plugins-dev-chat

[hearty shard]

some events have it as nullable

[hearty shard]

that means NOTHING

😭

[upper vapor]

im going to kill windows

[hearty shard]

anyway

i restarted and it fixed

no warning !!

[upper vapor]

xdd

[hearty shard]

just as life intended

[slate flume]

Bump

[restive turret]

[slate flume]

If I want to change Max Ammo and Bullet Inaccuracy for a weapon, what's the best way to do it?

[ashen hornet]

||Player::Jump() works while airborne double jump plugin when??||

[static meteor]

        public static Attachment GetAttachmentByName(this Firearm firearm, AttachmentName name)
        {
            foreach (Attachment attachment in firearm.Attachments)
            {
                if (attachment.Name == name)
                    return attachment;
            }

            return null;
        }
        
        public static bool TryApplyAttachment(this Firearm firearm, AttachmentName name)
        {
            Attachment targetAttachment = firearm.GetAttachmentByName(name);
            if (targetAttachment == null)
                return false;

            uint newCode = firearm.GetCurrentAttachmentsCode();

            for (int i = 0; i < firearm.Attachments.Length; i++)
            {
                Attachment attachment = firearm.Attachments[i];
                if (attachment.Slot == targetAttachment.Slot)
                {
                    uint bitToRemove = 1u << i;
                    newCode &= ~bitToRemove;
                }
            }

            for (int i = 0; i < firearm.Attachments.Length; i++)
            {
                if (firearm.Attachments[i] == targetAttachment)
                {
                    uint bitToAdd = 1u << i;
                    newCode |= bitToAdd;
                    break;
                }
            }

            firearm.ApplyAttachmentsCode(newCode, true);
            firearm.ServerResendAttachmentCode();

            return true;
        }

[static meteor]

Jetpack joyride plugin when?

[slate flume]

Not my goal here but I appreciate it

[static meteor]

Whats your goal?

[slate flume]

I've been told attachments would sync that with the client but

^

[unique crane]

Yeah there is no check if your grounded or nah

I specifically made it like that XD

[ashen hornet]

good

[unique crane]

So you can do N jumps plugins

[upper vapor]

flappy bird

[unique crane]

Flappy Task Force

[gilded thicket]

you know i would enjoy marryhing you

[unique crane]

💀

[upper vapor]

firearm.Attachments = [..firearm.Attachments, firearm.AddComponent<CustomAttachment>()]

[upper vapor]

[gilded thicket]

why the assembly csharp not in nuget

[slate flume]

Also why the fuck did Rider suddenly stop looking at Assembly-Csharp

[gilded thicket]

this very foolish

[slate flume]

I never get it in the compiled list of items anymore

I can't find usages accurately anymore

[hearty shard]

oi

nerd

[slate flume]

I'm gonna crash out extreme

[slate flume]

So would this be the best course of action for changing max ammo and bullet inaccuracy?

[gilded thicket]

talk properly to my man.

[hearty shard]

what is collection id used for since it was specifically mentioned that we got an example of it

[gilded thicket]

thats better.

[slate flume]

Please help me I'm so upset

[unique crane]

"Added a CollectionId property to settings that saves values on the client side. Settings with the same CollectionId are shared between servers with the same AccountID."

[slate flume]

I don't know what's happening

[gilded thicket]

v1.1.1 is for which game ver

[gilded thicket]

have u restarted your rider and cleared cache 😢

[hearty shard]

14.1.3

early-server-build

[slate flume]

Yes

And factory reset all settings

[gilded thicket]

lmao

[upper vapor]

probably

[unique crane]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-it-have-you-tried-turning-it-off-and-on-again-telephone-on-call-gif-15495555

[gilded thicket]

send ur csproj (make sure you dont have your real name in it lol)

[hearty shard]

oh so you can have multiple settings on the same id but have them seperated as different settings?

[gilded thicket]

which one for normal people

1.1.0?

wait. i have an idea. i will go look at release notes

[hearty shard]

ya

[slate flume]

Sure

[upper vapor]

omg

ah hell nawh

heeeellllllnawhhh

[gilded thicket]

did you maybe update your scpsl server

[slate flume]

Yes

[gilded thicket]

you were referencing a publicized assembly csharp

[slate flume]

Yes

[gilded thicket]

is it still there

[slate flume]

Sure is

[gilded thicket]

in the publicized folder

[slate flume]

Yepp

[upper vapor]

go to file... invalidate caches

[slate flume]

I literally

Just did that

[gilded thicket]

he did

[upper vapor]

omg

did you surely republicize and copy it

[slate flume]

I did

I can try again

[unique crane]

As I understand it

multiple servers

shared SSS preferences

eg keybinds

I guess

SSFieldDemo has example

[gilded thicket]

so if you go to %USERPROFILE%\Desktop\SL Server\steamcmd\steamapps\common\SCP Secret Laboratory Dedicated Server\SCPSL_Data\Managed\Publicized\

its 100% there

🔥

[hearty shard]

SSFieldsDemoExample

[gilded thicket]

go to wherever your project is and do dotnet restore

in terminal

[hearty shard]

yes good example

[unique crane]

Yeah you just

Assign Keybind on Server A

[slate flume]

Still nothing 😭

[unique crane]

and it stays on server B

[slate flume]

I'm crashing out

[unique crane]

if you have the exact same SSS ID and colleciton id

[hearty shard]

tldr i need to set the collection id for this to work

[unique crane]

yes

[hearty shard]

coolio

omw to break everyones preferences

[gilded thicket]

you are a very interesting critter

[restive turret]

it will arleady break

dont worry

[gilded thicket]

you know that right

[slate flume]

I just want to be able to find usages correctly :(

[gilded thicket]

wait whats the issue again i forgot

your plugin is compiling correct?

