plugins-dev-chat

[true cedar]

nope

wait

are you talking about v2 or v3

[barren pasture]

3

Sorry

[true cedar]

no

it updates on an interval tho

so as long as you provide an UpdateInterval

[barren pasture]

I'm not getting a hint with this

[true cedar]

oh you have to add it to the display lol

[barren pasture]

Bruh

[true cedar]

Display.Get(hub).Show(new Tag(), DE)

[barren pasture]

Works for my use case

[true cedar]

thumbs up emoji

[barren pasture]

tbh my CustomHintService probably needs more fixing than RueI v3

[celest thorn]

Ruei v3 was more stable

lol

btw HIII

[late trellis]

Okay, I have a problem.
I have seen in other plugins from #1336031121699377213 , functions that should always be executed like endless loop, without any handlers, can be called in Enable, in the main plugin file.
But, neither my function nor my logs are being called. I'm work on LapAPI only, without Exiled. How do I get the function to be called all the time?

[celest thorn]

can you show full class?

[late trellis]

using GasChamber.Service;
using LabApi.Events.CustomHandlers;
using LabApi.Features.Console;
using LabApi.Loader.Features.Plugins;
using System;

namespace GasChamber
{
    public class PluginMain : Plugin<Config>
    {
        public override string Name => "Gas";

        public override string Description => "yup";

        public override string Author => "Meisner";

        public override Version Version => new Version(1, 0, 0);

        public override Version RequiredApiVersion => new Version();

        public static PluginMain Configuration { get; set; } = null;

        public Handlers Startup { get; set; }

        public override void Enable()
        {
            Configuration = this;
            Startup = new Handlers();

            GasService.Auto();
            Logger.Warn("Before");
            CustomHandlersManager.RegisterEventsHandler(Startup);
            Logger.Warn("After");
        }

        public override void Disable()
        {
            Configuration = null;
            CustomHandlersManager.UnregisterEventsHandler(Startup);
        }
    }
}

[celest thorn]

        public static PluginMain Configuration { get; set; } = null;

You can remove this you can use Config

but i don't see any problems

Oh wait

its the Instance

that one

ok nvm

Check if there are any error in LA or in the console

because it could be that GasService.Auto(); is throwing error

[late trellis]

I tried to comment out all the config declarations, but in any case, there are no errors in the console

[celest thorn]

does even the plugin boot?

where are you putting the plugin?

[late trellis]

If I call GasService.Auto() in to Hadlers, all fine

[late trellis]

Yea, plugin is working, on Handlers

[celest thorn]

So the plugin stops before
Logger.Warn("Before");

if im understading

but GasService.Auto(); has no exception

is it like blocking the console?

[late trellis]

In my console I see output, from the OnServerRoundStarted handler, where the Logger output is running.
However, everything in Enable is dead.

[celest thorn]

Im confused

Like i don't see any issues

if there aren't any issues anywhere

[late trellis]

🤔
Ok, tried to find solution problem in #1336031121699377213

Thanks for time

[celest thorn]

no problem

[random scaffold]

how i can do http get / post from the plugin? (to it didnt stop the thread)

[unique crane]

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.1/Documentation/ScriptReference/Networking.UnityWebRequest.html

[celest thorn]

I have a stupid question i need to unpatch a method from our lovely c*dm*d (the censorship just for axwabo)

[restive turret]

I immediately replaced with othe wovels and was confused

[celest thorn]

lol

I need to unpatch this method of cedmod how can i do it?

like i don't want to add cedmod as a dependency

[restive turret]

Just check for losded assembly

I did it with exiledfixer

[celest thorn]

if(PluginLoader.Plugins.Any(x => x.Key.Name.ToLower() == "cedmod"))

Yea but now?

[restive turret]

https://github.com/KadavasKingdom/ExiledFixer/blob/main/Main.cs

[celest thorn]

I do not understand anything

[restive turret]

Bruh

[celest thorn]

like you are just patching them

[restive turret]

When you load an assembly it runs that event

[celest thorn]

Ok i know

that

[restive turret]

I patch after exiled being loaded

[celest thorn]

but the problem is i don't want to unpatch entirely cedmod

just one patch

[restive turret]

I didn't unpatch all exiled either

I only have 1 patch

[celest thorn]

Im confused

OH

i do understand now

[restive turret]

Technically not 1 its now like 5

[celest thorn]

yea i now see

[restive turret]

You can now do the same for cedmod

[celest thorn]

I mean i need to add cedmod as a dependency

so sad

[restive turret]

Well to build

[celest thorn]

i know

[restive turret]

But after building you don't really need it

For example I have this on my server whihc doesn't do anything since i dont have exiled but I put it into server which has exiled

[celest thorn]

    private void CedModDestructor69(object sender, AssemblyLoadEventArgs args)
    {
        if (!args.LoadedAssembly.FullName.Contains("CedMod"))
            return;
        
        Main.Harmony?.PatchCategory("cedmod");
        Logger.Info("Cedmod Destroyed :3");
    }

Something like this should work

lol

[restive turret]

I guess

Should be

Why is harmony null there

[celest thorn]

It could be when unloading

[restive turret]

Also change the priority to he higher than ced

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/g8qene2u.png

obv mine is Highest

so

[restive turret]

👍

[celest thorn]

?

oh

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/x13m3dun.png

[restive turret]

I guess

[celest thorn]

adios cedmod

i fucking hate when its a prefix

some of my patches are prefix but not destructive as cedmod

You could argue yes you can disable it in the config but i want to do it dynamically

[celest thorn]

Btw it doesn't work

cedmod is not detected

It seems labapi is doing some magic

DMDASM.E420685B.Cecil, Version=0.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null

I see this spammed

[restive turret]

ah might be bc cedmod packs itself<

[celest thorn]

No every plugins is doing it

even plugin non related to cedmod

[restive turret]

how do you subscibe to it?
what do you printM

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/mbcfb5f6.png

    private void CedModDestructor69(object sender, AssemblyLoadEventArgs args)
    {
        Logger.Info(args.LoadedAssembly.FullName);
        
        if (!args.LoadedAssembly.FullName.Contains("CedMod"))
            return;
        
        Main.Harmony?.PatchCategory("cedmod");
        Logger.Info("Cedmod Destroyed :3");
    }

this is in one of the module

[restive turret]

lol

idk then works on my machine

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/works-on-my-machine-ryan-gosling-works-on-my-gif-24523830

<3

OH WAIT

[restive turret]

?

