oh alr

[celest thorn]

it makes alot of sense

lol

btw chat is alive

[south socket]

just dont pay for your plugins

[celest thorn]

crazy

[languid temple]

Plus it creates some other issues, what if someone purchases a plugin then just sells it as their own or just publish it for free

Selling plugins is pointless

[celest thorn]

It happened to me

[icy knoll]

just make the plugins urself smh, if you have the role, you are a plugin developer, as implied by the role's name 😭

[celest thorn]

and honestly i didn't care

[celest thorn]

skill issue

[languid temple]

Requests are not necessarily a bad idea though

But feel like that's just going to be used to beg people with knowledge to make shit

[celest thorn]

I mean until they aren't like crazy unresonable one

[sweet flax]

so is there a way you could make a Plugin for requests so someone could ask for a plugin and someone would make it

[south socket]

99% just have the role to check the channels & plugins channel

[celest thorn]

it could be used for the same exact like

If you make this plugin i will pay it, on exiled some people do that on the stuff or they say it in dms

yesterday someone tried to pay me for my help on exiled

[languid temple]

If they do it dms that's not our problem anymore

[celest thorn]

(which i declined obv)

[celest thorn]

that makes sense ig

[languid temple]

I guess a request channel could be created, but we'd have to talk with API programmers to get their opinion, also Lucid would have to support it, I guess that channel would also need some guidelines so people don't "abuse it" or spam it. I can bring up the idea to Lucid in the future if it's really needed.

If he supports it, he'll talk with the necessary people and we'll see where that takes us

[sweet flax]

thanks

[celest thorn]

@ everyone please support this

[tepid sluice]

so its paid or unpaid request

[sweet flax]

unpaid

[celest thorn]

unpaid

[tepid sluice]

nice

[celest thorn]

.

unpaid is for this reason which makes sense

[languid temple]

I could leave a poll here if you guys want, I can check back on it in a few hours

[celest thorn]

ig

[south socket]

Woweee polls

[languid temple]

I swear we used to have permission to create polls...

[celest thorn]

skill issue

[tepid sluice]

[languid temple]

No poll for now ig

[celest thorn]

here's the poll

Unpaid Request Channel

Yes ✅
No ⛔

Solved see

[tepid sluice]

lmao

[celest thorn]

be creative

[sweet flax]

now ping plugindev (jk)

and solved

[celest thorn]

@ everyone please vote yes

[tepid sluice]

@plugin dev

[languid temple]

Good enough for now, feel to ping me in like 10-12 hrs

[celest thorn]

ok let me set it as a reminder

[languid temple]

I'll check back and see what's up

[tepid sluice]

pin it just

[celest thorn]

just made the reminder

now its time to get everyone to vote it lol

[sweet flax]

VOTE HERE

[tepid sluice]

i forwarded it to discord suggestion chat

[celest thorn]

crazy my solution works

[slate flume]

Awesome!

[restive turret]

Tbh I dont really care

[icy knoll]

is it possible to make 096 see their team mates whilst enraged? got a suggestion for it and idk, i was thinking updating visibility or adding the scps as targets? but idk if that would break anything lol, probably adding targets would but ye

[unique crane]

Well the visibility event should take care of that

[icy knoll]

PlayerEvents.ValidatedVisibility?

[unique crane]

ye

[icy knoll]

ill look into it, thanks david

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/arqeusyl.png

I got to an area with the elevator and fell to the last jump so sad

before the habitat zone

[unique crane]

rip

[celest thorn]

and i cannot save

[unique crane]

You need to buy/find save disks

[celest thorn]

i found out that saves aren't for demo

[unique crane]

oh right

rip

[celest thorn]

Yea but you cannot in the demo

[unique crane]

Buy the full game

[celest thorn]

lol

i mean i could

[unique crane]

You get perks too

really helpful

[celest thorn]

which is kinda cool

yea

game is cool asf

[unique crane]

sometimes hella op

[celest thorn]

but before i need to finish XC2 Dlc

The problem is that its hella boring

[unique crane]

Like if you have extended arm perks and some faster climbing speed

and you do that elevator part

[celest thorn]

like i need to do alot of side quest

[unique crane]

you can do it in like a minute

[celest thorn]

wanna know something crazy

im doign all of my runs without using items

idk why

i want to step up the game

[unique crane]

You dont need to use that many items

[celest thorn]

because first section is hella easy

[unique crane]

but sometimes you need them

[celest thorn]

obv only when needed

[unique crane]

Some sections will just trap you

if you dont have any

or are useful

Liike the elevator part

where you go to the habitation zone

[celest thorn]

Yea i lost there

[unique crane]

YOu dont need to go to the buttons

and turn them on

[celest thorn]

NO?

[unique crane]

you can snipe them by the javelin

XD

thingy

spear

[celest thorn]

LOl

I didn't know

i fell to the last one

lol

[unique crane]

Or you can skip the whole part altogether

The hatch is open

All you need is the cute bug item

which you squish and can climb walls

[celest thorn]

oh that thing

wtf it does

i saw it took it and made me fall

lol

[unique crane]

You squish and you can climb walls

[celest thorn]

THATS WHY

i probably grabbed the wall

lol

i was so confused

[unique crane]

yea

You combine this with adrenaline and your going fast

[celest thorn]

adrenaline is OP

[unique crane]

There is also a perk that makes effects of these items doubled

[celest thorn]

its already op

[unique crane]

there is also infinite stamina for 2 minutes item

[celest thorn]

at that point make noclip

[unique crane]

So you make it 4

[unique crane]

There is blink eye

you can tp with

[celest thorn]

NAh

[unique crane]

short distances

[celest thorn]

I was joking

[unique crane]

But you need full game fo that

[celest thorn]

god dammit

[unique crane]

as its only in endless mode

Yeah you unluck stuff the campaign in endless mode sometimes

crazy

[celest thorn]

Endless sounds fun

this game is removing my will to make maps for ATOH

like i know i have 1 year to make a hub

but idk i like to plan things out

[spare zodiac]

yoo how do I get tickets of wave in this new epic update?