[slate flume]

^

Yes

The problem is I use FindUsages on an item

And it doesn't look into Assembly-CSharp

So like I look for usages of some event args and only get my own plugin and LabAPI

But I can't find where it's called in the assembly

[gilded thicket]

let me reproduce

wait

let me reproduce your issue

is what i meant

[restive turret]

huh

[gilded thicket]

when u ctrl + click SendBroadacst in ev.Player.SendBroadcast

it decompiles the assembly?

[slate flume]

Yep

Takes me right there

[gilded thicket]

ok

narrows it down this is so awesome

[slate flume]

That's also LabAPI

Which is already working for find usages

[gilded thicket]

broadcastflags

do it for that

[slate flume]

Works

[gilded thicket]

if u right click broadcastflags and do find usages here it finds them?

[slate flume]

OMG yeah lol wtf

[upper vapor]

[gilded thicket]

in your project does it

do that

[slate flume]

But I try to get PlayerIdlingTeslaEventArgs and it doesn't

[gilded thicket]

delete .idea folder

close rider before^

[slate flume]

Dope

[gilded thicket]

when u restart

rider

does it still have the issue

[slate flume]

Still broken :(

😭

[gilded thicket]

u removed and readded the dep right

im thinking u have some strange perproject setting

[slate flume]

I have no fucking clue

[gilded thicket]

wait diagnose that

can u go on another project and see if it owrks there

[slate flume]

I'll create an entirely new project just to be safe

Same thiung

[gilded thicket]

is your resharper laced

[slate flume]

Probably

[gilded thicket]

rename assembly csharp publicized to smth and try that

[slate flume]

Same issue

Try finding usages for PlayerIdlingTeslaEventArgs

I wanna see if it's just me

Or if it's like

[frail zinc]

Use visual studio

[slate flume]

It doesn't show up

[slate flume]

Rider gives me better code suggestions

[gilded thicket]

my find usages doesnt work like yours does

[slate flume]

Fuck

[gilded thicket]

how did u get it to do that

[slate flume]

WHAT

[gilded thicket]

this is what i got after ctrl + click then find usages

[slate flume]

Broooo so it just

[frail zinc]

Yeah, maybe you should consider my offer

[slate flume]

Isn't in the assembly?

[gilded thicket]

no

it is

wait

[slate flume]

Cause it's doing the same thing for you

[gilded thicket]

wait nvm i have the same thing

[slate flume]

Yeah

[gilded thicket]

let me dnspy

[frail zinc]

What are you trying to do

[slate flume]

My original goal was to view the code around the PlayerHurtingEventArgs so I could know how the game handles it

The problem is that find usages for the event args is showing 0 results from the assembly

[unique crane]

Use dotpeek

if rider doesnt work

[gilded thicket]

dotpeek dnspy ilspy whatever

but fix rider

[frail zinc]

Idk why so many people around here use rider

[slate flume]

Good code suggestions

[frail zinc]

It is like specific to this community x)

[upper vapor]

because it's not visual studio

[slate flume]

Rider > VS

[upper vapor]

definitely not

[frail zinc]

💀

[slate flume]

I used to use VS exclusively

[upper vapor]

and then you broke free

[gilded thicket]

linux

more lightweight also

[slate flume]

When dotpeek doesn't work

Crazy work

[gilded thicket]

        public bool DealDamage(DamageHandlerBase handler)
        {
            if (this._hub.characterClassManager.GodMode)
            {
                return false;
            }
            SpawnProtected spawnProtected;
            if (this._hub.playerEffectsController.TryGetEffect<SpawnProtected>(out spawnProtected) && spawnProtected.IsEnabled)
            {
                return false;
            }
            IDamageHandlerProcessingRole damageHandlerProcessingRole = this._hub.roleManager.CurrentRole as IDamageHandlerProcessingRole;
            if (damageHandlerProcessingRole != null)
            {
                handler = damageHandlerProcessingRole.ProcessDamageHandler(handler);
            }
            ReferenceHub attacker = null;
            AttackerDamageHandler attackerDamageHandler = handler as AttackerDamageHandler;
            if (attackerDamageHandler != null)
            {
                attacker = attackerDamageHandler.Attacker.Hub;
            }
            PlayerHurtingEventArgs playerHurtingEventArgs = new PlayerHurtingEventArgs(attacker, this._hub, handler);
            PlayerEvents.OnHurting(playerHurtingEventArgs);
            if (!playerHurtingEventArgs.IsAllowed)
            {
                return false;
            }
            DamageHandlerBase.HandlerOutput handlerOutput = handler.ApplyDamage(this._hub);
            PlayerEvents.OnHurt(new PlayerHurtEventArgs(attacker, this._hub, handler));
            if (handlerOutput == DamageHandlerBase.HandlerOutput.Nothing)
            {
                return false;
            }
            Action<ReferenceHub, DamageHandlerBase> onAnyPlayerDamaged = PlayerStats.OnAnyPlayerDamaged;
            if (onAnyPlayerDamaged != null)
            {
                onAnyPlayerDamaged(this._hub, handler);
            }
            Action<DamageHandlerBase> onThisPlayerDamaged = this.OnThisPlayerDamaged;
            if (onThisPlayerDamaged != null)
            {
                onThisPlayerDamaged(handler);
            }
            if (handlerOutput == DamageHandlerBase.HandlerOutput.Death)
            {
                PlayerDyingEventArgs playerDyingEventArgs = new PlayerDyingEventArgs(this._hub, attacker, handler);
                PlayerEvents.OnDying(playerDyingEventArgs);
                if (!playerDyingEventArgs.IsAllowed)
                {
                    return false;
                }
                RoleTypeId roleId = this._hub.GetRoleId();
                Vector3 position = this._hub.GetPosition();
                Vector3 velocity = this._hub.GetVelocity();
                Quaternion rotation = this._hub.PlayerCameraReference.rotation;
                Action<ReferenceHub, DamageHandlerBase> onAnyPlayerDied = PlayerStats.OnAnyPlayerDied;
                if (onAnyPlayerDied != null)
                {
                    onAnyPlayerDied(this._hub, handler);
                }
                Action<DamageHandlerBase> onThisPlayerDied = this.OnThisPlayerDied;
                if (onThisPlayerDied != null)
                {
                    onThisPlayerDied(handler);
                }
                this.KillPlayer(handler);
                PlayerEvents.OnDeath(new PlayerDeathEventArgs(this._hub, attacker, handler, roleId, position, velocity, rotation));
            }
            return true;
        }