[celest thorn]

labapi

loads the plugin and then enables them

Yep

        if (PluginLoader.Plugins.Any(x => x.Key.Name.ToLower() == "cedmod"))
        {
            Logger.Info("Cedmod Detected");
        }

[upper vapor]

Check how sloc unpatches MER, should be similar

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

why would someone have sloc and Mer?

[upper vapor]

[upper vapor]

https://github.com/Axwabo/slocLoader/issues/7

[celest thorn]

Instead for me is Cedmod + CoolPlugin = nono

[upper vapor]

Yeah

[celest thorn]

Does sloc work with Meow???

(Most likely yes)

[upper vapor]

Probably, at least your client-side objects won't be affected

[worn gull]

What does IsLocked is in Interactable toy

[celest thorn]

You cannot interact with it

[celest thorn]

Most likely neither server side

[worn gull]

Ahhh

okay thanks

[celest thorn]

But hey that was bombed

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

Like it still exist

Just not really used

Because client offer pretty much more control

But both of them are really optimized

So you have same performance

[random scaffold]

show example

[unique crane]

Then search it up in the Unity docs

There are some

[random scaffold]

there hard

why

[unique crane]

If you consider this (https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.1/Documentation/ScriptReference/Networking.UnityWebRequest.Get.html) hard then I dont know what to tell ya

[random scaffold]

in coroutine

[unique crane]

Yeah it uses coroutines

instead of async

[random scaffold]

david moment

[unique crane]

???

This is standard Unity way to use webrequest

[upper vapor]

Logic_gun trying to use logic

[celest thorn]

He probably needs to shoot the gun of logic

[icy knoll]

standard unity way to do anything pretty much lol

if smth takes time, then coroutine

[unique crane]

Yea

[celest thorn]

Hiii

[tulip kiln]

I put an infinite loop in a coroutine because I forgot they weren't threads

I was a bit surprised when the server just hang up

[icy knoll]

and this is why we shouldn’t use infinite coroutines

[celest thorn]

I mean i use them not alot

But they have stuff

And hiiiii

[icy knoll]

one thing i find weird is that loads of plugin devs seem to hate making components 😭

[icy knoll]

heyo

[celest thorn]

I love making components

[celest thorn]

How are you doing???

:3

[tulip kiln]

I forget that I'm inside Unity and it's already too late when I realize

[icy knoll]

hot… i also cut my finger…

[tulip kiln]

I only have like one component in my plugin

[celest thorn]

???

You cut your finger?

Apply something to it

Before it gets infected

And yes its hot asf

[icy knoll]

it’s fine if ur doing one time things but if ur doing

while (true) { yield return Timing.WaitForOneFrame; }

im like bruh

[tulip kiln]

At this point I just subscribe to the Update method

What's the point of this

[celest thorn]

Explodes

[icy knoll]

make a component 😭

[tulip kiln]

Nah it can't have its lifetime attached to an object

[celest thorn]

Sadly

[tulip kiln]

I need it

[celest thorn]

i would like to have a profiler

so i can see performance and stuff

it would be fantastic

Someone knows how can i get the collider the player is interacting when opening a door?

[upper vapor]

Patch the raycast

[celest thorn]

so sad

i need to patch

[upper vapor]

Wait

Check InterCoordinator

Or whatever

[celest thorn]

What?

this.IsAllowed = true;
this.Player = Player.Get(player);
this.Door = Door.Get(door);
this.CanOpen = canOpen;

the even has only this

[upper vapor]

I'm not sure if the client sends the jnteracted door or the collider, probably the former

[celest thorn]

yes

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/houjcz7a.png

[upper vapor]

Well crap

Print the collider id

Maybe it has different id for a different knob

Might be th3 case for generators only

[celest thorn]

yes it is

i need to get that

[tulip kiln]

InteractionCoordinator::OnClientInteracted

InteractableCollider.TryGetCollider

[celest thorn]

What is that

[tulip kiln]

an event that doesn't even fire

my bad

[celest thorn]

lol

[upper vapor]

OnClientInteracted

[celest thorn]

like its so sad i need to patch

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

i think i will do a patch

that checks everything

[tulip kiln]

I thought it just meant that a server saw a client interact 😭

[celest thorn]

PlayerEvents.OnInteractedDoor

before this

or else

i can do

a prefix

and inside a dictionary

put the collider and referencehub

and then remove

🧠

[unique crane]

The only component I ever did was for impact grenade

[celest thorn]

crazy

[unique crane]

Like

[celest thorn]

so sad i need to patch

[unique crane]

normal objects do enough

Also zero your gonna love the next update for your tower thingy

:3

[celest thorn]

FR?

[unique crane]

source: trust me

[celest thorn]

its not mine but

made by maro

lol

[unique crane]

oh wait

[celest thorn]

i contributed nothing to it

[unique crane]

whatever

gg

wrong person

[celest thorn]

(like i did only the plugins)

and the hub

[unique crane]

Well then you did quite a lot?

[celest thorn]

for me it wasn't much

i did far worse thing

[unique crane]

percent wise

[celest thorn]

like 70%

[unique crane]

yea

thats more than half XD

[celest thorn]

for me its nothing

i work on projects and stuff because i like that

and i don't wanna get paid anything

[upper vapor]

Your payment is time passing

[celest thorn]

but im scared to now

[celest thorn]

My payment is just appreciation

[celest thorn]

btw im scared

it could be new toy

or the toys that huber showed

idk

[restive turret]

but when that

i mean thanks for teasing but

[celest thorn]

0.000000001$ for the info

(im joking)

I found out

that doors

door itself is 0

the thingy button is 10

why

10

[unique crane]

What

what is 0

[celest thorn]

collider

it CHANGES FOR EACH DOOR

im gonna cry

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/nlsnpcky.png

what?