[icy knoll]

LabAPI has a RespawnWave class

RespawnWave::RespawnTokens

if you want to go base game

then Wave is ILimitedWave wave

then wave.RespawnTokens

[spare zodiac]

does anything inherit this?

[icy knoll]

yes

MiniRespawnWave and any of the base game waves

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/tree/master/LabApi/Features/Wrappers/Facility/Respawning/Waves

probably should use this for timers

[spare zodiac]

that's wrapper though

I'm using SpawnableWaveBase

[icy knoll]

then yeah use ILimitedWave check

[spare zodiac]

I love generics so much

[pallid galleon]

Is there any good ways to check if a player is in an elevator?

[icy knoll]

i think you have to check every elevator and see if the player is contained in the bounds

lemme check

yeah it seems that way

[pallid galleon]

damn, alrighty

cheers

[icy knoll]

ElevatorChamber::WorldspaceBounds.Contains(Player::Position)

there might be a better way, but for now i cant see one lol

[unique crane]

Wrapper has the bounds too I believe

[pallid galleon]

Got it working, ty!

[icy knoll]

i couldnt find the wrapper

[unique crane]

Elevator

[icy knoll]

so i gave base game

[icy knoll]

i couldnt find it in the file tree

at all

so

[unique crane]

oof

[mild walrus]

how i can access elevator properties for lockdown ? like the scp 049 and 173 elevator

[random scaffold]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1194699762109263953/1197102120516730960/9055BC1F-D4A9-43DF-A5FD-8D50F584C1C0.gif

[random scaffold]

make a plugin

[mild walrus]

thats what im doing

[random scaffold]

then just get access

and change

[mild walrus]

this but with elevators????

[random scaffold]

yes

[upper vapor]

Elevator.List

look at the wrapper

[celest thorn]

How can i reset my SSSS

because as of rn its bugged asf

the old selection i did

[upper vapor]

go in appdata -> scpsl

registry.txt

[celest thorn]

crazy

[upper vapor]

delete any line that has SrvSp_

rejoin

[celest thorn]

steam is screaming at me lol

lovely

[warped prairie]

hey, one user in particular reported that they were just unable to join our server but could join others. on account of this errror. anyone know what would cause this? i thought (clone) was a unity thing

InvalidOperationException: SpectatableModuleBase of name 'ChaosRiflemanRole(Clone)' does not have an owner!
at PlayerRoles.Spectating.SpectatableModuleBase.get_TargetHub () [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0
at PlayerRoles.Spectating.SpectatableListEffects.Scp1576SpectatorIconEffect.UpdateVisibility () [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0
at PlayerRoles.Spectating.SpectatableListElementBase.Update () [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0
at PlayerRoles.Spectating.FullSizeSpectatableListElement.Update () [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0
at PlayerRoles.Spectating.StandardSpectatableListElement.Update () [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0

[unique crane]

Hello, this is a base game bug we are aware of

But this exception should not prevent you from joining a server

[warped prairie]

Alright. No worries. Thanks David

[worn gull]

How can I give infinity stamina to a player?

[icy knoll]

give them SCP207 effect

and then slowness

ig

[unique crane]

Just make the usage multiplier 0?

[worn gull]

Where can I do that?

Somwhere in fpc?

[unique crane]

In gameplay_config

or well check what the config code does

if you want it for specific player

[worn gull]

Okay

Thanks

[south socket]

Hi, does anyone know what this network message is supposed to be?

I’m getting the following in the logs:

[STDOUT] Unknown message id: 46055. This can happen if no handler was registered for this message.

And I dont have an idea which plugin is doing it. Sooooo anyone knows what message ID (46055) is handling?

[hearty shard]

ur sending a message to Server.Host (Dedicated)

its a hash of the method name and stuff

[south socket]

Yes we are trying to find out where exactly and how, I just joined the dev team there and now we have to see which dev screwed up. Thought someone might know what exactly is causing this. Now it's probably a witch hunt.

[celest thorn]

git blame

[worn gull]

                var effectName = effect.Type;
                Logger.Debug(effectName);
                var effectType = Type.GetType($"CustomPlayerEffects.{effectName}");
                Logger.Debug(effectType?.Name ?? "Effect type is null");
                if (effectType != null && typeof(StatusEffectBase).IsAssignableFrom(effectType))
                {
                    Logger.Debug($"Enabling effect {effectType.Name} with intensity {effect.Intensity} and duration {effect.Duration}");
                    player.EnableEffect((StatusEffectBase)Activator.CreateInstance(effectType), effect.Intensity,
                        effect.Duration);
                }```
Why this gives me null?

[hearty shard]

do not create new instance

just player.TryGetEffect("hi") i think

[worn gull]

Thanks

[hearty shard]

Activator.CreateInstance isnt recommended for any unity objects

[worn gull]

so player.TryGetEffect("FogControl", out var effect) player.EnableEffect(effect) should work?

[hearty shard]

effect.Intensity = 1

[worn gull]

ah okay

thanks

[random scaffold]

youtube coder moment

[random scaffold]

you make framework for auto events?

or its just one event

[upper vapor]

He just maintains the original (which was archived)

[random scaffold]

☠️

why not just create from zero by yourself

support old plugin is hell

auto event system is easy

just take much time for developing

[worn gull]

It's not for that xd

It's for another plugin xd

But yes

I'm maintaining the old one

[random scaffold]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1194699762109263953/1197102120516730960/9055BC1F-D4A9-43DF-A5FD-8D50F584C1C0.gif

[slate flume]

https://tenor.com/view/repost-gif-18212333

Anyone know how something like this can happen https://medal.tv/games/scp-secret-laboratory/clips/kTFP9zjHrMAZZLZTu?invite=cr-MSxmeUYsMjExMzg3MTM2&v=8

The scientist is wearing hat but isn't invisible

[upper vapor]

🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[slate flume]

At the beginning of the clip, the scientist is shown wearing 1344, and then is shown wearing 268

The 268 equip animation doesn't play

Is it just a problem with accidentally being given wearables?