[upper vapor]

my eyes

[gilded thicket]

wall of text

[frail zinc]

Visual studio is also on linux

[gilded thicket]

this is what you are looking for

[gilded thicket]

what since hwen

[upper vapor]

since when bruh 😭

[slate flume]

How did you find it

[upper vapor]

are you running it on wine

[gilded thicket]

no even with wine u cant

[restive turret]

HUH

HOW

[gilded thicket]

dnSpy

idk what hes talking about

do you mean visual studio code

?

[upper vapor]

lmfao

[slate flume]

Crazy that dotpeek didn't work

[upper vapor]

i hope so

[slate flume]

I also have dnspy

Lemme try it

[upper vapor]

did you update your labapi reference

[upper vapor]

"the top pick for java and web developers"

[frail zinc]

Maybe its visual studio code

[slate flume]

How can

[upper vapor]

yeah

[slate flume]

I do

That

I don't use dnSpy a lot

[slate flume]

Yes

OHHH

Fuck

That's why isn't it

[frail zinc]

I know an another dev community, and except for one person, all of them use visual studio

[gilded thicket]

vs is the most common ide

[frail zinc]

Yeah

[gilded thicket]

the spread of rider started with joker on exiled

i was there when it all started

[upper vapor]

"visual studio, visual studio code... same thing, just like java and javascript"

[upper vapor]

that's one

[frail zinc]

Omg

[gilded thicket]

this is build tools

[frail zinc]

Yeah

[gilded thicket]

guys whats the scp # of the fuckass goggles

1344?

[slate flume]

Yes

[upper vapor]

yes

[gilded thicket]

thanks

[slate flume]

So did Find Usages break because I updated LabAPI?

[upper vapor]

when i discovered intellij after using eclipse

https://tenor.com/view/man-free-man-freedom-free-chain-gif-2032133702890087634

[gilded thicket]

did it fix?

[unique crane]

ECLIPSE PEAK

[upper vapor]

NO

NO

[frail zinc]

Real developers use notepad anyways

[gilded thicket]

i had to use ts for work

[upper vapor]

*neovim

[unique crane]

I ended up as last person in whole class

using eclipse

when we did java

and where did I get?

best programmer

correlation?

[gilded thicket]

switched to C#.

[unique crane]

I think so

[upper vapor]

because they all dropped out

[unique crane]

1. game dev
2. we did either way the next year

[unique crane]

nah

[gilded thicket]

i genuinely just use vsc for everything

[unique crane]

We stayed as class the whole time

only like 3 people left

[gilded thicket]

i will not fall for your install 10000 jetbrains ide propaganda

[unique crane]

I only used pycharm

for python

because I didnt know anything else

[upper vapor]

at least you're not one of those people who bitch about not having JS intellisense despite refusing to install extensions

Rider can do python and web anyway

[unique crane]

JavaScript?

[upper vapor]

yea

[unique crane]

I sleep

[upper vapor]

xd

[frail zinc]

I hate python, but at school, we used to learn python on a unknown ide "edupython" 💀

[upper vapor]

HUH

[gilded thicket]

hahaha my friend uses that

unironically

[upper vapor]

python hater spotted

opinion accepted

[gilded thicket]

didnt even go to school or anyhting just chose it out of their own volition

[restive turret]

how about you write your own lang

[upper vapor]

at zero

[gilded thicket]

golang rating???

am i the only one who uses ai for frontend

[upper vapor]

do you hate css

[gilded thicket]

i hate all frontend work

ai and cursor are a blessing

[upper vapor]

then don't frontend

[frail zinc]

Frontend need to be creative

It's very difficult

And with ai...

[gilded thicket]

no i have the creativity

i make the layout myself

i just hate making it

its repetitive and annoying work

[frail zinc]

Yeah totally

And backend is so much logical and easier

[gilded thicket]

yessss

i feel like frontend is just scripting

backend is so goated

[frail zinc]

x)

[slate flume]

I haven't reverted it to the old version cause I made changes requiring the new version

My guess is that because Assembly-Csharp was built with the older LabAPI, find usages breaks when using the new LabAPI in my plugin

[slate flume]

Oh damn

So

Using the new LabAPI do I have to add it to my server dependencies or something?

I've noticed that my server is stalling on startup since updating my plugin's LabAPI

[upper vapor]

are you on early-server-build

#plugins-dev-chat message

[restive turret]

😭 😢 💀

[slate flume]

Oh shit

I realize now

I have no idea how to change that

[gilded thicket]

r we deaduzz

steamcmd?

-beta early-server-build

[restive turret]

Or if you are using steam
Properties, beta

[gilded thicket]

when u want to go back to default u dont remove the arg but change it to -beta public

[slate flume]

I've just never had to do it before 😭

Thank you

The help is 100% appreciated haha

[gilded thicket]

dw dont be ashamed gangy

[slate flume]

Crazy that I learned how to casually do shit like reflection and yet I still need to ask help relating to adding a a bit to the command line

Lmao

[gilded thicket]

i struggled with this exact thing for like 1h

im goated

[gilded thicket]

are you gonna study in cs

[slate flume]

Nah my experience with CS in school sucked

I'm entirely self-taught

[gilded thicket]

same twin

im starting in 1 month

[warped prairie]

With SSS changing what will i need to change within existing things to make sure they work still?