[slate flume]

How can I get the door that a raycast collides with

[slow delta]

Hello, is it possible to have a role with different colored letters? If it cannot be done naturally, can it be done using plugins? Thank you

owner_badge: '<color=#5bc0eb><b>C</b></color><color=#f4d35e><b>R</b></color><color=#f5f5f5><b>E</b></color><color=#5bc0eb><b>A</b></color><color=#f4d35e><b>D</b></color><color=#f5f5f5><b>O</b></color><color=#5bc0eb><b>R</b></color>'
owner_color: blue
owner_cover: true
owner_hidden: false
owner_kick_power: 255
owner_required_kick_power: 255
❤️

[upper vapor]

GetComponentInParent

[upper vapor]

Badges cannot have tags in them

You can make it change colors with a plugin but you can't color different letters

[slow delta]

Note that owner_color does not accept color codes. Is this true, or have I simply written it incorrectly?

Does it only accept

red, green, blue, cyan, silver, gold, purple, pink, and yellow?

[slow delta]

Okay, thank you very much, bro. Would custom roles be an option?

the Plugin?

[upper vapor]

Check RainbowTags

[slow delta]

OO

YEAA

okey bro

[upper vapor]

The SL wiki has the list of the available colors if you can't find it in the plugin's readme

[slow delta]

Thank you very much, you're very kind.

[upper vapor]

Np

[slow delta]

I can't find the section on the scp sl wiki, could you please send it to me?

[carmine prawn]

https://techwiki.scpslgame.com/books/server-guides/page/3-remote-admin-config-setup#bkmrk-below-are-all-the-av

here

[slow delta]

Lol

the real support

tahnsk

thanks

[carmine prawn]

[slow delta]

So, it's not possible to assign a label color only to these, right? I'm asking to confirm and put my mind at ease.

[upper vapor]

Why is it in the tech support wiki 😭

[upper vapor]

You can use the ones that are used by server groups

[slow delta]

Okay, just these?

Sorry for the inconvenience.

[upper vapor]

Yeah

[slow delta]

Okey

Thank you, ¡have a nice day everyone!

[carmine prawn]

🤓 ☝Misc.PlayerInfoColorTypes

[slow delta]

I'm new to all this server and programming stuff, so I'll probably ask some obvious questions. Sorry about that, I don't know anything and I'm not very familiar with how to use some things on Discord or how to ask questions.

[upper vapor]

Huh

[upper vapor]

It's fine

[plain gazelle]

Ive heard about fake role syncing before, how does it work?

[upper vapor]

You lie to the client

[restive turret]

Basically

You lie that this role is an ntf

[hearty shard]

send a role sync message that contains the fake details

or look at exiled

[plain gazelle]

[mild ice]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-to-spread-misinformation-all-over-the-internet-gif-26525511

[unique crane]

Can you ban eve? Thank you

[hearty shard]

ur a bully

[mild ice]

I've been waiting for you to ask

[hearty shard]

scary lucy...

[true cedar]

+1

[unique crane]

I love abusing local fauna and flora

[true cedar]

THATS NOT SCP!!!!

explodes

[unique crane]

It is

my conveyor belts go through solid ground and other buildings

[slate flume]

Baller

[true cedar]

chat

i need a new name for something

i have a Display class which u use to send hints to players in ruei

but the problem is that unity has a Display class too so that creates an ambiguous reference

and i dont want that

[unique crane]

Well then rename it...

[hearty shard]

yeah but YOU

made a HintDisplay

in SL

and its BAD

[unique crane]

Or just tell people to use alias

[hearty shard]

yuck

[unique crane]

I did not

[hearty shard]

i know

but i blame you

ur nw

you couldve changed it

[true cedar]

TO WHAT

THATS THE QUESTIOn

ElementDisplay is too long

[unique crane]

hintdisplay

[true cedar]

NO.

[unique crane]

Hmmm

RuelDisplay

[hearty shard]

david when do you make ruei basegame

[true cedar]

its RueI

not Ruel

NOBODY GETS THE PUN

but i was thinking of naming it ruedisplay

[hearty shard]

UIDisplay

[true cedar]

ni

no

thats dumb

[hearty shard]

damn...

[true cedar]

i might have to go with ruedisplay

but that sounds ugly

[icy knoll]

why would there be an ambiguous reference when they aren’t even in the same namespace tho?

[hearty shard]

using unity

using ruei

uh oh ambigious!!!

you need to using Display = Ruei.Display;

[icy knoll]

rider does that for you lol

but i get it

[hearty shard]

and yet its still ambious unless you do that

i know that IDEs tend to just let you pick and itll auto do it

but

[true cedar]

i dont wanna make it confusing

[random scaffold]

typical nw moment

[little zenith]

com-18 powered by 25 cents

[random scaffold]

waaaa

[teal junco]

do you own an fsp as spectator

[cyan crown]

😂

[celest thorn]

how did you even manage to break it that much

[static osprey]

name it Display2

[slate flume]

Give yourself an FSP as a spectator and force equip

Then spectate someone with an FSP

[teal junco]

interesting how that wasnt some peoples immediate thought

[restive turret]

Skill fucking issue

[true cedar]

ur all useless

[slate flume]

If you don't like Display2 try Display3

Or just

PlayerDisplay

[true cedar]

too long

[slate flume]

Womp womp

PlayerHints

HintDisplay is taken right?

DisplayHints

HintsDisplay

Literally any of those last 4

Fuck your constraints suck it up

[true cedar]

my thing doesn't call them hints

they're elemnets

[plain gazelle]

Hm, i tried to take a look at Exiled but i am really not good at going through decompiled code or whatever, so im stumped quite fast

Is there something like SyncedScaleMessages for Roles?