[worn gull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/817511826530893835/1341318489138397245/20250218_100011.gif

[upper vapor]

merry sister

[slate flume]

I'm just confused

[unique crane]

Seems like something disabled his invisibility effect?

[slate flume]

There was no equip animation played or anything though

And the goggles disappearing at the beginning makes me suspect it's an issue with wearables sync and not 268 itself

[slate flume]

Well, unless he equipped it behind the pillar

[warped prairie]

Noob vs pro vs hacker vs god

[celest thorn]

@hearty shard is this u?

[languid temple]

This is eve

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1091210082605350995/1252062606626128074/caption.gif?width=716&height=659

[upper vapor]

david please tell me the stingers will be server-sent

🙏

this is really cool but if we can't disable them...

[hearty shard]

aw

cute

[hearty shard]

The What

[upper vapor]

#content-feed

[hearty shard]

Oh

[pine parcel]

Literally my first thought when I saw the post

[upper vapor]

[unique crane]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[celest thorn]

nah eve is a machine of horror

[celest thorn]

#plugins-dev-chat message
Btw here's your reminder

its still 8 hours

but ig best time to say it

[south socket]

5 people are for

!!!!

[celest thorn]

Crazy

[restive turret]

I only voted for that

[slate flume]

bump

Unless I should put it in #1274618202227216414

[icy wraith]

Is it me or sending textarea text update without overriding doesn't work anymore ???

[random scaffold]

if it static it dont will sync im guess

[worthy rune]

yeah its broken, hopefully it will be fixed next update

dont have to report it as i included the fix aspart of this while i was working on it https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/issues/253

[upper vapor]

HUH

oh

[barren pasture]

                Physics.Raycast(
                    ev.Player.Camera.position,
                    ev.Player.Camera.forward,
                    out var hitInfo) &&
                Player.TryGet(hitInfo.collider.gameObject, out puppet)))
{
                LabApi.Features.Console.Logger.Debug("[DEBUG]: Puppeteer: Not a valid player.");
                return;
}

LabApi.Features.Console.Logger.Debug("[DEBUG]: Puppeteer: Valid player.");```

[upper vapor]

has this occurred since 14.1.3 only?

[barren pasture]

So I'm using this code with a computer to get who the computer pinged, and this is code that worked in an older Exiled plugin, but now it doesn't work. I currently assume either ev.Player.Camera.position or ev.Player.Camera.forward is wrong here, but I don't know. The issue is it sends not a valid player.

[upper vapor]

why doesn't the event include the pinged object

[barren pasture]

Also I now realize putting [DEBUG] at the beginning of a debug is pointless, but it's habit from framworks for other games

idk

Maybe they were too lazy to add it

Would be SUPER helpful tho

[upper vapor]

try with the LayerMask "Player"

[barren pasture]

How?

[upper vapor]

oh because the ping is just a vector

right

[barren pasture]

Oh

Would still be helpful

[upper vapor]

you could go through the player list and raycast each individual charactercontroller instead

-# IFpcRole.FirstPersonMovementModule.CharController

[hearty shard]

Isnt this checking for NOT human ping
And them calling Player.TryGet on a non human ping

also why not use != instead of !(Statement)

[barren pasture]

!(Human ping and raycast and player)

[worthy rune]

!human ping or !raycast or !player

i would log ev.Player.Camera.position to see where it is

[barren pasture]

I'm currently logging all three and found out one is returning null, which i will figure out later

[pine parcel]

@barren pasture were you looking for code for exiled or LabApi?

also does anyone know how I can move a dummy using the built in Motor controller?

[upper vapor]

set its RelativePosition

[unique crane]

See what dummy actions does

[upper vapor]

^

[pine parcel]

is there any way I can access the above code, or is this Northwood stuff?

[unique crane]

Thats in FpcMotor

[pine parcel]

thank you!

[pine parcel]

I might be misunderstanding, but I tried to recreate the above

public void SetPosition(Vector3 dir, float distance, Player player)
{
    var hub = player.ReferenceHub;
    var mainModule = hub.GetComponent<FirstPersonMovementModule>();
    var fpcMotor = mainModule.GetComponent<FpcMotor>();

    Transform cam = hub.PlayerCameraReference;
    Vector3 relDir = cam.TransformDirection(dir).NormalizeIgnoreY();
    fpcMotor.ReceivedPosition = new RelativePosition(mainModule.Position + relDir * distance);
}

but when I use this, my dummy has no FirstPersonMovementModule, am I overcomplicating this?

[tepid sluice]

u can use ReferenceHub::TryOverridePosition

[unique crane]

That will teleport the player

[unique crane]

if(player.Role is IFpcRole fpcRole)
{
fpcRole.FirstPersonModule.Motor.Received Position = yourcode
}

or RoleBase

you need to role object

[tepid sluice]

Oh so i can move dummy like this

[unique crane]

Yes

[tepid sluice]

got it

[unique crane]

Input emulation

[pine parcel]

Thank you!!

[languid temple]

I'll forward this (Lucid is already aware of this) Beryl is currently on leave so until he comes back, don't expect anything

[icy wraith]

Thanks for letting me know. 👌

[slate flume]

I believe so

[upper vapor]

what if it's because of the overwatch spoofing thing

[sinful bronze]

No way

[upper vapor]

you mean it can strip types from TS files and run them

[slate flume]

What is that?