[gilded thicket]

nothing

[hearty shard]

set CollectionId if you need to use the feature, otherwise dont do anything

[slate flume]

That's hype as shit

[gilded thicket]

yess

u should learn random stuff

have u only made c# stuff

[slate flume]

I learned HTML and CSS, then Python, then C#

[warped prairie]

ok cool ty :)

[slate flume]

Somewhere in there I learned Assembly

And ig by extension I learned a good bit of IL

[gilded thicket]

break your head

i dont know whats the proper way to say this in english

lmao this sounds like a threat wait

like complicate your life is what i mean

[slate flume]

I always am trying to learn new things

[hearty shard]

as in set it between 0 and 20 IF you need between server share

idk if i worded it right first time

[gilded thicket]

yesss

like make a plugin that has a web panel

realworld stuff 🔥

FARM job experience

[slate flume]

Actually planning on this

[gilded thicket]

https://kimotherapy.dev

[slate flume]

I got flamed for the idea by other devs in here but I'm gonna do it anyways lmao

[gilded thicket]

is ts tuff

[gilded thicket]

if youre making it to accomplish smth it dont matter

[slate flume]

I'm doing it anyways cause my dopamine receptors activate when I delete a dependency

Having the know-how to do everything you want to and not relying on other people is kinda tuff

[gilded thicket]

real

be unreplaceable by ai 🔥

[slate flume]

Literally

I AM the ai

[slate flume]

Now that I've updated Assembly-Csharp to the new public beta I've got my find usages back :)

You like my patch?

[gilded thicket]

what

is it to have more priority?

[slate flume]

It prevents PlayerHurting events from running for 079

[gilded thicket]

ah ok

[slate flume]

Fun fact: if you run ev.IsAllowed = false; for the RecontainmentDamageHandler in OnPlayerHurting, 079 becomes invincible

So if you, for instance, have a custom item that isn't supposed to do damage

You get fucked over

[gilded thicket]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/751476755281215570/1130735017513996338/caption.gif

[slate flume]

For real dude

I hope you know I immediately reposted that in another channel as if I was the one who found it

[gilded thicket]

tuff

[slate flume]

Thanks for the meme

Lmao

[gilded thicket]

[slate flume]

What's even funnier is I just posted that in an announcements channel on like an 800 player server

[gilded thicket]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/478224237065273344/1121107064593334443/fksdjfjh.gif

[slate flume]

Lmao

The funny thing is I have a handful of debug commands that do this type of shit

[gilded thicket]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1059999625521664111/1152364169841090671/attachment.gif

[slate flume]

I made dummies and gave them aimbot

[gilded thicket]

tuff

[slate flume]

I like this @gilded thicket guy

[gilded thicket]

🥰

[slate flume]

Lemme check this

[slate flume]

firearm doesn't have AddComponent :(

You also can't set attachments

Luckily though all this means is I have to figure out how to add a subcomponent

[slate flume]

Okay

I have no clue what the fuck to do

[gilded thicket]

what r u trying to do

[slate flume]

Make my own Custom Attachment to do my own shit with

[hearty shard]

I dont think thats how sl works

[slate flume]

Wdym

[hearty shard]

i dont think you can do that

[slate flume]

Why not :(

[hearty shard]

well idk what they made possible in the latest update

With firearms

but ik theres not a lot yoi could do before

[slate flume]

I just wanna modify bullet inaccuracy and shit

Why is that such a problem

[hearty shard]

is that even a feature

[slate flume]

Yeah lmao

[hearty shard]

And if it is.. why attachment

[slate flume]

You can change it on attachments already

[hearty shard]

Oh they made it server sided?

[slate flume]

And it syncs with the client

[unique crane]

I have never said it syncs.....

[slate flume]

Well like

It doesn't matter where the client thinks the bullet went

I'll kill the client

[hearty shard]

Patch it or smth idk

[slate flume]

How

[hearty shard]

can you make it all sync

[slate flume]

[hearty shard]

Remove basegame shots and make it entirely server sided

If basegame would shoot then do your own raycast thing!!

[slate flume]

Does it really matter where the client thinks the bullet went

[hearty shard]

um

idk

[slate flume]

Because afaik shot trajectory, damage, bullet holes, and all that stuff is handled by the server anyways

The worst that happens is they like see a hitmarker when they shouldn't afaik

[hearty shard]

i mean

also lag lol

[static meteor]

Max ammo

    [HarmonyPatch(typeof(MagazineModule), nameof(MagazineModule.AmmoMax), MethodType.Getter)]
    internal static class MaxAmmoPatch
    {
        [HarmonyPrefix]
        public static bool Prefix(MagazineModule __instance, ref int __result)
        {
            if (!Utilities.TryGetSummonedCustomItem(__instance.Firearm.ItemSerial, out var customItem))
                return true;
                
            if (customItem.CustomItem.CustomItemType is CustomItemType.Weapon)
            {
                WeaponData weaponData = customItem.CustomItem.CustomData as WeaponData;
                __result = weaponData.MaxMagazineAmmo;
                __instance.ServerResyncData();
            }

                return false;
        }
    }

[hearty shard]

lag compensation is hard to do if you do server only ans dont adjust based on client responses

But idk if client needs to be correct

[slate flume]

I already have max ammo

Thank you mr baguette

What I care about is inaccuracy

[static meteor]

HitscanHitregModule::BaseBulletInaccuracy

[slate flume]

Lag on what?