[hearty shard]

Uhh

You dont gotta decompile for exiled

Theres repo

[plain gazelle]

oooo that makes sense
-# now to learn how to browse through github repos for lines of code...

[hearty shard]

https://github.com/ExMod-Team/EXILED/blob/master/EXILED%2FExiled.API%2FExtensions%2FMirrorExtensions.cs#L281

Probably easier ways of it

Idk!

[plain gazelle]

Thank you ^^

From the looks of it, it prevents players to be fake synced as a dead role? hm

[slate flume]

So just call the class Elements
Hints would also work because you're using the in-game hint system

[hearty shard]

well

[slate flume]

That's just to prevent bugs and glitches

Afaik

[hearty shard]

if u receive a network message about a dead player doing smth they shouldnt

[hearty shard]

Dunno

[true cedar]

confusing as hell

[hearty shard]

ask exiled lol

[slate flume]

Why

You have these weird arbitrary requirements for what your class name should be

PlayerDisplay being too long is crazy

No clue why Elements as a class name is confusing

Not calling it hints even though it uses the hint system is a choice you can make ig

But that cuts a majority of your options for like 0 reason

If you're really insistent about these things you can do like SLDisplay

Or DisplaySL

Or Screen

Or like Visuals idk

[true cedar]

im just gonna with RueDisplay

[slate flume]

Go for it

[true cedar]

Elements is confusing because i already have an Element class

[slate flume]

Oh

Well then that makes sense

[true cedar]

and it doesn't make it clear that it's used to show stuff to the player

[slate flume]

At the end of the day it's your code that you're writing

Whatever makes you happy is whatever you should go with

Because it's not gonna matter to a single other living soul on the planet

If RueDisplay is what you wanna do then do it

I mean I have handler classes called shit like SodaPersonnelHandler because it's descriptive on its purpose and length doesn't matter that much

[plain gazelle]

Hm, makes sense, but i was kinda planning on doing just that
Telling a client that another person is Spectator/Not alive role, even if they arent

Any ideas?

[hearty shard]

What for

Making them invisible?

Well check cedmod they do smth on it

[plain gazelle]

Invisible for all but one player
Including voice chat only with that one player, etc

[hearty shard]

Oh

You can fake their position

same thing 939 does

[plain gazelle]

939? o.O

[hearty shard]

The scp

[plain gazelle]

How does it fake positio- oh the voice placing thing?

[hearty shard]

Yea

Makes u invisible

[plain gazelle]

But that sounds like an interesting solution. Where can i get started on this?
Again im only really familiar with SyncedScaleMessages for now x3

[hearty shard]

[HarmonyPatch(typeof(FpcServerPositionDistributor), nameof(FpcServerPositionDistributor.WriteAll))]

[plain gazelle]

uh

bless you

[worthy rune]

wait why a patch?

[hearty shard]

Is there event in there

am i going crazy

[worthy rune]

ValidatedVisibility

[hearty shard]

Validating?

[worthy rune]

no Validated

[hearty shard]

I thought that was 939 specific ngl

[hearty shard]

guh

can u show it

[worthy rune]

it happens after validation

[plain gazelle]

oh dear northwood™ staff please bless me with your knowledge on how i could go about making one player basically non-existant to everyone but one player

[worthy rune]

in the validated visibility event set ev.IsVisible to false for everyone except the one player

[plain gazelle]

Can i call that thing myself? Like how could i change the visibility of a player during a round?

[worthy rune]

also considering how much you talk in here and how much the validated visibility event gets talked about im confused on how you dont know about it

[hearty shard]

Is it?

Maybe im dement

[worthy rune]

just sub to the event, its called for every player combo every frame

[plain gazelle]

:O

[worthy rune]

troo

[hearty shard]

Omfg

Its cuz i use the 939 specific event

😭

explains it

[untold raft]

How can i send fake destroy message for all?

patch probably

[hearty shard]

ObjectDestroyMessage

With a net id of the object ur destroying

[plain gazelle]

This feels too easy to work

[worthy rune]

i would not override it to true, as that would break base game effects that have it false by default

[hearty shard]

ev.IsVisible = ...Contains

oh yea

[plain gazelle]

ohhh thank you

[worthy rune]

e.g. hat effect

[plain gazelle]

two lines off, even smaller code

lol

[hearty shard]

Tbf if someone is adding ghosts i have a feeling theyre not rly intending them to rly play the game normally

Idk!

[worthy rune]

fair

[plain gazelle]

Feature for a roleplay server ^^

[slate flume]

Wait why are you doing this?

[plain gazelle]

Partially for moderation, to only talk to someone OOC without others being able to perceive staff
And partially for Schizo storylines of literally having a real, imaginary friend i guess

[plain gazelle]

btw does being invisible using this method also prevent outbound voicechat from the invisible person?

[worthy rune]

yeah

[plain gazelle]

neat

[slate flume]

Oh cool

Never even thought about that

me stealing your idea

[plain gazelle]

x3c

Not my idea to begin with

[teal junco]

you can still technically compress that code. idk if its even worth it but it makes me feel smart to use these
e.IsVisible = !...Contains ? false : e.IsVisible

[ionic prawn]

is it possible to have your own print color in the server console?

[static meteor]

Yes

[ionic prawn]

how can i do it?

[static meteor]

Logger.Raw($"TEXT", ConsoleColor);

[ionic prawn]

ty

[ionic prawn]

how do i add icons on the screen with HintServiceMeow?