[restive turret]

ok and?

i dont wanna end up like the Windows 11 Task bar situation

[unique crane]

Whats Windows 11 task bar situation

[icy knoll]

that's what the new node version does

it legit just strips the types

and runs the file

[unique crane]

Sounds like some moistcritical video XD

[upper vapor]

it's r*act

[icy knoll]

fuck off is it?

[slate flume]

I just wanna know if it's possible there's a wearables sync issue or something else

[unique crane]

No reports of that in bug reports

so might be plugin issue

[slate flume]

This one guy keeps fucking harassing me about it and I just wanna fix it

[unique crane]

unless you get reproduction steps

[slate flume]

I don't do anything with wearables, 268, or 1344

[barren pasture]

LabApi, the older plugin is exiled, I'm trying to make it labapi

[slate flume]

Does anyone have any insight into this, anyone ever experienced anything like this?

I mean if no one's got any ideas I'm just gonna root around the assembly and see if I find any potential issues

Which will likely lead to me asking a lot of dumb questions

One thing I noticed

Before the payloadwriter is written to it typically is reset

That doesn't happen in OnHubAdded

Also idk if it's a problem that the network writer is static and shared but I'd presume not?

[slate flume]

This sticks out to me @unique crane am I crazy or is this an issue

[unique crane]

Can you.. replicate the issue in vanilla server?

[slate flume]

I don't know how to replicate it

I don't know how the issue is caused

That's the thing

You're asking me to reproduce and I don't know how

I just know the issue has happened

I know I don't fuck with wearables so the only other way I can actually resolve this goddamn issue is by rooting around NW code

I don't know what else you want me to do in this situation

I'm doing my fucking best

[unique crane]

Well, ask the guy that keeps bothering you about it to tell you more on what happened

where

How often does it happen

[slate flume]

Not often, it's happened multiple times though

Where it happens is inconsistent

He hasn't provided me a lot of details and I've tried grilling him about it

[modern lark]

that's the first time I've seen such an issue, as you're supposed to see the hat on head only in spectator mode

[slate flume]

I'm pretty sure the issue isn't that hat didn't work and just that the wearables sync got scuffed

[unique crane]

Do you mess with role sync in any way?

[slate flume]

No

[worthy rune]

do you have any code subscribed to ValidatedVisibility

[slate flume]

No

[worthy rune]

is cedmod installed

[slate flume]

Yes

I apologize I'm just losing my mind over here cause this one guy keeps being such a dick towards me about this issue and I have no idea what's going on

I just wanna fix it

[worthy rune]

i know hat had issues with cedmod but that was awhile ago.dont think the issue is around now, but cedmod uses alot of patches so theres always a chance it can break or break your plugins if you have a harmony prefix in the same place

[slate flume]

^

At the beginning of the clip the scientist is shown wearing 1344 and then it just disappears

That leads me to believe the problem is wearables sync shit and not the hat itself

Especially since that player is never shown equipping hat nor did I find any mention of him doing so in the CedMod logs

[worthy rune]

thing is, the position isnt synced by the server if they are wearing hat, only way around it is if your changing the result of the visibility either in the labapi event, or through a patch

[slate flume]

^

[worthy rune]

ic

[slate flume]

People keep getting stuck on the hat thing

[modern lark]

Welp, in any way, this doesn't seem related to LabAPI but may be a patch

[slate flume]

This is the only avenue I have to talk to other devs about this problem

I just want to resolve it so this guy gets off my fucking back

[worthy rune]

probably what axwabo/david said about the rolesync stuff. that was a major change which could brreak syncing stuff like this

[slate flume]

I don't do rolesync

So it would have to be base-game

[worthy rune]

yeah we are refering to the base-game one

[slate flume]

This stuck out to me

Now idk if the OnHubAdded is called when a player becomes visible again to the client

[unique crane]

No

[slate flume]

Just throwing out ideas because I'm very confused

[worthy rune]

have you heard of the issue happening on other servers

[slate flume]

I've been told it's happened on kitchen island before but idk I don't play the game a lot

[worthy rune]

on the server im a dev for the players generally complain the second the see something like this(from experience last time cedmod casued it) but so far i havent heard it yet for 14.1.3

[slate flume]

I apologize I'm not being the most helpful here just this is very weird

[worthy rune]

was this in 14.1.3, as theres was an issue not long before that update that caused hat players not to dissapear(not the same issue i know, but it was reported by the attackers, not the victims. so its pretty much looks the same)

[slate flume]

The clip is from like 4 days ago

[worthy rune]

ki does use cedmod, which is the only public plugin for that server

kinda hard to narrow it down further, its likely cedmod or base game

[slate flume]

Well I'll forward the message to cedric in the CedMod discord then

[upper vapor]

what if it's both

[slate flume]

I just hope the issue gets resolved I don't wanna keep having to deal with this guy

Fuck

😭

What the fuck is happening bro

[south socket]

just dont use cedmod

[slate flume]

It could be base game issue is the thing

[icy knoll]

to be frank, a lot of servers could probably get away without having cedmod

lol

[south socket]

i know but someone had to write this message

you know i just took the job

[slate flume]

Real

[restive turret]

Yes its run on react native

As said
React to hell
Native my ass

[slate flume]

I'm not a big CedMod guy cause I feel like it does too much

[icy knoll]

the native has a meaning

[slate flume]

I don't get why some plugins feel like they need to do everything

It's okay to have a niche

[icy knoll]

it means that it can run on any device, as it will get compiled to that language

every framework does it

lol

[restive turret]

Ye but react native is not

[icy knoll]

yuppppp

[restive turret]

I mean i don see the meaning of it

[icy knoll]

that's why i made the stuff i have made, the way it's made lol

[restive turret]

Just to slap some words after it

[icy knoll]

i dont want my plugins to have more than necessary

just add extension plugins to extend onto it

[languid temple]

I don't understand why that's a problem, imo it's easier to install a few plugins and those do almost everything you want instead of having to install 20+

[slate flume]

Because it does stuff I don't want it to do lmao

[icy knoll]

that's the wrong mindset to have

lol

[upper vapor]

make your plugin modular and include a version that has all the modules

[south socket]

make your plugin being a plugin...