[slate flume]

I don't wanna modify it for all weapons

Unless HitscanHitregModule is per weapon

[static meteor]

Thats not all

[hearty shard]

@slate flume

that

[slate flume]

What needs to be compensated for with lag

[slate flume]

Sucks that these patches don't even work for revolver

[slate flume]

@hearty shard

[slate flume]

I had to make 2 extra patches just to get revolver max ammo working

[static meteor]

Did you try this?

    // TODO: Test this.
    [HarmonyPatch(typeof(CylinderAmmoModule), nameof(CylinderAmmoModule.AmmoMax), MethodType.Getter)]
    internal static class RevolverCylinderPatch
    {
        [HarmonyPrefix]
        public static bool Prefix(CylinderAmmoModule __instance, ref int __result)
        {
            if (!Utilities.TryGetSummonedCustomItem(__instance.Firearm.ItemSerial, out var customItem))
                return true;
            if (customItem.CustomItem.CustomItemType is not CustomItemType.Weapon)
                return true;

            IWeaponData weaponData = customItem.CustomItem.CustomData as IWeaponData;
            __result = weaponData.MaxMagazineAmmo;
            __instance.ServerResync();
            return false;
        }
    }

[slate flume]

I have a working max ammo module

[hearty shard]

Its validated by server afaik

client says what it expects, server validates

its what most games do afaik

[hearty shard]

Reflection....

[slate flume]

My patch is sloppy

But it works

[hearty shard]

Also i dont think u need a server check when yk

That patch can only run on server

[slate flume]

Wait why did

I even

Do reflection for OnAmmoInserted

I forget my motivation for that

[hearty shard]

idk

if its event u can only call event from same class its created

But still

Yucky

[slate flume]

Oh that's why

Yeah

[slate flume]

So how would one access the hitreg module for a firearm

I should be clear about my goal

What I want is to increase the spread of a shotgun

[static meteor]

foreach (ModuleBase module in firearm.Base.Modules)
                        {
                            switch (module)
                            {
                                case HitscanHitregModuleBase hitscan when hitscanHitregModule == null:
                                    hitscanHitregModule = hitscan;
                                    break;
                            }
                        }

[slate flume]

Baller

Thank you @static meteor

[static meteor]

        internal HitscanHitregModuleBase hitscanHitregModule { get; set; }

[slate flume]

Question

Why switch-case

[static meteor]

copied it from exiled ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[slate flume]

Oh that's wild

[static meteor]

also theres more in it that i removed

[slate flume]

I'm just gonna

And work from there

Or actually

[slate flume]

WAIT WAIT WAIT

Do we no longer need FpcServerPositionDistributor patches?????

[slate flume]

Wait nvm we do

:(

I thought there was hope

[worthy rune]

what patches are you refering too

[slate flume]

Position cacheing

[worthy rune]

that was implemented aswell

[hearty shard]

guh

[worthy rune]

it was apart of the waypoint refactor

[slate flume]

Really?

[worthy rune]

yes

[slate flume]

Oh type shit

I could give you a smooch rn

[hearty shard]

Guh

[worthy rune]

fun fact, that was implemented before i told anyone about it

was curious how much of a performance impact it had so told cyn about it since he was interested about server tps

[slate flume]

That's fire

Riptide you're the 🐐

Okay wait

So I just updated LabAPI for my plugin and the server

So I could test stuff

I try to go on my server and I need to change it to the beta so I can get on

[hearty shard]

You cant join

[slate flume]

So I change to labapi-beta

[hearty shard]

There is no client beta

[slate flume]

Yeah

Fuck

[hearty shard]

Thats the old beta for labapi before 1.0

you gotta wait

[slate flume]

Yeah I found that out

[slate flume]

[signal steeple]

Using the new RoleSyncEvent stuff for spoofing roles and I saw the changelog said this:
... we recommend subscribing to FpcServerPositionDistributor.RoleSyncEvent ... returning null will make it follow base-game behaviour

The event itself returns a non nullable RoleTypeId, then creates a new nullable RoleTypeId? with that value, then checks if that value is null, which it never will be.

Func<ReferenceHub, ReferenceHub, RoleTypeId, RoleTypeId> roleSyncEvent = FpcServerPositionDistributor._roleSyncEvent;
RoleTypeId? roleTypeId2 = ((roleSyncEvent != null) ? new RoleTypeId?(roleSyncEvent(referenceHub, receiver, roleTypeId)) : null);
if (roleTypeId2 != null)
{
    roleTypeId = roleTypeId2.Value;
}

So then how do we return null in the subscribed event as instructed by the changelog?

[slate flume]

What

[signal steeple]

If there's something you're confused about or something I've made unclear, a question would be better than just saying "what"

[slate flume]

Yeah just one sec I'm playing 079 atm

The round started right as I was replying

[slate flume]

Oh

That was a really round-about way of saying you can't return null in the RoleSyncEvent

[signal steeple]

I wouldn't say it was a round-about way of saying that at all, I'm just providing enough detail and context

[slate flume]

Don't listen to the changelogs

The reason it checks if the roleSyncEvent is null is to see if it can run an action on it

[signal steeple]

Yea exactly, I'm pointing out the inconsistency in the change log

[slate flume]

Oh so you don't need help figuring out what to actually do

Got it

If you purely have a bug report add it to the LabAPI issues

[signal steeple]

I'm looking for clarification, either the change log is wrong or I'm misunderstanding something here

[slate flume]

The change log is wrong

It's telling you to return null

You can't return null

[signal steeple]

Thanks for the recap

[slate flume]

Np

Welcome to SCP: SL

They say it works one way but it doesn't

That's why there's like 100 open issues on the LabAPI github

No offense to anyone at NW I know they do their best I'm just pointing out the fact of the matter

Hi @worthy rune :)

[worthy rune]

a dedicated labapi event will be added as an alternative hopefully next update, reason it wasnt added this update was that code was a last second addition

[signal steeple]

Got it, thanks for the clarification

[upper vapor]

GameObject.AddComponent
And set the backing field for attachments

[slate flume]

:O

[upper vapor]

Why would you foreach-switch this

.OfType<T>().First()

[slate flume]

It's exiled code

[upper vapor]

[slate flume]

Wait so

Attachments only has getter for getting all subcomponents

So I just need to AddComponent?