[random scaffold]

visual bug only

it overwatch mode

[random scaffold]

force item

[celest thorn]

how tf sl is coded

[celest thorn]

hello chat

[unique crane]

https://tenor.com/view/door-toucan-hello-chat-bird-stare-gif-27159024

[upbeat coyote]

Hi

[upper vapor]

HintVisual

-# wpf moment

thatguy had a point

HintScreen

[upper vapor]

https://github.com/Axwabo/CommandSystem/blob/main/Axwabo.CommandSystem/PropertyManager/Resolvers/IGenericRemoteAdminOptionInstanceBasedPermissionResolver.cs

[icy knoll]

java esque class name

[restive turret]

Real

I would rename it to

IBob

[upper vapor]

NetworkServer.UnSpawn

[restive turret]

Thats not faie

[upper vapor]

when e.IsVisible && thing.Contains

[upper vapor]

IJani

[upper vapor]

Parameter­Collection­Configuration­Error­Facade­Connection­Mapper­Importer­Wrapper­Parameter­Mapping­Service­Method­Identifier­Callback­Info­Error­Mapping­Authentication­Thread­Annotation­Template­Annotation­Tests­Getter­Clone­Principal­Utils­Comparator

[upper vapor]

it happens when an item in your inventory (yes, spec inv) is force equipped an item while you're spectating

[keen berry]

I once remember making a harmony patch so bad it froze the server and made the tps 300/60

Dunno what it was exactly patching but ik it was cola related

[unique crane]

Shortest .net class name

[tepid sluice]

Why i cant set specialweapon limit to 8

[celest thorn]

no

[plain gazelle]

Is it possible to prevent the spawning of a ragdoll for certain players but some specific players can still see it?

[unique crane]

Send the spawn message to only specific players

[plain gazelle]

[celest thorn]

im wondering something crazy

can you make conveyor belts

but where the player can move on top of them?

[upper vapor]

should be pretty simple

[celest thorn]

i mean on sl

but the player can move

[upper vapor]

yea

[celest thorn]

because i don't think you can do it

[upper vapor]

until we get player parenting, you won't be able to move the player while they are able to move on their end

alternative: position delta message

-# probably never happening

[celest thorn]

crazy

[plain gazelle]

whereeee would such a spawn message be? .w.
I only found the playerevent for spawning ragdolls where i would assume i could disallow it, but im not sure how i could then selectively spawn the same/a new ragdoll for select players

oo what are those

[unique crane]

Ragdoll classes

You need to use Mirror's spawn message

As ragdolls are spawned via NetworkServer.Spawn

[plain gazelle]

So i would need to make my own RagdollManager.ServerCreateRagdoll since that has the NetworkServer.Spawn method?

trying this rn. currently searching for a client-only spawning equivalent of networkserver.spawn

[worthy rune]

you can always make an issue about it on the github, i dont see why it shouldnt exist

[upper vapor]

trueing

[celest thorn]

thats true

[upper vapor]

yeah you can do that

just send a SpawnMessage to select clients

[celest thorn]

SpawnMessage

[plain gazelle]

no clue what a "SpawnMessage" even is x.x

[hearty shard]

HCZ_EZ_Checkpoint Part(Clone) | HczCheckpointToEntranceZone | HeavyContainment | Straight

HCZ_ChkpA(Clone) | HczCheckpointA | HeavyContainment | Endroom
HCZ_ChkpB(Clone) | HczCheckpointB | HeavyContainment | Endroom

What actually is the difference between these rooms?

well more specific, which parts of the checkpoints do they each refer to

HCZ_ChkpA the check point, but then HCZ_EZ_Checkpoint Part is from the big gate to the first entrance door?

or what

[plain gazelle]

HczCheckpointToEntranceZone is this room i think

Between the Gate and first EZ door

[upper vapor]

HCZ_EZ_Checkpoint Part is the heavy part up until the big gate after the checkpoint
EZ_HCZ_Checkpoint Part is the entrance part up to the big gate
HCZ_ChkpA & B are the elevators

[hearty shard]

elevators???

[plain gazelle]

to lcz

[upper vapor]

yea

[hearty shard]

Oh

oh

i thought that when you went down the elevator

you were in lighn

wait

[upper vapor]

you go up to LCZ from HCZ

[hearty shard]

did they really name the heavy elevator room HCZ_ChkpA

[upper vapor]

yes

[unique crane]

yes

[hearty shard]

😭

[unique crane]

And there is also Hcz_ChkpB

[hearty shard]

yes

[alpine wadi]

hi guys, is it possible to run a remote admin command through labapi?

[hearty shard]

yea but why ?

[alpine wadi]

cause i did a funny and want to make a workaround my problem rather than solving it

[upper vapor]

Server.RunCommand

[alpine wadi]

thanks chief

[upper vapor]

np

[plain gazelle]

copy pasted the ServerCreateRagdoll method but yeah no clue about how to only tell select clients about the object, or whatever "SpawnMessage" is qwq

Wish i could just search up solutions here but also seems im the first to ask questions about it or sth

[upper vapor]

the ragdoll is already created when you call instantiate

[plain gazelle]

heck

[upper vapor]

look into how networkserver.spawn works, create the spawn message yourself and send it to players

p.Connection.Send

[alpine wadi]

well it runs in the console not the remoteadmin thing

[hearty shard]

put a /

for RA

[upper vapor]

ye

[alpine wadi]

omg thx

[hearty shard]

we love this

[upper vapor]

are you calling file.create and not disposing the handle

[hearty shard]

its meant to be called once and then you use the file and then you kill the server

[upper vapor]

what

[hearty shard]

what

[upper vapor]

you get a stream from File.Create

you should dispose that

otherwise you lock the file until the server stops

[hearty shard]

i dont actually

[upper vapor]

??

[hearty shard]

this works fine

[upper vapor]

dam

[hearty shard]

i mean yeah i fixed the dispose now but

it worked

[upper vapor]

why do you even create the file in the first place

[hearty shard]

pretty sure it needs to exist

[upper vapor]

if you call WriteAllLines

no

[hearty shard]

oh well

didnt really matter

when i just needed testing

[plain gazelle]

cant find any mention of spawn message anywhere, nor do i see any correlation between networkserver.spawn and possible ways to do it individually

[upper vapor]

right

you can actually use

Networkerver.SendSpawnMessage

[hearty shard]

you need to publicize mirror

[upper vapor]

then

ShowForConnection

[hearty shard]

but identity is what ur sending
and conn is who ur sending to

[hearty shard]

same attribute

internal

[upper vapor]

though it's a bit more performant if you create the payload once and send it to each client

[upper vapor]

be ne szarjak

[hearty shard]

just publicize

rly not that hard

[plain gazelle]

so just this ?w?

me no understand

too many big words

[hearty shard]

yeah

[upper vapor]

no need for .ToList when using foreach

[icy knoll]

!(result is …)

[plain gazelle]

i just trimmed it, in long it is
Player.ReadyList.Except(mediums).Union([ghost]).ToList()
for my use case .w.