[languid temple]

iirc with Cedmod specifically you can disable shit

[upper vapor]

uuuuhhhhh

[slate flume]

Yeah but disabling it doesn't remove the code

The code still exists and sometimes causes issues

[languid temple]

[icy knoll]

yes but a lot of it isn't disableable

[restive turret]

Just dont use it

Patch cedmod

[icy knoll]

like you'll still have bs you dont fucking want

lol

[slate flume]

I mean I like CedMod for the moderation tools
(e.g. web client, synced bans)
But why is it doing shit like anti-cheat measures and patches for rolesync and other stuff like that?
I never asked for that

[south socket]

just write your own cedmod

[restive turret]

I patched exiled stuff that I dont want so

[icy knoll]

you can disable the anti-cheat stuff

but i agree

[upper vapor]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[icy knoll]

cedmod isn't fucking anti cheat

[slate flume]

Literally

[languid temple]

nope but it helps

[south socket]

cedmod broke 939

[slate flume]

Just make it a separate plugin for people who want it

[icy knoll]

cedmod is becoming a larger plugin in file size just because it includes features that you dont need, or you just disable.

[languid temple]

bother ced to make it modular

lol

[restive turret]

Y'know what is modular

[upper vapor]

petition to rename cedmod's "anticheat" to "niche-scenario-and-sometimes-basegame-breaking-cheater-confusion-inflicting-attempt"

[south socket]

i didnt know that cedmod has all this features i just thought its a web panel for perms

[slate flume]

I'm probably gonna have to

[slate flume]

Literally

[upper vapor]

bother ced to make TRANSPILERS

ugh

[slate flume]

All I want is a web panel for moderation and like synced bans between servers

[south socket]

but i can also understand the people that are using it

[restive turret]

When I pile on my IL

[slate flume]

I don't need all this extra shit

[languid temple]

go ahead

[icy knoll]

legit when it came out initially i swear the code wasnt tested at all, caused so many issues that servers just disabled it, and it's still kinda broken now

[upper vapor]

i have already
i made a PR converting to transpilers
then i didn't bother with it xd
https://github.com/CedModV2/CedMod/pull/30

[icy knoll]

sure i think cedmod is quite useful, but i also believe it does too much

[restive turret]

SLAntiCheesePluginV420696661984

[slate flume]

You know CedMod has a built-in Plugin Events system?

[icy knoll]

the fact this got closed and not looked into is crazy

[upper vapor]

cuz i didn't fix the merge conflicts

[drake laptop]

[slate flume]

This is still pmo

[restive turret]

Bro I DONT KNOW

[slate flume]

What the fuck is happening to wearables sync to cause this

[restive turret]

remove your plugins

Dont fuckin now

[upper vapor]

remove your players

[restive turret]

Real

Close the setver

[south socket]

kiss your players

[restive turret]

Burn the pc's

[unique crane]

what

[upper vapor]

uhhhhhh

[south socket]

(only with consent)

[upper vapor]

[unique crane]

n o

[slate flume]

Me neither but I thought you guys were supposed to be smarter than me

[restive turret]

Decompile your plugins with something

[upper vapor]

you don't like kissing boys, do you

[restive turret]

See if something fucks up with inv/wearables

[slate flume]

I have CedMod, my own, and SecretAPI

I don't do anything with wearables

Cedric has no fucking clue

And SecretAPI shouldn't be fucking with wearables

[restive turret]

eve doesn't do anything with it as dar as i remember

[slate flume]

Which is why I'm asking around because it might be a base-game issue

And not a plugin issue

But idfk

[restive turret]

Idk then.
Never seen this bug

[unique crane]

Let me ask in QA channel if they heard of something

[slate flume]

Love you david

[restive turret]

Heard of me

[slate flume]

Really any and all help is appreciated

[unique crane]

i love when I press enter accidentaly

anyways

[slate flume]

I just wanna resolve this issue so it doesn't continue in the future

[restive turret]

Try replicate it

[upper vapor]

do not enter

[restive turret]

[restive turret]

leave immediately

[modern lark]

https://tenor.com/view/do-not-the-cat-cat-cats-gif-25210333

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/arrived-meme-walking-arrive-cat-gif-19928173

https://tenor.com/view/meme-departure-memes-depart-walking-gif-19928174

[restive turret]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/532275180492554241/1145759617054425238/freeze-1.gif

[south socket]

https://tenor.com/view/albert-harebrayne-bunny-rabbit-gif-10500821922776666435

uhm guys hello i wanted to ask if i can ban the host.. my server is lagging after it somehow

[south socket]

wait wait wait you have this bug too?

now i see it

[unique crane]

See now we are getting somewhere

[south socket]

and no we dont use cedmod

[slate flume]

:O

HOLY SHIT NO WAY

YES

It's been happening for at least a few days now, off and on

It's rare but it happens

[south socket]

yeah same

it happens to us also when the player is not wearing the hat

[slate flume]

It may have started before that? But I only really learned about it recently

It's killing me dude

This is huge because it means it's almost certainly not my fault this is happening

[restive turret]

Nah its all yours

You started it

Now every server will have this issue

[slate flume]

😁

You're welcome!

[restive turret]

Thanks

[upper vapor]

can't have the issue if i don't have a server

[slate flume]

Real shit

[south socket]

still no clue how to reproduce it

[slate flume]

Me neither

It's so odd

It has to be some problem with wearables sync, right?