[upper vapor]

Returning with delegates is a death wish

[upper vapor]

There's a backing field

[slate flume]

I'll be honest

I don't know exactly what you mean

Because I'm a noob

[upper vapor]

You've decompiled attachments

[slate flume]

Yepper

[upper vapor]

You can see what the getter does

[slate flume]

Yessir

OH

Wait

Nvm

I see

I forgot about _attachments

I'll just set _attachments to null and update the Attachments by calling it

😁

[upper vapor]

Why would...

Then you also need to update AllSubcomponents

You can just use a collection expression for _attachments

[slate flume]

😁

Maybe?

Idk I'll test if it even syncs tomorrow once I can run a server with the new update

[upper vapor]

i guess

also override OnAttachmentsApplied and enable it

[celest thorn]

Hmmm i have a question

pistol shotgun

[slate flume]

[upper vapor]

no neeed for that

SubcomponentBase has an OnAttachmentsApplied event

[slate flume]

Oh dope

I'll test if any of that worked tomorrow

[unique crane]

https://tenor.com/view/door-toucan-hello-chat-bird-stare-gif-27159024

[unique crane]

Make git issue

It surely is something I would like to do

but not sure how to approach it

Because final properties are combination of like 3 others

should I add another one to the mix?

Should I let you override one of them?

Should it override the final number?

[slate flume]

YEAH

Hype

Based david

[celest thorn]

hello how are you doing?

[unique crane]

eepy

[celest thorn]

so sad

[spare zodiac]

is there no way to get keycard information out of pickup?

[celest thorn]

yes

[spare zodiac]

that's fucked how am I supposed to get that information then for saving pickups?

[unique crane]

As of now, you will have to deserialize KeycardDetailSynchronizer.Database

[celest thorn]

yea

i was searching the class

david do you know if i can fake a player spinning like the player spins for everyone except himself

[unique crane]

Send the rotation message to specific players?

[celest thorn]

i mean i could send it to auth

[unique crane]

You as server send data about other players

so just send them fake data

[celest thorn]

i mean couldn't this create problems

[unique crane]

Depends what you want to do

[celest thorn]

Just make a player spin for everyone else

but he doesn't see it

[unique crane]

Yeah and then what happens

it shouldnt cause any problems tbh

just try it and see

[celest thorn]

ig i could try

[spare zodiac]

I have no clue how to deserialize it, it's in bytes. The ushort is serial?

[unique crane]

Key is serial number

[spare zodiac]

and the value is what needs to be deserialized

but have no clue how

[celest thorn]

    private static void ClientApplyDetails(ArraySegment<byte> payload, KeycardItem template, KeycardGfx target)
    {
        using (PayloadReader = NetworkReaderPool.Get(payload))
        {
            DetailBase[] details = template.Details;
            foreach (DetailBase detailBase in details)
            {
                try
                {
                    detailBase.ApplyDetail(target, template);
                }
                catch (Exception exception)
                {
                    string arg = string.Concat(detailBase.GetType(), '@', template.name);
                    Debug.LogError($"Error applying detail: '{arg}' Payload: {PayloadReader}");
                    Debug.LogException(exception);
                }
            }
        }
        target.OnAllDetailsApplied();
    }

This is how the client does it

[unique crane]

I would probably cache them in some struct during KeycardDetailSynchronizer.ServerProcessPickup(pickup)

Not entirely sure how does this all work

[celest thorn]

i know how because i spent alot of time

and then figured out

oh wait i can use serial

im dumb

(all of this for custom items)

[spare zodiac]

I don't have keycarditem or keycard gfx though

[celest thorn]

bruh

[spare zodiac]

that's apply detail though

[celest thorn]

bruh

brain moment

this is how the client deserialize it

just copy how it does it

and boom

you can have info

Crazy i know

[spare zodiac]

no I get what you mean I can use this to deserialize just spoke too quick

[celest thorn]

oh lol

don't worry

[spare zodiac]

the payload reader is it some dependency I must add? I don't understand why they didn't use var PayloadReader = X?

[celest thorn]

Nah its mirror

PayloadReader is a variable

[spare zodiac]

in what namespace is this located?

wait the client does it?

[celest thorn]

InventorySystem.Items.Keycards.InventorySystem.Items.Keycards.ClientApplyDetails

[celest thorn]

Yes but you can take inspiration

because you just read as david said from the database

in this same class

and then deserialize it like how the client does

[spare zodiac]

how did you get the client code of this?

[unique crane]

Its not stripped

[celest thorn]

its not stripped

[unique crane]

same for keycard details

[celest thorn]

so sad

[unique crane]

you can just look at what it does

[spare zodiac]

stripped? Like it was not removed from source

[unique crane]

Mhm

[celest thorn]

yes, when they compile server side, they have 2 version headless (server) and non headless client

and sometimes client code can be left

because its not critical

i don't think someone will ever exploit fucking keycards

(and i don't think there will be ever an exploit like that)

[spare zodiac]

I hope

[celest thorn]

wtf are they going to exploit

[spare zodiac]

for what does NW use the target and template inside the method though?

[unique crane]

there is nothing to exploit

[celest thorn]

keycard saying skibid toiler?