[plain gazelle]

THIS IS YOUR DEVELOPERS CODE !!!!

[icy knoll]

probably decompiler then

[plain gazelle]

xD

[upper vapor]

lmfao

[plain gazelle]

yes

silly decompiler

[hearty shard]

well

actually

[upper vapor]

i was gonna blame vs but JB does this too

[plain gazelle]

ohhh that also explains the (!(bla == null)) ive been seeing x.x

[hearty shard]

sl is from before this was a thing

apparently

[hearty shard]

decompiler but also nw did make the game before some stuff became easier like that

afaik

[plain gazelle]

a oki

[hearty shard]

heres a commit where i change david using (!(x is something))

[upper vapor]

operator precedence

[plain gazelle]

when i started developing for my community i got told/taught to not use "is" and "is not" as they dont work, like for null checks or sth
Is it still like that? Was it ever like that?

[upper vapor]

that is a fat lie to force you to conform to their coding standards

is null doesn't work for unity objects

[hearty shard]

thats a unity specific thing

yeah

[plain gazelle]

ahhhh that makes sense alright

[hearty shard]

== null for unity objects

[upper vapor]

same for null-coalescing and null conditionals ??= and ?.

[upper vapor]

or if (o)

[hearty shard]

or that yea

[plain gazelle]

i just learnt of those recently! they also dont work for MonoBehaviours? (or what else is meant with "unity objects"?)

[hearty shard]

yes

[plain gazelle]

damn

[upper vapor]

yeah, gameobject, monobehaviour etc

[hearty shard]

yeah

[upper vapor]

anything deriving from UnityEngine.Object

[hearty shard]

ya

[upper vapor]

can this stupid freaking app work

finally

[hearty shard]

kills u

[upper vapor]

[plain gazelle]

anyway, straight onto the next topic
Can i stop bullet impacts being synced

:3

oooo

i suppose thats where i can cancel it, but how could i spawn them in manually for specific clients

[hearty shard]

ngl i think they removed the easy message for it

[plain gazelle]

pain

bad nw devs

hmm maybe someone tell specific clients to Decal.OnVisibilityChanged(false) ?

[hearty shard]

decals are client sided

server just tells them where to place them

and ofc can now (since 14.1) clear them

[upper vapor]

um

[hearty shard]

u issue

ImpactEffectsModule.ServerSendImpactDecal

[upper vapor]

i blame it on nuget

[hearty shard]

well yeah

[upper vapor]

wtf am i looking at

[hearty shard]

guh

where

[icy knoll]

decompiler shit again or just wtf code 😭

[upper vapor]

this was in a blog i read

or post

or whatever

"if false is false"

ahh

can discord stop FREEZING when i wanna type a "

[plain gazelle]

"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

[plain gazelle]

does not work
i call it like this, but it throws a NRE for my ServerCreateRagdoll, because, i think, Handler is null

oh, all of those values are 0/null

[random scaffold]

how i can level up tps with 20+ players?

now around 40

[plain gazelle]

So this is my code for trying to spawn in ragdolls for only select players.
It works with preventing the default ragdoll from spawning, and the foreach executes fine with a seemingly fine basicRagdoll.

But they dont appear for players.
Any thoughts? :(

[random scaffold]

just use Ragdoll.Create

;\

[plain gazelle]

That doesnt even exist

[random scaffold]

well

[random scaffold]

[plain gazelle]

??

I know the Ragdoll clas exists

[plain gazelle]

@upper vapor Do you know any more information? Im kinda stuck and im tempted to ping david too qwq

[plain gazelle]

@unique crane maybe you know something about why no physical ragdolls spawn? .w.

[upper vapor]

i think you need to call the NetworkIdentity's OnStartServer method

[plain gazelle]

huh o.O

[upper vapor]

the netIdentity of the ragdoll

nvm

[plain gazelle]

[upper vapor]

ah

invoke the ragdoll's start method..?

wait

i remember there was an issue with the uh

labapi event

you gotta supply null to the RagdollData constructor

or just don't set it

new RagdollData(hub, handler, position, rotation, null)

idk why it's nullable and has the default parameter as 0

lovely

[plain gazelle]

Ah so switch out my 0 to a null, i wil ltry

Ohh with me setting it as 0 it would make all ragdolls i create have the serial 0, i see

yeah why is it default 0 xD

No ragdoll and no error ,_,

[upper vapor]

LA logs mayeb?

[unique crane]

Okay how about this solution:

Spawn it for everyone

send destroy message to selected players who shouldnt see it

[plain gazelle]

[2025-07-27 17:44:24.394 +00:00] [STDOUT] OnSerialize failed for: object=AutoRagdoll(Clone)(Clone) component=PlayerRoles.Ragdolls.AutoHumanRagdoll sceneId=0
[2025-07-27 17:44:24.394 +00:00] [STDOUT] System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
[2025-07-27 17:44:24.394 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at PlayerStatsSystem.DamageHandlerReaderWriter.WriteDamageHandler (Mirror.NetworkWriter writer, PlayerStatsSystem.DamageHandlerBase info) [0x00000] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0
[2025-07-27 17:44:24.394 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at PlayerRoles.Ragdolls.RagdollDataReaderWriter.WriteRagdollData (Mirror.NetworkWriter writer, PlayerRoles.Ragdolls.RagdollData info) [0x00019] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0
[2025-07-27 17:44:24.394 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at PlayerRoles.Ragdolls.BasicRagdoll.SerializeSyncVars (Mirror.NetworkWriter writer, System.Boolean forceAll) [0x0000e] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0
[2025-07-27 17:44:24.394 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at Mirror.NetworkBehaviour.OnSerialize (Mirror.NetworkWriter writer, System.Boolean initialState) [0x00008] in <ae599454e38d4008a675271403de09db>:0
[2025-07-27 17:44:24.394 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at Mirror.NetworkBehaviour.Serialize (Mirror.NetworkWriter writer, System.Boolean initialState) [0x00015] in <ae599454e38d4008a675271403de09db>:0
[2025-07-27 17:44:24.396 +00:00] [STDOUT] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
[2025-07-27 17:44:24.396 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at PlayerRoles.Ragdolls.BasicRagdoll.Start () [0x00021] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0
[2025-07-27 17:44:24.396 +00:00] [STDOUT]   at PlayerRoles.Ragdolls.AutoHumanRagdoll.Start () [0x00000] in <d9731e675e55453197cf28cd60eed3f2>:0