Because in my case when I checked logs I saw no mention of the scientist in the video ever having 268

And the 1344 disappearing mid-clip is crazy

[upper vapor]

yeah i've seen cases when 268 appears to be on the player from a 3rd-person perspective

spectator, too

so maybe it's due to who the message is sent to?

if it's SendToAuthenticated then uhhhhh

gotta make sure to restore the state when the role changes

[harsh thorn]

it was tested, i spent like 3 days testing it
unfortunately i cant get all the cases of normal gameplay

its configed anyway

[harsh thorn]

i dont recall this being the case, considering i tested the 939 patch before it went out, and if that was the case
i didnt receive any bug reports about it
(especially considering this patch is now implemented into the game itself)

[harsh thorn]

well then turn it off in the config 💀
AC stuff can be turned off, the fakesync to spectator isnt even part of cedmod anymore, thats basegame
and even then it was a config all along

[harsh thorn]

such as?
if theres something that isnt a config and you want to be a config you have 2 options
ask me to make it a config
or make it a config yourself and PR it

i dont bite

like honestly, i find the "it does too much" to be the biggest bullshit argument ever
ok then disable what you dont need, if it isnt toggleable, just ask me to make it toggleable?????????
The base is perms (which can be turned off by simply not setting any perms), bans, logging (either just dont use them or set every event to be ignored), thats what it was in the beginning, and still has as its core

the AC stuff can be disabled
what else do you want to be a config?

[south socket]

I can only say what Takail said. Sorry if it's not true.

[harsh thorn]

takail didnt even use cedmod when i did anything with 939 🤨

[south socket]

He told me he used your patch for an exploit

[harsh thorn]

then he copied it wrong

💀

like legit we added my patch to the game, works fine

[south socket]

Oh yeah then im sorry

[harsh thorn]

like, i test things before i release them
in cases of the anti esp, edge cases may have been missed like sounds
its not like i play the game a lot anymore, i tested the standard stuff i could think of, and expanded it to work with what people reported
(ofcourse for that to happen people need to report things)

[slate flume]

The only reason I brought it up is because oftentimes when I have an issue, there is an attribution immediately to CedMod because of how much it does
Like when I was trying to figure out the wearables issue you know one of the first things I was told? Ask Cedric, it might be a CedMod issue

I have no idea the scope or magnitude of what things like "anti-cheat measures" are

That could be one bug fix, it could be a complete overhaul of the game

[harsh thorn]

its 4 things
preventing picking up items through walls
teleporting players out of line of sight to y 600 (same thing the game does when you wear hat)
939 exploit (basegame now)
preventing cheaters from moving when they are performing an action that locks movement

and the to spectator fakesync was part of cedmod, but was added to the game now by someone

people do kinda overshoot "how much cedmod does"

[slate flume]

I think the problem would be aided if that was made more clear

[south socket]

Wasnt there tesla check also or am I trippin

[slate flume]

Like you shouldn't have to come into dev chats and tell people individually what these things do

[harsh thorn]

oh yeah that one too

so 5 things

[harsh thorn]

i could put it in a readme somewhere, but when it was initially released it was clearly stated what was added and what it does

[slate flume]

It'd just be nice to have some way (outside of reading the source code or directly asking you) to know the specifics behind the changes you make

[south socket]

I think its called changelogs

But there are changelogs

So yeah

[slate flume]

I look at https://cedmod.nl/about

[harsh thorn]

tbh thats just old

thats mostly regarding the panel, not the extra plugin stuff

[slate flume]

Like in my case when checking wearables, I wouldn't have had to bring it to you if there was an easy way to know whether or not you made changes to wearables without reading through all of the changelogs
I know personally I keep a channel for my plugin where I give details on all the changes I make outside of changelogs

It's like a master list

[harsh thorn]

but the main problem i'm having here, is im seemingly getting a lot of flak for having features that are behind a config

[slate flume]

That way I don't have to rely on the individual person to scroll through all the changelogs I've made over the past months to see if I made a change that broke something

[harsh thorn]

when, additionally the plugin is open source
anyone can add a config for something if they need to
or even ask me, but that may depend on if i have time or not

as for the transpiler thing i read
i closed the PR because nothing happened with it

[slate flume]

I think generally part of it is if someone is using a plugin, they don't want 90% of the code to be idling doing nothing because they didn't need it for their purposes

Makes it feel bloated rather than necessary

[south socket]

Then remove it? The plugin is Open Source

[harsh thorn]

but like, what is the problem when you can just turn off a config?

like it would essentially be the same as if i separated everything into 5 different DLL files

its like like those 5kb of ram are going to affect your server

[celest thorn]

honestly i would say make a lite version

with just stuff that aren't like sentinel etc....

[slate flume]

Not everyone is a plugin dev

[harsh thorn]

again, what is the point of a "lite version"
when you can achieve said lite version
by turning off a config

[celest thorn]

Not everything can be turned off

[south socket]

For that there is a config

[harsh thorn]

like i said before, if something isnt a config that you want to be a config, they should ask

[slate flume]

Brings me back to this

[harsh thorn]

or do it themselves, one of the 2

[celest thorn]

cedmod has some dependencies i couldn't find myself

[slate flume]

I use CedMod, it works, whatever
Other people have more issues with it than I do

[celest thorn]

like if you could provide them ig then i would pr some configs and stuff

[slate flume]

I'm just trying to shed light on that

[harsh thorn]

well i have them so their somewhere, but i host my dependencies on dependencies.cedmod.nl

[celest thorn]

let me check i didn't know about that

Nice

[harsh thorn]

im just failing to see these issues

like, respectfully
if someone doesnt care about a feature they can turn it off, if theres no config. that can happen, they can ask for one (or add it)
i dont see the point of "but i dont want X" when all it takes is "hey i want to use your plugin but i dont want Y, is it possible to disable it"

and "idling code" just doesnt make sense, if theres an event handler it might not even run depending on what the config is (eg i just dont register it) or it straight up returns

transpiler shenanigans is an argument, sure
i dont write transpilers and i dont have time to learn them
if someone wants to make them, go ahead
but they should be maintainable as otherwise their getting prefixed again if i need to do something but cant get ahold of the person that made them and cant figure it out myself

like, i see the discussion here
but if you want something to happen
you need to give me feedback
as im the one that would need to make said changes, without feedback nothing will change and you'd be back here at the same discussion about "cedmod this cedmod that"
just so happens to be that i actually read this chat