[unique crane]

you just receive data

[celest thorn]

^

[unique crane]

You dont want them? ok

[celest thorn]

you don't care about that

you know what

tell me what you need to find?

[spare zodiac]

the pickups information on keycard so I can delete it and recreate the exact replica

but like it's saved inside file and can be restored after restart

[celest thorn]

Save then the payload

to the file

and read it back with the network reader

[unique crane]

At that point just save what you create

you dont need to save the created payload afterwards

[celest thorn]

yea but idk depends

idk what he wants to do

like if he is creating it

[spare zodiac]

I'm

[unique crane]

@spare zodiac What exactly are you doing

[spare zodiac]

saving all items on map and then next like soft restart big restart no data left in the .dll want to recreate each item without loosing data of the items

I still have no clue where the DetailBase[] information got cretated

[random scaffold]

david moment

[celest thorn]

idk why is this so complicated its like 3 hours the same thing

[celest thorn]

.

do what this does

only into the server

you don't need to apply

just read

[unique crane]

Okay so

Save the byte array

Add it back to the database on start

As the database is for both items and pickups

[celest thorn]

But the problem is the Serial aren't the same

[unique crane]

Then force them to be the same

[celest thorn]

ig

[unique crane]

If he uses the same seed

there will be the same amount of items and such

(I think?)

[celest thorn]

same everything then it works

[spare zodiac]

what happens when I get existing keycard's serial and in the database load different bytes into the serial?

[celest thorn]

i think yes because being deterministic SL yea

midnights knows where stands are so i think yea

[unique crane]

If your using the same seed then this wont happen

Or you can just create the item/pickup

and then apply the data based on the new serial

Create item/pickup -> get the new serial -> set the database entry based on the new serial

[spare zodiac]

oh the database is readonly

[unique crane]

Property itself is readonly

you can still add /remove entries

that means you cannot do Database = new ()

you can, however, still do Database.Add(serial, payload)

[spare zodiac]

can I remove?

[unique crane]

ofc

[spare zodiac]

then I can remove the serial and load it with my data changing some keycard

or just rewrite it

[celest thorn]

yea

[spare zodiac]

KeycardDetailSynchronizer.Database[5] = [];

this is really nice though didn't know this can be done, thank you

[harsh thorn]

Seems that that was missed in implementation of the event itself
Easiest solution is to just return the RoleTypeId that the event passes to you if you do not wish to modify it

Or patch FpcServerPositionDistributor::GetVisibleRole as that controls what it wants to fakesync people as

[plain gazelle]

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[undone bough]

So, how CollectionId works?

[unique crane]

Multiple servers with same IP

collection id stays the same

if they have same SSS

no need to redo SSS on client on each server

[undone bough]

oh, got it, basically I put one number everywhere

[unique crane]

Mhm

Yea

[undone bough]

ty

[celest thorn]

i need to understand how it works

do i set a number on each SSS for each server that is the same or what?

[hearty shard]

each SSSS needs to have a collection id to save to

it does not matter if it is a duplicate

0-20

anything else will default to how it works rn (no saving across server)

[celest thorn]

Lets make an example

i have a dropdown

and i set it to 0

then i go to the other server and i set the same dropdown to 0

this will sync?

[undone bough]

if I set all the settings (buttons, dropdowns and etc) to one number, it will sync?

or each setting should have uniq collectionId

[celest thorn]

i don't understand that

how it works

[soft turtle]

What is that?

[south socket]

stuff like fog, screen stuff

[celest thorn]

Guys UPDATE IN AN HOUR

[south socket]

OH MY GAWD

[celest thorn]

ARE YOU ALL READY

TONIGHT NO SLEEP

UPDATE ONLY

AND BREAK THIS GAME

[south socket]

WHAT IS SLEEP

[south socket]

you can break whats already broken?

[celest thorn]

Obv

[south socket]

[celest thorn]

I want to break everything

[south socket]

want to break free from the ads?

[celest thorn]

i cannot say how i did that already

but something spicy helped me

[soft turtle]

Okkkkkk

[soft turtle]

I hate updates

[south socket]

why

[soft turtle]

Constantly have to update plugins 😭

[hearty shard]

"constantly" but then its every 2 months

[celest thorn]

this update is peak

idc

i love this update only love for nw

[hearty shard]

and usually thats small changes that u dont rly need to update plugin for

[restive turret]

would love to actually have a client build so can test actually

[celest thorn]

A HOUR

we have it

im going to update everything instantly

idc

[restive turret]

and how would i use the FpcServerPositionDistributor.SendRole

[hearty shard]

what for

[soft turtle]

Yes, but these updates come out exactly on the day when in another city, or in another country

[undone bough]

did you figure it out, or still no?

[pallid galleon]

Nah, there's no modded or community servers that help retain the games playerbase that'd be a waste of time

[celest thorn]

no

[undone bough]

😭

[celest thorn]

Hello

I mean it would be helpful for alot of servers

[pallid galleon]

yep

I wonder if there's stats that show how many players play on official servers versus unofficial servers

[celest thorn]

mine for example top 10 changes

[pallid galleon]

Learning to make plugins for this game has truly been an experience

[unique crane]

Tonight on Update Gear

-top gear intro music-

[celest thorn]

Tonight IS GOING TO BE ALL TESTING

[unique crane]

Cullable parent

I mean it works you just have to fix the scale

and that error message spam

[celest thorn]

rn im playing to pass the time, a gamemode that is a mix of valorant with guns and some movement, gun system of csgo and gambling, omnimovement from bo6 and some guns from bo3

[celest thorn]

that was fixed already

[unique crane]

You said that 50 times when we were testing it

[celest thorn]

it was fixed don't you remember

[unique crane]