[unique crane]

Thats easier in my opinion

[upper vapor]

you didn't give it a damage handler

[plain gazelle]

Hm, definitely a whole lot easier, but would they see it for like 1-2 frames?

[unique crane]

Messages are sent the same frame

no

And if you see it for 1-2

at 60 fps

Who cares

[plain gazelle]

Will try it :3

Like this?

[unique crane]

Try it and seee

I cant run code in my head

[upper vapor]

yeah that should work

though you still need a damage handler, no?

[plain gazelle]

im doing it in the PlayerEvents.SpawnedRagdoll

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-agreed-rock-sus-agreed-gif-23818297

smort

[plain gazelle]

didnt work

[upper vapor]

wdym

[plain gazelle]

Logger prints the correct players but the ragdoll stays for target

[upper vapor]

try with a frame delay

[unique crane]

^

[terse bone]

hasn't this event had wrong argument passed as Ragdoll?

yeah, insted of basicRagdoll there is ragdollRole.Ragdoll

[unique crane]

Yea fixed in the next update

[upper vapor]

push-ups

[plain gazelle]

15.0 or a sooner bugfix patch? .w.

also in the meantime ill try spawning in ragdolls again, for learning purposes i guess
How would i make a new "valid" DamageHandler?

Or maybe UniversalDamageHandler?

There are so many Handlers, idk what RagdollData expects x.x

[terse bone]

A fix for this

namespace Xname.API.Patches.Fixes;

using LabApi.Events.Arguments.PlayerEvents;
using PlayerRoles.Ragdolls;

[HarmonyPatch(typeof(RagdollManager), nameof(RagdollManager.ServerSpawnRagdoll))]
internal static class OnRagdollSpawnedPatch
{
    [HarmonyTranspiler]
    private static IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> Transpiler(IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> instructions)
    {
        var matcher = new CodeMatcher(instructions)
            .MatchStartForward(
                CodeMatch.LoadsArgument(),
                CodeMatch.LoadsLocal(),
                CodeMatch.Calls(AccessTools.PropertyGetter(typeof(IRagdollRole), nameof(IRagdollRole.Ragdoll))),
                CodeMatch.LoadsArgument(),
                new CodeMatch(OpCodes.Newobj, AccessTools.GetDeclaredConstructors(typeof(PlayerSpawnedRagdollEventArgs))[0])
            )
            .Advance(1)
            .RemoveInstructions(2)
            .Insert(new CodeInstruction(OpCodes.Ldloc_1));

        return matcher.InstructionEnumeration();
    }
}

[plain gazelle]

Works!!!!! A ragdoll only spawns for my list people!!!!!!

And instantly jumping onto another topic
Why does RA cuffing not call Cuffing, nor Cuffed?
I understand no Cuffing to always allow admins to cuff people i guess and not have any script interfere, but Cuffed shouldnt be of issue? :o

[unique crane]

Might want to report that as a bug

[abstract stone]

IS there some documentation about spawning objects? Like I want spawn Cube that IS that long and...?

[hearty shard]

Primitive.Spawn or smth

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/blob/master/LabApi/Features/Wrappers/AdminToys/PrimitiveObjectToy.cs#L106

PrimitiveObjectToy.Create

[abstract stone]

Thank you just got in to Labapi

[plain gazelle]

Is there a way to get the item type from an ItemPickupBase?

Or like, check if its ammo?

Would this work?

[hearty shard]

i believe thats fine, but checking category would probably be better than a cast

[plain gazelle]

Category? What is that :o

[hearty shard]

ItemCategory

[plain gazelle]

I dont find that anywhere

I found pickupBase.NetworkInfo.ItemId but now im interested in whatever "Category" is :o

[hearty shard]

just the games way of categorizing

Its used for item limits

[plain gazelle]

How do i send a RA message to someone again?
I couldve sworn it was via
player.ReferenceHub.queryProcessor.SendToClient("Message", true, true, ""); but it doesnt work (anymore?)

Yeah it did work a while ago, i learnt it from Eve

[upper vapor]

Append "command#" to the beginning of the message

The text before the hash will be wrapped with brackets on the client

[slender lynx]

@celest thorn @unique crane
https://maro.tiananmensquare.asia/📸/fufnz071.png

[unique crane]

Gg

[celest thorn]

fr too many people in this world

[restive turret]

The hope dies last, but I might be the first

[spark galleon]

Role granted

You have been granted Server Host role.

Polaris v. 3.0.2 | 20250728 083228.064Z

[teal junco]

thanks

[celest thorn]

WHY HERE?

#bot-commands

this exist

[teal junco]

i like it here

[celest thorn]

so triggering

[teal junco]

plugin dev chat is my home

[celest thorn]

if something exist why NOT USE IT

[icy knoll]

zero is angy

[celest thorn]

my home is my home

[teal junco]

the console told me to use any channel

[upper vapor]

all these server hosts, smh

[celest thorn]

it just gets me mad

[teal junco]

i decided to use my favorite channel :3

[celest thorn]

if something exist

USE IT FOR THAT REASON

[teal junco]

seeing my server on the list is something special

[restive turret]

Bc you are a something special too

[spare zodiac]

doesn't this look cleaner?