[slate flume]

🤷🏼 I'm just throwing it out there because that's generally the sentiment I understand from others

[harsh thorn]

i get that, it just upsets me

[slate flume]

That's fair

I know you put a lot of work into it

And I appreciate that, and so does my server

Personally, I have things I wish I could edit in the config but I can't because I'm not the owner of the server, I'm just the plugin guy

And that's about the extent of my frustration

It lies with others and not with CedMod itself

Well also just getting spammed with errors in the console but that's kind of a given atp

Lmao

[harsh thorn]

errors is kinda a "double edged sword"
some people want their console to be "clean"
but a console is a console, its not supposed to be "clean" i should contain important logs

i can either hide them, and get questions on why logs go missing
or i can not hide them, and troubleshoot someone with repeated dissconnects that would for example be too far appart to hit some threshold

[celest thorn]

ced release the private releases

[harsh thorn]

nuh uh

[celest thorn]

;(

https://ratcentral.skibiditoilet.net/🐀/ic0yduxt.png

this are old asf

[harsh thorn]

well thats the folder creation time

[south socket]

Im feeling old asf

[slate flume]

I've actually seen you talk about this exact thing before

I mean personally if there's an error I'd like to know about it

It's less that there's an error in my console and moreso just that there's an error

[harsh thorn]

actually, it might just be that i didnt push a private build to it

cuz most updates arent updates that require a lot of work

and i just do it in the 2 days for hosts

[slate flume]

@harsh thorn I know people diss on CedMod a lot but I do wanna say that I know you put a lot of work into it and I appreciate it and respect that

Especially given how much you help others in the support channels or with bugs

And the other shit you have to do

[harsh thorn]

if anyone has an actual issue
please tell me about it instead of just gossiping here, so i can actually do something about it instead of reading back later
And if im doing something wrong please just tell me

cuz about the AC stuff, afaik it works
if it doesnt, tell me about it and give specifics so i can look into it, as if i test it, it seems to work
but if you have maybe some guy at higher ping, or different tps that can contribute too, and may not always appear in my testing

and well, i already mentioned the config stuff
as it is just upsetting to have to read back about people complaining about stuff that could have been raised to me

[celest thorn]

prefix to transpilers

[slate flume]

Real shit

[harsh thorn]

write them and we have a deal

[celest thorn]

Ok

100%

i will do it

[harsh thorn]

just make them maintainable

(so that i dont have to touch them)

[celest thorn]

do you love them like Exiled?

[south socket]

The transpiler fetishists scare me

[harsh thorn]

whar

[upper vapor]

it's not a fetish,hello?

[celest thorn]

with comment

[south socket]

IT IS

Change my mind

[harsh thorn]

well it would be nice seeing what they are doing

[celest thorn]

No its not

[unique crane]

[celest thorn]

its called make this good and faster

without re using code

[harsh thorn]

im not sure how some things could be transpilered (eg the anti esp stuff, its kind a big method)
same for preauth

[celest thorn]

and not shitting other plugins

[harsh thorn]

but i guess i will see what you do

[celest thorn]

You can just make a method

to call that stuff ig

btw @upper vapor already did it

[harsh thorn]

just need it done in a way where i can actually work with it without having to fuck about much
as i will chatgpt transpilers or just revert to a prefix if i cant get them to work and you arent responding ( 😭 )

eg on game update

[south socket]

ChatGPT transpiler 🔥

[celest thorn]

i mean methods could work

[harsh thorn]

there is one actually

i did it like that because exiled transpiles that method (for some fucking reason)

[harsh thorn]

if you can make it work that sounds good to me

[celest thorn]

obv cedmod finally optimized is like crazy news for me

perfect asf

so everyone is happy

the problem is more patches conflict than anything else

[harsh thorn]

well, i mean it is optimized
unless you refer to speed of prefixes

[south socket]

Im never happy

[harsh thorn]

but i mean, for uh the position syncer, the whole goal of it is to override the base behaviour, so im not sure how you'd pull that off as a method to not conflict
unless you like uh move the esp logic into a method and then just shove in the invisible value the checks return in place of what the visibility controller says

[harsh thorn]

my dream fr

[harsh thorn]

smh

[south socket]

You will fulfill your Dream one day!

[harsh thorn]

😔

everyone happy except myself

a small price to pay

[south socket]

That sounds way too sad

Be happy

[harsh thorn]

i try

[slate flume]

I like transpilers

I learned assembly back when I used to do a lot of cheat engine stuff

I took some tips from x3rt when he joined the server I dev for and now I know how to write some pretty good transpilers ngl

[harsh thorn]

the chatgpt transpiler in question

[south socket]

Is there a way to threat chatgpt permantly to not comment my code

[upper vapor]

me when gpt doesn't use guard clauses

[slate flume]

Some of the advice I got
Don't rely on instructions like Ldloc2
That has a chance of silently failing

[harsh thorn]

it took like 7 tries to get it to produce something working

lmao

[upper vapor]

XDDD

[unique crane]

I give it the base code

the new one

[harsh thorn]

but maybe that was because it was gpt4

[unique crane]

and the IL from dotpeek

[unique crane]

and it cooks something

Usually...