No it kept spamming silly

[celest thorn]

AHHHH

im going to cry

[slate flume]

14.1.3 drop in less than an hour

[celest thorn]

btw

@unique crane for the size problem i think i need to set the size of the cullable to 1,1,1

and that should fix it

[unique crane]

Yes

[celest thorn]

or do the opposite

set the cullable to the size

and the prim to 1,1,1

btw when sl will have omnimovement

great addition to the game

[unique crane]

What

[celest thorn]

Omnimovement

[unique crane]

Ehhhh

whats that

[celest thorn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj4kWiWP1gs

[slate flume]

Oh it's a dumb buzz word

Gotcha

[celest thorn]

its max payne system copied

[unique crane]

Me when I can sprint backwards in PD2

XDD

[celest thorn]

AHAHAHAHHA

[unique crane]

(crazy concept)

Guys we are adding new movement system

We are calling it

Capymovement

Its new innovation

[slate flume]

Calling a good movement system "Omnimovement" and acting like it's the next big thing is absolutely an Activision thing

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/wzobs655.png

[slate flume]

"Once you experience Omni-Movement there's no going back"

[celest thorn]

crazy client side waypoints

[slate flume]

So question

What's the point of waypoints

[celest thorn]

lets see how much i can break the game

[celest thorn]

ALOT

ALOT

[unique crane]

You cant have client side only waypoints

you stupid

[celest thorn]

Idc what you say

i can

[unique crane]

Waypoints are server side too

[celest thorn]

i know ;(

[slate flume]

Explain

[celest thorn]

but i want to see if i can break the game

[unique crane]

Your gonna cause desync

100%

[celest thorn]

Elevators

[slate flume]

What about them?

[celest thorn]

Moving OOB

Doing all of the cool stuff

[unique crane]

You can now make smooth elevators using WaypointToy

[slate flume]

Oh dope

[unique crane]

Or rotating platforms

[celest thorn]

.

[slate flume]

That's baller

WAIT

I have a blackhole item

Can I use waypoints for it?

[unique crane]

what

[slate flume]

Like a black hole

[celest thorn]

no?

[slate flume]

Sucks people in

And items

[unique crane]

No thats not how it works

[celest thorn]

its not like that

[slate flume]

Fuck

I have no understanding for this

[hearty shard]

waypoints are used for uhhh

yk what relative positioning is right

[slate flume]

Yeah

[hearty shard]

waypoints hook you onto them and then you become relative to them

so when you move left and right you're moving left and right relative to the eg box

[slate flume]

Yeah

[celest thorn]

yea its for relative positioning

[slate flume]

So why not have a platform underneath a player

[celest thorn]

only problem of relative position

is one AND massive

[slate flume]

And move them

[celest thorn]

you cannot create like big asf

[hearty shard]

whatt

[celest thorn]

because of float percision the futher you go out the more bugged it becomes

[hearty shard]

well if you're moving relative to world time not on the box youll just get thrown off

[celest thorn]

The player doesn't spin with it or move at all

its just like you stand on it

without any type of physics applied to it

[unique crane]

(this system is used by elevators and was done literally for them)

with side effect of less network usage

and some downsides too yea..

[slate flume]

Huh?

[unique crane]

Putting player on a moving player doesnt make him move

with it

[slate flume]

I'm watching players spinning and moving with it rn

[unique crane]

Yes cause that has the waypoint toy

[celest thorn]

this is with the new toy

[slate flume]

Yes

[unique crane]

on it

[slate flume]

I'm saying why not use that

[unique crane]

but without it, it wouldnt work

[slate flume]

Yes

WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT BRO

[hearty shard]

thats an example of waypoints

being used

[slate flume]

I'm saying "Oh so I should use waypoints to sync players with like moving platforms to move them smoothly towards something"

[hearty shard]

which are used in that example

[slate flume]

And you're saying "Oh if you don't use waypoints it won't work"

I'M SAYING I WANT TO TRY USING WAYPOINTS WDYM 😭

[unique crane]

you started that talk about blackhole

[slate flume]

Yes

I have a black hole item

But players don't move smoothly towards it because it requires on server updates

So to sync better put them on a platform and move them towards it

And you're telling me that won't work?

[unique crane]

You can put them in air and set gravity towards it

[slate flume]

How far to they have to be off the ground to be "in the air"

[unique crane]

Idk

Like 0.1f?

maybe less

[slate flume]

Because I don't want it to be noticeable to them that they're off the ground

[unique crane]

There sphere collision check for it

[unique crane]

Yeah well no

that wont work then

[slate flume]

So why won't this work?

[unique crane]

It could

[slate flume]

Then why was I being told this 😭

I'm getting mixed messages bro

[celest thorn]

Gravity towards it????

[unique crane]

Zero was talking about platform without the waypoint toy

[celest thorn]

Oh by setting x,z

yea

[slate flume]

I was talking about platform with waypoints

[celest thorn]

im stupid

[unique crane]

You havent noticed that player.Gravity is Vector3?

well he wasnt

anyways

[celest thorn]

No im stupid

[unique crane]

it could work

Try it and see

[celest thorn]

Thats AMAZING

I will kiss riptide

for this update

[slate flume]

I'm gonna create little platforms for players and move them towards a black hole :)

[celest thorn]

because now i can sleep at night knowing that QA don't fall for spinners and complain that spinners aren't spinning the player

[slate flume]

So waypoints are just the servers way of lerping shit smoothly

[celest thorn]

no done by the client

all of that

[unique crane]

Smartest QA

[celest thorn]

its like the elevator

[slate flume]

I like it when the client handles shit

[celest thorn]

Most of the QA is like don't know anything technical

and they just talk

[hearty shard]

well its client + server

both client and server are getting the position relative to