[restive turret]

Than?

[unique crane]

Empty room so nice yes yes (why)

[severe cave]

Is there a way to get a players ragdoll when it dies?

[upper vapor]

RagdollSpawned event

[restive turret]

It's client sided

So moving doesn't sync

[upper vapor]

SpawnMessage

[royal mica]

Keep in mind that all Ragdolls have Serial 0 (if it is not fixed already)

[celest thorn]

So sad

[celest thorn]

The guy who says there are so many people

[upper vapor]

When

[celest thorn]

https://ratcentral.is-a-good.site/🐀/7teu4930.png

[upper vapor]

you are literally twittering

i said "so many" and not "too many"

[celest thorn]

twittering??

wtf that even means

[upper vapor]

stating that i said something i never said

A: "i like waffles"
B: "oh so you hate pancakes? go after this guy!"

[hearty shard]

zero cant read

[celest thorn]

it wasn't my intention

[celest thorn]

fuck you eve

[upper vapor]

#plugins-dev-chat message

[celest thorn]

i changed it

[upper vapor]

bruh

[celest thorn]

as soon as you made me see the mistake

and im sorry

[upper vapor]

[restive turret]

Lmao

[severe cave]

Why is that when I try to destroy a ragdoll it wont disappear

[restive turret]

Send msg to client

[upper vapor]

ragdoll.Destroy?

[worn gull]

Take a look at how the command/RA do it

https://tenor.com/view/trollface-troll-face-terror-png-troll-face-troll-face-phonk-troll-face-png-gif-9455696315481948297

[slate flume]

Question: is it possible to spawn lockers?

[hearty shard]

err

yes

[upper vapor]

yes

[hearty shard]

get the prefab

create a new one

get the StructurePositionSync component and set the details

[upper vapor]

just call start

[hearty shard]

oh

[worthy rune]

ideally use the wrapper if you want to change pos/rot

[upper vapor]

the issue is that the transform position is only set in start, which is too late

so if you call Instantiate with the position, you still need to set it (grrr)

[worthy rune]

doesnt the wrapper handle that?

[upper vapor]

it does not work after spawning

[upper vapor]

it does

but there's no create locker or such method

or am i blind?

[worthy rune]

i think that remark was for stuff emeded into the map rooms itself not ones spawned by plugin devs

[worthy rune]

oh right

[upper vapor]

can you tell me what is the default font size of the text toy :3

[worthy rune]

i think its between 0 and 128

[upper vapor]

😭

the one on the left is the default unity value (36)

seems like it's one

[slate flume]

Okay I'll look into it

[worthy rune]

18 maybe?

[upper vapor]

uh

then the canvas must be scaled down compared to default unity

maybe it's cuz i'm on 2022?

[worthy rune]

yeah there could be other things going on

not sure if this helps, first is the Canvas object, Second is the Text (TMP) one

[upper vapor]

oh it's

oh

okay

0.05x

that explains the 36x size difference

i wonder why the canvas is 100x100 but the text is 200x50

[unique crane]

Yeah I had to scale it a loooooooot

World space text is big

[slate flume]

I won't lie, I hard code my primitives and objects

It's a pain in the ass

[upper vapor]

what

[slate flume]

I don't use unity editor or anything

[upper vapor]

[slate flume]

Literally

The upside is I spawn like 5 objects so it doesn't really matter

[upper vapor]

how to end yourself step numero 1

[upper vapor]

okay

[slate flume]

I have a method

[upper vapor]

PHEW

alright

[slate flume]

Though I manually find offsets for a lot of shit

Item spawns, spawn points, etc.

[upper vapor]

there we go

[slate flume]

Which is essentially the same thing

[upper vapor]

how about you export the SL assets

[slate flume]

That is so much work

[upper vapor]

and place a cube yourself in unity

[upper vapor]

no?

AssetRipper exists

waiting for unity to load is a lot of work

[slate flume]

It's so much work cause I don't use unity

I've never used unity

I have no idea how to use unity

I'd have to learn

And that's a lot of work

[upper vapor]

yeah, fair

how about you make a gun that you shoot and it outputs the room offset upon impact

[slate flume]

That's what I did :)

[upper vapor]

[slate flume]

It logs room, room rotation, and player position

After doing it enough I realized I can have it automatically output relative positions

So it does the calculation behind the scenes and spits out relative position

So it's as simple as
Find spot
Shoot
Put coords in plugin
Rotate at runtime

[upper vapor]

nodders

[slate flume]

So peak

[upper vapor]

TransformPoint and InverseTransformPoint 💞💞

[slate flume]

Literally

I won't lie just learned about transform point
I made my own function to rotate a point given the quaternion lmao

Time to update my codebase

[upper vapor]

hollow emoji

[fathom charm]

Hello. Is it possible to increase the visibility range of players when using FogControl.Intensity 1? For example, with a patch. Removing the OutOfRange flag does not help. Does it depend on FogController?

[upper vapor]

you can patch FpcVisibilityController.NormalMaxRangeSqr (or surface) if you want it to affect all players

[fathom charm]

Being possible? NormalMaxRangeSqr - protected virtual modifiier

Or in this ?

[upper vapor]

you should patch the property

[fathom charm]

how?

[upper vapor]

https://harmony.pardeike.net/articles/annotations.html
MethodType.Getter

[fathom charm]

ok

[slate flume]

So question
How did you learn this voodoo wizardry?

I want to learn when I should be using GetComponent vs GetComponentInParent vs whatever else

Like would I do the same thing for a ReferenceHub? I want to know how I can learn to find the answer

Teach a man to fish-type shit

[upper vapor]

kek

basically

if you have a component on the root, use getcomponent for another component on the same object

GetComponentInParent for objects higher in the hierarchy
GetComponent(s)InChildren for child objects

GetComponent(s)InChildren checks for the current object too, not sure if Parent does that, too

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.1/Documentation/ScriptReference/Component.GetComponentInParent.html

[slate flume]

Interesting