[south socket]

🧑‍🍳

[slate flume]

Some of the advice I got from x3rt

[harsh thorn]

well i gave the IL
and that i want to replace the call to vector3.bounds with my own method

[upper vapor]

me when i had a seemingly undetectable bug with 079 robot
when the player died, there was an exception and they were stuck on 0 hp, everything broke
turns out, a parameter was changed from HumanRole to IFpcRole

[harsh thorn]

[upper vapor]

i had pretty much no way to tell

[slate flume]

Yep exactly

[harsh thorn]

does it just not produce an exception?

[slate flume]

Correct

[harsh thorn]

lmao

[slate flume]

It silently fails

[harsh thorn]

i love transpilers

[slate flume]

Because the instructions compile

[upper vapor]

yeah but finding the cause was more tricky

[harsh thorn]

reminds me of the fun i had with c++

[slate flume]

^^^^

I do that for all my transpilers

[upper vapor]

when patches were run, no exception

harmony just accepted it

[slate flume]

Instead of Ldloc 3 I'll like CodeMatch the getter code -> save the index -> call it later using the saved index

It keeps my code working between versions and changes

I have like 3 transpilers(?) in my plugin atm
I added them around 14.0/14.1 I believe
They still work even through the updates

No maitenance

I usually also write some multi-line comments with my code

Usually about the size of a couple paragraphs

Just explaining my thought process and what I did to make the change

I learned a lot about transpilers and it saves me so much work to this day

[south socket]

Like me every day…

[slate flume]

Literally

[slate flume]

Codematcher my beloved 🙏🏼

[slate flume]

So yeah suffice it to say I recommend this kind of thing for anyone writing transpilers

Even though it's easy, avoid hard-coding your transpilers

They have a higher likelihood of breaking after updates and will require more maintenance

[slate flume]

I mean it's certainly saved me from a lot of needless work

When I need to update I just publicize the .dlls I need, and rebuild

Ez pz

[restive turret]

Me when Ms build does it for me

Btw i think i used some transpiler that gpt split out

I reworked like 70% of it

But a base was enough

[slate flume]

In my experience ChatGPT likes to hardcode transpilers

I dislike that

So I build mine by hand

[upper vapor]

based

[restive turret]

Tbh i lost my chat about that

So can't backtrack into that

[slate flume]

If ChatGPT was good I'd use it more

[restive turret]

I usually write into ACS and decompile my own code

[true cedar]

im so glad i got people here to switch to codematchers

[slate flume]

ChatGPT is what folks in the gaming industry like to call a "crutch item"

[true cedar]

i credit myself entirely with that

[restive turret]

I don't use it

I don't even know what's that

[slate flume]

I just read the Harmony docs where it talked about it

[restive turret]

When she match my code or smth idk

[slate flume]

I love it when she match on my code

[harsh thorn]

i havent tried with gpt5

4 struggled to produce working stuff

[restive turret]

I think i used GitHub ai for it i think

But all my chat gone

[slate flume]

I still haven't met an AI that produces code that works first try

[restive turret]

That's what happens when i don't use ai

[restive turret]

Real and same

[harsh thorn]

i mean, sometimes it does

it depends how specific your question is

ideally you shouldnt be asking it for full methods

cuz itl likely not work

[slate flume]

It depends on how much you need it to do

The use cases for AI code is very niche in this day and age

I'm sure it'll get better sometime but rn it's just passable

[harsh thorn]

most it can do is sanity check*

[slate flume]

Pretty much

I use AI primarily for code reviews

[restive turret]

"hey ai , remake sl now and write a custom engine"

[slate flume]

When I write a bunch of stuff and I'm about to test, I check with AI first for any glaring issues I overlooked

It helps me find niche side cases and things I would've otherwise not noticed until someone does a bug report

I tried 5o and the "reasoning" feature and I've still found it has about the same practicality

Doesn't really feel like much of a step up

[winged meteor]

Won’t work

Even with gpt5

[south socket]

Ofc it would

[winged meteor]

Nu uh

I can convert almost any exiled/old plugin api to labapi

[south socket]

I can convert Minecraft Plugins to LabAPI

[winged meteor]

wtf

That’s not even the same shit

I made Java HSVtoRGB in Lia

Lua*

[south socket]

We really need a scarcasm detect bot on here

[winged meteor]

I actually remade HSVtoRGB lol

[winged meteor]

I know you were being sarcastic

[south socket]

Use grok

[slate flume]

You mean Mecha Hitler? 💀

[restive turret]

[warped prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-miaw-kevin-hart-gif-16207988382548836309

[cyan crown]

@celest thorn could you provide me with map gen script?

i can't decompile the files :(

[celest thorn]

?

[cyan crown]

map gen script from scpsl code

[celest thorn]

ok

[cyan crown]

thanks :'D

[celest thorn]

What method do you need?

(hubert don't sue me :3)

[cyan crown]

like all script so i can study it and clone it for my scpsl clone

😎

[celest thorn]

bro

[cyan crown]

[celest thorn]

Decompile this fucking gamwe

its 40 fucking class

[cyan crown]

i did but it takes ages to load

[celest thorn]

skill issue

[cyan crown]

i decompiled it 8.0.1 revision then fixed all the bugs then when i upgraded to unity 2020 to fix a TMP issue it got stuck loading files :(

a decompiled version ready to be fixed 😎

[fresh zenith]

hey uh does the event OnPlayerToggledRadio also get fired when the player changes/toggles the radio range?=

[cyan crown]

:(

[restive turret]

have you tried selecting newest .net?

idk which one new unity use

i mean from netcore3x to net4x

also why are you using decompiled TextMeshPro

i dont think NW modified it

[cyan crown]

2018.2.17f1

so that it doesn't break when launching

now i will fix and delete some stuff then i can switch to unity 2021 or later

[restive turret]

why not switch to latest LTS unity?

[cyan crown]

yeah unity 6 will be better tbh

but probably everything will break

[restive turret]

ye duh

thats why there isnt much or more big project that convert old unity decompiled proj to latest unity